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Previously on "Dirty John"...
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If there's a zombie outbreak,
where do you think
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all the regular medical
doctors are going to go?
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Ronnie, it's Mom.
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I have a different phone number.
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If you're free I need you to come
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and meet me at CC Kitchen.
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You're gonna leave him?
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- Yes.
- For good this time?
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I'm gonna make your life hell
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for as long as you still have one.
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Get out!
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The 30 grand you took
out. What's it for?
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It's my money, John.
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That's what you think?
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I'm leaving. I want a divorce.
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No more being nice, Deb.
Is that what you want?
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I thought we were putting
him off balance.
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I thought this was a reactive
guy trying to scam and scare
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this decent woman and we
were gonna grind him down,
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but he has a plan.
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The Irvine cops are bringing John
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back in again on the arson.
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Oh, did they figure out where he is?
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They left him a voicemail.
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He's never gonna go in.
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Well, I am going to LA
for a couple of days.
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I'm doing a condo in
the Wilshire Corridor.
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You going alone?
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Yeah, because I've made
a decision that I am
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going to keep going, you know,
and move on with my life.
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And I'm not just gonna wait around
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for the next crazy thing
that he's gonna do.
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You know? Burn up my other car.
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Burn up my other car with me in it.
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It just seems so
uncharacteristic of him,
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the car fire.
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I still can't wrap my head
all the way around it.
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But it made me remember I used to...
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whenever a case didn't go my
way I would box, hit the bags.
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I thought it would lower
my stress, but, actually,
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it always made me feel worse.
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And I thought, "why isn't this working?"
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I asked a friend... a psychologist.
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He said, "All expressing anger
against inanimate objects does
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"is teach you to associate
anger with your own
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controlled aggression," so
of course, it doesn't help.
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It's just a... a snake
eating its own tail.
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So are you saying that
John's getting angrier?
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It's what I'm afraid of.
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It's what I'm afraid of too.
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I wish I could feel safe.
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I wish I felt like this was
all gonna stop one day.
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But I don't.
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- Hi, Nance.
- Debra, I'm leaving.
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- Do you want a latte?
- Oh, that's okay.
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Oh, no, no, no. I'm stopping anyway.
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Two stevias, right?
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- Oh, yes, thanks.
- Okay.
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Well, I will be there in 20.
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As long as it's not that
barista that takes forever.
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If they don't have anything new
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then what's the point in
trying to talk to John again?
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Oh, well, you know, Mr.
O'Neil says that if the police
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are investigating him, we
actually might be able
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to take out a permanent
restraining order.
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Well, does he think the judge
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might actually grant
the order this time?
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I don't know. I don't know.
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He just says that it strengthens
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the case or something even
if he doesn't get arrested.
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So that's good.
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Hm. Are you still going to LA?
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Mm-hmm.
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Do you not want me to go?
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Well, I didn't, but
then I got lawn seats
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to the Desert Barrel Music Festival, so
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just be back by Monday night.
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You wanna know what I think?
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I think you should tell
the judge all about
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John's active dating profiles.
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How he's, like, out there
looking for whoever
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- is gonna file the next restraining order.
- Wait. What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
He's online dating now?
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Oh, my God. Yeah.
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Oh, he's, like, rampantly
on dating websites.
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- Multiple ones.
- Are you kidding?
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- No.
- No.
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How do you know that?
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Ronnie joined different dating sites
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so she could just check up on him.
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Pretty much everybody on
there should hire me to do
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their profiles because they're
so boring or super gross.
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It's stuff like,
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"Cute southern Belle looking
for her dream cowboy."
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Or, like, "My dog thinks I'm awesome."
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"Oh, my God, I would date
the hell out of myself."
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- That one's kind of good though.
- No, it isn't.
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I can't believe he's
online dating again.
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You know what? Let's order
in from Angelina's.
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Yes! I want a large Vesuvio with
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- extra salami.
- I know what you want.
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And can we have, like,
the hazelnut pizza
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- with the extra gelato?
- Oh, Terra.
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- Yes, it's so good.
- No, Mom, please.
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It's really good.
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- Yes?
- It's me.
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Oh, hi, come on up.
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♪ But your body was a substitute ♪
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♪ For you ♪
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- Are you Max?
- Veronica?
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Yeah.
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So you're Max who likes to rock climb
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and likes chillwave music?
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- Wow.
- Hm.
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And you're from the
greatest city in the world?
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New York. Yup.
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Huh. Max who likes
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to chit-chat with his customers, huh?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, unless said customer doesn't want
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to chitchat with him, right?
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Uh, yes.
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Take Sand Canyon Avenue.
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Uh, no, I was going to take
Irvine Center to Jeffrey's...
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Sand Canyon Avenue. Okay.
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Hope this completely silent
ride was to your satisfaction.
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You have to wait here
until I get inside, okay?
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And not just in the lobby.
Like, all the way inside,
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into the elevator.
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I'm going to be watching you
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to make sure that you're watching me.
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Remember I haven't rated you yet.
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I haven't rated you yet, either.
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I heard that.
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Oh, my God.
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Hey!
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- Oh, my God.
- What?
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Hey, oh, my God, hey. Hey.
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You have to follow that
car. Follow that car.
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What? No, who even is that?
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It's a guy who has been
stalking my mom and me. Please!
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Follow him! No one
knows where he's been!
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Please. I beg you. Please.
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- Why am I doing this?
- Go, go!
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- I can't... I can't...
- You're going to lose him.
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- Please.
- I'm going, I'm going.
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- I'm going. Relax, please.
- Yeah.
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- Just relax, okay?
- This is insane.
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Why doesn't he have any brake lights on?
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He doesn't want anyone
to see him, obviously.
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- Go, go, go.
- Okay, I'm not doing that.
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- Please go. Please go.
- I'm not doing that.
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You can do this, I know you can do this!
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Ah!
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- We're fine.
- Huh.
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That was really badass.
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Keep going.
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What is he doing?
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No!
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- Okay.
- Damn it!
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- What do we...
- Damn it!
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- What do we do? Do we...
- Oh, my God this is bad.
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- I don't know what we do.
- Do I keep following?
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- Do you want me to turn around?
- No, no, no, wait, wait, no.
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uh, go to Campus road, okay?
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And then I'll direct
you when we get there.
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Okay, where are we...
where are we going?
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We're gonna go to my sister's.
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- So?
- No, no, it's not him.
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The... the hood is cold.
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Okay, um...
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Well, I... I think we should check up
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in the parking structure too.
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Uh, okay, do you have a
key card or whatever?
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No, no, that's broken.
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You can just roll it
open with your hands.
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You want me to just...
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I'm gonna just check on Terra.
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You go do that, okay? Oh, hold that.
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Hey, thank you.
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Hey, Cash. It's okay, it's just me.
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- Hey!
- Hey, no, he wasn't up there.
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- Did you see a Prius?
- Did I see a Prius?
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Yeah, I saw, like, ten Prius.
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Is that what your sister drives?
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- Yeah.
- Did you talk to her?
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No, but I heard her dog so
I know that she's home.
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- Okay, great.
- Am I going crazy?
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No, right? I'm not going crazy.
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I'm... I'm not.
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Look, I don't really know you.
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I want to wait here and keep watch.
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- You want to keep watch?
- Uh-huh.
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- Okay, until when?
- Until it's light out.
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Obviously.
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I mean, I'm not going to
sleep at all tonight.
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And I don't want to wake up
Terra and, like, freak her out
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if John isn't even here.
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She's way more fragile than I am.
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And I'm supposed to
protect her, you know?
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So, yeah, I want to wait.
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Hey, listen.
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If you're not going to be a
dick about waiting with me
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then I will let you
tell me your top five
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favorite chillwave albums.
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And you can tell me why you
love each one so much.
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Ten favorites, and I
get to play you tracks
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to illustrate why...
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- Fine. One track...
- It's really not that...
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- From each album.
- It's not that bad.
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Sure.
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Yes?
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- Hey.
- Hi, Honey. Hi.
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What are you doing here?
It's, like, barely morning.
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Yeah, I know. Come sit down with me.
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- Come on.
- Okay.
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- Terra?
- Yeah?
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John was outside my
apartment last night.
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How do you know it was him?
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Because I saw his face,
Terra. It was him.
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He was on the phone, in his car,
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and then he took off
driving like a lunatic.
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So then we chased him until
we got onto the freeway,
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and then we came here and
we waited outside all night
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to see if he came.
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Wait, "we chased him." Who's we?
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I need you to keep your eyes open.
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Last night was, like, game time, okay?
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No, I get it, I just... I get it...
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No. You can't just say that you get it.
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I need you to be aware.
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So he was in, like, a
black sedan, four door...
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I don't actually know
the make of the car
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but it was black and it
had broken brake lights.
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Ronnie, I'm not even
gonna be around anyway.
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I'm picking up Ava after work,
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and we're going to Desert Barrel
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until Monday, remember?
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- Lawn seats?
- Terra.
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Okay, okay. I get it.
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Black, four-door sedan...
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with broken brake lights, right?
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Yeah. It was really creepy.
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Sunscreen, phone charger,
power pack thing,
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flushable wipes, collapsible chair.
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I don't know where my chair is.
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Because you left it in my car.
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Oh, can you bring it?
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Yes. Jean shorts, jean mini,
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tees, underwear, boots, hat,
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00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:20,410
poncho... expert-level
music fest packing done.
253
00:14:20,510 --> 00:14:23,380
And did you reserve a locker?
254
00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,670
Yes.
255
00:14:24,730 --> 00:14:26,570
And did you get the keyless kind
256
00:14:26,590 --> 00:14:29,090
so someone won't lose their keys?
257
00:14:29,150 --> 00:14:30,890
Yes, bitch.
258
00:14:30,930 --> 00:14:34,350
Okay, I'll come pick
you up at 5:00. Okay?
259
00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:36,590
Yay! I'll be ready at 5:01.
260
00:14:36,610 --> 00:14:38,030
- Okay.
- Love you, booboo.
261
00:14:38,050 --> 00:14:39,130
See ya.
262
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:52,370
Do you think I should call the cops?
263
00:14:52,390 --> 00:14:55,190
I... I don't know, honey. Do
you want to call the cops?
264
00:14:55,230 --> 00:14:58,310
I don't know. Yeah, kind of.
265
00:14:58,950 --> 00:15:04,050
Well, I mean, he stole my
car and set it on fire,
266
00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:05,810
and they didn't do anything.
267
00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:13,890
Do you really think that
you saying that you think
268
00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:16,140
you saw him in his car
behind your building...
269
00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,080
Mom, I did see him, okay?
270
00:15:18,130 --> 00:15:19,520
And nothing happened because I saw him
271
00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:21,500
before anything could actually happen.
272
00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:25,240
- Hey.
- Hey.
273
00:15:25,260 --> 00:15:27,200
I feel like you can't cover
shifts this weekend,
274
00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:28,520
but I can't remember why.
275
00:15:28,630 --> 00:15:30,960
- No, I'm going to Desert Barrel.
- Oh, that's right.
276
00:15:30,980 --> 00:15:32,810
I don't think they're
going to do anything
277
00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:35,020
until something does actually happen.
278
00:15:35,230 --> 00:15:38,800
So we just have to protect ourselves.
279
00:15:43,610 --> 00:15:45,360
When do you leave, again,
and when are you back?
280
00:15:45,380 --> 00:15:48,710
I go from here and I pick up
my friend and then I... oh.
281
00:15:48,810 --> 00:15:51,160
Damn. I forgot my bag.
282
00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:52,770
But are you back by Sunday, or no?
283
00:15:52,780 --> 00:15:54,440
No. No.
284
00:15:54,460 --> 00:15:58,220
Well, I don't think he's
gonna come back here.
285
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,160
I kind of wish he would, though.
286
00:16:01,180 --> 00:16:03,940
So we could get his
psycho ass on camera.
287
00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:11,040
Honey, we don't know what he's gonna do.
288
00:16:12,860 --> 00:16:15,360
So we have to be careful.
289
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:20,840
He just has to get lucky one time.
290
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,840
Come on. Come on.
291
00:16:56,950 --> 00:16:58,230
Hey.
292
00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:01,830
You remember me?
293
00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,680
Ah! You...
294
00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,120
Ah! Uh! Uh!
295
00:19:08,940 --> 00:19:10,820
Are you okay? You're bleeding.
296
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,670
Okay.
297
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,470
Okay, can you take some
deep breaths for me?
298
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,240
Breathe in and out, okay?
299
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,290
You got him?
300
00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:22,470
- Is he breathing?
- I don't know.
301
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,310
- Turn him over.
- Call 911.
302
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,940
Can you just breathe?
Breathe, take deep breaths.
303
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,240
Okay? In and out. All right.
304
00:19:30,820 --> 00:19:32,390
Hi, are you on the road?
305
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,100
Mom!
306
00:19:35,150 --> 00:19:37,210
Terra? What's the matter, honey?
307
00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:45,440
- What is it?
- Mom... Mom...
308
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,550
I... I think... I think
I killed your husband.
309
00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:51,300
- What?
- It was... I'm sorry...
310
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,890
Where are you, Terra? What happened?
311
00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:56,560
At my... at my apartment.
312
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,940
I'm coming. Terra, I'm coming.
313
00:20:00,230 --> 00:20:02,000
I'm coming.
314
00:20:03,060 --> 00:20:04,540
- I got him.
- Come on!
315
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,710
Two, three.
316
00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:08,500
- Breathe!
- Okay, do it.
317
00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:13,980
Miss? Can you tell me what happened?
318
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,700
Is he... is he dead? Is he dead?
319
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,150
Is he... I killed him.
Is he dead? Is he dead?
320
00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:28,020
I killed him. Is he dead?
321
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,000
Where is my mom? Is she here yet?
322
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,860
- I just checked.
- I want to talk to her.
323
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,320
She's on her way. When
she gets here we'll...
324
00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:54,990
Is he dead?
325
00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,760
Is John?
326
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,720
How do you know him?
327
00:21:03,020 --> 00:21:05,620
He's, um, married to my mom.
328
00:21:05,670 --> 00:21:08,120
- He's your step father?
- No, no.
329
00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:12,660
What... what does that mean?
330
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,760
They were gonna get a divorce.
331
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,330
So what's your relationship with him?
332
00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:23,630
I hate him.
333
00:21:25,810 --> 00:21:29,610
He was trying to take my mom away.
334
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,310
Okay.
335
00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:35,860
So while we wait for your mom,
336
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,540
can you... can you try to
tell me what happened?
337
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,260
- Ma'am, I'm detective Layton.
- Where's my daughter?
338
00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:08,660
I've been told she's doing fine.
339
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,520
She does not need surgery.
She's being treated for shock.
340
00:22:10,540 --> 00:22:11,580
Can I see her, please?
341
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:13,600
And as soon as the doctors
give us the all clear,
342
00:22:13,610 --> 00:22:15,120
I will take you to her.
343
00:22:15,220 --> 00:22:17,160
But while we wait for
that, there is something
344
00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,020
that we need you to do for us.
345
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,640
- If you'll come with me, please.
- Okay.
346
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,610
Shot to the head or stab to the head.
347
00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:18,720
Then you kill the zombie.
348
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,120
But you weren't thinking
John was a zombie?
349
00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:27,370
No.
350
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:34,370
And I... I've had dreams of this moment.
351
00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:38,840
But I just... I never...
I never thought that...
352
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,910
It would happen.
353
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:51,050
I just thought that if there
were ever a zombie apocalypse,
354
00:23:51,150 --> 00:23:52,880
I'd know what to do.
355
00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:58,680
So it sounds like you
absorbed the mind-set
356
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:00,430
of the television show
357
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,820
more than any particular
technique necessarily.
358
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,660
So what would you say that mind-set was?
359
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,400
Kill or be killed.
360
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,940
Brain death is different from
being in a vegetative state.
361
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,350
There's no evidence of cortical
brain or brain stem activity.
362
00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,180
What does that mean?
363
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,620
That he'd be unable to cough or swallow
364
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,280
or breathe on his own.
365
00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:42,330
So if I say to unplug the machines...
366
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800
He won't be able to breathe?
He'll stop breathing?
367
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:48,790
Yes.
368
00:25:00,060 --> 00:25:02,260
Do you know why he's here?
369
00:25:02,420 --> 00:25:04,700
Did somebody tell you what he did?
370
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,540
This responsibility for
him, I don't want it.
371
00:25:25,140 --> 00:25:27,100
You'll have to find someone else.
372
00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:40,580
Hey! Excuse me, is that
Terra Newell's room?
373
00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:41,640
Oh, my God.
374
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,000
- Oh, my God.
- Miss Newell is being questioned.
375
00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:44,970
I need to see my sister.
Please, let me see my...
376
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,100
Where's my mom?
377
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,820
She said that she was in the hospital.
378
00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:48,980
- But she's here.
- Where?
379
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,570
She should be in here with...
380
00:25:50,580 --> 00:25:52,940
We asked her to identify
John Meehan for us
381
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,420
while we asked your
sister some questions.
382
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,850
Why? Wh... what are you
questioning her about?
383
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,340
You should give her a goddamn medal.
384
00:25:58,540 --> 00:25:59,880
Hi.
385
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:06,140
Terra!
386
00:26:26,990 --> 00:26:29,020
Down this way.
387
00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:38,050
Those scans, the brain
scans... that's it, right?
388
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:40,510
They're not waiting for anything else?
389
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:44,070
I mean, he's never coming back?
390
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,340
No, he's not. Your brother's gone.
391
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,680
Honestly, he was gone when
they brought him here.
392
00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:54,580
Okay.
393
00:26:55,850 --> 00:26:58,350
Uh, he should go off the machines.
394
00:26:59,990 --> 00:27:01,520
Take him off.
395
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,460
Can I give you a couple
minutes with him first?
396
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,640
- To say good-bye?
- I already said it.
397
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,270
- Hi.
- Hey.
398
00:27:19,290 --> 00:27:21,840
- Are you John's sister?
- Denise.
399
00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:23,440
Denise, yes.
400
00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:26,010
- You must be Debra.
- Debra, yes.
401
00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:29,930
- Well, it's nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
402
00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:34,620
Sorry, I... he told me
about you, but, you know,
403
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,370
he lied about so many
things so I'm just...
404
00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:39,190
it's nice to see you're real.
405
00:27:39,220 --> 00:27:41,370
Yeah, and I didn't even know you existed
406
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,630
until a little while ago.
407
00:27:42,650 --> 00:27:45,510
Yes, well,
408
00:27:45,710 --> 00:27:48,250
I'm the one who fell for him.
409
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,300
Please don't blame
yourself. He did it to me.
410
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,590
Conned me, lied to me.
411
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,250
And I know that you've
been through hell.
412
00:27:59,530 --> 00:28:02,640
You know, when I thought
about him dying,
413
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:05,900
I thought it probably wouldn't
be something natural.
414
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,340
An overdose or someone coming after him
415
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,820
for something he'd done to them.
416
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,520
God.
417
00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:15,040
Not this.
418
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,850
Never anything like this.
419
00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:22,220
And I'm s...
420
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,660
What's her name? They
didn't tell me her name.
421
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:30,130
My daughter? Terra.
422
00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:32,440
Terra.
423
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:37,660
She needs to meet you. Would
you like to meet her?
424
00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:40,960
Oh, yes. Of course.
425
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,400
Okay. Let's go.
426
00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:47,980
- Hi, sweetheart.
- Hi.
427
00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:51,380
I brought someone I want you to meet.
428
00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:56,080
This is... this is Denise.
This is John's sister.
429
00:29:03,630 --> 00:29:06,060
It's okay.
430
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,440
He was your brother.
431
00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:17,020
And he had... he had kids.
432
00:29:17,030 --> 00:29:19,360
And he was someone's father.
433
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:24,940
And I... I took him
away from all of you.
434
00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:28,960
I killed him.
435
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:36,980
I think it says a lot
436
00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:39,360
that after everything you've
been through this is what
437
00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:40,660
you're thinking about.
438
00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:46,320
John had daughters and
a sister and a niece.
439
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,770
Because those are names
that you call people
440
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,800
who are related to you by blood.
441
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,310
But he was as alone as a person can be.
442
00:29:55,410 --> 00:29:57,980
And that's because
that's what he wanted.
443
00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:00,550
You didn't take him away from us.
444
00:30:05,290 --> 00:30:07,960
I'm just really grateful
that you're alive
445
00:30:08,060 --> 00:30:10,140
so that I can tell you that.
446
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,070
- Okay, go ahead, sweetie.
- Ow.
447
00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:21,160
- Oh, is it hurting?
- No, it's okay. It's fine.
448
00:30:21,180 --> 00:30:22,730
Okay, do you want me to take Cash?
449
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,220
I got this. It's okay.
450
00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:29,400
- You need help with your belt?
- No, I'm okay.
451
00:30:29,410 --> 00:30:31,680
Okay.
452
00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:39,000
- Terra?
- Yeah?
453
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:42,080
I'm so sorry.
454
00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:45,860
- I'm so sorry...
- Mom.
455
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,600
That I did this to you.
456
00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:50,260
I brought him into our lives.
457
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:52,480
You know, I put you in danger.
458
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:54,080
Mom, we don't have to... we really don't
459
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,040
have to talk about it right now.
460
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,040
Oh, I know. You're so tired, sweetie.
461
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,500
Let's get this girl home, Cash.
462
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:25,080
_
463
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,570
Uh, hi, Ms. Newell.
464
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:32,490
This is Chris Goffard
from the "LA Times."
465
00:31:32,670 --> 00:31:35,730
I know the "Daily Pilot" broke
the story about your daughter
466
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:38,780
and John Meehan, and
I'd like to talk to you
467
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:40,330
about your experience.
468
00:31:40,340 --> 00:31:42,130
I just have a lot of questions.
469
00:31:42,190 --> 00:31:45,810
Please give me a call and I'll
lay out what I have in mind.
470
00:31:45,910 --> 00:31:47,210
Thanks.
471
00:31:52,050 --> 00:31:54,810
Crime scene's already been
through this pretty thoroughly.
472
00:31:54,850 --> 00:31:56,770
They took everything they
thought was relevant,
473
00:31:56,790 --> 00:31:59,350
but I still thought it would
be good to bring you here.
474
00:31:59,450 --> 00:32:00,470
Fresh eyes.
475
00:32:00,490 --> 00:32:03,000
Maybe you'll pick up on
something they didn't see.
476
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:05,230
Oh, my God.
477
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,370
I had no idea that this even existed,
478
00:32:11,390 --> 00:32:13,830
that he was living like this.
479
00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:20,020
I... what would I be looking for?
480
00:32:20,030 --> 00:32:25,740
Um, maybe just an everyday
object that might
481
00:32:25,850 --> 00:32:29,170
have some meaning, might
have some use for him,
482
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:31,830
um, that you recognize
for whatever reason
483
00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,510
as significant.
484
00:32:33,530 --> 00:32:36,020
Or maybe nothing. It's fine either way.
485
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,130
Plus everything in here belongs
to you as his next of kin.
486
00:32:42,030 --> 00:32:44,070
Lucky me.
487
00:32:47,770 --> 00:32:49,010
Oh.
488
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:07,090
What's that?
489
00:33:07,210 --> 00:33:09,470
Just...
490
00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:12,810
Doesn't he look happy?
491
00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:16,330
He looks really happy to me.
492
00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:21,900
So I wanted to let you know formally
493
00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:24,780
that the Meehan investigation
has concluded,
494
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:27,970
and that my office has decided
not to bring charges.
495
00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:34,490
Well, that's great news.
496
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,400
- Thank you.
- No, thank you.
497
00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:38,610
If there's anything I can
do for either of you,
498
00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:39,720
please let me know.
499
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:45,560
Are there pictures in that file?
500
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:47,430
Like...
501
00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:50,960
Like autopsy photos or whatever?
502
00:34:52,330 --> 00:34:53,920
There are.
503
00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:57,360
I need to see them.
504
00:34:58,910 --> 00:35:02,610
When they were taking him,
505
00:35:04,210 --> 00:35:07,800
no one would even tell me he was dead.
506
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,180
I know he's dead now.
507
00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:20,700
I just don't know what
that is. What I did.
508
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:24,060
Terra, honey.
509
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,500
Those are the kind of
things... once you look at it
510
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,190
you can't ever unsee it.
511
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Your mother's right.
512
00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:34,380
They're really brutal.
It's a lot to handle.
513
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:37,580
Okay, well, I don't know
if I can handle it or not.
514
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,350
I just know that I need to see them.
515
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,800
Are you okay, honey?
516
00:35:57,900 --> 00:35:59,670
Yeah, I'm fine.
517
00:36:23,690 --> 00:36:26,740
They were on the second floor
when I came out of chambers.
518
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,140
Yeah, I saw them with Murphy.
519
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,200
Oh, is he charging her, the daughter?
520
00:36:30,250 --> 00:36:31,930
Nope. Self defense.
521
00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:33,910
Good, I start trial next week.
522
00:36:33,940 --> 00:36:36,400
Not charging her frees
up Murphy to help me.
523
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,940
Which one are you on now?
524
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,970
Married man having an affair,
girlfriend tells him
525
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,540
he has to choose, so he kills the wife.
526
00:36:43,550 --> 00:36:44,660
Like you do.
527
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,580
Of course, he met the
girlfriend on the internet
528
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,620
and apparently, that's where
the mom met this John Meehan.
529
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,420
Married him a month later.
530
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,320
That is so not slow.
531
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:57,260
Talk about a rotten apple.
532
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,896
Have you ever heard of
a criminal defendant
533
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,730
with ongoing restraining orders
534
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,700
from multiple unrelated women,
535
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,670
multiple judges signing
off independently.
536
00:37:05,770 --> 00:37:08,570
- That the mom knew about?
- She had to know something.
537
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:11,810
A history like his? There's
always a red flag.
538
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:14,340
I'm always amazed how guys
like that get away with it.
539
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,640
I'm amazed she let him get away with it.
540
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:19,600
I just hope she knows how lucky she is.
541
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:23,250
99 times out of 100 in this
scenario, the guy's on the run,
542
00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:25,820
and the daughter's dead on
the side of the freeway.
543
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,300
- Hey!
- There they are.
544
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,820
- Hello.
- Say "hi," kiddo.
545
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:47,880
There are my monkeys.
546
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:54,280
- I just think it's funny.
- Oh, it's not.
547
00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:56,290
All that time, all that effort,
548
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
and all the hospital resources
to help keep him alive
549
00:37:58,620 --> 00:38:00,030
so they could harvest his organs?
550
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:02,030
- Oh, Veronica.
- And they get in there,
551
00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:04,660
finally, and his organs
are totally destroyed
552
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,230
from all of those drugs.
553
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Oh, whatever. It's really funny.
554
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:13,570
Even his organs sucked.
555
00:38:17,540 --> 00:38:19,570
I don't know how a person
is supposed to eat.
556
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,100
Very Veronica.
557
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,080
How's Terra? How is she really?
558
00:38:30,590 --> 00:38:32,340
Well...
559
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,940
she says that she's fine.
560
00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:38,690
I don't know how she can be
561
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:40,280
after going through something like that.
562
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:41,380
I know.
563
00:38:42,730 --> 00:38:45,800
But you know, Mom, she is so strong.
564
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,600
I had no idea how strong she is.
565
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:52,740
I wish I didn't know.
566
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,280
I don't know.
567
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,700
I don't know how... how this happened.
568
00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:08,290
I don't know how I did this
to her and to the family.
569
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:10,950
I don't know how I didn't see it.
570
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:13,390
You didn't do anything to anybody.
571
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,060
- Well...
- No, honey. Debbie,
572
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,560
you were in love.
573
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:21,930
You have to forgive
yourself, Debbie. You do.
574
00:39:22,330 --> 00:39:25,670
Terra has. I know she has.
575
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:28,570
We all forgive you. We
all love you so much.
576
00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:32,950
You're already forgiven.
577
00:39:36,070 --> 00:39:37,830
- You hear me?
- Mm-hmm.
578
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:41,010
- You're forgiven.
- Thanks, Mom.
579
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:41,390
You've reached Chris
Goffard at the "LA Times."
580
00:40:41,470 --> 00:40:43,580
Please leave a message,
and I'll get back to you.
581
00:40:44,770 --> 00:40:48,350
Hi, Mr. Goffard... uh, Chris.
582
00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:50,250
This is... this is Debra Newell.
583
00:40:50,350 --> 00:40:52,250
I got... I got your message.
584
00:40:52,970 --> 00:40:56,720
Thank you so much for your
interest in our story,
585
00:40:56,740 --> 00:41:00,730
and I think I'd like to
get the story out there
586
00:41:00,770 --> 00:41:04,720
for people to know what he did...
587
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:07,290
what John did.
588
00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:10,890
And I know it's not gonna
be an easy story to tell,
589
00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:15,510
probably won't make me look
very good but... but I...
590
00:41:15,630 --> 00:41:18,770
I'd like for it to help
some people and maybe
591
00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:22,170
help some women to know what
to look for and to know how to
592
00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:24,730
avoid this happening to them
593
00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,030
and... and if that's possible
594
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:28,910
then it'll be worth it to me.
595
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:30,650
So I hope you'll call me back,
596
00:41:30,670 --> 00:41:34,980
and, uh, I look forward
to talking to you.
597
00:41:36,670 --> 00:41:39,350
Debra Newell. Thank you.
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