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The first record that
I ever bought, I believe,
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was Stampede, by
the Doobie Brothers.
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The first record I bought
was a 45 by David Bowie,
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was Space Oddity.
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The first record I ever
bought, with my parents' money
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of course, was this 1973
Famous Monsters Speak.
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I think I bought my
first record at age eight.
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It's the Monster Mash.
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The first record that
I owned was a present,
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it was a Christmas
present, and it was
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the Partridge Family Album.
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We Sold Our
Soul for Rock and Roll,
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The double Black Sabbath album,
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my parents got it
for me for Christmas,
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which is completely
unlike my parents.
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They're not really churchgoing,
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but they consider
themselves Christian.
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So, my aunt Marlene
said, I will get you
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any record you
want, for, I think
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it was Hanukkah, or
something like that.
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Great. Please get me Blizzard
of Ozz by Ozzy Osbourne.
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The first record I
owned was given to me
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by my grandparents, they
actually gave me two.
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Chuck Berry's Golden
Hits, and the other was
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a Mozart Ein Kleine Nachtmusik.
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My grandma took me
to buy my first record,
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and I picked out three
records, I picked out The Cars,
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Blondie, and the one that
really hit me the most,
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The Ramones, and it
was in the third,
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I think it was Rocket to Russia.
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The Hotter Than
Hell, probably asked mom for
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some money and went to
Tumbleweed records in P-town.
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Me and my friend didn't
have any money, but we had
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like, a dollar each,
so we went in together,
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and bought Hotter Than Hell.
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I think the first
record I ever owned,
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that I got my own,
I think I shoplifted
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Summertime Blues by The Who.
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Who's Next, that
was the first album
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I really remember
buying on my own.
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Hey Jude, with
Revolution on the back.
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The Beatles Blue and
Red compilation records.
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With my own money,
birthday money, I went to
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the record store and
bought Led Zeppelin II,
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and Sergeant Pepper, same day.
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I rode my bike to the
mall, and went to Corvette's,
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and I bought Led Zeppelin III.
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Believe it or not, it was
a Seals and Crofts record,
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and I was like, you know, I was
like, what the fuck is this?
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♪ Darling, if you want
me to be, closer to you ♪
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Right, that's them,
and I was like,
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this sucks, I fucking,
they got my money!
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December's Children
by the Stones.
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Had the dark cover, you
know, it was just menacing.
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I bought a band called Think,
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it was called Once
You Understand.
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A lot of these are one hit
wonders, and the only way
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you knew about
them was listening
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to these records on the radio.
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American Graffiti.
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The album that I came
out, I think it came out
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in '75, and this is the
actual album I bought.
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Looking at, nice!
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The record that I was like,
I must have this record,
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is the soundtrack from
Star Wars, definitely.
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My first record that
I owned was actually
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a comedy record, it was
George Carlin's AM and FM.
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First record I actually
went out and bought,
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not sure, but it
would've been a single.
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I remember, they were like,
think they were 70 cents.
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And there was a music
store near my house
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called Giant Music, and
I think it would've been,
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I think it was the Lemon
Pipers, Green Tambourine.
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My favorite song as
a child, was Taxman.
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Off of Revolver, and it
was a great package deal
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because Revolver was so
powerful, A, to look at,
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the cover was insane, Taxman,
first song on the record,
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and has the distorted guitar.
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It's just incredibly
powerful, but I think
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it's a combination of
the cover and that Taxman
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guitar solo, and it kind of,
this is one of the first things
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that made me wanna play guitar.
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My favorite record as a
child, as a young child,
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it probably would've been Endless
Summer by the Beach Boys.
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It's like a double album, it
was in my parents' collection,
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and...
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And you know, every
single song is good.
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I think one of
my favorite records
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as a child would
have to be Jackson 5.
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Being grown up, you
know, in that era, and
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just all around, I mean,
I remember there was even
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a cartoon to the
Jackson 5s, and it was,
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all, it was just, and as
a kid, living in the hood
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and the ghettos,
you know, and I just
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could relate all
the way, you know.
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Best cartoon theme
song ever, to this day,
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it's the punk rock lead guitar,
is the Flintstones theme.
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Flintstones theme was
so fast, and just so
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abnormal to hear a
song like that on TV,
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you just wanted to
run around the room.
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With the shows back
then, you can't help
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but thinking, Gilligan's
Island, 'cause that
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was one song that was gonna
be on, immediately made
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you happy, you're just
like, fuck school,
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I wanna watch Gilligan's Island.
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And the Flintstones
for the theme.
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Probably the Banana
Splits theme, or any song
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by the Monkeys.
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Free to be You and Me.
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Probably the earliest thing.
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Kind of just like, every
American kid being raised
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by a...
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Early 70s liberals, I just
knew, and I loved Free to Be,
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and I loved all the
songs on Sesame Street.
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Jungle Boogie by
Cool and the Gang.
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I saw them on Soul Train.
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I must've been 12, and I
was like, holy, can I curse?
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Holy fucking shit...
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Definitely Roger K,
with Leaders of the Pack,
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and I remember, the
first record I bought,
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it was a compilation thing.
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Like, with all these
other songs, and that was
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the only song I
ever listened to.
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'Cause it had the
motorcycle in the end.
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And the revs and stuff like
that, and I just loved that,
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even when I was a little
kid, I loved the dramatic.
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My mother had decided
we needed to learn to play
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the organ in our house, we
had this electric organ,
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three keyboards and a
pedal board, I actually got
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pretty good at it.
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But in the organ was a
cassette tape player,
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and my sister, who was
five years older than me,
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got a cassette tape
with the song Tush
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by ZZ Top on it, and I played
that song over and over
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and over and I was probably
eight, maybe nine years old.
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And it was my very favorite
song, in the entire world.
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I don't know why, I
don't know what happened,
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but something about the
electric organ and the cassette
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tape of Tush super muffled
on this terrible speaker,
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was the best thing in
my whole entire life.
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I loved the Electric Prunes,
I Had Too Much To Dream
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Last Night, the Blues Magoos,
and this was like stuff
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I'd never heard,
it was something
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that really stuck in
my ear and all that.
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Jesse Colin Young and the
Yonugbloods get together.
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That song, when I was
six, maybe younger, five,
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like, can you play
that song again?
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I think it was the cover art.
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It was vaguely psychedelic,
is my recollection
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and mysterious like
Fantasia or something.
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It had that great guitar part
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and sort of
Beatles-like harmonies.
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I had a real response to that.
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Puff the Magic Dragon, I
think it was the Brothers Four.
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I vaguely remember the
art work, I think it was
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four guys in cardigan
sweaters on the cover
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with beautifully coiffed hair.
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Kind of stashed in
with my mom's records,
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kind of deep into it so I
probably wouldn't find it,
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was a record called
'Have a Marijuana'
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by David Peel and
the Lower East Side.
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I discovered it when I was
about eight or nine years old
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and I knew what pot was,
I knew what marijuana was.
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On the record cover it had
a giant marijuana leaf.
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You know it was probably around
1972 or something like that
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and the symbolism of
the marijuana leaf,
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older kids that I knew had them
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on their jean jackets and shit.
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There was something
really cool about that
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and iconic about
that record cover.
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In kindergarten, we had them.
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The teacher would
have us singing.
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She played piano
and we would sing,
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we did Home on the Range and
she taught us the harmony.
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It was as if my brain
exploded and poured out
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of my ears when I
heard the harmony.
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I couldn't stop thinking about
the harmony of that song.
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That was a pretty
important song for me.
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Without a doubt, Jim
Croce's Bad, Bad, Leroy Brown.
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Now if you think, and I was
probably eight years old
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at the time, I didn't realize
what the soft spoken Mr. Croce
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was really kind of, the
themes he was dealing with.
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Who was this bad,
bad Leroy Brown?
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Apparently he was
badder than King Kong
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and meaner than a junkyard dog.
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What I didn't quite realize
was this was sort of
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a folk song about a
Chicago drug lord.
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He's the El Chapo
of 70s folk rock.
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My father despised rock music
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and he didn't allow
it in the house.
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The only record that I
could play as a kid was
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a Carpenter's record
was Close to You.
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It's still one of my
favorite records for
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the record cover and
for the actual music.
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That's absolutely,
just it is gorgeous.
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When you don't have a video
and all you have is artwork,
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you really start digging
into what's there
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and just staring at it while
you're listening to the record.
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Visually it was a
great sounding board,
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you'd just look at this,
right, but musically
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this record is by far
my favorite KISS record.
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Overall I'd have to say
Mott from Mott the Hoople.
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I liked all the songs on it.
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Number one it was
an album album,
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you know before album
albums was just a hit song.
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The first song on side A
and the first song on side B
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were the hits and then
the rest was filler.
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But this was an album album.
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The first song that
really got me going as a kid
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and that I kind of played
over and over again
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and danced around
to was probably
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Jumping Jack Flash by
The Rolling Stones.
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I wish I could pick
something more esoteric
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but that's what it was.
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Grew up in a group
house, so we had a bunch
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of different record
collections and at some point
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around when I was five
or six they all lived in
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the living room with the stereo.
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So I used to take out the
triple gate fold Tommy album,
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there was three copies
of it in the house.
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I'd set up all three copies
and build a little fort
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and then sit in there,
dance around in it,
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try to analyze the
record and figure out
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what everything meant in
it and identified with it.
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So I'd say Tommy
was my first record
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that I was really
focused on and earliest
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remember being
really into that one.
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It was probably a tie between
Ironman and Crocodile Rock
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which was the seven inch
that I remember having.
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But it was totally, we're
talking like little kid
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logic so the connection
being, I used to have reptiles
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and oh Crocodile
Rock, that's my song.
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It's probably that
or Iron Man because
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it was such a little mini epic.
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The one that sticks
out in my head was
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Trini Lopez and for
some reason I used to
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always sing that
song Lemon Tree.
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That would be the one.
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The Hey Jude album
by The Beatles.
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I just listened to this
and stared at the cover
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of them on the back
and on the front
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and listened to the record
over and over and over
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again until I don't
know if I wore it out.
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I probably couldn't
hear the difference
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on that piece of crap I
was listening to it on.
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But I really liked that.
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Whatever the song from
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The Grinch that
Stole Christmas was.
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♪ Wahoo Forest, wahoo Doris,
wahoo Christmas, Christmas Day ♪
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Whatever the one that
was called. I forget.
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That was my favorite
song as a child.
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I would sing it on
May day, Earth day,
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my mother's
birthday, everything.
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Go ahead, next question.
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My mom brought
home a few Beatles albums.
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She brought home Help
and Meet the Beatles
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and maybe one other.
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I really liked it but
a spark wasn't ignited
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until my grandfather bought
me the Woodstock soundtrack
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and I heard Jimi
Hendrix on there.
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Now you have to
understand, I'm maybe 10
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or 11 years old and
I'm listening to this
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and listening to
the Hendrix on that,
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I'm seeing God on that.
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I'd never seen Jimi Hendrix.
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I didn't know what a Jimi
Hendrix was or anything.
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I just saw his name on
the record, Jimi Hendrix.
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From what I heard there,
I thought he was maybe
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a 75 year old, gray haired man,
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sitting on a stool
playing this music.
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I had no idea that
he was who he was.
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But that was the 'Ah ha' moment.
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We went to visit a friend of
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my parents who lived
in Lyland, way out,
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and he had a copy of
Jimi Hendrix, Smash Hits.
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That's the first time I
remember hearing Hendrix.
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I just kept listening to Hey
Joe over and over and again.
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Cadet also just blew my mind.
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I couldn't understand
what was happening.
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Of course The Beatles
were so central
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at that time in my life,
I loved The Beatles.
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The Beatles cartoon was on
so we used to watch that.
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Also The Monkees cartoon
or TV show was on.
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I was very interested in
rock and roll early on.
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Hendrix was really,
that was sort of scary.
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That was a different
kind of music.
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Then Janis Joplin, who was
also really significant.
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I have two older brothers
and they were both into
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different kinds of music,
but one love they shared
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was The Beatles and I
have a distinct memory
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in my very early childhood
of always hearing that first
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chord in A Hard Day's
Night on the record player
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and it always
grabbed my attention
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and then I'd start dancing
around and then as soon as
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they allowed me to touch
their Beatles records
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I started touching them
and looking at them
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and smelling them and
listening to them under
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00:16:11,487 --> 00:16:13,454
their supervision so I
wouldn't scratch them.
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It was that first chord in
A Hard Day's Night for sure.
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I mean I don't have just
one story, but just like you,
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my father is involved
with my music foundation.
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He managed rock bands in the
60s and so the first band
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he put out would be 1966,
so I was like eight or nine.
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I started going with
him to shows and stuff.
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It's about the same
time I saw The Beatles
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on The Ed Sullivan
Show, which I remember
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me and my brother sitting
in front and watching that
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and going back in our
room and acting it out.
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00:16:50,664 --> 00:16:55,083
I think I was the drummer on
an ottoman with some kind of
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pieces of wood or something
and then we just pretended
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to play, like we were
The Beatles or something!
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Fourth of July, 1977 and we
were lighting off sparklers
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and I had never lit
a sparkler before
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and so I decided that
it would be interesting
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00:17:14,930 --> 00:17:18,139
to see what it felt like if
I touched the sparkly part,
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00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:21,763
and so I touched it
and burnt my finger.
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00:17:21,764 --> 00:17:24,559
I remember just
getting a piece of ice
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and putting it on my finger and
going into my friend's house
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for the ice and on television
was Yellow Submarine.
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I'd maybe heard of The Beatles,
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00:17:36,917 --> 00:17:39,367
but the cartoon Yellow
Submarine was on television
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00:17:39,368 --> 00:17:41,473
and I had this piece
of ice on my finger
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00:17:41,474 --> 00:17:44,959
watching Yellow Submarine
and it just being whoa.
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00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,547
When I was growing up my parents
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bought us this
horrible, huge plastic
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00:17:50,966 --> 00:17:54,417
I guess jukebox, it
looked like a jukebox
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00:17:54,418 --> 00:17:56,143
but it was just a
big piece of plastic
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that was empty and
it had speakers
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and just a really
bad little turn table
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00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:03,184
and it sounded horrible,
but they bought us that.
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00:18:03,185 --> 00:18:06,774
I think at a yard sale,
just grabbed a box of 45s.
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I remember this
seven inch, which was
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00:18:09,191 --> 00:18:13,437
The Beatles, Help and on
the back side is I'm Down.
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00:18:15,439 --> 00:18:19,098
My parents came home
with the White album.
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00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,791
It might not have been
right when it came out.
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But I was maybe three
or four years old
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00:18:27,036 --> 00:18:31,523
and I think why that hit me was
because everything about it.
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If you're a little kid
and you're just kind of
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00:18:33,077 --> 00:18:35,043
opening up and it's
this white cover,
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it's a gate fold, it's
a couple of records.
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There's a song on it
that's not really music,
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00:18:40,636 --> 00:18:43,811
like Revolution
Nine and all of this
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00:18:43,812 --> 00:18:45,778
and I just remember
that's a big one for me
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00:18:45,779 --> 00:18:48,229
and that's one of
the first things
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00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:50,438
that was like, "Whoa.
What's going on?
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"What are these other records
that they have in the house?"
347
00:18:52,786 --> 00:18:55,962
When I was four,
five, six I thought
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liking music was girly, it
was something girls did.
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00:19:03,003 --> 00:19:07,041
I had this weird twisted,
masculine sort of
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00:19:07,042 --> 00:19:10,320
thing attached to
it, it was so weird.
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00:19:10,321 --> 00:19:15,015
But secretly, I remember
melodies going through my head.
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00:19:16,396 --> 00:19:19,640
Things I would hear on the
radio, this was the early 60s.
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You know, these goofy pop songs.
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00:19:26,613 --> 00:19:29,513
The first time that
I just couldn't
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00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:32,756
resist anymore was The Beatles.
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00:19:32,757 --> 00:19:35,138
The Beatles, I mean, you
couldn't have been around
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00:19:35,139 --> 00:19:39,626
in '63, '64 and not have
been impacted by The Beatles.
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When they were on Ed
Sullivan, it was like
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00:19:44,666 --> 00:19:48,255
the man landing on the
moon, it was as big as
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00:19:48,256 --> 00:19:51,431
the assassination
of JFK in some ways.
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00:19:53,019 --> 00:19:55,503
I mean it was monumental.
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00:19:55,504 --> 00:20:00,094
Riding in my dad's car,
'63 Buick if I remember,
363
00:20:00,095 --> 00:20:04,755
and back then it was just a
regular AM station blasting.
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00:20:06,101 --> 00:20:08,102
Ah, my dad's listening to music.
365
00:20:08,103 --> 00:20:10,173
I'm in the back
with him, whatever.
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00:20:10,174 --> 00:20:15,179
Hearing The Beatles Revolution
come on, that guitar,
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00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,423
I was like
what the hell is that?
368
00:20:18,424 --> 00:20:22,254
Kind of shook me up. What
the fuck is this? You know?
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00:20:22,255 --> 00:20:24,877
I was like wow,
man. Listen to that.
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00:20:24,878 --> 00:20:27,086
And it just dropped, duh duh duh
371
00:20:27,087 --> 00:20:28,674
♪ Do you want a revolution
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00:20:28,675 --> 00:20:32,230
Back then, lyrics didn't really
mean much to me, you know?
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It was just like the music just
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00:20:34,336 --> 00:20:36,441
hit me like wow,
this is amazing!
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00:20:36,442 --> 00:20:37,787
When I was four
or five years old
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00:20:37,788 --> 00:20:39,823
I had a little transistor radio
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00:20:39,824 --> 00:20:42,792
and I'd listen to
the AM station, WMEX
378
00:20:42,793 --> 00:20:45,381
and they played the
rock and roll of the day
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00:20:45,382 --> 00:20:48,176
like The Stones and
Beatles and all that.
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00:20:48,177 --> 00:20:50,800
I started listening
to these songs
381
00:20:50,801 --> 00:20:53,492
and I'd tell my parents later,
382
00:20:53,493 --> 00:20:55,149
"Hey, I heard this
song on the radio
383
00:20:55,150 --> 00:20:56,909
can you get me the
record, is that okay?"
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00:20:56,910 --> 00:21:00,119
They started getting me
records and I remember having
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00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:04,400
Beatles stuff in the house,
mostly singles and mostly 45s.
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00:21:04,401 --> 00:21:05,953
I was a carsick kid and I was in
387
00:21:05,954 --> 00:21:07,437
the back of the station wagon.
388
00:21:07,438 --> 00:21:09,715
My brother and sister were in
the seat behind mom and dad
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00:21:09,716 --> 00:21:12,718
and I was in the very back,
trying to keep from puking and
390
00:21:12,719 --> 00:21:16,412
the song A Horse with No Name
came on the radio by America.
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00:21:16,413 --> 00:21:19,138
In retrospect it's kind
of a moment I can point to
392
00:21:19,139 --> 00:21:22,626
that sort of shaped
me or I realized later
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00:21:24,973 --> 00:21:29,528
it kind of steered me in the
direction that I went in,
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00:21:29,529 --> 00:21:33,809
to be a musician as a career
or life as a musician.
395
00:21:34,983 --> 00:21:36,880
That song cured me
from being carsick.
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00:21:36,881 --> 00:21:38,330
That's kind of miraculous.
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00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:41,057
My grandparents
had this old radio
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00:21:41,058 --> 00:21:45,683
and I used to listen to it,
they played a lot of oldies.
399
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:50,204
I guess they weren't
that old at the time
400
00:21:50,205 --> 00:21:52,310
but they were still old enough.
401
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:56,936
They were late 50s as opposed
to like 60s, which it was.
402
00:22:00,974 --> 00:22:04,908
The song came on, La
Bamba, and I thought,
403
00:22:04,909 --> 00:22:07,532
"Wow this is a
really cool song."
404
00:22:07,533 --> 00:22:09,188
I just thought that
riff was just amazing.
405
00:22:12,469 --> 00:22:14,884
I think when I was an infant
the radio was on constantly.
406
00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:18,992
My dad's always playing
his swing big band music.
407
00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:24,928
Songs that kind of stuck
in my head from that time
408
00:22:24,929 --> 00:22:28,656
are probably Three Little
Fishies, ever heard that song?
409
00:22:28,657 --> 00:22:31,107
Ever heard that song?
410
00:22:31,108 --> 00:22:34,352
Growing up in Boston, the
radio station was called WRKO.
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00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,769
It was an AM station. 68 RKO.
412
00:22:38,253 --> 00:22:41,981
They would play what we
call one hit wonders.
413
00:22:45,053 --> 00:22:47,641
I head The Surfaris and
that was the one song
414
00:22:47,642 --> 00:22:49,608
I just said, "This
is cool as hell."
415
00:22:49,609 --> 00:22:52,680
I went out and walked
about one and a half miles
416
00:22:52,681 --> 00:22:54,855
to the only record
store in my town,
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00:22:54,856 --> 00:22:58,859
right outside of Boston,
to buy this record.
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00:22:58,860 --> 00:23:02,483
It was like 75 cents brand
new and it was Wipe Out,
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00:23:02,484 --> 00:23:05,417
Surfaris on one side and
Surfer Joe on the other.
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00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:07,626
What I thought was
really cool, was Wipe Out
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00:23:07,627 --> 00:23:10,353
didn't have any vocals
and Surfer Joe did.
422
00:23:10,354 --> 00:23:11,837
It was all about California.
423
00:23:11,838 --> 00:23:14,875
That actually drew interest
in me to go to California.
424
00:23:14,876 --> 00:23:19,121
I found an AM radio in
the garbage and it worked.
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00:23:21,227 --> 00:23:24,574
Then I went and I bought
a little head phone
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00:23:24,575 --> 00:23:28,958
and it was like no matter
what me and my two brothers
427
00:23:28,959 --> 00:23:30,718
were going through
in a foster home,
428
00:23:30,719 --> 00:23:33,583
which it got closed
down by the state.
429
00:23:33,584 --> 00:23:36,104
It was a pretty abusive place.
430
00:23:37,277 --> 00:23:39,589
But no matter what
I was going through,
431
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:42,834
every night when my
brothers fell asleep,
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00:23:42,835 --> 00:23:46,182
I would be under the blanket
with that head phone in
433
00:23:46,183 --> 00:23:51,188
listening to all the music on
AM radio which was soul music.
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00:23:53,086 --> 00:23:57,366
Sly and the Family Stone
and the emotion coming off
435
00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:01,060
that stuff... you
know, Sam Cooke,
436
00:24:02,475 --> 00:24:06,029
just all the old school stuff
really helped me get through
437
00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,584
a lot of that stuff
I was dealing with.
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00:24:08,585 --> 00:24:10,620
Music made all the
pain of the other
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00:24:10,621 --> 00:24:13,278
stuff subside for
a little while.
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00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,763
It was as much visual
as it was auditory.
441
00:24:15,764 --> 00:24:18,732
Literally it was a
matter of like going
442
00:24:18,733 --> 00:24:22,943
and buying comic books
in the local record store
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00:24:22,944 --> 00:24:26,947
slash head shop, I'm
looking up at the walls
444
00:24:26,948 --> 00:24:31,296
and going, "Oh look
at that Boston record!
445
00:24:31,297 --> 00:24:32,953
"Look at that Beatles record!
446
00:24:32,954 --> 00:24:34,679
"Look at that Stones record!
447
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,921
"Look at that Zeppelin record!"
448
00:24:35,922 --> 00:24:38,959
How badass and cool
are these images?
449
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,204
Think about an eight year old
mind looking at a Roger Dean,
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00:24:43,205 --> 00:24:47,277
Yes cover going, "What
the hell is that?!"
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00:24:47,278 --> 00:24:49,004
My mind is expanding!
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00:24:50,247 --> 00:24:53,007
There was a record
store on the Cape
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00:24:53,008 --> 00:24:55,320
that I would walk
into and you'd see
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00:24:55,321 --> 00:24:58,772
the shelves of vinyl
up against the walls.
455
00:24:58,773 --> 00:25:01,706
Okay that looks cool,
like even Meat Loaf.
456
00:25:01,707 --> 00:25:03,949
That first Meat Loaf
record it was like,
457
00:25:03,950 --> 00:25:05,468
"Wow! Look at that
record cover!"
458
00:25:05,469 --> 00:25:07,608
I bought the record, I was
like this fucking sucks.
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00:25:07,609 --> 00:25:11,716
But at the time, it
wasn't like you could just
460
00:25:11,717 --> 00:25:13,441
take the records
out and put them on
461
00:25:13,442 --> 00:25:14,995
and listen to them at the time.
462
00:25:14,996 --> 00:25:16,237
That wasn't a thing.
463
00:25:16,238 --> 00:25:18,170
They'd have them on
maybe in the store
464
00:25:18,171 --> 00:25:21,898
and you'd hear something,
but a lot of times back then
465
00:25:21,899 --> 00:25:25,247
you went by, gosh
this cover is awesome.
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00:25:27,215 --> 00:25:30,976
Maybe you could find
Cream magazine or Circus,
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00:25:30,977 --> 00:25:35,222
sort of get an idea of
what a group might be like.
468
00:25:35,223 --> 00:25:40,228
My first real personal
experience with music was from TV.
469
00:25:41,229 --> 00:25:43,300
I know it's
embarrassing, but true.
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00:25:44,681 --> 00:25:47,268
My first record that I asked
my mother to buy for me
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00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:50,548
was Bobby Sherman,
not Sean Cassidy.
472
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,654
Sean Cassidy's wings
were a little too wingy.
473
00:25:53,655 --> 00:25:55,863
He was too soft for
me, Bobby Sherman
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00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:57,520
had a little more umph to him.
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00:25:57,521 --> 00:26:00,799
There was a fold out and
I hung it on my wall.
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00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,285
I think I was seven years old.
477
00:26:04,632 --> 00:26:07,116
When I was a kid I
lived on Targee Street
478
00:26:07,117 --> 00:26:09,808
in Staton Island across the
street from the court house
479
00:26:09,809 --> 00:26:14,642
and we lived downstairs in the
basement ground floor thing.
480
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,992
The back was my father's tool
shop or whatever, you know?
481
00:26:20,993 --> 00:26:25,341
The front was kind of like a
play room kind of whatever.
482
00:26:25,342 --> 00:26:28,447
We had a stereo down
there and all these
483
00:26:28,448 --> 00:26:30,691
eight tracks, tons
of eight tracks.
484
00:26:30,692 --> 00:26:34,557
Bobby Sherman, Voltic,
Partridge Family.
485
00:26:34,558 --> 00:26:38,286
But we had Goats Head
Soup by Rolling Stones.
486
00:26:39,736 --> 00:26:41,909
I remember my
brother playing and
487
00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:44,222
singing along to Star Fucker.
488
00:26:44,223 --> 00:26:47,226
As kids, I thought
that was amazing.
489
00:26:49,193 --> 00:26:52,369
That and Simon and
Garfunkel, I loved.
490
00:26:53,473 --> 00:26:55,371
I guess I was like
three or four years old
491
00:26:55,372 --> 00:26:58,063
and I knew all the
lyrics to Cecilia.
492
00:26:58,064 --> 00:27:00,100
I used to sing
that all the time.
493
00:27:00,101 --> 00:27:03,379
As soon as it came on in
the car, we were driving.
494
00:27:03,380 --> 00:27:04,829
You had a three
year old kid singing
495
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:07,383
about a girl cheating on ya.
496
00:27:07,384 --> 00:27:10,144
What made me start paying
attention to music was
497
00:27:10,145 --> 00:27:12,595
what also made me not pay
attention to music for
498
00:27:12,596 --> 00:27:15,874
a couple years, which was
having to listen to my father
499
00:27:15,875 --> 00:27:19,740
play country music on his
guitar along with his friends.
500
00:27:19,741 --> 00:27:22,329
Every night, all day
long it seemed like.
501
00:27:22,330 --> 00:27:25,228
Everyday, 24/7 it seemed like.
502
00:27:25,229 --> 00:27:29,717
The same old junk from the
40s and 50s and I hated it.
503
00:27:31,235 --> 00:27:36,240
That was my first exposure to
music and they play 50s songs.
504
00:27:37,932 --> 00:27:41,382
My mother loved Elvis and I
could care less about any of it.
505
00:27:41,383 --> 00:27:42,694
Nothing drew me in at all until,
506
00:27:42,695 --> 00:27:45,248
like you mentioned,
Led Zeppelin.
507
00:27:45,249 --> 00:27:48,458
When I was nine years old,
Led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love
508
00:27:48,459 --> 00:27:50,806
came out as a single and
was being played everywhere
509
00:27:50,807 --> 00:27:53,774
and that part in the middle
where the sound effects
510
00:27:53,775 --> 00:27:55,845
would come in and he
started breathing heavy
511
00:27:55,846 --> 00:27:58,365
and he's like "ahh ahh ahh"
512
00:27:58,366 --> 00:28:01,471
Actually disturbed me to a
degree, but attracted me also.
513
00:28:01,472 --> 00:28:06,029
Being disturbed, and a little
bit today, and attractive
514
00:28:07,616 --> 00:28:10,757
I was drawn into that song.
515
00:28:10,758 --> 00:28:14,243
That was one of the first
albums I ended up buying.
516
00:28:14,244 --> 00:28:15,969
You grew up in Los Angeles
517
00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:19,351
and there were long
drives and back then
518
00:28:19,352 --> 00:28:21,664
you didn't really have
a cassette player.
519
00:28:21,665 --> 00:28:23,666
You listened to the AM radio.
520
00:28:23,667 --> 00:28:26,807
There were a lot of AM radio,
you know The Beach Boys,
521
00:28:26,808 --> 00:28:29,051
The Beatles, that kind of stuff.
522
00:28:29,052 --> 00:28:31,882
I distinctly
remember Cat Stevens.
523
00:28:33,608 --> 00:28:36,058
This was like late
60s early 70s.
524
00:28:36,059 --> 00:28:39,717
My brother got
a reel to reel player
525
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:43,065
and the first recollection
I have of listening to music
526
00:28:43,066 --> 00:28:46,725
or hearing it was West
Side Story soundtrack
527
00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:51,868
and the song Gee Officer
Krupke was my first
528
00:28:53,939 --> 00:28:56,319
recollection of
any kind of music.
529
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,045
My mom was a big music fan.
530
00:28:58,046 --> 00:29:00,945
My parents split up
when I was young,
531
00:29:00,946 --> 00:29:04,570
but they both were
record... not collectors
532
00:29:05,882 --> 00:29:08,400
but it was the 60s
and everybody had
533
00:29:08,401 --> 00:29:11,231
Herb Albert and stuff like that.
534
00:29:11,232 --> 00:29:14,337
My mom, she was really
into The 5th Dimension
535
00:29:14,338 --> 00:29:19,343
and so that was kind of the
first song, Up Up and Away,
536
00:29:20,551 --> 00:29:21,759
that I really got
into 'cause my mom
537
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,002
would fucking play
that song twice a day.
538
00:29:24,003 --> 00:29:26,729
When I was really little
there was this record called
539
00:29:26,730 --> 00:29:28,973
Journey to the Center of
the Earth by Rick Wakeman
540
00:29:28,974 --> 00:29:31,803
and that record like,
I was super into it
541
00:29:31,804 --> 00:29:34,772
because it had a gate fold
sleeve with a kind of like
542
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,671
weird iguana that was dressed
up in this crazy background
543
00:29:37,672 --> 00:29:40,432
to look like a giant
dinosaur living in a cave in
544
00:29:40,433 --> 00:29:42,814
the center of the earth
and it was narrated by
545
00:29:42,815 --> 00:29:46,507
Viv Stantial maybe,
it was one of those
546
00:29:46,508 --> 00:29:49,338
important sounding British
dudes who would tell the story.
547
00:29:49,339 --> 00:29:52,375
In between give the
narration and between
548
00:29:52,376 --> 00:29:55,206
the Prague, people with
swords or whatever.
549
00:29:55,207 --> 00:29:57,139
Well my dad was who
he was and he loved
550
00:29:57,140 --> 00:30:01,350
and listened to and knew,
inside and out, classical music.
551
00:30:01,351 --> 00:30:04,767
These are highly complex,
if you've ever seen
552
00:30:04,768 --> 00:30:07,149
a music sheet for
an orchestra for
553
00:30:07,150 --> 00:30:10,980
classical music, Brahms,
Beethoven, Chopin,
554
00:30:10,981 --> 00:30:15,088
my dad loved Chopin, and
Mozart and et cetera.
555
00:30:15,089 --> 00:30:19,851
He could whistle along to an
entire symphony of Beethovin.
556
00:30:19,852 --> 00:30:22,095
He would hear a little
snippet that guys like you
557
00:30:22,096 --> 00:30:24,442
or me would not, I mean
it would sound nice.
558
00:30:24,443 --> 00:30:25,823
We would say that it was pretty.
559
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,514
We might even know,
I'm at the stage where
560
00:30:27,515 --> 00:30:29,654
I kind of know it's
Mozart versus Beethovin.
561
00:30:29,655 --> 00:30:31,242
I kind of know
those distinctions,
562
00:30:31,243 --> 00:30:35,868
but I don't know that's Mozzart's
Suite in E minor or that's
563
00:30:37,283 --> 00:30:39,595
Beethovin's... okay
Beethovin's Ninth is easy.
564
00:30:39,596 --> 00:30:43,081
But there are some that are
difficult and my dad, instant.
565
00:30:43,082 --> 00:30:45,497
So I grew up with
that permeating to me,
566
00:30:45,498 --> 00:30:48,328
so I think that had a lot to
do with my sense of melody
567
00:30:48,329 --> 00:30:50,951
my sense of timing,
building, layering, you know?
568
00:30:50,952 --> 00:30:53,574
All of that is
incredibly complex stuff
569
00:30:53,575 --> 00:30:55,197
that you don't just
pick up easily.
570
00:30:55,198 --> 00:30:57,440
I'm grateful to him
for that, so that was
571
00:30:57,441 --> 00:30:59,857
sort of the planting
of the seeds.
572
00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:01,582
When I was 10 to 12 months,
573
00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:03,653
I guess this doesn't
really count as a memory
574
00:31:03,654 --> 00:31:06,691
'cause it's before I
remember it, but I always had
575
00:31:06,692 --> 00:31:09,694
lots of music around growing
up and Aretha Franklin
576
00:31:09,695 --> 00:31:13,732
Respect, the background vocals
of the ree-ree-ree part.
577
00:31:13,733 --> 00:31:15,907
I would stand up in
my crib and yell,
578
00:31:15,908 --> 00:31:18,910
"Ree-ree-ree-ree" whenever
I wanted to hear music.
579
00:31:18,911 --> 00:31:21,395
I guess that's my first
identifying with music
580
00:31:21,396 --> 00:31:25,123
and sort of like, probably
one of my first words too,
581
00:31:25,124 --> 00:31:26,884
as it being counted as a word.
582
00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:29,921
My memory is of being very young
583
00:31:29,922 --> 00:31:33,200
at my dad's apartment
in Columbus, Ohio
584
00:31:33,201 --> 00:31:35,754
and my parents were divorced
when I was pretty young.
585
00:31:35,755 --> 00:31:37,895
I lived in Cleveland.
He lived in Columbus.
586
00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,381
I think he had ordered a K-tel
587
00:31:42,038 --> 00:31:45,834
Little Richard, just
like off the television,
588
00:31:46,801 --> 00:31:49,355
Little Richard's Greatest Hits.
589
00:31:52,048 --> 00:31:55,361
I just remember
literally dancing around
590
00:31:57,053 --> 00:32:01,954
in our tightey whiteys to
Keep a Knocking or something.
591
00:32:03,093 --> 00:32:05,544
It makes me emotional
to remember this.
592
00:32:09,065 --> 00:32:11,930
But, I mean, how
are you not going
593
00:32:13,069 --> 00:32:16,036
to devote yourself
to music after that.
594
00:32:24,804 --> 00:32:26,909
I discovered a lot
of music through radio
595
00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:29,256
and so there's some
certain DJs that
596
00:32:29,257 --> 00:32:30,948
were really
important in my life.
597
00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:33,709
When they were on
WHFS was a station
598
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:37,023
based in Mathesda,
Maryland that had a couple
599
00:32:37,024 --> 00:32:39,611
DJs that were
really interesting,
600
00:32:39,612 --> 00:32:42,476
playing their own
thing, and didn't
601
00:32:42,477 --> 00:32:46,205
have to play some
corporate song list that...
602
00:32:47,586 --> 00:32:52,349
Late at night I could hear
early blues from this guy Weasel
603
00:32:53,695 --> 00:32:57,353
and discovered so much
about music through DJs
604
00:32:57,354 --> 00:32:59,769
and also discovered punk
rock, it was a great show,
605
00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:03,325
and Mystic Eye, greatest
show on the HFS.
606
00:33:03,326 --> 00:33:05,741
First place I heard
Iggy Pop, you know?
607
00:33:05,742 --> 00:33:08,916
So much music I
learned through DJs.
608
00:33:08,917 --> 00:33:13,059
Discovering FM radio and
discovering on accident
609
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:16,717
Left of the Dial college
radio and hearing
610
00:33:16,718 --> 00:33:21,378
heavy stuff on college radio,
that's what did it for me.
611
00:33:22,828 --> 00:33:27,557
It wasn't any people because
I didn't really know anybody.
612
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:32,941
It was just pretty much me,
so I discovered it through FM.
613
00:33:34,357 --> 00:33:37,152
I would have to say my
biggest influence in music
614
00:33:37,153 --> 00:33:42,158
that really got me into punk
rock was my cousin Choochee.
615
00:33:43,262 --> 00:33:45,677
I remember, it's a
funny interesting story
616
00:33:45,678 --> 00:33:48,439
because Choochee
was supposed to not
617
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,682
be with us today, he still is!
618
00:33:50,683 --> 00:33:53,858
He had this disease
where he lost one kidney.
619
00:33:53,859 --> 00:33:57,103
He was gonna lose his
second, he was apparently
620
00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:59,622
supposed to die,
but he never did.
621
00:33:59,623 --> 00:34:01,900
The crazy story about
that is his mom,
622
00:34:01,901 --> 00:34:04,075
because we were young,
we were all young.
623
00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:05,870
We were all like
15, 16 years old.
624
00:34:05,871 --> 00:34:08,010
You're son's gonna die.
What are you gonna do?
625
00:34:08,011 --> 00:34:09,218
Give him anything he wants!
626
00:34:09,219 --> 00:34:11,496
So he had a big
Marshall amplifier,
627
00:34:11,497 --> 00:34:14,741
this punk rock band
called Barb Wired Babies.
628
00:34:14,742 --> 00:34:17,502
He was just punked
out, he's doomed
629
00:34:17,503 --> 00:34:19,297
so he's gonna go all out.
630
00:34:19,298 --> 00:34:22,162
I'd go into his room and he'd
be blasting The Sex Pistols
631
00:34:22,163 --> 00:34:25,165
and I was like, "What
the hell is this?"
632
00:34:25,166 --> 00:34:28,479
Then we're doing mescaline
and all crazy out of my minds.
633
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,170
My father's taste was horrible.
634
00:34:30,171 --> 00:34:32,345
Mom's taste was
white trash country.
635
00:34:32,346 --> 00:34:36,626
But my cousin's just, were
two years older than me,
636
00:34:38,421 --> 00:34:42,217
and there was four
of them, they were
637
00:34:42,218 --> 00:34:44,391
twins that were two
years older than me.
638
00:34:44,392 --> 00:34:46,255
I was like 11 and they were 13
639
00:34:46,256 --> 00:34:48,257
and Keith was 15
and Ricky was 17.
640
00:34:48,258 --> 00:34:50,777
They said, "Let's
take him to a concert!
641
00:34:50,778 --> 00:34:53,400
"Let's take the little
kid to the concert."
642
00:34:53,401 --> 00:34:55,609
I was like, "Okay,
I want to go."
643
00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:58,095
My parents go, "What show
are you taking him to?"
644
00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,580
"Oh, it's gonna be
at the Boston Garden.
645
00:35:00,581 --> 00:35:05,586
"It's gonna be fine. This
band is doing a whole opera."
646
00:35:06,311 --> 00:35:07,656
I'm going to an opera?
647
00:35:07,657 --> 00:35:10,797
"Yeah, it's called Quadrophenia.
It's like an opera."
648
00:35:10,798 --> 00:35:13,903
Cousins, it was my
cousins Rhonda and Carrie.
649
00:35:13,904 --> 00:35:18,080
We looked up to them, they were
four, five, six years older
650
00:35:18,081 --> 00:35:20,739
than I am and their basement was
651
00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:24,811
The Monkees, The
Beatles, and KISS.
652
00:35:24,812 --> 00:35:28,470
I do remember Jim Croce
as well, but those were
653
00:35:28,471 --> 00:35:30,886
the main records
we would listen to.
654
00:35:30,887 --> 00:35:33,406
My cousin Jimmy, who lived
around the corner from me
655
00:35:33,407 --> 00:35:36,443
for a few years, he
was a big music fan.
656
00:35:36,444 --> 00:35:39,757
He was mostly into blues
and bluesy rock and roll.
657
00:35:39,758 --> 00:35:42,311
I had just heard Jimi
Hendrix for the first time,
658
00:35:42,312 --> 00:35:45,797
so this is my maybe 14 years
old and I went over to see
659
00:35:45,798 --> 00:35:48,352
Jimmy and said, "Hey, you got
any Jimi Hendrix records?"
660
00:35:48,353 --> 00:35:50,285
He loaned me his
copy of Smash Hits.
661
00:35:50,286 --> 00:35:54,427
He was very generous
loaning me his records.
662
00:35:54,428 --> 00:35:56,981
I still got a few in
the pile down there,
663
00:35:56,982 --> 00:35:59,156
which I'm gonna return
to him one of these days.
664
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,088
I would say it would
be my older cousin,
665
00:36:01,089 --> 00:36:04,713
Johnny, who was
just cool and he's
666
00:36:04,714 --> 00:36:08,095
probably like 10
years older than me.
667
00:36:08,096 --> 00:36:10,788
I would hang out with him
and he'd let me clean out
668
00:36:10,789 --> 00:36:14,688
his weed and we'd go to the
unemployment office together.
669
00:36:14,689 --> 00:36:16,966
I was just his little side kick.
670
00:36:16,967 --> 00:36:20,868
He was very into the
Yankees, that's not music,
671
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,597
but he was into
Bruce Springsteen
672
00:36:26,598 --> 00:36:29,945
and Lynyrd Skynyrd
and Molly Hatchet.
673
00:36:29,946 --> 00:36:32,396
My brother, who's two
years older than I am,
674
00:36:32,397 --> 00:36:35,400
was kind of into
drugs and you know,
675
00:36:37,816 --> 00:36:39,713
he tried to get me to
listen to the Grateful Dead.
676
00:36:39,714 --> 00:36:43,304
I remember at the UCLA,
what was it called?
677
00:36:44,443 --> 00:36:46,962
The Pavilian, or
the UCLA something,
678
00:36:46,963 --> 00:36:48,343
I don't know what it was.
679
00:36:48,344 --> 00:36:50,310
Grateful Dead I
was like, no way.
680
00:36:50,311 --> 00:36:52,381
I'm not going to
The Grateful Dead.
681
00:36:52,382 --> 00:36:56,143
This is where I kind of
already knew about punk,
682
00:36:56,144 --> 00:36:57,386
like I already knew.
683
00:36:57,387 --> 00:36:58,905
I was listening to
Rodney on the Rock.
684
00:36:58,906 --> 00:37:00,596
I'm like, "You want to see
The Grateful Dead, why?"
685
00:37:00,597 --> 00:37:01,529
He's like, "You know
you can take acid
686
00:37:01,530 --> 00:37:02,736
and it's really awesome."
687
00:37:02,737 --> 00:37:03,841
I was like, "No, I
don't want to do that.
688
00:37:03,842 --> 00:37:05,843
"I don't want to do that."
689
00:37:05,844 --> 00:37:08,190
In a way, he was my
inspiration that made me
690
00:37:08,191 --> 00:37:10,641
even more into punk,
because it was like
691
00:37:10,642 --> 00:37:12,988
that is so not what
I'm into right now.
692
00:37:12,989 --> 00:37:15,266
I have a huge answer
to that and I've actually
693
00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:20,098
credited it on record covers
to my older brother Bob.
694
00:37:20,099 --> 00:37:22,135
I've said, "It's your fault!
695
00:37:22,136 --> 00:37:23,861
"You got me into
this whole mess."
696
00:37:23,862 --> 00:37:27,485
Being in the music
business, he really pushed
697
00:37:27,486 --> 00:37:31,524
Hendrix on me, like
you said your dad did
698
00:37:31,525 --> 00:37:34,147
and The Allman Brothers,
Brothers and Sisters.
699
00:37:34,148 --> 00:37:36,460
He's like, "You gotta
hear this Jessica!
700
00:37:36,461 --> 00:37:38,393
"The guitar playing
is amazing on here."
701
00:37:38,394 --> 00:37:41,810
Then Cream, and I'm still
into Clapton big time.
702
00:37:41,811 --> 00:37:43,605
Both of my older
brother's because they had
703
00:37:43,606 --> 00:37:47,609
such different musical
tastes were huge influences.
704
00:37:47,610 --> 00:37:50,888
One brother was listening
to Lynyrd Skynyrd
705
00:37:50,889 --> 00:37:53,062
and The Allman Brothers
and the other brother
706
00:37:53,063 --> 00:37:57,274
was listening to Dylan and
Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell
707
00:37:57,275 --> 00:38:01,588
and later on Patti
Smith and lots of stuff.
708
00:38:01,589 --> 00:38:06,110
But a neighborhood friend of
my brother's, an older kid,
709
00:38:06,111 --> 00:38:11,080
named Eddie Rose in the late
70s came over to the house
710
00:38:11,081 --> 00:38:14,498
with Clash and Ramones
records, the first ones.
711
00:38:14,499 --> 00:38:17,294
That was, you know, legend.
712
00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:20,020
My older brother and
my sister, I was the youngest.
713
00:38:20,021 --> 00:38:23,439
They definitely
influenced me, my brother
714
00:38:25,268 --> 00:38:27,131
because he had the
early Slade records.
715
00:38:27,132 --> 00:38:30,065
They were popular on
Staten Island in the 70s.
716
00:38:30,066 --> 00:38:34,449
Slade was with like the
poor kids, whatever.
717
00:38:34,450 --> 00:38:39,455
The white trash kids, he had
that and-you outta here? Okay.
718
00:38:43,804 --> 00:38:46,081
He had that and Mott the Hoople.
719
00:38:46,082 --> 00:38:49,016
He had Black Sabbath,
Alice Cooper.
720
00:38:50,949 --> 00:38:53,260
My sister was more
into the pop side.
721
00:38:53,261 --> 00:38:57,680
She was into The Baycity
Rollers and stuff like that.
722
00:38:58,888 --> 00:39:01,615
But then Kiss came
into the picture.
723
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,961
I really don't know.
724
00:39:03,962 --> 00:39:06,066
My sister brought
me to The Clash
725
00:39:06,067 --> 00:39:09,069
and then The Clash opened up
my eyes to a whole nother world
726
00:39:09,070 --> 00:39:13,351
of underground music and
I think there were movies.
727
00:39:16,319 --> 00:39:18,941
Stop Making Sense came out
and that was The Taking Heads
728
00:39:18,942 --> 00:39:22,498
and then there was all
these little avenues
729
00:39:23,844 --> 00:39:27,744
and then I heard Gang of
Four and I don't know,
730
00:39:28,918 --> 00:39:31,920
I ended up at some
show in college.
731
00:39:31,921 --> 00:39:36,442
I walked through the kitchen,
in these back hallways,
732
00:39:36,443 --> 00:39:39,445
and ended up in this room and
I was watching Gang of Four.
733
00:39:39,446 --> 00:39:41,412
They were performing
at Carnegie Melon
734
00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:43,449
and I fucking lost
my shit right there!
735
00:39:43,450 --> 00:39:46,659
I was like I love
this band! Oh my god!
736
00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:50,560
Probably my father,
who was a swing jazz guy,
737
00:39:52,597 --> 00:39:56,531
but he was hard core and he
listened to records constantly.
738
00:39:56,532 --> 00:40:01,433
He was just a really avid,
close, critical musical thinker.
739
00:40:03,746 --> 00:40:07,473
Plus, it was a tremendous
gift he gave to me,
740
00:40:07,474 --> 00:40:10,890
he used to take me into
New York to the jazz clubs
741
00:40:10,891 --> 00:40:12,823
to see people that he admired.
742
00:40:12,824 --> 00:40:15,032
That was a tremendous
gift to me.
743
00:40:15,033 --> 00:40:19,865
My father was a television
producer and record companies
744
00:40:23,731 --> 00:40:28,217
would give promo copies to
the TV station for whatever.
745
00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:32,843
He was on the local CBS
affiliate, he did nighttime news.
746
00:40:32,844 --> 00:40:34,672
They had all this
other stuff, and so
747
00:40:34,673 --> 00:40:36,778
they would send him
all these records.
748
00:40:36,779 --> 00:40:41,266
He'd bring records home, so
it was like having Spotify
749
00:40:42,647 --> 00:40:46,374
in 1975 and so my influence
was kind of DIY on it,
750
00:40:48,963 --> 00:40:51,171
but there's always this
rack of new stuff coming.
751
00:40:51,172 --> 00:40:54,037
Toto, oh that's
bad. Like bad good!
752
00:40:56,764 --> 00:40:58,662
Toto's cool, it's got guitar.
753
00:40:58,663 --> 00:41:01,078
Cody Alexander,
he had six other brothers.
754
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,943
He's the youngest
and they're all just
755
00:41:03,944 --> 00:41:08,119
these long haired dudes that
were really into rock and roll.
756
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,537
His older brother, Roy
Alexander, I used to go
757
00:41:11,538 --> 00:41:14,091
into his room when
Cody wasn't around
758
00:41:14,092 --> 00:41:16,058
and I'd get stoned with
Roy and his buddies,
759
00:41:16,059 --> 00:41:18,613
like Boyd and Daryl and
stuff like that, or Dilbert.
760
00:41:18,614 --> 00:41:21,029
We'd listen to Steely Dan.
761
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:24,101
He had Endless Summer
by The Beach Boys.
762
00:41:24,102 --> 00:41:26,897
All the stuff that I
wouldn't have heard normally.
763
00:41:26,898 --> 00:41:29,313
I will give a shout
out to a guy who lived
764
00:41:29,314 --> 00:41:32,350
two doors down, a guy
named Joe McGrath.
765
00:41:32,351 --> 00:41:35,458
I was probably eight
or nine, Joe was
766
00:41:36,770 --> 00:41:39,945
probably the ripe
old age of 12 or 13.
767
00:41:41,326 --> 00:41:45,260
He saw something in
me and literally,
768
00:41:45,261 --> 00:41:49,645
we would hang out, I think
Joe smoked the pot as well
769
00:41:51,612 --> 00:41:55,442
but that never came
into our conversations.
770
00:41:55,443 --> 00:42:00,379
He would turn me onto the
first three Aerosmith records,
771
00:42:01,795 --> 00:42:04,694
the first two Alice Cooper
records, Black Sabbath.
772
00:42:06,593 --> 00:42:08,801
For me and my friends,
773
00:42:08,802 --> 00:42:10,423
it was a guy named Matt Fields,
774
00:42:10,424 --> 00:42:12,529
who still is a dear
friend of mine.
775
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:15,533
I remember I met
Matt at a JCC dance
776
00:42:17,258 --> 00:42:19,052
and he was wearing a trench coat
777
00:42:19,053 --> 00:42:22,159
and a Joy Division pin
and had like six rat tails
778
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,818
and we immediately met
and became best friends.
779
00:42:25,819 --> 00:42:28,993
It was through him that we
all started listening to
780
00:42:28,994 --> 00:42:33,171
XTC, the entire first wave
of 4AD bands, Parooboo.
781
00:42:38,348 --> 00:42:42,110
Damon Locks, who's still
one of my best friends
782
00:42:42,111 --> 00:42:44,837
in the world, and Derek
Bish who was his friend
783
00:42:44,838 --> 00:42:47,460
who I'm still friends
with and Chris O'Conner.
784
00:42:47,461 --> 00:42:50,014
These were just three
kids, that we were
785
00:42:50,015 --> 00:42:52,292
all in this art magnet together.
786
00:42:52,293 --> 00:42:57,263
I was doing these faux HR
airbrush paintings and stuff
787
00:42:57,264 --> 00:43:02,096
and I think they kind of rescued
me and they started making
788
00:43:03,546 --> 00:43:07,999
me tapes of DC punk rock and
just like whatever it was.
789
00:43:09,379 --> 00:43:11,035
When we got to high
school there was this
790
00:43:11,036 --> 00:43:12,899
transfer kid from California
named Richard Bash.
791
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,212
He's the one that brought
us to our first show.
792
00:43:15,213 --> 00:43:17,490
He's the one that said,
"Oh! Black Flag is playing."
793
00:43:17,491 --> 00:43:19,872
Oh yeah, we like Black Flag.
794
00:43:19,873 --> 00:43:21,805
He's like, "Well,
we're all gonna go."
795
00:43:21,806 --> 00:43:24,980
Around that time
we're just buying up
796
00:43:24,981 --> 00:43:26,568
all the records
that we can based
797
00:43:26,569 --> 00:43:28,328
on what he's sort
of letting us know.
798
00:43:28,329 --> 00:43:31,055
He's like, "Oh you should
check out Minor Threat."
799
00:43:31,056 --> 00:43:33,782
They're from here, so my
friend Dave went out and bought
800
00:43:33,783 --> 00:43:38,338
the record and it was like,
we thought it was illegal.
801
00:43:38,339 --> 00:43:41,652
It was just like ♪
Fuck yeah, fucking shit
802
00:43:41,653 --> 00:43:43,378
The amount of cursing
that was going on,
803
00:43:43,379 --> 00:43:45,760
we're like I don't
know if we're allowed
804
00:43:45,761 --> 00:43:47,278
to listen to that,
but I really like it!
805
00:43:47,279 --> 00:43:49,833
My best friend Mark
Haggardy, who I was
806
00:43:49,834 --> 00:43:51,731
in bands with later,
me and him sort of
807
00:43:51,732 --> 00:43:53,526
discovered rock music
at the same time
808
00:43:53,527 --> 00:43:55,321
and started really
getting into it.
809
00:43:55,322 --> 00:43:59,083
A lot of it was just us
feeding off of each other.
810
00:43:59,084 --> 00:44:00,947
Going to record stores
together, watching all
811
00:44:00,948 --> 00:44:04,399
the TV show specials
with bands from the 60s
812
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,988
and taking notes on them
and later when we get
813
00:44:06,989 --> 00:44:10,647
into punk rock, going
through photo magazines
814
00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:13,270
and trying to pick bands
off of people's jackets.
815
00:44:13,271 --> 00:44:15,513
I wonder what that is! 999!
816
00:44:15,514 --> 00:44:18,309
That looks cool, let's
check out that record!
817
00:44:18,310 --> 00:44:20,380
If he's got it on his jacket,
maybe it's worth listening to.
818
00:44:20,381 --> 00:44:23,383
My best friend, Eric Neil,
he had an older brother
819
00:44:23,384 --> 00:44:26,524
who was friends with
The Feelies, who were
820
00:44:26,525 --> 00:44:30,012
kind of a popular indie
band at that time.
821
00:44:31,289 --> 00:44:35,016
But Fritz Neil was his
name, the older brother,
822
00:44:35,017 --> 00:44:39,676
and Fritz turned us both
onto The Clash, I remember
823
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:44,129
Plastic Bertrand,
824
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:48,892
obviously the early Ramones,
and all these things.
825
00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:53,241
Fritz Neil probably has no
idea, he probably doesn't
826
00:44:53,242 --> 00:44:54,829
remember any of that,
but he would put all
827
00:44:54,830 --> 00:44:57,383
this stuff in you know, "Try
this, try this, try this."
828
00:44:57,384 --> 00:45:01,111
I was like a junkie. I needed
more and more and more.
829
00:45:01,112 --> 00:45:02,526
So I'm working
at this restaurant
830
00:45:02,527 --> 00:45:06,427
and these two cooks were
just blasting 77 punk.
831
00:45:07,532 --> 00:45:11,086
They were blasting
Plasmatics, The Ramones
832
00:45:11,087 --> 00:45:14,883
and telling the stories
about them going to the Rath
833
00:45:14,884 --> 00:45:18,991
Underground Paradise,
places that I was too young
834
00:45:18,992 --> 00:45:21,096
to go to and I'd
heard a lot about.
835
00:45:21,097 --> 00:45:25,066
From '78 to '80 I was locked
up and I went into the navy.
836
00:45:25,067 --> 00:45:29,208
Then I was stationed in
Northfolk and there was
837
00:45:29,209 --> 00:45:33,108
this dude down there, I think
his name was Dave or Dan.
838
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:37,872
He was a mod dude. He was into
the jam, but he was British.
839
00:45:37,873 --> 00:45:42,394
He knew all the fucking punk
shit from, this was 1980.
840
00:45:43,982 --> 00:45:46,432
He knew all the punk
shit from London
841
00:45:46,433 --> 00:45:50,022
and turned me onto this
Live at the Vortex.
842
00:45:50,023 --> 00:45:54,475
I started really getting
into a lot more of The Clash
843
00:45:59,170 --> 00:46:02,620
and The Damned and
obviously The Pistols,
844
00:46:02,621 --> 00:46:04,588
but I heard them in the 70s.
845
00:46:04,589 --> 00:46:09,007
He had a real great sense
of what music was going on.
846
00:46:10,181 --> 00:46:12,113
Henry Rawlins,
we started hanging out.
847
00:46:12,114 --> 00:46:13,390
I remember going to his house.
848
00:46:13,391 --> 00:46:16,773
He had a BB gun. We'd
go into his basement.
849
00:46:16,774 --> 00:46:19,846
He had a piece of
foam against a wall
850
00:46:21,019 --> 00:46:24,540
and a cigar box he put
poker chips in slots
851
00:46:25,955 --> 00:46:29,095
and we'd just sit there
and shoot the poker chips.
852
00:46:29,096 --> 00:46:32,098
He had a Crosman 760
Pump Action Rifle
853
00:46:32,099 --> 00:46:36,103
and a little Co2 Pistol
and I remember listening
854
00:46:37,242 --> 00:46:41,763
to Cheech and Chong,
Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin.
855
00:46:41,764 --> 00:46:45,491
That's where I first heard
Nugent, was in his basement.
856
00:46:45,492 --> 00:46:48,701
Henry Rawlins, he is
absolutely the most influential
857
00:46:48,702 --> 00:46:53,017
music taste maker of my
early interest in punk music
858
00:46:56,365 --> 00:46:57,814
and then other
music, and still is.
859
00:46:57,815 --> 00:46:59,885
I still listen to his
radio show and always hear
860
00:46:59,886 --> 00:47:02,957
something that is interesting
even if I don't like it.
861
00:47:02,958 --> 00:47:05,062
I was actually
the one that turned
862
00:47:05,063 --> 00:47:07,099
most of my friends
onto certain bands.
863
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:10,619
I would be out there buying
anything that looked
864
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:13,865
interesting at yard
sales or something.
865
00:47:15,556 --> 00:47:20,216
I had a collection of probably
2500 albums at one point.
866
00:47:22,460 --> 00:47:24,495
I discovered music cheaply until
867
00:47:24,496 --> 00:47:27,085
I learned how to shoplift well.
868
00:47:27,983 --> 00:47:31,709
♪ Why am I going insane
869
00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:35,197
♪ Why am I the one to pay
870
00:47:36,646 --> 00:47:38,164
What records made
me who I today?
871
00:47:38,165 --> 00:47:40,857
Which is an interesting
question because I mean
872
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:44,689
I'm sitting here decades
later, still probably
873
00:47:47,381 --> 00:47:51,040
over involved with
music, never looked back.
874
00:47:54,699 --> 00:47:58,944
To me, the most influential
record as a person
875
00:47:58,945 --> 00:48:03,258
was SS Decontrol's The
Kids Will Have Their Say.
876
00:48:03,259 --> 00:48:05,951
If there was ever sort
of a scene maker band
877
00:48:05,952 --> 00:48:09,576
for Boston hardcore,
DIY independent action
878
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:16,376
fought involvement,
that was SS Decontrol.
879
00:48:18,102 --> 00:48:20,586
First Generation X
record, and this record
880
00:48:20,587 --> 00:48:23,416
I listened to more than
anything else in the 80s,
881
00:48:23,417 --> 00:48:26,179
pretty much until
this came along
882
00:48:27,283 --> 00:48:30,768
which I probably
listened to even more.
883
00:48:30,769 --> 00:48:33,426
Between these two, both
in G, those would be
884
00:48:33,427 --> 00:48:36,983
my formative sort of
80s punk rock records.
885
00:48:38,087 --> 00:48:39,398
This one.
886
00:48:39,399 --> 00:48:42,402
This record as a
musician is like...
887
00:48:45,715 --> 00:48:48,752
I love this record
it's like flawless.
888
00:48:48,753 --> 00:48:50,719
It's hilarious. It's powerful.
889
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,206
It's snotty. It's intelligent.
890
00:48:57,727 --> 00:48:59,418
Yeah, I like this one.
891
00:48:59,419 --> 00:49:02,869
Outcasts, Self
Conscious Over You.
892
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:06,080
First album. Bell
faced die on a dare.
893
00:49:06,081 --> 00:49:10,602
This album's beautiful. It's
just so innocent, really.
894
00:49:14,468 --> 00:49:16,918
They could barely
play their instruments
895
00:49:16,919 --> 00:49:20,542
and the timing's off
and they're singing
896
00:49:20,543 --> 00:49:24,788
love songs and stuff like
that about being a teenager
897
00:49:24,789 --> 00:49:29,586
while bombs are going off
in the streets outside.
898
00:49:29,587 --> 00:49:33,210
This album without
a doubt meant a lot
899
00:49:33,211 --> 00:49:36,420
to me growing up and
even to this day.
900
00:49:36,421 --> 00:49:39,113
I mean I don't even
have to think about that.
901
00:49:39,114 --> 00:49:41,770
The Bad Brains first album
'cause I was living in
902
00:49:41,771 --> 00:49:44,946
the studio with them at
171 when they recorded it.
903
00:49:44,947 --> 00:49:47,397
So seeing what they
were living through.
904
00:49:47,398 --> 00:49:49,986
For me, it's not just
I put the record on.
905
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:53,161
Every song has a story to it.
906
00:49:53,162 --> 00:49:56,578
I was there when HR
was recording it.
907
00:49:56,579 --> 00:49:58,511
The guys were talking about it.
908
00:49:58,512 --> 00:50:00,582
We were living it, I
was living it with them
909
00:50:00,583 --> 00:50:03,551
when that record was being made.
910
00:50:03,552 --> 00:50:05,725
To this day there
ain't a fucking band
911
00:50:05,726 --> 00:50:08,280
on the planet that
could touch those guys
912
00:50:08,281 --> 00:50:10,213
musically or
lyrically or anything.
913
00:50:10,214 --> 00:50:14,287
Having been there when
the late great Jay Dublee,
914
00:50:16,875 --> 00:50:19,430
God rest his soul, recorded it.
915
00:50:20,603 --> 00:50:23,467
It's like nobody
made The Bad Brains
916
00:50:23,468 --> 00:50:27,678
sound that way on any
record to this day.
917
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:30,647
Obviously The Bad Brains are
a huge influence for my band.
918
00:50:30,648 --> 00:50:34,720
A lot of British punk,
Jam 69, The Damned.
919
00:50:34,721 --> 00:50:37,516
All those records.
Over and over again.
920
00:50:37,517 --> 00:50:41,347
You know, Iggy Pop,
Stranglers, The Sonics.
921
00:50:41,348 --> 00:50:43,108
It's so crazy now, you hear them
922
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:45,696
on TV commercials, but
when we first started
923
00:50:45,697 --> 00:50:47,664
getting into them,
no one heard them.
924
00:50:47,665 --> 00:50:50,149
Those are the garage punk bands
925
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:52,910
and the punk bands
that got us into music.
926
00:50:52,911 --> 00:50:56,812
Hearing the first Blag
Flag single, whew man.
927
00:50:58,158 --> 00:51:00,539
Nervous Breakdown record
was massive for me.
928
00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:03,852
Sham 69, Tell Us the Truth.
The live side of that.
929
00:51:03,853 --> 00:51:06,856
I thought, wow
that's what I wanted.
930
00:51:08,479 --> 00:51:09,479
For me, the idea of being in a
931
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,549
room with people singing along?
932
00:51:10,550 --> 00:51:12,068
That's all I've ever wanted.
933
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:16,348
What blew my mind was probably
Iggy Pop and The Ramones
934
00:51:16,349 --> 00:51:18,764
because everything is
sped up and louder.
935
00:51:18,765 --> 00:51:22,699
What really made me want to
play fast aggressive punk
936
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:26,565
is, I would say, Greg
Ginn from this record.
937
00:51:26,566 --> 00:51:30,017
I would listen to
this, someone's picking
938
00:51:31,709 --> 00:51:33,503
me up to go to college
and I'm blasting
939
00:51:33,504 --> 00:51:35,643
this in my bedroom
and I miss my ride.
940
00:51:35,644 --> 00:51:39,992
I was in a head shop in
downtown Lim when I was about 16,
941
00:51:39,993 --> 00:51:42,408
this would be 1976, and they had
942
00:51:42,409 --> 00:51:44,341
a crate of records on the floor.
943
00:51:44,342 --> 00:51:45,894
I'm looking through it
and all of a sudden I see
944
00:51:45,895 --> 00:51:48,104
this record with this freaky
looking guy on the cover.
945
00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:50,036
It's like wow, what's this?
946
00:51:50,037 --> 00:51:51,245
I turn it around and it says
947
00:51:51,246 --> 00:51:53,247
Iggy and The Stooges, Raw Power.
948
00:51:53,248 --> 00:51:55,318
Had the clerk play
me a couple of songs,
949
00:51:55,319 --> 00:51:57,458
like wow this is great
and I took it home.
950
00:51:57,459 --> 00:51:59,977
It didn't leave my turn
table for a long time.
951
00:51:59,978 --> 00:52:01,462
That was a life changer.
952
00:52:01,463 --> 00:52:03,636
I was listening to
something called
953
00:52:03,637 --> 00:52:06,191
punk rock before I knew
such a thing existed.
954
00:52:06,192 --> 00:52:09,746
I think that certainly
the first Clash record
955
00:52:09,747 --> 00:52:12,750
blew my mind and
the second as well.
956
00:52:14,131 --> 00:52:18,755
Their early stuff was, the
first two, three Ramones records
957
00:52:18,756 --> 00:52:23,692
also, the energy and the sheer
dedication they played with.
958
00:52:24,865 --> 00:52:26,521
One, two, three, four! You know?
959
00:52:26,522 --> 00:52:29,938
Just you know, when you're
a kid that touches you.
960
00:52:29,939 --> 00:52:32,769
That grabs your heart
and makes it race.
961
00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:34,253
At this point, it sounds cliche,
962
00:52:34,254 --> 00:52:35,841
but it is 100 percent true.
963
00:52:35,842 --> 00:52:38,706
There's nothing that comes
anywhere near this record
964
00:52:38,707 --> 00:52:40,673
was The Ramones,
Rocket to Russia.
965
00:52:40,674 --> 00:52:44,470
I was listening to our college
radio station at the time.
966
00:52:44,471 --> 00:52:47,474
I was 17, I'd heard
about punk rock.
967
00:52:48,682 --> 00:52:51,615
I was drawn to the 60s
counter culture thing.
968
00:52:51,616 --> 00:52:54,308
Not the hippie shit,
but the counter culture.
969
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:56,931
I was too late for
that and I was looking
970
00:52:56,932 --> 00:52:59,002
for something out there,
didn't know what it was.
971
00:52:59,003 --> 00:53:02,972
I could rebel with, not
rebel thinking back then,
972
00:53:05,596 --> 00:53:08,253
wishing I was alive back then.
973
00:53:08,254 --> 00:53:11,877
Something relevant that
meant something today.
974
00:53:11,878 --> 00:53:16,883
The DJ was saying I have to
play a song from this band here.
975
00:53:17,746 --> 00:53:19,022
This is something called by
976
00:53:19,023 --> 00:53:21,957
The Ramones called
Teenage Lobotomy.
977
00:53:23,165 --> 00:53:25,408
When that started
playing, I'd never
978
00:53:25,409 --> 00:53:27,030
heard anything like that either.
979
00:53:27,031 --> 00:53:30,102
I just cranked it up
to 10 and I was like
980
00:53:30,103 --> 00:53:33,243
yeah, this is fucking
exactly what I like.
981
00:53:33,244 --> 00:53:35,107
There was this record store in
982
00:53:35,108 --> 00:53:38,490
Dupont Circle called
Bread and Roses.
983
00:53:38,491 --> 00:53:40,733
We used to be regulars
there and we walked in
984
00:53:40,734 --> 00:53:44,254
and this guy John was
playing, it had just come out,
985
00:53:44,255 --> 00:53:47,534
it was The Ramones,
Road to Ruin album.
986
00:53:50,296 --> 00:53:52,745
We were like, what
the hell is this?
987
00:53:52,746 --> 00:53:55,783
He's like, "It's The Ramones.
It's their brand new record.
988
00:53:55,784 --> 00:53:57,233
"I just got an advanced copy."
989
00:53:57,234 --> 00:53:59,752
We were like, "But what
kind of music is this?!"
990
00:53:59,753 --> 00:54:02,272
We don't really understand
what we're hearing.
991
00:54:02,273 --> 00:54:05,586
He said it was
basically punk rock.
992
00:54:05,587 --> 00:54:07,898
From our perspective,
we had always, you know,
993
00:54:07,899 --> 00:54:10,453
the media line of punk
rock is it's an exclusively
994
00:54:10,454 --> 00:54:13,732
British form of music that
people beat each other up to.
995
00:54:13,733 --> 00:54:15,285
That's kind of all
anybody would tell you.
996
00:54:15,286 --> 00:54:19,427
It sounded stupid. Yeah, we
were immediately sold on it.
997
00:54:19,428 --> 00:54:21,498
If I had to give
credit to a single record
998
00:54:21,499 --> 00:54:24,950
if I ever have to, I think
Never Mind the Bollocks
999
00:54:24,951 --> 00:54:26,641
by The Sex Pistols
is just mind blowing.
1000
00:54:26,642 --> 00:54:29,299
I think that just
shook the world.
1001
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:33,235
That just changed music.
It changed everything.
1002
00:54:35,858 --> 00:54:38,550
It pretty much set
and opened all doors
1003
00:54:38,551 --> 00:54:40,828
in me and my life and so
much more to walk through.
1004
00:54:40,829 --> 00:54:42,657
There was other great
bands doing stuff.
1005
00:54:42,658 --> 00:54:45,695
The Ramones, I can't take that
away from them, Dead boys.
1006
00:54:45,696 --> 00:54:50,044
A lot of good stuff, but there
was nothing as intense as
1007
00:54:50,045 --> 00:54:52,736
Never Mind the
Bollocks, just intense.
1008
00:54:52,737 --> 00:54:55,394
Tom Snyder had
a show on that was
1009
00:54:55,395 --> 00:54:59,192
like every first Saturday
night of the month.
1010
00:55:00,918 --> 00:55:05,923
Instead of Saturday Night Live,
he had his little news show.
1011
00:55:07,131 --> 00:55:09,651
I remember they did a
thing on the new thing
1012
00:55:10,824 --> 00:55:14,137
in England called punk
rock and Barbie Benton,
1013
00:55:14,138 --> 00:55:17,761
they were interviewing
her on the street.
1014
00:55:17,762 --> 00:55:18,935
She goes, "Oh my god!
1015
00:55:18,936 --> 00:55:20,350
"There's this band
called The Sex Pistols."
1016
00:55:20,351 --> 00:55:23,215
That name stuck out
and the next time
1017
00:55:23,216 --> 00:55:26,632
I was up at the record
store, there it was.
1018
00:55:26,633 --> 00:55:28,289
It must have just come out.
1019
00:55:28,290 --> 00:55:30,533
I bought that and
that was it for me.
1020
00:55:30,534 --> 00:55:35,470
The record that changed the
direction was The Teen Idles.
1021
00:55:37,610 --> 00:55:41,372
In DC of course, punk
rock was sort of recent
1022
00:55:42,546 --> 00:55:44,478
when I was wandering
around Georgetown
1023
00:55:44,479 --> 00:55:45,755
looking for something fun to do
1024
00:55:45,756 --> 00:55:46,997
and I'd hear that
people hung around
1025
00:55:46,998 --> 00:55:48,723
in Georgetown and looked
for fun things to do.
1026
00:55:48,724 --> 00:55:52,175
I was wandering the streets
and I went into a record store
1027
00:55:52,176 --> 00:55:56,594
and they said, "oh you should
listen to this record."
1028
00:55:58,044 --> 00:56:01,806
So of course, I bought
the record immediately.
1029
00:56:02,980 --> 00:56:07,052
It is the first record
on Discord Records,
1030
00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:11,539
which I subsequently
worked for for 22 years.
1031
00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:14,542
Apparently I really
liked this music.
1032
00:56:14,543 --> 00:56:16,234
This record, 9353,
1033
00:56:17,581 --> 00:56:22,205
extremely important band
for me and my friends.
1034
00:56:22,206 --> 00:56:25,382
Growing up in DC in
the 80s and a band
1035
00:56:26,521 --> 00:56:29,454
that is sort of lost
to the sands of time.
1036
00:56:29,455 --> 00:56:34,460
I discovered Dead Kennedys
and AC/DC at the same time.
1037
00:56:36,013 --> 00:56:38,463
I remember asking
my guitar teacher,
1038
00:56:38,464 --> 00:56:41,466
the first song I learned
to play was Back in Black.
1039
00:56:41,467 --> 00:56:44,123
I remember asking
him to teach me
1040
00:56:44,124 --> 00:56:47,852
California Uber Alles
and he was not into it.
1041
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:51,027
He goes, "I don't
want to teach you
1042
00:56:51,028 --> 00:56:52,615
"any songs by this
band The Dead Kennedys.
1043
00:56:52,616 --> 00:56:57,033
"That name is just
really offensive to me."
1044
00:56:57,034 --> 00:56:58,690
Which made it all
the more interesting.
1045
00:56:58,691 --> 00:57:01,486
Beatles, Beatles,
Beatles, Beatles.
1046
00:57:01,487 --> 00:57:05,317
As a kid and then when I started
to become very interested
1047
00:57:05,318 --> 00:57:10,323
in guitar as I got older,
AC/DC, KISS, AC/DC, KISS.
1048
00:57:15,155 --> 00:57:19,745
But if I'm gonna have to
puck one, probably AC/DC.
1049
00:57:19,746 --> 00:57:22,472
Malcolm, more than Angus.
1050
00:57:22,473 --> 00:57:25,613
Get Your Ya-Ya's Out
by The Rolling Stones.
1051
00:57:25,614 --> 00:57:27,581
That was in my dad's collection.
1052
00:57:27,582 --> 00:57:29,548
That's the first
record I obsessed over.
1053
00:57:29,549 --> 00:57:33,000
It was probably
around '72 or '73.
1054
00:57:33,001 --> 00:57:35,312
I was like nine
years old I think.
1055
00:57:35,313 --> 00:57:37,625
I listened to that
record constantly.
1056
00:57:37,626 --> 00:57:41,353
I used to take wax paper
and trace the pictures
1057
00:57:41,354 --> 00:57:44,218
on the back of Keith and Mick.
1058
00:57:44,219 --> 00:57:48,015
Just kind of wonder who was
playing what instrument.
1059
00:57:48,016 --> 00:57:52,778
I knew all the between song
banter so that record was huge.
1060
00:57:52,779 --> 00:57:54,470
Paranoid and then
I went back and
1061
00:57:54,471 --> 00:57:56,748
got the first Black
Sabbath record.
1062
00:57:56,749 --> 00:58:00,546
Electric Funeral, that
really changed my life.
1063
00:58:01,685 --> 00:58:04,928
It was more dark
stuff, then later on
1064
00:58:04,929 --> 00:58:07,483
pushing ahead it would
be the Killing Joke.
1065
00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:09,139
The first Killing Joke record
1066
00:58:09,140 --> 00:58:11,072
is still a huge influence on me.
1067
00:58:11,073 --> 00:58:13,973
Blood sport, the
stance, punk rock.
1068
00:58:15,802 --> 00:58:19,495
Then seeing them live,
it was just so pummeling.
1069
00:58:19,496 --> 00:58:22,843
It still had heavy
guitar, but it was punk
1070
00:58:22,844 --> 00:58:25,224
and new wave and dance music.
1071
00:58:25,225 --> 00:58:27,123
Completely different
than anything else.
1072
00:58:27,124 --> 00:58:29,194
Just like Paranoid,
I thought was,
1073
00:58:29,195 --> 00:58:33,543
I just was blown away by that
first Killing Joke record.
1074
00:58:33,544 --> 00:58:35,683
One big turning point for
me was when you're getting
1075
00:58:35,684 --> 00:58:39,066
an album for Christmas, two
copies of the big hit album
1076
00:58:39,067 --> 00:58:41,344
that year, Rod Stewart,
A Night on the Town.
1077
00:58:41,345 --> 00:58:45,900
I took one to Payless
Drugstore to exchange it.
1078
00:58:45,901 --> 00:58:49,801
I was riffling through
all the records
1079
00:58:49,802 --> 00:58:52,079
and this Led Zeppelin
four album cover,
1080
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,322
the man with the bundle
of sticks on his back.
1081
00:58:54,323 --> 00:58:57,981
I saw that and I go,
this is incredibly cool.
1082
00:58:57,982 --> 00:59:00,777
I don't remember whether
I bought it because of
1083
00:59:00,778 --> 00:59:04,229
the album cover or because I
might have recognized it and
1084
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:07,612
remembered Stairway to Heaven,
I don't remember honestly.
1085
00:59:07,613 --> 00:59:10,994
I was very young. I took it
home and put the album on.
1086
00:59:10,995 --> 00:59:13,134
Everything in my world changed.
1087
00:59:13,135 --> 00:59:15,723
In terms of impact,
life changing,
1088
00:59:15,724 --> 00:59:20,315
planet wobbling off its access
kind of impact, Hendrix.
1089
00:59:22,766 --> 00:59:25,561
There's nothing even close,
really there's nothing close.
1090
00:59:25,562 --> 00:59:27,840
I mean he was the God head.
1091
00:59:29,393 --> 00:59:34,052
When I heard that first
album, all bets were off.
1092
00:59:34,053 --> 00:59:36,641
Anything was possible.
1093
00:59:36,642 --> 00:59:39,506
It was a world of
wild imagination
1094
00:59:40,542 --> 00:59:43,268
and color and limitless
possibilities.
1095
00:59:43,269 --> 00:59:47,929
That guitar, I'm getting
goosebumps just thinking of it.
1096
00:59:49,102 --> 00:59:52,760
The same record that
originally blew my mind
1097
00:59:52,761 --> 00:59:57,766
when I was 10 or 11 years old
that made me want to change my
1098
01:00:00,286 --> 01:00:05,015
religion to Jimi Hendrix was
the Live at Woodstock album.
1099
01:00:06,464 --> 01:00:10,295
Him playing, it sent me on a
path of wanting to play rock,
1100
01:00:10,296 --> 01:00:14,610
of wanting to play rock and
roll, to play at an extremely
1101
01:00:14,611 --> 01:00:17,855
loud volume, to be
extremely distorted.
1102
01:00:19,098 --> 01:00:23,102
That feedback was a note
and a chord and a song.
1103
01:00:27,244 --> 01:00:31,178
Jimi Hendrix. It all
comes back to him.
1104
01:00:38,358 --> 01:00:42,051
A house is on fire, what
three records would you grab?
1105
01:00:42,052 --> 01:00:44,675
Is that a desert island dissoff?
1106
01:00:46,125 --> 01:00:48,782
First, if you're on a desert
island, there's no electricity.
1107
01:00:48,783 --> 01:00:52,130
Your batteries are gonna
run out pretty soon,
1108
01:00:52,131 --> 01:00:54,339
so I don't think any
records are gonna help you.
1109
01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:55,961
But if your house is on fire,
1110
01:00:55,962 --> 01:00:59,862
you grab Minor Threat,
Out of Step test pressing,
1111
01:00:59,863 --> 01:01:03,831
only because number
one it's a great record
1112
01:01:03,832 --> 01:01:07,939
and number two it's extremely
rare and will allow you
1113
01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:11,977
to buy records to replace
the one you lost in the fire.
1114
01:01:11,978 --> 01:01:14,497
If my house was
on fire and I had
1115
01:01:14,498 --> 01:01:17,224
to get three records
out, the first thing
1116
01:01:17,225 --> 01:01:19,157
I would definitely get is...
1117
01:01:19,158 --> 01:01:23,782
I have a Minor Threat test
pressing of Out of Step.
1118
01:01:23,783 --> 01:01:26,958
It's worth enough to probably
fix some of the smoke
1119
01:01:26,959 --> 01:01:30,237
and water damage, so I
would need that in order
1120
01:01:30,238 --> 01:01:32,273
to get sorted out because
you know insurance,
1121
01:01:32,274 --> 01:01:33,758
they could do anything
and just say no.
1122
01:01:33,759 --> 01:01:37,037
So I'd get that, and
it's a good record.
1123
01:01:37,038 --> 01:01:41,041
I would definitely take
Exile on Main Street,
1124
01:01:41,042 --> 01:01:42,801
by far my favorite
Stones record,
1125
01:01:42,802 --> 01:01:45,631
just such an important
thing and I would
1126
01:01:45,632 --> 01:01:48,565
take the Black
album by The Damned.
1127
01:01:48,566 --> 01:01:52,121
Probably the Minor Threat
discography and let's face it,
1128
01:01:52,122 --> 01:01:55,780
except for Good Guys
Don't Wear White,
1129
01:01:55,781 --> 01:01:57,402
they didn't have a bad song.
1130
01:01:57,403 --> 01:01:59,369
I'd just get the
fuck out of the house.
1131
01:01:59,370 --> 01:02:01,199
If my house were
on fire and I could
1132
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,204
only grab three records,
I would grab The Faith,
1133
01:02:07,827 --> 01:02:10,623
The Damned, and
Love and Rockets.
1134
01:02:11,486 --> 01:02:13,349
If my house were on fire,
1135
01:02:13,350 --> 01:02:16,698
I would grab one of
my favorite records.
1136
01:02:19,977 --> 01:02:23,669
I did punk rock, which is what
threw off my entire college
1137
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:27,087
career in the end, but I
went to college for opera
1138
01:02:27,088 --> 01:02:31,989
and Maria Callas was my actual
favorite singer of all time.
1139
01:02:34,129 --> 01:02:37,062
MC5 which is one of my favorite
1140
01:02:37,063 --> 01:02:39,099
records of all time,
oh my goodness.
1141
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:42,931
Reptile House, which is
also a Discord record.
1142
01:02:44,346 --> 01:02:46,934
If my house is on fire, which
is not even a funny question
1143
01:02:46,935 --> 01:02:48,487
because I've already
been through this.
1144
01:02:48,488 --> 01:02:51,939
I've unfortunately been through
a fire and lost records,
1145
01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:55,460
lost a dog, which is more
heartbreaking than anything.
1146
01:02:55,461 --> 01:02:57,842
I was actually playing
a show with The Bruisers
1147
01:02:57,843 --> 01:03:00,396
and I got that call
and was like "Oh."
1148
01:03:00,397 --> 01:03:04,296
Anyway, if I had to get out of
my house with three records,
1149
01:03:04,297 --> 01:03:05,953
you're making it
really tough on me,
1150
01:03:05,954 --> 01:03:10,130
I would definitely grab
my Bad Brains, Pay to Cum.
1151
01:03:10,131 --> 01:03:14,720
This has got to come
with me everywhere I go.
1152
01:03:14,721 --> 01:03:16,239
I love all of these.
1153
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,656
I would grab SS Decontrol,
Kids Will Have Their Say.
1154
01:03:19,657 --> 01:03:22,763
This is one of my all
time favorite albums.
1155
01:03:22,764 --> 01:03:26,492
All time, love it.
Everything up here I love.
1156
01:03:27,873 --> 01:03:29,805
I don't think I would need
to grab my own because
1157
01:03:29,806 --> 01:03:34,050
it's in my mind, but if I
had to take another choice,
1158
01:03:34,051 --> 01:03:37,641
I love the Misfits of
course, Minor Threat.
1159
01:03:41,300 --> 01:03:44,647
Can I take four? Can I take
The Misfits and Minor Threat?
1160
01:03:44,648 --> 01:03:48,409
I'll take these two. Bullet
and In my Eyes, Minor Threat,
1161
01:03:48,410 --> 01:03:50,032
I'd be very tempted
to grab a couple
1162
01:03:50,033 --> 01:03:52,241
test pressings like Flex
Your Head test pressing
1163
01:03:52,242 --> 01:03:53,759
or the Iron Cross test pressing,
1164
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,383
just because I wouldn't
be able to replace those.
1165
01:03:56,384 --> 01:04:00,526
The Bad Brains single I
like because it's the only
1166
01:04:01,941 --> 01:04:06,532
signed record I have and it's
also one of the early ones.
1167
01:04:07,947 --> 01:04:10,190
They didn't figure out how
to fold the cover correctly
1168
01:04:10,191 --> 01:04:13,469
so it's like too fat and
long which I kind of like.
1169
01:04:13,470 --> 01:04:15,643
I don't know, I'd probably
grab something like that.
1170
01:04:15,644 --> 01:04:19,199
My Bad Brains, seven
inch, which I could easily
1171
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,996
put that in this category
because it completely
1172
01:04:22,997 --> 01:04:26,862
changed everything I knew
about music and it sounded pro.
1173
01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:28,346
It didn't sound
like a local band.
1174
01:04:28,347 --> 01:04:31,452
It was just amazing and
I hadn't heard that much.
1175
01:04:31,453 --> 01:04:34,110
There wasn't really any
hardcore to hear at that point.
1176
01:04:34,111 --> 01:04:37,113
So this record, I'd
grab it, and it's also
1177
01:04:37,114 --> 01:04:39,391
probably my only
valuable record left.
1178
01:04:39,392 --> 01:04:42,499
Raw Cassette,
Catch a Fire, and man
1179
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,642
I've got to go with
fucking Master of Puppets.
1180
01:04:48,643 --> 01:04:51,438
I fucking love that
record dude. You know why?
1181
01:04:51,439 --> 01:04:55,270
When Master of Puppets
came out I was addicted
1182
01:04:57,307 --> 01:04:59,308
to cocaine and
freebase at the time
1183
01:04:59,309 --> 01:05:00,999
and going through a
lot of crazy shit.
1184
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,967
When I put that
record on I was like,
1185
01:05:02,968 --> 01:05:06,177
to wake up and have your
breakfast on a mirror,
1186
01:05:06,178 --> 01:05:09,905
it was a lot of deep
shit being said there
1187
01:05:09,906 --> 01:05:12,908
and the music was
just fucking brutal
1188
01:05:12,909 --> 01:05:15,324
and it's Cliff Burton's
last record with them.
1189
01:05:15,325 --> 01:05:19,362
It was just like, you
know, I was like holy shit.
1190
01:05:19,363 --> 01:05:23,677
3, 2, 1, I would grab the
Bad Brains wire sessions
1191
01:05:23,678 --> 01:05:25,713
which I have on cassette,
but I don't have it with me.
1192
01:05:25,714 --> 01:05:30,063
But I would grab this one,
and number two would be this.
1193
01:05:30,064 --> 01:05:32,789
But my number one
record, if I just
1194
01:05:32,790 --> 01:05:35,378
had to grab one,
would be this one.
1195
01:05:35,379 --> 01:05:38,864
Okay, so if my house was
on fire what would I do?
1196
01:05:38,865 --> 01:05:43,008
Do I want this? It's cool.
This is a great record.
1197
01:05:47,805 --> 01:05:50,049
I mean, a classic for sure.
1198
01:05:51,223 --> 01:05:52,948
Well if my house is
on fire, I have this
1199
01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:57,193
one box of all my
collectable, or records
1200
01:05:57,194 --> 01:05:59,333
that some people
refer to as bonzers.
1201
01:05:59,334 --> 01:06:02,958
I heard that somewhere
basically refer to rare
1202
01:06:02,959 --> 01:06:05,236
or prized records so
I guess that's kind of
1203
01:06:05,237 --> 01:06:07,376
the term I go with, but
I'd just grab the box.
1204
01:06:07,377 --> 01:06:11,518
If I had to specifically
pick three, one would be
1205
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:15,832
the first Articles of Faith
album, What We Want is Free.
1206
01:06:15,833 --> 01:06:19,146
Another one is Negative
Approaches first seven inch,
1207
01:06:19,147 --> 01:06:20,976
in fact their only
seven inch I guess.
1208
01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:25,982
This last one isn't really
anything that rare, I suppose.
1209
01:06:27,293 --> 01:06:28,984
It's a band from Michigan
called The State.
1210
01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:32,297
I had a friend named Jane
from here and she went
1211
01:06:32,298 --> 01:06:34,403
to the University of Michigan
and would send me back
1212
01:06:34,404 --> 01:06:38,338
flyers and records and this is
one of the ones she sent me.
1213
01:06:38,339 --> 01:06:40,409
"You gotta check this
band out, they're great!"
1214
01:06:40,410 --> 01:06:43,722
I did that and it
has really strong
1215
01:06:43,723 --> 01:06:47,726
sentimental value
because she died on 9/11.
1216
01:06:47,727 --> 01:06:50,315
She was on one of the
planes, so I really cherish
1217
01:06:50,316 --> 01:06:53,594
any of the records I got from
her after she passed away
1218
01:06:53,595 --> 01:06:58,013
I basically inherited her
record collection as well.
1219
01:06:58,014 --> 01:07:00,912
That's something that
means a great deal to me.
1220
01:07:00,913 --> 01:07:03,190
It's an impossible
answer. Honestly?
1221
01:07:03,191 --> 01:07:08,196
I think, like I mentioned
before, why I keep these things
1222
01:07:09,577 --> 01:07:10,818
in boxes is so I can
throw them at the window,
1223
01:07:10,819 --> 01:07:13,718
so I don't have to
pick threw them.
1224
01:07:14,961 --> 01:07:18,793
I could just throw them
out and I'll be great.
1225
01:07:22,176 --> 01:07:25,350
I don't know, this The
Saints third album,
1226
01:07:25,351 --> 01:07:26,834
Prehistoric Sounds.
1227
01:07:26,835 --> 01:07:29,320
Slade, Play it Loud.
I only get three.
1228
01:07:29,321 --> 01:07:32,668
This record, the
Why EP. Discharge.
1229
01:07:32,669 --> 01:07:36,223
Jesus. It's like I got this
when it first came out.
1230
01:07:36,224 --> 01:07:38,018
This fucking record scared
the shit out of everybody.
1231
01:07:38,019 --> 01:07:42,643
Let's see, Rocket to
Russia and then probably,
1232
01:07:42,644 --> 01:07:43,645
I get three?
1233
01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:53,034
Two of the three signed by
Edward Gory albums that we have.
1234
01:07:54,622 --> 01:07:57,175
One False Move by The Freeze,
Edward Gory the artist
1235
01:07:57,176 --> 01:08:00,075
signed them and because
I love Edward Gory
1236
01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:02,492
and I miss him I'd grab those.
1237
01:08:03,631 --> 01:08:05,425
That's funny that
you asked that.
1238
01:08:05,426 --> 01:08:07,565
My answer is I'd
grab my negatives.
1239
01:08:07,566 --> 01:08:09,291
I wouldn't grab records.
1240
01:08:09,292 --> 01:08:11,741
I'd probably just grab a
few Rolling Stones records.
1241
01:08:11,742 --> 01:08:14,227
I would probably give
a different answer
1242
01:08:14,228 --> 01:08:16,436
to this every hour of every day,
1243
01:08:16,437 --> 01:08:19,371
so if I had to
answer it right now,
1244
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:23,582
let's go with The
Clash, London Calling;
1245
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,795
The Beatles, it's like I
want to say the White album,
1246
01:08:30,796 --> 01:08:35,765
but believe it or not I'm
gonna say Magical Mystery Tour;
1247
01:08:35,766 --> 01:08:38,458
It's a tie right now
in my brain between
1248
01:08:38,459 --> 01:08:42,877
Let it Bleed by the Stones
and Blue by Joni Mitchell.
1249
01:08:44,327 --> 01:08:48,538
If my house was on fire I
would grab the White album.
1250
01:08:49,953 --> 01:08:54,647
I would grab, I might grab Honky
Dory - no I would grab Low.
1251
01:08:58,996 --> 01:09:03,138
For sure. I would definitely
grab Street Hustle.
1252
01:09:03,139 --> 01:09:05,140
All right, I gave
it some thought
1253
01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:08,315
and every time I thought
about it I changed my mind.
1254
01:09:08,316 --> 01:09:11,319
But this morning,
Electric Ladyland.
1255
01:09:15,496 --> 01:09:18,153
My second choice this
morning would be Trout Mask
1256
01:09:18,154 --> 01:09:21,225
and the last one, it could
have been their third album,
1257
01:09:21,226 --> 01:09:23,468
you know I love their
third album as well,
1258
01:09:23,469 --> 01:09:25,539
I love even some of those
later things that are sort of
1259
01:09:25,540 --> 01:09:29,199
compilations of live
stuff recorded at Max's
1260
01:09:32,858 --> 01:09:36,172
but this record is
very important to me.
1261
01:09:37,656 --> 01:09:41,660
I actually met Lou a few
years ago he signed it.
1262
01:09:43,109 --> 01:09:45,283
Then I was bummed that I had
him sign it on the front.
1263
01:09:45,284 --> 01:09:47,147
This front is just so brilliant.
1264
01:09:47,148 --> 01:09:48,976
Have to be an Allman
Brothers record.
1265
01:09:48,977 --> 01:09:50,668
This was one of my
first favorite bands.
1266
01:09:50,669 --> 01:09:54,327
When I was 14 I took a bus
and went down to Georgia
1267
01:09:54,328 --> 01:09:57,192
and saw them at Lana Jam
so it would have to be
1268
01:09:57,193 --> 01:09:59,435
an Allman Brother's
record, probably
1269
01:09:59,436 --> 01:10:00,885
either Eat a Peach
or Live at Fillmore.
1270
01:10:00,886 --> 01:10:03,922
East, John Coltrain
Ballads, and then
1271
01:10:03,923 --> 01:10:08,237
Will the Circle be Unbroken
by The Nitty Gritty Band.
1272
01:10:08,238 --> 01:10:10,584
To be honest, the
first thing I would
1273
01:10:10,585 --> 01:10:13,587
grab would be my
1952 Gibson ES175.
1274
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,499
The last record that
I bought was Drinks,
1275
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:31,951
which is a project
band with Tim Pressley
1276
01:10:34,575 --> 01:10:39,130
from White Fence and Kate
Lebon who's a Welsh singer.
1277
01:10:39,131 --> 01:10:43,410
I think it's called The
Essential Charlie Rich.
1278
01:10:43,411 --> 01:10:46,793
The last record
I purchased was by
1279
01:10:46,794 --> 01:10:49,554
an artist by the name of Eluvium
1280
01:10:49,555 --> 01:10:53,248
and the record's called
Nightmare Ending.
1281
01:10:53,249 --> 01:10:54,939
Honestly the last record
I bought was probably
1282
01:10:54,940 --> 01:10:56,734
Duran, Duran and
it was for my wife
1283
01:10:56,735 --> 01:10:58,874
because we got a new turn table.
1284
01:10:58,875 --> 01:11:03,465
I got this Moondog record a
few weeks ago. I love Moondog.
1285
01:11:03,466 --> 01:11:04,638
The last record I purchased
1286
01:11:04,639 --> 01:11:07,503
was Radkey's Dark Black Makeup.
1287
01:11:07,504 --> 01:11:10,956
The last record that
I bought would be,
1288
01:11:12,371 --> 01:11:17,273
I forget the title of it, it's
a Delbert McCLinton record.
1289
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:19,757
Yeah. That would
be the last one.
1290
01:11:19,758 --> 01:11:23,381
The last record I bought was
Key Markets by Sleaford Mods.
1291
01:11:23,382 --> 01:11:27,247
Animals, box set. I
wanted the Animals box set.
1292
01:11:27,248 --> 01:11:29,629
The last record I purchased,
and I've been doing this
1293
01:11:29,630 --> 01:11:32,183
as a habit from the very
beginning that our first album
1294
01:11:32,184 --> 01:11:36,394
came out, Victim in Pink,
it's just for the purpose
1295
01:11:36,395 --> 01:11:39,017
of good luck itself, I always
go out and but my record.
1296
01:11:39,018 --> 01:11:41,537
I go to the record store
and I buy my record.
1297
01:11:41,538 --> 01:11:44,816
It hasn't worked.
1298
01:11:44,817 --> 01:11:45,784
Christ, I don't know.
1299
01:11:45,785 --> 01:11:48,199
I've been illegally downloading
1300
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,512
for so long now I don't know.
1301
01:11:50,513 --> 01:11:52,168
I can't remember the last one.
1302
01:11:52,169 --> 01:11:55,586
Probably Leatherface,
Stormy Petrol.
1303
01:11:55,587 --> 01:11:59,142
Battle Ruins. It's
a bunch of local guys.
1304
01:12:00,868 --> 01:12:02,938
They're like a side project.
1305
01:12:02,939 --> 01:12:06,010
If I tell you, then people
will think I'm just a hippie
1306
01:12:06,011 --> 01:12:08,737
and I'm not even into
hardcore and I'm just a fraud,
1307
01:12:08,738 --> 01:12:13,743
but you know, but
Apostrophe by Frank Zappa
1308
01:12:15,296 --> 01:12:17,366
was something that I picked up.
1309
01:12:17,367 --> 01:12:22,267
I'm spoiled by the internet
because I look for stuff
1310
01:12:22,268 --> 01:12:25,132
that I didn't buy that's
not in my collection
1311
01:12:25,133 --> 01:12:27,445
of records and CDs
and I just stream it
1312
01:12:27,446 --> 01:12:30,862
and I don't download it
and it's kind of a shame.
1313
01:12:30,863 --> 01:12:33,209
The music industry is like that.
1314
01:12:33,210 --> 01:12:34,935
This is the last
record I purchased.
1315
01:12:34,936 --> 01:12:37,490
It's a band from New
York City called Nandas.
1316
01:12:37,491 --> 01:12:40,251
I found out about it just
on the internet, you know,
1317
01:12:40,252 --> 01:12:43,530
checking them out online
and it was really good
1318
01:12:43,531 --> 01:12:47,085
so I got this a couple weeks
ago and I was not disappointed.
1319
01:12:47,086 --> 01:12:50,744
The last record I bought
was last week for a road trip.
1320
01:12:50,745 --> 01:12:53,402
I got Singles Going
Steady by the Buzzcocks.
1321
01:12:53,403 --> 01:12:56,785
The stereo situation hasn't
been around for decades.
1322
01:12:56,786 --> 01:12:58,476
It's just too easy
with the digital stuff.
1323
01:12:58,477 --> 01:13:00,167
I listen in the car and I listen
1324
01:13:00,168 --> 01:13:02,411
on that little speaker there.
1325
01:13:02,412 --> 01:13:03,999
It's sort of pathetic, isn't it?
1326
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,865
That little Bose,
whatever it's called.
1327
01:13:07,866 --> 01:13:10,971
The last single record I got
1328
01:13:10,972 --> 01:13:14,181
was a reissue of a DC
band called The Hangmen,
1329
01:13:14,182 --> 01:13:17,841
60s garage band who was
sort of hard to hear
1330
01:13:19,567 --> 01:13:23,467
this band in the 80s and 90s,
but now being rediscovered.
1331
01:13:23,468 --> 01:13:26,332
I got 'Bout Love by Clydie King.
1332
01:13:28,473 --> 01:13:32,441
It's a northern soul,
all these old.
1333
01:13:32,442 --> 01:13:34,581
All the Time, by The Intruders.
1334
01:13:34,582 --> 01:13:39,414
Both of these I got for
maybe 20 bucks with postage.
1335
01:13:39,415 --> 01:13:43,418
The last record I
purchased was Black Sabbath's
1336
01:13:43,419 --> 01:13:47,112
first album because
it's the deluxe version.
1337
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,323
It's a double album with
outtakes and this album
1338
01:13:52,324 --> 01:13:56,708
is ground zero for a lot of
people and I can see why.
1339
01:13:57,950 --> 01:14:00,676
Let's go with KISS,
Dressed to Kill.
1340
01:14:00,677 --> 01:14:02,747
It sucks that I don't have
time to listen to vinyl.
1341
01:14:02,748 --> 01:14:05,094
Almost never can I
make time to do it,
1342
01:14:05,095 --> 01:14:07,614
so I totally turned into
one of the file people.
1343
01:14:07,615 --> 01:14:10,618
I just pluck music
out of the ether.
1344
01:14:11,895 --> 01:14:15,898
I think it was the
first Undertones record.
1345
01:14:15,899 --> 01:14:18,591
I just, you know one thing
I just recently bought?
1346
01:14:18,592 --> 01:14:20,696
I'm not sure this
was the last record,
1347
01:14:20,697 --> 01:14:23,285
but Eddie Harris live.
1348
01:14:23,286 --> 01:14:25,149
You know Eddie
Harris? The jazz guy?
1349
01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:27,496
Had a listen here
track, good jam.
1350
01:14:27,497 --> 01:14:29,981
Him live at The
Village Gate, I think.
1351
01:14:29,982 --> 01:14:31,983
That's a great record.
1352
01:14:31,984 --> 01:14:34,676
I bought Funky People
Part One, James Brown.
1353
01:14:34,677 --> 01:14:37,507
That was the last
record I bought.
1354
01:14:46,412 --> 01:14:50,036
Record labels sell plastic.
That's what they're selling.
1355
01:14:50,037 --> 01:14:54,937
And the reason we buy one piece
of plastic over another one,
1356
01:14:54,938 --> 01:14:57,353
is because they have
licensed information
1357
01:14:57,354 --> 01:15:01,530
to be inscribed into that
plastic that is more attractive
1358
01:15:01,531 --> 01:15:04,637
to us than say some
other information
1359
01:15:04,638 --> 01:15:07,571
that the guys licensed for
another piece of plastic.
1360
01:15:07,572 --> 01:15:10,781
Ultimately, records label,
it's just fucking plastic
1361
01:15:10,782 --> 01:15:13,231
and with paper on it right?
1362
01:15:13,232 --> 01:15:15,234
That's what a record is.
1363
01:15:17,409 --> 01:15:21,240
What do you call a record
you don't listen to?
1364
01:15:22,138 --> 01:15:24,484
A piece of fucking trash.
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