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For the past few
yearsRicky Gervais,
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Stephen Merchant,and Karl Pilkington
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have been meetingregularly
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for a seriesof pointless conversations.
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This is one of them.
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- Testing.
- Is that all right?
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Hello and welcome
to "The Ricky Gervais Show"
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with me, Ricky Gervais,
Stephen Merchant...
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- Hello. - ...
And the little round-headed buffoon.
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That is Karl Pilkington.
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Hi.
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Robert nozick did
this thing that...
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If you could go
into a flotation tank,
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and you led a wholevirtual life
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and it wasthe best life possible...
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You did exactly whatyou've always wanted,
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you became the personyou wanted to be,
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you did the best things youcould ever dream of doing
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and you literally couldn't
tell the difference...
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So it was your life, okay?
And you lived your biological life out.
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In that tank and died at 80
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and had the best lifeany person could ever have.
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You could pre-program it.
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Would you get into that tank
knowing what you know now,
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knowing that you willhave the best life ever
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with no heartache, no upset,no... no loved ones dying?
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So what's happening when... When I'm
sort of havinga packet of munchies?
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Am I having themor are they imaginary?
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They're imaginary, but you
can't tell the diffenence.
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It's the best packet of munchies
you've ever had. I love the fact.
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That you went into
the floatation tank, right,
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and your one proviso was
"are munchies as good?"
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- Yeah, absolutely.
- No no, I'm taking it back to basics.
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- That is basic.
- You've got to pre-program your life,
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that's where you'd start is it?
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Munchies must always
taste magnificent.
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It's just if you can still enjoy
the basic things in life.
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- Then that's when you can't go wrong.
- Yes, you do.
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You enjoy them more...
You are the... you're the...
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It's the lifeyou'd ever want to live
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- a bit dangerous.Lving it.
- Sorry? D why, go on, why?
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Just, um...
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I don't know, because
sometimes I think things.
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Don't happen
for the best, right?
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- Right.
- Sometimes you can sort of think,
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"oh, I'll enjoy that
if that happens."
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And then it doesn't happen.
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And you've had time to think
about what would have happened.
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Ah, but this is perfect.
No, this is built in.
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Because whatever happens
is for the best.
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So not only when you'rein this floatation tank
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are you enjoying yourself,
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the things just keep gettingbetter or staying as good.
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So you neverhave a bad day?
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You neverhave a bad day.
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How long would thatlast for before
you go"I'm fed up with this"?
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Why would you get fed up with it?
Because you'd do something else.
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- It's the perfect life.
- Bear in mind, you're not aware.
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That you're in the floatation tank.
You've made that deal,
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but then once you're in there, you're not
aware of being in the floatation tank.
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You're living your lifeand it's perfect.
You're happy.
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Well, we don't knowhow you would be happy.
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You'd just havemunchies every day and...
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Yeah, you'd get in it then.
You'd get in it.
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If you don't know
you've got in this tank...
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If I somehow go to bedat night and
someoneinjects me in the head
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and then they go "right,stick him in the tank now,"
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and then I wake up,a packet of munchies there,
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sun's out.Suzanne goes,
"oh,it's a nice day.
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We'll go and dosomething nice."
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"But you're meantto be at work."
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And she goes,"no, I don't
haveto go in today."
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"Well, all right,let's go out then."
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Now what's interestingthere is
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that within the scenario...
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I gave you any life,
you could do anything...
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And you chose the exact
life you've got now,
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except Suzanne's got a day off.
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Now I both love that and...
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I was a bit suspicious though,
that she's just taken a day off.
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No wait, it's not happening now.
It's not happening... really happening.
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You can do anything you'd like.
But I like the fact now you're even questioning.
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You're not in the tank and why has
Suzanne got a day off, right?
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Now I love that because that
suggests to me that you're...
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A nice, happy, satisfied...
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Whatever you want to do it...
Contented person.
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Who's got thpeperfect life.
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However it's almost like.
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You haven't fully understood
the possibilities.
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For example, you wake up,
there's the munchies,
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sunny day,Suzanne's not at work,
you say,"why aren't you at work?"
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She goes to you,"hold on though.
Why are you flying?"
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And you go, "I just can."
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But you hadn't even thought that maybe you
could fly or swim or hold your breath.
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You're just gonna havesome munchies for breakfast.
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- Hang on a minute.
This is day one. - Oh okay.
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- When you go on holiday...
- Yeah?
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Like I said before, you don't
turn up and go, "right,
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it's 1:00,jet ski for half an hour,
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bungee jumping40 minutes after that.
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Let's have a nice rotiand, you
know, trya little cocktail.
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What do you do?
What do you do when you arrive there?
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Well, you get there,
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the fellow takesyour case to the room.
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You have that panic of,"am I
gonna give himtoo much money?"
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I don't know the currencywell enough yet.
I don't knowhow much things are.
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More information than we asked for.
The most mundane.
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- Scenario I've ever heard.
- No, but this is what happens.
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- In real life. - Okay, you're
just telling us what happens.
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- When you go on holiday.
What's your point? - Okay.
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Because you don't
want fun all in one go.
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You want to build to it, 'cause
that's sometimes part of it.
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Right, yeah, okay.
Anticipation... yeah, good.
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Yeah yeah, that little bit.
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Is about things
taking time, isn't it?
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Then looking back
at the journey and going,
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- "how did I get here?"
- Can I ask a question?
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Sorry, I'm just...
What I'm fascinated to know is.
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If you decided to sign up
to the float-tank idea, okay?
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You can design
your perfect life...
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But I prefer not
to know I'm doing it.
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No, you won't know.
You won't know.
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I want to ask this question.
Imagine Ricky and I are the doctors, okay?
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We can put you in this tank,all
we need to knowfrom you now
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is what your perfect life isand we're
gonna program itin the computer,
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you're gonna wake up tomorrow,you won't
know thisconversation's happened,
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you'll have the perfect life.What... if you
don't mind,we're gonna take notes now,
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-wbut what else... ect life? -Ywe've got
munchiesslyand we've got sunshine.
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But what else would you likein your
magical life of... Your ultimate life?
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Yeah, I... I don'tlike this idea.
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Suddenly Suzanne'snever at work.
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I just think you need...
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You need a bit of the badness
to have the goodness.
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- Right.
- But the difference is.
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When I next get
British gas round, they go,
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"hi, Mr. Pilkington.Yes, the boiler is fixed."
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Oh, God. So he'd like to have a
virtual life so his boiler's fixed.
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- No n- but it gets fixed. - Step- but you don't
evenstill need a boiler.Your dream
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you could be the perfect
temperature all the time.
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I don't... I don't like
the idea of too much change.
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I don't want that much
of a change in me life.
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But you won't realize it.
It won't feel like change.
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Yeah, but it's that
old Chestnut, isn't it?
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It's the thing of, like, um,
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- what's me problem then?
- Right?
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You've got a problem gene
in your head.
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You've got to fill it
with a problem.
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Yeah, you're not...
He's not a geneticist.
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Got the problem hole
in your head.
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- No, it's not... - Could the problem
hole in your head... shut up, Ricky.
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Let him say what
he means to say.
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He's got a problem
hole in his head.
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- It's called his mouth.- Yes.
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Right,that is your problem hole.
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So if someone comes upand they
go, "I've fixedyour boiler."
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- Sorry, can I just ask one...
- No, let him speak, for...
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Let me ask one question, Steve.
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Is the problem hole different
from the problem gene,
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- or is that a new term for...
- No, you put things.
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Through the problem hole and
they end up in the problem gene.
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You feed something
in the problem hole...
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- Is that right, Karl?
- Yes.
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It goes throughthe problem
tube intothe problem gene.
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Okay, so it's down the problem conduit.
Okay, go on, right.
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So it's better to have... you've got
a problem hole in your head, right.
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So you stuff in a problem
into the problem hole.
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- Okay, yeah, okay.
- Now all the little problems.
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Can't get in because
of the big problem, right?
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- Right.Is that good or bad?
- But that's not true, is it?
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The problem holeis a
standard sizeon everyone.
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- No, but that's not... - Shut up, Ricky!
Let him explain.
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Now Ricky, I'd say his problems
are not even problems.
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- Well, how big is his problem hole?
- Same size as mine.
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- Same size as yours?
- But his problems are all little ones.
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They're like you've got
like a load of skittles.
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I've got a big creme egg.
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- Right, but what... what...
- Shut up. Let him speak.
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He's just expanding on his idea.
Why do you keep interrupting?
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But what is his problem?
What is your problem that's.
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So big compared
to my little skittles?
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Loads of problems.
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You get stressed out about
things that I'm like,
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"what's up with you?
" You get annoyed easily with stuff...
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People chewing loudly
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or someone breathing loudlyor someone coughing.
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Whereas I'm going,"oh, that doesn't matter."
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Like you say, to you
the boiler I l like,
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get it ripped out,
put a new one in.
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It's not as easy as that.
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- It is. - That's why the
problem ball is growing.
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It's a ball!
He's got a gene, a ball and a hole.
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- So the problem ball... - No wonder
there's no fucking room for a brain.
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Right, shut up. Let me ask...
I want to clarify this.
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The problem ball
exists in life,
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but gets bigger
and bigger and bigger.
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It has to go through
the problem hole,
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down the problem tube
into the problem gene.
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- And bounces... bounce into the problem gene.
- Right. Now then,
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you've got the problem ball.
Everyone's problem hole is the same size.
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- Everyone. - But some
people's problems are smaller.
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So they can slip straight
into the problem hole.
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- I've got a question, Stephen.
- Wait!
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Listen, has anyone got... has anyone
got a pair of problem balls?
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Or is it always just...
What?
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- Can ladies have a pair of problem balls?
- No, 'cause Hitler had one...
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A problem ball, didn't he?
But could anyone.
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Ever have a pair of problem
balls is my question to you?
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But I'm assuming his problem
balls are much bigger.
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Than other men's
or another woman's, right?
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Yeah, depending on the problem.
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So you could have... you could
have a pair of problem balls.
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- And one problem hole?
- The way I'm seeing it...
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Okay look, supposing I came to
you and I said, "listen, um"...
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But a man starving in a foreign country
might have huge problem balls.
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He might have, but if I went to a doctor
and said, "I've got a problem hole."
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Then he'll say, "well,let me see it," you
know,"let me see your problem hole."
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And he... and... and... And hanging
down in frontof my problem hole
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was a huge pair of problem balls, what
would he treat first is my question.
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Would he look
into the problem hole?
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He'd say, "right,
take your problem jeans off.
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But he would fish... he wouldput his hand
or his fingerinto the problem holeearly."
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To try and removethe problem
ball,wouldn't he? Or problem...
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He would. Well, he could
feel the problem balls,
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but he'd have to insert his finger
into the problem hole, wouldn't he?
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- Right.
- Okay, so, Karl, go on then.
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I'll just get in the tank.
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What do you do towards
enjoying your life?
228
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I don't normally enjoy the
thing when I'm doing it.
229
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It's after. It's like that
holiday... when I was on holiday.
230
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What do you mean you don't enjoy the
thing when you're doing it, it's after?
231
00:09:59,370 --> 00:10:02,640
What's an example of not enjoying the
thing at the moment, but you do after?
232
00:10:02,670 --> 00:10:04,640
- You didn't enjoy the holiday?
- I've just been away.
233
00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,480
- So you enjoyed coming off holiday?
- Hang on.
234
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I want to hear it. You enjoyed the
holiday... you didn't enjoy the holiday?
235
00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:10,980
When I'm there,
I had fleas biting me.
236
00:10:11,020 --> 00:10:13,450
Yeah. I
had mosquitoesbiting me.
237
00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,790
There was a funny smellof damp in the bathroom.
238
00:10:15,820 --> 00:10:19,520
I was worrying gettingin the sea
thinking, "isthere stone fish in it?"
239
00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,490
Right?Now you've
gotall that going on.
240
00:10:21,530 --> 00:10:23,790
When you get back,you forget
aboutthe damp smell.
241
00:10:23,830 --> 00:10:26,000
You forget about fleas
because the bites have gone.
242
00:10:26,030 --> 00:10:27,300
They're not as much
of a problem.
243
00:10:27,330 --> 00:10:29,770
Then your brain starts going
"hang on, what did I enjoy?"
244
00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,740
And you go, enenjoyedthe dorado
fish I hadthat I've never eaten."
245
00:10:32,770 --> 00:10:35,100
That's an experience.
At the time, I wasn't enjoying it.
246
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Because I'm thinking, "when I get back,
I'm gonna have fleas on me again."
247
00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,340
- Yeah. - Now when I get a menu
given to me in a restaurant...
248
00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:42,480
- Yeah? - ...
I go, "right, what am I gonna do here?"
249
00:10:42,510 --> 00:10:44,210
- Yeah.
- Right, well, when I came here,
250
00:10:44,250 --> 00:10:45,780
I thought I'd have
some lamb chops.
251
00:10:45,820 --> 00:10:47,920
They've gotlamb chops, great.
I wonder how much
252
00:10:47,950 --> 00:10:50,450
they give you,because I quite
fancythis pudding they've got.
253
00:10:50,490 --> 00:10:53,250
Now I have the lamb chops.
It comes with extra veg.
254
00:10:53,290 --> 00:10:55,160
I eat it, enjoy it.
The pudding I wanted.
255
00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:56,930
Has gone out the window.
I've got no room for it now.
256
00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,560
- Yeah?
- But you enjoyed the lamb chops.
257
00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,060
You enjoyed... you can only so
get... pack so much into it.
258
00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:06,070
If you're enjoying all...
All your life all the time,
259
00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:08,270
there's no point
in regretting anything.
260
00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:09,470
That's just greed.
261
00:11:09,510 --> 00:11:11,610
No, but I was looking
forward to the pudding.
262
00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,410
You shouldn't have
eaten all the veg.
263
00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,410
Yeah, but I was enjoying
it at that point.
264
00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,240
But then you take the pleasure
that you had at that point.
265
00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,180
No, because I wanted a pudding.
266
00:11:19,210 --> 00:11:20,850
But you didn't want a pudding or
you would have had a pudding.
267
00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,950
No, because I would have had
it for the sake of having it.
268
00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:26,320
- And then it's ruined.
- I don't know what the whinge is there.
269
00:11:26,350 --> 00:11:29,390
You had a lovely meal. You had some
lovely lamb chops. You enjoyed the hour.
270
00:11:29,420 --> 00:11:32,060
Because when I read that they had
like profiteroles on there...
271
00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:34,730
- I thought I'd fancy a couple of them.
- Yeah, and then you...
272
00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,560
And the chance is gone. I'm probably not
coming back to this restaurant now.
273
00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,030
But you haven't missed a chance.
You had the chance, you didn't want to take it.
274
00:11:40,070 --> 00:11:42,440
- Because you full up with lovely lamb.
- What's the problem?
275
00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:44,540
I had a spicy sausage...
276
00:11:47,470 --> 00:11:50,040
- Right? - Now the problem
was I was enjoying it,
277
00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,610
but I thought, "this is the
spiciest sausage I've ever eaten."
278
00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:55,610
- Right.
- Now I could only enjoy that.
279
00:11:55,650 --> 00:11:59,150
The next-day night when I knew
that it's gone through my body,
280
00:11:59,180 --> 00:12:00,790
there hasn't beena problem.
281
00:12:00,820 --> 00:12:03,320
So I thought, "that was a nice sausage.
I'd have one of them again."
282
00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,760
"That was a nice sausage."
But then the next time,
283
00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:09,790
surely you'd be enjoying it, because
you wouldn't have the trauma.
284
00:12:09,830 --> 00:12:12,700
Of the next night because you'd lived
through it and now you'd just enjoy.
285
00:12:12,730 --> 00:12:15,570
The lovely spiciness and the
sausageness of the spicy sausage.
286
00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,870
Yeah, but the problem is
once you've enjoyed something,
287
00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:20,200
it's very difficult
to replace what you got.
288
00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,100
From that spicy sausage
the first time.
289
00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:23,940
Then why a you looking forward
to having another one?
290
00:12:23,970 --> 00:12:25,380
- Because let me tell you...
- Go on.
291
00:12:25,410 --> 00:12:28,480
Auntie Nora... I told you she
preparesall the food, right?
292
00:12:28,510 --> 00:12:30,150
She's got them allin bags in the freezer...
293
00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:32,010
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,Thursday, Friday.
294
00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:33,780
- Yeah.
- Right.
295
00:12:33,820 --> 00:12:36,590
Now what shenormally does, she
makesa big pot of curry.
296
00:12:36,620 --> 00:12:38,290
- Yeah.
- Right.
297
00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,760
She goes,"what I'll do, I'll
popthat in the Monday bag
298
00:12:40,790 --> 00:12:43,120
and I'll pop itin the Thursday bag.
"It's the same curry.
299
00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,630
Now she hasit on the Monday.
She loves it.
300
00:12:45,660 --> 00:12:47,660
She thinks,"I got the
mixjust right there.
301
00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:49,770
The spices are good.The chicken was tasty."
302
00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,500
"I'm looking forwardto Thursday."
303
00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:53,600
"I'm lookingforward to Thursday.
I can't wait for Thursday."
304
00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,370
I'll call her up on theThursday evening, I'll go,
305
00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,570
"how was the curry that youhad on
Monday that yousaid you're having
306
00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:00,440
again on Thursdaythat you enjoyed?
""Didn't enjoy it."
307
00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,910
"Why is that?""Don't know,
it justwasn't the same."
308
00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:05,350
She was expecting too much
and that's the problem.
309
00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:07,720
- If I had that spicy sausage again...
- Yeah?
310
00:13:07,750 --> 00:13:10,320
It's never gonna live up to it.
So forget the spicy sausage.
311
00:13:10,350 --> 00:13:11,990
I've had I I've experienced it.
312
00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:14,390
- So you'll never have another on?
- Well, it depends.
313
00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:16,860
- So do you have anything twice ever?
- Maybe not.
314
00:13:16,890 --> 00:13:18,860
- Jesus Christ.
- But this is insane, Karl.
315
00:13:18,890 --> 00:13:20,960
Aside from you and your
auntie Nora, and presumably.
316
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,130
All the other Pilkington clan
are all as weird as one another,
317
00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,870
why you phone her up and ask her what
she's having for tea, I don't know.
318
00:13:25,870 --> 00:13:28,230
- Yeah, that's one thing.
- Not only what is happening on Monday,
319
00:13:28,270 --> 00:13:29,740
why you phone her up and what you're gonna
dohaving on Thursday as well, know.
320
00:13:29,770 --> 00:13:32,340
But I'll make a noteof it in
the auntie Norafood diary.
321
00:13:32,370 --> 00:13:35,010
That's proof that you really
aren't enjoying your life enough.
322
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,940
- Exactly.
- To go, "right, oh, fucking hell..."
323
00:13:36,980 --> 00:13:38,910
- What else do you say to her?
- Then he's phoning her up again.
324
00:13:38,950 --> 00:13:41,210
Late on the Friday to find out how
the Thursday curry went down.
325
00:13:41,250 --> 00:13:43,280
- I know, exactly, yeah.
- That's two calls that week.
326
00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,980
Unbelievable.
Just read her journal.
327
00:13:45,020 --> 00:13:47,590
Now the question is, is it
better to enjoy something once.
328
00:13:47,620 --> 00:13:50,090
And not again than not at all?
329
00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,420
But you're an idiot because you're the
only person who experiences this.
330
00:13:52,460 --> 00:13:55,760
That's not the choice.
That's not the choice for normal people.
331
00:13:55,790 --> 00:13:59,300
"You can either never enjoy
summer or only enjoy it once."
332
00:13:59,330 --> 00:14:01,570
- You can enjoy things loads of times.
- No, you can't.
333
00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,800
That's what a hobby is.
334
00:14:02,830 --> 00:14:05,300
A hobby is enjoying things
over and over again.
335
00:14:05,340 --> 00:14:07,200
I haven't got a hobby, have I?
That's why.
336
00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,910
I've had loads of hobbies in the past.
I did the dancing.
337
00:14:09,940 --> 00:14:13,280
I did the boxing.I did, uh,
what elsehave I done?
338
00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:14,940
That is it.
That's about it.
339
00:14:14,980 --> 00:14:17,350
But... but that's what I'm
saying... I soon get bored.
340
00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:20,350
And that's... it's like how you
enjoy, you know, I love munchies.
341
00:14:20,380 --> 00:14:23,290
- Yeah? - But I always
enjoy the last one.
342
00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,450
- More than...
- But that doesn't make sense.
343
00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:27,490
That goes totally counter
to your argument.
344
00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,090
No, because it's
from one packet.
345
00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:31,060
- What?
- It's from one packet.
346
00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:33,100
Whatififference does that make?
The first one's surely your favorite.
347
00:14:33,130 --> 00:14:35,030
Hold on.
So if you'd have one munchie...
348
00:14:35,060 --> 00:14:37,000
"Okay, go on.
Here's a munchie, mate."
349
00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:38,730
You'd go,
"I'm not gonna take one.
350
00:14:38,770 --> 00:14:42,270
Unless I can have all of them
and particularly the last one."
351
00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:45,870
Well, no, I'd like to
have them all, please.
352
00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:47,910
No no, you can't have them all.
Don't be so greedy.
353
00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:49,740
Have one munchie.
Have the first munchie, there you go.
354
00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:51,550
If I have one then I'm gonna
get a taste for them.
355
00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:53,010
And then I'll probably
want another.
356
00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:54,820
No, they're my munchies
though, aren't they?
357
00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:56,450
Oh, I don't want them then.
Forget it.
358
00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,620
So you'd rather have no
munchies than one munchie?
359
00:14:58,650 --> 00:15:01,050
I'll go and buy a packet.
I'd prefer... I'd prefer to go,
360
00:15:01,090 --> 00:15:02,720
"do you know what?
I fancy a packet of them."
361
00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,360
But why do you enjoy the last
munchie more than the first?
362
00:15:05,390 --> 00:15:07,690
Whereas you enjoy the first
curry but not the second curry?
363
00:15:07,730 --> 00:15:09,230
Because you know
that's the last one.
364
00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:11,000
No, because I'm eating
them all in one sitting.
365
00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:12,800
I'm not going that's for
Monday, that's for Tuesday,
366
00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:15,170
that's for Wednesday.
I'm talking about a packet of munchies.
367
00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,740
- Right. - I eat them.
There's probably about 12 in a packet.
368
00:15:17,770 --> 00:15:19,310
- Okay.
- I shove the first four in.
369
00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:21,510
Without even thinking what
I'm eating basically.
370
00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:24,810
- He shoves the first four in!
- "Without even thinking about what I'm eating."
371
00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,910
Now then when you're getting towards
the end, you make them last more.
372
00:15:27,950 --> 00:15:30,420
You might bite the top of them.
You look what's inside them.
373
00:15:30,450 --> 00:15:32,150
- You go, "I'm liking this."
- But hold on!
374
00:15:32,190 --> 00:15:35,990
- Every time? - What, every time
you buy a packet of munchies?
375
00:15:36,020 --> 00:15:36,990
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
376
00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:38,620
So hold on though.
You must enjoy.
377
00:15:38,660 --> 00:15:40,430
A packet of munchies
regularly then.
378
00:15:40,460 --> 00:15:42,030
Not as often as you'd think.
379
00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:44,930
I don't know.
It's not as I think... I don't know.
380
00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,670
So tell me how often you
enjoy a packet of munchies.
381
00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:51,000
Normally after I've sort of...
Maybe once a month.
382
00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,140
So every month
you look forward toa a lovely ps.
383
00:15:54,170 --> 00:15:55,740
And the same experience.
384
00:15:55,770 --> 00:15:57,370
I like the first one.
I liked the last one.
385
00:15:57,410 --> 00:15:59,710
The only thing
you know you enjoy,
386
00:15:59,740 --> 00:16:02,110
you look forward to enjoy it
and it fulfills.
387
00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:06,020
All those expectations is a fucking
packet of munchies once a month.
388
00:16:06,050 --> 00:16:07,920
Fuck me.
389
00:16:09,890 --> 00:16:12,590
What do you think happiness is?
390
00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:17,990
Um, again, it...
391
00:16:18,030 --> 00:16:20,030
You only know the happiness.
392
00:16:20,060 --> 00:16:21,960
Because of the badness.
393
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,930
- You got to have a yin and a Yang.
- I know what you mean now.
394
00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:27,800
I agree with you on this
because it's sort of no good.
395
00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,870
To be handed it on a plate.
I mean, just from my own experience,
396
00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:34,180
working for something
does feel better.
397
00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:37,110
Because you've got... you've got
a pride and a satisfaction.
398
00:16:37,150 --> 00:16:39,480
I genuinely think it's better
to start a business,
399
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,720
struggle,go bust, come back,
400
00:16:41,750 --> 00:16:43,180
than win the lottery.
401
00:16:43,220 --> 00:16:45,120
- Yeah.
- I genuinely believe that.
402
00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:47,690
But you need
the mixture, don't you?
403
00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,060
So you find out what
your favorite thing is.
404
00:16:51,090 --> 00:16:53,660
- It's like a bag of revels.
- Yeah, but you can't...
405
00:16:53,690 --> 00:16:55,530
You can't cherish
guilt or shame.
406
00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,430
Did you just say life
is like a bag of revels?
407
00:16:57,460 --> 00:16:59,970
Isn't that dangerously close to
life is like a box of chocolates?
408
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,200
Fucking Forrest Gumpover there, yeah.
Jesus hell.
409
00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,240
No, but it is, isn't it?
And there's one or two in there.
410
00:17:04,270 --> 00:17:06,410
- That I don't like.
- Like what?
411
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,740
- The raisin. The raisin with chocolate.
- No no no.
412
00:17:08,780 --> 00:17:11,080
Yeah, no no no.
Metaphorically, what... what's the...
413
00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:12,980
Actually named wharerevel
he doesn't like.
414
00:17:13,010 --> 00:17:14,550
I'm telling you
because it works in life.
415
00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:16,350
- Go on then.
- But the revel is there.
416
00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:19,380
- You don't like raisins?
- Maybe if you have enough raisin ones.
417
00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:22,560
You eventually go, "do you know what?
They're not that bad."
418
00:17:22,590 --> 00:17:24,260
- What?
- And that's the thing in life.
419
00:17:24,290 --> 00:17:26,490
What would you have written to
"Jim'll fix it" to fix for you?
420
00:17:26,530 --> 00:17:28,660
What would have given you
pleasure as a kid?
421
00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:31,630
Dear Jim, can youfix it for me to do what?
422
00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:36,870
Uh...
423
00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:39,500
When I watched"Jim'll
fix it"as a kid,
424
00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:42,740
they never really livedup to
what the kidwanted, did they?
425
00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:44,740
But what would you
have reqststed?
426
00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:46,680
But I don't think I would,
because I think I saw.
427
00:17:46,710 --> 00:17:49,480
- How disappointedmost of the kids were.
- Oh God! It's exhausting.
428
00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:51,850
A kid liked whistling, they
brought out Roger whittaker.
429
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,290
Yes, because they look at it, they go,
"can you fix it for me to go into space?"
430
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,620
"No." "Can I dancewith bananarama?"
431
00:17:58,660 --> 00:18:00,820
"No problem."That's
the onesthey pick.
432
00:18:00,860 --> 00:18:02,860
Yeah, so that's why
I wouldn't write in.
433
00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:06,200
Because whatever you ask for, you're
always gonna get a watered-down version.
434
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:09,800
But if Jim could fix it for you to
do anything, what would you have chosen?
435
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,570
There's not many things
I wanted as a kid.
436
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,540
- Jesus Christ.
- One thing. Just one thing.
437
00:18:16,570 --> 00:18:19,210
- To choose one thing, please.
- That me name was Bret.
438
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:25,980
Oh fucking hell.
439
00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,990
I mean it's extraordinary.
440
00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:33,190
There was no predicting that.
441
00:18:33,220 --> 00:18:36,160
Okay, you know what? I can make that
dream come true for you right now, Bret.
442
00:18:36,190 --> 00:18:37,490
Yeah, we can just call
you Bret from now on.
443
00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,160
- Not a problem, Bret.
- Bret Pilkington.
444
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:41,660
- It sounds good.
- I love the fact that it's the Karl bit.
445
00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:43,660
He wants to replace,
not the fucking Pilkington.
446
00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:46,030
- No, but now that doesn't work
either because... - Why not, Bret?
447
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:49,070
Because I told me... I told me mom
and dad that that's what I wanted.
448
00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,240
They startedcalling me that.
Well, then...
449
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:53,770
- They... they went along with it.
- Yeah.
450
00:18:53,810 --> 00:18:56,110
So you said, "mom, dad,
call me Bret from now on."
451
00:18:56,140 --> 00:18:58,010
And they went,"all right."
452
00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,410
Yeah, but theni kept
forgettingthat I was Bret,
453
00:19:00,450 --> 00:19:03,120
so I wasn't answering,so
they went backto Karl.
454
00:19:05,690 --> 00:19:07,890
It's amazing!
455
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,690
So you've had
that dream come true.
456
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,220
Yeah, and it wasn't that good.
And that's what I'm saying to you...
457
00:19:12,260 --> 00:19:15,160
Things never live up to what you want.
Dreams, what are they?
458
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,100
- When I was on holiday
recently... - Yeah?
459
00:19:21,130 --> 00:19:23,270
I got talkingto an old fellow,
460
00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:25,940
'cause where I went,it's
mainlyfor old people.
461
00:19:25,970 --> 00:19:28,670
I got chatting with him.
462
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:31,140
Uh, you could tellhe had a lot of money.
463
00:19:31,180 --> 00:19:33,440
He's sort of tanned.He had, um,
464
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,710
that sort of...
465
00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:38,180
Rouge-coloredsort of jeans.
466
00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:40,650
- Oh, yeah.
- Telltale sign.
467
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,450
It's kind of likehe's got money.
468
00:19:42,490 --> 00:19:43,790
- Yeah.
- And, um...
469
00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:45,920
"The red jeans are
twice as much, sir."
470
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,590
"That's okay.
I've got money."
471
00:19:47,620 --> 00:19:49,890
Yeah, it's sort of... it's
either that color or yellow.
472
00:19:49,930 --> 00:19:52,760
But you can carry it off when you're
an old man, and especially with a tan.
473
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,400
You think, "yeah,
he's got a few quid."
474
00:19:54,430 --> 00:19:56,630
"I'm a... I'm a millionaire.Do you have any yellow jeans?"
475
00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:58,670
"Uh, we've got one pair,sir, but they're not... "
476
00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:01,040
- "They're not ourmost expensive option.
" - "They're in the back room."
477
00:20:01,070 --> 00:20:03,300
"Could I just see your...Your bank account first?"
478
00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:06,170
"There it is.""Oh, yeah, you can
affordyellow jeans, all right sir.
479
00:20:06,210 --> 00:20:09,010
- Come this way."
- So I got talking to him.
480
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,980
And it turns out
he had a... cruise ship.
481
00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:16,280
- Right.
- Los s of money.
482
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,020
Now I was chatting to him
for about 10 minutes.
483
00:20:20,050 --> 00:20:21,790
- Yeah.
- What color was his jacket?
484
00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:24,260
He didn'thave a jacket
on,just a white shirt.
485
00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:27,130
He's wearing red jeansand a white shirt.
486
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,760
Yes, sort of leather... Leather
slip-on shoesthat I can remember.
487
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,400
And how old was he?... It's hard
to tell becausehe was well-tanned.
488
00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:35,100
Was hean attractive man?
489
00:20:35,140 --> 00:20:36,970
He's a good-lookingfellow.
490
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,540
So he was rich.You say you saw
this rich,good-looking bloke
491
00:20:39,570 --> 00:20:42,810
- with just a shirt on.
- No, he had a shirt and his pink pants.
492
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,910
His pink pants and you just went over and
you started a conversation with him?
493
00:20:45,950 --> 00:20:48,610
Why'd you notice his, um...
What color the crotch area was?
494
00:20:48,650 --> 00:20:51,320
- What? - Why did you
notice what color the...
495
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,220
I could see
why you could see...
496
00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:55,420
If you're looking in his face,you can see a white shirt,
497
00:20:55,450 --> 00:20:57,520
- but why couldyou see what color...
- I'll tell you why.
498
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,890
- ...That fabric around his testicles was?
- This is what I'm saying.
499
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,490
You saw a good lookingold man sat at the bar.
500
00:21:01,530 --> 00:21:03,290
You ntnt up and boughthim a drink, right?
501
00:21:03,330 --> 00:21:05,300
No, I was waitingfor the barbecue to open.
502
00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:06,730
- Right.
- Okay.
503
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:08,670
- So you noticed a man's trousers?
- I got there early.
504
00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,170
- So it's 9:00 in the morning.
- No.
505
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,530
- No?
- I was annoyed.
506
00:21:11,570 --> 00:21:13,270
I don't like late nights
on holiday.
507
00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:16,340
It was jet lag. Suzanne said, "let's
go down there early tonight."
508
00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:18,410
- Right. - I get there.
I find out the barbecue's
509
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,810
not for another40-odd minutes.
510
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,610
- What time was it?
- The holiday rep...
511
00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:24,910
Well, I don't know.It starts at
8:00, so Ihad to wait 40 minutes.
512
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:27,250
You're noticing old men's
genital coverings,
513
00:21:27,290 --> 00:21:29,120
but you don't know
what fucking time it is?
514
00:21:29,150 --> 00:21:30,920
- Yeah, but what I'm saying...
- Get your story straight.
515
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:32,890
What I'm sayingto you is the
reasoni noticed his pants
516
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,320
is because what he wastalking about...
There wasno reference points.
517
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:37,060
I didn't havea clue what
he wasgoing on about.
518
00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:40,000
Right.What was he talking aboutfor your eyes to wander down
519
00:21:40,030 --> 00:21:42,200
to his penis, is whatI'm trying to say?
520
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:43,830
What made you lookat his penis?
521
00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:47,170
Because I got bored.
522
00:21:50,210 --> 00:21:52,710
I didn't know... what I'm
trying to say to you is.
523
00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:56,010
His reference points, I had no
idea what he was going on about.
524
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,650
- When you're talking to a stranger...
- Mm-hmm.
525
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,420
-...Aren't you meant to
keep it...Above the waist?
526
00:22:02,450 --> 00:22:04,720
- Keep it, uh...
- Looking at his bollocks.
527
00:22:04,750 --> 00:22:06,250
- Keep it...
- Erect.
528
00:22:15,930 --> 00:22:17,900
Oh, I made Karl laugh.
529
00:22:17,950 --> 00:22:22,500
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