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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,833 (Native chanting) 2 00:00:30,037 --> 00:00:32,870 (Native chanting) 3 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:54,150 - All right, you'll be all right. 4 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,958 My grandfather, too, he would tell the same story, 5 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,038 in that same area. 6 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,958 There was a horse, like a horse man. 7 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,078 So, there definitely is that creature out there. 8 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,538 So, they say these things can turn into wolves. 9 00:01:08,580 --> 00:01:11,208 They turn into, you know, different creatures. 10 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:12,956 Cougars or whatever. 11 00:01:12,998 --> 00:01:14,343 Whatever's available. 12 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:17,298 - My name is Tony Merkel. 13 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:19,368 Host of The Confessionals Podcast. 14 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:21,228 I've interviewed over 500 witnesses 15 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:23,358 to the strange and unexplained. 16 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,968 Last year, I assembled a team of like-minded guys 17 00:01:26,010 --> 00:01:28,488 to come with me on a quest to document, 18 00:01:28,530 --> 00:01:30,258 and even possibly experience, 19 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:33,183 some of these mysterious phenomena for ourselves. 20 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,231 - We started getting lights out here over the ridge. 21 00:01:36,273 --> 00:01:37,188 - Here they come again. 22 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:38,148 - Here they come again. 23 00:01:38,190 --> 00:01:40,578 - That gray container 24 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:42,948 was right here. - Correct. 25 00:01:42,990 --> 00:01:44,478 - Look left, look left. 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,311 - Up there? 27 00:01:45,353 --> 00:01:47,238 - They'll come from the west in the sky. 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,318 - So it's old news? 29 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,638 - It's old news, yeah. 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,758 - This kind of stuff is connected in some way. 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,638 - What if those guys, whoever was, that was a decoy. 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,125 - God created everything, including these UFOs. 33 00:01:59,167 --> 00:02:01,938 Including all this phenomena. 34 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:03,817 God created it all. 35 00:02:09,890 --> 00:02:11,508 - [Tony] In the summer of 2022, 36 00:02:11,550 --> 00:02:14,148 the team got a chance at a trip of a lifetime 37 00:02:14,190 --> 00:02:17,358 when a show guest, named Ryan, invited us to his property 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,458 called Space Wolf Research. 39 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:21,738 Located in Utah's Uintah Basin, 40 00:02:21,780 --> 00:02:24,768 at the very doorstep of the infamous Sherman Ranch, 41 00:02:24,810 --> 00:02:27,798 Space Wolf had already produced multiple reports 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,928 and evidence of strange happenings. 43 00:02:29,970 --> 00:02:32,253 From skin walkers to UFOs. 44 00:02:33,979 --> 00:02:38,058 - [Ryan] It's very interesting how I got into an area 45 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:41,418 that ended up being so restricted and locked down 46 00:02:41,460 --> 00:02:44,448 later on, because it was so open back then. 47 00:02:44,490 --> 00:02:45,700 But I had 48 00:02:46,731 --> 00:02:47,568 succumbed to an injury. 49 00:02:47,610 --> 00:02:48,468 I was a fishing guide. 50 00:02:48,510 --> 00:02:51,888 I was driving around, I couldn't work or get my foot wet, 51 00:02:51,930 --> 00:02:54,198 so I was driving around doing stuff. 52 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,123 I was coming down that road. 53 00:02:58,140 --> 00:03:00,558 Something was coming down through there. 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,688 And I was like, "Ah, it looks like an elderly, 55 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:04,128 an elderly Native American." 56 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:06,783 I couldn't tell if it was a he or a she really. 57 00:03:07,890 --> 00:03:10,278 Had a blanket over their head, 58 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,033 and came towards the truck. 59 00:03:12,990 --> 00:03:16,135 And I rolled down the window and said, 60 00:03:16,177 --> 00:03:17,078 "Hey, you want to get in?" 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,768 "Need a ride somewhere?" 62 00:03:18,810 --> 00:03:22,008 They kind of mumbled something and just kind of grumbled in. 63 00:03:22,050 --> 00:03:24,078 Jumped up into the truck. 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,048 And, within seconds, I was just in tears. 65 00:03:27,090 --> 00:03:29,088 I didn't know what was going on. 66 00:03:29,130 --> 00:03:31,743 My reality just totally changed. 67 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:36,678 The Bureau of Indian Affairs found me 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,418 near Bottle Hollow Reservoir, 69 00:03:38,460 --> 00:03:41,808 and I was just kind of hanging outta my truck catatonic. 70 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:43,008 They thought I was drunk. 71 00:03:43,050 --> 00:03:45,828 Did all the tests, they realized I wasn't. 72 00:03:45,870 --> 00:03:47,568 And, asked me what happened. 73 00:03:47,610 --> 00:03:49,578 And, when I told them, they explained to me 74 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:51,885 that I had been nabbed by the skin walker. 75 00:03:51,927 --> 00:03:54,858 And that's the first time I'd ever heard that. 76 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:57,108 - [Tony] Seeking answers after his own encounter, 77 00:03:57,150 --> 00:03:59,778 Ryan would purchase property bordering the Sherman Ranch 78 00:03:59,820 --> 00:04:01,938 in an attempt to create what he would refer to 79 00:04:01,980 --> 00:04:05,328 as a safe haven of sorts for the phenomena. 80 00:04:05,370 --> 00:04:06,438 No guns. 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,578 No threats. 82 00:04:07,620 --> 00:04:09,858 So, Ryan wants to create 83 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,408 a safe haven for all the activity in the area. 84 00:04:12,450 --> 00:04:15,138 So, you know, if this stuff is conscious, 85 00:04:15,180 --> 00:04:16,578 and it's bobbing, and weaving, 86 00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:18,258 and ducking behind bushes or whatever 87 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,163 trying to avoid human contact, 88 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:24,528 well, he wants to create an environment on his properties 89 00:04:24,570 --> 00:04:28,068 where it's just like a place where, consciously, 90 00:04:28,110 --> 00:04:30,768 it's known to be a safe place where nothing's gonna happen. 91 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:32,118 You're not gonna get shot at kind of thing. 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,458 So, whether it's Bigfoot, shadow entities, 93 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:37,398 aliens, UFOs, portals, 94 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,048 they're welcome on his property. 95 00:04:39,090 --> 00:04:40,698 And so, he has a no gun policy. 96 00:04:40,740 --> 00:04:44,028 He doesn't want anybody having guns on the property. 97 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:46,848 Since episode 202, I've become pretty friendly with Ryan, 98 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:48,318 and I just, I respect him. 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,598 So, we're gonna follow his orders and his wishes, 100 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,180 and we're gonna do this 101 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:54,348 gun free. 102 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:55,998 So, it's gonna be interesting. 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,558 Hopefully, nothing too crazy happens 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,518 that we can't handle with a hatchet, but we'll see. 105 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,328 - So, show us the picture that we got. 106 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:06,203 - Oh, yeah. 107 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:12,663 Apparently, Christian's already there. 108 00:05:15,690 --> 00:05:17,988 And, when they got to the ranch, 109 00:05:18,030 --> 00:05:20,628 one of the shipping containers that's on the property 110 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:22,788 was picked up and moved. 111 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:25,878 But there was no drag marks when it was moved. 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,728 And there was no tire tracks, nothing around. 113 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:31,038 It was just mysteriously moved. 114 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,058 So, this is the picture that was sent, right here. 115 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:36,798 - Oh, I got it, I got it. 116 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,353 - That's the picture right there, which is nuts. 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,708 And you can tell there's no drag marks, like it was slid. 118 00:05:45,750 --> 00:05:48,867 It was just picked up in the middle of the night and moved. 119 00:05:48,909 --> 00:05:50,609 There was nothing on the property. 120 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:52,533 So, 121 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:55,308 yeah, this is what we're walking into. 122 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:56,868 Teleporting shipping containers, 123 00:05:56,910 --> 00:05:59,118 and we haven't even got there yet. 124 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,750 So, I feel like we're on track to 125 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:05,320 see some wild stuff, I can tell you that. 126 00:06:13,328 --> 00:06:14,988 - I appreciate your time. 127 00:06:15,030 --> 00:06:15,821 - Oh, thank you. 128 00:06:15,863 --> 00:06:16,728 Yeah, no problem. 129 00:06:16,770 --> 00:06:18,546 No problem, it's part of my duty here. 130 00:06:18,588 --> 00:06:19,878 - Yeah. - You know, I'm security. 131 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:20,711 - Right? 132 00:06:20,753 --> 00:06:23,028 - So, anything that happens out here, 133 00:06:23,070 --> 00:06:25,368 I'm supposed to be on top of it. 134 00:06:25,410 --> 00:06:27,678 - [Ryan] I am absolutely baffled 135 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,790 with how a 9,000 pound container is 136 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,348 moved, 137 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:36,378 not so much as a blade of grass disturbed. 138 00:06:36,420 --> 00:06:37,788 - Because there's no- 139 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:40,218 It looks like it was picked up and moved. 140 00:06:40,260 --> 00:06:41,448 There's no scraping. 141 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:42,878 - Wasn't it by the building? 142 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,768 Right by the building? 143 00:06:43,810 --> 00:06:45,228 - Yeah, it was next to the building, 144 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:46,368 and now it's the other way. 145 00:06:46,410 --> 00:06:47,688 - It's turned, isn't it turned? 146 00:06:47,730 --> 00:06:49,398 - It's completely turned as if it was lifted. 147 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,238 - I just noticed that. 148 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:51,738 I've never seen it out there like that. 149 00:06:51,780 --> 00:06:55,218 - But I came out here and I go, "Oh." 150 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:57,648 - That gray container 151 00:06:57,690 --> 00:06:58,878 was right here. 152 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,138 - Correct. 153 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:03,258 - And there's no skid marks it's been skid by, right? 154 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,658 - That end right there was right there. 155 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:09,498 - I mean, a couple years before, there was a 40 foot RV, 156 00:07:09,540 --> 00:07:14,478 almost exactly where the container was that was vaporized 157 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,433 by what was, apparently, a daytime lightning bolt. 158 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:20,155 - Well, we have pictures of the lightning strike. 159 00:07:20,197 --> 00:07:22,609 Ryan has them, I got 'em too. 160 00:07:22,651 --> 00:07:25,720 And they estimated that a 12 foot bolt 161 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,718 hit the trailer and melted it. 162 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,038 - The lightning was getting kind of close, 163 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,025 and I told my husband, "We better go in the house." 164 00:07:33,067 --> 00:07:33,918 "That's getting pretty close." 165 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,528 And then, boom, it hit right across the street. 166 00:07:36,570 --> 00:07:38,358 And we called the fire department. 167 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,768 And it was melted down, that whole trailer, within seconds. 168 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:44,178 - This 169 00:07:44,220 --> 00:07:45,053 went like this. 170 00:07:46,787 --> 00:07:49,128 - So, it had to be lifted up. 171 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:50,178 Because there's no... But wait. 172 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:52,670 Here's the only, here's a little bit of evidence. 173 00:07:53,912 --> 00:07:57,138 It wasn't lifted that high, 'cause it caught this rock. 174 00:07:57,180 --> 00:07:59,268 Look, it caught that rock, 175 00:07:59,310 --> 00:08:00,979 and it caught this one. 176 00:08:01,021 --> 00:08:03,303 It caught those three. 177 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,218 It caught those rocks and moved them. 178 00:08:07,260 --> 00:08:08,928 But 179 00:08:08,970 --> 00:08:10,428 it had to be up high. 180 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:13,923 - What would it take to melt metal into rock? 181 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:17,493 I mean, would a lightning bolt do that? 182 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:22,158 - [Joseph] All right, so, 183 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,837 we've been here, on location, for, 184 00:08:26,091 --> 00:08:27,528 I don't know, like six hours. 185 00:08:27,570 --> 00:08:28,788 You're gonna freak out when you get here. 186 00:08:28,830 --> 00:08:33,169 There's some stuff that's totally unexplainable already. 187 00:08:33,211 --> 00:08:34,002 - Really? 188 00:08:34,044 --> 00:08:35,538 - [Joseph] That we, yeah, we've had some of the neighbors, 189 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:37,518 they told us stuff that's gonna blow your mind. 190 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:39,561 Let me hear you, let me tell you this. 191 00:08:39,603 --> 00:08:42,378 This is some of the words that we were told. 192 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:44,628 Giant redheaded cannibals. 193 00:08:44,670 --> 00:08:46,008 - Giant redheaded, what? - What? 194 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:46,883 Whoo! 195 00:08:47,941 --> 00:08:48,767 - Hold on a second. 196 00:08:48,809 --> 00:08:50,087 Giant redheaded, what? 197 00:08:50,129 --> 00:08:51,546 - Let's go, baby! 198 00:08:53,963 --> 00:08:55,878 - [Joseph] And one of the, 199 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,588 Johnny, Native American Indian 200 00:08:57,630 --> 00:08:59,268 that we've been hanging out with here, 201 00:08:59,310 --> 00:09:02,969 told us about the giant redheaded cannibals. 202 00:09:03,011 --> 00:09:05,388 You'll learn more about that. 203 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:07,649 Water babies that are evil. 204 00:09:07,691 --> 00:09:08,524 - Yeah. 205 00:09:09,630 --> 00:09:11,898 - [Joseph] And, what do you call 'em? 206 00:09:11,940 --> 00:09:12,859 Star people? 207 00:09:12,901 --> 00:09:16,289 The star people that fly. 208 00:09:16,331 --> 00:09:17,990 - Let's go! 209 00:09:18,032 --> 00:09:19,115 Oh, let's go! 210 00:09:21,792 --> 00:09:23,898 Well, I'm just trying to find some gas 211 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:24,948 before we run out of gas. 212 00:09:24,990 --> 00:09:27,093 Nothing major to see here. 213 00:09:27,930 --> 00:09:29,868 - Where are we, Tony? 214 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:31,218 - I honestly don't know. 215 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:32,538 Kansas, I believe. 216 00:09:32,580 --> 00:09:33,771 - This is WaKeeny. 217 00:09:33,813 --> 00:09:34,604 - WaKeeny? 218 00:09:34,646 --> 00:09:36,738 - This is downtown WaKeeny. 219 00:09:36,780 --> 00:09:39,093 - Downtown WaKeeny is closed. 220 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:40,943 - How we doing? 221 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:42,993 - Oh, fantastic. 222 00:09:44,603 --> 00:09:46,978 Oh. 223 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:48,633 - Yeah? - Fantastic. 224 00:09:50,332 --> 00:09:52,608 - We'll be killed by a serial serial killer 225 00:09:52,650 --> 00:09:53,928 before we even get there. 226 00:09:53,970 --> 00:09:54,931 - Yeah. 227 00:09:54,973 --> 00:09:57,048 - Geez, we're not worried about the skin walkers, 228 00:09:57,090 --> 00:09:58,090 we're worried about, 229 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:01,863 we're worried about getting picked up in WaKeeny by, 230 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,178 by the guy from, so you think, 231 00:10:05,220 --> 00:10:07,218 so I Know What You Did Last Summer, you know? 232 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:09,460 - WaKeeny looks like a 233 00:10:10,380 --> 00:10:12,813 waste, like, there's nothing going on here. 234 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:17,568 I've never seen this empty of a town. 235 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:20,403 - It's what the WaKeeny Whacker wants you to think. 236 00:10:31,770 --> 00:10:32,868 - [Tony] With Christian and Joseph 237 00:10:32,910 --> 00:10:34,278 already reporting sightings, 238 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,318 we raced through the night to get there. 239 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,258 As the rest of the crew continued our 30 hour drive, 240 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:40,878 they settled in for their first night 241 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,828 at Space Wolf Research. 242 00:10:42,870 --> 00:10:44,328 But, as we've always heard, 243 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:47,523 when the sun goes down, the land comes alive. 244 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,503 - I came out here to produce a movie. 245 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,013 I didn't plan on being in a movie. 246 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:58,368 I've seen these shows. 247 00:10:58,410 --> 00:11:00,018 I'm a filmmaker. 248 00:11:00,060 --> 00:11:03,408 But, when you have a real experience, like when we, 249 00:11:03,450 --> 00:11:05,178 when we were looking through the binoculars 250 00:11:05,220 --> 00:11:06,550 and you shot that film 251 00:11:07,410 --> 00:11:09,228 through your 252 00:11:09,270 --> 00:11:10,488 iPhone, 253 00:11:10,530 --> 00:11:12,513 and then, you blew it up. 254 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:14,988 I dunno what that was flying through. 255 00:11:15,030 --> 00:11:16,233 But then, last night, 256 00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:19,953 last night was, that was it, man. 257 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:24,288 I don't, I just, I don't- 258 00:11:24,330 --> 00:11:26,298 Listen, if he doesn't want to pay, I don't know. 259 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:28,068 I need some coffee though, maybe I'll feel different. 260 00:11:28,110 --> 00:11:29,283 But, last night, 261 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:33,288 that was, there was a constant, 262 00:11:33,330 --> 00:11:37,773 it wasn't a hum, it was more like a rolling growl. 263 00:11:38,843 --> 00:11:40,263 Like a- 264 00:11:41,460 --> 00:11:43,863 It was like if the valley was snoring. 265 00:11:44,912 --> 00:11:47,718 It just kept going and going. 266 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,338 So much so, that I got outta my tent 267 00:11:49,380 --> 00:11:51,130 and I went and I slept in my truck. 268 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:53,628 - [Tony] Arriving in Utah, 269 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:57,318 we knew we would be walking into a very active situation. 270 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,678 Not only had Christian and Joseph had a rough first night, 271 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,138 but according to locals, the last few days 272 00:12:03,180 --> 00:12:06,168 had seen a spike in activity on the property. 273 00:12:06,210 --> 00:12:08,568 Finally pulling into our campsite at Space Wolf, 274 00:12:08,610 --> 00:12:11,838 we all felt heaviness and a surreal realization 275 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,478 that we stood on the doorstep of one of the most 276 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,613 infamous hubs of high strangeness in the world. 277 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:22,548 - Well, the first thing we did when we got here is we set up 278 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:24,273 looking out at the mesa there, 279 00:12:25,843 --> 00:12:26,676 the binoculars 280 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:29,988 on a tripod. 281 00:12:30,030 --> 00:12:32,458 And we were just hanging out looking. 282 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:34,248 And I saw, 283 00:12:34,290 --> 00:12:36,140 and you'll see, right across here, is 284 00:12:39,090 --> 00:12:40,878 some big solar panels. 285 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,648 But, from here, at first, it looked like a truck. 286 00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:46,201 And then, there's a big tower- 287 00:12:46,243 --> 00:12:47,718 And, what we figured out is, at night, 288 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,298 it solar panels that charge the light. 289 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:51,918 And so, at night there's a 290 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,268 red light and a white light. 291 00:12:53,310 --> 00:12:54,768 And the white light turns, it blinks. 292 00:12:54,810 --> 00:12:57,138 I think it's so, maybe, some planes don't hit the mesa. 293 00:12:57,180 --> 00:12:58,503 Or I don't know. 294 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:04,135 But we've then, then Christian and I were just like, 295 00:13:04,177 --> 00:13:06,580 "Let's see if we can hold our camera 296 00:13:07,529 --> 00:13:11,585 up to the lens 297 00:13:11,627 --> 00:13:13,938 of the binoculars. 298 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:16,158 And he started shooting. 299 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,448 And then, I said, "Did you get that?" 300 00:13:20,490 --> 00:13:23,298 And an object went down, over, and straight up. 301 00:13:23,340 --> 00:13:25,413 We only got the part of it crossing the, 302 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:27,228 crossing the frame. 303 00:13:27,270 --> 00:13:28,878 Here, I'll show you. 304 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,873 What you're seeing right now is, 305 00:13:32,370 --> 00:13:34,908 this is the binocular circle, 306 00:13:34,950 --> 00:13:36,808 and then the camera pushed up against it, all right? 307 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:37,833 - Okay. - Now, 308 00:13:38,670 --> 00:13:40,278 there's, that's what I'm focusing on. 309 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,168 That's the solar panels with the lights. 310 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:43,308 - Okay. - Right? 311 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:44,141 And, again, we were just like, 312 00:13:44,183 --> 00:13:46,818 "Let's see what this place is like, I have no idea." 313 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:49,083 And, now watch this area right around here. 314 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,350 - Oh, shoot, sorry. 315 00:13:59,230 --> 00:14:00,449 - I saw it. - Oh wow. 316 00:14:00,491 --> 00:14:05,491 - Now, we slow it down. 317 00:14:05,883 --> 00:14:06,716 - Huh. 318 00:14:08,171 --> 00:14:09,171 - Wow. - Wow. 319 00:14:11,442 --> 00:14:13,942 - Now we slow it down again and he pulls in on it. 320 00:14:17,550 --> 00:14:18,550 - Wow, what is that? 321 00:14:21,741 --> 00:14:23,658 Yeah, watch compared to that tree, 322 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:25,233 that whole tree right there. 323 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,148 - Yeah. 324 00:14:35,190 --> 00:14:36,408 - It's pretty big. 325 00:14:36,450 --> 00:14:37,283 - Yeah. - Yeah. 326 00:14:47,790 --> 00:14:48,693 - Wow. - Wow. 327 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:54,528 - Is it looking almost like it's cloaking too. 328 00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:57,168 - But then, once it left frame, it went- 329 00:14:57,210 --> 00:14:58,218 And then, I couldn't see it anymore. 330 00:14:58,260 --> 00:14:59,228 - And you saw it with your naked eye? 331 00:14:59,270 --> 00:15:00,061 - I saw it with a naked guy. 332 00:15:00,103 --> 00:15:02,268 He was holding his camera, that's your camera. 333 00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:04,008 He was holding it there. 334 00:15:04,050 --> 00:15:05,688 And, you know, he, you see how 335 00:15:05,730 --> 00:15:07,138 he's trying to get it to like, 336 00:15:07,180 --> 00:15:09,498 and we were just trying to get to see what this was. 337 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:10,788 To get video of this. 338 00:15:10,830 --> 00:15:13,161 And I went, "Whoa, did you see that?" 339 00:15:13,203 --> 00:15:13,994 And, he goes, "What?" 340 00:15:14,036 --> 00:15:15,978 And he looked back, 'cause he knew something was there. 341 00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:17,808 But I'm like, "It just went through and then up." 342 00:15:17,850 --> 00:15:18,641 - Wow. 343 00:15:18,683 --> 00:15:20,148 You know, and, 344 00:15:20,190 --> 00:15:22,818 just a slightly different angle down lower, 345 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:24,978 we would've not been able to catch that on camera. 346 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:25,811 - Right. 347 00:15:25,853 --> 00:15:27,408 - [Tony] Primed to expect the UFO activity 348 00:15:27,450 --> 00:15:30,258 after seeing what Christian and Joseph had captured, 349 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:32,228 we decided to take a quick hike of the property 350 00:15:32,270 --> 00:15:33,978 before it got dark. 351 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:36,588 As it would turn out, Space Wolf had something 352 00:15:36,630 --> 00:15:39,498 altogether different waiting for us. 353 00:15:39,540 --> 00:15:41,448 - We've been looking at this track way, 354 00:15:41,490 --> 00:15:43,518 and these are 355 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,418 what we're seeing here. 356 00:15:44,460 --> 00:15:46,848 This is obviously footprints going down this way. 357 00:15:46,890 --> 00:15:49,038 This is one that we have, 358 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,708 we feel like has toes involved in it. 359 00:15:51,750 --> 00:15:53,448 And, as it goes down here, 360 00:15:53,490 --> 00:15:55,668 my personal thought is 361 00:15:55,710 --> 00:15:58,848 it's almost as if somebody was standing here in the side 362 00:15:58,890 --> 00:16:00,108 waiting to make sure it's all good. 363 00:16:00,150 --> 00:16:01,758 Like, they were standing this way looking, 364 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,798 and then they turned and started going down this way. 365 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,858 And, as they went down, so like this foot here. 366 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,161 And then, you come out here and it's like one, 367 00:16:10,203 --> 00:16:11,343 two. 368 00:16:12,390 --> 00:16:15,108 And then, as we go here, 369 00:16:15,150 --> 00:16:17,478 now, the footprints, these longer footprints, 370 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,858 are over, they're done. 371 00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:21,048 And, now, we have these hoofs 372 00:16:21,090 --> 00:16:24,828 that develop into the ground here. 373 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:26,898 And, as it goes all the way down here, 374 00:16:26,940 --> 00:16:28,848 we've been able to track it 375 00:16:28,890 --> 00:16:30,828 all the way to the fence. 376 00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:32,988 And almost like it jumped the fence, then, 377 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:36,198 and went through the mound on the other side of the fence. 378 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,388 - Before any of the other stuff popped off, 379 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:41,208 that was the first interaction that we had, 380 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:42,730 that we knew that we were on 381 00:16:43,770 --> 00:16:46,038 some weird, weird stuff. 382 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,123 - What do you guys make of the burns? 383 00:16:49,291 --> 00:16:50,608 - Well, see, that's the weird thing, right? 384 00:16:50,650 --> 00:16:52,758 Like, you're thinking maybe lightning, 385 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,278 but it's just burned all the way down. 386 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,478 - There's another tree over there. 387 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,918 - And it's burnt as well? 388 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,793 Oh, man. 389 00:17:00,510 --> 00:17:03,438 - The lightning along the path is weird. 390 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,368 - It's all over it. 391 00:17:04,410 --> 00:17:05,898 The whole path. 392 00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:08,388 The one thing I will say, is there's no, like, 393 00:17:08,430 --> 00:17:10,755 when lightning hits, it explodes the trees. 394 00:17:10,797 --> 00:17:12,961 And there's no like exploded burned trees. 395 00:17:13,003 --> 00:17:15,168 - Right, it's just like touched and burned. 396 00:17:15,210 --> 00:17:17,417 - Do you think there could be that many lightning strikes? 397 00:17:17,459 --> 00:17:19,761 Like, this close together? 398 00:17:19,803 --> 00:17:23,013 - Yeah, but it's like it's cut with a burn. 399 00:17:26,250 --> 00:17:28,250 Like this is burned through and through. 400 00:17:32,850 --> 00:17:34,038 - Going into a chauffeur? 401 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,195 - That's the poster. 402 00:17:36,237 --> 00:17:37,070 - Out here, 403 00:17:38,460 --> 00:17:40,578 there's all these prints that went over 404 00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:42,438 the mound here. 405 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,138 And, it's just a theory, but that, we found, 406 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:47,251 we followed the tracks coming over to this way. 407 00:17:47,293 --> 00:17:50,055 And it was like something jumped over the fence, 408 00:17:50,097 --> 00:17:51,318 and then went over that. 409 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,718 What doesn't make sense is, if it's an animal, 410 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,938 to me, I would think an animal would go around it. 411 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:58,180 I don't know why an animal would go over it. 412 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,838 So, when we came out here, the whole crew agreed 413 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,538 we wanted to really take the experiential narrative of 414 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:08,238 the Native American people that had lived in this area 415 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,548 for generations and put it front and center, 416 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,858 rather than doing the typical paranormal show thing, 417 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:13,998 with EMF meters 418 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,368 and trying to prove something scientifically. 419 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:18,858 We thought the continued experience of these people 420 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:21,198 was at least as much proof as any amount of 421 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,358 scientific data we could have gathered. 422 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,848 Bow Standing Rock and Johnny Gamiochipi were the two 423 00:18:25,890 --> 00:18:28,578 tribal members that spent the most time with us. 424 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:30,198 And, when we found this set of tracks, 425 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,968 we were careful to ask each of them 426 00:18:32,010 --> 00:18:33,348 to look at it independently, 427 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:36,588 so that one couldn't unintentionally sway the other. 428 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:39,228 - So, before we get down in here, and tell you, 429 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:42,228 and show you what we found, 430 00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:44,268 can you just tell me a little bit 431 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:45,648 how you feel about this area? 432 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:48,486 Because, I know up there you said it kind of felt heavy. 433 00:18:48,528 --> 00:18:50,688 - Yeah, just more heavier. 434 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:52,841 I think the more closer we get to around this area, 435 00:18:52,883 --> 00:18:54,798 I think I just get more nervous. 436 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,418 - Because of the drill? 437 00:18:56,460 --> 00:18:57,251 - Something, yeah. 438 00:18:57,293 --> 00:18:58,548 - Okay. - I don't know. 439 00:18:58,590 --> 00:19:02,778 - So, right down this trail is where the series of prints 440 00:19:02,820 --> 00:19:06,926 start, that Joel and Ward found. 441 00:19:06,968 --> 00:19:08,778 And so, we're gonna show you this, 442 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:10,455 and then we're gonna come down here 443 00:19:10,497 --> 00:19:12,678 and I'm gonna show you what we found 444 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,657 with these tree branches that seems pretty bizarre. 445 00:19:16,699 --> 00:19:17,973 - All right. 446 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,010 - But you're gonna see more of this scorched. 447 00:19:23,970 --> 00:19:24,803 - Yeah. 448 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:27,363 That's interesting. 449 00:19:29,370 --> 00:19:30,408 - Look at these prints here. 450 00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:31,743 This is crazy, right? 451 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:35,568 - And as you go through here, 452 00:19:35,610 --> 00:19:37,134 they're deep flat. 453 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:38,283 And, look, right here. 454 00:19:41,336 --> 00:19:41,936 - Oh, man. 455 00:19:52,397 --> 00:19:54,033 - Let's see. 456 00:19:54,075 --> 00:19:55,908 Right here it changes. 457 00:19:58,008 --> 00:19:59,718 He's going this way. 458 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,593 - We think so. 459 00:20:02,430 --> 00:20:03,530 - He's going this way. 460 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,273 - Wow. 461 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:11,558 - So, it- 462 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,788 Do you see what we're looking at here? 463 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:16,323 As far as like, that it- 464 00:20:17,197 --> 00:20:19,578 We want you to kind of give us your perspective, 465 00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:21,983 'cause we don't wanna be making something out of nothing. 466 00:20:26,736 --> 00:20:28,551 - This is what I noticed. 467 00:20:28,593 --> 00:20:31,018 It's what we're casting tomorrow. 468 00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:33,303 - Like, you could see how these, 469 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:36,288 like, this one to me looks like a hoof almost. 470 00:20:36,330 --> 00:20:38,574 Like, almost like a horse or something. 471 00:20:38,616 --> 00:20:39,407 - It does. 472 00:20:39,449 --> 00:20:40,923 - And then, there's the canine. 473 00:20:41,910 --> 00:20:44,823 - Th canine one's over there and it keeps going. 474 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:49,938 The left side, I think, is different than the right. 475 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:52,338 - Where, can you show me what you're pointing at? 476 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:56,223 - So, it has this step and that step, and it's a step there. 477 00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:00,138 - But it's weird, though, how the 478 00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:02,838 almost humanoid prints disappeared though. 479 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,671 - Yeah. 480 00:21:03,713 --> 00:21:05,808 - They don't exist anymore in this range. 481 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:07,143 - Around that area. 482 00:21:08,933 --> 00:21:10,968 As soon as it kind of gets into the clearing, you know? 483 00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:12,004 - Right. 484 00:21:12,046 --> 00:21:13,848 - As soon as it comes out of the brush. 485 00:21:13,890 --> 00:21:15,123 Then it gets into these. 486 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,948 Like, it's hidden, where you can't see it, 487 00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:21,018 even if you're over here, right there. 488 00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:22,998 But, as soon as it comes out, 489 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,718 you don't see a person walking, you see a, whatever it is. 490 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,593 - Right. 491 00:21:32,730 --> 00:21:35,501 - That, though, I don't know. 492 00:21:35,543 --> 00:21:37,038 - What do you, what do you, I mean like- 493 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,738 - Transfer, this change like you were telling me. 494 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:41,418 I knew exactly what you're talking about, 495 00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:43,218 'cause we've seen things 496 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:44,398 similar to that before. 497 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,348 - Yeah? - Yeah. 498 00:21:45,390 --> 00:21:48,528 - Like, it stops there, and then it gradually, 499 00:21:48,570 --> 00:21:52,968 as soon as it hits that point, and then it comes into these. 500 00:21:53,010 --> 00:21:54,260 - Have you ever heard of- 501 00:21:56,850 --> 00:21:58,700 Have you ever heard of shape shifters 502 00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:03,408 transforming into horses? 503 00:22:03,450 --> 00:22:04,488 - Yeah, tons of things. 504 00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:05,535 - So it's just- 505 00:22:05,577 --> 00:22:06,558 - Birds. - Just pretty much anything? 506 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Any kind of animal it'd want to? 507 00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:12,603 - Now, you said that 508 00:22:12,645 --> 00:22:15,798 shape shifters can turn into horses. 509 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,673 - Yeah. 510 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,698 - We've been finding what seems to be 511 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:22,578 a lot of horse manure all over the place here. 512 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:24,168 - And you hardly see horses around here. 513 00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:25,551 - We haven't seen one horse. - Exactly. 514 00:22:25,593 --> 00:22:27,353 - And, actually, 515 00:22:27,395 --> 00:22:29,538 there's a fresh pile next to the tree 516 00:22:29,580 --> 00:22:31,098 that we just came in by, 517 00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:33,468 and I just don't know if it's horse manure or not. 518 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:35,538 But, like, it looks, 519 00:22:35,580 --> 00:22:37,254 I'm not touching it with my hands. 520 00:22:37,296 --> 00:22:40,578 But it looks fresh, and it wasn't there just the other day. 521 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:44,778 - Like, going back to my history, my family history, 522 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:47,110 my grandfather would transform into 523 00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:49,098 many different things. 524 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:50,050 Whatever the 525 00:22:51,210 --> 00:22:53,028 circumstance that he needed. 526 00:22:53,070 --> 00:22:56,568 You know, sometimes he would transform into a fox, coyote. 527 00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:57,858 You know, a horse. 528 00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:00,948 - So, like, as people who aren't from here and stuff, 529 00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:03,408 I mean, we're not making a stretch or a leap here 530 00:23:03,450 --> 00:23:04,998 by just by seeing that? 531 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,873 Obviously, 532 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,078 you know, we're out here looking for shape shifter. 533 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,508 But, I mean, to come across that just, 534 00:23:11,550 --> 00:23:13,368 where'd the human prints go? 535 00:23:13,410 --> 00:23:15,569 And where'd this horse pop up out of nowhere? 536 00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:16,893 - Yeah. 537 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:19,758 Well, you can look at it like this. 538 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,633 You know, 539 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,723 why would these guys be out here doing this stuff, you know? 540 00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:29,181 It's just like, 541 00:23:30,342 --> 00:23:31,548 that's what I see. 542 00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:33,348 They transform, that's what they do. 543 00:23:33,390 --> 00:23:35,343 They come out to places like this. 544 00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:37,893 And I mean- 545 00:23:38,993 --> 00:23:40,728 I even, I don't like to talk about it too much, 546 00:23:40,770 --> 00:23:42,918 'cause it sounds like it's really ridiculous. 547 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,751 But that's what they do. 548 00:23:43,793 --> 00:23:47,050 They transform themselves into whatever entity, the animal 549 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,997 that they're trying to embody. 550 00:23:53,504 --> 00:23:55,368 - And there's a lot of stories of 551 00:23:55,410 --> 00:23:57,528 the Native Americans who used to 552 00:23:57,570 --> 00:24:00,048 transform into those things would become birds and 553 00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:01,488 fly over the forts and stuff. 554 00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:03,550 And, you know, scout out 555 00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:09,078 viewpoints and reference points for their tribal usage, 556 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:09,953 so they could, 557 00:24:10,995 --> 00:24:14,628 you know, easily maneuver around those kinds of areas. 558 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:17,448 - So, that's, it's not ridiculous because 559 00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:20,058 why are these transformation points out here? 560 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,198 You know, people run across them all the time. 561 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,142 A lot of people don't know what they are, you know? 562 00:24:24,184 --> 00:24:27,051 But that's what they're doing here. 563 00:24:27,093 --> 00:24:29,328 You know, we've had 'em like right near our homes. 564 00:24:29,370 --> 00:24:32,358 Like tribal members have seen these transformations. 565 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,658 You know, have stumbled upon 'em out in the bush somewhere. 566 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:38,328 So, we know these things take place. 567 00:24:38,370 --> 00:24:39,648 We don't talk about 'em. 568 00:24:39,690 --> 00:24:42,228 And when we do, more times than not, 569 00:24:42,270 --> 00:24:45,378 people think we're crazy, you know, crazy Indians. 570 00:24:45,420 --> 00:24:47,898 But that's what occurs here is these things. 571 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:50,268 And, now, you get to see some of the things. 572 00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:52,848 But, yeah, that would be one of the signs 573 00:24:52,890 --> 00:24:56,223 that you would look for, is something transformational. 574 00:24:57,660 --> 00:24:59,478 - [Tony] Finding a track way like this so early 575 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,218 was really unexpected. 576 00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:03,378 But having both Bow and Johnny sharing 577 00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:05,508 very similar perspectives really gave it 578 00:25:05,550 --> 00:25:07,728 a lot more credibility in our mind. 579 00:25:07,770 --> 00:25:09,678 Especially given that, a day prior, 580 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,138 Christian and Joseph had interviewed a neighbor 581 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:13,338 that actually reported watching 582 00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:16,428 an entity of some sort enter the property. 583 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:20,073 - Have you had any weird, seen weird things or- 584 00:25:20,115 --> 00:25:20,906 - I have. 585 00:25:20,948 --> 00:25:23,088 I never used to believe in what they call skin walkers. 586 00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:25,488 And, just right down the hill, 587 00:25:25,530 --> 00:25:26,478 I was coming the other direction, 588 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,558 you know where it comes up to the, 589 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,950 almost the top of the hill? 590 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:32,298 There come this big wolf with legs this long, 591 00:25:32,340 --> 00:25:33,288 and it was pure black. 592 00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:35,328 And, its eyes, I can't describe as anything 593 00:25:35,370 --> 00:25:37,488 except for like light in a light bulb, 594 00:25:37,530 --> 00:25:38,321 but it was more like heat. 595 00:25:38,363 --> 00:25:39,558 It didn't have pupils or anything. 596 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,658 And it just wanted me to see it. 597 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:43,458 And, you know, I mean it was looking at me the whole time, 598 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,018 and it wasn't even really touching the ground. 599 00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:47,745 But yet it was walking, and it's so hard to describe it. 600 00:25:47,787 --> 00:25:49,725 And it gives me chills too just to talk about it. 601 00:25:49,767 --> 00:25:52,068 But it wasn't a scary thing to me. 602 00:25:52,110 --> 00:25:53,838 And, it did, it just wanted me to see it. 603 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,008 It kept looking at me, 604 00:25:55,050 --> 00:25:56,638 and then it just disappeared across the road. 605 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,388 And I was like, "Wow, that is strange." 606 00:25:59,430 --> 00:26:00,468 And now I have a little bit 607 00:26:00,510 --> 00:26:01,878 more open mind for stuff like that. 608 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,018 - Have you seen- 609 00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,268 Is that the only time you've ever seen a wolf out here? 610 00:26:05,310 --> 00:26:06,108 - Yeah. 611 00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:07,635 That's the only time I've ever seen anything like that. 612 00:26:07,677 --> 00:26:09,198 And I honestly didn't believe anybody. 613 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,028 I would take a lie detector test about that, 614 00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:13,143 because, I mean, I did see it. 615 00:26:14,187 --> 00:26:15,198 And I never believed stuff like that. 616 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,398 - Did you see any wild animals out here, 617 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,508 or anything like that? 618 00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:18,640 - No, just 619 00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:21,953 there's a lot of noise out here. 620 00:26:21,995 --> 00:26:23,054 I mean, all night long. 621 00:26:23,096 --> 00:26:24,518 - There are strange noises. 622 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,848 - It not- 623 00:26:25,890 --> 00:26:27,528 With the oil fields and everything else, 624 00:26:27,570 --> 00:26:30,753 and the traffic now from the oil fields, 625 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:35,598 I know pretty much what I'm hearing from around here. 626 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,928 But, inside of this house, just right here, 627 00:26:38,970 --> 00:26:41,118 you're always hearing somebody outside. 628 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,578 I mean, if it's walking in the gravel, 629 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:45,820 or just 630 00:26:47,130 --> 00:26:48,888 out in my yard. 631 00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:49,721 - There's never anything there. 632 00:26:49,763 --> 00:26:50,628 - Constantly getting up and going, 633 00:26:50,670 --> 00:26:52,305 checking the door all the time. 634 00:26:52,347 --> 00:26:54,828 And just looking out and seeing if I see anybody out there, 635 00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:57,228 and never really is. 636 00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:59,388 - Do you feel like there could be any connection 637 00:26:59,430 --> 00:27:01,638 between that and this- 638 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,045 - I do. - Property out here? 639 00:27:03,087 --> 00:27:04,713 And the walking around? 640 00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:08,568 - Yeah, there's something going on outside all the time. 641 00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:10,608 - Seems like it's a paranormal 642 00:27:10,650 --> 00:27:13,523 dimension of some type of something, to me, you know? 643 00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:14,398 I mean, 644 00:27:16,110 --> 00:27:18,948 I don't understand a whole bunch about that kind of stuff, 645 00:27:18,990 --> 00:27:20,328 but that's what I would take it as. 646 00:27:20,370 --> 00:27:21,738 I'm not an expert or anything, 647 00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:24,438 but I would take it, definitely, something 648 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,930 that is 649 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,928 not necessarily of this world but, yet, 650 00:27:29,970 --> 00:27:32,448 you know, it is, but it isn't. Because it's obviously here. 651 00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:34,638 I mean, that wolf thing was nothing but a shadow. 652 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,613 But it was in, you know, it was- 653 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:39,495 I always lose the ability to talk about it, 654 00:27:39,537 --> 00:27:42,498 because it's so hard to describe or whatever. 655 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:44,628 He was just like a shadow, but it wasn't a shadow. 656 00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:46,098 You could see it clear as day. 657 00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:47,628 And, as soon as, you know, I looked at it, 658 00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:49,188 and my head followed it across the street, 659 00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:51,280 I mean, it just disappeared, it was gone. 660 00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:56,118 - [Tony] As night fell, we had no idea what lay 661 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,538 waiting for us outside the reach of the fire's light 662 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,268 until an accidental discovery confirmed 663 00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:05,898 we had somehow landed right at ground zero. 664 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:07,848 We might be in for a long night. 665 00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:08,681 - Why? 666 00:28:08,723 --> 00:28:10,593 - We might be in for a long couple nights. 667 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,248 We went down that trail where we saw the prints. 668 00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:19,758 And we went back further looking for a place to 669 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,798 put the game trail cams. 670 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,328 We went across, we found a little bridge 671 00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:25,518 to go back across the creek. 672 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,838 And we went back across the creek, 673 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,178 and went down around, 'cause we saw a tree that 674 00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:32,178 would be a good spot to look over the trail. 675 00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:33,498 I'm starting to hang it. 676 00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:34,413 And, Ward, 677 00:28:37,805 --> 00:28:38,928 he walks away. 678 00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:41,035 And I turn around and look over, and I said to him, 679 00:28:41,077 --> 00:28:41,898 "Is that what I think it is?" 680 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:44,778 And he's like, "Yep," and he's standing there. 681 00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:46,150 And what I saw 682 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:49,763 I thought was a skull. 683 00:28:49,805 --> 00:28:53,014 Like an antlers and stuff, you know? 684 00:28:53,056 --> 00:28:54,138 And so, I was like, "Oh," you know? 685 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:56,443 And I turned to him and I said, 686 00:28:56,485 --> 00:29:00,078 "It's kind of a little, getting a little eerie back here." 687 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,578 And he's like, "Yep." 688 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:05,628 And, when I got done hanging the camera, 689 00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:07,488 he's now standing next to me, 690 00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:08,538 and we're getting ready to walk away. 691 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:09,918 And I was like, lemme go check this out real quick, 692 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,310 because I wanted to see it. 693 00:29:12,357 --> 00:29:14,688 When I walked up close to it, 694 00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:16,233 I didn't realize at the time, 695 00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:19,728 was it was a ritual circle. 696 00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:22,398 And it had a couple different skulls. 697 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,468 It had a bowl in the middle of it. 698 00:29:24,510 --> 00:29:26,418 And these are the, this is what it looked like. 699 00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:27,483 Just pass it around. 700 00:29:30,390 --> 00:29:32,088 There's a couple of pictures you can swipe through. 701 00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:34,398 - It ties in with that 702 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,098 last story I told you in the interview. 703 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:39,683 With the rituals that have been happening around here. 704 00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:44,903 - It was literally... Whoa. 705 00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:48,078 - It was literally maybe like 30, 40 feet away 706 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,843 from where we were walking around this afternoon 707 00:29:50,885 --> 00:29:53,373 on the other side of the creek. 708 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,388 - So, I wonder if that's connected 709 00:29:56,430 --> 00:29:57,865 to what we saw with the footprints. 710 00:29:57,907 --> 00:29:58,923 - That way or that way? - That way. 711 00:29:58,965 --> 00:29:59,756 - That way. 712 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:00,589 - So I wonder if it's connected with 713 00:30:00,631 --> 00:30:01,635 what we saw with the footprints? 714 00:30:01,677 --> 00:30:02,510 - Maybe. 715 00:30:03,405 --> 00:30:04,238 - Yeah. 716 00:30:08,416 --> 00:30:09,694 - Be careful with that. 717 00:30:09,736 --> 00:30:11,178 Stay away. 718 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:13,158 - How recent would you say that is? 719 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,268 - Could be an ongoing thing. 720 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:16,403 It looks like it's been a while probably. 721 00:30:16,445 --> 00:30:19,338 So, it might be like this. 722 00:30:19,380 --> 00:30:22,698 Maybe Ryan interrupted one of their spots. 723 00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:26,418 This was their spot before he moved in, see? 724 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:30,438 So, maybe, in their mind, he's intruding on these, 725 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,478 the people who own this are intruding on their deal. 726 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,843 In their view. 727 00:30:36,885 --> 00:30:40,465 So this might be just a statement of some sort. 728 00:30:40,507 --> 00:30:42,563 "We're here and we're gonna stay here," 729 00:30:42,605 --> 00:30:44,118 or something like that. 730 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,108 It's a warfare. 731 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:47,465 It's a form of warfare. 732 00:30:47,507 --> 00:30:48,828 You know, if you really think about it, 733 00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:50,448 that's what it was utilized for. 734 00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:52,998 So, when you see those things, that's, 735 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,348 when our people see that. 736 00:30:54,390 --> 00:30:56,643 That's a sign of war against you. 737 00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:59,118 They've invaded you, 738 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,128 and they've done their thing on your land. 739 00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:03,018 They put their flag there, right? 740 00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:04,515 That's what they've done. 741 00:31:04,557 --> 00:31:08,985 - And you believe this connects with the possible prints? 742 00:31:09,027 --> 00:31:09,894 - It does. 743 00:31:09,936 --> 00:31:11,795 - It does connect? - It does, yeah. 744 00:31:11,837 --> 00:31:13,935 - Yeah, you guys are in it now. 745 00:31:13,977 --> 00:31:16,923 - You know, it almost looks like a crown of thorns. 746 00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:18,971 Whoa. 747 00:31:19,013 --> 00:31:20,633 - It was a little too dark to see what was- 748 00:31:21,517 --> 00:31:23,395 - You guys gotta take me down there. 749 00:31:23,437 --> 00:31:26,363 - Not tonight. - Not tonight? 750 00:31:26,405 --> 00:31:28,788 - That's unbelievable man. 751 00:31:28,830 --> 00:31:30,348 Get that, here, get, I don't want it. 752 00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:31,653 I'll go wash my hands. 753 00:31:33,397 --> 00:31:34,188 - Wow. 754 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:37,523 - Hey, we've got a light coming up from the mesa. 755 00:31:37,565 --> 00:31:38,873 - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 756 00:31:38,915 --> 00:31:41,534 We've got a light above the mesa. 757 00:31:41,576 --> 00:31:43,243 Grab the binoculars. 758 00:31:51,387 --> 00:31:53,478 - You might need to get your Ace out here. 759 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,870 I'm not quite sensitive enough to pick that up. 760 00:31:56,944 --> 00:31:57,902 - Its going. - Oh, man. 761 00:31:57,944 --> 00:32:00,043 - It's gone. - It's gone. 762 00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:01,123 - That was a big light. 763 00:32:01,165 --> 00:32:02,501 - I got it on camera. - You got it? 764 00:32:02,543 --> 00:32:03,783 - I got a picture of it. 765 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,591 - Whatever that was- 766 00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:07,843 - Well, there's something's still lit up there, though. 767 00:32:07,885 --> 00:32:10,188 There's none of this last night. 768 00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:11,925 - Oh! - You see it? 769 00:32:11,967 --> 00:32:13,113 - Oh, my god. 770 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:17,418 There is something pulsating like crazy. 771 00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:18,593 - Oh, you're looking at over here? 772 00:32:18,635 --> 00:32:19,788 - I'm seeing, yeah. 773 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:20,718 - It's over here too, though. 774 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,248 - Yes, it's going nuts this time. 775 00:32:22,290 --> 00:32:24,102 Oh, man, they're both going nuts. 776 00:32:24,144 --> 00:32:27,708 - All right, so I was talking to you guys earlier about 777 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:29,868 the ritual circle, and how things started 778 00:32:29,910 --> 00:32:31,512 heating up here when 779 00:32:31,554 --> 00:32:33,918 we started talking to the group about it. 780 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,528 Well, we started getting lights out here over the ridge, 781 00:32:36,570 --> 00:32:37,938 and they've been nonstop, Joel. 782 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:38,928 - Oh, man, here they come again. 783 00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:40,793 - Here they come again. 784 00:32:40,835 --> 00:32:43,160 - Oh, man, it's huge. 785 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,773 Wow. 786 00:32:52,344 --> 00:32:56,534 - Right there, look there, what's this one here? 787 00:32:56,576 --> 00:32:57,826 Straight ahead. 788 00:33:01,555 --> 00:33:03,348 - What are you seeing out here? 789 00:33:03,390 --> 00:33:04,638 Just describe to them what's going on. 790 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,758 - So, there's these red and white lights, 791 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,978 and they're pulsating in the non rhythmic pattern. 792 00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:12,498 So, they're just moving in this one spot, 793 00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:14,718 but they're not showing up in the same place at all. 794 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,548 And, sometimes, they're getting super bright. 795 00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:18,738 And then, sometimes, they're not as bright. 796 00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:20,508 But it's, they're not in the same slot, 797 00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:23,478 so you know, it's not a stationary light 798 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,128 that's out there for 799 00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:26,121 planes or anything like that. 800 00:33:26,163 --> 00:33:28,038 This is completely different. 801 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,571 We've seen lights pulsating throughout the ridge too. 802 00:33:29,613 --> 00:33:30,978 - On the ridge, yep. 803 00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:34,038 - So it's just popped up right around the time 804 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,598 they found this like ritual circle. 805 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,768 - And that's where it started. 806 00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:37,878 These lights on the ridge, 807 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,368 way over to where we're, from where we're looking now, 808 00:33:40,410 --> 00:33:42,978 was shining up into the sky. 809 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:43,977 - Oh! - Whoa! 810 00:33:44,019 --> 00:33:44,810 - Oh! 811 00:33:44,852 --> 00:33:47,054 - Whoa, that just lit up. - There it is, that's it. 812 00:33:47,096 --> 00:33:47,887 - That just lit up. 813 00:33:47,929 --> 00:33:48,720 - That's what I've been saying. 814 00:33:48,762 --> 00:33:49,914 - Yep, and now it's gone, right? 815 00:33:49,956 --> 00:33:52,188 - Oh, here they come. - Oh, yep, yep. 816 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:53,118 All right, let's not yell too loud, 817 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,798 'cause I don't want them hearing us over there. 818 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,208 - Oh, my god. - That's gone. 819 00:33:56,250 --> 00:33:57,858 But there's two more over there, onto the right, 820 00:33:57,900 --> 00:33:58,691 and it's moving. 821 00:33:58,733 --> 00:33:59,524 Yep, I see it now. 822 00:33:59,566 --> 00:34:00,648 I see it now. 823 00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,238 Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about, bro. 824 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,668 - Yeah, but there's a red one that jumps in with 'em. 825 00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:05,911 - Well, I can't see color on this. 826 00:34:05,953 --> 00:34:08,531 - Yeah, this is crazy. But both of those were white. 827 00:34:08,573 --> 00:34:10,323 - But you see those two still right there, right? 828 00:34:10,365 --> 00:34:11,785 You still see the two? 829 00:34:11,827 --> 00:34:14,568 Okay, oh, and look like- 830 00:34:14,610 --> 00:34:16,818 - That has nothing to do with that red one, though. 831 00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:17,868 - That's blue, that's blue. 832 00:34:17,910 --> 00:34:19,608 It's gone. - It's gone. 833 00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:21,134 - Man, this thing is bright. 834 00:34:21,176 --> 00:34:23,755 - What are we looking at? 835 00:34:23,797 --> 00:34:25,003 What is that? 836 00:34:25,045 --> 00:34:26,518 - I have no idea. - What the heck? 837 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,458 - Hang on a sec, I gotta get this one 838 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,105 that I can get on the camera here. 839 00:34:30,147 --> 00:34:31,188 - No, they're everywhere. 840 00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:34,038 You're not gonna have that many planes in the sky. 841 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,908 - Not that close together. 842 00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:36,100 - Yo, these are moving. 843 00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:40,638 What is that in the sky, guys? 844 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,538 - Look where the plane's at, 845 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,488 but look at the other one right there by it. 846 00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:45,708 - Joel, you gotta come here and look at my camera, bro. 847 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:46,541 - Oh, shit. 848 00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:48,408 - Let me see this pattern. 849 00:34:48,450 --> 00:34:49,283 - Where is it? 850 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,858 - [Tony] After recording sightings in the sky 851 00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:54,288 we could not explain, we started to wonder 852 00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:56,658 if the stories of the activity in the area 853 00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:58,758 being intelligent were true. 854 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,548 It really seemed to us, as we were there living it, 855 00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:03,498 that the discovery of this altar 856 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:05,778 and our attention on it at the campfire 857 00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:09,438 might have kicked off all this phenomena in the sky. 858 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,568 - All right, so me and the whole crew 859 00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:13,778 are going down to the ritual site right now. 860 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,384 It is nighttime. 861 00:35:15,426 --> 00:35:19,158 And we're gonna go check it out and see what happens. 862 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,538 Because 863 00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:22,518 our natural reaction is to kind of just 864 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,868 stay next to the fire. 865 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:24,948 I think that's human. 866 00:35:24,990 --> 00:35:27,078 And so, we're gonna go against our reactions 867 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,908 and our inclinations, 868 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:32,465 and go check out this ritual circle at nighttime. 869 00:35:32,507 --> 00:35:35,340 (brush crunching) 870 00:35:48,136 --> 00:35:49,606 - Oh, there's quarters there. 871 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:50,481 - Yep. 872 00:35:52,016 --> 00:35:52,985 - Crystals. 873 00:35:53,027 --> 00:35:55,155 - Multiple skulls. 874 00:35:55,197 --> 00:35:56,030 Jawbone. 875 00:35:58,488 --> 00:35:59,491 - What's this? 876 00:35:59,533 --> 00:36:00,324 There's 877 00:36:00,366 --> 00:36:01,248 some kind of seeds. 878 00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:02,081 - That's another offering. 879 00:36:02,123 --> 00:36:03,384 - Don't touch too much, though, 880 00:36:03,426 --> 00:36:04,446 I don't want anything touched right now. 881 00:36:04,488 --> 00:36:05,298 - Don't touch it. 882 00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:07,023 - It still has skin on the skull. 883 00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:13,098 And Bow would know more than I do, but 884 00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:14,568 these are probably an offering. 885 00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:16,818 The seeds on the side of it. 886 00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:18,618 The orientation of it's important. 887 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:21,861 So, if we knew which way north, west, south, 888 00:36:21,903 --> 00:36:24,468 so this is probably north. 889 00:36:24,510 --> 00:36:26,060 - Keep your ears open. - Yeah. 890 00:36:30,896 --> 00:36:34,229 - That's as much as it can do right now. 891 00:36:41,287 --> 00:36:43,728 - Yeah, no, I heard movements too. 892 00:36:43,770 --> 00:36:44,561 - You heard movements? 893 00:36:44,603 --> 00:36:45,708 - Yeah, we heard cracking. 894 00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:46,947 Yeah, that way. 895 00:36:50,805 --> 00:36:52,555 - All right, lets go. 896 00:36:53,633 --> 00:36:54,466 What? 897 00:36:57,977 --> 00:37:00,888 - Almost like a rat, we don't see anything. 898 00:37:00,930 --> 00:37:01,763 It was- 899 00:37:03,390 --> 00:37:04,223 Where? 900 00:37:05,777 --> 00:37:08,444 (ominous music) 901 00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:14,988 - [Tony] After a wild first night, 902 00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:16,668 we wanted to get Johnny's perspective 903 00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:18,168 on the area in general, 904 00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:20,358 and what could lie behind the strange things 905 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,738 that seemed to manifest there. 906 00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:22,683 - Several years. 907 00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:26,530 Yeah, it's just always been an amazing place 908 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,588 when it comes to those types of paranormal, 909 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:31,863 you know, activities. 910 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:35,718 But it's just been ongoing ever since I was a kid. 911 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,773 You know, we're told all these stories, 912 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,178 and warnings, and all sorts of things. 913 00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,765 So, we live by those things a lot. 914 00:37:43,807 --> 00:37:47,050 The outside is just kind of starting to figure out 915 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:50,088 and take notice of what we've been noticing, 916 00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:52,068 probably, for thousands of years. 917 00:37:52,110 --> 00:37:54,258 - We, yesterday we were checking out what, 918 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:56,958 we were just, for us, calling a boneyard. 919 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,158 And we were followed back to where we were staying 920 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,688 by a guy that saw us there. 921 00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:04,038 - Oh, wow. 922 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,268 - And he even stopped at the end of the driveway 923 00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:07,068 that we turned into and just stared at my vehicle 924 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:07,935 as I was pulling in. 925 00:38:07,977 --> 00:38:09,558 And I didn't know if it was something that like 926 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,235 people noticed if you're not from around here 927 00:38:11,277 --> 00:38:12,888 and they kind of just follow you to make sure 928 00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:15,633 you're up to, not up to any, you know, problems. 929 00:38:17,024 --> 00:38:17,857 - Yeah, yeah. 930 00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:23,148 I'll tell you this, like, okay, so, you're in a bone yard. 931 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:26,733 I don't know exactly what you've seen or where it was, 932 00:38:30,187 --> 00:38:32,290 but when we talk about one specific 933 00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:36,558 activity, is the skin walker. 934 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,968 I call it a cult, basically. 935 00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:39,040 It's a bad 936 00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:42,348 spiritual, bad, evil is, 937 00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:44,703 basically that's what we consider to be. 938 00:38:45,988 --> 00:38:47,103 And it's a bad energy. 939 00:38:48,060 --> 00:38:50,718 You know, there's a lot of that activity that goes around. 940 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,840 And those are actually physical humans 941 00:38:54,348 --> 00:38:56,178 who go through that process. 942 00:38:56,220 --> 00:38:59,598 In essence, they're like werewolves, okay? 943 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,083 However they became, there's all sorts of different ways. 944 00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:07,506 And it's not specific to one tribe. 945 00:39:07,548 --> 00:39:09,348 It's all over. 946 00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:13,173 It's a ship shape, shape, excuse me, shape shifting, right? 947 00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:18,813 So, they have specific, different, 948 00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:23,358 you know, shape shifters follow different alters. 949 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,543 Different medicine. 950 00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:27,684 It's dark medicine. 951 00:39:27,726 --> 00:39:29,268 'Cause we have good medicine, 952 00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:31,698 and there's bad medicine straight out, you know? 953 00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:35,598 There's a lot of that that goes on in Native country. 954 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,095 A lot of the reservations you go to, 955 00:39:38,137 --> 00:39:40,008 you'll hear about it. 956 00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:42,888 You know, curses, different things that people 957 00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:45,423 have learned how to, 958 00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,428 learned how to utilize these entities 959 00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,378 and these forces that are out there. 960 00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:53,928 So, that's basically what they've done. 961 00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:56,328 Hundreds, maybe thousand of years ago, 962 00:39:56,370 --> 00:39:59,714 a group had, you know, discovered these entities. 963 00:39:59,756 --> 00:40:04,098 And become subservient to those entities, 964 00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:06,318 I guess that's what you would say. 965 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,495 So, it's a dark force. 966 00:40:07,537 --> 00:40:09,438 It's a dark force. 967 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,663 - So, with, on that topic of the shape shifting, go ahead. 968 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,958 - Just keep your eye out. 969 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,833 - Okay. 970 00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:18,558 With what you just said, 971 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,758 how prevalent would you say shape shifters are around here? 972 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,528 I mean, is this something that is like a hit and miss? 973 00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:25,908 Every once in a while you see something? 974 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:27,978 There could be somebody in here presence that is like that? 975 00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:30,708 Or is it something that a lot of people pursue? 976 00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:34,180 - I don't know how to say it. It's just a, there's a few. 977 00:40:35,385 --> 00:40:37,385 You know, there's a few. 978 00:40:38,657 --> 00:40:40,457 - What are we watching for out here? 979 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:44,051 - That's so vast. 980 00:40:44,093 --> 00:40:46,283 - I mean, aside from the fact that it's gorgeous. 981 00:40:48,326 --> 00:40:50,055 - Wow. 982 00:40:50,097 --> 00:40:51,524 That rock looks- 983 00:40:51,566 --> 00:40:54,255 - That's the old Grandmother rock right there. 984 00:40:54,297 --> 00:40:55,143 - Wow. 985 00:40:55,185 --> 00:40:56,994 Yeah, it looks- 986 00:40:57,036 --> 00:40:59,268 - See, there's a, this is where a lot of the activity goes. 987 00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:00,978 This is one of our sacred spots. 988 00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:02,958 This whole area is all sacred, 989 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,128 sacred hills. 990 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:05,187 - Really? 991 00:41:05,229 --> 00:41:06,020 - You could walk over there if you want to. 992 00:41:06,062 --> 00:41:07,198 You wanna walk over there? 993 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:08,238 - Yeah. - Yeah. 994 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,080 - Just take a look at some of these, let me turn around. 995 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,155 I've noticed this, and like I was telling you, 996 00:41:14,197 --> 00:41:19,158 that with this skin walker, whatever you wanna call 'em, 997 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,808 bad guys, 998 00:41:20,850 --> 00:41:23,478 there is a human entity that's pushing it, right? 999 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,221 There's a human. 1000 00:41:25,263 --> 00:41:27,071 Like even one of us 1001 00:41:27,113 --> 00:41:29,733 could join that, do those bad things. 1002 00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:33,828 So, they do have their people, their guards. 1003 00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:34,728 And I've noticed that. 1004 00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:38,028 In fact, a few, about say a few months ago, 1005 00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:40,196 yeah, about a couple months ago, 1006 00:41:40,238 --> 00:41:43,218 it was back in April, I was helping a friend. 1007 00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:45,648 She lived just north to me on White Rocks Road. 1008 00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:47,778 And she had, they had been seeing these creatures 1009 00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:50,268 around here and in the trees. 1010 00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:51,408 It was shouting at them. 1011 00:41:51,450 --> 00:41:54,138 Just like, they were just like, "What the heck is this?" 1012 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:56,903 And, one night, you know, one even came into the house. 1013 00:41:56,945 --> 00:41:59,043 It scared her daughter. 1014 00:41:59,910 --> 00:42:01,685 So, they called me. 1015 00:42:01,727 --> 00:42:03,228 And, I said, "Well, let's pray." 1016 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:05,448 So, we went and did our thing 1017 00:42:05,490 --> 00:42:07,908 to protect her house, her family. 1018 00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:10,593 And we made a barrier around her little ranch there. 1019 00:42:12,497 --> 00:42:13,488 And so, we left, in fact, 1020 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:15,138 it's funny we're talking about this, 1021 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:19,724 'cause we came here to pray, to leave some tobacco here. 1022 00:42:19,766 --> 00:42:21,258 'Cause of power in this place. 1023 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:22,998 So we said, "Let's come down here 1024 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,028 and we'll leave some tobacco for the old lady 1025 00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:27,948 and then we'll go back." 1026 00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:29,298 So, we brought the tobacco here, 1027 00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:32,028 which is an offering to Creator. 1028 00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:33,288 We went back. 1029 00:42:33,330 --> 00:42:35,028 And we're in two vehicles. 1030 00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:37,698 They went up the road to her house. 1031 00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:39,498 And I was about to turn off the highway 1032 00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:41,715 to go up the road to her house, her son was with me. 1033 00:42:41,757 --> 00:42:44,298 And I looked at the road, just a little ways down the road, 1034 00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:46,008 like from here to my pickup, 1035 00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:47,598 and I seen this guy in a hood. 1036 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,288 You know, hood, just walking, kind of his head down. 1037 00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:52,263 And, 1038 00:42:53,396 --> 00:42:56,298 so I said, I asked, "Who is that?" 1039 00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:57,595 He said, he didn't say much. 1040 00:42:57,637 --> 00:42:58,848 "Ah, it's just somebody walking." 1041 00:42:58,890 --> 00:43:00,221 So, we went up, it was quite a ways, 1042 00:43:00,263 --> 00:43:01,485 maybe a little further than that. 1043 00:43:01,527 --> 00:43:03,738 And I just dropped him off, turned back around, 1044 00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:05,178 came back down the hill. 1045 00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:06,258 And he was a little closer. 1046 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,298 And, just as he was getting to the boundary, 1047 00:43:08,340 --> 00:43:11,328 like where we prayed and we left our medicine there, 1048 00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:13,764 he just like, something pushed him back. 1049 00:43:13,806 --> 00:43:15,888 Something pushed him back. 1050 00:43:15,930 --> 00:43:16,836 Made him go. 1051 00:43:16,878 --> 00:43:19,225 And the weird thing was if, maybe if it was, 1052 00:43:19,267 --> 00:43:20,658 "Oh, I forgot something, I got turned around." 1053 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:22,624 Why didn't he go back down the highway? 1054 00:43:22,666 --> 00:43:25,042 It pushed him back, and he went down in the ditch, 1055 00:43:25,084 --> 00:43:27,244 and he went into the trees. 1056 00:43:27,286 --> 00:43:28,077 - Wow. 1057 00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,878 - Yeah, so, but I told, and that's something I was told 1058 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,898 to be careful. 1059 00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:35,756 I've always noticed those things and seen those things. 1060 00:43:35,798 --> 00:43:38,718 And, since then, the lady, too, she's my friend, 1061 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,088 she's told me that they've seen it again. 1062 00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:41,921 But he's- 1063 00:43:41,963 --> 00:43:44,118 He won't come through. 1064 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,803 He's trying to come through, but he can't come through. 1065 00:43:46,764 --> 00:43:49,023 - So, this is just in this area right here? 1066 00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:54,858 - The way I figured, because I tracked the different, 1067 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:56,688 just over time and over the years, 1068 00:43:56,730 --> 00:43:59,268 I've heard different stories from different places. 1069 00:43:59,310 --> 00:44:01,143 And it all seems to follow, 1070 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,676 it follows, actually, it follows the rivers. 1071 00:44:04,718 --> 00:44:05,958 It follows the rivers. 1072 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,968 You'll see a lot of activity along this river. 1073 00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:09,168 North and south. 1074 00:44:09,210 --> 00:44:11,878 And then, right in where, Skinwalker Ranch happens to be 1075 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,058 where the two rivers connect. 1076 00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:15,768 And then, you also have a lot of activity 1077 00:44:15,810 --> 00:44:17,328 that's coming down the Duchenne River 1078 00:44:17,370 --> 00:44:19,308 Strawberry and Duchenne River. 1079 00:44:19,350 --> 00:44:20,183 And 1080 00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:25,095 it seems to follow some sort of a track. 1081 00:44:25,137 --> 00:44:28,638 Or a, you know, some line of power. 1082 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,415 In March, I was walking on that side 1083 00:44:31,457 --> 00:44:34,848 and they, see all these weird formations? 1084 00:44:34,890 --> 00:44:36,002 These little ridges in here? 1085 00:44:36,044 --> 00:44:36,835 - Yeah. 1086 00:44:36,877 --> 00:44:38,685 - I was just looking at 'em. 1087 00:44:38,727 --> 00:44:40,428 And a lot of them were, are really weird, 1088 00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:42,318 'cause they're supposed to be natural formations, 1089 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,153 but they don't look like they were naturally placed. 1090 00:44:46,257 --> 00:44:48,528 Right angles, different things like that. 1091 00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:50,405 So, whatever it may be. 1092 00:44:50,447 --> 00:44:52,398 All of our prophecies kind of, more or less, 1093 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,168 tell the same thing. 1094 00:44:54,210 --> 00:44:56,118 There's a big change coming. 1095 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,998 You know, even coincides with a lot of Christian 1096 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,218 and a lot of those teachings as well. 1097 00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:04,488 But, with most Natives, it's, we're there. 1098 00:45:04,530 --> 00:45:06,738 We've already, you know, started. 1099 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:08,373 It's already going. 1100 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:11,898 - You've already been acknowledging it? 1101 00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:13,315 - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. 1102 00:45:13,357 --> 00:45:15,618 - For a long time, even when I was a kid, 1103 00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:17,210 you know, they talk about that. 1104 00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:19,810 - So, given 1105 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,170 what you were talking about before with 1106 00:45:24,167 --> 00:45:25,180 the burial sites 1107 00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:28,338 and not disturbing ground, 1108 00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:29,988 we've heard a lot of people suggest that 1109 00:45:30,030 --> 00:45:32,121 all these oil rigs are disturbing the ground. 1110 00:45:32,163 --> 00:45:33,588 - Yes, yes they are. 1111 00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:36,348 - So, it's 1112 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:38,268 fathomable that these oil rigs 1113 00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:39,858 are really drumming up a lot of activity. 1114 00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:42,858 - They are drumming up a lot of activity. 1115 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:44,658 And I used to think about this, 1116 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:46,638 and I actually proposed this to the tribe. 1117 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,485 This is years ago, 20 some years ago, 1118 00:45:48,527 --> 00:45:50,973 when there wasn't a lot of activity. 1119 00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:54,228 Because, being from North Dakota, being a Lakota, 1120 00:45:54,270 --> 00:45:57,723 that's probably how we would attend to things. 1121 00:45:59,610 --> 00:46:01,743 So, I said, every time we drill a well, 1122 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:05,265 we should have a, we should go and pray for that well 1123 00:46:05,307 --> 00:46:06,978 and we should offer, 1124 00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:08,658 'cause we don't know what we're drilling into. 1125 00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:11,178 We don't know what we're releasing, you know? 1126 00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:13,667 So, yeah, I, a hundred percent, 1127 00:46:13,709 --> 00:46:15,378 I a hundred percent believe that. 1128 00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:17,688 I believe it to be true 1129 00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:18,521 as you feel it. 1130 00:46:18,563 --> 00:46:20,988 And there's been more activity 1131 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:23,088 since a lot of this oil, 1132 00:46:23,130 --> 00:46:25,008 you know, activity has come to the basin. 1133 00:46:25,050 --> 00:46:27,888 There's been more unidentified paranormal 1134 00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:29,988 activities going around. 1135 00:46:30,030 --> 00:46:33,393 And I definitely think there's a connection. 1136 00:46:33,435 --> 00:46:34,936 Absolutely. 1137 00:46:34,978 --> 00:46:38,748 - [Tony] Could the Mesa really contain ancient burial sites? 1138 00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:41,988 Or the remnants of an even older civilization? 1139 00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:44,328 Could the recent oil boom in some way 1140 00:46:44,370 --> 00:46:47,658 be upsetting the area and causing strange activity? 1141 00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:50,688 According to many locals, the answer is yes. 1142 00:46:50,730 --> 00:46:53,508 - The wolf that you saw and the sounds that you hear, 1143 00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:55,187 before or after the drilling? 1144 00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:56,058 - [Both] After. 1145 00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,638 - Yeah, it was definitely after. 1146 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,138 - Now, that's interesting, don't you think? 1147 00:47:00,180 --> 00:47:02,340 - Yeah, I do. - Oh, think it is. 1148 00:47:05,186 --> 00:47:09,018 - With every situation, there is a multitude of 1149 00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:11,688 factors playing into what is happening. 1150 00:47:11,730 --> 00:47:14,238 And I think that one of the things that 1151 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,698 is happening is that there's been a lot of 1152 00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:20,350 radiation fallout that has swept over this valley 1153 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,064 from the testing sites in Nevada 1154 00:47:24,106 --> 00:47:25,938 due to the air currents. 1155 00:47:25,980 --> 00:47:28,008 So, I think there's a lot of 1156 00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:30,528 radioactive material in the soil. 1157 00:47:30,570 --> 00:47:34,008 That, when you dig, you disrupt this radioactive material. 1158 00:47:34,050 --> 00:47:36,288 And so, I think that's a caution on that, 1159 00:47:36,330 --> 00:47:38,328 just for our current history. 1160 00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:40,668 But, I think, if we're going back to ancient history, 1161 00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:43,098 it's a burial ground for the tribal people. 1162 00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:45,588 They understand that there's this energy highway, 1163 00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:47,598 and they want their ancestors 1164 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,968 to travel this highway back to source. 1165 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:52,158 So, they, you know, there's a burial ground 1166 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,148 right next to the ranch. 1167 00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:54,528 The ranch was pretty much built, 1168 00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:56,958 that whole ridge is a burial ground. 1169 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,308 So, 1170 00:47:58,350 --> 00:47:59,178 you know, 1171 00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:00,768 disrupting that is just 1172 00:48:00,810 --> 00:48:04,158 its own offense in and of itself, you know? 1173 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,820 - [Ryan] Yeah, there's some really strange 1174 00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:10,188 things going on. 1175 00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:13,218 There's activity that has kind of like 1176 00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:16,308 rebooted around 2016, 1177 00:48:16,350 --> 00:48:18,835 right around when this oil rig went in. 1178 00:48:18,877 --> 00:48:22,098 Right around when new ownership purchased. 1179 00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:22,973 And 1180 00:48:24,149 --> 00:48:26,808 it's very interesting. 1181 00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:28,398 - There's a lot of people 1182 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,258 that say that people used to bury 1183 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:31,788 their dead in certain places, you know? 1184 00:48:31,830 --> 00:48:33,558 Indian burial grounds. 1185 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,408 And so, they have tons of them in this whole basin. 1186 00:48:36,450 --> 00:48:37,518 Just everywhere. 1187 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,794 Sprawled out in 1188 00:48:38,836 --> 00:48:42,176 any direction you go, you always see one. 1189 00:48:42,218 --> 00:48:45,678 And, you know, the more they do that, 1190 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:47,635 the spirits of the dead, 1191 00:48:47,677 --> 00:48:50,538 or whatever you want to call them, 1192 00:48:50,580 --> 00:48:53,928 you know, it unleashes that into the world. 1193 00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:54,978 They have nowhere to go. 1194 00:48:55,020 --> 00:48:56,538 Their bodies, 1195 00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:58,728 Native Americans, as far as, 1196 00:48:58,770 --> 00:49:01,158 you know, they believe is, 1197 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,413 when you die, you have to have your body connected, 1198 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:06,888 or you have to have your body 1199 00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:08,730 to be connected to the spirit world. 1200 00:49:12,629 --> 00:49:14,118 Or to Native American heaven. 1201 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,333 The hunting grounds. 1202 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:18,438 You have to have your body here. 1203 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,948 So, when a Native American cremates themselves, 1204 00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:25,308 they have no body to be connected to that world. 1205 00:49:25,350 --> 00:49:27,078 But a lot of people 1206 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,388 did bury their dead with all their bodies, 1207 00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:31,788 everything, and their belongings. 1208 00:49:31,830 --> 00:49:34,338 But, when these things happen, 1209 00:49:34,380 --> 00:49:36,618 and it disturbs that, 1210 00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:39,918 their spirits are disconnected, 1211 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,518 from my understanding, from that bridge, you know? 1212 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,308 Because something keeps their body here, 1213 00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:48,123 and they're up there. 1214 00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:51,408 They, you know, a lot of them have to come down 1215 00:49:51,450 --> 00:49:52,700 and see what's happening. 1216 00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:56,628 - [Tony] Could this place really be 1217 00:49:56,670 --> 00:49:58,368 some kind of energy highway? 1218 00:49:58,410 --> 00:50:02,478 A lay line or path that draws the activity along it? 1219 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,488 Could burial sites be what energizes 1220 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:06,978 the shape shifter rituals and medicine? 1221 00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:08,943 Or is it something darker? 1222 00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:11,848 - What's there to fear about a shape shifter? 1223 00:50:11,890 --> 00:50:14,298 Have they been known to hurt people? 1224 00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:15,663 - Yes, yes. 1225 00:50:16,530 --> 00:50:19,728 So, as I was talking earlier, down there. 1226 00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:21,498 We're talking, this is a, 1227 00:50:21,540 --> 00:50:24,318 this was a form of warfare, you know? 1228 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,238 So, that was the purpose of it. 1229 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,318 So, they are, they do carry medicine from that realm, okay? 1230 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,288 This is all energized or all 1231 00:50:33,330 --> 00:50:36,918 sponsored from this dark realm, from a specific point. 1232 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,398 So, they do have the ability to hurt people, 1233 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,413 to kill people, to take things from people. 1234 00:50:45,690 --> 00:50:46,608 It's all about control. 1235 00:50:46,650 --> 00:50:47,628 I don't know exactly. 1236 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:50,448 I try not to know, but, you know, it's all around us. 1237 00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:53,313 So, you know, we hear a lot of things. 1238 00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:56,088 I don't know, you know? 1239 00:50:56,130 --> 00:51:00,288 It's just a bad, dark place for bad, dark people, you know? 1240 00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:03,678 - You came here as a youth pastor. 1241 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:04,553 - Yeah. 1242 00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:07,578 - In doing that, 1243 00:51:07,620 --> 00:51:10,518 you have a set of beliefs 1244 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,068 that were well-defined before this. 1245 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:15,648 Has that been changed, altered, 1246 00:51:15,690 --> 00:51:17,553 strengthened in any way this week? 1247 00:51:20,130 --> 00:51:21,948 - We talk about 1248 00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:22,998 all of these things. 1249 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,750 Like the evil entities and 1250 00:51:26,610 --> 00:51:29,321 the guarding of yourself from these, you know? 1251 00:51:29,363 --> 00:51:31,158 This is what Johnny's talking about. 1252 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,498 You know, especially with guarding yourself with, 1253 00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:37,218 what he does, with sage, and prayer, and everything. 1254 00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:40,338 I mean, the Bible talks about, you know, 1255 00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:43,188 preparing yourself with the armor of Christ, you know? 1256 00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:44,021 - Amen, amen. 1257 00:51:44,063 --> 00:51:47,943 - And that's, in my mind, that's the comparison I see. 1258 00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:51,858 - Be aware of what's going on underneath you 1259 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:53,943 no matter where you are, you know? 1260 00:51:55,253 --> 00:51:57,198 Because there might be some 1261 00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,873 energy, some power that's there from way back, you know? 1262 00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:04,338 Even our people don't know, 1263 00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:06,198 'cause we're newcomers to this area. 1264 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,035 So, our elders would always tell us, 1265 00:52:08,077 --> 00:52:10,548 "Don't dig, don't do this, don't disturb things 1266 00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:11,418 from the old people." 1267 00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:13,768 There were people before us, so we didn't, 1268 00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:15,588 we didn't mess with that you know? 1269 00:52:15,630 --> 00:52:18,258 But do be aware of what's underneath you, you know? 1270 00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:20,718 I've lived in cities, in Phoenix and Chicago. 1271 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,508 And people build, and especially in Phoenix, 1272 00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:26,208 there's been, oh, there's probably thousands of cases 1273 00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:28,128 building right over the Hohokum, 1274 00:52:28,170 --> 00:52:30,168 you know, ruins and different things. 1275 00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:31,870 And you have a lot of 1276 00:52:33,210 --> 00:52:36,633 poltergeist activity around that area. 1277 00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:39,978 But people don't know why. 1278 00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:42,528 So, I'll say, so know what's underneath you. 1279 00:52:42,570 --> 00:52:44,648 Know it's there, listen. 1280 00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:47,208 Don't disregard those stories, you know? 1281 00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,758 And I think that's what's important. 1282 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,648 And that'll just enhance things, you know? 1283 00:52:51,690 --> 00:52:53,628 It'll enhance you, 'cause it gives you more history 1284 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:54,730 and more insight 1285 00:52:55,590 --> 00:52:56,381 to what's going on. 1286 00:52:56,423 --> 00:52:58,248 'Cause it's not just the past ten years 1287 00:52:58,290 --> 00:53:00,048 since YouTube's been invented, you know? 1288 00:53:00,090 --> 00:53:03,513 We've been seeing this for a long time, yeah. 1289 00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:08,658 But things are changing, 1290 00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:10,400 I guess that's what I'll tell you. 1291 00:53:11,241 --> 00:53:13,143 All our people will say that. 1292 00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:16,308 Be prepared, things will get weird. 1293 00:53:16,350 --> 00:53:18,048 Things will change. 1294 00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:20,328 - You don't have to speak for the entire tribe, but 1295 00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:23,748 would a weight be lifted on a lot of people if they could 1296 00:53:23,790 --> 00:53:25,968 tell their side of the story? 1297 00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:27,438 - Yes. 1298 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,298 - [Tony] That's exactly what we had hoped to do 1299 00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:30,558 by coming here. 1300 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,838 We hoped we could give voice to the experiences of 1301 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,878 those that had lived here the longest. 1302 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,553 Sometimes the campfire stories you hear end up being true. 1303 00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:42,168 The next morning, anthropologist, James Keenan, 1304 00:53:42,210 --> 00:53:45,018 who had spent six years following the magnetic field shifts 1305 00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:47,868 beneath the Uintah Basin, arrived at Space Wolf 1306 00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:49,608 to take EMF readings. 1307 00:53:49,650 --> 00:53:52,278 And James's data and anthropological insight 1308 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,498 into an even older civilization 1309 00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:56,598 added yet another layer of meaning 1310 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,121 onto the happenings we had experienced in this area. 1311 00:53:59,163 --> 00:54:02,178 - In this are you have from a negative 14 micro Tesla 1312 00:54:02,220 --> 00:54:04,510 all the way up to an 89 micro Tesla with 1313 00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:08,432 the average for this area being a 46. 1314 00:54:08,474 --> 00:54:11,598 I believe it was 46 for right here. 1315 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,403 So, that's just what 1316 00:54:13,445 --> 00:54:14,980 the magnetic 1317 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:18,648 differences are for each location in the earth, 1318 00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:20,253 all the way down to its core. 1319 00:54:21,630 --> 00:54:23,500 A negative would 1320 00:54:24,690 --> 00:54:27,528 mean that there's some type of cavity. 1321 00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:28,998 Or void underground. 1322 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,548 The higher means there's something highly magnetic. 1323 00:54:31,590 --> 00:54:33,288 To go up to an 89, you're talking about 1324 00:54:33,330 --> 00:54:35,148 something like a large magnet. 1325 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:37,938 But, what's insane is, it's transient. 1326 00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:38,771 It's moving. 1327 00:54:38,813 --> 00:54:42,408 You can't have a negative 14 to an 89 in the same location. 1328 00:54:42,450 --> 00:54:44,350 Yet, this is one of four spots 1329 00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:46,998 that I've found. 1330 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,618 And it's in a diagonal line. 1331 00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:52,308 They perfectly match up at 8.34 degrees. 1332 00:54:52,350 --> 00:54:53,538 And, what's kind of crazy is that, 1333 00:54:53,580 --> 00:54:57,168 8.34 degree heading goes right up to Blind Frog Ranch too. 1334 00:54:57,210 --> 00:54:59,530 So, and then, there's this whole underground 1335 00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:03,018 cavern system too that we've been 1336 00:55:03,060 --> 00:55:04,878 under in certain parts 1337 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,218 with a lot of flowing water. 1338 00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:09,138 So, we're wondering if maybe that's how, 1339 00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:10,980 if it's highly, you know, if there's 1340 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,108 saline, there's positive ions, high magnesium. 1341 00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:17,688 My whole hypothesis is that 1342 00:55:17,730 --> 00:55:21,228 there's some type of magnetic energy underground 1343 00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:23,118 that's feeding to a, it's a relay. 1344 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,528 So, you have point A underground. 1345 00:55:24,570 --> 00:55:26,988 There's a point B, whatever that may be. 1346 00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:30,738 And then, it's transmitting out into space. 1347 00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:33,948 And, whatever it is, there's 1348 00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:36,288 several Navajo symbols. 1349 00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:39,528 And there's actually a Navajo book that 1350 00:55:39,570 --> 00:55:42,888 the front cover has the same type of theory. 1351 00:55:42,930 --> 00:55:45,738 And it's all tied into the Yenaldooshi, 1352 00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:47,512 which is a skin walker. 1353 00:55:47,554 --> 00:55:49,473 That's what the Dine call them. 1354 00:55:50,610 --> 00:55:51,640 And, also, with 1355 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,118 the symbols of the petroglyphs and the pictographs. 1356 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,578 And then, also, obviously, UFO. 1357 00:55:58,620 --> 00:56:00,528 Yeah, the giants is a whole other topic. 1358 00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:04,068 But, you'll see that in the petroglyphs at Dry Fort Canyon. 1359 00:56:04,110 --> 00:56:06,918 I mean, seven feet plus in height. 1360 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,358 Six digits on the fingers. 1361 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,353 Massively large feet. 1362 00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:13,818 So, they say the Sitekawe 1363 00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:16,848 were the redheaded cannibal giants for this area. 1364 00:56:16,890 --> 00:56:18,888 I don't believe they were cannibal, 1365 00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:20,028 but they were head hunters. 1366 00:56:20,070 --> 00:56:21,963 And you can see that in 1367 00:56:22,005 --> 00:56:24,588 the anthropomorphic figures are actually, 1368 00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:26,838 have taken heads, trophy heads. 1369 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,301 So, that may be where that came from. 1370 00:56:29,343 --> 00:56:30,783 - That's interesting. 1371 00:56:31,703 --> 00:56:34,818 I've heard of the redheaded giants before. 1372 00:56:34,860 --> 00:56:35,838 And so, now that we know, 1373 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,908 we can visit somewhere where maybe they were depicted, 1374 00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:40,638 I think it would be worth our time before we head back home. 1375 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:41,471 - Oh, absolutely. 1376 00:56:41,513 --> 00:56:43,098 Even the three kings, up at the top, 1377 00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:44,058 you won't be able to get close. 1378 00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:46,578 But, like, with the camera, you'll be able to zoom in. 1379 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:48,888 Consider the height factor of what you're looking at 1380 00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:50,568 compared to what's around it. 1381 00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:53,412 And there's one anthropomorphic figure over to the right. 1382 00:56:53,454 --> 00:56:56,898 You'll see the patina is a lot older than the rest of it. 1383 00:56:56,940 --> 00:56:59,208 It's truly an interesting 1384 00:56:59,250 --> 00:57:00,708 rock art piece to look at, 1385 00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:02,500 because that's just telling us that 1386 00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:05,808 there was something about that site that was so important 1387 00:57:05,850 --> 00:57:10,458 that it continued to be worked over and added to. 1388 00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,903 And in periods after. 1389 00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:16,578 - [Tony] Had there really been giants here? 1390 00:57:16,620 --> 00:57:19,668 How long has this high strangeness been going on? 1391 00:57:19,710 --> 00:57:21,828 We did, in fact, find a number of petroglyphs 1392 00:57:21,870 --> 00:57:23,928 left by ancient and little understood 1393 00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:26,808 Fremont cliff dwellers near the basin. 1394 00:57:26,850 --> 00:57:29,268 Ancient depictions of giants, shape shifters, 1395 00:57:29,310 --> 00:57:31,908 and even what some would call portals. 1396 00:57:31,950 --> 00:57:34,908 With new layers of context on the basin, 1397 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:37,038 we gathered around coffee to prepare for 1398 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,913 our last night on the property. 1399 00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:42,138 - Going into tonight, I feel like 1400 00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:45,648 my head space is just more understanding, 1401 00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:47,508 compared to what it has been the past couple of days. 1402 00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:48,978 Spending time with Johnny and Bow, 1403 00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:50,508 and understanding their culture, 1404 00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:53,148 I understand a little bit more as to 1405 00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:55,008 what kind of makes up this area 1406 00:57:55,050 --> 00:57:57,918 and the essence of what's been going on. 1407 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,728 And we'll just, we'll see what happens. 1408 00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:03,198 We'll see what happens tonight with that. 1409 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,990 But, I definitely feel like 1410 00:58:06,090 --> 00:58:09,048 I'm coming from a more educated understanding. 1411 00:58:09,090 --> 00:58:10,968 And, as a result of that, 1412 00:58:11,010 --> 00:58:13,428 I might go through an experience tonight that 1413 00:58:13,470 --> 00:58:15,978 I might view differently than I would've two days ago. 1414 00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:17,383 For sure. 1415 00:58:17,425 --> 00:58:19,608 - Yeah, I think I kind of have like a 1416 00:58:19,650 --> 00:58:21,018 patient mindset tonight. 1417 00:58:21,060 --> 00:58:23,658 I was, we came in kind of like guns-a-blazing. 1418 00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:25,323 We were excited to get going. 1419 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,068 And, now that we've had that experience 1420 00:58:28,110 --> 00:58:30,588 with talking with both Bow and Johnny, 1421 00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:32,298 and others around the area, 1422 00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:35,148 kind of helps to settle that, you know, 1423 00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:38,568 that excitement down, but also be knowing that we're 1424 00:58:38,610 --> 00:58:41,388 in the presence of a lot of other things going on. 1425 00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:43,788 So, I'm pretty patient. 1426 00:58:43,830 --> 00:58:45,948 - Yeah, so, for me, it's two things. 1427 00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:48,288 You know, one was last night around the fireplace 1428 00:58:48,330 --> 00:58:52,308 when Johnny sat there and told us that he felt like that 1429 00:58:52,350 --> 00:58:54,048 we've come in with reverence and respect. 1430 00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:55,788 And he feels like the people that do that 1431 00:58:55,830 --> 00:58:58,083 tend to see what they have come to see. 1432 00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:01,278 Also, I think, just from a perspective, 1433 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,568 who we are as a team, 1434 00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:04,488 I think that's what we bring to the table. 1435 00:59:04,530 --> 00:59:06,138 We don't come in here just trying to 1436 00:59:06,180 --> 00:59:08,058 stir things up just for the sake of it. 1437 00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,848 I think we want to go about it the right way. 1438 00:59:10,890 --> 00:59:13,638 We want to do it in a respectful way and also a safe way. 1439 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,348 But, I feel real good about tonight. 1440 00:59:15,390 --> 00:59:17,748 I've been getting that feeling since I woke up this morning. 1441 00:59:17,790 --> 00:59:20,673 And I know that place is just a hot bed ready to explode. 1442 00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:23,778 - [Tony] Hearing the experiences of 1443 00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:25,398 the people that lived here, 1444 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,518 and having our own strange encounters earlier in the week, 1445 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,588 we were all excited for what our final night 1446 00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:32,358 at Space Wolf would hold. 1447 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,973 Unfortunately, the night took a turn none of us expected. 1448 00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:39,078 - So, back there, when Jack was saying 1449 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,578 he saw that blue light blinking, 1450 00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,048 which is obviously some sort of tower, 1451 00:59:42,090 --> 00:59:43,188 or something like that. 1452 00:59:43,230 --> 00:59:46,518 As we're pulling past, I noticed there was a dirt road 1453 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,478 next to us, and headlights lit up. 1454 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,008 And I said, "Well, that's kind of odd." 1455 00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:52,968 They're on a dirt road. 1456 00:59:53,010 --> 00:59:55,788 There's no, nothing back that way. 1457 00:59:55,830 --> 00:59:57,168 And, 1458 00:59:57,210 --> 00:59:58,608 I started turning around and watching, 1459 00:59:58,650 --> 00:59:59,808 and they slowly pulled out. 1460 00:59:59,850 --> 01:00:01,968 They waited, though, for us to get way down, 1461 01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:03,558 and then they pulled out. 1462 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,958 And they, essentially, followed us. 1463 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,188 And that's why I asked Tony to stop, because 1464 01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:11,268 it just seemed odd. 1465 01:00:11,310 --> 01:00:12,498 I wanted to see what they did. 1466 01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:14,508 Well, they did come by there, 1467 01:00:14,550 --> 01:00:16,150 but they did slow up by the 1468 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:19,518 entrance to Space Wolf. 1469 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,768 But they kept going, obviously, 'cause they saw us stopped. 1470 01:00:21,810 --> 01:00:24,918 We didn't go all the way back to the campsite. 1471 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,248 So, currently, we are trying to follow them. 1472 01:00:28,290 --> 01:00:29,472 - Joseph just called me. 1473 01:00:29,514 --> 01:00:32,628 So one of you guys could maybe call him. 1474 01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:34,908 - Yeah, somebody call Joseph. 1475 01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:36,978 - [Tony] A truck hidden in the high desert 1476 01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:39,738 had evidently been waiting for us to pass. 1477 01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:42,168 When we pulled into the driveway at Space Wolf, 1478 01:00:42,210 --> 01:00:45,258 the following car slowed to a stop at the gate. 1479 01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:46,608 When they saw Joel get out of 1480 01:00:46,650 --> 01:00:49,638 the vehicle and acknowledge them, they sped off. 1481 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,233 In the heat of the moment, we decided to follow. 1482 01:00:53,703 --> 01:00:55,518 - Look like they sped up. 1483 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,408 - I'm telling you, man, it's weird. 1484 01:00:57,450 --> 01:00:59,943 There's no, it was like that classic- 1485 01:01:01,581 --> 01:01:03,078 They were in the dark the whole time 1486 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,328 until we came driving by, and then the lights lit up. 1487 01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:06,203 - Yeah. 1488 01:01:10,830 --> 01:01:12,768 Well, that's odd, how far out there he got. 1489 01:01:12,810 --> 01:01:15,198 - Oh, I know, he sped up big time. 1490 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,573 - [Tony] I have a feeling this guy's gonna disappear on us. 1491 01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:22,998 - [Ward] Keep an eye out left and right too, 1492 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,108 if he pulled off there. 1493 01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:25,793 - Yeah, look left, look left, look left. 1494 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,628 - There are protectors of that 1495 01:01:32,670 --> 01:01:33,503 sensitive stuff. 1496 01:01:40,285 --> 01:01:43,878 - I mean, you could try follow them into town but- 1497 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,848 - [Tony] Careening down back roads at speeds of 90 or more, 1498 01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:49,518 the car that had been following got away from us. 1499 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,198 During this chase, however, 1500 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,928 we got a call from Joseph back at our base camp. 1501 01:01:53,970 --> 01:01:56,778 He had stayed behind that evening, and so had seen that, 1502 01:01:56,820 --> 01:01:59,148 after we pulled out to chase the follow car, 1503 01:01:59,190 --> 01:02:02,748 yet another vehicle had pulled into Space Wolf driveway. 1504 01:02:02,790 --> 01:02:05,298 And, presumably, would've continued all the way down 1505 01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:07,758 to our campsite if Joseph hadn't flashed 1506 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,893 a strobing tactical flashlight at them. 1507 01:02:10,935 --> 01:02:13,693 - Get ready to text him that we're at the gate. 1508 01:02:15,125 --> 01:02:15,932 - You got it, Christian? 1509 01:02:15,974 --> 01:02:16,911 - Yeah. - Okay. 1510 01:02:16,953 --> 01:02:18,468 - I've never seen a vehicle 1511 01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:20,445 go around corners that fast, though. 1512 01:02:20,487 --> 01:02:22,245 That was that, like it's a pickup truck. 1513 01:02:22,287 --> 01:02:24,376 - Yeah, he was pushing it. 1514 01:02:24,418 --> 01:02:26,643 - He made distance on us. 1515 01:02:29,550 --> 01:02:31,150 - Yeah, I should've went harder. 1516 01:02:32,220 --> 01:02:33,376 - It's kind of hard to do that with 1517 01:02:33,418 --> 01:02:35,313 as much stuff as what we had. 1518 01:02:35,355 --> 01:02:37,443 - Yeah, we got more weight. 1519 01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:40,625 - Well, we'll find out how far this car came down. 1520 01:02:40,667 --> 01:02:42,018 Did it just come in here? 1521 01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:42,851 - Look at that, though, 1522 01:02:42,893 --> 01:02:44,590 you can still see the dust in the air. 1523 01:02:46,557 --> 01:02:47,838 - I mean, that was what I, 1524 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,778 that's what looked, thought when I saw that car pull out 1525 01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:52,968 with, it's the lights went, all you saw was lights. 1526 01:02:53,010 --> 01:02:54,344 - When did you turn the lights on? 1527 01:02:54,386 --> 01:02:56,133 Like, right before he turned in? 1528 01:02:57,077 --> 01:02:59,538 - So, as it turned in, they went off. 1529 01:02:59,580 --> 01:03:02,478 Before it made, completed its turn, rolled in. 1530 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,978 And I thought it was Chester's, 1531 01:03:04,020 --> 01:03:06,738 a friend of Chester's or something, you know? 1532 01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:09,858 And then, he just kept coming, coming, coming. 1533 01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:11,238 And I was like- 1534 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,873 I was like, "Oh, no, no, no, no." 1535 01:03:12,915 --> 01:03:14,613 - Did it stop before you did that or after? 1536 01:03:14,655 --> 01:03:16,416 - No, it stopped when I did this. 1537 01:03:16,458 --> 01:03:17,864 - So, like that stopped it? 1538 01:03:17,906 --> 01:03:20,054 - And then, it backed up, and went- 1539 01:03:20,096 --> 01:03:22,375 - Did it back up in a hurry, would you say? 1540 01:03:22,417 --> 01:03:23,505 - No. 1541 01:03:23,547 --> 01:03:25,128 No, because I think 1542 01:03:25,170 --> 01:03:27,090 it figured how far I was away. 1543 01:03:28,050 --> 01:03:29,275 I'm thinking, 1544 01:03:29,317 --> 01:03:32,478 what if those guys, whoever that was, that was a decoy. 1545 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:33,311 - Saw, yeah saw us leave. 1546 01:03:33,353 --> 01:03:36,738 - To pull you guys away, and then somebody comes in here. 1547 01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:38,358 Well, this car was like, I mean, 1548 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,936 I would just call it a Camry. 1549 01:03:39,978 --> 01:03:41,358 That kind of car. 1550 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:42,843 You know, like a four-door. 1551 01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:47,088 - Could you tell color, probably not, huh? 1552 01:03:47,130 --> 01:03:48,978 - No, I couldn't, it was too dark. 1553 01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:49,811 See that light? 1554 01:03:49,853 --> 01:03:50,974 That's a motion sensor. 1555 01:03:51,016 --> 01:03:54,048 That's the light that first alerted me to it 1556 01:03:54,090 --> 01:03:55,023 just as it like- 1557 01:03:56,430 --> 01:03:59,538 So, it's probably like 20, 30 or, 60 seconds. 1558 01:03:59,580 --> 01:04:01,758 There you go. - There it goes. 1559 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,258 - 30 seconds. 1560 01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:05,920 - Which means it kicked on after we came in. 1561 01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:18,738 - [Tony] Being in a threatening situation 1562 01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:21,198 put a massive damper on the final night. 1563 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,658 We became less worried about the unexplainable, 1564 01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:26,478 and more about our own physical security. 1565 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,178 Obviously, someone had wanted into our camp. 1566 01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:31,428 But, for what purpose we don't know. 1567 01:04:31,470 --> 01:04:34,368 Could there have been something we weren't supposed to know? 1568 01:04:34,410 --> 01:04:36,018 Was it intimidation? 1569 01:04:36,060 --> 01:04:38,913 Or just letting us know we were being watched? 1570 01:04:47,220 --> 01:04:48,918 - We did not bring the K2. 1571 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,147 Just thought of it now. 1572 01:05:00,137 --> 01:05:03,498 - Do you think that there's ancient curses on this land? 1573 01:05:03,540 --> 01:05:05,628 These lands and stuff that might 1574 01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:10,488 attract the activity that has been happening here? 1575 01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:11,880 I mean, we're talking about 1576 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,228 upright walking dogs, giant wolves. 1577 01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:16,240 We're talking about 1578 01:05:18,450 --> 01:05:21,558 UFOs, abductions, rake looking type creatures. 1579 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,998 There's so much going on here, in this area. 1580 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,201 Do you think that there could have been an ancient curse 1581 01:05:28,243 --> 01:05:29,328 put on this land that has been almost 1582 01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:31,518 like a magnet for all this stuff? 1583 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,018 - [Ryan] I didn't really know. 1584 01:05:33,060 --> 01:05:35,418 I thought up until the point he was actually, 1585 01:05:35,460 --> 01:05:37,758 they, I don't know if it was a he or she, 1586 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,318 were in the vehicle. 1587 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,228 And I don't even know exactly what it was, 1588 01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:45,048 because I never got a full look at it. 1589 01:05:45,090 --> 01:05:47,080 But it seemed 1590 01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:51,528 like an interesting, possibly, interdimensional type 1591 01:05:51,570 --> 01:05:52,638 now that I look back. 1592 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,663 But it was a very, just, 1593 01:05:56,070 --> 01:05:58,788 for all intents and purposes, what I saw was an 1594 01:05:58,830 --> 01:06:02,823 older Native American in the middle of nowhere. 1595 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,388 - Natives were very resistant to telling anything, 1596 01:06:08,430 --> 01:06:11,028 'cause we didn't want to be diagnosed as crazy. 1597 01:06:11,070 --> 01:06:13,509 That's true, so we kind of kept quiet 1598 01:06:13,551 --> 01:06:16,105 and just kept it among ourselves. 1599 01:06:16,147 --> 01:06:17,809 You know, we didn't really 1600 01:06:17,851 --> 01:06:19,630 talk until recently. 1601 01:06:19,672 --> 01:06:22,038 But then, at the same time, there's, 1602 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,385 no one really asked us either, so, you know? 1603 01:06:26,427 --> 01:06:28,878 - [Tony] But could you define for the audience 1604 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,218 what a skin walker is? 1605 01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:33,828 I mean, there's a lot of people that define it differently. 1606 01:06:33,870 --> 01:06:35,178 I've heard, at least. 1607 01:06:35,220 --> 01:06:38,238 But what would you say a skin walker is? 1608 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,758 - [Ryan] It's a mixture of things. 1609 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,103 And it really depends on what culture is defining it. 1610 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,788 Whether that be 1611 01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:50,148 the Native Americans defining it as a 1612 01:06:50,190 --> 01:06:51,678 skin walker. 1613 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,020 Or a 1614 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,270 dark arts practicing, witchery way following 1615 01:06:58,312 --> 01:07:03,312 dark shaman appear to be something they are not. 1616 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,583 Magic perfectly explained, really. 1617 01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:08,268 - [Tony] In the paranormal community, 1618 01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:11,208 few places elicit as strong an association 1619 01:07:11,250 --> 01:07:14,583 with the truly unexplained as this cut of high desert. 1620 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,798 Could it be that this place is set apart in some way, 1621 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,168 sacred or desecrated? 1622 01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:25,128 Why are experiences here so common, so vivid? 1623 01:07:25,170 --> 01:07:26,898 Out at the margins of reality, 1624 01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:30,018 questions abound while answers are rare. 1625 01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:33,078 It's poetry, not a technical manual. 1626 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,898 What I do know is that, if you listen to the sounds 1627 01:07:35,940 --> 01:07:38,148 that have hung over this place the longest, 1628 01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:41,178 the voices of those with the longest memories, 1629 01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:43,263 you can start to catch the rhythm. 1630 01:07:45,069 --> 01:07:47,902 (Native chanting) 1631 01:08:09,928 --> 01:08:12,761 (Native chanting) 115267

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