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(eerie music)
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- Good afternoon.
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Pine Island Road?
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It’s cool.
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(tense music)
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We’re here, sir.
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(eerie music)
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- Everything was normal
all up until
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the last period of the day.
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- Early in the morning, we had
a fire drill.
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Seemed like any other day
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other than it was Valentine’s Day.
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- I was on the first floor of the
freshman building
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in my Math class and that day we
were taking a test.
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- I was standing in front
of the class
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doing a lecture on Sigmund Freud
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and theories of personality.
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- I was taking my Snapchat videos
and just having fun
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with my friend Maddy and Morgan
who were next to me.
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Ooh, it’s cute!
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It’s cute.
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(students chattering)
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- Kickin’ the boots.
- Oh, are they talking?
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- [Student] Yup.
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- No, sideways.
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- [Student] Maddy, are you
trying to flirt with me?
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- [Maddy] Yeah.
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- [Student] Really, which one?
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- [Maddy] DMV.
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- [Student] Really?
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- I was in my
fourth period class,
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Ms. Reoven’s AP Psychology.
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Excited about, it was
Valentine’s Day,
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so we were all just kinda
chit-chatting
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and then we went inside.
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- [Student] Definitely
not talking to you.
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- [Maddy] Yeah, you know like.
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- [Ivanna] Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm.
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(tense music)
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- I was teaching history of the
Holocaust class,
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it was the last class of the day.
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- I remember I had my
headphones in
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and just waiting for the next assignment
to be announced.
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- I was on the third floor of the
freshman building
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and we were just writing Valentine’s
Day cards.
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- Writing a letter to somebody
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we either really hate or love.
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Some people doing their
significant other,
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mom, dad, dog, stuff like that.
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- To have about 38 kids
in there,
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it’s very noisy and animated.
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Everybody’s anxious to get out.
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It was about 2:20
and I know this
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because I’m always
looking at the clock.
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Teachers always gauge
their class by the time
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and we had about 20
minutes left in class.
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School ends at 2:40.
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(doors clacking)
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- There was a kid who saw him and
saw him with a gun.
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- [Charlie] In the very beginning, right?
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- In the very beginning before
he started firing.
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The shooter told him to get
out ’cause it’s gonna get ugly.
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He was probably scared
out of his mind.
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I can’t blame him for that,
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but he did go and make somebody
aware of what he saw.
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It was just unfortunate that
it was too late.
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- We were listening to music
and just talking
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’cause we didn’t have anymore work to do.
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Usually whoever sits
at the back of the room
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usually answers the door.
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I went to answer the door, so I
paused my music,
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I stood up and as I was standing
up, I heard the gunshots.
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(eerie music)
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- We heard the first gunshots,
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and I don’t even remember, it
was so quick,
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I was sitting in my desk
one minute,
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and I was under my
teacher’s desk the next.
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- [Charlie] That must’ve terrorized
your class.
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- Yes.
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At that point we were all screaming,
yelling, no, lay down, |||||||||||
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this isn’t a drill,
this is real.
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- My classroom was the first classroom
that was shot into.
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When the first shots were heard,
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I honestly, I thought it
was a drill
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because something like this,
it can’t be real.
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- I remember everyone throwing
themselves on the floor,
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crawling to wherever we felt
the safest,
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behind the teacher’s desk to
across the door, wherever.
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- When I saw my
injured students,
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I realized that this was real.
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- He didn’t get the chance
to stand up from his seat.
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He just, just laid there,
blood going everywhere
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and no one really
knew what to do.
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- One student got
shrapnel in his head,
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another student had shrapnel
all up and down his arms
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and he was sitting next
to two of the students
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that were shot, so he
was covered in blood.
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Students were in all
areas of the classroom
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trying to just hide
and protect themselves
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because we had no warning.
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We were given no warning.
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- The gunshots kept on going
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and then I heard the glass on
my door shatter.
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And since I was under the desk,
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I could only see the
people in front of me.
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So, I couldn’t see my
teacher at the time,
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but I later found out
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that she was actually
standing right by the door
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’cause at the time, she
thought it was a drill.
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Everybody in the room kind
of thought it was drill,
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and then I heard the
glass on my door shatter.
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- [Operator] 911, what
is your emergency?
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- [Caller] Please
help, please help.
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Stoneman Douglas High School.
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- [Operator] What school is it?
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- [Caller] A shooter, a shooter.
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- [Operator] Okay,
is anybody injured?
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- [Caller] Yes, yes, a lot of blood.
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Please help, please!
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- [Caller] Marjory Stoneman
Douglas High School
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is being shot up.
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- [Operator] lt’s being shot up?
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Are you at the school?
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(staticky buzzing)
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I can’t hear you, are
you at the school?
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(dial tone buzzing)
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- I never heard real life
gunshots,
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so I was sitting there processing,
like what is this?
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Is this really what I think it is?
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And at that moment,
my friend Helena,
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behind me, she pushed my shoulders,
and she said, Sam,
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and that’s the moment
when I knew I had to move.
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I knew this was real.
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- The class split in half.
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Half of us went to what I call
the safe corner.
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It was out of the
view of the window
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and then the other half of us
went to, I call the bad corner
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because we were in complete view
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of the window that
was in the door.
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For me, it was what I saw first.
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I saw that corner first
and I just ran there.
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- I went straight to the corner
right in front of me,
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which ended up being straight
across from the door,
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and it took two seconds
to realize,
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guys, we need to move, this is stupid.
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So then, I ended up being
next to Helena and Nick
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and then some other people
huddled in the corner.
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- I remember my
friend, Helena, again,
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she was behind me and
she whispered in my ear,
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she was saying grab a book,
grab a book, maybe it’ll help.
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And I just reached and grabbed
a book and I held it up.
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It was literally like so tiny,
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it probably didn’t any make a
difference, but I held it up.
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(eerie music)
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- Within seconds of that
first shot,
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the gunman was ambushing my
door and shot through the glass.
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They all went scrambling
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and we just heard
the shots very loud
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and it came in
through the classroom
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and he was just aiming anywhere,
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anywhere that he found movement.
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(students chattering)
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- [Student] Holy sh.
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(gun firing) Oh, holy shit!
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Oh my God!
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Oh my God!
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(students screaming)
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(tense music)
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- I was just waiting
for him to open the door
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because all you had to
do was reach your hand
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and I could see the door
from where I was crouched
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with the kids and
he could just easily
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have opened the door and
I was thinking to myself,
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what am I gonna do?
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What am I gonna do?
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I’m gonna say something.
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I was gonna stand up, I didn’t
know if I’d get the chance,
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but my first reaction
was I’m gonna stand up
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and I’m gonna say, we love you,
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because I thought how can you
shoot people that love you?
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- But I was still sitting there, I
didn’t understand.
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I was telling myself, okay, it’s
a senior prank.
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It’s Valentine’s Day ’cause I saw
red on the floor
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and I was telling myself,
oh, it’s a paintball gun.
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And then when I look up, I
saw Helena slumped over dead.
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And that’s when I went
into survival mode
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and as soon as I saw her,
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Nicholas Dworet fell
over to the ground
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and when he fell over, I
just followed his every move
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and I fell over with him,
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and then I put myself underneath
his body and I laid there.
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I was just praying and at
one point,
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I told God that if it was gonna
be anywhere,
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just make sure it’s
somewhere that I die quickly
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and I can’t feel it.
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And after laying there for about
what felt to be an eternity
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but it was more like 20 seconds,
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he moved on to the next class.
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Nicholas’ body got
heavy on me, the weight,
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so I rolled him off of me and
I placed his head on his arm,
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so his head wouldn’t
be on the cold floor
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and I just sat there,
I was in shock.
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But I was still in
complete view of the window
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and we all thought
he was coming back.
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- [Operator] Can you hear where
the shots are coming from?
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- [Caller] It was in the hallway.
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They were shooting into my classroom.
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- [Operator] They’re
shooting into your classroom?
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- [Caller] They were.
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- [Operator] Okay, do
you hear the shots now?
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- Someone was shot.
- We’re in class 1214.
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- [Operator] What is it?
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- [Caller] 1214.
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- [Operator] 1214?
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Is there any way that
the doors can lock?
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Is the teacher in there with you?
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- [Caller] Yes, the door is locked.
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My teacher’s on the phone
too, I think,
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but he shot our window in,
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so he could open the
door if he wanted to
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and come inside now.
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- We waited and we waited
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until the gunshots started getting
closer again.
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And closer and closer and then
you could see
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the bullets flying
through the walls,
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smoke everywhere, the smell
was just overwhelming.
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- He shot into my classroom
twice
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and in that the classroom the
students stepped up
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and they were heroes.
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The students communicated
and talked with each other
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to help each other.
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They told me that
they could hear
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the shooter out in the hallway.
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So that’s how we knew he was
still there in the hallway.
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So we did our best
to stay quiet.
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(dramatic music)
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- I remember standing there for
a moment, frozen.
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I remember they started
to scatter
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and run towards the windows of
the classroom,
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which is on the opposite
side of the classroom door.
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And when I saw them
shuffling around
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trying to get to that
direction of the classroom,
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I said, no, no, not there, go that
way, go that way!
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- I was dozing off when the shots started.
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I woke up with a start and
everyone,
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I saw everyone rushing to the wrong
side of the room.
248
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She quickly hurried the kids
to the correct side of the room
249
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closest to the wall where we
couldn’t be seen.
250
00:15:55,221 --> 00:15:58,658
- I actually called my mom in
that period of time
251
00:15:58,659 --> 00:16:00,626
before he had shot into our room
252
00:16:00,627 --> 00:16:02,862
but while he was shooting
in the hallway
253
00:16:02,863 --> 00:16:06,298
and I don’t really remember
the whole conversation
254
00:16:06,299 --> 00:16:09,769
because my body was in shock,
255
00:16:09,770 --> 00:16:13,205
but all I remember saying
is, shooter, shooter,
256
00:16:13,206 --> 00:16:16,141
and my mom was
telling me to breathe
257
00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:17,784
and trying to calm me down.
258
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:25,719
(alarm blaring)
259
00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:30,090
(gun banging)
260
00:16:51,678 --> 00:16:53,513
- I was right behind the
filing cabinet
261
00:16:53,514 --> 00:16:55,247
right next to the podium.
262
00:16:55,248 --> 00:16:57,983
Just stood there in silence staring
at each other
263
00:16:57,984 --> 00:17:01,220
for about a few seconds until
we saw the glass
264
00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:03,122
break through the doors.
265
00:17:03,123 --> 00:17:06,458
(tense music)
266
00:17:06,459 --> 00:17:10,564
- All of a sudden I felt the
bullet hit me,
267
00:17:15,001 --> 00:17:16,723
and all I could think of was,
268
00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:21,041
I’m not ready to die yet.
269
00:17:24,711 --> 00:17:25,712
Why me?
270
00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:28,782
I don’t know what happened, I’m.
271
00:17:30,016 --> 00:17:33,053
I was just so shocked
that I got shot.
272
00:17:37,591 --> 00:17:40,159
- No one really made
any initial scream
273
00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,628
or gasp for help right
when it happened,
274
00:17:42,629 --> 00:17:44,964
so no one really knew
that anyone got shot
275
00:17:44,965 --> 00:17:46,832
until a few seconds followed
276
00:17:46,833 --> 00:17:48,734
and we heard Maddy start to moan
277
00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:51,136
and this kid Ben in our class
278
00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:53,873
who got shot in the
arm and the stomach,
279
00:17:53,874 --> 00:17:57,209
he started asking for water,
for somebody to help him,
280
00:17:57,210 --> 00:18:02,148
and Carmen, I looked over
and she was face down.
281
00:18:03,316 --> 00:18:04,850
And I looked over
to my friend Moses,
282
00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:07,219
who was directly behind her
and he just shook his head,
283
00:18:07,220 --> 00:18:09,154
like she’s not there anymore.
284
00:18:09,155 --> 00:18:12,625
- I was standing on the other
side of my desk
285
00:18:12,626 --> 00:18:16,261
to assess the situation and I saw
one of my students
286
00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:18,564
was laying there lifeless, she
was unresponsive.
287
00:18:18,565 --> 00:18:20,400
That was Carmen.
288
00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:22,467
I went up closer to see,
289
00:18:22,468 --> 00:18:25,070
but there was no
movement, no nothing.
290
00:18:25,071 --> 00:18:26,872
She was just laying there
in a pool of her blood,
291
00:18:26,873 --> 00:18:29,875
her hair was covering her face.
292
00:18:29,876 --> 00:18:31,343
- Unfortunately in that moment,
293
00:18:31,344 --> 00:18:35,447
you kind of knew that
she, she wasn’t breathing
294
00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,518
and that she wasn’t
gonna make it out
295
00:18:38,719 --> 00:18:41,320
just because of how
lifeless she looked.
296
00:18:41,321 --> 00:18:43,723
You just want to be
able to have that hope
297
00:18:43,724 --> 00:18:44,725
and have that.
298
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,194
You just wanna be able
to do something for her,
299
00:18:49,195 --> 00:18:50,796
but at that moment, you just,
300
00:18:50,797 --> 00:18:53,265
there was nothing
you could really do.
301
00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:55,701
I remembered turning around
302
00:18:55,702 --> 00:19:00,273
and looking to my right
and I see my classmates,
303
00:19:01,842 --> 00:19:06,847
Ben and Carmen, and all
I can see is blood and,
304
00:19:08,248 --> 00:19:11,884
so I turn back around
’cause obviously no one’s,
305
00:19:11,885 --> 00:19:15,655
no one can help me
from where I am,
306
00:19:15,656 --> 00:19:18,023
and then I remember
hearing the fire alarm
307
00:19:18,024 --> 00:19:19,425
and just kinda blacking out.
308
00:19:23,429 --> 00:19:24,697
- Okay.
309
00:19:24,698 --> 00:19:25,998
- [Charlie] Did you see Maddy get shot?
310
00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:27,900
- I didn’t see ’cause my head
was ducked down
311
00:19:27,901 --> 00:19:31,303
but I knew someone got shot next to
me and it was Maddy.
312
00:19:31,304 --> 00:19:33,372
- [Charlie] About how
far was she from you?
313
00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:36,241
- Like less than two feet.
314
00:19:36,242 --> 00:19:39,111
- I definitely heard, when
the bullets shot Maddy,
315
00:19:39,112 --> 00:19:41,380
I heard her slump
against the podium,
316
00:19:41,381 --> 00:19:43,949
and to have her be like
one foot away from me
317
00:19:43,950 --> 00:19:48,053
and just have a small gap between
possibly me and the bullet
318
00:19:48,054 --> 00:19:49,522
and Maddy and the bullet
319
00:19:49,523 --> 00:19:52,692
is just insane and I still carry
a guilt with me to this day
320
00:19:52,693 --> 00:19:55,460
’cause I feel like in a way
she kinda took a bullet for me.
321
00:19:55,461 --> 00:19:57,029
- [Charlie] How far
was Carmen from you?
322
00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:58,698
- I wanna say, like,
two to three feet.
323
00:19:58,699 --> 00:20:01,433
- [Charlie] Oh, and Ben and
Sam were right there too?
324
00:20:01,434 --> 00:20:04,136
- Yeah, they were, I
wanna say five feet away.
325
00:20:04,137 --> 00:20:05,506
It was just like in a line.
326
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,607
- [Charlie] So, do
you feel really lucky
327
00:20:07,608 --> 00:20:09,208
that you weren’t shot?
328
00:20:09,209 --> 00:20:10,475
- I feel extremely lucky,
329
00:20:10,476 --> 00:20:12,846
but it’s also survivor’s
guilt at the same time.
330
00:20:54,555 --> 00:20:56,857
(gun bangs)
331
00:20:58,191 --> 00:20:59,458
- So you’re trying to
figure out,
332
00:20:59,459 --> 00:21:01,862
like what could this noise possibly be?
333
00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:05,966
(gun bangs)
334
00:21:24,751 --> 00:21:26,285
Nobody was killed
on the second floor
335
00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:28,353
’cause there was simply, there
weren’t any targets.
336
00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:32,391
We had enough warning to clear
out the hallway
337
00:21:32,392 --> 00:21:35,327
and hide before he was on the second floor.
338
00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:37,330
And so, there was
nobody in the hallway,
339
00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:40,132
we were very quiet,
340
00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:42,267
and even when he shot
into a couple classrooms,
341
00:21:42,268 --> 00:21:44,203
there was no reaction,
there was no noise,
342
00:21:44,204 --> 00:21:47,740
and it just so happened that
the two classrooms he shot in
343
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:50,776
did not have students
or a teacher in it.
344
00:21:50,777 --> 00:21:53,979
And I also heard from
a teacher that he said
345
00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:56,682
something along the lines
like, no one’s here.
346
00:21:56,683 --> 00:21:59,418
So I think he, out loud.
347
00:21:59,419 --> 00:22:00,653
- [Charlie] Just to himself?
348
00:22:00,654 --> 00:22:02,487
- Yes, she said she
clearly heard him
349
00:22:02,488 --> 00:22:04,489
make a comment
like, nobody’s here
350
00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:06,191
or something along those lines.
351
00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:08,528
I believe he just concluded
352
00:22:08,529 --> 00:22:10,964
that there was
nobody on that floor.
353
00:22:13,567 --> 00:22:16,135
You know, on the second
floor, it was very clear
354
00:22:16,136 --> 00:22:19,839
that there was a loud sound
that sounded very scary.
355
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,610
Now on the third floor, they didn’t
have the same volume.
356
00:22:24,611 --> 00:22:27,246
- It sounded rapid and it sounded
like someone
357
00:22:27,247 --> 00:22:29,915
was kinda like sliding a table
across the floor.
358
00:22:29,916 --> 00:22:31,250
- When we first heard it
going off,
359
00:22:31,251 --> 00:22:32,918
we were just like, oh, it’s computer carts.
360
00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:35,755
Computer cart is like a giant
metal cart
361
00:22:35,756 --> 00:22:37,489
that all the
computers would be in.
362
00:22:37,490 --> 00:22:38,891
They would go up
and down floors,
363
00:22:38,892 --> 00:22:42,461
so you would hear, like,
sometimes like du-du-du-du-duh.
364
00:22:42,462 --> 00:22:44,697
So, we heard that and all
of us just looked and went,
365
00:22:44,698 --> 00:22:45,631
oh, it’s a computer cart.
366
00:22:45,632 --> 00:22:48,133
That was the only explanation.
367
00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:49,001
- [Student] Bro, what the?
368
00:22:49,002 --> 00:22:50,435
I know you, (laughs).
369
00:22:50,436 --> 00:22:51,904
I know you guys hear that.
370
00:22:51,905 --> 00:22:53,138
(students chattering)
371
00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:55,307
It sound like somebody in the bathroom.
372
00:22:55,308 --> 00:22:56,842
- Very muffled, whatever noise,
373
00:22:56,843 --> 00:22:58,744
if anybody heard a noise, it
was quite muffled
374
00:22:58,745 --> 00:23:00,445
and it didn’t sound dangerous.
375
00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,782
And then we just sort of moved on.
376
00:23:02,783 --> 00:23:05,225
- We were practicing some math problems.
377
00:23:06,186 --> 00:23:08,988
A young lady needed to go use
the restroom,
378
00:23:08,989 --> 00:23:10,422
I let her out on a pass.
379
00:23:10,423 --> 00:23:11,657
I mentioned to her
380
00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:13,158
that the third floor
restrooms are locked,
381
00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:15,094
first floor
restrooms are locked,
382
00:23:15,095 --> 00:23:17,196
so she has to go down
to the second floor
383
00:23:17,197 --> 00:23:19,064
in order to use the restroom.
384
00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:22,167
I give her the pass, she leaves.
385
00:23:22,168 --> 00:23:25,505
As she leaves, maybe a
little bit afterwards,
386
00:23:25,506 --> 00:23:27,139
but I’m still at the door,
387
00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:30,142
I hear three loud,
I’ll call them pops,
388
00:23:30,143 --> 00:23:33,012
three loud pops, but I’ve
been in a simulation before,
389
00:23:33,013 --> 00:23:35,447
I know what that
gunfire sounds like,
390
00:23:35,448 --> 00:23:38,350
and so I had honestly thought
391
00:23:38,351 --> 00:23:40,653
that it was a beginning of a drill.
392
00:23:40,654 --> 00:23:42,154
- I was gonna go down to
the bathroom,
393
00:23:42,155 --> 00:23:45,457
I was on the third floor and I’m
going down the stairs,
394
00:23:45,458 --> 00:23:47,860
I didn’t know that they were
shots that I was hearing.
395
00:23:47,861 --> 00:23:50,363
(gun banging)
396
00:23:53,499 --> 00:23:55,334
I look over the railing,
nothing was there,
397
00:23:55,335 --> 00:23:57,369
but I knew that I had to go
398
00:23:57,370 --> 00:23:59,338
’cause I knew that that
wasn’t safe in there.
399
00:23:59,339 --> 00:24:01,140
So I went back up the stairs,
400
00:24:01,141 --> 00:24:02,575
I was just like,
what’s going on?
401
00:24:02,576 --> 00:24:05,044
There’s a loud noise, I
don’t know where I should be,
402
00:24:05,045 --> 00:24:06,779
and so I’m knocking on the door,
403
00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:09,114
nobody’s answering and I’m
like, guys, it’s me, it’s Lea.
404
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:10,382
Can you guys open the door?
405
00:24:10,383 --> 00:24:12,284
That loud noise wasn’t
me and they opened it.
406
00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:15,354
- [Charlie] So, you
missed death by probably...
407
00:24:15,355 --> 00:24:16,956
- A minute, maybe.
408
00:24:16,957 --> 00:24:18,792
It’s just seconds at that point.
409
00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:21,627
- Lea came back to the door,
410
00:24:21,628 --> 00:24:23,896
she knocked on the door
and I kinda made a joke,
411
00:24:23,897 --> 00:24:26,231
I said if I get an F in conduct
412
00:24:26,232 --> 00:24:28,233
because I let a kid
in during a drill,
413
00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:30,469
right, I said, I’m
gonna be unhappy,
414
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:31,904
but I’m not leaving
you in the hall
415
00:24:31,905 --> 00:24:33,507
and then that’s when I heard
416
00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:37,543
what would have been
glass shattering
417
00:24:37,544 --> 00:24:39,011
and bullets hitting
a metal door.
418
00:24:39,012 --> 00:24:41,647
It didn’t sound, it sounded
like silverware falling
419
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:43,083
or glass breaking.
420
00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:49,221
- I was at my desk grading papers and
fire alarm goes off.
421
00:24:49,222 --> 00:24:51,223
All right, fire alarm goes off,
422
00:24:51,224 --> 00:24:54,359
we’ve been told, you hear
the fire alarm, you evacuate.
423
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,929
So, everyone starts
leaving the room.
424
00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:58,163
- It was weird because it
was the second
425
00:24:58,164 --> 00:24:59,865
fire alarm of the day.
426
00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:02,468
At the end of the day right before
the bell let out.
427
00:25:03,403 --> 00:25:06,172
(alarm blaring)
428
00:25:10,511 --> 00:25:14,379
- And the fire alarm goes off, we are
trained to just exit.
429
00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:16,215
It’s like a rote response.
430
00:25:16,216 --> 00:25:18,584
So, I grab my emergency
folder and my phone,
431
00:25:18,585 --> 00:25:21,921
like I always do, told everyone
where we would meet outside,
432
00:25:21,922 --> 00:25:25,224
and everyone started
filing out of the class.
433
00:25:25,225 --> 00:25:27,326
The hallway was filled with kids.
434
00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:30,062
- The hallway, when we went out,
it was super crowded,
435
00:25:30,063 --> 00:25:31,697
you were like this with people
436
00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:33,132
because every class was out there.
437
00:25:33,133 --> 00:25:34,499
- When I get to the stairwell
438
00:25:34,501 --> 00:25:36,268
is when I first
start hearing shots.
439
00:25:36,269 --> 00:25:37,436
We had a meeting earlier,
440
00:25:37,437 --> 00:25:39,672
a staff meeting
earlier that morning,
441
00:25:39,673 --> 00:25:42,407
we’d been warned that we were gonna
have a Code Red drill.
442
00:25:42,408 --> 00:25:45,010
I thought, this is a weird time
for a Code Red drill
443
00:25:45,011 --> 00:25:47,312
’cause it’s at the tail end
of the day
444
00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,314
but I was like okay, so I had
just assumed
445
00:25:49,315 --> 00:25:51,216
that they were using blanks.
446
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:54,687
So, all the kids started coming
up en masse, and I decided,
447
00:25:54,688 --> 00:25:56,055
you know, I was gonna stay
at the end of the hallway
448
00:25:56,056 --> 00:25:58,758
and try and herd them
back to their room.
449
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:02,061
- And I remember
going one floor down
450
00:26:02,062 --> 00:26:04,296
and leaning over the
edge of the railing
451
00:26:04,297 --> 00:26:07,767
and I saw a long black
case, either a guitar case
452
00:26:07,768 --> 00:26:10,903
or what I thought was
a gun case at the time,
453
00:26:10,904 --> 00:26:13,740
and that’s when I kinda
knew what was going on.
454
00:26:15,175 --> 00:26:17,777
- We walked down the hallway
towards the staircase
455
00:26:17,778 --> 00:26:19,945
when the entire hallway stopped,
456
00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:22,882
and it just went silent
for a second
457
00:26:22,883 --> 00:26:24,884
and then everyone just started
screaming
458
00:26:24,885 --> 00:26:26,452
and running back up the stairs.
459
00:26:27,621 --> 00:26:29,288
- I got everybody
out of my class
460
00:26:29,289 --> 00:26:30,756
and I had just shut
the door behind me
461
00:26:30,757 --> 00:26:33,626
and it was locked, it’s
always in a locked position.
462
00:26:33,627 --> 00:26:35,427
I just shut it behind me,
463
00:26:35,428 --> 00:26:37,930
and I walked about
two feet from my door,
464
00:26:37,931 --> 00:26:40,232
and then all of a
sudden I heard screaming
465
00:26:40,233 --> 00:26:43,236
and kids coming back towards me.
466
00:26:44,505 --> 00:26:46,606
And that’s where I feel
like time stood still,
467
00:26:46,607 --> 00:26:49,249
but then it went by so fast at
the same time.
468
00:26:50,043 --> 00:26:51,511
- And then everybody started
to, you know,
469
00:26:51,512 --> 00:26:54,279
run and scram, everybody went in
separate directions.
470
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,416
Me and my friend Joaquin Oliver
went downstairs.
471
00:26:57,417 --> 00:26:59,685
Before I walked into the
second floor,
472
00:26:59,686 --> 00:27:01,921
I heard gunshots but really,
really close to me,
473
00:27:01,922 --> 00:27:04,724
so my first instinct
was to walk back up
474
00:27:04,725 --> 00:27:07,192
to the third floor wherever
I could find safety.
475
00:27:07,193 --> 00:27:08,961
When I walked into
the third floor,
476
00:27:08,962 --> 00:27:11,330
from the corner of my eye,
I could still see downstairs
477
00:27:11,331 --> 00:27:12,464
and that’s when
I saw the shooter
478
00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,166
walk into the second floor.
479
00:27:14,167 --> 00:27:15,467
- [Charlie] So, you
saw the shooter?
480
00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:16,602
What did he look like?
481
00:27:16,603 --> 00:27:18,738
- I know he was
wearing Douglas attire.
482
00:27:18,739 --> 00:27:23,075
Which is a JROTC shirt with
khaki pants to blend in
483
00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:25,611
and something black on his face.
484
00:27:25,612 --> 00:27:27,913
- [Charlie] And why do you
think he was dressed like that?
485
00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:29,348
- To blend in.
486
00:27:29,349 --> 00:27:30,883
If it was a Wednesday, that’s
the day where everybody
487
00:27:30,884 --> 00:27:32,752
dresses in JROTC attire.
488
00:27:32,753 --> 00:27:35,487
(tense music)
489
00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:37,089
- So we all ran back upstairs,
490
00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:41,594
people flooded into classrooms,
just crowding, pushing.
491
00:27:41,595 --> 00:27:43,696
- Kids are running and screaming
towards me
492
00:27:43,697 --> 00:27:45,030
and I was still confused.
493
00:27:45,031 --> 00:27:46,532
Why are they screaming?
494
00:27:46,533 --> 00:27:49,602
Then I heard the gunshots
very clear in the stairwell.
495
00:27:49,603 --> 00:27:51,638
It was very loud
and it was echoing.
496
00:27:52,806 --> 00:27:55,240
And then I just
turned on my heel,
497
00:27:55,241 --> 00:27:58,477
just walked the two paces to
my door and unlocked my door.
498
00:27:58,478 --> 00:28:00,479
I can’t tell you how many
times I fumbled with that key
499
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,415
just on a regular day and
the fact that I got that key,
500
00:28:03,416 --> 00:28:07,052
that key that’s on a chain
of maybe six or seven keys,
501
00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:09,021
and I got it directly
into that lock.
502
00:28:09,022 --> 00:28:10,590
Kids started
pouring into my room
503
00:28:10,591 --> 00:28:12,257
and I’m just ushering them in.
504
00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:15,728
- I heard just a teacher from across
the hall screaming,
505
00:28:15,729 --> 00:28:19,164
everybody, slow down, slow down!
506
00:28:19,165 --> 00:28:22,835
And just screaming and
so I went to the door,
507
00:28:22,836 --> 00:28:24,837
I had a student beg me
don’t open the door,
508
00:28:24,838 --> 00:28:27,306
don’t open the door,
but I went to the door,
509
00:28:27,307 --> 00:28:29,975
and I just started
pulling kids in.
510
00:28:29,976 --> 00:28:32,778
And for every one kid
that I would pull in,
511
00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:34,580
they would pull in friends.
512
00:28:34,581 --> 00:28:37,783
- We went out into the hallway,
513
00:28:37,784 --> 00:28:39,251
and I started going down
the stairs
514
00:28:39,252 --> 00:28:44,224
until everybody started shoving
me back towards Mr. Beigel,
515
00:28:45,158 --> 00:28:46,592
and I got pushed
all the way back
516
00:28:46,593 --> 00:28:50,095
to my classroom and I
stood there with Mr. Beigel
517
00:28:50,096 --> 00:28:53,633
and told him, I’m scared, I
don’t know what’s going on.
518
00:28:53,634 --> 00:28:55,701
Then I saw students
walk past me say,
519
00:28:55,702 --> 00:28:58,070
this can’t be happening,
I don’t wanna die,
520
00:28:58,071 --> 00:28:59,305
this can’t be happening.
521
00:29:00,841 --> 00:29:02,041
- And all of a sudden,
522
00:29:02,042 --> 00:29:04,510
I see the shooter emerge
from the stairwell.
523
00:29:04,511 --> 00:29:06,478
And I just remember
looking at him
524
00:29:06,479 --> 00:29:11,316
and just looking at this figure
that is just so menacing.
525
00:29:11,317 --> 00:29:13,153
His face was covered.
526
00:29:14,555 --> 00:29:18,257
I describe him as
wearing a gas mask
527
00:29:18,258 --> 00:29:21,326
because that’s what it looked
like to me at the time,
528
00:29:21,327 --> 00:29:23,529
but his face was
definitely covered,
529
00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:25,064
his head was definitely covered.
530
00:29:25,065 --> 00:29:26,632
I didn’t see any skin.
531
00:29:26,633 --> 00:29:28,668
He was black from head to toe.
532
00:29:28,669 --> 00:29:31,170
Black vest, black pants.
533
00:29:31,171 --> 00:29:33,338
I remember screaming
to Scott Beigel
534
00:29:33,339 --> 00:29:34,874
who was right next door to me
535
00:29:34,875 --> 00:29:36,676
doing the same exact thing I
was doing at the same time,
536
00:29:36,677 --> 00:29:39,512
and I remember yelling
at him to shut his door
537
00:29:39,513 --> 00:29:40,780
because he didn’t have
538
00:29:40,781 --> 00:29:41,847
a good visual of the
shooter like I did.
539
00:29:41,848 --> 00:29:43,650
And I closed my door.
540
00:29:44,818 --> 00:29:46,285
I just knew I gotta
get this door shut
541
00:29:46,286 --> 00:29:47,520
and when I did that,
542
00:29:47,521 --> 00:29:49,789
that’s when I felt a
little ping on my arm
543
00:29:49,790 --> 00:29:51,390
and I didn’t really know
what it was at the time.
544
00:29:51,391 --> 00:29:53,993
I had a jacket on and so I
just felt a little, like,
545
00:29:53,994 --> 00:29:56,428
something you know hit my arm
546
00:29:56,429 --> 00:29:59,398
and I got my door shut
and I just held it.
547
00:29:59,399 --> 00:30:01,233
- I stood there for a couple
of seconds
548
00:30:01,234 --> 00:30:02,735
looking at all the other
students
549
00:30:02,736 --> 00:30:06,305
run into the classrooms and then
I turned around,
550
00:30:06,306 --> 00:30:09,408
Beigel’s door was open again, and I ran in.
551
00:30:09,409 --> 00:30:13,779
Mr. Beigel held the door
open for students to run in.
552
00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:16,516
He didn’t make it out,
553
00:30:16,517 --> 00:30:19,419
but I was the last person
to run inside the classroom.
554
00:30:20,587 --> 00:30:22,555
So if it wasn’t for him
having the door open,
555
00:30:22,556 --> 00:30:25,090
I probably wouldn’t be here right now.
556
00:30:25,091 --> 00:30:27,594
(tense music)
557
00:30:32,298 --> 00:30:34,834
- As I get about even with
my door,
558
00:30:34,835 --> 00:30:37,437
which is the second door down
in the hallway,
559
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,841
there’s a guy at the end
of the hallway shooting.
560
00:30:41,842 --> 00:30:44,878
What I thought I saw was
a kid with tactical vest,
561
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:47,580
pants with lots of pockets,
562
00:30:47,581 --> 00:30:51,251
and I thought I saw
a gas mask and a hat.
563
00:30:52,686 --> 00:30:54,520
Apparently, the gas mask,
I’ve been told, was mistaken,
564
00:30:54,521 --> 00:30:56,488
he had just shooting glasses on.
565
00:30:56,489 --> 00:30:59,024
But one of the things I
want you to understand
566
00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:02,361
is I’m not surprised
I was off on that
567
00:31:02,362 --> 00:31:05,965
because he was far, 20
feet away, 25 feet away
568
00:31:05,966 --> 00:31:08,033
when he was the closest to me
569
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:10,836
and it was smoky in the hallway.
570
00:31:10,837 --> 00:31:12,404
When I say it was smoky,
571
00:31:12,405 --> 00:31:15,841
I want you to think
concert stage smoky.
572
00:31:15,842 --> 00:31:17,743
So again, I still
think it’s a drill.
573
00:31:17,744 --> 00:31:19,612
I start walking towards my door,
574
00:31:19,613 --> 00:31:22,348
and that’s when Joaquin got hit.
575
00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:26,619
And he went down and I said
that in my head,
576
00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:28,320
I knew that he was one of my
former students,
577
00:31:28,321 --> 00:31:31,024
I know him pretty well,
the kid’s not an actor.
578
00:31:36,663 --> 00:31:39,464
I saw the shooter train on
me and that’s when I pushed
579
00:31:39,465 --> 00:31:40,700
and reached my arms out wide
580
00:31:40,701 --> 00:31:42,367
and pushed as many
kids as I could
581
00:31:42,368 --> 00:31:44,704
in the little alcove
outside my door.
582
00:31:44,705 --> 00:31:47,072
When in the process of
pushing them in the alcove,
583
00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:48,541
I got grazed twice.
584
00:31:48,542 --> 00:31:51,712
I got a bullet graze right
under my eye and one on my hip.
585
00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:57,283
- I ran across the hall to Ms.
Mickow’s room
586
00:31:58,384 --> 00:31:59,919
and I was just standing next
to the door
587
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,087
letting people in and I
ran inside,
588
00:32:02,088 --> 00:32:05,491
and I, like, laid down and started
calling 911.
589
00:32:15,035 --> 00:32:16,502
- The kids were crying,
590
00:32:16,503 --> 00:32:19,238
the girls had mascara running
down their faces.
591
00:32:19,239 --> 00:32:22,174
I just kind of pictured like this
bubble around us,
592
00:32:22,175 --> 00:32:25,511
I kept visioning this
bubble just around,
593
00:32:25,512 --> 00:32:28,113
going around and
around to keep us safe.
594
00:32:28,114 --> 00:32:30,583
They told me that they
thanked me for being calm,
595
00:32:30,584 --> 00:32:32,051
but I really wasn’t.
596
00:32:32,052 --> 00:32:34,419
They don’t know that, but
they said I looked very calm,
597
00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:37,022
but inside, I was just a wreck.
598
00:32:37,023 --> 00:32:39,058
I was texting my
husband and my daughter
599
00:32:39,059 --> 00:32:43,028
and saying please call 911,
he’s here on the third floor.
600
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:45,998
Tell them he’s right outside
of 1253, my classroom,
601
00:32:45,999 --> 00:32:47,466
tell them to come!
602
00:32:47,467 --> 00:32:50,435
- The bullets were
just, it was so loud.
603
00:32:50,436 --> 00:32:53,438
So much shooting next
door into Scott’s room
604
00:32:53,439 --> 00:32:56,409
and then straight into my classroom
through the glass panel.
605
00:32:58,745 --> 00:33:00,813
- [Charlie] Did you think
you were gonna die that day?
606
00:33:00,814 --> 00:33:02,081
- Yeah.
607
00:33:02,082 --> 00:33:05,017
To the point where I was
actually crouching down,
608
00:33:05,018 --> 00:33:07,887
and after a while, I
kinda gave up hope,
609
00:33:07,888 --> 00:33:11,223
and I thought in my head
maybe if I fell asleep,
610
00:33:11,224 --> 00:33:12,926
it wouldn’t be painful.
611
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:25,712
- This is a tough question.
612
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,908
In your interview with the
Associated Press,
613
00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:32,411
you talked about you had locked
yourself out of your room?
614
00:33:32,412 --> 00:33:33,879
- Mm-hmm.
615
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,114
- [Charlie] The fact that you
616
00:33:35,115 --> 00:33:36,749
locked yourself
out of your room,
617
00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:40,285
how did that affect
things moving forward?
618
00:33:40,286 --> 00:33:44,624
- Honestly, I made a mistake,
619
00:33:44,625 --> 00:33:47,860
and it’s something that
I’ve been dealing with,
620
00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:52,866
but I’ve been avoiding the
could’ves and should’ves
621
00:33:53,734 --> 00:33:55,334
and what could have happened,
622
00:33:55,335 --> 00:33:57,402
I’ve been dealing with what did happen.
623
00:33:57,403 --> 00:33:59,505
- It was just locked and he
was searching
624
00:33:59,506 --> 00:34:00,740
and he didn’t have ’em on him.
625
00:34:00,741 --> 00:34:02,875
Usually they’re around his neck,
626
00:34:02,876 --> 00:34:06,146
but it wasn’t there and we just
couldn’t get it open.
627
00:34:07,781 --> 00:34:09,448
- The shooting stopped.
628
00:34:09,449 --> 00:34:12,151
So I stuck my head
out, saw where he was,
629
00:34:12,152 --> 00:34:14,787
he was about 25, 30 feet away,
630
00:34:14,788 --> 00:34:17,389
but the gun was up and
he was fiddling with it.
631
00:34:17,390 --> 00:34:18,858
I don’t know if
he was reloading,
632
00:34:18,859 --> 00:34:22,227
I later found out, I think,
it jammed or something.
633
00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:24,396
I looked at the kids who
were with me, I said, run.
634
00:34:24,397 --> 00:34:26,900
(tense music)
635
00:34:34,140 --> 00:34:35,908
- He started going on
a rampage on everyone.
636
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:39,912
Just started pow, pow, just
rounds was going by.
637
00:34:39,913 --> 00:34:41,814
Just shots going off everywhere.
638
00:34:41,815 --> 00:34:45,417
I just dove out of the way and
then as I was diving,
639
00:34:45,418 --> 00:34:48,053
one hit me out of
several of them.
640
00:34:48,054 --> 00:34:49,555
Obviously, if he
had more rounds in,
641
00:34:49,556 --> 00:34:51,490
I probably would’ve died.
642
00:34:51,491 --> 00:34:56,395
So, I just, I don’t know
how I got out but I did.
643
00:34:56,396 --> 00:34:58,932
Ran down the stairs, three
flights and I was out.
644
00:35:02,669 --> 00:35:03,903
- [Charlie] How were
you able to do that
645
00:35:03,904 --> 00:35:08,207
when he shot your
foot off almost?
646
00:35:08,208 --> 00:35:10,143
- Adrenaline and high hopes.
647
00:35:26,893 --> 00:35:28,661
- He had been shot on the
third floor
648
00:35:28,662 --> 00:35:30,129
and was running down the stairs
649
00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:31,897
and ran out into the parking lot
when I saw him.
650
00:35:31,898 --> 00:35:34,433
He was obviously upset and
screaming and crying
651
00:35:34,434 --> 00:35:36,536
and saying he had been shot.
652
00:35:36,537 --> 00:35:39,939
I came across him, he had a
massive gunshot wound to his,
653
00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:42,141
I believe it’s his right leg.
654
00:35:42,142 --> 00:35:44,209
So I grabbed him,
told him he’d be okay,
655
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:47,680
we proceeded then back out
towards the baseball field.
656
00:35:47,681 --> 00:35:50,082
Which was out and around
the football field
657
00:35:50,083 --> 00:35:52,051
to a clubhouse
area where we were.
658
00:35:52,052 --> 00:35:54,820
- And then we ran across
the football field
659
00:35:54,821 --> 00:35:57,022
to the baseball locker
room and we went in there
660
00:35:57,023 --> 00:35:58,124
and I got bandaged up.
661
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,727
- [Charlie] What exactly
did you tell the officer?
662
00:36:01,728 --> 00:36:04,329
- He asked me, do
you know where he is?
663
00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:05,497
What he’s using?
664
00:36:05,498 --> 00:36:07,366
I’m like, yeah, he’s,
what is wearing?
665
00:36:07,367 --> 00:36:09,068
I’m like, he’s
wearing black jacket,
666
00:36:09,069 --> 00:36:12,304
a tactical vest on and then
he’s on the third floor.
667
00:36:12,305 --> 00:36:15,007
And they’re like all right, that’s
good, thank you.
668
00:36:15,008 --> 00:36:16,175
- We spoke with doctors
afterwards
669
00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:18,177
and the doctors don’t know
how he ran
670
00:36:18,178 --> 00:36:21,781
because basically when they, the
rounds severed,
671
00:36:21,782 --> 00:36:24,584
severed the tendon or ligament,
672
00:36:24,585 --> 00:36:27,820
whatever it was that allows
the foot to go up and down,
673
00:36:27,821 --> 00:36:29,321
for all intents and purposes,
674
00:36:29,322 --> 00:36:31,657
he shouldn’t have been able
to lift his foot up and down.
675
00:36:31,658 --> 00:36:33,225
But obviously on pure adrenaline
676
00:36:33,226 --> 00:36:38,030
and fight to survive
and wanting to survive,
677
00:36:38,031 --> 00:36:40,432
he went down all three
flights of stairs
678
00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:42,355
and ran out into
the parking lot.
679
00:37:07,928 --> 00:37:10,462
- Had that bathroom
door been unlocked,
680
00:37:10,463 --> 00:37:12,385
Joaquin could’ve
gotten in there.
681
00:37:13,299 --> 00:37:14,600
And when the shooter
came down the hallway,
682
00:37:14,601 --> 00:37:17,903
he fatally wounded Joaquin.
683
00:37:17,904 --> 00:37:20,606
- [Charlie] Wasn’t there a
time when you asked Joaquin,
684
00:37:20,607 --> 00:37:22,307
hey, we gotta go, we gotta go?
685
00:37:22,308 --> 00:37:24,009
- Yeah, he was covered in blood
686
00:37:24,010 --> 00:37:28,748
and I even looked at myself and
I’m like, am I ready to run?
687
00:37:28,749 --> 00:37:30,816
And I said, let’s do it.
688
00:37:30,817 --> 00:37:33,519
Joaquin said, I can’t
really remember,
689
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,690
but all I remember
is no, he didn’t go.
690
00:37:38,258 --> 00:37:40,693
- [Charlie] Because he couldn’t
put any weight on the knee?
691
00:37:40,694 --> 00:37:42,194
- That’s what I’m
thinking, yeah.
692
00:37:42,195 --> 00:37:43,696
- [Charlie] The fact that
the first floor bathroom
693
00:37:43,697 --> 00:37:45,264
and the third floor
bathrooms were locked,
694
00:37:45,265 --> 00:37:46,498
why are they locked?
695
00:37:46,499 --> 00:37:49,034
- That was a decision
by the security to,
696
00:37:49,035 --> 00:37:51,003
we’ve had issue before that
697
00:37:51,004 --> 00:37:52,404
with kids smoking
in the bathrooms,
698
00:37:52,405 --> 00:37:54,540
so they were trying to
make it so that the kids
699
00:37:54,541 --> 00:37:57,409
had to go to one
bathroom to limit that.
700
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:59,144
- Kids would come
from all over campus
701
00:37:59,145 --> 00:38:01,747
to go to those bathrooms,
they were air conditioned.
702
00:38:01,748 --> 00:38:03,282
They were nice bathrooms
703
00:38:03,283 --> 00:38:04,850
and there were
drug deals going on
704
00:38:04,851 --> 00:38:08,288
and they felt that this
was a way to control it.
705
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,637
(student panting)
706
00:39:41,882 --> 00:39:44,116
- One of my classmates had got
a phone call
707
00:39:44,117 --> 00:39:46,185
from her sister and she
was saying,
708
00:39:46,186 --> 00:39:48,087
it’s real, it’s real,
this isn’t fake.
709
00:39:48,088 --> 00:39:50,422
This is, like, some
people are getting hurt,
710
00:39:50,423 --> 00:39:52,958
and I was like, she
must be misinformed,
711
00:39:52,959 --> 00:39:54,660
she must be scared or something.
712
00:39:54,661 --> 00:39:56,261
Another classmate
looked on the news
713
00:39:56,262 --> 00:40:00,065
and it was real and I was,
I didn’t know how to react.
714
00:40:00,066 --> 00:40:01,601
I was like, what?
715
00:40:01,602 --> 00:40:03,368
This can’t be real,
it’s Parkland.
716
00:40:03,369 --> 00:40:05,571
You know, this doesn’t happen.
717
00:40:05,572 --> 00:40:07,072
- [Charlie] Were people talking?
718
00:40:07,073 --> 00:40:08,508
- A couple of us were.
719
00:40:08,509 --> 00:40:10,275
We were just trying to figure out
what was happening.
720
00:40:10,276 --> 00:40:12,512
You know, was he
gonna come back?
721
00:40:12,513 --> 00:40:14,180
What’s happening to us?
722
00:40:15,549 --> 00:40:17,216
And then we were also
thinking stupid things too,
723
00:40:17,217 --> 00:40:19,084
like, oh is the bell
gonna ring at 2:40?
724
00:40:19,085 --> 00:40:21,588
And are we all gonna
get to leave, you know?
725
00:40:22,756 --> 00:40:23,789
- [Charlie] And there
was no bell at 2:40.
726
00:40:23,790 --> 00:40:25,191
- There was no bell at 2:40.
727
00:40:26,326 --> 00:40:28,160
- We were all, you know, sitting
down quietly
728
00:40:28,161 --> 00:40:29,529
and that’s when we started
to hear
729
00:40:29,530 --> 00:40:31,330
this kid start screaming help,
730
00:40:31,331 --> 00:40:33,332
but we didn’t know whether or not
he was doing that,
731
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:35,167
you know, to get more
kids out the class
732
00:40:35,168 --> 00:40:38,237
or that was actually
a kid asking for help.
733
00:40:38,238 --> 00:40:41,373
- [Charlie] What was Anthony Borges
exactly yelling out?
734
00:40:41,374 --> 00:40:43,943
- He was screaming help me, help
me, please help me.
735
00:40:43,944 --> 00:40:44,777
- [Charlie] Was he really?
736
00:40:44,778 --> 00:40:46,059
- He was.
737
00:40:46,947 --> 00:40:47,913
- [Charlie] Does that haunt you?
738
00:40:47,914 --> 00:40:49,715
Do you hear those, that voice?
739
00:40:49,716 --> 00:40:50,550
Do you?
740
00:40:50,551 --> 00:40:51,751
- Yeah.
741
00:40:51,752 --> 00:40:53,318
Like the first few
nights I just remember,
742
00:40:53,319 --> 00:40:56,288
like, thinking like oh my
God, I couldn’t help him.
743
00:40:56,289 --> 00:40:58,023
Which is horrible since
the door was right there
744
00:40:58,024 --> 00:40:59,525
and we could’ve easily gone out,
745
00:40:59,526 --> 00:41:02,368
it’s just horrible to think
that you couldn’t help someone.
746
00:41:03,930 --> 00:41:05,866
- [Anthony] Help, help!
747
00:41:10,571 --> 00:41:12,405
Help, please, help me!
748
00:41:13,574 --> 00:41:14,507
Please!
749
00:41:14,508 --> 00:41:16,475
(somber music)
750
00:41:16,476 --> 00:41:19,945
- We heard someone calling for help.
751
00:41:19,946 --> 00:41:22,347
And I would look at them and I would
just shake my head,
752
00:41:22,348 --> 00:41:24,950
and I would tell
them, no, no, no.
753
00:41:24,951 --> 00:41:26,185
- Well, my students and I,
754
00:41:26,186 --> 00:41:27,486
we’re all looking at each
other, like,
755
00:41:27,487 --> 00:41:28,921
you know, what do we do?
756
00:41:28,922 --> 00:41:31,757
But it could’ve been the shooter
trying to lure us out.
757
00:41:31,758 --> 00:41:34,193
You open up your door and
you open up the possibility
758
00:41:34,194 --> 00:41:36,429
of getting all your students
and yourself killed.
759
00:41:37,898 --> 00:41:39,800
- [Anthony] Help, help!
760
00:41:44,871 --> 00:41:46,673
Help, please, help me!
761
00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:48,809
Please!
762
00:41:56,249 --> 00:41:57,883
(tense music)
763
00:41:57,884 --> 00:41:59,720
- Ben was screaming for help.
764
00:42:01,988 --> 00:42:05,658
And Ms. Reoven was able to
rush over to him
765
00:42:05,659 --> 00:42:07,492
and help bandage some of
his wounds
766
00:42:07,493 --> 00:42:08,794
and we were able to quiet
him down
767
00:42:08,795 --> 00:42:10,763
because we didn’t know where
the shooter was.
768
00:42:10,764 --> 00:42:12,231
- He asked for water.
769
00:42:12,232 --> 00:42:14,967
I gave him the bottle of water that
I had on my desk.
770
00:42:14,968 --> 00:42:16,669
And he drank that water.
771
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:19,905
I saw Samantha, she was shot in the knee.
772
00:42:19,906 --> 00:42:21,541
I saw she was stable.
773
00:42:21,542 --> 00:42:26,547
- I was kneeling down on
the ground and stood up
774
00:42:27,981 --> 00:42:30,950
and saw Maddy slumped against
the front side of the desk.
775
00:42:30,951 --> 00:42:35,220
(students yelling and crying)
776
00:42:35,221 --> 00:42:36,255
- [Student] Maddy?
777
00:42:36,256 --> 00:42:37,790
- Then I went back to Maddy
778
00:42:37,791 --> 00:42:40,593
and Maddy, I could see she
was shot multiple times,
779
00:42:40,594 --> 00:42:41,994
but I didn’t know exactly where.
780
00:42:41,995 --> 00:42:43,963
She was in and out
of consciousness
781
00:42:43,964 --> 00:42:46,498
and she turned pale white,
her lips were white.
782
00:42:46,499 --> 00:42:47,567
She was moaning and groaning
783
00:42:47,568 --> 00:42:48,734
and then there was some silence.
784
00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:50,102
I saw it was multiple wounds,
785
00:42:50,103 --> 00:42:51,937
but I didn’t know
exactly where they were,
786
00:42:51,938 --> 00:42:53,506
so I was afraid to move her
787
00:42:53,507 --> 00:42:56,275
and because I left her the way
she was, that saved her life.
788
00:42:56,276 --> 00:42:57,810
Otherwise if I laid her flat,
789
00:42:57,811 --> 00:43:00,312
from what I understand, her
lungs would’ve collapsed.
790
00:43:00,313 --> 00:43:05,285
- I was asked by a
classmate to bandage Maddy
791
00:43:06,152 --> 00:43:07,419
because she wasn’t moving
792
00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:09,262
and was no longer
making any noise.
793
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:13,693
(students screaming and crying)
794
00:43:13,694 --> 00:43:15,394
And so I walked over to Maddy
795
00:43:15,395 --> 00:43:18,263
and wrapped the jean jacket
I was given around her arm
796
00:43:18,264 --> 00:43:19,899
and then used the other
side of the jean jacket
797
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:24,036
to kinda hold against her torso
area where she was also hit.
798
00:43:24,037 --> 00:43:25,270
And that’s where I stayed
799
00:43:25,271 --> 00:43:27,594
until the officers came and got us.
800
00:43:28,341 --> 00:43:29,609
- [Man] Three down!
801
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:30,442
- [Student] Three injured.
802
00:43:30,443 --> 00:43:31,877
- [Man] Three injured.
803
00:43:31,878 --> 00:43:33,078
Is anybody injured?
804
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:34,379
- Yes!
- Anybody shot?
805
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:35,314
- Yes.
- Where?
806
00:43:35,315 --> 00:43:36,582
Come here.
- Right here.
807
00:43:36,583 --> 00:43:37,950
Right here.
808
00:43:37,951 --> 00:43:39,151
- [Officer] Come
on, can you walk?
809
00:43:39,152 --> 00:43:40,786
- We’ve got three.
- Where were you shot?
810
00:43:40,787 --> 00:43:42,387
- [Student] Oh my God.
811
00:43:42,388 --> 00:43:44,156
(students yelling and crying)
812
00:43:44,157 --> 00:43:47,492
- Please, let us go,
can we, can we go?
813
00:43:47,493 --> 00:43:48,427
(officer groans)
814
00:43:48,428 --> 00:43:50,530
- I need help, I need help.
815
00:43:50,531 --> 00:43:51,597
(groans) Somebody help me.
816
00:43:51,598 --> 00:43:53,332
- [Student] Oh my God.
817
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:54,900
- [Officer] Look out, look
out, look out, look out.
818
00:43:54,901 --> 00:43:56,502
- [Student] Oh my God.
819
00:43:56,503 --> 00:43:58,003
(students crying)
820
00:43:58,004 --> 00:44:00,440
- [Officer] We have two more.
821
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:04,877
- We’re gonna get you out okay.
822
00:44:04,878 --> 00:44:06,445
We’re gonna get you out of here.
823
00:44:06,446 --> 00:44:08,013
We’re gonna get you outta here.
824
00:44:08,014 --> 00:44:09,214
I need your help.
825
00:44:09,215 --> 00:44:11,250
- [Officer] You
need my help, boss?
826
00:44:11,251 --> 00:44:13,352
(students crying)
827
00:44:13,353 --> 00:44:15,187
- Logan, my desk,
see my water bottle,
828
00:44:15,188 --> 00:44:16,455
could you get my phone?
829
00:44:16,456 --> 00:44:17,957
- [Logan] Let me see.
830
00:44:17,958 --> 00:44:20,259
- With the bag, with the water
bottle next to the balloon.
831
00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:23,163
(students crying)
832
00:44:24,698 --> 00:44:25,699
Yes.
833
00:44:30,436 --> 00:44:33,338
- [Officer] Let’s go, come on,
let’s go, get out, let’s go.
834
00:44:33,339 --> 00:44:35,207
Come on, follow me,
follow me, follow me.
835
00:44:35,208 --> 00:44:36,909
Come on, let’s go.
- Coral Springs Police.
836
00:44:36,910 --> 00:44:38,878
- [Student] Where, where?
837
00:44:38,879 --> 00:44:40,145
(students screaming)
838
00:44:40,146 --> 00:44:41,313
- [Officer] Hug the
wall, hug the wall.
839
00:44:41,314 --> 00:44:42,796
- [Officer] Everybody,
go, go, go, go.
840
00:44:43,183 --> 00:44:45,085
- [Student] Oh my God.
841
00:44:47,453 --> 00:44:49,855
- Onto the street.
- Oh my God.
842
00:44:49,856 --> 00:44:51,123
(student sobbing)
843
00:44:51,124 --> 00:44:54,860
- [Officer] All right,
come on, come on.
844
00:44:54,861 --> 00:44:57,798
(officers yelling)
845
00:45:12,245 --> 00:45:15,480
- Helena was sitting upright
with her head leaned over
846
00:45:15,481 --> 00:45:17,282
and Nick was down on his side.
847
00:45:17,283 --> 00:45:19,318
And then I grabbed Helena’s hand
848
00:45:19,319 --> 00:45:22,321
and I didn’t let go until SWAT came in.
849
00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:24,990
- And so when the SWAT
team came in,
850
00:45:24,991 --> 00:45:26,559
they said who’s injured?
851
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,561
And that’s when Sam Fuentes
stood up
852
00:45:28,562 --> 00:45:32,932
and it looked like from the movie
Carrie at the end when,
853
00:45:32,933 --> 00:45:34,399
I couldn’t see any of her.
854
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,069
She was just standing
and, but she was standing,
855
00:45:37,070 --> 00:45:39,872
but she was standing
completely covered in blood,
856
00:45:39,873 --> 00:45:43,442
and I was in shock and
then they took her out
857
00:45:43,443 --> 00:45:45,711
and they told us
don’t look down.
858
00:45:45,712 --> 00:45:47,547
You know, they didn’t
want us to look anywhere,
859
00:45:47,548 --> 00:45:50,950
just look straight ahead and walk out.
860
00:45:50,951 --> 00:45:55,721
- I didn’t really know how badly
injured I was,
861
00:45:55,722 --> 00:46:00,425
only after the girl next to
Helena, she told me.
862
00:46:00,426 --> 00:46:02,895
She said Sam, you’re grazed.
863
00:46:02,896 --> 00:46:04,396
And I didn’t know
what that meant,
864
00:46:04,397 --> 00:46:07,834
I was still very kind of
disoriented and confused.
865
00:46:08,935 --> 00:46:10,435
But I knew I was
injured of some sort,
866
00:46:10,436 --> 00:46:13,272
so I raised my hand and
then I said, I’m injured.
867
00:46:13,273 --> 00:46:18,278
And I actually was escorted
out of the classroom.
868
00:46:19,012 --> 00:46:20,179
- [Officer] Come on.
869
00:46:20,180 --> 00:46:21,080
- Keep going.
- Drop the backpack.
870
00:46:21,081 --> 00:46:22,648
Drop the bag, just go.
871
00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:23,916
Go, go, go, go.
872
00:46:23,917 --> 00:46:25,618
- [Officer] Keep heading
towards the street, go.
873
00:46:25,619 --> 00:46:26,752
- [Dispatcher]
Headquarters to PD2.
874
00:46:26,753 --> 00:46:28,654
(tense music)
875
00:46:28,655 --> 00:46:31,156
- There was like this thought that
it just wasn’t real.
876
00:46:31,157 --> 00:46:32,725
That it was actors.
877
00:46:32,726 --> 00:46:37,731
Which doesn’t make sense now, and
then we got outside.
878
00:46:38,932 --> 00:46:40,399
At this time, I was
just in total shock,
879
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,134
like, I was crying, I was
having a panic attack,
880
00:46:42,135 --> 00:46:44,937
and I remember just
my legs and my arms
881
00:46:44,938 --> 00:46:48,407
going completely numb and
I just fell to the ground
882
00:46:48,408 --> 00:46:50,543
and I just sat there and I cried.
883
00:46:50,544 --> 00:46:52,305
- It took me a few moments to,
884
00:46:53,647 --> 00:46:56,249
to leave the room because when I
started to walk,
885
00:46:57,317 --> 00:47:01,320
that’s when the reality of
the students
886
00:47:01,321 --> 00:47:03,188
that were still in the classroom
887
00:47:03,189 --> 00:47:06,058
kinda washed over me because
I knew we had injured,
888
00:47:06,059 --> 00:47:07,660
I knew there was blood, I knew,
889
00:47:07,661 --> 00:47:10,564
but I didn’t want it to be
890
00:47:11,998 --> 00:47:14,160
that they were not gonna be
able to get out of there.
891
00:47:15,569 --> 00:47:16,468
- [Charlie] What did you
see exactly
892
00:47:16,469 --> 00:47:18,437
when you left your room?
893
00:47:18,438 --> 00:47:19,720
- I mean.
894
00:47:24,545 --> 00:47:26,078
It was pretty bad.
895
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:29,015
The first thing that
I recognized was a,
896
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:32,252
a path of blood like
someone had been dragged
897
00:47:33,419 --> 00:47:35,387
in front of my doorway.
898
00:47:35,388 --> 00:47:39,192
And when I looked
up, Scott Beigel
899
00:47:40,761 --> 00:47:45,064
was in his little alcove,
his door was open.
900
00:47:45,065 --> 00:47:47,668
(sullen music)
901
00:47:49,102 --> 00:47:50,603
- I remember standing up,
902
00:47:50,604 --> 00:47:52,538
and the first thing I saw was Mr.
Beigel on the floor
903
00:47:52,539 --> 00:47:55,140
because he was next door to Ms.
Lippel’s class.
904
00:47:55,141 --> 00:47:56,942
And I remember just
breaking down,
905
00:47:56,943 --> 00:47:59,979
like I just couldn’t breathe,
906
00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:02,948
but they made me stand up and leave anyway.
907
00:48:02,949 --> 00:48:04,216
- After they let us out,
908
00:48:04,217 --> 00:48:07,687
we had to walk behind each
other in a line,
909
00:48:07,688 --> 00:48:10,122
hold each other’s shoulders like this.
910
00:48:10,123 --> 00:48:14,259
And when I was
walking, I looked down,
911
00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:18,698
and I saw two bodies of two
girls on top of each other
912
00:48:18,699 --> 00:48:20,099
and I looked down and I
immediately looked away
913
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,568
because I knew if I
looked at it any more
914
00:48:22,569 --> 00:48:27,306
I would get super traumatized
or if it was somebody I knew.
915
00:48:27,307 --> 00:48:29,174
I just, I couldn’t take it.
916
00:48:29,175 --> 00:48:30,910
- Police were telling us
not to look
917
00:48:30,911 --> 00:48:32,678
and to look away, but I mean,
918
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:35,615
how could you not look at something
so terrible?
919
00:48:35,616 --> 00:48:38,651
Like how could you divert your eyes
from your friends
920
00:48:38,652 --> 00:48:40,786
who are laying on the
floor next to you?
921
00:48:40,787 --> 00:48:42,788
Like, as you’re slipping
in their own blood?
922
00:48:42,789 --> 00:48:46,025
Like, I don’t, I could
never forget that.
923
00:48:46,026 --> 00:48:48,795
- I saw someone in white pants
924
00:48:49,963 --> 00:48:52,464
and I remember a kid
in my class, Joaquin,
925
00:48:52,465 --> 00:48:55,167
was wearing white pants
that day and a pink shirt.
926
00:48:55,168 --> 00:48:56,970
And everyone just
knew it was him.
927
00:48:58,004 --> 00:49:00,005
And that’s when everyone
that was in the line
928
00:49:00,006 --> 00:49:01,707
when we had our hands up
walking down the hallway,
929
00:49:01,708 --> 00:49:04,276
we all started crying even
more than we already were.
930
00:49:04,277 --> 00:49:07,047
(camera clicks)
931
00:49:08,448 --> 00:49:11,183
- What I saw was people
holding each other outside,
932
00:49:11,184 --> 00:49:12,952
teachers sitting
down on the grass
933
00:49:12,953 --> 00:49:15,588
just stunned with tears
coming down their eyes
934
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:16,822
and then some of us, like me,
935
00:49:16,823 --> 00:49:19,258
I was just walking
around like a zombie.
936
00:49:19,259 --> 00:49:20,693
And I just remember us
looking at each other,
937
00:49:20,694 --> 00:49:22,162
like what just happened?
938
00:49:36,610 --> 00:49:38,878
(tense music)
939
00:49:38,879 --> 00:49:41,815
(shooter panting)
940
00:50:08,642 --> 00:50:11,244
(bell ringing)
941
00:50:17,618 --> 00:50:19,284
- We found out about it over the radio.
942
00:50:19,285 --> 00:50:22,755
I was here in my office at the
time of the call.
943
00:50:22,756 --> 00:50:24,156
Found out over the police radio
944
00:50:24,157 --> 00:50:26,091
that there had been a shooting,
945
00:50:26,092 --> 00:50:28,562
active shooter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas.
946
00:50:30,296 --> 00:50:33,165
That is not in our city, we’re in the
city of Coconut Creek,
947
00:50:33,166 --> 00:50:35,768
but it is a neighboring
city, Parkland.
948
00:50:35,769 --> 00:50:37,570
I was listening to the
radio on the way there,
949
00:50:37,571 --> 00:50:40,472
hearing some updates, what
they were discovering,
950
00:50:40,473 --> 00:50:43,008
and it sounded as if
he had fled the school.
951
00:50:43,009 --> 00:50:45,477
There’s a lot of work to be
done inside the school still
952
00:50:45,478 --> 00:50:48,413
because we don’t know if
that information’s accurate,
953
00:50:48,414 --> 00:50:50,015
but we also have
to address the fact
954
00:50:50,016 --> 00:50:53,186
that he may be away from
school at the time too.
955
00:50:58,725 --> 00:51:01,562
(shooter panting)
956
00:51:08,735 --> 00:51:12,172
(police sirens blaring)
957
00:51:17,277 --> 00:51:20,880
It was overwhelming, there was
a lot of police force there
958
00:51:20,881 --> 00:51:22,414
by the time I had arrived.
959
00:51:22,415 --> 00:51:24,283
My mind started
wondering, you know,
960
00:51:24,284 --> 00:51:27,286
if he has left the school,
me running towards the school
961
00:51:27,287 --> 00:51:28,689
was that the best thing?
962
00:51:33,927 --> 00:51:35,127
A call came across the radio,
963
00:51:35,128 --> 00:51:37,530
which kinda helped
me make the decision.
964
00:51:37,531 --> 00:51:40,666
Dispatch advised that he
may be at the McDonald’s,
965
00:51:40,667 --> 00:51:43,368
which is close to the area.
966
00:51:43,369 --> 00:51:44,870
All these other
agencies are here
967
00:51:44,871 --> 00:51:47,139
and they may not know
where that McDonald’s is,
968
00:51:47,140 --> 00:51:49,575
and I wanted to make
sure that someone
969
00:51:49,576 --> 00:51:52,845
went to that direction and
covered that possibility.
970
00:51:52,846 --> 00:51:54,814
That’s what led me to leave.
971
00:51:54,815 --> 00:51:56,348
- [Charlie] And how
did someone know
972
00:51:56,349 --> 00:51:58,283
that he might’ve been there?
973
00:51:58,284 --> 00:51:59,319
- That I don’t know.
974
00:52:00,921 --> 00:52:03,188
It could’ve been some
type of phone call,
975
00:52:03,189 --> 00:52:05,625
something, I don’t
know that part, it was,
976
00:52:05,626 --> 00:52:07,387
that was all through dispatch.
977
00:52:08,529 --> 00:52:11,364
(shooter panting)
978
00:52:23,644 --> 00:52:24,710
- [Charlie] Now you got the
description
979
00:52:24,711 --> 00:52:25,878
of the shooter, correct?
980
00:52:25,879 --> 00:52:28,180
- That’s the only thing I had.
981
00:52:28,181 --> 00:52:30,583
They had given that over the
radio as well,
982
00:52:30,584 --> 00:52:33,586
they gave us a description of
what he was wearing
983
00:52:33,587 --> 00:52:35,521
and they gave us his name.
984
00:52:35,522 --> 00:52:37,891
- [Charlie] When
you saw the killer,
985
00:52:39,059 --> 00:52:41,226
did you know right
away it was him?
986
00:52:41,227 --> 00:52:42,228
- No.
987
00:52:43,329 --> 00:52:45,765
All’s I knew at
that point is I had
988
00:52:45,766 --> 00:52:50,235
a high school-looking
individual, a teenager,
989
00:52:50,236 --> 00:52:53,105
wearing the clothing
description that was given.
990
00:52:53,106 --> 00:52:55,228
- [Charlie] Did you have
a gut feeling it was him?
991
00:52:56,142 --> 00:52:57,743
- I kinda did.
992
00:52:57,744 --> 00:52:59,712
- [Charlie] What was he doing
exactly, when you saw him?
993
00:52:59,713 --> 00:53:00,946
- He was walking.
994
00:53:00,947 --> 00:53:02,548
His back was to
me, he was walking
995
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:04,817
in an eastbound direction
on the sidewalk.
996
00:53:04,818 --> 00:53:07,060
- [Charlie] You would think
a guy on the run like that.
997
00:53:08,121 --> 00:53:09,288
I mean, would you really
be walking alone like that
998
00:53:09,289 --> 00:53:10,489
out in the clear?
999
00:53:10,490 --> 00:53:11,423
I mean, what did
you sense from him?
1000
00:53:11,424 --> 00:53:13,058
That he wanted to get away
1001
00:53:13,059 --> 00:53:16,361
or he knew he was gonna get
caught and he just surrendered?
1002
00:53:16,362 --> 00:53:18,497
- He seemed like he was focused.
1003
00:53:18,498 --> 00:53:19,900
He had a focus forward.
1004
00:53:21,067 --> 00:53:22,602
I’m not really sure
what he was thinking.
1005
00:53:22,603 --> 00:53:24,771
I don’t know if he was
planning an escape.
1006
00:53:26,006 --> 00:53:27,907
I don’t know what
was on his mind,
1007
00:53:27,908 --> 00:53:30,876
but he appeared to be focused,
his head was straight ahead
1008
00:53:30,877 --> 00:53:33,746
and just walking with, it
seemed, with a purpose.
1009
00:53:33,747 --> 00:53:37,883
The area where I found him is
a quiet residential roadway.
1010
00:53:37,884 --> 00:53:39,719
I immediately
stopped my vehicle.
1011
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,254
He continued to walk, he
did not see me or hear me
1012
00:53:42,255 --> 00:53:44,189
’cause I was behind him,
1013
00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:46,726
and I drew my weapon as I
stepped out of the vehicle
1014
00:53:46,727 --> 00:53:48,427
and when I slammed the door,
1015
00:53:48,428 --> 00:53:51,063
he looked over his shoulder
’cause he heard the door close.
1016
00:53:51,064 --> 00:53:53,999
And at that point, I was
already drawn down on him.
1017
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,601
Had my weapon pointed at him
1018
00:53:55,602 --> 00:53:57,737
and started giving
him verbal commands.
1019
00:53:57,738 --> 00:53:59,972
- [Charlie] And he complied
with everything right away?
1020
00:53:59,973 --> 00:54:01,040
- Yes, he did.
1021
00:54:01,041 --> 00:54:04,444
(police sirens blaring)
1022
00:54:44,785 --> 00:54:47,554
(camera clicks)
1023
00:54:49,790 --> 00:54:50,990
- I get a call from my editor.
1024
00:54:50,991 --> 00:54:53,225
I think I had seen the
push alert
1025
00:54:53,226 --> 00:54:54,660
come in through the phone.
1026
00:54:54,661 --> 00:54:56,161
You know, there’s a shooting
at a high school,
1027
00:54:56,162 --> 00:55:00,032
but I mean, we get so many of
these kind of alerts
1028
00:55:00,033 --> 00:55:01,266
and it turns out to be unfounded.
1029
00:55:01,267 --> 00:55:03,035
There’s nothing actually happened.
1030
00:55:03,036 --> 00:55:04,704
At first it didn’t alarm me,
1031
00:55:04,705 --> 00:55:07,139
until I got the call
and my editor said,
1032
00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:10,375
you’re the closest person
to Marjory Stoneman Douglas.
1033
00:55:10,376 --> 00:55:11,977
You need to leave right
now, you need to go there.
1034
00:55:11,978 --> 00:55:14,046
I was on the highway
heading there
1035
00:55:14,047 --> 00:55:16,882
that I started seeing
the cops pass me by
1036
00:55:16,883 --> 00:55:19,719
and it was car after
car after car after car
1037
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:21,486
with the sirens blaring
1038
00:55:21,487 --> 00:55:23,523
and that’s when it
started to sink in.
1039
00:55:23,524 --> 00:55:25,925
(woman sobbing)
1040
00:55:25,926 --> 00:55:27,426
- [Man] Sherry.
1041
00:55:27,427 --> 00:55:29,662
- As soon as I got there, I
parked right off the highway.
1042
00:55:29,663 --> 00:55:30,863
There was no parking, I mean,
1043
00:55:30,864 --> 00:55:33,132
everything was
completely full of cars,
1044
00:55:33,133 --> 00:55:34,366
full of people in the streets,
1045
00:55:34,367 --> 00:55:36,302
parents running
around screaming,
1046
00:55:37,604 --> 00:55:39,905
and I just threw
my car to the side,
1047
00:55:39,906 --> 00:55:41,641
I parked really
quickly next to a tree
1048
00:55:41,642 --> 00:55:43,543
and started running in the
direction of the school.
1049
00:55:43,544 --> 00:55:45,778
The parents were screaming,
1050
00:55:45,779 --> 00:55:48,047
they were trying to reason
with the police officers
1051
00:55:48,048 --> 00:55:49,348
and the officers,
1052
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:50,816
they were just trying
to keep everything calm.
1053
00:55:50,817 --> 00:55:52,417
The kids were kind
of hysterical,
1054
00:55:52,418 --> 00:55:55,087
they were talking to each
other, some were crying,
1055
00:55:55,088 --> 00:55:57,890
some were just sitting
like staring blankly.
1056
00:55:57,891 --> 00:55:59,526
It was a very eerie scene.
1057
00:56:03,496 --> 00:56:06,900
The next thing I remember or I
kinda heard what is,
1058
00:56:08,434 --> 00:56:12,438
the guys coming into our rooms and
checking everybody.
1059
00:56:13,874 --> 00:56:15,975
And I remember them
putting me on a stretcher,
1060
00:56:15,976 --> 00:56:19,512
I couldn’t see ’cause
I was kinda out of it,
1061
00:56:19,513 --> 00:56:22,548
but I remember hearing
some faint voices.
1062
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:24,316
- Actually when the officers
1063
00:56:24,317 --> 00:56:26,185
took the injured out of the
classroom,
1064
00:56:26,186 --> 00:56:30,055
they only took Sam and Ben
and left Carmen and Maddy
1065
00:56:30,056 --> 00:56:33,358
because they thought that
they were both deceased.
1066
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:35,995
And they returned to the classroom
two or three more times
1067
00:56:35,996 --> 00:56:38,063
to find that Maddy
was actually breathing
1068
00:56:38,064 --> 00:56:40,600
and that’s when they took
her out of the classroom
1069
00:56:40,601 --> 00:56:43,268
and started bringing
her to the ambulance
1070
00:56:43,269 --> 00:56:44,704
and started working on her.
1071
00:56:44,705 --> 00:56:47,472
- Blacked out again
until the paramedics
1072
00:56:47,473 --> 00:56:49,274
woke me up in the ambulance.
1073
00:56:49,275 --> 00:56:53,212
- This BSO SWAT officer had already
put a chest seal
1074
00:56:53,213 --> 00:56:56,749
on Maddy’s entrance wound,
1075
00:56:56,750 --> 00:56:59,118
which looked like a size of a dollar bill.
1076
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:04,057
It was a big size and her elbow
was also shattered.
1077
00:57:04,925 --> 00:57:07,259
That’s when I told the guys,
1078
00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:09,461
I need a baseline
set of vital signs.
1079
00:57:09,462 --> 00:57:14,066
Usually when a person is
in a deep state of shock,
1080
00:57:14,067 --> 00:57:16,736
the blood is shunted
away from the periphery
1081
00:57:16,737 --> 00:57:19,304
and into your core organs.
1082
00:57:19,305 --> 00:57:23,175
So that’s why you get pale,
that’s why you get no pulses,
1083
00:57:23,176 --> 00:57:26,178
and it’s very difficult
to start an IV,
1084
00:57:26,179 --> 00:57:27,479
so an intravenous line.
1085
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,450
So at that point it
was like by experience,
1086
00:57:31,451 --> 00:57:34,053
I go, start an IO.
1087
00:57:34,054 --> 00:57:35,888
And that’s an
intraosseous needle
1088
00:57:35,889 --> 00:57:39,391
that’s drilled into the
head of your humerus.
1089
00:57:39,392 --> 00:57:40,660
And that is so easy
1090
00:57:40,661 --> 00:57:42,863
because all you have to
do is find the landmark.
1091
00:57:49,402 --> 00:57:51,765
- [Charlie] Tell us how you found out.
1092
00:57:52,706 --> 00:57:55,908
- I was at work in Nashville,
1093
00:57:55,909 --> 00:57:59,178
in a meeting with about 15
other colleagues
1094
00:57:59,179 --> 00:58:04,117
and Maddy’s mom called and left
a message with me
1095
00:58:04,985 --> 00:58:06,251
and I looked down at my phone
1096
00:58:06,252 --> 00:58:07,987
and there was like a
voice to text thing
1097
00:58:07,988 --> 00:58:10,856
and saw part of her message
1098
00:58:10,857 --> 00:58:12,491
about there’s been a
shooting at the school
1099
00:58:12,492 --> 00:58:15,160
and I was, I was like what?
1100
00:58:15,161 --> 00:58:17,129
I didn’t even, like,
register in my mind
1101
00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:19,164
like what is, what is this?
1102
00:58:19,165 --> 00:58:21,133
So I got up and listened
to her voicemail
1103
00:58:21,134 --> 00:58:23,469
and she was like screaming,
1104
00:58:24,838 --> 00:58:26,038
there’s been a
shooting at the school
1105
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:28,373
and I haven’t heard
from Madeleine.
1106
00:58:28,374 --> 00:58:31,110
(tense music)
1107
00:58:31,111 --> 00:58:33,112
I booked a ticket on Southwest
1108
00:58:33,113 --> 00:58:35,414
that they had three hours later,
1109
00:58:35,415 --> 00:58:36,949
I got to the airport,
1110
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:40,019
and it’s all over the CNN
and the screens everywhere
1111
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:41,521
and people are like,
oh my goodness.
1112
00:58:41,522 --> 00:58:45,091
I’m, like, staring at this
CNN screen trying to, like,
1113
00:58:47,293 --> 00:58:49,494
see if I could
see her, you know,
1114
00:58:49,495 --> 00:58:52,298
is she in the crowd
somewhere and haven’t heard?
1115
00:58:53,499 --> 00:58:55,034
And when I got to the gate
1116
00:58:55,035 --> 00:58:57,436
and I was about to get on
the plane, Missy called me
1117
00:58:57,437 --> 00:58:59,740
and said that she was
at the hospital with her
1118
00:59:01,407 --> 00:59:02,743
and that she had been shot.
1119
00:59:04,878 --> 00:59:07,813
- Then I remember being
wheeled into the hospital,
1120
00:59:07,814 --> 00:59:10,150
into a trauma room.
1121
00:59:12,152 --> 00:59:15,821
And then I blacked out
and then I remember
1122
00:59:15,822 --> 00:59:19,324
getting a CT scan.
1123
00:59:19,325 --> 00:59:20,860
- And I just walked
in and saw her
1124
00:59:20,861 --> 00:59:23,163
and she looked like she’d
been run over by a truck.
1125
00:59:26,867 --> 00:59:30,136
And there was cops everywhere
and my son was there,
1126
00:59:32,405 --> 00:59:33,906
I actually remember
walking in and thinking,
1127
00:59:33,907 --> 00:59:35,742
thank God she’s alive.
1128
00:59:40,413 --> 00:59:42,582
- Maddy Wilford played
basketball for me
1129
00:59:42,583 --> 00:59:44,817
at Stoneman Douglas and
she came out
1130
00:59:44,818 --> 00:59:49,054
as a ninth grader, played JV and was
a phenomenal person.
1131
00:59:49,055 --> 00:59:52,391
That night obviously I
wasn’t sleeping
1132
00:59:52,392 --> 00:59:55,160
and many people weren’t,
so I texted Maddy’s mom,
1133
00:59:55,161 --> 00:59:57,030
and I asked, you know, please,
1134
00:59:58,565 --> 01:00:00,199
I haven’t heard from
Maddy, is she okay?
1135
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,803
And her mom told me she was
having her second surgery
1136
01:00:03,804 --> 01:00:05,470
at 3:30 in the morning.
1137
01:00:05,471 --> 01:00:10,209
And that’s when I found out
that she had been injured.
1138
01:00:10,210 --> 01:00:12,411
I instinctively took a picture
1139
01:00:12,412 --> 01:00:14,113
that I had on my
phone and I posted it
1140
01:00:14,114 --> 01:00:15,948
asking for prayers
on my Facebook page
1141
01:00:15,949 --> 01:00:18,417
and on South Florida
Girls Basketball website
1142
01:00:18,418 --> 01:00:23,255
and the outreach was
completely unexpected
1143
01:00:23,256 --> 01:00:27,927
and something that
I still am in awe of
1144
01:00:27,928 --> 01:00:29,161
and the fact that it was shared
1145
01:00:29,162 --> 01:00:31,331
a quarter of a million
times around the world.
1146
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:36,036
(students chattering)
1147
01:00:41,341 --> 01:00:44,443
(students cheering)
1148
01:00:44,444 --> 01:00:47,980
- [Charlie] People have called
your daughter a miracle.
1149
01:00:47,981 --> 01:00:49,349
How does that make you feel?
1150
01:00:52,786 --> 01:00:54,020
- Yeah, she is a miracle.
1151
01:00:58,592 --> 01:01:00,860
- [Charlie] Do you consider
yourself a miracle?
1152
01:01:00,861 --> 01:01:01,794
That you’re living?
1153
01:01:01,795 --> 01:01:02,796
- Yeah.
1154
01:01:03,830 --> 01:01:04,831
Yeah.
1155
01:01:05,832 --> 01:01:08,868
Because just the way
the bullets went in me
1156
01:01:08,869 --> 01:01:12,004
and the way the
doctors operated on me
1157
01:01:12,005 --> 01:01:15,108
and the fact that I stayed
in the hospital for a week.
1158
01:01:17,310 --> 01:01:18,912
Definitely a miracle.
1159
01:01:22,983 --> 01:01:25,385
- [Charlie] And when you,
you were slumped over,
1160
01:01:26,787 --> 01:01:30,724
and you were in a position
where you wouldn’t bleed out,
1161
01:01:32,058 --> 01:01:33,759
now did you make a conscious
decision to do that?
1162
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,362
Was that instinctive
or that was just luck?
1163
01:01:38,431 --> 01:01:39,264
- I think that was just luck.
1164
01:01:39,265 --> 01:01:40,266
- [Charlie] Wow!
1165
01:01:43,637 --> 01:01:47,406
- Dr. Mergle worked
on my arm and my ribs.
1166
01:01:47,407 --> 01:01:50,343
Stitched together my
arm because it had,
1167
01:01:52,112 --> 01:01:54,580
the bullet went through
my arm and around
1168
01:01:54,581 --> 01:01:57,517
and came out here and
kinda exploded it.
1169
01:01:57,518 --> 01:02:01,554
And so he patched that together,
1170
01:02:01,555 --> 01:02:05,058
and he also put titanium
plates in my ribs.
1171
01:02:06,026 --> 01:02:07,727
I also had a hole in my lung,
1172
01:02:07,728 --> 01:02:10,696
but thankfully
because I was healthy,
1173
01:02:10,697 --> 01:02:12,131
they didn’t have to replace it.
1174
01:02:12,132 --> 01:02:17,003
Dr. Nichiporenko sewed together
my stomach or my abdomen.
1175
01:02:28,281 --> 01:02:30,216
I’m Madeleine Wilford.
1176
01:02:31,785 --> 01:02:35,288
(Maddy laughs nervously)
1177
01:02:45,165 --> 01:02:46,900
And I’d just like to say that
1178
01:02:49,335 --> 01:02:50,803
I’m so grateful to be here
1179
01:02:50,804 --> 01:02:55,107
and it wouldn’t be possible
without those officers
1180
01:02:55,108 --> 01:02:59,845
and first responders and
these amazing doctors
1181
01:02:59,846 --> 01:03:02,515
and especially all the love
that everyone has sent,
1182
01:03:02,516 --> 01:03:05,585
and I was sitting on my
couch today
1183
01:03:05,586 --> 01:03:07,620
just thinking about all the
letters and gifts
1184
01:03:07,621 --> 01:03:11,256
that everyone has given and just
like all the love
1185
01:03:11,257 --> 01:03:12,892
that’s been passed around.
1186
01:03:12,893 --> 01:03:15,294
I definitely wouldn’t
be here without it
1187
01:03:15,295 --> 01:03:18,798
and I just wanna
send my appreciation,
1188
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:20,601
love out to all of you and,
1189
01:03:23,103 --> 01:03:27,406
that, like my mom said, it’s
times like these when I know
1190
01:03:27,407 --> 01:03:28,808
that we need to stick together
1191
01:03:28,809 --> 01:03:33,713
and I’ve seen a lot
of positive posts
1192
01:03:33,714 --> 01:03:35,581
about what’s been
going on at the school
1193
01:03:35,582 --> 01:03:37,650
and I just love the fact
1194
01:03:37,651 --> 01:03:40,020
that we’re sticking
together at this and
1195
01:03:42,956 --> 01:03:45,658
I’m just glad that I’m
making a full recovery
1196
01:03:45,659 --> 01:03:48,228
and everything’s been
going so smoothly, so.
1197
01:03:49,129 --> 01:03:50,631
That’s all I have to say.
1198
01:03:55,001 --> 01:03:58,338
(bell ringing solemnly)
1199
01:04:00,373 --> 01:04:05,077
I was nervous and I guess
I just kinda broke down
1200
01:04:05,078 --> 01:04:09,181
because how grateful I
was to everyone out there,
1201
01:04:09,182 --> 01:04:10,883
I just wanted to let
them know that I was okay
1202
01:04:10,884 --> 01:04:14,154
and I was thankful for
all that they were doing.
1203
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,466
- [Charlie] What has this
whole experience
1204
01:04:27,467 --> 01:04:29,269
with Maddy meant to you?
1205
01:04:30,436 --> 01:04:34,675
- Well as a result of how God
saved Maddy,
1206
01:04:36,176 --> 01:04:39,612
the whole result has been that
it’s made me a better person
1207
01:04:39,613 --> 01:04:44,450
and it’s made me want to
help others even more.
1208
01:04:45,351 --> 01:04:46,392
For the glory of God.
1209
01:04:50,023 --> 01:04:51,190
- [Charlie] So that bullet
that hit her,
1210
01:04:51,191 --> 01:04:52,457
you really think woulda hit you?
1211
01:04:52,458 --> 01:04:53,693
- Yeah.
1212
01:04:53,694 --> 01:04:55,861
She was basically like my shield.
1213
01:04:55,862 --> 01:04:58,344
- [Charlie] Wow, so Maddy
Wilford literally
1214
01:04:58,899 --> 01:04:59,932
took a bullet for you?
1215
01:04:59,933 --> 01:05:00,934
- Yeah.
1216
01:05:06,573 --> 01:05:08,708
- [Charlie] How do you
live with that every day?
1217
01:05:08,709 --> 01:05:09,976
- Honestly, I don’t know.
1218
01:05:18,885 --> 01:05:21,888
I’m just grateful
that she’s alive.
1219
01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:25,925
And that she’s like,
she’s like a miracle
1220
01:05:25,926 --> 01:05:27,326
and she’s like brand new.
1221
01:05:27,327 --> 01:05:30,563
You don’t even notice
that she was shot
1222
01:05:30,564 --> 01:05:34,300
or even like in that
kinda condition.
1223
01:05:36,069 --> 01:05:37,436
- She said that I took
the bullets for her
1224
01:05:37,437 --> 01:05:39,639
and if I wasn’t in front of her
1225
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,542
that she would’ve
gotten them and...
1226
01:05:45,311 --> 01:05:48,514
I just, I didn’t really
know what to think,
1227
01:05:48,515 --> 01:05:51,785
but I was like I’m just glad
that you didn’t get hit.
1228
01:05:53,687 --> 01:05:55,355
And that I’m okay.
1229
01:05:57,824 --> 01:06:00,961
I’d take a bullet for her any
day and so, I mean, I’m okay.
1230
01:06:02,095 --> 01:06:04,898
So she didn’t have
to feel guilty about,
1231
01:06:05,766 --> 01:06:07,133
that I was in front of her.
1232
01:06:09,636 --> 01:06:13,172
- Maddy wrote on my yearbook,
girl, I love you so much.
1233
01:06:13,173 --> 01:06:14,473
I’m so blessed that I
got to know you this year
1234
01:06:14,474 --> 01:06:15,575
and we became close.
1235
01:06:15,576 --> 01:06:16,842
You’re amazing and strong
1236
01:06:16,843 --> 01:06:18,177
and I know you’ll
get through this.
1237
01:06:18,178 --> 01:06:19,411
I loved walking into class
1238
01:06:19,412 --> 01:06:22,548
and be lifted up when
I heard your laugh.
1239
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:25,484
It’s not your fault and
never think or feel guilty
1240
01:06:25,485 --> 01:06:26,819
that I got shot instead of you.
1241
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:28,721
I love you so much and
I would rather get hit
1242
01:06:28,722 --> 01:06:30,590
than see you struggle more.
1243
01:06:30,591 --> 01:06:32,357
I cherish all the
memories we created
1244
01:06:32,358 --> 01:06:34,760
and I’m happy I’m here
today to create more.
1245
01:06:34,761 --> 01:06:37,196
Keeping strong and you know
we’re here to support you.
1246
01:06:37,197 --> 01:06:38,130
I love you, Ivanna.
1247
01:06:38,131 --> 01:06:39,132
Maddy Wilford.
1248
01:06:59,152 --> 01:07:00,886
- I heard on the news that there
was a shooting
1249
01:07:00,887 --> 01:07:02,529
at a Florida high school
1250
01:07:03,156 --> 01:07:05,958
and of course I thought, first
thing was,
1251
01:07:05,959 --> 01:07:08,127
could this be at Scott’s high school?
1252
01:07:08,128 --> 01:07:11,564
- And the first thing I did
when I realized
1253
01:07:11,565 --> 01:07:13,699
what school it was and that it
was Scott’s school,
1254
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:15,400
is I texted Scott.
1255
01:07:15,401 --> 01:07:17,937
There’s no reason to worry unless
there’s a reason to worry.
1256
01:07:17,938 --> 01:07:19,371
My philosophy, I’m
not gonna worry
1257
01:07:19,372 --> 01:07:20,573
unless there’s a
reason to worry.
1258
01:07:20,574 --> 01:07:23,075
And in my mind, I
guess denial took over
1259
01:07:23,076 --> 01:07:24,798
’cause it couldn’t be my son.
1260
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:28,080
- The first thing I did was I texted him.
1261
01:07:28,081 --> 01:07:30,816
I got my phone, I said, are you okay?
1262
01:07:30,817 --> 01:07:33,018
Didn’t get an answer.
1263
01:07:33,019 --> 01:07:35,454
Then I said, I heard there’s a
shooting, are you okay?
1264
01:07:35,455 --> 01:07:37,156
Didn’t get an answer.
1265
01:07:37,157 --> 01:07:39,391
Called, went to voicemail.
1266
01:07:39,392 --> 01:07:43,095
- I got into the car and
I did put on the news
1267
01:07:43,096 --> 01:07:45,197
and I did hear in the car
1268
01:07:45,198 --> 01:07:48,634
that a geography teacher and
cross country coach was shot.
1269
01:07:48,635 --> 01:07:51,003
- We knew that Scott
was a geography teacher
1270
01:07:51,004 --> 01:07:53,005
and we still didn’t
know if it was Scott.
1271
01:07:53,006 --> 01:07:56,141
And we still kind of thought,
okay, it’s coincidental,
1272
01:07:56,142 --> 01:07:59,712
but it’s kinda narrowing things
down and we were worried.
1273
01:07:59,713 --> 01:08:02,081
My daughter called me and said,
1274
01:08:02,082 --> 01:08:05,485
Dad, I just heard
Scott’s name on the news.
1275
01:08:06,687 --> 01:08:09,655
And I believe that
was Kelsey Friend
1276
01:08:09,656 --> 01:08:11,924
that had mentioned
that her teacher,
1277
01:08:11,925 --> 01:08:14,059
the geography teacher, was shot,
1278
01:08:14,060 --> 01:08:15,782
and she didn’t
know if he made it.
1279
01:08:19,265 --> 01:08:20,900
I then looked at
Michael and I said,
1280
01:08:20,901 --> 01:08:23,870
we have to get down
to Florida tonight.
1281
01:08:24,938 --> 01:08:26,171
- We got on the plane.
1282
01:08:26,172 --> 01:08:27,974
It was a really
long plane flight.
1283
01:08:29,042 --> 01:08:31,243
We were all, I was trying
to convince everybody
1284
01:08:31,244 --> 01:08:32,612
that it’s really okay.
1285
01:08:32,613 --> 01:08:35,014
We’re gonna get there,
we’re gonna find out
1286
01:08:35,015 --> 01:08:36,381
where Scott is and
we’re just gonna go.
1287
01:08:36,382 --> 01:08:38,350
We’re gonna to find
out and it’s okay
1288
01:08:38,351 --> 01:08:40,252
that nobody knows and
nobody’s telling us anything
1289
01:08:40,253 --> 01:08:42,955
because maybe he’s
just one of the people
1290
01:08:42,956 --> 01:08:44,190
that they can’t identify.
1291
01:08:46,092 --> 01:08:49,194
- In my mind I knew
it was really bad
1292
01:08:49,195 --> 01:08:51,430
because if Scott was okay,
1293
01:08:51,431 --> 01:08:53,132
he would’ve found some
way of getting in touch.
1294
01:08:53,133 --> 01:08:54,800
Even if he didn’t
have his phone,
1295
01:08:54,801 --> 01:08:56,802
some way he would’ve said, I’m okay.
1296
01:08:56,803 --> 01:08:58,137
- We believed that, you
know what,
1297
01:08:58,138 --> 01:08:59,605
we were gonna end up going
to a hospital
1298
01:08:59,606 --> 01:09:01,040
and maybe he was critically
injured,
1299
01:09:01,041 --> 01:09:04,243
but he was gonna be okay, some
way, some how.
1300
01:09:04,244 --> 01:09:05,745
We ended up going to
the command center
1301
01:09:05,746 --> 01:09:08,313
and there were a lot of
people in that command center.
1302
01:09:08,314 --> 01:09:11,450
Some people were very upset,
some people were very quiet,
1303
01:09:11,451 --> 01:09:14,219
everybody was kinda
to themselves.
1304
01:09:14,220 --> 01:09:15,662
- Time went by,
1305
01:09:16,790 --> 01:09:21,193
and I think it was almost like 10 to
three in the morning,
1306
01:09:21,194 --> 01:09:25,464
they called us in
and I had my brother
1307
01:09:25,465 --> 01:09:29,469
and I had my husband and I
had a good friend of Scott’s,
1308
01:09:31,004 --> 01:09:35,074
and there were law enforcement.
1309
01:09:35,075 --> 01:09:38,778
There were probably six
or seven law enforcement,
1310
01:09:38,779 --> 01:09:40,813
so we were sitting
like in a circle.
1311
01:09:40,814 --> 01:09:43,683
So it was us and then them,
1312
01:09:43,684 --> 01:09:48,288
and one of the lady
law officers said,
1313
01:09:49,155 --> 01:09:51,124
she leaned forward and she said,
1314
01:09:52,559 --> 01:09:57,197
I have to tell you, your
son is definitely a hero.
1315
01:09:58,464 --> 01:10:01,867
And then two people
over from her,
1316
01:10:01,868 --> 01:10:06,338
one, a gentleman law
enforcement person said,
1317
01:10:06,339 --> 01:10:09,141
he definitely died a hero
because he didn’t make it.
1318
01:10:09,142 --> 01:10:11,677
So she told me my
son was a hero,
1319
01:10:11,678 --> 01:10:13,478
which I could’ve told
her my son was a hero
1320
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,481
before he saved people’s lives
1321
01:10:16,482 --> 01:10:19,853
and then two people over
said, but he didn’t make it.
1322
01:10:22,022 --> 01:10:22,988
Okay.
1323
01:10:22,989 --> 01:10:26,158
(somber music)
1324
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:27,493
What do you do?
1325
01:10:29,896 --> 01:10:31,197
I mean, what do you do?
1326
01:10:34,735 --> 01:10:38,204
I recall not wanting to throw
up in front of everybody.
1327
01:10:39,172 --> 01:10:40,473
So there were a lot of,
1328
01:10:41,975 --> 01:10:43,609
I mean there was like, oh
my God, there were tears.
1329
01:10:43,610 --> 01:10:45,344
I just walked to the
back of the room,
1330
01:10:45,345 --> 01:10:47,647
I remember there’s
a garbage pail there
1331
01:10:47,648 --> 01:10:49,149
and I threw up and I came back.
1332
01:10:50,350 --> 01:10:55,054
- And it was the worst
nightmare or thought
1333
01:10:55,055 --> 01:10:56,889
that we could ever have heard.
1334
01:10:56,890 --> 01:10:58,123
My sister asked some questions,
1335
01:10:58,124 --> 01:11:00,459
I was kind of
shocked that she had
1336
01:11:00,460 --> 01:11:03,395
the ability to actually ask
some questions but she did.
1337
01:11:03,396 --> 01:11:05,330
- And I gathered myself,
1338
01:11:05,331 --> 01:11:06,732
and I just had some
questions to ask,
1339
01:11:06,733 --> 01:11:08,801
I needed to answer
some questions.
1340
01:11:08,802 --> 01:11:12,773
I wanted to know when
can I see my son?
1341
01:11:14,174 --> 01:11:18,945
Okay, you just confirmed
to me that he’s dead, okay.
1342
01:11:20,113 --> 01:11:22,195
You waited a long time
to let me know this.
1343
01:11:23,149 --> 01:11:24,517
When can I see my son?
1344
01:11:24,518 --> 01:11:25,885
And I didn’t get an answer.
1345
01:11:25,886 --> 01:11:27,853
The answer was not acceptable.
1346
01:11:27,854 --> 01:11:30,556
The answer was
basically, you know,
1347
01:11:30,557 --> 01:11:33,358
as soon as we’re allowed
to let you see him.
1348
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:34,360
Not acceptable.
1349
01:11:36,530 --> 01:11:38,631
- Pretty much after that was a blur.
1350
01:11:38,632 --> 01:11:39,873
Okay.
1351
01:11:40,501 --> 01:11:42,802
Couldn’t believe it.
1352
01:11:42,803 --> 01:11:44,970
I say it’s like a bad dream wrapped
up in a nightmare
1353
01:11:44,971 --> 01:11:46,012
while living in hell.
1354
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:51,945
We stayed there, I don’t know,
it was 10 minutes, an hour.
1355
01:11:53,379 --> 01:11:54,313
We got escorted out and
Mark had made arrangements,
1356
01:11:54,314 --> 01:11:55,315
we went to a hotel.
1357
01:11:56,349 --> 01:11:57,850
I don’t know if we slept much,
1358
01:11:57,851 --> 01:12:00,986
I know I didn’t, I just sat
on the sofa watching TV.
1359
01:12:00,987 --> 01:12:02,488
I didn’t know what else to do.
1360
01:12:12,533 --> 01:12:14,800
(solemn music)
1361
01:12:14,801 --> 01:12:18,337
- Carmen’s such a beautiful,
brilliant...
1362
01:12:18,338 --> 01:12:19,839
- Brilliant.
- Introspective
1363
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:20,973
lovely young lady.
1364
01:12:20,974 --> 01:12:22,742
- Insightful.
1365
01:12:22,743 --> 01:12:24,544
- And she received the...
1366
01:12:24,545 --> 01:12:25,811
- National Merit.
1367
01:12:25,812 --> 01:12:27,547
- [Both] National
Merit Scholarship.
1368
01:12:27,548 --> 01:12:28,380
- [Charlie] The day after?
1369
01:12:28,381 --> 01:12:30,115
- [Ronit] A day after.
1370
01:12:30,116 --> 01:12:30,950
- [Charlie] Her murder?
1371
01:12:30,951 --> 01:12:31,884
- [Ivy] Yeah.
1372
01:12:31,885 --> 01:12:34,987
(somber music)
1373
01:12:34,988 --> 01:12:36,188
- We loved Sherlock.
1374
01:12:36,189 --> 01:12:38,457
That was like our, Sherlock
and Doctor Who
1375
01:12:38,458 --> 01:12:41,561
and Supernatural were like our
in-common shows.
1376
01:12:41,562 --> 01:12:45,397
She always had the perfect
winged eyeliner,
1377
01:12:45,398 --> 01:12:47,900
like my friend on graduation
did winged eyeliner
1378
01:12:47,901 --> 01:12:49,468
and red lips in honor of Carmen
1379
01:12:49,469 --> 01:12:52,004
’cause that was like
her look every day.
1380
01:12:52,005 --> 01:12:53,673
- She would always,
at the end of class,
1381
01:12:53,674 --> 01:12:55,841
when the kids were dismissed,
1382
01:12:55,842 --> 01:12:58,277
kids were, you know,
shuffling out of the classroom
1383
01:12:58,278 --> 01:13:00,746
and bye, Ms. Reoven, have
a good day, Ms. Reoven.
1384
01:13:00,747 --> 01:13:02,915
She’d always stop at
my desk and you know,
1385
01:13:02,916 --> 01:13:05,150
say something about the
lesson we just learned
1386
01:13:05,151 --> 01:13:08,020
or, you know, what she’s
gonna be doing the next day.
1387
01:13:08,021 --> 01:13:09,689
- Carmen was that
girl in the class
1388
01:13:09,690 --> 01:13:11,724
who everyone knew
was super bright
1389
01:13:11,725 --> 01:13:15,061
but we don’t really
talk that much.
1390
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:25,471
And, like,
1391
01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:28,007
I feel a sense of guilt
1392
01:13:28,008 --> 01:13:29,942
that we didn’t all get
to know her very well
1393
01:13:29,943 --> 01:13:31,144
when she was still here.
1394
01:13:56,302 --> 01:13:58,905
(sullen music)
1395
01:14:01,942 --> 01:14:03,909
- She was the first one to
make friends
1396
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:07,079
with anyone that she encountered
in her life.
1397
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,651
If you were new and came in her
path, hi, how are you?
1398
01:14:11,652 --> 01:14:13,853
I’m Gina, welcome.
1399
01:14:13,854 --> 01:14:18,190
And that was evident
from first grade.
1400
01:14:18,191 --> 01:14:20,661
She was starting to do
that again in high school.
1401
01:14:22,262 --> 01:14:23,462
- One of her favorite quotes
1402
01:14:23,463 --> 01:14:25,986
from that Percy Jackson series
of books was,
1403
01:14:28,301 --> 01:14:30,036
I’m not choosing your path.
1404
01:14:30,904 --> 01:14:32,037
- I’m making my own.
1405
01:14:32,038 --> 01:14:33,039
- I’m making my own.
1406
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:37,209
- [Charlie] Do you remember
the last time you were with her
1407
01:14:37,210 --> 01:14:39,880
and what you guys talked about?
1408
01:14:41,615 --> 01:14:44,217
- It was Valentine’s
Day morning, we,
1409
01:14:46,219 --> 01:14:47,452
she was getting ready to go
1410
01:14:47,453 --> 01:14:51,123
and we gave her a box
of chocolate roses.
1411
01:14:51,124 --> 01:14:53,627
Her middle name was Rose, and.
1412
01:14:55,228 --> 01:14:56,796
- Had to eat them
before they melt.
1413
01:14:56,797 --> 01:14:58,263
- Told her to eat them
before they melted
1414
01:14:58,264 --> 01:15:02,467
and gave her her card and
sent her on her way to school.
1415
01:15:02,468 --> 01:15:04,237
Said, we’ll see
her this afternoon.
1416
01:15:06,372 --> 01:15:07,807
- She helped me do this
art project
1417
01:15:07,808 --> 01:15:09,809
because she was such an amazing artist.
1418
01:15:09,810 --> 01:15:11,977
I had no idea what I was doing
1419
01:15:11,978 --> 01:15:14,914
and she came over to me and she’s
like, can I help you?
1420
01:15:14,915 --> 01:15:16,757
I was like, yes,
thank you so much.
1421
01:15:17,851 --> 01:15:20,786
And she just sat there
when she had work to do
1422
01:15:20,787 --> 01:15:22,888
and she decided to
help me instead.
1423
01:15:22,889 --> 01:15:24,123
- Loved talking to her.
1424
01:15:24,124 --> 01:15:26,258
Sometimes I’d be upset and
she’d look at me
1425
01:15:26,259 --> 01:15:27,492
and be, why are you upset?
1426
01:15:27,493 --> 01:15:30,062
And I’d tell her why and
she’d go,
1427
01:15:30,063 --> 01:15:31,931
well, do you see how
many other things
1428
01:15:31,932 --> 01:15:33,198
you can be happy about?
1429
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:35,267
That’s just one little problem.
1430
01:15:35,268 --> 01:15:37,837
- [Charlie] She was
killed when she was
1431
01:15:37,838 --> 01:15:40,606
doing an assignment
outside of room 1215.
1432
01:15:40,607 --> 01:15:42,374
Why was she out in the hallway?
1433
01:15:42,375 --> 01:15:46,279
- We don’t really know why
she wasn’t in the classroom.
1434
01:15:48,148 --> 01:15:51,651
We don’t pretend to understand
the policies and procedures.
1435
01:15:51,652 --> 01:15:56,256
Personally, I haven’t delved
that deeply into the situation,
1436
01:15:58,091 --> 01:16:01,694
the outcome is
disturbing enough for me.
1437
01:16:01,695 --> 01:16:03,929
- We have different
opinions about that.
1438
01:16:03,930 --> 01:16:08,935
I, as her mother, feel
some compelling interest
1439
01:16:10,103 --> 01:16:12,105
in knowing exactly
how it happened.
1440
01:16:13,740 --> 01:16:16,976
And when that time
comes and is revealed,
1441
01:16:16,977 --> 01:16:20,846
whether in court or other means,
1442
01:16:20,847 --> 01:16:23,816
I’ll be ready to deal
with that hopefully.
1443
01:16:23,817 --> 01:16:25,184
- [Charlie] If you had
one last moment with Gina,
1444
01:16:25,185 --> 01:16:26,486
what would you tell her?
1445
01:16:28,221 --> 01:16:31,557
- Well, tell her the same thing
we told her when she left.
1446
01:16:31,558 --> 01:16:32,626
- [Both] We love you.
1447
01:16:33,894 --> 01:16:34,895
- Have a great day.
1448
01:16:35,862 --> 01:16:37,097
And we’ll see you soon.
1449
01:16:58,785 --> 01:17:00,786
- Alyssa was beautiful.
1450
01:17:00,787 --> 01:17:03,422
She had such zest for life,
1451
01:17:03,423 --> 01:17:08,360
she took every opportunity to be
active with her friends.
1452
01:17:08,361 --> 01:17:10,696
She loved riding the
waves in the ocean,
1453
01:17:10,697 --> 01:17:14,099
she loved walking on the
beach, she was really smart.
1454
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:17,903
She already had 12 high school
credit classes as a freshman.
1455
01:17:17,904 --> 01:17:19,605
- We had been friends since
seventh grade,
1456
01:17:19,606 --> 01:17:22,241
so that’s the reason that we were
science partners.
1457
01:17:22,242 --> 01:17:23,375
When I found out she was
in the class,
1458
01:17:23,376 --> 01:17:24,577
I was really excited.
1459
01:17:24,578 --> 01:17:26,879
She would just make
the labs so fun.
1460
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,380
I mean, she took something
1461
01:17:28,381 --> 01:17:29,982
that was supposed to be
just a boring written lab
1462
01:17:29,983 --> 01:17:32,317
into something that
was exciting almost.
1463
01:17:32,318 --> 01:17:35,755
- She just could
make anybody laugh.
1464
01:17:35,756 --> 01:17:38,423
She did this voice
that was so funny
1465
01:17:38,424 --> 01:17:41,093
and she would put on
little skits for us.
1466
01:17:41,094 --> 01:17:43,829
She was so good at soccer.
1467
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:46,298
(sullen music)
1468
01:17:46,299 --> 01:17:49,401
- She started playing soccer
since she was three years old
1469
01:17:49,402 --> 01:17:52,137
and she was phenomenal
technically,
1470
01:17:52,138 --> 01:17:54,073
she was an amazing player.
1471
01:17:54,074 --> 01:17:57,577
She was the number eight, she
played the eight position,
1472
01:17:57,578 --> 01:17:59,111
and when you turn
the eight sideways,
1473
01:17:59,112 --> 01:18:01,648
it’s the infinity symbol
which means forever.
1474
01:18:18,031 --> 01:18:19,198
- They used to call her princess
1475
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:20,766
because she was perfect, like, as a person.
1476
01:18:20,767 --> 01:18:22,702
Like there was no flaws about her.
1477
01:18:22,703 --> 01:18:26,439
She has a lot of excitement and
spirit in her.
1478
01:18:28,041 --> 01:18:31,010
- And she wrote really well in
creative writing.
1479
01:18:31,011 --> 01:18:33,378
Like, I always loved to read
her articles
1480
01:18:33,379 --> 01:18:36,448
and things that she would write in class.
1481
01:18:36,449 --> 01:18:39,185
(peaceful music)
1482
01:18:44,457 --> 01:18:48,594
- We’re here because my daughter
has no voice.
1483
01:18:48,595 --> 01:18:51,832
She was murdered last week and she
was taken from us.
1484
01:18:53,033 --> 01:18:55,468
Shot nine times on the third floor.
1485
01:18:59,540 --> 01:19:02,208
We as a country
failed our children.
1486
01:19:03,577 --> 01:19:04,678
This shouldn’t happen.
1487
01:19:05,812 --> 01:19:07,747
We go to the airport,
1488
01:19:07,748 --> 01:19:12,451
I can’t get on a plane with a
bottled water but we leave it,
1489
01:19:12,452 --> 01:19:16,889
some animal could walk into a
school and shoot our children.
1490
01:19:16,890 --> 01:19:21,060
I’m very angry that this happened
’cause it keeps happening.
1491
01:19:21,061 --> 01:19:24,164
9/11 happened once, and
they fixed everything.
1492
01:19:25,632 --> 01:19:28,501
How many schools, how many
children have to get shot?
1493
01:19:28,502 --> 01:19:30,803
Should’ve been one
school shooting
1494
01:19:30,804 --> 01:19:32,138
and we should’ve fixed it!
1495
01:19:35,075 --> 01:19:36,776
And I’m pissed.
1496
01:19:36,777 --> 01:19:39,045
Because my daughter,
I’m not gonna see again.
1497
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,716
She’s not here, she’s not here.
1498
01:19:43,717 --> 01:19:46,385
Never gonna see my kid again, I want
you all to know that.
1499
01:19:46,386 --> 01:19:49,522
Never, ever will I see my kid.
1500
01:19:49,523 --> 01:19:52,205
That’s how, I want it to sink
in, it’s eternity.
1501
01:20:01,602 --> 01:20:03,603
- It’s been 19 years since
Columbine
1502
01:20:03,604 --> 01:20:05,404
and nothing’s been done.
1503
01:20:05,405 --> 01:20:08,841
After 9/11, we hardened
the cockpits
1504
01:20:08,842 --> 01:20:12,011
and we hardened the airports, we
created the TSA.
1505
01:20:12,012 --> 01:20:14,680
After the Oklahoma City bombing,
1506
01:20:14,681 --> 01:20:18,217
we created another agency
to develop standards
1507
01:20:18,218 --> 01:20:20,485
so we could harden
federal buildings.
1508
01:20:20,486 --> 01:20:22,555
We need to harden our schools,
1509
01:20:22,556 --> 01:20:24,223
just like we
hardened our airports
1510
01:20:24,224 --> 01:20:25,625
and our federal buildings.
1511
01:20:25,626 --> 01:20:28,528
That is the way we can
make our schools safe
1512
01:20:28,529 --> 01:20:32,364
so that teachers can teach
and children can learn
1513
01:20:32,365 --> 01:20:35,335
without the fear of dying
in their classrooms.
1514
01:20:36,770 --> 01:20:38,437
- [Charlie] The killer, when
he got to the third floor,
1515
01:20:38,438 --> 01:20:40,573
before he left the
building was trying to fire
1516
01:20:40,574 --> 01:20:43,743
through the windows to
shoot at students fleeing.
1517
01:20:43,744 --> 01:20:45,010
But those windows...
1518
01:20:45,011 --> 01:20:45,845
- Were hurricane proof.
1519
01:20:45,846 --> 01:20:47,379
- [Charlie] Exactly.
1520
01:20:47,380 --> 01:20:49,682
How come the windows in the
classroom doors are not that?
1521
01:20:49,683 --> 01:20:50,684
- Good question.
1522
01:20:51,785 --> 01:20:52,885
It’s not, it’s
not a requirement.
1523
01:20:52,886 --> 01:20:54,486
It’s not a building code.
1524
01:20:54,487 --> 01:20:55,788
We have fire codes.
1525
01:20:55,789 --> 01:20:58,423
Children haven’t died
in a fire since 1958.
1526
01:20:58,424 --> 01:21:02,427
We need national school
safety best practices
1527
01:21:02,428 --> 01:21:05,666
to give guidance to all schools
to make them safe.
1528
01:21:11,972 --> 01:21:15,175
I mean Alex was just a wonderful
little boy.
1529
01:21:16,577 --> 01:21:20,045
He loved to play basketball
and he was in the marching band
1530
01:21:20,046 --> 01:21:22,181
and he was the
little boy that wrote
1531
01:21:22,182 --> 01:21:24,149
the poem Life Is
Like A Rollercoaster
1532
01:21:24,150 --> 01:21:26,586
several weeks before he passed away.
1533
01:21:26,587 --> 01:21:28,921
- We did band together for three years.
1534
01:21:28,922 --> 01:21:30,022
He loved what he did.
1535
01:21:30,023 --> 01:21:31,857
He loved playing the trombone.
1536
01:21:31,858 --> 01:21:35,327
He was always happy and he
always tried to do his best.
1537
01:21:35,328 --> 01:21:37,663
- He was someone that I knew I
could count on
1538
01:21:37,664 --> 01:21:39,098
to be a great team player
1539
01:21:39,099 --> 01:21:41,433
when we did team assignments and
group assignments.
1540
01:21:41,434 --> 01:21:43,235
Just a very sweet gentle soul.
1541
01:21:43,236 --> 01:21:46,672
- One of the highlights
of his high school career
1542
01:21:46,673 --> 01:21:50,009
is when they won the
national championship
1543
01:21:50,010 --> 01:21:51,911
for Stoneman Douglas Marching
Band, The Eagle Regiment
1544
01:21:51,912 --> 01:21:53,179
and that was amazing.
1545
01:21:54,915 --> 01:21:57,417
You know, Alex has been
through a lot of heartache.
1546
01:21:58,484 --> 01:22:00,019
And when he was four years old,
1547
01:22:00,020 --> 01:22:01,954
his mom passed away suddenly,
1548
01:22:01,955 --> 01:22:05,891
and it was then just
Ryan, Alex, and I.
1549
01:22:05,892 --> 01:22:08,662
Several years later, I
met a wonderful woman
1550
01:22:09,596 --> 01:22:11,664
whose husband had passed away,
1551
01:22:11,665 --> 01:22:13,999
we fell in love and you know,
1552
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,103
we decided to move to Parkland
1553
01:22:18,104 --> 01:22:20,940
because, you know, we thought
they had the safest schools
1554
01:22:20,941 --> 01:22:24,409
and the best neighborhood
1555
01:22:24,410 --> 01:22:26,979
and we thought we
would have a good life.
1556
01:22:26,980 --> 01:22:29,414
- [Charlie] Do you remember
your last moment with Alex?
1557
01:22:29,415 --> 01:22:30,416
What that was?
1558
01:22:32,953 --> 01:22:35,721
- Yeah, it was
kissing him goodnight
1559
01:22:35,722 --> 01:22:37,690
and telling him
that I loved him.
1560
01:22:37,691 --> 01:22:38,524
- [Charlie] The night before?
1561
01:22:38,525 --> 01:22:39,992
- Yeah.
1562
01:22:39,993 --> 01:22:41,360
- [Charlie] If you had
one last moment with him,
1563
01:22:41,361 --> 01:22:42,495
what would you tell him?
1564
01:22:44,130 --> 01:22:45,699
- That he was the best boy.
1565
01:23:00,514 --> 01:23:03,917
(bells ringing solemnly)
1566
01:23:06,119 --> 01:23:07,086
- When he heard something
was going down
1567
01:23:07,087 --> 01:23:09,388
that he was, go check it out,
1568
01:23:09,389 --> 01:23:10,623
try and see what he could do to help.
1569
01:23:10,624 --> 01:23:11,824
- [Charlie] Yeah, what does that
say about him?
1570
01:23:11,825 --> 01:23:13,458
That he goes in
there without a gun?
1571
01:23:13,459 --> 01:23:15,094
- It says that’s the
type of man he was.
1572
01:23:15,095 --> 01:23:18,064
He, if he saw a problem,
he tried to fix it
1573
01:23:19,032 --> 01:23:21,802
and did the best he could.
1574
01:23:23,169 --> 01:23:25,739
That’s what he was and that’s
what ended up happening.
1575
01:23:26,907 --> 01:23:29,141
He was a guy that, for
somebody to work for
1576
01:23:29,142 --> 01:23:32,111
and work with, was fantastic.
1577
01:23:32,112 --> 01:23:33,613
- Dedicated isn’t the word for it.
1578
01:23:33,614 --> 01:23:35,681
You would need a better word
than dedicated.
1579
01:23:35,682 --> 01:23:38,718
He was there from seven o’clock
in the morning
1580
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:40,920
to 10 o’clock at night every night.
1581
01:23:40,921 --> 01:23:44,356
- I just remember him being so
passionate about kids
1582
01:23:44,357 --> 01:23:46,659
and just loved what he’s doing.
1583
01:23:46,660 --> 01:23:49,795
So to think that
he just willingly
1584
01:23:49,796 --> 01:23:52,632
ran into the building
and sacrificed his life
1585
01:23:52,633 --> 01:23:54,568
is just unbelievable.
1586
01:24:13,453 --> 01:24:16,557
- But what I saw was a
deputy arrive
1587
01:24:18,224 --> 01:24:20,060
at the west side of building 12,
1588
01:24:21,862 --> 01:24:26,567
take up a position and he never went in.
1589
01:24:28,001 --> 01:24:30,270
Devastated, sick to my stomach.
1590
01:24:32,038 --> 01:24:33,520
There are no words.
1591
01:24:34,908 --> 01:24:38,511
I mean, these families lost their children.
1592
01:24:38,512 --> 01:24:40,079
We lost coaches.
1593
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,847
- [Charlie] The school
resource officer
1594
01:24:41,848 --> 01:24:44,016
who did not go inside,
1595
01:24:44,017 --> 01:24:45,417
a lot has been made about that.
1596
01:24:45,418 --> 01:24:46,620
What’s your take on him?
1597
01:24:49,556 --> 01:24:52,257
- Although, I said like you
don’t know how you’ll react,
1598
01:24:52,258 --> 01:24:54,059
I believe he had an oath.
1599
01:24:54,060 --> 01:24:56,529
He was trained, he should’ve
been trained
1600
01:24:56,530 --> 01:24:58,964
to react in a better way.
1601
01:24:58,965 --> 01:25:00,499
- [Charlie] Do you believe his story?
1602
01:25:00,501 --> 01:25:02,467
That he thought the shots were
coming from outside?
1603
01:25:02,468 --> 01:25:03,936
- No.
1604
01:25:03,937 --> 01:25:07,607
I don’t see how that could
even be a possibility.
1605
01:25:07,608 --> 01:25:09,074
It just.
1606
01:25:09,075 --> 01:25:10,843
There was no one outside.
1607
01:25:10,844 --> 01:25:13,513
No one running outside
at that moment.
1608
01:25:13,514 --> 01:25:14,747
For as long as he was out there,
1609
01:25:14,748 --> 01:25:16,916
he should’ve known by
now that the shooter
1610
01:25:16,917 --> 01:25:18,438
was in the building.
1611
01:25:19,219 --> 01:25:20,219
- [Scot] We also heard he’s over
1612
01:25:20,220 --> 01:25:22,088
by inside the 1200 building.
1613
01:25:23,489 --> 01:25:25,791
We’re locking down the school right now.
1614
01:25:25,792 --> 01:25:28,928
No, do not approach the 12 or
1300 building.
1615
01:25:28,929 --> 01:25:31,451
Stay at least 500 feet away at this point.
1616
01:25:32,599 --> 01:25:35,241
- [Dispatcher] Stay away from 12
and 1300 building.
1617
01:25:36,469 --> 01:25:39,304
- I do think if he would’ve
came in,
1618
01:25:39,305 --> 01:25:40,806
a lot of lives would’ve
been saved
1619
01:25:40,807 --> 01:25:42,441
because he was the only
person on campus
1620
01:25:42,442 --> 01:25:44,143
with another firearm.
1621
01:25:44,144 --> 01:25:46,647
- Complete failure, complete coward.
1622
01:25:47,914 --> 01:25:51,351
Your sole job is to engage
the threat
1623
01:25:53,353 --> 01:25:55,121
and you froze.
1624
01:25:56,523 --> 01:25:59,191
- He said he thought the shots
were coming from outside.
1625
01:25:59,192 --> 01:26:03,596
You can clearly his voice on
the tape that says inside 1200.
1626
01:26:03,597 --> 01:26:06,332
And then he goes as far as telling
people to stay away.
1627
01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:08,000
- Right.
- What do you think
1628
01:26:08,001 --> 01:26:09,201
about all that?
1629
01:26:09,202 --> 01:26:10,270
- It’s heartbreaking.
1630
01:26:11,471 --> 01:26:12,938
It’s heartbreaking.
1631
01:26:12,939 --> 01:26:15,876
Don’t you carry the emblem
to serve and protect?
1632
01:26:17,143 --> 01:26:19,244
Isn’t that part of their mantra?
1633
01:26:19,245 --> 01:26:20,713
- [Charlie] The school
resource officer,
1634
01:26:20,714 --> 01:26:24,383
how often do you think about,
had he ran inside,
1635
01:26:24,384 --> 01:26:26,867
perhaps the third floor coulda been spared?
1636
01:26:28,488 --> 01:26:30,890
- I couldn’t have
lived with my son,
1637
01:26:30,891 --> 01:26:32,558
okay, being such a coward.
1638
01:26:32,559 --> 01:26:34,594
I would’ve liked
him to be alive,
1639
01:26:34,595 --> 01:26:36,862
but he couldn’t have lived
with himself being a coward.
1640
01:26:36,863 --> 01:26:38,998
Peterson has to
live with himself.
1641
01:26:38,999 --> 01:26:41,502
(tense music)
1642
01:26:56,817 --> 01:26:58,818
- [Charlie] How do you explain
him saying,
1643
01:26:58,819 --> 01:27:00,553
I thought the shots were coming
from outside,
1644
01:27:00,554 --> 01:27:04,690
and then on the recorded tape, he
says inside 1200?
1645
01:27:04,691 --> 01:27:06,391
And then, why did he tell people
1646
01:27:06,392 --> 01:27:09,094
to stay away from that building?
1647
01:27:09,095 --> 01:27:11,664
- He seems to identify
the 1200 building
1648
01:27:11,665 --> 01:27:14,299
as a building where
shots are being fired.
1649
01:27:14,300 --> 01:27:18,170
So, you know, I can’t explain
his statements after the fact,
1650
01:27:18,171 --> 01:27:20,640
but ordering
deputies to stay away
1651
01:27:20,641 --> 01:27:21,974
from the site of
an active shooting,
1652
01:27:21,975 --> 01:27:24,544
that just goes against
all the training
1653
01:27:24,545 --> 01:27:27,246
that’s been offered to
law enforcement officers
1654
01:27:27,247 --> 01:27:29,214
since the Columbine shooting.
1655
01:27:29,215 --> 01:27:32,552
- So after Columbine, the policy changed?
1656
01:27:32,553 --> 01:27:35,187
Law enforcement’s policy was you
gotta go in there
1657
01:27:35,188 --> 01:27:36,956
and get the active shooter.
1658
01:27:36,957 --> 01:27:40,159
The term is the immediate action
rapid deployment.
1659
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,027
How come that’s
not being followed?
1660
01:27:42,028 --> 01:27:43,629
- That’s a great question,
1661
01:27:43,630 --> 01:27:45,598
but certainly the
best practice now
1662
01:27:45,599 --> 01:27:47,867
is, you know, an
officer who shows up
1663
01:27:47,868 --> 01:27:49,735
and encounters an
active shooter,
1664
01:27:49,736 --> 01:27:51,871
you know, with a
rifle or a handgun
1665
01:27:51,872 --> 01:27:54,607
does not have time to wait
for specialized personnel
1666
01:27:54,608 --> 01:27:56,041
like SWAT to show up.
1667
01:27:56,042 --> 01:27:58,911
They have to go in,
confront the shooter,
1668
01:27:58,912 --> 01:28:02,015
and try and start providing first aid
as soon as possible.
1669
01:28:07,688 --> 01:28:08,988
- Well, the response
certainly seems
1670
01:28:08,989 --> 01:28:10,690
to have been
troubled all the way
1671
01:28:10,691 --> 01:28:13,659
from the individual
school resource officer,
1672
01:28:13,660 --> 01:28:15,628
Scot Peterson, who
first responded
1673
01:28:15,629 --> 01:28:18,263
all the way up to
the command level
1674
01:28:18,264 --> 01:28:23,269
of radios failing and
communications breaking down.
1675
01:28:24,437 --> 01:28:28,341
So it was not, I think,
how any police agency
1676
01:28:29,075 --> 01:28:30,009
would want to respond.
1677
01:28:30,010 --> 01:28:31,243
I mean, it’s important to know
1678
01:28:31,244 --> 01:28:34,046
these are extremely
chaotic situations
1679
01:28:34,047 --> 01:28:36,649
and, you know, everything
that can go wrong
1680
01:28:36,650 --> 01:28:38,951
does tend to go
wrong but, you know,
1681
01:28:38,952 --> 01:28:41,320
I don’t think
anyone was satisfied
1682
01:28:41,321 --> 01:28:45,290
with the way that
BSO in particular,
1683
01:28:45,291 --> 01:28:46,859
the Broward Sheriff’s
Office responded.
1684
01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:48,493
A lot of questions
have been raised
1685
01:28:48,494 --> 01:28:51,364
about how well prepared
the police were.
1686
01:28:52,833 --> 01:28:55,267
- [Charlie] When did police
first go into the building?
1687
01:28:55,268 --> 01:28:57,069
- [Nicholas] They
went in 11 minutes
1688
01:28:57,070 --> 01:28:58,905
after the shooting began.
1689
01:29:00,073 --> 01:29:01,974
- [Charlie] So roughly
four to five minutes
1690
01:29:01,975 --> 01:29:03,242
after the shooter had left?
1691
01:29:03,243 --> 01:29:04,610
- After the shooter
had stopped shooting
1692
01:29:04,611 --> 01:29:05,911
and left, that’s correct.
1693
01:29:05,912 --> 01:29:07,847
- [Charlie] When
did SWAT arrive?
1694
01:29:07,848 --> 01:29:09,281
- That’s a great question.
1695
01:29:09,282 --> 01:29:10,550
And that’s not something
1696
01:29:10,551 --> 01:29:13,586
we’ve been able to establish exactly.
1697
01:29:13,587 --> 01:29:16,589
The timeline on when SWAT
arrived is hazy
1698
01:29:16,590 --> 01:29:18,257
and it’s really important
1699
01:29:18,258 --> 01:29:21,360
because the specially
trained teams of medics,
1700
01:29:21,361 --> 01:29:24,697
the rescue task force that
partners with police officers,
1701
01:29:24,698 --> 01:29:26,198
was not allowed to
go into the building
1702
01:29:26,199 --> 01:29:28,233
and start providing first aid.
1703
01:29:28,234 --> 01:29:31,270
The Coral Springs
fire chief in charge
1704
01:29:31,271 --> 01:29:34,239
of the rescue task forces
was outraged by that decision
1705
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,510
and wrote in his report
that he begged the captain
1706
01:29:37,511 --> 01:29:40,780
to let him send in the
rescue task force teams.
1707
01:29:40,781 --> 01:29:44,183
She said no because the SWAT
medics were already in there.
1708
01:29:44,184 --> 01:29:47,520
So it’s important, really
important for us to establish
1709
01:29:47,521 --> 01:29:49,088
when the SWAT
medics got in there
1710
01:29:49,089 --> 01:29:52,692
because if they got there
after the Coral Springs medics
1711
01:29:52,693 --> 01:29:54,159
were available to go in,
1712
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,095
that, again, seems like
time that could’ve been used
1713
01:29:56,096 --> 01:29:57,563
to provide treatment.
1714
01:29:57,564 --> 01:29:58,798
- [Charlie] Now we all
know every second counts,
1715
01:29:58,799 --> 01:30:00,232
you can bleed out
in two minutes.
1716
01:30:00,233 --> 01:30:02,702
Do you think had they
gotten in there right away,
1717
01:30:02,703 --> 01:30:04,003
more lives could’ve been saved?
1718
01:30:04,004 --> 01:30:06,005
- Without seeing
the autopsy reports,
1719
01:30:06,006 --> 01:30:08,808
that’s, you know, impossible
to say definitively
1720
01:30:08,809 --> 01:30:10,375
and certainly, lives were saved,
1721
01:30:10,376 --> 01:30:13,113
but I do know that the
parents certainly feel
1722
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,816
that first aid could’ve
been performed sooner
1723
01:30:16,817 --> 01:30:18,250
and that if the officers
1724
01:30:18,251 --> 01:30:20,152
had made it into the building
sooner,
1725
01:30:20,153 --> 01:30:21,854
especially Deputy Peterson,
1726
01:30:21,855 --> 01:30:23,623
that the killer would not
have been able
1727
01:30:23,624 --> 01:30:25,385
to make it to the third floor.
1728
01:30:26,459 --> 01:30:28,962
(tense music)
1729
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,852
- The red flags, the FBI
apologized for their carelessness.
1730
01:30:53,887 --> 01:30:56,155
Broward County Sheriff’s
Office, once again,
1731
01:30:56,156 --> 01:30:57,390
a big target on that.
1732
01:30:58,725 --> 01:31:00,459
How in the world
did they miss it?
1733
01:31:00,460 --> 01:31:01,694
- That’s a great question
1734
01:31:01,695 --> 01:31:02,828
and that’s something
that the parents,
1735
01:31:02,829 --> 01:31:04,697
I think, and the
children and the victims
1736
01:31:04,698 --> 01:31:06,498
are asking themselves every day.
1737
01:31:06,499 --> 01:31:09,468
I mean, not only was
it reported to the FBI,
1738
01:31:09,469 --> 01:31:11,504
not only was his
behavior reported to BSO,
1739
01:31:11,505 --> 01:31:14,574
it was also brought to the
attention of the school
1740
01:31:14,575 --> 01:31:16,542
that he was abusive to a woman,
1741
01:31:16,543 --> 01:31:19,679
that he hurt animals,
got into fights,
1742
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,382
that he used racial slurs
and Nazi propaganda.
1743
01:31:23,383 --> 01:31:25,685
- [Charlie] ’Cause he
pretty much put himself
1744
01:31:25,686 --> 01:31:27,853
on a milk carton saying,
I’m gonna do this.
1745
01:31:27,854 --> 01:31:30,489
- He did, I mean, he
commented on YouTube videos.
1746
01:31:30,490 --> 01:31:32,858
I mean, now it is difficult,
1747
01:31:32,859 --> 01:31:34,226
you know, how do you
know when someone
1748
01:31:34,227 --> 01:31:37,597
is gonna move from
threat to action?
1749
01:31:37,598 --> 01:31:39,498
But clearly, I mean,
there should’ve been
1750
01:31:39,499 --> 01:31:41,466
some kind of risk
assessment done with him.
1751
01:31:41,467 --> 01:31:44,604
Someone should’ve sat down
and said, we’re watching you.
1752
01:31:44,605 --> 01:31:46,171
You know, we’re
concerned about you.
1753
01:31:46,172 --> 01:31:47,139
Of course, they couldn’t have
1754
01:31:47,140 --> 01:31:48,641
taken away his guns at the time
1755
01:31:48,642 --> 01:31:52,978
because there was no fire
arm restraining order,
1756
01:31:52,979 --> 01:31:54,681
that was passed after the fact.
1757
01:32:04,424 --> 01:32:06,726
- [Charlie] Tell us about Scott.
1758
01:32:06,727 --> 01:32:07,728
- Scott.
1759
01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:11,231
He was a very unique person.
1760
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:14,801
He was very humble.
1761
01:32:16,169 --> 01:32:18,470
He was not somebody that
wanted the limelight ever
1762
01:32:18,471 --> 01:32:23,042
and had, I would say,
one of the most amazing
1763
01:32:23,043 --> 01:32:26,979
but dry senses of humor that
I’ve ever met in my life.
1764
01:32:26,980 --> 01:32:29,348
After absorbing
what was going on,
1765
01:32:29,349 --> 01:32:31,116
he would always
have some comment
1766
01:32:31,117 --> 01:32:35,688
or something kinda witty
that only Scott could say.
1767
01:32:35,689 --> 01:32:37,156
He always said some
shocking statement
1768
01:32:37,157 --> 01:32:39,759
that you would say, I can’t
believe the guy just said that.
1769
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,294
- When people comment
and say to me,
1770
01:32:42,295 --> 01:32:44,630
oh, he’s such a hero that day.
1771
01:32:44,631 --> 01:32:46,999
He was, no question about it.
1772
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,770
But he was a hero on the 13th
and the 12th and the 11th
1773
01:32:52,138 --> 01:32:57,143
because his whole being was
to have an impact on kids.
1774
01:32:58,712 --> 01:33:00,580
- If he saw a little
kid in a grocery store,
1775
01:33:00,581 --> 01:33:03,448
you know, really walking
down the aisle with his mom,
1776
01:33:03,449 --> 01:33:05,518
really upset, Scott
would bend down and go,
1777
01:33:05,519 --> 01:33:08,020
is it really that bad today?
1778
01:33:08,021 --> 01:33:09,254
You wanna talk about it?
1779
01:33:09,255 --> 01:33:14,160
You know, or if he
saw someone in camp
1780
01:33:15,028 --> 01:33:17,229
maybe not part of the fold,
1781
01:33:17,230 --> 01:33:18,864
the popular group
who’d been in camp,
1782
01:33:18,865 --> 01:33:21,133
he’d take that camper aside,
1783
01:33:21,134 --> 01:33:24,870
you know, and he’d say,
you wanna tell me about it?
1784
01:33:24,871 --> 01:33:26,872
What is it that you like best?
1785
01:33:26,873 --> 01:33:28,141
Let’s see what we can do.
1786
01:33:30,076 --> 01:33:32,311
He would do his lesson plans,
1787
01:33:32,312 --> 01:33:35,615
he’d share with me and he’d say,
1788
01:33:35,616 --> 01:33:36,616
so what do you think
about this, Mom?
1789
01:33:36,617 --> 01:33:38,150
What do you think about that?
1790
01:33:38,151 --> 01:33:39,519
What do you think I could do
to enhance this lesson plan
1791
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,561
or to make it better?
1792
01:33:41,722 --> 01:33:43,322
- An elderly woman
came over to us
1793
01:33:43,323 --> 01:33:48,193
and said, I never met
your son but I love him.
1794
01:33:48,194 --> 01:33:49,530
Okay, you got my curiosity.
1795
01:33:50,664 --> 01:33:53,232
Her grand-daughter
was in Scott’s class.
1796
01:33:53,233 --> 01:33:54,467
Scott taught geography.
1797
01:33:55,936 --> 01:33:59,539
So the assignment he gave
was not to look at a book
1798
01:33:59,540 --> 01:34:02,174
and pick out the different
countries and their capitals
1799
01:34:02,175 --> 01:34:03,643
and all that nonsense,
1800
01:34:03,644 --> 01:34:05,444
he said to this girl, he said,
1801
01:34:05,445 --> 01:34:08,347
find someone who wasn’t
born in this country
1802
01:34:08,348 --> 01:34:09,549
and talk to them.
1803
01:34:09,550 --> 01:34:12,484
Find out what it was
like where they grew up.
1804
01:34:12,485 --> 01:34:15,055
It turns out that
was the grandmother
1805
01:34:16,156 --> 01:34:17,289
and the grandmother said
1806
01:34:17,290 --> 01:34:19,491
that they had a
three-hour conversation
1807
01:34:19,492 --> 01:34:23,162
where they had hardly spoken
at all for years before that
1808
01:34:23,163 --> 01:34:25,698
and they talk to each
other almost every day.
1809
01:34:25,699 --> 01:34:27,199
That’s the impact.
1810
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,803
(solemn music)
1811
01:34:42,949 --> 01:34:44,183
- It’s funny.
1812
01:34:44,184 --> 01:34:48,521
I remember, I remember the rabbi
saying to me.
1813
01:34:48,522 --> 01:34:50,656
You know, when we went
down that awful day
1814
01:34:50,657 --> 01:34:53,626
and when you go down
and talk to the rabbi.
1815
01:34:53,627 --> 01:34:54,860
I remember the
rabbi saying to me,
1816
01:34:54,861 --> 01:34:56,729
how many people do you
think we’re gonna have?
1817
01:34:56,730 --> 01:34:58,430
And I said, I don’t know,
Rabbi, maybe a hundred people.
1818
01:34:58,431 --> 01:35:01,433
And he looked at me and
he said, really, Linda?
1819
01:35:01,434 --> 01:35:05,438
I said, Rabbi Greg, I don’t
know, a hundred people.
1820
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,307
And I was shocked.
1821
01:35:08,308 --> 01:35:13,313
Not shocked once I understood
how Scott reached people
1822
01:35:14,447 --> 01:35:17,983
and how people, you
know, responded to him,
1823
01:35:17,984 --> 01:35:21,854
but I just never thought that
I was gonna have a funeral
1824
01:35:21,855 --> 01:35:25,691
with a thousand people and
I had to stream it live.
1825
01:35:25,692 --> 01:35:30,697
I had half a million people
stream live Scott’s funeral.
1826
01:35:31,865 --> 01:35:33,065
- Tried to make a
joke at the funeral
1827
01:35:33,066 --> 01:35:34,567
where if he was looking
down at the funeral
1828
01:35:34,568 --> 01:35:36,803
he would think what are
all those people here for?
1829
01:35:38,238 --> 01:35:40,139
And someone would tell him,
oh, it’s for your funeral.
1830
01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:41,741
You should know they’re
all here for the food
1831
01:35:41,742 --> 01:35:44,210
because that’s the type
of sense of humor he had.
1832
01:35:48,715 --> 01:35:52,451
- If Scott came back and
I had a moment with him,
1833
01:35:52,452 --> 01:35:57,457
I would say to him, I
hope that at this moment
1834
01:35:58,659 --> 01:36:01,326
you can honestly open
your eyes and realize
1835
01:36:01,327 --> 01:36:06,165
how important you were
to so many people.
1836
01:36:06,166 --> 01:36:07,167
I love you.
1837
01:36:08,434 --> 01:36:10,302
I love being your mom,
1838
01:36:10,303 --> 01:36:13,539
through the good times
and the bad times.
1839
01:36:13,540 --> 01:36:15,040
You need to look in the mirror
1840
01:36:15,041 --> 01:36:18,879
and you need to see how
special you really are.
1841
01:36:33,293 --> 01:36:35,896
(solemn music)
1842
01:36:37,831 --> 01:36:40,734
- Jaime was a very
interesting kid.
1843
01:36:41,768 --> 01:36:44,036
Had an amazing smile.
1844
01:36:44,037 --> 01:36:46,471
That’s the biggest thing
that I can remember from her.
1845
01:36:46,472 --> 01:36:48,107
You could read her very easily
1846
01:36:48,108 --> 01:36:51,210
’cause her face, she didn’t
have much of a poker face.
1847
01:36:51,211 --> 01:36:53,345
- I danced with
Jaime for some time
1848
01:36:53,346 --> 01:36:56,816
and I just remember at dance,
she would always be laughing
1849
01:36:56,817 --> 01:37:00,920
and she would just be
having the greatest time
1850
01:37:00,921 --> 01:37:03,723
and she was such an amazing dancer.
1851
01:37:03,724 --> 01:37:05,526
She just really loved to dance.
1852
01:37:06,893 --> 01:37:10,830
- Back in October, I lost my
brother to cancer
1853
01:37:10,831 --> 01:37:12,432
from his service in 9/11.
1854
01:37:13,534 --> 01:37:16,836
That, at the time, seemed impossible to me.
1855
01:37:16,837 --> 01:37:18,278
It made no sense.
1856
01:37:19,940 --> 01:37:21,641
It couldn’t happen.
1857
01:37:21,642 --> 01:37:23,576
And it couldn’t get worse.
1858
01:37:23,577 --> 01:37:25,077
This is worse.
1859
01:37:25,078 --> 01:37:26,011
This.
1860
01:37:26,012 --> 01:37:27,046
This is.
1861
01:37:27,047 --> 01:37:28,447
Makes no sense.
1862
01:37:28,448 --> 01:37:30,315
This is impossible.
1863
01:37:30,316 --> 01:37:31,784
My girl.
1864
01:37:31,785 --> 01:37:36,523
My 14-year-old baby and for
those of you who know my Jaime,
1865
01:37:37,490 --> 01:37:39,058
she was the life of the party.
1866
01:37:39,059 --> 01:37:41,493
She was the energy in the room,
1867
01:37:41,494 --> 01:37:46,499
she made people laugh and yes,
sometimes she made us cry,
1868
01:37:47,367 --> 01:37:49,101
but she was always known.
1869
01:37:49,102 --> 01:37:51,171
She always made
her presence felt.
1870
01:37:54,608 --> 01:37:57,077
I sent her to school yesterday.
1871
01:37:59,345 --> 01:38:00,814
She was supposed to be safe.
1872
01:38:02,415 --> 01:38:05,285
My job is to protect my children
1873
01:38:06,286 --> 01:38:08,354
and I sent my kid to school.
1874
01:38:10,857 --> 01:38:15,060
In the morning, sometimes
things get so crazy,
1875
01:38:15,061 --> 01:38:19,499
she runs out behind and she’s
like, I gotta go, Dad, bye.
1876
01:38:20,667 --> 01:38:23,236
And I don’t always get
to say, I love you.
1877
01:38:24,638 --> 01:38:28,141
I don’t remember if I said that
to Jaime yesterday morning.
1878
01:38:29,275 --> 01:38:31,611
I love everyone out here,
1879
01:38:31,612 --> 01:38:34,781
I thank you all for your
outpouring of support.
1880
01:38:37,183 --> 01:38:41,687
Parents, love your kids, hold
your kids, kiss your kids,
1881
01:38:41,688 --> 01:38:44,423
and don’t ever,
ever miss the chance
1882
01:38:44,424 --> 01:38:46,226
to tell them how
much you love them.
1883
01:39:00,841 --> 01:39:03,408
- Alaina was very beautiful
and graceful
1884
01:39:03,409 --> 01:39:05,077
in everything that she did.
1885
01:39:05,078 --> 01:39:08,313
Being an English teacher I
get to read
1886
01:39:08,314 --> 01:39:10,149
a little bit more personal
about the students.
1887
01:39:10,150 --> 01:39:13,252
She wrote about her family
1888
01:39:13,253 --> 01:39:16,221
and how she got along
with her siblings
1889
01:39:16,222 --> 01:39:19,224
and you could see her sense of
humor in there.
1890
01:39:19,225 --> 01:39:21,861
- I worked with her on a
project one time
1891
01:39:21,862 --> 01:39:24,930
and she was just the sweetest thing.
1892
01:39:24,931 --> 01:39:27,499
She always, she tried
to make conversation.
1893
01:39:27,501 --> 01:39:30,435
- Alaina was in the
ROTC, they were involved,
1894
01:39:30,436 --> 01:39:34,139
they were active and for
freshman, that shows a lot.
1895
01:39:34,140 --> 01:39:35,641
That shows a lot
about their character
1896
01:39:35,642 --> 01:39:37,944
and how strong they were
and just confident people.
1897
01:39:52,425 --> 01:39:54,293
(solemn music)
1898
01:39:54,294 --> 01:39:57,630
- He had a heart of gold and
he was so proud
1899
01:39:57,631 --> 01:40:00,299
because he worked very hard towards
his swimming goals
1900
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:02,868
and he was just a very bright
spot of the day.
1901
01:40:02,869 --> 01:40:04,904
He just really was a bright kid
1902
01:40:04,905 --> 01:40:07,940
and very interested in
learning about the Holocaust
1903
01:40:07,941 --> 01:40:10,275
and very proud that he
had reached that goal
1904
01:40:10,276 --> 01:40:12,477
where he signed with Indiana.
1905
01:40:12,478 --> 01:40:14,346
- Nick was one of class clowns.
1906
01:40:14,347 --> 01:40:17,216
He was always making jokes,
he was so funny,
1907
01:40:17,217 --> 01:40:20,654
and I knew he aspired to be
something big one day.
1908
01:40:26,627 --> 01:40:27,860
He planned to join the Olympics.
1909
01:40:27,861 --> 01:40:30,162
The first thing, when a girl
next to me asked,
1910
01:40:30,163 --> 01:40:33,633
who was hit next to
us, I said, Nick,
1911
01:40:33,634 --> 01:40:36,001
and she said, he wanted
to go to the Olympics.
1912
01:40:36,002 --> 01:40:37,537
He’s supposed to
go to the Olympics,
1913
01:40:37,538 --> 01:40:39,372
and that stayed
with me ever since.
1914
01:40:40,507 --> 01:40:43,776
(people chattering)
1915
01:40:43,777 --> 01:40:45,277
- [Announcer] Lane
one, air riser,
1916
01:40:45,278 --> 01:40:47,514
lane two, under lane three.
1917
01:40:49,015 --> 01:40:50,282
(woman whistles)
1918
01:40:50,283 --> 01:40:51,551
- Come on, Charlie!
- Come on!
1919
01:40:51,552 --> 01:40:53,085
Go!
1920
01:40:53,086 --> 01:40:56,055
- [Announcer] Lane six, methods
work, lane seven.
1921
01:40:56,056 --> 01:41:00,960
(announcer drowned out by
crowd cheering)
1922
01:41:00,961 --> 01:41:03,229
- [Woman] Come on, Charlie!
1923
01:41:04,164 --> 01:41:07,332
(crowd cheering)
1924
01:41:07,333 --> 01:41:08,367
- [Man] Come on, Nick!
1925
01:41:08,368 --> 01:41:09,569
- [Woman] Come on, Nick!
1926
01:41:09,570 --> 01:41:11,071
- [Woman] Charlie!
1927
01:41:12,338 --> 01:41:13,438
- [Woman] Go!
1928
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:16,676
(crowd cheering)
1929
01:41:16,677 --> 01:41:17,678
Go, go, go!
1930
01:41:19,345 --> 01:41:21,515
Come on, Nick, go, go, go!
1931
01:41:24,885 --> 01:41:27,888
(observer whistles)
1932
01:41:28,822 --> 01:41:29,655
- [Man] Woo!
1933
01:41:29,656 --> 01:41:32,593
(crowd applauding)
1934
01:41:41,535 --> 01:41:44,336
(solemn music)
1935
01:41:44,337 --> 01:41:46,138
- Helena, beautiful young lady.
1936
01:41:46,139 --> 01:41:48,240
Also comes from an amazing family.
1937
01:41:48,241 --> 01:41:51,777
She’s British, she was very proud of
her British heritage.
1938
01:41:51,778 --> 01:41:53,813
She traveled with us to London,
actually,
1939
01:41:53,814 --> 01:41:56,982
my husband and I, when we
chaperoned a dozen girls.
1940
01:41:56,983 --> 01:41:59,619
She had a great outlook on life.
1941
01:41:59,620 --> 01:42:01,621
- She brought us to our first concert.
1942
01:42:01,622 --> 01:42:03,789
Like Justin Bieber and we had so much fun.
1943
01:42:03,790 --> 01:42:05,891
That was my first concert I’ve
ever been to.
1944
01:42:05,892 --> 01:42:08,393
- She was my best friend.
1945
01:42:08,394 --> 01:42:12,565
She just cared about you, she remembered
tiniest details.
1946
01:42:12,566 --> 01:42:15,768
I remember telling her I like
fuzzy socks
1947
01:42:15,769 --> 01:42:19,371
and then for my birthday, she got me
a pair of fuzzy socks
1948
01:42:19,372 --> 01:42:22,441
and it was just, like, a tiny
detail and she remembered it.
1949
01:42:22,442 --> 01:42:25,310
And I remember taking,
she came to church with me
1950
01:42:25,311 --> 01:42:27,246
two months consecutively.
1951
01:42:27,247 --> 01:42:29,381
So, I’m actually kind
of grateful for that
1952
01:42:29,382 --> 01:42:30,650
’cause I had to
spend time with her
1953
01:42:30,651 --> 01:42:33,519
and I also showed her
a big part of my life
1954
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:34,988
and what it means to me.
1955
01:42:46,733 --> 01:42:50,070
(bell ringing solemnly)
1956
01:42:51,204 --> 01:42:54,106
- He decided that he wanted
to play football
1957
01:42:54,107 --> 01:42:57,943
and one of the stories that I can
tell you about Luke
1958
01:42:57,944 --> 01:43:00,279
is I shared a portable,
1959
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,115
our classroom was
the same shared space
1960
01:43:03,116 --> 01:43:04,349
with our football coach,
1961
01:43:04,350 --> 01:43:07,386
who would make coffee
in the morning,
1962
01:43:07,387 --> 01:43:09,855
and I had Luke’s class
first thing in the morning.
1963
01:43:09,856 --> 01:43:14,861
So, Coach May’s coffee was
ready and I went up to,
1964
01:43:15,996 --> 01:43:16,996
the students were
doing a group project
1965
01:43:16,997 --> 01:43:19,231
and I asked the boys there,
1966
01:43:19,232 --> 01:43:20,700
do any of you guys
play football?
1967
01:43:20,701 --> 01:43:22,201
And they all said,
1968
01:43:22,202 --> 01:43:23,903
well Luke’s gonna go out for
spring football this year.
1969
01:43:23,904 --> 01:43:25,337
So I said, Luke,
come on with me.
1970
01:43:25,338 --> 01:43:28,340
I said, I need you to go deliver
Coach May’s coffee to him
1971
01:43:28,341 --> 01:43:30,375
and so he’ll get
to know who you are
1972
01:43:30,376 --> 01:43:32,444
and you’ll get some,
you know, brownie points
1973
01:43:32,445 --> 01:43:33,946
that you’re bringing him coffee
1974
01:43:33,947 --> 01:43:36,315
and he’ll know who you
are for spring football.
1975
01:43:36,316 --> 01:43:38,819
And so when he came back
to the portable and,
1976
01:43:41,187 --> 01:43:43,623
he had a smile from ear to ear
and I asked him, I said Luke,
1977
01:43:43,624 --> 01:43:45,257
does Coach May know
who you are now?
1978
01:43:45,258 --> 01:43:46,526
And he says, yup.
1979
01:43:46,527 --> 01:43:50,763
And so that was just
really heartwarming
1980
01:43:50,764 --> 01:43:53,834
and something that
I’ll never forget.
1981
01:43:55,101 --> 01:43:57,469
- I remember we used to
joke around
1982
01:43:57,470 --> 01:44:00,506
and try to draw each other.
1983
01:44:00,507 --> 01:44:02,474
I would always draw
his big curly hair
1984
01:44:02,475 --> 01:44:06,278
and his red cheeks and he
was really funny about it
1985
01:44:06,279 --> 01:44:08,781
and ripped it up and then
taped it back together
1986
01:44:08,782 --> 01:44:10,916
’cause he didn’t wanna
hurt my feelings.
1987
01:44:10,917 --> 01:44:13,520
(sullen music)
1988
01:44:19,059 --> 01:44:21,628
(sullen music)
1989
01:44:23,363 --> 01:44:25,798
- I didn’t know that he was one
of the victims
1990
01:44:25,799 --> 01:44:27,166
until the next day,
1991
01:44:27,167 --> 01:44:30,536
and I was in the living room
watching the TV
1992
01:44:30,537 --> 01:44:34,807
and when the names and the
pictures started to scroll,
1993
01:44:34,808 --> 01:44:37,109
I just screamed when I saw him
1994
01:44:37,110 --> 01:44:42,115
because it just, it
just wasn’t fair.
1995
01:44:43,316 --> 01:44:45,618
His family came from Mexico,
1996
01:44:45,619 --> 01:44:48,287
he really wanted
to have a career,
1997
01:44:48,288 --> 01:44:51,857
he wanted to change
his parents’ lives.
1998
01:44:51,858 --> 01:44:53,159
He wanted to help them.
1999
01:44:57,964 --> 01:45:01,133
- He would go out of his way
to make sure that I was okay
2000
01:45:01,134 --> 01:45:02,802
and that I was
having a good day.
2001
01:45:02,803 --> 01:45:06,206
He would ask me how my day
was, he would give me a hug.
2002
01:45:15,916 --> 01:45:17,783
- I still think about if I
opened the door,
2003
01:45:17,784 --> 01:45:20,252
if they were still here.
2004
01:45:20,253 --> 01:45:21,887
It’s something that really
gets to me
2005
01:45:21,888 --> 01:45:24,824
because they were two of my
close friends
2006
01:45:24,825 --> 01:45:28,227
and I think that if I got
to the door fast enough
2007
01:45:28,228 --> 01:45:30,195
they would still be here.
2008
01:45:30,196 --> 01:45:32,898
And so many people have told
me, no, you can’t do that.
2009
01:45:32,899 --> 01:45:36,469
It’s not your fault, but
sometimes I think it is.
2010
01:45:51,451 --> 01:45:54,554
(bell ringing solemnly)
2011
01:45:54,555 --> 01:45:56,488
- If you looked at her, you
would’ve never thought
2012
01:45:56,489 --> 01:45:58,624
anything bad could’ve happened to her.
2013
01:45:58,625 --> 01:46:01,147
She did not have one bad bone in her body.
2014
01:46:03,564 --> 01:46:05,965
- Cara and I were in
Girl Scouts together
2015
01:46:05,966 --> 01:46:07,533
when we were five years old.
2016
01:46:07,534 --> 01:46:10,503
Then I moved to a different
house
2017
01:46:10,504 --> 01:46:12,237
and I didn’t do Girl Scouts
anymore
2018
01:46:12,238 --> 01:46:16,375
and then it was about a couple
months before the shooting
2019
01:46:16,376 --> 01:46:18,578
when she came up to me,
she’s like, you’re Lea.
2020
01:46:18,579 --> 01:46:19,845
And I was like, yeah.
2021
01:46:19,846 --> 01:46:21,947
And she’s like, we went
to Girl Scouts together,
2022
01:46:21,948 --> 01:46:23,448
and I was like, oh my gosh.
2023
01:46:23,449 --> 01:46:25,417
And she sent me a picture, she
had pictures of us together
2024
01:46:25,418 --> 01:46:27,119
and we were just getting
to know each other,
2025
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,989
and that day, I actually
ate lunch with her.
2026
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:32,224
It was me and my friend and Cara
2027
01:46:32,225 --> 01:46:34,594
and it was just the
three of us and like...
2028
01:46:34,595 --> 01:46:36,061
- [Charlie] That very day?
2029
01:46:36,062 --> 01:46:38,497
- That very day, right before
we went to fourth period.
2030
01:46:38,498 --> 01:46:43,168
I walked to her,
to class and yeah.
2031
01:46:43,169 --> 01:46:44,170
Last I saw her.
2032
01:46:55,215 --> 01:46:57,818
(somber music)
2033
01:46:59,986 --> 01:47:01,486
- He loved Stoneman Douglas,
2034
01:47:01,487 --> 01:47:04,423
he loved all the kids, he always
gave people rides
2035
01:47:04,424 --> 01:47:06,859
on his golf cart around to
their classrooms.
2036
01:47:06,860 --> 01:47:09,695
- He was honestly another father to me.
2037
01:47:09,696 --> 01:47:12,264
Throughout high school, I made a
few bad choices.
2038
01:47:12,265 --> 01:47:14,266
You know, skipping classes.
2039
01:47:14,267 --> 01:47:17,970
He never did something
to make you feel bad,
2040
01:47:17,971 --> 01:47:20,105
instead he would ask you, why?
2041
01:47:20,106 --> 01:47:21,207
Why did you do it?
2042
01:47:22,576 --> 01:47:24,476
- So the shooter
was in the hallway,
2043
01:47:24,477 --> 01:47:25,678
the first floor hallway
2044
01:47:25,679 --> 01:47:28,080
and so he went in through
the stairwell
2045
01:47:28,081 --> 01:47:29,749
and I think what he was
trying to do
2046
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:33,719
is get a advantage because he could
look into the hallway
2047
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:34,954
from the stairwell.
2048
01:47:34,955 --> 01:47:38,390
But he opened that door
right when the killer
2049
01:47:38,391 --> 01:47:41,961
was on the stairs
directly across from him
2050
01:47:41,962 --> 01:47:44,931
and the killer just
turned and shot him.
2051
01:47:53,874 --> 01:47:56,843
- He died doing the
thing he loved to do.
2052
01:47:58,478 --> 01:48:00,279
- [Charlie] And that is
look out for the students?
2053
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:01,446
- Being there for the students,
2054
01:48:01,447 --> 01:48:03,349
making sure that they’re safe.
2055
01:48:15,228 --> 01:48:17,496
(sullen music)
2056
01:48:17,497 --> 01:48:18,764
- Peter Wang.
2057
01:48:18,765 --> 01:48:20,232
Well, he was holding the door
open for the other,
2058
01:48:20,233 --> 01:48:22,301
the second group of kids
to come through the door
2059
01:48:22,302 --> 01:48:23,303
when he got hit.
2060
01:48:25,005 --> 01:48:26,606
The kid was 14
2061
01:48:26,607 --> 01:48:29,842
and had the wherewithal to react
to help other people
2062
01:48:29,843 --> 01:48:32,044
before he even worried about himself.
2063
01:48:32,045 --> 01:48:36,916
Peter was a gregarious and
affable young man.
2064
01:48:36,917 --> 01:48:41,253
He talked to everybody, but
only after his work was done.
2065
01:48:41,254 --> 01:48:44,456
- Going into the classroom where
he’s not there anymore,
2066
01:48:44,457 --> 01:48:46,458
it hurt like extremely badly
2067
01:48:46,459 --> 01:48:49,762
’cause it’s like losing a
family member
2068
01:48:49,763 --> 01:48:53,132
and them not being there
is like extremely hard.
2069
01:48:53,133 --> 01:48:56,769
- He was a very talented JROTC
sharpshooter.
2070
01:48:56,770 --> 01:49:00,973
When his cousin first moved here,
he was bullied
2071
01:49:00,974 --> 01:49:02,341
because he didn’t
speak English very well
2072
01:49:02,342 --> 01:49:03,843
’cause he was an immigrant
2073
01:49:03,844 --> 01:49:05,545
and Peter stood up for him, even
though Peter was younger.
2074
01:49:05,546 --> 01:49:08,514
And I wrote in my story that Peter
was a protector.
2075
01:49:08,515 --> 01:49:11,416
From what I heard from everyone,
he was a very brave boy.
2076
01:49:11,417 --> 01:49:14,286
He was very aware
of the underdog,
2077
01:49:14,287 --> 01:49:17,222
he was very aware of
everyone who might be hurt
2078
01:49:17,223 --> 01:49:18,991
and that was the reason
his family and friends
2079
01:49:18,992 --> 01:49:20,359
told me he sought out JROTC.
2080
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:22,327
He really wanted
to protect people.
2081
01:49:22,328 --> 01:49:25,164
So, Peter was posthumously
admitted to West Point,
2082
01:49:25,165 --> 01:49:27,366
which is his dream school
he’d always wanted to get into
2083
01:49:27,367 --> 01:49:28,968
and at his funeral,
he was even presented
2084
01:49:28,969 --> 01:49:32,371
with the Presidential Medal
of Freedom in his casket.
2085
01:49:32,372 --> 01:49:34,306
His mother was able
to give him the award.
2086
01:49:34,307 --> 01:49:36,008
And his funeral was
really well attended
2087
01:49:36,009 --> 01:49:37,543
by veterans from up
and down the coast.
2088
01:49:37,544 --> 01:49:39,645
I talked to people who
drove their motorcycles
2089
01:49:39,646 --> 01:49:41,714
as far away as Virginia
just to be there
2090
01:49:41,715 --> 01:49:43,883
because they felt he
was an American hero
2091
01:49:43,884 --> 01:49:47,319
and he deserved all of
the honor and respect
2092
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:48,789
they could possibly give him.
2093
01:50:02,168 --> 01:50:05,070
- Whenever we had Spirit Week
2094
01:50:05,071 --> 01:50:07,507
and everybody was in the
middle or during lunch,
2095
01:50:07,508 --> 01:50:09,875
playing music, playing games,
2096
01:50:09,876 --> 01:50:12,678
he was the one that was
the most hyped about it.
2097
01:50:12,679 --> 01:50:15,648
He was dancing,
singing, jumping around.
2098
01:50:15,649 --> 01:50:18,918
He really was the life
and spirit of Douglas.
2099
01:50:18,919 --> 01:50:22,021
- Every day just he made me
laugh until my stomach hurt
2100
01:50:22,022 --> 01:50:24,624
and he backed you up
when somebody, you know,
2101
01:50:24,625 --> 01:50:25,925
was being mean to you.
2102
01:50:25,926 --> 01:50:28,328
- I always called him a beautiful soul.
2103
01:50:29,730 --> 01:50:34,333
And the fact that, you know,
he’s gone is,
2104
01:50:34,334 --> 01:50:36,936
it’s a hole in my
life, it really is.
2105
01:50:36,937 --> 01:50:38,303
I wanted to see him graduate
2106
01:50:38,304 --> 01:50:39,739
and I wanted to keep up with him
2107
01:50:39,740 --> 01:50:41,641
and I wanted to
go to his wedding
2108
01:50:41,642 --> 01:50:43,676
and, you know, see his kids.
2109
01:50:43,677 --> 01:50:45,077
’Cause he wrote about that.
2110
01:50:45,078 --> 01:50:46,311
You know, he was
in my writing class
2111
01:50:46,312 --> 01:50:48,180
and he emerged as
this beautiful writer.
2112
01:50:48,181 --> 01:50:49,549
And everyone really liked him.
2113
01:50:49,550 --> 01:50:51,684
Even his enemies loved him.
2114
01:50:51,685 --> 01:50:54,220
(somber music)
2115
01:51:04,965 --> 01:51:09,334
- [Charlie] How has this
whole tragedy changed you?
2116
01:51:09,335 --> 01:51:11,170
- I’ve come to realize
2117
01:51:11,171 --> 01:51:14,006
that you’re not guaranteed
anything forever, you know.
2118
01:51:14,007 --> 01:51:16,976
You have to take
your life day by day
2119
01:51:16,977 --> 01:51:20,412
and tell the people
that you love
2120
01:51:20,413 --> 01:51:23,817
that you love them
’cause you never know.
2121
01:51:25,251 --> 01:51:28,754
- I wake up sometimes in the
morning and I’ve been crying.
2122
01:51:28,755 --> 01:51:30,155
All night.
2123
01:51:30,156 --> 01:51:33,392
And we are definitely changed,
2124
01:51:33,393 --> 01:51:34,960
we’re not the same
people that we were.
2125
01:51:34,961 --> 01:51:36,662
I don’t think I’ll ever,
2126
01:51:36,663 --> 01:51:39,532
ever be the person that
I was before that day.
2127
01:51:39,533 --> 01:51:41,166
- I realize how important it is
2128
01:51:41,167 --> 01:51:44,104
to stay connected
to everyone and
2129
01:51:45,271 --> 01:51:47,807
life’s short and that
you should make it count
2130
01:51:47,808 --> 01:51:51,143
and try to get out more
and spend more time
2131
01:51:51,144 --> 01:51:56,081
with my classmates from
room 1213 and, I guess,
2132
01:51:56,082 --> 01:51:59,652
realize that I should get to know
people more closely.
2133
01:51:59,653 --> 01:52:02,955
- lt’s so hard to think properly
2134
01:52:02,956 --> 01:52:04,356
and straight again.
2135
01:52:04,357 --> 01:52:06,892
And every time I think
by myself,
2136
01:52:06,893 --> 01:52:09,095
I’m having those
flashbacks and I’m thinking
2137
01:52:10,230 --> 01:52:14,701
and I’m seeing this
figure of death.
2138
01:52:18,505 --> 01:52:22,442
There’s more to life, there’s
a reason why I’m still here,
2139
01:52:23,610 --> 01:52:25,812
I have to think
of the positives.
2140
01:52:26,947 --> 01:52:29,516
- We know that Gina
would not want us to be
2141
01:52:33,620 --> 01:52:38,625
totally miserable and
not having a life.
2142
01:52:39,359 --> 01:52:41,460
We just try and move on.
2143
01:52:41,461 --> 01:52:43,764
Try and move through
every day as best we can.
2144
01:52:48,802 --> 01:52:51,103
- I can’t even pretend
to imagine the pain
2145
01:52:51,104 --> 01:52:53,906
that you’re going
through, I just can’t.
2146
01:52:53,907 --> 01:52:56,275
And I think every single day
2147
01:52:56,276 --> 01:52:59,512
and I just feel so
sad all the time,
2148
01:52:59,513 --> 01:53:02,715
but I just want you to know
that I love all 17 of them
2149
01:53:02,716 --> 01:53:04,483
and I will never,
ever forget them.
2150
01:53:04,484 --> 01:53:07,754
They’re in my thoughts every
single day, and so are you.
2151
01:53:09,122 --> 01:53:12,224
- I’m sorry for the
incompetence that occurred
2152
01:53:12,225 --> 01:53:15,761
and the negligence
and the not doing
2153
01:53:15,762 --> 01:53:18,698
what they should have
done prior to all this.
2154
01:53:18,699 --> 01:53:21,901
And all the things
that’s coming out now
2155
01:53:21,902 --> 01:53:24,504
in reference to how this
could’ve been prevented.
2156
01:53:24,505 --> 01:53:25,437
- It shouldn’t have happened.
2157
01:53:25,438 --> 01:53:26,506
You sent them off to school,
2158
01:53:26,507 --> 01:53:28,608
you didn’t send them off to war,
2159
01:53:28,609 --> 01:53:31,276
you didn’t send them
off to a danger zone,
2160
01:53:31,277 --> 01:53:33,478
they went to school.
2161
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:35,480
Who thinks their kid’s
gonna go to school
2162
01:53:35,481 --> 01:53:37,684
and not come home from school?
2163
01:53:57,337 --> 01:54:00,073
(crowd cheering)
2164
01:54:03,777 --> 01:54:06,078
- [Woman] Yes, Emma!
2165
01:54:06,079 --> 01:54:09,348
- Six minutes and about 20 seconds.
2166
01:54:09,349 --> 01:54:11,183
In a little over six minutes,
2167
01:54:11,184 --> 01:54:13,653
17 of our friends were taken
from us,
2168
01:54:13,654 --> 01:54:18,257
15 were injured and everyone,
absolutely everyone,
2169
01:54:18,258 --> 01:54:21,493
in the Douglas community
was forever altered.
2170
01:54:21,494 --> 01:54:24,196
Everyone who was
there understands,
2171
01:54:24,197 --> 01:54:26,031
everyone who has been touched
2172
01:54:26,032 --> 01:54:29,702
by the cold grip of gun
violence understands.
2173
01:54:29,703 --> 01:54:33,305
For us, long tearful,
chaotic hours
2174
01:54:33,306 --> 01:54:37,476
in the scorching afternoon
sun were spent not knowing.
2175
01:54:37,477 --> 01:54:40,646
No one understood the
extent of what had happened.
2176
01:54:40,647 --> 01:54:43,282
No one could believe that there
were bodies in that building
2177
01:54:43,283 --> 01:54:46,485
waiting to be identified
for over a day.
2178
01:54:46,486 --> 01:54:48,888
No one knew that the
people who were missing
2179
01:54:48,889 --> 01:54:50,489
had stopped
breathing long before
2180
01:54:50,490 --> 01:54:54,560
any of us had even known that
a Code Red had been called.
2181
01:54:54,561 --> 01:54:58,631
No one could comprehend
the devastating aftermath
2182
01:54:58,632 --> 01:55:01,935
or how far this would reach
or where this would go.
2183
01:55:04,004 --> 01:55:07,172
We are kids in March for Our Lives.
2184
01:55:07,173 --> 01:55:08,608
We are young people.
2185
01:55:08,609 --> 01:55:11,210
The oldest people in our
organization are 20 years old.
2186
01:55:11,211 --> 01:55:14,914
I’m proud to know that
it’s mainly young people
2187
01:55:14,915 --> 01:55:18,584
who are pushing this but we
have every generation behind us.
2188
01:55:18,585 --> 01:55:19,952
All types of people.
2189
01:55:19,953 --> 01:55:21,320
It’s not just the young people
2190
01:55:21,321 --> 01:55:22,822
but the young
people are the ones
2191
01:55:22,823 --> 01:55:25,490
who are finally stepping up
and finding their voice again.
2192
01:55:25,491 --> 01:55:27,226
Because when young
people get active,
2193
01:55:27,227 --> 01:55:28,694
that’s when mountains get moved.
2194
01:55:28,695 --> 01:55:31,931
Six minutes and 20
seconds with an AR-15
2195
01:55:31,932 --> 01:55:34,834
and my friend, Carmen,
would never complain
2196
01:55:34,835 --> 01:55:37,603
to me about piano practice.
2197
01:55:37,604 --> 01:55:41,574
Aaron Feis would never
call Kira, Miss Sunshine.
2198
01:55:41,575 --> 01:55:43,609
Alex Schachter would never walk
2199
01:55:43,610 --> 01:55:45,678
into school with
his brother, Ryan.
2200
01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:49,515
Scott Beigel would never joke
around with Cameron at camp.
2201
01:55:49,516 --> 01:55:52,852
Helena Ramsay would never hang
out after school with Max.
2202
01:55:52,853 --> 01:55:56,589
Gina Montalto would never wave
to her friend Liam at lunch.
2203
01:55:56,590 --> 01:55:59,124
Joaquin Oliver would
never play basketball
2204
01:55:59,125 --> 01:56:01,060
with Sam or Dylan.
2205
01:56:01,061 --> 01:56:04,363
Alaina Petty would never,
Cara Loughran would never,
2206
01:56:04,364 --> 01:56:07,667
Chris Hixon would never,
Luke Hoyer would never,
2207
01:56:07,668 --> 01:56:11,403
Martin Duque Anguiano would
never, Peter Wang would never,
2208
01:56:11,404 --> 01:56:14,707
Alyssa Alhadeff would never,
Jaime Guttenberg would never,
2209
01:56:14,708 --> 01:56:17,077
Meadow Pollack would never.
2210
01:56:23,016 --> 01:56:24,483
- [Man] Alaina!
2211
01:56:24,484 --> 01:56:27,220
(crowd cheering)
2212
01:56:46,740 --> 01:56:48,574
(crowd applauds)
2213
01:56:48,575 --> 01:56:51,144
(crowd cheers)
2214
01:57:07,894 --> 01:57:10,664
(crowd cheering)
2215
01:57:31,618 --> 01:57:34,387
(crowd cheering)
2216
01:58:12,158 --> 01:58:16,162
- [Crowd] Never again,
never again, never again,
2217
01:58:17,330 --> 01:58:20,266
never again, never
again, never again,
2218
01:58:22,002 --> 01:58:25,171
never again, never
again, never again,
2219
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,810
never again, never
again, never again,
2220
01:58:31,177 --> 01:58:34,347
never again, never
again, never again,
2221
01:58:35,716 --> 01:58:38,885
never again, never
again, never again,
2222
01:58:40,053 --> 01:58:47,060
never again, never
again, never again,
2223
01:58:48,228 --> 01:58:51,097
never again, never
again, never again!
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