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For the past few years
ricky gervais,
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Stephen merchant,
and karl pilkington
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Have been meeting regularly
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For a series of pointless
conversations.
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This is one of them.
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- Testing.
- Is that all right?
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Hello and welcome to
"the ricky gervais show"
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With me, ricky gervais,
stephen merchant...
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Hello. -...And the little
round-headed buffoon
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That is karl pilkington.
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Hi.
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We've got a little email
straightaway, karl,
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From nikki in beverly hills,
california.
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She says, "karl, you rock.
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I hate it when ricky
and steve ridicule you.
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I checked out your picture.
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Although your head is not normal,
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That's no reason to ridicule you.
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You look gimp, but I never
judge a book by the cover."
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Cheers. - That's all
you've got to say?
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Well, it's only 'cause I've
got no hair though, isn't it?
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That's why it gives that effect.
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No, it's perfectly round,
your head.
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It's a perfectly spherical head.
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Your face is slightly
too big for it.
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It almost goes over the sides.
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Perfectly round head,
pug little nose,
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Funny gimp eyes with
no expression,
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Hangdog look,
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Like a lite mouth-
like a little lamprey,
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Not formed, not human formed,
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The way your expression is like
you've had a lobotomy.
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Your head goes weird at the back.
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It's got a little
knot in it like a--
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It's really strange, your face.
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And you're stupid. - We've had
a lot of emails saying that.
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I think he's just
paraphrasing, but...
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Talking of emails,
you know, a couple of--
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I can't remember which show it was,
but you mentioned, karl,
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That you'd only recently seen
a chinese homeless person.
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And I actually went
along with that.
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I've never-- I've still never
seen a chinese homeless person.
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I can just tell you now the--
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There's a few responses
from los angeles,
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People saying there are quite a lot
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Of chinese homeless
people over there because
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There's a huge homeless
community in los angeles.
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So if you wanna see them, karl,
that's the place to go.
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But we have one from vancouver,
canada, from a girl called amy.
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And amy herself is
chinese and she says that
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She realized herself that she'd never
really seen a chinese homeless person.
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And although she says
that apparently vancouver
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Has the first or second largest chinese
population in canada, she'd never seen them.
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And she actually went for a walk
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Around the chinatown in her area,
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Looking for them...
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And she could not find any
on that particular day.
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So again, canada--
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Obviously not a place to
go for chinese homeless.
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It was just a point though.
I don't want people sort of--
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Well, hold on there, wait.
I'll stop you there.
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"hello, ricky, steve and karl.
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I live in new york city and have
seen a chinese homeless person.
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Not only is he chinese
but he's also a midget.
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He's been living on the
streets for the last 30 years.
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He used to dress in rags,
but thanks to a coat drive,
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He's now wearing a
fancy adidas jacket."
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Now he encloses a picture.
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He says he gave him 10 bucks
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To take the picture,
and I've seen it
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And he's a little chinese
midget fella.
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I'm just a bit worried that
people are going out there
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Sort of looking for these
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Because-- - well,
that's what you requested.
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No no no, but all I was
saying is I saw one.
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I didn't start saying, "excuse me,
can you just give us a smile?
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I'm taking your picture.
" - we've had loads of pictures of people.
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I know, and it worries
me a little bit.
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It's not too bad about the one who
took one of the little midget one
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'cause it-- if he'd kicked off,
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It'd be quite easy to
hold him back.
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But I'm talking about
fully grown--
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So is that your warning to people?
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"don't be taking pictures
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Of fully grown chinese homeless"?
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Well, yeah, I'm just saying
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Don't be messing about,
going up to strangers and that,
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And annoying them and stuff, right?
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Well, I think that's a good rule
of thumb-- don't annoy them.
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But that is a hell of
a sighting, isn't it?
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We ask for a chinese homeless
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And they gave us a
chinese midget homeless.
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Many of the listeners
are aware, karl,
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That you're sort of
fascinated by smaller people.
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Well, he's fascinated by difference,
I think. - Yes.
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I don't think he's
having a go at people.
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When you--
when you stare at someone
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'cause they don't look like you--
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And let's face it,
most people don't--
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You're not having a go, are you?
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Well, it's like I said,
the first time I saw steve
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I was never having a go.
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It was just, "oh,
that's different."
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But you know, steve,
it was never having a go.
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It's just that thing of, "oh,
all right, interesting.
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- What do you mean?
- No, just, you know, with--
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I've said before about
I've got used to it and--
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Steve? Got used to it?
What do you--
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Well, you know my
feeling with this.
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I don't know where he's
coming from with it.
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But steve knows I'm not
having a go. - Yeah.
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Karl used to carry around
a book that was called
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"the top 50 freaks of all te."
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It's interesting you
should mention that
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Because we actually had
an email from ritchie
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Who says that he's been a
fan of ours for many years.
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And he's listened to lots of the
radio shows you've done in the past.
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And he says, "of all the people
you've discussed, karl, in the past,
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Including some of the people
from your odd magazines,
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Who would you most like
to spend the day with
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Of all those people that
you've encountered?"
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Um, favorite-- favorite of all...
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Certainly who you would
want to spend time with,
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Who you feel would be the most fascinating,
the most interesting--
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I mean, just recapll--
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There's pillow man,
the bloke with no arms and no legs
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- That can roll a cigarette with his mouth.
- Karl: Yeah...
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- Not impressed with him?
- That's not sufficient.
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- What about the three-legged juggler?
- Hang on. Let's recap.
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- This was a man with three legs?
- Three legs.
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- And, uh, he said his job-
- he became a juggler... - Okay.
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...Not using the-
the gift that he's been given.
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- So what are you suggesting?
- Anything--
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Running, swimmer.
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- Just, you know.
- Yeah.
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Uh, but what are the others?
What are the other ones?
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There was a picture of a gentleman.
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You were fascinated by him.
He used to play the piano.
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He's got a tiny head, doesn't he?
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Oh, yeah, that's that-
that's the one who--
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- He sort of ages fast.
- Right.
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So every other week he's
having a birthday and stuff.
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And, yeah, that was weird.
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He's not having a
birthday every other week.
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His body's just aged,
so it has the appearance--
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His biology is sort of like-
like he's 70,
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But he's only 15.
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He doesn't-- they don't
have a birthday every week.
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You idiot.
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Yeah, I don't know about knocking
about with one a long time though.
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Only for a day. - Supposed
it depends on what I'm up to.
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Because if we're
going out and about,
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The pillow man would
just be a bit of a drag.
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Whereas--
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Whereas if you're going
for a walk across--
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The three-legged guy-- ideal.
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- So, yeah.
- Oh, brilliant.
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Lots and lots of people emailing
just with questions for karl.
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Just a couple of quick
ones for you, karl.
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Wendy says, "if karl had to eat
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The same dinner every day
for the rest of his life,
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What would-- what would he eat?"
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Um, you see, it depends,
doesn't it?
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I mainly eat just so I keep going.
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M not that bothered about--
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'cause I don't really taste it anyway.
I shove it down.
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You're like a-
what? You're like a horse?
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I mean, to be honest,
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It annoys me the way
people worry about food now
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And how there's so
much to choose from.
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I think it's gotten out of hand.
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Any form of choice really worries you,
doesn't it?
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You don't like choice.
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No, choice is good,
but not too much.
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It's like with anything now.
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If you go into a toffee shop,
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- There's like loads--
- sorry.
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Where are you going
to find a toffee shop?
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So you're in-
you're in a fairy tale.
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Yeah yeah yeah. You're in-
you're in a dickens tale
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In the 19th century.
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You're in "shrek" and you--
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Yeah, and you go into
a toffee shop.
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What I'm saying-- you go
into a shop full of toffee--
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You've just come from the
candlestick maker. -
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You go in there and there's
just too much choice.
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It's like what-
and I can stand there
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Up to four minutes sort of going--
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- Up to four minutes.
- So specific.
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Four minutes. - So he's in a
toffee shop in a top hat going--
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He's only got four minutes
because he's gotta get
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Into the pea green boat
that he's sailing off in.
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"good morrow." - karl: Well,
forget the toffee shop.
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"could I have some of your finest
oxfordshire toffees?"
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So you'd prefer it was just
one selection of toffee?
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Well, maybe two.
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What I'm saying is there's
now too much choice.
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Whenever you get a
menu in a restaurant,
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It's not like-- you don't just go,
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"oh, right, what is there? Yeah,
I'll have that."
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There's too much. It's like a book
now when you look at it all.
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And then you've got
to that point now
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That people are even taking
a risk when they're eating.
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What do you mean?
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You know, in japan
or china or something
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They're eating that fish that
if it's not cooked right
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It can kill you.
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Not worth the risk when there's
so many other fish.
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Yeah, I agree.
Why do they-- - have mackerel.
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Have a bit of cod or whatever.
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As soon as there's a risk,
take it off.
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- Take it off the menu.
- I agree. I totally agree.
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- Not worth it.
- What--
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"we've got a fish that might
or might not kill you."
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"is there anything that definitely won't
kill you?" "chicken won't kill you."
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- Stephen: "I'll have that."
- that's what I'm saying.
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But anyway, we were talking
about sayings and that.
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Um, a stitch in time saves nine.
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Don't-- you know, I'm never gonna use that,
I don't think anyways.
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It's an example of-- - you're never
gonna understand it fully, are you?
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Suzanne repairs my stuff anyway,
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So it doesn't really matter.
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But what about the one-- um,
about the warning
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In greenhouses and that, you know?
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People who live in glass
houses shouldn't throw stones.
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I'm intrigued to know if he's
fully got to grips with this.
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Just give us your explanation again
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Of what you'd take that to mean.
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Well, just don't be
chucking stuff about.
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Well, if that was it,
they'd just say that.
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No no, but that
saying's been around
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A lot longer than we think.
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That's when people
probably did live
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In basic glass houses and stuff.
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- No, whoa whoa whoa.
- What they mean now--
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Who has ever lived
in a glass house?
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So cavemen went from rock
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To a nice crystal structure,
did they?
239
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When did people live
in glass houses?
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Well, no. What they mean now--
241
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When that saying is
used now they mean
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Sort of plasma tellies,
243
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- Uh, ornaments.
- No, they don't.
244
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They're saying don't chuck stuff
about 'cause you'll break it.
245
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It's not about damaging
your own property.
246
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They don't mean you go
inside the glass house,
247
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Throwing rocks inside
your own glass house.
248
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It's a metaphor!
249
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Karl, what is an analogy?
250
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Uh, it's sort of like a
little story told quickly...
251
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Isn't it?
252
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It's a little story told quickly.
253
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To what end?
254
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Well, it depends what the story is.
255
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You see, I just prefer sort of
256
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What you say is what you mean,
so people in--
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Who live in a glass house
have to answer the door.
258
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I don't know wt that means.
259
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I don't know what that means.
I mean, you--
260
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You may be a geniusbecaus.
261
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People who live in glass
houses have to answer the dr.
262
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Okay, let's hear his explanation.
263
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Because the people knocking at
the door will be able to see you.
264
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stephen: But you have to
add other caveats.
265
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If you live in a glass house,
don't walk around naked.
266
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- Stephen: If you live in-
- - ricky: These are literal.
267
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But just the idea that in your head
268
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There should be sayings for
people who live in glass houses...
269
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Who is it that's living
in a glass house?
270
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No, well, it-
I'm not talking about me.
271
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If everyone else is bringing up
272
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About these people who are
living in glass houses,
273
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Let's get to the real
problems they've got.
274
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He still hasn't got
to grips with the idea
275
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Of the metaphoror the simile.
276
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Well, here's another saying
277
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That I learned recently
from a mate, right?
278
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Um...
279
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There's an elephant in the room.
280
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Okay, I haven't heard that one,
but explain it to me.
281
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It's like how you--
282
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Whenever we go out for something
to eat or a drink or something,
283
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Normally after about five minutes
284
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The sort of topic gets on
to the shape of my head.
285
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Yeah yeah.
286
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But what I'm saying
is it's interesting
287
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How I'm the elephant
in the room, right?
288
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Nobody's talking about it.
You mention it once,
289
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Suddenly it's the talk
of the town.
290
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Everybody starts joining in,
going,
291
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"well, yeah, it is round,
but it does suit, yeah."
292
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And these are people who I don't
even know sometimes,
293
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And they're all dipping in.
294
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And that is an elephant
in the room.
295
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So you don't want people to discuss
296
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The shape of your head
or the lack of hair.
297
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You would feel happier if
they didn't mention it.
298
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Sometimes I think it's
better that it's out there.
299
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It's made me a stronger person now.
300
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It's the same way--
301
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We were talking about
religion and that,
302
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- Samson and delilah.
- Ricky: Yeah.
303
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He got weaker without hair.
304
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Whereas with me, I think
it's made me stronger.
305
00:12:32,048 --> 00:12:33,614
But would you ever wear a wig?
306
00:12:33,668 --> 00:12:36,603
Um, not really.
307
00:12:36,671 --> 00:12:38,272
What if it was a long wig,
like samson?
308
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Well, the only time I wanted a wig
309
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Was when I did jury duty once.
310
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And it was annoying that
I was sat on the jury
311
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Right in front of these
criminals, right?
312
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Everybody else has got disguises.
313
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The judges have
them wigs on, right?
314
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- That's not disguises!
- That's a disguise.
315
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That's why judges wear them,
right? - No!
316
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Then why would they print their name
in the paper and have a picture?
317
00:13:00,064 --> 00:13:01,664
What do you mean it's a disguise?
318
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- It's a disguise, isn't it?
- No. If it was a disguise
319
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They'd go in with
one of those glasses
320
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With the nose and the beard
attached if it was a disguise.
321
00:13:08,773 --> 00:13:11,040
All judges would look
like groucho marx
322
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If it was a disguise.
323
00:13:12,721 --> 00:13:14,889
Well, that-- I'm just saying
that's what annoyed me
324
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When I was sat there
on the front row.
325
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I couldn't have been any closer
to the criminals and that.
326
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I was sat there and I thought,
327
00:13:23,183 --> 00:13:25,884
"why didn't I just pop a little wig
on or a pair of glasses?"
328
00:13:25,951 --> 00:13:27,618
I would have loved to have seen you
329
00:13:27,672 --> 00:13:30,541
- In the front row at crown court.
- No because--
330
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I'd love to see it
because in this country
331
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You're not allowed to show p.
332
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You can't take photos
in a courtroom,
333
00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:37,711
So there's always
these sketch artists
334
00:13:37,764 --> 00:13:39,599
That draw drawings
and it's on the news.
335
00:13:39,655 --> 00:13:41,255
The idea that we'd have
seen 11 people
336
00:13:41,309 --> 00:13:43,743
And a sort of krusty the clown figure
would have been amazing.
337
00:13:43,807 --> 00:13:47,173
Yeah, I would love to see
their artist's doing of you
338
00:13:47,246 --> 00:13:48,878
'cause it would be like
complicated people.
339
00:13:48,933 --> 00:13:50,763
"oh, hair." he looks at it.
It's characterful.
340
00:13:50,819 --> 00:13:53,020
- And then just a little round-
- - stephen: Charlie brown.
341
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charlie brown sitting on the end.
342
00:13:58,783 --> 00:14:01,017
Karl, you said that your
new year's resolution
343
00:14:01,078 --> 00:14:03,846
Was that you were gonna
learn something every day.
344
00:14:03,913 --> 00:14:06,148
- Yeah, if I can.
- Have you learned anything today?
345
00:14:06,208 --> 00:14:09,243
Uh, today... I don't know
346
00:14:09,313 --> 00:14:10,947
The full facts of it, but--
347
00:14:11,001 --> 00:14:13,069
Could I just say that
when someone says
348
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They learn something new every day,
349
00:14:14,781 --> 00:14:17,983
That doesn't count if they
forget it the next day.
350
00:14:18,055 --> 00:14:21,023
'cse that would be
groundhog day learning.
351
00:14:21,092 --> 00:14:24,627
Well, the thing I learned
today was about an octopus.
352
00:14:24,703 --> 00:14:25,869
- Oh, yeah.
- On.
353
00:14:25,918 --> 00:14:27,518
What they can do is--
354
00:14:27,571 --> 00:14:29,439
You know how they've got
eight legs and that?
355
00:14:29,495 --> 00:14:31,162
- Yeah.
- Tentacles.
356
00:14:31,217 --> 00:14:33,918
They can use-- they can use
357
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Six of them legs to
cover their heads
358
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So they look like a little stone
359
00:14:37,798 --> 00:14:39,431
And use the other two to run off.
360
00:14:39,485 --> 00:14:41,085
Right? But that's--
361
00:14:41,139 --> 00:14:42,806
He's thinking of squiddly diddly.
362
00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:44,928
Yeah, it's a disney image in his head,
isn't it?
363
00:14:44,987 --> 00:14:46,788
- Yeah, he's thinking of--
- but anyway--
364
00:14:46,844 --> 00:14:48,478
But anyway, that's--
365
00:14:48,532 --> 00:14:51,701
So he's pink, singing a song in
your mind and running off, yeah.
366
00:14:51,772 --> 00:14:54,140
No, but anyway,
but something else I learned--
367
00:14:54,202 --> 00:14:56,737
Um, it's mainly about
animals and that
368
00:14:56,801 --> 00:14:58,968
'cause that's normally
quite interesting.
369
00:14:59,029 --> 00:15:01,230
- There's a chicken somewhere.
- Oh, yeah.
370
00:15:01,290 --> 00:15:02,757
Oh, yeah. Specific.
371
00:15:02,808 --> 00:15:04,342
And the owner of it
is getting fed up
372
00:15:04,395 --> 00:15:06,896
Because he had to feed
it and that--
373
00:15:06,959 --> 00:15:08,760
Embellishment embellishment,
guesswork.
374
00:15:08,816 --> 00:15:11,150
- No, come on, let's hear it.
- It wasn't giving anything back.
375
00:15:11,212 --> 00:15:13,313
- Stephen: No eggs?
- Karl: No eggs.
376
00:15:13,372 --> 00:15:15,340
So he was like, "I'm sick of this."
377
00:15:15,398 --> 00:15:17,866
Anyway, someone told
him pop a little axe
378
00:15:17,929 --> 00:15:19,796
Next to its little house.
379
00:15:19,852 --> 00:15:21,786
So when it comes out in the morning,
thinking,
380
00:15:21,843 --> 00:15:23,744
"oh, I'm gonna have another lazy
day doing nothing"...
381
00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,102
...He saw this axe
382
00:15:26,164 --> 00:15:27,898
And suddenly it was like, "aw."
383
00:15:27,952 --> 00:15:30,253
The next day it
laid about six eggs.
384
00:15:30,315 --> 00:15:31,882
It's rubbish. It's rubbish.
385
00:15:31,934 --> 00:15:33,702
The chicken wouldn't
recognize an axe as a threat.
386
00:15:33,757 --> 00:15:35,657
It wouldn't be able to reason that,
387
00:15:35,715 --> 00:15:38,850
"oh, I'd better start working
or I'll be-- I'll be meat.
388
00:15:38,921 --> 00:15:40,755
I'd better start-
-" it's absolute rubbish.
389
00:15:40,811 --> 00:15:43,546
Once again, it's this
ridiculous thing you've got--
390
00:15:43,612 --> 00:15:46,347
That one of personifying animals
391
00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:50,148
To reasoning powers
better than yours.
392
00:15:50,227 --> 00:15:51,493
I mean, I think--
393
00:15:51,543 --> 00:15:53,777
You make chickens and
monkeys cleverer than you
394
00:15:53,838 --> 00:15:56,139
In your stories, which is weird.
395
00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,534
It didn't happen and
wouldn't work. Next.
396
00:15:58,596 --> 00:16:00,598
What else haven't
you learned today?
397
00:16:00,657 --> 00:16:03,460
Do you think then that it's worth
398
00:16:03,528 --> 00:16:05,863
Looking after animals then
if there isn't any memory,
399
00:16:05,925 --> 00:16:08,327
If they don't know
what's happening anyway?
400
00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:10,824
You're always going on about
don't be cruel to things.
401
00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:13,855
Why would you ever want to be cruel to
an animal, whether it can reason or not?
402
00:16:13,925 --> 00:16:16,526
No no no, I don't mean really cruel,
but I mean like--
403
00:16:16,592 --> 00:16:18,225
Like there's an advert on--
404
00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:22,247
That's on in britain
advertising some supermarket
405
00:16:22,328 --> 00:16:24,529
And it's saying, we look at--
406
00:16:24,589 --> 00:16:27,056
Before we kill our
chickens and what have you,
407
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,253
They have a great life.
408
00:16:28,301 --> 00:16:30,669
This is a voiceover and you
see a happy chicken
409
00:16:30,731 --> 00:16:34,700
And it's going, we give it a good
little house to live in.
410
00:16:34,780 --> 00:16:36,347
- Karl: It's got straw.
- Ricky: Yeah.
411
00:16:36,401 --> 00:16:38,235
- Karl: It eats good.
- Ricky: Yeah.
412
00:16:38,291 --> 00:16:40,758
And then we kill it. - Yes,
but that's better, isn't it?
413
00:16:40,822 --> 00:16:42,589
Well, no, I don't think
it is though, is it?
414
00:16:42,644 --> 00:16:44,611
Because at the end of the day,
if I was that chicken,
415
00:16:44,669 --> 00:16:46,169
- Right?
- Uh-huh.
416
00:16:46,220 --> 00:16:47,687
I'm that chicken loving my life,
417
00:16:47,739 --> 00:16:49,273
I can't believe my luck.
418
00:16:49,325 --> 00:16:52,559
It's got its nice little field
that it's working on.
419
00:16:52,631 --> 00:16:55,199
It's got its nice food
and everything.
420
00:16:55,264 --> 00:16:57,599
- Karl: But it's gonna die.
- Yeah, we're all gonna die.
421
00:16:57,660 --> 00:16:59,961
But then if you were
a rubbish chicken
422
00:17:00,023 --> 00:17:01,991
That had a rubbish life,
423
00:17:02,048 --> 00:17:04,347
You'd be going, "oh, kill me."
424
00:17:04,408 --> 00:17:07,175
Karl, they're not thinking,
"what's gonna happen tomorrow?"
425
00:17:07,242 --> 00:17:09,810
They don't know that they're
gonna get for the chop, are they?
426
00:17:09,874 --> 00:17:12,408
A chicken's not going,
"I'm fed up with this.
427
00:17:12,473 --> 00:17:16,175
I can't wait for that axe to
be used on my neck."
428
00:17:16,253 --> 00:17:18,421
Ye. Well, that's another--
429
00:17:18,481 --> 00:17:20,782
Now you've mentioned the
cutting off of an head, right?
430
00:17:20,844 --> 00:17:22,044
- Yeah.
- On a chicken.
431
00:17:22,093 --> 00:17:23,493
That's something else I've learned.
432
00:17:23,545 --> 00:17:25,245
- It's like a pinball-
- his mind. - Amazing.
433
00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:28,301
Isn't it?
434
00:17:31,307 --> 00:17:33,940
But this was in a proper
science magazine as well.
435
00:17:34,006 --> 00:17:35,439
So you can't have a go.
436
00:17:35,491 --> 00:17:37,157
This wasn't something
on the internet;
437
00:17:37,212 --> 00:17:38,945
This was printed in a magazine.
438
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,666
- So? You read it.
- Okay, and what was it?
439
00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,521
And here comes the filter.
440
00:17:42,577 --> 00:17:44,011
It's gonna come out nonsense.
441
00:17:44,062 --> 00:17:45,429
- Right--
- ricky: You could have
442
00:17:45,479 --> 00:17:47,213
Professor stephen hawking
sitting there
443
00:17:47,268 --> 00:17:49,704
Whispering stuff in your ear and
it could all be true.
444
00:17:49,769 --> 00:17:52,141
But when you said it-
gobbledygook.
445
00:17:52,204 --> 00:17:54,136
Well, let's see then. Let's see.
446
00:17:54,194 --> 00:17:57,095
What they've done-- they've
done another experiment, right?
447
00:17:57,163 --> 00:17:59,298
Yeah. - They've cut
somebody's head off,
448
00:17:59,357 --> 00:18:02,260
And they've worked out that once--
449
00:18:02,329 --> 00:18:04,563
When the head comes off the body,
450
00:18:04,623 --> 00:18:08,259
It stays alive and
that for 30 seconds.
451
00:18:08,336 --> 00:18:10,904
Well, no, they don't know that.
They could never know that.
452
00:18:10,968 --> 00:18:12,702
No, they did it.
They did this experiment.
453
00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:15,058
What's alive? What's alive?
454
00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:18,221
But the way-- there's
loads of issues here.
455
00:18:18,293 --> 00:18:21,695
No one's experimenting with human
beings cutting their head off, karl.
456
00:18:21,769 --> 00:18:23,369
- Karl: Well--
- two-- no no no no.
457
00:18:23,423 --> 00:18:26,658
So you read this in what,
"executioner's monthly"?
458
00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:29,432
Two, karl-- it's what your
definition of "alive" is,
459
00:18:29,498 --> 00:18:32,566
Because you can be alive
and have no conscience.
460
00:18:32,636 --> 00:18:35,504
No no, but this is where
it gets weird, right?
461
00:18:35,573 --> 00:18:37,373
Yeah, this is where it gets weird:
462
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:39,697
- You talking about it.
- So the head's off, right?
463
00:18:39,757 --> 00:18:42,525
And what they did was they chucked
a load of questions at it.
464
00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:47,729
- All sanctioned by the government.
- This is all fine.
465
00:18:47,791 --> 00:18:49,758
So the head lands
perfectly on the neck
466
00:18:49,815 --> 00:18:51,516
And goes, "what do you
wanna know?"
467
00:18:51,571 --> 00:18:53,205
- It said--
- so they're asking questions
468
00:18:53,259 --> 00:18:54,659
And it's going, "do you know what?
469
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:56,177
I don't want to answer
your question.
470
00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:57,830
I'm annoyed about the
execution still."
471
00:18:57,883 --> 00:18:59,817
Well, that was the interesting
thing. They said--
472
00:18:59,875 --> 00:19:01,742
- No, it didn't happen, karl.
- Let me hear it.
473
00:19:01,798 --> 00:19:04,000
Oh, don't talk shit.
What are you talking about?
474
00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:06,161
Who are these people around
in white coats going,
475
00:19:06,220 --> 00:19:08,054
"quick, ask it a question;
it's bleeding"?
476
00:19:08,111 --> 00:19:10,879
So they said for about
25 to 30 seconds--
477
00:19:10,945 --> 00:19:12,645
The last five seconds
478
00:19:12,701 --> 00:19:15,202
It was sort of like, "I can't be
bothered answering them."
479
00:19:16,717 --> 00:19:18,951
Right, but prior to that...
Oh god.
480
00:19:19,011 --> 00:19:22,281
But apart from that, they were
chucking stuff. I don't think it spoke.
481
00:19:22,354 --> 00:19:25,024
I don't think it was like, "yeah,
two and two is four," and stuff.
482
00:19:25,089 --> 00:19:26,790
It was more--
it was to do with blinking.
483
00:19:26,845 --> 00:19:28,579
- So blink once if you say yes.
- Oh, yeah.
484
00:19:28,634 --> 00:19:30,034
- Blink twice--
- so they told it--
485
00:19:30,086 --> 00:19:31,854
They said, "when you die,
you're probably
486
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:33,276
Not gonna be able to talk.
487
00:19:33,328 --> 00:19:35,062
You're not gonna be able
to open your mouth.
488
00:19:35,116 --> 00:19:36,684
If you do, you'll fall
over backwards.
489
00:19:36,737 --> 00:19:39,172
Now, listen, blink one for
yes and two for no."
490
00:19:39,236 --> 00:19:42,038
"yeah, all right. Yeah, not too bad.
The axe is nice and sharp.
491
00:19:42,105 --> 00:19:43,706
You're talking shit again.
492
00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:46,928
"you promise to do it?" - ricky: "yeah,
I will."
493
00:19:46,999 --> 00:19:48,567
They wouldn't be able
to do it with you,
494
00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:50,721
'cause if they cut your head off,
it would just roll.
495
00:19:50,781 --> 00:19:54,717
It would roll away 'cause it's perfectly
spherical. They'd go, "oh, no!"
496
00:19:54,798 --> 00:19:58,768
It takes about 20 seconds whenever you ask
karl anything for the question to process
497
00:19:58,850 --> 00:20:01,384
And for him to start
to formulate an answer.
498
00:20:03,372 --> 00:20:06,807
Karl, it's what we've
all been waiting for.
499
00:20:06,883 --> 00:20:09,449
Oh, chimpanzee that monkey news.
500
00:20:11,741 --> 00:20:17,078
Well, this one-
sent in from sam in new york
501
00:20:17,174 --> 00:20:20,009
And it's about a fire that happened
502
00:20:20,077 --> 00:20:21,611
In a really-
do you know in new york
503
00:20:21,664 --> 00:20:23,698
They have loads of big buildings,
don't they?
504
00:20:23,756 --> 00:20:25,624
- Yeah.
- Like really really tall--
505
00:20:25,682 --> 00:20:27,383
- Skyscrapers.
- Yeah.
506
00:20:27,437 --> 00:20:31,006
And there was a
fire in one of them.
507
00:20:31,082 --> 00:20:33,349
So they did as expected.
508
00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:36,077
They called up the
fire brigade and that.
509
00:20:36,142 --> 00:20:38,343
They turned up.
510
00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:41,137
Fire engine parks up. It's like,
"right, where's the fire?"
511
00:20:41,205 --> 00:20:45,207
And they said, "it's on floor 100,
" or whatever.
512
00:20:45,289 --> 00:20:47,357
And they said, "oh, no,
we've brought
513
00:20:47,415 --> 00:20:50,783
The fire engine with the
short ladders."
514
00:20:50,858 --> 00:20:52,959
- Stupid mistake, but go on.
- Right?
515
00:20:53,018 --> 00:20:55,152
So they said, "well,
how are we gonna get up there?"
516
00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:58,080
Yeah. "we can't." - stephen: But they've
only brought the short ladders.
517
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:59,516
"no, we can't. Let's go home."
518
00:20:59,567 --> 00:21:00,834
Okay, that was monkey news.
519
00:21:00,884 --> 00:21:04,852
So they said, "there's
a lot of 'grippage.'"
520
00:21:04,932 --> 00:21:07,303
'cause they made up words--
521
00:21:07,366 --> 00:21:09,268
The fireman-- yeah, the n.
Y.P.D. Firemen.
522
00:21:09,324 --> 00:21:11,058
"there's a lot of grippage."
523
00:21:11,114 --> 00:21:12,914
On the side of the
building and stuff.
524
00:21:12,970 --> 00:21:15,604
So anyway, they said, "why don't
we just go and get a monkey?"
525
00:21:15,669 --> 00:21:18,204
- Karl: So they got a monkey.
- Whoa, that's a bit of a jump.
526
00:21:18,268 --> 00:21:21,271
Is that policy now in the
new york fire department?
527
00:21:21,341 --> 00:21:24,076
You've gotta think quick,
haven't you, at the end of the day?
528
00:21:24,142 --> 00:21:27,043
If people are up there, you don't
start querying if it'll work or not;
529
00:21:27,112 --> 00:21:29,679
You try everything that you can
to help someone out, right?
530
00:21:29,745 --> 00:21:31,212
That's the first
thing I thought of--
531
00:21:31,263 --> 00:21:33,030
So it was quicker for them
to go and get a monkey
532
00:21:33,086 --> 00:21:34,687
Than to go back and
get the long ladders?
533
00:21:34,740 --> 00:21:37,142
- Okay, fair enough.
- "why didn't they get spider-man?"
534
00:21:37,206 --> 00:21:39,238
"yeah, call spider-man. " -
535
00:21:39,296 --> 00:21:41,895
So anyway, so they got a monkey
down there and they said, "right--"
536
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,391
- Where'd they get it from?
- We don't know.
537
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,939
From the local zoo or something.
538
00:21:44,991 --> 00:21:46,456
So they said, "look, let's--
539
00:21:46,507 --> 00:21:48,274
We've got to remember there's--
540
00:21:48,329 --> 00:21:50,826
There could be someone up there
541
00:21:50,890 --> 00:21:53,058
And it'll shock them a bit
542
00:21:53,117 --> 00:21:55,385
If a monkey comes in, right?"
543
00:21:55,446 --> 00:21:56,514
- Yeah.
- So they said--
544
00:21:56,561 --> 00:21:58,362
I don't think they'd care.
545
00:21:58,418 --> 00:21:59,985
Their building's on fire.
546
00:22:00,037 --> 00:22:01,504
They're not gonna go,
"that's weird.
547
00:22:01,556 --> 00:22:03,190
There's a monkey at the window."
548
00:22:03,243 --> 00:22:05,811
They'd be screaming, "save me! Oh,
there's a monkey."
549
00:22:05,877 --> 00:22:08,812
So they said, "right, we'll just
get it a little small uniform."
550
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,014
Whoa whoa. Hold on, though.
551
00:22:11,074 --> 00:22:12,875
"actually, where are
you going to get that?"
552
00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:14,964
"I'm going back to the-
going back to the station."
553
00:22:15,022 --> 00:22:17,991
"get the long ladders while you're there.
" - stephen: "no time.
554
00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:19,360
I brought the small uniform.
555
00:22:19,411 --> 00:22:21,111
I just didn't bring the
long ladders."
556
00:22:21,165 --> 00:22:23,833
you're an idiot!
557
00:22:23,899 --> 00:22:25,800
So anyway, it goes up there.
558
00:22:25,857 --> 00:22:28,425
It's got all the kit on,
its little hard hat on and all that.
559
00:22:28,490 --> 00:22:31,559
It grabs-- there was a little
person up there,
560
00:22:31,629 --> 00:22:33,597
Manages to grab that.
561
00:22:33,654 --> 00:22:35,288
- Who was up there then?
- It was just--
562
00:22:35,342 --> 00:22:36,876
Someone that was
just the right size
563
00:22:36,929 --> 00:22:38,996
For a monkey to be able to rescue,
which is handy.
564
00:22:39,054 --> 00:22:40,889
If had been any one else,
like a larger person
565
00:22:40,945 --> 00:22:42,379
Or a family, we'd all be screwed.
566
00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:43,964
No, I don't know
about the size of it.
567
00:22:44,017 --> 00:22:45,584
But it's just the stories say
568
00:22:45,637 --> 00:22:48,071
It was quite a big big monkey
569
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,902
And that it was good at
breaking down doors. - Oh, yeah.
570
00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:54,138
It was good at climbing into
small spaces and stuff like that.
571
00:22:54,209 --> 00:22:56,143
Anyway-- - so it's
big enough to carry
572
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,835
A fully grown man,
but small enough to climb
573
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:02,169
Through a cat flap,
which is handy.
574
00:23:02,243 --> 00:23:04,343
So anyway, it managed to--
575
00:23:04,403 --> 00:23:05,769
Did it have the boots on as well?
576
00:23:05,820 --> 00:23:07,254
It got the person and everything.
577
00:23:07,305 --> 00:23:10,440
And now it says it-- it's sort of--
578
00:23:10,512 --> 00:23:12,679
It's on call if they
ever need it again.
579
00:23:12,740 --> 00:23:15,408
And if they ever get anywhere
again and forgot the long ladders
580
00:23:15,475 --> 00:23:18,009
But there's plenty of grippage,
they just call for coco.
581
00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:22,559
So that's this week's
monkey news. - Bollocks.
582
00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:27,159
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