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{\an8} In the criminal justice system,
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{\an8}the people are represented
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{\an8}by two separate, yet
equally important groups:
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{\an8}The police, who
investigate crime,
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{\an8}and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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{\an8}These are their stories.
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Hey.
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Where you headed
tonight, beautiful?
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Can I come?
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Come on. Where you going?
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Come back.
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Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to...
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Station's locked down.
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MTA is rerouting trains
in both directions,
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but they're eager to
get things moving again.
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Where's that level of urgency
when there isn't a dead body
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to deal with?
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Cause of death?
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Can't say for sure.
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But given the
petechial hemorrhaging,
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my guess is asphyxia.
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So he was strangled to death.
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How long ago did this happen?
- Less than an hour.
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- Any witnesses?
- None so far.
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The MTA worker who
found the body said
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he walked the car
15 minutes before,
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but he didn't see
anything unusual.
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So the call came in at 12:34,
so the murder had to happen
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sometime between
12:15 and 12:30.
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We need the security
footage from every station
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the train passed through
in that window, okay?
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Okay.
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All right, young man, let's see.
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No phone.
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Oh, vic's still got his wallet.
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Ellis Joyner, just turned 24.
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Yeah, I thought he
looked familiar.
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You know him?
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Not personally, he's
a stand-up comic.
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Came from down South,
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loved to talk about how
much he liked New York.
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Great place to live
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not such a great place to die.
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We found bleeding in the
anterior neck strap muscles,
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as well as fractures
in the hyoid bone
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{\an8}and thyroid cartilage horns.
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{\an8}And that means?
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{\an8}He died of cerebral ischemia
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{\an8}due to a lack of blood
flow to the brain.
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{\an8}I'd say his carotid arteries
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{\an8}and jugular vein were
compressed bilaterally,
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{\an8}like this.
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{\an8}So the killer had him
in a sleeper hold?
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{\an8}Exactly, a carotid sleeper hold.
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{\an8}So you're saying our
vic was choked to death.
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{\an8}Yes, and it's not like
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{\an8}he had an easy time
breathing on his own.
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{\an8}What do you mean?
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{\an8}ME pulled Joyner's
medical records.
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{\an8}Turns out he had severe asthma.
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{\an8}She said his lungs
were hyperinflated,
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{\an8}which means he was likely
having an attack when he died.
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{\an8}- Was that the cause of death?
- No.
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{\an8}That would be strangulation,
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{\an8}probably from a
lethal choke hold.
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{\an8}What else do we
know about the vic?
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{\an8}He was single, lived alone.
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{\an8}Both parents were deceased.
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{\an8}His latest comedy
special on YouTube
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{\an8}had over a million views...
the guy was pretty popular.
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{\an8}Yeah, well, not with everyone.
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{\an8}What about his phone?
Did we ping it?
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{\an8}No signal.
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{\an8}Bright side is, the
MLI found fresh blood
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{\an8}on Joyner's jacket that
didn't match his blood type,
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{\an8}so the lab's going
through that right now.
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{\an8}All right, so where are
we with the video footage?
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{\an8}Our train passed
through 6 stations
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{\an8}within the 15-minute window.
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{\an8}Of the 6, 4 of them had
cameras that were broken.
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{\an8}Footage from the 2 stations
that had working cameras
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{\an8}caught a few dozen people
getting on and off the trains.
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{\an8}Yeah, except none of 'em go into
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{\an8}or out of the car
where Joyner was found.
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{\an8}Hey, so Joyner's
MetroCard was swiped
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{\an8}at 14th Street Station,
where he got on.
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{\an8}There were no working
cameras there either.
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{\an8}But I pulled street-cam footage
from outside the station.
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{\an8}The closest I could get
was a few blocks away,
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{\an8}but I found this.
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{\an8}Well, that dude
does not look happy.
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{\an8}- Yeah.
- Can you zoom in on his face?
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{\an8}Wait, is that...
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{\an8}- Malcolm Paige?
- The comedian?
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{\an8}He used to open for
Chappelle back in the day.
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{\an8}Track him down.
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{\an8}An audience member at
your show last night
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{\an8}posted this to
their social media.
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{\an8}It'd be a massive
disappointment
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{\an8}if he was even remotely
relevant anymore.
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{\an8}But you know what they say.
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{\an8}You either die a hero
or live long enough
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{\an8}to become Malcolm Paige.
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{\an8}Is that why you attacked
him after the show?
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{\an8}He attacked me.
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{\an8}Got his panties all in a
twist because he didn't like
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{\an8}some of the jokes I was tellin'.
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{\an8}Hit too close to
home for fancy boy.
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{\an8}Is this you trying to
imply that Joyner was gay?
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{\an8}I ain't implying nothing.
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{\an8}The point is, he embarrassed you
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{\an8}in front of what was
supposed to be your audience.
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{\an8}I mean, it must've really
pissed you off, huh?
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{\an8}Whatever.
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{\an8}You know, we have video of
you taking a swing at Joyner.
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{\an8}So what happened?
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{\an8}You follow him down the subway,
try to finish the fight?
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{\an8}My car service picked me up
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{\an8}right after Joyner ran
off like a little bitch,
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{\an8}followed by his b...
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{\an8}Boyfriend in tow.
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{\an8}You're saying he
was with somebody?
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{\an8}He was with a dude,
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{\an8}and they weren't
getting along either.
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{\an8}Paige's car service
confirms his alibi.
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{\an8}I went through Joyner's texts
and emails in the cloud.
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{\an8}There's no evidence
he had a boyfriend.
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{\an8}Well, I think that's 'cause
he was still in the closet.
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{\an8}I contacted the Travlr app.
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{\an8}They gave me access
to his account here.
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{\an8}It looks like he was dating
somebody he met on the site.
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{\an8}A lot of messages between him
and a guy named Michael Zane.
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{\an8}He's in the system.
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{\an8}Zane was arrested for
aggravated assault last year.
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{\an8}Hmm.
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{\an8}Yeah, these two were definitely
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{\an8}in some kind of fight.
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{\an8}I mean, "Keep on like
this, you'll end up dead."
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{\an8}Either the Zane guy
can see the future or.
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{\an8}I didn't kill Ellis.
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{\an8}I cared about him very much.
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{\an8}"Keep on like this, and
you're gonna end up dead."
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{\an8}You didn't send that message?
- No, not like that.
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{\an8}I was talking about
his... self-hatred.
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{\an8}We have an eyewitness
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{\an8}that puts the two of you
together night before last.
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{\an8}Said you guys were in
some kind of fight.
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{\an8}We were.
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{\an8}I thought things would
be better for him
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{\an8}if he allowed himself
to live openly,
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{\an8}but he refused.
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{\an8}He was convinced his fan
base would turn on him.
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{\an8}This fight ever turn physical?
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{\an8}No, of course not.
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{\an8}We are aware of your prior
for aggravated assault.
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{\an8}I was in a bar when two
dudes got into a fight.
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{\an8}I tried to break
things up, but...
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{\an8}I'm Black, so when
the cops showed up...
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{\an8}So you were on the train
with Ellis that night?
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{\an8}Yeah.
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{\an8}Malcolm Paige had
just attacked him,
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{\an8}and he said he wanted
time to be alone.
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{\an8}So I got off after a
few stops, went home.
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{\an8}Did you notice
anything suspicious
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{\an8}while you were on the subway?
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{\an8}Yeah.
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{\an8}Uh, there was a guy
on the subway with us,
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{\an8}white guy.
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{\an8}He kept staring at us.
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{\an8}And when I got up to get
off, he stepped in my way.
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{\an8}- On purpose?
- Yeah.
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{\an8}I wasn't in the mood, so
I just brushed past him.
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{\an8}Did he say anything to you?
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{\an8}"Watch yourself."
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{\an8}- Can you describe him?
- Brown hair.
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{\an8}He was wearing
bright-yellow sneakers,
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{\an8}like, neon,
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{\an8}and a hoodie
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with some kind of
symbol on the back.
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- What station is that?
- 86th Street,
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one stop before the one where
Joyner's body was found.
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Okay, but we can't
see his face, though.
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Can you find another angle?
- This is all we've got.
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Can you zoom in on that?
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Wait a second. I've
seen that logo before.
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This place opened
up about a year ago.
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Been peppering my
neighborhood with flyers.
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Mixed martial arts
is the future, huh?
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Yeah, maybe this
is where our killer
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learned to strangle people.
- 'Sup? How you doing?
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Uh, yeah, we'd like
to talk to the owner.
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Is he here?
- Dom?
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Um, you just missed him.
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He left, like, two minutes ago.
- Is that him?
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Yep.
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I see it.
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You know when he's
gonna be back?
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He was getting a
cab to the airport.
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Did he say where he was going?
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I want to say Toronto.
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Which way did he go?
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Vince.
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Hey!
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Hey, NYPD. Mr. Kovac, NYPD.
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- Hey.
- Hey!
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- Do not move!
- NYPD!
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- Do you hear me? Do not move!
- NYPD!
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I didn't know you
guys were cops.
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Yeah, you just treat
everybody that way?
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- Treat Ellis Joyner that way?
- I don't know who that is.
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He was choked to death two
nights ago in the subway.
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That ringing a bell?
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Okay, tough guy,
you're coming with us.
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Get up.
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I've never seen this
guy before in my life.
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You know, Domhnall, we are aware
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of your four previous
convictions for assault,
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all against Black victims,
two charged as hate crimes.
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Clocked that tattoo on you
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the combat boots with the "88."
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That's a white
nationalist symbol.
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So what happened?
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You see a Black
guy on the train,
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decided to take him out?
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I didn't do anything to anyone.
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Hey.
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I'm the one talking to you.
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Fine.
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I'll tell you, then.
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I had nothing to do with
what happened to that guy.
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Where were you around
midnight night before last?
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- Chelsea, working out.
- You work out at that hour?
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I run an intensive
training program
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for some guys at the gym.
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I call it the Combat Academy.
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I base it on the Navy
SEALs training course.
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So, once a week, we do a
late-night endurance run.
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00:11:37,072 --> 00:11:38,716
And when did this
endurance run end?
239
00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,217
Around midnight.
240
00:11:40,241 --> 00:11:42,553
Okay, so you go on
your little fun run.
241
00:11:42,577 --> 00:11:45,097
Then you get on the subway,
and you kill Ellis Joyner.
242
00:11:45,121 --> 00:11:46,891
I was never on the subway.
243
00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:48,809
We have you on video.
244
00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:52,271
You can make out this sweatshirt
245
00:11:52,295 --> 00:11:54,565
and those sneakers clear as day.
246
00:11:54,589 --> 00:11:56,859
These are part of the
Combat Academy uniform.
247
00:11:56,883 --> 00:11:58,343
Every member has them.
248
00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:02,323
Look, fellas, I'm
trying to tell you
249
00:12:02,347 --> 00:12:05,034
after the run was over, I went
to my girlfriend's apartment.
250
00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:07,078
She lives a few blocks away.
251
00:12:07,102 --> 00:12:09,955
You can check with her doorman.
252
00:12:09,979 --> 00:12:12,375
All right, and would
you be willing to submit
253
00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,669
to a DNA swab?
254
00:12:14,693 --> 00:12:15,795
Fine.
255
00:12:15,819 --> 00:12:17,088
We're also gonna need the names
256
00:12:17,112 --> 00:12:20,091
of every member of
your Combat Academy
257
00:12:20,115 --> 00:12:21,509
that was there that night.
258
00:12:30,583 --> 00:12:32,383
All right. See you guys.
259
00:12:33,461 --> 00:12:36,315
- Brandon Arnou?
- Yes?
260
00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:39,026
NYPD, we need to talk
to you for a minute.
261
00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:41,278
Uh, yeah, of course.
Is something wrong?
262
00:12:41,302 --> 00:12:43,948
- We're investigating a murder.
- A murder?
263
00:12:43,972 --> 00:12:45,408
Are you a member
264
00:12:45,432 --> 00:12:46,784
of Domhnall Kovac's
Combat Academy?
265
00:12:46,808 --> 00:12:49,245
Uh, yes. Why?
266
00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:50,913
Did you attend his
midnight training session
267
00:12:50,937 --> 00:12:51,956
three nights ago?
268
00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:54,625
Um, I-I did.
269
00:12:54,649 --> 00:12:56,210
I did, yeah.
270
00:12:56,234 --> 00:12:58,129
Yeah, I'm trying to
get back into shape.
271
00:12:58,153 --> 00:12:59,880
My wife left me
last year, and I...
272
00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:02,550
You... you don't need to
know all that.
273
00:13:02,574 --> 00:13:05,136
You ride the subway
home after that?
274
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,971
Uh, no.
275
00:13:06,995 --> 00:13:08,514
- Really?
- Mm-mm.
276
00:13:08,538 --> 00:13:10,141
'Cause we noticed that your
apartment's a straight shot
277
00:13:10,165 --> 00:13:11,934
on the C train from Chelsea.
278
00:13:11,958 --> 00:13:14,145
Yeah, well, I-I-I ran home,
279
00:13:14,169 --> 00:13:16,814
trying to push myself, you know?
280
00:13:16,838 --> 00:13:18,316
How did you get that lip?
281
00:13:18,340 --> 00:13:20,359
Oh, uh, grappling training.
282
00:13:20,383 --> 00:13:21,777
Took an elbow to
the face.
283
00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:24,572
Would you be willing to
submit to a DNA swab,
284
00:13:24,596 --> 00:13:27,658
just to eliminate
you as a suspect?
285
00:13:27,682 --> 00:13:29,785
Uh...
286
00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:35,374
Look, it was an accident.
- What was an accident?
287
00:13:35,398 --> 00:13:37,460
That man was attacking
a woman on the subway.
288
00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:39,378
I-I was just trying
to protect her.
289
00:13:39,402 --> 00:13:42,506
I know I should have told
someone, but I panicked.
290
00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:45,593
Are you admitting to
killing Ellis Joyner?
291
00:13:48,078 --> 00:13:50,139
Look, I didn't mean to.
292
00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:51,807
- Okay.
- I-I was just trying to help.
293
00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:53,851
Hands behind your back.
294
00:13:53,875 --> 00:13:55,811
We're gonna walk out
of here nice and slow.
295
00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:57,295
Here we go.
296
00:13:59,089 --> 00:14:01,108
Detectives, what
is the holdup here?
297
00:14:01,132 --> 00:14:04,236
My client has explained to you
what happened several times.
298
00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:06,906
Yeah, we really appreciate
your cooperation, too.
299
00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:08,824
He has nothing to hide.
300
00:14:08,848 --> 00:14:12,036
Arnou, so that woman that you
say Ellis Joyner attacked,
301
00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:14,080
the one you claim
to have rescued,
302
00:14:14,104 --> 00:14:15,915
she was dressed
like a dancer, yeah?
303
00:14:15,939 --> 00:14:17,375
Yeah, she was wearing tights,
304
00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:21,253
and her hair was in
a, uh, ball, you know?
305
00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:23,089
Thing is, we checked
the surveillance footage
306
00:14:23,113 --> 00:14:24,465
from the train platforms,
307
00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:26,425
and we didn't find anybody
meeting that description.
308
00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:28,177
I'm telling you, she was there.
309
00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,846
Were the cameras working
at every station?
310
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:33,766
We also executed a search
warrant in your home.
311
00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:35,101
Didn't find anything.
312
00:14:35,125 --> 00:14:38,020
Yeah, well, of course
not. What would you find?
313
00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:40,147
Mm. Yeah, but, see, then
we got a search warrant
314
00:14:40,171 --> 00:14:41,607
for your gym locker.
315
00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:43,859
That's where we found
something really interesting.
316
00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:47,530
Ellis Joyner's cell
phone, but you knew that
317
00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:50,074
because you stole it from him
right after you killed him,
318
00:14:50,098 --> 00:14:51,242
and we know why.
319
00:14:51,266 --> 00:14:52,576
Because right after
you attacked him,
320
00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,370
he started recording
you, didn't he?
321
00:14:54,394 --> 00:14:56,330
And, see, what you don't
know about Black people is,
322
00:14:56,354 --> 00:14:58,624
we can never be too careful
'cause we don't know
323
00:14:58,648 --> 00:15:01,085
who's gonna try to paint
us out to be the bad guy.
324
00:15:01,109 --> 00:15:03,045
So we watched that video,
325
00:15:03,069 --> 00:15:05,006
and we listened to it, and
we did not see any woman.
326
00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:06,716
But what we did see is that...
327
00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:10,094
Don't say another word.
328
00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:11,637
This interview's over.
329
00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:18,019
What do you think?
330
00:15:18,043 --> 00:15:20,021
It's a tough call.
331
00:15:20,045 --> 00:15:21,439
He admits to killing Joyner,
332
00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:24,442
but I'm not sure we
have enough to charge.
333
00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:26,944
So we have two choices.
334
00:15:26,968 --> 00:15:30,323
We can either cut him
loose, or we can arrest him.
335
00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:37,788
Arrest him.
336
00:15:43,651 --> 00:15:45,463
Brandon Arnou's really captured
337
00:15:45,487 --> 00:15:47,590
the public's attention.
- Sure has.
338
00:15:47,614 --> 00:15:49,508
Half the city buys Arnou's story
339
00:15:49,532 --> 00:15:51,344
that he killed Joyner
in self-defense,
340
00:15:51,368 --> 00:15:54,096
and the other half
sees white man
341
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,806
killing an unarmed Black man.
342
00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:59,185
It's a litmus test
for what people think
343
00:15:59,209 --> 00:16:00,519
or what they want to believe.
344
00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:02,647
Well, here's what I believe.
345
00:16:02,671 --> 00:16:05,274
Arnou held Joyner
in a choke hold
346
00:16:05,298 --> 00:16:07,652
for a long time after
he was unconscious.
347
00:16:07,676 --> 00:16:09,820
Even if he was acting
in self-defense
348
00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:11,155
at the start of all this,
349
00:16:11,179 --> 00:16:12,907
it eventually turned
into a homicide.
350
00:16:12,931 --> 00:16:14,325
And we have video
that supports that?
351
00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:15,618
Uh, sort of.
352
00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:17,286
Seconds after Joyner
pulled out his phone
353
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:18,329
to record the incident,
354
00:16:18,353 --> 00:16:20,414
Arnou knocked it
out of his hands.
355
00:16:20,438 --> 00:16:23,167
Then the phone landed
on the ground lens down.
356
00:16:23,191 --> 00:16:24,377
Visually, it's just black.
357
00:16:24,401 --> 00:16:26,420
But it kept recording,
so there's audio.
358
00:16:26,444 --> 00:16:29,215
You can hear Arnou get
Joyner into the choke hold.
359
00:16:29,239 --> 00:16:31,509
Joyner repeatedly
says he can't breathe.
360
00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:33,719
And after that, the
tape goes silent.
361
00:16:33,743 --> 00:16:35,846
- Because Joyner passed out.
- That's what it seems like.
362
00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:36,931
After he goes quiet,
363
00:16:36,955 --> 00:16:39,183
there's three minutes
of total silence
364
00:16:39,207 --> 00:16:40,393
before Arnou gets off him.
365
00:16:40,417 --> 00:16:41,936
You're saying that
he kept Joyner
366
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,646
in a choke hold for
three full minutes
367
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:45,231
after he seemed to
have passed out?
368
00:16:45,255 --> 00:16:46,816
Mm-hmm, and Arnou
picks up the phone,
369
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,776
realizes it's been
recording, and then stops it.
370
00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,779
But the phone must've locked.
- Which is why Arnou took it.
371
00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:53,489
He realized it would
upload to the cloud,
372
00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:54,615
so he wanted to delete it.
373
00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:56,659
Search history on Arnou's laptop
374
00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:58,744
shows that he was
trying to figure out
375
00:16:58,768 --> 00:17:00,454
how to access a phone
without a passcode.
376
00:17:00,478 --> 00:17:02,456
Obviously knew the
video was damning.
377
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,542
So what's the next move?
What are you thinking?
378
00:17:04,566 --> 00:17:07,670
We have a solid case
for manslaughter.
379
00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:09,422
Whether you believe
Arnou's account or not,
380
00:17:09,446 --> 00:17:12,049
there... there's no question
he used excessive force.
381
00:17:12,073 --> 00:17:13,300
Manslaughter?
382
00:17:13,324 --> 00:17:15,011
You just told me
he choked him out
383
00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:17,054
for three minutes after he
was already unconscious.
384
00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:20,683
Correct, but Arnou claims he
was trying to help someone.
385
00:17:20,707 --> 00:17:22,393
He was trying to
protect a young woman.
386
00:17:22,417 --> 00:17:25,354
That woman we haven't
been able to identify.
387
00:17:25,378 --> 00:17:27,398
This isn't manslaughter, Nolan.
388
00:17:27,422 --> 00:17:29,608
This is depraved
indifference to human life.
389
00:17:29,632 --> 00:17:31,068
You want to charge
him with murder?
390
00:17:31,092 --> 00:17:33,946
Absolutely. We need
to make a statement.
391
00:17:33,970 --> 00:17:35,781
The facts are tricky.
392
00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:37,908
Arnou claims he was trying
to save a woman's life,
393
00:17:37,932 --> 00:17:40,328
not to mention he has
no history of violence.
394
00:17:40,352 --> 00:17:41,579
I understand.
395
00:17:41,603 --> 00:17:45,166
But this is George
Floyd all over again.
396
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,084
And I'm sure as hell
not gonna end up
397
00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:48,419
on the wrong side of it.
398
00:17:48,443 --> 00:17:50,236
Charge him with murder two.
399
00:18:03,708 --> 00:18:07,021
I can't breathe.
400
00:18:07,045 --> 00:18:09,464
I can't breathe.
401
00:18:25,355 --> 00:18:26,815
Oh, my God.
402
00:18:30,694 --> 00:18:34,090
Dr. Infante, could you
explain what we just heard?
403
00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:36,175
Once the air supply
has been cut off,
404
00:18:36,199 --> 00:18:39,303
it takes about five minutes
for brain death to occur
405
00:18:39,327 --> 00:18:41,222
half that time for an asthmatic.
406
00:18:41,246 --> 00:18:44,350
The body goes through
severe seizure-like activity
407
00:18:44,374 --> 00:18:46,060
with convulsions.
408
00:18:46,084 --> 00:18:49,021
And once enough pressure was
applied to the carotid artery,
409
00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:51,148
the victim would have
lost consciousness.
410
00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:53,401
Which accounts for
the last three minutes
411
00:18:53,425 --> 00:18:54,819
when there were no
sounds of a struggle?
412
00:18:54,843 --> 00:18:55,945
Yes.
413
00:18:55,969 --> 00:18:58,239
Meaning after those
first few minutes,
414
00:18:58,263 --> 00:18:59,740
Ellis Joyner no longer posed
415
00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:01,492
a lethal threat
to the defendant?
416
00:19:01,516 --> 00:19:03,536
In my professional opinion, no.
417
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,206
And... and yet, for
three full minutes,
418
00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:11,127
the defendant just
continued to choke him.
419
00:19:11,151 --> 00:19:15,047
Thank you, Doctor.
No further questions.
420
00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:20,094
Dr. Infante, isn't it true
421
00:19:20,118 --> 00:19:22,388
that the surge of
adrenaline caused
422
00:19:22,412 --> 00:19:24,890
by a life-or-death confrontation
423
00:19:24,914 --> 00:19:27,935
can distort not only
one's sense of time
424
00:19:27,959 --> 00:19:31,314
but also an awareness
of one's surroundings?
425
00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:33,691
It's possible.
426
00:19:33,715 --> 00:19:36,110
Would you characterize such
a response as reasonable?
427
00:19:36,134 --> 00:19:39,322
I would say it's not uncommon.
428
00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:43,159
So you're saying it is both
possible and reasonable
429
00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:46,954
that in the confusion
and panic of the moment,
430
00:19:46,978 --> 00:19:49,707
Brandon Arnou did not realize
431
00:19:49,731 --> 00:19:52,793
that the man he believed
was trying to kill him
432
00:19:52,817 --> 00:19:55,254
had lost consciousness?
433
00:19:55,278 --> 00:19:56,547
Yes.
434
00:19:56,571 --> 00:19:59,699
Thank you. Nothing further.
435
00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:05,181
How long had you
and Ellis Joyner
436
00:20:05,205 --> 00:20:07,224
been seeing each other?
437
00:20:07,248 --> 00:20:08,976
About six months.
438
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,521
It wasn't a storybook
romance, but
439
00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,523
it was the best six
months of my life.
440
00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:16,984
You were on the train that
night with Ellis, correct?
441
00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:20,529
Yes, I got off at 50th
Street to go home.
442
00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:22,490
Did you interact with
the defendant at all
443
00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:23,866
while you were on the train?
444
00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:27,495
Yes, I caught him staring
at us a couple of times.
445
00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:29,413
It was weird.
446
00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:32,333
And when I got up to get off, he
447
00:20:32,357 --> 00:20:33,542
stepped in my way.
448
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,169
Intentionally?
449
00:20:35,193 --> 00:20:37,505
Yeah, aggressively.
450
00:20:37,529 --> 00:20:40,341
When I accidentally
bumped into him,
451
00:20:40,365 --> 00:20:43,844
he said, "Watch
yourself," with this tone.
452
00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:46,597
- What kind of tone?
- A racist tone.
453
00:20:46,621 --> 00:20:49,600
Like, he might as well have
said, "Watch yourself, boy."
454
00:20:49,624 --> 00:20:52,103
Objection, Your Honor,
calls for speculation.
455
00:20:52,127 --> 00:20:55,064
The witness can't testify to
things my client didn't say.
456
00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:56,232
Sustained.
457
00:20:56,256 --> 00:20:58,359
The jury will disregard.
458
00:20:58,383 --> 00:21:00,135
No further questions.
459
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:06,867
You claim that
Mr. Arnou was aggressive
460
00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:08,953
towards you, confrontational.
461
00:21:08,977 --> 00:21:10,454
He was.
462
00:21:10,478 --> 00:21:15,126
But Mr. Arnou has no history
of violent behavior, none.
463
00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:16,460
So?
464
00:21:16,484 --> 00:21:19,213
But you do, right?
465
00:21:19,237 --> 00:21:21,549
You were charged with
aggravated assault.
466
00:21:21,573 --> 00:21:23,342
Yeah, but that has nothing to do
467
00:21:23,366 --> 00:21:25,052
with what happened that night.
468
00:21:25,076 --> 00:21:27,930
He was the aggressor.
- I see.
469
00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:32,226
And to be clear, you were not
a witness to the altercation
470
00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,563
between Ellis Joyner
and Mr. Arnou?
471
00:21:35,587 --> 00:21:37,606
- Correct.
- So you have no idea
472
00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,734
if Joyner attacked
that woman or not,
473
00:21:39,758 --> 00:21:42,570
and you have no idea
if Mr. Arnou was,
474
00:21:42,594 --> 00:21:45,114
in fact, trying to help her.
475
00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:49,410
I wasn't there, but I know
he didn't attack that woman.
476
00:21:49,434 --> 00:21:53,146
But you weren't there.
477
00:21:54,481 --> 00:21:56,375
No further questions.
478
00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:58,919
The witness may step down.
479
00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:00,921
Call your next
witness, Mr. Price.
480
00:22:00,945 --> 00:22:02,715
The prosecution rests.
481
00:22:02,739 --> 00:22:05,092
Mr. Kagan, you're up.
482
00:22:05,116 --> 00:22:09,013
The defense calls Rebecca Lasky.
483
00:22:09,037 --> 00:22:10,931
Objection, Your Honor,
unfair surprise.
484
00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:12,433
This is the first we are hearing
485
00:22:12,457 --> 00:22:13,934
of any witness by that name.
486
00:22:13,958 --> 00:22:16,687
That's because this witness
only just came forward.
487
00:22:21,383 --> 00:22:26,739
Ms. Lasky, were you
on the C subway train
488
00:22:26,763 --> 00:22:30,284
the night Ellis
Joyner was killed?
489
00:22:30,308 --> 00:22:32,620
Yes, I was there.
490
00:22:32,644 --> 00:22:35,581
Did you witness the altercation?
491
00:22:35,605 --> 00:22:37,958
Yes, I did.
492
00:22:37,982 --> 00:22:40,235
Can you tell us what happened?
493
00:22:42,112 --> 00:22:44,757
I entered the subway car
494
00:22:44,781 --> 00:22:48,302
and accidentally
bumped into Mr. Joyner,
495
00:22:48,326 --> 00:22:49,845
and
496
00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:53,265
he appeared to be mentally
disturbed in some way.
497
00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:57,812
He kept making these
aggressive grunting noises.
498
00:22:57,836 --> 00:22:59,981
And then he lunged at me.
499
00:23:00,005 --> 00:23:02,108
And then what happened?
500
00:23:02,132 --> 00:23:06,320
He reached into his pocket.
501
00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:10,908
I was scared he had a knife
or something, so I screamed.
502
00:23:10,932 --> 00:23:14,495
I screamed for help,
503
00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:16,789
and that man saved me.
504
00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:19,667
My client, Mr. Arnou?
505
00:23:19,691 --> 00:23:22,545
Yes, he grabbed Mr. Joyner,
506
00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:26,465
and he pulled him away from me.
507
00:23:26,489 --> 00:23:30,761
And then Joyner attacked him,
and they started fighting.
508
00:23:30,785 --> 00:23:32,972
I was terrified.
509
00:23:32,996 --> 00:23:35,498
If he hadn't been there...
510
00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:39,312
That man is a hero.
511
00:23:54,684 --> 00:23:55,684
Yep.
512
00:23:56,561 --> 00:23:59,457
Turns out there really
was a female witness.
513
00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:02,126
- So I've heard.
- She was credible, too.
514
00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:04,545
Her testimony was compelling.
515
00:24:04,569 --> 00:24:06,297
Meaning what?
516
00:24:06,321 --> 00:24:08,090
We should offer a
manslaughter plea.
517
00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,051
I'd be surprised
if they accepted it,
518
00:24:10,075 --> 00:24:11,427
but it's worth a shot.
519
00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:14,263
But the audio-video clip
hasn't changed, correct?
520
00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:16,140
- Excuse me?
- The clip where we hear
521
00:24:16,164 --> 00:24:18,517
Mr. Joyner begging for his life,
522
00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:21,854
where we hear
Mr. Arnou choking out
523
00:24:21,878 --> 00:24:24,482
an unconscious man for
a full three minutes.
524
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,984
That is correct. That
clip still exists.
525
00:24:27,008 --> 00:24:29,153
But there is now
more context for it
526
00:24:29,177 --> 00:24:31,072
context that is
not in our favor.
527
00:24:31,096 --> 00:24:33,324
But just because a
white woman saw Joyner
528
00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:35,660
as a threat doesn't
make it true.
529
00:24:35,684 --> 00:24:38,537
Like I said, her
testimony was credible.
530
00:24:38,561 --> 00:24:41,332
The jury seemed to
respond quite favorably.
531
00:24:41,356 --> 00:24:43,000
But the witness
wasn't actually there
532
00:24:43,024 --> 00:24:44,210
when the murder took place.
533
00:24:44,234 --> 00:24:46,379
She left before the
fight ended, right?
534
00:24:46,403 --> 00:24:48,339
That's why she didn't
show up in the video.
535
00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:51,658
- Mm-hmm.
- So make that clear, Nolan.
536
00:24:53,702 --> 00:24:56,389
Remind them that Ms.
Lasky wasn't present
537
00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:59,499
when the defendant choked
the life out of Mr. Joyner.
538
00:25:05,088 --> 00:25:09,402
{\an8}Ms. Lasky, you weren't
actually present
539
00:25:09,426 --> 00:25:13,447
{\an8}when the defendant strangled
Ellis Joyner to death, correct?
540
00:25:13,471 --> 00:25:16,617
No, the train stopped while
they were still fighting,
541
00:25:16,641 --> 00:25:19,245
and I got off.
542
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:21,497
But I saw the
start of the fight.
543
00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:24,750
I saw Mr. Arnou grab
Joyner by the arm
544
00:25:24,774 --> 00:25:27,128
and pull him away from me.
545
00:25:27,152 --> 00:25:31,048
And then I saw Joyner
elbow him in the face.
546
00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:34,802
Right, because
Mr. Joyner was terrified.
547
00:25:34,826 --> 00:25:37,847
From his perspective, he was
the one fighting for his life.
548
00:25:37,871 --> 00:25:40,349
I don't know.
549
00:25:40,373 --> 00:25:43,519
It all happened really fast.
550
00:25:43,543 --> 00:25:46,605
And they were yelling
at each other.
551
00:25:46,629 --> 00:25:50,901
And Mr. Arnou kept yelling
at him to stop, to surrender,
552
00:25:50,925 --> 00:25:52,653
and that he was bleeding,
553
00:25:52,677 --> 00:25:55,489
and he was dirty,
554
00:25:55,513 --> 00:25:58,951
or fighting dirty.
555
00:25:58,975 --> 00:26:02,872
I don't really remember
the exact words.
556
00:26:02,896 --> 00:26:04,707
But Joyner didn't listen.
557
00:26:04,731 --> 00:26:07,626
He reached into his pocket.
558
00:26:07,650 --> 00:26:10,796
It looked like he was
trying to grab a knife.
559
00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:12,798
So Mr. Arnou tackled him,
560
00:26:12,822 --> 00:26:15,760
and they started wrestling.
561
00:26:15,784 --> 00:26:18,554
That's when the train
stopped, and I got off.
562
00:26:18,578 --> 00:26:20,306
Just got off?
563
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:22,725
You didn't tell anyone
what was happening?
564
00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:24,435
I wasn't thinking straight.
565
00:26:24,459 --> 00:26:27,146
Everything was
happening at once.
566
00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:30,191
When the doors
opened, I ran out to look
567
00:26:30,215 --> 00:26:33,027
for someone to tell,
like a cop or something.
568
00:26:33,051 --> 00:26:35,780
But the subway
station was empty.
569
00:26:35,804 --> 00:26:38,074
Then the doors closed,
and the train took off.
570
00:26:38,098 --> 00:26:42,495
So that means you weren't
there during the three minutes
571
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,413
that Ellis Joyner
was unconscious
572
00:26:44,437 --> 00:26:45,956
and the defendant continued
573
00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:48,459
to choke the life
out of his body?
574
00:26:48,483 --> 00:26:52,421
No, but, like I said, I
thought he had a knife.
575
00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:54,465
I'm sure Mr. Arnou did, too.
576
00:26:54,489 --> 00:26:57,968
Did you actually see a knife?
577
00:26:57,992 --> 00:26:59,136
No, but...
578
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,539
Did you see a
weapon of any kind?
579
00:27:04,374 --> 00:27:07,019
- No.
- And you had no idea
580
00:27:07,043 --> 00:27:11,107
that Ellis Joyner was
severely asthmatic?
581
00:27:11,131 --> 00:27:12,608
I didn't at the time.
582
00:27:12,632 --> 00:27:15,319
Mr. Joyner had been
in an altercation
583
00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:16,904
with a fellow comic that night,
584
00:27:16,928 --> 00:27:20,658
then a fraught, verbal
argument with his boyfriend.
585
00:27:20,682 --> 00:27:24,745
High-stress situations can
trigger an asthma attack.
586
00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:28,499
Ellis Joyner was having
an asthma attack.
587
00:27:28,523 --> 00:27:32,503
He wasn't acting aggressively,
nor was he mentally ill.
588
00:27:32,527 --> 00:27:35,506
He was simply having
an asthma attack,
589
00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,509
and you misinterpreted
his behavior.
590
00:27:38,533 --> 00:27:42,304
You saw a scary Black
man making a noise...
591
00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:44,015
- Objection.
- Sustained.
592
00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:54,859
Mr. Joyner's behavior
that night was consistent
593
00:27:54,883 --> 00:27:58,428
with someone suffering from
an asthma attack, correct?
594
00:28:00,055 --> 00:28:04,160
Yes, I suppose.
595
00:28:04,184 --> 00:28:08,956
And if that's what it was...
596
00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,625
I feel terrible.
597
00:28:11,649 --> 00:28:13,336
Then
598
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,882
this whole thing i-is
599
00:28:17,906 --> 00:28:21,635
it's all my fault.
600
00:28:21,659 --> 00:28:23,346
But either way,
601
00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:26,140
Mr. Arnou came to my defense.
602
00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:31,979
He tried to help me,
603
00:28:32,003 --> 00:28:34,231
and he shouldn't be
held responsible.
604
00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:44,533
She made a strong case that
Arnou is not the one to blame.
605
00:28:44,557 --> 00:28:45,868
Yeah.
606
00:28:45,892 --> 00:28:48,079
What do you think about
what Lasky said in there,
607
00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:50,206
that, uh, bit about
Arnou saying something
608
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:51,624
about blood and dirt?
609
00:28:51,648 --> 00:28:53,876
Oh, I-I don't know what
to make of it. Why?
610
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:55,920
Do you think it's possible
he was saying something
611
00:28:55,944 --> 00:28:58,756
about "blood and soil"?
612
00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:01,509
- That's a Nazi slogan.
- Exactly.
613
00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:04,178
It's the new battle cry of
white nationalist groups.
614
00:29:04,202 --> 00:29:06,514
You think Arnou is
a white supremacist?
615
00:29:06,538 --> 00:29:07,807
Yeah, I-I don't know.
616
00:29:07,831 --> 00:29:09,684
I'm... I'm just
trying to understand
617
00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:11,602
why he was saying
"blood and dirt."
618
00:29:11,626 --> 00:29:14,355
We interviewed his
neighbors, his coworkers.
619
00:29:14,379 --> 00:29:16,148
None of them reported
anything that would suggest...
620
00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:20,695
What about where he trains,
the, uh, Kovac Academy?
621
00:29:20,719 --> 00:29:21,696
What about it?
622
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,531
Detectives
interviewed the owner.
623
00:29:23,555 --> 00:29:26,266
He has ties to a few white
nationalist organizations.
624
00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:29,561
Check it out.
625
00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:35,793
I already told you. I
don't know Arnou too well.
626
00:29:35,817 --> 00:29:38,921
I just have a few questions.
It won't take long, promise.
627
00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:42,174
Fine, what
do you want to know?
628
00:29:42,198 --> 00:29:44,135
Have you ever heard
him say something
629
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,638
that might be
interpreted as racist?
630
00:29:47,662 --> 00:29:49,849
I'm sorry, but I can't help you.
631
00:29:49,873 --> 00:29:53,251
You can't, or you don't want to?
632
00:29:55,211 --> 00:29:58,524
I'm closing up, so...
633
00:29:58,548 --> 00:30:02,153
You're aware that Arnou
is on trial for murder?
634
00:30:02,177 --> 00:30:03,988
I am.
635
00:30:14,147 --> 00:30:16,000
Hold up.
636
00:30:22,238 --> 00:30:25,718
Look, I can't get
into the details, but
637
00:30:25,742 --> 00:30:30,139
let's just say you're
heading down the right path.
638
00:30:30,163 --> 00:30:33,809
"Right path"? What the hell
is that supposed to mean?
639
00:30:33,833 --> 00:30:36,103
Like I said, I can't help you.
640
00:30:36,127 --> 00:30:37,688
Why not?
641
00:30:37,712 --> 00:30:40,149
Because it would blow my cover.
642
00:30:42,801 --> 00:30:44,177
You're a cop?
643
00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:55,562
Nick, good to see you.
644
00:30:56,439 --> 00:30:57,792
How you doing, Robin?
645
00:30:57,816 --> 00:30:59,585
- Thanks for coming down.
- Of course.
646
00:30:59,609 --> 00:31:01,796
Um, this is Carol Oberlin.
647
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:05,466
She's our Deputy Commissioner
of Counterterrorism.
648
00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:06,967
- Glad to meet you.
- Likewise.
649
00:31:06,991 --> 00:31:10,096
I understand you stumbled on
to our undercover operation.
650
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,889
We did.
651
00:31:11,913 --> 00:31:14,433
And, fortunately, a detective
of yours has information
652
00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:17,103
pertinent to a murder
we're prosecuting.
653
00:31:17,127 --> 00:31:18,604
Uh, that's great.
654
00:31:18,628 --> 00:31:21,023
But, uh, let us
get you up to speed
655
00:31:21,047 --> 00:31:23,150
on what it is we're
actually investigating,
656
00:31:23,174 --> 00:31:24,485
give you a sense
657
00:31:24,509 --> 00:31:26,404
of the scope of what
we're dealing with here.
658
00:31:26,428 --> 00:31:28,013
Please.
- Okay.
659
00:31:29,764 --> 00:31:33,411
We've actually had our eye
on Kovac for a while now.
660
00:31:33,435 --> 00:31:35,788
His gym is an "active club,"
661
00:31:35,812 --> 00:31:37,581
part of an international network
662
00:31:37,605 --> 00:31:39,750
of white supremacist
sleeper cells,
663
00:31:39,774 --> 00:31:42,712
all fronting as
small MMA-style gyms.
664
00:31:42,736 --> 00:31:44,588
How big a network
are we talking about?
665
00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:47,258
So far, we've identified
over 30 active clubs
666
00:31:47,282 --> 00:31:48,884
across 9 different states
667
00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:50,928
and several provinces of Canada.
668
00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:52,179
So how do they work?
669
00:31:52,203 --> 00:31:54,223
The clubs operate as
recruitment centers.
670
00:31:54,247 --> 00:31:57,351
They lure in young white men
under the guise of getting fit,
671
00:31:57,375 --> 00:32:01,022
while indoctrinating
them in racist ideology
672
00:32:01,046 --> 00:32:03,524
and training them
in military combat.
673
00:32:03,548 --> 00:32:05,693
- They're building an army.
- They're trying to.
674
00:32:05,717 --> 00:32:07,695
It's the new face of hate.
675
00:32:07,719 --> 00:32:10,448
No more white sheets
or burning crosses.
676
00:32:10,472 --> 00:32:12,533
They've adapted and
created a façade
677
00:32:12,557 --> 00:32:15,036
to mask their racist beliefs.
678
00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:17,163
But we need your
undercover's testimony
679
00:32:17,187 --> 00:32:21,042
to secure a conviction
against one of their members.
680
00:32:21,066 --> 00:32:24,337
Detective Fields has
spent nine months
681
00:32:24,361 --> 00:32:26,839
embedding himself
in this community.
682
00:32:26,863 --> 00:32:28,883
All that goes out the
window if he testifies.
683
00:32:28,907 --> 00:32:32,094
I get that, but we're
talking about murder here.
684
00:32:32,118 --> 00:32:34,764
We're not trying to step
on your toes here, Nick,
685
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:36,932
but we poured a lot of resources
686
00:32:36,956 --> 00:32:38,726
and manpower into
this operation.
687
00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:40,561
The stakes are pretty high.
688
00:32:40,585 --> 00:32:43,356
We've recently
received credible intel
689
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,441
that Kovac is now
stockpiling firearms
690
00:32:45,465 --> 00:32:48,486
and explosive materials.
691
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,446
These men are terrorists.
692
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:53,765
They're capable of
significant violence.
693
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,620
Are you asking me for a favor?
694
00:32:57,644 --> 00:33:00,122
I'm suggesting you
take a big-picture view
695
00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:01,499
of the situation.
696
00:33:06,736 --> 00:33:08,589
We'd greatly appreciate it.
697
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,139
- They're planning an attack?
- Against who?
698
00:33:17,163 --> 00:33:19,266
It appears to be some
sort of coordinated effort
699
00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:22,395
along the lines of the
January 6th insurrection,
700
00:33:22,419 --> 00:33:26,148
only more violent and without
advanced warning this time.
701
00:33:26,172 --> 00:33:28,985
This only underscores
how dangerous Arnou is.
702
00:33:29,009 --> 00:33:31,570
Uh, the jury needs to know
he's part of this organization.
703
00:33:31,594 --> 00:33:32,905
But exposing the undercover
704
00:33:32,929 --> 00:33:35,116
would blow up the
whole investigation.
705
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:37,660
He's the only asset
they have on the inside.
706
00:33:37,684 --> 00:33:39,912
But Ellis Joyner was murdered
707
00:33:39,936 --> 00:33:43,082
most likely because
he was Black.
708
00:33:43,106 --> 00:33:45,793
He deserves justice.
- I couldn't agree more.
709
00:33:45,817 --> 00:33:48,254
All I'm saying is, we
can't call the undercover
710
00:33:48,278 --> 00:33:50,030
as a witness.
711
00:33:51,489 --> 00:33:52,925
It's for the greater good.
712
00:33:52,949 --> 00:33:56,262
Oh, the greater good, right.
713
00:33:56,286 --> 00:33:58,931
Thank God for that phrase.
714
00:33:58,955 --> 00:34:01,058
Excuse me?
715
00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:02,101
Helps justify a lot
716
00:34:02,125 --> 00:34:06,480
of otherwise
unjustifiable positions.
717
00:34:06,504 --> 00:34:08,983
You're a terrific
prosecutor, Nolan.
718
00:34:09,007 --> 00:34:10,985
You're just gonna have
to find another way
719
00:34:11,009 --> 00:34:13,887
to make clear to the jury
that Arnou is racist.
720
00:34:20,143 --> 00:34:21,829
{\an8}Mr. Kovac,
721
00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:25,416
{\an8}you were Brandon Arnou's
personal trainer, correct?
722
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,168
Yes.
723
00:34:27,192 --> 00:34:28,919
You two spend a lot
of time together?
724
00:34:28,943 --> 00:34:31,005
About five hours a week.
725
00:34:31,029 --> 00:34:33,090
Would you say you were friendly?
726
00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:35,468
Not really. We
worked out together.
727
00:34:35,492 --> 00:34:38,095
- Five hours a week?
- Yes.
728
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:41,974
You and the defendant ever
discuss racial ideology?
729
00:34:41,998 --> 00:34:43,976
I don't know what that means.
730
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,729
Did you ever discuss
racial purity,
731
00:34:46,753 --> 00:34:48,522
uh, interracial marriage,
732
00:34:48,546 --> 00:34:50,483
the role that
Black people should
733
00:34:50,507 --> 00:34:53,194
or shouldn't play in society?
734
00:34:53,218 --> 00:34:54,987
I don't know what
you're talking about.
735
00:34:55,011 --> 00:34:56,864
Permission to treat the
witness as hostile, Your Honor?
736
00:34:56,888 --> 00:34:58,682
Permission granted.
737
00:35:00,475 --> 00:35:03,371
You have a tattoo on
your arm, the number 88.
738
00:35:03,395 --> 00:35:05,831
It's a neo-Nazi
symbol, isn't it?
739
00:35:05,855 --> 00:35:08,417
I don't know. I just
like the number 88.
740
00:35:08,441 --> 00:35:10,961
So you don't have a
problem with Black people?
741
00:35:10,985 --> 00:35:12,922
- No.
- Even though you have
742
00:35:12,946 --> 00:35:15,966
four prior battery convictions,
743
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:18,302
all for assaulting Black men,
744
00:35:18,326 --> 00:35:22,223
two that were charged
as hate crimes, correct?
745
00:35:22,247 --> 00:35:23,557
It was a long time ago.
746
00:35:23,581 --> 00:35:25,851
Even though your bio
747
00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,062
in your various
social-media accounts
748
00:35:28,086 --> 00:35:30,690
contains the phrase
"blood and soil"?
749
00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:31,899
Objection, relevance.
750
00:35:31,923 --> 00:35:33,901
Rebecca Lasky
testified she overheard
751
00:35:33,925 --> 00:35:37,071
the defendant utter something
about blood and dirt.
752
00:35:37,095 --> 00:35:39,031
She was likely referring
to the defendant's use
753
00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:41,575
of the phrase "blood and
soil," a racial dog whist...
754
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:45,413
Objection, Ms. Lasky never
mentioned the word "soil."
755
00:35:45,437 --> 00:35:47,289
Her recollection was vague.
756
00:35:47,313 --> 00:35:49,709
We have a right to
raise the possibility.
757
00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:51,919
I agree. Overruled.
758
00:35:51,943 --> 00:35:54,130
You may proceed, Mr. Price.
759
00:35:54,154 --> 00:35:56,382
Isn't it true that
"blood and soil"
760
00:35:56,406 --> 00:35:57,883
is a Nazi reference
761
00:35:57,907 --> 00:36:01,595
to a racially uniform society?
762
00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:03,389
It means you're
proud of who you are
763
00:36:03,413 --> 00:36:04,640
and where you come from.
764
00:36:04,664 --> 00:36:09,103
And for you, that
means being white.
765
00:36:11,087 --> 00:36:12,106
Yes.
766
00:36:16,343 --> 00:36:18,821
You taught the defendant
how to fight, correct?
767
00:36:18,845 --> 00:36:20,573
- Yes.
- Teach him how to put someone
768
00:36:20,597 --> 00:36:22,825
in a choke hold?
- Yes.
769
00:36:22,849 --> 00:36:25,536
Did you teach the defendant
to hate Black people?
770
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,787
Objection!
771
00:36:26,811 --> 00:36:28,706
Withdrawn.
772
00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:30,690
Nothing further.
773
00:36:33,193 --> 00:36:37,298
Mr. Kovac, did you ever
discuss race with Mr. Arnou?
774
00:36:37,322 --> 00:36:38,382
No.
775
00:36:38,406 --> 00:36:40,468
Have you ever
heard Mr. Arnou say
776
00:36:40,492 --> 00:36:42,428
"blood and soil"?
- No.
777
00:36:42,452 --> 00:36:46,682
Ellis Joyner was 6'2"
and weighed 210 pounds,
778
00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:49,894
50 pounds more than Mr. Arnou.
779
00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:53,230
As a self-defense expert, do
you think it was reasonable
780
00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:54,774
for Mr. Arnou
781
00:36:54,798 --> 00:36:58,444
to believe Joyner
posed a lethal threat?
782
00:36:58,468 --> 00:36:59,695
Absolutely.
783
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,281
Thank you.
784
00:37:02,305 --> 00:37:03,824
No further questions.
785
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:12,291
Brandon Arnou is an
elementary-school teacher,
786
00:37:12,315 --> 00:37:16,128
who's never gotten so
much as a speeding ticket.
787
00:37:16,152 --> 00:37:18,339
He did not wake up that morning
788
00:37:18,363 --> 00:37:21,467
thinking about taking
another person's life.
789
00:37:21,491 --> 00:37:25,805
He did not get on that
train looking for a fight.
790
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:30,476
But when he saw a fellow
citizen being attacked,
791
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,479
he stepped up.
792
00:37:33,503 --> 00:37:35,422
He did something.
793
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:39,527
I live in Park Slope.
794
00:37:39,551 --> 00:37:42,989
I take the subway every
day to this courthouse,
795
00:37:43,013 --> 00:37:47,493
and I take it home every night.
796
00:37:47,517 --> 00:37:50,079
And I pray
797
00:37:50,103 --> 00:37:54,041
that if something
were ever to happen,
798
00:37:54,065 --> 00:37:58,337
someone like Brandon Arnou
799
00:37:58,361 --> 00:38:00,947
is on that train with me.
800
00:38:05,452 --> 00:38:08,055
Rebecca Lasky
heard the defendant
801
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:11,600
screaming something
about blood and dirt.
802
00:38:11,624 --> 00:38:13,519
Most likely
803
00:38:13,543 --> 00:38:16,564
what he was screaming
was "blood and soil,"
804
00:38:16,588 --> 00:38:20,526
as a phrase that speaks
to a declaration of hatred
805
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:23,946
for all people of color.
806
00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:26,949
Ask yourself why.
807
00:38:26,973 --> 00:38:30,870
People like Mr. Arnou keep
their bigotry buttoned up.
808
00:38:30,894 --> 00:38:33,372
They only discuss it
809
00:38:33,396 --> 00:38:36,625
with people they know share
their hateful worldview.
810
00:38:36,649 --> 00:38:39,920
They rely on
plausible deniability,
811
00:38:39,944 --> 00:38:42,798
because if the
racism isn't overt,
812
00:38:42,822 --> 00:38:45,801
many people,
813
00:38:45,825 --> 00:38:49,013
many good people
are all too happy
814
00:38:49,037 --> 00:38:51,057
to assume it isn't there.
815
00:38:51,081 --> 00:38:55,186
Except that, every
once in a while,
816
00:38:55,210 --> 00:39:00,024
in moments of panic
or... or anger
817
00:39:00,048 --> 00:39:01,901
their mask will slip,
818
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:05,488
and their true
nature is exposed.
819
00:39:07,514 --> 00:39:12,078
Ellis Joyner was an
innocent, unarmed Black man,
820
00:39:12,102 --> 00:39:14,080
suffering a medical emergency.
821
00:39:14,104 --> 00:39:16,374
And the two white people
on that train with him
822
00:39:16,398 --> 00:39:20,878
assumed he was a violent threat,
823
00:39:20,902 --> 00:39:24,423
and they attacked him.
824
00:39:24,447 --> 00:39:27,093
The defendant may not
have entered the fight
825
00:39:27,117 --> 00:39:28,386
with the intention to kill,
826
00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:31,389
but at some point,
his focus shifted,
827
00:39:31,413 --> 00:39:33,724
and his racial hate
began to manifest.
828
00:39:33,748 --> 00:39:35,309
That moment
829
00:39:35,333 --> 00:39:38,980
was when the victim,
Ellis Joyner, passed out,
830
00:39:39,004 --> 00:39:41,232
when he was no longer
a threat to Mr. Arnou.
831
00:39:41,256 --> 00:39:43,776
And rather than
release Mr. Joyner,
832
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,903
Arnou continued to choke him
833
00:39:45,927 --> 00:39:49,115
for three minutes.
834
00:39:49,139 --> 00:39:53,452
That is when his
true colors emerged.
835
00:39:53,476 --> 00:39:55,788
That
836
00:39:55,812 --> 00:39:59,875
is when he murdered
Ellis Joyner.
837
00:40:10,076 --> 00:40:12,888
{\an8}Mr. Foreperson, has the
jury reached a verdict?
838
00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:14,581
{\an8}We have, Your Honor.
839
00:40:16,499 --> 00:40:19,145
In the charge of murder
in the second degree,
840
00:40:19,169 --> 00:40:21,814
we find the defendant,
Brandon Arnou,
841
00:40:21,838 --> 00:40:23,149
not guilty.
842
00:40:23,173 --> 00:40:24,900
What the...
843
00:40:24,924 --> 00:40:26,652
Yeah, baby.
844
00:40:26,676 --> 00:40:29,947
Members of the jury, we
thank you for your service.
845
00:40:43,568 --> 00:40:47,798
Tough case, but you
did a hell of a job.
846
00:40:47,822 --> 00:40:49,884
Thanks.
847
00:40:49,908 --> 00:40:52,345
It might have gone
differently if I
848
00:40:52,369 --> 00:40:55,723
if I didn't have one
hand tied behind my back.
849
00:40:55,747 --> 00:40:57,767
We did the best that we could.
850
00:40:57,791 --> 00:41:00,019
No, we could have done better.
851
00:41:00,043 --> 00:41:04,148
We just chose not to,
for the greater good.
852
00:41:04,172 --> 00:41:06,817
I stand by my decision.
853
00:41:06,841 --> 00:41:08,861
Hey! There he is.
854
00:41:08,885 --> 00:41:11,030
And one day soon,
855
00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:13,532
when we take these bastards down
856
00:41:13,556 --> 00:41:16,786
and roll up their whole
damn racist organization,
857
00:41:16,810 --> 00:41:20,373
you're gonna realize it was
the right decision as well.
858
00:41:27,070 --> 00:41:29,715
Ellis Joyner deserved better.
859
00:41:33,618 --> 00:41:36,138
- All right, man.
- All right, man, come on.
64499
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