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Ford: PREVIOUSLY ON "YEARS
OF LIVING DANGEROUSLY"...

20% OF ALL THE EMISSIONS
COME FROM DEFORESTATION.

Man: ...INCREASING RATES OF LOSS
IS INDONESIA.

Man #2: THEY CLEAR FOR TWO
PRODUCTS -- PALM OIL AND PAPER.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH ON EVERY AISLE
OF MOST SUPERMARKETS --

CANDY BARS,
COOKIES, CHEEZ-ITS.

IT'S NOT THE OIL THAT'S BAD.
IT'S HOW THE OIL IS PRODUCED.

ONE OF THE BIG SOURCES
OF CORRUPTION

IS ACTUALLY THE FORESTRY SECTOR.

Ford: THIS IS HORRIFYING.

WOW.

OH, I CAN'T WAIT

TO SEE THE MINISTER
OF FORESTRY.

I CAN'T WAIT!

[ BIRDS CHIRPING ]

[ SIRENS WAILING,
HELICOPTER PASSING ]

WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR
OF CALIFORNIA,

I WATCHED OVER 5 MILLION ACRES
OF FOREST IN MY STATE BURN.

THE BLAZES SEEMED TO BE GETTING
BIGGER AND BIGGER,

AND FIRE SEASON
SEEMED TO LAST ALL YEAR.

WHAT ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR
OF THE FIRE?

WHAT HAVE YOU NOTICED AS FAR
AS CHANGES ARE CONCERNED?

BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME
A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW

ARE TALKING ABOUT
FIRE SEASON'S LONGER,

THE FIRES
ARE MORE INTENSE.

WHAT CHANGES
HAVE YOU SEEN?

I STARTED FIGHTING FIRES
IN '87.

I LIKE TO LOOK AT AN EXAMPLE
OF THE DUDE FIRE,

AND I THINK THAT WAS
LIKE 20,000 ACRES.

AND IT BLEW OUR MINDS
AT THAT TIME,

BEING A VERY LARGE FIRE.

AND NOWADAYS, WE'RE SEEING
SOME 400,000-ACRE FIRES.

HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IT HAS
TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING?

YOU CAN'T DENY THE FACT THAT
IT'S GETTING WARMER AND DRYER.

AND WE'RE SEEING IT
IN THE EFFECTS

OF THE WILDLAND FIRES.

I'VE SEEN THE AFTERMATH
OF PLENTY OF WILDFIRES,

BUT I'VE NEVER HAD THE CHANCE
TO SEE WHAT IT IS LIKE

TO FIGHT THESE MEGA FIRES
ON THE GROUND...

UNTIL NOW.

[ BIRDS CHIRPING ]

[ ANIMALS CHATTERING ]

Ford: I'M IN INDONESIA

TO MORE FULLY UNDERSTAND

THE DEFORESTATION
THAT'S GOING ON HERE.

[ GRUNTING ]

IT'S AN URGENT ISSUE
BECAUSE DESTROYING FORESTS

EMITS ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT
OF GREENHOUSE GASES

AS THE WORLD'S ENTIRE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR.

AND I'M LEARNING THAT
DEFORESTATION HAS OTHER VICTIMS.

ONCE YOU'VE SEEN THEM
SITTING BEHIND BARS LIKE THIS,

IT SORT OF
BRINGS THE REALITY HOME.

[ CAGE CLANKING ]

I HEAR YOU, MAN.
[ CHUCKLES ]

[ CHATTERS ]

[ RAPID THEME MUSIC PLAYS ]

Woman: THIS REPORT CONSTITUTES
AN ALARM-CLOCK MOMENT

FOR THE WORLD,

BECAUSE THIS REPORT
WILL TELL US, AGAIN,

THAT EVERYTHING WE THOUGHT
WE KNEW ON CLIMATE CHANGE

HAS ACTUALLY BEEN
UNDERESTIMATED,

THAT THE EFFECTS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE WILL BE UPON US

FASTER AND IN A MORE INTENSE
FASHION THAN WE HAD THOUGHT.

President H.W. Bush: WE ALL KNOW
THAT HUMAN ACTIVITIES

ARE CHANGING THE ATMOSPHERE

IN UNEXPECTED
AND IN UNPRECEDENTED WAYS.

Man: ...THAT THE GREENHOUSE
EFFECT HAS BEEN DETECTED,

AND IT IS CHANGING
OUR CLIMATE NOW.

Man #2: THE ATMOSPHERE AND OCEAN
HAVE WARMED.

THE AMOUNT OF SNOW AND ICE
HAVE DIMINISHED.

SEA LEVEL HAS RISEN,

AND THE CONCENTRATIONS
OF GREENHOUSE GASES HAVE...

Schwarzenegger:
THERE IS NO MORE FIRE SEASON.

WE HAVE WILDFIRES
ALL YEAR 'ROUND.

Man #3: CLIMATE CHANGE,
EXTREME WEATHER --

AND OUR VULNERABILITY TO IT.

Man #4:
...WHERE 12 YEARS OF DROUGHT HAS
LEFT THE LANDSCAPE BONE-DRY.

Man #5: WE GOT ANY PATRIOTS
IN THE CROWD?!

Woman #2: A NEW SCIENTIFIC
REPORT HAS DETERMINED

THE LAST DECADE WAS THE WARMEST
ON RECORD.

Man #6:
OUR WORLD IS CHANGING FASTER

AND MORE DRAMATICALLY
THAN EVER BEFORE.

PEOPLE OFTEN ASK ME
WHY A REPUBLICAN LIKE ME

CARES ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE.

BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT POLITICS.

WHEN I FIRST BECAME GOVERNOR
OF CALIFORNIA,

CLIMATE CHANGE WASN'T REALLY ONE
OF MY PRIORITIES.

SO WHEN FIRE SEASON STARTED,

MY FOCUS WAS ON GRIEVING
FAMILIES AND REBUILDING.

Newscaster:
GOVERNOR ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER
VISITED WITH EVACUEES

AND PRAISED FIREFIGHTERS
FOR THEIR WORK.

Schwarzenegger:
I, IN MY MOVIES, PLAYED HEROES,

BUT THESE FIREFIGHTERS
ARE TRUE HEROES.

BUT AS I WATCHED CALIFORNIA

EXPERIENCE THE WORST WILDFIRES
EVER RECORDED,

I STARTED TO WONDER
WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

Man: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
MR. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER.

Schwarzenegger:
AND NOW SINCE I'M OUT OF OFFICE,

I'VE MADE IT MY MISSION

TO FIND OUT WHAT ROLE CLIMATE
CHANGE PLAYS IN THESE FIRES.

IF WE DO NOTHING,

WE ARE ON TRACK
FOR A TEMPERATURE INCREASE

OF 3.6 TO 5.3 DEGREES CELSIUS
BY THE END OF THIS CENTURY.

WE HAVE SEEN IN CALIFORNIA
ALREADY THE CHANGES.

THERE IS NO MORE FIRE SEASON.

WE HAVE WILDFIRES
ALL YEAR 'ROUND.

I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT THIS ALL MEANS

FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO RISK
EVERYTHING TO FIGHT THESE FIRES.

I WANT TO GO RIGHT UP
TO THE FIRE LINE

AND SEE IT THROUGH THEIR EYES.

THIS YEAR,
A TEAM OF ELITE FIREFIGHTERS

GAVE ME THAT CHANCE.

MY NAME IS RANDY ANDERSON.

I'VE BEEN A HOTSHOT
FOR 24 YEARS.

THE DEFINITION OF A HOTSHOT CREW

IS A FULL-TIME FIRE-SUPPRESSION
CREW OF 20 TO 25.

WE READY?

OUR SPECIALTY IS GOING
TO THE ROUGHER TERRAIN...

38.41, 38.42, 38.43.

...WHERE ENGINES
CAN'T EASILY ACCESS.

Schwarzenegger: THE SNAKE RIVER
HOTSHOTS OUT OF IDAHO

ARE ONE OF THE 100-PLUS
ELITE FIREFIGHTING TEAMS

THAT WERE CREATED
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

TO ACT AS THE LAST LINE
OF DEFENSE

BETWEEN ORDINARY PEOPLE
AND MASSIVE WILDFIRES.

MAN: You guys are not
in a great spot right now.

I'd just try to head downrange
as fast as I could.

I'm sure you can see that.
Man: SHIT!

LET'S GO! FOLLOWING ME!
LET'S GO! MOVE IT!

Schwarzenegger: GETTING READY
FOR FIRE SEASON

MEANS INTENSE PHYSICAL TRAINING.

BY THE TIME THE SEASON STARTS,

THE HOTSHOTS WILL BE BACK
IN PEAK CONDITION,

READY AGAIN TO BATTLE ENORMOUS
WILDLAND BLAZES

AND READY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES
IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG.

Man: DEPLOY, DEPLOY!
SHELTERS NOW!

MOVE IT! MOVE IT! MOVE IT!
LET'S GO!

Schwarzenegger:
BUT IF THIS FIRE SEASON

IS ANYTHING LIKE LAST SEASON --
ONE OF THE WORST IN HISTORY --

THE HOTSHOTS WILL AGAIN
BE PUT TO THE TEST.

Newscaster: FIRES RUNNING WILD,
THREATENING HUNDREDS OF HOMES.

Man:
GET OUT, GUYS! GO!

PLUMES CAN NOW BE SEEN
FROM SPACE.

Female reporter:
THIS YEAR'S 32,000 WILDFIRES

AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE BURNED
AN AREA THE SIZE OF CONNECTICUT.

THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE SAYS

ITS BILLION-DOLLAR FIREFIGHTING
BUDGET IS NEARLY TAPPED OUT,

AND IT'S DIVERTING MONEY
FROM OTHER AREAS

TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.

Schwarzenegger:
MORE THAN 9 MILLION ACRES

ACROSS AMERICA BURNED THAT YEAR,

AND NOW THE HOTSHOTS ARE BRACING
FOR ANOTHER BRUTAL SEASON.

Woman:
IF YOU HAD BEEN OR PLAN TO BE

INVOLVED IN WILDLAND
FIREFIGHTING,

IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND
THE FIRE-BEHAVIOR HISTORY

OF THE AREA YOU FIGHT FIRE IN.

RIGHT BEFORE THEY DEPLOY,

THE HOTSHOTS ARE REMINDED
THAT FIGHTING FIRES IS NO GAME.

IN THE PAST 20 YEARS,

MORE THAN 350
WILDLAND FIREFIGHTERS

HAVE DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

...FIRE OVERRAN
AND KILLED TWO FIREFIGHTERS.

Man:
THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID.

SOMETHING'S HAPPENING
WITH THAT FIRE BEHAVIOR

THAT, FOR SOME REASON,
THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING.

AND THEN IT HAPPENS,
AND THEY GET CAUGHT.

Man #2: I DON'T THINK "SCARY"
IS THE RIGHT WORD.

"DANGEROUS" -- DEFINITELY.

Man #3:
YEAH, YOU GOT TO BE SCARED.

YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO BE --
YOU GOT TO RESPECT FIRE.

Man #4: FIRE MOVED ABOUT
500 OR 600 ACRES AN HOUR.

TODAY'S WINDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
PREDICTED EVEN HIGHER.

460 TOTAL HOMES
EVACUATED AT THIS TIME.

WHEN WE'RE DONE BY THE CLOSE
OF BUSINESS TODAY,

I'D ESTIMATE WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE
600 FIREFIGHTERS ON THE GROUND.

THEY'RE WORKING 24 HOURS
A DAY -- TWO SHIFTS --

A DAY SHIFT AND A NIGHT SHIFT.

Schwarzenegger:
IT'S LATE JULY,

AND I'M JOINING
THE SNAKE RIVER HOTSHOTS

AS THEY'RE DEPLOYED TO MONTANA.

THERE'S A WILDFIRE
IN THE MOUNTAINS

HEADED STRAIGHT FOR THE TOWN
OF SUPERIOR.

Man #5: YOU GOT SOME TOUGH WORK
AHEAD OF YOU.

KEEP YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME.
LISTEN TO YOUR DIVISION SUPES.

LISTEN TO YOUR LEADERS.
HAVE YOUR PLAN IN PLACE.

AND BE READY FOR THE UNEXPECTED.

Schwarzenegger: I'M AMAZED
AT HOW MANY PEOPLE IT TAKES

TO FIGHT A 21st-CENTURY FIRE.

THIS CAMP, I'M TOLD,
HAS ALMOST 1,000 PEOPLE --

COOKS, MAINTENANCE WORKERS,

LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS,
HELI-TECH PILOTS, AND HOTSHOTS.

HEY, GUYS, HOW ARE YOU?
GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?

NICE TO MEET YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.

HEY. I HOPE YOU HAVE
A GOOD DRIVER.

[ LAUGHTER ]

OKAY, GOOD.
WHAT CARS ARE YOU GUYS USING?

WHAT IS IT?
A RAM?

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY
PROTECTION -- FIRE PROTECTION?

DO THEY BUILD
ANYTHING SPECIAL?

NO, HUH?

SO YOU JUST KEEP IT
OUT OF THE FLAMES.

[ LAUGHTER ]

IT'S A 10-MILE RIDE TO THE FIRE,

WHICH GIVES ME A CHANCE
TO ASK THESE GUYS

HOW THEY FEEL
ABOUT THE FIRE SEASON.

Man:
FROM THIS PLATFORM,

WE'RE READY TO BE OUT
ON ASSIGNMENT

FOR TWO WEEKS AT A TIME.

RIGHT.

TWO WEEKS AT A TIME?
YEAH.

IT MUST TAKE A REAL TOLL
ON THE FAMILY.

I MEAN, BECAUSE
THERE'S NOT MANY PEOPLE

THAT WOULD PUT UP WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW, THEY'D SAY, "BYE.

I'LL SEE YOU IN 14 DAYS,"

OR, "I'LL SEE YOU IN A MONTH"
OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT
TAKES A WHILE TO GET USED TO,

BEING ON THE ROAD AND BEING AWAY
FROM FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

YEAH.

THERE'S DEFINITELY
A SACRIFICE TO IT.

AND THEN WHEN
THE FIRE SEASON IS OVER,

THEN WHAT DO YOU DO
AFTER THAT?

THIS PARTICULAR SEASON,
I'M GONNA GO GET MARRIED.

AFTERWARDS.
YEP.

DIRECTLY FOLLOWING
THE SEASON,

I'M GETTING MARRIED
IN THE BACKYARD OF MY HOUSE.

I LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN
ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE TETONS.

THAT'S GREAT.

ANOTHER GUY TELLS ME
ABOUT HIS NEW BABY AT HOME

THAT HE'S BARELY SEEN.

I REALIZE EVERYONE HERE
HAS SOMETHING ON THE LINE.

BEFORE LONG, THE SMOKE IS
SO THICK IT BLOCKS OUT THE SUN,

AND IT'S HARD TO THINK
ABOUT ANYTHING

BUT THE FIRE THAT AWAITS US.

[ FIRE CRACKLING ]

[ ORANGUTAN CHATTERING ]

HOW MANY ANIMALS
ARE ON THE ISLAND?

WE'VE GOT 50 AT THE MOMENT.

Ford:
LONE DROESCHER NIELSEN

FOUNDED THIS REFUGE
15 YEARS AGO.

SINCE THEN, MORE THAN 1,000
ORANGUTANS HAVE COME HERE

BECAUSE THE FORESTS
WHERE THEY LIVED

WERE BURNED TO THE GROUND

TO MAKE ROOM FOR PALM OIL
AND OTHER INDUSTRIES.

SHE HAS
A 2-YEAR-OLD BABY.

YOU SEE THE BABY
IS WITH HER?

Man: OH, LOOK AT THAT BABY.
WOW.

Ford: NOW THEY HAVE
NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

Nielsen:
THEY'RE VERY SMALL BABIES.

THEY ACTUALLY USED TO STAY
IN MY HOUSE.

I HAD UP TO LIKE 36 BABIES
IN MY HOUSE, YES.

[ CHUCKLES ]

Nielsen: HELLO!

Ford: HI, MILANI.

MILANI.

HEY, MILANI.

HI.

DO YOU WANT MY HAT?

AW.

Nielsen:
THAT'S AN ORANGUTAN GREETING.

SHE'S TAKING YOUR HAND
AND SNIFF IT.

WHEN YOU LOOK IN THOSE EYES,

IT'S LIKE THEY
TAKE YOU SOMEWHERE.

I THINK SHE MIGHT HAVE
FALLEN IN LOVE.

[ LAUGHS ]

Nielsen: EVERY SINGLE ORANGUTAN
THAT HAS COME IN TO THE CENTER,

THEIR MOTHER HAS BEEN KILLED.

Ford:
WHO KILLED THEIR MOTHERS?

THE PALM-OIL INDUSTRY
USED TO PAY --

WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF
THAT THEY'RE STILL DOING THIS --

BUT WHEN THEY STARTED OPENING UP
BACK IN 2002, 2003, 2004,

THEY WERE PAYING AWARDS
TO THE LOCAL PEOPLE

FOR KILLING ORANGUTANS.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T
JUST TURN THEM AWAY

AND THROW THEM OUT, CAN YOU?

FIRST WE TOOK THEIR HOME AWAY,
THEN THEY KILLED THE MOTHERS.

AND ARE WE THEN GONNA SAY,
"NO, THEY'RE NOT WORTH IT"?

DURING JUNE,

THERE WERE ALMOST 10,000
HOT SPOTS IN ONLY ONE MONTH.

Ford: I'M SEEING THE EXTENT
OF THE DESTRUCTION

AT A 200,000-ACRE NATIONAL PARK
CALLED TESSO NILO.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED,

BUT THAT HASN'T STOPPED
PALM-OIL INTERESTS

FROM INVADING THE PARK,

TORCHING, AND SETTING UP
THEIR PLANTATIONS IN THE ASHES.

AND APPARENTLY,
THERE'S BIG MONEY BEHIND IT.

TO ESTABLISH AN OIL-PALM
PLANTATION,

WE CALCULATE THAT YOU NEED
$5 MILLION TO DO SO.

WOW. WELL, YOU DON'T INVEST
$5 MILLION IN SOMETHING

UNLESS IT'S
A LEAD-PIPE CINCH --

THAT IT'S GONNA -- THAT YOU'RE
GONNA GET AWAY WITH IT.

SO THERE MUST BE SOME PROTECTION
AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

THEY'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT

THAT THERE'S GONNA BE
ANY ENFORCEMENT

OR ANY KIND OF PUNISHMENT
FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

OH, MAN.

Ford: TWO MEMBERS
OF LOCAL PARLIAMENTS

ARE BEING INVESTIGATED
FOR OWNERSHIP

OF PLANTATIONS INSIDE THE PARK.

AND IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT.

A COMPANY CALLED WILMAR,

WHICH TRADES ALMOST HALF
THE WORLD'S PALM OIL,

HAS A MILL NEAR THE PARK

AND HAD BEEN BUYING FROM
THE ILLEGAL PLANTATIONS.

WILMAR SUPPLIES EVERYONE
FROM NABISCO TO GILLETTE,

SO THERE'S EVEN A CHANCE
THAT SOME TESSO NILO PALM OIL

HAS MADE ITS WAY
TO YOUR LOCAL SUPERMARKET.

IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS

SINCE THE PRESIDENT HERE

DECLARED A MORATORIUM
ON DEFORESTATION,

AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY
BEING IGNORED.

DRIVING THROUGH ONE PATCH

OF BURNED-DOWN FOREST
AFTER ANOTHER,

I'M MORE AND MORE OUTRAGED.

THESE TREES USED TO STORE
VAST AMOUNTS OF CARBON,

BUT NOW ALL THAT CARBON
IS IN THE ATMOSPHERE,

WARMING THE PLANET EVEN MORE.

BACK AT TESSO NILO
NATIONAL PARK,

I'M JOINED BY
KUNTORO MANGKUSUBROTO,

INDONESIA'S TOP OFFICIAL

IN CHARGE OF COMBATING
DEFORESTATION AND CORRUPTION.

Ford:
THIS IS A NATIONAL PARK.

THIS IS SUPPOSED
TO BE CONTROLLED

BY THE GOVERNMENT, RIGHT?

HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?
I MEAN...

VERY SAD.

WATCHING THIS HAPPENING HERE
IN FRONT OF OUR EYES

MAKE VERY SAD.

KUNTORO WISHES HE COULD DO MORE
TO STOP WHAT'S HAPPENING,

BUT DESPITE
HIS IMPRESSIVE TITLE,

HE DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER
TO ENFORCE THE LAW.

I'M TOLD THAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS
OF ILLEGAL OPERATIONS.

WHY ISN'T IT BEING STOPPED?

CORRUPTION IS THE REAL ENEMY
OF A GOOD SYSTEM.

YOU ISSUE
AN ILLEGAL LICENSE.

YOU PERMIT THEM
TO OPERATE LIKE THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE
ANY ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS.

WAIT. YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING
THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

YOU SAID, "YOU ISSUE THEM
AN ILLEGAL LICENSE."

THEY CAN GIVE A LICENSE

TO SOMEBODY IN VIOLATION
OF THE RULES?

SOME OF THEM HAVE LICENSE,
SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE LICENSE.

RIGHT.
THOSE WHO HAVE LICENSE

SOMETIMES THEIR LICENSE IS
OVERLAPPED WITH ANOTHER LICENSE.

SO THAT'S ILLEGAL.

BUT THE MINISTER
OF FORESTRY WAS HERE.

HE CAME IN A HELICOPTER,
AND HE MET PEOPLE,

AND HE SAW
WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE.

DIDN'T HE HAVE THE POWER
OR THE AUTHORITY

TO STOP
WHAT WAS HAPPENING?

HE HAS THE POWER
TO STOP IT.

HE DOES HAVE
THE POWER TO STOP.

WELL, HE DIDN'T.
HE DIDN'T.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF
HOW DO YOU EXERCISE THE POWER.

[ TRUCK BEEPING ]

Schwarzenegger:
AS WE APPROACH THE FIRE,

I CAN FEEL THE TENSION RISE.

THE HOTSHOTS TELL ME
THAT YOU NEVER KNOW

WHAT KIND OF A FIRE YOU WILL BE
FIGHTING UNTIL YOU GET THERE.

[ CHATTER ]

Anderson:
ON A TYPICAL FIRE,

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'LL DO
IS WALK AROUND IT,

YOU KNOW, AND EVALUATE IT
FIRST FOR SAFETY

AND MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE
TO BRING PEOPLE IN.

WOMAN: You guys
will be along the trail?

AND THEN WE'LL COME UP
WITH A PLAN

ON HOW WE'RE GONNA
SUPPRESS THE FIRE.

WE'RE GONNA PREP THIS ROAD

AND THEN POSSIBLY
BURN THIS UP TODAY.

SEE HOW THAT GOES.

IT'S A DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT.

YOU CAN GET SOMEONE
STRUCK BY LIGHTNING

OR HIT BY A TREE

OR HAVE A ROLLING ROCK COME
AND TAKE SOMEBODY OUT.

Man: STAY HEADS UP.
STILL A LOT OF SNAGS.

POSSIBLE DISTRACTIONS AROUND US.

DON'T LET IT GET TO YOU.
BUSINESS AS USUAL.

GET THIS WRAPPED UP
AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

WHAT ABOUT BRANCHES
FALLING DOWN?

WIDOW-MAKERS --
ANYTHING LIKE THAT --

WHAT DO YOU CALL --
WIDOW-MAKERS?

YEAH, WIDOW-MAKERS ARE BASICALLY
STICKS UP IN THE AIR.

ANYTHING THAT COULD FALL
AND POTENTIALLY,

YOU KNOW,
HURT OR KILL SOMEONE.

YEAH.

THESE GUYS
ARE WAITING ON THE ROAD.

WE'LL COME IN
A LITTLE WAYS.

Man:
YOU KNOW, OUR MAIN GOAL,

AS WITH ALL FIRE CREWS

IS INITIAL ATTACK AND TRYING
TO KEEP THEM SMALL.

[ GRUNTING ]

BUT USUALLY YOU'LL GET TO THE
BACK OF ONE OF THESE ROOT HOLES

AND END UP FINDING HEAT.

SO WHAT YOU DO --

THE BACK OF THE HAND'S
MORE SENSITIVE THAN THE PALM,

SO PULL YOUR GLOVE

AND JUST USE THE BACK OF
YOUR HAND TO FEEL FOR THE HEAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF HEAT
IN THIS ONE.

SO IF YOU CAN TAKE THE HEAT
OUT OF IT OR THE OXYGEN,

IT'S GONNA HELP
YOUR CAUSE THERE.

Schwarzenegger:
BY THE THIRD DAY,

THE FIRE IS ONLY 20% CONTAINED.

AND THEN A HEAT WAVE
OF HIGH-90-DEGREE WEATHER

CREATES THE PERFECT CONDITIONS
FOR IT TO SPREAD.

AND IT DOES,
DOWN THE MOUNTAIN

TOWARD THE MAIN STREETS
OF SUPERIOR.

Woman: FLAT CREEK ROAD
OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS

REMAINS CLOSED AND UNDER
MANDATORY EVACUATION.

Schwarzenegger: FOR HUNDREDS
OF EVACUATED HOMEOWNERS,

THE ONLY HOPE IS THAT THE
HOTSHOTS CAN STOP THE FLAMES

BEFORE THEY BURN
THROUGH THE TOWN.

[ SIREN WAILING ]

Ford: THIS PALM-OIL PLANTATION
IS OWNED BY FRANKY WIDJAJA,

ON OF INDONESIA'S RICHEST MEN.

HOW MANY ACRES
DO YOU HAVE HERE?

HE'S THE KING OF PALM OIL IN
A LAND WHERE PALM OIL IS KING.

INDONESIA EXPORTS
MORE OF THE STUFF

THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY
ON THE PLANET.

BUT DO YOU HAVE OTHER
PLANTATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY?

YES.

WOW, IT'S HUGE.

THAT'S WELL OVER
A MILLION ACRES.

WHAT USED TO BE HERE
BEFORE IT WAS PALM OIL?

MAYBE NOT THAT LONG AGO.

IN THE 1960s,

FORESTS COVERED MORE THAN 80%
OF THE COUNTRY.

NOW ALMOST HALF OF THAT IS GONE.

FOR YEARS,

THE GOVERNMENT ENCOURAGED
DEFORESTATION

BY TAKING LAND
FROM INDIGENOUS PEOPLE

AND LICENSING IT TO
COMPANIES LIKE SINARMAS,

THE CONGLOMERATE OWNED
BY THE WIDJAJAS.

THEY MADE BILLIONS
IN THE PROCESS.

BUT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS,

FRANKY WIDJAJA HAS TURNED OVER
A NEW LEAF.

HE'S PLEDGED TO STOP
DESTROYING FORESTS.

AND THAT'S WHY HE'S AGREED
TO SHOW ME HIS OPERATION.

HOW MANY TIMES DOES
A TREE GET HARVESTED?

THREE TIMES IN A MONTH?

WOW!

YEAH.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THE PROFIT.

Ford: PALM OIL'S MADE
A HUGE CONTRIBUTION

TO THE ECONOMY
OF INDONESIA,

BUT THERE'S ALSO
A FLIP SIDE, RIGHT?
YES.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION.

AND PARTICULARLY
DEFORESTATION,

WHICH HAS CONTRIBUTED
TO GREENHOUSE-GAS EMISSIONS,

AND SOME OF THE WEALTHIEST
PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY

WERE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE MOST DAMAGE.

I...MAY WANT
TO DISAGREE FOR THAT.

BECAUSE FOR THOSE BIG INDUSTRY
OR BIG CORPORATION,

CERTAINLY, THEY WANT
TO BE SUSTAINABLE.

NOW THEY DO.

NOW THEY DO.
YES.

DID THEY IN THE PAST?

WASN'T THERE AN ENDLESS SUPPLY
OF FOREST,

IN THEIR MINDS,

OR IN THE MINDS
OF THE GOVERNMENT,

AND THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT

TO GET AS MUCH INCOME
OUT OF THAT AREA?

AND DIDN'T
THE FOREST SUFFER?

AND DIDN'T YOUR FAMILY
GET ENRICHED

AND OTHER RICH PEOPLE
IN THIS COUNTRY --

HARDWORKING PEOPLE
BUT RICH PEOPLE?

DO YOU EVER FEEL GUILTY
ABOUT THAT?

AT THAT TIME, THE GOVERNMENT
SAID, "THIS IS OKAY.

YOU CAN DO THIS."
I KNOW THAT.

I'M ASKING YOU NOW.

EVEN BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT
ANNOUNCED FOR NON-BURNING,

WE ALREADY ANNOUNCE OURSELVES
TWO, THREE YEARS EARLIER.

FRANKY,
YOU'RE AN ENLIGHTENED MAN.

YOU KNOW THE SCIENCE.
YOU KNOW BUSINESS.

YOU HAVE A SENSE
OF SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

BUT STILL,
I'M ASKING THE QUESTION --

DO YOU FEEL GUILTY --
AT ALL?

IF YOU KNOW AND YOU DO IT,
THEN YOU FEEL GUILTY.

IF YOU DO NOT KNOW
AND YOU DO IT

AND YOU CORRECT IT
WHEN YOU KNOW IT,

THEN YOU DON'T HAVE
TO FEEL GUILTY.

BUT FRANKY DIDN'T JUST CHANGE

OUT OF THE GOODNESS
OF HIS HEART.

THAT'S ONLY PART OF THE STORY.

[ WHISTLE BLOWING ]

[ INDISTINCT SHOUTING ]

HE CLEANED UP HIS ACT

AFTER GREENPEACE TARGETED HIM
AND HIS COMPANY SINARMAS

AND GOT SOME OF THE WORLD'S
BIGGEST CORPORATIONS

TO STOP BUYING FROM HIM.

BUSTAR.
HARRISON.

HOW ARE YOU?
I'M GOOD, MAN.

BUSTAR MAITAR LED
THIS GREENPEACE CAMPAIGN

AND MANY OTHERS AND MADE A LOT
OF ENEMIES ALONG THE WAY.

YOU'VE HAD THREATS AGAINST
YOUR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY,

HAVEN'T YOU?

[ CHUCKLES ]

YES?

YES, YES, YES.

DO YOU
TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY?

I TAKE SERIOUSLY, BUT I'M NOT
TAKE THAT PERSONALLY.

[ LAUGHS ]
BECAUSE IF I TAKE
THAT PERSONALLY,

IT'S BECOME PERSONAL
TO PERSONAL, YOU KNOW?

YOU RECENTLY ENTERED
INTO AN AGREEMENT

WITH PERHAPS THE LARGEST
FAMILY-OWNED CONGLOMERATE HERE

WHO ARE THE MAJOR PRODUCERS
OF PALM OIL --

THE WIDJAJA FAMILY.

SINARMAS.
SINARMAS.

YOU WERE INSTRUMENTAL

IN PERSUADING THEM TO MAKE
CHANGES IN THEIR POLICY, RIGHT?

YEAH. AFTER ALMOST THREE
AND A HALF YEARS CAMPAIGN

BLOCKING THE TANKER
OF THE PALM OIL

IN THE BIGGEST PALM OIL PORT
IN INDONESIA,

WE GET THE ATTENTION
FROM THEM.

SO YOU DEALT DIRECTLY
WITH FRANKY WIDJAJA, RIGHT?

I MEET WITH PAK FRANKY WIDJAJA
A COUPLE OF TIMES.

AS A HUMAN BEING,

I THINK HE HAVE HEART ALSO TO --
TO PROTECTING OUR FOREST.

OF COURSE, ALSO,
AS A -- HE'S A BUSINESSMAN.

HE'S TALKING A LOT ABOUT
THE -- THE EMPLOYMENT,

THE ECONOMIC GROWTH,
AND THAT KIND OF THING,

BUT, IN THE END,
GOVERNMENT IS THE ONE

WHO SHOULD BE MANAGING THIS.

DO YOU THINK THAT
THE MINISTER OF FORESTRY

IS REALLY COMMITTED TO
THE POLICY OF DEFORESTATION?

I CAN SEE HE HAS HEART.
I TALK TO HIM QUITE A LOT.

RIGHT.

BUT IN INDONESIA ALSO IS LOT OF
POLITICS GOING ON.

RIGHT.

CORRUPTION,
LACK OF THE GOVERNANCE.

SO, IN TERMS OF TALKING,

HE IS SAYING
LOT OF THINGS GOOD.

BUT IN TERMS OF ACTION,
IT'S FAR AWAY.

IT SEEMS LIKE
THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF

IS A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM.

I HAVE A MEETING
WITH THE FORESTRY MINISTER.

I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

[ CHAINSAW BUZZING ]

Schwarzenegger: WITH FLAMES
RACING TOWARD SUPERIOR,

THE HOTSHOTS DECIDED
THAT A BACKFIRE

IS THE BEST CHANCE
FOR SAVING THE TOWN.

IT MEANS FIGHTING FIRE
WITH FIRE.

Anderson: YOU'RE BURNING THE
FUELS IN ADVANCE OF THE FIRE

SO WHEN THE FIRE GETS TO IT,
IT'S GONNA RUN OUT OF FUELS.

THE PLAN IS TO START BURNING
USING THE CREWS,

DRIP TORCHES HELD BY HAND.

Man: GOOD WORK, BOYS.

VERY NICE WORK.

Schwarzenegger:
THE PLAN WORKS.

THE BACKFIRE CUTS OFF THE PATH
OF THE FIRE.

NO HOMES ARE SERIOUSLY DAMAGED,

AND NO ONE IN THE TOWN
OF SUPERIOR IS HURT.

BACK IN CAMP,
I BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF

UNTIL I REMEMBER THAT THIS IS
ONLY ONE FIREFIGHT

IN A LONG SEASON.

BUT AS THE HOTSHOTS PREPARE
FOR THE FIRE STILL AHEAD,

I LEARN THAT IN ANOTHER FOREST,

SCIENTISTS ARE LOOKING BACK
INTO THE PAST,

TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW FIRES
ARE CHANGING.

DR. TOM SWETNAM
HAS SPENT THE LAST 30 YEARS

STUDYING THE LINK BETWEEN
GLOBAL WARMING AND FIRE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY
HIS SECOND CAREER.

HE USED TO BE A HOTSHOT.

THERE'S ONE THERE.

LET'S CUT IT
AND TAKE A LOOK.

Swetnam: I'VE BEEN AROUND FOREST
AND FIRE ALL MY LIFE,

AND I APPRECIATE FIRE
AS REALLY A BEAUTIFUL THING.

BUT THEN I CAN SEE
THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.

IT CAN BE GOOD,
AND IT CAN BE BAD.

AND IN THIS PLACE,
IT'S DONE BAD, I'M AFRAID.

Schwarzenegger:
SWETNAM LOOKS FOR CLUES

BURIED DEEP INSIDE THE TREES.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS IS THE MOMENT OF TRUTH.

EACH RING IS A YEAR
IN THE TREE'S LIFE,

AND EACH CAPTURES AN ENTIRE YEAR
OF CLIMATE HISTORY.

WHEN THE TREE WAS A YOUNG TREE,
SMALL TREE,

IT HAS FIRE THAT KILLS IT
RIGHT THERE,

AND THEN IT GROWS AROUND --

THE RINGS GROW AROUND
UNTIL THE NEXT FIRE HERE.

OVER THE COURSE OF HIS CAREER,

SWETNAM HAS GATHERED THE LARGEST

TREE-RING COLLECTION
IN THE WORLD --

OVER 2 MILLION OF THEM,

WITH SAMPLES GOING BACK
3,000 YEARS.

IT BECOMES HARD, DOWN TO THE
LEVEL OF AN INDIVIDUAL FIRE,

TO SAY, "THAT BIG FIRE

WAS CAUSED BECAUSE
OF CLIMATE CHANGE."

BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT IT
OVER REALLY BIG AREAS,

LIKE THE WHOLE OF
THE WESTERN UNITED STATES

OR ALL OF CANADA OR RUSSIA,

AND YOU SEE THAT THE TEMPERATURE
TRENDS ARE IN THE SAME WAY

IN ALL OF THE PLACES

AND THAT THEY'RE
CLOSELY COUPLED,

THE SMOKING GUN
IS BASICALLY THERE.

SO, GETTING HOTTER,
GETTING DRYER,

AND THE FIRES ARE JUST GOING
RIGHT UP ALONG WITH THAT.

Schwarzenegger: SWETNAM SAYS
THAT BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING,

MOUNTAIN SNOW NOW MELTS
EARLIER EACH YEAR,

AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS,

THE GROUND DRIES UP
EARLIER, TOO,

LEADING TO WORSE AND WORSE
FIRE CONDITIONS.

THE END RESULT --

TODAY'S FIRE SEASON
IS NOW 2 1/2 MONTHS LONGER

THAN IT WAS
JUST A FEW DECADES AGO.

AND WITH THAT, THE NUMBER
OF ACRES BURNED HAS SHOT UP.

ON AVERAGE, FIRES ARE SIX TIMES
MORE DESTRUCTIVE TODAY.

IT CAN ALL BE SEEN
IN THE TREE RINGS.

Swetnam:
NO ONE REMEMBERS,

IN LIVING MEMORY
OF PEOPLE LIVING TODAY,

OF THE KIND OF SCALE
AND FEROCITY OF THE FIRES

THAT WE'RE SEEING
IN THESE LANDSCAPES.

LET'S GO FIND SOME MORE.

Schwarzenegger: AND SWETNAM
DISCOVERED SOMETHING ELSE

THAT I THINK IS
EVEN MORE SHOCKING --

TODAY'S FIRES ARE SO BIG
AND SO HOT

THAT THEY BURN THROUGH THE SOIL,

AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS,
THE SOIL MORE EASILY ERODES.

IN THIS NEAR-APOCALYPTIC
ENVIRONMENT,

IT CAN TAKE TREES UP TO
1,000 YEARS TO GROW BACK.

Swetnam:
THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE NORM.

THIS IS CATASTROPHIC.

Ford: FINALLY, I'M MEETING
THE FORESTRY MINISTER.

I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

WHAT'S BLOCKING THE EFFORT
TO SAVE THAT PEAT FOREST?

WHY?

WHY IS TESSO NILO ALMOST GONE?

WHAT ABOUT THE CORRUPTION,
THE DEVASTATION...

...THE COMPLETE LACK
OF ENFORCEMENT?

MINISTER, THANK YOU FOR TAKING
THE TIME WITH US.

WE'VE BEEN TRAVELING
AROUND YOUR COUNTRY

FOR THE PAST
COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM.

IN THE LAST 15 YEARS,

80% OF THE FOREST HAS BEEN
COMMERCIALLY EXPLOITED,

AND WHEN YOU ASK
MANY INDONESIANS

WHY THIS HAS TAKEN PLACE,

THEY SAY, SIR, THAT THERE'S
TOO STRONG A CONNECTION

BETWEEN BUSINESS AND POLITICS
IN THIS COUNTRY.

ONE PROJECT TO PRESERVE
A PEAT-LAND FOREST

HAS BEEN SEEKING APPROVAL
FOR MANY YEARS.

THE LAST STEP IN THE PROCESS

IS YOUR SIGNATURE, SIR.

WILL YOU SIGN THE PAPER
THAT WILL ALLOW THEM

TO PRESERVE THIS CRITICAL
NATURAL RESOURCE?

YOU ARE WILLING
TO SIGN THE PAPER

TO GIVE THEM 50%
OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN?

WE WERE IN TESSO NILO...

TESSO NILO.
[ LAUGHS ]

...NATIONAL PARK.
OKAY.

IT'S NOT FUNNY.
YEAH.

IT'S NOT FUNNY.

ONLY 18% OF IT REMAINS.

WE SAW IT.
THERE ARE NEW ROADS --

NEW ILLEGAL ROADS,

FORESTS CUT,
TREES LAYING ON THE GROUND,

BURNT WHERE THEY FELL.

IT'S DEVASTATING.
IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE IT.

YOU SAW IT.

YOU PLEDGED A RESOLUTION.

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

SIR, THEY DIDN'T DROP OUT
OF THE SKY ON THIS PROPERTY!

THEY CAME THERE
OVER A PERIOD OF TIME,

AND THERE WAS PLENTY OF TIME
TO STOP THE BEHAVIOR,

STOP THE ACTIVITY!

SO YOU'RE --
YEAH, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

YOU'RE WILLING
TO LOSE THE BATTLE.

IS THAT WHAT
YOU'RE TELLING ME?
YEAH.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

I SEE ALL OF THIS WEALTH,

BUT IT'S AT THE TOP
OF THE HEAP.

DOWN AT THE BOTTOM
OF THE HEAP, SIR,

THERE'S INEQUITY,

THERE'S ILLEGALITY,
AND THERE'S CORRUPTION.

MM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[ SPEAKS NATIVE LANGUAGE ]

Williams:
SUCH A STAGGERING NUMBER.

PEOPLE WONDERED IF WHAT THEY
WERE HEARING WAS CORRECT.

19 FIREFIGHTERS DEAD,

ALL OF THEM GONE AS A RESULT
OF A SINGLE FIRE IN ARIZONA.

Male reporter: THE MEN WERE
TRYING TO HELP GET THE BLAZE

UNDER CONTROL WHEN THE FIRE
SUDDENLY SHIFTED,

TAKING THEM BY SURPRISE.

Schwarzenegger:
THESE ARE THE FINAL IMAGES

OF THE GRANITE MOUNTAIN
HOTSHOTS,

TAKEN LESS THAN ONE HOUR
BEFORE THEY PERISHED.

IT WAS THE WORST TRAGEDY
IN THE HISTORY OF THE HOTSHOTS.

A FIRE RACED
ACROSS YARNELL HILL

AND ENGULFED THE TEAM,
KILLING 19 OUT OF 20 MEMBERS.

TONIGHT WE WANT TO PRAY
FOR THOSE FIREFIGHTERS

WHO ARE STILL
ON THE LINES TONIGHT.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]

YEAH!

President Obama:
THE WILDFIRES HAVE BEEN
CONTINUALLY ESCALATING,

AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE
TO ASK OURSELVES

A SET OF BROADER QUESTIONS

ABOUT HOW WE'RE HANDLING
INCREASINGLY

DEADLY
AND DIFFICULT FIREFIGHTS.

Schwarzenegger:
NEWS OF THE TRAGEDY

MADE ITS WAY
TO FIRE CAMPS EVERYWHERE.

FOR THE SNAKE RIVER HOTSHOTS,

A DARK CLOUD WOULD
HANG OVER THE REMAINDER

OF THE 2013 FIRE SEASON.

BUT IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER,

THE FIRE SEASON CONTINUED ON,

UNRELENTING,

WITH MORE FIRES THAN HOTSHOTS
TO FIGHT THEM.

AND FIRES THAT USED
TO BE HARMLESS

ARE NOW LIFE-THREATENING

BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BUILT
TOWNS AND HOMES

DEEPER IN THE WOODS
THAN EVER BEFORE.

Newscaster: 19,000 FIREFIGHTERS
ARE FIGHTING 50 MAJOR FIRES.

Newscaster #2:
WILDFIRES EXPLODING OVERNIGHT
IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS.

CONDITIONS ARE HOT, DRY.

Man: THIS HAS BEEN A DEADLY YEAR
FOR PEOPLE WHO FIGHT WILDFIRES.

Woman: LARGE WILDFIRES
BURNING IN 11 STATES,

INCLUDING SIX MAJOR FIRES
IN MONTANA.

Man #2:
THERE'S FIRES ALL OVER IDAHO.

THERE'S FIRES IN NORTHERN CAL.

THERE'S FIRES IN MONTANA.

IT'S A LOT OF URGENCY.

[ RADIO CHATTER ]

Heading out here today.

Making our first lap
around the fire.

Looks like you caught some...

[ RADIO CHATTER ]

Schwarzenegger:
LET ME ASK YOU GUYS --

HAS YOUR MOTHER NEVER TAUGHT YOU

TO WASH YOUR HANDS
BEFORE YOU HAVE LUNCH?

[ LAUGHTER ]

NO?

Man: SHE TRIED.
IT DIDN'T STICK.

Man #2: THIS JOB RUINS THAT
REAL QUICK.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO YOU -- I MEAN, BODYBUILDER,
HOLLYWOOD ICON,

GOVERNOR -- WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU,
PERSONALLY, GOAL-WISE?

HOTSHOTS
IS ALL THAT'S LEFT.

[ LAUGHTER ]

EXACTLY.

THE MOVIE BUSINESS
IS A FUN BUSINESS TO BE IN.

BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PATIENCE.

LIKE, I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID
"TERMINATOR,"

AND I HAD TO SAY,
"I'LL BE BACK,"

WHICH BECAME A FAMOUS LINE,

BUT WE DID LIKE
20 DIFFERENT TAKES.

[ LAUGHTER ]
20 DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND I WOULD ARGUE
WITH THE DIRECTOR.

I SAID, "NO, I THINK IT'S BETTER
IF WE SAY, 'I WILL BE BACK,'"

AND JIM CAMERON SAYS,

"NO, LET ME DO THE WRITING
AND YOU DO THE ACTING."

[ LAUGHTER ]

I PLAYED A FIREFIGHTER
IN ONE MOVIE.

SO I ALWAYS HAD A GREAT RESPECT
FOR FIREFIGHTERS.

I THINK IF SOMEONE IS WILLING

TO RISK THEIR LIVES
TO SAVE SOMEONE ELSE'S,

THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING
MENTALITY.

YOU KNOW, LIKE, MY FATHER
WAS A POLICE OFFICER,

AND MY MOTHER WAS WORRIED ALWAYS

BECAUSE IT WAS A DANGEROUS JOB.

SO HOW DO YOUR FAMILIES FEEL
ABOUT THAT,

ABOUT WHAT YOU DO?

YOUR WIVES, YOUR MOTHERS,
SIBLINGS?

I THINK MY WIFE'S PRETTY GOOD
WITH IT,

BUT I'M SURE THERE'S TIMES
THAT SHE WORRIES.

I CALL HER AND I LET HER KNOW
WHAT FIRE WE'RE GOING TO.

I TRY AS BEST I CAN,
IF WE'RE GONNA BE SPIKING OUT,

NOT GONNA BE ABLE
TO TALK FOR DAYS,

BUT I'M SURE
SHE WORRIES SOMETIMES.

OH, I BET, YEAH.
WHAT ABOUT YOU?

Man: I THINK MOST OF US
DON'T REALLY VIEW THE JOB

AS VERY DANGEROUS.

I LIKE TO SAY
IT'S HAZARDOUS.

I MEAN, WE WORK
IN AN ENVIRONMENT

WHERE THERE ARE FALLING TREES
AND ROLLING ROCKS,

THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
REALLY THINK OF MYSELF

AS PUTTING MY LIFE
ON THE LINE EVERY DAY.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO FEEL
THE WAY YOU DO,

YOU KNOW, NOT TO GO OUT
EVERY MORNING AND SAY,

"OH, MY GOD, I'LL NEVER SEE
MY FAMILY AGAIN,"

AND ALL THESE THINGS,

BUT I THINK THE FACT IS
THAT IT CAN HAPPEN.

JUST RECENTLY, 19 HOTSHOTS...

PROBABLY FELT THE SAME WAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

Anderson: I NEVER THOUGHT
I'D SEE ANYTHING

WHERE AN ENTIRE HOTSHOT CREW
WOULD GET WIPED OUT.

NEVER THOUGHT IN MY LIFETIME
WE WOULD SEE THAT.

SO IT BRINGS, YOU KNOW,
BRINGS YOU BACK TO,

"THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ME
OR TO MY CREW."

[ HELICOPTER PASSES ]

Schwarzenegger:
FIRES ARE THE MOST WELL-KNOWN
THREAT TO FORESTS.

THEY PUT PEOPLE'S LIVES
AND HOMES AT RISK.

BUT THEN I LEARN
OF AN EVEN GREATER THREAT

TO THE LONG-TERM SURVIVAL
OF TREES --

A THREAT MADE WORSE
BY GLOBAL WARMING

AND A THREAT THAT HAS LONG
OBSESSED DIANA SIX.

Six: WHEN I GO UP
INTO THE HIGH ELEVATIONS

AND I SEE JUST SEAS
OF RED AND GRAY NOW

WHERE THESE AMAZING STANDS
OF THESE TREES USED TO BE,

I DON'T JUST SEE DEAD TREES,
LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE,

WHEN THEY GO UP THERE AND THINK,

"OH, THIS FOREST
WILL JUST GROW BACK.

IT'S NORMAL,"
BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT.

I KNOW BETTER.

THIS IS A COMPLETE
ECOSYSTEM SHIFT,

AND THIS IS PRETTY DEVASTATING.

Schwarzenegger:
AND THE KILLER, IT TURNS OUT,

IS SMALLER THAN A FINGERNAIL.

[ SPEAKING NATIVE LANGUAGE ]

ACTOR HOLLYWOOD HARRISON FORD.

ACTOR HARRISON FORD.

-HARRISON FORD.
-HARRISON FORD.

"YEARS OF LIVING DANGEROUSLY."

Ford:
THE DAY AFTER MY INTERVIEW,

THE FORESTRY MINISTER
IS TELLING THE MEDIA

I DIDN'T SHOW HIM
ENOUGH RESPECT.

MAYBE HE'S RIGHT.

HE'S THREATENING
TO HAVE ME DEPORTED.

IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS.

TODAY I'M SUPPOSED TO MEET
WITH THE PRESIDENT

TO FIND OUT HOW HE FEELS

ABOUT THE DEVASTATION
OF HIS COUNTRY'S FORESTS.

AND WITH ALL THE CONTROVERSY,

THE MEDIA GLARE NOW WAITING
FOR US IS INTENSE.

[ CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING ]

Ford: YOU CREATED A MORATORIUM
ON EXPLOITING NATURAL FOREST.

IS IT BEING RESPECTED?

ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE THINGS
WE'VE SEEN

IS DISREGARD OF THE LAW,
FOR INSTANCE IN TESSO NILO.

ONLY 18%, SIR,
OF THE PARK REMAINS.

YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS.

MR. PRESIDENT,

IN CONVERSATION WITH THE
FORESTRY MINISTER YESTERDAY,

I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE RESPECT
FOR THE LAW

AND WHY IT WAS THAT THERE WAS
SO MUCH ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

ISN'T THERE
AN ENFORCEMENT EFFORT

THAT CAN HELP
AT LEAST SET AN EXAMPLE?

I UNDERSTAND, MR. PRESIDENT.
ALL DUE RESPECT.

I UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU.

[ CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICKING ]

BUT AS I LEAVE,

I WONDER IF THERE'S JUST
TOO MUCH PRESSURE

TO DEVELOP THE FORESTS
FOR ANYTHING TO CHANGE.

HERE'S A GOOD ONE.

YEAH, THIS IS
A REALLY GOOD ONE.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME.

Schwarzenegger: DIANA SIX AND
HER ASSISTANT, RYAN BRACEWELL,

HAVE BEEN HIKING THROUGH
THESE MONTANA FORESTS

FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS,
DOWN THE TRAIL OF A KILLER.

OH, THERE'S ONE.

YOU GOT ONE?
LET ME GET MY FORCEPS.

LOOKS LIKE
MOUNTAIN PINE BEETLE TO ME.

SURE DOES.

LOOK AT THAT.

LOOK AT THAT.
FIRST BEETLE OF THE SEASON.

HA! [ LAUGHS ]

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE
SOMETHING THAT LITTLE

KILLS SO MANY TREES, HUH?

Six: FIRE GETS ALL
THE ATTENTION RIGHT NOW

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
IT'S VERY FLASHY.

IT ALSO THREATENS
PEOPLE'S HOMES.

PEOPLE GET REALLY NERVOUS
ABOUT FIRES.

BEETLES ARE SORT OF LIKE
A SLOWER FIRE.

THERE'S ANOTHER LIVE ONE.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE

45 MILLION ACRES
OF TREES KILLED,

IT'S ABSOLUTELY
ASTONISHING TO ME

THAT IT HASN'T CAPTURED
MORE ATTENTION.

A BEETLE WILL LAND ON A TREE,

AND THEN THEY'LL RELEASE
A CHEMICAL.

AND ANY OTHER MOUNTAIN PINE
BEETLE THAT'S AROUND

WILL BE ATTRACTED IN.

AND SO IF THAT BEETLE
ATTRACTS HUNDREDS,

OR MAYBE EVEN THOUSANDS,
OF BEETLES,

THEY CAN KILL THE TREE.

SO I SEE A BUNCH OF TREES
WITH YELLOW FOLIAGE ON THEM.

THERE'S PROBABLY A BUNCH
OF BEETLES IN THEM.

Schwarzenegger: EVERGREENS
AREN'T SUPPOSED TO CHANGE COLOR.

THESE TREES ARE RED BECAUSE
THEY'RE INFESTED AND DYING.

THE YELLOW TREES HAVE ONLY
JUST BEEN ATTACKED,

BUT THE GRAY ONES
ARE ALREADY DEAD.

Six: I STARTED WORKING ON BARK
BEETLES ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

IN THOSE DAYS, THEY PRETTY MUCH
PLAYED BY THE BOOK.

IF YOU WANTED TO GET
SOME ADULT BEETLES,

YOU WENT OUT TWO WEEKS
IN MID-JULY.

THAT'S WHEN THEY ATTACKED TREES,

AND IF I MISSED THAT WINDOW,
THAT WAS IT FOR A YEAR.

I HAD TO WAIT.

THESE DAYS,
EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED.

Schwarzenegger:
FREEZING WINTER TEMPERATURES

USED TO KILL THE BEETLES,

BUT NOW WITH LONGER SUMMERS,

THEY CAN REPRODUCE TWICE
IN A SINGLE SEASON.

AND THEY'RE INFESTING WHOLE NEW
SECTIONS OF NORTH AMERICA.

Six:
THE BEETLES HAVE MOVED HUNDREDS
OF KILOMETERS FURTHER NORTH,

AND THE ONLY THING THAT WILL
ALLOW THAT, OF COURSE,

IS IT'S NOW WARM ENOUGH FOR THEM
TO MAKE A LIVING THERE,

AND THAT WASN'T THE CASE
IN THE PAST.

Schwarzenegger: THE DESTRUCTION
IS NOTHING SHORT OF STAGGERING.

BARK BEETLES HAVE KILLED
MORE TREES THAN ALL FIRES

COMBINED OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS
IN THE U.S. AND CANADA.

Six: I HAVE TO ADMIT

WHEN I WAS WORKING ON BEETLES
IN THE EARLIER DAYS,

I WASN'T ON BOARD
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE,

BUT AFTER A WHILE,
YOU COULDN'T MISS THE CHANGES.

AND GRADUALLY, YOU KNOW,

I ENDED UP WORKING
ON CLIMATE CHANGE

BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE
ANY OTHER OPTION.

Schwarzenegger: AND THE DEATH
OF ALL THESE TREES

FROM BEETLES AND FIRES IS
SETTING OFF A VICIOUS CYCLE.

ALL THE CARBON RELEASED
BY THE DEAD TREES

WILL SPEED UP THE RATE
OF CLIMATE CHANGE,

WHICH WILL ONLY LEAD
TO HIGHER TEMPERATURES,

MORE BEETLES, AND MORE FIRES.

WILDFIRES IN THE UNITED STATES
BURNED 4 MILLION ACRES IN 2013.

THEY DESTROYED 2,000 STRUCTURES

AND COST NEARLY $1 BILLION WORTH
OF DAMAGE.

THE FOREST SERVICE SPENT
OVER $1 BILLION FIGHTING FIRES.

AND FOR THE 7th TIME
IN THE PAST 12 SEASONS,

THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY,

FORCING THEM TO SIPHON
FROM OTHER PROGRAMS

TO PAY THE BILLS.

JUST ANOTHER YEAR IN THE NEW
NORMAL OF OUR FIRE SEASONS.

Swetnam: HOW MUCH OF OUR FOREST
CAN WE LOSE?

IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO,
WE'VE LOST,

FROM A COMBINATION
OF BARK-BEETLE OUTBREAKS

AND FOREST FIRES,

ABOUT 20% TO 30%
HERE IN THE SOUTHWEST --

ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO.

SO IF THIS CONTINUES FOR
THE NEXT 20, 30, 50 YEARS,

WE PROBABLY COULD LOSE
50% OF OUR FORESTS.

I MEAN, THAT'S PROBABLY
A REALISTIC, YOU KNOW, GUESS

OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED,

AND WHAT KIND OF A LANDSCAPE
WILL IT BE

WHEN WE LOSE THAT MUCH
OF OUR FOREST COVERING?

Schwarzenegger:
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE

HALF OF THE TREES
IN THE AMERICAN WEST

GONE IN THE NEXT FEW DECADES.

AND IT IS SCARIER STILL

TO REALIZE THAT
THE MORE TREES WE LOSE,

THE MORE GLOBAL WARMING
WILL ACCELERATE.

Ford:
I'M BACK IN CALIFORNIA.

I'M ABOUT TO SEE
WHERE PALM OIL ENDS UP

AFTER IT LEAVES INDONESIA.

THIS FACTORY'S RUN
BY A COMPANY CALLED UNILEVER,

WHICH USES MORE PALM OIL

THAN ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER
IN THE WORLD.

SO, GAVIN, I UNDERSTAND
YOU'RE RETIRED NOW,

BUT YOU WERE THE CHIEF
SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER

OF UNILEVER?
THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, HOW MUCH PALM OIL
DOES UNILEVER BUY IN A YEAR?

WE BUY ABOUT
1.5 MILLION TONS,

WHICH REPRESENTS 3%
OF WHAT'S PRODUCED GLOBALLY.

IT'S USED IN BOTH
OUR FOOD PRODUCTS

AND OUR HOME-
AND PERSONAL-CARE PRODUCTS --

THINGS LIKE SHAMPOOS
AND SOAPS

AND BODY LOTIONS
AND THAT KIND OF THING.

Ford: UNILEVER MAKES DOZENS
OF ALL-AMERICAN BRANDS,

FROM DOVE SOAP
TO BEN & JERRY'S ICE CREAM.

FOR YEARS, THE COMPANY WAS ALSO
A MAJOR ACCOMPLICE

TO DEFORESTATION,
BUT THEN IT MADE AN ABOUT-FACE

AND PLEDGED TO STOP
BUYING PALM OIL

FROM COMPANIES THAT ARE ACTIVELY
DESTROYING FORESTS.

WHEN DID THAT POLICY BECOME
A REAL ACTIVE INGREDIENT

IN YOUR CORPORATE PLAN?

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT

THAT THE ATTACK THAT GREENPEACE
MADE ON US IN 2008

CATALYZED ACTION
INSIDE THE COMPANY.

I SAW THESE PEOPLE
CLIMBING THE BUILDING,

AND I HADN'T A CLUE
WHAT IT WAS.

[ IMITATING MONKEYS CHATTERING ]

BY ACCIDENT, I HAPPENED TO BE
THE MOST SENIOR PERSON

IN THE BUILDING THAT DAY,

AND SO I HAD TO GO DOWN

AND TALK TO THE GREENPEACE GUYS
DOWN THERE.

IT WAS QUITE
A LIFE-CHANGING MOMENT.

WE CHANGED
VERY FUNDAMENTALLY.

JUST A MONTH LATER,

THE C.E.O. AT THE TIME

MADE THIS
PUBLIC COMMITMENT

ABOUT SOURCING ALL OF THE
PALM OIL SUSTAINABLY BY 2015.

BUT HOW CAN UNILEVER KNOW
THAT ALL ITS PALM OIL IS OKAY?

WHEN I WAS IN TESSO NILO
NATIONAL PARK,

I LEARNED THAT SOME OF
THE BIGGEST SUPPLIERS,

INCLUDING A GIANT COMPANY
CALLED WILMAR,

WERE BUYING AND SELLING
FROM ILLEGAL PLANTATIONS.

WE'VE BEEN TO INDONESIA,
AND WE'VE BEEN TO TESSO NILO.

RIGHT NOW IT'S BEING
REDEVELOPED --

ILLEGALLY, I MUST ADD --
AS PALM-OIL PLANTATIONS.

THE NEAREST MILL TO TESSO NILO
IS A WILMAR MILL.

UNILEVER BUYS PALM OIL
FROM WILMAR.

THAT IS TRUE.

AND WILMAR HAS REFUSED

TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR POLICING ITS SUPPLY CHAIN.

AND YET UNILEVER CONTINUES
TO BUY FROM WILMAR.

SO, IN THE PALM-OIL INDUSTRY,
IT'S DIFFICULT TO AVOID WILMAR.

THEY ARE VAST.
THEY ARE HUGE.

BUT I THINK YOU'LL FIND
THAT WILMAR

IS A BUSINESS
IN TRANSITION.

IT HAS A HUGE DISTANCE
TO TRAVEL,

BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT IT REACHES ITS DESTINATION

BECAUSE WITHOUT WILMAR,

WE WON'T SOLVE
THE DEFORESTATION ISSUE.

HOW COULD WE KNOW
THAT YOU'RE SINCERE

IN YOUR EFFORTS

AND THAT IT'S NOT JUST SOME
PUBLIC-RELATIONS CAMPAIGN

OF UNILEVER TO LOOK GOOD
TO ITS CONSUMERS?

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER
TO THAT QUESTION.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW
BECAUSE THIS IS TRICKY.

WE CAN'T PROVIDE REASSURANCE
ON ALL OF THESE THINGS.

THIS IS VERY MUCH NOT JUST
ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL COMPANY

CALLED UNILEVER
OR ANOTHER COMPANY.

THIS IS ABOUT TRYING TO
TRANSFORM THE WHOLE MARKET.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT WE DO THAT

'CAUSE IF THESE FORESTS GO,

THEN IT'S A SAD LOOKOUT
FOR ALL HUMANITY.

THE LOOKOUT JUST GOT
A BIT BRIGHTER.

AFTER THIS CONVERSATION,

WILMAR ANNOUNCED IT WOULD NOT
BUY PALM OIL

FROM RECENTLY DEFORESTED LAND.

SO FAR, THESE ARE JUST WORDS,

BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE GOOD WORDS.

THE FORESTRY MINISTER
ALSO MADE GOOD ON HIS PLEDGE

TO PROTECT HALF
OF THAT PEAT FOREST.

YOU ARE WILLING
TO SIGN THE PAPER.

YEAH. 50%.

AND RECENTLY,

THE DIRECTOR OF TESSO NILO
NATIONAL PARK WAS FIRED.

SOME OF THE ILLEGAL PLANTATIONS
WERE RAIDED BY POLICE,

AND THREE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT
TO LEAVE THE PARK.

IT'S NOT NEARLY ENOUGH,

BUT IT'S PROOF
THAT THINGS CAN CHANGE.

Man: EXTINCTION IS HAPPENING,
AND WE ARE WATCHING.

Ford: PEOPLE NEED TO SEE
WHAT'S GONE WRONG,

AND THEY HAVE TO BE EXPOSED
TO THE MECHANISMS

THAT CAN HELP MAKE IT RIGHT.

YOU'VE GOT TO BRING
THE PEOPLE'S HEARTS AND MINDS

AN UNDERSTANDING OF
WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE

AND THE RATE OF CHANGE --

OR IT'S ALL GONNA BE GONE
AND WE'LL HAVE NO PLACE TO LIVE.

OUR KIDS WILL HAVE
NO PLACE TO LIVE.

[ BABY ELEPHANT TRUMPETS ]