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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,276 --> 00:00:06,950 ERIN: Okay, this is it. 2 00:00:06,951 --> 00:00:08,951 KATHY (over phone): We're broadcasting on WQTI, 3 00:00:08,953 --> 00:00:11,888 streaming on WQTI.org. 4 00:00:11,890 --> 00:00:15,191 The name of our live podcast is Justice Denied. 5 00:00:15,193 --> 00:00:17,293 Our guest is Jeffrey Durning, 6 00:00:17,295 --> 00:00:19,529 distinguished heart surgeon, philanthropist, 7 00:00:19,531 --> 00:00:22,698 and defendant in one of the most sensational murder trials 8 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:23,800 of the decade. 9 00:00:23,802 --> 00:00:25,068 Jeffrey, thanks for joining us. 10 00:00:25,070 --> 00:00:26,736 JEFFREY: Thank you for having me on, Kathy. 11 00:00:26,738 --> 00:00:28,304 Oh, please, give me a break. 12 00:00:28,306 --> 00:00:30,506 You know they can't hear you, right? 13 00:00:31,576 --> 00:00:33,443 KATHY: I must admit, I feel a little strange 14 00:00:33,445 --> 00:00:35,044 talking to you. 15 00:00:35,046 --> 00:00:37,880 The last time we saw each other was a year ago in the courtroom 16 00:00:37,882 --> 00:00:40,316 when I was prosecuting you for killing your wife Beth. 17 00:00:40,318 --> 00:00:42,151 JEFFREY: I'm glad you had the courage to re-examine 18 00:00:42,153 --> 00:00:44,153 the evidence and come to a more honest conclusion, 19 00:00:44,155 --> 00:00:45,555 which is more than I can say 20 00:00:45,557 --> 00:00:46,689 for some of your former colleagues. 21 00:00:46,691 --> 00:00:47,924 Yeah, well, if he's so honest, 22 00:00:47,926 --> 00:00:49,525 how come you're hiding from us, 23 00:00:49,527 --> 00:00:52,895 and telling your story on the air instead of in a courtroom? 24 00:00:52,897 --> 00:00:54,664 The first trial ended in a hung jury, 25 00:00:54,666 --> 00:00:56,165 so tell me, why do you think 26 00:00:56,167 --> 00:00:58,534 the Manhattan D.A.'s office is coming after you again? 27 00:00:58,536 --> 00:01:00,069 Maybe because you killed your wife 28 00:01:00,071 --> 00:01:03,005 and you dumped her body from a plane over the Atlantic? 29 00:01:03,007 --> 00:01:04,574 JEFFREY: Obviously, the office has had a series 30 00:01:04,576 --> 00:01:06,576 of high-profile disasters. 31 00:01:06,578 --> 00:01:07,877 They're looking for a rich, white man's scalp 32 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:08,945 to make up for them. 33 00:01:08,947 --> 00:01:10,913 Of course, now we have my old friend 34 00:01:10,915 --> 00:01:13,149 Erin Reagan saying she has new evidence, 35 00:01:13,151 --> 00:01:14,884 but like your wife's body, no one has seen it. 36 00:01:14,886 --> 00:01:17,320 Police! Come on, out of the way. 37 00:01:17,322 --> 00:01:18,988 Move! Get out of the way. 38 00:01:18,990 --> 00:01:20,356 Oh, it looks like 39 00:01:20,358 --> 00:01:21,958 we have some surprise guests joining us. 40 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:23,726 We're gonna take a break. 41 00:01:24,796 --> 00:01:26,963 (taps on glass) 42 00:01:28,099 --> 00:01:29,565 Where is he? 43 00:01:29,567 --> 00:01:32,602 Obviously not on the premises. 44 00:01:37,976 --> 00:01:40,910 (car alarm blaring) 45 00:01:40,912 --> 00:01:43,012 Oh, my God, I hate these things! 46 00:01:43,014 --> 00:01:45,748 Aren't they supposed to shut off after three minutes? 47 00:01:45,750 --> 00:01:47,550 It's an older model; I guess the guy didn't get the message 48 00:01:47,552 --> 00:01:48,784 he needed to get it fixed. 49 00:01:48,786 --> 00:01:51,187 Or that he needs to move the car for street cleaning. 50 00:01:51,189 --> 00:01:52,622 How long has it been here? 51 00:01:52,624 --> 00:01:54,557 A couple days at least, right? 52 00:01:54,559 --> 00:01:55,558 Excuse me, ma'am! 53 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,360 (car alarm continues blaring) 54 00:01:57,362 --> 00:01:59,162 You know whose car this is? 55 00:01:59,164 --> 00:02:00,830 Hey, handsome. 56 00:02:00,832 --> 00:02:02,265 What's it worth to you? 57 00:02:02,267 --> 00:02:04,534 (chuckles) Well... 58 00:02:04,536 --> 00:02:07,403 My tenant, Harry Clark. 59 00:02:07,405 --> 00:02:09,939 I keep telling him he needs a new car. 60 00:02:09,941 --> 00:02:12,275 I know he can afford it. 61 00:02:12,277 --> 00:02:14,110 Would you have him come down? 62 00:02:14,112 --> 00:02:16,712 I would, if I'd seen him lately. 63 00:02:18,883 --> 00:02:22,118 Ma'am, do you notice that smell inside your apartment? 64 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,220 No. 65 00:02:24,222 --> 00:02:26,088 But my nose stopped working years ago. 66 00:02:26,090 --> 00:02:27,924 Too much fun in the '70s. 67 00:02:27,926 --> 00:02:29,225 You know what I'm saying. 68 00:02:29,227 --> 00:02:30,726 Come we come take a look? 69 00:02:30,728 --> 00:02:33,629 Sure. Come on in. 70 00:02:39,070 --> 00:02:40,503 Ugh. 71 00:02:40,505 --> 00:02:42,738 Ma'am, can you please wait outside? 72 00:02:44,742 --> 00:02:46,642 (gags) 73 00:02:46,644 --> 00:02:48,211 (coughs) 74 00:02:55,086 --> 00:02:57,587 (groans) Eddie, he's in here. 75 00:02:57,589 --> 00:02:59,555 Oh, he's ripe. 76 00:02:59,557 --> 00:03:01,357 (groans) 77 00:03:01,359 --> 00:03:02,925 (coughs) 78 00:03:05,029 --> 00:03:06,095 (groans) 79 00:03:06,097 --> 00:03:07,930 It's been a few days, huh? 80 00:03:07,932 --> 00:03:10,099 Oh. 81 00:03:10,101 --> 00:03:11,300 Poor Harry. 82 00:03:11,302 --> 00:03:13,502 Ma'am, I asked you to wait outside. Aw. 83 00:03:13,504 --> 00:03:14,770 Is this Harry Clark, ma'am? 84 00:03:14,772 --> 00:03:16,472 Yeah. 85 00:03:16,474 --> 00:03:18,608 Although, come to think of it, 86 00:03:18,610 --> 00:03:20,543 I'm not sure that's his real name. 87 00:03:20,545 --> 00:03:22,612 What do you mean? 88 00:03:22,614 --> 00:03:24,547 I never saw a bank check with his name on it. 89 00:03:24,549 --> 00:03:26,415 Always paid the rent in cash. 90 00:03:26,417 --> 00:03:29,118 And some of his mail came with different names on it. 91 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,354 Do you have a next of kin we can contact? 92 00:03:31,356 --> 00:03:33,522 No. No one ever visited him. 93 00:03:33,524 --> 00:03:36,759 Uh, Eddie, see if you can find some Vicks. 94 00:03:36,761 --> 00:03:38,327 The smell's starting to get to me. 95 00:03:38,329 --> 00:03:40,062 I may have some. Thank you, ma'am. 96 00:03:40,064 --> 00:03:41,397 We're all set, thank you. Oh. 97 00:03:41,399 --> 00:03:43,799 Well, if you need me for anything, just call me. 98 00:03:43,801 --> 00:03:45,801 And, you, just call me. 99 00:03:45,803 --> 00:03:46,969 Okay. 100 00:03:48,573 --> 00:03:51,207 (exhales) 101 00:04:08,459 --> 00:04:10,893 Good to see you, Nick. You're looking well. 102 00:04:10,895 --> 00:04:13,195 Thank you. You, too. 103 00:04:13,197 --> 00:04:14,363 Thanks for this. 104 00:04:14,365 --> 00:04:15,564 Yeah. 105 00:04:15,566 --> 00:04:16,666 How's the family? 106 00:04:16,668 --> 00:04:17,967 Good. 107 00:04:17,969 --> 00:04:20,403 Yours? Grown up and out. 108 00:04:20,405 --> 00:04:23,606 Your son, kind of a hothead, whatever happened to him? 109 00:04:23,608 --> 00:04:25,808 Detective, first grade. Oh. 110 00:04:25,810 --> 00:04:28,044 And the other one, going to Harvard? 111 00:04:28,046 --> 00:04:29,412 On the job as well, 112 00:04:29,414 --> 00:04:32,048 and my daughter Erin works for the D.A.'s office. 113 00:04:32,050 --> 00:04:35,284 It's nice having a family business, huh? 114 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,521 It is. 115 00:04:38,523 --> 00:04:41,991 You know, Frank, when I heard that you got your father's job, 116 00:04:41,993 --> 00:04:44,260 I was happy to hear that. 117 00:04:44,262 --> 00:04:45,995 They gave it to the right man. 118 00:04:45,997 --> 00:04:48,898 Thank you. 119 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:50,199 Tyrell Dawes, come on in. 120 00:04:55,340 --> 00:04:57,807 Sit down. 121 00:05:12,190 --> 00:05:13,989 You know why you're here? 122 00:05:13,991 --> 00:05:16,092 My parole officer said I should come by here, 123 00:05:16,094 --> 00:05:18,094 but I didn't have to by law. 124 00:05:18,096 --> 00:05:19,995 This is your Offender Notification Forum. 125 00:05:19,997 --> 00:05:22,598 We hold them for people who just got out of prison 126 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,333 with a high risk of going back. 127 00:05:24,335 --> 00:05:26,135 Come on, man, what do you got, a crystal ball? 128 00:05:26,137 --> 00:05:28,037 You're a gang member who just did three and a half 129 00:05:28,039 --> 00:05:29,572 for committing a robbery with a handgun 130 00:05:29,574 --> 00:05:31,707 in New York City. 131 00:05:36,481 --> 00:05:37,713 (scoffs) Come on, man. 132 00:05:37,715 --> 00:05:40,549 What do you got, an extra eight-by-ten for my moms? 133 00:05:40,551 --> 00:05:42,418 Turn it over. 134 00:05:44,956 --> 00:05:48,491 What's "15" mean? 135 00:05:48,493 --> 00:05:51,093 if you commit another crime with a gun. 136 00:05:51,095 --> 00:05:52,361 And that's a hard number; 137 00:05:52,363 --> 00:05:54,964 there won't be any pleading it down. 138 00:05:54,966 --> 00:05:57,566 It's up to you, Tyrell. 139 00:05:57,568 --> 00:05:59,502 None of y'all know me. 140 00:05:59,504 --> 00:06:01,771 None of y'al know where I've been or where I'm going. 141 00:06:01,773 --> 00:06:03,005 Yeah, we do. 142 00:06:03,007 --> 00:06:05,341 You want to tell him or should I? 143 00:06:05,343 --> 00:06:07,309 May I? 144 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:11,514 I am here for the same reason that you are, 145 00:06:11,516 --> 00:06:13,449 because the commissioner asked me to be here, 146 00:06:13,451 --> 00:06:17,420 and because I just finished a 20-year bid of my own 147 00:06:17,422 --> 00:06:19,121 in the state prison. 148 00:06:19,123 --> 00:06:21,023 I could still be in that prison. 149 00:06:22,059 --> 00:06:24,660 I killed someone who threatened my family. 150 00:06:24,662 --> 00:06:26,395 Commissioner Reagan, who at that time 151 00:06:26,397 --> 00:06:28,063 was Detective Reagan, 152 00:06:28,065 --> 00:06:30,099 could've buried me. 153 00:06:30,101 --> 00:06:32,101 But he didn't. 154 00:06:32,103 --> 00:06:36,539 He gave me a fair shake. So I listened to him. 155 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,380 Man, is this real? 156 00:06:44,382 --> 00:06:46,582 Every word. 157 00:06:51,489 --> 00:06:54,123 (sighs) 158 00:06:54,125 --> 00:06:56,325 (exhales) 159 00:07:06,504 --> 00:07:08,671 (panting) 160 00:07:08,673 --> 00:07:10,272 Look at this. 161 00:07:12,176 --> 00:07:16,645 They're all $100 bills. There's gotta be ten of thousand of dollars in here. 162 00:07:16,647 --> 00:07:18,647 Eddie, I wouldn't be touching that. 163 00:07:20,751 --> 00:07:22,785 "Dear Sandi, I am so sorry about everything. 164 00:07:22,787 --> 00:07:25,287 Maybe the rest of this money will help." 165 00:07:25,289 --> 00:07:27,423 What's he got to be sorry for? 166 00:07:27,425 --> 00:07:29,625 Yeah, and who was he? 167 00:07:36,834 --> 00:07:40,834 ♪ Blue Bloods 6x18 ♪ Town Without Pity Original Air Date on April 1, 2016 168 00:07:40,858 --> 00:07:47,358 == sync, corrected by elderman == @elder_man 169 00:07:47,382 --> 00:07:54,925 ♪ ♪ 170 00:08:02,497 --> 00:08:04,598 (groaning) DANNY: What do we got? 171 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,200 Four wounded. One serious and likely to die. 172 00:08:07,202 --> 00:08:08,835 Shootout inside the diner. 173 00:08:08,837 --> 00:08:11,104 One of the rounds went through the front window. 174 00:08:11,106 --> 00:08:13,974 The likely is an Alex Kalamogdartis. 175 00:08:13,976 --> 00:08:15,041 Kala-what? 176 00:08:15,043 --> 00:08:16,176 I don't know, it's Greek. 177 00:08:16,178 --> 00:08:17,777 Okay, what about the other three vics? 178 00:08:17,779 --> 00:08:19,079 Two of them were other customers, 179 00:08:19,081 --> 00:08:22,048 and the third was a 12-year-old boy walking by outside 180 00:08:22,050 --> 00:08:23,350 with his family. 181 00:08:23,352 --> 00:08:24,684 Don't ask me to pronounce his name. 182 00:08:24,686 --> 00:08:27,687 Okay, so we got a gang war at a greasy spoon. Any witnesses? 183 00:08:27,689 --> 00:08:29,723 Well, no one's talking about why it jumped off tonight. 184 00:08:29,725 --> 00:08:31,825 We do know this Alex may have had a dispute 185 00:08:31,827 --> 00:08:32,792 with the management. 186 00:08:32,794 --> 00:08:34,527 Any actual witnesses to the shooting? 187 00:08:34,529 --> 00:08:35,962 Not so much. Hey, boss. 188 00:08:35,964 --> 00:08:37,864 Everyone's saying how it was too dark to see anything. 189 00:08:37,866 --> 00:08:39,399 Too dark in a brightly lit diner? 190 00:08:39,401 --> 00:08:40,900 Well, they've been renting it out 191 00:08:40,902 --> 00:08:42,469 as pop-up nightclub sometimes. 192 00:08:42,471 --> 00:08:43,870 The current owner is over there, 193 00:08:43,872 --> 00:08:46,172 Stavros Constantine. 194 00:08:46,174 --> 00:08:48,208 Hey, Stavros. 195 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:51,344 Hey! Want to tell us what this is about? 196 00:08:51,346 --> 00:08:53,146 I mean, I have no idea. 197 00:08:53,148 --> 00:08:55,815 We've never had any trouble on club nights before. 198 00:08:55,817 --> 00:08:58,785 Oh, well, can't imagine people shooting your place up 199 00:08:58,787 --> 00:09:00,920 if all you're doing is serving moussaka. 200 00:09:00,922 --> 00:09:02,288 Listen, I'm as confused as you are, okay? 201 00:09:02,290 --> 00:09:03,590 One minute, I'm in the back 202 00:09:03,592 --> 00:09:05,558 making sure we got enough champagne for bottle service, 203 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:06,926 and the next, 204 00:09:06,928 --> 00:09:08,995 bang, bang, bang, it's all hell is breaking loose. 205 00:09:08,997 --> 00:09:10,497 So you're trying to tell us 206 00:09:10,499 --> 00:09:12,132 you don't know anything about this Alex Kala-what? 207 00:09:12,134 --> 00:09:13,466 ...mogdartis. 208 00:09:13,468 --> 00:09:15,135 Kalamogdartis. Yeah, yeah, of course. 209 00:09:15,137 --> 00:09:17,203 Of course I know Alex Kalamogdartis. 210 00:09:17,205 --> 00:09:19,205 It's like the Trojan War with our families. 211 00:09:19,207 --> 00:09:20,440 What's that mean? 212 00:09:20,442 --> 00:09:21,808 He's been trying to take over our diner. 213 00:09:21,810 --> 00:09:23,043 Mm-hmm. But he's been doing that 214 00:09:23,045 --> 00:09:25,879 to a lot of local businesses; he's a thug. 215 00:09:25,881 --> 00:09:27,280 And you have no idea who shot him. 216 00:09:27,282 --> 00:09:28,982 I'm afraid I-I can't help you. 217 00:09:28,984 --> 00:09:30,483 Can't or won't? 218 00:09:30,485 --> 00:09:31,685 Okay, well, we're gonna assume 219 00:09:31,687 --> 00:09:33,286 that you don't have a cabaret license 220 00:09:33,288 --> 00:09:34,621 for this little nightclub of yours, 221 00:09:34,623 --> 00:09:35,822 so here's what we're gonna do. 222 00:09:35,824 --> 00:09:37,357 You're gonna get your hands out of your pocket, 223 00:09:37,359 --> 00:09:38,925 and then you're gonna take a ride with us. 224 00:09:38,927 --> 00:09:41,161 See if that jogs your memory. Come on. 225 00:09:47,102 --> 00:09:48,768 (groans) So what? 226 00:09:48,770 --> 00:09:50,503 Now that the supervisors have been and gone, 227 00:09:50,505 --> 00:09:52,238 we just have to sit here, 228 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,574 safeguard the place until the public administrator 229 00:09:54,576 --> 00:09:58,645 comes and starts to try to make inventory of all this? 230 00:09:59,448 --> 00:10:00,947 Real-life police work, Eddie. 231 00:10:00,949 --> 00:10:03,049 It's not all paperwork and donuts. 232 00:10:03,051 --> 00:10:05,185 (chuckles) 233 00:10:05,187 --> 00:10:07,954 You know, we turned over a lot of money yesterday, 234 00:10:07,956 --> 00:10:09,856 and there's still no next of kin. 235 00:10:09,858 --> 00:10:12,525 Some of this junk lying around might be worth something. 236 00:10:12,527 --> 00:10:14,961 Bosses just want us to keep an eye on it 237 00:10:14,963 --> 00:10:17,430 till things get settled. 238 00:10:17,432 --> 00:10:20,734 Yeah, well, hey, can we open a window, please? 239 00:10:20,736 --> 00:10:22,469 The guy's gone, but that stink is 240 00:10:22,471 --> 00:10:24,637 very much still here. 241 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:31,044 You know, 242 00:10:31,046 --> 00:10:33,446 Harry must have been hiding from something. 243 00:10:33,448 --> 00:10:36,182 Or someone. 244 00:10:36,184 --> 00:10:38,618 Sounds like he's been locked up in this apartment 245 00:10:38,620 --> 00:10:40,053 the last 25 years. 246 00:10:43,525 --> 00:10:45,091 Hey, Jamie, do you remember 247 00:10:45,093 --> 00:10:47,961 the New York Benefactors' Trust robbery? 248 00:10:47,963 --> 00:10:50,630 1992, $21 million stolen. 249 00:10:50,632 --> 00:10:52,298 Yeah, biggest heist in the city's history. 250 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:54,501 Most of it never recovered. 251 00:10:56,605 --> 00:11:00,106 Keep finding all these clippings that Harry kept about it. 252 00:11:02,911 --> 00:11:05,311 Jamie, you don't think... 253 00:11:05,313 --> 00:11:06,980 (sighs) 254 00:11:22,898 --> 00:11:25,632 Should we order first or argue first? 255 00:11:25,634 --> 00:11:27,634 I'm happy to get business out of the way. 256 00:11:27,636 --> 00:11:29,769 We have an arrest warrant for Jeffrey Durning, 257 00:11:29,771 --> 00:11:31,504 and I want to know where he is. 258 00:11:31,506 --> 00:11:33,239 What if I told you I don't know? 259 00:11:33,241 --> 00:11:34,707 Except that he's somewhere in Europe. 260 00:11:34,709 --> 00:11:36,509 I wouldn't believe you. 261 00:11:36,511 --> 00:11:38,111 This isn't about me. 262 00:11:38,113 --> 00:11:39,779 It's about the facts of the case. 263 00:11:39,781 --> 00:11:41,681 Right after the trial, 264 00:11:41,683 --> 00:11:46,619 I started hearing from witnesses that Beth might still be alive. 265 00:11:46,621 --> 00:11:49,122 She was a very unstable woman, Erin. 266 00:11:49,124 --> 00:11:51,024 We are going to retry this case. 267 00:11:51,026 --> 00:11:52,992 We just need him back in custody. 268 00:11:52,994 --> 00:11:55,929 Obviously, you're worried about losing this case 269 00:11:55,931 --> 00:11:58,198 in a court of public opinion before it goes to trial. 270 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,499 If you have new evidence, 271 00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:01,367 why don't you come on my show to talk about it? 272 00:12:01,369 --> 00:12:03,703 How about this? 273 00:12:03,705 --> 00:12:06,539 I have you subpoenaed and brought before the grand jury, 274 00:12:06,541 --> 00:12:08,675 and if you don't answer the questions, I will ask the judge 275 00:12:08,677 --> 00:12:10,176 to hold you in contempt. 276 00:12:10,178 --> 00:12:11,411 You'll never win. 277 00:12:11,413 --> 00:12:12,579 Classic First Amendment case. 278 00:12:12,581 --> 00:12:15,048 But I don't have to tell you that, do I? 279 00:12:16,184 --> 00:12:17,951 (sighs) 280 00:12:19,821 --> 00:12:21,554 Good luck, Erin. 281 00:12:21,556 --> 00:12:24,791 I guess I wasn't all that hungry anyway. 282 00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:26,492 But maybe you are. 283 00:12:37,105 --> 00:12:39,339 (indistinct chatter, phones ringing) 284 00:12:44,346 --> 00:12:46,880 You weren't 100% honest with us last night, were you? 285 00:12:46,882 --> 00:12:49,115 What do you mean? 286 00:12:49,117 --> 00:12:50,116 I think you had more than 287 00:12:50,118 --> 00:12:52,252 breakfast, lunch and dinner on the menu. 288 00:12:52,254 --> 00:12:53,486 Alex K is a known drug dealer. 289 00:12:53,488 --> 00:12:54,954 He came to your place with a beef. 290 00:12:54,956 --> 00:12:56,456 Now, you're trying to tell me 291 00:12:56,458 --> 00:12:59,425 that if we bring the dogs in, they're not gonna find anything? 292 00:12:59,427 --> 00:13:00,827 I'm no drug dealer. 293 00:13:00,829 --> 00:13:02,362 I run a family business. 294 00:13:02,364 --> 00:13:04,998 Okay, well, maybe you wouldn't let him sell drugs in your club, 295 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,666 and that's why he had a beef. 296 00:13:08,036 --> 00:13:09,969 Come on, help me understand here. 297 00:13:09,971 --> 00:13:11,871 (knocking on door) 298 00:13:11,873 --> 00:13:13,039 (sighs) 299 00:13:15,710 --> 00:13:18,011 Finally got a couple of witness statements 300 00:13:18,013 --> 00:13:20,914 and a photo from a parking lot camera. 301 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,254 (whispers): Good work. 302 00:13:29,557 --> 00:13:31,524 Hmm. What's up? 303 00:13:31,526 --> 00:13:34,761 You know, I'm thinking, if you didn't fire the shots, 304 00:13:34,763 --> 00:13:36,930 then you definitely know who did. 305 00:13:36,932 --> 00:13:38,097 Who's this? 306 00:13:41,002 --> 00:13:42,669 I don't know. 307 00:13:42,671 --> 00:13:44,003 You want to keep your business? 308 00:13:44,005 --> 00:13:45,171 You're gonna take another look 309 00:13:45,173 --> 00:13:47,106 and give me an honest answer this time. 310 00:13:47,108 --> 00:13:49,108 Come on. 311 00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:51,277 Come on! Who is it?! 312 00:13:56,918 --> 00:13:59,385 It's my father. 313 00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:06,326 FRANK: Nick Constantine 314 00:14:06,328 --> 00:14:08,628 is hardly a friend; I arrested him once. 315 00:14:08,630 --> 00:14:09,629 Not just that. 316 00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:10,897 Your testimony at his trial... 317 00:14:10,899 --> 00:14:12,899 Was entirely truthful. 318 00:14:12,901 --> 00:14:14,033 And helpful to the defense. 319 00:14:14,035 --> 00:14:15,935 And now that same person 320 00:14:15,937 --> 00:14:18,571 was present, arguably with motive, at the scene 321 00:14:18,573 --> 00:14:19,906 of a shooting and can't be found. 322 00:14:19,908 --> 00:14:21,040 Am I, in some way, suggesting 323 00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:22,642 we give him a head start? No, boss. 324 00:14:22,644 --> 00:14:24,110 Then what's your point? 325 00:14:24,112 --> 00:14:26,579 That old media has handed down the perception 326 00:14:26,581 --> 00:14:28,715 that you pulled punches when you testified at his trial. 327 00:14:28,717 --> 00:14:30,917 And two days ago, he was at your side 328 00:14:30,919 --> 00:14:32,785 at an Offender's Notification Forum 329 00:14:32,787 --> 00:14:34,654 in the role of model ex-con. 330 00:14:34,656 --> 00:14:36,556 I tell you what, you manage the perception, 331 00:14:36,558 --> 00:14:37,957 I'll manage my department. 332 00:14:37,959 --> 00:14:39,859 Less than a month ago, you came out strong 333 00:14:39,861 --> 00:14:41,527 against the mayor's Fresh Start program. 334 00:14:41,529 --> 00:14:42,395 This isn't that. 335 00:14:42,397 --> 00:14:44,797 Not your call, all due respect. 336 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:46,366 You need to distance yourself from the appearance 337 00:14:46,368 --> 00:14:48,401 that you've put your eggs in the Nick Constantine basket. 338 00:14:48,403 --> 00:14:50,903 A man does a wrong thing once in his life, 339 00:14:50,905 --> 00:14:52,638 in this case, for the right reason. 340 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,873 There is a part of me 341 00:14:53,875 --> 00:14:56,943 that believes that there can, in fact, be a chance 342 00:14:56,945 --> 00:14:59,145 for a second act in people's lives. 343 00:15:00,815 --> 00:15:02,281 Any idea where he's headed? 344 00:15:02,283 --> 00:15:04,884 We're tracking friends, cell records and credit cards, 345 00:15:04,886 --> 00:15:06,419 but after 20 years, 346 00:15:06,421 --> 00:15:08,521 he doesn't have that much of a network to plug into. 347 00:15:08,523 --> 00:15:10,223 Which means he can't be that far. 348 00:15:10,225 --> 00:15:11,290 Let's make it clear 349 00:15:11,292 --> 00:15:12,992 that we're devoting all our resources 350 00:15:12,994 --> 00:15:15,428 to hunting him down and making sure he pays. 351 00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:17,590 In other words, grandstand before all the facts are in. 352 00:15:18,666 --> 00:15:20,666 Is he even the prime suspect? 353 00:15:20,668 --> 00:15:23,603 Well, he's more than a person of interest. 354 00:15:23,605 --> 00:15:26,472 Then let's just find him. 355 00:15:34,340 --> 00:15:36,674 Yeah. Yeah, thanks. 356 00:15:37,874 --> 00:15:39,707 Public administrator's gonna be another day. 357 00:15:39,709 --> 00:15:41,209 They are backed up and understaffed. 358 00:15:41,211 --> 00:15:44,112 Well, Jamie, I just found more cash. 359 00:15:44,114 --> 00:15:45,446 Shouldn't we tell 360 00:15:45,448 --> 00:15:47,015 major case this could all be connected 361 00:15:47,017 --> 00:15:48,383 to that bank robbery? 362 00:15:48,385 --> 00:15:49,851 I already put a call in. 363 00:15:49,853 --> 00:15:51,419 It's no longer an active investigation. 364 00:15:51,421 --> 00:15:53,154 All the robbers are either 365 00:15:53,156 --> 00:15:54,656 dead or in prison, and the bank went under 366 00:15:54,658 --> 00:15:55,757 in the crash of '08. 367 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:58,192 We got no reason to think that Harry was involved 368 00:15:58,194 --> 00:15:59,427 other than the clippings. 369 00:15:59,429 --> 00:16:01,062 This cash could be legitimate. 370 00:16:01,064 --> 00:16:02,797 Well, then where did all the money come from? 371 00:16:02,799 --> 00:16:04,065 Doesn't look like this guy's had a job 372 00:16:04,067 --> 00:16:05,833 in a really long time. 373 00:16:05,835 --> 00:16:08,736 And why all this dog stuff and no dog? 374 00:16:08,738 --> 00:16:11,472 Hey, we just walked in your apartment, what would we find? 375 00:16:11,474 --> 00:16:13,574 Some laundry that needs to be folded, 376 00:16:13,576 --> 00:16:16,344 couple unpaid bills, maybe something in the DVD player 377 00:16:16,346 --> 00:16:17,845 I'd rather nobody find out. 378 00:16:17,847 --> 00:16:18,846 Really? 379 00:16:18,848 --> 00:16:20,615 The Little Mermaid. 380 00:16:20,617 --> 00:16:21,849 Oh. 381 00:16:21,851 --> 00:16:23,785 Jamie, I don't know. 382 00:16:23,787 --> 00:16:26,220 Part of me thinks this could be an integrity test by IAB 383 00:16:26,222 --> 00:16:27,789 to see what we would actually do. 384 00:16:27,791 --> 00:16:29,490 Do you know how crazy that sounds? 385 00:16:29,492 --> 00:16:30,458 (scoffs) 386 00:16:30,460 --> 00:16:32,760 (knocking on door) 387 00:16:35,532 --> 00:16:37,065 Can I help you? 388 00:16:37,067 --> 00:16:39,167 Officer Jamie Reagan? 389 00:16:39,169 --> 00:16:42,470 You left a message for me. 390 00:16:42,472 --> 00:16:43,838 About Harry Clark. 391 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,273 I'm Sandi Harper. 392 00:16:45,275 --> 00:16:47,475 This is my grandson, David. 393 00:16:47,477 --> 00:16:49,544 You knew him? He was a friend? 394 00:16:49,546 --> 00:16:51,512 I knew him. 395 00:16:51,514 --> 00:16:55,149 I wouldn't say he was a friend exactly. 396 00:16:55,151 --> 00:16:57,351 He just sent me money. 397 00:17:01,057 --> 00:17:03,391 Mindy, I don't know what this is. 398 00:17:03,393 --> 00:17:06,027 You gave us a statement that Jeffrey told you 399 00:17:06,029 --> 00:17:07,161 about killing his wife, 400 00:17:07,163 --> 00:17:08,963 and now you're just trying to take it back? 401 00:17:10,266 --> 00:17:14,102 Jeffrey came to visit me the other night. 402 00:17:14,104 --> 00:17:15,636 At my apartment. 403 00:17:15,638 --> 00:17:17,138 He's still in town? 404 00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:18,606 He heard that I was helping you 405 00:17:18,608 --> 00:17:21,142 and telling you the things that he said about Beth 406 00:17:21,144 --> 00:17:22,410 and how she disappeared. 407 00:17:22,412 --> 00:17:24,378 Did he say how he heard? 408 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:27,915 It sounded like he had a source that knew people at this office. 409 00:17:30,687 --> 00:17:33,521 He said that I could disappear, too. 410 00:17:33,523 --> 00:17:34,856 Just like Beth. 411 00:17:34,858 --> 00:17:36,624 He directly threatened you? 412 00:17:36,626 --> 00:17:39,293 He made it clear that it wouldn't be good for me. 413 00:17:39,295 --> 00:17:41,028 He called me his little shark bait. 414 00:17:41,030 --> 00:17:42,563 Like it was a joke. 415 00:17:42,565 --> 00:17:44,899 And then he left. 416 00:17:44,901 --> 00:17:47,702 He thinks you guys will never find him. 417 00:17:47,704 --> 00:17:51,372 I understand you're scared, but we need your testimony. 418 00:17:51,374 --> 00:17:53,975 Otherwise, he's gonna go out and do this to someone else. 419 00:17:53,977 --> 00:17:57,044 Seriously? Like this is my fault? 420 00:17:58,114 --> 00:18:00,014 I tried to tell you people about this before, 421 00:18:00,016 --> 00:18:01,015 and you wouldn't believe me. 422 00:18:01,017 --> 00:18:03,184 You tried to tell who? 423 00:18:03,186 --> 00:18:06,220 The prosecutor who had this case before you. 424 00:18:06,222 --> 00:18:08,222 Kathy Elliott. 425 00:18:15,698 --> 00:18:17,799 DANNY: Traffic camera last spotted Nick's car 426 00:18:17,801 --> 00:18:19,567 at this intersection. 427 00:18:21,037 --> 00:18:23,337 You see anything yet? 428 00:18:23,339 --> 00:18:25,173 BAEZ: This is it. 429 00:18:25,175 --> 00:18:26,908 This is the car Nick was driving. 430 00:18:26,910 --> 00:18:28,075 Of all the places 431 00:18:28,077 --> 00:18:29,777 he could be hiding out, and he chooses a diner? 432 00:18:29,779 --> 00:18:31,212 Well, it makes sense. 433 00:18:31,214 --> 00:18:32,747 He's probably hungry, doesn't have a lot of cash. 434 00:18:32,749 --> 00:18:33,815 Go with what you know. 435 00:18:33,817 --> 00:18:35,683 Like a married guy who divorces his wife, 436 00:18:35,685 --> 00:18:37,585 then marries the same kind of girl. 437 00:18:37,587 --> 00:18:39,120 Shouldn't we call it in 438 00:18:39,122 --> 00:18:40,521 and wait for backup? No. 439 00:18:40,523 --> 00:18:42,590 We're not gonna let him run out on the check this time. 440 00:18:42,592 --> 00:18:43,558 (sighs) 441 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,726 (indistinct chatter) 442 00:18:58,474 --> 00:19:01,075 You go that way. 443 00:19:01,878 --> 00:19:04,278 Excuse me. I need you to follow me. 444 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,281 Nick Constantine. 445 00:19:08,251 --> 00:19:10,585 How the hell you been? 446 00:19:11,421 --> 00:19:12,954 Remind me. 447 00:19:12,956 --> 00:19:14,255 Danny Reagan. 448 00:19:15,158 --> 00:19:16,657 Think you know my old man. 449 00:19:16,659 --> 00:19:20,261 Right, Danny. 450 00:19:20,263 --> 00:19:21,429 The hothead. 451 00:19:21,431 --> 00:19:22,630 How you doing? 452 00:19:22,632 --> 00:19:24,432 Maybe we should talk outside. 453 00:19:24,434 --> 00:19:27,201 Why would I do that? 454 00:19:27,203 --> 00:19:29,337 Everybody out of the diner. Let's go. 455 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:32,106 Let's go. Come on. Come on. 456 00:19:44,554 --> 00:19:46,320 You know, Danny, 457 00:19:46,322 --> 00:19:48,222 at my age... 458 00:19:50,159 --> 00:19:52,393 ...I'm not going back to prison. 459 00:19:52,395 --> 00:19:55,162 We can do this the hard way if you want. 460 00:19:55,164 --> 00:19:56,797 But I think you might've caused 461 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,267 enough pain for your family already. 462 00:20:05,108 --> 00:20:09,477 If... if I come with you, 463 00:20:09,479 --> 00:20:12,813 quietly... 464 00:20:12,815 --> 00:20:14,649 it's on one condition. 465 00:20:14,651 --> 00:20:16,417 I'm listening. 466 00:20:16,419 --> 00:20:19,887 I talk to Frank. 467 00:20:19,889 --> 00:20:21,889 Nobody else. 468 00:20:21,891 --> 00:20:23,557 Just Frank. 469 00:20:25,428 --> 00:20:27,361 I'll see what I can do. 470 00:20:40,143 --> 00:20:42,376 What's the old man doing? 471 00:20:42,378 --> 00:20:44,211 Talk to him. 472 00:20:56,059 --> 00:20:59,226 I got word your suspect wanted to speak to me. 473 00:20:59,228 --> 00:21:01,162 Yeah, he asked. 474 00:21:01,164 --> 00:21:02,797 And I didn't say yes. 475 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:04,598 Why not? 476 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,101 I don't typically offer up the commissioner's time 477 00:21:07,103 --> 00:21:08,369 as part of my deals. 478 00:21:08,371 --> 00:21:11,339 I'd like to make an exception in this instance. 479 00:21:11,341 --> 00:21:13,674 Well, since when do you come down here 480 00:21:13,676 --> 00:21:15,242 because a suspect asked you to? 481 00:21:15,244 --> 00:21:18,779 Can't think of the last time I did. 482 00:21:18,781 --> 00:21:21,048 Look, 483 00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:22,717 I know he's your collar, 484 00:21:22,719 --> 00:21:26,287 and you certainly don't need my help, Detective. 485 00:21:26,289 --> 00:21:28,422 You're as good as I got, but... 486 00:21:30,626 --> 00:21:32,827 ...he was my collar first. 487 00:21:35,665 --> 00:21:37,431 I have to know. 488 00:21:37,433 --> 00:21:40,001 Well, he's in the box. 489 00:21:40,003 --> 00:21:44,238 It might be better if I talked to him in here. 490 00:21:45,708 --> 00:21:47,375 Okay. 491 00:21:47,377 --> 00:21:48,709 Thank you. 492 00:21:48,711 --> 00:21:51,045 By the way, the gun we found on him 493 00:21:51,047 --> 00:21:53,414 does match the one used in the murder. 494 00:21:59,756 --> 00:22:01,956 (door closes) 495 00:22:15,311 --> 00:22:18,679 The coffee at our diner used to be the best coffee in the city. 496 00:22:18,681 --> 00:22:20,881 There's no chain places, 497 00:22:20,883 --> 00:22:23,584 one supplier for all of the diners in town. 498 00:22:23,586 --> 00:22:26,354 No special bean that comes out of a cat's ass. 499 00:22:26,356 --> 00:22:29,090 I didn't come down here to reminisce about coffee. 500 00:22:29,092 --> 00:22:30,858 Hmm. 501 00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:33,928 Alex Kalamogdartis. 502 00:22:33,930 --> 00:22:36,197 He was not a nice young man, Frank. 503 00:22:36,199 --> 00:22:39,400 Well, he died this morning. 504 00:22:40,670 --> 00:22:42,236 And "not nice" is not grounds 505 00:22:42,238 --> 00:22:44,438 for a justifiable homicide, Nick. 506 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,740 Rotten apple from a rotten tree. 507 00:22:45,742 --> 00:22:48,576 Come on, the kid had a record as long as the old man. 508 00:22:48,578 --> 00:22:50,111 I know that. 509 00:22:50,113 --> 00:22:51,278 Tell me what happened. 510 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,880 I got nothing to tell. 511 00:22:52,882 --> 00:22:54,281 I'm at my family restaurant, 512 00:22:54,283 --> 00:22:56,050 celebrating my freedom. 513 00:22:56,052 --> 00:22:57,518 In walks the kid. 514 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,253 Hot and bothered, stirring up trouble. 515 00:22:59,255 --> 00:23:00,955 Just like his old man. 516 00:23:00,957 --> 00:23:02,990 Next thing I know, bodies are falling. 517 00:23:02,992 --> 00:23:04,325 Who fired the shots? 518 00:23:04,327 --> 00:23:06,293 I don't know; it was dark, it was crowded, 519 00:23:06,295 --> 00:23:07,895 music was loud. 520 00:23:09,399 --> 00:23:10,765 Why do we have 521 00:23:10,767 --> 00:23:13,968 this picture of you leaving with the gun? 522 00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:17,004 (exhales) 523 00:23:17,006 --> 00:23:18,205 I wasn't thinking, Frank. 524 00:23:18,207 --> 00:23:20,174 I panicked when I saw the gun on the floor. 525 00:23:20,176 --> 00:23:22,877 All I could think was I got to get it out of here. 526 00:23:22,879 --> 00:23:26,313 You got a problem, or does the problem have you? 527 00:23:27,417 --> 00:23:29,884 You trying to cover for somebody? 528 00:23:29,886 --> 00:23:30,951 Not at all. 529 00:23:30,953 --> 00:23:32,653 Like, maybe you got used to life inside, 530 00:23:32,655 --> 00:23:34,055 had it wired pretty good. 531 00:23:34,057 --> 00:23:35,189 You're dead wrong. 532 00:23:35,191 --> 00:23:36,557 I'm not covering for anybody. 533 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,659 Right, and you have no idea who the shooter was 534 00:23:38,661 --> 00:23:40,561 in your own restaurant, with your own people around. 535 00:23:40,563 --> 00:23:42,263 Nobody saw nothing. 536 00:23:46,135 --> 00:23:48,402 Where was your boy when this happened? 537 00:23:48,404 --> 00:23:49,937 In the back. 538 00:23:49,939 --> 00:23:52,273 Who with? I don't know. 539 00:23:52,275 --> 00:23:56,343 (sighs) I gave you the benefit of the doubt once. 540 00:23:56,345 --> 00:23:58,312 You owe me the truth. 541 00:24:00,083 --> 00:24:03,784 I paid my debt to the State of New York. 542 00:24:03,786 --> 00:24:05,820 20 years. 543 00:24:05,822 --> 00:24:09,423 I gave it 20 years of my life. 544 00:24:09,425 --> 00:24:12,193 I don't owe anybody anything else. 545 00:24:12,195 --> 00:24:15,362 Not good enough. 546 00:24:15,364 --> 00:24:16,764 Start over. 547 00:24:18,801 --> 00:24:21,102 SANDI: That's Harry. 548 00:24:21,104 --> 00:24:22,937 With my late husband David. 549 00:24:22,939 --> 00:24:25,039 Two of them were thick as thieves. 550 00:24:25,041 --> 00:24:28,576 Drinking and gambling every night at the Old Bluff. 551 00:24:28,578 --> 00:24:30,544 Sandi, you said that you weren't friends with Harry, 552 00:24:30,546 --> 00:24:32,646 but he kept sending you money. 553 00:24:32,648 --> 00:24:33,647 Why? 554 00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:34,782 Oh, I don't know. 555 00:24:34,784 --> 00:24:36,016 Maybe he felt sorry for me 556 00:24:36,018 --> 00:24:38,219 because I had to raise my grandson on my own. 557 00:24:38,221 --> 00:24:40,755 The child has special needs. 558 00:24:40,757 --> 00:24:41,989 He's smart. 559 00:24:41,991 --> 00:24:45,259 And he was doing well in the program I sent him to. 560 00:24:45,261 --> 00:24:46,660 That school they had him in? 561 00:24:46,662 --> 00:24:49,029 Full of screamers and head bangers. 562 00:24:49,031 --> 00:24:51,198 How much was Harry sending? 563 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,334 Are you gonna tell the IRS? 564 00:24:53,336 --> 00:24:54,902 No. 565 00:24:54,904 --> 00:24:57,571 Never more than ten grand. 566 00:24:57,573 --> 00:24:59,573 Every few months. 567 00:24:59,575 --> 00:25:01,809 Now the program says David can't come back 568 00:25:01,811 --> 00:25:03,577 until I pay the next bill. 569 00:25:03,579 --> 00:25:05,646 Sandi, I hate to ask you this, 570 00:25:05,648 --> 00:25:08,983 but that's a lot of money for a guy that didn't have a job. 571 00:25:10,052 --> 00:25:11,685 Do you know anything about Harry's involvement 572 00:25:11,687 --> 00:25:13,154 in the Benny Trust heist? 573 00:25:15,057 --> 00:25:16,724 That's where my husband worked. 574 00:25:16,726 --> 00:25:19,560 What did he do there? 575 00:25:19,562 --> 00:25:21,862 He was a guard. 576 00:25:21,864 --> 00:25:24,999 The guard who got killed in the robbery? 577 00:25:25,001 --> 00:25:28,936 The bank got their money back from the insurance, 578 00:25:28,938 --> 00:25:31,405 and then went under before they paid our benefits 579 00:25:31,407 --> 00:25:32,973 like they promised. 580 00:25:32,975 --> 00:25:35,342 Harry was the only one looking out for us. 581 00:25:35,344 --> 00:25:37,578 Did you ever ask where he got the cash? 582 00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:38,679 No. 583 00:25:38,681 --> 00:25:41,382 But I knew something was eating him inside. 584 00:25:41,384 --> 00:25:43,017 And they always said 585 00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:45,419 the robbers must have had an inside tip. 586 00:25:45,421 --> 00:25:47,354 You think Harry was the conduit, 587 00:25:47,356 --> 00:25:49,423 because he was drinking buddies with your husband? 588 00:25:49,425 --> 00:25:51,192 He sure acted guilty around me. 589 00:25:51,194 --> 00:25:52,927 You think he got a cut afterward? 590 00:25:52,929 --> 00:25:54,728 I don't know. 591 00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:56,797 I needed the money. 592 00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,532 For my grandson. 593 00:25:59,602 --> 00:26:02,336 I guess you got a judgment about that, huh? 594 00:26:02,338 --> 00:26:05,372 I don't know what to think. 595 00:26:05,374 --> 00:26:08,642 So what happens now? 596 00:26:12,748 --> 00:26:13,681 Hey, Reagan. 597 00:26:13,683 --> 00:26:15,950 What the hell do you want? 598 00:26:15,952 --> 00:26:18,118 I heard you had my father here. 599 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,154 Yeah. Well, unless you got something new to offer 600 00:26:20,156 --> 00:26:21,689 that you held back on before, 601 00:26:21,691 --> 00:26:23,557 there's nothing you can do to help him now. 602 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:24,758 Wait. 603 00:26:26,362 --> 00:26:28,662 I think you're gonna want to hear this. 604 00:26:28,664 --> 00:26:32,099 Okay. 605 00:26:32,101 --> 00:26:33,734 Come on. 606 00:26:43,946 --> 00:26:46,080 (metallic click) 607 00:26:46,082 --> 00:26:47,281 Whew. 608 00:26:51,454 --> 00:26:54,288 We're good to go? 609 00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:55,789 GPS is working. 610 00:26:55,791 --> 00:26:57,691 We good with the warrant? Just in time. 611 00:26:57,693 --> 00:26:59,260 Judge says, "Kathy's her own worst enemy." 612 00:26:59,262 --> 00:27:01,095 If she wasn't pushing this-- 613 00:27:01,097 --> 00:27:03,063 a live video interview to drive up ratings-- 614 00:27:03,065 --> 00:27:06,800 we wouldn't have probable cause she was meeting with Jeffrey. 615 00:27:08,204 --> 00:27:10,271 There she is. 616 00:27:13,876 --> 00:27:15,743 Can't believe she's doing this. 617 00:27:15,745 --> 00:27:18,812 She was one of the best trial lawyers I ever worked with. 618 00:27:18,814 --> 00:27:21,882 One thing about Kathy, she was always more about 619 00:27:21,884 --> 00:27:24,051 the attention than the case. 620 00:27:25,221 --> 00:27:26,987 Let's go. 621 00:27:26,989 --> 00:27:28,656 Please, don't complain about the driving today. 622 00:27:28,658 --> 00:27:29,790 (engine starts) 623 00:27:32,862 --> 00:27:35,029 No promises. 624 00:27:37,066 --> 00:27:40,034 My father's the strongest man I know. 625 00:27:40,036 --> 00:27:41,969 I can never be like him. 626 00:27:41,971 --> 00:27:43,070 Okay. 627 00:27:43,072 --> 00:27:44,605 He did 20 years in state prison, 628 00:27:44,607 --> 00:27:46,040 and he never complained about the food. 629 00:27:46,042 --> 00:27:48,075 After being in the restaurant business. 630 00:27:49,545 --> 00:27:52,112 No, he... 631 00:27:52,114 --> 00:27:54,581 he deserves to have his life back. 632 00:27:54,583 --> 00:27:56,116 He only just met his granddaughter. 633 00:27:56,118 --> 00:27:59,553 I'm sure this is all going someplace. 634 00:27:59,555 --> 00:28:01,588 When Alex Kalamogdartis 635 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:03,624 came in the other night and started threatening him, 636 00:28:03,626 --> 00:28:04,959 I couldn't take it. 637 00:28:04,961 --> 00:28:07,361 So you're saying you were there during the argument. 638 00:28:07,363 --> 00:28:08,729 Yes, yes. 639 00:28:08,731 --> 00:28:09,863 I'm sorry that I lied before. 640 00:28:09,865 --> 00:28:11,632 Like I said, I'm not as strong as Papa. 641 00:28:11,634 --> 00:28:13,867 Okay, we've moved past that. 642 00:28:13,869 --> 00:28:17,104 So you heard Alex threaten your dad, then what did you do? 643 00:28:18,941 --> 00:28:20,975 I went, I went and I got my cousin's gun 644 00:28:20,977 --> 00:28:22,176 from under the cash register. 645 00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:23,877 And then what? 646 00:28:23,879 --> 00:28:26,914 And then I just started shooting. 647 00:28:28,684 --> 00:28:33,153 And shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting! 648 00:28:34,056 --> 00:28:35,556 After it was done, 649 00:28:35,558 --> 00:28:38,692 Papa took the gun and told me to keep my mouth shut. 650 00:28:39,495 --> 00:28:41,528 Okay. I did it. 651 00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:42,896 Yeah. 652 00:28:42,898 --> 00:28:45,733 I'm gonna need you to write that all down, okay? 653 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,539 My father's still got 654 00:28:52,541 --> 00:28:54,775 a few good years left. 655 00:28:54,777 --> 00:28:58,579 I can't let him go back to prison for something that I did. 656 00:29:05,654 --> 00:29:08,188 You want a lawyer? 657 00:29:08,190 --> 00:29:10,057 Now? Seriously? 658 00:29:10,059 --> 00:29:11,859 Yeah. It's my right. I didn't shoot the kid. 659 00:29:11,861 --> 00:29:13,427 You got no right to keep me here. 660 00:29:13,429 --> 00:29:14,695 You asked for me. 661 00:29:14,697 --> 00:29:16,563 And now you want a lawyer? 662 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,402 It's done. 663 00:29:21,404 --> 00:29:22,903 He confessed. 664 00:29:37,219 --> 00:29:39,053 (sighs) 665 00:29:39,055 --> 00:29:40,254 Full statement? 666 00:29:40,256 --> 00:29:42,956 Signed, sealed and delivered. 667 00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:44,224 Good work. 668 00:29:44,226 --> 00:29:45,325 Stavros... (speaks Greek) 669 00:29:45,327 --> 00:29:46,393 In English. 670 00:29:46,395 --> 00:29:48,796 Papa, I'm sorry. Don't do this. 671 00:29:48,798 --> 00:29:50,697 STAVROS: I already did. NICK: No, you didn't. 672 00:29:50,699 --> 00:29:52,332 I shot him, Papa. 673 00:29:52,334 --> 00:29:53,700 He didn't give me a choice. 674 00:29:53,702 --> 00:29:55,536 Take him down to Central Booking. 675 00:29:55,538 --> 00:29:56,870 Yes, sir. Come on. Wait a minute. 676 00:29:56,872 --> 00:29:58,338 Wait a minute! Wait a minute! 677 00:30:05,548 --> 00:30:07,714 (sighs) 678 00:30:11,787 --> 00:30:15,389 I don't think you're gonna let him do this, Nick. 679 00:30:15,391 --> 00:30:19,660 You're not a perfect man, but you love your family 680 00:30:19,662 --> 00:30:21,829 and you love your son. 681 00:30:28,037 --> 00:30:30,904 It's how it had to be, Frank. 682 00:30:30,906 --> 00:30:35,342 Otherwise, those people were never gonna let us be. 683 00:30:35,344 --> 00:30:37,511 Ready to make a statement? 684 00:30:37,513 --> 00:30:40,647 Yes, I am. 685 00:30:45,054 --> 00:30:47,888 We got the cuffs on the wrong man. 686 00:31:00,437 --> 00:31:02,704 ♪ ♪ 687 00:31:20,991 --> 00:31:22,691 Nice ride. Smart. 688 00:31:22,692 --> 00:31:24,946 Jeffrey knew we'd be looking for him 689 00:31:24,947 --> 00:31:27,481 at the airfields, so he's all set to get away by land. 690 00:31:27,483 --> 00:31:30,517 Well, I guess looking back, I could've seen the signs. 691 00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,020 Beth was always a little flighty. 692 00:31:33,022 --> 00:31:35,122 That was part of the energy that drew me to her. 693 00:31:35,124 --> 00:31:36,490 She started disappearing for 694 00:31:36,492 --> 00:31:38,158 longer and longer periods of time. 695 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,460 And then one night, she just didn't come back. 696 00:31:40,462 --> 00:31:41,728 (door opens) 697 00:31:42,431 --> 00:31:44,264 You two, sit down. 698 00:31:45,434 --> 00:31:46,967 And shut that off. 699 00:31:47,703 --> 00:31:50,304 On your feet, Doc. Come on. 700 00:31:50,306 --> 00:31:52,906 Come on! 701 00:31:52,908 --> 00:31:54,908 Looks like this interview is over, Kathy. 702 00:31:54,910 --> 00:31:57,177 Jeffrey Durning, we have a warrant for your arrest. 703 00:31:58,380 --> 00:31:59,413 Wait, this is all wrong. 704 00:31:59,415 --> 00:32:01,915 We also have a warrant for your arrest. 705 00:32:01,917 --> 00:32:03,417 For what? 706 00:32:03,419 --> 00:32:04,384 Hindering prosecution. 707 00:32:04,386 --> 00:32:06,186 You lied to us about where he was, 708 00:32:06,188 --> 00:32:07,888 and you're assisting a fugitive. 709 00:32:07,890 --> 00:32:09,289 Wait. 710 00:32:09,291 --> 00:32:10,991 There's something you need to see 711 00:32:10,993 --> 00:32:12,859 that changes this whole case. 712 00:32:12,861 --> 00:32:14,227 Oh, really? 713 00:32:16,065 --> 00:32:17,331 This... 714 00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:19,333 was taken in Caracas 715 00:32:19,335 --> 00:32:21,401 two days ago by a friend of Beth's. 716 00:32:22,404 --> 00:32:24,371 She's still alive. 717 00:32:31,146 --> 00:32:32,512 (groans) Hey. 718 00:32:32,514 --> 00:32:34,948 Hey. Put the brisket in the fridge. 719 00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:37,317 I got us a bottle of wine; we're in business. 720 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:38,285 Grandpa, 721 00:32:38,287 --> 00:32:40,654 do you remember the Benny Trust heist? 722 00:32:40,656 --> 00:32:42,122 Oh, sure I do. 723 00:32:42,124 --> 00:32:43,690 Happened when I was PC. 724 00:32:43,692 --> 00:32:45,692 We always heard that it was an inside job, 725 00:32:45,694 --> 00:32:47,260 but we could never prove it. 726 00:32:47,262 --> 00:32:49,429 Most of the thieves killed each other 727 00:32:49,431 --> 00:32:51,598 before they could spend the money. Why? 728 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,667 Just a hypothetical, but what if I told you 729 00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:56,069 that I found some of the money? 730 00:32:56,071 --> 00:32:57,604 I'd say forget the brisket, 731 00:32:57,606 --> 00:33:00,507 you're taking us to Peter Luger's for family dinner. 732 00:33:00,509 --> 00:33:01,908 (chuckles) 733 00:33:03,779 --> 00:33:06,513 Seriously, it's a closed case, isn't it? 734 00:33:06,515 --> 00:33:10,684 No, the term is "not an active investigation." 735 00:33:10,686 --> 00:33:12,419 Big difference. 736 00:33:14,456 --> 00:33:16,456 Let's just say a couple of partners 737 00:33:16,458 --> 00:33:19,059 stumble on a bundle of cash in a dead man's apartment. 738 00:33:19,061 --> 00:33:21,928 Well, if they take it for themselves, 739 00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:26,366 they're out of a job and maybe on their way to prison. 740 00:33:26,368 --> 00:33:29,069 Let's just say though that they've made all the right calls 741 00:33:29,071 --> 00:33:30,904 and turns out nobody's looking for that money, 742 00:33:30,906 --> 00:33:33,106 but it's clear that the dead guy 743 00:33:33,108 --> 00:33:35,809 wanted to leave it to somebody who really needed it. 744 00:33:35,811 --> 00:33:37,978 He died without leaving a will? 745 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:39,546 Yeah. 746 00:33:39,548 --> 00:33:41,848 Well, then it goes to the public administrator. 747 00:33:41,850 --> 00:33:44,418 What if they just don't find all of it? 748 00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:49,156 Well, then these partners have an interesting dilemma. 749 00:33:52,227 --> 00:33:54,861 A few years before the heist, 750 00:33:54,863 --> 00:33:57,631 I was up in the Bronx for the Big Blackout. 751 00:33:59,101 --> 00:34:00,867 The looting was insane. 752 00:34:00,869 --> 00:34:03,603 We were locking up people left, right and center. 753 00:34:03,605 --> 00:34:07,340 Someone had broken the front window 754 00:34:07,342 --> 00:34:11,445 of a store that charged the most ridiculous prices. 755 00:34:11,447 --> 00:34:15,649 I saw a lady my age, with three little kids, 756 00:34:15,651 --> 00:34:18,318 carrying out a bag full of diapers and groceries. 757 00:34:19,855 --> 00:34:23,023 I looked her straight in the eye... 758 00:34:23,025 --> 00:34:24,691 and I let her go. 759 00:34:24,693 --> 00:34:28,028 I made a judgment call. 760 00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:31,798 Every good cop's got to be able to make one. 761 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,035 Not that we're talking about anything real here. 762 00:34:43,746 --> 00:34:45,078 (video game beeping quietly) 763 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,480 You sure this is okay? 764 00:34:46,482 --> 00:34:48,815 The public administrators are already done. 765 00:34:48,817 --> 00:34:50,484 You're the closest thing to a family friend. 766 00:34:50,486 --> 00:34:52,519 We're just giving you a chance to pick out 767 00:34:52,521 --> 00:34:54,688 some clothes for Harry, for the funeral. 768 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:57,858 No one else is coming? 769 00:34:57,860 --> 00:34:59,926 He had no will, no heirs. 770 00:34:59,928 --> 00:35:02,062 Just the letter to you. 771 00:35:02,064 --> 00:35:03,497 So, we'll give you an hour. 772 00:35:03,499 --> 00:35:05,298 Whatever you leave behind goes to the landlady 773 00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:07,868 or the-the clean-out company. 774 00:35:08,704 --> 00:35:10,370 Just... 775 00:35:10,372 --> 00:35:13,907 make sure you look everywhere-- the cupboards, the closets... 776 00:35:15,043 --> 00:35:17,978 ...under the bed. 777 00:35:31,093 --> 00:35:32,859 I'm still not sure about this. 778 00:35:32,861 --> 00:35:34,561 Public administrators got most of the cash 779 00:35:34,563 --> 00:35:35,896 that was just lying around. 780 00:35:35,898 --> 00:35:36,930 We both know there's more. 781 00:35:36,932 --> 00:35:38,932 And no one's looking for it. 782 00:35:38,934 --> 00:35:40,867 Sandi needs that money to keep her grandson 783 00:35:40,869 --> 00:35:42,102 in that special school. 784 00:35:42,104 --> 00:35:44,938 Just doesn't feel right. 785 00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:47,474 What if someone starts asking questions later? 786 00:35:47,476 --> 00:35:51,845 Guess you'll have to decide if you're gonna rat me out. 787 00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:02,589 I can't believe you had me arrested on felony charges. 788 00:36:02,591 --> 00:36:04,324 Well, you knew where Jeffrey Durning was 789 00:36:04,326 --> 00:36:06,760 and you chose to mislead us and protect him. 790 00:36:06,762 --> 00:36:08,829 The flaw in your argument 791 00:36:08,831 --> 00:36:10,530 is that there is no underlying crime. 792 00:36:10,532 --> 00:36:11,965 Really? 793 00:36:11,967 --> 00:36:13,733 I've given you proof. 794 00:36:13,735 --> 00:36:16,303 You mean that picture from Venezuela? 795 00:36:16,305 --> 00:36:18,905 It kind of blows the whole case out of the water, Anthony, 796 00:36:18,907 --> 00:36:20,640 doesn't it? One little problem. 797 00:36:20,642 --> 00:36:23,410 I just got off the phone with the guy in the photo. 798 00:36:23,412 --> 00:36:25,378 He's five-foot-six. 799 00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:27,214 Beth was five-foot-ten. 800 00:36:27,216 --> 00:36:30,383 And in the photo, she's looking up at him. 801 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,720 How's a woman who's four inches taller 802 00:36:33,722 --> 00:36:35,622 appearing shorter? 803 00:36:39,461 --> 00:36:41,261 Obviously, it would be tough. 804 00:36:41,263 --> 00:36:42,996 I'd say. 805 00:36:42,998 --> 00:36:44,164 Doesn't mean I'm wrong about everything. 806 00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:45,999 You're just trying to neutralize me 807 00:36:46,001 --> 00:36:47,901 because you're afraid the former prosecutor 808 00:36:47,903 --> 00:36:49,870 is gonna make Jeffrey's defense a slam dunk. 809 00:36:49,872 --> 00:36:52,706 What about all the witnesses Jeffrey intimidated? 810 00:36:52,708 --> 00:36:54,708 Their stories didn't hold up. 811 00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:57,344 Then why did Jeffrey go to Mindy's apartment the other day 812 00:36:57,346 --> 00:36:58,578 and threaten her? 813 00:37:02,384 --> 00:37:05,018 He's worried the truth will come out. 814 00:37:06,889 --> 00:37:08,955 I had no idea he'd done this. 815 00:37:08,957 --> 00:37:12,559 You let your ego get ahead of the facts in this case, 816 00:37:12,561 --> 00:37:15,362 and you've been poisoning the jury pool with your podcast. 817 00:37:15,364 --> 00:37:17,764 I thought I had a subject who was innocent. 818 00:37:17,766 --> 00:37:19,032 Is it safe to say 819 00:37:19,034 --> 00:37:21,167 that you could've handled things differently? 820 00:37:23,972 --> 00:37:27,140 I'll give you what I have on Jeffrey from my files. 821 00:37:35,317 --> 00:37:37,417 Bless us, oh Lord, in these thy gifts, 822 00:37:37,419 --> 00:37:39,586 which we are about to receive from thy bounty 823 00:37:39,588 --> 00:37:41,388 through Christ our Lord. Amen. 824 00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:42,822 ALL: Amen. 825 00:37:42,824 --> 00:37:44,491 Ah, the prodigal son. 826 00:37:44,493 --> 00:37:46,126 Better late than never. 827 00:37:46,128 --> 00:37:47,227 What took you? 828 00:37:47,229 --> 00:37:48,962 I texted Erin I was running a little behind. 829 00:37:48,964 --> 00:37:49,963 He did. 830 00:37:49,965 --> 00:37:51,865 Where were you? 831 00:37:51,867 --> 00:37:53,033 Uh, funeral. 832 00:37:53,035 --> 00:37:54,601 Whose? 833 00:37:54,603 --> 00:37:55,702 Just a guy. 834 00:37:55,704 --> 00:37:57,504 You know him well? 835 00:37:57,506 --> 00:37:58,672 Uh, no. 836 00:37:58,674 --> 00:38:00,173 Actually didn't know him at all. 837 00:38:00,175 --> 00:38:01,608 Turns out, nobody really did. 838 00:38:01,610 --> 00:38:03,076 What's that mean? 839 00:38:03,078 --> 00:38:04,778 Means he barely came out of his house 840 00:38:04,780 --> 00:38:07,080 or spoke to anyone for 25 years, and passed away 841 00:38:07,082 --> 00:38:08,782 without anyone really wondering where he went. 842 00:38:08,784 --> 00:38:10,650 That may be one of the saddest things I've ever heard. 843 00:38:10,652 --> 00:38:12,218 How deep did you dig? 844 00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:13,453 Didn't really dig, actually. 845 00:38:13,455 --> 00:38:16,222 Just a few days sitting with his stuff and waiting for 846 00:38:16,224 --> 00:38:17,891 the public administrators to show. 847 00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:20,460 Did he have something to hide, something he was hiding from? 848 00:38:20,462 --> 00:38:21,661 No record. 849 00:38:21,663 --> 00:38:24,230 At least not under any of the names that we had. 850 00:38:24,232 --> 00:38:26,166 Well, maybe he never got caught; couldn't forgive himself. 851 00:38:26,168 --> 00:38:27,767 LINDA: Any more of this, 852 00:38:27,769 --> 00:38:29,970 and I'm gonna have to go back to church 853 00:38:29,972 --> 00:38:31,805 and pray for his poor soul. Right? 854 00:38:31,807 --> 00:38:33,373 So you actually went to the funeral 855 00:38:33,375 --> 00:38:34,774 for someone you never met? 856 00:38:35,644 --> 00:38:36,977 Yeah. 857 00:38:36,979 --> 00:38:39,145 Ever done that before? 858 00:38:39,147 --> 00:38:41,314 Nope. Just felt like I should. 859 00:38:41,316 --> 00:38:42,449 That's it? 860 00:38:45,754 --> 00:38:48,388 Yeah, kind of hard to explain. 861 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:50,357 At least for me it is. 862 00:38:52,394 --> 00:38:54,761 Wow, you give this family half an opportunity, 863 00:38:54,763 --> 00:38:57,097 and the questions just don't stop. 864 00:38:57,099 --> 00:38:58,999 Sorry I brought it up. 865 00:38:59,835 --> 00:39:02,902 Nicky, boys, 866 00:39:02,904 --> 00:39:05,839 you hear a lot of harsh stories at this table. 867 00:39:05,841 --> 00:39:07,107 I don't think they're harsh. 868 00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:08,575 Cool, maybe. 869 00:39:08,577 --> 00:39:09,943 Okay, ear of the beholder. 870 00:39:09,945 --> 00:39:12,912 But if there's one thing you need to take away 871 00:39:12,914 --> 00:39:15,515 from this table, I hope it's that you don't have to be 872 00:39:15,517 --> 00:39:18,284 Jamie's age, or Danny's or Erin's 873 00:39:18,286 --> 00:39:20,253 or mine or Pop's for that matter, 874 00:39:20,255 --> 00:39:23,523 to learn to show some grace where it's needed. 875 00:39:23,525 --> 00:39:26,593 To save some grace for strangers even, 876 00:39:26,595 --> 00:39:30,163 who find themselves without family or friends. 877 00:39:30,165 --> 00:39:33,800 Or whatever reason got them there. 878 00:39:34,636 --> 00:39:36,603 Will do. Me, too. 879 00:39:36,605 --> 00:39:38,171 I'll try. 880 00:39:39,307 --> 00:39:43,009 I'd like to think the reward is in the attempt. 881 00:39:43,011 --> 00:39:44,644 Well, the good news is, 882 00:39:44,646 --> 00:39:47,247 none of us is ever gonna end up alone. 883 00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:52,385 Not while another one of us is still standing. 884 00:39:53,755 --> 00:39:55,555 And again, amen. 885 00:40:03,745 --> 00:40:10,245 == sync, corrected by elderman == @elder_man 63290

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