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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,045 --> 00:00:05,005 [Narrator] It's a $131 billion global industry 2 00:00:06,789 --> 00:00:09,835 representing 1/3 of the entire snack market. 3 00:00:11,011 --> 00:00:13,187 Yet just a few decades ago, 4 00:00:13,317 --> 00:00:17,408 the frozen snack industry doesn't exist. 5 00:00:17,539 --> 00:00:20,281 Frozen food was pretty run-of-the-mill, 6 00:00:20,411 --> 00:00:22,196 kind of boring stuff. 7 00:00:22,326 --> 00:00:26,678 How do you make frozen food a compelling consumer product? 8 00:00:26,809 --> 00:00:28,419 Never say never. 9 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:30,421 [Narrator] Until a bold group of innovators- 10 00:00:30,552 --> 00:00:32,249 What if we push the edges down? 11 00:00:32,380 --> 00:00:34,556 It really was brand new territory 12 00:00:34,686 --> 00:00:36,340 for any food entrepreneur. 13 00:00:36,471 --> 00:00:38,299 [Narrator] Gamble everything. 14 00:00:38,429 --> 00:00:41,171 It was huge risk because it's their life savings. 15 00:00:41,302 --> 00:00:45,306 If you screw this up, you have now soiled your brand. 16 00:00:45,436 --> 00:00:47,569 [Narrator] And pushed the limits of technology. 17 00:00:47,699 --> 00:00:49,614 Making things crispy in the microwave 18 00:00:49,745 --> 00:00:52,356 was pretty much a foreign concept in the '70s. 19 00:00:52,487 --> 00:00:55,968 [Narrator] To help create a whole new sector of food. 20 00:00:56,099 --> 00:00:59,276 These were snack options that never existed 21 00:00:59,407 --> 00:01:01,931 before these incredible people invented them. 22 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:03,976 - What do you call them? - Jeno's Pizza Rolls. 23 00:01:04,107 --> 00:01:07,197 They started this idea of snack culture. 24 00:01:07,328 --> 00:01:11,071 [Narrator] That anyone could make in a matter of minutes. 25 00:01:11,201 --> 00:01:12,594 Hot Pockets were the perfect food 26 00:01:12,724 --> 00:01:14,465 for the dawn of the microwave era. 27 00:01:14,596 --> 00:01:16,032 [Narrator] Obliterating the traditional 28 00:01:16,163 --> 00:01:18,165 three square meals a day. 29 00:01:18,295 --> 00:01:21,385 They revolutionized not only what people eat, 30 00:01:21,516 --> 00:01:22,865 but when they eat it. 31 00:01:22,995 --> 00:01:24,214 [Narrator] By ushering in 32 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:28,175 some of the most iconic snack foods of all time. 33 00:01:28,305 --> 00:01:30,220 You still can't get McDonald's french fries 34 00:01:30,351 --> 00:01:32,179 in the freezer aisle, but you can get White Castle. 35 00:01:32,309 --> 00:01:33,354 It's impossible. 36 00:01:33,484 --> 00:01:34,659 Make it possible. 37 00:01:34,790 --> 00:01:36,357 This is a frozen food empire with hundreds 38 00:01:36,487 --> 00:01:38,185 of millions of dollars 39 00:01:38,315 --> 00:01:41,710 and it changed snacking around the world. 40 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:45,931 [dramatic music] 41 00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:05,125 [pensive music] 42 00:02:06,256 --> 00:02:08,476 [Narrator] In the early 1960s, 43 00:02:08,606 --> 00:02:10,478 a husband and wife team are trying 44 00:02:10,608 --> 00:02:12,828 to grow their small family restaurant. 45 00:02:14,569 --> 00:02:19,356 Jim and Rose Totino were both incredibly hard workers. 46 00:02:19,487 --> 00:02:20,575 This one actually needs a little bit more 47 00:02:20,705 --> 00:02:22,316 of the cheese, please. 48 00:02:22,446 --> 00:02:26,146 Rose Totino reminds me of the grandmothers 49 00:02:26,276 --> 00:02:29,540 of a lot of my friends that I grew up with back in Brooklyn. 50 00:02:29,671 --> 00:02:33,153 She's short, she's feisty, she's tough as nails, 51 00:02:33,283 --> 00:02:37,113 very talented in the kitchen, and full of delicious recipes. 52 00:02:37,244 --> 00:02:39,028 That can go over there. 53 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:40,595 To understand Rose Totino, 54 00:02:40,725 --> 00:02:43,293 you have to understand where Rose Totino came from. 55 00:02:44,903 --> 00:02:49,081 Her family really experienced abject poverty 56 00:02:49,212 --> 00:02:51,997 during the height of the Great Depression, 57 00:02:52,128 --> 00:02:57,089 so she started working at age 16 to provide for her family. 58 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:59,309 She is nobody's pushover. 59 00:03:00,441 --> 00:03:02,138 [Narrator] For the past decade, 60 00:03:02,269 --> 00:03:06,142 the Totinos have been clocking in grueling 18-hour days 61 00:03:06,273 --> 00:03:09,537 to serve steadily growing crowds their signature dish. 62 00:03:11,147 --> 00:03:14,324 They would sell hundreds of them a night on weekends, 63 00:03:14,455 --> 00:03:16,587 and they had to figure out how to keep up with the demand 64 00:03:16,718 --> 00:03:19,373 because they wanted bigger profits. 65 00:03:19,503 --> 00:03:22,289 [Narrator] Customers suggest they add more locations, 66 00:03:22,419 --> 00:03:25,640 however, that plan is not only too expensive, 67 00:03:25,770 --> 00:03:29,034 but their signature dish has yet to go mainstream. 68 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:33,125 [dramatic music] 69 00:03:33,256 --> 00:03:36,259 It's hard to imagine this, but in America, 70 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:38,566 most people didn't know what pizza was. 71 00:03:39,828 --> 00:03:41,743 Between 1880 and 1920, 72 00:03:41,873 --> 00:03:43,571 about four million Southern Italians 73 00:03:43,701 --> 00:03:45,007 came over to the United States 74 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:47,227 and brought with them the concept of pizza 75 00:03:47,357 --> 00:03:49,968 to the industrial cities of the northeastern United States. 76 00:03:50,099 --> 00:03:52,319 There were bars and Italian restaurants, 77 00:03:52,449 --> 00:03:54,756 but it's still very much an Italian product 78 00:03:54,886 --> 00:03:56,540 that most Americans didn't understand. 79 00:03:58,281 --> 00:03:59,674 [Narrator] The New York Times first mentions 80 00:03:59,804 --> 00:04:04,331 the dish in 1944, soon declaring that pizza 81 00:04:04,461 --> 00:04:06,985 could be as popular a snack as the hamburger 82 00:04:07,116 --> 00:04:08,944 if Americans only knew more about it. 83 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,991 After World War II, 84 00:04:13,122 --> 00:04:15,646 many soldiers stationed in Southern Italy 85 00:04:15,777 --> 00:04:18,345 returned home craving the exotic cuisine 86 00:04:18,475 --> 00:04:19,737 they'd tasted abroad. 87 00:04:21,522 --> 00:04:25,265 And the Totinos take notice, but they aren't the only ones. 88 00:04:27,354 --> 00:04:32,054 At the time, regional chains like Domino's and Pizza Hut 89 00:04:32,184 --> 00:04:35,318 were relatively small chains by no means national, 90 00:04:35,449 --> 00:04:38,234 but the Totinos saw pizza as something 91 00:04:38,365 --> 00:04:42,630 that shouldn't just be limited to niche audiences. 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,241 [Narrator] The Totinos think there might be an opportunity 93 00:04:45,372 --> 00:04:48,331 to dramatically increase their profit margins 94 00:04:48,462 --> 00:04:51,073 without expanding their restaurant. 95 00:04:51,203 --> 00:04:54,946 But to do this, they'll need to adapt their fresh pizza 96 00:04:55,077 --> 00:04:57,166 for a relatively new technology. 97 00:04:59,821 --> 00:05:01,692 During the first half of the 20th century, 98 00:05:01,823 --> 00:05:03,607 most people didn't have refrigerators at all. 99 00:05:03,738 --> 00:05:07,263 Then by 1950s, they got refrigerators, and by the '60s, 100 00:05:07,394 --> 00:05:08,656 most people had freezers. 101 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:12,442 [Narrator] With nearly 80% of American homes 102 00:05:12,573 --> 00:05:14,183 now owning a freezer, 103 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:17,969 the newly established frozen food market is taking off. 104 00:05:20,015 --> 00:05:23,279 Back then, the frozen food aisle was ice cream, 105 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:26,674 frozen meat, frozen vegetables, not much else. 106 00:05:28,197 --> 00:05:32,375 And because frozen foods need to be shelf stable 107 00:05:32,506 --> 00:05:35,073 other than the TV dinner, generally it was 108 00:05:35,204 --> 00:05:37,467 pretty run-of-the-mill, kind of boring stuff 109 00:05:37,598 --> 00:05:39,730 that my grandma might have made. 110 00:05:39,861 --> 00:05:42,342 We were eating stuff like liver and broccoli, 111 00:05:42,472 --> 00:05:43,604 the kind of food you might have seen 112 00:05:43,734 --> 00:05:45,997 on "Leave It to Beaver" or in old stock footage. 113 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:49,479 Frozen pizza, it just didn't exist. 114 00:05:49,610 --> 00:05:52,874 So the Totinos want to figure out how to make a pizza 115 00:05:54,397 --> 00:05:57,182 that you could then thaw and bake at home yourself. 116 00:05:57,313 --> 00:06:02,753 So the Totinos invested $50,000 of their own money 117 00:06:02,884 --> 00:06:06,278 to create it, but they weren't professional chefs 118 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:08,106 or food scientists. 119 00:06:08,237 --> 00:06:10,152 They didn't have a real understanding 120 00:06:10,282 --> 00:06:13,938 of how to industrially mass produce food products. 121 00:06:14,069 --> 00:06:16,550 It's kind of amazing to have that much faith 122 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,943 in yourself to take a risk that big. 123 00:06:19,074 --> 00:06:21,163 [tense music] 124 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:24,601 [Narrator] The Totinos don't know it, 125 00:06:24,732 --> 00:06:28,388 but their groundbreaking idea for an oven baked frozen pizza 126 00:06:28,518 --> 00:06:31,303 will lead to a $1 billion juggernaut 127 00:06:31,434 --> 00:06:34,829 for one of the top 10 largest food manufacturers 128 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:38,354 in the world, helping to popularize pizza 129 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:41,183 by bringing it into people's homes 130 00:06:41,313 --> 00:06:44,491 and kicking off what will become the $22 billion a year 131 00:06:44,621 --> 00:06:48,495 frozen pizza market, paving the way 132 00:06:48,625 --> 00:06:52,542 for the $131 billion frozen snack food industry. 133 00:06:55,502 --> 00:06:58,548 But first, they have to make it. 134 00:07:05,642 --> 00:07:07,992 [dramatic music] 135 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:10,734 You cannot just take a fresh pizza and freeze it. 136 00:07:10,865 --> 00:07:12,127 Ice crystals are gonna form. 137 00:07:12,257 --> 00:07:14,390 [tense music] 138 00:07:14,521 --> 00:07:16,827 The problem is there's a lot of different ingredients 139 00:07:16,958 --> 00:07:19,047 which all react differently when you bake it. 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,093 After cooking these frozen pizzas, 141 00:07:22,224 --> 00:07:24,531 sauce seeps into the dough. 142 00:07:24,661 --> 00:07:27,229 Still just soaked through with the sauce. 143 00:07:27,359 --> 00:07:29,361 The crust gets really soggy, 144 00:07:29,492 --> 00:07:30,406 [Rose sighs] 145 00:07:30,537 --> 00:07:32,800 which leads to a bit of a mess. 146 00:07:32,930 --> 00:07:34,889 [Jim sighs] - This will never work. 147 00:07:36,673 --> 00:07:39,763 After nine months, Rose and Jim Totino 148 00:07:39,894 --> 00:07:41,722 had lost their nest egg 149 00:07:41,852 --> 00:07:45,769 and got in the hole an additional $50,000. 150 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:47,728 [Narrator] Unless the Totinos can crack the code 151 00:07:47,858 --> 00:07:49,817 for a frozen pizza- 152 00:07:49,947 --> 00:07:51,253 Never say never, huh? 153 00:07:52,907 --> 00:07:55,170 [Narrator] They'll lose their entire life savings. 154 00:08:00,784 --> 00:08:02,873 [pensive music] 155 00:08:03,004 --> 00:08:05,963 A few hours away in Northern Minnesota, 156 00:08:06,094 --> 00:08:07,878 an ambitious food developer 157 00:08:08,009 --> 00:08:10,794 is looking for inspiration for his next product. 158 00:08:11,969 --> 00:08:14,189 Jeno Paulucci was a simple, 159 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:17,192 hardworking guy from Aurora, Minnesota. 160 00:08:17,322 --> 00:08:19,150 He actually started the food business 161 00:08:19,281 --> 00:08:22,763 when he was 16 years old as a fruit vendor. 162 00:08:24,373 --> 00:08:25,809 [Narrator] Despite being a first generation 163 00:08:25,940 --> 00:08:29,813 Italian American, Paulucci's first taste of success 164 00:08:29,944 --> 00:08:31,336 wasn't with Italian food. 165 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:35,863 Paulucci's Chun King company sells 166 00:08:35,993 --> 00:08:39,693 the first commercially available canned Chinese food 167 00:08:39,823 --> 00:08:41,695 that you can get in grocery stores 168 00:08:41,825 --> 00:08:44,915 at a time when Asian food wasn't as readily available 169 00:08:45,046 --> 00:08:47,091 as it is now by a long shot. 170 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:52,706 Paulucci sells chop suey, chow mein, and egg rolls. 171 00:08:52,836 --> 00:08:55,186 Even people who weren't familiar with Chinese food, 172 00:08:55,317 --> 00:08:56,971 it was their introduction to it. 173 00:08:58,407 --> 00:09:01,105 [Narrator] By 1962, his canned meal company 174 00:09:01,236 --> 00:09:03,978 was bringing in $30 million in annual revenue 175 00:09:05,370 --> 00:09:07,895 accounting for half of all US sales 176 00:09:08,025 --> 00:09:09,374 of prepared Chinese food. 177 00:09:11,246 --> 00:09:16,381 He eventually sells Chun King for $63 million 178 00:09:16,512 --> 00:09:22,039 to R.J. Reynolds, but he still has inspiration in the tank. 179 00:09:22,170 --> 00:09:26,174 Jeno is a tinkerer and he wanted to keep trying new things 180 00:09:26,304 --> 00:09:29,656 so it becomes a big launching pad to build his next thing. 181 00:09:31,353 --> 00:09:34,182 That next thing is unlike anything on the market. 182 00:09:36,619 --> 00:09:38,752 In the early part of the 20th century, 183 00:09:38,882 --> 00:09:40,754 most snacks were things like chips 184 00:09:40,884 --> 00:09:42,799 and cookies and dry goods, 185 00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:45,715 and Jeno Paulucci noticed there was opportunity 186 00:09:45,846 --> 00:09:47,978 to offer new products. 187 00:09:48,109 --> 00:09:50,328 We've always embraced this concept 188 00:09:50,459 --> 00:09:52,374 that you need three square meals a day, 189 00:09:52,504 --> 00:09:55,333 but that changed in the 1960s. 190 00:09:55,464 --> 00:09:57,771 A lot more women were joining the workforce, 191 00:09:57,901 --> 00:09:59,947 which meant less time for cooking, 192 00:10:00,077 --> 00:10:01,992 so a lot more people were grazing, 193 00:10:02,123 --> 00:10:03,515 meaning they just wanted kind of a light snack 194 00:10:03,646 --> 00:10:05,735 rather than a full sit down meal. 195 00:10:05,866 --> 00:10:09,217 But people love munching on cool and creative things, 196 00:10:09,347 --> 00:10:12,263 so you need to keep things fresh and inventive and exciting 197 00:10:12,394 --> 00:10:13,613 in the realm of snacking. 198 00:10:15,571 --> 00:10:17,965 [Narrator] So Paulucci is trying to put a new spin 199 00:10:18,095 --> 00:10:19,706 on one of his old company's products 200 00:10:21,577 --> 00:10:23,971 by making an egg roll bite-sized. 201 00:10:26,103 --> 00:10:27,365 [Ernie] He wanted to make egg rolls 202 00:10:27,496 --> 00:10:30,847 work for a larger audience. 203 00:10:30,978 --> 00:10:32,936 [Narrator] Dating back to Ancient China, 204 00:10:33,067 --> 00:10:36,026 the deep fried pastry cases with savory vegetables 205 00:10:36,157 --> 00:10:39,595 or meat inside gained popularity in America 206 00:10:39,726 --> 00:10:42,032 in the late 1930s 207 00:10:42,163 --> 00:10:44,121 when Chinese restaurants began serving them 208 00:10:44,252 --> 00:10:47,255 to customers in big cities. 209 00:10:47,385 --> 00:10:52,303 Now, Jeno believes he can take the side dish mainstream. 210 00:10:52,434 --> 00:10:55,132 He had an interest in fusion 211 00:10:55,263 --> 00:10:59,354 and didn't look at food as having to be in one lane. 212 00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:02,270 [Narrator] Paulucci doesn't know it, 213 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,099 but his idea for an oven baked snack 214 00:11:05,229 --> 00:11:09,364 will one day rake in $175 million in annual sales, 215 00:11:10,974 --> 00:11:12,976 sending him on a collision course 216 00:11:13,107 --> 00:11:14,978 with a future frozen food titan 217 00:11:16,197 --> 00:11:18,503 in a race to see whose name will be 218 00:11:18,634 --> 00:11:22,769 on one of the most popular frozen snacks of all time, 219 00:11:22,899 --> 00:11:24,945 Jeno's or Totino's. 220 00:11:31,255 --> 00:11:34,302 [Narrator] In the early 1960s, Jeno Paulucci is hoping 221 00:11:34,432 --> 00:11:37,479 to once again find success with an American audience 222 00:11:37,609 --> 00:11:39,699 by creating a brand new kind of snack, 223 00:11:41,004 --> 00:11:42,571 a bite-sized egg roll. 224 00:11:44,051 --> 00:11:45,487 The thing that people love about egg rolls 225 00:11:45,617 --> 00:11:46,575 is that they're crispy. 226 00:11:48,142 --> 00:11:51,711 That's the key signature element of an egg roll. 227 00:11:51,841 --> 00:11:54,017 After all, it's just a pocket with some kind of filling. 228 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:56,541 So he says, "Wait a minute, 229 00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:00,110 couldn't I start selling the egg rolls 230 00:12:00,241 --> 00:12:02,243 with new and inventive fillings?" 231 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,727 He doesn't know what they are, but he knows it can be done. 232 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:12,079 And then a light bulb moment happens 233 00:12:12,209 --> 00:12:17,345 in the life of Jeno Paulucci, a genius of food innovation, 234 00:12:17,475 --> 00:12:18,912 he comes up with... 235 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:23,220 Peanut butter. [chuckles] 236 00:12:23,351 --> 00:12:25,527 [pensive music] 237 00:12:25,657 --> 00:12:27,790 [Narrator] Paulucci invites a select group of friends 238 00:12:27,921 --> 00:12:31,663 and industry executives to sample his new frozen snacks. 239 00:12:33,274 --> 00:12:35,711 He decides, "If I'm gonna start selling the egg rolls, 240 00:12:35,842 --> 00:12:39,019 I need people in test groups to see how it tastes." 241 00:12:39,149 --> 00:12:40,672 [Narrator] And he's come up with more 242 00:12:40,803 --> 00:12:42,457 than just a peanut butter variety. 243 00:12:43,719 --> 00:12:45,286 Let's start with the cheeseburger. 244 00:12:46,678 --> 00:12:48,768 [suspenseful music] 245 00:12:52,423 --> 00:12:54,121 A Reuben sandwich. 246 00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:58,429 There's no real telling what's going to succeed 247 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,257 and what's going to fail. 248 00:13:00,388 --> 00:13:02,738 [suspenseful music] 249 00:13:04,131 --> 00:13:08,657 But the egg rolls ended up being kind of a flop. 250 00:13:10,441 --> 00:13:13,618 [Narrator] Now, Paulucci must go back to the drawing board 251 00:13:13,749 --> 00:13:15,664 or risk becoming a one hit wonder. 252 00:13:18,145 --> 00:13:21,583 Meanwhile, the Totinos have mortgaged everything they have 253 00:13:21,713 --> 00:13:25,543 to go all in on their risky frozen pizza idea. 254 00:13:25,674 --> 00:13:27,763 Jim and Rose had two problems. 255 00:13:27,894 --> 00:13:31,288 They had a sauce problem and they had a crust problem. 256 00:13:31,419 --> 00:13:36,903 How do you engineer this food such that it can be frozen? 257 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:40,863 [Narrator] That's when Rose has an epiphany 258 00:13:40,994 --> 00:13:42,952 involving a little known product. 259 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,610 An edible sealing agent was usually used 260 00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:50,873 to preserve vegetables, 261 00:13:51,004 --> 00:13:56,139 so it was huge risk trying to rework this thing on pizza. 262 00:13:56,270 --> 00:13:58,881 [Narrator] After pre-baking and chilling the dough, 263 00:13:59,012 --> 00:14:01,231 Rose experiments with various amounts, 264 00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:02,842 trying to get it just right. 265 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:06,019 [dramatic music] 266 00:14:08,543 --> 00:14:11,024 Rose created a separating layer 267 00:14:11,154 --> 00:14:13,853 that would go in between the dough and the sauce 268 00:14:13,983 --> 00:14:15,680 so that the sauce doesn't seep in. 269 00:14:15,811 --> 00:14:17,204 It basically stays on top of it. 270 00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,382 [dramatic music] 271 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:30,652 So that when you bake it, it doesn't become a gloppy mess. 272 00:14:30,782 --> 00:14:33,873 They did something no one had ever seen before 273 00:14:34,003 --> 00:14:36,179 when it came to the creation of frozen foods. 274 00:14:38,921 --> 00:14:39,879 This is it. 275 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:45,493 This was a huge innovation because it allowed frozen pizza 276 00:14:45,623 --> 00:14:48,104 to stay crisp while it was cooking. 277 00:14:48,235 --> 00:14:52,674 [Narrator] In 1962, they formed Totino's Finer Foods 278 00:14:52,804 --> 00:14:55,329 to mass produce their frozen pizzas. 279 00:14:55,459 --> 00:14:59,420 Consider the moment that Rose Totino is coming up in. 280 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:01,988 This is a time when women couldn't go get a credit card 281 00:15:02,118 --> 00:15:03,990 or a loan without their dad or their brother 282 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,861 sitting next to them. 283 00:15:05,992 --> 00:15:09,343 Rose Totino is the CEO of this company. 284 00:15:09,473 --> 00:15:12,955 I think that's really remarkable for that time. 285 00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:17,003 [Narrator] Retailing at just 79 cents for a 16-inch pie, 286 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:19,570 Totino's frozen pizzas hit grocery stores 287 00:15:19,701 --> 00:15:21,529 across the Midwest. 288 00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:24,575 Grocery stores are notoriously scared 289 00:15:24,706 --> 00:15:27,361 of new, revolutionary items. 290 00:15:27,491 --> 00:15:29,798 But apparently, Totino's was worth a risk. 291 00:15:31,278 --> 00:15:32,932 It was groundbreaking for its time 292 00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:37,066 and was a huge game changer for the frozen food sector. 293 00:15:37,197 --> 00:15:39,808 There are way more grocery stores around America 294 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,332 than Pizza Hut or Domino's. 295 00:15:42,463 --> 00:15:45,422 So Totino's helped pizza become mainstream. 296 00:15:45,553 --> 00:15:50,906 Totino went from a struggling family in the Twin Cities 297 00:15:51,037 --> 00:15:55,302 to the first name in frozen pizza all around the Midwest, 298 00:15:56,694 --> 00:15:58,827 and they were just getting started. 299 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:00,960 [dramatic music] 300 00:16:02,483 --> 00:16:04,659 [Narrator] Meanwhile, Jeno Paulucci's idea 301 00:16:04,789 --> 00:16:07,314 for a frozen egg roll is still stalled. 302 00:16:08,750 --> 00:16:10,839 [pensive music] 303 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:21,371 So after experimenting with Reubens 304 00:16:21,502 --> 00:16:25,767 and peanut butter and jelly, suddenly he realizes, 305 00:16:25,897 --> 00:16:29,292 couldn't you put Italian fillings in there? 306 00:16:29,423 --> 00:16:31,642 [suspenseful music] 307 00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:43,350 So he plays around with a bunch of ingredients and sauce 308 00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:49,443 trying to create a pizza filling. 309 00:16:49,573 --> 00:16:51,836 [intense music] 310 00:16:54,926 --> 00:16:58,626 It's pizza inside the crispy egg roll 311 00:16:58,756 --> 00:17:01,194 with all manner of awesomeness inside of it. 312 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:06,677 [dramatic music] 313 00:17:14,859 --> 00:17:16,513 I mean, everyone wanted them. 314 00:17:16,644 --> 00:17:19,603 Pizza's awesome, but Jeno Paulucci 315 00:17:19,734 --> 00:17:21,562 made it into something much greater. 316 00:17:21,692 --> 00:17:24,913 It's the food you know in a brand new, exciting package. 317 00:17:26,393 --> 00:17:28,482 These are amazing, what do you call them? 318 00:17:28,612 --> 00:17:30,223 Jeno's Pizza Rolls. 319 00:17:30,353 --> 00:17:33,443 [Narrator] In 1967, coming with a dozen rolls 320 00:17:33,574 --> 00:17:35,924 in each box for just 69 cents, 321 00:17:37,752 --> 00:17:40,581 the first frozen pizza rolls that pack the flavors 322 00:17:40,711 --> 00:17:43,671 of an entire meal in a bite-sized portion 323 00:17:43,801 --> 00:17:46,369 hit grocery stores across the Midwest. 324 00:17:47,805 --> 00:17:52,201 Jeno's Pizza Rolls are a runaway success 325 00:17:52,332 --> 00:17:54,682 and it changes party food and changes snack food 326 00:17:54,812 --> 00:17:56,249 in a whole new way. 327 00:17:56,379 --> 00:17:58,077 You could just go in your freezer, 328 00:17:58,207 --> 00:18:01,036 put them in the oven for 10 minutes, and then boom, 329 00:18:01,167 --> 00:18:03,430 you have something that's really satisfying. 330 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,867 It's almost meal-like, 331 00:18:05,997 --> 00:18:08,261 but you're still gonna be hungry in time for dinner. 332 00:18:09,871 --> 00:18:12,091 [Narrator] But Paulucci's financial lifeblood 333 00:18:12,221 --> 00:18:13,831 is about to be threatened, 334 00:18:13,962 --> 00:18:16,573 and the food industry changed forever. 335 00:18:16,704 --> 00:18:17,966 [phone ringing] 336 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,403 Yeah? You want me to sit down? 337 00:18:20,534 --> 00:18:21,970 Why? What's the matter? 338 00:18:23,798 --> 00:18:25,408 [Narrator] By a new appliance. 339 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:27,932 The micro-what? 340 00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:36,811 [Narrator] Since launching in 1962, 341 00:18:36,941 --> 00:18:39,814 annual sales of Totino's frozen pizza 342 00:18:39,944 --> 00:18:43,426 have jumped from $10 million in 1970 343 00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:47,038 to over $50 million in 1974. 344 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:50,607 Totino's frozen pizza grew in popularity, 345 00:18:50,738 --> 00:18:53,088 but only around the Midwest. 346 00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:55,351 [Narrator] But another Minneapolis food manufacturer 347 00:18:55,482 --> 00:19:00,313 thinks they can turn Totino's into a national phenomenon. 348 00:19:02,271 --> 00:19:05,666 Pillsbury was undoubtedly the first name in baked goods, 349 00:19:05,796 --> 00:19:08,930 and they saw the amazing potential 350 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:11,454 in Totino's frozen pizzas. 351 00:19:13,195 --> 00:19:15,328 [tense music] 352 00:19:16,894 --> 00:19:21,899 And they offer to buy the business for $22 million, 353 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:23,814 but they wanted something for that money. 354 00:19:23,945 --> 00:19:25,468 What does this mean? 355 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:27,557 We love what you've done with the company, 356 00:19:27,688 --> 00:19:29,690 but what we really want is you. 357 00:19:32,345 --> 00:19:33,346 Me? 358 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,219 They wanted Rose Totino, 359 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:39,830 a hardworking, depression era woman 360 00:19:39,961 --> 00:19:42,529 who built this successful company in the Midwest 361 00:19:44,444 --> 00:19:49,318 to be the first female vice president in Pillsbury history. 362 00:19:49,449 --> 00:19:52,191 [Narrator] In 1975, Rose sells 363 00:19:52,321 --> 00:19:55,585 Totino's Finer Foods to Pillsbury 364 00:19:55,716 --> 00:19:59,937 for the modern equivalent of over $125 million. 365 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,374 Welcome aboard. 366 00:20:03,767 --> 00:20:06,117 This is a moment when feminists are fighting 367 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:09,599 for the Equal Rights Amendment, for fair pay. 368 00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,820 So Rose Totino being hired as a vice president 369 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:15,779 to this Fortune 500 company in the mid-1970s, 370 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:17,346 I mean, that's a really big deal. 371 00:20:17,477 --> 00:20:19,392 She didn't just break the glass ceiling, 372 00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:21,698 I mean, she shattered it with a sledgehammer. 373 00:20:21,829 --> 00:20:23,657 That's the American dream, 374 00:20:23,787 --> 00:20:25,833 and that is the brass ring right there. 375 00:20:27,487 --> 00:20:28,836 [Narrator] With the muscle of Pillsbury now behind them, 376 00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:32,796 the Totino's brand is finally sold in grocery stores 377 00:20:32,927 --> 00:20:36,104 from coast to coast, and it soon becomes 378 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:39,716 the best selling frozen pizza in America. 379 00:20:39,847 --> 00:20:41,979 It was so huge that so many competitors 380 00:20:42,110 --> 00:20:44,155 and copycats jumped into the market 381 00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:46,767 because Totino's had to figure this out. 382 00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:48,421 [Narrator] But a new kitchen appliance 383 00:20:48,551 --> 00:20:52,120 is threatening to upend the entire frozen food industry. 384 00:20:53,817 --> 00:20:56,385 Now, there's Ward's incredible microwave oven, 385 00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:58,082 makes a cook's life easy. 386 00:20:59,649 --> 00:21:02,696 [Narrator] First commercially available in 1947 387 00:21:02,826 --> 00:21:04,350 at nearly six feet tall 388 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,614 and costing the modern equivalent of $66,000. 389 00:21:09,746 --> 00:21:11,879 A little over two decades later, 390 00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:16,449 microwaves are 1/5 the size, 20 times less expensive, 391 00:21:16,579 --> 00:21:18,538 and finally in demand. 392 00:21:20,104 --> 00:21:23,847 So, now the microwave whet the appetite of the public 393 00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:25,980 to have more convenient things. 394 00:21:27,634 --> 00:21:29,331 If you had to make yourself dinner super quickly, 395 00:21:29,462 --> 00:21:32,378 the microwave was your best friend. 396 00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:35,642 [Narrator] In 1970, 40,000 microwave ovens 397 00:21:35,772 --> 00:21:36,991 are sold in the U.S. 398 00:21:38,645 --> 00:21:41,300 By 1975, there are one million. 399 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,304 [pensive music] 400 00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:48,219 The microwave? 401 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:49,351 [Narrator] To stay ahead of the curve, 402 00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:52,136 Jeno Paulucci spends countless sums 403 00:21:52,267 --> 00:21:55,618 to try to transform his pizza rolls specifically 404 00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:57,098 for the new technology. 405 00:21:58,534 --> 00:22:00,057 Jeno was brilliant because back in those days, 406 00:22:00,188 --> 00:22:02,321 microwaves were used for things like leftovers. 407 00:22:02,451 --> 00:22:04,627 There weren't microwave items. 408 00:22:04,758 --> 00:22:07,238 Jeno's Pizza Rolls were able to transition much easier 409 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:10,720 to the microwave because they were relatively small 410 00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:12,766 so they could be cooked very quickly 411 00:22:12,896 --> 00:22:15,595 and they didn't lose their luster. 412 00:22:15,725 --> 00:22:18,032 To turn that into a microwavable treat, 413 00:22:18,162 --> 00:22:20,469 that was way ahead of the competition. 414 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,950 [Narrator] With his product now microwave friendly, 415 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:28,347 Jeno's sales hit roughly 125 million in 1978. 416 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:36,790 But 2,000 miles away, a pair of brothers 417 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,270 have been tracking how the rise of the microwave 418 00:22:39,401 --> 00:22:41,882 has helped launch innovative frozen snacks. 419 00:22:43,753 --> 00:22:46,713 Paul and Dave Merage were very ambitious guys. 420 00:22:46,843 --> 00:22:49,324 They were born in Iran to Jewish parents, 421 00:22:49,455 --> 00:22:50,586 and then they were educated 422 00:22:50,717 --> 00:22:51,718 and moved around throughout Europe, 423 00:22:51,848 --> 00:22:53,807 eventually coming to America. 424 00:22:53,937 --> 00:22:56,897 Paul got a master's degree in business from Berkeley 425 00:22:57,027 --> 00:22:59,856 and then decided to start a company called Chef America 426 00:22:59,987 --> 00:23:01,205 where they would freeze 427 00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:04,687 and sell frozen Belgian waffles for the oven. 428 00:23:04,818 --> 00:23:07,690 [Narrator] Now they intend to create something brand new 429 00:23:07,821 --> 00:23:11,390 to expand the boundaries of what a microwave can do. 430 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,000 During the 1970s, 431 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:16,569 Paul noticed more people eating on the go. 432 00:23:16,699 --> 00:23:19,441 Very often, you'd have both parents working. 433 00:23:19,572 --> 00:23:21,095 If you were a latchkey kid like me, 434 00:23:21,225 --> 00:23:23,967 you needed to have something new could make for yourself 435 00:23:24,098 --> 00:23:26,927 for a snack while you were doing homework. 436 00:23:27,057 --> 00:23:29,059 Paul realized that the bigger companies 437 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:32,149 aren't really paying attention to these trends happening. 438 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,587 So, if they can figure out a recipe 439 00:23:34,717 --> 00:23:37,503 for the perfect grab and go snack, 440 00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:38,765 they're gonna hit it big. 441 00:23:40,506 --> 00:23:43,422 They wanted to get in early on this microwave food trend. 442 00:23:43,552 --> 00:23:45,989 And Paul Merage noticed that Jeno Paulucci 443 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,035 had recently changed the recipe 444 00:23:48,165 --> 00:23:50,037 and cracked the code of cooking pizza rolls 445 00:23:50,167 --> 00:23:52,039 in the microwave, 446 00:23:52,169 --> 00:23:54,607 but you've gotta eat a dozen of them to feel full. 447 00:23:54,737 --> 00:23:58,045 So the Merage brothers had a notion for something bigger 448 00:23:58,175 --> 00:24:00,308 that occupied a different space than the market. 449 00:24:02,092 --> 00:24:03,920 [Narrator] The Merage brothers don't know it yet, 450 00:24:04,051 --> 00:24:06,880 but their microwavable creation will one day 451 00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:09,752 rake in three quarters of a billion dollars 452 00:24:09,883 --> 00:24:11,928 in annual revenue 453 00:24:12,059 --> 00:24:15,802 and help sales of microwave ovens triple across the country. 454 00:24:19,327 --> 00:24:21,372 But when the brothers get to experimenting, 455 00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:24,811 they realize their big idea has a major flaw. 456 00:24:26,029 --> 00:24:27,466 [microwave dings] 457 00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:35,169 Microwaving frozen sandwiches is a recipe for disaster. 458 00:24:41,131 --> 00:24:43,699 [Narrator] By the early 1980s, 459 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:45,484 over 16 million American households now own a microwave. 460 00:24:48,051 --> 00:24:52,273 And at Pillsbury, new vice president Rose Totino 461 00:24:52,403 --> 00:24:55,537 knows her oven baked frozen pizza will need to adapt 462 00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:57,931 [microwave dings] to remain relevant. 463 00:24:58,061 --> 00:25:00,194 [dramatic music] 464 00:25:10,204 --> 00:25:11,988 As a anyone who's ever tried to microwave 465 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,251 a slice of pizza knows, 466 00:25:14,382 --> 00:25:17,428 it generally turns into something between 467 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,822 sponge and yoga mat. 468 00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:22,651 It heats it, but it's not crisp. 469 00:25:22,782 --> 00:25:27,656 It's chewy and wet and lacks the awesomeness 470 00:25:27,787 --> 00:25:31,138 that you can get from traditional baking. 471 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:34,054 Other brands began to cut in on their sales, 472 00:25:34,184 --> 00:25:36,665 so she had to try something new. 473 00:25:36,796 --> 00:25:39,494 Totino's Frozen Pizza was not microwave-friendly, 474 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:41,888 so Rose had to go back to the drawing board. 475 00:25:45,282 --> 00:25:47,937 [Narrator] Meanwhile, Paul and Dave Merage 476 00:25:48,068 --> 00:25:50,679 are racing to get in on the microwave gold rush, 477 00:25:52,072 --> 00:25:54,335 hoping to be the first to market with a creation 478 00:25:54,465 --> 00:25:56,424 built specifically for the new technology, 479 00:25:58,252 --> 00:25:59,688 a frozen sandwich. 480 00:26:01,385 --> 00:26:02,735 The idea of convenience food 481 00:26:02,865 --> 00:26:05,389 really exploded with the microwave. 482 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,522 The Merage brothers wanted to make new foods 483 00:26:07,653 --> 00:26:10,177 that could be made very quickly by teenagers, 484 00:26:10,307 --> 00:26:13,876 by kids even in some cases, that you had never tried before. 485 00:26:14,007 --> 00:26:17,358 And the microwave sandwich was a pretty revolutionary idea. 486 00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:18,925 [microwave dings] 487 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,451 [dramatic music] 488 00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:28,935 [door slamming repeatedly] 489 00:26:30,153 --> 00:26:31,590 [microwave dings] 490 00:26:33,809 --> 00:26:35,942 [suspenseful music] 491 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:40,381 During one of their tests, 492 00:26:40,511 --> 00:26:43,297 the sandwich had become encrusted around the edges. 493 00:26:45,386 --> 00:26:46,779 Wait, I have an idea. 494 00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:50,130 And they realized they shouldn't be working with bread. 495 00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:51,827 They should be working with dough 496 00:26:51,958 --> 00:26:53,524 that is more like the dough that you'd have on a calzone. 497 00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:55,091 What if we push the edges down? 498 00:26:56,527 --> 00:26:57,964 [Dave] Kinda like a pita? 499 00:26:58,094 --> 00:26:59,139 Yeah. 500 00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:01,489 There we go. 501 00:27:05,145 --> 00:27:08,278 [microwave dings] [suspenseful music] 502 00:27:09,671 --> 00:27:12,892 They were able to solve the leakage issue, 503 00:27:13,022 --> 00:27:16,156 but they still want to create a crispy exterior. 504 00:27:16,286 --> 00:27:17,853 Making things crispy in the microwave 505 00:27:17,984 --> 00:27:20,508 was pretty much a foreign concept in the '70s. 506 00:27:22,336 --> 00:27:24,164 [Narrator] That's when the brothers experiment 507 00:27:24,294 --> 00:27:26,557 with a new technology. 508 00:27:26,688 --> 00:27:28,951 The susceptor is a little cardboard sheet 509 00:27:29,082 --> 00:27:32,259 that is laminated with metallic film on the inside 510 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:36,219 that allows microwave heat to become radiant heat. 511 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:38,569 This is similar to using a boiler in the oven. 512 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:42,748 Susceptor technology was first pioneered 513 00:27:42,878 --> 00:27:44,358 by Pop Secret popcorn. 514 00:27:44,488 --> 00:27:45,925 People may remember back in the day, 515 00:27:46,055 --> 00:27:48,579 you get microwave popcorn and there would be tons 516 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:51,495 of unpopped kernels on the bottom of the bag, 517 00:27:51,626 --> 00:27:54,063 and it's because the heat didn't evenly distribute. 518 00:27:54,194 --> 00:27:57,501 But by putting that thin layer of metal 519 00:27:57,632 --> 00:27:59,155 within the layers of the bag, 520 00:27:59,286 --> 00:28:01,984 it was able to conduct the heat 521 00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:06,162 and cook the popcorn more evenly, less unpopped kernels. 522 00:28:07,729 --> 00:28:09,209 [Narrator] Now, the Merage brothers 523 00:28:09,339 --> 00:28:12,821 see an opportunity to harness the susceptor's technology. 524 00:28:12,952 --> 00:28:15,389 - Use both sides. - Yeah. 525 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:17,391 They realize microwave popcorn 526 00:28:17,521 --> 00:28:19,567 just uses one susceptor on the bottom. 527 00:28:20,873 --> 00:28:22,701 What if we had one on the top as well? 528 00:28:24,877 --> 00:28:26,617 So they made a way that you can fold it 529 00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:28,010 and put it in the box. 530 00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:31,884 [dramatic music] 531 00:28:36,671 --> 00:28:39,108 By surrounding it with that thin layer of aluminum, 532 00:28:39,239 --> 00:28:42,285 you're actually allowing the heat to evenly conduct 533 00:28:42,416 --> 00:28:44,505 and it allows you to get a crispy edge 534 00:28:44,635 --> 00:28:45,898 on something in a microwave 535 00:28:46,028 --> 00:28:47,638 which you otherwise couldn't get. 536 00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:50,163 Susceptor technology solved the problem. 537 00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:51,599 It was a game changer. 538 00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,037 [Narrator] The Merage brothers portable meal 539 00:28:55,168 --> 00:28:57,605 is the first frozen snack that can be perfectly cooked 540 00:28:59,128 --> 00:29:01,914 inside and out in just two minutes. 541 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:04,481 What are we gonna call it? 542 00:29:04,612 --> 00:29:07,571 How about Chunk Stuffers? [laughs] 543 00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:11,271 One of the trial names, Chunk Stuffers, 544 00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:13,752 it sounds kinda like a dog food to me. 545 00:29:13,882 --> 00:29:15,188 So they land on calling 546 00:29:15,318 --> 00:29:20,628 their tasty microwavable creations, Hot Pockets. 547 00:29:22,151 --> 00:29:25,154 [Narrator] Retailing at $1.99 for a box of two, 548 00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:27,461 coming in flavors like pepperoni pizza, 549 00:29:27,591 --> 00:29:30,377 ham and cheddar, or barbecue beef, 550 00:29:30,507 --> 00:29:35,121 Hot Pockets hit grocery stores across the country in 1983. 551 00:29:36,687 --> 00:29:38,559 Hot Pockets were in many ways the perfect food 552 00:29:38,689 --> 00:29:41,518 for the microwave era because they were a great snack 553 00:29:41,649 --> 00:29:44,086 for kids, teenagers after school. 554 00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:46,219 It's very easy to make. 555 00:29:46,349 --> 00:29:49,831 The Hot Pocket was convenient, portable, 556 00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:53,095 and yes, ready in a matter of minutes. 557 00:29:53,226 --> 00:29:55,054 So it was a reason to go out and buy a microwave. 558 00:29:55,184 --> 00:29:57,317 Now, America embraced them and they took off. 559 00:29:58,884 --> 00:30:01,190 [Narrator] They will eventually come in 50 varieties 560 00:30:01,321 --> 00:30:04,672 and hit sales of $750 million a year. 561 00:30:06,326 --> 00:30:07,806 And when the Merage brothers decide 562 00:30:07,936 --> 00:30:10,417 to sell their company in 2002, 563 00:30:10,547 --> 00:30:15,422 Nestle buys it for a remarkable $2.6 billion. 564 00:30:15,552 --> 00:30:17,598 The Merage brothers basically created 565 00:30:17,728 --> 00:30:20,514 one of the best microwave foods of all time. 566 00:30:20,644 --> 00:30:22,777 Their devotion to perfecting this 567 00:30:22,908 --> 00:30:25,345 is what put them head and shoulders above competition 568 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:27,782 from other frozen food makers. 569 00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:30,306 [Narrator] Companies like Green Giant, Tyson, 570 00:30:30,437 --> 00:30:34,136 and Swanson follow suit by creating their own products 571 00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:35,703 specifically for the microwave. 572 00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:43,450 And in Columbus, Ohio, a bold CEO 573 00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:46,757 thinks he can make another sandwich even more popular 574 00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:48,194 for the microwave era. 575 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:53,764 But not just any sandwich, it's an American classic 576 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:56,855 from the world's first fast food chain. 577 00:30:59,379 --> 00:31:01,207 The best food ever to be microwaved. 578 00:31:07,213 --> 00:31:10,172 [Narrator] In the mid 1980s, an unexpected player 579 00:31:10,303 --> 00:31:11,739 is looking for a way to enter 580 00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:13,828 the burgeoning frozen snack market. 581 00:31:15,786 --> 00:31:19,355 Bill Ingram is a grandson of the founder of White Castle. 582 00:31:19,486 --> 00:31:21,967 He is only the third head of the family-owned company. 583 00:31:22,097 --> 00:31:23,620 He's big on legacy, 584 00:31:23,751 --> 00:31:25,840 but he is also very willing to try new things. 585 00:31:27,711 --> 00:31:30,192 [Narrator] Opening in Kansas in 1921, 586 00:31:30,323 --> 00:31:33,761 White Castle was the number one burger spot for decades. 587 00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:39,245 But to ensure quality control, they refused to franchise. 588 00:31:40,724 --> 00:31:43,249 Now after six decades in the business, 589 00:31:43,379 --> 00:31:45,251 they ranked far behind their rivals. 590 00:31:46,643 --> 00:31:49,385 They are not expanding across the country 591 00:31:49,516 --> 00:31:52,258 the same way McDonald's is, but they still wanna compete. 592 00:31:53,999 --> 00:31:56,610 [Narrator] That's when Ingram notices a peculiar trend. 593 00:31:58,133 --> 00:31:59,743 Unbeknownst to the folks of White Castle, 594 00:31:59,874 --> 00:32:02,659 some customers start to freeze White Castle burgers 595 00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:04,270 to prepare at home. 596 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,272 And he's like, "Oh, wait a second, 597 00:32:06,402 --> 00:32:08,013 we can turn that into an opportunity." 598 00:32:09,971 --> 00:32:12,060 [suspenseful music] 599 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:18,937 He wants to start selling 600 00:32:19,067 --> 00:32:21,330 their White Castle hamburgers into grocery stores. 601 00:32:22,679 --> 00:32:24,116 He's gonna sell 'em into the freezer aisle. 602 00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:28,729 This was heretofore unprecedented. 603 00:32:28,859 --> 00:32:31,079 [Narrator] Ingram's idea to try to bring his sliders 604 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:34,082 into the freezer aisle will lead 605 00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:36,650 to the best selling frozen hamburger in the country 606 00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:39,914 with sales of roughly one million of them 607 00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:41,307 every single day. 608 00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:45,659 [microwave dings] 609 00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:52,927 But for now, there's a problem. 610 00:32:58,889 --> 00:33:01,544 It's hard to adapt fast food to the freezer aisle. 611 00:33:01,675 --> 00:33:04,112 You can't just take a frozen White Castle burger 612 00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:05,896 and throw it in a microwave. 613 00:33:06,027 --> 00:33:07,594 [saucer clinks] 614 00:33:07,724 --> 00:33:10,336 You get a bun that is both wet and squishy in the middle, 615 00:33:10,466 --> 00:33:12,294 but hard and crusty around the edge, 616 00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:14,644 kind of a unevenly heated thing. 617 00:33:14,775 --> 00:33:16,646 He realized you have to make some changes 618 00:33:16,777 --> 00:33:19,475 to make the White Castle burger workable in a microwave 619 00:33:19,606 --> 00:33:21,521 because the way it's prepared 620 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:23,610 at White Castle is kind of insane. 621 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:26,526 It's a small burger, it's very thin, it's got holes in it, 622 00:33:26,656 --> 00:33:29,050 and it's steamed on a bed of onions, 623 00:33:29,181 --> 00:33:31,400 so you get that onion coming through. 624 00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:34,316 Steamed burgers are really not a common thing. 625 00:33:34,447 --> 00:33:35,535 It's kind of what makes 626 00:33:35,665 --> 00:33:38,146 the White Castle experience so singular. 627 00:33:38,277 --> 00:33:42,194 How do you keep a patty juicy? 628 00:33:42,324 --> 00:33:44,239 How do you get that oniony flavor 629 00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:45,806 without having it on the flat top 630 00:33:45,936 --> 00:33:47,764 with the onions underneath it? 631 00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:51,377 And above all, White Castle sliders get two pickles. 632 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,816 How do you bring people the magic of a White Castle slider 633 00:33:55,946 --> 00:33:59,776 without ruining the White Castle slider in frozen form? 634 00:33:59,907 --> 00:34:00,995 That's the challenge. 635 00:34:02,779 --> 00:34:04,042 [Narrator] Over the next several months, 636 00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:07,480 Ingram forges ahead trying to revamp 637 00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:09,917 their signature sliders for the microwave. 638 00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:15,053 [Jason] They do a lot of different trial and error. 639 00:34:16,576 --> 00:34:18,404 Mm. Mm mm. 640 00:34:18,534 --> 00:34:20,841 And much the way susceptor technology 641 00:34:20,971 --> 00:34:23,409 solved the Hot Pocket problem, 642 00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:24,932 Bill Ingram and his food scientist 643 00:34:26,803 --> 00:34:29,154 created a special plastic wrapping of their burgers 644 00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:33,245 [suspenseful music] 645 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:42,036 that actually cycles the water inside that frozen package 646 00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:44,560 the way that almost replicates that steaming process. 647 00:34:44,691 --> 00:34:46,258 [microwave dings] 648 00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:50,088 [suspenseful music] 649 00:34:56,398 --> 00:34:58,531 And that gave them something as close 650 00:34:58,661 --> 00:35:01,229 to the White Castle experience as you could possibly get 651 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,275 without actually walking into a White Castle. 652 00:35:04,798 --> 00:35:06,626 [Narrator] But there's one notable exception. 653 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:12,240 You can't microwave pickles, 654 00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:15,200 and the pickle is a key part of the White Castle slider. 655 00:35:15,330 --> 00:35:17,419 The whole point is to give people 656 00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:20,814 the White Castle experience down to every last detail. 657 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,556 But there's no way that we're gonna be able 658 00:35:23,686 --> 00:35:26,472 to include that pickle in that package and make it good. 659 00:35:26,602 --> 00:35:27,560 It's impossible. 660 00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:31,694 His food scientists were terrified 661 00:35:31,825 --> 00:35:34,523 because if you start sending out White Castles 662 00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:36,569 in the freezer of every grocery store in America 663 00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:39,267 and they're terrible because of this hot pickle, 664 00:35:39,398 --> 00:35:41,313 you have now soiled your brand. 665 00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:47,449 [Narrator] Meanwhile, the frozen snack market 666 00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:49,712 is gaining even more momentum. 667 00:35:49,843 --> 00:35:52,411 With the rise of the microwave in the '80s, 668 00:35:52,541 --> 00:35:54,195 huge brands, they're like, "Wait a second. 669 00:35:54,326 --> 00:35:55,718 This is a thing that's happening, 670 00:35:55,849 --> 00:35:58,547 but we've gotta capitalize on this new technology 671 00:35:58,678 --> 00:36:02,072 by making snacks specifically for the microwave." 672 00:36:02,203 --> 00:36:04,727 [Narrator] Now, products like Super Pretzels 673 00:36:04,858 --> 00:36:07,687 and miniature pizza bagels called Bagel Bites 674 00:36:07,817 --> 00:36:10,124 hit freezer aisles across the country. 675 00:36:12,126 --> 00:36:15,347 But Rose Totino has a new plan. 676 00:36:15,477 --> 00:36:19,220 She knows that her position is to keep growing the business. 677 00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:22,136 [Narrator] She wants to carve out the biggest share 678 00:36:22,267 --> 00:36:25,270 of the market in one fell swoop. 679 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,707 So if they couldn't figure out the microwave, 680 00:36:27,837 --> 00:36:29,752 they would buy somebody who could. 681 00:36:29,883 --> 00:36:31,972 [Narrator] By making a deal with an old veteran 682 00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:33,452 of the frozen food industry. 683 00:36:36,019 --> 00:36:39,066 Jeno Paulucci sells Jeno's Pizza Rolls 684 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:44,202 to none other then Pillsbury in 1985 685 00:36:44,332 --> 00:36:50,295 for a cool [laughing] $135 million. [whistles] 686 00:36:50,425 --> 00:36:53,559 Pillsbury takes two of the heroes of our stories 687 00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:56,562 and puts them together on their team. 688 00:36:56,692 --> 00:36:58,955 [Narrator] But Paulucci has no idea 689 00:36:59,086 --> 00:37:01,349 that his crowning achievement will only become 690 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,004 the best selling snack in America 691 00:37:04,134 --> 00:37:06,920 by leaving his legacy behind. 692 00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:08,443 They were thinking, "You know what 693 00:37:08,574 --> 00:37:11,751 this Jeno's Pizza Roll needs? More Totinos." 694 00:37:17,583 --> 00:37:19,585 [Narrator] In the late 1980s, 695 00:37:19,715 --> 00:37:21,369 Bill Ingram is trying to take over 696 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,806 the booming frozen snack sector 697 00:37:23,937 --> 00:37:25,939 by creating a microwaveable slider. 698 00:37:27,854 --> 00:37:31,640 The White Castle burger is a crazy specific thing. 699 00:37:31,771 --> 00:37:33,599 [Narrator] But there's one missing piece. 700 00:37:36,993 --> 00:37:38,865 These don't taste like our restaurant sliders. 701 00:37:38,995 --> 00:37:41,259 Well, unfortunately, you can't microwave a pickle. 702 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:44,958 The pickle's a disaster in a microwave. 703 00:37:50,398 --> 00:37:54,446 So, we tell 'em they can add their own pickle. 704 00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:58,145 [suspenseful music] 705 00:38:01,714 --> 00:38:03,585 Their solution was to invite people 706 00:38:03,716 --> 00:38:05,718 to bring their own pickle. 707 00:38:05,848 --> 00:38:08,242 So in 1987, they're the first frozen hamburger 708 00:38:08,373 --> 00:38:11,463 in the frozen food aisle, and as it turned out, 709 00:38:11,593 --> 00:38:13,073 people liked them and they were happy 710 00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:14,901 to bring their own pickle. 711 00:38:15,031 --> 00:38:18,121 Business starts to grow between 10 and 20% a year. 712 00:38:18,252 --> 00:38:20,036 This turned out to be a huge hit 713 00:38:20,167 --> 00:38:22,169 for White Castle, a genius move. 714 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,389 What a smart way to increase sales 715 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,521 without adding physical locations. 716 00:38:26,652 --> 00:38:31,221 Gross sales exceeded 268 million with per unit sales 717 00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,093 at 1.3 million per store, 718 00:38:33,223 --> 00:38:34,660 which is like the best in the industry, 719 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,183 better than McDonald's, Burger King, 720 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,272 almost the very best in the business. 721 00:38:38,403 --> 00:38:41,493 I firmly believe that microwave White Castle sliders 722 00:38:41,623 --> 00:38:43,756 are the best food ever to be microwaved. 723 00:38:43,886 --> 00:38:45,584 All you have to do is cook them for one minute. 724 00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:48,064 The bun comes out all puffy and warm. 725 00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:50,502 It doesn't suffer from microwave bread syndrome 726 00:38:50,632 --> 00:38:52,895 of being dry or crusty or too squishy, 727 00:38:53,026 --> 00:38:54,941 and they come out perfectly. 728 00:38:55,071 --> 00:38:56,638 [Narrator] Over the next three decades, 729 00:38:56,769 --> 00:39:01,295 white Castle sells over six billion frozen sliders 730 00:39:01,426 --> 00:39:03,166 and it becomes the number one selling 731 00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:05,343 frozen hamburger in America. 732 00:39:07,301 --> 00:39:10,957 Bill Ingram, probably more so than his father 733 00:39:11,087 --> 00:39:14,439 or his grandfather, was willing to embrace new ideas. 734 00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:15,657 And he really brought us something 735 00:39:15,788 --> 00:39:16,963 that we weren't getting 736 00:39:17,093 --> 00:39:18,834 from any of the other fast food places. 737 00:39:18,965 --> 00:39:21,446 Even now, you still can't get McDonald's french fries 738 00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:24,100 in the freezer aisle, but you can get White Castle, 739 00:39:24,231 --> 00:39:25,711 and that's a pretty big deal. 740 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:29,236 [suspenseful music] 741 00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:34,981 [Narrator] Meanwhile, the team at Pillsbury 742 00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:37,679 have been busy revamping their recently acquired 743 00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:39,246 Jeno's Pizza Rolls. 744 00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:43,903 These are our new Totino's pizza rolls, 745 00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:46,514 perfect for the microwave. 746 00:39:46,645 --> 00:39:47,820 When the Totino's brand 747 00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:49,648 and the Jeno's brand came together, 748 00:39:49,778 --> 00:39:51,998 it was very much a match made in pizza, 749 00:39:52,128 --> 00:39:53,347 I guess you could say. 750 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,567 Pillsbury sells all the Jeno's products 751 00:39:55,697 --> 00:39:56,916 under the Totino's name. 752 00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:01,224 [Narrator] Combining Totino's popular sauce, cheese, 753 00:40:01,355 --> 00:40:05,620 and toppings with Jeno's microwavable pastry cases, 754 00:40:05,751 --> 00:40:10,233 the revamped super snack hits stores in 1993 755 00:40:10,364 --> 00:40:13,498 and immediately catapults to the number one spot 756 00:40:13,628 --> 00:40:17,197 as the most popular microwavable snack in America. 757 00:40:17,327 --> 00:40:19,373 Totino's Pizza Rolls, formerly Jeno's, 758 00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:21,636 are pretty much the only name in that market. 759 00:40:23,116 --> 00:40:25,335 They built niche for themselves, which they dominate. 760 00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:26,815 [Narrator] It will go on to become 761 00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:30,166 the best selling frozen snack on the planet, 762 00:40:30,297 --> 00:40:32,952 helping the full line of Totino's brand products 763 00:40:33,082 --> 00:40:36,782 rake in over a billion dollars in annual sales. 764 00:40:36,912 --> 00:40:41,830 Rose Totino is a force that you cannot deny. 765 00:40:41,961 --> 00:40:46,444 She launched the single biggest frozen food empire 766 00:40:46,574 --> 00:40:47,793 that this country's ever seen. 767 00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:53,407 [Narrator] After retiring from Pillsbury in 1985, 768 00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:55,757 Rose Totino will be inducted 769 00:40:55,888 --> 00:40:59,152 into the Minnesota Inventors Hall of Fame in 2008. 770 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,024 And while Totino's Pizza Rolls 771 00:41:02,155 --> 00:41:04,331 ultimately win the microwave snack race, 772 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,205 Jeno Paulucci isn't finished innovating. 773 00:41:09,336 --> 00:41:11,469 One of the things that Paulucci has said 774 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,036 is that if he had to do over again, 775 00:41:14,167 --> 00:41:17,692 he wouldn't sell Pizza Rolls to Pillsbury 776 00:41:17,823 --> 00:41:21,261 because it was obviously a huge phenomenon. 777 00:41:21,391 --> 00:41:23,002 But after he sold Jeno's, 778 00:41:23,132 --> 00:41:25,221 he started another successful brand 779 00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:28,442 that, among other things, sold the Michelina's line 780 00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:31,358 of frozen Italian pastas. 781 00:41:32,751 --> 00:41:34,622 [Narrator] The food innovators of this era 782 00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:39,061 helped make hot food quickly accessible anytime of day 783 00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:41,803 and turned meals into snacks, 784 00:41:41,934 --> 00:41:46,504 pioneering the $131 billion frozen snack market. 785 00:41:48,767 --> 00:41:51,813 When Hot Pockets and Totino's Pizza Rolls 786 00:41:51,944 --> 00:41:55,077 and White Castle's frozen sliders came along, 787 00:41:55,208 --> 00:41:58,124 it was this idea that you could have something 788 00:41:58,254 --> 00:42:01,823 that you previously had for a meal, whenever you want, 789 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:04,609 just by putting it in the microwave for a few seconds, 790 00:42:04,739 --> 00:42:08,743 which started this idea of snack culture. 791 00:42:08,874 --> 00:42:12,268 These were snack options that never existed 792 00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:14,880 before these incredible people invented them. 793 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,929 It's not just the story of the foods that built America, 794 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:24,193 these are the people that built America. 795 00:42:24,324 --> 00:42:26,065 They just happened to build it through food. 63207

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