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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,290 --> 00:00:16,710 My name's Roderick Gerald Noble, 2 00:00:16,809 --> 00:00:19,259 and in 1963, I was 13. 3 00:00:20,986 --> 00:00:23,156 Perth was very quiet in those days. 4 00:00:23,264 --> 00:00:25,474 Very well-off people lived here. 5 00:00:28,062 --> 00:00:29,552 But it's a very small place. 6 00:00:29,650 --> 00:00:32,240 Everyone knew everyone or seemed to know everyone. 7 00:00:32,342 --> 00:00:35,482 Over this side, anyway, this side of the river. 8 00:00:35,587 --> 00:00:37,547 That's the Western Suburbs side. 9 00:00:39,625 --> 00:00:41,795 Every backyard had an outside dunny. 10 00:00:41,903 --> 00:00:44,083 Still works. It's a beauty. 11 00:00:44,182 --> 00:00:48,262 Everyone had buffalo grass and the Hills Hoist clothesline. 12 00:00:48,358 --> 00:00:51,568 And they'd spin you around while you were swinging off it. 13 00:00:51,672 --> 00:00:54,682 Kids lived out here, basically. 14 00:00:54,778 --> 00:00:56,228 We had a fabulous life. 15 00:00:56,332 --> 00:00:59,342 We were footloose and fancy free. 16 00:00:59,438 --> 00:01:04,618 And all of a sudden, there was the body on the back lawn. 17 00:01:04,719 --> 00:01:08,099 [Grass rustling] 18 00:01:08,206 --> 00:01:12,866 ♪♪ 19 00:01:12,969 --> 00:01:15,279 [Man grunting] 20 00:01:15,385 --> 00:01:21,975 ♪♪ 21 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:24,502 It was like it happened yesterday. 22 00:01:24,601 --> 00:01:27,541 Even now, I can see that backyard. 23 00:01:27,639 --> 00:01:29,879 I can see the body. 24 00:01:29,986 --> 00:01:32,916 Still today, I have trouble sleeping. 25 00:01:33,023 --> 00:01:35,993 This thing will never go away. 26 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:38,406 ♪♪ 27 00:01:38,512 --> 00:01:42,212 ♪ So you run, run, run 28 00:01:42,309 --> 00:01:44,619 ♪ From everything you are 29 00:01:46,934 --> 00:01:50,144 ♪ And you're lost 30 00:01:50,248 --> 00:01:53,248 ♪ With every scar 31 00:01:55,425 --> 00:01:58,385 ♪ And you say my name like it's a game ♪ 32 00:01:58,497 --> 00:02:01,017 ♪ But you can't hide 33 00:02:03,709 --> 00:02:06,609 ♪ I see you there 34 00:02:06,712 --> 00:02:10,582 ♪ Behind the lies 35 00:02:10,682 --> 00:02:13,372 ♪ You never know the pain 36 00:02:13,478 --> 00:02:14,958 ♪ It comes and goes 37 00:02:15,065 --> 00:02:19,655 ♪ In ways that cannot be erased ♪ 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,420 ♪ It only fades away 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,250 ♪ Long enough to remember 40 00:02:25,352 --> 00:02:27,632 ♪ The price we paid 41 00:02:27,733 --> 00:02:31,603 ♪♪ 42 00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:44,230 ♪♪ 43 00:02:44,336 --> 00:02:46,986 Estelle: Perth was blown apart by a major, 44 00:02:47,097 --> 00:02:51,267 major crime wave in 1963, 45 00:02:51,378 --> 00:02:54,688 especially within the Western Suburbs. 46 00:02:54,795 --> 00:02:57,065 It shattered our world, shattered my world. 47 00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:59,457 It shattered everybody's world. 48 00:02:59,558 --> 00:03:03,078 Perth changed forever, instantly. 49 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:05,293 The police were right onto it, of course. 50 00:03:05,392 --> 00:03:07,392 Daryl Beamish was locked up for life 51 00:03:07,497 --> 00:03:10,217 for the hatchet murder of Jillian Brewer. 52 00:03:10,328 --> 00:03:11,568 John Button was in jail 53 00:03:11,674 --> 00:03:14,164 for running down Rosemary Anderson. 54 00:03:14,263 --> 00:03:18,203 And now we had the shooter for Shirley McLeod. 55 00:03:18,301 --> 00:03:21,271 It was Eric Edgar Cooke. 56 00:03:21,373 --> 00:03:24,243 Reporter: Perth was numb in September '63. 57 00:03:24,342 --> 00:03:26,312 The cruel killer who'd terrorized us 58 00:03:26,413 --> 00:03:30,693 for most of the year was a truck driver with seven kids. 59 00:03:30,796 --> 00:03:32,106 Estelle: It was a great relief 60 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:35,532 that the police were getting on top of things. 61 00:03:35,629 --> 00:03:38,699 Although we were all aware that the killer responsible 62 00:03:38,804 --> 00:03:40,744 for the shootings on Australia Day 63 00:03:40,841 --> 00:03:43,911 was still at large. 64 00:03:44,016 --> 00:03:45,636 But there was a twist. 65 00:03:45,742 --> 00:03:47,682 My police section... 66 00:03:47,779 --> 00:03:50,259 I was yet to discover that the good work of the police 67 00:03:50,368 --> 00:03:52,368 was far from good. 68 00:03:52,473 --> 00:03:54,513 John Button was completely innocent. 69 00:03:54,613 --> 00:03:56,683 This is about a cover-up by the police. 70 00:04:04,002 --> 00:04:08,492 Once police had confirmed that Cooke had shot Shirley McLeod, 71 00:04:08,593 --> 00:04:10,803 they started to think that he might be behind 72 00:04:10,905 --> 00:04:13,525 the Australia Day shootings. 73 00:04:13,632 --> 00:04:15,632 They all had a similarity. 74 00:04:15,738 --> 00:04:17,358 The victims had all been shot 75 00:04:17,464 --> 00:04:22,024 accurately in the forehead with a .22 caliber rifle. 76 00:04:22,123 --> 00:04:24,443 It was so certain to police he was the one, 77 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:26,370 but they had no evidence. 78 00:04:26,473 --> 00:04:28,413 So they had to find the murder weapon, 79 00:04:28,509 --> 00:04:30,929 because the gun was different from the one used 80 00:04:31,029 --> 00:04:32,509 to kill Shirley McLeod. 81 00:04:32,617 --> 00:04:35,067 ♪♪ 82 00:04:35,171 --> 00:04:38,141 Max: But Cookie wouldn't talk to them. 83 00:04:38,243 --> 00:04:42,073 So that was where I come in the picture. 84 00:04:42,178 --> 00:04:45,628 ♪♪ 85 00:04:45,733 --> 00:04:49,573 I was down the football club on my only day off. 86 00:04:49,668 --> 00:04:52,568 [Laughs] Inspector Lamb, he said, 87 00:04:52,671 --> 00:04:56,541 "We dearly want a cough," meaning admitting. 88 00:04:56,641 --> 00:05:00,471 I said, "Well, okay." 89 00:05:00,576 --> 00:05:04,506 So I went down and saw Cookie, and he did the old trick. 90 00:05:04,614 --> 00:05:07,314 "No, not me, Mr. Baker. Not me, not me." 91 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:08,690 "Yes, it is you." 92 00:05:08,791 --> 00:05:13,001 So we put him in the car and drove around. 93 00:05:14,037 --> 00:05:18,077 Nedlands, West Perth, everywhere. 94 00:05:19,595 --> 00:05:21,905 Estelle: So they took him on a tour of the Western Suburbs, 95 00:05:22,011 --> 00:05:24,221 where the Australia Day shootings took place, 96 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:25,984 hoping to prompt a confession. 97 00:05:26,084 --> 00:05:28,164 But instead, he just took them to lots of houses 98 00:05:28,258 --> 00:05:30,048 where he confessed to a variety of thefts, 99 00:05:30,157 --> 00:05:32,257 some peeping Tom crimes, stealing cars. 100 00:05:32,366 --> 00:05:33,706 There were so many. 101 00:05:33,816 --> 00:05:35,676 You could pretty well say that in those days, 102 00:05:35,783 --> 00:05:37,893 if you caught somebody in your backyard 103 00:05:37,992 --> 00:05:41,892 or looking in your window, it was most likely Cooke. 104 00:05:41,996 --> 00:05:45,376 But that wasn't what they wanted. 105 00:05:45,483 --> 00:05:49,043 What I was doing is seeing how he reacted 106 00:05:49,141 --> 00:05:52,041 to everyone that we went past. 107 00:05:53,456 --> 00:05:56,316 You know, you'd say, "How about that one, eh?" 108 00:05:56,425 --> 00:05:59,635 And he'd say, "No, no, not that one." 109 00:05:59,738 --> 00:06:04,498 But he was a person that'll tell lies. 110 00:06:04,605 --> 00:06:07,015 We stopped at the Albion Hotel 111 00:06:07,125 --> 00:06:10,225 and bought him some curried chicken and rice. 112 00:06:10,335 --> 00:06:12,055 As we sat there, I thought, 113 00:06:12,164 --> 00:06:14,344 "Oh, geez, I've had enough of this. 114 00:06:14,443 --> 00:06:16,653 He's never said a bloody word to me, 115 00:06:16,755 --> 00:06:19,715 so I've gotta get it from him." 116 00:06:19,827 --> 00:06:21,857 Now it's in the report. 117 00:06:21,967 --> 00:06:25,557 And I said, "Hey, Cookie, you're going to hang. 118 00:06:25,661 --> 00:06:27,901 There's not much doubt about that. 119 00:06:28,008 --> 00:06:30,288 Now think about your wife and kids. 120 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:34,050 Are you going to be dragged to the gallows like a mongrel dog 121 00:06:34,152 --> 00:06:37,192 or are you gonna go like a man?" 122 00:06:37,293 --> 00:06:39,053 And he actually hit the right spot, 123 00:06:39,157 --> 00:06:42,187 because Cooke was very fond of his family. 124 00:06:42,298 --> 00:06:45,028 Max: Spluttering his curried chicken, he said, 125 00:06:45,128 --> 00:06:47,408 "Mr. Baker, what do you want to know?" 126 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:49,890 I said, "Did you shoot George Walmsley 127 00:06:49,995 --> 00:06:52,895 and the others that night?" 128 00:06:52,998 --> 00:06:56,308 Cookie said, "Yes, I'm the bloke you're looking for. 129 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:57,896 What happens now?" 130 00:06:58,003 --> 00:07:03,533 ♪♪ 131 00:07:03,630 --> 00:07:05,220 Estelle: And so then Cooke himself 132 00:07:05,321 --> 00:07:08,121 told the police how he did everything. 133 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:12,050 ♪♪ 134 00:07:42,496 --> 00:07:44,386 Rowena: I think I want a drink. I think I'm thirsty. 135 00:07:44,498 --> 00:07:45,878 Nick: I'll get it off. Don't worry. 136 00:07:59,651 --> 00:08:00,961 [Gunshot] 137 00:09:05,545 --> 00:09:07,745 [Gunshot] 138 00:09:07,857 --> 00:09:11,517 ♪♪ 139 00:09:37,231 --> 00:09:38,961 [Gunshot] 140 00:10:01,497 --> 00:10:04,707 Detective: You deliberately aimed a rifle at their head. 141 00:10:04,811 --> 00:10:07,121 Cooke: Yes, sir. Yes. 142 00:10:16,685 --> 00:10:18,475 [Gunshot] 143 00:10:26,418 --> 00:10:29,418 ♪♪ 144 00:10:29,525 --> 00:10:31,595 And when you reached the Narrows Bridge? 145 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:34,220 I pushed the rifle over, yes, sir. 146 00:10:34,323 --> 00:10:35,573 Why did you do that? 147 00:10:39,708 --> 00:10:42,018 ♪♪ 148 00:10:42,124 --> 00:10:43,444 Estelle: There's the Narrows Bridge, 149 00:10:43,539 --> 00:10:45,889 and he was there with the detectives. 150 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:48,130 Cooke had a great memory, and he could remember that he threw it 151 00:10:48,233 --> 00:10:51,863 from light pole number 324 with an over-arm motion. 152 00:10:51,961 --> 00:10:59,381 ♪♪ 153 00:10:59,486 --> 00:11:01,006 And there it is. 154 00:11:01,108 --> 00:11:04,218 That rifle that Cooke had stolen and used on Australia Day 155 00:11:04,318 --> 00:11:06,868 was still there in 10 centimeters of silt. 156 00:11:06,976 --> 00:11:10,046 ♪♪ 157 00:11:10,152 --> 00:11:11,712 After all those years of hunting for Cooke 158 00:11:11,809 --> 00:11:14,089 and getting the pressure, quite a trophy. 159 00:11:14,190 --> 00:11:16,880 ♪♪ 160 00:11:16,986 --> 00:11:20,156 Jack: Understandably, it was a terrific relief, 161 00:11:20,265 --> 00:11:23,095 not only to members of the public, 162 00:11:23,199 --> 00:11:26,689 but also naturally, of course, to the police. 163 00:11:26,789 --> 00:11:31,519 Man: Oh, yes, great jubilation, for everybody. 164 00:11:31,621 --> 00:11:35,321 For the first time, I felt relief. 165 00:11:35,418 --> 00:11:37,008 The people just breathed out. 166 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:39,080 ♪♪ 167 00:11:39,181 --> 00:11:42,081 Estelle: But Cooke, once he started confessing, 168 00:11:42,184 --> 00:11:43,434 he didn't stop. 169 00:11:43,530 --> 00:11:48,540 ♪♪ 170 00:11:49,536 --> 00:11:57,506 ♪♪ 171 00:11:57,613 --> 00:12:00,583 Dad held a party. 172 00:12:00,685 --> 00:12:03,995 Rod: My sisters had friends staying there that night, 173 00:12:04,102 --> 00:12:06,242 and it went on quite a while. 174 00:12:06,346 --> 00:12:10,036 ♪♪ 175 00:12:10,143 --> 00:12:12,493 At the end of it, Dad used to throw whiskey bottles 176 00:12:12,593 --> 00:12:14,943 and plates on the back lawn and wash them out. 177 00:12:15,044 --> 00:12:24,784 ♪♪ 178 00:12:24,882 --> 00:12:26,572 We got up early. 179 00:12:26,676 --> 00:12:28,466 Dad used to go to the beach every morning, 180 00:12:28,575 --> 00:12:30,335 and often I'd go with him. 181 00:12:30,439 --> 00:12:34,129 And I went to the toilet, right at the back of the yard. 182 00:12:34,236 --> 00:12:37,996 ♪♪ 183 00:12:38,102 --> 00:12:41,042 Opened the door, like that. 184 00:12:41,139 --> 00:12:43,489 Mum was behind me. 185 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:45,660 And down on the grass was a body. 186 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:48,275 ♪♪ 187 00:12:48,388 --> 00:12:50,248 She was nude. 188 00:12:50,355 --> 00:12:54,045 I thought it was one of my sisters. 189 00:12:54,152 --> 00:12:57,882 She had the whiskey bottle from the party under an arm. 190 00:12:57,984 --> 00:12:59,684 My mum started calling out 191 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:02,509 and found that all the girls were safe. 192 00:13:02,609 --> 00:13:04,679 And then I thought, "She's dead." 193 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:08,344 ♪♪ 194 00:13:08,442 --> 00:13:11,622 I just thought, "She's dead." 195 00:13:11,721 --> 00:13:14,071 It was Constance Lucy Madrill. 196 00:13:14,172 --> 00:13:15,732 She was a lovely girl. 197 00:13:20,972 --> 00:13:23,492 We played cricket in that laneway all the time. 198 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:26,495 We used to hit the ball into her backyard often, 199 00:13:26,598 --> 00:13:30,358 and she used to throw the ball back. 200 00:13:30,464 --> 00:13:33,364 During the night, he strangled her with the bed flex 201 00:13:33,467 --> 00:13:36,397 of a Bakelite lamp that was on the bed. 202 00:13:36,505 --> 00:13:39,365 He dragged her through the house. 203 00:13:39,473 --> 00:13:41,823 Had sex with her outside on the back lawn... 204 00:13:41,924 --> 00:13:46,764 ♪♪ 205 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:48,170 ...and dragged her into our backyard 206 00:13:48,275 --> 00:13:49,655 and put her on our back lawn. 207 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:59,249 ♪♪ 208 00:13:59,355 --> 00:14:01,045 ♪♪ 209 00:14:01,150 --> 00:14:02,700 [Siren wailing] 210 00:14:02,807 --> 00:14:04,907 Dad rang the police. 211 00:14:05,016 --> 00:14:07,186 They came down the laneway. 212 00:14:07,294 --> 00:14:10,304 They must have been shattered when they saw it. 213 00:14:10,401 --> 00:14:11,921 Really shattered. 214 00:14:12,023 --> 00:14:14,093 ♪♪ 215 00:14:14,198 --> 00:14:15,678 Max: Oh, it was shocking. 216 00:14:15,785 --> 00:14:19,995 ♪♪ 217 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:23,860 Everything was investigated, the city, the suburb 218 00:14:23,966 --> 00:14:28,966 and country, everywhere, with no days off. 219 00:14:29,075 --> 00:14:32,905 We were full up, right up to there. 220 00:14:33,010 --> 00:14:34,460 Rod: And all of a sudden, 221 00:14:34,563 --> 00:14:37,743 there were Criminal Investigation Bureau everywhere. 222 00:14:37,842 --> 00:14:39,982 They took over our house as headquarters. 223 00:14:40,086 --> 00:14:42,296 They thought he'd come back because this one was strangled 224 00:14:42,398 --> 00:14:43,878 and all the others were shot. 225 00:14:43,986 --> 00:14:46,986 ♪♪ 226 00:14:47,093 --> 00:14:48,723 At the time, I just felt awful. 227 00:14:48,818 --> 00:14:50,538 I just thought, "I wish they'd catch him. 228 00:14:50,648 --> 00:14:51,858 I wish it was over and done with." 229 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,930 Interviewer: Do you think it was associated 230 00:14:54,031 --> 00:14:55,791 with the other crimes at the time? 231 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:59,305 Definitely not, because she wasn't shot, 232 00:14:59,415 --> 00:15:01,415 and he shot every other one. 233 00:15:01,521 --> 00:15:03,391 I couldn't believe it.Really? 234 00:15:03,488 --> 00:15:05,628 I couldn't believe it. 235 00:15:05,732 --> 00:15:07,532 Estelle: The police hadn't linked 236 00:15:07,630 --> 00:15:09,940 Lucy Madrill's strangling with the shooter. 237 00:15:10,047 --> 00:15:13,077 They were looking for a shooter and a strangler. 238 00:15:13,188 --> 00:15:14,668 Cooke's confession to the Madrill killing 239 00:15:14,775 --> 00:15:17,115 was a huge shock to the police. 240 00:15:17,226 --> 00:15:18,916 They took Cooke to the Madrill property, 241 00:15:19,021 --> 00:15:22,341 and he walked them through again in minute detail. 242 00:15:22,438 --> 00:15:26,268 He'd strangled her with the cord of her own lamp. 243 00:15:26,373 --> 00:15:29,483 He'd dragged her to the back garden of the house behind. 244 00:15:29,583 --> 00:15:31,653 These details hadn't been reported in the paper, 245 00:15:31,758 --> 00:15:34,758 so they had to accept this confession. 246 00:15:34,864 --> 00:15:36,834 What a shock. 247 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:39,936 The shooter and the strangler was one and the same. 248 00:15:40,042 --> 00:15:42,492 ♪♪ 249 00:15:42,596 --> 00:15:45,316 How do you feel toward him? 250 00:15:45,427 --> 00:15:47,637 Bitter. 251 00:15:47,739 --> 00:15:49,219 Yeah, very bitter. 252 00:15:49,327 --> 00:15:53,117 ♪♪ 253 00:15:53,228 --> 00:15:56,398 My whole life changed from that morning. 254 00:15:56,507 --> 00:15:58,787 There's no counseling, no therapy. 255 00:15:58,888 --> 00:16:01,238 I've never talked about it like this before. 256 00:16:01,339 --> 00:16:03,649 Really? Yeah. 257 00:16:03,755 --> 00:16:06,655 Still today, I don't know why he did that. 258 00:16:06,758 --> 00:16:12,728 ♪♪ 259 00:16:12,833 --> 00:16:16,733 Then, there was another completely unexpected turn. 260 00:16:16,837 --> 00:16:18,867 Cooke started confessing to murders 261 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:23,908 that other people had already been named as responsible for. 262 00:16:24,017 --> 00:16:27,847 Pnina Berkman and Jillian Brewer. 263 00:16:27,952 --> 00:16:31,062 The police were convinced that Pnina Berkman's boyfriend, 264 00:16:31,162 --> 00:16:34,172 who had fled back to Greece, was responsible for her murder. 265 00:16:34,269 --> 00:16:36,549 And Jillian Brewer, they already had their man. 266 00:16:36,650 --> 00:16:40,520 They had that odd 19-year-old, Daryl Beamish. 267 00:16:40,620 --> 00:16:44,070 They had him put away for life. 268 00:16:44,175 --> 00:16:49,215 And then he confessed to running down Rosemary Anderson. 269 00:16:51,148 --> 00:16:52,668 John: When Eric Edgar Cooke 270 00:16:52,770 --> 00:16:54,810 confessed to running down Rosemary, 271 00:16:54,910 --> 00:16:57,330 this was the first time that something gave me hope 272 00:16:57,430 --> 00:17:00,330 to be released. 273 00:17:00,433 --> 00:17:02,503 I would have been able to maybe 274 00:17:02,607 --> 00:17:06,027 put the pieces back together again. 275 00:17:06,128 --> 00:17:07,538 Frank: John did not do it. 276 00:17:07,647 --> 00:17:12,067 Thank God someone has come forward to admit. 277 00:17:12,169 --> 00:17:16,309 Jill: My father, Ken Hatfield, went to visit Button in prison 278 00:17:16,414 --> 00:17:19,354 and told him he wanted to get the appeal 279 00:17:19,452 --> 00:17:22,662 to prove that John was innocent. 280 00:17:22,765 --> 00:17:27,285 John: I was just waiting for someone to come and release me. 281 00:17:27,391 --> 00:17:29,771 But that is not what happened. 282 00:17:31,395 --> 00:17:33,595 Estelle: The police, they had to investigate everything. 283 00:17:33,707 --> 00:17:35,637 So they took Cooke to Stubbs Terrace, 284 00:17:35,744 --> 00:17:39,614 where Rosemary was run down. 285 00:17:39,713 --> 00:17:41,853 They took him there and said, "Alright, Cookie, 286 00:17:41,957 --> 00:17:44,407 you tell us all the details." 287 00:17:44,511 --> 00:17:46,891 And he did. 288 00:17:46,996 --> 00:17:49,476 So he's showing the detectives where he first saw her 289 00:17:49,585 --> 00:17:51,615 walking along the road, 290 00:17:51,725 --> 00:17:57,555 where he did a U-turn, where he came back behind her, 291 00:17:57,662 --> 00:18:00,772 and where he hit her. 292 00:18:00,872 --> 00:18:04,672 But the location Cooke pointed to where Rosemary was struck 293 00:18:04,773 --> 00:18:07,813 was out by a few meters. 294 00:18:07,914 --> 00:18:11,784 She was lying in the sand further on than he'd said. 295 00:18:11,883 --> 00:18:14,543 ♪♪ 296 00:18:14,645 --> 00:18:17,475 Man #2: But he also said on the record 297 00:18:17,579 --> 00:18:19,719 he had stolen a car that night. 298 00:18:19,822 --> 00:18:23,412 He said that after he'd hit Rosemary and damaged the car, 299 00:18:23,516 --> 00:18:25,546 he drove it to Kings Park 300 00:18:25,656 --> 00:18:30,866 and smashed it into a tree to disguise the damage. 301 00:18:30,971 --> 00:18:32,871 Estelle: So they took him to the tree. 302 00:18:32,973 --> 00:18:38,463 ♪♪ 303 00:18:38,565 --> 00:18:40,185 Wrong tree. 304 00:18:40,291 --> 00:18:42,401 The one that he pointed out was three or four trees away 305 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:46,160 from where that Holden had been found. 306 00:18:46,263 --> 00:18:48,273 Max: He had a bloody good memory, 307 00:18:48,368 --> 00:18:51,788 and his memory let him down on that one. 308 00:18:51,889 --> 00:18:54,859 So they knocked him out of that one. 309 00:18:54,961 --> 00:18:58,281 He was found out telling lies. 310 00:18:58,378 --> 00:19:00,448 Man #2: The police, they wouldn't believe him. 311 00:19:00,553 --> 00:19:02,903 The man they thought had done the killing, 312 00:19:03,003 --> 00:19:06,393 John Button, was locked up in jail. 313 00:19:06,490 --> 00:19:09,730 Nielson: Cooke thought he was going to be executed, 314 00:19:09,838 --> 00:19:12,938 and it was my belief that he was extending time, 315 00:19:13,048 --> 00:19:15,808 causing us investigations and the court proceedings 316 00:19:15,913 --> 00:19:20,473 and that sort of thing, to delay and spar for time. 317 00:19:20,573 --> 00:19:21,783 Estelle: They were certain 318 00:19:21,884 --> 00:19:23,164 Cooke was lying about Rosemary Anderson. 319 00:19:23,265 --> 00:19:25,085 They said, "Cookie, you're lying. 320 00:19:25,198 --> 00:19:26,478 You didn't do this." 321 00:19:26,579 --> 00:19:29,509 So he retracted that confession. 322 00:19:29,616 --> 00:19:32,066 He confessed to Rosemary Anderson in the morning, 323 00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,241 and he retracted it in the afternoon, 324 00:19:34,345 --> 00:19:36,995 and he apologized for taking up their time. 325 00:19:37,106 --> 00:19:39,486 ♪♪ 326 00:19:39,592 --> 00:19:41,702 John: I was devastated. 327 00:19:41,801 --> 00:19:45,321 Our last chance of getting an appeal were dashed. 328 00:19:45,425 --> 00:19:49,185 ♪♪ 329 00:19:52,812 --> 00:19:54,542 Man #3: In those days, 330 00:19:54,641 --> 00:19:58,061 punishment for murder was capital punishment, 331 00:19:58,162 --> 00:20:02,032 and the community was very upset. 332 00:20:02,131 --> 00:20:04,961 He's a vicious and violent murderer, 333 00:20:05,065 --> 00:20:06,925 and he doesn't deserve any sympathy 334 00:20:07,033 --> 00:20:08,903 from anybody whatsoever. 335 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,450 He's caused so much unhappiness and sorrow to people. 336 00:20:11,555 --> 00:20:13,825 They shouldn't waste money on trialling him or nothing. 337 00:20:13,936 --> 00:20:15,656 A man will do what he done. 338 00:20:15,766 --> 00:20:17,486 I think he should definitely hang. 339 00:20:17,595 --> 00:20:21,385 Until he is hung, the book can't be closed. 340 00:20:21,496 --> 00:20:23,186 [Gavel banging] 341 00:21:39,539 --> 00:21:42,369 Jill: At the time, people they wondered, you know, 342 00:21:42,473 --> 00:21:44,033 what the motivation might have been. 343 00:21:44,130 --> 00:21:48,510 Was it somebody taking revenge on middle-class people, 344 00:21:48,617 --> 00:21:50,687 for example? 345 00:21:50,792 --> 00:21:53,692 The fact that he would come over to Nedlands, 346 00:21:53,795 --> 00:21:58,345 and they were all people around this area that he murdered. 347 00:21:58,455 --> 00:22:01,595 He had a harelip and a cleft palate 348 00:22:01,699 --> 00:22:04,179 and would have felt inferior. 349 00:22:04,288 --> 00:22:05,738 Interviewer: People in this part of town, 350 00:22:05,841 --> 00:22:07,981 are they inclusive of people like... 351 00:22:08,085 --> 00:22:11,605 No, that was all in his head, I'm sure. 352 00:22:11,709 --> 00:22:14,609 Dianne: I think he'd gone through his life 353 00:22:14,712 --> 00:22:18,132 feeling pushed aside because of that disfigurement, 354 00:22:18,233 --> 00:22:22,103 and it had created a terrible, terrible blind rage in him. 355 00:22:22,202 --> 00:22:26,692 And somehow, he took it out on society at large. 356 00:22:26,793 --> 00:22:31,763 He had a -- a white-hot sort of revenge on society. 357 00:22:31,867 --> 00:22:33,897 Do you think he was proud of what he did? 358 00:22:34,007 --> 00:22:35,317 Nielson: I believe he was. 359 00:22:35,423 --> 00:22:37,703 It seemed to give him a great feeling 360 00:22:37,804 --> 00:22:42,264 of, um, self-importance. 361 00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:45,471 Tom: The court found Cooke guilty, 362 00:22:45,571 --> 00:22:48,091 and he was sentenced to death. 363 00:22:48,194 --> 00:22:51,514 I remember to this day, it was 1964. 364 00:22:51,611 --> 00:22:53,131 I think it was in the October, 365 00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:56,313 and everyone knew he was going to be hanged that day. 366 00:22:56,409 --> 00:22:59,649 We were sitting outside, waiting to go into classes. 367 00:22:59,757 --> 00:23:04,557 Come 8:00 that morning, we sat silently, 368 00:23:04,659 --> 00:23:07,519 thinking about what was happening a few kilometers 369 00:23:07,627 --> 00:23:09,387 down the road at Fremantle Prison. 370 00:23:09,491 --> 00:23:14,601 ♪♪ 371 00:23:14,703 --> 00:23:16,123 I was on tenterhooks. 372 00:23:16,222 --> 00:23:22,642 ♪♪ 373 00:23:22,746 --> 00:23:25,816 But then, on the morning of Cooke's execution, 374 00:23:25,921 --> 00:23:28,721 he was in the punishment cells behind the gallows. 375 00:23:28,821 --> 00:23:32,171 He voluntarily took the Bible out of the minister's hand, 376 00:23:32,272 --> 00:23:34,312 and holding it, said, 377 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:38,903 "I swear before Almighty God, I did kill Brewer and Anderson." 378 00:23:39,003 --> 00:23:42,143 ♪♪ 379 00:23:42,248 --> 00:23:45,598 Rod: And a minute later, they hanged him, 380 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,600 and he was gone. 381 00:23:48,703 --> 00:23:49,983 I was thrilled. 382 00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:51,883 It was a relief. 383 00:23:51,982 --> 00:23:54,812 I know Mum and Dad were very relieved. 384 00:23:54,916 --> 00:23:56,916 Tom: I knew there was something wrong about this. 385 00:23:57,021 --> 00:24:00,271 I knew there was something terribly wrong about this. 386 00:24:00,369 --> 00:24:02,269 It happened in all the films. 387 00:24:02,371 --> 00:24:05,481 The good guys won. The baddies died. 388 00:24:05,582 --> 00:24:09,522 But I just seemed to think even then, 389 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:13,000 there was something going wrong, something I didn't agree with. 390 00:24:13,106 --> 00:24:21,666 ♪♪ 391 00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:24,080 John: After five years, I got parole, 392 00:24:24,186 --> 00:24:31,746 so...I got released from prison late December 1967. 393 00:24:31,849 --> 00:24:34,849 I came out believing that I was gonna hang around with the mates 394 00:24:34,956 --> 00:24:37,436 I used to hang around with before. 395 00:24:37,545 --> 00:24:39,955 But friends dropped off. 396 00:24:41,514 --> 00:24:46,144 They obviously believed that I was guilty, and that hurt. 397 00:24:46,243 --> 00:24:48,253 Frank: It wasn't a very good moment. 398 00:24:48,348 --> 00:24:51,518 The hurt, thinking all these people, 399 00:24:51,628 --> 00:24:53,658 they don't believe me, still. 400 00:24:53,768 --> 00:24:56,318 Think the hurt of Jack and Joan Anderson, 401 00:24:56,425 --> 00:24:59,185 the parents of Rosemary Anderson, 402 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:02,190 still not believing in him. 403 00:25:02,293 --> 00:25:04,403 You must think of it all the time. 404 00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,893 "Why? Why can't they believe me?" 405 00:25:07,989 --> 00:25:11,099 John: And all of a sudden, this life that I'd yearned for 406 00:25:11,199 --> 00:25:14,099 for so long was just a myth. 407 00:25:14,202 --> 00:25:19,142 And I think it was at that point that I lost all hope, 408 00:25:19,241 --> 00:25:22,001 and I started falling into deep depression. 409 00:25:22,106 --> 00:25:25,586 ♪♪ 410 00:25:31,806 --> 00:25:36,466 Naomi: Certainly growing up, I was very clear in my awareness 411 00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:39,539 that my dad was a criminal 412 00:25:39,641 --> 00:25:44,031 and served time in prison for manslaughter. 413 00:25:45,233 --> 00:25:48,653 When I was 10, 11 years of age, 414 00:25:48,754 --> 00:25:52,414 I remember driving up this road with my parents 415 00:25:52,516 --> 00:25:55,616 and my mum made a passing comment to my dad. 416 00:25:55,726 --> 00:25:59,066 "John, there's your old home." 417 00:25:59,178 --> 00:26:02,658 I looked up at that looming limestone wall, 418 00:26:02,768 --> 00:26:06,768 and as a 10-year-old, it really sunk in. 419 00:26:06,875 --> 00:26:09,635 My dad had lived the other side of that wall 420 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:11,540 for a period of time. 421 00:26:11,639 --> 00:26:15,059 I guess that was the moment when the enormity, 422 00:26:15,159 --> 00:26:19,089 the deep sadness and the pain of what my dad had experienced 423 00:26:19,198 --> 00:26:21,028 started to take hold of me. 424 00:26:21,131 --> 00:26:24,691 ♪♪ 425 00:26:24,790 --> 00:26:29,240 As I was growing, I noticed my father 426 00:26:29,346 --> 00:26:32,516 was still imprisoned emotionally within. 427 00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:36,175 ♪♪ 428 00:26:36,284 --> 00:26:39,464 I think I started to take on my dad's fight. 429 00:26:39,563 --> 00:26:41,083 It was so important for him, 430 00:26:41,185 --> 00:26:45,285 and that was therefore so important for me. 431 00:26:45,396 --> 00:26:47,946 I believed my father was innocent, 432 00:26:48,054 --> 00:26:51,824 but now we need proof that he was innocent. 433 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,540 ♪♪ 434 00:26:54,647 --> 00:26:56,987 And then I come into the picture. 435 00:26:57,098 --> 00:27:00,478 As fate would have it, I met John Button's brother Jim 436 00:27:00,584 --> 00:27:02,214 at a dance soon after. 437 00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:04,520 That's me dancing with Jim Button, in fact. 438 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,183 [Laughter] 439 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:07,899 I love dancing. 440 00:27:09,593 --> 00:27:13,463 Jim told me his brother had served time in prison 441 00:27:13,562 --> 00:27:16,192 for a murder that Cooke said he did. 442 00:27:16,289 --> 00:27:18,669 Well, I did not believe him, 443 00:27:18,775 --> 00:27:20,215 but I believed in the justice system. 444 00:27:20,328 --> 00:27:21,948 I believed in the police. 445 00:27:22,054 --> 00:27:23,684 But I'm a nosy journo. 446 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:26,130 I was curious. 447 00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:28,510 Naomi: I remember the phone rang, 448 00:27:28,612 --> 00:27:30,172 and it was my Uncle Jim. 449 00:27:30,269 --> 00:27:34,239 He had met this woman who was an investigative journalist. 450 00:27:34,342 --> 00:27:36,902 She was really keen to meet my dad. 451 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,970 So I got some time alone with John, then, 452 00:27:39,071 --> 00:27:41,731 who told me his story. 453 00:27:41,832 --> 00:27:44,972 I was pretty intrigued by the story, 454 00:27:45,077 --> 00:27:49,387 and I wondered what was there in the police files 455 00:27:49,495 --> 00:27:53,875 about Eric Edgar Cooke and John Button. 456 00:27:53,982 --> 00:27:56,232 And through my government networks as a press secretary, 457 00:27:56,329 --> 00:27:58,089 I was able to access all the Cooke 458 00:27:58,193 --> 00:28:00,683 and Button files that hadn't been public 459 00:28:00,782 --> 00:28:04,682 and had just been archived all those decades. 460 00:28:04,786 --> 00:28:08,406 This is the transcript of Button's trial, 461 00:28:08,514 --> 00:28:11,104 right back in 1963. 462 00:28:11,206 --> 00:28:13,516 I arrive at the police files, the record section, 463 00:28:13,622 --> 00:28:16,802 not knowing what I'd find. 464 00:28:16,902 --> 00:28:19,112 If anything, I thought I would find something 465 00:28:19,214 --> 00:28:21,014 that would find John Button guilty. 466 00:28:21,113 --> 00:28:24,393 "Very seldom locked the door..." 467 00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:25,665 But after a couple of days, 468 00:28:25,773 --> 00:28:28,053 I found something really extraordinary. 469 00:28:28,154 --> 00:28:30,094 ♪♪ 470 00:28:30,191 --> 00:28:32,781 Confessions that Cooke made that the police 471 00:28:32,883 --> 00:28:35,923 didn't make public at the time. 472 00:28:36,024 --> 00:28:39,034 Why would they keep them quiet? 473 00:28:39,131 --> 00:28:42,411 That's Cooke's handwriting. 474 00:28:42,513 --> 00:28:45,343 There were boxes of them. 475 00:28:45,447 --> 00:28:46,857 And in those confessions, 476 00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:51,376 I found his confessions to other violent crimes, 477 00:28:51,488 --> 00:28:53,558 other hit-runs against women. 478 00:28:53,662 --> 00:28:58,182 ♪♪ 479 00:28:58,288 --> 00:29:00,188 Well, who were these women? 480 00:29:00,290 --> 00:29:02,530 ♪♪ 481 00:29:02,637 --> 00:29:04,397 I had to track them down. 482 00:29:04,501 --> 00:29:06,541 ♪♪ 483 00:29:06,641 --> 00:29:08,131 Estelle: It's really interesting 484 00:29:08,229 --> 00:29:09,679 to go through it with you. 485 00:29:09,782 --> 00:29:13,302 Among all his confessions, I found Glenys Peak. 486 00:29:13,406 --> 00:29:15,476 I'm walking down here, minding me own business. 487 00:29:15,581 --> 00:29:17,311 I heard this car start up. 488 00:29:17,410 --> 00:29:18,930 [Engine starts] 489 00:29:19,033 --> 00:29:23,243 I got to about here, when I heard the car rev up. 490 00:29:23,347 --> 00:29:24,827 [Engine revving] 491 00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:27,275 I thought, "Oh, my God, he's going to hit me." 492 00:29:27,386 --> 00:29:29,596 And then all hell broke loose. 493 00:29:29,698 --> 00:29:31,218 One minute he was coming down the road, 494 00:29:31,321 --> 00:29:32,981 the next minute, I'm flying through the air. 495 00:29:33,081 --> 00:29:35,151 [Thud] 496 00:29:35,256 --> 00:29:38,666 And all I could think of was, "I've got to get home. 497 00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,357 I've got to get home." 498 00:29:40,468 --> 00:29:42,438 I kept screaming that he was coming for me. 499 00:29:42,539 --> 00:29:44,849 He's coming for me. 500 00:29:44,955 --> 00:29:46,955 Then I got the ambulance, and they took me to Perth, 501 00:29:47,061 --> 00:29:49,301 to the hospital. 502 00:29:49,408 --> 00:29:52,958 The next day, I could not be in the house on my own. 503 00:29:53,067 --> 00:29:56,617 I was absolutely scared stiff that he was gonna come back. 504 00:29:56,725 --> 00:30:01,275 I still cannot walk on the side of the road. 505 00:30:01,385 --> 00:30:04,215 Estelle: This was the same as Rosemary Anderson. 506 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:06,489 A woman walking along a dark street, 507 00:30:06,597 --> 00:30:08,907 late at night on her own. 508 00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:11,604 The M.O. was exactly the same. 509 00:30:11,706 --> 00:30:13,256 And then I discovered more. 510 00:30:13,363 --> 00:30:15,643 ♪♪ 511 00:30:15,744 --> 00:30:17,514 Woman: It was raining quite heavily, 512 00:30:17,608 --> 00:30:19,608 and luckily, we'd brought our umbrellas. 513 00:30:19,714 --> 00:30:22,544 Yeah.And we turned and we heard 514 00:30:22,648 --> 00:30:26,128 this car roaring, headed straight for us. 515 00:30:26,238 --> 00:30:28,588 I said, "Look out!" 516 00:30:28,688 --> 00:30:33,448 Maureen was hit and carried on the bonnet of the car, 517 00:30:33,555 --> 00:30:36,655 till when he turned left at Cross Street, 518 00:30:36,765 --> 00:30:38,275 and then she rolled off. 519 00:30:38,388 --> 00:30:41,698 Georgina was hit to the side. 520 00:30:41,805 --> 00:30:43,075 I had blood everywhere. 521 00:30:43,186 --> 00:30:47,706 My back was gashed open and my head. 522 00:30:47,811 --> 00:30:49,741 I just ran because I thought, 523 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,128 "He's gonna come back and get me, 524 00:30:51,228 --> 00:30:54,438 'cause he knows that he didn't get me." 525 00:30:54,542 --> 00:30:57,102 I had to sleep with my parents for a long time, 526 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,550 because I was scared. 527 00:30:58,649 --> 00:31:00,859 Maureen: Just scared. 528 00:31:00,962 --> 00:31:03,072 Estelle: Cooke had confessed to this, 529 00:31:03,171 --> 00:31:05,791 where he stole the car, where he saw the women, 530 00:31:05,898 --> 00:31:09,628 where he ran them down, and where he abandoned the car. 531 00:31:09,729 --> 00:31:13,289 And at the bottom, it was stated that the police 532 00:31:13,388 --> 00:31:17,288 and the Crown accepted those confessions as correct. 533 00:31:19,291 --> 00:31:22,671 Well, if Cooke did do these five other hit-runs 534 00:31:22,777 --> 00:31:24,877 and the police and the Crown, 535 00:31:24,986 --> 00:31:28,676 the state, accepted them, then hang on. 536 00:31:28,783 --> 00:31:32,933 ♪♪ 537 00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:34,649 That's what really got me going 538 00:31:34,754 --> 00:31:38,004 and pursuing this story very strongly, 539 00:31:38,103 --> 00:31:40,973 because I believe the cover-up of the other hit and runs 540 00:31:41,071 --> 00:31:43,071 was that, had we people of Perth at the time 541 00:31:43,177 --> 00:31:45,037 known that that was an M.O. of Cooke's, 542 00:31:45,144 --> 00:31:47,044 that he did it on five other occasions, 543 00:31:47,146 --> 00:31:49,006 we would have been much more open 544 00:31:49,114 --> 00:31:53,194 to John Button's pleas of innocence. 545 00:31:53,290 --> 00:31:56,050 All it could be was that if this showed 546 00:31:56,155 --> 00:31:59,015 that Cooke was the killer of Rosemary Anderson, 547 00:31:59,124 --> 00:32:02,824 it would prove that they had the wrong person in prison. 548 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,891 ♪♪ 549 00:32:05,993 --> 00:32:08,133 Naomi: Estelle came around to share with my parents 550 00:32:08,236 --> 00:32:11,406 that she had discovered a confession 551 00:32:11,515 --> 00:32:13,965 of other hit and runs that he had done. 552 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:16,210 John: She told me in the police files, 553 00:32:16,313 --> 00:32:20,323 there was a single page of five other accidents 554 00:32:20,421 --> 00:32:23,871 where Eric Cooke was involved in running down females, 555 00:32:23,976 --> 00:32:26,806 which showed that Eric Cooke's modus operandi 556 00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:30,600 was identical to what happened to Rosemary. 557 00:32:30,707 --> 00:32:34,157 Naomi: It was a pretty overwhelming moment. 558 00:32:34,262 --> 00:32:38,472 There was this energy for my mum and my brother and myself 559 00:32:38,577 --> 00:32:41,407 and my dad of, "We've got this, you know. 560 00:32:41,511 --> 00:32:43,271 We -- This is -- 561 00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:48,205 This is the time to -- to really, um... 562 00:32:48,311 --> 00:32:50,001 clear my dad's name." 563 00:32:50,106 --> 00:32:52,136 ♪♪ 564 00:32:52,246 --> 00:32:53,556 John: It gave me hope that one day, 565 00:32:53,661 --> 00:32:56,281 I'd be able to get back into living again. 566 00:32:56,388 --> 00:32:59,598 ♪♪ 567 00:32:59,701 --> 00:33:02,331 Estelle: But there was still a big problem. 568 00:33:02,428 --> 00:33:06,228 John had confessed to killing Rosemary. 569 00:33:06,329 --> 00:33:09,369 We believed that if he confessed to the crime, 570 00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:12,060 he must be guilty. 571 00:33:12,162 --> 00:33:14,272 I began to reappraise the evidence and wondered 572 00:33:14,371 --> 00:33:17,931 if there was truth to the claims that he confessed under duress. 573 00:33:18,030 --> 00:33:19,790 I began to interview the police. 574 00:33:19,894 --> 00:33:21,594 One most interesting one I did 575 00:33:21,689 --> 00:33:24,799 was with Detective Sergeant Max Baker. 576 00:33:24,899 --> 00:33:28,179 He said, "Things happen that you wouldn't read about. 577 00:33:28,282 --> 00:33:31,532 You might persuade the fellow with a couple of rib-ticklers, 578 00:33:31,630 --> 00:33:33,800 such as that would be far better if he told the truth. 579 00:33:33,908 --> 00:33:36,288 [Laughs]" He was laughing through this. 580 00:33:36,393 --> 00:33:38,743 "And that's where you went out of bounds." 581 00:33:38,844 --> 00:33:41,094 He told me this. 582 00:33:41,191 --> 00:33:45,471 Max: I do have a habit of hunches. 583 00:33:45,575 --> 00:33:51,335 I've put numerous people in jail for... 584 00:33:51,443 --> 00:33:55,383 One reason, I didn't believe what he was saying, 585 00:33:55,481 --> 00:33:57,411 and I kept at it. 586 00:33:57,518 --> 00:33:59,868 If you think that they're still guilty, 587 00:33:59,968 --> 00:34:03,798 you go to the boss and say, "Look, they've all said no. 588 00:34:03,903 --> 00:34:05,393 I reckon it's yes." 589 00:34:05,491 --> 00:34:08,771 "Well, Max, if you think that they're still guilty, 590 00:34:08,874 --> 00:34:10,464 go and have a go. 591 00:34:10,565 --> 00:34:13,595 Don't give up, just... just try again." 592 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:16,950 Estelle: This confirms to me 593 00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:19,435 they knew they'd got an innocent man. 594 00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:24,440 ♪♪ 595 00:34:24,545 --> 00:34:27,685 After that for me, everything changed. 596 00:34:27,789 --> 00:34:29,269 I knew John Button was innocent, 597 00:34:29,377 --> 00:34:32,477 and I needed him proved innocent. 598 00:34:32,587 --> 00:34:37,767 Being part of the community, how could we allow this to happen? 599 00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:40,938 I really felt I needed to take responsibility 600 00:34:41,044 --> 00:34:44,534 and do something to make a difference. 601 00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:46,714 I didn't think it was right that John Button should 602 00:34:46,808 --> 00:34:49,498 go through the rest of his life as a murderer. 603 00:34:49,604 --> 00:34:52,024 I really wanted to get him a new appeal. 604 00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:54,264 There's justice to expose. 605 00:34:54,368 --> 00:34:57,678 ♪♪ 606 00:34:57,785 --> 00:35:01,685 I wrote a book about Cooke, the life and crimes of Cooke 607 00:35:01,789 --> 00:35:03,339 that were never known before. 608 00:35:03,446 --> 00:35:06,236 ♪♪ 609 00:35:06,345 --> 00:35:07,895 We published it. 610 00:35:08,002 --> 00:35:09,902 ♪♪ 611 00:35:10,004 --> 00:35:11,704 Couple of weeks later, 612 00:35:11,799 --> 00:35:16,149 the Attorney General granted a new appeal. 613 00:35:16,252 --> 00:35:20,332 Wow, we had a new appeal for John Button. 614 00:35:20,428 --> 00:35:23,538 Naomi: I saw that hope reignite for my dad. 615 00:35:23,638 --> 00:35:26,118 This is the time that someone's gonna take responsibility 616 00:35:26,227 --> 00:35:28,227 for what happened to my dad. 617 00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:31,203 ♪♪ 618 00:35:31,301 --> 00:35:33,271 Estelle: But I was very nervous 619 00:35:33,372 --> 00:35:36,482 about whether we had enough fresh evidence to win. 620 00:35:38,722 --> 00:35:41,102 Reporter #2: John Button spent five years in jail 621 00:35:41,208 --> 00:35:44,108 for killing his teenage girlfriend, Rosemary Anderson. 622 00:35:44,211 --> 00:35:47,701 37 years later, he's won the right to a second appeal. 623 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,940 But the struggle to clear his name is far from over. 624 00:35:51,045 --> 00:35:52,525 Today, the DPP argued 625 00:35:52,633 --> 00:35:55,193 that Eric Cooke's confessions aren't proof. 626 00:35:55,291 --> 00:35:57,981 The Crown are entitled to insist on strict proof 627 00:35:58,086 --> 00:36:00,186 of these matters, and we'll prove them. 628 00:36:00,296 --> 00:36:04,816 ♪♪ 629 00:36:04,921 --> 00:36:09,061 Bret: We published Estelle's book in "The Post" newspapers. 630 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,857 Her book was a masterpiece of research. 631 00:36:11,962 --> 00:36:14,342 That was that incredible photo of Eric Cooke 632 00:36:14,448 --> 00:36:16,348 in front of his car. 633 00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:17,970 I'd met John, 634 00:36:18,072 --> 00:36:20,012 and he certainly didn't seem like the sort of person 635 00:36:20,108 --> 00:36:22,248 who was capable of killing someone deliberately. 636 00:36:22,352 --> 00:36:23,942 Accident scene... 637 00:36:24,043 --> 00:36:26,983 Or even losing his temper enough to accidentally kill them. 638 00:36:27,081 --> 00:36:28,981 Amazing stuff. 639 00:36:29,083 --> 00:36:31,883 His story seemed to stack up. 640 00:36:31,982 --> 00:36:34,642 And this was where I lived. 641 00:36:34,744 --> 00:36:37,444 But the fresh evidence of the other hit-runs... 642 00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:39,130 This fence wasn't there. 643 00:36:39,231 --> 00:36:41,481 ...that was important, but it was not proof that Cooke, 644 00:36:41,578 --> 00:36:45,058 in fact, was driving the car that killed Rosemary Anderson. 645 00:36:45,168 --> 00:36:46,718 This was all open. 646 00:36:46,825 --> 00:36:50,725 That's not evidence. I mean, belief is not proof. 647 00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:53,689 I reckon that the answer to solving all crimes 648 00:36:53,797 --> 00:36:56,177 always lies in the science. 649 00:36:56,283 --> 00:36:57,973 So then I went searching for someone who knew 650 00:36:58,077 --> 00:37:02,287 all about car versus pedestrian crashes, the science of it, 651 00:37:02,392 --> 00:37:05,432 and I tracked this fellow down in the United States, 652 00:37:05,533 --> 00:37:07,023 a bloke called Rusty Haight. 653 00:37:07,121 --> 00:37:10,751 I paid his fare to come out here and run some crash tests. 654 00:37:10,849 --> 00:37:13,849 ♪♪ 655 00:37:13,955 --> 00:37:15,575 I said to Rusty, 656 00:37:15,681 --> 00:37:17,481 'I don't want you to come here to prove John innocent. 657 00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:19,690 I want you to come and prove the truth. 658 00:37:19,789 --> 00:37:24,349 If these tests show John is guilty, well, so be it." 659 00:37:24,449 --> 00:37:29,759 ♪♪ 660 00:37:29,868 --> 00:37:31,898 Naomi: I remember my parents and I heading down 661 00:37:32,008 --> 00:37:37,318 to the Claremont Showgrounds for this test to be conducted. 662 00:37:37,427 --> 00:37:41,667 Bret sourced cars to be used. 663 00:37:41,776 --> 00:37:43,916 Bret: Four Simcas, and the Simca was the car 664 00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:45,710 that was owned by John Button. 665 00:37:45,815 --> 00:37:48,435 And I also bought a 1961 Holden. 666 00:37:48,542 --> 00:37:50,302 Now, that was the car that Eric Cooke said 667 00:37:50,406 --> 00:37:52,546 he had hit Rosemary with. 668 00:37:52,649 --> 00:37:56,899 Naomi: Rusty brought his own mannequins and equipment needed. 669 00:37:56,998 --> 00:37:59,348 Bret: The crash-test dummy was the same size 670 00:37:59,449 --> 00:38:00,589 as Rosemary Anderson. 671 00:38:00,692 --> 00:38:02,382 Weight is actually not material, 672 00:38:02,487 --> 00:38:04,277 but roughly the same height is important, 673 00:38:04,385 --> 00:38:06,695 because humans have a high center of gravity, 674 00:38:06,801 --> 00:38:08,361 and if they're struck by a car, 675 00:38:08,458 --> 00:38:11,008 they tend to wrap around the front of the car 676 00:38:11,116 --> 00:38:14,426 because most of the weight is above. 677 00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:17,673 This was a really huge moment, and I think at that time, 678 00:38:17,778 --> 00:38:21,438 we were all caught up in the excitement of possibility. 679 00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:23,130 Rusty: There you go. Alright, now. 680 00:38:23,231 --> 00:38:24,821 Go ahead and give her a... Whoa, whoa, slowly, slowly. 681 00:38:24,923 --> 00:38:27,063 Bret: The tests, they were gonna show 682 00:38:27,166 --> 00:38:29,066 whether John was a liar and a killer 683 00:38:29,168 --> 00:38:31,448 or whether he was totally innocent. 684 00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:33,070 I felt pretty anxious, yeah. 685 00:38:33,172 --> 00:38:36,352 That's probably good. 686 00:38:36,452 --> 00:38:40,112 Prisons are full of people who never did it, according to them. 687 00:38:40,214 --> 00:38:43,984 So when John Button and his case was referred 688 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,940 to the Court of Criminal Appeal, there was shock, 689 00:38:46,047 --> 00:38:50,667 outrage and fear among the general community. 690 00:38:50,776 --> 00:38:52,986 I couldn't believe it. 691 00:38:53,089 --> 00:38:55,989 I thought no judge could be so stupid. 692 00:38:56,092 --> 00:38:58,682 Hugh: John Button, he had signed a confession. 693 00:38:58,784 --> 00:39:02,064 If he'd signed it, we had to accept it as being the case. 694 00:39:02,167 --> 00:39:04,307 The confession was real, yeah. 695 00:39:04,411 --> 00:39:07,481 And they had got to it in a trustworthy way. 696 00:39:07,586 --> 00:39:08,856 It was a shock. 697 00:39:08,967 --> 00:39:11,487 You confess to the crime, you've done it. 698 00:39:11,590 --> 00:39:14,560 You don't confess to a crime you haven't done. 699 00:39:14,662 --> 00:39:16,912 That's the way we thought at the time. 700 00:39:17,009 --> 00:39:18,799 Reporter #3: There's been appeals and counterappeals. 701 00:39:18,908 --> 00:39:21,188 John Button even took his case to the High Court, 702 00:39:21,289 --> 00:39:22,669 but it failed. 703 00:39:22,774 --> 00:39:25,714 Now it's his last chance, the result of journalist 704 00:39:25,811 --> 00:39:29,851 Estelle Blackburn uncovering startling new evidence. 705 00:39:29,953 --> 00:39:32,683 Estelle: We had the whole state against us, 706 00:39:32,784 --> 00:39:34,684 a director of public prosecutions 707 00:39:34,786 --> 00:39:38,646 with a whole team working against us volunteers. 708 00:39:38,755 --> 00:39:40,065 Tom: But, of course, 709 00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:41,520 that was just going to be the start of it. 710 00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:44,760 We'd need to get three judges over the line. 711 00:39:44,865 --> 00:39:48,965 Very difficult when there's existing conviction. 712 00:39:49,076 --> 00:39:53,006 Court of Criminal Appeal Matter number 122 of 2000, 713 00:39:53,114 --> 00:39:54,464 Button against the Queen. 714 00:39:54,564 --> 00:39:57,674 Tom: The Crown fought us every step of the way. 715 00:39:57,774 --> 00:40:00,674 I've never fought a case as hard as I had to fight that one, 716 00:40:00,777 --> 00:40:05,467 because there was no cooperation from the prosecution at all. 717 00:40:05,575 --> 00:40:08,295 Yes, may it please the court, I appear... 718 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:12,436 The fresh evidence is put through the hoops, if you like, 719 00:40:12,548 --> 00:40:18,928 and only submitted if it is found to have cogency. 720 00:40:19,037 --> 00:40:20,277 These are copies of the photographs 721 00:40:20,383 --> 00:40:21,803 that were given to the judges. 722 00:40:21,902 --> 00:40:23,352 These were the undamaged cars, 723 00:40:23,455 --> 00:40:26,245 showing the vehicles prior to the tests. 724 00:40:26,354 --> 00:40:28,984 ♪♪ 725 00:40:29,081 --> 00:40:32,051 We built a gallows contraption to suspend the dummy, 726 00:40:32,153 --> 00:40:36,683 and Rusty drove the three Simcas at the dummy... 727 00:40:36,779 --> 00:40:39,849 at three different speeds. 728 00:40:39,954 --> 00:40:42,444 He wanted to assess whether you'd sustain any damage 729 00:40:42,543 --> 00:40:43,863 to the front of the car, 730 00:40:43,958 --> 00:40:46,368 if you hit a lifelike dummy at the speed 731 00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:50,518 that the police said John Button hit Rosemary. 732 00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:53,350 And it was an absolutely graphic representation 733 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,631 of what had happened to her. It was horrible. 734 00:40:55,729 --> 00:40:56,939 It was really quite... 735 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,420 very, very sickening, for all of us, 736 00:40:59,526 --> 00:41:01,696 but for John, it was a nightmare come true. 737 00:41:01,804 --> 00:41:09,434 ♪♪ 738 00:41:09,536 --> 00:41:11,676 You start thinking that's the way it actually was. 739 00:41:11,779 --> 00:41:14,469 That's the way it actually happened. 740 00:41:14,575 --> 00:41:16,745 I was devastated. 741 00:41:16,853 --> 00:41:19,553 All I could think of was her being hurt. 742 00:41:19,649 --> 00:41:22,199 It's the only thing that went through my mind. 743 00:41:22,307 --> 00:41:24,267 Bret: You'll see that massive amount of damage there, 744 00:41:24,378 --> 00:41:26,408 and damage to the leading edge there, 745 00:41:26,518 --> 00:41:29,588 which is not evident on the police photographs 746 00:41:29,694 --> 00:41:31,804 of John Button's car. 747 00:41:31,903 --> 00:41:33,873 It's probably clearest in that photograph there. 748 00:41:33,974 --> 00:41:35,084 See the line of the... 749 00:41:35,182 --> 00:41:36,632 all the bonnet's completely crushed. 750 00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:38,595 Interviewer: Does that mean that if John Button's car 751 00:41:38,703 --> 00:41:39,673 had have hit Rosemary... 752 00:41:39,773 --> 00:41:41,263 That would have happened to it. 753 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,430 ♪♪ 754 00:41:46,538 --> 00:41:48,818 So it's clear and obvious that John Button's car 755 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,370 could not have hit Rosemary, 756 00:41:50,473 --> 00:41:53,103 because that would have been the damage to his car, 757 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,860 especially had he hit her hard enough to kill her. 758 00:41:55,961 --> 00:41:57,271 That is the... 759 00:41:57,376 --> 00:42:00,966 That is the really salient point. 760 00:42:01,070 --> 00:42:04,970 In every case with the Simca, there was no damage 761 00:42:05,074 --> 00:42:06,634 to the front of the car. 762 00:42:06,731 --> 00:42:11,391 The whole damage was to a massive dent in the bonnet. 763 00:42:11,494 --> 00:42:14,674 These Supreme Court judges were told that Eric Cooke 764 00:42:14,773 --> 00:42:17,673 not only confessed to killing Rosemary Anderson, 765 00:42:17,776 --> 00:42:21,396 he gave precise details about how he ran her down 766 00:42:21,504 --> 00:42:22,894 in a stolen car 767 00:42:22,988 --> 00:42:24,988 that he later crashed in Kings Park. 768 00:42:26,992 --> 00:42:30,312 Tom: I thought it was a big volume of evidence for John, 769 00:42:30,409 --> 00:42:31,859 but to buttress that, 770 00:42:31,963 --> 00:42:33,903 he then went and got a car of the same type 771 00:42:33,999 --> 00:42:38,249 that Cooke we know was driving that night, a Holden, 772 00:42:38,348 --> 00:42:41,558 and conducted the same sort of tests. 773 00:42:41,662 --> 00:42:43,632 Estelle: Cooke's confession to Rosemary Anderson's murder 774 00:42:43,733 --> 00:42:45,633 was that she'd gone up on the bonnet, 775 00:42:45,735 --> 00:42:49,495 that she had come up under the sun visor on that old Holden, 776 00:42:49,601 --> 00:42:53,331 and then rolled off onto the side of the road. 777 00:42:53,432 --> 00:42:56,542 Bret: So Rusty drove this Holden at the speed Eric Cooke 778 00:42:56,643 --> 00:42:58,853 said he was traveling, about 35 miles an hour, 779 00:42:58,955 --> 00:43:01,855 and it hit the dummy at high speed. 780 00:43:01,958 --> 00:43:04,168 ♪♪ 781 00:43:04,271 --> 00:43:07,311 This is a picture showing the Holden hitting the dummy 782 00:43:07,412 --> 00:43:10,102 and the dummy cartwheeling over the front of the car. 783 00:43:10,208 --> 00:43:12,588 You can see the head contacting the bonnet 784 00:43:12,693 --> 00:43:16,663 and contacting the sun visor there. 785 00:43:16,766 --> 00:43:18,076 John: I think the reason 786 00:43:18,181 --> 00:43:19,911 the police refused to believe Eric Cooke 787 00:43:20,011 --> 00:43:21,631 was that it had a sun visor, 788 00:43:21,737 --> 00:43:24,217 and if a body hits and gets caught under the sun visor, 789 00:43:24,325 --> 00:43:27,085 it would rip the sun visor off. 790 00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:29,020 Bret: Here it is leaving the sun visor, 791 00:43:29,123 --> 00:43:31,303 and the sun visor popping back into place, 792 00:43:31,401 --> 00:43:34,061 and not even cracking the paint on the sun visor, 793 00:43:34,163 --> 00:43:36,583 let alone ripping it off or damaging it. 794 00:43:36,683 --> 00:43:38,583 The police report said that Rosemary's body 795 00:43:38,685 --> 00:43:40,995 had been displaced well off the side of the road, 796 00:43:41,101 --> 00:43:43,171 two to three meters in fact. 797 00:43:43,275 --> 00:43:45,795 When Rusty hit the dummy with the Simca, 798 00:43:45,899 --> 00:43:48,069 there was no displacement or anything like that. 799 00:43:48,177 --> 00:43:50,517 It just sort of rolled up onto the front of the car, 800 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:53,078 but then just sort of rolled off. 801 00:43:53,182 --> 00:43:55,182 Whereas with the Holden, 802 00:43:55,287 --> 00:43:57,767 it was the same as Cooke's description of it, 803 00:43:57,876 --> 00:43:59,596 and the police report. 804 00:44:03,192 --> 00:44:05,952 We knew a decision was to be delivered, 805 00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:09,647 and the buildup to that was a really powerful moment. 806 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:11,410 Man #4: Silence in court. Please stand. 807 00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:15,030 You always have these very nervous moments before verdict. 808 00:44:15,135 --> 00:44:18,965 We all rose to receive the court. 809 00:44:19,070 --> 00:44:20,140 However, the Chief Justice, 810 00:44:20,243 --> 00:44:22,973 he read a 20-minute spiel about it. 811 00:44:23,074 --> 00:44:26,084 All of this material needs to be considered 812 00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:30,670 against the background of Mr. Button's youth at the time. 813 00:44:30,771 --> 00:44:32,321 One minute you thought, "We're gone." 814 00:44:32,428 --> 00:44:34,398 The next minute you think, "We're getting up on this." 815 00:44:34,499 --> 00:44:36,019 And the next minute you think, 816 00:44:36,121 --> 00:44:37,741 "They've got a problem with this." 817 00:44:37,847 --> 00:44:40,367 Similar fact evidence points directly to the likelihood... 818 00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:41,780 Tom: You never know. 819 00:44:41,886 --> 00:44:44,266 Sometimes you have verdicts go the wrong way. 820 00:44:44,371 --> 00:44:45,651 Interviewer: What were you feeling at that point? 821 00:44:45,752 --> 00:44:48,002 Pretty sick. 822 00:44:48,099 --> 00:44:49,409 Very nerve-racking. 823 00:44:49,514 --> 00:44:51,144 We had to sit there for 30 minutes, 824 00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,210 listening to him give the facts of the case and ah-di-dah. 825 00:44:53,311 --> 00:44:54,591 Chief Justice: Whether the appellant's 826 00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:55,832 Simca motor vehicle was involved 827 00:44:55,934 --> 00:44:58,214 in running down Ms. Anderson... 828 00:44:58,316 --> 00:45:02,076 Naomi: I remember holding my dad's hand. 829 00:45:02,182 --> 00:45:06,292 My mum sat holding his hand as well. 830 00:45:06,393 --> 00:45:08,913 And it was intense as we waited. 831 00:45:09,016 --> 00:45:14,056 ♪♪ 832 00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:16,089 Chief Justice: I have concluded that the evidence 833 00:45:16,196 --> 00:45:20,986 of Mr. Haight is sufficient to raise a reasonable doubt. 834 00:45:21,097 --> 00:45:23,617 All combine to lead me to the conclusion 835 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,761 that the verdict must be regarded 836 00:45:25,861 --> 00:45:30,041 as unsafe and unsatisfactory on the grounds... 837 00:45:30,141 --> 00:45:32,731 [Cheers and applause] 838 00:45:39,184 --> 00:45:42,464 ...on the ground that there has been a miscarriage of justice. 839 00:45:42,567 --> 00:45:52,297 ♪♪ 840 00:45:52,404 --> 00:45:58,584 ♪♪ 841 00:45:58,686 --> 00:46:00,476 Naomi: My dad didn't do it. 842 00:46:00,585 --> 00:46:04,865 This is proof that others can see and know as well. 843 00:46:04,969 --> 00:46:10,419 And it was just this most amazing and delightful relief. 844 00:46:10,526 --> 00:46:16,566 ♪♪ 845 00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:19,260 Reporter #4: John Button finally had his day in court 846 00:46:19,362 --> 00:46:20,922 and made legal history 847 00:46:21,019 --> 00:46:25,059 after nearly 40 years of fighting to clear his name. 848 00:46:25,161 --> 00:46:28,821 It was amazing. It was a wonderful moment. 849 00:46:28,924 --> 00:46:30,894 Oh, relief, vindication. 850 00:46:30,995 --> 00:46:33,065 Finally we've got there. 851 00:46:33,169 --> 00:46:36,349 Tom: We were able to prove that Button didn't kill this girl 852 00:46:36,448 --> 00:46:40,278 and that Cooke, beyond almost any doubt, did so. 853 00:46:40,383 --> 00:46:42,043 We were over the moon. 854 00:46:42,144 --> 00:46:44,084 Oh, Rusty. 855 00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:46,010 Oh, it's been absolutely unbelievable. 856 00:46:46,113 --> 00:46:48,323 It's a wonderful time over here. 857 00:46:48,426 --> 00:46:51,456 I just wanted to savor the moment. 858 00:46:51,567 --> 00:46:52,877 I was freed, finally. 859 00:46:52,982 --> 00:46:54,882 Exonerated. 860 00:46:54,984 --> 00:46:57,644 Completely freed. 861 00:46:58,954 --> 00:47:02,724 I...I knew life was gonna to be different again. 862 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:06,860 ♪♪ 863 00:47:10,034 --> 00:47:13,074 ♪♪ 864 00:47:13,175 --> 00:47:16,275 Estelle: After John Button's appeal, I was exhausted. 865 00:47:16,385 --> 00:47:18,245 But I was really pleased to know 866 00:47:18,352 --> 00:47:23,362 that my research had helped clear his name. 867 00:47:23,461 --> 00:47:26,401 But I couldn't shake from my mind the appalling way 868 00:47:26,498 --> 00:47:30,918 the police had treated John, and I had this nagging feeling 869 00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:35,650 that he wasn't the only victim of police misconduct. 870 00:47:35,749 --> 00:47:38,889 So I delved into another case, Daryl Beamish, 871 00:47:38,994 --> 00:47:41,274 who'd been sentenced to life imprisonment 872 00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:44,545 for the killing of Jillian Brewer. 873 00:47:44,654 --> 00:47:47,764 And what I discovered absolutely floored me. 874 00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:50,755 ♪ You can take it back 875 00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:52,868 ♪ Back to the start 876 00:47:52,973 --> 00:47:57,253 We had really only just scratched the surface. 877 00:47:57,357 --> 00:47:58,697 And, of course, at the back of my mind 878 00:47:58,806 --> 00:48:01,086 as I walked out of the case, I was thinking, 879 00:48:01,188 --> 00:48:02,978 "Well, now we have to do Beamish." 880 00:48:03,087 --> 00:48:06,777 ♪ Never know the pain 881 00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:08,334 And suddenly, it occurred to me. 882 00:48:08,437 --> 00:48:11,917 I thought, "My God, that's the bloke!" 883 00:48:12,027 --> 00:48:14,507 I see it as a private holocaust. 884 00:48:14,615 --> 00:48:16,475 It only belongs to me. 885 00:48:16,583 --> 00:48:20,073 Man #5: The police took justice into their own hands. 886 00:48:20,173 --> 00:48:23,663 Man #6: He wouldn't have a bar that Beamish was innocent. 887 00:48:23,762 --> 00:48:25,422 Estelle: Very, very light on detail, 888 00:48:25,523 --> 00:48:28,533 and yet this is what he was condemned to death on. 889 00:48:28,629 --> 00:48:31,249 I'm so angry the police got away with it. 890 00:48:31,356 --> 00:48:32,806 It's changed us all, hasn't it? 891 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,710 And I don't think you will ever find your freedom. 892 00:48:35,809 --> 00:48:38,989 I said, "No matter what happens, don't run away from it." 893 00:48:39,088 --> 00:48:47,818 ♪♪ 894 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:56,685 ♪♪ 895 00:48:56,795 --> 00:49:05,525 ♪♪ 896 00:49:05,632 --> 00:49:14,502 ♪♪ 64314

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