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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,422 --> 00:00:28,727 So you might wonder why I just clapped, 2 00:00:31,422 --> 00:00:35,335 because I'm sitting in my studio by myself 3 00:00:35,379 --> 00:00:38,248 and am I, 4 00:00:38,292 --> 00:00:39,988 am I applauding myself? 5 00:00:42,553 --> 00:00:45,944 I guess a good place to start is a simple question. 6 00:00:45,988 --> 00:00:47,335 Why in the world 7 00:00:47,379 --> 00:00:50,683 would I want to make a documentary about myself? 8 00:00:53,292 --> 00:00:56,857 And I think that's a pretty legitimate question. 9 00:00:59,248 --> 00:01:01,659 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 10 00:01:01,683 --> 00:01:05,031 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you! 11 00:01:13,292 --> 00:01:16,075 On one hand, I've had a strange life. 12 00:01:16,117 --> 00:01:19,901 I grew up very poor in a very wealthy environment. 13 00:01:21,639 --> 00:01:25,335 My strange life as a musician has taken me 14 00:01:25,379 --> 00:01:29,292 to a lot of very odd places, literally and figuratively. 15 00:01:32,247 --> 00:01:34,334 And I guess I could make a documentary about that. 16 00:01:34,379 --> 00:01:37,988 Just another biopic about a weird musician. 17 00:01:40,509 --> 00:01:45,901 What's more interesting is, at least to me, is... 18 00:01:47,379 --> 00:01:49,988 well, the why of it. 19 00:01:51,553 --> 00:01:53,031 The why of everything. 20 00:01:53,075 --> 00:01:54,901 The, why do we do what we do? 21 00:01:56,379 --> 00:01:58,335 Our very short lives 22 00:01:58,379 --> 00:02:02,335 quite possibly have very little significance. 23 00:02:02,378 --> 00:02:06,248 As far as we can tell, we're in a universe that is vast 24 00:02:06,292 --> 00:02:08,161 beyond our imagining, 25 00:02:08,205 --> 00:02:10,205 ancient beyond our imagining. 26 00:02:11,857 --> 00:02:15,770 But yet, all of us generally work from a place 27 00:02:15,814 --> 00:02:18,335 where we think that our actions have meaning, 28 00:02:18,379 --> 00:02:20,727 our lives have consequences. 29 00:02:23,075 --> 00:02:25,031 And that if we do things in a certain way, 30 00:02:25,075 --> 00:02:27,031 if we do things in a right way, 31 00:02:27,075 --> 00:02:30,988 that our lives might somehow be better. 32 00:02:31,031 --> 00:02:34,335 If I had legitimacy, if I had some money, 33 00:02:34,379 --> 00:02:36,335 if I was recognized for what I did 34 00:02:36,379 --> 00:02:38,988 and for who I was, and if I was esteemed... 35 00:02:39,031 --> 00:02:42,814 One of the most innovative figures in the world of electronic dance music, Moby. 36 00:02:42,857 --> 00:02:45,379 ...happiness, and meaning would ensue. 37 00:02:45,422 --> 00:02:48,770 And honestly, that's why I want to make this movie, 38 00:02:48,814 --> 00:02:51,595 because I think that a lot of us 39 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:54,335 still work under those assumptions, 40 00:02:54,379 --> 00:02:56,248 that if we do the right thing, 41 00:02:56,292 --> 00:03:00,248 if we have the right existential portfolio, 42 00:03:00,292 --> 00:03:03,770 if we have the right people, the right amount of money, 43 00:03:03,814 --> 00:03:05,857 the right home or homes, 44 00:03:05,901 --> 00:03:08,379 the right job, the right amount of recognition, 45 00:03:08,422 --> 00:03:12,161 then everything will suddenly make sense 46 00:03:12,205 --> 00:03:15,595 and we'll be happy and we'll live for a long time 47 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:16,988 and we will die contented. 48 00:03:21,901 --> 00:03:27,205 There's one huge problem with that, though. 49 00:03:27,248 --> 00:03:31,683 That's never actually been the case for anyone. 50 00:03:31,727 --> 00:03:36,639 It's almost like we assume that it's not true for everyone else, 51 00:03:36,683 --> 00:03:42,770 but that if we figure it out, like if I figure out my perfect existential portfolio, 52 00:03:42,814 --> 00:03:47,988 that I will find perfect human happiness, 53 00:03:48,031 --> 00:03:51,640 but I tried, and it didn't work. 54 00:04:22,683 --> 00:04:24,205 This is my dream. 55 00:05:52,422 --> 00:05:55,553 So we're revisiting. 56 00:05:55,596 --> 00:06:00,988 New York City in 1966. 57 00:06:01,031 --> 00:06:03,117 So yes, I was born in Harlem. 58 00:06:03,161 --> 00:06:06,553 Let's make it nighttime. 59 00:06:06,596 --> 00:06:09,422 Rrrrr... There's New York City. 60 00:06:09,466 --> 00:06:11,335 Rrrr, rrrr! 61 00:06:13,770 --> 00:06:17,205 My dad, we'll have him wearing glasses 62 00:06:17,248 --> 00:06:22,292 because the truth is, I don't remember my father at all, 63 00:06:22,335 --> 00:06:26,770 but in my mind he wore glasses, 64 00:06:26,814 --> 00:06:31,161 and unlike me, he had hair. 65 00:06:31,205 --> 00:06:35,422 My mom, because I'm not the best drawer in the world, 66 00:06:35,466 --> 00:06:38,596 I have a feeling she's going to look... 67 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,031 Oh, she actually looks almost feminine, maybe. 68 00:06:43,075 --> 00:06:45,770 Little baby me. 69 00:06:45,814 --> 00:06:48,248 We also need some animals. 70 00:06:48,292 --> 00:06:53,814 When I was growing up in Harlem we had a pet dog, 71 00:06:53,857 --> 00:06:56,901 one or two cats, and a bunch of rats, 72 00:06:56,944 --> 00:07:00,117 because my father was, 73 00:07:00,161 --> 00:07:02,248 he worked in the chemistry department at Columbia 74 00:07:02,292 --> 00:07:04,814 and he brought home some test rats. 75 00:07:04,857 --> 00:07:07,422 They were in their twenties. 76 00:07:07,466 --> 00:07:10,901 They were in New York, and they hung out in the Village 77 00:07:10,944 --> 00:07:14,117 and talked about poetry and politics. 78 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:24,727 And they had me, 79 00:07:24,770 --> 00:07:26,683 and then very quickly realized like, 80 00:07:26,727 --> 00:07:31,292 "Oh, having a newborn in a basement apartment in Harlem." 81 00:07:31,335 --> 00:07:34,466 And my dad had been a heavy drinker apparently, 82 00:07:34,509 --> 00:07:37,422 but then apparently he started drinking more and more and more, 83 00:07:37,466 --> 00:07:40,988 - and my mom yelling... - Get out of my house! 84 00:07:41,031 --> 00:07:42,640 - ...him yelling back... - Yaaaaaa! 85 00:07:42,683 --> 00:07:45,640 And then him disappearing on drunken binges. 86 00:07:45,683 --> 00:07:50,248 So because I lived with two very angry parents 87 00:07:50,292 --> 00:07:53,553 who were screaming at each other and smoking cigarettes and drinking, 88 00:07:53,596 --> 00:07:59,205 the only calm sort of stable presence in the apartment 89 00:07:59,248 --> 00:08:00,596 were the animals. 90 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,944 The cat, the dog, the rescued lab rats, 91 00:08:03,988 --> 00:08:06,248 represented here by chihuahuas. 92 00:08:06,292 --> 00:08:09,857 At an early age, when I was a tiny little baby, 93 00:08:09,901 --> 00:08:15,596 I learned a lesson, which is that animals are nice and people are terrifying. 94 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,640 And then after a couple of years of this, they had a huge fight, 95 00:08:20,683 --> 00:08:24,509 and my mother told my father, "I can't do this anymore. 96 00:08:24,553 --> 00:08:28,422 I want a divorce, and I'm taking your son away from you." 97 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:33,422 So, my father got drunk 98 00:08:33,466 --> 00:08:35,334 and got in his car... 99 00:08:46,248 --> 00:08:48,031 and drove into a wall... 100 00:08:49,553 --> 00:08:51,248 at a hundred miles an hour. 101 00:08:53,814 --> 00:08:57,509 So my mother was a widow at the age of 23 102 00:08:57,553 --> 00:08:59,422 with her crying newborn, 103 00:08:59,466 --> 00:09:04,422 a bunch of animals in a basement apartment in Harlem. 104 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,248 Hi. 105 00:10:21,292 --> 00:10:23,727 So I'm Moby and I'm the director of this scene 106 00:10:23,770 --> 00:10:27,205 and we will be reenacting some scenes from my childhood. 107 00:10:27,248 --> 00:10:28,988 I'd like to introduce our players. 108 00:10:29,031 --> 00:10:31,509 Laura, would you step in? 109 00:10:31,553 --> 00:10:33,770 This is Laura and she'll be playing my mom. 110 00:10:33,814 --> 00:10:37,161 Hi, I'm Laura Dawn and I'm playing Moby's mom. 111 00:10:37,205 --> 00:10:39,248 Daniel, would you like to step in? 112 00:10:39,292 --> 00:10:41,814 Who will be playing my mom's scumbag boyfriend. 113 00:10:41,857 --> 00:10:44,553 Hi, my name is Daniel Ahearn. 114 00:10:44,595 --> 00:10:47,075 I'll be playing the scumbag boyfriend. 115 00:10:48,596 --> 00:10:49,988 And this is Daron, 116 00:10:50,031 --> 00:10:54,161 and he'll be playing me at about age, say three. 117 00:10:54,205 --> 00:10:57,248 Hi, my name's Daron Murphy and I'll be playing young Moby. 118 00:10:57,292 --> 00:11:00,031 Yeah. Perfect. Life has already gone wrong. 119 00:11:00,075 --> 00:11:03,466 You're only three years old, and basically nothing good has ever happened. 120 00:11:05,292 --> 00:11:09,379 - You guys are getting ready to go out. - Let's go. 121 00:11:09,422 --> 00:11:12,292 So you're a local motorcycle gang member... 122 00:11:18,075 --> 00:11:20,509 but you're just, you're just scummy. 123 00:11:20,553 --> 00:11:24,770 - Bye, Moby. We'll be back in a couple of hours. - Don't touch my stuff. 124 00:11:24,814 --> 00:11:30,161 That was great. The only thing was you were a little too involved. 125 00:11:30,205 --> 00:11:32,683 OK. 126 00:11:32,727 --> 00:11:36,248 - And action. - All right, Moby, we're taking off. 127 00:11:36,292 --> 00:11:39,727 We're going to go out to this party and we'll be back later, okay? 128 00:11:39,770 --> 00:11:41,857 Bye, Molly. 129 00:11:44,031 --> 00:11:46,944 - Poor Moby. - Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm. 130 00:11:46,988 --> 00:11:49,944 I wish we could save him. We'd be your friends, Moby. 131 00:11:49,988 --> 00:11:51,988 - Oh yeah. - Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. 132 00:11:52,031 --> 00:11:54,335 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 133 00:11:54,379 --> 00:11:59,640 My mom is upset because she's unemployed, her boyfriend has left her, 134 00:11:59,683 --> 00:12:04,205 and young me is going to try to comfort her. 135 00:12:04,248 --> 00:12:06,292 Nothing ever works out. 136 00:12:06,335 --> 00:12:08,248 Dan left. 137 00:12:08,292 --> 00:12:10,031 Again. 138 00:12:10,075 --> 00:12:12,553 And I still haven't found a job. 139 00:12:12,596 --> 00:12:14,770 So I don't know what we're gonna do. 140 00:12:14,814 --> 00:12:17,205 - Mom... - Just leave me alone! 141 00:12:20,466 --> 00:12:21,553 Well done. 142 00:12:21,596 --> 00:12:24,248 A little more sadness. 143 00:12:24,292 --> 00:12:26,988 Well, okay, no, dial it down, just not quite so much sadness. 144 00:12:27,031 --> 00:12:31,683 A little, little more, just sort of like soft pathos. 145 00:12:33,901 --> 00:12:36,031 That's okay. No, come on in. 146 00:12:36,075 --> 00:12:38,596 We're doing really important stuff. 147 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,466 Oh, that's very sad. 148 00:12:40,509 --> 00:12:43,248 - That's a big apartment to me. - Call Child Services! 149 00:12:43,292 --> 00:12:47,814 His first experience, if you think about your mother being the center of your world, 150 00:12:47,857 --> 00:12:51,379 the idea that if you're the focal point of someone's world 151 00:12:51,422 --> 00:12:54,988 and all they know about love and trust and stability in the world, 152 00:12:55,031 --> 00:12:57,335 but you are not stable, 153 00:12:57,379 --> 00:13:01,770 then that produces a cascade of effects in a developing mind 154 00:13:01,814 --> 00:13:04,770 that can really mess up the rest of their lives. 155 00:13:04,814 --> 00:13:06,988 He was left in places and situations 156 00:13:07,031 --> 00:13:09,596 that a kid that's three, four or five, six years old, 157 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,901 should not be left in. 158 00:13:10,944 --> 00:13:12,770 And there was a lot of drug abuse. 159 00:13:12,814 --> 00:13:14,814 There was a lot of alcoholism. 160 00:13:14,857 --> 00:13:17,422 I think that he suffers from anxious attachment. 161 00:13:17,466 --> 00:13:20,596 When I hear so much of his music, 162 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,379 I hear the pain and emotion and longing that he feels towards his mother. 163 00:13:25,422 --> 00:13:28,988 That to me is a core dragon he's been chasing his entire life 164 00:13:29,031 --> 00:13:32,509 as some kind of understanding and resolution to that pain. 165 00:13:42,857 --> 00:13:46,553 When I was very, very young, I grew up playing in New York and Connecticut. 166 00:13:48,422 --> 00:13:53,161 And at that time, like my only goal was to at some point 167 00:13:53,205 --> 00:13:57,553 put out a seven-inch that maybe sold a hundred copies. 168 00:13:57,596 --> 00:14:01,857 I never ever, ever in a billion years 169 00:14:01,901 --> 00:14:06,248 thought I would be playing with one of the most remarkable orchestras. 170 00:14:06,292 --> 00:14:09,988 So I just wanted to say thank you all so much. 171 00:14:13,553 --> 00:14:16,596 Such a beautiful orchestra. Such a friendly orchestra. 172 00:16:56,161 --> 00:16:59,856 When a human being truly dives within all the way, 173 00:16:59,901 --> 00:17:02,205 negativity begins to lift away. 174 00:17:02,247 --> 00:17:06,596 Hate, anger, fear, all these things start to lift. 175 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,814 The suffocating rubber clown suit of negativity dissolving, 176 00:17:10,857 --> 00:17:13,379 and pure gold coming in from within. 177 00:17:19,422 --> 00:17:22,379 So for a while, we lived in Darien, Connecticut, 178 00:17:22,422 --> 00:17:25,466 which is one of the wealthiest towns in the United States. 179 00:17:25,509 --> 00:17:28,553 And I was certainly the poorest person that I knew there. 180 00:17:28,596 --> 00:17:30,422 I hated it. 181 00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:32,596 Not being able to bring people back to my house. 182 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,683 When I say "bring people," I mean like friends in elementary school, 183 00:17:35,727 --> 00:17:41,292 but as I had learned early on, animals were safe, 184 00:17:41,335 --> 00:17:44,770 and animals didn't judge me, 185 00:17:44,814 --> 00:17:48,248 and I never had to feel shame around animals. 186 00:17:50,335 --> 00:17:53,857 So I'd found animals, and then I found music. 187 00:17:58,117 --> 00:18:02,248 And then I picked up a guitar one of my Mom's boyfriends had left at the house, 188 00:18:02,292 --> 00:18:06,466 and I started playing around and very quickly I discovered punk rock. 189 00:18:17,944 --> 00:18:23,553 And I fell in love with The Clash, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Black Flag. 190 00:18:23,596 --> 00:18:25,683 And I also found a home. 191 00:18:25,727 --> 00:18:30,248 I found this amazing community of misfits and confused teenagers like me, 192 00:18:30,292 --> 00:18:33,379 and I felt comfortable and at home for the first time, 193 00:18:33,422 --> 00:18:36,553 and I just wanted to play in a punk rock band. 194 00:18:36,596 --> 00:18:38,857 And I guess that's when I dedicated my life 195 00:18:38,901 --> 00:18:41,509 to these two things, animals and music. 196 00:19:11,901 --> 00:19:13,268 I've been looking forward to our session. 197 00:19:13,292 --> 00:19:15,031 - It's good to see you again. - Oh yeah. 198 00:19:15,075 --> 00:19:17,727 Can I get you water or a cup of tea? 199 00:19:32,292 --> 00:19:34,553 I want to know more about your feelings. 200 00:19:34,596 --> 00:19:37,379 How have you been able to process your feelings 201 00:19:37,422 --> 00:19:41,075 and what you experienced as a child through your music? 202 00:19:41,117 --> 00:19:44,944 We've talked about this before that sometimes you refer to yourself 203 00:19:44,988 --> 00:19:46,335 in the third person, 204 00:19:46,379 --> 00:19:48,596 which is intellectualizing, 205 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,770 and I'm wondering if you can connect to your feelings 206 00:19:51,814 --> 00:19:54,379 and tell me about it from that perspective. 207 00:19:54,422 --> 00:19:59,248 Well, growing up, I always felt uncomfortable if I'm being honest 208 00:19:59,292 --> 00:20:03,640 and I felt really disconnected and unsafe. 209 00:20:03,683 --> 00:20:07,422 I know this sounds like hyperbole, 210 00:20:07,466 --> 00:20:09,398 this sounds like I'm overstating, but music saved me. 211 00:20:09,422 --> 00:20:13,422 I felt connected to this bigger world that was so much better 212 00:20:13,466 --> 00:20:18,205 and more interesting than the sad suburban world I was inhabiting. 213 00:20:18,248 --> 00:20:22,248 Can you just tell me a little bit more about how you felt about that? 214 00:20:22,292 --> 00:20:27,031 I was able to like take all of the things that I was feeling... 215 00:20:28,727 --> 00:20:32,161 and make sense of them, and sort of make them 216 00:20:32,205 --> 00:20:34,553 you know, take the fear and make it interesting, 217 00:20:34,596 --> 00:20:39,814 and take my confusion and try to make it beautiful. 218 00:20:39,857 --> 00:20:46,248 And so the act of making music was almost like a form of like self-healing, 219 00:20:46,292 --> 00:20:50,031 but also in a way that maybe other people 220 00:20:50,075 --> 00:20:53,509 could relate to or understand. 221 00:21:22,944 --> 00:21:24,553 Everyone chant! 222 00:22:07,248 --> 00:22:09,553 Someone asked me this question recently, 223 00:22:09,596 --> 00:22:14,205 if I were an animal, what would, 224 00:22:14,248 --> 00:22:16,683 or how would my consciousness be different? 225 00:22:16,727 --> 00:22:18,422 And it's a fascinating question. 226 00:22:18,466 --> 00:22:23,814 So when I look at an animal like, like, look at buffalo. 227 00:22:28,292 --> 00:22:32,379 I wonder if sometimes one of the reasons 228 00:22:32,422 --> 00:22:35,205 that people kill animals, 229 00:22:35,248 --> 00:22:38,770 one of the reasons that people treat animals so badly 230 00:22:38,814 --> 00:22:40,988 is because of loneliness, 231 00:22:41,031 --> 00:22:45,117 is because they look at animals and they feel rejected by them. 232 00:22:45,161 --> 00:22:48,814 You know, they look at a buffalo and buffalo are stoic 233 00:22:48,857 --> 00:22:53,205 and apparently quite happy to just hang out with other buffalo, 234 00:22:53,248 --> 00:22:55,814 and they have their own concerns and their own priorities. 235 00:22:55,857 --> 00:22:58,727 Like the desire to not get eaten, 236 00:22:58,770 --> 00:23:01,596 the desire to not be hungry, 237 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,466 the desire to spend time with your family, with your community. 238 00:23:06,509 --> 00:23:12,379 But sometimes nature has an indifference towards humans. 239 00:23:12,422 --> 00:23:16,988 And the animals, like let's say like a buffalo, they don't care. 240 00:23:17,031 --> 00:23:21,248 And I think sometimes that almost justifies 241 00:23:21,292 --> 00:23:23,770 people's cruelty to animals, 242 00:23:23,814 --> 00:23:25,727 is they're punishing the animals 243 00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:30,292 for having their own lives independent of us. 244 00:23:30,335 --> 00:23:32,857 The animal is almost like 245 00:23:32,901 --> 00:23:37,553 an emissary of the vast existential void 246 00:23:37,596 --> 00:23:39,683 that we're all so afraid of. 247 00:26:03,466 --> 00:26:06,075 My friend gave me some acid. 248 00:26:06,117 --> 00:26:08,988 And I thought this was really interesting, 249 00:26:09,031 --> 00:26:10,814 'cause I'd never done acid before 250 00:26:12,379 --> 00:26:15,379 and it lasted for about 15 hours. 251 00:26:15,422 --> 00:26:19,770 And then a day later I had a panic attack, 252 00:26:19,814 --> 00:26:22,944 and the panic attack lasted for about six months. 253 00:26:28,292 --> 00:26:33,335 It was so bad that I had to drop out of school and moved home 254 00:26:33,379 --> 00:26:37,596 back to my mom's house, and it was really grim. 255 00:26:50,596 --> 00:26:57,031 19 years old, unemployed, broke, battling constant panic attacks, 256 00:26:57,075 --> 00:27:00,683 going to my local bar, getting drunk with alcoholics 257 00:27:00,727 --> 00:27:04,031 just 'cause that was the only thing that would make the panic abate. 258 00:27:10,814 --> 00:27:14,944 When friends from college would drop me off... 259 00:27:16,379 --> 00:27:19,335 ...I would have them drop me off here, 260 00:27:19,379 --> 00:27:22,596 and for a brief minute, I would pretend that I lived here. 261 00:27:27,727 --> 00:27:33,640 Everybody I knew who grew up like the rich people here 262 00:27:33,683 --> 00:27:39,161 just felt entitled and were kind of arrogant and obnoxious, 263 00:27:39,205 --> 00:27:42,770 but anyone who grew up even slightly poor here, 264 00:27:42,814 --> 00:27:45,205 you just felt this like stain of inadequacy 265 00:27:45,248 --> 00:27:48,379 because everybody knew exactly how much money everyone else had. 266 00:27:48,422 --> 00:27:50,857 No matter where you went, you just always felt, 267 00:27:50,901 --> 00:27:54,727 if you're poor growing up here, you just always felt like a second-class citizen. 268 00:27:54,770 --> 00:27:56,901 In my case, like an 11th-class citizen. 269 00:28:03,683 --> 00:28:06,205 That was my fantasy when I was growing up, 270 00:28:06,248 --> 00:28:11,944 to live in a house like this and drink tea and sit by a roaring fire, 271 00:28:11,988 --> 00:28:16,292 and read Blake 272 00:28:16,335 --> 00:28:18,901 while the golden retriever was asleep at my feet 273 00:28:18,944 --> 00:28:22,161 and my beautiful wife was, I don't know, 274 00:28:22,205 --> 00:28:27,553 writing poetry at her desk by the leaded window panes. 275 00:28:27,596 --> 00:28:30,422 And then I moved to an abandoned factory. 276 00:28:54,553 --> 00:28:58,248 This huge, weird factory complex, 277 00:28:58,292 --> 00:29:00,988 I mean millions and millions of square feet. 278 00:29:01,031 --> 00:29:03,683 It had been a lock factory in Stamford, Connecticut. 279 00:29:03,727 --> 00:29:08,857 But when I moved in, it was completely empty and I paid $50 a month. 280 00:29:08,901 --> 00:29:11,553 What I thought of as squatter's rent. 281 00:29:11,596 --> 00:29:14,901 There was a security guard, and I'd give them $50 a month, 282 00:29:14,944 --> 00:29:19,553 and I didn't have running water, I didn't have heat, 283 00:29:19,596 --> 00:29:21,335 but I had electricity. 284 00:29:21,379 --> 00:29:24,814 And so I had my studio and it, my space was tiny. 285 00:29:24,857 --> 00:29:29,205 I mean, so tiny, it was basically like a big glorified closet. 286 00:29:29,248 --> 00:29:32,205 And I worked on music. 287 00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:40,422 I was DJing just a couple days a week. 288 00:29:40,466 --> 00:29:44,031 $25 to DJ for six hours. 289 00:29:44,075 --> 00:29:49,117 And this whole huge factory building was empty, 290 00:29:49,161 --> 00:29:51,802 except for me and like a few other artists who are squatting in it. 291 00:29:57,031 --> 00:30:00,553 The two years I lived here, I think three people got murdered. 292 00:30:00,596 --> 00:30:03,248 My friend Jamie got stabbed to death here. 293 00:30:03,292 --> 00:30:06,814 I loved it, because I had free electricity and my space, 294 00:30:06,857 --> 00:30:09,268 even though it was very small, was sunny and I didn't have heat, 295 00:30:09,292 --> 00:30:12,596 but I had space heaters that I borrowed from my girlfriend's mom. 296 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,205 Now, Moby, did you grow up in your punk rock days, 297 00:30:19,248 --> 00:30:22,596 did you live in factories? 298 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,857 As a matter of fact, I did. 299 00:30:24,901 --> 00:30:28,422 Um, but old factories, the desolation 300 00:30:28,466 --> 00:30:30,944 and like the entropy of them, 301 00:30:30,988 --> 00:30:33,901 'cause they're such sturdy structures. 302 00:30:33,944 --> 00:30:37,683 Normally things when they're abandoned collapse, 303 00:30:37,727 --> 00:30:40,988 but what's great about factories is they're abandoned and they stick around, 304 00:30:41,031 --> 00:30:45,335 you know, and the bricks become interesting and the floors get dusty and interesting. 305 00:30:45,379 --> 00:30:50,379 And especially when the old machinery is too heavy to move, you know? 306 00:30:50,422 --> 00:30:52,466 So they're just like, we're just going to leave it. 307 00:30:52,509 --> 00:30:54,553 You're talking my type. 308 00:30:57,031 --> 00:31:00,857 And that's when I started making 309 00:31:00,901 --> 00:31:05,553 my own almost exclusively electronic music. 310 00:31:05,596 --> 00:31:08,292 And then I started working at a record store, 311 00:31:08,335 --> 00:31:11,075 so I was able to buy more records and DJ more. 312 00:31:11,117 --> 00:31:13,683 And then I started DJing Friday nights and Saturday nights. 313 00:31:13,727 --> 00:31:18,509 And then there was this magic day when I learned how to mix two records together. 314 00:31:18,553 --> 00:31:22,161 And all of a sudden I realized like, "Oh, that sounded okay." 315 00:31:22,205 --> 00:31:23,901 Like, "I guess I'm a DJ now." 316 00:31:27,379 --> 00:31:31,379 I had the worst sampler in the world and a little four-track, 317 00:31:31,422 --> 00:31:35,205 and so I made my idea of what hip-hop should sound like 318 00:31:35,248 --> 00:31:38,988 and my idea of what house music and techno should be. 319 00:31:39,031 --> 00:31:42,161 I mean, keep in mind, house music had just been invented 320 00:31:42,205 --> 00:31:44,988 and techno had just been invented, 321 00:31:45,031 --> 00:31:47,205 but with my little Casio keyboard 322 00:31:47,248 --> 00:31:51,640 and my cheap Roland drum machine and my little sequencer, 323 00:31:51,683 --> 00:31:55,205 I tried to make electronic music 324 00:31:55,248 --> 00:31:59,075 and I had no idea what was going on with me 325 00:31:59,117 --> 00:32:02,379 or my life or my future, but I had some really good friends, 326 00:32:02,422 --> 00:32:05,075 and I was surprisingly happy. 327 00:32:05,117 --> 00:32:08,596 And I remember trying to explain that to my family, 328 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,161 how in hindsight it was one of the happiest times of my life. 329 00:33:56,727 --> 00:33:58,335 Run for your lives! 330 00:33:58,379 --> 00:33:59,857 Let's go to space! 331 00:34:38,291 --> 00:34:41,205 There, 205 East 14th Street, 332 00:34:41,248 --> 00:34:44,247 that was my first apartment in New York City. 333 00:34:46,596 --> 00:34:50,248 And I'm pretty sure, I had a bunch of roommates, 334 00:34:50,292 --> 00:34:55,814 but my rent was around $150 a month, $160 a month. 335 00:34:58,988 --> 00:35:02,988 Growing up in Connecticut, I fetishized New York City. 336 00:35:03,031 --> 00:35:06,335 New York was 30, 40 miles away, 337 00:35:06,379 --> 00:35:08,596 and it was easy to get to on the train. 338 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,031 And so my friends and I growing up went to New York every chance we could. 339 00:35:13,075 --> 00:35:17,248 It's where the best record stores were, it's where we saw all our first punk rock shows. 340 00:35:17,292 --> 00:35:20,205 And we were amazed that we could just get on the train 341 00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:23,857 and hide in the bathroom and 40 minutes later be in Grand Central. 342 00:35:23,901 --> 00:35:28,640 Not to overstate it, but this train saved my life and made me who I am. 343 00:35:28,683 --> 00:35:33,075 I would make the tapes in my abandoned factory, 344 00:35:33,117 --> 00:35:38,248 get off in Grand Central, jump the turnstile, and then just go around giving out tapes. 345 00:35:38,292 --> 00:35:40,248 Years of doing this. 346 00:35:40,292 --> 00:35:42,944 My first record label came from that, 347 00:35:42,988 --> 00:35:47,379 other DJing jobs came from that, being introduced to all the producers of the day. 348 00:35:47,422 --> 00:35:51,422 I heard about this club called Mars that was opening. 349 00:35:51,466 --> 00:35:55,031 It was going to be the coolest nightclub in the world. 350 00:35:55,075 --> 00:35:58,335 Somehow the man who was booking Mars 351 00:35:58,379 --> 00:36:01,205 listened to it and gave me a job. 352 00:36:01,248 --> 00:36:03,770 My first record label came from that, 353 00:36:03,814 --> 00:36:06,770 so it all started with that one job at Mars. 354 00:36:49,596 --> 00:36:54,466 In 1990, I put out a song called "Go." 355 00:36:54,509 --> 00:36:58,335 And this came out and did nothing. 356 00:36:58,379 --> 00:37:01,335 It sold maybe 1500 copies. 357 00:37:01,379 --> 00:37:05,422 And then after it was released, 358 00:37:05,466 --> 00:37:08,335 a record label guy in the UK heard it 359 00:37:08,379 --> 00:37:10,988 and wanted to release it, but needed a remix. 360 00:37:11,031 --> 00:37:14,553 And at this time I was obsessed with Twin Peaks, 361 00:37:14,596 --> 00:37:17,379 and somehow I had this weird idea 362 00:37:17,422 --> 00:37:23,292 of adding the strings from Laura Palmer's theme from Twin Peaks 363 00:37:23,335 --> 00:37:26,205 to this remix I was working on for "Go." 364 00:37:28,727 --> 00:37:30,379 So I came up with this remix, 365 00:37:30,422 --> 00:37:33,814 and then I played the chords to Laura Palmer's theme 366 00:37:33,857 --> 00:37:35,466 on top of the remix. 367 00:37:35,509 --> 00:37:39,553 Yes. Well, Moby did that song "Go," 368 00:37:39,596 --> 00:37:44,640 and that was based on pieces of Angelo's music in Twin Peaks. 369 00:37:44,683 --> 00:37:49,466 I thought it was fantastic, and a lot of other people thought that too. 370 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,988 And it became a top-ten record throughout Europe and it sold a million copies. 371 00:38:17,901 --> 00:38:21,117 So my first single sold 1500 copies, 372 00:38:21,161 --> 00:38:23,379 and my next single sold a million copies. 373 00:38:23,422 --> 00:38:26,335 That's a big turning point, 374 00:38:26,379 --> 00:38:30,292 and it was so profoundly unexpected. 375 00:38:32,292 --> 00:38:36,335 So the fact that it became this weird, weird hit single, 376 00:38:36,379 --> 00:38:40,379 where I was going back and forth to the UK every two weeks and DJing in raves 377 00:38:40,422 --> 00:38:43,901 and playing at raves and being on all sorts of different TV shows 378 00:38:43,944 --> 00:38:48,988 and being on Top of the Pops, like none of this was expected. 379 00:38:49,031 --> 00:38:51,770 I had never thought that I would live in New York. 380 00:38:51,814 --> 00:38:54,205 I had never thought that I would have a record deal. 381 00:38:54,248 --> 00:38:57,031 I never thought that I would leave the United States. 382 00:38:57,075 --> 00:38:59,814 I never thought that anyone would make an effort 383 00:38:59,857 --> 00:39:02,031 to listen to the music that I was making. 384 00:39:02,075 --> 00:39:04,683 And then all of a sudden I was doing interviews for magazines. 385 00:39:04,727 --> 00:39:07,901 And then I was on the cover of dance magazines, and I was on TV shows, 386 00:39:07,944 --> 00:39:11,248 Spin'salbum of the year, the Village Voice's album of the year. 387 00:39:11,292 --> 00:39:15,248 And I had a big hit single in Europe, I had music in a Michael Mann movie, 388 00:39:15,292 --> 00:39:18,248 and I went on tour with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and the Flaming Lips. 389 00:39:18,292 --> 00:39:22,814 Like by the end of 1995, things were kind of magical. 390 00:39:22,857 --> 00:39:25,770 All that had happened, and I had expected none of it. 391 00:39:25,814 --> 00:39:28,248 And I was financially stable for the first time in my life. 392 00:39:28,292 --> 00:39:30,379 And I bought an apartment, my very own apartment, 393 00:39:30,422 --> 00:39:34,683 with a real studio with soundproof walls and a skylight. 394 00:39:58,075 --> 00:40:01,075 I still remember, I was on British Airways 395 00:40:01,117 --> 00:40:04,466 flying to the UK to do Top of the Pops, 396 00:40:04,509 --> 00:40:09,727 and I saw in the newspaper my song "Go" in the charts 397 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:13,161 in between Michael Jackson and Phil Collins. 398 00:40:20,205 --> 00:40:22,988 Can you talk to me about how that felt? 399 00:40:23,031 --> 00:40:25,422 Not just intellectualizing that time, 400 00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:28,596 but really unpack your feelings around that for me? 401 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,248 It felt baffling, confusing, 402 00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:36,161 dislocating, but it felt wonderful. 403 00:40:36,205 --> 00:40:40,031 I'd been playing music for 15 years 404 00:40:40,075 --> 00:40:43,292 and every day of those 15 years thinking like, 405 00:40:43,335 --> 00:40:44,770 how can I have an audience? 406 00:40:44,814 --> 00:40:47,031 How can I finally, like at some point, 407 00:40:47,075 --> 00:40:49,553 even like get a record deal and make records? 408 00:40:49,596 --> 00:40:53,944 But I never really expected that that would happen. 409 00:42:01,944 --> 00:42:04,640 How many people right now are beating themselves up 410 00:42:04,683 --> 00:42:07,814 because they think they're not successful enough, they're not famous enough, 411 00:42:07,857 --> 00:42:10,509 they're not young enough, they're not beautiful enough, and like... 412 00:42:10,553 --> 00:42:14,727 But then the people who are super young, super attractive, 413 00:42:14,770 --> 00:42:18,727 super famous, they're miserable, you know? 414 00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:24,205 So it's this, it's this horrifying, I don't know... 415 00:42:24,248 --> 00:42:27,248 Like I don't have to pretend to be younger than I am. 416 00:42:27,292 --> 00:42:29,640 I don't have to pretend to be more attractive than I am. 417 00:42:29,683 --> 00:42:31,292 - I don't have to wear a toupee. - Yeah. 418 00:42:31,335 --> 00:42:35,292 I don't have to pretend that I'm still young 419 00:42:35,335 --> 00:42:39,640 and relevant in the same way that I was 20 years ago or 15 years ago. 420 00:42:39,683 --> 00:42:42,292 One of the hardest things, at least for me, and I assume for you, 421 00:42:42,335 --> 00:42:47,075 for lots of people, is the reason we overcompensate, 422 00:42:47,117 --> 00:42:52,596 the reason we try to get people to see us in like exalted lights 423 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,509 is because deep down we don't like ourselves. 424 00:42:55,553 --> 00:42:57,596 - Like we're ashamed of ourselves. - Yeah. 425 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,248 Um, we assume that if anyone looks too closely, they'll be repelled. 426 00:43:03,292 --> 00:43:05,944 Especially if they look at me at this angle. Something like that. 427 00:43:05,988 --> 00:43:08,205 And like looking at it yourself, 428 00:43:08,248 --> 00:43:10,770 but then like being that in the presence of other people 429 00:43:10,814 --> 00:43:15,814 for as potentially unattractive and uncomfortable as that might be. 430 00:44:17,292 --> 00:44:19,335 So in the mid-'90s, I shaved my head, 431 00:44:19,379 --> 00:44:22,031 and after a long period of sobriety, I started drinking again. 432 00:44:26,683 --> 00:44:29,596 And I became a complete rock-and-roll clichรฉ. 433 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,727 I was living on tour buses, hanging out in the strip clubs, 434 00:44:32,770 --> 00:44:34,422 dating strippers. 435 00:44:36,292 --> 00:44:38,901 And I fully foolishly stupidly embraced 436 00:44:38,944 --> 00:44:40,857 the complete rock-and-roll degenerate lifestyle. 437 00:44:40,901 --> 00:44:44,075 Ah, yay, yah... drinking! 438 00:44:44,117 --> 00:44:47,553 Ah, yay. Raaaah! 439 00:44:47,596 --> 00:44:51,901 ...glug glug glug. 440 00:44:55,857 --> 00:44:57,683 I don't know, it made sense to me at the time. 441 00:45:00,031 --> 00:45:02,988 Oh, Hi. My name is Dr. Richard, 442 00:45:03,031 --> 00:45:06,379 and I'd like to talk to you today about alcoholism. 443 00:45:06,422 --> 00:45:08,553 A lot of people, many of you who are watching, 444 00:45:08,596 --> 00:45:11,379 might've had a few bad experiences with drinking, 445 00:45:11,422 --> 00:45:14,814 you know, a few too many drinks at the office Christmas party. 446 00:45:14,857 --> 00:45:18,205 Well, one of my worst experiences, I was on a tour bus 447 00:45:18,248 --> 00:45:21,248 and we were driving from London to Manchester, 448 00:45:21,292 --> 00:45:24,857 and I had 15 or 20 drinks and took a whole bunch of drugs 449 00:45:24,901 --> 00:45:29,509 and ended up having, I guess, a sexual encounter with a few different people. 450 00:45:29,553 --> 00:45:31,205 And when I woke up in the morning, 451 00:45:31,248 --> 00:45:35,683 I was sick and hung over and alone and cold. 452 00:45:35,727 --> 00:45:38,553 And I had poop all over my body. 453 00:45:38,596 --> 00:45:41,075 I was covered with poop, 454 00:45:41,117 --> 00:45:43,205 but I didn't know whose poop it was. 455 00:45:43,248 --> 00:45:46,031 And to this day, I don't know whose poop it was. 456 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,640 Things started to go wrong. 457 00:45:58,683 --> 00:46:00,857 I broke up with my girlfriend. 458 00:46:00,901 --> 00:46:02,640 I started hanging out in strip clubs, 459 00:46:02,683 --> 00:46:05,640 and also I decided to make a punk rock record. 460 00:46:23,814 --> 00:46:27,422 I'd put out the album Animal Rights and it had failed. 461 00:46:27,466 --> 00:46:29,248 No one wanted to listen to it. 462 00:46:29,292 --> 00:46:32,988 He was considered to be past it, a bit of a loser. 463 00:46:33,031 --> 00:46:36,161 They were just making fun of him and he took it badly. 464 00:46:36,205 --> 00:46:37,596 He wanted to be liked. 465 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,292 He wanted to be respected. 466 00:46:40,335 --> 00:46:43,596 I was convinced it was going to be my last record. 467 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,596 That I'd move back to Connecticut, 468 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,814 and I thought I'd go be a community school teacher. 469 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,422 Then I learned my Mom had cancer. 470 00:47:29,205 --> 00:47:30,988 And then she died. 471 00:47:39,031 --> 00:47:43,117 And I missed her funeral because I was in bed drunk, passed out. 472 00:49:11,770 --> 00:49:14,205 I'm really, really sorry. 473 00:49:26,596 --> 00:49:28,814 Oh, I think that's Moby. 474 00:49:30,988 --> 00:49:32,422 That's Moby. 475 00:49:40,031 --> 00:49:42,466 Well, I always talk about ideas. 476 00:49:42,509 --> 00:49:47,988 And I always say we don't do anything without first an idea. 477 00:49:48,031 --> 00:49:54,248 So ideas are precious things and we all want ideas. 478 00:49:54,292 --> 00:49:56,596 There's trillions of ideas, you know. 479 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,205 They're thoughts in a way, thoughts go through our heads. 480 00:50:00,248 --> 00:50:04,248 And... but I picture it out in the ether. 481 00:50:04,292 --> 00:50:08,814 There's trillions and trillions of fantastic ideas. 482 00:50:08,857 --> 00:50:12,727 And the deeper you can think, 483 00:50:12,770 --> 00:50:16,553 the bigger the ideas are that you can catch. 484 00:50:16,596 --> 00:50:20,901 So, it's very important 485 00:50:20,944 --> 00:50:25,727 for any line of work to catch ideas. 486 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:29,205 And once in a while, you catch an idea that you fall in love with, 487 00:50:29,248 --> 00:50:33,857 and then the idea tells you everything, pretty much everything. 488 00:50:33,901 --> 00:50:36,857 So if it's like a musical idea, 489 00:50:36,901 --> 00:50:41,988 you catch something that gets you going to the guitar or the piano or whatever. 490 00:50:42,031 --> 00:50:44,944 And it fires you up. 491 00:50:44,988 --> 00:50:47,248 Ideas come with inspiration, 492 00:50:47,292 --> 00:50:53,075 a certain amount of information, and off you go. 493 00:50:57,596 --> 00:50:59,901 I had lost my American record deal. 494 00:50:59,944 --> 00:51:03,205 My last album, Animal Rights, had been a complete failure. 495 00:51:03,248 --> 00:51:06,335 My last tour had been a failure that no one came to, 496 00:51:06,379 --> 00:51:08,988 and I was working on this album Play, 497 00:51:09,031 --> 00:51:12,205 and I took the music I was working on, which was like "Porcelain" 498 00:51:12,248 --> 00:51:14,268 and "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad" and "Natural Blues," 499 00:51:14,292 --> 00:51:18,770 and I walked around this neighborhood and it just sounded terrible to me. 500 00:51:26,031 --> 00:51:30,553 And I stopped on this bench, 501 00:51:30,596 --> 00:51:32,814 convinced that my career was over... 502 00:51:35,117 --> 00:51:38,118 ...convinced I was working on a record that no one was ever going to hear... 503 00:51:40,422 --> 00:51:44,944 ...and pretty sure that I was going to sell my apartment 504 00:51:44,988 --> 00:51:48,292 and move back to Connecticut and have to get a real job. 505 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,248 Five... vehicle's armed... 506 00:51:53,292 --> 00:51:56,466 Three, two, one, fire! 507 00:52:01,075 --> 00:52:02,075 Thrust fired. 508 00:52:26,335 --> 00:52:30,553 And I thought Play was going to be a complete, complete failure, 509 00:52:30,596 --> 00:52:32,770 you know because it was a weird, badly mixed, 510 00:52:32,814 --> 00:52:35,248 badly produced record that I made in my bedroom. 511 00:52:35,292 --> 00:52:38,161 Mainly involving vocals from people who've been dead 512 00:52:38,205 --> 00:52:41,596 for 40 or 50 years, but then things changed a lot. 513 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,466 Our next guest is a Grammy-nominated musician 514 00:52:44,509 --> 00:52:47,335 whose CD right here was named one of the top albums of the year 515 00:52:47,379 --> 00:52:48,988 by nearly every major publication. 516 00:52:49,031 --> 00:52:51,379 If you don't have one of these boys now, you ought to, 517 00:52:51,422 --> 00:52:55,335 seriously, tomorrow you ought to call in sick and go get one. It's called Play. 518 00:52:55,379 --> 00:52:57,466 Here's Moby. 519 00:52:59,205 --> 00:53:02,814 It started off so small. 520 00:53:02,857 --> 00:53:07,205 I mean, when it started, it was selling 521 00:53:07,248 --> 00:53:10,117 like 2,000 or 3,000 copies a week, you know, 522 00:53:10,161 --> 00:53:13,117 barely doing anything... oops. 523 00:53:13,161 --> 00:53:15,770 And, uh... 524 00:53:15,814 --> 00:53:19,248 and then it just kept selling more. 525 00:53:19,292 --> 00:53:22,137 My next guest tonight is acknowledged as one of the most innovative figures 526 00:53:22,161 --> 00:53:24,205 in the world of electronic dance music, 527 00:53:24,248 --> 00:53:28,248 and he's here to perform a song from his most recent album, Play. 528 00:53:28,292 --> 00:53:32,422 Slowly but surely, everybody who discovered the music 529 00:53:32,466 --> 00:53:34,187 felt like there was something special there. 530 00:54:21,117 --> 00:54:24,988 And it was so surprising and every time it sold more, 531 00:54:25,031 --> 00:54:27,205 I thought, "Great, now it's done." 532 00:54:29,466 --> 00:54:32,422 And then it started selling 10,000 copies a week, 533 00:54:32,466 --> 00:54:36,901 and then it started selling 100,000 copies a week. 534 00:54:36,944 --> 00:54:41,379 And then at one point it was selling almost 200,000 copies worldwide a week. 535 00:54:41,422 --> 00:54:44,248 And it went number one in the UK and it went number one in France 536 00:54:44,292 --> 00:54:46,031 and Australia and Germany. 537 00:54:46,075 --> 00:54:49,205 And suddenly, you know, 538 00:54:49,248 --> 00:54:52,988 I went from playing to a couple hundred people a night 539 00:54:53,031 --> 00:54:55,640 to a couple thousand people a night to... 540 00:54:55,683 --> 00:54:58,161 Oh wow, cricket bats. 541 00:54:58,205 --> 00:55:00,335 Do you need a cricket bat? 542 00:55:01,988 --> 00:55:03,205 Do I need a cricket bat? 543 00:55:05,335 --> 00:55:08,335 So different tracks in different countries 544 00:55:08,379 --> 00:55:10,944 sort of brought this album forward. 545 00:55:10,988 --> 00:55:14,422 And at that point I just looked at Moby and said, 546 00:55:14,466 --> 00:55:18,161 "Who the fuck are these people? How does this even happen?" 547 00:55:18,205 --> 00:55:20,379 It was like magic. 548 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:45,335 Hello? Hi, guy. How are you doing? 549 00:55:45,379 --> 00:55:47,379 - Hello? - Hiya. 550 00:55:47,422 --> 00:55:48,683 Hi, David. 551 00:55:49,944 --> 00:55:51,727 Yeah, I know this voice. 552 00:55:54,031 --> 00:55:56,248 Go on, keep talking, will ya? 553 00:55:56,292 --> 00:55:59,205 - Hello? - Hello. You sound incredibly tall. 554 00:55:59,248 --> 00:56:01,770 Am I right? Are you a tall person? 555 00:56:01,814 --> 00:56:05,031 I can't, unfortunately I can't hear you very well. 556 00:56:05,075 --> 00:56:06,995 You're a tall person with really long hair, yeah? 557 00:56:07,031 --> 00:56:09,031 I'm a tall person with really long hair. 558 00:56:09,075 --> 00:56:11,814 - I weigh about 300 pounds. - Yeah, it's Moby, isn't it? 559 00:56:11,857 --> 00:56:14,379 One of the sexiest men... 560 00:56:21,205 --> 00:56:24,205 David Bowie was my favorite musician of all time. 561 00:56:24,248 --> 00:56:26,335 Maybe 2000, 2001... 562 00:56:26,379 --> 00:56:29,596 He moved across the street to me and I couldn't believe it. 563 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,031 Like I became friends with David Bowie. 564 00:56:32,075 --> 00:56:34,640 Some of the moments that he and I had together, 565 00:56:34,683 --> 00:56:36,770 I almost feel like there was maybe like 566 00:56:36,814 --> 00:56:41,248 a quasi older brother quality to his friendship with me. 567 00:56:41,292 --> 00:56:44,379 And we had barbecues together. We went to the deli together. 568 00:56:44,422 --> 00:56:46,727 We got tea together and we worked on music together, 569 00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:49,988 and we had holidays together and dinners together. 570 00:56:50,031 --> 00:56:51,596 And we got to go on tour together. 571 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,596 David Bowie and Moby! 572 00:57:46,814 --> 00:57:51,335 Here I was, this panicking, alcoholic, bald musician 573 00:57:51,379 --> 00:57:54,075 who thought his career was over. 574 00:57:54,117 --> 00:57:56,422 And then all of a sudden my career wasn't just over, 575 00:57:56,466 --> 00:57:58,509 but it had become like actual rock stardom. 576 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,117 I'd walk down the street and people knew who I was, 577 00:58:06,161 --> 00:58:09,944 and I would go to parties and women I'd never met would flirt with me 578 00:58:09,988 --> 00:58:16,031 and then headlining my own festival, you know, with New Order and Outkast 579 00:58:16,075 --> 00:58:18,248 and these big bands opening up for me. 580 00:58:18,292 --> 00:58:22,031 I mean an album like Play transcends the music industry 581 00:58:22,075 --> 00:58:25,422 because it became a mainstream phenomenon. 582 00:58:25,466 --> 00:58:30,292 It ultimately completely corrupted and ruined me, 583 00:58:30,335 --> 00:58:33,205 but at the time it was so much fun 584 00:58:33,248 --> 00:58:36,466 to go from being kind of a washed-up has-been 585 00:58:36,509 --> 00:58:39,901 to dating movie stars and going to these parties and making a lot of money 586 00:58:39,944 --> 00:58:42,683 and touring and playing in front of tens of thousands of people. 587 00:58:42,727 --> 00:58:47,814 Like maybe I should pretend it wasn't great, but for a minute it was really great. 588 00:58:47,857 --> 00:58:49,944 And it was mind boggling. 589 00:58:49,988 --> 00:58:52,944 And every day I drank more. 590 00:58:52,988 --> 00:58:56,596 I started doing a lot of drugs, and... 591 00:58:58,814 --> 00:59:03,205 it was amazing, but terrible at the same time. 592 00:59:03,248 --> 00:59:07,944 I mean like my narcissism, my entitlement, just were really out of control. 593 00:59:10,248 --> 00:59:12,770 Yeah. Um... 594 00:59:12,814 --> 00:59:14,770 Do you want me to pick you up anything here? 595 00:59:14,814 --> 00:59:17,075 Yeah. It's an Indian grocery. 596 01:00:01,031 --> 01:00:03,857 Hi. So we're here talking to Moby, 597 01:00:03,901 --> 01:00:09,248 and, uh, I want to ask him some questions about fame. 598 01:00:09,292 --> 01:00:13,988 So, Moby, what are your thoughts about the world of fame? 599 01:00:14,031 --> 01:00:16,596 How did you buy into fame? 600 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,335 And why would you think it was so important to you? 601 01:00:20,379 --> 01:00:22,248 It's confusing to me. 602 01:00:22,292 --> 01:00:25,640 I think that you're not a stupid person. 603 01:00:25,683 --> 01:00:29,335 So why do you think you bought into the cold culture of fame? 604 01:00:29,379 --> 01:00:33,988 I think I just saw it as a way of, I dunno, very simply it made me feel better. 605 01:00:34,031 --> 01:00:39,031 It made me feel like I had legitimacy, and meaning, that my life had worth. 606 01:00:39,075 --> 01:00:43,814 So you keep saying that, not having worth and legitimacy, and how do you feel now? 607 01:00:43,857 --> 01:00:46,640 I mean, how do you think you got out of that pattern? 608 01:00:46,683 --> 01:00:49,901 How do you measure yourself? Playwas your biggest hit, right? 609 01:00:49,944 --> 01:00:51,944 - Mm-hmm. - You've never topped that since. 610 01:00:51,988 --> 01:00:54,161 - No. - Why? 611 01:00:54,205 --> 01:00:56,857 That's a good question. 612 01:00:56,901 --> 01:00:59,335 You keep saying that, that's what I'm here to do. 613 01:00:59,379 --> 01:01:00,683 Yeah. 614 01:01:00,727 --> 01:01:03,379 And I'm, I don't know. 615 01:01:03,422 --> 01:01:06,944 Like I desperately wanted them to be as successful as Play 616 01:01:06,988 --> 01:01:09,770 and it would make me sad that each record was sort of like 617 01:01:09,814 --> 01:01:11,901 successively less successful... 618 01:01:11,944 --> 01:01:12,857 And... 619 01:01:12,901 --> 01:01:14,988 Do you analyze it? 620 01:01:15,031 --> 01:01:19,901 We've talked about this, when Playbecame successful, I loved it. 621 01:01:19,944 --> 01:01:22,857 I pretended I didn't really care. 622 01:01:22,901 --> 01:01:26,944 I tried really hard to pretend when I talked to journalists or people 623 01:01:26,988 --> 01:01:30,596 that fame didn't matter to me, but I loved it. 624 01:01:34,379 --> 01:01:36,944 Were you anxious? Depressed? 625 01:01:36,988 --> 01:01:38,422 What were you going through? 626 01:01:38,466 --> 01:01:41,509 I was angry. I was like an addict, you know. 627 01:01:41,553 --> 01:01:46,205 Like a baby who was being weaned from his mother's breast. 628 01:01:46,248 --> 01:01:50,422 Like an addict who like, the crack pipe was being taken away from me. 629 01:01:50,466 --> 01:01:53,857 And I was angry, and I was scared, and I was sad, 630 01:01:53,901 --> 01:01:59,335 and I just wanted anything that would bring the fame back to me. 631 01:02:01,248 --> 01:02:02,944 As your therapist, 632 01:02:02,988 --> 01:02:06,335 it's my professional and personal opinion 633 01:02:06,379 --> 01:02:09,596 that you are a sad and broken human being. 634 01:02:11,596 --> 01:02:14,075 I mean, you know what I'm talking about, right? 635 01:03:53,988 --> 01:03:55,553 Oh, hey. 636 01:03:56,857 --> 01:03:59,205 I didn't expect to see you down here. 637 01:04:02,422 --> 01:04:04,466 Wow, I haven't seen you in a while. 638 01:04:06,117 --> 01:04:09,988 I never really understood what you were. 639 01:04:10,031 --> 01:04:14,770 You're an alien, but are you an alien bug? 640 01:04:14,814 --> 01:04:16,901 'Cause you have antenna. 641 01:04:16,944 --> 01:04:19,901 You're sort of a self-portrait. 642 01:04:19,944 --> 01:04:22,596 You're bald except for antenna. 643 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,466 I'm bald. 644 01:04:24,509 --> 01:04:28,205 You come from another planet. I come from another planet. 645 01:04:28,248 --> 01:04:30,683 Do you want to go for one more, 646 01:04:30,727 --> 01:04:32,814 do you want to go for a ride? 647 01:04:32,857 --> 01:04:35,422 Is your, your ship is here? 648 01:04:37,814 --> 01:04:41,379 Okay. Let's go for one, you want to? Yeah, let's go. 649 01:04:41,422 --> 01:04:46,422 The status quo wasn't going to last, I didn't want to admit that to myself. 650 01:04:46,466 --> 01:04:48,466 And then I started getting really bad reviews. 651 01:04:48,509 --> 01:04:51,007 Like I remember The New York Timesgave one of my records a review 652 01:04:51,031 --> 01:04:53,398 where they said it was so bad, it represented the end of music. 653 01:04:53,422 --> 01:04:56,075 - Really? - Yeah. It was on the homepage of The New York Times 654 01:04:56,117 --> 01:04:57,901 - for a week. - The end of music. 655 01:04:57,944 --> 01:05:00,031 And there were people writing in comments about 656 01:05:00,075 --> 01:05:03,031 not just that they didn't like me, but they wanted to stab me to death. 657 01:05:03,075 --> 01:05:05,248 They wanted to kick me to death on the street. 658 01:05:05,292 --> 01:05:08,248 - They wanted to hang me. - Where is this? 659 01:05:08,292 --> 01:05:10,988 Just like where people like write crazy ass stuff. 660 01:05:11,031 --> 01:05:14,161 And it was, it really started to freak me out. 661 01:05:14,205 --> 01:05:16,640 'Cause I was like, oh, this is the media. 662 01:05:16,683 --> 01:05:18,596 - Right. - This is the thing that I love. 663 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,379 This is the thing that I need to feel good about myself. 664 01:05:21,422 --> 01:05:25,422 And not only are they paying less attention to me, 665 01:05:25,466 --> 01:05:30,683 but the attention they're paying to me is so hurtful. 666 01:05:30,727 --> 01:05:32,117 - Right. - You know? 667 01:05:32,161 --> 01:05:35,944 And so, and it... it really was disconcerting. 668 01:05:38,248 --> 01:05:40,248 You suck! 669 01:05:40,292 --> 01:05:42,553 Nobody listens to techno! 670 01:05:42,596 --> 01:05:46,335 Nobody listens to techno! 671 01:05:46,379 --> 01:05:49,335 Nobody listens to techno! 672 01:05:49,379 --> 01:05:52,205 You suck! 673 01:05:52,248 --> 01:05:55,248 You suuuuck! 674 01:05:56,988 --> 01:05:58,727 You suuuuck! 675 01:06:00,553 --> 01:06:05,596 Nobody listens to techno! 676 01:06:07,379 --> 01:06:11,248 I was in Barcelona for the MTV Music Awards, 677 01:06:11,292 --> 01:06:14,857 and I'd been told beforehand that I was going to be winning an MTV Music Award. 678 01:06:14,901 --> 01:06:17,379 And it was going to be my third or fourth 679 01:06:17,422 --> 01:06:20,379 or fifth MTV Music Award that I was winning. 680 01:06:20,422 --> 01:06:25,031 And I got to my hotel in Barcelona the night before the MTV Music Awards. 681 01:06:25,075 --> 01:06:31,379 And I was at the top of one of the most elegant hotels I've ever been to. 682 01:06:31,422 --> 01:06:33,292 It's called the Arts Hotel. 683 01:06:33,335 --> 01:06:37,944 And there were four huge apartments at the top of this hotel, 684 01:06:37,988 --> 01:06:42,031 and my neighbors were P. Diddy, Bon Jovi, and Madonna. 685 01:06:42,075 --> 01:06:44,248 So the four of us were sharing this floor. 686 01:06:44,292 --> 01:06:46,379 It's overlooking Barcelona and the Mediterranean. 687 01:06:52,422 --> 01:06:57,770 And that night I ended up getting very drunk... 688 01:06:57,814 --> 01:07:02,857 and everything was perfect. 689 01:07:02,901 --> 01:07:07,161 You know, everything I'd ever wanted had been given to me, even more so. 690 01:07:07,205 --> 01:07:09,442 You know, like I just wanted to make a few obscure records 691 01:07:09,466 --> 01:07:14,770 and all of a sudden, like I'm at the top of this crazy hotel 692 01:07:14,814 --> 01:07:18,031 and I've sold 10 or 20 million records. 693 01:07:18,075 --> 01:07:24,379 And everything had been given to me that I'd ever wanted times a million. 694 01:07:24,422 --> 01:07:27,596 And I was so despondent. 695 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:32,335 How strange it was that I've been given everything 696 01:07:32,379 --> 01:07:35,031 and I'd never been more depressed. 697 01:07:37,509 --> 01:07:41,248 And one of the only things that kept me from killing myself was the fact 698 01:07:41,292 --> 01:07:44,857 that the windows in the hotel didn't open wide enough. 699 01:07:50,379 --> 01:07:52,553 And I was even annoyed at that. 700 01:07:52,596 --> 01:07:56,596 I was like, wow, I can't even kill myself. 701 01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,553 Even that somehow is denied me. 702 01:08:00,596 --> 01:08:03,031 It was such an odd moment 703 01:08:03,075 --> 01:08:07,640 to be at what was ostensibly the pinnacle of my career 704 01:08:07,683 --> 01:08:09,944 and the pinnacle of my life 705 01:08:09,988 --> 01:08:12,595 and to have never been more depressed. 706 01:08:34,117 --> 01:08:37,248 I went back to New York, and I just started drinking more, 707 01:08:37,292 --> 01:08:39,379 and I started doing cocaine. 708 01:08:39,422 --> 01:08:42,117 I'd always avoided cocaine because of all the drugs, 709 01:08:42,161 --> 01:08:43,988 that was the one that scared me the most. 710 01:08:44,031 --> 01:08:45,988 So I was having 15 drinks a night, 711 01:08:46,031 --> 01:08:49,117 a couple hundred dollars' worth of cocaine every night, 712 01:08:49,161 --> 01:08:51,378 and then every morning at like 7:00, 713 01:08:51,421 --> 01:08:54,248 I would try to go to sleep and I would take Xanax 714 01:08:54,292 --> 01:09:00,553 and Vicodin and I would wake up so disappointed 715 01:09:00,596 --> 01:09:02,379 that I was still alive. 716 01:09:02,422 --> 01:09:05,943 And it got to the point where when I went to sleep, 717 01:09:05,988 --> 01:09:08,378 all I wanted was to never wake up. 718 01:09:08,422 --> 01:09:12,727 But somehow, and maybe I'm like part cockroach or part rat, 719 01:09:12,770 --> 01:09:16,031 I just kept waking up, you know, at 4 or 5 in the afternoon 720 01:09:16,075 --> 01:09:18,769 so disappointed I was still alive. 721 01:09:18,814 --> 01:09:21,640 And I was physically, I was starting to turn gray, 722 01:09:21,683 --> 01:09:26,509 and I was all puffy, and I had this like alcoholic bloatedness. 723 01:09:26,553 --> 01:09:28,379 There were complete strangers in my apartment. 724 01:09:28,421 --> 01:09:31,247 People were smoking crystal meth in my bathroom. 725 01:09:31,292 --> 01:09:33,553 There are people I'd never met having sex in my bed. 726 01:09:33,595 --> 01:09:38,422 Finally in 2008, I think I just bottomed out, 727 01:09:38,465 --> 01:09:44,205 you know, in every way, like physically, emotionally, spiritually. 728 01:09:44,248 --> 01:09:50,075 Yeah. And then 2008, October, 2008, I finally stopped drinking. 729 01:12:17,292 --> 01:12:19,422 In the crack neighborhood in Stamford, I was happier. 730 01:12:19,466 --> 01:12:21,988 Making $3,000 a year, I was happier. 731 01:12:22,031 --> 01:12:24,596 Paying $50 a month so I could squat, 732 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,596 I was happier than when I was living overlooking Central Park. 733 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,988 Felt like such a confused... 734 01:12:30,031 --> 01:12:33,726 'cause I had thought that living in this perfect home was going to fix everything. 735 01:12:33,770 --> 01:12:38,292 Like, how couldn't it? When I found the perfect home, I would be perfectly happy. 736 01:12:38,335 --> 01:12:43,205 When you set your sights, you know you spend your entire life working towards something 737 01:12:43,248 --> 01:12:45,075 and you achieve it and you're less happy 738 01:12:45,116 --> 01:12:48,247 than before you even started working to achieve it, 739 01:12:48,291 --> 01:12:50,553 you don't know what else to do. 740 01:12:52,596 --> 01:12:56,683 Give up the familiar, even if it's killing you, 741 01:12:56,727 --> 01:12:59,944 and you have to figure out then what works. 742 01:13:56,248 --> 01:13:58,379 90% of rainforest deforestation, 743 01:13:58,422 --> 01:14:00,943 probably 75% of erectile dysfunction... 744 01:14:03,117 --> 01:14:05,248 40% of California's water use, 745 01:14:05,292 --> 01:14:07,900 50% of cancer, diabetes, heart disease, 746 01:14:07,944 --> 01:14:09,987 close to 100% of famine, 747 01:14:10,031 --> 01:14:12,268 'cause all the food that they're feeding the cows, et cetera, 748 01:14:12,292 --> 01:14:13,379 could be fed to people. 749 01:14:13,421 --> 01:14:15,596 50% of ocean acidification. 750 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,379 So in one fell swoop, you address all these environmental issues 751 01:14:19,422 --> 01:14:22,727 just by stopping subsidizing animal agriculture. 752 01:14:22,769 --> 01:14:24,422 That's my quick spiel. 753 01:14:32,248 --> 01:14:35,770 I think people should speak up about what they believe in. 754 01:14:35,814 --> 01:14:37,596 So, Moby, more power to him, you know. 755 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,248 What he's speaking about all the time is, are positive things. 756 01:14:41,292 --> 01:14:45,596 And... but he's known for, you know, great music. 757 01:14:45,639 --> 01:14:50,640 And I think Moby really does, you know, love, you know, what he does 758 01:14:50,683 --> 01:14:52,640 and more power to him. 759 01:14:52,683 --> 01:14:54,268 Just keep on making that great music, Mo. 760 01:14:54,292 --> 01:14:57,030 Just as an aside, not to take up too much time, 761 01:14:57,074 --> 01:14:59,205 but like, have you looked around recently? 762 01:14:59,248 --> 01:15:01,770 This is real. 763 01:15:01,814 --> 01:15:04,640 Like, you know? 764 01:15:04,682 --> 01:15:06,248 I mean, you look at the space, 765 01:15:06,292 --> 01:15:08,770 and you look at the people, this is real. 766 01:15:08,814 --> 01:15:10,857 Like I've been a vegan for 30 years. 767 01:15:10,901 --> 01:15:13,727 30 years ago, this didn't exist. 768 01:15:15,379 --> 01:15:16,988 So let's just take a moment. 769 01:15:17,031 --> 01:15:19,814 I mean, we have a long way to go, 770 01:15:19,857 --> 01:15:21,335 but boy, we've come so far. 771 01:15:23,509 --> 01:15:27,770 Moby and I are super excited to present this evening's incredible news. 772 01:15:27,814 --> 01:15:30,683 In just a few weeks, we will be launching 773 01:15:30,727 --> 01:15:35,248 the world's first ever vegan music festival right here in Los Angeles. 774 01:15:49,031 --> 01:15:52,944 First off just once again, thank you to everyone. 775 01:15:52,988 --> 01:15:54,988 And... 776 01:15:55,031 --> 01:15:57,770 ...one last thing before we play this song. 777 01:15:57,814 --> 01:16:00,117 Maybe this is smug of me to say this, 778 01:16:00,161 --> 01:16:02,075 but we're on the right side of history. 779 01:16:04,595 --> 01:16:07,378 It was just a given that at some point 780 01:16:07,422 --> 01:16:11,422 people will look at animal agriculture in the past 781 01:16:11,466 --> 01:16:13,640 the way we now look at slavery, 782 01:16:13,683 --> 01:16:16,466 or the way that we look at like women not being allowed to vote, 783 01:16:16,509 --> 01:16:20,856 or the way we look at African-Americans and Caucasians 784 01:16:20,901 --> 01:16:22,877 not being allowed to use the same drinking fountain. 785 01:16:22,901 --> 01:16:27,421 Like as Martin Luther King Jr. Said, and we often paraphrase, 786 01:16:27,465 --> 01:16:30,988 the moral arc of the universe is long and it bends towards justice. 787 01:16:31,031 --> 01:16:34,161 It also bends towards the pragmatic reason. 788 01:16:34,205 --> 01:16:38,379 And there's so many reasons to consider veganism. 789 01:16:38,422 --> 01:16:42,682 Like using animals for food is the dumbest, cruelest thing 790 01:16:42,727 --> 01:16:45,596 that we have ever done collectively as a species. 791 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,683 And to that end, 792 01:16:47,727 --> 01:16:49,466 I know it's going to stop, 793 01:16:49,509 --> 01:16:52,857 especially because everybody here and people around the world 794 01:16:52,901 --> 01:16:54,683 are working so hard on it. 795 01:16:54,727 --> 01:16:57,596 So I would like to dedicate this song to all the ravers 796 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,770 and all the animal rights activists, and everyone. 797 01:17:00,814 --> 01:17:01,814 Thanks. 798 01:18:19,422 --> 01:18:22,857 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you... 799 01:19:00,466 --> 01:19:05,422 As I've gotten older, the world of people just doesn't interest me as much. 800 01:19:18,292 --> 01:19:22,031 Nothing that humans make ever compares 801 01:19:23,379 --> 01:19:25,161 to what I can find in nature. 802 01:19:26,813 --> 01:19:28,770 There are no signs. 803 01:19:28,814 --> 01:19:30,770 There's no advertisements. 804 01:19:30,814 --> 01:19:37,031 There's this wonderful, still indifference to us. 805 01:19:39,814 --> 01:19:44,465 As humans, we love feeling a sense of significance 806 01:19:44,509 --> 01:19:47,814 and we spend our whole lives pursuing significance 807 01:19:47,857 --> 01:19:53,116 and trying to maintain the fiction that we have great significance, 808 01:19:53,161 --> 01:19:56,683 but there's something really refreshing and nice 809 01:19:56,727 --> 01:20:00,205 about giving up any sense of significance 810 01:20:00,248 --> 01:20:04,900 and just remembering our place in the order of things. 811 01:20:07,379 --> 01:20:10,248 And even though I'm still crazy, 812 01:20:10,292 --> 01:20:13,552 I think I've hopefully figured out 813 01:20:13,596 --> 01:20:16,596 how to avoid looking for like big, giant things 814 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,813 to fix more like small internal problems, but... 815 01:20:23,379 --> 01:20:25,596 Where am, where am I? 816 01:25:19,814 --> 01:25:21,161 Hey, Hey. 817 01:25:21,205 --> 01:25:22,944 Hey. Hey. 818 01:25:22,988 --> 01:25:24,944 Death. Hey! 819 01:25:27,117 --> 01:25:28,379 Hey. 820 01:25:32,553 --> 01:25:33,814 Hey. 821 01:25:37,770 --> 01:25:39,248 Hey, Death. 822 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,030 Hey, Death. 823 01:25:50,075 --> 01:25:52,335 Hey. 824 01:25:52,379 --> 01:25:54,205 What are you doing out here? 825 01:25:59,553 --> 01:26:01,335 No. 826 01:26:01,379 --> 01:26:03,814 I mean, it's a beautiful day. You want to go for a walk? 827 01:26:06,161 --> 01:26:08,857 Nah, come on. It's... It's a nice day. 828 01:26:11,117 --> 01:26:15,117 So it might sound weird, 829 01:26:15,161 --> 01:26:18,248 but I could almost, in an odd way, 830 01:26:18,292 --> 01:26:20,640 say that I'm sort of a fan of your work... 831 01:26:20,683 --> 01:26:22,857 ...because... 832 01:26:22,901 --> 01:26:26,335 Yeah, I know, I think a lot of people have 833 01:26:26,379 --> 01:26:28,335 some weird opinions about you, 834 01:26:28,379 --> 01:26:31,596 but I'm also an animal rights activist, 835 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,596 and for most animals, especially the ones on factory farms, like, 836 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,161 who experience nothing in their entire lives but sickness and suffering, 837 01:26:39,205 --> 01:26:44,031 like without you, there's no end to their suffering. 838 01:26:44,075 --> 01:26:49,553 I mean think of all the sick and suffering people. 839 01:26:49,596 --> 01:26:52,075 You know, without you, 840 01:26:52,117 --> 01:26:55,988 there is quite literally no end to their suffering. 841 01:26:56,031 --> 01:26:59,596 I mean, you are merciful. 842 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,640 And I think it's also a little strange that people are afraid of you 843 01:27:03,683 --> 01:27:05,943 and have such negative opinions about you because 844 01:27:05,988 --> 01:27:12,031 you're the only, literally, the only guarantee in people's lives. 845 01:27:12,075 --> 01:27:15,596 Yeah, I'm really, I mean, look, I mean, 846 01:27:15,639 --> 01:27:18,205 I meet a lot of public figures 847 01:27:18,248 --> 01:27:24,031 and I really don't want to be some fan weirdo, 848 01:27:24,075 --> 01:27:26,640 but yeah, I... 849 01:27:26,683 --> 01:27:27,857 I, I... 850 01:27:27,901 --> 01:27:30,031 But I am wondering, 851 01:27:30,075 --> 01:27:34,075 and I hear... you probably hear this all the time, 852 01:27:34,117 --> 01:27:38,031 but like what happens after we die? 853 01:29:22,988 --> 01:29:24,248 Everybody! Come on. 854 01:29:45,031 --> 01:29:47,596 - One more, come on. - A cappella. 71986

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