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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,540 --> 00:00:02,719 Will: Where's my staff? 2 00:00:02,754 --> 00:00:04,451 We're gonna try Elliot out at 10:00. 3 00:00:04,486 --> 00:00:07,150 He's taking your EP and your EP's taking your staff. 4 00:00:07,270 --> 00:00:09,007 - Wait, you asked to leave? - I did. 5 00:00:09,041 --> 00:00:11,975 - I hired you a new EP. - You're not talking about Mackenzie. 6 00:00:12,010 --> 00:00:14,813 - I had to right the ship. - I tried to get in touch with you 7 00:00:14,847 --> 00:00:16,744 a lot of times in the last three years. 8 00:00:16,779 --> 00:00:18,638 - Did you get all those emails? - I didn't read them. 9 00:00:18,672 --> 00:00:21,573 - James Harper, this is Maggie-- - Margaret Jordan-- Maggie's fine. 10 00:00:21,608 --> 00:00:23,741 I need Don Keefer to help me through this transition. 11 00:00:23,776 --> 00:00:25,745 It turns out Don's dating Maggie. 12 00:00:25,780 --> 00:00:27,381 He's going to be threatened by you, 13 00:00:27,415 --> 00:00:29,482 so he'll try to impress Maggie, who's staying with Will. 14 00:00:29,516 --> 00:00:31,250 - You understand? - ( news alert beeps ) 15 00:00:31,284 --> 00:00:33,084 There's been an explosion off the coast of Louisiana. 16 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:35,022 You've got to ask her why there's no contingency. 17 00:00:35,056 --> 00:00:36,990 Why are we drilling three miles underwater 18 00:00:37,025 --> 00:00:38,592 when we don't have the technology 19 00:00:38,626 --> 00:00:40,160 to fix the world's most predictable emergency? 20 00:00:40,195 --> 00:00:41,762 Good to see you again, Will. 21 00:00:41,797 --> 00:00:43,464 You didn't bring her in to right the ship. 22 00:00:43,498 --> 00:00:46,267 You brought her in to build a new one. 23 00:00:50,540 --> 00:01:00,985 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 24 00:02:24,037 --> 00:02:27,207 ( tools buzzing, banging ) 25 00:02:33,748 --> 00:02:35,883 ( buzzing and banging continue ) 26 00:02:48,264 --> 00:02:51,066 Tess Westin, AP. 27 00:02:52,135 --> 00:02:53,235 Yes. 28 00:02:53,269 --> 00:02:55,037 Gary Cooper. 29 00:02:55,071 --> 00:02:56,939 Can that really be his name? 30 00:02:56,973 --> 00:03:00,343 - Yes. Desk producer. - ( bangs ) 31 00:03:00,377 --> 00:03:03,613 Tamara Hart, AP. 32 00:03:03,647 --> 00:03:05,048 I'm on fire. 33 00:03:05,082 --> 00:03:08,251 ( men shouting ) 34 00:03:10,488 --> 00:03:12,556 New neighbors. 35 00:03:15,260 --> 00:03:16,694 Okay. 36 00:03:30,842 --> 00:03:32,943 - Morning. - Big day. 37 00:03:32,977 --> 00:03:34,244 Can I talk to you a second? 38 00:03:34,278 --> 00:03:37,246 - We've got a rundown meeting. - Yeah. 39 00:03:37,281 --> 00:03:39,181 - They're very young out there. - I know. 40 00:03:39,215 --> 00:03:40,582 But what they lack in experience, 41 00:03:40,616 --> 00:03:42,751 they make up for in inexperience. 42 00:03:42,785 --> 00:03:44,452 - Mac-- - It's an asset. 43 00:03:44,486 --> 00:03:46,620 - They don't know how to do the news badly yet. - Or really at all. 44 00:03:46,655 --> 00:03:48,155 Some of them will be doing things 45 00:03:48,189 --> 00:03:49,756 they haven't done before, but they'll be supervised. 46 00:03:49,790 --> 00:03:51,191 I want to grow these people, 47 00:03:51,225 --> 00:03:52,659 so you're going to go easy on them. 48 00:03:52,693 --> 00:03:53,793 We talked about this last night 49 00:03:53,828 --> 00:03:55,261 and for three hours the night before 50 00:03:55,296 --> 00:03:57,197 and again at 4:00 AM this morning. 51 00:03:57,231 --> 00:03:58,798 And you're sure you don't wanna lead with the spill? 52 00:03:58,832 --> 00:04:01,534 - I am. Is that what you wanted to talk about? - No. 53 00:04:01,568 --> 00:04:04,636 I think most people here know that you and I were together a while ago. 54 00:04:04,671 --> 00:04:06,405 I think so, too. 55 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:08,540 - I don't want anyone to know why we're not together now. - Sure. 56 00:04:08,575 --> 00:04:10,542 - I mean no one. - You think I'm gonna talk about it? 57 00:04:10,577 --> 00:04:12,611 I find it hard to predict what you will and won't do. 58 00:04:12,645 --> 00:04:14,279 - I won't be telling anyone. - As long as we're straight. 59 00:04:14,314 --> 00:04:16,182 - We are. - No one. Nothing. 60 00:04:16,216 --> 00:04:17,717 Just to be clear, you want me 61 00:04:17,752 --> 00:04:20,854 - to tell some people, but not everyone. - Let's go. 62 00:04:20,888 --> 00:04:23,423 You're going to have nine minutes with Jan Brewer, nine minutes with La Raza. 63 00:04:23,458 --> 00:04:25,692 I wanna go on record saying we should open with the spill. 64 00:04:25,727 --> 00:04:27,328 - Done. - We'll open with the spill? 65 00:04:27,362 --> 00:04:29,096 No, but you're on record saying you think we should. 66 00:04:29,131 --> 00:04:30,698 The spill is all anyone's talking about. 67 00:04:30,732 --> 00:04:32,433 Because we're the ones telling them to. 68 00:04:32,467 --> 00:04:34,602 We're still reporting on it, just not at the top. 69 00:04:34,636 --> 00:04:37,372 I'm looking at film of an oil rig sinking into the ocean. 70 00:04:37,406 --> 00:04:38,806 That's pretty good television. 71 00:04:38,841 --> 00:04:42,043 We don't do good television, we do the news. 72 00:04:43,612 --> 00:04:45,113 - Good morning. - All: Good morning. 73 00:04:45,147 --> 00:04:49,317 And welcome to the first pitch meeting of "News Night" 2.0. 74 00:04:49,352 --> 00:04:51,286 The chaos of the spill is settling down 75 00:04:51,354 --> 00:04:53,555 and we get to do our first real show. 76 00:04:53,589 --> 00:04:55,090 11:00, I hear the pitches; 77 00:04:55,124 --> 00:04:57,325 4:00, the show starts to look like the show; 78 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,694 and 6:00, we lock it in. 79 00:04:58,728 --> 00:05:00,095 I learned everyone's names last night. 80 00:05:00,130 --> 00:05:02,164 Mackenzie: A huge step in the right direction. 81 00:05:02,198 --> 00:05:04,433 We'll be opening tonight with SB 1070, 82 00:05:04,468 --> 00:05:06,168 the Arizona immigration bill, 83 00:05:06,203 --> 00:05:07,970 which Will supports, by the way. 84 00:05:08,005 --> 00:05:09,472 You all thought he was a closet liberal 85 00:05:09,506 --> 00:05:10,673 when, really, he's a closet moron. 86 00:05:10,707 --> 00:05:11,774 I'm not a closet anything. 87 00:05:11,809 --> 00:05:13,509 Seriously, I know everyone's name. 88 00:05:13,544 --> 00:05:16,614 I was up half the night learning to pronounce Calanasia Zbrezniak. 89 00:05:16,648 --> 00:05:18,015 Cally doesn't work here anymore. 90 00:05:18,050 --> 00:05:21,285 - Dianastasia Jorma? - Nope. 91 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,454 Mohammed al Mohammed el Mohammed bin Bazir? 92 00:05:23,489 --> 00:05:26,691 - Went to Fox. - Fox hired someone with three Mohammeds in their name? 93 00:05:26,726 --> 00:05:28,660 But let's give him a hand for effort. 94 00:05:28,695 --> 00:05:30,262 Will: Shut up! 95 00:05:30,296 --> 00:05:32,631 - Is your name really Gary Cooper? - Yeah. 96 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:35,434 What is "News Night" 2.0? 97 00:05:35,468 --> 00:05:37,202 - This is-- - Mac, the-- 98 00:05:37,236 --> 00:05:38,837 Right. Thank you. 99 00:05:38,871 --> 00:05:40,939 Before we get to 2.0, I'm supposed to read 100 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:43,575 something from IT and I don't want to forget. 101 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:46,611 "New aliases have been set up for in-house e-mails. 102 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:50,015 Autocomplete has been enabled on your Outlook." 103 00:05:51,284 --> 00:05:52,885 Anybody know what that meant? 104 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:55,353 Right. 105 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:58,056 "Asterisk-interns" or "asterisk-staff"-- 106 00:05:58,091 --> 00:06:00,692 an asterisk makes it go to a group. 107 00:06:00,727 --> 00:06:02,361 No asterisk makes it go to an individual. 108 00:06:02,395 --> 00:06:04,196 Your name is Neelamani Sampat. 109 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:05,831 - Nailed it. - Neal's fine. 110 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:07,099 Can you say it one more time? 111 00:06:07,134 --> 00:06:08,634 Just type an e-mail to someone. 112 00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:12,772 Okay, I'm sending an e-mail to Will. 113 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:15,809 I'm typing it. I'm still typing it. 114 00:06:15,843 --> 00:06:18,478 - What are you doing now? - Still typing. 115 00:06:18,513 --> 00:06:21,048 And I'm sending it. 116 00:06:22,617 --> 00:06:26,720 ( cell phones ringing ) 117 00:06:26,754 --> 00:06:28,888 It's all right. You made two mistakes. 118 00:06:28,923 --> 00:06:32,025 You used an asterisk, and instead of typing W for "Will," 119 00:06:32,060 --> 00:06:34,595 - you typed S for "staff." - They're close together on the keyboard. 120 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:36,663 "Will McAvoy's a closet bigot who hates immigrants 121 00:06:36,698 --> 00:06:38,298 even though this country was founded by immigrants." 122 00:06:38,333 --> 00:06:40,167 - Everybody get the same thing? - All: Yep. 123 00:06:40,202 --> 00:06:41,636 No one in this newsroom's job 124 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:43,538 is being threatened by an undocumented worker. 125 00:06:43,572 --> 00:06:46,441 Here we go. This is "News Night" 2.0. 126 00:06:46,475 --> 00:06:48,410 - ( all gasp ) - Mackenzie: Sorry! 127 00:06:50,413 --> 00:06:51,847 - ( sighs ) - ( knocking at door ) 128 00:06:51,914 --> 00:06:53,815 - Excuse me, Charlie? - Yeah. 129 00:06:53,850 --> 00:06:55,284 You wanted to see me? 130 00:06:55,318 --> 00:06:57,752 A 12-year-old kid in Topeka is trying to convince me 131 00:06:57,787 --> 00:06:59,354 he's got a pair of jacks in the hole. 132 00:06:59,388 --> 00:07:01,523 - Shouldn't he be in school? - He is in school. 133 00:07:01,557 --> 00:07:04,326 - How can I help you? - Hang on. 134 00:07:04,394 --> 00:07:06,995 He really did have jacks in the hole. 135 00:07:07,030 --> 00:07:09,331 Is there a way I can tell his parents? 136 00:07:09,365 --> 00:07:11,834 - I'm a little busy. - Sure. 137 00:07:11,868 --> 00:07:13,869 You know how you have a secret meeting with Will 138 00:07:13,903 --> 00:07:15,437 every day to talk about numbers? 139 00:07:15,471 --> 00:07:18,640 - I-- we don't have a secret meeting. - Yeah, you do. 140 00:07:18,675 --> 00:07:22,277 - You meet with him in private and you tell him exactly-- - I do it at his request. 141 00:07:22,312 --> 00:07:23,746 - It's very instructive. - It is. 142 00:07:23,780 --> 00:07:25,080 - It's invaluable. - Yeah. 143 00:07:25,114 --> 00:07:26,448 I want you to stop. 144 00:07:26,483 --> 00:07:28,551 Don't break down the numbers for him for a little while. 145 00:07:28,585 --> 00:07:29,919 Can I ask why? 146 00:07:29,953 --> 00:07:31,721 We're trying something new 147 00:07:31,756 --> 00:07:33,723 and I don't want him getting cold feet. 148 00:07:33,758 --> 00:07:35,058 - He listens to you. - He should. 149 00:07:35,092 --> 00:07:36,527 But what do you mean you're trying something new? 150 00:07:36,561 --> 00:07:38,963 We're going to try doing the news, see what happens. 151 00:07:38,997 --> 00:07:40,665 I don't get it. 152 00:07:40,699 --> 00:07:43,100 There are two important conversations-- 153 00:07:43,135 --> 00:07:45,069 how do we do the best news possible 154 00:07:45,103 --> 00:07:46,871 and how do we get the most people to watch? 155 00:07:46,905 --> 00:07:48,540 I don't want one of those conversations 156 00:07:48,574 --> 00:07:50,208 to have anything to do with the other-- 157 00:07:50,243 --> 00:07:52,043 You don't want ratings to drive content. 158 00:07:52,077 --> 00:07:53,611 - Exactly. - Neither do I. 159 00:07:53,646 --> 00:07:55,980 - I want content to drive ratings. - That's the hope. 160 00:07:56,014 --> 00:07:58,549 But for the moment, I don't want ratings in Will's head at all. 161 00:07:58,584 --> 00:08:00,017 I'd be able to tell him you spiked 162 00:08:00,052 --> 00:08:02,587 close to 75,000 new viewers since you broke your story. 163 00:08:02,621 --> 00:08:04,455 - That's 10% in four days. - Yeah. 164 00:08:04,490 --> 00:08:06,057 In addition to the haul he brought in 165 00:08:06,092 --> 00:08:07,292 after he went crazy at Northwestern. 166 00:08:07,326 --> 00:08:09,227 - He didn't go crazy. - I'd be able to tell him 167 00:08:09,261 --> 00:08:10,628 that 32% of those are in the demo... 168 00:08:10,663 --> 00:08:13,165 - Reese. - and 44% make over 75K, 169 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:15,834 which means we can charge more for 15 and 30s 170 00:08:15,868 --> 00:08:17,436 and get out of the wheelchair- selling business. 171 00:08:17,470 --> 00:08:19,271 And what does he do with that information? 172 00:08:19,306 --> 00:08:20,973 He stretches out the spill as long as he can. 173 00:08:21,008 --> 00:08:23,509 - That's ratings driving content. - That's just reality. 174 00:08:23,543 --> 00:08:25,878 - Reese. - No, I need to be able to do my job. 175 00:08:25,912 --> 00:08:29,114 Just don't break down the numbers for Will. 176 00:08:30,617 --> 00:08:32,851 We've never gotten along that well, have we? 177 00:08:32,885 --> 00:08:36,555 Reese, don't break down the numbers for Will. 178 00:08:38,057 --> 00:08:40,659 If I hid in a locked vault buried under the AWM building, 179 00:08:40,693 --> 00:08:43,495 Will would find me so I could break down the numbers for him 180 00:08:43,530 --> 00:08:46,298 because Will McAvoy is the biggest ratings whore in the business. 181 00:08:46,333 --> 00:08:48,133 - I'm not the bad guy. - Nobody's the bad guy. 182 00:08:48,168 --> 00:08:50,336 Though if you call Will a whore again, 183 00:08:50,370 --> 00:08:54,373 I'm going to take out your teeth one punch at a time. 184 00:08:54,407 --> 00:08:56,875 - Anything else? - No, sir. 185 00:08:58,812 --> 00:09:02,447 This is a new show and there are new rules. 186 00:09:02,482 --> 00:09:06,818 One: "Is this information we need in the voting booth?" 187 00:09:06,852 --> 00:09:11,189 Two: "Is this the best possible form of the argument?" 188 00:09:11,223 --> 00:09:15,827 And three: "Is the story in historical context?" 189 00:09:15,861 --> 00:09:18,530 You can use a mnemonic device. 190 00:09:18,564 --> 00:09:21,967 I-I-I, the three Is. 191 00:09:22,001 --> 00:09:24,235 - That's not really helpful. - I was gonna say. 192 00:09:24,269 --> 00:09:27,004 - We're not opening with BP? - It'll go down in the D block. There's nothing new. 193 00:09:27,038 --> 00:09:29,673 How about today's day four of the president not saying anything about it? 194 00:09:29,708 --> 00:09:31,075 Would you get off the man's back? 195 00:09:31,109 --> 00:09:32,977 Jesus Christ. I'm surprised you found room. 196 00:09:33,011 --> 00:09:34,645 Gary, Kendra. 197 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,715 Gary is the smart black guy who's not afraid to criticize Obama. 198 00:09:37,749 --> 00:09:40,651 Kendra got double 800s on her SATs, makes Gary crazy. 199 00:09:40,685 --> 00:09:42,686 - I studied. - BP's going in the D block. 200 00:09:42,787 --> 00:09:43,854 Jim. 201 00:09:43,888 --> 00:09:46,123 SB 1070 passed the Arizona House last week 202 00:09:46,158 --> 00:09:48,259 and a few days later passed the State Senate. 203 00:09:48,293 --> 00:09:52,697 Its official name is the Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act. 204 00:09:52,731 --> 00:09:56,534 It requires immigrants carry their alien registration documents at all times, 205 00:09:56,568 --> 00:09:58,803 requires police question people if there's reason to suspect 206 00:09:58,837 --> 00:10:00,805 they're in the United States illegally, 207 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,674 and it targets those who hire illegal immigrants. 208 00:10:02,708 --> 00:10:04,208 The governor signs the bill today. 209 00:10:04,243 --> 00:10:06,810 Is it worth mentioning this is the same state that offered a bill 210 00:10:06,845 --> 00:10:08,746 requiring presidential candidates to show 211 00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:10,614 their birth certificates in order to get on the ballot? 212 00:10:10,648 --> 00:10:12,616 In a courtroom, that would be called "prejudicial." 213 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:14,117 It would be called prejudicial anywhere. 214 00:10:14,152 --> 00:10:15,452 Nope, not that kind of prejudicial. 215 00:10:15,486 --> 00:10:17,955 We've got the governor for nine minutes. 216 00:10:17,989 --> 00:10:20,090 - Just us. She's only talking to Will. - How'd you swing that? 217 00:10:20,124 --> 00:10:23,093 - By telling her about "News Night" 2.0. - You showed her the easel? 218 00:10:23,128 --> 00:10:26,430 I convinced her she's not going to have to outshout a crazy person. 219 00:10:26,464 --> 00:10:29,533 That studio is a courtroom 220 00:10:29,567 --> 00:10:32,903 and we only call expert witnesses. 221 00:10:32,937 --> 00:10:35,138 Will is the attorney for both sides. 222 00:10:35,173 --> 00:10:38,975 He examines the witness and reveals facts. 223 00:10:39,010 --> 00:10:42,045 You will be amazed at the guests we'll book 224 00:10:42,079 --> 00:10:44,514 using that unbelievably obvious template. 225 00:10:44,548 --> 00:10:46,049 You don't have to raise your hand. 226 00:10:46,083 --> 00:10:48,517 I saw one of those crazy militia guys on "Jon Stewart" last night. 227 00:10:48,552 --> 00:10:51,354 - We could also have him on. - Mackenzie: Did you hear me when I was speaking just then 228 00:10:51,388 --> 00:10:53,189 or were you distracted by a bumblebee? 229 00:10:53,224 --> 00:10:56,059 What does the I stand for? 230 00:10:56,093 --> 00:10:59,896 ( all talking at once ) 231 00:10:59,930 --> 00:11:01,531 The-- the second I. 232 00:11:01,565 --> 00:11:04,367 "Is this the best possible form of the argument?" 233 00:11:04,401 --> 00:11:06,135 Not the most colorful version, 234 00:11:06,170 --> 00:11:07,570 not the most outrageous version, 235 00:11:07,604 --> 00:11:10,506 but the best possible version. 236 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:13,009 - How do you define "best"? - I define it by the source. 237 00:11:13,043 --> 00:11:15,878 I define it by the number of relevant facts it contains, 238 00:11:15,913 --> 00:11:17,914 and I define it by an X factor 239 00:11:17,949 --> 00:11:19,950 that I trust Will and myself to determine, 240 00:11:19,984 --> 00:11:22,119 using our combined five decades in the field. 241 00:11:22,153 --> 00:11:23,987 What's the best possible version of the Birther argument? 242 00:11:24,022 --> 00:11:26,523 There isn't one. And that's the fourth-- ah! 243 00:11:26,558 --> 00:11:28,325 This one's an A. 244 00:11:28,359 --> 00:11:30,460 Are there really two sides to this story? 245 00:11:30,495 --> 00:11:33,664 So it's I-I-I-A. 246 00:11:33,698 --> 00:11:35,633 What does that mean, are there really-- 247 00:11:35,667 --> 00:11:39,369 The media is biased towards success and the media is biased towards fairness. 248 00:11:39,404 --> 00:11:41,038 How can you be biased toward fairness? 249 00:11:41,072 --> 00:11:42,639 There aren't two sides to every story. 250 00:11:42,674 --> 00:11:45,309 Some stories have five sides, some only have one. 251 00:11:45,343 --> 00:11:47,111 - You don't have to raise your hand. - I still don't under-- 252 00:11:47,145 --> 00:11:50,280 Biased toward fairness means that if the entire Congressional Republican Caucus 253 00:11:50,315 --> 00:11:52,349 were to walk into the House and propose a resolution 254 00:11:52,384 --> 00:11:54,786 stating that the earth was flat, the "Times" would lead 255 00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:57,188 with "Democrats and Republicans Can't Agree on Shape of Earth." 256 00:11:57,223 --> 00:11:59,057 Uh... ( banging ) 257 00:11:59,091 --> 00:12:00,993 - Mac? - Would you let them raise their hands? 258 00:12:01,027 --> 00:12:02,995 - Fine. - Back to immigration. 259 00:12:03,029 --> 00:12:04,730 Neelamani Sampat. It means "blue jewel." 260 00:12:04,764 --> 00:12:07,900 - I didn't know that. - I did. I took the time. I care. 261 00:12:07,934 --> 00:12:10,536 - Are you asking him out? - If he wants me to. I'm nice. 262 00:12:10,570 --> 00:12:12,804 - And what are you still doing here? - I was asked to help. 263 00:12:12,839 --> 00:12:15,007 Don generously volunteered to help during the transition. 264 00:12:15,041 --> 00:12:17,442 - He was asked or he volunteered? - I'm happy to go. 265 00:12:17,476 --> 00:12:18,609 - Apologize. - I'm sorry. 266 00:12:18,644 --> 00:12:20,011 - Mackenzie: To Don. - I'm over it. 267 00:12:20,045 --> 00:12:21,212 Neal. 268 00:12:21,246 --> 00:12:23,347 There is an alternative weekly in Spokane 269 00:12:23,381 --> 00:12:25,849 called the "Pacific Northwest Insider" 270 00:12:25,884 --> 00:12:28,652 that published an article about immigration a couple of weeks ago. 271 00:12:28,687 --> 00:12:31,222 The story featured a guy named Hector Nunez 272 00:12:31,256 --> 00:12:33,257 who revealed that when he was 16, 273 00:12:33,292 --> 00:12:35,426 his parents told him that he was living here illegally. 274 00:12:35,460 --> 00:12:36,827 The paper used his real name? 275 00:12:36,862 --> 00:12:38,663 Yeah, and the state of Washington rescinded 276 00:12:38,697 --> 00:12:40,831 his driver's license after the piece came out. 277 00:12:40,866 --> 00:12:44,969 He needs his car to get to his job with a small moving company 278 00:12:45,003 --> 00:12:47,104 and to take his kids to school in the morning. 279 00:12:47,139 --> 00:12:48,906 I thought we could have him on. 280 00:12:48,940 --> 00:12:50,607 I've got to budget 42 minutes. 281 00:12:50,675 --> 00:12:53,277 I've already spent 18 on Jan Brewer and La Raza. 282 00:12:53,311 --> 00:12:55,245 I thought we could put a human face on immigration. 283 00:12:55,279 --> 00:12:57,381 How about putting a human face on the guy whose job he took? 284 00:12:57,416 --> 00:12:58,917 Mackenzie: We don't have the time. 285 00:12:58,951 --> 00:13:01,720 We've got 1070, BP, and a Senate candidate 286 00:13:01,754 --> 00:13:03,489 who says poor people can pay doctors with chickens. 287 00:13:03,523 --> 00:13:05,725 But even if we did have the time, it would be emotionally manipulative. 288 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:07,293 - How? - We'd be putting him there 289 00:13:07,327 --> 00:13:08,794 so that we can feel sorry for him. 290 00:13:08,829 --> 00:13:10,630 We should feel sorry for him. He's getting screwed. 291 00:13:10,664 --> 00:13:12,399 You should feel sorry for the guy whose job he took. 292 00:13:12,433 --> 00:13:13,967 I don't want to feel sorry for anybody. 293 00:13:14,001 --> 00:13:17,403 I want the facts, and neither of them can provide facts. 294 00:13:17,438 --> 00:13:19,239 - Somebody's gonna book this kid. - Nobody's gonna book him. 295 00:13:19,273 --> 00:13:20,539 Nobody's gonna have heard of him. 296 00:13:20,574 --> 00:13:22,174 It's an alternative weekly in Spokane. 297 00:13:22,209 --> 00:13:25,845 And do you see "What's our competition doing?" on the easel? 298 00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:27,881 - No, but I wish I did. - Moving on. 299 00:13:30,985 --> 00:13:32,318 The Dow has ticked down 108 points 300 00:13:32,353 --> 00:13:34,454 on a surprisingly weak durable-goods orders report 301 00:13:34,489 --> 00:13:36,556 from the Commerce Department that has raised worries... 302 00:13:36,591 --> 00:13:39,626 Listen, I'm not gonna take it from him in public or private. 303 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:41,428 - I'm doing you guys a favor. - I'm sorry. 304 00:13:41,462 --> 00:13:43,063 I understand. And he knows that. 305 00:13:43,097 --> 00:13:44,865 You're cutting "PopWatch" and "Today on YouTube"? 306 00:13:44,899 --> 00:13:46,900 I am. And I know they're both yours, but-- 307 00:13:46,968 --> 00:13:48,435 I don't care that they're mine. 308 00:13:48,469 --> 00:13:50,537 I care that they're the most popular segments on the show. 309 00:13:50,571 --> 00:13:53,574 - Look at the minute to minutes. - Feel free to use them when you and Elliot start at 10:00. 310 00:13:53,608 --> 00:13:55,608 Yeah, there's gonna be nobody left at 10:00 if you lead off the night 311 00:13:55,643 --> 00:13:57,944 with the "Will McAvoy Makes You Eat Your Vegetables Hour." 312 00:13:59,346 --> 00:14:02,815 - Hmm? - Forget it. 313 00:14:04,985 --> 00:14:06,686 - Maggie. - Yeah. 314 00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:08,722 Mac wants me to supervise your preinterview with Brewer's office. 315 00:14:08,756 --> 00:14:11,191 - I was told. - All right, you're gonna be talking to a spokesperson. 316 00:14:11,225 --> 00:14:14,828 - I'll call him now. - I thought maybe we could do a practice run first. 317 00:14:14,863 --> 00:14:17,431 Okay, I'd like to say, with all respect, 318 00:14:17,465 --> 00:14:19,600 that I don't feel I need to be supervised. 319 00:14:19,634 --> 00:14:21,935 - Okay. - You'll let me do it by myself? 320 00:14:21,969 --> 00:14:24,204 No, I just meant okay, I heard you say that. 321 00:14:24,238 --> 00:14:26,373 I've been here a year. You've been here three days. 322 00:14:26,407 --> 00:14:29,476 Mac's working with a group of relatively inexperienced people she doesn't know. 323 00:14:29,510 --> 00:14:30,710 - I know that. - All right. 324 00:14:30,745 --> 00:14:32,712 - So you'll let me do it myself? - No. 325 00:14:32,747 --> 00:14:35,348 - Then I'm doing this under protest. - I'm sorry? 326 00:14:35,382 --> 00:14:37,751 I'm just-- I'll be-- I'm doing this under protest. 327 00:14:37,785 --> 00:14:39,719 - What does that look like? - It'll be the same. 328 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:41,521 I'm just lodging an official protest. 329 00:14:41,555 --> 00:14:43,623 - With who? - My immediate superior, I guess. 330 00:14:43,657 --> 00:14:46,025 - That's me. - Well, are you writing it down? 331 00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:48,194 No. Are you really considering going to 10:00? 332 00:14:48,229 --> 00:14:50,931 - Don made some compelling arguments. - Yeah? What were they? 333 00:14:50,965 --> 00:14:53,933 That growing something from scratch is something I should experience. 334 00:14:53,968 --> 00:14:56,536 - ( laughs ) Okay. - Whoa, whoa, wait. 335 00:14:56,570 --> 00:14:57,604 - What did that mean? - Nothing. 336 00:14:57,638 --> 00:14:58,671 - Really? - Yeah. 337 00:14:58,706 --> 00:15:00,774 I know exactly what you're thinking. 338 00:15:00,808 --> 00:15:02,575 I can't say the same. 339 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:04,444 - You don't think I'm making a relationship choice? - No. 340 00:15:04,478 --> 00:15:06,112 That this is just a temp gig for me 341 00:15:06,147 --> 00:15:09,349 until someone puts a ring on it and I can have kids? 342 00:15:09,383 --> 00:15:11,318 I wasn't saying-- I didn't say any of that. 343 00:15:11,352 --> 00:15:14,220 You don't think that I don't have the same commitment to news that you do? 344 00:15:14,255 --> 00:15:16,489 No. 345 00:15:16,524 --> 00:15:18,758 I'll be honest-- because of the way I phrased those questions, 346 00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:20,927 I wasn't totally clear on what your answers meant. 347 00:15:20,995 --> 00:15:23,829 I think that you have the same commitment to the news that I do. 348 00:15:23,864 --> 00:15:25,664 I think kids are great. I used to be one. 349 00:15:25,699 --> 00:15:27,467 And I can't remember the third thing, but-- 350 00:15:27,501 --> 00:15:29,068 - Ring, ring. - Thank you. 351 00:15:29,103 --> 00:15:30,636 - Ring, ring. - Hi, it's Glenn Fisher. 352 00:15:30,671 --> 00:15:32,171 - Glenn Fisher? - Yes. 353 00:15:32,205 --> 00:15:33,806 - That's the spokesperson I'm talking to? - Yes. 354 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,074 I thought it was John Markell. 355 00:15:35,108 --> 00:15:36,775 Fisher's a press agent who's doing the preinterview. 356 00:15:36,810 --> 00:15:38,878 Okay. 357 00:15:38,912 --> 00:15:41,446 First, you go into iNews and you look over the questions 358 00:15:41,481 --> 00:15:43,181 the segment producer put in the rundown. 359 00:15:43,216 --> 00:15:46,385 Identify yourself and your news agency, summarize the segment-- 360 00:15:46,419 --> 00:15:47,953 the length, whether it's live or not, 361 00:15:47,987 --> 00:15:50,089 and who we're having on from the other side. 362 00:15:50,123 --> 00:15:53,091 I'm sorry, but don't I first open my eyes and notice it's a new day? 363 00:15:53,126 --> 00:15:54,559 - What are we talking about here? - I've done this before. 364 00:15:54,594 --> 00:15:57,128 - Okay. - What is this magic box in front of me? 365 00:15:57,163 --> 00:15:58,730 Have I done something to you? 366 00:15:58,764 --> 00:16:00,531 I swear I was just thinking the exact same thing. 367 00:16:00,566 --> 00:16:02,367 I have no idea why I'm being mean to you. 368 00:16:02,401 --> 00:16:03,835 Now that you know that, do you think you'll stop? 369 00:16:03,869 --> 00:16:05,470 That's the thing-- it doesn't feel like it. 370 00:16:05,504 --> 00:16:06,771 I'm just being honest. 371 00:16:06,805 --> 00:16:08,639 I can't ask for more than that, except rational thought. 372 00:16:08,674 --> 00:16:10,241 - What was that? - Nothing. 373 00:16:10,275 --> 00:16:11,876 - Ring, ring. - Hi, it's Glenn Fisher. 374 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:13,777 Glenn, this is Margaret Jordan. 375 00:16:13,812 --> 00:16:16,580 I'm an associate producer at "News Night" and I'm doing the preinterview 376 00:16:16,614 --> 00:16:18,248 for the governor's appearance this evening. 377 00:16:18,283 --> 00:16:21,552 I know Will's gonna wanna ask why mean people 378 00:16:21,586 --> 00:16:23,620 tend to pour into your state like it's a bathtub drain. 379 00:16:23,654 --> 00:16:25,255 Will's not gonna wanna ask that. 380 00:16:25,289 --> 00:16:27,924 I think they're building the fence on the wrong side of the state. 381 00:16:27,959 --> 00:16:30,193 Margaret, here in Arizona, the government can barely pay 382 00:16:30,228 --> 00:16:32,029 for the needs of native-born poor as it is-- 383 00:16:32,063 --> 00:16:33,663 welfare, education, Social Security-- 384 00:16:33,698 --> 00:16:35,232 especially when so many households here 385 00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:37,301 are one or two paychecks away from the poverty line. 386 00:16:37,335 --> 00:16:38,769 You're scapegoating these people. 387 00:16:38,804 --> 00:16:41,606 Stop. I just said illegals cost money. 388 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,042 - Ask the follow-up. - Okay. 389 00:16:45,077 --> 00:16:47,445 Ask it. 390 00:16:47,479 --> 00:16:50,081 My follow-up, Mr. Fisher, is this-- 391 00:16:50,115 --> 00:16:53,784 I understand that having undocumented workers living in the US costs money 392 00:16:53,819 --> 00:16:56,186 and it's a problem we have to do something about, 393 00:16:56,221 --> 00:16:58,388 but shouldn't it be a point of pride for Americans 394 00:16:58,422 --> 00:17:01,057 that others are willing to uproot their families just to come here? 395 00:17:01,091 --> 00:17:03,559 The follow-up was "How much do they cost?" 396 00:17:03,593 --> 00:17:06,429 But, yes, it is a point of pride that people wanna come to America 397 00:17:06,496 --> 00:17:08,531 and we value our diverse population in Arizona, 398 00:17:08,565 --> 00:17:10,833 but we just want people to immigrate legally and become citizens. 399 00:17:10,867 --> 00:17:13,669 And I'm sure that's what's behind the emotion and the vitriol-- 400 00:17:13,704 --> 00:17:15,972 Americans hate it when people don't fill out the proper paperwork. 401 00:17:16,006 --> 00:17:20,009 - You can't antagonize the-- - I'm gonna ask the right questions, you dweeb! 402 00:17:20,044 --> 00:17:21,911 - And you'll follow up? - I'll follow up. 403 00:17:21,946 --> 00:17:25,816 My point is that whatever side of this you're on, 404 00:17:25,850 --> 00:17:29,686 the rhetoric we use to talk about these people who risk their lives 405 00:17:29,721 --> 00:17:31,054 to have a shot at picking oranges 406 00:17:31,089 --> 00:17:33,256 so their kids have a shot at not being dead 407 00:17:33,291 --> 00:17:35,358 makes it sound like we're talking about 408 00:17:35,393 --> 00:17:38,095 scraping gum off our shoes. 409 00:17:38,129 --> 00:17:42,065 These people chose to take a huge risk to become Americans 410 00:17:42,099 --> 00:17:44,902 and they deserve a better descriptor than "illegals." 411 00:17:52,077 --> 00:17:53,911 You don't need me. You got this one. 412 00:17:53,945 --> 00:17:55,779 Thank you. 413 00:17:55,814 --> 00:17:58,449 Sloan: Another story making headlines this morning is, of course, Greece, 414 00:17:58,484 --> 00:18:01,019 whose prime minister officially requested activation 415 00:18:01,053 --> 00:18:02,887 of the EU/IMF bailout package, 416 00:18:02,922 --> 00:18:04,922 lifting the euro from its lowest level of the year 417 00:18:04,957 --> 00:18:06,557 and sending commodity prices soaring. 418 00:18:06,592 --> 00:18:08,793 We'll have that and the rest of the day's financial news 419 00:18:08,828 --> 00:18:10,428 on "Market Wrap-Up" at 4:00. 420 00:18:10,462 --> 00:18:11,796 I'm Sloan Sabbith. 421 00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:14,265 Let's go out to Diane and Billy on the West Coast 422 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:15,834 for Atlantis Hollywood. 423 00:18:15,868 --> 00:18:17,936 Man: And we're clear. 424 00:18:20,072 --> 00:18:22,575 - Hello. - Sloan, I'm Mackenzie McHale. 425 00:18:22,609 --> 00:18:24,910 - I know. It's good to meet you. - It's nice to meet you. 426 00:18:24,945 --> 00:18:27,546 - Do you have a minute? - Sure. Thanks. 427 00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:32,051 Mackenzie: You know, I was watching you earlier when you were talking about 428 00:18:32,086 --> 00:18:34,487 two companies-- Capital One and, um-- 429 00:18:34,522 --> 00:18:36,122 - Baxter. - Baxter. 430 00:18:36,156 --> 00:18:38,524 And the prompter said, "Both of whom are hinting at good numbers," 431 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:41,193 and you said, "Both of which are hinting at good numbers." 432 00:18:41,228 --> 00:18:43,929 - Was that an accident? - No. I didn't write that copy. 433 00:18:43,997 --> 00:18:46,332 I changed it to "which" because "whom" is for people. 434 00:18:46,366 --> 00:18:48,234 - Is someone in trouble? - No. 435 00:18:48,268 --> 00:18:51,337 - Do you mind coming into my office for a second? - Sure. 436 00:18:51,371 --> 00:18:54,207 What's the difference between a corporation and a person? 437 00:18:54,241 --> 00:18:56,409 - Have you ever held a door open for someone? - Yes. 438 00:18:56,443 --> 00:18:58,311 - Did you ask them for money first? - No. 439 00:18:58,345 --> 00:19:00,246 - That's the difference. - That's the right answer. 440 00:19:00,281 --> 00:19:02,916 - Am I taking a test? - I've asked around and people say 441 00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:04,651 you don't belong here, that you could be making 442 00:19:04,685 --> 00:19:06,686 a lot more money as an analyst at Goldman. 443 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,088 Couldn't you be making a lot more money producing reality television? 444 00:19:09,123 --> 00:19:12,426 I do produce reality television. 445 00:19:12,460 --> 00:19:14,061 I don't know what to tell you. 446 00:19:14,095 --> 00:19:15,129 I like my job. 447 00:19:15,163 --> 00:19:17,364 Do you feel like working longer hours? 448 00:19:17,399 --> 00:19:19,433 They talked to me about doing a morning show 449 00:19:19,467 --> 00:19:21,001 a couple of times, but I can't do that. 450 00:19:21,036 --> 00:19:23,337 I'm not interested in cooking. I make sandwiches. 451 00:19:23,372 --> 00:19:26,440 I get that I don't necessarily look like it, but I'm an economist. 452 00:19:26,475 --> 00:19:29,010 - Thanks, though. - Yeah, I meant in prime time. 453 00:19:29,044 --> 00:19:32,080 I want to give you five minutes every night 454 00:19:32,114 --> 00:19:34,616 to talk about where we are and how we got here. 455 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:36,485 Are you serious? 456 00:19:37,787 --> 00:19:39,254 There are people more qualified than I am. 457 00:19:39,289 --> 00:19:41,657 I can put you in touch with some of the professors that I studied under-- 458 00:19:41,691 --> 00:19:45,861 Yeah, the thing is they're not going to have your legs. 459 00:19:45,895 --> 00:19:49,598 I'm sorry, but if I'm going to get people to listen to an economics lesson, 460 00:19:49,633 --> 00:19:52,568 I've got to find someone who doesn't look like George Bernard Shaw. 461 00:19:52,603 --> 00:19:56,006 I would not ask you if I didn't think you were qualified. 462 00:19:57,708 --> 00:19:59,977 You want me to do pole dancing while explaining subprime mortgages? 463 00:20:00,011 --> 00:20:01,979 If you're up to it, sure. 464 00:20:02,013 --> 00:20:03,580 All right, I get it. 465 00:20:03,615 --> 00:20:05,349 We'll start a conversation with Will about our goals 466 00:20:05,383 --> 00:20:07,217 - and how we're going to get there. - Great. 467 00:20:07,252 --> 00:20:09,454 - I think you and I are going to be good friends. - I'd like that. 468 00:20:09,522 --> 00:20:10,555 - Me, too. - Okay. 469 00:20:10,589 --> 00:20:12,323 I mean it. I don't have any friends. 470 00:20:12,358 --> 00:20:14,159 Oh. 471 00:20:14,193 --> 00:20:16,327 You know, you're-- you're new in town, so-- 472 00:20:16,362 --> 00:20:18,363 Yeah. Yeah. 473 00:20:19,999 --> 00:20:22,968 - You know, you and I have something in common. - What's that? 474 00:20:23,002 --> 00:20:25,404 - I had a boyfriend who cheated on me, too. - Ah. 475 00:20:25,438 --> 00:20:28,307 - The week of our wedding. - Oh. Oh. 476 00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:31,276 I don't understand. 477 00:20:31,311 --> 00:20:35,180 - I know about Will. - Yeah. Yeah. 478 00:20:36,382 --> 00:20:37,983 I still don't understand. 479 00:20:39,619 --> 00:20:41,720 Wait, Will didn't cheat on me. 480 00:20:41,755 --> 00:20:44,624 - I used to deny it, too. - Will didn't cheat on me. 481 00:20:44,658 --> 00:20:46,659 - Oh, okay. Sorry. - I can't talk about what happened, 482 00:20:46,693 --> 00:20:48,361 but I can tell you that Will didn't cheat on me. 483 00:20:48,395 --> 00:20:50,730 - I shouldn't have mentioned anything. - Sloan, listen to me. 484 00:20:50,764 --> 00:20:51,932 Will didn't cheat on me. 485 00:20:51,966 --> 00:20:54,067 Yes, we were together for two years and we broke up. 486 00:20:54,102 --> 00:20:57,004 I can't tell you any more than that, but he never, ever, never cheated on me. 487 00:20:57,038 --> 00:20:58,772 - Who told you that? - Everybody. 488 00:20:58,807 --> 00:21:00,407 That's what people-- no, no, no. 489 00:21:00,442 --> 00:21:02,043 That-- that's not what happened. 490 00:21:02,077 --> 00:21:03,978 - You don't have to tell me what happened. - I can't tell you. 491 00:21:04,013 --> 00:21:07,382 He doesn't want anyone in the office to know. He made me promise. 492 00:21:07,416 --> 00:21:09,318 No, not because-- 493 00:21:09,352 --> 00:21:10,886 I can't talk. Ugh! 494 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,122 Even though in this situation, I think he'd prefer-- 495 00:21:13,156 --> 00:21:15,591 no, he really doesn't want the office to know anything. 496 00:21:15,625 --> 00:21:18,393 - He didn't cheat on me. - I should get back to work. 497 00:21:18,428 --> 00:21:20,496 You need to tell people that. 498 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:22,231 You're enabling an ass. 499 00:21:22,265 --> 00:21:24,066 He's-- whoa. 500 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:26,435 He's not an ass. 501 00:21:27,570 --> 00:21:29,671 Come here. 502 00:21:29,706 --> 00:21:31,773 Will's not an ass. He's the opposite of an ass. 503 00:21:31,808 --> 00:21:35,411 Even if he did cheat on me, which he absolutely didn't, he's definitely not an ass. 504 00:21:35,445 --> 00:21:37,279 - Do people think that? - You had to have known that. 505 00:21:37,313 --> 00:21:39,548 I thought they thought he was gruff, but lovable. 506 00:21:39,582 --> 00:21:42,217 - No, they think he's an ass who cheated on you. - That has to be corrected. 507 00:21:42,252 --> 00:21:44,386 - I have to start the 4:00. - Okay, okay, okay. 508 00:21:44,421 --> 00:21:46,088 You need to do this-- 509 00:21:46,122 --> 00:21:48,390 you need to go from person to person and tell them 510 00:21:48,424 --> 00:21:50,592 that Will is an extraordinary man 511 00:21:50,627 --> 00:21:52,494 with a heart the size of a Range Rover, 512 00:21:52,528 --> 00:21:55,764 that there's a-- a long story that has to do-- 513 00:21:55,798 --> 00:21:57,666 a lot to do with me, but also other things. 514 00:21:57,700 --> 00:22:01,636 I can't tell you the story of his life, but he's the good guy. 515 00:22:01,670 --> 00:22:03,671 - Will you tell people that? - Every chance I get. 516 00:22:03,706 --> 00:22:05,473 - You're not going to, right? - No, I'm not. 517 00:22:05,508 --> 00:22:07,441 Okay. 518 00:22:07,476 --> 00:22:11,312 - Will: We spiked up 9% overall. - On top of the 7% that came after Northwestern. 519 00:22:11,346 --> 00:22:12,780 You played high school football. 520 00:22:12,815 --> 00:22:14,615 What do you do when you have a lead late in the game? 521 00:22:14,650 --> 00:22:16,050 My high school never had to worry about that. 522 00:22:16,084 --> 00:22:17,485 - You protect the lead. - Man: Will McAvoy! 523 00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:20,288 How do you get used to eating lunch at 4:00 in the afternoon? 524 00:22:20,322 --> 00:22:22,723 I work from 11:00 to 9:00. It's across all demos, too. 525 00:22:22,757 --> 00:22:25,592 Will McAvoy's the place to be for all things BP. 526 00:22:25,627 --> 00:22:27,327 Hey, I need you to tell me right now 527 00:22:27,362 --> 00:22:29,196 you're not using that as a promo slug. 528 00:22:29,230 --> 00:22:31,431 We're not, but Brad ground-researched the hell out of this since Northwestern, 529 00:22:31,465 --> 00:22:34,300 and the feedback we keep getting, especially from 18 to 49s, 530 00:22:34,335 --> 00:22:36,236 is just studded with green flags. 531 00:22:36,304 --> 00:22:37,871 And this isn't Brad selective-coding, man. 532 00:22:37,906 --> 00:22:39,606 We're talking about an actual, bona fide, audience-driven response 533 00:22:39,641 --> 00:22:41,742 to Northwestern and the way you handled the breaking news. 534 00:22:41,777 --> 00:22:43,878 I don't see them capping the well anytime soon. 535 00:22:43,912 --> 00:22:45,746 - But you're not leading with it. - Not tonight. 536 00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:48,382 - It'll be down in the D block. - It sunk this morning. 537 00:22:48,416 --> 00:22:50,918 We got film of a massive offshore drilling rig 538 00:22:50,952 --> 00:22:52,352 sinking into the Gulf of Mexico. 539 00:22:52,387 --> 00:22:53,953 We knew that was gonna happen. 540 00:22:53,988 --> 00:22:55,855 People knew the Titanic was gonna sink when they went to the movie, 541 00:22:55,890 --> 00:22:58,225 but it was cool to watch, which is why they went to the movie. 542 00:22:58,259 --> 00:23:01,494 Partner, something's going on here and you gotta tell me what it is. 543 00:23:01,529 --> 00:23:03,796 Look, we're trying to format a new broadcast 544 00:23:03,831 --> 00:23:05,731 that puts a priority on information voters need, 545 00:23:05,766 --> 00:23:08,267 puts the information in context, and then tries to present 546 00:23:08,302 --> 00:23:10,169 the best possible versions of competing arguments. 547 00:23:10,203 --> 00:23:11,871 Here's what I just heard-- we got a hit show 548 00:23:11,905 --> 00:23:14,774 that just got bigger, so now we're trying to fix it. 549 00:23:14,808 --> 00:23:16,542 Listen, there's no one here but me and you. 550 00:23:16,577 --> 00:23:18,911 Is this something you want or something you got talked into? 551 00:23:18,946 --> 00:23:20,680 It's-- no, it's something I want badly. 552 00:23:20,714 --> 00:23:23,082 - I've wanted this since the dawn of time. - More than numbers? 553 00:23:23,117 --> 00:23:25,685 Weren't you the one that told me that your audience are your only friends? 554 00:23:25,719 --> 00:23:28,221 I said that after a couple of shots of some kind of varnish remover 555 00:23:28,255 --> 00:23:29,823 at a particularly low point in my life. 556 00:23:29,857 --> 00:23:31,657 - That was two weeks ago. - It was a very low point. 557 00:23:31,692 --> 00:23:33,159 - I think it was lower than three weeks ago. - Will. 558 00:23:33,193 --> 00:23:35,561 Mackenzie thinks I don't have to sacrifice one for the other. 559 00:23:35,595 --> 00:23:37,596 Well, Mackenzie is the expert on predicting audience trends. 560 00:23:37,631 --> 00:23:39,365 No, wait. She's not, Brad is. 561 00:23:39,399 --> 00:23:41,400 - We're not setting out to lose viewers... - No one ever does. 562 00:23:41,435 --> 00:23:42,935 just better news for the ones we've got. 563 00:23:42,969 --> 00:23:44,670 All right, I'll stop. 564 00:23:44,704 --> 00:23:46,805 Listen, I still want your advice every day. 565 00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:48,607 My advice today: go to the conservative websites. 566 00:23:48,642 --> 00:23:50,242 - I do. - You'll see that they like you. 567 00:23:50,277 --> 00:23:51,810 They think you're a RINO, but they like that you don't 568 00:23:51,845 --> 00:23:53,245 take cheap shots at Sarah Palin. 569 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:54,913 - Look at the comments section. - Yeah, I know. 570 00:23:54,948 --> 00:23:57,316 Palin made a statement about the spill last night. 571 00:23:57,351 --> 00:23:58,818 - It was ridiculous. - Yes, it was. 572 00:23:58,852 --> 00:24:00,319 It'll be a joke on every late-night show. 573 00:24:00,353 --> 00:24:01,821 She basically wrote Letterman's monologue. 574 00:24:01,855 --> 00:24:03,122 - So you want my advice? - Yes. 575 00:24:03,157 --> 00:24:04,891 Be the guy that doesn't take a shot at her tonight. 576 00:24:04,925 --> 00:24:06,359 Well, I won't be taking a shot at her, 577 00:24:06,393 --> 00:24:07,860 but that's because I won't be using her. 578 00:24:07,894 --> 00:24:09,729 I'm saying you should use her, but not to take a shot-- 579 00:24:09,763 --> 00:24:10,930 No, she's a private citizen. 580 00:24:10,965 --> 00:24:12,632 She doesn't have any qualifications in this area, 581 00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:14,267 so it's hard with the new format to justify-- 582 00:24:14,302 --> 00:24:15,936 Let me tell you what it looks like when the audience leaves. 583 00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:18,038 I can't jam in a Palin SOT just to give myself 584 00:24:18,072 --> 00:24:20,006 the opportunity to not take a shot at her. 585 00:24:20,041 --> 00:24:21,975 If I cross that line, I'm just saying, "Fuck the whole thing." 586 00:24:22,009 --> 00:24:24,144 It looks like this: first you lose the people who just got here. 587 00:24:24,178 --> 00:24:26,212 Then everyone writes that you lost the people that just got here. 588 00:24:26,246 --> 00:24:28,348 That makes people think they're not at the cool party anymore. 589 00:24:28,382 --> 00:24:30,483 You ever been at Sardi's on opening night of a Broadway show 590 00:24:30,517 --> 00:24:32,485 five minutes after word gets out the "Times" panned it? 591 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,020 They leave. 592 00:24:34,054 --> 00:24:36,923 And they never come back, ever. 593 00:24:36,957 --> 00:24:38,558 And it happens in not much more time 594 00:24:38,592 --> 00:24:41,394 than it just took me to describe it. 595 00:24:41,428 --> 00:24:43,596 It's conservatives who watch the news on TV. 596 00:24:43,630 --> 00:24:46,265 Don't pass up an opportunity to remind them why they don't hate you. 597 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:47,934 I really want to give the new format a-- 598 00:24:47,968 --> 00:24:49,602 Also, would you do me a favor and tell Charlie Skinner 599 00:24:49,636 --> 00:24:51,003 that you're the one who asked for these meetings? 600 00:24:51,037 --> 00:24:52,638 And do you want me to fix you up with someone 601 00:24:52,672 --> 00:24:54,206 who'll take your mind off a girl from three years ago? 602 00:24:54,241 --> 00:24:55,875 - No, thank you. - Palin. 603 00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:57,644 - She's married. - Not to fix you up with. 604 00:24:57,711 --> 00:24:59,579 - I'm saying use the Palin SOT. - I know. It's not gonna happen. 605 00:24:59,613 --> 00:25:03,082 - Mackenzie would cook me and eat me. - You're the boss. 606 00:25:03,116 --> 00:25:06,685 I'll keep reminding you of that because I'm not wild about your ex. 607 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,122 Hey, look, her name is Mackenzie or Miss McHale, 608 00:25:10,156 --> 00:25:12,191 and she's reported more real news in one day 609 00:25:12,225 --> 00:25:14,793 than I have in my career. 610 00:25:15,829 --> 00:25:17,696 Fuck. 611 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:29,642 - ( phone clacks ) - ( sighs ) 612 00:25:33,146 --> 00:25:35,514 - Hi. - Hello. 613 00:25:35,548 --> 00:25:36,982 Jan Brewer just bailed on us for tonight. 614 00:25:37,016 --> 00:25:39,118 - What are you talking about? - They canceled. 615 00:25:39,152 --> 00:25:42,254 - She's going on CNN. - Who-- uh, who's she sending instead? 616 00:25:42,288 --> 00:25:45,023 Maggie, no one from the governor's office is coming on the show. 617 00:25:45,058 --> 00:25:46,958 - What happened with the call? - Oh, God. 618 00:25:46,993 --> 00:25:48,994 - What happened? - This can't be because of the call. 619 00:25:49,028 --> 00:25:51,930 - It happened on the call. - I swear, I kept my personal feelings to myself. 620 00:25:51,964 --> 00:25:54,832 I was on the phone with Glenn Fisher 621 00:25:54,867 --> 00:25:56,401 and it was really just by the book. 622 00:25:56,435 --> 00:25:58,203 Okay, so the preinterview was going fine... 623 00:25:58,237 --> 00:25:59,504 - Yeah. - when all of a sudden...? 624 00:25:59,538 --> 00:26:01,439 Things happen, Jim, okay, 625 00:26:01,473 --> 00:26:03,674 that are beyond your super-newsman powers of understanding. 626 00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:06,911 I wish you had told me that you dated Glenn Fisher in college. 627 00:26:06,945 --> 00:26:08,246 How could you possibly know that? 628 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,847 He told me, which is what you should have done. 629 00:26:09,882 --> 00:26:11,415 I know, but I thought you'd take it away from me. 630 00:26:11,450 --> 00:26:13,017 - I would have. - And that's why I didn't tell you. 631 00:26:13,051 --> 00:26:14,619 You have to tell me. If you've had a relationship-- 632 00:26:14,653 --> 00:26:17,055 - It wasn't a relationship! We went out four times. - Maggie. 633 00:26:17,089 --> 00:26:18,823 And now he's the press aide to the governor of a state 634 00:26:18,857 --> 00:26:20,792 that gave us Barry Goldwater and a football team 635 00:26:20,826 --> 00:26:22,794 that couldn't find the end zone with an OnStar system. 636 00:26:22,829 --> 00:26:24,529 - You're a football fan? - No, I looked it up. 637 00:26:24,564 --> 00:26:25,797 Also, the fourth date didn't count. 638 00:26:25,831 --> 00:26:27,732 Is the fourth date relevant to the preinterview? 639 00:26:27,767 --> 00:26:30,102 - It might be. - What happened on the fourth date? 640 00:26:30,136 --> 00:26:32,304 We went back to his dorm room, 641 00:26:32,338 --> 00:26:34,373 - we started making out a little. - Uh-huh. 642 00:26:34,407 --> 00:26:36,208 And then there was a crazy banging on the door. 643 00:26:36,242 --> 00:26:38,243 It was his ex-girlfriend and she was shouting, 644 00:26:38,278 --> 00:26:39,912 "I know you've got some slut in there!" 645 00:26:39,946 --> 00:26:41,213 - I think she meant me. - Yeah. 646 00:26:41,247 --> 00:26:43,282 And Glenn said, "Get under the bed." 647 00:26:43,316 --> 00:26:45,117 - Not the closet? - No room in the closet. It's a dorm. 648 00:26:45,152 --> 00:26:48,087 So I got under the bed and he let his ex-girlfriend in, 649 00:26:48,122 --> 00:26:49,656 and the two of them patched things up. 650 00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:50,991 - With you under the bed. - Yeah. 651 00:26:51,025 --> 00:26:52,425 When you say they patched things up... 652 00:26:52,460 --> 00:26:54,361 - Yeah. - you're saying... 653 00:26:54,395 --> 00:26:56,230 Oh, my God. They did it, Jim! Okay? 654 00:26:56,264 --> 00:26:58,432 They settled their differences. 655 00:26:58,466 --> 00:27:00,634 And it didn't take very long, because as it turns out, 656 00:27:00,669 --> 00:27:02,203 - Glenn doesn't take very long. - Compared to who? 657 00:27:02,237 --> 00:27:05,072 ( stammering ) Compared to... other people 658 00:27:05,107 --> 00:27:06,607 and what I've read about in the movies. 659 00:27:06,642 --> 00:27:08,142 - It doesn't matter. - Five minutes? 660 00:27:08,176 --> 00:27:09,643 I didn't have a stopwatch on him, 661 00:27:09,677 --> 00:27:12,012 but I know it was under two minutes because I was holding my breath. 662 00:27:12,046 --> 00:27:14,414 - Is this important? - I don't know what's important yet. 663 00:27:14,448 --> 00:27:16,549 That's why I'm listening to this story. 664 00:27:18,652 --> 00:27:20,220 They finished, they left. 665 00:27:20,254 --> 00:27:22,555 - I waited a minute, and then I left. - Fast forward to the call. 666 00:27:22,590 --> 00:27:25,491 He says the governor would also like to talk about Arizona doing well 667 00:27:25,526 --> 00:27:27,360 on Obama's Race to the Finish initiative. 668 00:27:27,394 --> 00:27:29,596 - And you say to Glenn...? - "How appropriate for you." 669 00:27:29,630 --> 00:27:31,264 - Good one. - Thank you. 670 00:27:31,298 --> 00:27:33,266 You said you didn't inject any of your personal opinions-- 671 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,469 I didn't inject any personal opinions about the bill. 672 00:27:35,503 --> 00:27:37,037 Okay, first of all, the initiative is called 673 00:27:37,071 --> 00:27:39,072 Race to the Top, not Race to the Finish. 674 00:27:39,107 --> 00:27:41,609 I know. That's why I was so sure God was on my side-- 675 00:27:41,643 --> 00:27:43,644 because He teed me up so perfectly. 676 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:46,480 - And second, why didn't he-- - Why didn't he get her out of the room? 677 00:27:46,515 --> 00:27:48,482 It was 2:00 in the morning. What was he gonna say? 678 00:27:48,517 --> 00:27:50,618 "Why don't we go somewhere private and talk"? 679 00:27:50,652 --> 00:27:52,420 They were in his dorm room. He was stuck. 680 00:27:52,454 --> 00:27:54,121 - There were no options. - You had an option. 681 00:27:54,156 --> 00:27:55,823 You could have not hidden under the bed. 682 00:27:55,857 --> 00:27:58,659 I made a quick decision. It may have been the wrong one... 683 00:27:58,693 --> 00:28:01,525 - "It may have been"-- - but once I made it, I had to commit to it. 684 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,227 And I will tell you something else. 685 00:28:03,261 --> 00:28:06,030 He waited this long to tell us he was bailing on purpose 686 00:28:06,064 --> 00:28:07,964 so we'd get slammed on getting a replacement. 687 00:28:07,999 --> 00:28:10,099 - Do you think? - Are you being sarcastic? 688 00:28:10,134 --> 00:28:12,669 Because, yes, I'm pretty sure he did this on purpose. 689 00:28:14,071 --> 00:28:16,072 We've got less than 90 minutes to find someone 690 00:28:16,106 --> 00:28:18,774 to defend SB 1070 and get them to a studio. 691 00:28:18,808 --> 00:28:20,842 But after the show, a bunch of us are going over 692 00:28:20,877 --> 00:28:22,410 to the Emerald City to see the Wizard-- 693 00:28:22,445 --> 00:28:24,445 - and maybe he can give you some-- - My brain is fine. 694 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,047 You give me the SATs right now and I'll take them. 695 00:28:26,081 --> 00:28:29,717 Maybe he'll give you some courage is what I was going to say. 696 00:28:29,752 --> 00:28:32,153 Please! 697 00:28:32,187 --> 00:28:34,588 Tell me what to do. 698 00:28:34,622 --> 00:28:37,791 Grab some bookers, whoever's free, and come into the conference room. 699 00:28:37,825 --> 00:28:39,660 - This is an emergency now. - We'll be right there. 700 00:28:39,695 --> 00:28:40,828 - Maggie. - Yeah. 701 00:28:40,863 --> 00:28:44,899 I don't know anyone in the world 702 00:28:44,933 --> 00:28:47,202 who would have hidden under the bed. 703 00:28:50,239 --> 00:28:53,175 Martin, Tamara, Kendra, I need some help. 704 00:28:53,209 --> 00:28:56,278 - What do you need? - No, I can-- it's no big deal. 705 00:28:56,312 --> 00:28:58,280 I just need-- ( wheezes ) 706 00:28:58,314 --> 00:28:59,882 Kendra, Tamara, Martin! 707 00:28:59,916 --> 00:29:02,517 - Everything all right? - I can fix it. 708 00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:06,320 Okay. 709 00:29:06,355 --> 00:29:09,490 - Mackenzie: What?! - ( phone clacks ) 710 00:29:13,862 --> 00:29:16,731 - What the hell is going on? - We lost Jan Brewer. 711 00:29:16,798 --> 00:29:18,432 What? God! 712 00:29:18,467 --> 00:29:19,867 Get someone else from Brewer's office. 713 00:29:19,902 --> 00:29:22,070 - No, we've lost the whole office. - What? 714 00:29:22,104 --> 00:29:24,605 - No one from Brewer's office is gonna be coming. - What the hell happened? 715 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,808 - This is my fault. - Look, I got into a stupid argument 716 00:29:26,842 --> 00:29:28,476 with a press aide on the phone 717 00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:30,345 and now he's giving the governor's office 718 00:29:30,379 --> 00:29:32,113 to everybody but us so he can stick it to me. 719 00:29:32,148 --> 00:29:33,581 Are you freaking kidding me? 720 00:29:33,616 --> 00:29:36,017 - No, wait. Mac-- - No. That is what happened. 721 00:29:36,051 --> 00:29:39,153 Day side's been running Jan Brewer promos for the last six hours. 722 00:29:39,188 --> 00:29:42,324 - Who's replacing her? - Well, we're obviously late to the buffet, 723 00:29:42,358 --> 00:29:45,461 so we basically had to book people who were close to a satellite dish. 724 00:29:45,495 --> 00:29:47,296 - Oh, boy. - Dr. Dwayne Sotter. 725 00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:49,599 He's an adjunct professor at the University of Phoenix. 726 00:29:49,633 --> 00:29:53,103 The University of Phoenix is an online university. It's not in Arizona. 727 00:29:53,137 --> 00:29:55,104 - But you can understand our mistake, right? - No. 728 00:29:55,139 --> 00:29:56,707 He's written several books on immigration policy. 729 00:29:56,741 --> 00:29:59,076 - Have I heard of any of them? - They were self-published. 730 00:29:59,110 --> 00:30:01,545 "This Land is My Land," "Ambushed," 731 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:05,316 and "Don't Make Me Press One for English in My Own Country." 732 00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:07,217 - That is quite a sacrifice. - Tamara. 733 00:30:07,252 --> 00:30:08,585 We've got a former Miss Oklahoma 734 00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:10,754 who was second runner-up in the Miss USA Pageant this year. 735 00:30:10,788 --> 00:30:12,255 She claims she was denied first runner-up 736 00:30:12,290 --> 00:30:14,290 because of an answer she gave regarding illegal immigration. 737 00:30:14,325 --> 00:30:15,892 - Ah, the real victim. - Martin. 738 00:30:15,927 --> 00:30:17,527 Right, the third is Ross Fernholm, 739 00:30:17,562 --> 00:30:19,462 - a former state patrolman who was part... - Don't say it. 740 00:30:19,497 --> 00:30:21,230 of a border control group called the "Citizens Militia." 741 00:30:21,265 --> 00:30:23,633 Is this or isn't this the exact opposite 742 00:30:23,667 --> 00:30:25,134 of who I asked you to book? 743 00:30:25,169 --> 00:30:26,469 God damn it, Jim! What the hell were you-- 744 00:30:26,504 --> 00:30:28,371 - This is all-- - All gonna be fine. 745 00:30:28,406 --> 00:30:31,374 - Jim is taking the fall-- - For exactly what I'm supposed to take the fall for. 746 00:30:31,408 --> 00:30:33,176 I don't know what the hell dance you two are doing. 747 00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:35,578 Don't book these guys. Scrap the segment. 748 00:30:35,612 --> 00:30:37,680 They'll say we didn't have anyone defending it. 749 00:30:41,752 --> 00:30:44,654 Let's prep them the best we can and have Will carry them, okay? 750 00:30:44,688 --> 00:30:47,290 He'll just carry them. 751 00:30:47,324 --> 00:30:48,824 I'll go and tell him. 752 00:30:48,859 --> 00:30:50,626 - I should be the one to tell him. - Jim: Maggie-- 753 00:30:50,661 --> 00:30:52,128 - He's gonna fire somebody. - God knows he should. 754 00:30:52,162 --> 00:30:54,363 - He will. - He won't. 755 00:30:55,632 --> 00:30:57,266 He won't. 756 00:30:59,369 --> 00:31:01,037 Guys, he won't. 757 00:31:01,905 --> 00:31:03,873 Hang on. 758 00:31:03,941 --> 00:31:06,276 Dome of silence. I have to-- 759 00:31:07,812 --> 00:31:10,848 Are people here under the impression that Will is an ass? 760 00:31:16,421 --> 00:31:18,922 Okay, you're wrong. You know? 761 00:31:18,957 --> 00:31:21,225 You're just wrong and it's an injustice. 762 00:31:21,259 --> 00:31:24,429 He's-- he'd throw himself in front of a train 763 00:31:24,463 --> 00:31:26,464 for anyone in this-- 764 00:31:26,498 --> 00:31:28,766 - Is Will in his office? - He's at that thing uptown. 765 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,637 I'm sending him an e-mail because I-- I can't 766 00:31:32,671 --> 00:31:36,073 live with this stupid promise I made 767 00:31:36,108 --> 00:31:41,078 and, you know, completely wrong information. 768 00:31:41,113 --> 00:31:43,848 I'm nipping this thing in the bud right now. 769 00:31:43,883 --> 00:31:46,017 And "send." 770 00:31:46,052 --> 00:31:50,054 Will is the best man I've ever-- 771 00:31:50,089 --> 00:31:53,091 ( cell phones ringing ) 772 00:31:58,231 --> 00:32:00,434 - What just happened? - I got a staff e-mail from you. 773 00:32:00,469 --> 00:32:02,703 - Me, too. - I sent the e-mail to Sloan, I mean Will. 774 00:32:02,738 --> 00:32:04,872 Ah. Oh, my God, I sent it to Sloan. 775 00:32:04,907 --> 00:32:06,708 I think the S in "Sloan" became "staff." 776 00:32:06,742 --> 00:32:08,543 You used the asterisk. 777 00:32:12,014 --> 00:32:14,015 No. 778 00:32:14,050 --> 00:32:18,587 No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no! 779 00:32:18,655 --> 00:32:20,990 Everybody listen! Listen to me right now. 780 00:32:21,024 --> 00:32:23,092 ( cell phone rings ) 781 00:32:23,126 --> 00:32:24,927 ( staff gasps ) 782 00:32:24,961 --> 00:32:26,695 - Man: Oh, man. - Man #2: Oh! 783 00:32:31,367 --> 00:32:32,734 That was unusual. 784 00:32:32,769 --> 00:32:34,736 I want everyone to delete the e-mail you just received. 785 00:32:34,771 --> 00:32:37,439 Delete it right now without reading it. Honor system. 786 00:32:37,473 --> 00:32:40,708 And then I need someone to sneak into Will's office 787 00:32:40,742 --> 00:32:42,777 and delete the e-mail from his inbox. 788 00:32:42,811 --> 00:32:45,279 If it's password-protected, 789 00:32:45,313 --> 00:32:49,149 I need you to take a baseball bat and smash-- 790 00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:57,490 - You told me he was uptown. - I guess he came back. 791 00:32:59,459 --> 00:33:02,462 - We stood in my office... - Will. 792 00:33:02,496 --> 00:33:05,798 this morning, and I said under no circumstances 793 00:33:05,833 --> 00:33:09,002 do I want anyone here to know what happened. 794 00:33:09,036 --> 00:33:12,204 And you said yes, and yes again. 795 00:33:12,239 --> 00:33:14,840 And it-- it really-- 796 00:33:14,875 --> 00:33:17,910 it really seemed like you understood. 797 00:33:17,944 --> 00:33:21,113 - And then you sent an e-mail... - It was a complete-- 798 00:33:21,147 --> 00:33:25,250 - explaining in some detail what happened. - Please, please let me-- 799 00:33:25,284 --> 00:33:28,186 And then you copied 47 reporters on it. 800 00:33:28,221 --> 00:33:29,521 Can we go into your office? 801 00:33:29,555 --> 00:33:31,790 You know how sometimes something happens in an instant 802 00:33:31,824 --> 00:33:34,827 that's so astonishing you just shut down? 803 00:33:34,861 --> 00:33:39,698 - Of course, that's underst-- - That doesn't fucking happen to me! 804 00:33:41,067 --> 00:33:43,468 - We need some privacy. - Really?! 805 00:33:43,503 --> 00:33:45,137 We're going to go into Will's office, 806 00:33:45,171 --> 00:33:48,173 but I want everyone to delete the e-mail. 807 00:33:48,208 --> 00:33:50,175 Mac, I think I just accidentally forwarded it to corporate. 808 00:33:50,209 --> 00:33:52,511 - ( staff gasping ) - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey, hey. 809 00:33:52,545 --> 00:33:54,713 - Why is this happening? - I was sending an e-mail to you, 810 00:33:54,747 --> 00:33:56,181 but accidentally sent it to Sloan Sabbith, 811 00:33:56,215 --> 00:33:57,749 but I either did or didn't type the asterisk 812 00:33:57,784 --> 00:33:59,351 and it went to staff instead of Sloan. 813 00:33:59,385 --> 00:34:01,053 Why were you sending it at all? 814 00:34:01,087 --> 00:34:03,522 Because-- and here's where I think I'm on firmer ground-- 815 00:34:03,556 --> 00:34:06,358 she thought that you cheated on me 816 00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:09,194 and that you were an ass, which is not true. 817 00:34:09,229 --> 00:34:10,496 I'm changing minds, Will. 818 00:34:10,531 --> 00:34:12,031 I'm changing minds all over the place. 819 00:34:12,066 --> 00:34:13,866 - Get in there! - Sure. 820 00:34:17,071 --> 00:34:19,873 She thought you cheated on me and she told me other people thought so, too. 821 00:34:19,907 --> 00:34:22,175 I couldn't take that, but I do take 100% 822 00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:23,910 of the responsibility for what just happened. 823 00:34:23,945 --> 00:34:25,845 Who else would be responsible? 824 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:27,246 Arizona prison stats. 825 00:34:27,281 --> 00:34:29,182 - Thank you. - No one. I'm sorry. 826 00:34:29,216 --> 00:34:31,416 - Don't mention it. - That's-- 827 00:34:31,451 --> 00:34:34,019 I'm really impressed that you're forgiving me so fast. 828 00:34:34,054 --> 00:34:36,689 - I would have-- - No, what you heard was, "Don't mention it. 829 00:34:36,723 --> 00:34:38,223 It's no problem. Don't worry about it." 830 00:34:38,258 --> 00:34:40,025 What I said was, "Don't mention it ever." 831 00:34:40,059 --> 00:34:41,526 - Will-- - Ever, Mac! 832 00:34:41,561 --> 00:34:43,428 - Hospital costs and health care. - How current? 833 00:34:43,462 --> 00:34:44,997 - Fiscal 2009. - Thank you. 834 00:34:45,031 --> 00:34:46,732 I understand. 835 00:34:46,766 --> 00:34:48,834 One more thing. 836 00:34:48,868 --> 00:34:51,370 We lost Jan Brewer and had to replace her 837 00:34:51,404 --> 00:34:54,473 with a crazy professor at a website, a member of the Citizens Militia, 838 00:34:54,507 --> 00:34:56,676 and a former second runner-up in the Miss USA Pageant. 839 00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:58,411 It's going to be fine. You'll carry them. 840 00:34:58,445 --> 00:35:00,212 They'll barely have to speak. 841 00:35:02,516 --> 00:35:04,083 Now you've shut down, right? 842 00:35:04,117 --> 00:35:06,285 Ha ha. 843 00:35:06,319 --> 00:35:07,786 Who fucked up? 844 00:35:07,821 --> 00:35:11,023 - Now, you know I'm not going to tell you that. - Okay. 845 00:35:13,460 --> 00:35:15,294 - 98%. - What? 846 00:35:15,328 --> 00:35:18,630 I take 98% of the responsibility, not 100%. 847 00:35:18,664 --> 00:35:20,565 Is that right? 848 00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:22,533 Listen... 849 00:35:23,835 --> 00:35:25,669 you were in love from the day you met me, 850 00:35:25,704 --> 00:35:27,138 and for two years you were the man 851 00:35:27,172 --> 00:35:28,606 of any woman's dreams, you know? 852 00:35:28,641 --> 00:35:33,311 You'd have these ways of doing things. 853 00:35:35,447 --> 00:35:37,448 It doesn't matter. 854 00:35:37,482 --> 00:35:40,951 I didn't know that I was in love with you, too, until-- 855 00:35:40,986 --> 00:35:42,653 You cheated on me with your ex-boyfriend. 856 00:35:42,687 --> 00:35:44,554 That's right! That's what happened. 857 00:35:44,589 --> 00:35:47,491 I didn't know how I felt about you until I was with him again. 858 00:35:47,525 --> 00:35:50,093 So technically, I wasn't cheating on the man I loved, 859 00:35:50,128 --> 00:35:52,629 I was falling in love with the man I loved. 860 00:35:52,663 --> 00:35:55,532 - While cheating on him with your ex-boyfriend. - Yes! 861 00:35:55,566 --> 00:35:57,868 But you're missing that technically it wasn't cheating, though. 862 00:35:57,902 --> 00:36:00,103 The more important thing is that I fell in love with you. 863 00:36:00,138 --> 00:36:01,605 At the end of a romantic comedy 864 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,140 that would make everything okay! 865 00:36:03,174 --> 00:36:05,242 There's something I've always been dying to ask you. 866 00:36:05,276 --> 00:36:08,712 - Ask anything. - Why did you tell me? 867 00:36:08,746 --> 00:36:12,549 - Because I wouldn't have been able to live with it. - Now I have to live with it. 868 00:36:12,583 --> 00:36:15,819 - Would you rather I'd have been dishonest? - Yes! 869 00:36:19,257 --> 00:36:22,659 Yes, I'd very much rather 870 00:36:22,694 --> 00:36:24,662 you hadn't told me. 871 00:36:29,501 --> 00:36:31,202 Still, 98%. 872 00:36:31,237 --> 00:36:32,971 ( door opens ) 873 00:36:33,005 --> 00:36:35,006 I'm sorry, we have to do the final rundown. 874 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,442 We're coming. 875 00:36:37,476 --> 00:36:40,412 The first runner-up wasn't available? 876 00:36:44,651 --> 00:36:46,819 Herb: 60 seconds to VTR. 877 00:36:46,853 --> 00:36:48,688 Are we getting the opening in HD or SD? 878 00:36:48,722 --> 00:36:50,723 Herb: Where's it coming to me? Which router? 879 00:36:50,757 --> 00:36:52,391 Roll it in from the room. 880 00:36:52,425 --> 00:36:54,427 Tess. 881 00:36:54,461 --> 00:36:56,328 There's an SOT I want in the D block-- 882 00:36:56,363 --> 00:36:57,797 Sarah Palin's comment on the White House 883 00:36:57,831 --> 00:36:59,365 not returning calls from the Dutch, 884 00:36:59,399 --> 00:37:01,233 except she calls Holland Norway. 885 00:37:01,268 --> 00:37:02,701 Find it, give it to Jake. 886 00:37:02,736 --> 00:37:04,903 - Don't run it past Mac. - Yes, sir. 887 00:37:06,606 --> 00:37:08,541 Did we go to Afghanistan because you cheated on Will? 888 00:37:08,575 --> 00:37:11,110 - Can I get a little privacy? - Not until you learn how to send an e-mail. 889 00:37:11,144 --> 00:37:13,680 - You got invaluable experience. - I got shot in the ass. 890 00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:15,481 Well, be grateful you weren't facing the other direction. 891 00:37:15,516 --> 00:37:17,450 Herb: 30 seconds out. 892 00:37:19,854 --> 00:37:21,589 I've been cheated on. 893 00:37:22,824 --> 00:37:25,192 One time literally right on top of me. 894 00:37:25,227 --> 00:37:28,863 This happened because of me. No one should get fired. 895 00:37:28,897 --> 00:37:32,266 I can resign, and it's fine because Don wants me at 10:00. 896 00:37:33,502 --> 00:37:35,403 I hope you don't do that. 897 00:37:35,437 --> 00:37:37,572 I hope you stay here. 898 00:37:38,807 --> 00:37:40,375 Good show. 899 00:37:40,409 --> 00:37:42,877 Herb: Can you move his BlackBerry off the desk? 900 00:37:42,911 --> 00:37:45,045 - I can see it in the shot. - Will. 901 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,449 Can you move your BlackBerry off the desk? 902 00:37:48,483 --> 00:37:50,118 Men: Oh! 903 00:37:50,152 --> 00:37:52,520 That wouldn't have happened if he'd had one of those rubber protectors. 904 00:37:52,554 --> 00:37:54,355 - Herb: Does 3 have to change lenses? - Jake: No, we're good. 905 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:57,992 Herb: In four, three, two. Roll VTR. 906 00:37:58,027 --> 00:38:01,463 ( music playing ) 907 00:38:09,405 --> 00:38:11,139 Good evening. I'm Will McAvoy. 908 00:38:11,173 --> 00:38:13,341 Deepwater Horizon continues to spill oil 909 00:38:13,376 --> 00:38:15,044 even as it sinks into the Gulf, 910 00:38:15,078 --> 00:38:17,179 a Republican candidate for Senate in Nevada advocates 911 00:38:17,213 --> 00:38:19,314 poor people paying doctors with chickens, 912 00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:22,250 and Greece activates a $45 billion aid package. 913 00:38:22,285 --> 00:38:24,553 But we begin tonight in Arizona 914 00:38:24,587 --> 00:38:28,257 where Governor Jan Brewer today signed into law SB 1070, 915 00:38:28,291 --> 00:38:30,292 which allows police to ask for documentation 916 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,029 from anyone suspected of being in the country illegally. 917 00:38:33,064 --> 00:38:34,931 Our coverage begins with Rachel Sachs 918 00:38:34,965 --> 00:38:36,833 at the statehouse in Phoenix. Rachel? 919 00:38:36,867 --> 00:38:39,302 I have no idea if the president even knows 920 00:38:39,337 --> 00:38:42,272 that an entire Exxon Valdez is spilling into the Gulf every four days. 921 00:38:42,306 --> 00:38:43,707 Are you really not sure? 922 00:38:43,741 --> 00:38:45,075 Because that would make you dumber than previous estimates. 923 00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:46,210 Would the two of you shut up? 924 00:38:46,244 --> 00:38:48,078 - Both: Sorry. - I miss my BlackBerry. 925 00:38:48,112 --> 00:38:50,714 Joining us tonight from Washington is Daniel Mendoza, 926 00:38:50,748 --> 00:38:52,949 Deputy Director of the National Council of La Raza, 927 00:38:52,984 --> 00:38:56,419 the largest Hispanic civil rights organization in the US. 928 00:38:56,454 --> 00:38:59,656 - Good evening, Mr. Mendoza. - Thanks for inviting me here to speak to you, Will. 929 00:38:59,690 --> 00:39:01,124 Let's jump right in. 930 00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:02,893 Estimates are that illegal immigrants 931 00:39:02,927 --> 00:39:05,796 cost Arizonans $2.7 billion a year. 932 00:39:05,830 --> 00:39:08,331 - Is that a problem worth fixing? - Of course it is. 933 00:39:08,366 --> 00:39:10,567 But if it's an economic issue, you need to consider that 934 00:39:10,601 --> 00:39:12,669 deporting 12 million undocumented workers 935 00:39:12,703 --> 00:39:17,073 will drain 2.5 trillion over the next 10 years from our GDP. 936 00:39:17,108 --> 00:39:20,410 Arizona residents overwhelmingly favor spending that money. 937 00:39:20,445 --> 00:39:21,778 Back in two minutes. 938 00:39:21,813 --> 00:39:23,680 - We don't have 1705. - Joey. 939 00:39:31,355 --> 00:39:33,156 Herb: 30 seconds out. 940 00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:36,059 - We know this next segment's going to be a problem. - Really? 941 00:39:36,094 --> 00:39:39,163 Why do you automatically assume that a hospitality management major 942 00:39:39,197 --> 00:39:43,534 won't be able to speak with sophistication about constitutional law? 943 00:39:43,569 --> 00:39:46,337 Make sure everybody knows this is what blowing it looks like. 944 00:39:46,371 --> 00:39:47,738 They know. 945 00:39:51,143 --> 00:39:52,710 Herb: 20 out. 946 00:39:52,744 --> 00:39:54,545 It's gonna be fine. 947 00:39:54,579 --> 00:39:57,148 The PhD is cool with illegal immigrants 948 00:39:57,182 --> 00:40:00,484 as long as they're checked for diseases like smallpox and gayness. 949 00:40:00,518 --> 00:40:03,154 I'm not sure I gave Will the best form of the argument. 950 00:40:04,289 --> 00:40:05,923 - Didn't we cure small-- - Yes. 951 00:40:05,957 --> 00:40:07,224 15 back. 952 00:40:07,258 --> 00:40:09,092 Does the militia guy really want his gun in the shot? 953 00:40:09,127 --> 00:40:10,327 I asked him that and he said, 954 00:40:10,361 --> 00:40:11,661 "This isn't a gun, it's a rifle. 955 00:40:11,695 --> 00:40:14,364 And this rifle has a name, and her name is Jenny." 956 00:40:14,398 --> 00:40:16,566 If you keep covering for people, I don't know who can do what. 957 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,434 - I wasn't covering. - You've got a crush on this girl. 958 00:40:18,468 --> 00:40:20,336 You told me to. And, no, I don't. 959 00:40:20,371 --> 00:40:22,605 In three, two. Cue Will. 960 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,040 Welcome back. 961 00:40:24,074 --> 00:40:26,443 We're discussing Arizona's immigration bill SB 1070, 962 00:40:26,477 --> 00:40:29,112 the Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act, 963 00:40:29,147 --> 00:40:31,748 which was signed into law today by Governor Jan Brewer. 964 00:40:31,783 --> 00:40:33,116 Joining me now by satellite 965 00:40:33,151 --> 00:40:35,385 are three strong supporters of the new law: 966 00:40:35,420 --> 00:40:37,054 Dr. Dwayne Sotter, an academic 967 00:40:37,088 --> 00:40:39,589 who's written extensively about immigration policy; 968 00:40:39,624 --> 00:40:41,925 Ross Fernholm, a former Arizona State Patrolman 969 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,795 who now runs the all-volunteer Independence Border Guards in Yuma; 970 00:40:44,830 --> 00:40:47,532 and Gwen Lalley, a junior at the University of New Mexico 971 00:40:47,566 --> 00:40:50,435 and the second runner-up in last night's Miss USA Pageant, 972 00:40:50,469 --> 00:40:52,437 who was asked about this very issue onstage 973 00:40:52,471 --> 00:40:54,573 and who believes her answer was what kept her from winning. 974 00:40:54,607 --> 00:40:55,874 Thank you all for being here. 975 00:40:55,908 --> 00:40:57,375 - Thank you. - Thank you. 976 00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:58,810 Will, I wanna be very clear-- 977 00:40:58,844 --> 00:41:00,212 my answer didn't keep me from winning, 978 00:41:00,246 --> 00:41:02,247 it kept me from being first runner-up. 979 00:41:02,281 --> 00:41:04,116 - And we're off. - Okay. Ahem. 980 00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:06,117 Dr. Sotter, this is your field of expertise, 981 00:41:06,152 --> 00:41:07,619 so let's kick it off with you. 982 00:41:07,653 --> 00:41:10,121 What do you say to those who argue that SB 1070 983 00:41:10,155 --> 00:41:13,891 is just targeting Americans on the basis of skin color and nationality alone? 984 00:41:13,925 --> 00:41:15,459 Absolutely, Will. 985 00:41:15,493 --> 00:41:17,228 What would you say to them? 986 00:41:17,262 --> 00:41:18,796 I'd say absolutely. 987 00:41:18,830 --> 00:41:20,865 The bill does not target religion or Muslims 988 00:41:20,899 --> 00:41:24,068 or homosexuality, just illegal Mexicans. 989 00:41:24,103 --> 00:41:26,604 Well, yes, but you would also say, right, 990 00:41:26,638 --> 00:41:29,106 that the state legislature has taken great pains 991 00:41:29,141 --> 00:41:32,109 to ensure that it isn't a racial profiling law, 992 00:41:32,143 --> 00:41:35,179 even going so far as to amend it to include the following language. 993 00:41:35,213 --> 00:41:38,082 - Go 24. - "Prosecutors would not investigate complaints 994 00:41:38,116 --> 00:41:40,418 based on race, color, or national origin." 995 00:41:40,452 --> 00:41:42,621 That's right, just Mexicans. 996 00:41:42,655 --> 00:41:45,823 - Dr. Sotter-- - Forgive me, Will. Latinos and Latinas. 997 00:41:45,858 --> 00:41:48,459 Will: And the argument that we don't want to be a country 998 00:41:48,494 --> 00:41:51,696 that pulls people over and asks for their papers based on how they look? 999 00:41:51,730 --> 00:41:53,397 Yeah, I don't like it any more than you do, 1000 00:41:53,432 --> 00:41:54,899 but that wouldn't be the case 1001 00:41:54,933 --> 00:41:58,202 if it weren't for the Latinos and Latinas, 1002 00:41:58,236 --> 00:42:01,505 el "criminelos," los "ilegatos." 1003 00:42:01,539 --> 00:42:03,340 That's not Spanish. 1004 00:42:03,374 --> 00:42:05,208 Ahem, Gwen, let's go to you. 1005 00:42:05,243 --> 00:42:06,877 You were asked last night about the immigration law 1006 00:42:06,911 --> 00:42:08,779 and you said it was an issue of states' rights. 1007 00:42:08,813 --> 00:42:10,313 And for that I paid a price. 1008 00:42:10,348 --> 00:42:13,583 That notwithstanding, you raised an interesting issue. 1009 00:42:13,618 --> 00:42:16,019 This law will surely be challenged in the courts 1010 00:42:16,054 --> 00:42:17,721 on constitutional grounds. 1011 00:42:17,756 --> 00:42:20,591 After all, states aren't allowed to create their own foreign policy, 1012 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,827 but it sounds like you've got the right answer to that. 1013 00:42:22,861 --> 00:42:26,197 - Which is...? - I'm a survivor and I don't know the word "quit." 1014 00:42:26,231 --> 00:42:27,499 - Probably other words, too. - Shut it. 1015 00:42:27,533 --> 00:42:29,067 Ahem, states aren't allowed to create 1016 00:42:29,101 --> 00:42:31,669 their own foreign policy, but...? 1017 00:42:34,807 --> 00:42:36,541 But this isn't about foreign policy, 1018 00:42:36,575 --> 00:42:38,209 it's about law enforcement. 1019 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,548 Decades of federal inaction have led to a dangerous 1020 00:42:43,583 --> 00:42:46,218 and unstable situation on Arizona's border. 1021 00:42:46,252 --> 00:42:49,488 And if the federal government can't, or won't, act to uphold the law, 1022 00:42:49,522 --> 00:42:52,658 then it's up to the states to exercise their power and fill that void. 1023 00:42:52,692 --> 00:42:55,294 I'm an Ameri-can, Will, not an Ameri-can't. 1024 00:42:55,328 --> 00:42:56,595 - Let's dump out of it. - Ross. 1025 00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:58,197 - Ross: Yes. - No, the whole thing, dump out of it. 1026 00:42:58,231 --> 00:42:59,598 I'm gonna go ahead and assume 1027 00:42:59,633 --> 00:43:01,567 that you're a supporter of Second Amendment rights, 1028 00:43:01,601 --> 00:43:04,737 - judging by the rifle you've placed in your live shot. - Yes, sir. 1029 00:43:04,772 --> 00:43:07,407 A frequent argument you hear from gun rights advocates 1030 00:43:07,441 --> 00:43:09,710 is that we don't need any more new laws; 1031 00:43:09,744 --> 00:43:13,380 what we need is a government to enforce the laws we already have. 1032 00:43:13,415 --> 00:43:15,916 Couldn't the same be said about immigration policy? 1033 00:43:15,951 --> 00:43:17,752 Yes, sir. 1034 00:43:17,786 --> 00:43:21,089 I'm saying you're a supporter of the new law, right? 1035 00:43:21,123 --> 00:43:23,258 - Ross: Yes, sir. - I can't take my eyes off of it. 1036 00:43:23,292 --> 00:43:25,026 Because? 1037 00:43:26,929 --> 00:43:30,297 Because laws that are unwieldy and unenforceable aren't laws at all. 1038 00:43:30,332 --> 00:43:31,798 - Ross: I don't follow. - Dump out of it. 1039 00:43:31,833 --> 00:43:33,367 - Ross: And, Mr. McAdoo-- - McAvoy. 1040 00:43:33,401 --> 00:43:35,001 - I beg your pardon? - Doesn't matter. 1041 00:43:35,036 --> 00:43:36,769 Why don't we just build a damn wall? 1042 00:43:36,804 --> 00:43:38,737 The Chinese built one and you can see it from space. 1043 00:43:38,772 --> 00:43:41,173 - Are the Chinese better than us? - No. 1044 00:43:41,207 --> 00:43:43,608 Although there's an old saying-- show me a 15-foot wall 1045 00:43:43,643 --> 00:43:45,277 and I'll show you a 16-foot ladder. 1046 00:43:45,311 --> 00:43:46,712 Then let's just build a 17-foot wall. 1047 00:43:46,746 --> 00:43:49,514 - Hell, build it 18 feet. - Will: Yes. Yep. 1048 00:43:49,549 --> 00:43:52,151 - But you see their point, right? - Whose point? 1049 00:43:52,185 --> 00:43:53,619 The people who build ladders. 1050 00:43:53,654 --> 00:43:56,089 - Ross: How about we get... - I'm sorry, okay? 1051 00:43:56,123 --> 00:43:58,991 - I'm sorry. Just dump out of it. - Will, can I jump in? 1052 00:43:59,026 --> 00:44:00,626 - She cannot jump in. - Jump on in, Gwen. 1053 00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:02,895 - Gwen: I think we're creating an environment... - Ugh! 1054 00:44:02,929 --> 00:44:04,730 where pageant contestants are afraid to speak their minds 1055 00:44:04,764 --> 00:44:07,633 when it comes to important questions and whatnot, 1056 00:44:07,667 --> 00:44:09,469 and that's not the America I grew up in. 1057 00:44:09,503 --> 00:44:11,872 You're 20 years old. It is the America you grew up in. 1058 00:44:11,906 --> 00:44:13,707 - Not in Oklahoma. - Especially in Oklahoma. 1059 00:44:13,741 --> 00:44:15,275 But we're gonna have to leave it there. 1060 00:44:15,310 --> 00:44:17,177 When we come back, Deepwater Horizon 1061 00:44:17,211 --> 00:44:18,979 sinks to the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico. 1062 00:44:19,013 --> 00:44:22,715 - ( music playing ) - I envy it. 1063 00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:25,284 ...with the White House now getting offers of assistance 1064 00:44:25,319 --> 00:44:27,753 from other countries to help plug the gushing well. 1065 00:44:27,788 --> 00:44:29,655 What's this new SOT? What's 907? 1066 00:44:29,690 --> 00:44:31,791 - Will gave it to me last minute. - What is it? 1067 00:44:31,825 --> 00:44:33,826 It's Sarah Palin on the spill. 1068 00:44:33,861 --> 00:44:35,795 Will: Former Alaskan governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin 1069 00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:37,764 weighed in earlier today on Fox News. 1070 00:44:37,798 --> 00:44:39,232 - Go 907. - ( button clicks ) 1071 00:44:39,266 --> 00:44:41,401 Well, then, what the federal government should have done 1072 00:44:41,435 --> 00:44:44,637 was accept the assistance of foreign countries, 1073 00:44:44,672 --> 00:44:47,507 of entrepreneurial Americans who have had solutions 1074 00:44:47,541 --> 00:44:49,309 - that they wanted presented. - Bill O'Reilly: Who? 1075 00:44:49,343 --> 00:44:52,212 Palin: They can't even get a phone call returned, Bill. 1076 00:44:52,246 --> 00:44:53,580 The Dutch. They are known-- 1077 00:44:53,614 --> 00:44:56,617 in the Norwegian-- they are known for dikes 1078 00:44:56,651 --> 00:44:59,420 and for cleaning up water and for dealing with spills. 1079 00:44:59,454 --> 00:45:01,956 They offered to help, and yet, no, they, too, 1080 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:04,225 with the proverbial can't even get a phone call back. 1081 00:45:04,259 --> 00:45:07,895 Okay, what she was saying was that... 1082 00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:09,330 All yours. 1083 00:45:09,364 --> 00:45:11,065 yes, okay, the Dutch live in Holland 1084 00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:12,600 and Norwegians live in Norway. 1085 00:45:12,634 --> 00:45:14,802 That's a mistake that-- people make that. 1086 00:45:14,836 --> 00:45:16,703 And I think Governor Palin was referring 1087 00:45:16,738 --> 00:45:18,972 to an old fairy tale about a boy-- 1088 00:45:19,006 --> 00:45:22,008 she was saying that people were offering to help, and that's great, 1089 00:45:22,042 --> 00:45:24,210 and phone calls will be returned. 1090 00:45:26,246 --> 00:45:27,847 ( elevator bell dings ) 1091 00:45:32,486 --> 00:45:35,354 Charlie: William Duncan McAvoy. 1092 00:45:35,389 --> 00:45:37,089 I think your parents wanted to make it 1093 00:45:37,124 --> 00:45:39,292 plainly understood that you are Anglo-Saxon. 1094 00:45:39,326 --> 00:45:41,893 I came up to personally apologize for tonight's show. 1095 00:45:41,928 --> 00:45:43,495 The show kind of got away from you a little. 1096 00:45:43,529 --> 00:45:44,963 It bordered on unprofessional. 1097 00:45:44,998 --> 00:45:46,531 Here's unprofessional, 1098 00:45:46,566 --> 00:45:48,067 here's the border, and here's professional, 1099 00:45:48,101 --> 00:45:49,835 and all the way back here is tonight's show. 1100 00:45:49,869 --> 00:45:53,171 - It was my fault. - Yeah. 1101 00:45:53,206 --> 00:45:55,741 Did you know I got an e-mail from Mackenzie today saying-- 1102 00:45:55,775 --> 00:45:58,611 God. Yeah. I forgot you were gonna see that. 1103 00:45:58,645 --> 00:46:00,313 Know how many people work at this company? 1104 00:46:00,347 --> 00:46:02,482 Well, in the cable news division, I guess about 350. 1105 00:46:02,516 --> 00:46:04,384 178,000. 1106 00:46:04,418 --> 00:46:08,421 Guys who sell jet engines got that e-mail. 1107 00:46:08,455 --> 00:46:10,957 By the way, they also own a tabloid magazine. 1108 00:46:10,991 --> 00:46:14,127 ( both laughing ) 1109 00:46:20,635 --> 00:46:22,435 I'm inured to it. It happened. 1110 00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:23,970 How's gossip gonna be worse? 1111 00:46:24,005 --> 00:46:27,440 It's been three years. Time hasn't helped? 1112 00:46:28,810 --> 00:46:30,343 No. 1113 00:46:30,378 --> 00:46:31,811 I wish you had told me. 1114 00:46:31,845 --> 00:46:33,246 What would you have said? 1115 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,315 - I'd have made you feel better. - How? 1116 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:37,584 I don't know. I do it all the time. 1117 00:46:39,921 --> 00:46:42,689 Get it together down there, fast. 1118 00:46:42,724 --> 00:46:46,793 - Got it. - One more thing. 1119 00:46:46,827 --> 00:46:49,596 Your daily private meetings with Reese are over. 1120 00:46:49,630 --> 00:46:51,932 Charlie, I respect you more than anyone I know, 1121 00:46:51,966 --> 00:46:54,601 but I'm the one sitting in that chair. 1122 00:46:55,536 --> 00:46:57,604 Yes, you are. 1123 00:47:00,508 --> 00:47:04,678 People across America are watching Arizona, 1124 00:47:04,712 --> 00:47:07,481 seeing how we implement this law, 1125 00:47:07,515 --> 00:47:10,083 ready to jump on even the slightest misstep. 1126 00:47:10,118 --> 00:47:13,854 Reporter: Many opponents aren't even waiting for that. 1127 00:47:13,888 --> 00:47:15,489 You need a drink? 1128 00:47:17,191 --> 00:47:18,725 Sure. 1129 00:47:18,759 --> 00:47:21,662 There's a karaoke bar down the street we go to. 1130 00:47:21,696 --> 00:47:24,498 Drinks and appetizers are $3 until 9:00. 1131 00:47:24,533 --> 00:47:25,967 It's 9:15. 1132 00:47:26,035 --> 00:47:28,637 We sent an intern down at 8:55 to order 30 drinks 1133 00:47:28,671 --> 00:47:31,239 and four platters of tuna jerky. 1134 00:47:31,273 --> 00:47:35,711 The downside's the karaoke, but it's the only place nearby that stays open late 1135 00:47:35,745 --> 00:47:37,713 unless you want to go to the theater district. 1136 00:47:37,748 --> 00:47:39,182 I'd have thought the downside would be 1137 00:47:39,216 --> 00:47:41,351 the four platters of tuna jerky. 1138 00:47:41,385 --> 00:47:43,286 It's an affordable dinner. 1139 00:47:45,290 --> 00:47:47,357 ( sighs ) Let's go. 1140 00:47:47,392 --> 00:47:49,026 ( patting ) 1141 00:47:54,999 --> 00:47:57,634 - Are you in or are you out? - What? 1142 00:47:57,669 --> 00:48:01,772 Are you in or are you out? 1143 00:48:01,806 --> 00:48:04,575 - Are we doing this, then? - I don't understand. Are you mad at me right now? 1144 00:48:04,609 --> 00:48:07,912 Palin. How did Palin get into the rundown? 1145 00:48:07,946 --> 00:48:09,447 First of all, I'm the EP. Don't slip-- 1146 00:48:09,481 --> 00:48:11,715 I'm the managing editor and I don't need your permission-- 1147 00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:14,952 Yes, you do, and you didn't ask for it 'cause you knew you wouldn't get it. 1148 00:48:14,986 --> 00:48:17,088 I made it clear that this show isn't going to participate 1149 00:48:17,122 --> 00:48:19,557 in the endless cycle of codependency between Palin... 1150 00:48:19,592 --> 00:48:21,359 - I know. - and insult to injury. 1151 00:48:21,394 --> 00:48:24,029 You twisted yourself into a Windsor knot to save her. 1152 00:48:24,063 --> 00:48:27,399 ( deep voice ) "I'm sure that what the governor meant 1153 00:48:27,433 --> 00:48:31,736 was that the Dutch living in Norwegia have good ideas. 1154 00:48:31,771 --> 00:48:33,538 And since she has an intimate knowledge 1155 00:48:33,573 --> 00:48:35,807 of all calls going into and out of the White House, 1156 00:48:35,841 --> 00:48:39,210 she's a credible source on whether the Swedisians 1157 00:48:39,245 --> 00:48:40,712 have gotten their message returned." 1158 00:48:40,746 --> 00:48:42,480 First of all, the impression-- uncanny. 1159 00:48:42,515 --> 00:48:45,250 I'm not the one who asked Victoria's Secret 1160 00:48:45,284 --> 00:48:47,452 to do five minutes of economic reporting every night. 1161 00:48:47,487 --> 00:48:50,522 Victoria's Secret has a PhD in economics from Duke 1162 00:48:50,556 --> 00:48:52,391 and is an adjunct professor at Columbia. 1163 00:48:52,425 --> 00:48:53,859 Are you in or are you out? 1164 00:48:53,893 --> 00:48:56,194 I have to give you credit for thinking you can chew me out 1165 00:48:56,229 --> 00:48:58,063 - on this particular-- - I'll chew you out on any particular day. 1166 00:48:58,097 --> 00:49:01,366 And by the way, when I say dump out of it, dump out of it. 1167 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,235 Reese got in your head. 1168 00:49:03,269 --> 00:49:05,370 And so you put the almost-one-term governor 1169 00:49:05,405 --> 00:49:07,273 of a state where nobody lives on our air. 1170 00:49:07,307 --> 00:49:10,510 - I'm don't believe I'm hearing-- - Yes, we fucked up 1171 00:49:10,544 --> 00:49:13,747 on a huge subject, but ours was a mistake. 1172 00:49:13,782 --> 00:49:16,083 Yours was fear, 1173 00:49:16,117 --> 00:49:19,053 a need to be loved by strangers and not our show. 1174 00:49:20,689 --> 00:49:22,891 Be the leader, Will. 1175 00:49:22,925 --> 00:49:26,294 Be the moral center of this show. 1176 00:49:26,329 --> 00:49:28,663 Be the integrity. 1177 00:49:31,633 --> 00:49:34,135 Today's Friday. 1178 00:49:34,169 --> 00:49:37,773 By Monday I want to know are you in or are you out? 1179 00:49:46,183 --> 00:49:48,351 Does anyone believe I just got-- 1180 00:49:48,385 --> 00:49:50,753 ( vacuum humming ) 1181 00:49:52,556 --> 00:49:55,659 ♪ I get the tinglies in a silly place ♪ 1182 00:49:55,693 --> 00:49:59,262 ♪ It starts in my toes and I crinkle my nose ♪ 1183 00:49:59,297 --> 00:50:03,033 ♪ Wherever it goes, I always know ♪ 1184 00:50:03,067 --> 00:50:05,869 ♪ You make me smile, please stay for a while... ♪ 1185 00:50:05,903 --> 00:50:07,371 We want to be the ones to do it. 1186 00:50:07,405 --> 00:50:09,740 We want to be the ones to do 2.0. 1187 00:50:09,774 --> 00:50:12,008 We can do this. 1188 00:50:16,348 --> 00:50:19,015 Give me a second. ( clears throat ) 1189 00:50:25,456 --> 00:50:27,356 How you doing? 1190 00:50:27,391 --> 00:50:29,692 I'm doing all right, all rings consisted-- 1191 00:50:29,726 --> 00:50:30,926 considered. ( laughs ) 1192 00:50:30,961 --> 00:50:33,562 ( Don laughs ) How much have you had to drink? 1193 00:50:33,597 --> 00:50:36,265 I won't lie to you, Don. 1194 00:50:36,299 --> 00:50:38,100 - Yes? - What? 1195 00:50:38,134 --> 00:50:40,202 You said, "I won't lie to you, Don," and then you didn't say anything else. 1196 00:50:40,236 --> 00:50:41,903 - I've had a drink. - A whole one? 1197 00:50:41,938 --> 00:50:44,038 - Yeah. - That's too much for you. 1198 00:50:44,073 --> 00:50:47,007 - It is not. - Come to 10:00. 1199 00:50:47,042 --> 00:50:49,844 I really appreciate your offer, 1200 00:50:49,878 --> 00:50:54,015 but I think you're offering it because I'm your girlfriend. 1201 00:50:54,049 --> 00:50:56,083 What's wrong with that? 1202 00:50:56,118 --> 00:50:57,919 Owww. 1203 00:50:57,953 --> 00:51:00,288 You're supposed to say, "No, I'm not." 1204 00:51:00,322 --> 00:51:02,389 You're just inexperienced. I will coach you up. 1205 00:51:02,424 --> 00:51:04,959 I want to be a part of what Will and Mackenzie are trying to do. 1206 00:51:04,993 --> 00:51:08,829 - Will and Mackenzie are gonna fail. - Jesus Christ, what's-- 1207 00:51:08,863 --> 00:51:12,466 just because the scenery fell down doesn't mean it's not a good play. 1208 00:51:12,501 --> 00:51:15,270 Yeah, I don't know what that meant, but I'm not talking about tonight. 1209 00:51:15,304 --> 00:51:17,472 Nobody's gonna watch a classroom. 1210 00:51:17,506 --> 00:51:20,608 They'll either be bored or infuriated and you will bleed viewers. 1211 00:51:20,642 --> 00:51:22,710 And my show with Elliot will get moved to 8:00. 1212 00:51:22,745 --> 00:51:25,513 And at that point, I don't know that I'll be able to help you. 1213 00:51:25,547 --> 00:51:27,748 - It was your fault. - Let's break up. 1214 00:51:27,783 --> 00:51:30,351 - What did I do now? - You were too supportive. 1215 00:51:30,385 --> 00:51:33,520 - Maggie-- - I feel myself suffocating from your support. 1216 00:51:33,555 --> 00:51:35,055 You want truth or support? 1217 00:51:35,089 --> 00:51:37,191 Did you think I didn't know I fucked up? 1218 00:51:37,225 --> 00:51:38,926 I've been saying it. 1219 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,996 I have $45,000 in student loans to pay off, 1220 00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:44,798 I spend three weeks' take-home 1221 00:51:44,832 --> 00:51:47,133 on half a one-bedroom apartment the size of a toolshed, 1222 00:51:47,167 --> 00:51:50,169 and I'm sitting alone at a bar with a drink that was made an hour ago. 1223 00:51:50,203 --> 00:51:52,071 A good day is when I have quarters for a dryer. 1224 00:51:52,105 --> 00:51:54,273 A bad day is when I blow a newscast. 1225 00:51:54,307 --> 00:51:57,576 That's my spectrum. 1226 00:51:57,610 --> 00:52:00,979 Support is what I wanted right then. 1227 00:52:01,013 --> 00:52:03,314 And I think you're rooting for Will to fail. 1228 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:06,184 - You just said it would be in your best interest-- - Listen-- 1229 00:52:06,218 --> 00:52:09,220 And I know he's not the cuddliest guy in the world, 1230 00:52:09,255 --> 00:52:11,656 but he is trying to do good 1231 00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:13,925 and he's risking a lot to do it, and you and Reese-- 1232 00:52:13,959 --> 00:52:16,927 Yeah, yeah. Let's break up. 1233 00:52:16,962 --> 00:52:18,997 Don't-- no, don't go like this. 1234 00:52:19,031 --> 00:52:21,666 I'm s-- I'm sorry. I said the wrong thing. 1235 00:52:22,601 --> 00:52:24,469 Don... 1236 00:52:25,471 --> 00:52:28,272 Oh, I'm on fire today. 1237 00:52:30,209 --> 00:52:33,077 - Evening, Mr. McAvoy. - Good evening, Manny. 1238 00:52:34,847 --> 00:52:36,514 We know how to live with our neighbors here. 1239 00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:38,716 - What's that? - Your show tonight. 1240 00:52:38,751 --> 00:52:41,686 I-- 1241 00:52:48,260 --> 00:52:50,361 ( music playing ) 1242 00:53:17,687 --> 00:53:20,489 ♪ Two jumps in a week ♪ 1243 00:53:20,523 --> 00:53:23,324 - ♪ I bet you think... ♪ - You have to do a shot. 1244 00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:25,226 I really only drink when I'm scared. 1245 00:53:25,261 --> 00:53:29,164 I would like to have a word with you right here and right now. 1246 00:53:29,198 --> 00:53:32,134 ( laughs ) 1247 00:53:34,437 --> 00:53:36,038 Yes, ma'am. 1248 00:53:36,072 --> 00:53:38,874 Don't "Yes, ma'am" me with your sheepish charm. 1249 00:53:38,908 --> 00:53:41,076 Would you like to go someplace private? 1250 00:53:41,110 --> 00:53:42,745 I-- you covered for me. 1251 00:53:42,779 --> 00:53:44,880 - Don't worry about it. - I wasn't thanking you. 1252 00:53:44,914 --> 00:53:47,715 You and Don-- why do you think I need protecting? 1253 00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:50,151 You both like the fantasy of a girl in distress? 1254 00:53:50,185 --> 00:53:52,420 - How about I put you in a cab? - I take the subway. 1255 00:53:52,454 --> 00:53:54,955 - Why do you think I need prot-- - I don't. 1256 00:53:54,990 --> 00:53:56,891 But I cover for you, Mac covers for me, 1257 00:53:56,925 --> 00:53:59,026 Will covers for everybody, Charlie covers for Will. 1258 00:53:59,061 --> 00:54:00,694 How come nobody's yelling at me? 1259 00:54:00,729 --> 00:54:02,329 - You know how bad you screwed up, right? - Yes. 1260 00:54:02,364 --> 00:54:04,498 - Is there anyone who feels worse than you do? - No. 1261 00:54:04,532 --> 00:54:07,034 Then I doubt it'll ever happen again. 1262 00:54:08,136 --> 00:54:09,637 Let me give you money for a cab. 1263 00:54:09,671 --> 00:54:13,207 No, I have to go to Don's apartment and apologize. 1264 00:54:13,241 --> 00:54:16,744 - For what? - For suggesting he would-- 1265 00:54:16,778 --> 00:54:19,714 you know, for asking-- 1266 00:54:19,748 --> 00:54:21,316 I'll think of it on the way. 1267 00:54:21,350 --> 00:54:24,386 We break up, I apologize, everything's fine. 1268 00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:26,288 Sounds like a super-healthy relationship. 1269 00:54:26,322 --> 00:54:28,524 - I'd fight for it. - I will fight for it. 1270 00:54:28,558 --> 00:54:31,160 And I'll make it work through sheer force of will, 1271 00:54:31,194 --> 00:54:33,396 just like Mackenzie will with Will 1272 00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:35,698 and just like I made the immigration segment work. 1273 00:54:35,732 --> 00:54:38,034 Will and Mackenzie are going to kill each other 1274 00:54:38,068 --> 00:54:39,702 and the immigration segment was a train wreck. 1275 00:54:39,736 --> 00:54:41,404 You should shut up more than you do. 1276 00:54:41,438 --> 00:54:43,439 Do people tell you that? 1277 00:54:43,474 --> 00:54:44,641 No. 1278 00:54:44,675 --> 00:54:46,810 You're being polite. 1279 00:54:49,981 --> 00:54:52,749 I still don't know why I'm being mean to you. 1280 00:54:54,118 --> 00:54:56,086 Tess? ( snaps fingers ) 1281 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,122 - Would you? - Yeah. 1282 00:55:00,158 --> 00:55:01,625 Sorry. 1283 00:55:01,660 --> 00:55:04,495 Hang on, all of you. 1284 00:55:05,464 --> 00:55:07,164 I'm your senior producer. 1285 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,167 Fuck up again like this, I'm gonna get mad. 1286 00:55:14,005 --> 00:55:15,372 That's it. 1287 00:55:15,407 --> 00:55:17,608 Take her to Don's place. 1288 00:55:23,282 --> 00:55:26,751 - That was so awesome. - Thank you. 1289 00:55:26,786 --> 00:55:28,954 - Do a shot. - No. 1290 00:55:29,890 --> 00:55:33,526 ( cell phone ringing ) 1291 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,127 - Hello? - Neal, it's Will. 1292 00:55:35,162 --> 00:55:38,531 - I hope you don't mind my calling so late. - No. 1293 00:55:38,565 --> 00:55:41,301 I got your number from-- you know, there's a booklet. 1294 00:55:41,335 --> 00:55:43,203 - The office directory. - Yeah. 1295 00:55:43,237 --> 00:55:44,671 The guy you found in Spokane, 1296 00:55:44,706 --> 00:55:46,073 I want you to get in touch with him 1297 00:55:46,107 --> 00:55:47,674 and tell him that you're gonna pay for a cab 1298 00:55:47,709 --> 00:55:49,109 to take him to and from work. 1299 00:55:49,144 --> 00:55:51,512 He should send you the receipts, then give them to me. 1300 00:55:51,546 --> 00:55:53,982 Will-- 1301 00:55:54,016 --> 00:55:55,817 come on, let me post this on your blog. 1302 00:55:55,851 --> 00:55:57,386 - No. - Will-- 1303 00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:00,222 - Keep my name out of it. - Yes, sir. 1304 00:56:00,256 --> 00:56:02,124 Is Mackenzie around there? 1305 00:56:02,158 --> 00:56:03,759 Yeah. 1306 00:56:03,794 --> 00:56:07,196 - Can you put her on the phone? - Sure. 1307 00:56:12,937 --> 00:56:15,038 It's-- it's Will. 1308 00:56:20,511 --> 00:56:23,647 I'm sorry... about everything. 1309 00:56:23,681 --> 00:56:25,882 I'm just so sorry. 1310 00:56:25,916 --> 00:56:27,951 - There's no way I can even-- - I'm in. 1311 00:56:27,985 --> 00:56:31,388 - What? - I'm in. I'll see you on Monday. 1312 00:56:34,926 --> 00:56:37,762 - Are you still gonna worry about the ratings? - Yes. 1313 00:56:37,796 --> 00:56:40,731 - Still gonna worry about being popular? - Yeah. 1314 00:56:40,765 --> 00:56:42,299 About being loved by strangers? 1315 00:56:42,334 --> 00:56:45,136 Are you gonna keep asking me questions that all mean the same thing? 1316 00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:47,806 Till I get the right answer. 1317 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,741 I'm in. 1318 00:56:51,878 --> 00:56:53,679 There it is. 1319 00:57:02,089 --> 00:57:07,627 ♪ Don't leave me high ♪ 1320 00:57:07,661 --> 00:57:11,930 ♪ Don't leave me dry. ♪ 1321 00:57:13,938 --> 00:57:24,589 Sync & corrections by honeybunny www.addic7ed.com 9999 00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00 www.tvsubtitles.net 110376

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