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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,290 --> 00:00:06,500 - In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:07,290 --> 00:00:08,670 the people are represented 3 00:00:08,670 --> 00:00:11,170 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:11,170 --> 00:00:12,920 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,840 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,600 These are their stories. 7 00:00:19,140 --> 00:00:22,180 [turnstile beeps] 8 00:00:22,180 --> 00:00:26,270 [train screeches distantly] 9 00:00:40,330 --> 00:00:41,950 - [grunts] - [gasps] 10 00:00:41,950 --> 00:00:45,120 [suspenseful music] 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:52,300 ♪ ♪ 12 00:01:06,020 --> 00:01:07,980 Hey. [train chimes] 13 00:01:07,980 --> 00:01:10,070 Where you headed tonight, beautiful? 14 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:12,150 Can I come? - [whistling] 15 00:01:12,150 --> 00:01:14,150 Come on. Where you going? 16 00:01:14,150 --> 00:01:16,030 Come back. [indistinct chatter] 17 00:01:16,030 --> 00:01:23,200 ♪ ♪ 18 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:27,170 Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to-- 19 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:30,040 [wheezing] [wheels screeching] 20 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,840 [screams] 21 00:01:34,050 --> 00:01:35,470 Station's locked down. 22 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:37,260 MTA is rerouting trains in both directions, 23 00:01:37,260 --> 00:01:39,550 but they're eager to get things moving again. 24 00:01:39,550 --> 00:01:41,760 Where's that level of urgency when there isn't a dead body 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,180 to deal with? 26 00:01:43,180 --> 00:01:45,100 [sighs] 27 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:46,310 [whistles] 28 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:47,770 Cause of death? 29 00:01:47,770 --> 00:01:49,100 Can't say for sure. 30 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:50,730 But given the petechial hemorrhaging, 31 00:01:50,730 --> 00:01:51,940 my guess is asphyxia. 32 00:01:51,940 --> 00:01:53,860 So he was strangled to death. 33 00:01:53,860 --> 00:01:56,190 How long ago did this happen? - Less than an hour. 34 00:01:56,190 --> 00:01:58,820 - Any witnesses? - None so far. 35 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:00,660 The MTA worker who found the body said 36 00:02:00,660 --> 00:02:02,490 he walked the car 15 minutes before, 37 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:04,790 but he didn't see anything unusual. 38 00:02:04,790 --> 00:02:08,120 So the call came in at 12:34, so the murder had to happen 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,380 sometime between 12:15 and 12:30. 40 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:12,290 We need the security footage from every station 41 00:02:12,290 --> 00:02:14,050 the train passed through in that window, okay? 42 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:15,630 Okay. 43 00:02:15,630 --> 00:02:20,220 All right, young man, let's see. 44 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:22,140 No phone. 45 00:02:22,140 --> 00:02:25,640 Oh, vic's still got his wallet. 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,600 Ellis Joyner, just turned 24. 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,810 Yeah, I thought he looked familiar. 48 00:02:32,810 --> 00:02:33,940 You know him? 49 00:02:33,940 --> 00:02:36,860 Not personally, he's a stand-up comic. 50 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:38,150 Came from down South, 51 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:40,820 loved to talk about how much he liked New York. 52 00:02:40,820 --> 00:02:42,660 Great place to live... 53 00:02:42,660 --> 00:02:44,870 not such a great place to die. 54 00:02:47,790 --> 00:02:51,330 [dramatic music] 55 00:02:51,330 --> 00:02:58,510 ♪ ♪ 56 00:03:33,290 --> 00:03:36,880 We found bleeding in the anterior neck strap muscles, 57 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,010 as well as fractures in the hyoid bone 58 00:03:40,010 --> 00:03:41,880 and thyroid cartilage horns. 59 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,550 And that means? 60 00:03:43,550 --> 00:03:45,010 He died of cerebral ischemia 61 00:03:45,010 --> 00:03:47,100 due to a lack of blood flow to the brain. 62 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:48,850 I'd say his carotid arteries 63 00:03:48,850 --> 00:03:51,350 and jugular vein were compressed bilaterally, 64 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:52,730 like this. 65 00:03:52,730 --> 00:03:54,560 So the killer had him in a sleeper hold? 66 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,860 Exactly, a carotid sleeper hold. 67 00:03:56,860 --> 00:03:58,570 So you're saying our vic was choked to death. 68 00:03:58,570 --> 00:04:00,320 Yes, and it's not like 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,070 he had an easy time breathing on his own. 70 00:04:03,070 --> 00:04:04,450 What do you mean? 71 00:04:04,450 --> 00:04:06,200 ME pulled Joyner's medical records. 72 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,450 Turns out he had severe asthma. 73 00:04:08,450 --> 00:04:09,910 She said his lungs were hyperinflated, 74 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:12,960 which means he was likely having an attack when he died. 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,620 - Was that the cause of death? - No. 76 00:04:14,620 --> 00:04:16,420 That would be strangulation, 77 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:18,630 probably from a lethal choke hold. 78 00:04:18,630 --> 00:04:20,510 What else do we know about the vic? 79 00:04:20,510 --> 00:04:22,420 He was single, lived alone. 80 00:04:22,420 --> 00:04:24,760 Both parents were deceased. 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,300 His latest comedy special on YouTube 82 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:28,600 had over a million views-- the guy was pretty popular. 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Yeah, well, not with everyone. 84 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,480 What about his phone? Did we ping it? 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,770 No signal. 86 00:04:33,770 --> 00:04:36,100 Bright side is, the MLI found fresh blood 87 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:38,110 on Joyner's jacket that didn't match his blood type, 88 00:04:38,110 --> 00:04:39,940 so the lab's going through that right now. 89 00:04:39,940 --> 00:04:42,530 All right, so where are we with the video footage? 90 00:04:42,530 --> 00:04:44,320 Our train passed through 6 stations 91 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,820 within the 15-minute window. 92 00:04:45,820 --> 00:04:48,950 Of the 6, 4 of them had cameras that were broken. 93 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:51,120 Footage from the 2 stations that had working cameras 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,830 caught a few dozen people getting on and off the trains. 95 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:55,670 Yeah, except none of 'em go into 96 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:57,380 or out of the car where Joyner was found. 97 00:04:57,380 --> 00:05:00,340 Hey, so Joyner's MetroCard was swiped 98 00:05:00,340 --> 00:05:02,710 at 14th Street Station, where he got on. 99 00:05:02,710 --> 00:05:04,220 There were no working cameras there either. 100 00:05:04,220 --> 00:05:07,640 But I pulled street-cam footage from outside the station. 101 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,890 The closest I could get was a few blocks away, 102 00:05:09,890 --> 00:05:11,930 but I found this. 103 00:05:11,930 --> 00:05:18,020 ♪ ♪ 104 00:05:18,020 --> 00:05:19,520 Well, that dude does not look happy. 105 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,190 - Yeah. - Can you zoom in on his face? 106 00:05:22,190 --> 00:05:24,280 ♪ ♪ 107 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:25,650 Wait, is that-- 108 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:27,780 - Malcolm Paige? - The comedian? 109 00:05:27,780 --> 00:05:29,910 He used to open for Chappelle back in the day. 110 00:05:29,910 --> 00:05:31,580 Track him down. 111 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:35,410 An audience member at your show last night 112 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:36,960 posted this to their social media. 113 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,250 - It'd be a massive disappointment 114 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:40,710 if he was even remotely relevant anymore. 115 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:42,300 But you know what they say. 116 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,460 You either die a hero or live long enough 117 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:46,170 to become Malcolm Paige. 118 00:05:46,170 --> 00:05:49,010 [laughter] 119 00:05:49,010 --> 00:05:51,890 Is that why you attacked him after the show? 120 00:05:51,890 --> 00:05:54,680 He attacked me. 121 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,810 Got his panties all in a twist because he didn't like 122 00:05:56,810 --> 00:05:59,850 some of the jokes I was tellin'. 123 00:05:59,850 --> 00:06:02,940 Hit too close to home for fancy boy. 124 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:06,190 Is this you trying to imply that Joyner was gay? 125 00:06:06,190 --> 00:06:07,650 I ain't implying nothing. 126 00:06:07,650 --> 00:06:09,320 The point is, he embarrassed you 127 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,120 in front of what was supposed to be your audience. 128 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,950 I mean, it must've really pissed you off, huh? 129 00:06:13,950 --> 00:06:15,500 Whatever. 130 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,080 You know, we have video of you taking a swing at Joyner. 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,210 So what happened? 132 00:06:20,210 --> 00:06:22,710 You follow him down the subway, try to finish the fight? 133 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:24,130 My car service picked me up 134 00:06:24,130 --> 00:06:26,590 right after Joyner ran off like a little bitch, 135 00:06:26,590 --> 00:06:28,130 followed by his b-- 136 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,470 Boyfriend in tow. 137 00:06:32,470 --> 00:06:34,060 You're saying he was with somebody? 138 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:36,890 He was with a dude, 139 00:06:36,890 --> 00:06:40,480 and they weren't getting along either. 140 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,150 Paige's car service confirms his alibi. 141 00:06:43,150 --> 00:06:45,190 I went through Joyner's texts and emails in the cloud. 142 00:06:45,190 --> 00:06:46,820 There's no evidence he had a boyfriend. 143 00:06:46,820 --> 00:06:49,200 Well, I think that's 'cause he was still in the closet. 144 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,610 I contacted the Travlr app. 145 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:53,070 They gave me access to his account here. 146 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:55,990 It looks like he was dating somebody he met on the site. 147 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:59,750 A lot of messages between him and a guy named Michael Zane. 148 00:06:59,750 --> 00:07:01,290 He's in the system. 149 00:07:01,290 --> 00:07:04,540 Zane was arrested for aggravated assault last year. 150 00:07:04,540 --> 00:07:05,750 Hmm. 151 00:07:05,750 --> 00:07:06,760 Yeah, these two were definitely 152 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,090 in some kind of fight. 153 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:10,970 I mean, "Keep on like this, you'll end up dead." 154 00:07:10,970 --> 00:07:12,760 Either the Zane guy can see the future or-- 155 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:21,690 ... 156 00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:22,310 I didn't kill Ellis. 157 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:25,980 I cared about him very much. 158 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:28,030 "Keep on like this, and you're gonna end up dead." 159 00:07:28,030 --> 00:07:30,700 You didn't send that message? - No, not like that. 160 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:34,660 I was talking about his... self-hatred. 161 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:36,030 We have an eyewitness 162 00:07:36,030 --> 00:07:38,120 that puts the two of you together night before last. 163 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,040 Said you guys were in some kind of fight. 164 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,620 We were. 165 00:07:41,620 --> 00:07:43,670 I thought things would be better for him 166 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:46,340 if he allowed himself to live openly, 167 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:48,710 but he refused. 168 00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:50,550 He was convinced his fan base would turn on him. 169 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:52,180 This fight ever turn physical? 170 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:53,590 No, of course not. 171 00:07:53,590 --> 00:07:56,810 We are aware of your prior for aggravated assault. 172 00:07:56,810 --> 00:07:59,560 I was in a bar when two dudes got into a fight. 173 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,560 I tried to break things up, but... 174 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,860 I'm Black, so when the cops showed up-- 175 00:08:05,860 --> 00:08:08,940 So you were on the train with Ellis that night? 176 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:10,030 Yeah. 177 00:08:10,030 --> 00:08:11,610 Malcolm Paige had just attacked him, 178 00:08:11,610 --> 00:08:14,200 and he said he wanted time to be alone. 179 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,700 So I got off after a few stops, went home. 180 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:21,040 Did you notice anything suspicious 181 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,620 while you were on the subway? 182 00:08:23,620 --> 00:08:25,880 Yeah. 183 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,550 Uh, there was a guy on the subway with us, 184 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:30,170 white guy. 185 00:08:30,170 --> 00:08:32,220 He kept staring at us. 186 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:35,470 And when I got up to get off, he stepped in my way. 187 00:08:35,470 --> 00:08:37,100 - On purpose? - Yeah. 188 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:39,680 I wasn't in the mood, so I just brushed past him. 189 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:41,140 Did he say anything to you? 190 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:42,640 "Watch yourself." 191 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,060 - Can you describe him? - Brown hair. 192 00:08:45,060 --> 00:08:48,190 He was wearing bright-yellow sneakers, 193 00:08:48,190 --> 00:08:50,030 like, neon, 194 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:52,070 and a hoodie 195 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:54,570 with some kind of symbol on the back. 196 00:08:54,570 --> 00:08:58,280 [low ominous music] 197 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,160 - What station is that? - 86th Street, 198 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,790 one stop before the one where Joyner's body was found. 199 00:09:02,790 --> 00:09:04,290 Okay, but we can't see his face, though. 200 00:09:04,290 --> 00:09:06,040 Can you find another angle? - This is all we've got. 201 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,090 Can you zoom in on that? 202 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:12,260 Wait a second. I've seen that logo before. 203 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:17,510 ♪ ♪ 204 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:19,180 [rock music playing] 205 00:09:19,180 --> 00:09:21,720 This place opened up about a year ago. 206 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,100 Been peppering my neighborhood with flyers. 207 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:26,100 Mixed martial arts is the future, huh? 208 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:27,850 Yeah, maybe this is where our killer 209 00:09:27,850 --> 00:09:30,270 learned to strangle people. - 'Sup? How you doing? 210 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:31,900 Uh, yeah, we'd like to talk to the owner. 211 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:33,280 Is he here? - Dom? 212 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,940 Um, you just missed him. 213 00:09:34,940 --> 00:09:37,280 He left, like, two minutes ago. - Is that him? 214 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,200 ♪ ♪ 215 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,790 Yep. 216 00:09:41,790 --> 00:09:43,160 I see it. 217 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,080 You know when he's gonna be back? 218 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,790 He was getting a cab to the airport. 219 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:48,460 Did he say where he was going? 220 00:09:48,460 --> 00:09:51,290 I want to say Toronto. 221 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:52,920 Which way did he go? 222 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,880 [tense music] 223 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,970 ♪ ♪ 224 00:09:59,970 --> 00:10:01,640 Vince. 225 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:08,850 ♪ ♪ 226 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:16,740 [whistles] 227 00:10:16,740 --> 00:10:18,070 Hey! 228 00:10:18,070 --> 00:10:22,450 Hey, NYPD. Mr. Kovac, NYPD. 229 00:10:22,450 --> 00:10:24,410 - Hey. - Hey! 230 00:10:27,870 --> 00:10:29,370 - Do not move! - NYPD! 231 00:10:29,370 --> 00:10:31,840 - Do you hear me? Do not move! - NYPD! 232 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,750 I didn't know you guys were cops. 233 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:35,460 Yeah, you just treat everybody that way? 234 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:38,170 - Treat Ellis Joyner that way? - I don't know who that is. 235 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:39,970 He was choked to death two nights ago in the subway. 236 00:10:39,970 --> 00:10:41,720 That ringing a bell? 237 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,600 Okay, tough guy, you're coming with us. 238 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,720 Get up. 239 00:10:47,390 --> 00:10:50,020 I've never seen this guy before in my life. 240 00:10:50,020 --> 00:10:51,520 You know, Domhnall, we are aware 241 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,690 of your four previous convictions for assault, 242 00:10:54,690 --> 00:10:58,030 all against Black victims, two charged as hate crimes. 243 00:10:58,030 --> 00:11:00,700 Clocked that tattoo on you-- 244 00:11:00,700 --> 00:11:02,410 the combat boots with the "88." 245 00:11:02,410 --> 00:11:04,410 That's a white nationalist symbol. 246 00:11:04,410 --> 00:11:05,450 So what happened? 247 00:11:05,450 --> 00:11:07,290 You see a Black guy on the train, 248 00:11:07,290 --> 00:11:08,960 decided to take him out? 249 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:12,210 I didn't do anything to anyone. 250 00:11:12,210 --> 00:11:14,170 [bangs on table] Hey. 251 00:11:14,170 --> 00:11:16,170 I'm the one talking to you. 252 00:11:16,170 --> 00:11:17,420 Fine. 253 00:11:17,420 --> 00:11:18,840 I'll tell you, then. 254 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,630 I had nothing to do with what happened to that guy. 255 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:23,600 Where were you around midnight night before last? 256 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,810 - Chelsea, working out. - You work out at that hour? 257 00:11:26,810 --> 00:11:28,810 I run an intensive training program 258 00:11:28,810 --> 00:11:30,560 for some guys at the gym. 259 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:32,400 I call it the Combat Academy. 260 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,560 I base it on the Navy SEALs training course. 261 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,070 So, once a week, we do a late-night endurance run. 262 00:11:37,070 --> 00:11:38,740 And when did this endurance run end? 263 00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,240 Around midnight. 264 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,570 Okay, so you go on your little fun run. 265 00:11:42,570 --> 00:11:45,120 Then you get on the subway, and you kill Ellis Joyner. 266 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,910 I was never on the subway. 267 00:11:46,910 --> 00:11:48,830 We have you on video. 268 00:11:48,830 --> 00:11:52,290 You can make out this sweatshirt 269 00:11:52,290 --> 00:11:54,580 and those sneakers clear as day. 270 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:56,880 These are part of the Combat Academy uniform. 271 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,340 Every member has them. 272 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,340 Look, fellas, I'm trying to tell you-- 273 00:12:02,340 --> 00:12:05,050 after the run was over, I went to my girlfriend's apartment. 274 00:12:05,050 --> 00:12:07,100 She lives a few blocks away. 275 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:09,970 You can check with her doorman. 276 00:12:09,970 --> 00:12:12,390 All right, and would you be willing to submit 277 00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:14,690 to a DNA swab? 278 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:15,810 Fine. 279 00:12:15,810 --> 00:12:17,110 We're also gonna need the names 280 00:12:17,110 --> 00:12:20,110 of every member of your Combat Academy 281 00:12:20,110 --> 00:12:21,530 that was there that night. 282 00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:25,490 ♪ ♪ 283 00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:31,750 [school bell rings] - All right. See you guys. 284 00:12:33,460 --> 00:12:36,330 - Brandon Arnou? - Yes? 285 00:12:36,330 --> 00:12:39,050 NYPD, we need to talk to you for a minute. 286 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:41,300 Uh, yeah, of course. Is something wrong? 287 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:43,970 - We're investigating a murder. - A murder? 288 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:45,430 Are you a member 289 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:46,800 of Domhnall Kovac's Combat Academy? 290 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,260 Uh, yes. Why? 291 00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:50,930 Did you attend his midnight training session 292 00:12:50,930 --> 00:12:51,980 three nights ago? 293 00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:54,640 Um, I-I did. 294 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,230 I did, yeah. 295 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:58,150 Yeah, I'm trying to get back into shape. 296 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:59,900 My wife left me last year, and I-- 297 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:02,570 You--you don't need to know all that. [chuckles] 298 00:13:02,570 --> 00:13:05,160 You ride the subway home after that? 299 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,990 Uh, no. 300 00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:08,530 - Really? - Mm-mm. 301 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:10,160 'Cause we noticed that your apartment's a straight shot 302 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,950 on the C train from Chelsea. 303 00:13:11,950 --> 00:13:14,160 Yeah, well, I-I-I ran home, 304 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,830 trying to push myself, you know? 305 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:18,340 How did you get that lip? 306 00:13:18,340 --> 00:13:20,380 Oh, uh, grappling training. 307 00:13:20,380 --> 00:13:21,800 Took an elbow to the face. [chuckles] 308 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,590 Would you be willing to submit to a DNA swab, 309 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:27,680 just to eliminate you as a suspect? 310 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:29,800 Uh... 311 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,510 [sighs] 312 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:35,390 Look, it was an accident. - What was an accident? 313 00:13:35,390 --> 00:13:37,480 That man was attacking a woman on the subway. 314 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,400 I-I was just trying to protect her. 315 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,530 I know I should have told someone, but I panicked. 316 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:45,610 Are you admitting to killing Ellis Joyner? 317 00:13:45,610 --> 00:13:48,070 [dramatic music] 318 00:13:48,070 --> 00:13:50,160 Look, I didn't mean to. 319 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,830 - Okay. - I-I was just trying to help. 320 00:13:51,830 --> 00:13:53,870 Hands behind your back. 321 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:55,830 We're gonna walk out of here nice and slow. 322 00:13:55,830 --> 00:13:57,290 Here we go. 323 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,130 Detectives, what is the holdup here? 324 00:14:01,130 --> 00:14:04,260 My client has explained to you what happened several times. 325 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:06,930 Yeah, we really appreciate your cooperation, too. 326 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:08,840 He has nothing to hide. 327 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,060 Arnou, so that woman that you say Ellis Joyner attacked, 328 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:14,100 the one you claim to have rescued, 329 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:15,930 she was dressed like a dancer, yeah? 330 00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:17,390 Yeah, she was wearing tights, 331 00:14:17,390 --> 00:14:21,270 and her hair was in a, uh, ball, you know? 332 00:14:21,270 --> 00:14:23,110 Thing is, we checked the surveillance footage 333 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:24,480 from the train platforms, 334 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,440 and we didn't find anybody meeting that description. 335 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,200 I'm telling you, she was there. 336 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,870 Were the cameras working at every station? 337 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:33,790 We also executed a search warrant in your home. 338 00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:35,120 Didn't find anything. 339 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Yeah, well, of course not. What would you find? 340 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,170 Mm. Yeah, but, see, then we got a search warrant 341 00:14:40,170 --> 00:14:41,630 for your gym locker. 342 00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:43,880 That's where we found something really interesting. 343 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,550 Ellis Joyner's cell phone, but you knew that... 344 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:50,090 because you stole it from him right after you killed him, 345 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:51,260 and we know why. 346 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:52,600 Because right after you attacked him, 347 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,390 he started recording you, didn't he? 348 00:14:54,390 --> 00:14:56,350 And, see, what you don't know about Black people is, 349 00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:58,640 we can never be too careful 'cause we don't know 350 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,100 who's gonna try to paint us out to be the bad guy. 351 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,060 So we watched that video, 352 00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:05,030 and we listened to it, and we did not see any woman. 353 00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:06,740 But what we did see is that-- 354 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:10,110 Don't say another word. 355 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:11,660 This interview's over. 356 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:15,790 ♪ ♪ 357 00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:18,040 What do you think? 358 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040 It's a tough call. 359 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,460 He admits to killing Joyner, 360 00:15:21,460 --> 00:15:24,460 but I'm not sure we have enough to charge. 361 00:15:24,460 --> 00:15:26,960 So we have two choices. 362 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,340 We can either cut him loose, or we can arrest him. 363 00:15:30,340 --> 00:15:36,390 ♪ ♪ 364 00:15:36,390 --> 00:15:37,810 Arrest him. 365 00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:43,650 ♪ ♪ 366 00:15:43,650 --> 00:15:45,480 Brandon Arnou's really captured 367 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,610 the public's attention. - Sure has. 368 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:49,530 Half the city buys Arnou's story-- 369 00:15:49,530 --> 00:15:51,360 that he killed Joyner in self-defense-- 370 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,120 and the other half sees white man 371 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,830 killing an unarmed Black man. 372 00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:59,200 It's a litmus test for what people think 373 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,540 or what they want to believe. 374 00:16:00,540 --> 00:16:02,670 Well, here's what I believe. 375 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:05,290 Arnou held Joyner in a choke hold 376 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:07,670 for a long time after he was unconscious. 377 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:09,840 Even if he was acting in self-defense 378 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,170 at the start of all this, 379 00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:12,930 it eventually turned into a homicide. 380 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:14,340 And we have video that supports that? 381 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:15,640 Uh, sort of. 382 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,310 Seconds after Joyner pulled out his phone 383 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:18,350 to record the incident, 384 00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:20,430 Arnou knocked it out of his hands. 385 00:16:20,430 --> 00:16:23,190 Then the phone landed on the ground lens down. 386 00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:24,400 Visually, it's just black. 387 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,440 But it kept recording, so there's audio. 388 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,230 You can hear Arnou get Joyner into the choke hold. 389 00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:31,530 Joyner repeatedly says he can't breathe. 390 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:33,740 And after that, the tape goes silent. 391 00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:35,870 - Because Joyner passed out. - That's what it seems like. 392 00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:36,950 After he goes quiet, 393 00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:39,200 there's three minutes of total silence 394 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,410 before Arnou gets off him. 395 00:16:40,410 --> 00:16:41,960 You're saying that he kept Joyner 396 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,670 in a choke hold for three full minutes 397 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:45,250 after he seemed to have passed out? 398 00:16:45,250 --> 00:16:46,840 Mm-hmm, and Arnou picks up the phone, 399 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,800 realizes it's been recording, and then stops it. 400 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,800 But the phone must've locked. - Which is why Arnou took it. 401 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,510 He realized it would upload to the cloud, 402 00:16:53,510 --> 00:16:54,630 so he wanted to delete it. 403 00:16:54,630 --> 00:16:56,680 Search history on Arnou's laptop 404 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,760 shows that he was trying to figure out 405 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,470 how to access a phone without a passcode. 406 00:17:00,470 --> 00:17:02,480 Obviously knew the video was damning. 407 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,560 So what's the next move? What are you thinking? 408 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,690 We have a solid case for manslaughter. 409 00:17:07,690 --> 00:17:09,440 Whether you believe Arnou's account or not, 410 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,070 there--there's no question he used excessive force. 411 00:17:12,070 --> 00:17:13,320 Manslaughter? 412 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,030 You just told me he choked him out 413 00:17:15,030 --> 00:17:17,070 for three minutes after he was already unconscious. 414 00:17:17,070 --> 00:17:20,700 Correct, but Arnou claims he was trying to help someone. 415 00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:22,410 He was trying to protect a young woman. 416 00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:25,370 That woman we haven't been able to identify. 417 00:17:25,370 --> 00:17:27,420 This isn't manslaughter, Nolan. 418 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:29,630 This is depraved indifference to human life. 419 00:17:29,630 --> 00:17:31,090 You want to charge him with murder? 420 00:17:31,090 --> 00:17:33,970 Absolutely. We need to make a statement. 421 00:17:33,970 --> 00:17:35,800 The facts are tricky. 422 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,930 Arnou claims he was trying to save a woman's life, 423 00:17:37,930 --> 00:17:40,350 not to mention he has no history of violence. 424 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:41,600 I understand. 425 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,190 But this is George Floyd all over again. 426 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,100 And I'm sure as hell not gonna end up 427 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:48,440 on the wrong side of it. 428 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,230 Charge him with murder two. 429 00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:01,410 - [grunting] - [gasping] 430 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:07,040 I can't breathe. 431 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,460 - [grunting] - I can't breathe. 432 00:18:11,210 --> 00:18:12,590 [gasps] 433 00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:15,760 [train rattling] 434 00:18:20,510 --> 00:18:22,810 [object clatters] 435 00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:25,350 [breathing heavily] 436 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:26,810 Oh, my God. 437 00:18:30,690 --> 00:18:34,110 Dr. Infante, could you explain what we just heard? 438 00:18:34,110 --> 00:18:36,190 Once the air supply has been cut off, 439 00:18:36,190 --> 00:18:39,320 it takes about five minutes for brain death to occur-- 440 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,240 half that time for an asthmatic. 441 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,370 The body goes through severe seizure-like activity 442 00:18:44,370 --> 00:18:46,080 with convulsions. 443 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,040 And once enough pressure was applied to the carotid artery, 444 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,170 the victim would have lost consciousness. 445 00:18:51,170 --> 00:18:53,420 Which accounts for the last three minutes 446 00:18:53,420 --> 00:18:54,840 when there were no sounds of a struggle? 447 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:55,960 Yes. 448 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,260 Meaning after those first few minutes, 449 00:18:58,260 --> 00:18:59,760 Ellis Joyner no longer posed 450 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,510 a lethal threat to the defendant? 451 00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:03,560 In my professional opinion, no. 452 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,230 And--and yet, for three full minutes, 453 00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:11,150 the defendant just continued to choke him. 454 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:15,070 Thank you, Doctor. No further questions. 455 00:19:15,070 --> 00:19:17,900 [chair scrapes] 456 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,110 Dr. Infante, isn't it true 457 00:19:20,110 --> 00:19:22,410 that the surge of adrenaline caused 458 00:19:22,410 --> 00:19:24,910 by a life-or-death confrontation 459 00:19:24,910 --> 00:19:27,950 can distort not only one's sense of time 460 00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:31,330 but also an awareness of one's surroundings? 461 00:19:31,330 --> 00:19:33,710 It's possible. 462 00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:36,130 Would you characterize such a response as reasonable? 463 00:19:36,130 --> 00:19:39,340 I would say it's not uncommon. 464 00:19:39,340 --> 00:19:43,180 So you're saying it is both possible and reasonable 465 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:46,970 that in the confusion and panic of the moment, 466 00:19:46,970 --> 00:19:49,730 Brandon Arnou did not realize 467 00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:52,810 that the man he believed was trying to kill him 468 00:19:52,810 --> 00:19:55,270 had lost consciousness? 469 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:56,570 Yes. 470 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:59,690 Thank you. Nothing further. 471 00:20:03,030 --> 00:20:05,200 How long had you and Ellis Joyner 472 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,240 been seeing each other? 473 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,000 About six months. 474 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,540 It wasn't a storybook romance, but... 475 00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:14,540 it was the best six months of my life. 476 00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:17,000 You were on the train that night with Ellis, correct? 477 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,550 Yes, I got off at 50th Street to go home. 478 00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:22,510 Did you interact with the defendant at all 479 00:20:22,510 --> 00:20:23,890 while you were on the train? 480 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:27,510 Yes, I caught him staring at us a couple of times. 481 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:29,430 It was weird. 482 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:32,350 And when I got up to get off, he... 483 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:33,560 stepped in my way. 484 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,190 Intentionally? 485 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,520 Yeah, aggressively. 486 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,360 When I accidentally bumped into him, 487 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,860 he said, "Watch yourself," with this tone. 488 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:46,620 - What kind of tone? - A racist tone. 489 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:49,620 Like, he might as well have said, "Watch yourself, boy." 490 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:52,120 Objection, Your Honor, calls for speculation. 491 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,080 The witness can't testify to things my client didn't say. 492 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,250 Sustained. 493 00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:58,380 The jury will disregard. 494 00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:00,130 No further questions. 495 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:06,890 You claim that Mr. Arnou was aggressive 496 00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:08,970 towards you, confrontational. 497 00:21:08,970 --> 00:21:10,470 He was. 498 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:15,150 But Mr. Arnou has no history of violent behavior, none. 499 00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:16,480 So? 500 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,230 But you do, right? 501 00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:21,570 You were charged with aggravated assault. 502 00:21:21,570 --> 00:21:23,360 Yeah, but that has nothing to do 503 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,070 with what happened that night. 504 00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:27,950 He was the aggressor. - I see. 505 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:32,250 And to be clear, you were not a witness to the altercation 506 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,580 between Ellis Joyner and Mr. Arnou? 507 00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:37,630 - Correct. - So you have no idea 508 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,750 if Joyner attacked that woman or not, 509 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:42,590 and you have no idea if Mr. Arnou was, 510 00:21:42,590 --> 00:21:45,130 in fact, trying to help her. 511 00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:49,430 I wasn't there, but I know he didn't attack that woman. 512 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:53,140 But you weren't there. 513 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,390 No further questions. 514 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:58,940 The witness may step down. 515 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:00,940 Call your next witness, Mr. Price. 516 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:02,730 The prosecution rests. 517 00:22:02,730 --> 00:22:05,110 Mr. Kagan, you're up. 518 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:09,030 The defense calls Rebecca Lasky. 519 00:22:09,030 --> 00:22:10,950 Objection, Your Honor, unfair surprise. 520 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:12,450 This is the first we are hearing 521 00:22:12,450 --> 00:22:13,950 of any witness by that name. 522 00:22:13,950 --> 00:22:16,710 That's because this witness only just came forward. 523 00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:21,380 ♪ ♪ 524 00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:26,760 Ms. Lasky, were you on the C subway train 525 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,300 the night Ellis Joyner was killed? 526 00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:32,640 Yes, I was there. 527 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,600 Did you witness the altercation? 528 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,980 Yes, I did. 529 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:40,230 Can you tell us what happened? 530 00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:44,780 I entered the subway car 531 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:48,320 and accidentally bumped into Mr. Joyner, 532 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,860 and... 533 00:22:49,860 --> 00:22:53,280 he appeared to be mentally disturbed in some way. 534 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,830 He kept making these aggressive grunting noises. 535 00:22:57,830 --> 00:23:00,000 And then he lunged at me. 536 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,130 And then what happened? 537 00:23:02,130 --> 00:23:06,340 He reached into his pocket. 538 00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:10,930 I was scared he had a knife or something, so I screamed. 539 00:23:10,930 --> 00:23:14,510 I screamed for help... 540 00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:16,810 and that man saved me. 541 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:19,690 My client, Mr. Arnou? 542 00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:22,560 Yes, he grabbed Mr. Joyner, 543 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,480 and he pulled him away from me. 544 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,780 And then Joyner attacked him, and they started fighting. 545 00:23:30,780 --> 00:23:32,990 I was terrified. 546 00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:35,490 If he hadn't been there... 547 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:39,330 That man is a hero. 548 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:46,300 ♪ ♪ 549 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,350 [knock at door] - Yep. 550 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480 Turns out there really was a female witness. 551 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,150 - So I've heard. - She was credible, too. 552 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:04,560 Her testimony was compelling. 553 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,320 Meaning what? 554 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,110 We should offer a manslaughter plea. 555 00:24:08,110 --> 00:24:10,070 [scoffs] I'd be surprised if they accepted it, 556 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:11,450 but it's worth a shot. 557 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:14,280 But the audio-video clip hasn't changed, correct? 558 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,160 - Excuse me? - The clip where we hear 559 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,540 Mr. Joyner begging for his life, 560 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:21,870 where we hear Mr. Arnou choking out 561 00:24:21,870 --> 00:24:24,500 an unconscious man for a full three minutes. 562 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:27,000 That is correct. That clip still exists. 563 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,170 But there is now more context for it-- 564 00:24:29,170 --> 00:24:31,090 context that is not in our favor. 565 00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:33,340 But just because a white woman saw Joyner 566 00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:35,680 as a threat doesn't make it true. 567 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,560 Like I said, her testimony was credible. 568 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,350 The jury seemed to respond quite favorably. 569 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:43,020 But the witness wasn't actually there 570 00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:44,230 when the murder took place. 571 00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:46,400 She left before the fight ended, right? 572 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,360 That's why she didn't show up in the video. 573 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:51,650 - Mm-hmm. - So make that clear, Nolan. 574 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,410 Remind them that Ms. Lasky wasn't present 575 00:24:56,410 --> 00:24:59,490 when the defendant choked the life out of Mr. Joyner. 576 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,420 Ms. Lasky, you weren't actually present 577 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:13,470 when the defendant strangled Ellis Joyner to death, correct? 578 00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:16,640 No, the train stopped while they were still fighting, 579 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,260 and I got off. 580 00:25:19,260 --> 00:25:21,520 But I saw the start of the fight. 581 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,770 I saw Mr. Arnou grab Joyner by the arm 582 00:25:24,770 --> 00:25:27,150 and pull him away from me. 583 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:31,070 And then I saw Joyner elbow him in the face. 584 00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:34,820 Right, because Mr. Joyner was terrified. 585 00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:37,870 From his perspective, he was the one fighting for his life. 586 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:40,370 I don't know. 587 00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:43,540 It all happened really fast. 588 00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:46,620 And they were yelling at each other. 589 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:50,920 And Mr. Arnou kept yelling at him to stop, to surrender, 590 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,670 and that he was bleeding, 591 00:25:52,670 --> 00:25:55,510 and he was dirty-- 592 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:58,970 or fighting dirty. 593 00:25:58,970 --> 00:26:02,890 I don't really remember the exact words. 594 00:26:02,890 --> 00:26:04,730 But Joyner didn't listen. 595 00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:07,650 He reached into his pocket. 596 00:26:07,650 --> 00:26:10,820 It looked like he was trying to grab a knife. 597 00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:12,820 So Mr. Arnou tackled him, 598 00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:15,780 and they started wrestling. 599 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:18,570 That's when the train stopped, and I got off. 600 00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:20,330 Just got off? 601 00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:22,740 You didn't tell anyone what was happening? 602 00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:24,450 I wasn't thinking straight. 603 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,170 Everything was happening at once. 604 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:30,210 [sighs] When the doors opened, I ran out to look 605 00:26:30,210 --> 00:26:33,050 for someone to tell, like a cop or something. 606 00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:35,800 But the subway station was empty. 607 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,090 Then the doors closed, and the train took off. 608 00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:42,510 So that means you weren't there during the three minutes 609 00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:44,430 that Ellis Joyner was unconscious 610 00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:45,980 and the defendant continued 611 00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:48,480 to choke the life out of his body? 612 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,440 No, but, like I said, I thought he had a knife. 613 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,480 I'm sure Mr. Arnou did, too. 614 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,990 Did you actually see a knife? 615 00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:59,160 No, but-- 616 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,530 Did you see a weapon of any kind? 617 00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:07,040 - No. - And you had no idea 618 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,130 that Ellis Joyner was severely asthmatic? 619 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:12,630 I didn't at the time. 620 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:15,340 Mr. Joyner had been in an altercation 621 00:27:15,340 --> 00:27:16,920 with a fellow comic that night, 622 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,680 then a fraught, verbal argument with his boyfriend. 623 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,760 High-stress situations can trigger an asthma attack. 624 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,520 Ellis Joyner was having an asthma attack. 625 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,520 He wasn't acting aggressively, nor was he mentally ill. 626 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,530 He was simply having an asthma attack, 627 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,530 and you misinterpreted his behavior. 628 00:27:38,530 --> 00:27:42,320 You saw a scary Black man making a noise-- 629 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,030 - Objection. - Sustained. 630 00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:48,410 [soft tense music] 631 00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,250 [sighs] 632 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:52,540 ♪ ♪ 633 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:54,880 Mr. Joyner's behavior that night was consistent 634 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,420 with someone suffering from an asthma attack, correct? 635 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:04,180 Yes, I suppose. 636 00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:08,980 And if that's what it was... 637 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,640 I feel terrible. 638 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,360 Then... 639 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,900 this whole thing i-is... 640 00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:21,650 it's all my fault. 641 00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:23,370 But either way, 642 00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:26,160 Mr. Arnou came to my defense. 643 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,200 ♪ ♪ 644 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,000 He tried to help me, 645 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,250 and he shouldn't be held responsible. 646 00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:41,220 ♪ ♪ 647 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,550 She made a strong case that Arnou is not the one to blame. 648 00:28:44,550 --> 00:28:45,890 Yeah. 649 00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:48,100 What do you think about what Lasky said in there, 650 00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,230 that, uh, bit about Arnou saying something 651 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:51,640 about blood and dirt? 652 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,900 Oh, I-I don't know what to make of it. Why? 653 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:55,940 Do you think it's possible he was saying something 654 00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:58,780 about "blood and soil"? 655 00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:01,530 - That's a Nazi slogan. - Exactly. 656 00:29:01,530 --> 00:29:04,200 It's the new battle cry of white nationalist groups. 657 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,530 You think Arnou is a white supremacist? 658 00:29:06,530 --> 00:29:07,830 Yeah, I-I don't know. 659 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:09,700 I'm--I'm just trying to understand 660 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:11,620 why he was saying "blood and dirt." 661 00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:14,370 We interviewed his neighbors, his coworkers. 662 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:16,170 None of them reported anything that would suggest-- 663 00:29:16,170 --> 00:29:20,710 What about where he trains, the, uh, Kovac Academy? 664 00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:21,720 What about it? 665 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,550 Detectives interviewed the owner. 666 00:29:23,550 --> 00:29:26,260 He has ties to a few white nationalist organizations. 667 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:29,560 Check it out. 668 00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:35,810 I already told you. I don't know Arnou too well. 669 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:38,940 I just have a few questions. It won't take long, promise. 670 00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:42,190 [grunts] Fine, what do you want to know? 671 00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:44,150 Have you ever heard him say something 672 00:29:44,150 --> 00:29:47,660 that might be interpreted as racist? 673 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:49,870 I'm sorry, but I can't help you. 674 00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:53,250 You can't, or you don't want to? 675 00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:58,540 I'm closing up, so... 676 00:29:58,540 --> 00:30:02,170 You're aware that Arnou is on trial for murder? 677 00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:04,010 I am. 678 00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:10,930 ♪ ♪ 679 00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:16,020 Hold up. 680 00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:22,230 ♪ ♪ 681 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:25,740 Look, I can't get into the details, but... 682 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:30,160 let's just say you're heading down the right path. 683 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,830 "Right path"? What the hell is that supposed to mean? 684 00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:36,120 Like I said, I can't help you. 685 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,710 Why not? 686 00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:40,170 Because it would blow my cover. 687 00:30:40,170 --> 00:30:42,800 ♪ ♪ 688 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,170 You're a cop? 689 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,140 Nick, good to see you. 690 00:30:56,430 --> 00:30:57,810 How you doing, Robin? 691 00:30:57,810 --> 00:30:59,600 - Thanks for coming down. - Of course. 692 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,820 Um, this is Carol Oberlin. 693 00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:05,490 She's our Deputy Commissioner of Counterterrorism. 694 00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:06,990 - Glad to meet you. - Likewise. 695 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:10,120 I understand you stumbled on to our undercover operation. 696 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,910 We did. 697 00:31:11,910 --> 00:31:14,450 And, fortunately, a detective of yours has information 698 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:17,120 pertinent to a murder we're prosecuting. 699 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,620 Uh, that's great. 700 00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:21,040 But, uh, let us get you up to speed 701 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,170 on what it is we're actually investigating, 702 00:31:23,170 --> 00:31:24,500 give you a sense 703 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,420 of the scope of what we're dealing with here. 704 00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:28,010 Please. - Okay. 705 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,430 We've actually had our eye on Kovac for a while now. 706 00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:35,810 His gym is an "active club," 707 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:37,600 part of an international network 708 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,770 of white supremacist sleeper cells, 709 00:31:39,770 --> 00:31:42,730 all fronting as small MMA-style gyms. 710 00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:44,610 How big a network are we talking about? 711 00:31:44,610 --> 00:31:47,280 So far, we've identified over 30 active clubs 712 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,900 across 9 different states 713 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:50,950 and several provinces of Canada. 714 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:52,200 So how do they work? 715 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,240 The clubs operate as recruitment centers. 716 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,370 They lure in young white men under the guise of getting fit, 717 00:31:57,370 --> 00:32:01,040 while indoctrinating them in racist ideology 718 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,540 and training them in military combat. 719 00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:05,710 - They're building an army. - They're trying to. 720 00:32:05,710 --> 00:32:07,710 It's the new face of hate. 721 00:32:07,710 --> 00:32:10,470 No more white sheets or burning crosses. 722 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,550 They've adapted and created a façade 723 00:32:12,550 --> 00:32:15,060 to mask their racist beliefs. 724 00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:17,180 But we need your undercover's testimony 725 00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:21,060 to secure a conviction against one of their members. 726 00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:24,360 Detective Fields has spent nine months 727 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,860 embedding himself in this community. 728 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:28,900 All that goes out the window if he testifies. 729 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:32,110 I get that, but we're talking about murder here. 730 00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:34,780 We're not trying to step on your toes here, Nick, 731 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:36,950 but we poured a lot of resources 732 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:38,750 and manpower into this operation. 733 00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:40,580 The stakes are pretty high. 734 00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:43,380 We've recently received credible intel 735 00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,460 that Kovac is now stockpiling firearms 736 00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:48,510 and explosive materials. 737 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,470 These men are terrorists. 738 00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:53,760 They're capable of significant violence. 739 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,640 Are you asking me for a favor? 740 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,140 I'm suggesting you take a big-picture view 741 00:33:00,140 --> 00:33:01,520 of the situation. 742 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,520 [dramatic music] 743 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,730 ♪ ♪ 744 00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:08,610 We'd greatly appreciate it. 745 00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:14,160 ♪ ♪ 746 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160 - They're planning an attack? - Against who? 747 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,290 It appears to be some sort of coordinated effort 748 00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:22,410 along the lines of the January 6th insurrection, 749 00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:26,170 only more violent and without advanced warning this time. 750 00:33:26,170 --> 00:33:29,000 This only underscores how dangerous Arnou is. 751 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,590 Uh, the jury needs to know he's part of this organization. 752 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:32,920 But exposing the undercover 753 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,140 would blow up the whole investigation. 754 00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:37,680 He's the only asset they have on the inside. 755 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,930 But Ellis Joyner was murdered 756 00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:43,100 most likely because he was Black. 757 00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,810 He deserves justice. - I couldn't agree more. 758 00:33:45,810 --> 00:33:48,270 All I'm saying is, we can't call the undercover 759 00:33:48,270 --> 00:33:50,030 as a witness. 760 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,940 It's for the greater good. 761 00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:56,280 Oh, the greater good, right. 762 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,950 Thank God for that phrase. 763 00:33:58,950 --> 00:34:01,080 Excuse me? [Nolan sighs] 764 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,120 Helps justify a lot 765 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,500 of otherwise unjustifiable positions. 766 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,000 You're a terrific prosecutor, Nolan. 767 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 You're just gonna have to find another way 768 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,880 to make clear to the jury that Arnou is racist. 769 00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:21,850 Mr. Kovac, 770 00:34:21,850 --> 00:34:25,440 you were Brandon Arnou's personal trainer, correct? 771 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,190 Yes. 772 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:28,940 You two spend a lot of time together? 773 00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:31,020 About five hours a week. 774 00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:33,110 Would you say you were friendly? 775 00:34:33,110 --> 00:34:35,490 Not really. We worked out together. 776 00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:38,110 - Five hours a week? - Yes. 777 00:34:38,110 --> 00:34:41,990 You and the defendant ever discuss racial ideology? 778 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:44,000 I don't know what that means. 779 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,750 Did you ever discuss racial purity, 780 00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:48,540 uh, interracial marriage, 781 00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:50,500 the role that Black people should 782 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,210 or shouldn't play in society? 783 00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:55,010 I don't know what you're talking about. 784 00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:56,880 Permission to treat the witness as hostile, Your Honor? 785 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,680 Permission granted. 786 00:35:00,470 --> 00:35:03,390 You have a tattoo on your arm, the number 88. 787 00:35:03,390 --> 00:35:05,850 It's a neo-Nazi symbol, isn't it? 788 00:35:05,850 --> 00:35:08,440 I don't know. I just like the number 88. 789 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,980 So you don't have a problem with Black people? 790 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:12,940 - No. - Even though you have 791 00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:15,990 four prior battery convictions, 792 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:18,320 all for assaulting Black men, 793 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,240 two that were charged as hate crimes, correct? 794 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:23,580 It was a long time ago. 795 00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:25,870 Even though your bio 796 00:35:25,870 --> 00:35:28,080 in your various social-media accounts 797 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,710 contains the phrase "blood and soil"? 798 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:31,920 Objection, relevance. 799 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,920 Rebecca Lasky testified she overheard 800 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,090 the defendant utter something about blood and dirt. 801 00:35:37,090 --> 00:35:39,050 She was likely referring to the defendant's use 802 00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:41,590 of the phrase "blood and soil," a racial dog whist-- 803 00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:45,430 Objection, Ms. Lasky never mentioned the word "soil." 804 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:47,310 Her recollection was vague. 805 00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:49,730 We have a right to raise the possibility. 806 00:35:49,730 --> 00:35:51,940 I agree. Overruled. 807 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:54,150 You may proceed, Mr. Price. 808 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:56,400 Isn't it true that "blood and soil" 809 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,900 is a Nazi reference 810 00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,610 to a racially uniform society? 811 00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:03,410 It means you're proud of who you are 812 00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:04,660 and where you come from. 813 00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:09,120 And for you, that means being white. 814 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080 ♪ ♪ 815 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,130 Yes. 816 00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:16,340 ♪ ♪ 817 00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,840 You taught the defendant how to fight, correct? 818 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,590 - Yes. - Teach him how to put someone 819 00:36:20,590 --> 00:36:22,840 in a choke hold? - Yes. 820 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,560 Did you teach the defendant to hate Black people? 821 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,810 Objection! 822 00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:28,730 Withdrawn. 823 00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:30,690 Nothing further. 824 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:37,320 Mr. Kovac, did you ever discuss race with Mr. Arnou? 825 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,400 No. 826 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,490 Have you ever heard Mr. Arnou say 827 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,450 "blood and soil"? - No. 828 00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:46,700 Ellis Joyner was 6'2" and weighed 210 pounds, 829 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,910 50 pounds more than Mr. Arnou. 830 00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:53,250 As a self-defense expert, do you think it was reasonable 831 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:54,790 for Mr. Arnou 832 00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:58,460 to believe Joyner posed a lethal threat? 833 00:36:58,460 --> 00:36:59,710 Absolutely. 834 00:36:59,710 --> 00:37:02,300 Thank you. 835 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,840 No further questions. 836 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,020 ♪ ♪ 837 00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:12,310 Brandon Arnou is an elementary-school teacher, 838 00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:16,150 who's never gotten so much as a speeding ticket. 839 00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:18,360 He did not wake up that morning 840 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,490 thinking about taking another person's life. 841 00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:25,820 He did not get on that train looking for a fight. 842 00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:30,500 But when he saw a fellow citizen being attacked, 843 00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,500 he stepped up. 844 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,420 He did something. 845 00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:39,550 I live in Park Slope. 846 00:37:39,550 --> 00:37:43,010 I take the subway every day to this courthouse, 847 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:47,510 and I take it home every night. 848 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:50,100 And I pray... 849 00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:54,060 that if something were ever to happen, 850 00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:58,360 someone like Brandon Arnou... 851 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,940 is on that train with me. 852 00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:08,070 Rebecca Lasky heard the defendant 853 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:11,620 screaming something about blood and dirt. 854 00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:13,540 Most likely 855 00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:16,580 what he was screaming was "blood and soil," 856 00:38:16,580 --> 00:38:20,550 as a phrase that speaks to a declaration of hatred 857 00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:23,970 for all people of color. 858 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:26,970 Ask yourself why. 859 00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:30,890 People like Mr. Arnou keep their bigotry buttoned up. 860 00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:33,390 They only discuss it 861 00:38:33,390 --> 00:38:36,640 with people they know share their hateful worldview. 862 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,940 They rely on plausible deniability, 863 00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:42,820 because if the racism isn't overt, 864 00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:45,820 many people, 865 00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:49,030 many good people are all too happy 866 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:51,080 to assume it isn't there. 867 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,210 Except that, every once in a while, 868 00:38:55,210 --> 00:39:00,040 in moments of panic or--or anger... 869 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920 their mask will slip, 870 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,510 and their true nature is exposed. 871 00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:07,510 ♪ ♪ 872 00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:12,100 Ellis Joyner was an innocent, unarmed Black man, 873 00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,100 suffering a medical emergency. 874 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,390 And the two white people on that train with him 875 00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:20,900 assumed he was a violent threat, 876 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,440 and they attacked him. 877 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,110 The defendant may not have entered the fight 878 00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:28,410 with the intention to kill, 879 00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:31,410 but at some point, his focus shifted, 880 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,740 and his racial hate began to manifest. 881 00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:35,330 That moment 882 00:39:35,330 --> 00:39:39,000 was when the victim, Ellis Joyner, passed out, 883 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,250 when he was no longer a threat to Mr. Arnou. 884 00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:43,800 And rather than release Mr. Joyner, 885 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,920 Arnou continued to choke him 886 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,130 for three minutes. 887 00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:53,470 That is when his true colors emerged. 888 00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:55,810 That... 889 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,890 is when he murdered Ellis Joyner. 890 00:39:59,890 --> 00:40:07,070 ♪ ♪ 891 00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:12,910 Mr. Foreperson, has the jury reached a verdict? 892 00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:14,580 We have, Your Honor. 893 00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:19,160 In the charge of murder in the second degree, 894 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,830 we find the defendant, Brandon Arnou, 895 00:40:21,830 --> 00:40:23,170 not guilty. 896 00:40:23,170 --> 00:40:24,920 [crowd gasps, groans, cheers] - What the-- 897 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,670 Yeah, baby. 898 00:40:26,670 --> 00:40:29,970 Members of the jury, we thank you for your service. 899 00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:37,140 ♪ ♪ 900 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,820 Tough case, but you did a hell of a job. 901 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:49,900 Thanks. [sighs] 902 00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,360 It might have gone differently if I-- 903 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,740 if I didn't have one hand tied behind my back. 904 00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:57,790 We did the best that we could. 905 00:40:57,790 --> 00:41:00,040 No, we could have done better. 906 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,170 We just chose not to, for the greater good. 907 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:06,840 I stand by my decision. 908 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,880 Hey! There he is. 909 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,050 And one day soon, 910 00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:13,550 when we take these bastards down 911 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:16,810 and roll up their whole damn racist organization, 912 00:41:16,810 --> 00:41:20,390 you're gonna realize it was the right decision as well. 913 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:23,650 [indistinct chatter, laughter] 914 00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:27,070 ♪ ♪ 915 00:41:27,070 --> 00:41:29,730 Ellis Joyner deserved better. 916 00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:33,610 ♪ ♪ 917 00:41:33,610 --> 00:41:36,160 - All right, man. - All right, man, come on. 918 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:43,330 ♪ ♪ 919 00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:24,620 [wolf howls]66908

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