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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,631 --> 00:00:08,425 I'm in China, to try to answer a question 2 00:00:08,509 --> 00:00:11,011 that could determine the fate of our planet. 3 00:00:11,094 --> 00:00:14,806 I hear China burns more coal than any other country, 4 00:00:14,890 --> 00:00:18,018 and that coal is the biggest contributor to climate change. 5 00:00:18,644 --> 00:00:20,729 It's making some Americans I know wonder 6 00:00:20,812 --> 00:00:24,942 why we should take climate change seriously if China isn't. 7 00:00:26,193 --> 00:00:28,403 But I've also heard a different story, 8 00:00:28,487 --> 00:00:33,033 that these days China is taking huge steps to reduce carbon emissions 9 00:00:33,116 --> 00:00:35,744 and keep the planet from melting. 10 00:00:36,411 --> 00:00:39,456 Which is it? I'm here to find out. 11 00:00:40,165 --> 00:00:42,584 It's no secret that the pollution here, 12 00:00:42,668 --> 00:00:45,087 caused mainly by the burning of coal, 13 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:47,631 has been horrible for decades. 14 00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:50,592 But I didn't realize how bad. 15 00:00:50,676 --> 00:00:53,804 The images at this art exhibit are arresting. 16 00:00:57,683 --> 00:00:59,101 Do you like these? 17 00:00:59,184 --> 00:01:01,603 You like that one. Do you know what these are? 18 00:01:01,687 --> 00:01:06,525 They're all medicine bottles for coughing or a lung issue. 19 00:01:06,608 --> 00:01:10,028 -Like this one is for kids. -Yeah. 20 00:01:10,112 --> 00:01:12,864 I meet a family who recently left Beijing. 21 00:01:12,948 --> 00:01:16,243 They tell me the pollution was making their son sick. 22 00:01:16,326 --> 00:01:18,579 So do you think you'll go back to Beijing? 23 00:01:18,662 --> 00:01:21,415 We love Beijing, all my family is still there. 24 00:01:21,498 --> 00:01:23,792 But he won't be able to go to school, 25 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:26,962 because he's got some lung issues. 26 00:01:27,045 --> 00:01:30,132 And how many days of schools do you think he had to miss? 27 00:01:30,215 --> 00:01:33,051 -One to two days per week. -One or two. 28 00:01:33,135 --> 00:01:37,556 So you actually had to keep him home one or two days a week? 29 00:01:37,639 --> 00:01:40,976 Yeah. Also, one or two times a month 30 00:01:41,059 --> 00:01:43,270 he needs to go to the hospital for treatment. 31 00:01:43,353 --> 00:01:44,855 That's unbelievable. 32 00:01:44,938 --> 00:01:48,191 Zachary. Why don't you show your mask in Beijing then. 33 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:50,277 -The special mask. -Oh my goodness. 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,780 When he was playing at home even that he has to actually wear. 35 00:01:54,364 --> 00:01:56,867 -Really? Is that you? -Yes. 36 00:01:56,950 --> 00:01:59,995 -Do you like it here in Hong Kong? -Yes. 37 00:02:00,078 --> 00:02:02,164 -Because? -Because, because. 38 00:02:02,247 --> 00:02:04,374 Because you don't have to wear one of these. 39 00:02:04,458 --> 00:02:07,461 Because you can go to school? That's more fun, right? 40 00:02:08,503 --> 00:02:11,173 I'm surprised to hear Zachary's family 41 00:02:11,256 --> 00:02:13,884 to return to Beijing sometime soon. 42 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:16,386 Their friends say the air quality is improving. 43 00:02:17,387 --> 00:02:18,847 Is this wishful thinking? 44 00:02:19,431 --> 00:02:22,392 Or is the air getting better because China is overcoming 45 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:23,852 its reliance on coal? 46 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:31,735 When I'm not busy acting on television 47 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:35,072 I'm a passionate advocate for a number of issues, 48 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:37,282 especially climate change. 49 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:41,036 I've come to Chicago to learn more about a fight brewing 50 00:02:41,119 --> 00:02:44,247 between big coal and the country's largest environmental group, 51 00:02:44,873 --> 00:02:47,876 the Sierra Club and their Beyond Coal campaign. 52 00:02:47,959 --> 00:02:51,254 Christine Nannicelli is right in the middle of it. 53 00:02:51,338 --> 00:02:54,049 Why was this a place that Sierra Club came to? 54 00:02:54,132 --> 00:02:58,679 Illinois is a coal state in a lot of ways this has been ground zero. 55 00:02:59,262 --> 00:03:01,848 Christine says that even though coal is on the decline, 56 00:03:01,932 --> 00:03:05,977 due to the skyrocketing use of wind, solar, and cheap natural gas, 57 00:03:06,061 --> 00:03:09,231 the U.S. is still second only to China 58 00:03:09,314 --> 00:03:10,816 in the amount of coal it burns. 59 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:15,612 which is why the campaign is trying to close as many plants as it can. 60 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:19,908 Coal pollution threatens things that we all care about. 61 00:03:19,991 --> 00:03:24,579 Since 2010, over a third of the coal plants in the nation have closed, 62 00:03:24,663 --> 00:03:26,081 or are about to. 63 00:03:26,164 --> 00:03:28,458 Hundreds of workers are going to be out of a job. 64 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:32,212 But big coal, and its backers, are fighting back hard. 65 00:03:32,295 --> 00:03:34,339 The Supreme Court has temporarily blocked 66 00:03:34,423 --> 00:03:36,508 the administration's Clean Power Plan. 67 00:03:37,092 --> 00:03:39,177 Twenty-nine states are suing over the plan, 68 00:03:39,261 --> 00:03:42,097 which limits greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. 69 00:03:43,098 --> 00:03:44,933 Christine is meeting with the leaders 70 00:03:45,016 --> 00:03:47,185 of the Beyond Coal campaign in Chicago 71 00:03:47,269 --> 00:03:49,563 to figure out what comes next. 72 00:03:50,313 --> 00:03:51,773 These are 73 00:03:53,108 --> 00:03:55,569 the plants that we have to get announced to retire. 74 00:03:55,652 --> 00:03:59,698 This could be a map that doesn't change much over the next few years. 75 00:03:59,781 --> 00:04:02,492 If the coal industry has their way, we'll stop here. 76 00:04:02,576 --> 00:04:05,328 Illinois is one of the top five coal mining states 77 00:04:05,412 --> 00:04:07,622 and it has a lot of coal-fired power plants. 78 00:04:07,706 --> 00:04:10,584 So getting Illinois right is critical to our overall success. 79 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:13,879 One of the big players here is NRG. Let's talk about them. 80 00:04:13,962 --> 00:04:16,631 That company is trying to squeeze as much money out 81 00:04:16,715 --> 00:04:19,217 of these coal plants before they have to retire them. 82 00:04:19,301 --> 00:04:21,803 That may be decades away, what will we do about that? 83 00:04:21,887 --> 00:04:23,263 Everything's on the line. 84 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:26,141 People's lives are on the line, the climate's on the line. 85 00:04:26,224 --> 00:04:28,143 Do you think we have a strategy here? 86 00:04:28,226 --> 00:04:29,978 We do. We do. 87 00:04:30,562 --> 00:04:33,565 If the Sierra Club is going to take on NRG, 88 00:04:33,648 --> 00:04:35,984 they've got their work cut out for them. 89 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:42,365 NRG energy is a massive company with a presence in 22 states. 90 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:47,412 It is one of the biggest burners of fossil fuels in the nation 91 00:04:47,496 --> 00:04:50,791 thanks in part to its large fleet of coal plants, 92 00:04:52,709 --> 00:04:56,087 including one that is nearly a century old 93 00:04:56,171 --> 00:04:59,508 in a city on Lake Michigan called Waukegan. 94 00:05:00,091 --> 00:05:01,635 Wow. 95 00:05:02,511 --> 00:05:05,514 NRG bought this coal plant in 2014. 96 00:05:06,097 --> 00:05:08,016 -That recently? -That recently. 97 00:05:08,099 --> 00:05:10,769 You know, while they have made some upgrades, 98 00:05:10,852 --> 00:05:14,147 even with those bare minimum controls that they installed 99 00:05:14,231 --> 00:05:18,652 it's still the largest source of air and water pollution in the county. 100 00:05:18,735 --> 00:05:22,197 It just doesn't make sense to me to invest in something that seems 101 00:05:22,864 --> 00:05:26,743 old and dying and not instead invest in other kinds of energy. 102 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:30,580 Unfortunately that kind of a business model leaves communities 103 00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:33,750 like Waukegan, basically being held hostage. 104 00:05:33,834 --> 00:05:36,962 So what would it mean for the Beyond Coal campaign 105 00:05:37,712 --> 00:05:39,756 to succeed here in Waukegan? 106 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,425 If we can do it here in the industrial heartland 107 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:46,638 against one of the largest energy companies in the country, 108 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:48,306 we can do it anywhere. 109 00:06:41,443 --> 00:06:43,945 Some of the worst air pollution in the world 110 00:06:44,029 --> 00:06:46,197 has blanketed China for years, 111 00:06:46,281 --> 00:06:49,492 and the international media has been all over it. 112 00:06:49,576 --> 00:06:52,370 This is what everybody in Beijing is talking about today. 113 00:06:52,454 --> 00:06:57,584 This grey pall of smoggy stuff that's just hanging over the city. 114 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:00,295 A report published at the Lancet Medical Journal 115 00:07:00,378 --> 00:07:05,133 says that air pollution in China is responsible for between 350 000 116 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:08,261 to 500 000 premature deaths every year. 117 00:07:08,345 --> 00:07:13,725 Chinese officials say the murky air over Beijing this month is just fog, 118 00:07:13,808 --> 00:07:16,603 but measurements taken at the U.S. Embassy there 119 00:07:16,686 --> 00:07:20,357 show dangerously high levels of air pollution. 120 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,235 We were all warned, before we went to Beijing, about the air quality. 121 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:27,989 But once you arrive and actually see it, you sense it, you breathe it, 122 00:07:28,073 --> 00:07:30,158 then it really hits you like a brick. 123 00:07:30,241 --> 00:07:32,786 Former U.S. Ambassador Gary Locke 124 00:07:32,869 --> 00:07:35,622 tells me the embassy had been uploading daily air quality 125 00:07:35,705 --> 00:07:38,583 readings from the monitors on its roof, 126 00:07:38,667 --> 00:07:43,505 but the U.S. numbers conflicted with official Chinese reports. 127 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:47,384 That's when the Chinese citizens on the Internet say, hey what gives? 128 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:49,719 How come the U.S. Government says it's hazardous 129 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:51,846 and the Chinese Government's downplaying it? 130 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:54,432 Did they try to block the information at first? 131 00:07:54,516 --> 00:07:58,103 A lot of influential bloggers, some with millions of followers, 132 00:07:58,186 --> 00:08:02,023 they were being pressured to not basically re-tweet 133 00:08:02,107 --> 00:08:03,900 the readings that we gave out. 134 00:08:03,984 --> 00:08:05,986 What kind of signals were you getting 135 00:08:06,069 --> 00:08:08,154 from the Chinese government? 136 00:08:08,238 --> 00:08:12,450 They asked us to stop and desist and to not set up the program 137 00:08:12,534 --> 00:08:14,744 or to shut it down, and we said no. 138 00:08:14,828 --> 00:08:19,791 At a certain point the government must have changed their attitude, 139 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:22,085 we're breathing the same air. 140 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:26,089 That's right. The turning point was in January of 2013. 141 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:29,801 We had almost three weeks of hazardous air. 142 00:08:30,635 --> 00:08:34,055 It was so bad that you could not even see across the street. 143 00:08:34,139 --> 00:08:36,391 And finally the Chinese government acknowledged 144 00:08:36,474 --> 00:08:40,395 this was severe air pollution, they could not hide it anymore, 145 00:08:40,478 --> 00:08:44,399 that there needed to be action by the Chinese government. 146 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:47,902 And do you feel that this was a turning point in the way 147 00:08:47,986 --> 00:08:52,741 that the Chinese government started to approach climate change? 148 00:08:52,824 --> 00:08:55,493 This is like the genie that's been let out of the bottle. 149 00:08:55,577 --> 00:08:59,456 There's more concern over environmental issues every day. 150 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:02,500 But I do believe that the attention on air pollution, 151 00:09:02,584 --> 00:09:05,712 thanks to the efforts of the embassy, galvanized 152 00:09:06,796 --> 00:09:11,176 Chinese opinion and concern over air pollution, 153 00:09:11,259 --> 00:09:14,429 and therefore greenhouse gas emissions and climate change. 154 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:18,058 Chinese social media sites exploded. 155 00:09:18,141 --> 00:09:21,269 Protests sprang up against polluting factories. 156 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:26,775 In 2013, the government, under pressure to clean up the air, 157 00:09:26,858 --> 00:09:30,737 started moving coal plants away from cities to rural areas. 158 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:33,948 A year later, the government took things even further. 159 00:09:34,783 --> 00:09:36,743 Those concerned about climate change 160 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:39,579 are calling this the breakthrough they've been waiting for. 161 00:09:39,662 --> 00:09:42,165 A deal brokered between the U.S. and China 162 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:44,084 to greatly reduce carbon emissions. 163 00:09:44,167 --> 00:09:48,338 This is an ambitious goal, but it is an achievable goal. 164 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:50,757 China may not be a democracy, 165 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,010 but when smog made life unbearable for its people, 166 00:09:54,594 --> 00:09:56,888 the government finally acted. 167 00:10:02,685 --> 00:10:04,395 What is this community like? 168 00:10:04,479 --> 00:10:08,191 Seventy percent are Latino and African American. 169 00:10:08,274 --> 00:10:09,859 It's a working class community. 170 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:13,363 How hard is it to get people in a town like this 171 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:16,533 motivated to take on something this big? 172 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:19,702 There are amazing people that I have met here, 173 00:10:19,786 --> 00:10:24,582 that maybe have not ever been part of a campaign in their lives, 174 00:10:24,666 --> 00:10:29,129 never spoken publicly or knocked on doors and they're doing it. 175 00:10:29,212 --> 00:10:33,216 It's almost like everyday people have to learn how to be activists? 176 00:10:33,299 --> 00:10:34,676 Absolutely. 177 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:38,304 Christine says that while a big part of the Beyond Coal strategy 178 00:10:38,388 --> 00:10:41,015 is to encourage locals to lead the charge, 179 00:10:41,099 --> 00:10:44,144 talking only about climate change isn't enough. 180 00:10:44,227 --> 00:10:48,815 In this community the potential health impact is more of a concern. 181 00:10:48,898 --> 00:10:52,944 And Christine says I'll understand why if I meet Dulce Ortiz, 182 00:10:53,027 --> 00:10:57,448 who lives and works downtown just a stone's throw from the coal plant. 183 00:10:58,032 --> 00:11:00,493 Oh wow. It's right outside your window, huh? 184 00:11:00,577 --> 00:11:02,412 Yes it is. 185 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:04,330 What's that like? 186 00:11:04,414 --> 00:11:09,043 It's frustrating, and inspiring. But mostly frustrating. 187 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:13,631 Dulce tells me she's worried about the health impact 188 00:11:13,715 --> 00:11:18,261 the pollution from the plant might have on her 14-year-old son, Ivan, 189 00:11:18,344 --> 00:11:21,139 and her mother Sonya, who also lives in town. 190 00:11:21,222 --> 00:11:23,808 So what are some of the personal impacts 191 00:11:23,892 --> 00:11:27,353 that the coal plant has had on you guys? 192 00:11:27,437 --> 00:11:30,565 I'm having problems with my lungs. 193 00:11:30,648 --> 00:11:32,400 Constantly. You know? 194 00:11:32,483 --> 00:11:34,736 I never in my life smoked. 195 00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:38,364 And it's not just me. She started getting sick, too. 196 00:11:38,448 --> 00:11:40,825 -You've developed similar issues? -Yes. 197 00:11:40,909 --> 00:11:45,371 Is this something that is more widespread in the community 198 00:11:45,455 --> 00:11:48,082 or is it just your family? 199 00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:51,753 No, it's in the community, you know. It's bad. 200 00:11:51,836 --> 00:11:57,217 Of course we can't say that asthma is caused by the coal plant. 201 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:01,304 But the pollution that's being put out into the air 202 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,973 creates the asthma attacks. 203 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:08,061 Dulce explains that such attacks are common in Waukegan. 204 00:12:08,603 --> 00:12:11,481 One study found that one in three school children 205 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:13,983 had asthma or asthma-like symptoms, 206 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:16,778 a rate far higher than in the rest of the state. 207 00:12:16,861 --> 00:12:20,365 But before meeting Christine, Dulce didn't even realize 208 00:12:20,448 --> 00:12:22,784 what the plant outside her window was. 209 00:12:22,867 --> 00:12:25,370 You didn't know there was a coal plant here? 210 00:12:25,453 --> 00:12:28,289 I told Christine you know, what can I do? 211 00:12:28,373 --> 00:12:31,334 What do you want me to do? Whatever you want, I'll do it. 212 00:12:32,794 --> 00:12:36,547 So Dulce and other locals learned the power of going door to door, 213 00:12:36,631 --> 00:12:38,967 telling residents about the risks of the plant. 214 00:12:39,717 --> 00:12:42,637 -Hello! -Hi! My name is Dulce Ortiz. 215 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,056 I'm Dominisha Blake and I'm here with Clean Power, 216 00:12:45,139 --> 00:12:47,642 -and this is Jordan. -Hey Jordan. 217 00:12:47,725 --> 00:12:49,269 Um, do you have any children? 218 00:12:49,352 --> 00:12:52,146 I've got three of them. I've got a little one coming, too. 219 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:55,358 That's why we're doing this. There is a coal plant 220 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:57,527 less than a mile away from your home. 221 00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:01,281 Our children should have clean air, a clean environment. 222 00:13:01,364 --> 00:13:03,992 Yeah. I don't mind signing. That's a good thing. 223 00:13:04,075 --> 00:13:06,661 After collecting signatures for a petition, 224 00:13:06,744 --> 00:13:09,831 this group of everyday citizens organized to get 225 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:13,543 more than 150 residents to march on the coal plant. 226 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:17,755 We ask that NRG come to the table 227 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:21,342 to transition away from coal. 228 00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:24,887 Then, just before Christmas, they took their petitions 229 00:13:24,971 --> 00:13:27,181 directly to the mayor and town council, 230 00:13:27,265 --> 00:13:30,476 demanding that the city come up with a plan to retire the coal plant 231 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:33,771 and attract cleaner, greener jobs. 232 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,068 That's what our community, more than 2000 residents, ask of you 233 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:42,238 Mayor Motley and the members of the city council. 234 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:47,243 Activists delivered 2000 petitions and asked Mayor Wayne Motley 235 00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:49,329 to set up a meeting with NRG. 236 00:13:49,412 --> 00:13:52,457 If I can arrange that meeting, which I told you I would, 237 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:54,167 I will certainly do that. 238 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:57,420 -Thank you so much. -Thank you ladies and gentlemen. 239 00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:01,883 Now just pray. 240 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,260 So what was the response 241 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:07,638 to delivering the 2000 petitions to the Mayor? 242 00:14:07,722 --> 00:14:10,183 Nothing has come of that. 243 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:12,977 And does the mayor think that conversation should happen? 244 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:17,482 I don't know what the mayor thinks. We haven't heard from him. 245 00:14:17,565 --> 00:14:19,609 We don't know what his plans are. 246 00:14:19,692 --> 00:14:23,071 With no response from NRG or their local government, 247 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:24,864 the activists are stuck. 248 00:14:24,947 --> 00:14:28,326 So I'm going to meet the mayor to find out where he stands. 249 00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:44,050 China has changed a lot since I first came here in the late '70s. 250 00:14:45,051 --> 00:14:49,555 What used to be sleepy villages are now thriving mega cities. 251 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:54,018 Back then, China's most valued asset was cheap labor. 252 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:57,105 And so, they became a "factory to the world," 253 00:14:57,188 --> 00:15:00,900 growing their economy seventy-fold in less than four decades. 254 00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:03,111 Think about that! 255 00:15:03,194 --> 00:15:06,906 Nothing like it has happened before in the history of mankind. 256 00:15:07,615 --> 00:15:12,495 To power it all, China built more than a thousand coal plants, 257 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:15,123 which contribute to an energy sector 258 00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:20,378 that pumps out an astounding 20% of the gases warming the planet. 259 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:27,844 -I like this one. -Try it. 260 00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:31,264 Nice! 261 00:15:31,347 --> 00:15:34,058 -Is it me? -Yes, It looks nice on you. 262 00:15:34,142 --> 00:15:35,518 Were you born in China? 263 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:38,479 Kevin Mo is a top climate advisor 264 00:15:38,563 --> 00:15:40,481 to the American and Chinese governments. 265 00:15:41,065 --> 00:15:43,693 He came down from Beijing to meet with me. 266 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:47,029 In Wal-Mart, a lot of "Made in China" stuff exactly like here. 267 00:15:47,113 --> 00:15:50,241 That's why they're saying this is a factory of the world. 268 00:15:50,324 --> 00:15:52,702 -Yeah. -That's what China becomes now. 269 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,912 He tells me if China is going to quit coal, 270 00:15:54,996 --> 00:15:59,208 it will have to pivot away from so much reliance on manufacturing 271 00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:01,085 and dirty industry. 272 00:16:01,169 --> 00:16:04,005 So how will the economy have to adjust? 273 00:16:04,088 --> 00:16:05,756 How will it change? 274 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,677 Well, now you have to transition to service-based economy, 275 00:16:10,428 --> 00:16:12,889 -which is finance. -Finance. 276 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,557 -IT... -OK. 277 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,767 Insurance... those kinds of things. 278 00:16:17,393 --> 00:16:21,772 Not like energy-intensified industries, 279 00:16:21,856 --> 00:16:24,984 like steel, cement, those kind of things. 280 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:27,153 So it's different. 281 00:16:27,236 --> 00:16:29,280 So, if they can make that transition. 282 00:16:29,363 --> 00:16:30,948 If they can make that transition, 283 00:16:31,032 --> 00:16:34,160 the economic growth will be more sustainable 284 00:16:34,243 --> 00:16:38,414 and it consumes less energy but generate more revenues. 285 00:16:39,290 --> 00:16:42,084 Okay, in your opinion, can they do it? 286 00:16:42,168 --> 00:16:44,420 And can they do it as fast as they hope to? 287 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:48,132 Well let's say this: If China doesn't make all these changes 288 00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:54,055 and still use the previous growth model, economic growth model, 289 00:16:54,138 --> 00:16:57,016 then the scenario would be, 290 00:16:57,099 --> 00:16:59,769 by 2050, China's carbon emissions 291 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,521 will be more than 292 00:17:01,604 --> 00:17:04,857 the current total carbon emissions in the world. 293 00:17:06,317 --> 00:17:11,739 That much carbon dioxide in the air would make life on earth unbearable. 294 00:17:11,822 --> 00:17:15,701 But Kevin claims China's leaders acknowledge this threat 295 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:18,913 and are making plans to ensure that doesn't happen. 296 00:17:19,497 --> 00:17:23,584 The problem, is that if China shifts away from manufacturing, 297 00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:27,630 other countries, including ones that burn lots of coal, 298 00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:29,757 will be picking up the slack. 299 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,301 And so the benefit to the climate is unclear. 300 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:40,476 Today I'm meeting the mayor of Waukegan, 301 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,272 who said he would set up a meeting between the plant owner, NRG, 302 00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:48,734 and a local group leading the fight, called Clean Power Lake County. 303 00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:53,906 What is your take on this group and what they're trying to do? 304 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:56,242 They have every right to do what they're doing, 305 00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:59,453 but the one thing that people have to realize 306 00:17:59,537 --> 00:18:01,872 is I have a business in my community 307 00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:05,334 that pays almost a million dollars a year in taxes. 308 00:18:05,918 --> 00:18:09,213 Provides 100 skilled jobs. 309 00:18:09,297 --> 00:18:12,425 Should that business close, where would I get that revenue from? 310 00:18:12,508 --> 00:18:14,093 How could I balance my budgets? 311 00:18:14,176 --> 00:18:17,680 I happen to have a very good working relationship with NRG, 312 00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:21,892 they're just not prepared to discuss any future dealings with the plant. 313 00:18:21,976 --> 00:18:23,894 Do you think that Clean Power Lake County 314 00:18:23,978 --> 00:18:26,981 speaks for the majority of residents 315 00:18:27,064 --> 00:18:29,025 and how they feel about the coal plant? 316 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:33,029 'Cause they recently delivered 2000 petitions. 317 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:36,574 I guess what you really have to look into and understand 318 00:18:36,657 --> 00:18:39,327 is how they acquired those signatures 319 00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:41,579 and what pretense they used to get them. 320 00:18:41,662 --> 00:18:44,373 The people I talked to didn't know what they were signing, 321 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:46,125 so I don't know what to tell you. 322 00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:49,962 NRG has a huge, 323 00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:52,715 millions and millions of dollars investment in this. 324 00:18:54,216 --> 00:18:57,136 Clean Power Lake County has no financial investment, 325 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,263 nor does Sierra Club. 326 00:18:59,347 --> 00:19:02,141 I think that they would argue that their investment 327 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:04,143 may not be a financial one, 328 00:19:04,226 --> 00:19:10,066 but their investment is their health and the future of their hometown. 329 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:12,485 I'm not saying one matters more than the other. 330 00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:15,946 But you have heard from residents of Waukegan that they themselves... 331 00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:21,077 experience, health impacts, namely asthma. 332 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,413 I've had no list of people or a line of people 333 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:27,541 coming into my office complaining about those issues. 334 00:19:27,625 --> 00:19:30,711 Isn't it the duty of elected officials 335 00:19:30,795 --> 00:19:33,255 to have those people's voices get heard? 336 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,716 -I'm trying. -You're trying. 337 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,635 -I'm trying. -Yeah. 338 00:19:37,718 --> 00:19:42,306 And believe me, I've tried to remain neutral through this whole process, 339 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:47,645 but over the last 20 years, we've lost 30 000 jobs on our lakefront. 340 00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:51,732 Should the coal plant close, it's a real dilemma. 341 00:19:51,816 --> 00:19:53,567 I mean, it's a dilemma for me. 342 00:19:56,946 --> 00:19:59,240 I get where the mayor is coming from. 343 00:19:59,323 --> 00:20:02,326 Waukegan did once employ tens of thousands 344 00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:04,620 in factories on its waterfront. 345 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:09,125 But those factories closed, and left behind a legacy of toxic pollution 346 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,668 that's still being cleaned up. 347 00:20:11,252 --> 00:20:15,131 The coal plant is virtually all that remains of that industrial past. 348 00:20:15,923 --> 00:20:19,218 I go back to Dulce's, to tell her what Mayor Motley said. 349 00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:22,054 I wish I had better news. 350 00:20:22,138 --> 00:20:26,559 His response was that he couldn't be sure 351 00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:31,439 that those 2000 signatures were legitimate. 352 00:20:31,522 --> 00:20:35,109 Or whether or not the people knew what they were signing, 353 00:20:35,192 --> 00:20:40,531 so, personally I'm frustrated, so I can't imagine how do you feel? 354 00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:45,953 For him to say that these people didn't know what they were signing, 355 00:20:47,121 --> 00:20:49,206 I find that very... 356 00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:52,668 how can I say... very disturbing. 357 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:55,504 And he's completely wrong. 358 00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:58,549 Waukegan has five Superfund sites. 359 00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:03,179 So, there is a trail of corporations polluting our lands, 360 00:21:03,262 --> 00:21:05,973 taking their profits, and just leaving. 361 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,727 And leaving us, the residents with the health issues 362 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:13,314 and no opportunity for economic development. 363 00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:15,649 We don't want that to happen again, 364 00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:20,905 and it's difficult that he's not understanding, 365 00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:23,240 what we're trying to do here. 366 00:21:37,421 --> 00:21:40,758 Tell me what that was like, to be the first here. 367 00:21:40,841 --> 00:21:44,011 It was a little bit odd; I felt like a pioneer in the beginning. 368 00:21:44,094 --> 00:21:46,806 Barbara Finamore is an energy expert 369 00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:51,602 who has been helping China find ways to get off coal since the early 90s. 370 00:21:51,685 --> 00:21:55,689 There was almost no awareness at the time of climate change 371 00:21:55,773 --> 00:22:00,486 and there was no awareness of the need to use energy more efficiently. 372 00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:05,574 But China really is the key to the future of our planet. 373 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:09,286 The fact of the matter is things are changing very fast here. 374 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:12,122 As part of its agreement with the U.S., 375 00:22:12,206 --> 00:22:16,126 China pledged to get 20% of its energy from non-fossil fuels 376 00:22:16,210 --> 00:22:17,586 by 2030. 377 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:22,049 And Barbara says this plant, that powers Hong Kong Island, 378 00:22:22,132 --> 00:22:26,095 is representative of what's happening all across China. 379 00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:28,013 -Good Morning! -Good Morning! 380 00:22:28,097 --> 00:22:30,099 -Hi! -Hi, Mr. Wan, Sigourney Weaver. 381 00:22:31,141 --> 00:22:36,146 Meeting us is the managing director of Hong Kong electric: C.T. Wan. 382 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:37,898 Thank you for having us. 383 00:22:37,982 --> 00:22:43,779 This power station started in 1979, originally from oil to coal. 384 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:46,699 But now, because of the climate change agenda. 385 00:22:46,782 --> 00:22:49,743 We'll, eventually, get rid of all the coal 386 00:22:49,827 --> 00:22:51,620 towards the end of the next decade. 387 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,080 -Really? -Yes. 388 00:22:53,163 --> 00:22:58,377 Science tells us that we need to do something before it's too late. 389 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:01,964 So the minimum thing we need to do is to reduce carbon emissions. 390 00:23:02,047 --> 00:23:06,051 And we decided to build 8600 solar panels now. 391 00:23:06,135 --> 00:23:10,306 Sometimes in America, the people who run these coal plants say, 392 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:13,893 "We're not so sure that what we're experiencing 393 00:23:13,976 --> 00:23:16,562 is because of climate change." 394 00:23:18,606 --> 00:23:24,361 I'm an engineer by training. We only look at data and facts. 395 00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:29,450 Those prove that it is coming and we need do something, 396 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,785 otherwise, it's too late. 397 00:23:31,869 --> 00:23:35,915 And do you feel that China will make its commitments 398 00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:39,418 in terms of lowering fossil fuels? 399 00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:41,462 Are you optimistic? 400 00:23:42,046 --> 00:23:44,965 Last year is a real turning point in China. 401 00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:49,470 The total investment in renewable power generation 402 00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:53,599 is more than conventional power for the first time in history. 403 00:23:53,682 --> 00:23:55,392 This speaks for itself. 404 00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:59,480 C.T. takes us on a tour of the plant. 405 00:24:00,064 --> 00:24:03,984 -OK, sit tight ladies. -OK, don't be a speed demon! 406 00:24:05,069 --> 00:24:09,281 Not only is China making enormous investments in green energy, 407 00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:14,870 this year the government halted construction on 30 coal power plants 408 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:18,791 with a capacity greater than Britain's entire coal fleet. 409 00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:23,170 Even more important, I'm surprised to hear, two years ago 410 00:24:23,253 --> 00:24:27,841 coal consumption in China leveled off and is actually going down. 411 00:24:29,802 --> 00:24:32,179 -Here we are! -Thank you! 412 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:38,185 This is quite extraordinary. 413 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:42,564 This is the perfect place to talk to you because you have the past, 414 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:46,652 the coal and the future, this amazing solar array. 415 00:24:46,735 --> 00:24:51,407 Five years ago, there was virtually no solar power in China. 416 00:24:51,991 --> 00:24:58,414 And by 2030, China will have added as much wind and solar 417 00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:02,334 -as exist in the world today. -Are you kidding me? 418 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:05,295 Last year was huge for renewables here. 419 00:25:05,379 --> 00:25:09,258 China now has more solar power than any other country, 420 00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:14,013 and it installed almost half of the world's new wind turbines. 421 00:25:14,096 --> 00:25:17,891 All in all, China spent more than one hundred billion dollars 422 00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:19,435 on renewables last year 423 00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:23,772 and became the world's top investor in clean energy. 424 00:25:28,819 --> 00:25:31,280 In Waukegan, Dulce and the other volunteers 425 00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:32,823 have been dealt a setback. 426 00:25:32,906 --> 00:25:36,827 The plant's owner, NRG, isn't willing to meet with them. 427 00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:39,830 So they're gathering to plot their next move. 428 00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:41,790 There are some who ask, 429 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:44,418 "Well, if you don't like it then why don't you move?" 430 00:25:44,501 --> 00:25:48,672 Well because we have, we own homes here, because our families are here, 431 00:25:48,756 --> 00:25:50,257 because our jobs are here, 432 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:52,301 and just because something isn't right 433 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,970 doesn't mean you walk away from it, you try to fix it, 434 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:58,307 and that's what we're trying to do is make it better for everybody. 435 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:01,143 With this campaign, we're trying to say, 436 00:26:01,226 --> 00:26:03,187 "We're here, we're going to fight for you, 437 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:06,482 we're going to be your voice and we're gonna put pressure 438 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,025 on every single person 439 00:26:08,108 --> 00:26:11,612 that has anything to do with that coal plant." 440 00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:16,867 So, you've tried city hall, you've tried the mayor, 441 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:19,661 what is the next level? 442 00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:22,664 We need to get people in a bus, down to Springfield. 443 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:25,334 We need to show their citizens are behind them. 444 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:29,171 Let's put some passion into this the next few months and get it going. 445 00:26:29,254 --> 00:26:33,634 As I look around at the people here, I realize how remarkable it is: 446 00:26:34,218 --> 00:26:38,806 a pastor, a nun, a college grad coming home. 447 00:26:38,889 --> 00:26:42,392 Regular people coming together to fight this fight, 448 00:26:42,476 --> 00:26:44,269 and it's clear they're not giving up. 449 00:26:48,899 --> 00:26:50,651 Here we go! 450 00:26:52,236 --> 00:26:55,572 The Waukeganites have decided to take the fight to Springfield, 451 00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:57,533 the capital of Illinois. 452 00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:06,667 They're joining forces with people from across the state 453 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,585 to lobby their representatives 454 00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:10,796 to support the Illinois "clean jobs bill," 455 00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:14,299 which would create incentives to bring new, clean energy jobs 456 00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:16,176 to communities like Waukegan. 457 00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:19,054 If you look to the left, don't miss this wind farm. 458 00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:22,432 That's what clean energy looks like. 459 00:27:23,225 --> 00:27:26,937 Dulce and the rest of the activists are making the 4 hour journey 460 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:29,940 in the hopes that passing this clean jobs legislation 461 00:27:30,023 --> 00:27:33,318 will put pressure on their mayor and NRG 462 00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:37,531 to start talking with them about a transition away from dirty energy. 463 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:40,784 -What do we want? -Clean jobs! 464 00:27:40,868 --> 00:27:42,870 -When do we want it? -Now! 465 00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:44,496 -What do we want? -Clean jobs! 466 00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:46,206 -When do we want it? -Now! 467 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:50,669 I come here with one clear message today. 468 00:27:51,211 --> 00:27:55,007 Communities like Waukegan deserve a clean energy future 469 00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:58,886 and it's time to finally pass the Illinois Clean Jobs Bill. 470 00:28:06,643 --> 00:28:08,478 In addition to lobbying the governor, 471 00:28:08,562 --> 00:28:10,772 the activists spend the entire day 472 00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:14,193 pressing their case with every state legislator they can find. 473 00:28:16,111 --> 00:28:19,156 They are hoping their local representative, Rita Mayfield, 474 00:28:19,239 --> 00:28:22,826 will sign on to a letter calling on NRG to meet with them. 475 00:28:24,203 --> 00:28:26,246 But she's declining to do so. 476 00:28:28,165 --> 00:28:34,129 She's not going to sign until she feels there's a united front. 477 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,552 -I just feel frustrated. -Yeah, me too. Me too. 478 00:28:41,428 --> 00:28:42,930 At the end of the session, 479 00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:46,016 they're not much further along than when they started. 480 00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:48,727 The "clean jobs bill" is in legislative limbo 481 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:53,565 and their local officials seem reluctant to sign the letter to NRG. 482 00:28:53,649 --> 00:28:57,236 The effort to get coal out of Waukegan is faltering. 483 00:29:07,037 --> 00:29:10,624 The transformation in China has been truly remarkable. 484 00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:13,210 Bringing more people out of poverty 485 00:29:13,293 --> 00:29:15,504 than any other time in human history. 486 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:19,299 Dan Dudek witnessed that transformation first hand. 487 00:29:19,383 --> 00:29:20,884 For more than two decades 488 00:29:20,968 --> 00:29:24,096 he's been working with the Chinese on their pollution problems. 489 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:28,308 The Chinese government asked Dan to help them reduce emissions 490 00:29:28,392 --> 00:29:33,272 by getting polluters to pay for the CO2 they spew into the atmosphere. 491 00:29:33,355 --> 00:29:35,065 It's called cap and trade. 492 00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:39,194 Today he's invited me out to Hong Kong's Victoria Harbor 493 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,989 to explain exactly what that means. 494 00:29:42,072 --> 00:29:45,158 I'll do my best; we have a fabulous backdrop for that here 495 00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:47,244 on the Hong Kong skyline. 496 00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:51,248 Imagine that each building is an emission source. 497 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,461 And the height of each building is the level of its annual emissions. 498 00:29:56,545 --> 00:29:58,130 So for example the tall one 499 00:29:58,213 --> 00:30:02,092 might be a very old traditional coal-fired power plant. 500 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:04,594 A shorter building would be natural gas, 501 00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:08,432 which has a lot less in the way of carbon content, than coal does. 502 00:30:08,515 --> 00:30:11,518 Okay so if the tall building is the heavy polluter, 503 00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:13,854 and the little building is the low polluter 504 00:30:13,937 --> 00:30:17,482 how do they work together to decrease the emissions? 505 00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:20,068 Well, the government is going to set a limit, 506 00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:22,779 a maximum level in terms of total emissions, 507 00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:27,242 and we could imagine that as a line drawn across all of these buildings. 508 00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:31,204 Dan tells me this line, or "cap," is the amount of pollution 509 00:30:31,288 --> 00:30:33,290 the government is willing to tolerate. 510 00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:38,045 To avoid a steep penalty, companies above this line must pollute less 511 00:30:38,128 --> 00:30:41,340 or buy "credits" from the companies below the line. 512 00:30:41,423 --> 00:30:44,176 Then, over time, the cap gets lowered, 513 00:30:44,259 --> 00:30:48,597 allowing less carbon pollution, and making credits more expensive. 514 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,434 So over time, as the level of emissions drops, 515 00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:55,979 they'll have to switch over to cleaner energy, right? 516 00:30:56,063 --> 00:30:59,191 With a market like this, we stimulate innovation. 517 00:30:59,274 --> 00:31:01,818 People gonna come up with new ideas. 518 00:31:01,902 --> 00:31:04,154 In fact, the race toward the future 519 00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:08,200 is gonna be about the global clean energy economy, 520 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:11,370 and I think China's a lot more prepared for that 521 00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:12,954 than the United States is. 522 00:31:13,038 --> 00:31:15,916 If Dan seems pessimistic about the U.S., 523 00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:18,668 it's because president Obama tried to pass 524 00:31:18,752 --> 00:31:22,005 a national "cap-and-trade" bill 7 years ago. 525 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:24,007 But it died in Congress. 526 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:30,555 When I think about the future and you know my real anxieties, 527 00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:36,603 it's probably as much about what the United States won't do, 528 00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:38,188 as what China will do. 529 00:31:38,271 --> 00:31:40,816 And now there's little hope that a similar bill 530 00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,610 would even surface in a Trump presidency. 531 00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:46,029 Still, China is planning to roll out 532 00:31:46,113 --> 00:31:49,408 a nationwide cap and trade program next year. 533 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:55,539 After months of trying, 534 00:31:55,622 --> 00:31:58,542 Waukegan has been unable to bring NRG to the table 535 00:31:58,625 --> 00:32:01,128 to discuss the future of its coal plant. 536 00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:05,006 And then I see that in the middle of their fight, 537 00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:08,385 the company's CEO, David Crane, was fired. 538 00:32:09,553 --> 00:32:11,763 He was supposed to have been very progressive. 539 00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:14,224 That's right. It's a company in transformation. 540 00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:16,560 Trying to turn a brown company green. 541 00:32:16,643 --> 00:32:18,103 ... and clean energy future. 542 00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:21,231 Believing a big fossil fuel energy company 543 00:32:21,314 --> 00:32:24,443 could transform itself into a clean energy leader. 544 00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:29,448 I want to ask him why won't NRG let go of coal? 545 00:32:29,531 --> 00:32:31,658 I was trying to transform NRG 546 00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:34,786 from being a fossil fuel-based electricity company 547 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:36,580 into a renewable-based, 548 00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:39,374 and we were moving in that direction. 549 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,002 If I had been a person that had kept my head down 550 00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:44,296 and never talked about these issues, 551 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,508 then I think I would still be in the job. 552 00:32:48,592 --> 00:32:50,218 So is that why you got fired? 553 00:32:50,302 --> 00:32:52,762 Because what you were trying to do failed? 554 00:32:52,846 --> 00:32:57,559 I would not say that what I had done had failed, 555 00:32:57,642 --> 00:33:02,898 and I would say probably that it hadn't succeeded yet. 556 00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:10,906 When you were the CEO, NRG bought a coal plant in Waukegan, Illinois. 557 00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:12,908 Why did NRG buy that plant? 558 00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:17,954 So we bought that plant as part of a much larger acquisition 559 00:33:18,038 --> 00:33:20,373 because the portfolio of power plants we bought 560 00:33:20,457 --> 00:33:22,876 had a very valuable set of wind farms, 561 00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:26,171 and four coal plants in Illinois outside of Chicago. 562 00:33:26,254 --> 00:33:29,049 So to get the wind farms you had to buy the coal plants? 563 00:33:29,633 --> 00:33:33,303 Probably should have just sold the coal plants when we bought them, 564 00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:37,140 because there's no future in coal in the United States. 565 00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:40,769 Do you still believe that? That coal is on its way out? 566 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,022 Oh, coal is very much on its way out. 567 00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:47,901 In the United States coal has stage IV cancer. 568 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,780 I would suggest that there's not a single coal-fired power plant 569 00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:54,824 in the United States that's making money today. 570 00:33:54,908 --> 00:33:58,870 So you're saying that NRG is keeping the plant in Waukegan open 571 00:33:58,954 --> 00:34:00,830 in case coal makes a comeback? 572 00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:06,211 Uh, yes. And you're hoping that at some point prices turn around, 573 00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:08,421 and then you can make a lot of money. 574 00:34:09,005 --> 00:34:11,132 -Well I've been to Waukegan. -Oh you have? 575 00:34:11,925 --> 00:34:15,720 And I met with a woman named Dulce Ortiz, 576 00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:18,390 who, she herself has developed asthma. 577 00:34:18,473 --> 00:34:20,809 Her mother has developed asthma. 578 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:22,936 My question is, 579 00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:26,982 do the people inside of a company like NRG 580 00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:31,736 ever stop to think about the Dulces? 581 00:34:32,445 --> 00:34:37,367 No business allows itself to be stymied 582 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:43,039 by just some people living near something, 583 00:34:43,123 --> 00:34:44,874 like that. 584 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:50,088 NRG invested 100 million dollars in environmental controls 585 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:53,258 on the Waukegan plant within the last year. 586 00:34:53,341 --> 00:34:56,595 And when a company spends 100 million dollars, 587 00:34:56,678 --> 00:34:59,931 they don't want to close it the next year. 588 00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:03,143 So then, looking forward, you know, 589 00:35:03,727 --> 00:35:09,691 is it possible to move these huge companies that exist 590 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:13,820 from a brown industry into a green industry? 591 00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:17,699 Your question is an unbelievably important question 592 00:35:17,782 --> 00:35:19,326 that nobody is asking. 593 00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:22,579 I'm not confident that fossil fuel energy companies 594 00:35:22,662 --> 00:35:25,165 will lead the clean energy revolution. 595 00:35:25,248 --> 00:35:28,710 And unfortunately the lesson of what happened to me 596 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:34,591 is not going to be encouragement for anyone who wants to radically change 597 00:35:34,674 --> 00:35:36,343 what their company is doing. 598 00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:40,764 Based on what David's telling me, getting NRG's new CEO, 599 00:35:40,847 --> 00:35:44,893 Mauricio Gutierrez, to come to the table seems unlikely. 600 00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:46,519 He declined to talk to me, 601 00:35:46,603 --> 00:35:49,397 but the Waukegan activists say they might have come up 602 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:52,108 with a way to confront him directly. 603 00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:04,663 Now that China is about to unveil a national cap and trade program, 604 00:36:04,746 --> 00:36:08,041 making companies pay a price for carbon emissions, 605 00:36:08,124 --> 00:36:11,544 I imagine utility executives here will be up in arms. 606 00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:14,923 It turns out there's a big time energy executive 607 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:17,425 who welcomes action on climate. 608 00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:21,429 Richard Lancaster is CEO of China Light and Power, 609 00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:25,225 one of the largest independent energy companies in China, 610 00:36:25,308 --> 00:36:29,270 which for decades has relied on coal to generate profits. 611 00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:33,441 We identified, quite early on, that climate change is a risk 612 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:36,820 that we had to bring into our thinking in the business. 613 00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:41,032 We had to really adopt the scientific targets 614 00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:43,368 that said the electricity industry, as a whole, 615 00:36:43,451 --> 00:36:49,165 had to reduce its carbon intensity by 75%, or more, by the year 2050, 616 00:36:49,249 --> 00:36:53,420 if global temperatures were to be stabilized. 617 00:36:54,003 --> 00:36:59,759 David Crane was running NRG and he also shifted his company, 618 00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:02,095 or tried to, from brown to green. 619 00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:06,850 And, in the end, the company balked and he got fired. 620 00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:12,689 So, how have you been able to manage this transition so successfully? 621 00:37:12,772 --> 00:37:15,358 The strongest argument I have 622 00:37:15,442 --> 00:37:18,319 is the risks that this business would be facing 623 00:37:18,403 --> 00:37:20,780 if we don't make that shift. 624 00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:24,200 But the reality is that we are where we are today. 625 00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:27,704 We have built coal-fired power stations; 626 00:37:27,787 --> 00:37:29,956 we've built fossil-fuel power stations; 627 00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:33,460 we run our economies on energy. 628 00:37:33,543 --> 00:37:35,962 And all of that infrastructure has been built. 629 00:37:36,546 --> 00:37:38,173 Had we known what we do today, 630 00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:40,842 we may have made different decisions earlier. 631 00:37:40,925 --> 00:37:44,220 But we now need to accept that this is an urgent problem 632 00:37:44,304 --> 00:37:45,889 and work as quickly as we can. 633 00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:48,767 China said it's going to go ahead and put a price on carbon. 634 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:52,812 That's what you mean when you say the risks to 635 00:37:52,896 --> 00:37:54,647 the coal power business. 636 00:37:54,731 --> 00:37:56,357 It might sound strange, 637 00:37:56,983 --> 00:38:01,070 but I actually welcome the clarity of having a price on carbon. 638 00:38:01,154 --> 00:38:03,740 And it actually makes our job a lot easier. 639 00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:08,411 If you recognize that carbon emissions, 640 00:38:08,495 --> 00:38:12,040 they bring about climate change and there is a cost for that. 641 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:15,502 Then that represents a risk for us 642 00:38:15,585 --> 00:38:19,172 if we're making investments in coal-fired power. 643 00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:22,842 Knowing that there is price makes our job of persuading 644 00:38:22,926 --> 00:38:27,180 our shareholders and government policymakers 645 00:38:27,263 --> 00:38:29,682 that this is a sensible choice 646 00:38:29,766 --> 00:38:32,519 to go for renewable energy rather than coal. 647 00:38:32,602 --> 00:38:36,022 So, for the sake of argument, pretend that I am... 648 00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:38,691 I am a dissatisfied board member. 649 00:38:38,775 --> 00:38:41,486 You want to move away from coal into renewables. 650 00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:44,364 And I say, "Richard, it's too expensive." 651 00:38:44,447 --> 00:38:46,908 "I want my monthly dividends." 652 00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,869 "I'm against this." What do you say to me? 653 00:38:49,953 --> 00:38:52,747 Renewable energy is affordable. 654 00:38:53,414 --> 00:38:56,918 It comes with support from governments. 655 00:38:57,001 --> 00:39:00,588 It comes with subsidies to close that gap. 656 00:39:01,214 --> 00:39:03,591 And if we're not taking advantage of that, 657 00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:07,554 we're not acting in the longer-term interests of our business. 658 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:12,517 So can you guarantee to me that it will be as profitable 659 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,436 as the coal power business? 660 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,232 I can't guarantee that it will be as profitable as coal today. 661 00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:22,569 But I can say that, in the future, 662 00:39:22,652 --> 00:39:26,155 renewable energy will be far more profitable than coal. 663 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,075 Renewables will be more profitable than coal? 664 00:39:30,118 --> 00:39:31,578 That's good news. 665 00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:58,938 To confront NRG's new CEO, Mauricio Gutierrez, 666 00:39:59,022 --> 00:40:02,525 Dulce and the rest of the activists have hatched a clever plan: 667 00:40:03,276 --> 00:40:05,945 they've become shareholders of NRG's stock 668 00:40:06,029 --> 00:40:08,281 so they can attend today's annual meeting. 669 00:40:08,364 --> 00:40:12,702 We should definitely be expecting the CEO, Mr. Gutierrez 670 00:40:12,785 --> 00:40:14,579 to respond to our question. 671 00:40:14,662 --> 00:40:16,789 Do you think he's gonna come to Waukegan? 672 00:40:16,873 --> 00:40:20,960 I'll be very surprised if he himself actually comes. 673 00:40:23,338 --> 00:40:24,714 Which is what we need. 674 00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:26,716 This is nerve-wracking. 675 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:28,843 But it's critical to remember 676 00:40:28,927 --> 00:40:31,346 we have a right as shareholders to be there. 677 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:35,975 Our voices deserve to be heard, so go in there and tell your story. 678 00:40:36,059 --> 00:40:38,937 I think we should all practice at least part of our speech, 679 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:42,023 if not the whole thing just so that we don't get too nervous. 680 00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:44,859 Thank you President Gutierrez and members of the board 681 00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,694 for the opportunity to speak today. 682 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:51,074 I am Dulce Ortiz and I am a proud resident of Waukegan, Illinois, 683 00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:53,534 where one of your many coal plants resides. 684 00:40:53,618 --> 00:40:58,498 Your Waukegan coal plant is the biggest air polluter in my county 685 00:40:58,581 --> 00:41:03,378 and is responsible for over 55% of all toxic releases. 686 00:41:04,045 --> 00:41:06,631 Even with your new controls the plant is still by far 687 00:41:06,714 --> 00:41:10,343 the largest source of air and water pollution in the entire county 688 00:41:10,426 --> 00:41:12,595 and our community continues to suffer. 689 00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,640 One in three children in Waukegan have asthma 690 00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:18,559 or are undiagnosed with asthma symptoms. 691 00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:21,437 It damages my health, the health of my children, 692 00:41:21,521 --> 00:41:23,731 and the health of all residents of Waukegan. 693 00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:28,987 Continuing to do the minimum is not effective leadership. 694 00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:30,989 You must do more. 695 00:41:31,072 --> 00:41:33,116 I have a lot of pride in my hometown 696 00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:36,411 and that's why I traveled 800 miles as a representative 697 00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:38,705 of the up and coming young people in Waukegan. 698 00:41:38,788 --> 00:41:42,000 Mr. Gutierrez, Waukeganites are counting on you 699 00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:44,544 to come to Waukegan and work with us 700 00:41:44,627 --> 00:41:47,922 to develop the transition plan for the coal plant. 701 00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:49,382 Will you do it? 702 00:41:49,465 --> 00:41:51,843 We cannot wait any longer. 703 00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:02,645 The shareholders meeting lasted only 45 minutes. 704 00:42:02,729 --> 00:42:05,481 But everyone was able to make their speech. 705 00:42:05,565 --> 00:42:09,235 And the CEO, Mauricio Gutierrez, was listening. 706 00:42:09,318 --> 00:42:12,321 After I spoke to him, and even though he didn't give us a date, 707 00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:15,950 he mentioned it, that he will be going to Waukegan. 708 00:42:16,034 --> 00:42:20,204 As soon as he has some time, he will visit Waukegan. 709 00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:26,794 I really think this may be a pivot point in our relationship with them. 710 00:42:26,878 --> 00:42:30,298 Where do we want to be in a year? Do we want to be coming back here? 711 00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:32,717 No, absolutely not. I do not want to be here. 712 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,804 Because it's ridiculous that we have to come here. 713 00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:41,184 All of us here have made sacrifices away from our friends, 714 00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:43,811 away from our families, taking time off work. 715 00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:46,647 And some of us don't have the luxury to take the time off. 716 00:42:47,482 --> 00:42:49,525 So, no. I don't want to be here. 717 00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:51,110 We've got to keep the issue 718 00:42:51,194 --> 00:42:54,947 at the forefront of every elected official's minds moving forward, 719 00:42:55,031 --> 00:42:57,909 and make sure he comes to Waukegan and move this forward. 720 00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:01,913 The activists' persistence has paid off: 721 00:43:01,996 --> 00:43:04,957 they were able to get the CEO's attention. 722 00:43:05,041 --> 00:43:07,293 But after all their time and effort, 723 00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:09,796 I'm beginning to wonder if they will ever be able 724 00:43:09,879 --> 00:43:11,547 to close the coal plant. 725 00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:17,386 So I travel to New York City to meet the man 726 00:43:17,470 --> 00:43:19,472 who's funded the Beyond Coal campaign 727 00:43:19,555 --> 00:43:22,308 to the tune of 80 million dollars. 728 00:43:22,975 --> 00:43:26,187 Now some call this progress a war on coal. 729 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:30,441 The truth is that coal is waging a war on American lives. 730 00:43:31,025 --> 00:43:33,444 Michael Bloomberg has been a fierce advocate 731 00:43:33,528 --> 00:43:36,656 for reducing carbon emissions as mayor of New York City 732 00:43:36,739 --> 00:43:38,407 and as a philanthropist. 733 00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:39,867 I want to ask him 734 00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:43,454 how can a campaign like the one in Waukegan be successful? 735 00:43:43,538 --> 00:43:46,833 So I went to Waukegan and they're having trouble. 736 00:43:46,916 --> 00:43:51,129 NRG, the company that owns the coal plant in Waukegan, 737 00:43:51,212 --> 00:43:54,173 they have no intention of closing the coal plant. 738 00:43:54,257 --> 00:43:56,509 Um, so they've hit a wall there. 739 00:43:56,592 --> 00:44:02,223 Just think about this: In the United States 14000 deaths 740 00:44:02,306 --> 00:44:07,061 were attributed every year to coal-fired power plants. 741 00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:10,439 That is now down to roughly 7000 deaths. 742 00:44:10,523 --> 00:44:11,899 Oh, wow. 743 00:44:11,983 --> 00:44:13,776 So 7000 people are living 744 00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:16,988 because we reduced the use of coal in this country. 745 00:44:17,071 --> 00:44:18,489 Not only that, 746 00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:23,286 but America dramatically reduced its greenhouse gases in the 10 years. 747 00:44:23,369 --> 00:44:27,874 Why? The public is picketing the power plants and elected officials 748 00:44:27,957 --> 00:44:31,502 are coming around because their constituents are saying, 749 00:44:31,586 --> 00:44:33,004 "Do something about it." 750 00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:38,843 What is it really going to take for us to stop burning coal? 751 00:44:39,552 --> 00:44:44,182 Governments exist with the will of the majority of the people. 752 00:44:44,265 --> 00:44:47,768 And I'm telling you if you complain, they will do something about it. 753 00:44:48,311 --> 00:44:51,480 So will the owners of the coal-fired power plants. That's happening. 754 00:44:51,564 --> 00:44:54,567 So then do you think your investment has been worth it? 755 00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:57,445 -Has it been successful? -Yes. 756 00:44:57,528 --> 00:44:59,113 From my personal point of view, 757 00:44:59,906 --> 00:45:02,909 what better thing could I do for my children? 758 00:45:02,992 --> 00:45:06,078 You want to go home and say to your kids, 759 00:45:06,162 --> 00:45:11,083 "Daddy could have made your life and your children's lives 760 00:45:11,167 --> 00:45:14,337 better and healthier, but he didn't want to spend the money." 761 00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:16,881 I don't want to have that conversation with my kids 762 00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:18,716 and you with yours. 763 00:45:18,799 --> 00:45:21,427 So how long are you committed to fighting this fight? 764 00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:24,305 Until it's won. 765 00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:38,611 China and the U.S. have ratified the Paris Climate Agreement. 766 00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:42,573 This is not a fight that any one country, 767 00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:44,659 no matter how powerful, can take alone. 768 00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:49,038 But now it's up to each partner to live up to its end of the bargain. 769 00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:53,167 I sit down with one of the key figures responsible 770 00:45:53,251 --> 00:45:55,670 for the U.S.-China partnership: 771 00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:58,631 Obama's former climate advisor, John Podesta. 772 00:45:58,714 --> 00:46:00,967 And joining us is Orville Schell, 773 00:46:01,050 --> 00:46:04,303 one of the world's leading experts on U.S.-China relations. 774 00:46:04,387 --> 00:46:09,684 I found it very refreshing to be in a country where everyone agreed 775 00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,310 that climate change was real 776 00:46:11,394 --> 00:46:15,898 but there seems to be tremendous pressure in China 777 00:46:15,982 --> 00:46:19,568 to keep economic progress rolling along. 778 00:46:19,652 --> 00:46:24,365 Can we trust them to do what they say they're going to do? 779 00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:29,287 There's always the question of if in an economy is slowing down, 780 00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:32,039 will they continue that commitment? 781 00:46:32,123 --> 00:46:35,042 They don't make idle public commitments. 782 00:46:35,126 --> 00:46:38,170 This was done at the standing committee level, 783 00:46:38,254 --> 00:46:41,465 endorsed by The People's Congress. 784 00:46:41,549 --> 00:46:44,218 They don't do that unless they mean it. 785 00:46:44,302 --> 00:46:49,056 The entire fundament of the Chinese Communist Party's rule 786 00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:51,309 is on delivering economically. 787 00:46:51,392 --> 00:46:54,478 So if push comes to shove, we're going to run into problems. 788 00:46:54,562 --> 00:47:00,609 I think that's why we have to constantly monitor and verify 789 00:47:00,693 --> 00:47:02,695 that the actions are taking place. 790 00:47:03,279 --> 00:47:09,285 Even in that context their growth is going to be in clean energy. 791 00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:14,749 Making it ever more cheaper to shift to clean energy sources. 792 00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:18,377 That will help us, that will help people all around the world, 793 00:47:18,461 --> 00:47:24,967 as these two gigantic economies move forward in unison to decarbonize. 794 00:47:25,051 --> 00:47:28,763 China is not going to move on climate if the U.S. doesn't. 795 00:47:29,555 --> 00:47:32,058 And the U.S. is not going to move if China doesn't. 796 00:47:32,141 --> 00:47:36,729 -So we're in this kind of strange... -Minuet. 797 00:47:36,812 --> 00:47:38,856 -We're married. -Yeah. 798 00:47:38,939 --> 00:47:41,859 We wanted ambition from China, 799 00:47:41,942 --> 00:47:45,321 they wanted to see real commitment from the United States. 800 00:47:45,404 --> 00:47:47,406 We're headed in the right direction, 801 00:47:47,490 --> 00:47:50,368 we just need to accelerate the pace of the movement. 802 00:47:51,077 --> 00:47:53,579 Lots of Chinese would agree with that. 803 00:47:54,663 --> 00:47:58,000 Back in Hong Kong, where people are more free to speak openly, 804 00:47:58,084 --> 00:47:59,460 they're doing just that. 805 00:48:00,044 --> 00:48:02,254 The government should be doing a lot of things, 806 00:48:02,338 --> 00:48:03,881 but they are not doing enough. 807 00:48:03,964 --> 00:48:07,301 We as citizens we have to stand up, make our voice heard 808 00:48:07,385 --> 00:48:10,429 we are ready to sacrifice our short term economic interest 809 00:48:10,513 --> 00:48:12,348 for the long term welfare. 810 00:48:12,932 --> 00:48:15,851 Before I left, I met these climate activists 811 00:48:15,935 --> 00:48:18,771 with the local chapter of 350.org. 812 00:48:19,313 --> 00:48:21,732 Excuse me. Is this the meeting for the march? 813 00:48:21,816 --> 00:48:24,443 Oh yes! Hi Sigourney. Hi welcome! 814 00:48:26,695 --> 00:48:28,364 Ringo and Eddy. 815 00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:30,491 -You've come to the right place. -Thank you. 816 00:48:31,409 --> 00:48:34,245 We're planning the preparations for tomorrow's parade. 817 00:48:34,328 --> 00:48:37,415 -Tomorrow's the bomb parade. -It that what that is? 818 00:48:37,498 --> 00:48:42,086 Ringo and Eddy are organizing a march using fake atomic bombs 819 00:48:42,169 --> 00:48:45,047 which represent the amount of heat trapped in the atmosphere 820 00:48:45,131 --> 00:48:46,549 by global warming, 821 00:48:46,632 --> 00:48:50,970 the equivalent of 4 Hiroshima bombs every second! 822 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,475 Eddy is a former meteorologist and Ringo worked for a toy company. 823 00:48:57,226 --> 00:49:00,688 They are united in their passion to fight climate change. 824 00:49:01,397 --> 00:49:04,608 We really want the young people to organize their own movement, 825 00:49:04,692 --> 00:49:07,278 own action. That's the whole idea. 826 00:49:07,862 --> 00:49:11,490 I work on climate change in America 827 00:49:11,574 --> 00:49:15,035 and sometimes it just seems kind of hopeless. 828 00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:19,915 How do you keep your spirits up? 'Cause you're very positive guys. 829 00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:21,792 You first. 830 00:49:21,876 --> 00:49:27,047 I think the momentum has been building up gradually, gradually. 831 00:49:27,131 --> 00:49:29,258 We think this is the priority of the world. 832 00:49:29,842 --> 00:49:31,760 Of course as a man of science 833 00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:35,556 we look at the data actually I am on the pessimistic side, 834 00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:37,099 I have to be frank. 835 00:49:37,183 --> 00:49:39,935 But as a human being I am always optimistic. 836 00:49:40,019 --> 00:49:42,021 -Yeah. -That's the spirit. 837 00:49:42,104 --> 00:49:43,481 Yes. 838 00:49:47,526 --> 00:49:50,988 In the U.S., thanks in part to the Beyond Coal campaign, 839 00:49:51,071 --> 00:49:54,700 242 plants have closed, or will soon, 840 00:49:54,783 --> 00:49:57,453 but 281 remain. 841 00:49:57,536 --> 00:50:00,164 And the coal industry is fighting regulations 842 00:50:00,247 --> 00:50:02,458 at all levels of government. 843 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:08,130 In Waukegan, NRG's new CEO still hasn't come to talk to the activists 844 00:50:08,214 --> 00:50:10,716 many months after he promised to do so. 845 00:50:11,926 --> 00:50:16,138 But Rita Mayfield and 26 other local and state representatives 846 00:50:16,222 --> 00:50:18,724 eventually signed the letter to the company. 847 00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:21,143 Mayor Motley did not, 848 00:50:21,227 --> 00:50:23,604 and the Waukeganites want to make that an issue 849 00:50:23,687 --> 00:50:25,689 in his upcoming reelection campaign. 850 00:50:26,649 --> 00:50:28,275 Dulce hasn't lost hope 851 00:50:28,359 --> 00:50:31,278 that Ivan will grow up in a Waukegan without coal. 852 00:50:32,112 --> 00:50:36,200 And she's found a part of herself she never knew existed. 853 00:50:36,283 --> 00:50:42,540 I can be an agent of change and say this is wrong. 854 00:50:42,623 --> 00:50:47,127 This is what we need and we need it now and who's with me? 855 00:50:47,211 --> 00:50:48,587 Let's go. 856 00:50:48,671 --> 00:50:52,841 Have you ever even entertained the idea of 857 00:50:53,634 --> 00:50:56,136 how nice it would be to just give up the fight? 858 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,056 Never. 859 00:50:59,139 --> 00:51:03,811 We have the right to clean air and clean water. 860 00:51:04,562 --> 00:51:08,691 And we shouldn't even be fighting about it. 861 00:51:08,774 --> 00:51:10,943 Why is this such a struggle? 862 00:51:16,198 --> 00:51:19,702 The fight against climate change and the transition to cleaner energy 863 00:51:19,785 --> 00:51:21,495 is messy and difficult. 864 00:51:22,621 --> 00:51:25,416 But there's so much to be hopeful about. 865 00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:28,127 Ordinary people, like those in Waukegan, 866 00:51:28,210 --> 00:51:32,006 are doing what they can to take on climate change, 867 00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:34,008 in their corner of the world. 868 00:51:38,971 --> 00:51:43,267 I'm reminded of an ancient Chinese proverb that says: 869 00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:48,897 be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. 870 00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:53,652 For now, at least, the U.S. and China are moving together. 871 00:51:54,486 --> 00:51:57,823 But, if President-elect Trump has his way, 872 00:51:57,906 --> 00:52:02,411 he is likely to undo this hard won partnership with the Chinese. 873 00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:07,416 Once again, we could be standing still on a melting planet. 874 00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:11,337 Are we really going to let that happen? 875 00:52:12,338 --> 00:52:15,466 Subtitles: Amaury Pinos plint.com 79080

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