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This programme contains struggles
with gambling and addiction.
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BIRDSONG
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People know me as ex-England
and Arsenal footballer.
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Oh, cheers, Paul. Is that all right?
Thank you. Pleasure.
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But in more recent years,
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with my struggles with drinking
and gambling.
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DOG BARKS
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Hiya, morning.
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A short time ago, I was asked
to take a walk in Yorkshire.
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A beautiful spot close
to where I once lived.
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Sounded great. A walk in the park.
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But what happened and what
I discovered surprised me
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and will stay with me for
the rest of my life.
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Beautiful morning.
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This is unreal.
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You know, the wealthiest people in
the world are
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the people that live in the moment.
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Cos so many people worry about
yesterday and tomorrow
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and it's all about today,
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and just taking this kind
of stuff in.
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It just passes us by every day
really, this kind of stuff.
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How times change.
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A few years back, I was just getting
in now.
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I mean, the sound I used to hear
every morning was the rattling
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of the milk bottles when I was just
getting in, going to bed.
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To stand here four, five,
six years ago
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and I wouldn't have been able
to see any of this.
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And now, being in the present,
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being in the moment, it's just
amazing, absolutely beautiful.
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Starting above Lastingham in
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the North York Moors, I'll pass
through the village
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and head west along Spaunton Moor
to Hutton-le-Hole,
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a quirky Yorkshire village with
a rich heritage.
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Then onwards and upwards to The Nab
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and across Douthwaite Dale,
before finishing at
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the surprise view in Gillamoor.
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Although I'm walking by myself,
I'm carrying this camera on
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a selfie stick, which films me
and everything around me.
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RAIN PATTERS
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I don't mind this weather.
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I can't believe how quickly the
clouds have come
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straight over from over
the hills there.
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It's nice to be out.
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I am a morning person - I do,
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I do like getting up early in
the mornings,
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but I don't get
to go on these kind of walks.
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I've got a one-year-old,
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a four-year-old
and a seven-year-old,
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so when the kids get up in
the morning,
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a couple of cups of coffee
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and just have a little 15 minutes on
my own before
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the manic starts at home
before school.
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And then, try and get a walk
with my wife, Kate,
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and the baby.
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But that's through the town
where we live and we try
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and do a couple of miles
a day if we can.
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But it's nothing like this, I mean,
this is absolutely amazing.
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I don't know what they call
that stuff, but you don't
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want to get on that in
a golf course.
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What you find strange is that
I can hear
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the rain hitting my jacket.
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At home, when we're walking,
you don't really hear that
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cos of the cars and the traffic
and, and the hustle and bustle.
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See how quiet it is and serene.
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It's so nice to be out here today
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and living in the moment.
Being present.
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I haven't had it too much in my
life, if I'm being honest.
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You know, nearly 54 and,
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and today, I've,
at this moment I have that.
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To have that calmness is something
that I've searched
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for all my life really.
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You know, even I can feel
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the rain whacking against my face
now and it's nice. It's nice.
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Uh...
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Right. Let me see how
I'm going to do this.
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SPLASH
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Oh, no!
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No, Paul.
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Right. Here we go.
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# One... One, two, three
One, two, three, four, five
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# Six, seven, eight
Nine, ten
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# Six, seven, eight, nine, ten. #
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Argh! Aargh!
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HE LAUGHS
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See, that's what
happens when you get
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the London boy walking in
the countryside.
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But, all OK.
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Oh!
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HE SIGHS
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Right. Composure.
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HE LAUGHS
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You've got to laugh at yourself.
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If you don't laugh at yourself,
you've got no chance.
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You know I have eight,
I have eight children.
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I've been married three times,
you know, through addictions.
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I used to think I was a...
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I always thought of myself as
a good dad.
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You know, I think the kids would
say, "My dad, he tries his hardest."
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I wasn't a great husband.
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I'm just learning to be a,
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a good husband now,
if I'm being honest,
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where you meet halfway.
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Every day I do try my hardest
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and that's only cos
of my addictions
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and what it's done
to my head really.
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I was a very nervous kid.
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I struggled with attachment really,
always wanting to be with my dad.
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I got very nervous on
a football pitch.
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Nowadays, I think we'd say it was
anxiety, which,
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probably in them days, wasn't
really used as a word.
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I went to the doctor's one day
and my mum said,
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"He keeps on getting palpitations
and can't breathe."
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The doctor just said straight away
"Stop playing football."
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And I carried on playing,
I'd become to cope with that,
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and then I found gambling
and drinking and...
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it just took me into
a different world really.
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Give me confidence, belief,
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took away my worry, for the moment.
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I mean, there's a bull in this
field, I mean...
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..I've got a red rucksack on
and that's a bull.
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I played football,
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I'm not the bravest,
I'm not going to lie.
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I never bet to win lorry-loads
of money really.
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I thought I did but...it just took
me out the way I felt
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and that carried on and then,
you start drinking
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and gambling and then, all of
a sudden, you finish,
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you don't come home,
you let people down round you.
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You let everybody down.
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And then, you lose that
self-worth, you know,
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your respect and then,
you hate yourself.
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Uh...
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Yeah, and, and then, you know what?
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You think, I don't
want to feel like this.
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I don't want to feel worthless,
you know, and lose my respect.
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And then you think, right,
what can I do? And you go,
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you know what I do.
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I go and have a drink and a bet
again cos that
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takes me out the way I feel.
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And it's just a spiral.
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It's just a spiral,
it's just...constant.
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For all the money that you lose
in gambling,
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it's not the money, you know,
it's, it's time.
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You lose time. You know,
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you miss out on things like this,
you know, I've...
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You know, I, I see things now.
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I never used to see things
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and I don't think people understand
that when you're in addictions.
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You don't see stuff.
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It's like...I see everything around
me today,
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I'm aware.
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You know, I have a big tree
in our garden
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and I've only just realised now
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that the leaves on
the tree change colours,
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and I'd never, ever seen that.
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And if you see our garden,
you'd go, "That's impossible."
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Addiction took me away from this
kind of stuff.
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And this is the first time
I've ever, ever done this,
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walked in the big countryside.
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BIRDSONG
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Birds singing, serene.
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HORSES CLOP, LADIES CHATTER
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Morning. Morning. Morning.
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Oh, it's come alive,
this little village.
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You're seeing people around now,
all getting out at
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the morning. Chatting away,
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probably everybody knows each other.
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BIRDSONG
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It's a lot of things coming
back now, like,
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father-in-law passed away not
long ago and...
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you know, and it not really sunk in,
if I'm being honest.
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And my wife has definitely,
course, it's her dad, but...
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he was a good man and...
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Well, a great man, not a good man,
a great man.
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GATE SQUEAKS
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And just coming
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and walking now...
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..really hitting home...
that he's gone.
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Sometimes...I can be a bit...
a bit cold.
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That's what my addictions has done
to me really.
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And it's just hitting home
being here,
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not with the hustle and bustle and,
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and being able to...
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GATE CLANGS
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really...sit
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with my feelings, which
I don't really usually get to do.
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Just...I should be there
for my wife a lot more.
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Welcome to St Mary's.
It's a lovely morning now.
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It's absolutely beautiful out, yeah.
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Are you OK? You having a good
morning? Uh, well,
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we're going to have a service at
about quarter to 11,
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but plenty of time for you
to wander around. Brilliant.
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Can I sit down for five minutes
and just...?
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Of course you can. Sit wherever
you like. Thank you very much.
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It's nice to have peace
and quiet in church.
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I know, yeah. Thank you.
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Yeah, and I just...
Addiction makes you cold.
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Looking back now, I haven't,
I haven't really...had,
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hadn't had death in the family.
Thank God my mum
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and dad are still alive,
and my brothers and sisters
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and the kids and...
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and friends, and I don't...
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Maybe I haven't been there enough
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for my wife in her time of need
with her dad.
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Cos I, I haven't really
understood it.
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If someone talked
to me about addictions for,
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you know, I can sit and talk for
days and days cos I know about it,
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and I've had experiences about it,
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but I haven't had experiences
about death.
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And I've, I have found it hard
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and probably haven't been there
for my wife as much.
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But again, it's only when
you come away
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and you sit with your feelings...
that I understand that now
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and I will be there.
I am there for her
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but I just don't think
I've been there enough.
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You know, I say my prayers every
morning and every night to,
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to stay away from my addictions
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and just try and be
the best person I can be really.
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I'm never going to be perfect,
I know that.
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But just need to be
a nice person, be kind.
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God grant me the serenity to accept
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the things I cannot change,
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the courage to change
the things I can
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and the wisdom to know
the difference. Amen.
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It's a prayer that I,
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I, literally, sometimes have
to say ten times in
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a minute just to get me
to where I am.
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God grant me the serenity to accept
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the things I cannot change,
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the courage to change
the things I can
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and the wisdom to know
the difference.
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I'm going to be quiet now
for five minutes
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and just take this in and,
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and have a moment and pray for...
for my father-in-law.
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BELL TOLLS
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I mean, faith, I think it's
important to have faith.
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I think some people are religious,
some people ain't and,
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you know,
that's everybody's opinion,
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but it, it definitely helped me.
Especially the meetings, I mean...
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AA and GA, I mean, it's...
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if you're not well,
you go to the doctor's
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and get your medicine,
and, and that's what a
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GA meeting's like, Gamblers
Anonymous meetings
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and Alcoholics Anonymous meetings
are like.
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If you don't go, you're not
getting your medicine,
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you're not going to get well.
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If you don't get well,
then it's only one,
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one way it's gonna,
one way it's gonna end up
248
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and that's back doing what you
were doing.
249
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So, yeah, I have...
250
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I have faith.
251
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Sometimes, of course, with what
everything that goes on in
252
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the world, we do question it,
253
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but definitely without
the GA and AA,
254
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you know, I, I wouldn't be able to
live the life I live now.
255
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Even though my wife's great
and she is great
256
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and she understands me,
257
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I still need them meetings
258
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to be around people that have been
in my position before
259
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and have had that experience,
strength and hope.
260
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Yeah, it's a massive thing for me.
261
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You know, I, I do believe
there is a God,
262
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I do believe there is. You know,
263
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I don't think for everything I did,
you know,
264
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like, and I still got
to play football is,
265
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is a miracle really. It's a miracle.
266
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I-I do look at that like someone
was looking over me at all times.
267
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My wife goes to church and her
mother-in-law goes, Kay, and...
268
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I don't know anybody who doesn't
come out of church
269
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and doesn't feel better. Now,
270
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if that's the case,
how does it not work?
271
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It's like meetings,
272
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never been in a meeting
and come out worse, you know?
273
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So, for me it works.
274
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I do believe.
275
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Wow, look at that.
Blown away really.
276
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I've never been anywhere like this
before in my life.
277
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No, it's just, can't...
278
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You just wouldn't think this was
England. I don't know...
279
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I don't know why but you just
wouldn't think this was England.
280
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I mean, look at that,
it's like for miles.
281
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Oh, no. I'm not taking another fall.
282
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Right. Let's work this out, guys.
283
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I'm going to go big rock...
284
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..little rock, big rock.
285
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Ah, straight in.
286
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Straight in.
287
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Right.
288
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Yeah. I'm away.
289
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Argh.
290
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Argh.
291
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Seriously.
292
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,440
All I can feel now here is...
293
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Is the wind
on the back of my head.
294
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I can really, really feel that.
295
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,720
Like, you know what?
296
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That probably happens
every single day of my life.
297
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But I can feel it today.
298
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I'm in the moment, I can feel it.
299
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,200
Morning. Morning.
300
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,200
How are you? Good.
301
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,680
Nice walk? Yeah, yeah.
302
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,480
Hey, I recognise you.
Yeah, he's a footballer.
303
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,040
Oh, do you?
Footballer, retired footballer.
304
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,040
Yes! Hello, how are you?
Oh, fine, thank you.
305
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,040
Do you do this every Sunday?
Yeah, more or less.
306
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It's lovely, innit?
307
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,040
It's just good
for the soul, know what I mean?
308
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,240
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Absolutely beautiful.
309
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040
It just takes you out
of everything else,
310
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your mind clears.
It's just wonderful.
311
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,240
You're right what you say,
I mean that's exactly
312
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how I felt in my mind,
you're like...
313
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Cos where I live it's...
You know, it's...
314
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It's hustle and bustle,
do you know what I mean?
315
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,880
You still live in London,
do you? Yeah.
316
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,680
So... But here it's just...
It's that sereneness, you know.
317
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,160
I always say to people, you know,
318
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if you've got issues,
get out there. Yeah.
319
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,800
Do your walking. Get... You know,
we only live a couple of miles away.
320
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,000
Yeah.
So for us this is our local patch.
321
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,360
Oh, that's lovely, innit?
322
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,320
So, I mean, we can go out
whenever we want, you know.
323
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,040
This is amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
324
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,560
I'm glad you're enjoying it.
325
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,360
And there's a good pub as well.
326
00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:24,320
I walk past pubs now.
I don't walk into pubs any more.
327
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,320
Oh! That's a nice one. If you do
want a pint, there's a nice one.
328
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,720
You can have a soft drink.
Yeah, I could have a soft drink.
329
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,320
That's like going
in the hairdressers.
330
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,800
If you go in the hairdressers,
331
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,480
go in there every day
of the week you'll have
332
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,280
a haircut by the end of the week.
333
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840
That's a shame.
Can we think of a good cafe?
334
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,560
A nice black coffee.
335
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,480
Anyway, nice...
And you, nice to meet you.
336
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,000
I wish you all the best.
337
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,640
Have a lovely day.
Take care. Bye-bye.
338
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,440
That's the thing
when you come out,
339
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,840
you do meet lovely people
as well, you know.
340
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,920
There's... Again when you live in
London, it's the hustle and bustle,
341
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,960
everybody's walking
with their head on the floor
342
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,960
and it's 100 mile an hour,
and I understand that.
343
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,720
People have got to get to work
and things to do.
344
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,240
But, you know, it's very rare
anybody says, "How are you?"
345
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,320
If you turned round and went,
346
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,920
"No, I'm not really good
at the moment, struggling,"
347
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,160
people would just walk off,
they don't really listen,
348
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320
they're just saying it
for the sake of saying it.
349
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,560
You know,
with addictions you have to talk.
350
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,840
Addiction wants you on your own.
351
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,640
It wants you on your own.
352
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,640
It don't want you talking to people.
353
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:45,000
It wants you on your own,
so it can feed,
354
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,560
you know, it can feed you.
355
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,720
You know, and you do
what you do, and...
356
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,640
And that's why it's important
to talk to people.
357
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,280
Cos you don't know who's struggling.
358
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,840
You don't know.
359
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,480
No-one ever knows who the person is.
360
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,720
It's quite hidden,
and people sometimes are ashamed.
361
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040
So, it's nice to talk.
362
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,440
Right, is this gate
a Krypton Factor job or what?
363
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,600
Urgh.
364
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,880
Right, come on, Paul.
365
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,160
Ah, done it.
366
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,680
Krypton Factor.
367
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,840
Argh, argh. Oh, seriously.
368
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000
That's seven times
I've nearly fallen now.
369
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,440
I need to put some studs
in these boots.
370
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,520
PAUL LAUGHS
371
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,640
Oh, here come the sheep.
372
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,520
Here they come.
373
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,600
Look at that, that's just amazing!
374
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,400
The way them dogs gather them sheep
and dictate them
375
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,680
and go wherever they want to go.
376
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,840
They're off.
377
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,000
Wow! Look at that, eggs for sale.
378
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,600
Oh, my God.
They've got eggs for sale there.
379
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,120
Wow.
380
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:05,680
Trustworthy place, huh?
381
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,880
Amazing.
382
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,920
Fresh, like, eggs.
Imagine getting up in the morning,
383
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,320
walking here and getting your eggs,
going home.
384
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,440
Cooking egg and bacon.
385
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,480
From where I come from,
it's a different world.
386
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,320
I used to live in North Yorkshire
387
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,240
for about eight months
in Hutton Rudby,
388
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,560
the place was called.
389
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,760
It was a Middlesbrough clubhouse.
390
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,320
And I lived there with my brother,
391
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,040
and then Gazza moved in with us,
392
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,720
with Jimmy Five Bellies.
393
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,920
And this was round the corner.
394
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,920
And we never went out, like,
395
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280
as you do in them days
when you're younger.
396
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,880
Played football, went home,
trained, drunk.
397
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,120
And we never went out walking.
398
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:58,400
I mean, the only time we ever walked
was probably to the pub.
399
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,360
So, that was probably about it.
400
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,480
Yeah, I won't beat myself up about
it but it would have been nice.
401
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,960
It would have been nice to do them
kind of things and get out
402
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,680
but I didn't know any different.
403
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,360
I didn't have a choice,
you know, I was an alcoholic and,
404
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:23,920
and a compulsive gambler and I,
405
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,800
I was ill and I didn't know
I was ill,
406
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,320
so I didn't have a choice.
Today I have a choice.
407
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,240
So I can come out and choose to go
408
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040
on this absolute stunning,
beautiful walk.
409
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000
Hello. Hiya, morning, you OK?
THEY RESPOND INDISTINCTLY
410
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,160
Good.
411
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,920
Yeah, absolutely amazing, amazing.
412
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,280
I've been on a few walks into
Richmond or Kingston,
413
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,560
but you're always looking on
the floor cos you always,
414
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,880
if there's anything you might fall
over or trip over.
415
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,760
So you don't really get
to see everything around you.
416
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,240
STREAM GURGLES
417
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,200
And that lovely noise of the stream.
418
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,200
It just...
419
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,360
It's just that noise is lovely.
420
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,280
GURGLE OF STREAM CONTINUES
421
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,720
It's just flowing.
422
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,920
And there's two different
noises of the stream.
423
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,760
One where it's coming through,
424
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,120
where it's coming through
there like at a pace
425
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,720
and it's making a different noise.
426
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,080
And then when you get down to there,
it's a completely different noise.
427
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,880
BIRDS TWEET
428
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,520
You know, you can hear a couple
of birds singing,
429
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,640
but nothing like first thing this
morning when I set out.
430
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,680
When you get in the moment
and you sort of,
431
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,440
you, you can stand still
and you can be in the present,
432
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,640
the amount of things you hear
and see are,
433
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,400
are quite extraordinary, really.
434
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,200
And as I said before, I mean,
435
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120
with my addiction
and getting in early in the morning
436
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000
and get two hours' sleep, you know,
437
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,480
them birds singing was like
ah, you know,
438
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240
I just wanted to throw a brick at
the tree, if I'm being honest,
439
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,800
just to make 'em fly away.
440
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760
But, you know, now,
I, I love that sound again...
441
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
BIRD TWEETS
442
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,320
STREAM GURGLES
443
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,200
Beautiful.
444
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Haven't got a care in the world.
445
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,520
BIRDS TWEET, PIGEON COOS
446
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,760
DOG BARKS
447
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,320
CLAIRE: Good girl.
448
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,400
I wonder if everybody knows
everybody and,
449
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,200
you know, I think, like,
what's it like at Christmas?
450
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,200
Does everybody get together
or is there...
451
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,800
..people that don't talk to people
and don't like each other?
452
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Or does everybody go
to The Crown pub?
453
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,800
But when I go on holiday I, like,
I look at people
454
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560
and I think, I wonder what
they do at night-time,
455
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,680
what they do.
Do they, like, watch telly,
456
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,880
do they have their dinner and then
they settle down and watch telly?
457
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,480
And I just, I wonder
what their lives are like.
458
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,280
DOG BARKS
459
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,880
CHILDREN CHATTER INDISTINCTLY
460
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,040
CHILD LAUGHS
461
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,560
BAGPIPER PLAYS SCOTLAND THE BRAVE
462
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,800
I know I've been walking a long way,
463
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,120
but I'm not in Scotland yet, am I?
Seriously, am I?
464
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,800
I think that's got to be the hardest
thing in the world to do,
465
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,400
isn't it, is play the bagpipes?
One of 'em.
466
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000
I mean, it's got to be easier
to learn German, innit?
467
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,400
MUSIC CONTINUES
468
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Wow, look at that.
469
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,920
So hard to play.
470
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,560
MUSIC STOPS
471
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,560
Amazing.
472
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,280
Thank you. How long have
you learned how to play them?
473
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,000
Uh, well, since I was
eight years old.
474
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,840
Um, I've,
I've been playing since I was 11,
475
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,440
uh, on the,
the actual great pipes.
476
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,240
And been in a band for ten years.
477
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,480
Call me naive,
478
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,960
but what's the difference between
a bagpipe and that pipe?
479
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,920
Uh, well, this is a bagpipe. OK.
480
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Um, but, uh,
481
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,760
when you're a learner you start
with, uh, just this, with this...
482
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,080
Oh, OK. ..called a,
called the practice chanter.
483
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,120
And when you're, you're old enough,
you get what's called
484
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,280
the Goose, which is basically
485
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,320
these, with a bag, but no drones.
486
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,240
And then, as you progress,
487
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,200
you get your drones fitted
and one by one,
488
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,040
they, they come out.
489
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,160
So, I started out
with just these two when
490
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,920
I got given my drones.
Now I'm with all three.
491
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Is it as hard to play as
what we think?
492
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,560
Um, well, well, yes and, and no.
493
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,280
It's kind of like weightlifting,
plus breath control,
494
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,040
plus hand-eye coordination
and memory to boot.
495
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,120
And where are you from?
Uh, originally Edinburgh but, uh...
496
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:17,640
Oh, really? Yeah, but moved down age
five to, to Yorkshire, so...
497
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,720
Wow, you don't, yeah, your accent
seems like further south.
498
00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:24,920
No, uh, uh,
no, not from further south.
499
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,760
HE LAUGHS
500
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,920
What about the neighbours,
happy with you playing?
501
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,320
Oh, yeah, delighted. Yeah?
502
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Delighted.
We're all neighbourly around here.
503
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,680
We respect each other's wishes.
504
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,480
Oh, OK, brilliant.
Well, I wish you all the best.
505
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,000
Oh, thank you. Take care.
506
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,720
And that was amazing, thank you.
Thank you. Take care.
507
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,600
I mean, what a lovely village, wow.
508
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,920
It'll be interesting, like this
is a lovely Sunday morning.
509
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,800
I wonder what it's like Monday,
510
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,800
I wonder if they're all running
round hectic like maniacs,
511
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,080
like, rushing around.
512
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,760
Like, eating their toast on the way
513
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,400
to work as they run out the door.
514
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Or is it all calm
and collected like this?
515
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,960
It's like something you see in
a film, really.
516
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Everything about it,
it's, like, perfect.
517
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,400
I imagine in the summer
it's absolutely mind-blowing.
518
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,400
I mean, people would be out on
the green playing,
519
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,920
kids in the stream, beautiful.
520
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,720
I wonder what it would have been
like if,
521
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,640
if I was born in a village.
522
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,960
Would I have been
a professional footballer?
523
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,880
Oh, he's got the Boro on.
524
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Up the Boro. Oh, wow.
525
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,800
How are you, you all right?
Yeah, good, you?
526
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,280
Yeah, good form, thank you.
527
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,440
Hello, mate,
what's your name, little one?
528
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,160
What's your name?
Tommy Durrant.
529
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,920
We've just been to Gillamoor,
haven't we?
530
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Played football at
Gillamoor. Yeah?
531
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,840
Then we come up here,
we treat him to a milkshake.
532
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Oh, what's your favourite one?
533
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Strawberry. Strawberry?
534
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,920
Yeah, that's my favourite,
I might go and get one after.
535
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,280
Right, Tommy, I better go.
Yeah, well, say bye. Bye.
536
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480
Tommy, see you later,
I hope you have a nice milkshake.
537
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,400
Say bye, say thank you very much.
Thank you...
538
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,440
See you later, thank you, take care.
Up the Boro. Up the Boro.
539
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Up the Boro.
540
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,120
I left Boro in a bit of a bad way
541
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,600
and I think the fans didn't
like me when I left,
542
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,040
but they didn't really understand my
circumstances and why I left.
543
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,960
I didn't leave on good terms.
544
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,320
It's always something I
look back on and think,
545
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,320
you know,
I hope the fans understood that,
546
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,520
you know, I had a great
season the year before.
547
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,120
And we got promoted,
which was my job, or part of it.
548
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,880
And then I left, but it was that,
549
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,160
that was the reason I left,
was my addictions were,
550
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,480
were kicking in bad at the time.
551
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,360
So, I needed to get home.
552
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,040
So, hopefully they'll understand
that, hopefully.
553
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,720
DOGS PANT
554
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,400
Thanks goodness it's not raining
like it was this morning.
555
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Yeah, it's so much better.
Oh, so much better.
556
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,240
If it wasn't for my dad,
I wouldn't have been a footballer.
557
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:27,640
I mean, the sacrifice that he had
to make taking me to,
558
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,600
all the way to Highbury on a,
559
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,040
on a Monday and a Thursday to train.
560
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,480
You don't really,
561
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,920
really get to sit down and say that
to my dad if you know what I mean.
562
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,440
I've never really sat down
and said to my dad thank you.
563
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,320
But, yeah...
564
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,240
..I've never really sat down
with my dad and said thank you.
565
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,640
You know, we didn't have a lot.
566
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,920
My dad was a coalman.
567
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,200
Lived on a council estate...
568
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,880
So, we didn't have a lot,
569
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,360
but my dad made sure he took
me everywhere.
570
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,960
And that's why I'm trying
to do that for my boy now,
571
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,720
my youngest boy Freddy, he's seven.
572
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,000
I've got three older boys, Charlie,
Ben and Sam
573
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,040
and Sam is a good footballer.
574
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,440
And I wasn't around to take him
everywhere to be a footballer and...
575
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,720
..I sort of blame myself for that.
576
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:29,240
Because I, I got
divorced and I moved club.
577
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:31,040
I left Arsenal,
578
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,120
went to Boro and then me
and his mum got divorced.
579
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,640
And I lived in Birmingham.
580
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,480
And I wasn't there
to take him all round
581
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,720
the place like my dad took me.
582
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,160
And to give him a chance and...
583
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,760
..that hurts a bit cos
I should have.
584
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,840
Argh, argh, argh, whoa.
585
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640
That reminds me, I used
to be coming out the pub like that.
586
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,480
But I loved playing football,
I just,
587
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,160
it's all I know, really.
588
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,680
It's all I know.
589
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,000
You know, if you sat down,
590
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,960
I could talk about football
all day, every day.
591
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,040
But, oh, wow.
592
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,480
Anything else, big regrets, really.
593
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,240
You know, there's a lot of things.
594
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,080
I can't really read, I'm dyslexic.
595
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,040
My wife's a school teacher
596
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,080
and if I'm writing texts out I,
I literally now have to ask her,
597
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,480
cos where to put a full stop and
a comma and, you know,
598
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,200
and the way the kids are now with
599
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,360
the way they spell things.
Like... puh, ahh, ruh.
600
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,720
I mean, I say to my wife,
"How do you spell this?"
601
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,200
and she'll like go,
"It's...tuh, huh,"
602
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,760
and I go,
"No, just tell me, is it T H?"
603
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,840
You know, I don't, I don't
understand all them letters.
604
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,280
I should have done more at school,
I really should have.
605
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,680
What is this?
606
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,160
Oh,
607
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,400
it's not Krypton Factor,
that was easy.
608
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,680
The things I worry about now
is I'm an old dad.
609
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,480
So I've got a one-year-old,
610
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,480
a four-year-old
and a seven-year-old.
611
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,240
And I sit there sometimes
and I, I think,
612
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,160
you know, how long have I got?
613
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,280
If I've got 20 years left, which is,
which is a lot of years, that's 74.
614
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,960
You know, and you hear people that
are dying younger than that.
615
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,520
I think, you know, I'm not
going to see my kids grow up.
616
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,320
And that,
617
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,840
that scares me to death,
if I'm being honest.
618
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,880
That's how my mind works sometimes,
619
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,480
I can be living in the day
and then I'm thinking,
620
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600
you know,
what about when Sadie's 21?
621
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,320
You know, she's one years old.
622
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,040
I mean, every now and then I,
I get that fear now and it's,
623
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,400
it's something that, you know,
624
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,280
I have to look into, what it is and,
625
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,000
and trying to understand why,
why I get like that.
626
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,360
But I accept today the way I am.
627
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,280
I like Paul today.
628
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,720
I don't,
629
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,960
I don't look at Paul any more
and think,
630
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,920
"Cor, I can't stand you,
I hate you."
631
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,240
And when you're like that
632
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:13,640
I don't see how you can love anybody
else when you don't like yourself.
633
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,240
And that's why I probably
struggled over the years.
634
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,720
But now I can give my love
to my wife cos I,
635
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,400
uh, you know, I like myself.
I like Paul.
636
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,040
And that's nice.
637
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,240
Uh, I've always wanted
to be someone else.
638
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,200
Every time I meet someone,
I'm like, "I wish I was like him,
639
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,680
"I wish I was like him."
You know, I'd always be,
640
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,600
I'd always be itchy in my own skin,
it was really weird.
641
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Always uncomfortable.
642
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,840
But today I don't, you know,
today I like being me.
643
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,840
You know, I respect me now.
644
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,840
I didn't used to respect me.
645
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,320
People used to come up to me and go
"Oh, my God, you're a legend.
646
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,320
"Oh, you're, you're brilliant,"
and I used to...
647
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,520
The first thing I used to say to
people was, "No, I'm not,
648
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,920
"no, I'm not, no, don't say that."
649
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,400
Cos I used to think if you knew
what I was doing you wouldn't think
650
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,920
I was like that. I'm horrible.
651
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,600
And today I can stand there
and people will go to me
652
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,640
and they go, "Oh, you're a legend,"
and, and all I could say,
653
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,640
or they say
"What a great player," like that,
654
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,520
is thank you, thank you.
It's so simple,
655
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,720
two words, thank you.
656
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,480
It's their, their opinion and I,
657
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,320
I can, I'm happy with that now.
658
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,760
I don't have to sit there
and go, "Oh, no, no, I'm not."
659
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,400
And to accept that I'm,
I am, I'm a nice person.
660
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,120
I'm a nice person.
661
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,160
Just an ill person
trying to get well.
662
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,240
And just standing up here now
and reflecting on my life so far.
663
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,120
Some memories stick
and they're so important.
664
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,480
And they last forever.
665
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,840
And if it wasn't for my dad I
wouldn't have been who I am now.
666
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,320
It just makes me reflect on
667
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,600
a poem written by
Michael Josephson -
668
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,120
What Will Matter.
669
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,880
"What will matter is not your
success
670
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,080
"but your significance.
671
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,760
"What will matter is not what
you learn
672
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,720
"but what you taught.
673
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
"What will matter is every act
of integrity,
674
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,600
"compassion,
courage or sacrifice that enriched,
675
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,200
"empowered or encouraged others
to emulate your example.
676
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,880
"What will matter is not your
competence but your character."
677
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,840
HE INHALES
678
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,480
EXHALES
679
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,440
Right, here we go.
680
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Argh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
681
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,280
Ooh!
682
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,520
Ooh.
683
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Urgh, ooh.
684
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,280
Whoa.
685
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
686
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,880
Whoa, easy, brrr.
687
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,960
CHUCKLING: I'm like Bambi on ice,
I am.
688
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,280
You feel like your own,
the only person on the Earth.
689
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,840
Just on your own.
690
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,000
You feel like you're the only person
in the world at the moment.
691
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,880
It's just the quietness.
692
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,320
Really strange, you just don't,
693
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,960
I don't get this quietness.
694
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,480
There's just no noise at all.
695
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,400
Just me talking.
696
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,640
Hi. How are you?
697
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,240
Yeah, good.
698
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:44,760
How are far are you running?
699
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Oh, maybe about ten miles.
700
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Really? Yeah.
701
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,880
You don't find it hard,
it's a bit uneven, innit?
702
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,600
All part of the fun, isn't it?
703
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,560
But don't you find
it psychologically...?
704
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,360
Because it's so open and I don't
like running on the streets,
705
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,880
but at least it's left, right, le...
706
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,760
You don't see like... Like here
it's just miles in the distance.
707
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,280
Do you know what I mean?
708
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,160
What, do you think it's a bit,
709
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,120
overwhelming or something or
a bit like...?
710
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,240
Yeah, I ju... I don't see the end.
711
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:12,320
Yeah, you like to have
a goal, you mean?
712
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,440
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
I like to have a goal.
713
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,520
"I'm heading for there.
That's where I'm going."
714
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Yeah, and that's it. Yeah.
715
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,160
But here I just feel it's like,
it's never-ending, it's like.
716
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,320
Maybe I suppose it's kind
of like enjoying the moment,
717
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,240
rather than like
this is my destination.
718
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:27,480
Yeah.
719
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,360
And I suppose that's like
different reasons why peop...
720
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,040
I suppose that's different reasons
why people run or do things,
721
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,040
isn't it? Yeah.
Some people do it for the goals.
722
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,120
Do you know what I mean, like?
723
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,600
It's always trying to be faster,
stronger.
724
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,240
And then, then you sort of learn
to actually,
725
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,720
I'm here, I'm feeling good.
726
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:46,240
Today it's been nice, like I have
lived in the moment,
727
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:47,360
do you know what I mean?
728
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,800
So you've just been able to just...
729
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,080
Yeah, take it in and it's
been, it's been,
730
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,440
I'm not saying it's been easy,
731
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,600
cos, like, a lot's come up while
I've been walking,
732
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,800
do you know what I mean?
733
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,320
Where it wouldn't have really come
up in before.
734
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,200
Yeah, I know we appreciate
the good days.
735
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,040
And a bit more random, like, I take
my wife sometimes for granted.
736
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,200
I'm, I don't
mean that in a horrible way,
737
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,640
but, you know,
but she's amazing, really.
738
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,280
And, you know, the way
she understands me, you know?
739
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,480
When I'm away and I,
740
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,880
and I'm at, like, things like
this or I'm away from home,
741
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,120
I appreciate her so much more,
if you know what I mean.
742
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,160
And when I'm with her, it's like...
Aw, I know, the day to day.
743
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,480
She's moaning at me again.
I saw you on telly a few months ago
744
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,480
and I think you have done
a lot of good, you know...
745
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,760
Oh. ..by putting yourself out there.
It must be really hard.
746
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,880
Yeah. Thank you.
747
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,520
And I, and I too... And I took it
with me actually, yeah, yeah.
748
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,960
Oh, thank you, I appreciate that.
749
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,640
I'm glad I've met you actually to
say that.
750
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,000
Oh, do you? No, thank you.
Honestly. Yeah.
751
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,360
I came away that you were
a good person.
752
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Oh, cheers, I am a good person.
Just remember that.
753
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,720
I am, thank you. And I'm sure your
wife sometimes believes that.
754
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,000
Yeah, she does. Take care.
Nice to see you.
755
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,760
Bye-bye, have a good day, bye.
756
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,160
It's nice when you meet people
like that.
757
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:06,360
HAMMERING
758
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,600
BIRDSONG
759
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,320
At 53, I appreciate this now,
this walk.
760
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,720
You know, I'm not trying to chase
anything today.
761
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,960
The thing I probably appreciate
more than anything is how...
762
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,440
..how much I love my wife, really.
763
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,560
You know,
how great she is to me and...
764
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,480
..you know, when I come a step away,
I just realise how much I love her
765
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,800
and how much
she's been a rock for me
766
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,720
and helped me
through some bad times.
767
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Bad times.
768
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,600
And she's been there for me
and it takes...
769
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,760
..it takes things like this,
where there's no distractions,
770
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,800
there's no phone,
771
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,200
there's no internet,
772
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,880
there's no TV.
773
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,920
And it's, like,
just walking in the fresh air
774
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,320
in the middle of nowhere
with quietness and stillness.
775
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,200
You just appreciate
how much I love my wife
776
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,040
and what an amazing person she is.
777
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,680
But I do have to give myself credit
sometimes and think...
778
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,400
..you know,
and remember where I was and...
779
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,280
..you know, that I wanted to...
You know, I wanted to kill myself.
780
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,760
I wanted to do that
a lot of times. So...
781
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,160
..it's important to...
782
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,240
HE GRUNTS
783
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,560
..to remember,
you know, where I was
784
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,040
and give myself,
you know, credit for that.
785
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,720
GENTLE BIRDSONG
786
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,120
You know, where I've been, where...
787
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,640
You know, when I've wanted to,
you know, kill myself...
788
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,840
..you know, and tried to end it all,
cos I didn't see a way out,
789
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,320
I didn't see how I could
stop drinking or gambling
790
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,520
and letting my wife down constantly,
791
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,840
you know, I-I'd have never been
able to do all this kind of stuff.
792
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,560
This was never in my wildest dreams,
793
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,840
that I could come out
and do a walk like this,
794
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,360
and I think that's for everybody
out there that there -
795
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,360
there is hope. There is hope.
796
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,760
I mean, I...
You know, when I'm quite down -
797
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,640
and I do get down days, I'm not
going to sit here and say I don't -
798
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,520
I play REM - Everybody Hurts.
799
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,640
I think it's, it's a poignant song,
800
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,560
I think it's a song to...
hang in to there.
801
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,920
To hang in there when you're...
when times are dark.
802
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,320
You know, some people think,
"Oh, it's a depressing song,"
803
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,800
and all that but I just...
You know, it's a song that I...
804
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,960
..that I put on
cos it does remind me -
805
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,520
everybody...
You know, you're not alone.
806
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,040
And I think, you know,
when you want to kill yourself,
807
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,440
it's a...it's a proper thing
of being on your own
808
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,400
and you think you're
the only person, no-one loves you,
809
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,200
you let people down,
everybody hates you.
810
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,880
And, you know, I just think
that song, REM - Everybody Hurts,
811
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,280
I just think, you know,
there's lines in that
812
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,120
when it just says,
"Hold on. Hold on."
813
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,200
HE EXHALES
814
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,960
It saddens me that I even thought
about doing what I wanted -
815
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,880
to kill myself. It's...
816
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,920
That's how dark it gets.
817
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,720
HE SNIFFS
818
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,360
And I sit here now and I think,
"How did I get like that?"
819
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,120
But it does, it comes on quickly.
820
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,360
You know, it's something
that...just comes.
821
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,320
And if you don't talk and then
it gets worse and worse and...
822
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,480
I just think that's why
it's important to talk,
823
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,880
get out in the fresh air.
824
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,400
BIRDSONG
825
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,360
Look at that.
826
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,480
Thank God I'm still here and I can
enjoy it. I can enjoy this.
827
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,720
BIRDSONG
828
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,000
HE PANTS
829
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,000
Come on, Paul.
830
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,800
WATER TRICKLES
831
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,880
Who would have thought
in their wildest dreams
832
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,240
that Paul Merson
would be doing a walking programme,
833
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:13,680
talking about his life
and the countryside? And I...
834
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:19,080
That, for me, shows how much
I've...I've come on in my life,
835
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,520
that I can get asked
to do things like this now.
836
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,040
But I don't want it to end there.
You know, this is just the start.
837
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,880
Phwoar!
838
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,880
HE PANTS
839
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,040
Like life - keep on going.
840
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,920
Sometimes it's an uphill battle.
Just got to keep on going.
841
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,480
And then it levels itself out.
842
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,680
And sometimes it's straight,
843
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,160
and sometimes it's even great
and it's downhill
844
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,240
and you just slide with life.
845
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:54,720
Then it gets harder.
846
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,080
And you go uphill like this again.
847
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,480
Just hanging in there.
Just hanging in there.
848
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,480
But the good days outweigh
the bad days by a long way.
849
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,680
By a long way.
850
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,640
HE SIGHS
851
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,640
I try and get the message across
to people...
852
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,560
I mean, if it helps one person,
it's more than one -
853
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,600
it helps their family, it helps
their kids or their mum and dad
854
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,280
or their brothers and sisters
and their friends understand.
855
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,720
And that's what I just wanted to
give people or someone out there -
856
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,000
a chance to be able to change
their life around,
857
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,120
and for the better.
858
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,480
WINGS FLUTTER
859
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,800
Amazing.
860
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,000
I see colour. Wow.
861
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,240
And mud, green,
and then you get a snowdrop.
862
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,960
HE PANTS
863
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,960
Oh.
864
00:55:57,720 --> 00:55:59,200
Look at that sun.
865
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,760
Oh, well, you can't write that.
866
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,400
The village of Gillamoor.
867
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:14,720
# Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! #
868
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:16,040
Ah...
869
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,560
Feels we're on the top of the world.
870
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,000
Sat on some benches in my time
but this is a... Oh!
871
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,080
What a bench.
872
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,920
Ah...
873
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Imagine you come and getting up
and sitting here every morning.
874
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,600
Wow.
875
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,240
They must be queuing up
to sit on this bench. Every day.
876
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,600
BIRDSONG
877
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,400
This walk has really taught me
how fortunate I am,
878
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,800
how lucky I am and what a...
and what a life I've had so far.
879
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,360
I needed today just to...
just with a clear head,
880
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,440
cos, you know,
when you've got three little kids
881
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,200
and you're in that hectic life
of get up in the morning,
882
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,880
get ready, get to school,
drop 'em off, that's life.
883
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,120
Of course it is -
that's life for a lot of people.
884
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,960
And I understand that
and I love that, I wouldn't swap it.
885
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,080
But sometimes you take the people
that love you very dearly
886
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,360
for granted. And
I just think today has...
887
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:51,320
..has really helped me really
hit home how much my wife helps me
888
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,320
and how much I love her and how
fortunate I am to be with her.
889
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,280
And I've never really
said that to her.
890
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,760
Who would have thought
a walk in Yorkshire in the winter
891
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,480
would have made me feel like this?
892
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,000
Very blessed today that I've
been able to do what I've done
893
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,720
and I really, really loved today.
Really loved it.
894
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,320
Can't wait to get home now
and see my wife and kids,
895
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,280
and tell my wife
how much I love her.
896
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,640
BIRDSONG
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