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(Native chanting)
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(Native chanting)
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- All right, you'll be all right.
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My grandfather, too, he would tell the same story,
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in that same area.
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There was a horse, like a horse man.
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So, there definitely is that creature out there.
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So, they say these things can turn into wolves.
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They turn into, you know, different creatures.
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Cougars or whatever.
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Whatever's available.
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- My name is Tony Merkel.
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Host of The Confessionals Podcast.
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I've interviewed over 500 witnesses
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to the strange and unexplained.
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Last year, I assembled a team of like-minded guys
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to come with me on a quest to document,
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and even possibly experience,
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some of these mysterious phenomena for ourselves.
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- We started getting lights out here over the ridge.
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- Here they come again.
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- Here they come again.
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- That gray container
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was right here. - Correct.
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- Look left, look left.
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- Up there?
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- They'll come from the west in the sky.
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- So it's old news?
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- It's old news, yeah.
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- This kind of stuff is connected in some way.
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- What if those guys, whoever was, that was a decoy.
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- God created everything, including these UFOs.
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Including all this phenomena.
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God created it all.
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- [Tony] In the summer of 2022,
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the team got a chance at a trip of a lifetime
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when a show guest, named
Ryan, invited us to his property
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called Space Wolf Research.
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Located in Utah's Uintah Basin,
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at the very doorstep of the infamous Sherman Ranch,
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Space Wolf had already produced multiple reports
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and evidence of strange happenings.
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From skin walkers to UFOs.
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- [Ryan] It's very interesting how I got into an area
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that ended up being so restricted and locked down
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later on, because it was so open back then.
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But I had
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succumbed to an injury.
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I was a fishing guide.
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I was driving around, I couldn't work or get my foot wet,
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so I was driving around doing stuff.
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I was coming down that road.
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Something was coming down through there.
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And I was like, "Ah, it looks like an elderly,
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an elderly Native American."
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I couldn't tell if it was a he or a she really.
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Had a blanket over their head,
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and came towards the truck.
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And I rolled down the window and said,
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"Hey, you want to get in?"
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"Need a ride somewhere?"
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They kind of mumbled something
and just kind of grumbled in.
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Jumped up into the truck.
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And, within seconds, I was just in tears.
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I didn't know what was going on.
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My reality just totally changed.
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The Bureau of Indian Affairs found me
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near Bottle Hollow Reservoir,
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and I was just kind of hanging
outta my truck catatonic.
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They thought I was drunk.
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Did all the tests, they realized I wasn't.
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And, asked me what happened.
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And, when I told them, they explained to me
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that I had been nabbed by the skin walker.
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And that's the first time I'd ever heard that.
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- [Tony] Seeking answers after his own encounter,
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Ryan would purchase property
bordering the Sherman Ranch
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in an attempt to create what he would refer to
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as a safe haven of sorts for the phenomena.
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No guns.
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No threats.
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So, Ryan wants to create
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a safe haven for all the activity in the area.
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So, you know, if this stuff is conscious,
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and it's bobbing, and weaving,
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and ducking behind bushes or whatever
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trying to avoid human contact,
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well, he wants to create an
environment on his properties
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where it's just like a place where, consciously,
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it's known to be a safe place
where nothing's gonna happen.
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You're not gonna get shot at kind of thing.
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So, whether it's Bigfoot, shadow entities,
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aliens, UFOs, portals,
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they're welcome on his property.
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And so, he has a no gun policy.
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He doesn't want anybody having guns on the property.
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Since episode 202, I've
become pretty friendly with Ryan,
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and I just, I respect him.
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So, we're gonna follow his orders and his wishes,
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and we're gonna do this
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gun free.
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So, it's gonna be interesting.
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Hopefully, nothing too crazy happens
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that we can't handle with a hatchet, but we'll see.
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- So, show us the picture that we got.
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- Oh, yeah.
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Apparently, Christian's already there.
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And, when they got to the ranch,
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one of the shipping
containers that's on the property
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was picked up and moved.
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But there was no drag marks when it was moved.
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And there was no tire tracks, nothing around.
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It was just mysteriously moved.
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So, this is the picture that was sent, right here.
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- Oh, I got it, I got it.
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- That's the picture right there, which is nuts.
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And you can tell there's no drag marks, like it was slid.
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It was just picked up in the
middle of the night and moved.
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There was nothing on the property.
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So,
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yeah, this is what we're walking into.
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Teleporting shipping containers,
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and we haven't even got there yet.
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So, I feel like we're on track to
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see some wild stuff, I can tell you that.
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- I appreciate your time.
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- Oh, thank you.
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Yeah, no problem.
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No problem, it's part of my duty here.
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- Yeah. - You know, I'm security.
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- Right?
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- So, anything that happens out here,
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I'm supposed to be on top of it.
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- [Ryan] I am absolutely baffled
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with how a 9,000 pound container is
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moved,
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not so much as a blade of grass disturbed.
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- Because there's no-
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It looks like it was picked up and moved.
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There's no scraping.
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- Wasn't it by the building?
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Right by the building?
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- Yeah, it was next to the building,
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and now it's the other way.
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- It's turned, isn't it turned?
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- It's completely turned as if it was lifted.
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- I just noticed that.
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I've never seen it out there like that.
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- But I came out here and I go, "Oh."
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- That gray container
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was right here.
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- Correct.
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- And there's no skid marks it's been skid by, right?
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- That end right there was right there.
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- I mean, a couple years before, there was a 40 foot RV,
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almost exactly where the
container was that was vaporized
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by what was, apparently, a daytime lightning bolt.
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- Well, we have pictures of the lightning strike.
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Ryan has them, I got 'em too.
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And they estimated that a 12 foot bolt
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hit the trailer and melted it.
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- The lightning was getting kind of close,
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and I told my husband, "We better go in the house."
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"That's getting pretty close."
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And then, boom, it hit right across the street.
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And we called the fire department.
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And it was melted down, that
whole trailer, within seconds.
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- This
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went like this.
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- So, it had to be lifted up.
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Because there's no... But wait.
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Here's the only, here's a little bit of evidence.
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It wasn't lifted that high, 'cause it caught this rock.
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Look, it caught that rock,
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and it caught this one.
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It caught those three.
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It caught those rocks and moved them.
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But
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it had to be up high.
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- What would it take to melt metal into rock?
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I mean, would a lightning bolt do that?
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- [Joseph] All right, so,
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we've been here, on location, for,
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I don't know, like six hours.
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You're gonna freak out when you get here.
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There's some stuff that's
totally unexplainable already.
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- Really?
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- [Joseph] That we, yeah, we've had some of the neighbors,
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they told us stuff that's gonna blow your mind.
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Let me hear you, let me tell you this.
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This is some of the words that we were told.
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Giant redheaded cannibals.
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- Giant redheaded, what? - What?
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Whoo!
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- Hold on a second.
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Giant redheaded, what?
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- Let's go, baby!
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- [Joseph] And one of the,
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Johnny, Native American Indian
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that we've been hanging out with here,
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told us about the giant redheaded cannibals.
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You'll learn more about that.
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Water babies that are evil.
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- Yeah.
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- [Joseph] And, what do you call 'em?
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Star people?
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The star people that fly.
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- Let's go!
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Oh, let's go!
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Well, I'm just trying to find some gas
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before we run out of gas.
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Nothing major to see here.
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- Where are we, Tony?
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- I honestly don't know.
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Kansas, I believe.
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- This is WaKeeny.
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- WaKeeny?
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- This is downtown WaKeeny.
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- Downtown WaKeeny is closed.
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- How we doing?
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- Oh, fantastic.
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Oh.
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- Yeah? - Fantastic.
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- We'll be killed by a serial serial killer
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before we even get there.
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- Yeah.
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- Geez, we're not worried about the skin walkers,
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we're worried about,
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we're worried about getting picked up in WaKeeny by,
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by the guy from, so you think,
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so I Know What You Did Last Summer, you know?
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- WaKeeny looks like a
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waste, like, there's nothing going on here.
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I've never seen this empty of a town.
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- It's what the WaKeeny Whacker wants you to think.
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- [Tony] With Christian and Joseph
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already reporting sightings,
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we raced through the night to get there.
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As the rest of the crew continued our 30 hour drive,
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they settled in for their first night
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at Space Wolf Research.
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But, as we've always heard,
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when the sun goes down, the land comes alive.
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- I came out here to produce a movie.
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I didn't plan on being in a movie.
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I've seen these shows.
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I'm a filmmaker.
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But, when you have a real experience, like when we,
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when we were looking through the binoculars
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and you shot that film
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through your
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iPhone,
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and then, you blew it up.
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I dunno what that was flying through.
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But then, last night,
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last night was, that was it, man.
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I don't, I just, I don't-
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Listen, if he doesn't want to pay, I don't know.
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I need some coffee though, maybe I'll feel different.
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But, last night,
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that was, there was a constant,
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it wasn't a hum, it was more like a rolling growl.
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Like a-
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It was like if the valley was snoring.
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It just kept going and going.
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So much so, that I got outta my tent
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and I went and I slept in my truck.
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- [Tony] Arriving in Utah,
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we knew we would be walking
into a very active situation.
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Not only had Christian and
Joseph had a rough first night,
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but according to locals, the last few days
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had seen a spike in activity on the property.
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Finally pulling into our campsite at Space Wolf,
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we all felt heaviness and a surreal realization
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that we stood on the doorstep of one of the most
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infamous hubs of high strangeness in the world.
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- Well, the first thing we did
when we got here is we set up
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looking out at the mesa there,
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the binoculars
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on a tripod.
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And we were just hanging out looking.
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And I saw,
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and you'll see, right across here, is
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some big solar panels.
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But, from here, at first, it looked like a truck.
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And then, there's a big tower-
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And, what we figured out is, at night,
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it solar panels that charge the light.
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And so, at night there's a
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red light and a white light.
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And the white light turns, it blinks.
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I think it's so, maybe, some planes don't hit the mesa.
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Or I don't know.
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But we've then, then Christian and I were just like,
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"Let's see if we can hold our camera
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up to the lens
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of the binoculars.
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And he started shooting.
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And then, I said, "Did you get that?"
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And an object went down, over, and straight up.
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We only got the part of it crossing the,
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crossing the frame.
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Here, I'll show you.
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What you're seeing right now is,
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this is the binocular circle,
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and then the camera pushed up against it, all right?
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- Okay. - Now,
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there's, that's what I'm focusing on.
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That's the solar panels with the lights.
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- Okay. - Right?
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And, again, we were just like,
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"Let's see what this place is like, I have no idea."
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And, now watch this area right around here.
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- Oh, shoot, sorry.
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- I saw it. - Oh wow.
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- Now, we slow it down.
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- Huh.
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- Wow. - Wow.
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- Now we slow it down again and he pulls in on it.
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- Wow, what is that?
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Yeah, watch compared to that tree,
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that whole tree right there.
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- Yeah.
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- It's pretty big.
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- Yeah. - Yeah.
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- Wow. - Wow.
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- Is it looking almost like it's cloaking too.
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- But then, once it left frame, it went-
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And then, I couldn't see it anymore.
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- And you saw it with your naked eye?
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- I saw it with a naked guy.
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He was holding his camera, that's your camera.
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He was holding it there.
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And, you know, he, you see how
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he's trying to get it to like,
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and we were just trying to get to see what this was.
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To get video of this.
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And I went, "Whoa, did you see that?"
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And, he goes, "What?"
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And he looked back, 'cause he knew something was there.
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But I'm like, "It just went through and then up."
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- Wow.
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You know, and,
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just a slightly different angle down lower,
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we would've not been able to catch that on camera.
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- Right.
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- [Tony] Primed to expect the UFO activity
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after seeing what Christian
and Joseph had captured,
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we decided to take a quick hike of the property
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before it got dark.
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As it would turn out, Space Wolf had something
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altogether different waiting for us.
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- We've been looking at this track way,
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and these are
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what we're seeing here.
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This is obviously footprints going down this way.
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This is one that we have,
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we feel like has toes involved in it.
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And, as it goes down here,
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my personal thought is
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it's almost as if somebody
was standing here in the side
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waiting to make sure it's all good.
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Like, they were standing this way looking,
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and then they turned and started going down this way.
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And, as they went down, so like this foot here.
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And then, you come out here and it's like one,
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two.
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And then, as we go here,
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now, the footprints, these longer footprints,
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are over, they're done.
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And, now, we have these hoofs
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that develop into the ground here.
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And, as it goes all the way down here,
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we've been able to track it
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all the way to the fence.
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And almost like it jumped the fence, then,
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and went through the mound
on the other side of the fence.
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- Before any of the other stuff popped off,
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that was the first interaction that we had,
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that we knew that we were on
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some weird, weird stuff.
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- What do you guys make of the burns?
383
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- Well, see, that's the weird thing, right?
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Like, you're thinking maybe lightning,
385
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but it's just burned all the way down.
386
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- There's another tree over there.
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- And it's burnt as well?
388
00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,793
Oh, man.
389
00:17:00,510 --> 00:17:03,438
- The lightning along the path is weird.
390
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- It's all over it.
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The whole path.
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The one thing I will say, is there's no, like,
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when lightning hits, it explodes the trees.
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And there's no like exploded burned trees.
395
00:17:13,003 --> 00:17:15,168
- Right, it's just like touched and burned.
396
00:17:15,210 --> 00:17:17,417
- Do you think there could
be that many lightning strikes?
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Like, this close together?
398
00:17:19,803 --> 00:17:23,013
- Yeah, but it's like it's cut with a burn.
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Like this is burned through and through.
400
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- Going into a chauffeur?
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- That's the poster.
402
00:17:36,237 --> 00:17:37,070
- Out here,
403
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there's all these prints that went over
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the mound here.
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And, it's just a theory, but that, we found,
406
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we followed the tracks coming over to this way.
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And it was like something jumped over the fence,
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and then went over that.
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What doesn't make sense is, if it's an animal,
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to me, I would think an animal would go around it.
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I don't know why an animal would go over it.
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So, when we came out here, the whole crew agreed
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we wanted to really take
the experiential narrative of
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the Native American people
that had lived in this area
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for generations and put it front and center,
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rather than doing the
typical paranormal show thing,
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00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:13,998
with EMF meters
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and trying to prove something scientifically.
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We thought the continued
experience of these people
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was at least as much proof as any amount of
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scientific data we could have gathered.
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00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,848
Bow Standing Rock and
Johnny Gamiochipi were the two
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tribal members that spent the most time with us.
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And, when we found this set of tracks,
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we were careful to ask each of them
426
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to look at it independently,
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so that one couldn't unintentionally sway the other.
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00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:39,228
- So, before we get down in here, and tell you,
429
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:42,228
and show you what we found,
430
00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:44,268
can you just tell me a little bit
431
00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:45,648
how you feel about this area?
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00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:48,486
Because, I know up there you said it kind of felt heavy.
433
00:18:48,528 --> 00:18:50,688
- Yeah, just more heavier.
434
00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:52,841
I think the more closer we get to around this area,
435
00:18:52,883 --> 00:18:54,798
I think I just get more nervous.
436
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,418
- Because of the drill?
437
00:18:56,460 --> 00:18:57,251
- Something, yeah.
438
00:18:57,293 --> 00:18:58,548
- Okay. - I don't know.
439
00:18:58,590 --> 00:19:02,778
- So, right down this trail
is where the series of prints
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start, that Joel and Ward found.
441
00:19:06,968 --> 00:19:08,778
And so, we're gonna show you this,
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00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:10,455
and then we're gonna come down here
443
00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:12,678
and I'm gonna show you what we found
444
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,657
with these tree branches that seems pretty bizarre.
445
00:19:16,699 --> 00:19:17,973
- All right.
446
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,010
- But you're gonna see more of this scorched.
447
00:19:23,970 --> 00:19:24,803
- Yeah.
448
00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:27,363
That's interesting.
449
00:19:29,370 --> 00:19:30,408
- Look at these prints here.
450
00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:31,743
This is crazy, right?
451
00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:35,568
- And as you go through here,
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they're deep flat.
453
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And, look, right here.
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- Oh, man.
455
00:19:52,397 --> 00:19:54,033
- Let's see.
456
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Right here it changes.
457
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He's going this way.
458
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- We think so.
459
00:20:02,430 --> 00:20:03,530
- He's going this way.
460
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,273
- Wow.
461
00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:11,558
- So, it-
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Do you see what we're looking at here?
463
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As far as like, that it-
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We want you to kind of give us your perspective,
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'cause we don't wanna be
making something out of nothing.
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- This is what I noticed.
467
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It's what we're casting tomorrow.
468
00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:33,303
- Like, you could see how these,
469
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like, this one to me looks like a hoof almost.
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Like, almost like a horse or something.
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- It does.
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- And then, there's the canine.
473
00:20:41,910 --> 00:20:44,823
- Th canine one's over there and it keeps going.
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The left side, I think, is different than the right.
475
00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:52,338
- Where, can you show me what you're pointing at?
476
00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:56,223
- So, it has this step and that step, and it's a step there.
477
00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:00,138
- But it's weird, though, how the
478
00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:02,838
almost humanoid prints disappeared though.
479
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,671
- Yeah.
480
00:21:03,713 --> 00:21:05,808
- They don't exist anymore in this range.
481
00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:07,143
- Around that area.
482
00:21:08,933 --> 00:21:10,968
As soon as it kind of gets into the clearing, you know?
483
00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:12,004
- Right.
484
00:21:12,046 --> 00:21:13,848
- As soon as it comes out of the brush.
485
00:21:13,890 --> 00:21:15,123
Then it gets into these.
486
00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,948
Like, it's hidden, where you can't see it,
487
00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:21,018
even if you're over here, right there.
488
00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:22,998
But, as soon as it comes out,
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you don't see a person walking, you see a, whatever it is.
490
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,593
- Right.
491
00:21:32,730 --> 00:21:35,501
- That, though, I don't know.
492
00:21:35,543 --> 00:21:37,038
- What do you, what do you, I mean like-
493
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,738
- Transfer, this change like you were telling me.
494
00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:41,418
I knew exactly what you're talking about,
495
00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:43,218
'cause we've seen things
496
00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:44,398
similar to that before.
497
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,348
- Yeah? - Yeah.
498
00:21:45,390 --> 00:21:48,528
- Like, it stops there, and then it gradually,
499
00:21:48,570 --> 00:21:52,968
as soon as it hits that point,
and then it comes into these.
500
00:21:53,010 --> 00:21:54,260
- Have you ever heard of-
501
00:21:56,850 --> 00:21:58,700
Have you ever heard of shape shifters
502
00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:03,408
transforming into horses?
503
00:22:03,450 --> 00:22:04,488
- Yeah, tons of things.
504
00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:05,535
- So it's just-
505
00:22:05,577 --> 00:22:06,558
- Birds. - Just pretty much anything?
506
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,200
Any kind of animal it'd want to?
507
00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:12,603
- Now, you said that
508
00:22:12,645 --> 00:22:15,798
shape shifters can turn into horses.
509
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,673
- Yeah.
510
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,698
- We've been finding what seems to be
511
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:22,578
a lot of horse manure all over the place here.
512
00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:24,168
- And you hardly see horses around here.
513
00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:25,551
- We haven't seen one horse. - Exactly.
514
00:22:25,593 --> 00:22:27,353
- And, actually,
515
00:22:27,395 --> 00:22:29,538
there's a fresh pile next to the tree
516
00:22:29,580 --> 00:22:31,098
that we just came in by,
517
00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:33,468
and I just don't know if it's horse manure or not.
518
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:35,538
But, like, it looks,
519
00:22:35,580 --> 00:22:37,254
I'm not touching it with my hands.
520
00:22:37,296 --> 00:22:40,578
But it looks fresh, and it
wasn't there just the other day.
521
00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:44,778
- Like, going back to my history, my family history,
522
00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:47,110
my grandfather would transform into
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many different things.
524
00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:50,050
Whatever the
525
00:22:51,210 --> 00:22:53,028
circumstance that he needed.
526
00:22:53,070 --> 00:22:56,568
You know, sometimes he would
transform into a fox, coyote.
527
00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:57,858
You know, a horse.
528
00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,948
- So, like, as people who aren't from here and stuff,
529
00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:03,408
I mean, we're not making a stretch or a leap here
530
00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:04,998
by just by seeing that?
531
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,873
Obviously,
532
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,078
you know, we're out here looking for shape shifter.
533
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,508
But, I mean, to come across that just,
534
00:23:11,550 --> 00:23:13,368
where'd the human prints go?
535
00:23:13,410 --> 00:23:15,569
And where'd this horse pop up out of nowhere?
536
00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:16,893
- Yeah.
537
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:19,758
Well, you can look at it like this.
538
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,633
You know,
539
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,723
why would these guys be out
here doing this stuff, you know?
540
00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:29,181
It's just like,
541
00:23:30,342 --> 00:23:31,548
that's what I see.
542
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:33,348
They transform, that's what they do.
543
00:23:33,390 --> 00:23:35,343
They come out to places like this.
544
00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:37,893
And I mean-
545
00:23:38,993 --> 00:23:40,728
I even, I don't like to talk about it too much,
546
00:23:40,770 --> 00:23:42,918
'cause it sounds like it's really ridiculous.
547
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,751
But that's what they do.
548
00:23:43,793 --> 00:23:47,050
They transform themselves
into whatever entity, the animal
549
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,997
that they're trying to embody.
550
00:23:53,504 --> 00:23:55,368
- And there's a lot of stories of
551
00:23:55,410 --> 00:23:57,528
the Native Americans who used to
552
00:23:57,570 --> 00:24:00,048
transform into those things would become birds and
553
00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:01,488
fly over the forts and stuff.
554
00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:03,550
And, you know, scout out
555
00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:09,078
viewpoints and reference
points for their tribal usage,
556
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:09,953
so they could,
557
00:24:10,995 --> 00:24:14,628
you know, easily maneuver
around those kinds of areas.
558
00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:17,448
- So, that's, it's not ridiculous because
559
00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:20,058
why are these transformation points out here?
560
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,198
You know, people run across them all the time.
561
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,142
A lot of people don't know what they are, you know?
562
00:24:24,184 --> 00:24:27,051
But that's what they're doing here.
563
00:24:27,093 --> 00:24:29,328
You know, we've had 'em like right near our homes.
564
00:24:29,370 --> 00:24:32,358
Like tribal members have
seen these transformations.
565
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,658
You know, have stumbled upon
'em out in the bush somewhere.
566
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:38,328
So, we know these things take place.
567
00:24:38,370 --> 00:24:39,648
We don't talk about 'em.
568
00:24:39,690 --> 00:24:42,228
And when we do, more times than not,
569
00:24:42,270 --> 00:24:45,378
people think we're crazy, you know, crazy Indians.
570
00:24:45,420 --> 00:24:47,898
But that's what occurs here is these things.
571
00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:50,268
And, now, you get to see some of the things.
572
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:52,848
But, yeah, that would be one of the signs
573
00:24:52,890 --> 00:24:56,223
that you would look for, is
something transformational.
574
00:24:57,660 --> 00:24:59,478
- [Tony] Finding a track way like this so early
575
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,218
was really unexpected.
576
00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:03,378
But having both Bow and Johnny sharing
577
00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:05,508
very similar perspectives really gave it
578
00:25:05,550 --> 00:25:07,728
a lot more credibility in our mind.
579
00:25:07,770 --> 00:25:09,678
Especially given that, a day prior,
580
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,138
Christian and Joseph had interviewed a neighbor
581
00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:13,338
that actually reported watching
582
00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:16,428
an entity of some sort enter the property.
583
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:20,073
- Have you had any weird, seen weird things or-
584
00:25:20,115 --> 00:25:20,906
- I have.
585
00:25:20,948 --> 00:25:23,088
I never used to believe in
what they call skin walkers.
586
00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:25,488
And, just right down the hill,
587
00:25:25,530 --> 00:25:26,478
I was coming the other direction,
588
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,558
you know where it comes up to the,
589
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,950
almost the top of the hill?
590
00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:32,298
There come this big wolf with legs this long,
591
00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:33,288
and it was pure black.
592
00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:35,328
And, its eyes, I can't describe as anything
593
00:25:35,370 --> 00:25:37,488
except for like light in a light bulb,
594
00:25:37,530 --> 00:25:38,321
but it was more like heat.
595
00:25:38,363 --> 00:25:39,558
It didn't have pupils or anything.
596
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,658
And it just wanted me to see it.
597
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:43,458
And, you know, I mean it was looking at me the whole time,
598
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,018
and it wasn't even really touching the ground.
599
00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:47,745
But yet it was walking, and it's so hard to describe it.
600
00:25:47,787 --> 00:25:49,725
And it gives me chills too just to talk about it.
601
00:25:49,767 --> 00:25:52,068
But it wasn't a scary thing to me.
602
00:25:52,110 --> 00:25:53,838
And, it did, it just wanted me to see it.
603
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,008
It kept looking at me,
604
00:25:55,050 --> 00:25:56,638
and then it just disappeared across the road.
605
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,388
And I was like, "Wow, that is strange."
606
00:25:59,430 --> 00:26:00,468
And now I have a little bit
607
00:26:00,510 --> 00:26:01,878
more open mind for stuff like that.
608
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,018
- Have you seen-
609
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,268
Is that the only time you've ever seen a wolf out here?
610
00:26:05,310 --> 00:26:06,108
- Yeah.
611
00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:07,635
That's the only time I've ever seen anything like that.
612
00:26:07,677 --> 00:26:09,198
And I honestly didn't believe anybody.
613
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,028
I would take a lie detector test about that,
614
00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:13,143
because, I mean, I did see it.
615
00:26:14,187 --> 00:26:15,198
And I never believed stuff like that.
616
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,398
- Did you see any wild animals out here,
617
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,508
or anything like that?
618
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:18,640
- No, just
619
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:21,953
there's a lot of noise out here.
620
00:26:21,995 --> 00:26:23,054
I mean, all night long.
621
00:26:23,096 --> 00:26:24,518
- There are strange noises.
622
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,848
- It not-
623
00:26:25,890 --> 00:26:27,528
With the oil fields and everything else,
624
00:26:27,570 --> 00:26:30,753
and the traffic now from the oil fields,
625
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:35,598
I know pretty much what I'm hearing from around here.
626
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,928
But, inside of this house, just right here,
627
00:26:38,970 --> 00:26:41,118
you're always hearing somebody outside.
628
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,578
I mean, if it's walking in the gravel,
629
00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:45,820
or just
630
00:26:47,130 --> 00:26:48,888
out in my yard.
631
00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:49,721
- There's never anything there.
632
00:26:49,763 --> 00:26:50,628
- Constantly getting up and going,
633
00:26:50,670 --> 00:26:52,305
checking the door all the time.
634
00:26:52,347 --> 00:26:54,828
And just looking out and
seeing if I see anybody out there,
635
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:57,228
and never really is.
636
00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:59,388
- Do you feel like there could be any connection
637
00:26:59,430 --> 00:27:01,638
between that and this-
638
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,045
- I do. - Property out here?
639
00:27:03,087 --> 00:27:04,713
And the walking around?
640
00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:08,568
- Yeah, there's something going on outside all the time.
641
00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:10,608
- Seems like it's a paranormal
642
00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:13,523
dimension of some type of something, to me, you know?
643
00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:14,398
I mean,
644
00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:18,948
I don't understand a whole
bunch about that kind of stuff,
645
00:27:18,990 --> 00:27:20,328
but that's what I would take it as.
646
00:27:20,370 --> 00:27:21,738
I'm not an expert or anything,
647
00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:24,438
but I would take it, definitely, something
648
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,930
that is
649
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,928
not necessarily of this world but, yet,
650
00:27:29,970 --> 00:27:32,448
you know, it is, but it isn't. Because it's obviously here.
651
00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:34,638
I mean, that wolf thing was nothing but a shadow.
652
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,613
But it was in, you know, it was-
653
00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:39,495
I always lose the ability to talk about it,
654
00:27:39,537 --> 00:27:42,498
because it's so hard to describe or whatever.
655
00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:44,628
He was just like a shadow, but it wasn't a shadow.
656
00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:46,098
You could see it clear as day.
657
00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:47,628
And, as soon as, you know, I looked at it,
658
00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:49,188
and my head followed it across the street,
659
00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:51,280
I mean, it just disappeared, it was gone.
660
00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:56,118
- [Tony] As night fell, we had no idea what lay
661
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,538
waiting for us outside the reach of the fire's light
662
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,268
until an accidental discovery confirmed
663
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:05,898
we had somehow landed right at ground zero.
664
00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:07,848
We might be in for a long night.
665
00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:08,681
- Why?
666
00:28:08,723 --> 00:28:10,593
- We might be in for a long couple nights.
667
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,248
We went down that trail where we saw the prints.
668
00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:19,758
And we went back further looking for a place to
669
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,798
put the game trail cams.
670
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,328
We went across, we found a little bridge
671
00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:25,518
to go back across the creek.
672
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,838
And we went back across the creek,
673
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,178
and went down around, 'cause we saw a tree that
674
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:32,178
would be a good spot to look over the trail.
675
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:33,498
I'm starting to hang it.
676
00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:34,413
And, Ward,
677
00:28:37,805 --> 00:28:38,928
he walks away.
678
00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:41,035
And I turn around and look over, and I said to him,
679
00:28:41,077 --> 00:28:41,898
"Is that what I think it is?"
680
00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:44,778
And he's like, "Yep," and he's standing there.
681
00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:46,150
And what I saw
682
00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:49,763
I thought was a skull.
683
00:28:49,805 --> 00:28:53,014
Like an antlers and stuff, you know?
684
00:28:53,056 --> 00:28:54,138
And so, I was like, "Oh," you know?
685
00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:56,443
And I turned to him and I said,
686
00:28:56,485 --> 00:29:00,078
"It's kind of a little, getting a little eerie back here."
687
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,578
And he's like, "Yep."
688
00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:05,628
And, when I got done hanging the camera,
689
00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:07,488
he's now standing next to me,
690
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:08,538
and we're getting ready to walk away.
691
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:09,918
And I was like, lemme go check this out real quick,
692
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,310
because I wanted to see it.
693
00:29:12,357 --> 00:29:14,688
When I walked up close to it,
694
00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:16,233
I didn't realize at the time,
695
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:19,728
was it was a ritual circle.
696
00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:22,398
And it had a couple different skulls.
697
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,468
It had a bowl in the middle of it.
698
00:29:24,510 --> 00:29:26,418
And these are the, this is what it looked like.
699
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:27,483
Just pass it around.
700
00:29:30,390 --> 00:29:32,088
There's a couple of pictures you can swipe through.
701
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:34,398
- It ties in with that
702
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,098
last story I told you in the interview.
703
00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:39,683
With the rituals that have
been happening around here.
704
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:44,903
- It was literally... Whoa.
705
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:48,078
- It was literally maybe like 30, 40 feet away
706
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,843
from where we were walking around this afternoon
707
00:29:50,885 --> 00:29:53,373
on the other side of the creek.
708
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,388
- So, I wonder if that's connected
709
00:29:56,430 --> 00:29:57,865
to what we saw with the footprints.
710
00:29:57,907 --> 00:29:58,923
- That way or that way? - That way.
711
00:29:58,965 --> 00:29:59,756
- That way.
712
00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:00,589
- So I wonder if it's connected with
713
00:30:00,631 --> 00:30:01,635
what we saw with the footprints?
714
00:30:01,677 --> 00:30:02,510
- Maybe.
715
00:30:03,405 --> 00:30:04,238
- Yeah.
716
00:30:08,416 --> 00:30:09,694
- Be careful with that.
717
00:30:09,736 --> 00:30:11,178
Stay away.
718
00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:13,158
- How recent would you say that is?
719
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,268
- Could be an ongoing thing.
720
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:16,403
It looks like it's been a while probably.
721
00:30:16,445 --> 00:30:19,338
So, it might be like this.
722
00:30:19,380 --> 00:30:22,698
Maybe Ryan interrupted one of their spots.
723
00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:26,418
This was their spot before he moved in, see?
724
00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:30,438
So, maybe, in their mind, he's intruding on these,
725
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,478
the people who own this are intruding on their deal.
726
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,843
In their view.
727
00:30:36,885 --> 00:30:40,465
So this might be just a statement of some sort.
728
00:30:40,507 --> 00:30:42,563
"We're here and we're gonna stay here,"
729
00:30:42,605 --> 00:30:44,118
or something like that.
730
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,108
It's a warfare.
731
00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:47,465
It's a form of warfare.
732
00:30:47,507 --> 00:30:48,828
You know, if you really think about it,
733
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:50,448
that's what it was utilized for.
734
00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:52,998
So, when you see those things, that's,
735
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,348
when our people see that.
736
00:30:54,390 --> 00:30:56,643
That's a sign of war against you.
737
00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:59,118
They've invaded you,
738
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,128
and they've done their thing on your land.
739
00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:03,018
They put their flag there, right?
740
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:04,515
That's what they've done.
741
00:31:04,557 --> 00:31:08,985
- And you believe this connects
with the possible prints?
742
00:31:09,027 --> 00:31:09,894
- It does.
743
00:31:09,936 --> 00:31:11,795
- It does connect? - It does, yeah.
744
00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:13,935
- Yeah, you guys are in it now.
745
00:31:13,977 --> 00:31:16,923
- You know, it almost looks like a crown of thorns.
746
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:18,971
Whoa.
747
00:31:19,013 --> 00:31:20,633
- It was a little too dark to see what was-
748
00:31:21,517 --> 00:31:23,395
- You guys gotta take me down there.
749
00:31:23,437 --> 00:31:26,363
- Not tonight. - Not tonight?
750
00:31:26,405 --> 00:31:28,788
- That's unbelievable man.
751
00:31:28,830 --> 00:31:30,348
Get that, here, get, I don't want it.
752
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:31,653
I'll go wash my hands.
753
00:31:33,397 --> 00:31:34,188
- Wow.
754
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:37,523
- Hey, we've got a light coming up from the mesa.
755
00:31:37,565 --> 00:31:38,873
- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
756
00:31:38,915 --> 00:31:41,534
We've got a light above the mesa.
757
00:31:41,576 --> 00:31:43,243
Grab the binoculars.
758
00:31:51,387 --> 00:31:53,478
- You might need to get your Ace out here.
759
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,870
I'm not quite sensitive enough to pick that up.
760
00:31:56,944 --> 00:31:57,902
- Its going. - Oh, man.
761
00:31:57,944 --> 00:32:00,043
- It's gone. - It's gone.
762
00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:01,123
- That was a big light.
763
00:32:01,165 --> 00:32:02,501
- I got it on camera. - You got it?
764
00:32:02,543 --> 00:32:03,783
- I got a picture of it.
765
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,591
- Whatever that was-
766
00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:07,843
- Well, there's something's still lit up there, though.
767
00:32:07,885 --> 00:32:10,188
There's none of this last night.
768
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:11,925
- Oh! - You see it?
769
00:32:11,967 --> 00:32:13,113
- Oh, my god.
770
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:17,418
There is something pulsating like crazy.
771
00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:18,593
- Oh, you're looking at over here?
772
00:32:18,635 --> 00:32:19,788
- I'm seeing, yeah.
773
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:20,718
- It's over here too, though.
774
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,248
- Yes, it's going nuts this time.
775
00:32:22,290 --> 00:32:24,102
Oh, man, they're both going nuts.
776
00:32:24,144 --> 00:32:27,708
- All right, so I was talking to you guys earlier about
777
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:29,868
the ritual circle, and how things started
778
00:32:29,910 --> 00:32:31,512
heating up here when
779
00:32:31,554 --> 00:32:33,918
we started talking to the group about it.
780
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,528
Well, we started getting
lights out here over the ridge,
781
00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:37,938
and they've been nonstop, Joel.
782
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:38,928
- Oh, man, here they come again.
783
00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:40,793
- Here they come again.
784
00:32:40,835 --> 00:32:43,160
- Oh, man, it's huge.
785
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,773
Wow.
786
00:32:52,344 --> 00:32:56,534
- Right there, look there, what's this one here?
787
00:32:56,576 --> 00:32:57,826
Straight ahead.
788
00:33:01,555 --> 00:33:03,348
- What are you seeing out here?
789
00:33:03,390 --> 00:33:04,638
Just describe to them what's going on.
790
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,758
- So, there's these red and white lights,
791
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,978
and they're pulsating in the non rhythmic pattern.
792
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:12,498
So, they're just moving in this one spot,
793
00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:14,718
but they're not showing up in the same place at all.
794
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,548
And, sometimes, they're getting super bright.
795
00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:18,738
And then, sometimes, they're not as bright.
796
00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:20,508
But it's, they're not in the same slot,
797
00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:23,478
so you know, it's not a stationary light
798
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,128
that's out there for
799
00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:26,121
planes or anything like that.
800
00:33:26,163 --> 00:33:28,038
This is completely different.
801
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,571
We've seen lights pulsating
throughout the ridge too.
802
00:33:29,613 --> 00:33:30,978
- On the ridge, yep.
803
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:34,038
- So it's just popped up right around the time
804
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,598
they found this like ritual circle.
805
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,768
- And that's where it started.
806
00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:37,878
These lights on the ridge,
807
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,368
way over to where we're, from where we're looking now,
808
00:33:40,410 --> 00:33:42,978
was shining up into the sky.
809
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:43,977
- Oh! - Whoa!
810
00:33:44,019 --> 00:33:44,810
- Oh!
811
00:33:44,852 --> 00:33:47,054
- Whoa, that just lit up. - There it is, that's it.
812
00:33:47,096 --> 00:33:47,887
- That just lit up.
813
00:33:47,929 --> 00:33:48,720
- That's what I've been saying.
814
00:33:48,762 --> 00:33:49,914
- Yep, and now it's gone, right?
815
00:33:49,956 --> 00:33:52,188
- Oh, here they come. - Oh, yep, yep.
816
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:53,118
All right, let's not yell too loud,
817
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,798
'cause I don't want them hearing us over there.
818
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,208
- Oh, my god. - That's gone.
819
00:33:56,250 --> 00:33:57,858
But there's two more over there, onto the right,
820
00:33:57,900 --> 00:33:58,691
and it's moving.
821
00:33:58,733 --> 00:33:59,524
Yep, I see it now.
822
00:33:59,566 --> 00:34:00,648
I see it now.
823
00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,238
Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about, bro.
824
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,668
- Yeah, but there's a red one that jumps in with 'em.
825
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:05,911
- Well, I can't see color on this.
826
00:34:05,953 --> 00:34:08,531
- Yeah, this is crazy. But both of those were white.
827
00:34:08,573 --> 00:34:10,323
- But you see those two still right there, right?
828
00:34:10,365 --> 00:34:11,785
You still see the two?
829
00:34:11,827 --> 00:34:14,568
Okay, oh, and look like-
830
00:34:14,610 --> 00:34:16,818
- That has nothing to do with that red one, though.
831
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:17,868
- That's blue, that's blue.
832
00:34:17,910 --> 00:34:19,608
It's gone. - It's gone.
833
00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:21,134
- Man, this thing is bright.
834
00:34:21,176 --> 00:34:23,755
- What are we looking at?
835
00:34:23,797 --> 00:34:25,003
What is that?
836
00:34:25,045 --> 00:34:26,518
- I have no idea. - What the heck?
837
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,458
- Hang on a sec, I gotta get this one
838
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,105
that I can get on the camera here.
839
00:34:30,147 --> 00:34:31,188
- No, they're everywhere.
840
00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:34,038
You're not gonna have that many planes in the sky.
841
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,908
- Not that close together.
842
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:36,100
- Yo, these are moving.
843
00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:40,638
What is that in the sky, guys?
844
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,538
- Look where the plane's at,
845
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,488
but look at the other one right there by it.
846
00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:45,708
- Joel, you gotta come here and look at my camera, bro.
847
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:46,541
- Oh, shit.
848
00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:48,408
- Let me see this pattern.
849
00:34:48,450 --> 00:34:49,283
- Where is it?
850
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,858
- [Tony] After recording sightings in the sky
851
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:54,288
we could not explain, we started to wonder
852
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:56,658
if the stories of the activity in the area
853
00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:58,758
being intelligent were true.
854
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,548
It really seemed to us, as we were there living it,
855
00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:03,498
that the discovery of this altar
856
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:05,778
and our attention on it at the campfire
857
00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:09,438
might have kicked off all this phenomena in the sky.
858
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,568
- All right, so me and the whole crew
859
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:13,778
are going down to the ritual site right now.
860
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,384
It is nighttime.
861
00:35:15,426 --> 00:35:19,158
And we're gonna go check it out and see what happens.
862
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,538
Because
863
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:22,518
our natural reaction is to kind of just
864
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,868
stay next to the fire.
865
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:24,948
I think that's human.
866
00:35:24,990 --> 00:35:27,078
And so, we're gonna go against our reactions
867
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,908
and our inclinations,
868
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:32,465
and go check out this ritual circle at nighttime.
869
00:35:32,507 --> 00:35:35,340
(brush crunching)
870
00:35:48,136 --> 00:35:49,606
- Oh, there's quarters there.
871
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:50,481
- Yep.
872
00:35:52,016 --> 00:35:52,985
- Crystals.
873
00:35:53,027 --> 00:35:55,155
- Multiple skulls.
874
00:35:55,197 --> 00:35:56,030
Jawbone.
875
00:35:58,488 --> 00:35:59,491
- What's this?
876
00:35:59,533 --> 00:36:00,324
There's
877
00:36:00,366 --> 00:36:01,248
some kind of seeds.
878
00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:02,081
- That's another offering.
879
00:36:02,123 --> 00:36:03,384
- Don't touch too much, though,
880
00:36:03,426 --> 00:36:04,446
I don't want anything touched right now.
881
00:36:04,488 --> 00:36:05,298
- Don't touch it.
882
00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:07,023
- It still has skin on the skull.
883
00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:13,098
And Bow would know more than I do, but
884
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:14,568
these are probably an offering.
885
00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:16,818
The seeds on the side of it.
886
00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:18,618
The orientation of it's important.
887
00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:21,861
So, if we knew which way north, west, south,
888
00:36:21,903 --> 00:36:24,468
so this is probably north.
889
00:36:24,510 --> 00:36:26,060
- Keep your ears open. - Yeah.
890
00:36:30,896 --> 00:36:34,229
- That's as much as it can do right now.
891
00:36:41,287 --> 00:36:43,728
- Yeah, no, I heard movements too.
892
00:36:43,770 --> 00:36:44,561
- You heard movements?
893
00:36:44,603 --> 00:36:45,708
- Yeah, we heard cracking.
894
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:46,947
Yeah, that way.
895
00:36:50,805 --> 00:36:52,555
- All right, lets go.
896
00:36:53,633 --> 00:36:54,466
What?
897
00:36:57,977 --> 00:37:00,888
- Almost like a rat, we don't see anything.
898
00:37:00,930 --> 00:37:01,763
It was-
899
00:37:03,390 --> 00:37:04,223
Where?
900
00:37:05,777 --> 00:37:08,444
(ominous music)
901
00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:14,988
- [Tony] After a wild first night,
902
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:16,668
we wanted to get Johnny's perspective
903
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:18,168
on the area in general,
904
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:20,358
and what could lie behind the strange things
905
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,738
that seemed to manifest there.
906
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:22,683
- Several years.
907
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:26,530
Yeah, it's just always been an amazing place
908
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,588
when it comes to those types of paranormal,
909
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:31,863
you know, activities.
910
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:35,718
But it's just been ongoing ever since I was a kid.
911
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,773
You know, we're told all these stories,
912
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,178
and warnings, and all sorts of things.
913
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,765
So, we live by those things a lot.
914
00:37:43,807 --> 00:37:47,050
The outside is just kind of starting to figure out
915
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:50,088
and take notice of what we've been noticing,
916
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:52,068
probably, for thousands of years.
917
00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:54,258
- We, yesterday we were checking out what,
918
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,958
we were just, for us, calling a boneyard.
919
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,158
And we were followed back to where we were staying
920
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,688
by a guy that saw us there.
921
00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:04,038
- Oh, wow.
922
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,268
- And he even stopped at the end of the driveway
923
00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:07,068
that we turned into and just stared at my vehicle
924
00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:07,935
as I was pulling in.
925
00:38:07,977 --> 00:38:09,558
And I didn't know if it was something that like
926
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,235
people noticed if you're not from around here
927
00:38:11,277 --> 00:38:12,888
and they kind of just follow you to make sure
928
00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:15,633
you're up to, not up to any, you know, problems.
929
00:38:17,024 --> 00:38:17,857
- Yeah, yeah.
930
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:23,148
I'll tell you this, like, okay, so, you're in a bone yard.
931
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:26,733
I don't know exactly what you've seen or where it was,
932
00:38:30,187 --> 00:38:32,290
but when we talk about one specific
933
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:36,558
activity, is the skin walker.
934
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,968
I call it a cult, basically.
935
00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:39,040
It's a bad
936
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:42,348
spiritual, bad, evil is,
937
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:44,703
basically that's what we consider to be.
938
00:38:45,988 --> 00:38:47,103
And it's a bad energy.
939
00:38:48,060 --> 00:38:50,718
You know, there's a lot of
that activity that goes around.
940
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,840
And those are actually physical humans
941
00:38:54,348 --> 00:38:56,178
who go through that process.
942
00:38:56,220 --> 00:38:59,598
In essence, they're like werewolves, okay?
943
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,083
However they became, there's
all sorts of different ways.
944
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:07,506
And it's not specific to one tribe.
945
00:39:07,548 --> 00:39:09,348
It's all over.
946
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:13,173
It's a ship shape, shape,
excuse me, shape shifting, right?
947
00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:18,813
So, they have specific, different,
948
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:23,358
you know, shape shifters follow different alters.
949
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,543
Different medicine.
950
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:27,684
It's dark medicine.
951
00:39:27,726 --> 00:39:29,268
'Cause we have good medicine,
952
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:31,698
and there's bad medicine straight out, you know?
953
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:35,598
There's a lot of that that goes on in Native country.
954
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,095
A lot of the reservations you go to,
955
00:39:38,137 --> 00:39:40,008
you'll hear about it.
956
00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:42,888
You know, curses, different things that people
957
00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:45,423
have learned how to,
958
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,428
learned how to utilize these entities
959
00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,378
and these forces that are out there.
960
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:53,928
So, that's basically what they've done.
961
00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:56,328
Hundreds, maybe thousand of years ago,
962
00:39:56,370 --> 00:39:59,714
a group had, you know, discovered these entities.
963
00:39:59,756 --> 00:40:04,098
And become subservient to those entities,
964
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:06,318
I guess that's what you would say.
965
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,495
So, it's a dark force.
966
00:40:07,537 --> 00:40:09,438
It's a dark force.
967
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,663
- So, with, on that topic of the shape shifting, go ahead.
968
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,958
- Just keep your eye out.
969
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,833
- Okay.
970
00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:18,558
With what you just said,
971
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,758
how prevalent would you say
shape shifters are around here?
972
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,528
I mean, is this something that is like a hit and miss?
973
00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:25,908
Every once in a while you see something?
974
00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:27,978
There could be somebody in
here presence that is like that?
975
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:30,708
Or is it something that a lot of people pursue?
976
00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:34,180
- I don't know how to say it. It's just a, there's a few.
977
00:40:35,385 --> 00:40:37,385
You know, there's a few.
978
00:40:38,657 --> 00:40:40,457
- What are we watching for out here?
979
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:44,051
- That's so vast.
980
00:40:44,093 --> 00:40:46,283
- I mean, aside from the fact that it's gorgeous.
981
00:40:48,326 --> 00:40:50,055
- Wow.
982
00:40:50,097 --> 00:40:51,524
That rock looks-
983
00:40:51,566 --> 00:40:54,255
- That's the old Grandmother rock right there.
984
00:40:54,297 --> 00:40:55,143
- Wow.
985
00:40:55,185 --> 00:40:56,994
Yeah, it looks-
986
00:40:57,036 --> 00:40:59,268
- See, there's a, this is where a lot of the activity goes.
987
00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:00,978
This is one of our sacred spots.
988
00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:02,958
This whole area is all sacred,
989
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,128
sacred hills.
990
00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:05,187
- Really?
991
00:41:05,229 --> 00:41:06,020
- You could walk over there if you want to.
992
00:41:06,062 --> 00:41:07,198
You wanna walk over there?
993
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:08,238
- Yeah. - Yeah.
994
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,080
- Just take a look at some of these, let me turn around.
995
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,155
I've noticed this, and like I was telling you,
996
00:41:14,197 --> 00:41:19,158
that with this skin walker,
whatever you wanna call 'em,
997
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,808
bad guys,
998
00:41:20,850 --> 00:41:23,478
there is a human entity that's pushing it, right?
999
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,221
There's a human.
1000
00:41:25,263 --> 00:41:27,071
Like even one of us
1001
00:41:27,113 --> 00:41:29,733
could join that, do those bad things.
1002
00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:33,828
So, they do have their people, their guards.
1003
00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:34,728
And I've noticed that.
1004
00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:38,028
In fact, a few, about say a few months ago,
1005
00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:40,196
yeah, about a couple months ago,
1006
00:41:40,238 --> 00:41:43,218
it was back in April, I was helping a friend.
1007
00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:45,648
She lived just north to me on White Rocks Road.
1008
00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:47,778
And she had, they had been seeing these creatures
1009
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:50,268
around here and in the trees.
1010
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:51,408
It was shouting at them.
1011
00:41:51,450 --> 00:41:54,138
Just like, they were just like, "What the heck is this?"
1012
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:56,903
And, one night, you know, one even came into the house.
1013
00:41:56,945 --> 00:41:59,043
It scared her daughter.
1014
00:41:59,910 --> 00:42:01,685
So, they called me.
1015
00:42:01,727 --> 00:42:03,228
And, I said, "Well, let's pray."
1016
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:05,448
So, we went and did our thing
1017
00:42:05,490 --> 00:42:07,908
to protect her house, her family.
1018
00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:10,593
And we made a barrier around her little ranch there.
1019
00:42:12,497 --> 00:42:13,488
And so, we left, in fact,
1020
00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:15,138
it's funny we're talking about this,
1021
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:19,724
'cause we came here to pray, to leave some tobacco here.
1022
00:42:19,766 --> 00:42:21,258
'Cause of power in this place.
1023
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:22,998
So we said, "Let's come down here
1024
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,028
and we'll leave some tobacco for the old lady
1025
00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:27,948
and then we'll go back."
1026
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:29,298
So, we brought the tobacco here,
1027
00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:32,028
which is an offering to Creator.
1028
00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:33,288
We went back.
1029
00:42:33,330 --> 00:42:35,028
And we're in two vehicles.
1030
00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:37,698
They went up the road to her house.
1031
00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:39,498
And I was about to turn off the highway
1032
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:41,715
to go up the road to her house, her son was with me.
1033
00:42:41,757 --> 00:42:44,298
And I looked at the road, just
a little ways down the road,
1034
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:46,008
like from here to my pickup,
1035
00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:47,598
and I seen this guy in a hood.
1036
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,288
You know, hood, just walking, kind of his head down.
1037
00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:52,263
And,
1038
00:42:53,396 --> 00:42:56,298
so I said, I asked, "Who is that?"
1039
00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:57,595
He said, he didn't say much.
1040
00:42:57,637 --> 00:42:58,848
"Ah, it's just somebody walking."
1041
00:42:58,890 --> 00:43:00,221
So, we went up, it was quite a ways,
1042
00:43:00,263 --> 00:43:01,485
maybe a little further than that.
1043
00:43:01,527 --> 00:43:03,738
And I just dropped him off, turned back around,
1044
00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:05,178
came back down the hill.
1045
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:06,258
And he was a little closer.
1046
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,298
And, just as he was getting to the boundary,
1047
00:43:08,340 --> 00:43:11,328
like where we prayed and we left our medicine there,
1048
00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:13,764
he just like, something pushed him back.
1049
00:43:13,806 --> 00:43:15,888
Something pushed him back.
1050
00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:16,836
Made him go.
1051
00:43:16,878 --> 00:43:19,225
And the weird thing was if, maybe if it was,
1052
00:43:19,267 --> 00:43:20,658
"Oh, I forgot something, I got turned around."
1053
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:22,624
Why didn't he go back down the highway?
1054
00:43:22,666 --> 00:43:25,042
It pushed him back, and he went down in the ditch,
1055
00:43:25,084 --> 00:43:27,244
and he went into the trees.
1056
00:43:27,286 --> 00:43:28,077
- Wow.
1057
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,878
- Yeah, so, but I told, and that's something I was told
1058
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,898
to be careful.
1059
00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:35,756
I've always noticed those
things and seen those things.
1060
00:43:35,798 --> 00:43:38,718
And, since then, the lady, too, she's my friend,
1061
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,088
she's told me that they've seen it again.
1062
00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:41,921
But he's-
1063
00:43:41,963 --> 00:43:44,118
He won't come through.
1064
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,803
He's trying to come through, but he can't come through.
1065
00:43:46,764 --> 00:43:49,023
- So, this is just in this area right here?
1066
00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:54,858
- The way I figured, because I tracked the different,
1067
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:56,688
just over time and over the years,
1068
00:43:56,730 --> 00:43:59,268
I've heard different stories from different places.
1069
00:43:59,310 --> 00:44:01,143
And it all seems to follow,
1070
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,676
it follows, actually, it follows the rivers.
1071
00:44:04,718 --> 00:44:05,958
It follows the rivers.
1072
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,968
You'll see a lot of activity along this river.
1073
00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:09,168
North and south.
1074
00:44:09,210 --> 00:44:11,878
And then, right in where,
Skinwalker Ranch happens to be
1075
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,058
where the two rivers connect.
1076
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:15,768
And then, you also have a lot of activity
1077
00:44:15,810 --> 00:44:17,328
that's coming down the Duchenne River
1078
00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:19,308
Strawberry and Duchenne River.
1079
00:44:19,350 --> 00:44:20,183
And
1080
00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:25,095
it seems to follow some sort of a track.
1081
00:44:25,137 --> 00:44:28,638
Or a, you know, some line of power.
1082
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,415
In March, I was walking on that side
1083
00:44:31,457 --> 00:44:34,848
and they, see all these weird formations?
1084
00:44:34,890 --> 00:44:36,002
These little ridges in here?
1085
00:44:36,044 --> 00:44:36,835
- Yeah.
1086
00:44:36,877 --> 00:44:38,685
- I was just looking at 'em.
1087
00:44:38,727 --> 00:44:40,428
And a lot of them were, are really weird,
1088
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:42,318
'cause they're supposed to be natural formations,
1089
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,153
but they don't look like they were naturally placed.
1090
00:44:46,257 --> 00:44:48,528
Right angles, different things like that.
1091
00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:50,405
So, whatever it may be.
1092
00:44:50,447 --> 00:44:52,398
All of our prophecies kind of, more or less,
1093
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,168
tell the same thing.
1094
00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:56,118
There's a big change coming.
1095
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,998
You know, even coincides with a lot of Christian
1096
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,218
and a lot of those teachings as well.
1097
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:04,488
But, with most Natives, it's, we're there.
1098
00:45:04,530 --> 00:45:06,738
We've already, you know, started.
1099
00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:08,373
It's already going.
1100
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:11,898
- You've already been acknowledging it?
1101
00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:13,315
- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah.
1102
00:45:13,357 --> 00:45:15,618
- For a long time, even when I was a kid,
1103
00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:17,210
you know, they talk about that.
1104
00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:19,810
- So, given
1105
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,170
what you were talking about before with
1106
00:45:24,167 --> 00:45:25,180
the burial sites
1107
00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:28,338
and not disturbing ground,
1108
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:29,988
we've heard a lot of people suggest that
1109
00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:32,121
all these oil rigs are disturbing the ground.
1110
00:45:32,163 --> 00:45:33,588
- Yes, yes they are.
1111
00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:36,348
- So, it's
1112
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:38,268
fathomable that these oil rigs
1113
00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:39,858
are really drumming up a lot of activity.
1114
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:42,858
- They are drumming up a lot of activity.
1115
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:44,658
And I used to think about this,
1116
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:46,638
and I actually proposed this to the tribe.
1117
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,485
This is years ago, 20 some years ago,
1118
00:45:48,527 --> 00:45:50,973
when there wasn't a lot of activity.
1119
00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:54,228
Because, being from North Dakota, being a Lakota,
1120
00:45:54,270 --> 00:45:57,723
that's probably how we would attend to things.
1121
00:45:59,610 --> 00:46:01,743
So, I said, every time we drill a well,
1122
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:05,265
we should have a, we should go and pray for that well
1123
00:46:05,307 --> 00:46:06,978
and we should offer,
1124
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:08,658
'cause we don't know what we're drilling into.
1125
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:11,178
We don't know what we're releasing, you know?
1126
00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:13,667
So, yeah, I, a hundred percent,
1127
00:46:13,709 --> 00:46:15,378
I a hundred percent believe that.
1128
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:17,688
I believe it to be true
1129
00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:18,521
as you feel it.
1130
00:46:18,563 --> 00:46:20,988
And there's been more activity
1131
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:23,088
since a lot of this oil,
1132
00:46:23,130 --> 00:46:25,008
you know, activity has come to the basin.
1133
00:46:25,050 --> 00:46:27,888
There's been more unidentified paranormal
1134
00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:29,988
activities going around.
1135
00:46:30,030 --> 00:46:33,393
And I definitely think there's a connection.
1136
00:46:33,435 --> 00:46:34,936
Absolutely.
1137
00:46:34,978 --> 00:46:38,748
- [Tony] Could the Mesa really
contain ancient burial sites?
1138
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:41,988
Or the remnants of an even older civilization?
1139
00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:44,328
Could the recent oil boom in some way
1140
00:46:44,370 --> 00:46:47,658
be upsetting the area and causing strange activity?
1141
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:50,688
According to many locals, the answer is yes.
1142
00:46:50,730 --> 00:46:53,508
- The wolf that you saw and the sounds that you hear,
1143
00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:55,187
before or after the drilling?
1144
00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:56,058
- [Both] After.
1145
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,638
- Yeah, it was definitely after.
1146
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,138
- Now, that's interesting, don't you think?
1147
00:47:00,180 --> 00:47:02,340
- Yeah, I do. - Oh, think it is.
1148
00:47:05,186 --> 00:47:09,018
- With every situation, there is a multitude of
1149
00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:11,688
factors playing into what is happening.
1150
00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:14,238
And I think that one of the things that
1151
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,698
is happening is that there's been a lot of
1152
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:20,350
radiation fallout that has swept over this valley
1153
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,064
from the testing sites in Nevada
1154
00:47:24,106 --> 00:47:25,938
due to the air currents.
1155
00:47:25,980 --> 00:47:28,008
So, I think there's a lot of
1156
00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:30,528
radioactive material in the soil.
1157
00:47:30,570 --> 00:47:34,008
That, when you dig, you
disrupt this radioactive material.
1158
00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:36,288
And so, I think that's a caution on that,
1159
00:47:36,330 --> 00:47:38,328
just for our current history.
1160
00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:40,668
But, I think, if we're going back to ancient history,
1161
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:43,098
it's a burial ground for the tribal people.
1162
00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:45,588
They understand that there's this energy highway,
1163
00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:47,598
and they want their ancestors
1164
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,968
to travel this highway back to source.
1165
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:52,158
So, they, you know, there's a burial ground
1166
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,148
right next to the ranch.
1167
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:54,528
The ranch was pretty much built,
1168
00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:56,958
that whole ridge is a burial ground.
1169
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,308
So,
1170
00:47:58,350 --> 00:47:59,178
you know,
1171
00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:00,768
disrupting that is just
1172
00:48:00,810 --> 00:48:04,158
its own offense in and of itself, you know?
1173
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,820
- [Ryan] Yeah, there's some really strange
1174
00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:10,188
things going on.
1175
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:13,218
There's activity that has kind of like
1176
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:16,308
rebooted around 2016,
1177
00:48:16,350 --> 00:48:18,835
right around when this oil rig went in.
1178
00:48:18,877 --> 00:48:22,098
Right around when new ownership purchased.
1179
00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:22,973
And
1180
00:48:24,149 --> 00:48:26,808
it's very interesting.
1181
00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:28,398
- There's a lot of people
1182
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,258
that say that people used to bury
1183
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:31,788
their dead in certain places, you know?
1184
00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:33,558
Indian burial grounds.
1185
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,408
And so, they have tons of them in this whole basin.
1186
00:48:36,450 --> 00:48:37,518
Just everywhere.
1187
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,794
Sprawled out in
1188
00:48:38,836 --> 00:48:42,176
any direction you go, you always see one.
1189
00:48:42,218 --> 00:48:45,678
And, you know, the more they do that,
1190
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:47,635
the spirits of the dead,
1191
00:48:47,677 --> 00:48:50,538
or whatever you want to call them,
1192
00:48:50,580 --> 00:48:53,928
you know, it unleashes that into the world.
1193
00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:54,978
They have nowhere to go.
1194
00:48:55,020 --> 00:48:56,538
Their bodies,
1195
00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:58,728
Native Americans, as far as,
1196
00:48:58,770 --> 00:49:01,158
you know, they believe is,
1197
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,413
when you die, you have to have your body connected,
1198
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:06,888
or you have to have your body
1199
00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:08,730
to be connected to the spirit world.
1200
00:49:12,629 --> 00:49:14,118
Or to Native American heaven.
1201
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,333
The hunting grounds.
1202
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:18,438
You have to have your body here.
1203
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,948
So, when a Native American cremates themselves,
1204
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:25,308
they have no body to be connected to that world.
1205
00:49:25,350 --> 00:49:27,078
But a lot of people
1206
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,388
did bury their dead with all their bodies,
1207
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:31,788
everything, and their belongings.
1208
00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:34,338
But, when these things happen,
1209
00:49:34,380 --> 00:49:36,618
and it disturbs that,
1210
00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:39,918
their spirits are disconnected,
1211
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,518
from my understanding, from that bridge, you know?
1212
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,308
Because something keeps their body here,
1213
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:48,123
and they're up there.
1214
00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:51,408
They, you know, a lot of them have to come down
1215
00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:52,700
and see what's happening.
1216
00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:56,628
- [Tony] Could this place really be
1217
00:49:56,670 --> 00:49:58,368
some kind of energy highway?
1218
00:49:58,410 --> 00:50:02,478
A lay line or path that draws the activity along it?
1219
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,488
Could burial sites be what energizes
1220
00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:06,978
the shape shifter rituals and medicine?
1221
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:08,943
Or is it something darker?
1222
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:11,848
- What's there to fear about a shape shifter?
1223
00:50:11,890 --> 00:50:14,298
Have they been known to hurt people?
1224
00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:15,663
- Yes, yes.
1225
00:50:16,530 --> 00:50:19,728
So, as I was talking earlier, down there.
1226
00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:21,498
We're talking, this is a,
1227
00:50:21,540 --> 00:50:24,318
this was a form of warfare, you know?
1228
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,238
So, that was the purpose of it.
1229
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,318
So, they are, they do carry
medicine from that realm, okay?
1230
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,288
This is all energized or all
1231
00:50:33,330 --> 00:50:36,918
sponsored from this dark
realm, from a specific point.
1232
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,398
So, they do have the ability to hurt people,
1233
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,413
to kill people, to take things from people.
1234
00:50:45,690 --> 00:50:46,608
It's all about control.
1235
00:50:46,650 --> 00:50:47,628
I don't know exactly.
1236
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:50,448
I try not to know, but, you know, it's all around us.
1237
00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:53,313
So, you know, we hear a lot of things.
1238
00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:56,088
I don't know, you know?
1239
00:50:56,130 --> 00:51:00,288
It's just a bad, dark place for bad, dark people, you know?
1240
00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:03,678
- You came here as a youth pastor.
1241
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:04,553
- Yeah.
1242
00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:07,578
- In doing that,
1243
00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:10,518
you have a set of beliefs
1244
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,068
that were well-defined before this.
1245
00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:15,648
Has that been changed, altered,
1246
00:51:15,690 --> 00:51:17,553
strengthened in any way this week?
1247
00:51:20,130 --> 00:51:21,948
- We talk about
1248
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:22,998
all of these things.
1249
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,750
Like the evil entities and
1250
00:51:26,610 --> 00:51:29,321
the guarding of yourself from these, you know?
1251
00:51:29,363 --> 00:51:31,158
This is what Johnny's talking about.
1252
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,498
You know, especially with guarding yourself with,
1253
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:37,218
what he does, with sage, and prayer, and everything.
1254
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:40,338
I mean, the Bible talks about, you know,
1255
00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:43,188
preparing yourself with the
armor of Christ, you know?
1256
00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:44,021
- Amen, amen.
1257
00:51:44,063 --> 00:51:47,943
- And that's, in my mind, that's the comparison I see.
1258
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:51,858
- Be aware of what's going on underneath you
1259
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:53,943
no matter where you are, you know?
1260
00:51:55,253 --> 00:51:57,198
Because there might be some
1261
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,873
energy, some power that's there from way back, you know?
1262
00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:04,338
Even our people don't know,
1263
00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:06,198
'cause we're newcomers to this area.
1264
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,035
So, our elders would always tell us,
1265
00:52:08,077 --> 00:52:10,548
"Don't dig, don't do this, don't disturb things
1266
00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:11,418
from the old people."
1267
00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:13,768
There were people before us, so we didn't,
1268
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:15,588
we didn't mess with that you know?
1269
00:52:15,630 --> 00:52:18,258
But do be aware of what's underneath you, you know?
1270
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:20,718
I've lived in cities, in Phoenix and Chicago.
1271
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,508
And people build, and especially in Phoenix,
1272
00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:26,208
there's been, oh, there's probably thousands of cases
1273
00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:28,128
building right over the Hohokum,
1274
00:52:28,170 --> 00:52:30,168
you know, ruins and different things.
1275
00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:31,870
And you have a lot of
1276
00:52:33,210 --> 00:52:36,633
poltergeist activity around that area.
1277
00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:39,978
But people don't know why.
1278
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:42,528
So, I'll say, so know what's underneath you.
1279
00:52:42,570 --> 00:52:44,648
Know it's there, listen.
1280
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:47,208
Don't disregard those stories, you know?
1281
00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,758
And I think that's what's important.
1282
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,648
And that'll just enhance things, you know?
1283
00:52:51,690 --> 00:52:53,628
It'll enhance you, 'cause it gives you more history
1284
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:54,730
and more insight
1285
00:52:55,590 --> 00:52:56,381
to what's going on.
1286
00:52:56,423 --> 00:52:58,248
'Cause it's not just the past ten years
1287
00:52:58,290 --> 00:53:00,048
since YouTube's been invented, you know?
1288
00:53:00,090 --> 00:53:03,513
We've been seeing this for a long time, yeah.
1289
00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:08,658
But things are changing,
1290
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:10,400
I guess that's what I'll tell you.
1291
00:53:11,241 --> 00:53:13,143
All our people will say that.
1292
00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:16,308
Be prepared, things will get weird.
1293
00:53:16,350 --> 00:53:18,048
Things will change.
1294
00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:20,328
- You don't have to speak for the entire tribe, but
1295
00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:23,748
would a weight be lifted on
a lot of people if they could
1296
00:53:23,790 --> 00:53:25,968
tell their side of the story?
1297
00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:27,438
- Yes.
1298
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,298
- [Tony] That's exactly what we had hoped to do
1299
00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:30,558
by coming here.
1300
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,838
We hoped we could give voice to the experiences of
1301
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,878
those that had lived here the longest.
1302
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,553
Sometimes the campfire stories
you hear end up being true.
1303
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:42,168
The next morning, anthropologist, James Keenan,
1304
00:53:42,210 --> 00:53:45,018
who had spent six years
following the magnetic field shifts
1305
00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:47,868
beneath the Uintah Basin, arrived at Space Wolf
1306
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:49,608
to take EMF readings.
1307
00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:52,278
And James's data and anthropological insight
1308
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,498
into an even older civilization
1309
00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:56,598
added yet another layer of meaning
1310
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,121
onto the happenings we had experienced in this area.
1311
00:53:59,163 --> 00:54:02,178
- In this are you have from a negative 14 micro Tesla
1312
00:54:02,220 --> 00:54:04,510
all the way up to an 89 micro Tesla with
1313
00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:08,432
the average for this area being a 46.
1314
00:54:08,474 --> 00:54:11,598
I believe it was 46 for right here.
1315
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,403
So, that's just what
1316
00:54:13,445 --> 00:54:14,980
the magnetic
1317
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:18,648
differences are for each location in the earth,
1318
00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:20,253
all the way down to its core.
1319
00:54:21,630 --> 00:54:23,500
A negative would
1320
00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:27,528
mean that there's some type of cavity.
1321
00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:28,998
Or void underground.
1322
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,548
The higher means there's something highly magnetic.
1323
00:54:31,590 --> 00:54:33,288
To go up to an 89, you're talking about
1324
00:54:33,330 --> 00:54:35,148
something like a large magnet.
1325
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:37,938
But, what's insane is, it's transient.
1326
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:38,771
It's moving.
1327
00:54:38,813 --> 00:54:42,408
You can't have a negative 14
to an 89 in the same location.
1328
00:54:42,450 --> 00:54:44,350
Yet, this is one of four spots
1329
00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:46,998
that I've found.
1330
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,618
And it's in a diagonal line.
1331
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:52,308
They perfectly match up at 8.34 degrees.
1332
00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:53,538
And, what's kind of crazy is that,
1333
00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:57,168
8.34 degree heading goes
right up to Blind Frog Ranch too.
1334
00:54:57,210 --> 00:54:59,530
So, and then, there's this whole underground
1335
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:03,018
cavern system too that we've been
1336
00:55:03,060 --> 00:55:04,878
under in certain parts
1337
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,218
with a lot of flowing water.
1338
00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:09,138
So, we're wondering if maybe that's how,
1339
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:10,980
if it's highly, you know, if there's
1340
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,108
saline, there's positive ions, high magnesium.
1341
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:17,688
My whole hypothesis is that
1342
00:55:17,730 --> 00:55:21,228
there's some type of magnetic energy underground
1343
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:23,118
that's feeding to a, it's a relay.
1344
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,528
So, you have point A underground.
1345
00:55:24,570 --> 00:55:26,988
There's a point B, whatever that may be.
1346
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:30,738
And then, it's transmitting out into space.
1347
00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:33,948
And, whatever it is, there's
1348
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:36,288
several Navajo symbols.
1349
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:39,528
And there's actually a Navajo book that
1350
00:55:39,570 --> 00:55:42,888
the front cover has the same type of theory.
1351
00:55:42,930 --> 00:55:45,738
And it's all tied into the Yenaldooshi,
1352
00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:47,512
which is a skin walker.
1353
00:55:47,554 --> 00:55:49,473
That's what the Dine call them.
1354
00:55:50,610 --> 00:55:51,640
And, also, with
1355
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,118
the symbols of the petroglyphs and the pictographs.
1356
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,578
And then, also, obviously, UFO.
1357
00:55:58,620 --> 00:56:00,528
Yeah, the giants is a whole other topic.
1358
00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:04,068
But, you'll see that in the
petroglyphs at Dry Fort Canyon.
1359
00:56:04,110 --> 00:56:06,918
I mean, seven feet plus in height.
1360
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,358
Six digits on the fingers.
1361
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,353
Massively large feet.
1362
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:13,818
So, they say the Sitekawe
1363
00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:16,848
were the redheaded cannibal giants for this area.
1364
00:56:16,890 --> 00:56:18,888
I don't believe they were cannibal,
1365
00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:20,028
but they were head hunters.
1366
00:56:20,070 --> 00:56:21,963
And you can see that in
1367
00:56:22,005 --> 00:56:24,588
the anthropomorphic figures are actually,
1368
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:26,838
have taken heads, trophy heads.
1369
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,301
So, that may be where that came from.
1370
00:56:29,343 --> 00:56:30,783
- That's interesting.
1371
00:56:31,703 --> 00:56:34,818
I've heard of the redheaded giants before.
1372
00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:35,838
And so, now that we know,
1373
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,908
we can visit somewhere where
maybe they were depicted,
1374
00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:40,638
I think it would be worth our
time before we head back home.
1375
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:41,471
- Oh, absolutely.
1376
00:56:41,513 --> 00:56:43,098
Even the three kings, up at the top,
1377
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:44,058
you won't be able to get close.
1378
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:46,578
But, like, with the camera, you'll be able to zoom in.
1379
00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:48,888
Consider the height factor of what you're looking at
1380
00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:50,568
compared to what's around it.
1381
00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:53,412
And there's one anthropomorphic
figure over to the right.
1382
00:56:53,454 --> 00:56:56,898
You'll see the patina is a lot older than the rest of it.
1383
00:56:56,940 --> 00:56:59,208
It's truly an interesting
1384
00:56:59,250 --> 00:57:00,708
rock art piece to look at,
1385
00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:02,500
because that's just telling us that
1386
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:05,808
there was something about
that site that was so important
1387
00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:10,458
that it continued to be worked over and added to.
1388
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,903
And in periods after.
1389
00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:16,578
- [Tony] Had there really been giants here?
1390
00:57:16,620 --> 00:57:19,668
How long has this high strangeness been going on?
1391
00:57:19,710 --> 00:57:21,828
We did, in fact, find a number of petroglyphs
1392
00:57:21,870 --> 00:57:23,928
left by ancient and little understood
1393
00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:26,808
Fremont cliff dwellers near the basin.
1394
00:57:26,850 --> 00:57:29,268
Ancient depictions of giants, shape shifters,
1395
00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:31,908
and even what some would call portals.
1396
00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:34,908
With new layers of context on the basin,
1397
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:37,038
we gathered around coffee to prepare for
1398
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,913
our last night on the property.
1399
00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:42,138
- Going into tonight, I feel like
1400
00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:45,648
my head space is just more understanding,
1401
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:47,508
compared to what it has been the past couple of days.
1402
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:48,978
Spending time with Johnny and Bow,
1403
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:50,508
and understanding their culture,
1404
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:53,148
I understand a little bit more as to
1405
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:55,008
what kind of makes up this area
1406
00:57:55,050 --> 00:57:57,918
and the essence of what's been going on.
1407
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,728
And we'll just, we'll see what happens.
1408
00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:03,198
We'll see what happens tonight with that.
1409
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,990
But, I definitely feel like
1410
00:58:06,090 --> 00:58:09,048
I'm coming from a more educated understanding.
1411
00:58:09,090 --> 00:58:10,968
And, as a result of that,
1412
00:58:11,010 --> 00:58:13,428
I might go through an experience tonight that
1413
00:58:13,470 --> 00:58:15,978
I might view differently than I would've two days ago.
1414
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:17,383
For sure.
1415
00:58:17,425 --> 00:58:19,608
- Yeah, I think I kind of have like a
1416
00:58:19,650 --> 00:58:21,018
patient mindset tonight.
1417
00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:23,658
I was, we came in kind of like guns-a-blazing.
1418
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:25,323
We were excited to get going.
1419
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,068
And, now that we've had that experience
1420
00:58:28,110 --> 00:58:30,588
with talking with both Bow and Johnny,
1421
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:32,298
and others around the area,
1422
00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:35,148
kind of helps to settle that, you know,
1423
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:38,568
that excitement down, but also be knowing that we're
1424
00:58:38,610 --> 00:58:41,388
in the presence of a lot of other things going on.
1425
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:43,788
So, I'm pretty patient.
1426
00:58:43,830 --> 00:58:45,948
- Yeah, so, for me, it's two things.
1427
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:48,288
You know, one was last night around the fireplace
1428
00:58:48,330 --> 00:58:52,308
when Johnny sat there and
told us that he felt like that
1429
00:58:52,350 --> 00:58:54,048
we've come in with reverence and respect.
1430
00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:55,788
And he feels like the people that do that
1431
00:58:55,830 --> 00:58:58,083
tend to see what they have come to see.
1432
00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:01,278
Also, I think, just from a perspective,
1433
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,568
who we are as a team,
1434
00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:04,488
I think that's what we bring to the table.
1435
00:59:04,530 --> 00:59:06,138
We don't come in here just trying to
1436
00:59:06,180 --> 00:59:08,058
stir things up just for the sake of it.
1437
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,848
I think we want to go about it the right way.
1438
00:59:10,890 --> 00:59:13,638
We want to do it in a respectful way and also a safe way.
1439
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,348
But, I feel real good about tonight.
1440
00:59:15,390 --> 00:59:17,748
I've been getting that feeling
since I woke up this morning.
1441
00:59:17,790 --> 00:59:20,673
And I know that place is just
a hot bed ready to explode.
1442
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:23,778
- [Tony] Hearing the experiences of
1443
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:25,398
the people that lived here,
1444
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,518
and having our own strange
encounters earlier in the week,
1445
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,588
we were all excited for what our final night
1446
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:32,358
at Space Wolf would hold.
1447
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,973
Unfortunately, the night took
a turn none of us expected.
1448
00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:39,078
- So, back there, when Jack was saying
1449
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,578
he saw that blue light blinking,
1450
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,048
which is obviously some sort of tower,
1451
00:59:42,090 --> 00:59:43,188
or something like that.
1452
00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:46,518
As we're pulling past, I noticed there was a dirt road
1453
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,478
next to us, and headlights lit up.
1454
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,008
And I said, "Well, that's kind of odd."
1455
00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:52,968
They're on a dirt road.
1456
00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:55,788
There's no, nothing back that way.
1457
00:59:55,830 --> 00:59:57,168
And,
1458
00:59:57,210 --> 00:59:58,608
I started turning around and watching,
1459
00:59:58,650 --> 00:59:59,808
and they slowly pulled out.
1460
00:59:59,850 --> 01:00:01,968
They waited, though, for us to get way down,
1461
01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:03,558
and then they pulled out.
1462
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,958
And they, essentially, followed us.
1463
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,188
And that's why I asked Tony to stop, because
1464
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:11,268
it just seemed odd.
1465
01:00:11,310 --> 01:00:12,498
I wanted to see what they did.
1466
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:14,508
Well, they did come by there,
1467
01:00:14,550 --> 01:00:16,150
but they did slow up by the
1468
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:19,518
entrance to Space Wolf.
1469
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,768
But they kept going, obviously,
'cause they saw us stopped.
1470
01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:24,918
We didn't go all the way back to the campsite.
1471
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,248
So, currently, we are trying to follow them.
1472
01:00:28,290 --> 01:00:29,472
- Joseph just called me.
1473
01:00:29,514 --> 01:00:32,628
So one of you guys could maybe call him.
1474
01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:34,908
- Yeah, somebody call Joseph.
1475
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:36,978
- [Tony] A truck hidden in the high desert
1476
01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:39,738
had evidently been waiting for us to pass.
1477
01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:42,168
When we pulled into the driveway at Space Wolf,
1478
01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:45,258
the following car slowed to a stop at the gate.
1479
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:46,608
When they saw Joel get out of
1480
01:00:46,650 --> 01:00:49,638
the vehicle and acknowledge them, they sped off.
1481
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,233
In the heat of the moment, we decided to follow.
1482
01:00:53,703 --> 01:00:55,518
- Look like they sped up.
1483
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,408
- I'm telling you, man, it's weird.
1484
01:00:57,450 --> 01:00:59,943
There's no, it was like that classic-
1485
01:01:01,581 --> 01:01:03,078
They were in the dark the whole time
1486
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,328
until we came driving by, and then the lights lit up.
1487
01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:06,203
- Yeah.
1488
01:01:10,830 --> 01:01:12,768
Well, that's odd, how far out there he got.
1489
01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:15,198
- Oh, I know, he sped up big time.
1490
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,573
- [Tony] I have a feeling this guy's gonna disappear on us.
1491
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:22,998
- [Ward] Keep an eye out left and right too,
1492
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,108
if he pulled off there.
1493
01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:25,793
- Yeah, look left, look left, look left.
1494
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,628
- There are protectors of that
1495
01:01:32,670 --> 01:01:33,503
sensitive stuff.
1496
01:01:40,285 --> 01:01:43,878
- I mean, you could try follow them into town but-
1497
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,848
- [Tony] Careening down back
roads at speeds of 90 or more,
1498
01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:49,518
the car that had been following got away from us.
1499
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,198
During this chase, however,
1500
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,928
we got a call from Joseph back at our base camp.
1501
01:01:53,970 --> 01:01:56,778
He had stayed behind that
evening, and so had seen that,
1502
01:01:56,820 --> 01:01:59,148
after we pulled out to chase the follow car,
1503
01:01:59,190 --> 01:02:02,748
yet another vehicle had
pulled into Space Wolf driveway.
1504
01:02:02,790 --> 01:02:05,298
And, presumably, would've continued all the way down
1505
01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:07,758
to our campsite if Joseph hadn't flashed
1506
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,893
a strobing tactical flashlight at them.
1507
01:02:10,935 --> 01:02:13,693
- Get ready to text him that we're at the gate.
1508
01:02:15,125 --> 01:02:15,932
- You got it, Christian?
1509
01:02:15,974 --> 01:02:16,911
- Yeah. - Okay.
1510
01:02:16,953 --> 01:02:18,468
- I've never seen a vehicle
1511
01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:20,445
go around corners that fast, though.
1512
01:02:20,487 --> 01:02:22,245
That was that, like it's a pickup truck.
1513
01:02:22,287 --> 01:02:24,376
- Yeah, he was pushing it.
1514
01:02:24,418 --> 01:02:26,643
- He made distance on us.
1515
01:02:29,550 --> 01:02:31,150
- Yeah, I should've went harder.
1516
01:02:32,220 --> 01:02:33,376
- It's kind of hard to do that with
1517
01:02:33,418 --> 01:02:35,313
as much stuff as what we had.
1518
01:02:35,355 --> 01:02:37,443
- Yeah, we got more weight.
1519
01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:40,625
- Well, we'll find out how far this car came down.
1520
01:02:40,667 --> 01:02:42,018
Did it just come in here?
1521
01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:42,851
- Look at that, though,
1522
01:02:42,893 --> 01:02:44,590
you can still see the dust in the air.
1523
01:02:46,557 --> 01:02:47,838
- I mean, that was what I,
1524
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,778
that's what looked, thought
when I saw that car pull out
1525
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:52,968
with, it's the lights went, all you saw was lights.
1526
01:02:53,010 --> 01:02:54,344
- When did you turn the lights on?
1527
01:02:54,386 --> 01:02:56,133
Like, right before he turned in?
1528
01:02:57,077 --> 01:02:59,538
- So, as it turned in, they went off.
1529
01:02:59,580 --> 01:03:02,478
Before it made, completed its turn, rolled in.
1530
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,978
And I thought it was Chester's,
1531
01:03:04,020 --> 01:03:06,738
a friend of Chester's or something, you know?
1532
01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:09,858
And then, he just kept coming, coming, coming.
1533
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:11,238
And I was like-
1534
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,873
I was like, "Oh, no, no, no, no."
1535
01:03:12,915 --> 01:03:14,613
- Did it stop before you did that or after?
1536
01:03:14,655 --> 01:03:16,416
- No, it stopped when I did this.
1537
01:03:16,458 --> 01:03:17,864
- So, like that stopped it?
1538
01:03:17,906 --> 01:03:20,054
- And then, it backed up, and went-
1539
01:03:20,096 --> 01:03:22,375
- Did it back up in a hurry, would you say?
1540
01:03:22,417 --> 01:03:23,505
- No.
1541
01:03:23,547 --> 01:03:25,128
No, because I think
1542
01:03:25,170 --> 01:03:27,090
it figured how far I was away.
1543
01:03:28,050 --> 01:03:29,275
I'm thinking,
1544
01:03:29,317 --> 01:03:32,478
what if those guys, whoever that was, that was a decoy.
1545
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:33,311
- Saw, yeah saw us leave.
1546
01:03:33,353 --> 01:03:36,738
- To pull you guys away, and then somebody comes in here.
1547
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:38,358
Well, this car was like, I mean,
1548
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,936
I would just call it a Camry.
1549
01:03:39,978 --> 01:03:41,358
That kind of car.
1550
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:42,843
You know, like a four-door.
1551
01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:47,088
- Could you tell color, probably not, huh?
1552
01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:48,978
- No, I couldn't, it was too dark.
1553
01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:49,811
See that light?
1554
01:03:49,853 --> 01:03:50,974
That's a motion sensor.
1555
01:03:51,016 --> 01:03:54,048
That's the light that first alerted me to it
1556
01:03:54,090 --> 01:03:55,023
just as it like-
1557
01:03:56,430 --> 01:03:59,538
So, it's probably like 20, 30 or, 60 seconds.
1558
01:03:59,580 --> 01:04:01,758
There you go. - There it goes.
1559
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,258
- 30 seconds.
1560
01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:05,920
- Which means it kicked on after we came in.
1561
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:18,738
- [Tony] Being in a threatening situation
1562
01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:21,198
put a massive damper on the final night.
1563
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,658
We became less worried about the unexplainable,
1564
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:26,478
and more about our own physical security.
1565
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,178
Obviously, someone had wanted into our camp.
1566
01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:31,428
But, for what purpose we don't know.
1567
01:04:31,470 --> 01:04:34,368
Could there have been something
we weren't supposed to know?
1568
01:04:34,410 --> 01:04:36,018
Was it intimidation?
1569
01:04:36,060 --> 01:04:38,913
Or just letting us know we were being watched?
1570
01:04:47,220 --> 01:04:48,918
- We did not bring the K2.
1571
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,147
Just thought of it now.
1572
01:05:00,137 --> 01:05:03,498
- Do you think that there's ancient curses on this land?
1573
01:05:03,540 --> 01:05:05,628
These lands and stuff that might
1574
01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:10,488
attract the activity that has been happening here?
1575
01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:11,880
I mean, we're talking about
1576
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,228
upright walking dogs, giant wolves.
1577
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:16,240
We're talking about
1578
01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:21,558
UFOs, abductions, rake looking type creatures.
1579
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,998
There's so much going on here, in this area.
1580
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,201
Do you think that there could
have been an ancient curse
1581
01:05:28,243 --> 01:05:29,328
put on this land that has been almost
1582
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:31,518
like a magnet for all this stuff?
1583
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,018
- [Ryan] I didn't really know.
1584
01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:35,418
I thought up until the point he was actually,
1585
01:05:35,460 --> 01:05:37,758
they, I don't know if it was a he or she,
1586
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,318
were in the vehicle.
1587
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,228
And I don't even know exactly what it was,
1588
01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:45,048
because I never got a full look at it.
1589
01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:47,080
But it seemed
1590
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:51,528
like an interesting, possibly,
interdimensional type
1591
01:05:51,570 --> 01:05:52,638
now that I look back.
1592
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,663
But it was a very, just,
1593
01:05:56,070 --> 01:05:58,788
for all intents and purposes, what I saw was an
1594
01:05:58,830 --> 01:06:02,823
older Native American in the middle of nowhere.
1595
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,388
- Natives were very resistant to telling anything,
1596
01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:11,028
'cause we didn't want to be diagnosed as crazy.
1597
01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:13,509
That's true, so we kind of kept quiet
1598
01:06:13,551 --> 01:06:16,105
and just kept it among ourselves.
1599
01:06:16,147 --> 01:06:17,809
You know, we didn't really
1600
01:06:17,851 --> 01:06:19,630
talk until recently.
1601
01:06:19,672 --> 01:06:22,038
But then, at the same time, there's,
1602
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,385
no one really asked us either, so, you know?
1603
01:06:26,427 --> 01:06:28,878
- [Tony] But could you define for the audience
1604
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,218
what a skin walker is?
1605
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:33,828
I mean, there's a lot of
people that define it differently.
1606
01:06:33,870 --> 01:06:35,178
I've heard, at least.
1607
01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:38,238
But what would you say a skin walker is?
1608
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,758
- [Ryan] It's a mixture of things.
1609
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,103
And it really depends on what culture is defining it.
1610
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,788
Whether that be
1611
01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:50,148
the Native Americans defining it as a
1612
01:06:50,190 --> 01:06:51,678
skin walker.
1613
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,020
Or a
1614
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,270
dark arts practicing, witchery way following
1615
01:06:58,312 --> 01:07:03,312
dark shaman appear to be something they are not.
1616
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,583
Magic perfectly explained, really.
1617
01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:08,268
- [Tony] In the paranormal community,
1618
01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:11,208
few places elicit as strong an association
1619
01:07:11,250 --> 01:07:14,583
with the truly unexplained
as this cut of high desert.
1620
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,798
Could it be that this place is set apart in some way,
1621
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,168
sacred or desecrated?
1622
01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:25,128
Why are experiences here so common, so vivid?
1623
01:07:25,170 --> 01:07:26,898
Out at the margins of reality,
1624
01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:30,018
questions abound while answers are rare.
1625
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:33,078
It's poetry, not a technical manual.
1626
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,898
What I do know is that, if you listen to the sounds
1627
01:07:35,940 --> 01:07:38,148
that have hung over this place the longest,
1628
01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:41,178
the voices of those with the longest memories,
1629
01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:43,263
you can start to catch the rhythm.
1630
01:07:45,069 --> 01:07:47,902
(Native chanting)
1631
01:08:09,928 --> 01:08:12,761
(Native chanting)
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