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- In the criminal justice
system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate,
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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[turnstile beeps]
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[train screeches distantly]
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- [grunts]
- [gasps]
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[suspenseful music]
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♪ ♪
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Hey.
[train chimes]
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Where you headed
tonight, beautiful?
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Can I come?
- [whistling]
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Come on.
Where you going?
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Come back.
[indistinct chatter]
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♪ ♪
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Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to--
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[wheezing]
[wheels screeching]
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[screams]
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Station's locked down.
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MTA is rerouting trains
in both directions,
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but they're eager
to get things moving again.
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Where's that level of urgency
when there isn't a dead body
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to deal with?
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[sighs]
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[whistles]
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Cause of death?
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Can't say for sure.
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But given
the petechial hemorrhaging,
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my guess is asphyxia.
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So he was strangled to death.
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How long ago did this happen?
- Less than an hour.
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- Any witnesses?
- None so far.
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The MTA worker
who found the body said
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he walked the car
15 minutes before,
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but he didn't see
anything unusual.
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So the call came in at 12:34,
so the murder had to happen
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sometime between
12:15 and 12:30.
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We need the security footage
from every station
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the train passed through
in that window, okay?
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Okay.
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All right, young man,
let's see.
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No phone.
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Oh, vic's still got his wallet.
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Ellis Joyner, just turned 24.
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Yeah, I thought
he looked familiar.
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You know him?
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Not personally,
he's a stand-up comic.
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Came from down South,
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loved to talk about how much
he liked New York.
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Great place to live...
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not such a great place to die.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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We found bleeding in the
anterior neck strap muscles,
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as well as fractures
in the hyoid bone
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and thyroid cartilage horns.
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And that means?
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He died of cerebral ischemia
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due to a lack of blood flow
to the brain.
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I'd say his carotid arteries
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and jugular vein were
compressed bilaterally,
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like this.
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So the killer had him
in a sleeper hold?
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Exactly,
a carotid sleeper hold.
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So you're saying
our vic was choked to death.
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Yes, and it's not like
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he had an easy time breathing
on his own.
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What do you mean?
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ME pulled
Joyner's medical records.
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Turns out
he had severe asthma.
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She said his lungs
were hyperinflated,
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which means he was likely
having an attack when he died.
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- Was that the cause of death?
- No.
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That would be strangulation,
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probably
from a lethal choke hold.
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What else do we know
about the vic?
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He was single, lived alone.
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Both parents were deceased.
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His latest comedy special
on YouTube
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had over a million views--
the guy was pretty popular.
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Yeah, well,
not with everyone.
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What about his phone?
Did we ping it?
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No signal.
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Bright side is,
the MLI found fresh blood
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on Joyner's jacket that didn't
match his blood type,
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so the lab's going
through that right now.
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All right, so where are we
with the video footage?
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Our train passed
through 6 stations
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within the 15-minute window.
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Of the 6, 4 of them had cameras
that were broken.
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Footage from the 2 stations
that had working cameras
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caught a few dozen people
getting on and off the trains.
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Yeah, except none
of 'em go into
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or out of the car
where Joyner was found.
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Hey, so Joyner's MetroCard
was swiped
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at 14th Street Station,
where he got on.
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There were no working cameras
there either.
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But I pulled street-cam footage
from outside the station.
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The closest I could get
was a few blocks away,
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but I found this.
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♪ ♪
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Well, that dude
does not look happy.
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- Yeah.
- Can you zoom in on his face?
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♪ ♪
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Wait, is that--
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- Malcolm Paige?
- The comedian?
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He used to open
for Chappelle back in the day.
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Track him down.
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An audience member
at your show last night
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posted this
to their social media.
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- It'd be
a massive disappointment
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if he was even
remotely relevant anymore.
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But you know what they say.
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You either die a hero
or live long enough
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to become Malcolm Paige.
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[laughter]
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Is that why you attacked him
after the show?
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He attacked me.
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Got his panties all in a twist
because he didn't like
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some of the jokes
I was tellin'.
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Hit too close to home
for fancy boy.
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Is this you trying to imply
that Joyner was gay?
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I ain't implying nothing.
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The point is,
he embarrassed you
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in front of what was supposed
to be your audience.
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I mean, it must've
really pissed you off, huh?
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Whatever.
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You know, we have video of
you taking a swing at Joyner.
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So what happened?
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You follow him down the subway,
try to finish the fight?
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My car service picked me up
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right after Joyner ran off
like a little bitch,
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followed by his b--
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Boyfriend in tow.
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You're saying
he was with somebody?
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He was with a dude,
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and they weren't
getting along either.
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Paige's car service
confirms his alibi.
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I went through Joyner's texts
and emails in the cloud.
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There's no evidence
he had a boyfriend.
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Well, I think that's 'cause
he was still in the closet.
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I contacted the Travlr app.
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They gave me access
to his account here.
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It looks like he was dating
somebody he met on the site.
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A lot of messages between him
and a guy named Michael Zane.
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He's in the system.
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Zane was arrested for
aggravated assault last year.
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Hmm.
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Yeah, these two
were definitely
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in some kind of fight.
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I mean, "Keep on like this,
you'll end up dead."
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Either the Zane guy
can see the future or--
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...
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I didn't kill Ellis.
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I cared about him very much.
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"Keep on like this,
and you're gonna end up dead."
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You didn't send that message?
- No, not like that.
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I was talking about his...
self-hatred.
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We have an eyewitness
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that puts the two of you
together night before last.
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Said you guys were
in some kind of fight.
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We were.
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I thought things
would be better for him
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if he allowed himself
to live openly,
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but he refused.
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He was convinced his fan base
would turn on him.
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This fight
ever turn physical?
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No, of course not.
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We are aware of your prior
for aggravated assault.
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I was in a bar when
two dudes got into a fight.
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I tried to break
things up, but...
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I'm Black,
so when the cops showed up--
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So you were on the train
with Ellis that night?
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Yeah.
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Malcolm Paige
had just attacked him,
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and he said he wanted time
to be alone.
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So I got off after
a few stops, went home.
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Did you notice
anything suspicious
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while you were on the subway?
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Yeah.
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Uh, there was a guy
on the subway with us,
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white guy.
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He kept staring at us.
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And when I got up to get off,
he stepped in my way.
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- On purpose?
- Yeah.
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I wasn't in the mood,
so I just brushed past him.
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Did he say anything to you?
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"Watch yourself."
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- Can you describe him?
- Brown hair.
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He was wearing
bright-yellow sneakers,
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like, neon,
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and a hoodie
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with some kind
of symbol on the back.
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[low ominous music]
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- What station is that?
- 86th Street,
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one stop before the one
where Joyner's body was found.
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Okay, but we can't
see his face, though.
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Can you find another angle?
- This is all we've got.
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Can you zoom in on that?
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Wait a second.
I've seen that logo before.
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♪ ♪
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[rock music playing]
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This place opened up
about a year ago.
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Been peppering
my neighborhood with flyers.
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Mixed martial arts
is the future, huh?
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Yeah, maybe
this is where our killer
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learned to strangle people.
- 'Sup? How you doing?
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Uh, yeah, we'd like
to talk to the owner.
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Is he here?
- Dom?
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Um, you just missed him.
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He left, like, two minutes ago.
- Is that him?
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♪ ♪
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Yep.
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I see it.
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You know when
he's gonna be back?
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He was getting a cab
to the airport.
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Did he say where
he was going?
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I want to say Toronto.
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Which way did he go?
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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Vince.
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♪ ♪
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[whistles]
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Hey!
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Hey, NYPD.
Mr. Kovac, NYPD.
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- Hey.
- Hey!
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- Do not move!
- NYPD!
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- Do you hear me? Do not move!
- NYPD!
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I didn't know
you guys were cops.
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Yeah, you just treat
everybody that way?
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- Treat Ellis Joyner that way?
- I don't know who that is.
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He was choked to death
two nights ago in the subway.
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That ringing a bell?
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Okay, tough guy,
you're coming with us.
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Get up.
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I've never seen
this guy before in my life.
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You know, Domhnall,
we are aware
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of your four previous
convictions for assault,
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all against Black victims,
two charged as hate crimes.
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Clocked that tattoo on you--
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the combat boots with the "88."
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That's a white nationalist
symbol.
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So what happened?
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You see a Black guy
on the train,
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decided to take him out?
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I didn't do
anything to anyone.
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[bangs on table]
Hey.
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I'm the one talking to you.
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Fine.
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I'll tell you, then.
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I had nothing to do
with what happened to that guy.
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Where were you around
midnight night before last?
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- Chelsea, working out.
- You work out at that hour?
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I run
an intensive training program
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for some guys at the gym.
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I call it the Combat Academy.
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I base it on the Navy SEALs
training course.
261
00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,070
So, once a week, we do
a late-night endurance run.
262
00:11:37,070 --> 00:11:38,740
And when did
this endurance run end?
263
00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,240
Around midnight.
264
00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,570
Okay, so you go
on your little fun run.
265
00:11:42,570 --> 00:11:45,120
Then you get on the subway,
and you kill Ellis Joyner.
266
00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,910
I was never on the subway.
267
00:11:46,910 --> 00:11:48,830
We have you on video.
268
00:11:48,830 --> 00:11:52,290
You can make out
this sweatshirt
269
00:11:52,290 --> 00:11:54,580
and those sneakers
clear as day.
270
00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:56,880
These are part
of the Combat Academy uniform.
271
00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,340
Every member has them.
272
00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,340
Look, fellas,
I'm trying to tell you--
273
00:12:02,340 --> 00:12:05,050
after the run was over, I went
to my girlfriend's apartment.
274
00:12:05,050 --> 00:12:07,100
She lives a few blocks away.
275
00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:09,970
You can check with her doorman.
276
00:12:09,970 --> 00:12:12,390
All right, and would you
be willing to submit
277
00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:14,690
to a DNA swab?
278
00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:15,810
Fine.
279
00:12:15,810 --> 00:12:17,110
We're also gonna need
the names
280
00:12:17,110 --> 00:12:20,110
of every member
of your Combat Academy
281
00:12:20,110 --> 00:12:21,530
that was there that night.
282
00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:25,490
♪ ♪
283
00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:31,750
[school bell rings]
- All right. See you guys.
284
00:12:33,460 --> 00:12:36,330
- Brandon Arnou?
- Yes?
285
00:12:36,330 --> 00:12:39,050
NYPD, we need to talk
to you for a minute.
286
00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:41,300
Uh, yeah, of course.
Is something wrong?
287
00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:43,970
- We're investigating a murder.
- A murder?
288
00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:45,430
Are you a member
289
00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:46,800
of Domhnall Kovac's
Combat Academy?
290
00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,260
Uh, yes. Why?
291
00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:50,930
Did you attend
his midnight training session
292
00:12:50,930 --> 00:12:51,980
three nights ago?
293
00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:54,640
Um, I-I did.
294
00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,230
I did, yeah.
295
00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:58,150
Yeah, I'm trying
to get back into shape.
296
00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:59,900
My wife left me
last year, and I--
297
00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:02,570
You--you don't need
to know all that. [chuckles]
298
00:13:02,570 --> 00:13:05,160
You ride the subway home
after that?
299
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,990
Uh, no.
300
00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:08,530
- Really?
- Mm-mm.
301
00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:10,160
'Cause we noticed that your
apartment's a straight shot
302
00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,950
on the C train from Chelsea.
303
00:13:11,950 --> 00:13:14,160
Yeah, well,
I-I-I ran home,
304
00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,830
trying to push myself,
you know?
305
00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:18,340
How did you get that lip?
306
00:13:18,340 --> 00:13:20,380
Oh, uh, grappling training.
307
00:13:20,380 --> 00:13:21,800
Took an elbow to the face.
[chuckles]
308
00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,590
Would you be willing
to submit to a DNA swab,
309
00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:27,680
just to eliminate you
as a suspect?
310
00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:29,800
Uh...
311
00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,510
[sighs]
312
00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:35,390
Look, it was an accident.
- What was an accident?
313
00:13:35,390 --> 00:13:37,480
That man was attacking
a woman on the subway.
314
00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,400
I-I was just trying
to protect her.
315
00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,530
I know I should have told
someone, but I panicked.
316
00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:45,610
Are you admitting
to killing Ellis Joyner?
317
00:13:45,610 --> 00:13:48,070
[dramatic music]
318
00:13:48,070 --> 00:13:50,160
Look, I didn't mean to.
319
00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,830
- Okay.
- I-I was just trying to help.
320
00:13:51,830 --> 00:13:53,870
Hands behind your back.
321
00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:55,830
We're gonna walk
out of here nice and slow.
322
00:13:55,830 --> 00:13:57,290
Here we go.
323
00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,130
Detectives, what is
the holdup here?
324
00:14:01,130 --> 00:14:04,260
My client has explained to you
what happened several times.
325
00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:06,930
Yeah, we really appreciate
your cooperation, too.
326
00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:08,840
He has nothing to hide.
327
00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,060
Arnou, so that woman that you
say Ellis Joyner attacked,
328
00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:14,100
the one you claim
to have rescued,
329
00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:15,930
she was dressed like
a dancer, yeah?
330
00:14:15,930 --> 00:14:17,390
Yeah, she was wearing tights,
331
00:14:17,390 --> 00:14:21,270
and her hair was
in a, uh, ball, you know?
332
00:14:21,270 --> 00:14:23,110
Thing is, we checked
the surveillance footage
333
00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:24,480
from the train platforms,
334
00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,440
and we didn't find anybody
meeting that description.
335
00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,200
I'm telling you,
she was there.
336
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,870
Were the cameras working
at every station?
337
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:33,790
We also executed
a search warrant in your home.
338
00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:35,120
Didn't find anything.
339
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,040
Yeah, well, of course not.
What would you find?
340
00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,170
Mm. Yeah, but, see,
then we got a search warrant
341
00:14:40,170 --> 00:14:41,630
for your gym locker.
342
00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:43,880
That's where we found
something really interesting.
343
00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,550
Ellis Joyner's cell phone,
but you knew that...
344
00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:50,090
because you stole it from him
right after you killed him,
345
00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:51,260
and we know why.
346
00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:52,600
Because right after
you attacked him,
347
00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,390
he started recording you,
didn't he?
348
00:14:54,390 --> 00:14:56,350
And, see, what you don't know
about Black people is,
349
00:14:56,350 --> 00:14:58,640
we can never be too careful
'cause we don't know
350
00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,100
who's gonna try to paint us out
to be the bad guy.
351
00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,060
So we watched that video,
352
00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:05,030
and we listened to it,
and we did not see any woman.
353
00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:06,740
But what we did see is that--
354
00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:10,110
Don't say another word.
355
00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:11,660
This interview's over.
356
00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:15,790
♪ ♪
357
00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:18,040
What do you think?
358
00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040
It's a tough call.
359
00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,460
He admits to killing Joyner,
360
00:15:21,460 --> 00:15:24,460
but I'm not sure
we have enough to charge.
361
00:15:24,460 --> 00:15:26,960
So we have two choices.
362
00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,340
We can either cut him loose,
or we can arrest him.
363
00:15:30,340 --> 00:15:36,390
♪ ♪
364
00:15:36,390 --> 00:15:37,810
Arrest him.
365
00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:43,650
♪ ♪
366
00:15:43,650 --> 00:15:45,480
Brandon Arnou's
really captured
367
00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,610
the public's attention.
- Sure has.
368
00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:49,530
Half the city buys
Arnou's story--
369
00:15:49,530 --> 00:15:51,360
that he killed Joyner
in self-defense--
370
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,120
and the other half
sees white man
371
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,830
killing an unarmed Black man.
372
00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:59,200
It's a litmus test
for what people think
373
00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,540
or what they want to believe.
374
00:16:00,540 --> 00:16:02,670
Well, here's what I believe.
375
00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:05,290
Arnou held Joyner
in a choke hold
376
00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:07,670
for a long time
after he was unconscious.
377
00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:09,840
Even if he was acting
in self-defense
378
00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,170
at the start of all this,
379
00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:12,930
it eventually turned
into a homicide.
380
00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:14,340
And we have video
that supports that?
381
00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:15,640
Uh, sort of.
382
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,310
Seconds after Joyner
pulled out his phone
383
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:18,350
to record the incident,
384
00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:20,430
Arnou knocked it
out of his hands.
385
00:16:20,430 --> 00:16:23,190
Then the phone landed
on the ground lens down.
386
00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:24,400
Visually, it's just black.
387
00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,440
But it kept recording,
so there's audio.
388
00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,230
You can hear Arnou get Joyner
into the choke hold.
389
00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:31,530
Joyner repeatedly says
he can't breathe.
390
00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:33,740
And after that,
the tape goes silent.
391
00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:35,870
- Because Joyner passed out.
- That's what it seems like.
392
00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:36,950
After he goes quiet,
393
00:16:36,950 --> 00:16:39,200
there's three minutes
of total silence
394
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,410
before Arnou gets off him.
395
00:16:40,410 --> 00:16:41,960
You're saying
that he kept Joyner
396
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,670
in a choke hold
for three full minutes
397
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:45,250
after he seemed
to have passed out?
398
00:16:45,250 --> 00:16:46,840
Mm-hmm, and Arnou
picks up the phone,
399
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,800
realizes it's been recording,
and then stops it.
400
00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,800
But the phone must've locked.
- Which is why Arnou took it.
401
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,510
He realized it would upload
to the cloud,
402
00:16:53,510 --> 00:16:54,630
so he wanted to delete it.
403
00:16:54,630 --> 00:16:56,680
Search history
on Arnou's laptop
404
00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,760
shows that he was trying
to figure out
405
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,470
how to access a phone
without a passcode.
406
00:17:00,470 --> 00:17:02,480
Obviously knew
the video was damning.
407
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,560
So what's the next move?
What are you thinking?
408
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,690
We have a solid case
for manslaughter.
409
00:17:07,690 --> 00:17:09,440
Whether you believe
Arnou's account or not,
410
00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,070
there--there's no question
he used excessive force.
411
00:17:12,070 --> 00:17:13,320
Manslaughter?
412
00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,030
You just told me
he choked him out
413
00:17:15,030 --> 00:17:17,070
for three minutes after
he was already unconscious.
414
00:17:17,070 --> 00:17:20,700
Correct, but Arnou claims
he was trying to help someone.
415
00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:22,410
He was trying
to protect a young woman.
416
00:17:22,410 --> 00:17:25,370
That woman we haven't been
able to identify.
417
00:17:25,370 --> 00:17:27,420
This isn't manslaughter,
Nolan.
418
00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:29,630
This is depraved indifference
to human life.
419
00:17:29,630 --> 00:17:31,090
You want to charge him
with murder?
420
00:17:31,090 --> 00:17:33,970
Absolutely.
We need to make a statement.
421
00:17:33,970 --> 00:17:35,800
The facts are tricky.
422
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,930
Arnou claims he was trying
to save a woman's life,
423
00:17:37,930 --> 00:17:40,350
not to mention he has
no history of violence.
424
00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:41,600
I understand.
425
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,190
But this is George Floyd
all over again.
426
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,100
And I'm sure as hell
not gonna end up
427
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:48,440
on the wrong side of it.
428
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,230
Charge him with murder two.
429
00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:01,410
- [grunting]
- [gasping]
430
00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:07,040
I can't breathe.
431
00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,460
- [grunting]
- I can't breathe.
432
00:18:11,210 --> 00:18:12,590
[gasps]
433
00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:15,760
[train rattling]
434
00:18:20,510 --> 00:18:22,810
[object clatters]
435
00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:25,350
[breathing heavily]
436
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:26,810
Oh, my God.
437
00:18:30,690 --> 00:18:34,110
Dr. Infante, could you
explain what we just heard?
438
00:18:34,110 --> 00:18:36,190
Once the air supply
has been cut off,
439
00:18:36,190 --> 00:18:39,320
it takes about five minutes
for brain death to occur--
440
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,240
half that time
for an asthmatic.
441
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,370
The body goes through
severe seizure-like activity
442
00:18:44,370 --> 00:18:46,080
with convulsions.
443
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,040
And once enough pressure was
applied to the carotid artery,
444
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,170
the victim would have lost
consciousness.
445
00:18:51,170 --> 00:18:53,420
Which accounts
for the last three minutes
446
00:18:53,420 --> 00:18:54,840
when there were no sounds
of a struggle?
447
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:55,960
Yes.
448
00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,260
Meaning after
those first few minutes,
449
00:18:58,260 --> 00:18:59,760
Ellis Joyner no longer posed
450
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,510
a lethal threat
to the defendant?
451
00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:03,560
In my professional
opinion, no.
452
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,230
And--and yet,
for three full minutes,
453
00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:11,150
the defendant
just continued to choke him.
454
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:15,070
Thank you, Doctor.
No further questions.
455
00:19:15,070 --> 00:19:17,900
[chair scrapes]
456
00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,110
Dr. Infante, isn't it true
457
00:19:20,110 --> 00:19:22,410
that the surge
of adrenaline caused
458
00:19:22,410 --> 00:19:24,910
by a life-or-death
confrontation
459
00:19:24,910 --> 00:19:27,950
can distort not only
one's sense of time
460
00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:31,330
but also an awareness
of one's surroundings?
461
00:19:31,330 --> 00:19:33,710
It's possible.
462
00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:36,130
Would you characterize
such a response as reasonable?
463
00:19:36,130 --> 00:19:39,340
I would say
it's not uncommon.
464
00:19:39,340 --> 00:19:43,180
So you're saying it is
both possible and reasonable
465
00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:46,970
that in the confusion
and panic of the moment,
466
00:19:46,970 --> 00:19:49,730
Brandon Arnou did not realize
467
00:19:49,730 --> 00:19:52,810
that the man he believed
was trying to kill him
468
00:19:52,810 --> 00:19:55,270
had lost consciousness?
469
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:56,570
Yes.
470
00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:59,690
Thank you.
Nothing further.
471
00:20:03,030 --> 00:20:05,200
How long had you
and Ellis Joyner
472
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,240
been seeing each other?
473
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,000
About six months.
474
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,540
It wasn't
a storybook romance, but...
475
00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:14,540
it was the best six months
of my life.
476
00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:17,000
You were on the train
that night with Ellis, correct?
477
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,550
Yes, I got off
at 50th Street to go home.
478
00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:22,510
Did you interact
with the defendant at all
479
00:20:22,510 --> 00:20:23,890
while you were on the train?
480
00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:27,510
Yes, I caught him staring
at us a couple of times.
481
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:29,430
It was weird.
482
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:32,350
And when I got up
to get off, he...
483
00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:33,560
stepped in my way.
484
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,190
Intentionally?
485
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,520
Yeah, aggressively.
486
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,360
When I accidentally bumped
into him,
487
00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,860
he said, "Watch yourself,"
with this tone.
488
00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:46,620
- What kind of tone?
- A racist tone.
489
00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:49,620
Like, he might as well have
said, "Watch yourself, boy."
490
00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:52,120
Objection, Your Honor,
calls for speculation.
491
00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,080
The witness can't testify
to things my client didn't say.
492
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,250
Sustained.
493
00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:58,380
The jury will disregard.
494
00:20:58,380 --> 00:21:00,130
No further questions.
495
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:06,890
You claim
that Mr. Arnou was aggressive
496
00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:08,970
towards you, confrontational.
497
00:21:08,970 --> 00:21:10,470
He was.
498
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:15,150
But Mr. Arnou has no history
of violent behavior, none.
499
00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:16,480
So?
500
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,230
But you do, right?
501
00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:21,570
You were charged
with aggravated assault.
502
00:21:21,570 --> 00:21:23,360
Yeah, but that has
nothing to do
503
00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,070
with what happened that night.
504
00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:27,950
He was the aggressor.
- I see.
505
00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:32,250
And to be clear, you were not
a witness to the altercation
506
00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,580
between Ellis Joyner
and Mr. Arnou?
507
00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:37,630
- Correct.
- So you have no idea
508
00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,750
if Joyner attacked
that woman or not,
509
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:42,590
and you have no idea
if Mr. Arnou was,
510
00:21:42,590 --> 00:21:45,130
in fact, trying to help her.
511
00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:49,430
I wasn't there, but I know
he didn't attack that woman.
512
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:53,140
But you weren't there.
513
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,390
No further questions.
514
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:58,940
The witness may step down.
515
00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:00,940
Call your next witness,
Mr. Price.
516
00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:02,730
The prosecution rests.
517
00:22:02,730 --> 00:22:05,110
Mr. Kagan, you're up.
518
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:09,030
The defense calls
Rebecca Lasky.
519
00:22:09,030 --> 00:22:10,950
Objection, Your Honor,
unfair surprise.
520
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:12,450
This is the first
we are hearing
521
00:22:12,450 --> 00:22:13,950
of any witness by that name.
522
00:22:13,950 --> 00:22:16,710
That's because this witness
only just came forward.
523
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:21,380
♪ ♪
524
00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:26,760
Ms. Lasky, were you
on the C subway train
525
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,300
the night Ellis Joyner
was killed?
526
00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:32,640
Yes, I was there.
527
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,600
Did you witness
the altercation?
528
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,980
Yes, I did.
529
00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:40,230
Can you tell us
what happened?
530
00:22:42,110 --> 00:22:44,780
I entered the subway car
531
00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:48,320
and accidentally bumped
into Mr. Joyner,
532
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,860
and...
533
00:22:49,860 --> 00:22:53,280
he appeared to be
mentally disturbed in some way.
534
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,830
He kept making these aggressive
grunting noises.
535
00:22:57,830 --> 00:23:00,000
And then he lunged at me.
536
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,130
And then what happened?
537
00:23:02,130 --> 00:23:06,340
He reached into his pocket.
538
00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:10,930
I was scared he had a knife
or something, so I screamed.
539
00:23:10,930 --> 00:23:14,510
I screamed for help...
540
00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:16,810
and that man saved me.
541
00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:19,690
My client, Mr. Arnou?
542
00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:22,560
Yes, he grabbed Mr. Joyner,
543
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,480
and he pulled him away from me.
544
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,780
And then Joyner attacked him,
and they started fighting.
545
00:23:30,780 --> 00:23:32,990
I was terrified.
546
00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:35,490
If he hadn't been there...
547
00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:39,330
That man is a hero.
548
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:46,300
♪ ♪
549
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,350
[knock at door]
- Yep.
550
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480
Turns out there really was
a female witness.
551
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,150
- So I've heard.
- She was credible, too.
552
00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:04,560
Her testimony was compelling.
553
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Meaning what?
554
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,110
We should offer
a manslaughter plea.
555
00:24:08,110 --> 00:24:10,070
[scoffs] I'd be surprised
if they accepted it,
556
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:11,450
but it's worth a shot.
557
00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:14,280
But the audio-video clip
hasn't changed, correct?
558
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,160
- Excuse me?
- The clip where we hear
559
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,540
Mr. Joyner
begging for his life,
560
00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:21,870
where we hear Mr. Arnou
choking out
561
00:24:21,870 --> 00:24:24,500
an unconscious man
for a full three minutes.
562
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:27,000
That is correct.
That clip still exists.
563
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,170
But there is now more context
for it--
564
00:24:29,170 --> 00:24:31,090
context that is not
in our favor.
565
00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:33,340
But just because
a white woman saw Joyner
566
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:35,680
as a threat
doesn't make it true.
567
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,560
Like I said,
her testimony was credible.
568
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,350
The jury seemed
to respond quite favorably.
569
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:43,020
But the witness
wasn't actually there
570
00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:44,230
when the murder took place.
571
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:46,400
She left before
the fight ended, right?
572
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,360
That's why she didn't show up
in the video.
573
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:51,650
- Mm-hmm.
- So make that clear, Nolan.
574
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,410
Remind them that Ms. Lasky
wasn't present
575
00:24:56,410 --> 00:24:59,490
when the defendant choked
the life out of Mr. Joyner.
576
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,420
Ms. Lasky, you weren't
actually present
577
00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:13,470
when the defendant strangled
Ellis Joyner to death, correct?
578
00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:16,640
No, the train stopped
while they were still fighting,
579
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,260
and I got off.
580
00:25:19,260 --> 00:25:21,520
But I saw the start
of the fight.
581
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,770
I saw Mr. Arnou grab Joyner
by the arm
582
00:25:24,770 --> 00:25:27,150
and pull him away from me.
583
00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:31,070
And then I saw Joyner
elbow him in the face.
584
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:34,820
Right, because Mr. Joyner
was terrified.
585
00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:37,870
From his perspective, he was
the one fighting for his life.
586
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:40,370
I don't know.
587
00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:43,540
It all happened really fast.
588
00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:46,620
And they were yelling
at each other.
589
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:50,920
And Mr. Arnou kept yelling
at him to stop, to surrender,
590
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,670
and that he was bleeding,
591
00:25:52,670 --> 00:25:55,510
and he was dirty--
592
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:58,970
or fighting dirty.
593
00:25:58,970 --> 00:26:02,890
I don't really remember
the exact words.
594
00:26:02,890 --> 00:26:04,730
But Joyner didn't listen.
595
00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:07,650
He reached into his pocket.
596
00:26:07,650 --> 00:26:10,820
It looked like he was trying
to grab a knife.
597
00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:12,820
So Mr. Arnou tackled him,
598
00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:15,780
and they started wrestling.
599
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:18,570
That's when the train stopped,
and I got off.
600
00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:20,330
Just got off?
601
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:22,740
You didn't tell anyone
what was happening?
602
00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:24,450
I wasn't thinking straight.
603
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,170
Everything was
happening at once.
604
00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:30,210
[sighs] When the doors opened,
I ran out to look
605
00:26:30,210 --> 00:26:33,050
for someone to tell,
like a cop or something.
606
00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:35,800
But the subway station
was empty.
607
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,090
Then the doors closed,
and the train took off.
608
00:26:38,090 --> 00:26:42,510
So that means you weren't
there during the three minutes
609
00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:44,430
that Ellis Joyner
was unconscious
610
00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:45,980
and the defendant continued
611
00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:48,480
to choke the life
out of his body?
612
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,440
No, but, like I said,
I thought he had a knife.
613
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,480
I'm sure Mr. Arnou did, too.
614
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,990
Did you actually see a knife?
615
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:59,160
No, but--
616
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,530
Did you see a weapon
of any kind?
617
00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:07,040
- No.
- And you had no idea
618
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,130
that Ellis Joyner
was severely asthmatic?
619
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:12,630
I didn't at the time.
620
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:15,340
Mr. Joyner had been
in an altercation
621
00:27:15,340 --> 00:27:16,920
with a fellow comic that night,
622
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,680
then a fraught, verbal argument
with his boyfriend.
623
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,760
High-stress situations
can trigger an asthma attack.
624
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Ellis Joyner was having
an asthma attack.
625
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,520
He wasn't acting aggressively,
nor was he mentally ill.
626
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,530
He was simply having
an asthma attack,
627
00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,530
and you misinterpreted
his behavior.
628
00:27:38,530 --> 00:27:42,320
You saw a scary Black man
making a noise--
629
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,030
- Objection.
- Sustained.
630
00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:48,410
[soft tense music]
631
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,250
[sighs]
632
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:52,540
♪ ♪
633
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:54,880
Mr. Joyner's behavior
that night was consistent
634
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,420
with someone suffering
from an asthma attack, correct?
635
00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:04,180
Yes, I suppose.
636
00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:08,980
And if that's what it was...
637
00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,640
I feel terrible.
638
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,360
Then...
639
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,900
this whole thing i-is...
640
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:21,650
it's all my fault.
641
00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:23,370
But either way,
642
00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:26,160
Mr. Arnou came to my defense.
643
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,200
♪ ♪
644
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,000
He tried to help me,
645
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,250
and he shouldn't be held
responsible.
646
00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:41,220
♪ ♪
647
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,550
She made a strong case that
Arnou is not the one to blame.
648
00:28:44,550 --> 00:28:45,890
Yeah.
649
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:48,100
What do you think
about what Lasky said in there,
650
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,230
that, uh, bit about Arnou
saying something
651
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:51,640
about blood and dirt?
652
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,900
Oh, I-I don't know what
to make of it. Why?
653
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:55,940
Do you think it's possible
he was saying something
654
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:58,780
about "blood and soil"?
655
00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:01,530
- That's a Nazi slogan.
- Exactly.
656
00:29:01,530 --> 00:29:04,200
It's the new battle cry
of white nationalist groups.
657
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,530
You think Arnou is
a white supremacist?
658
00:29:06,530 --> 00:29:07,830
Yeah, I-I don't know.
659
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:09,700
I'm--I'm just trying
to understand
660
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:11,620
why he was saying
"blood and dirt."
661
00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:14,370
We interviewed his neighbors,
his coworkers.
662
00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:16,170
None of them reported anything
that would suggest--
663
00:29:16,170 --> 00:29:20,710
What about where he trains,
the, uh, Kovac Academy?
664
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:21,720
What about it?
665
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,550
Detectives interviewed
the owner.
666
00:29:23,550 --> 00:29:26,260
He has ties to a few white
nationalist organizations.
667
00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:29,560
Check it out.
668
00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:35,810
I already told you.
I don't know Arnou too well.
669
00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:38,940
I just have a few questions.
It won't take long, promise.
670
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:42,190
[grunts]
Fine, what do you want to know?
671
00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:44,150
Have you ever heard him
say something
672
00:29:44,150 --> 00:29:47,660
that might be interpreted
as racist?
673
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:49,870
I'm sorry,
but I can't help you.
674
00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:53,250
You can't,
or you don't want to?
675
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:58,540
I'm closing up, so...
676
00:29:58,540 --> 00:30:02,170
You're aware that Arnou is
on trial for murder?
677
00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:04,010
I am.
678
00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:10,930
♪ ♪
679
00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:16,020
Hold up.
680
00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:22,230
♪ ♪
681
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:25,740
Look, I can't get
into the details, but...
682
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:30,160
let's just say you're heading
down the right path.
683
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,830
"Right path"? What the hell
is that supposed to mean?
684
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:36,120
Like I said,
I can't help you.
685
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,710
Why not?
686
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:40,170
Because it would blow
my cover.
687
00:30:40,170 --> 00:30:42,800
♪ ♪
688
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,170
You're a cop?
689
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,140
Nick, good to see you.
690
00:30:56,430 --> 00:30:57,810
How you doing, Robin?
691
00:30:57,810 --> 00:30:59,600
- Thanks for coming down.
- Of course.
692
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,820
Um, this is Carol Oberlin.
693
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:05,490
She's our Deputy Commissioner
of Counterterrorism.
694
00:31:05,490 --> 00:31:06,990
- Glad to meet you.
- Likewise.
695
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:10,120
I understand you stumbled on
to our undercover operation.
696
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,910
We did.
697
00:31:11,910 --> 00:31:14,450
And, fortunately, a detective
of yours has information
698
00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:17,120
pertinent to a murder
we're prosecuting.
699
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,620
Uh, that's great.
700
00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:21,040
But, uh, let us get you
up to speed
701
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,170
on what it is
we're actually investigating,
702
00:31:23,170 --> 00:31:24,500
give you a sense
703
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,420
of the scope of what
we're dealing with here.
704
00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:28,010
Please.
- Okay.
705
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,430
We've actually had our eye
on Kovac for a while now.
706
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:35,810
His gym is an "active club,"
707
00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:37,600
part of
an international network
708
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,770
of white supremacist
sleeper cells,
709
00:31:39,770 --> 00:31:42,730
all fronting
as small MMA-style gyms.
710
00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:44,610
How big a network
are we talking about?
711
00:31:44,610 --> 00:31:47,280
So far, we've identified
over 30 active clubs
712
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,900
across 9 different states
713
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:50,950
and several provinces
of Canada.
714
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:52,200
So how do they work?
715
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,240
The clubs operate
as recruitment centers.
716
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,370
They lure in young white men
under the guise of getting fit,
717
00:31:57,370 --> 00:32:01,040
while indoctrinating them
in racist ideology
718
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,540
and training them
in military combat.
719
00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:05,710
- They're building an army.
- They're trying to.
720
00:32:05,710 --> 00:32:07,710
It's the new face of hate.
721
00:32:07,710 --> 00:32:10,470
No more white sheets
or burning crosses.
722
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,550
They've adapted
and created a façade
723
00:32:12,550 --> 00:32:15,060
to mask their racist beliefs.
724
00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:17,180
But we need
your undercover's testimony
725
00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:21,060
to secure a conviction
against one of their members.
726
00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:24,360
Detective Fields
has spent nine months
727
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,860
embedding himself
in this community.
728
00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:28,900
All that goes out the window
if he testifies.
729
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:32,110
I get that, but we're talking
about murder here.
730
00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:34,780
We're not trying to step
on your toes here, Nick,
731
00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:36,950
but we poured a lot
of resources
732
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:38,750
and manpower
into this operation.
733
00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:40,580
The stakes are pretty high.
734
00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:43,380
We've recently received
credible intel
735
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,460
that Kovac is now
stockpiling firearms
736
00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:48,510
and explosive materials.
737
00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,470
These men are terrorists.
738
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:53,760
They're capable
of significant violence.
739
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Are you asking me
for a favor?
740
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,140
I'm suggesting you take
a big-picture view
741
00:33:00,140 --> 00:33:01,520
of the situation.
742
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,520
[dramatic music]
743
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,730
♪ ♪
744
00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:08,610
We'd greatly appreciate it.
745
00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:14,160
♪ ♪
746
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160
- They're planning an attack?
- Against who?
747
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,290
It appears to be some sort
of coordinated effort
748
00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:22,410
along the lines of
the January 6th insurrection,
749
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:26,170
only more violent and without
advanced warning this time.
750
00:33:26,170 --> 00:33:29,000
This only underscores
how dangerous Arnou is.
751
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,590
Uh, the jury needs to know
he's part of this organization.
752
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:32,920
But exposing the undercover
753
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,140
would blow up
the whole investigation.
754
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:37,680
He's the only asset
they have on the inside.
755
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,930
But Ellis Joyner was murdered
756
00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:43,100
most likely
because he was Black.
757
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,810
He deserves justice.
- I couldn't agree more.
758
00:33:45,810 --> 00:33:48,270
All I'm saying is,
we can't call the undercover
759
00:33:48,270 --> 00:33:50,030
as a witness.
760
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,940
It's for the greater good.
761
00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:56,280
Oh, the greater good, right.
762
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,950
Thank God for that phrase.
763
00:33:58,950 --> 00:34:01,080
Excuse me?
[Nolan sighs]
764
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Helps justify a lot
765
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,500
of otherwise
unjustifiable positions.
766
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,000
You're a terrific
prosecutor, Nolan.
767
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
You're just gonna have
to find another way
768
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,880
to make clear to the jury
that Arnou is racist.
769
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:21,850
Mr. Kovac,
770
00:34:21,850 --> 00:34:25,440
you were Brandon Arnou's
personal trainer, correct?
771
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,190
Yes.
772
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:28,940
You two spend a lot
of time together?
773
00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:31,020
About five hours a week.
774
00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:33,110
Would you say
you were friendly?
775
00:34:33,110 --> 00:34:35,490
Not really.
We worked out together.
776
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:38,110
- Five hours a week?
- Yes.
777
00:34:38,110 --> 00:34:41,990
You and the defendant
ever discuss racial ideology?
778
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:44,000
I don't know what that means.
779
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,750
Did you ever discuss
racial purity,
780
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:48,540
uh, interracial marriage,
781
00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:50,500
the role
that Black people should
782
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,210
or shouldn't play in society?
783
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:55,010
I don't know
what you're talking about.
784
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:56,880
Permission to treat the
witness as hostile, Your Honor?
785
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Permission granted.
786
00:35:00,470 --> 00:35:03,390
You have a tattoo
on your arm, the number 88.
787
00:35:03,390 --> 00:35:05,850
It's a neo-Nazi symbol,
isn't it?
788
00:35:05,850 --> 00:35:08,440
I don't know.
I just like the number 88.
789
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,980
So you don't have a problem
with Black people?
790
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:12,940
- No.
- Even though you have
791
00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:15,990
four prior battery convictions,
792
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:18,320
all for assaulting Black men,
793
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,240
two that were charged
as hate crimes, correct?
794
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:23,580
It was a long time ago.
795
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:25,870
Even though your bio
796
00:35:25,870 --> 00:35:28,080
in your various
social-media accounts
797
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,710
contains the phrase
"blood and soil"?
798
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:31,920
Objection, relevance.
799
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,920
Rebecca Lasky testified
she overheard
800
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,090
the defendant utter something
about blood and dirt.
801
00:35:37,090 --> 00:35:39,050
She was likely referring
to the defendant's use
802
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:41,590
of the phrase "blood and soil,"
a racial dog whist--
803
00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:45,430
Objection, Ms. Lasky never
mentioned the word "soil."
804
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:47,310
Her recollection was vague.
805
00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:49,730
We have a right
to raise the possibility.
806
00:35:49,730 --> 00:35:51,940
I agree.
Overruled.
807
00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:54,150
You may proceed, Mr. Price.
808
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:56,400
Isn't it true
that "blood and soil"
809
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,900
is a Nazi reference
810
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,610
to a racially uniform society?
811
00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:03,410
It means you're proud
of who you are
812
00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:04,660
and where you come from.
813
00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:09,120
And for you,
that means being white.
814
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080
♪ ♪
815
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,130
Yes.
816
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:16,340
♪ ♪
817
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,840
You taught the defendant
how to fight, correct?
818
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,590
- Yes.
- Teach him how to put someone
819
00:36:20,590 --> 00:36:22,840
in a choke hold?
- Yes.
820
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,560
Did you teach the defendant
to hate Black people?
821
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,810
Objection!
822
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:28,730
Withdrawn.
823
00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:30,690
Nothing further.
824
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:37,320
Mr. Kovac, did you ever
discuss race with Mr. Arnou?
825
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,400
No.
826
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,490
Have you ever heard
Mr. Arnou say
827
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,450
"blood and soil"?
- No.
828
00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:46,700
Ellis Joyner was 6'2"
and weighed 210 pounds,
829
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,910
50 pounds more than Mr. Arnou.
830
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:53,250
As a self-defense expert,
do you think it was reasonable
831
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:54,790
for Mr. Arnou
832
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:58,460
to believe Joyner posed
a lethal threat?
833
00:36:58,460 --> 00:36:59,710
Absolutely.
834
00:36:59,710 --> 00:37:02,300
Thank you.
835
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,840
No further questions.
836
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,020
♪ ♪
837
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:12,310
Brandon Arnou is
an elementary-school teacher,
838
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:16,150
who's never gotten so much
as a speeding ticket.
839
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:18,360
He did not wake up
that morning
840
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,490
thinking about taking
another person's life.
841
00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:25,820
He did not get on that train
looking for a fight.
842
00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:30,500
But when he saw a fellow
citizen being attacked,
843
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,500
he stepped up.
844
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,420
He did something.
845
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:39,550
I live in Park Slope.
846
00:37:39,550 --> 00:37:43,010
I take the subway every day
to this courthouse,
847
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:47,510
and I take it home every night.
848
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:50,100
And I pray...
849
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:54,060
that if something
were ever to happen,
850
00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:58,360
someone like Brandon Arnou...
851
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,940
is on that train with me.
852
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:08,070
Rebecca Lasky
heard the defendant
853
00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:11,620
screaming something
about blood and dirt.
854
00:38:11,620 --> 00:38:13,540
Most likely
855
00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:16,580
what he was screaming
was "blood and soil,"
856
00:38:16,580 --> 00:38:20,550
as a phrase that speaks
to a declaration of hatred
857
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:23,970
for all people of color.
858
00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:26,970
Ask yourself why.
859
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:30,890
People like Mr. Arnou keep
their bigotry buttoned up.
860
00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:33,390
They only discuss it
861
00:38:33,390 --> 00:38:36,640
with people they know share
their hateful worldview.
862
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,940
They rely
on plausible deniability,
863
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:42,820
because if the racism
isn't overt,
864
00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:45,820
many people,
865
00:38:45,820 --> 00:38:49,030
many good people are
all too happy
866
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:51,080
to assume it isn't there.
867
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,210
Except that,
every once in a while,
868
00:38:55,210 --> 00:39:00,040
in moments
of panic or--or anger...
869
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
their mask will slip,
870
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,510
and their true nature
is exposed.
871
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:07,510
♪ ♪
872
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:12,100
Ellis Joyner was an innocent,
unarmed Black man,
873
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,100
suffering a medical emergency.
874
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,390
And the two white people
on that train with him
875
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:20,900
assumed he was
a violent threat,
876
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,440
and they attacked him.
877
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,110
The defendant
may not have entered the fight
878
00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:28,410
with the intention to kill,
879
00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:31,410
but at some point,
his focus shifted,
880
00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,740
and his racial hate
began to manifest.
881
00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:35,330
That moment
882
00:39:35,330 --> 00:39:39,000
was when the victim,
Ellis Joyner, passed out,
883
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,250
when he was no longer a threat
to Mr. Arnou.
884
00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:43,800
And rather than
release Mr. Joyner,
885
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,920
Arnou continued to choke him
886
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,130
for three minutes.
887
00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:53,470
That is when
his true colors emerged.
888
00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:55,810
That...
889
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,890
is when he murdered
Ellis Joyner.
890
00:39:59,890 --> 00:40:07,070
♪ ♪
891
00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:12,910
Mr. Foreperson,
has the jury reached a verdict?
892
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:14,580
We have, Your Honor.
893
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:19,160
In the charge of murder
in the second degree,
894
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,830
we find the defendant,
Brandon Arnou,
895
00:40:21,830 --> 00:40:23,170
not guilty.
896
00:40:23,170 --> 00:40:24,920
[crowd gasps, groans, cheers]
- What the--
897
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,670
Yeah, baby.
898
00:40:26,670 --> 00:40:29,970
Members of the jury,
we thank you for your service.
899
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:37,140
♪ ♪
900
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,820
Tough case,
but you did a hell of a job.
901
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:49,900
Thanks.
[sighs]
902
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,360
It might have gone
differently if I--
903
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,740
if I didn't have one hand
tied behind my back.
904
00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:57,790
We did the best
that we could.
905
00:40:57,790 --> 00:41:00,040
No, we could
have done better.
906
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,170
We just chose not to,
for the greater good.
907
00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:06,840
I stand by my decision.
908
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,880
Hey! There he is.
909
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,050
And one day soon,
910
00:41:11,050 --> 00:41:13,550
when we take
these bastards down
911
00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:16,810
and roll up their whole damn
racist organization,
912
00:41:16,810 --> 00:41:20,390
you're gonna realize it was
the right decision as well.
913
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:23,650
[indistinct chatter, laughter]
914
00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:27,070
♪ ♪
915
00:41:27,070 --> 00:41:29,730
Ellis Joyner deserved better.
916
00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:33,610
♪ ♪
917
00:41:33,610 --> 00:41:36,160
- All right, man.
- All right, man, come on.
918
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:43,330
♪ ♪
919
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:24,620
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