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- In 1975, Clearwater, Florida
was chosen to be

the international headquarters
of Scientology.

The plan was to turn Clearwater

into the first Scientology city.

- Slowly, it's coming out,
this town is being taken over.

They have chosen us to be
their spiritual headquarters

and they are going to buy up
our town.

- And anybody who spoke out
against that

was going to be neutralized.

- And these orders,
very clearly,

stated, "Find out who your
enemies are. Destroy 'em."

The orders, in effect,
were occupation orders.

- What's really interesting is
that it is the only city

that actually had hearings.

- The city of Clearwater
was fighting back.

- We can't deal with
this mafia-like organization

in our small town.

- It was a continuing
fraudulent enterprise.

It still is to this day,
as far as I'm concerned.

- You had people willing
to stand up and fight

and they were fighting.

- The city then tried to enact
an ordinance

designed to get Scientology
out of Clearwater.

- Unfortunately,
Clearwater lost.

- We would start hearing about
additional properties

that they were buying,

and they stated cherry-picking
the areas

so they could control,
you know, the... the entire area.

- Today, Scientology has
almost achieved its objective

of complete subjugation
of downtown Clearwater

of taking over vast tracts
of the city

and turning it into the first
Scientology city on Earth.

- I am the writer of
the textbooks of Scientology.

The aim and goal is to put man
in a mental condition,

uh, where he, him,
can solve his own problems.

- Without any
Scientology organization,

things are not gonna change
on this planet.

- After years of slowly
questioning Scientology...

- Leah Remini
and her very public break

with Scientology...

- Scientology, what they do.
Trying to destroy people,

trying to destroy their
families when they leave,

they create a lot of people

who are willing
to fight against them.

- Scientology takes
tax-free dollars,

and ruins people's lives.

- This is not the life
that I want to live.

I wanted to end my life.

- Some people, it takes a year.

Some people, it takes ten years

of just peeling that onion
of how you were manipulated

and made to think.

- This season,
we really needed to focus on

the reason why Scientology
is able

to do the things that they do

is because they have
tax-exempt status.

- The people who have
bravely come on

and told their stories

have not told
those stories in vain.

They are having an impact.

- We're presenting
our case to the world,

to the FBI, to the IRS.

- The most important thing
that has to be done

is the persistent telling
of the truth,

and that's what you're doing.

- You have to continue to fight.

You have to continue
to fight for what's right.

- You've heard the history

of how Scientology
got to Clearwater

but what's really interesting
is that it is the only city

that actually had hearings

to deal with the problem
of Scientology.

Then the city, unfortunately,
overreached

and lost...

To Scientology.

And that was kind of the end
of this battle.

That all changed in 1995

with the death
of Lisa McPherson.

We've always wanted to tell
this story, Mark,

'cause I was just
so always touched by what

you and Bob Minton had started

with the death
of Lisa McPherson, and...

you know that I've been
hounding you for years.

Like, how do we tell her story?

I'm so emotional today.

- Yeah.

- Sorry.

I was crying on the way here.

- I know.
- Yeah, it's...

Yeah, yeah, you've shed
a couple of tears too.

- Yeah.

But I'm glad that
we're finally telling it.

You know, originally we...

You know,
we got so many messages

on social media about
covering Clearwater

as a, uh, you know, "Hey
they're taking over our town,"

and there's long history, but
it's turned into something else

which I'm very thankful for
that we are able to kind of

stop and tell Lisa's story.

- Lisa McPherson was
a devout Scientologist

for 15 years.

She had been recently
reconnecting with old friends

and saying that she had doubts

and she was thinking
about coming back home,

and shortly after that, she
got into a minor fender bender

in downtown Clearwater.

And by the time the police came
and the ambulance,

she had stripped off
of all of her clothes

and was walking down
the street naked,

and a paramedic
came up to her and said,

"Why are you doing this?"

And she said,
"Because I need somebody

"to pay attention to me.

I need help."

So they took her over to the
nearby Morton Plant Hospital

and they checked her in there.

Within an hour,

ten Scientologists came
to the hospital

and talked her into leaving
and going back with them,

against the doctor's wishes.

They had to release her

and then Scientology took her
back to the Fort Harrison Hotel

in locked her in a room
for 17 days.

On Scientology's introspection
rundown,

where if somebody's having
a psychotic break,

you don't talk to them,

you don't respond
if they're talking to you,

there's all these rules.

- Unfortunately, Scientology's
rules also don't include

having anybody trained to deal
with someone in Lisa's state.

They literally grabbed anybody
that could be spared.

They had no training;

they had no idea whatsoever
what they were doing

and had no ability
to effectively

deal with someone in her state.

- Every day, the caretakers
would take logs

and you can see in the logs

that her condition
is getting worse and worse

and worse every day.

The last three days of her life,

those records were destroyed
by Scientology.

Marty Rathbun confessed to that.

He ordered them destroyed.

- Well, hang on.

David Miscavige ordered those
documents to be destroyed

through Marty Rathbun
who, in fact,

admitted to destroying them.

- Yes.

- You ordered those days
of logs to be destroyed.

- Right.
- All right,

could you explain, you know,
why you did that?

- To protect the organization.

One of them was talking about
the witness in the case

pleading with the doctor,
who was on staff,

to get Lisa to a doctor.

That was like a smoking gun
incriminating

in terms of people knowing

that she was in a deteriorated
physical condition.

- As a Scientologist
at the time,

I never even heard
of Lisa McPherson

or her death.

Scientology is so genius at
having parishioners

not look at the news,
not read newspapers.

- This was a huge story.

- And then, uh, when they came
down with the actual charges,

when our medical examiner,
uh, Joan Wood,

uh, came up and... and found out
that the cause of death

was... was, uh, not natural,
it was not an accident,

um, but it was criminal
in nature,

then Scientology once again
showed its power,

showed its, uh,
capabilities so to speak,

and they went after Joan Wood.

- The fact that Scientology
was charged with

criminal neglect in the death
of Lisa McPherson

was of enormous concern
to David Miscavige

because it was
the biggest threat

to the tax-exempt status
of Scientology.

You cannot be engaged
in illegal activities.

Miscavige spared no expense

to challenge the findings
of Joan Wood.

We, Scientology...

- Mm-hmm.

- Hired the foremost criminal
pathologist in the world,

three of them who came
and lived in Clearwater...

I mean, these were the guys
that had just finished

the O.J. Simpson trial...
To find credible explanations

that would place the findings
of Joan Wood in doubt.

- And they went after Joan Wood
and... with a vengeance...

And... and took her down,
and ultimately she changed

the autopsy to cause of death
as being an accident

and that gutted
the state attorneys'...

- The prosecution?
- Yeah, the prosecution,

state attorneys', uh, case

and they had to drop
the charges.

- It was money to hire people
who have great influence.

It was David Miscavige

personally contacting
Joan Wood's lawyer

to persuade Joan Wood
that she had no choice

but to change her testimony

based on the information
that was coming forward

from these medical examiners.

This was a major catastrophe
in the Scientology world.

It threatened to expose
Miscavige's involvement

in Lisa McPherson's life.

Scientology literally spent
millions and millions.

No expense was to be spared
because David Miscavige's ass

was on the line.

- There was also a civil case
that was funded by

soon-to-become my boss,
Bob Minton,

who was a retired

international investment banker,

and he started look back into
this in 1995,

and the more Bob started
looking into it,

meeting former members,
he decided he wanted to help.

And one of the things
he did was,

in 2000, he opened up an office
right next to Scientology's

Office of Special Affairs
in the bank building,

and he gathered a few of us
to stand up to Scientology

because the city wasn't.

They had made peace with them.

- The Lisa McPherson Trust
was both, uh, an insult

and a threat in the mind
of David Miscavige

and in my mind
and everybody else

who was in
the Office of Special Affairs.

That this avowed financier
of anti-Scientology activities

had moved into town

and set up an office
right next door to Scientology?

This was, uh, seen as a...
A massive failure

that he had been able
to do that.

- This space now belongs to
the Lisa McPherson Trust

and we are going to change
the face of Scientology

and Clearwater forever.

- Scientology doesn't respond
to slaps in the face

by turning the other cheek.

The full force of
L. Ron Hubbard's philosophy

of attack the attacker
and destroy your enemies

was brought to bear
on Bob Minton

and the Lisa McPherson Trust,

and I know because I did it.

- So Scientology has been,
um, harassing and, uh... uh,

attempting to silence people
for decades

and now the Lisa McPherson
Trust comes into town.

People were saying,
"An injustice is happening.

We're gonna stand up
for Lisa McPherson."

And, of course,
Scientology says,

"That's not okay.

Attack."

And that's exactly
what they did.

Here's this wonderful man,
Bob Minton,

creates a trust,

gets good people like you,

and you guys are just doing this

'cause it's
the right thing to do.

- Right.
- And you set up shop

in Scientology territory,
which also takes some balls,

and they are sending
Scientologists there

to harass you guys.

That footage is so creepy,
Mark, that I saw.

- We quickly recognized
what a problem

the Lisa McPherson Trust was.

Miscavige believed
that the Lisa McPherson Trust

were there to be in his face,

so he wanted Scientologists

to be back in their face

and make their life
uncomfortable.

- It got... kind of got ratcheted
up when Bob Minton came and...

And then decided to have
an organized protest.

Go in front
of the Fort Harrison,

on the sidewalk,
hold the signs like you see,

and what happened next was,
uh, chaos in a way.

Somebody came up to him
and stuck their camera

right in his face,
and Bob pushed it away.

It had hit the guy in the head
and, of course,

with great dramatic flair,
he went to the ground

and, uh, Scientologists all
went around him

and stood there in silence

and the police were called
and, uh, Bob was arrested.

- For assault?
- He was arrested for battery

on this... on this...
On this fella.

We went to court over it
and explained why he was set up

and to do that, we had
to explain Scientology,

fair game, and what it was,

and that became discussed
in the trial.

When the case was over,
he was acquitted.

- It's just remarkable
the lengths that Scientology

will go to.

You talk about the chaos.

There was one night
that was really bad,

which we called The Mad Picket.

If you look at the full video,

which I've put out raw
and unedited on YouTube,

you can see it starts off
quietly

outside the, uh,
Fort Harrison Hotel

and after about five minutes
of that,

down the street comes
the O.T. committee.

- Loser! McDonald's workers!

You guys are losers!

That was sad and pathetic.

- You should go back
to your Nazi friends.

- Move along, move along,
move along.

Cult member.

- Chop chop! Chop chop!
- Move.

- Come on, Mark!

- So, we're there
quietly protesting

and then Scientology comes
to get in our face, literally,

trying to provoke us

uh, and they had orders
to do this.

I caught them on tape.

Like, one guy shoved
Bob Minton, I believe it was.

- Watch out!
Hey, hey. hey!

- Hold-hold-hold-hold-hold...
- Who's that?

- And another Scientologist
came up to him and said,

"Let them come to you."

So they wanted to provoke us

so that so that we would
do something against them

and have us arrested.

- Sure, sure.
- That's their whole goal.

- The problems that we're
having with the pro... protesting

got so out of hand, uh, that
the... the police

and the politicians
and all that said,

"This has got to stop."

And so there was
an injunction filed

by the church against the
people that were protesting

and we had long hearings
in... in front of a... a...

A circuit court judge
in Clearwater

where he took testimony about
what they were doing,

whether they were violent,
and so on and so forth.

And, uh, the judge ultimately
issued the injunction.

- And unfortunately,
my... my comrade here is named

in one of the injunctions

to stay away from,
uh, anybody that's...

I think it says that's
a Scientologist.

- Yeah.
- And you live in Clearwater!

- Well, wait a minute,
how do you know you're a...

They don't go around with
a T-shirt...

- Right, right.
- Saying "I'm a Scientologist."

But he supposedly
has to be clairvoyant

and find out that he has
to stay a certain number

of feet not only away
from Scientologists,

but anyway from any buildings

that were named
in the injunction.

It was a one-sided debacle
that was, uh,

really a sad... a sad time
for Clearwater.

- We hit upon the idea
of hiring off-duty

Clearwater police department
officers

to guard the building

to protect against
the Lisa McPherson Trust.

This had the effect

of turning many
Clearwater police officers

into de facto employees
of Scientology.

They were schmoozed
in order to make them

more favorable toward us

and less favorable towards
the Lisa McPherson Trust,

who were positioned always
as troublemakers

who had been imported from
out of town

to come and cause trouble in
beautiful downtown Clearwater.

- Today, many in the
Clearwater Police Department

work for Scientology
on their days off,

and they're supposed
to report of Mike Rinder,

the head of the Office
of Special Affairs.

The Clearwater Police watch
as the O.S.A. agents

videotape our every move.

Scientology Pis follow us
everywhere.

- The police had just stood by
while these protestors

have been assaulted by
Scientologists.

The police had been absolutely
unwilling to do anything

to protect the protestors.

- The day that injunction

was put into effect
by the judge,

he was out on the street using
it trying to get us arrested.

I've got tape
of the police officer...

You saying to the officer,
"Look, they're named here!

They're named!"

- That was another life.
Leave him alone.

- Well, Mike...
Mike is fully aware

that we're going
to find that stuff

and we're going to air it.
Sorry, Mike.

- Oh, Mike!
- We're gonna find that stuff.

- So it appears as if they've
called the Clearwater police

to complain of the, uh, prior
peaceful picketing activity.

I'm concerned that Mike Rinder

wants to stop peaceful picketing

under the guise
of legal process.

- Mike Rinder is the chief

of their dirty tricks department

and there is nothing
he wouldn't do or say

to try to keep this,
uh, criminal

at the helm of Scientology,
David Miscavige, in power

because Mike Rinder's power
comes from David Miscavige.

- Have you been served
with one of these injunctions

as an agent of his?
- No.

You were in court, Stacy,
when that was issued.

You were test...
You were sitting right there.

Because you're saying that
you're... you're not on notice.

Or you're trying to say
you're not on notice.

- This was just a tactic
to try to stop protests.

- You're not allowed to protest?

- Well,
that's the entire injunction.

- That injunction,
issued in 1999,

even though
the Lisa McPherson Trust

ceased to exist in 2001,

Scientology still drags
this thing out

at every opportunity.

They put a red cover on it,

they make it look all official,

they hand it to the cops
and they say,

"Here, we got an injunction
against this guy.

He's just a troublemaker!"

In 1999, like 20 years ago?

It's absurd,
but the theater of the absurd

is the theater of Scientology.

- Scientology realized, like,

"Oh, Mark can't be within
ten feet of us."

So then they started staging
Scientologists every ten feet

so that you couldn't even
walk down the street.

- Yeah, I... I went to one event

across from
the Ford Harrison Hotel.

- Yeah.
- And there's a woman

talking with a police officer
and they were talking toward me

and she, uh, saw me coming
and she shouted,

"Ten feet!"

And I had to stop...

and the police told me that I
could not walk down the street

as long as she was there.

I said, "Well, can I walk out
around the cars in the street?"

"No, that'd be breaking
the law."

- Wow!
- That's crazy, that's insane.

- The next event where
David Miscavige was speaking

downtown at a, uh,
opening ceremony

for one of their new buildings,

I arrived and they stationed
Scientologists every ten feet

around two blocks
around the event.

Precisely ten feet,

and she was waiting
as I approached

with two police officers.

- They tried to get Mark
kicked out of his condo

because his next door neighbor
was a Scientologist.

- I got a knock on the door
from my neighbor.

Very excited to meet me

and very chipper and happy
and "Hi, come on in..."

"come on over to my place!

"You need some furniture?
You want a chair?

"How 'bout a table," you know?

And we sat and talked
for about 15, 20 minutes

and she was very up
and very positive

and then, uh, I noticed she had
a big bookcase

full of L. Ron Hubbard
Scientology stuff.

She would, again, was trying
to force furniture on me

and I said, "Well, that's...
That's very kind of you"

"but I think you should know
that I am an SP

"and I've been making
a documentary

"about the Church
of Scientology and

"I just wanted to be upfront
about that

and I hope we can still
be friends."

Uh, how'd that go?

- Her face just went
to a glower.

"In that case, I'm going
to have to ask you to leave."

I said, "Well, I... I... I think
still think we can talk..."

"Leave now."

And then the next day,
the condo association

were getting threatening letters

from Scientology attorneys

saying I had to be evicted

because I was ten feet away
from this Scientologist

and breaking the injunction.

And the condo association
thankfully said,

"No, we ran a check
on this guy. He's fine."

- Wow.
- And they didn't like

Scientology trying
to pressure them,

so they... they...
- They stood up for you.

- You know, they stood with me.

So it... it's... it's just nuts.

- Nuts.

- Talking about the...
The injunctions

and all of the hoo-ha around
the Lisa McPherson Trust,

the real issue is
what got done, ultimately,

to destroy it.

Which was not the injunctions

and not the people
in their faces

and that sort of stuff,

but the investigation
and the harassment

that was conducted against
Bob Minton.

And I am extremely familiar
with this because I ran it.

- If ever there was
a critic of Scientology,

it was Bob Minton

and, I promise you,
no expense was spared

when it came to hiring
private investigators,

hiring people around the world

to investigate Bob and
his finances in particular.

It was his money
that we were interested in.

We knew that Minton had made
a considerable amount of money

selling Nigerian bonds.

So Dave Lubow went to London
and managed to persuade

the Nigerian government

that Bob Minton and the people
he had worked with

had scammed them out of tens
of millions of dollars.

And the Nigerian government

officially requested
a prosecutor

in Switzerland to open
an investigation

and to freeze Bob Minton's funds

in his Swiss bank accounts.

And he had no money.

He didn't have any money
to pay his bills,

and that was the real pressure
that was put on him.

- Now why are
you getting emotional?

'Cause you're making me
emotional.

Bob was my hero.

Uh, he was a flawed man
but he was a good man.

- Yeah.
- And he really cared

and was really trying
to make a difference.

- Yeah.

- And he helped a lot of people.

It was not a... a pretty ending.

Um, I saw the pressure on him.

Every day I would...

I would walk into his house
and wonder, is this the day

that Bob's gonna shoot himself?

And it was horrific,

and Stacy went through that too.

They were trying to get Bob
out of this

and one of the things they did,

uh, was try and sit down
with Scientology

and work out
some sort of ceasefire.

I believe they, uh... uh,
were you at those meetings?

- Absolutely.
- Yeah.

And... and from my understanding...

Thank you.

From my understanding,
Bob and Stacy

wanted to go in there
and just say,

"Okay, we'll... we'll stop all
the lawsuits.

We just wanna get out of this
because it's too hard."

And at the first meeting,
my understanding is

you said, "Not only are... are
you not getting out of this"

but here's
a $10 million lawsuit."

And, I was told, a detailed
$30 million RICO case

that you were preparing
against Bob

and they came home from that
just shell-shocked.

- Bob called me and asked me
if I would be willing

to meet with he and Stacy alone.

I said yes.

Miscavige insisted
that Monique Yingling

go with me and we met at
the Johnson Pope law offices.

He eventually just went,
"I want out.

If you can get my money
freed up, I'm out of here."

And that was sort
of the sad end of Bob

as a crusader
against Scientology.

He was effectively terminator
as an attacker,

which is the objective of the
Office of Special Affairs.

- He was neutralized.
- Neutralized.

It is something that haunted me

for a long, long time.

- Stacy and Bob called me
when he was in Zurich

going to get his money

and he was suicidal

and he was threatening
to jump out the window

of his hotel room

and Stacy called me to help,

to get me to talk to Bob
and I ended up talking to him

for, like, two hours
on the phone

and... and talking him out
of committing suicide.

And I was still in
the Office of Special Affairs

at that time.
- Right.

- And I ultimately had a lot
of conversations with him

and Stacy and I was going
to go visit them in Ireland

when he moved to Ireland,

but he was still so scared,
he said, "Please don't come."

"I'm afraid that if you come,

the Pis are all
gonna come again,"

and he couldn't take it.

And then he died.

- And I never got to see him,

to have the... the real personal
one-on-one conversation.

What I directed to be done
against Bob Minton

and what I did to Bob Minton
has haunted me for a long time,

and I am sorry for what
I did to destroy him

or to seek to destroy him.

This story of Lisa McPherson
really touched him

and it's what motivated him.

He was not motivated by money.

He wasn't even motivated by
a hatred of Scientology,

and you know the way
that I know that?

He was willing to have me
as a friend

even when I was still
in Scientology.

- But you got to finally say
you were sorry to him?

- Oh, absolutely, and to Stacy.

I mean, to this day, Stacy is...
I consider a good friend.

- Yeah.
- And the only reason

that she is not on this show...
- Yeah.

- Because she desperately
wants to be...

Is because of the settlement
agreement that I did with her

that prevents her from talking.

- Non-disclosure.

One thing I didn't realize
was that he had no connection

at all to Scientology

or Clearwater or no relatives.

He just came down to make
our city better.

- That's what's so insane,
is that they talk about

freedom of speech
and freedom of religion,

but they attack and destroy
those who are...

- Exercising?
- Speaking.

- Yeah, exercising
freedom of speech.

- Exercising that right.

- Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

- I hope that the...

the memory of Bob is
as it should be.

That people understand
that he was doing something

that was selfless

and I, you know, I genuinely
have great, great sorrow

about what happened.

The only... the only mitigating
factor is the fact

that I was able to... to speak
with him and Stacy

afterwards and kind of
make peace with them,

but that's not made peace
with the world,

so I hope that to some extent
this will accomplish that.

- Yeah.

- Sorry.
- It's okay.

- This is going to mean
the world to her.

Thank you.

- Mark Bunker,
when he walks down the street,

suddenly, the Clearwater Police
Department appear in force

because Scientology
calls them and says,

"We have an injunction!
We've got a trespasser,"

and they are there in a flash

even though that injunction
is 20 years old.

- So tell me
the history of this park.

It was built
for the purpose of what?

- This used to be...
- I mean, it's lovely.

- I'm not... I'm not...
I'm not begrudging them.

- This for the longest time was
a drive-through Checkers...

- Mm-hmm.
- Drive-through.

- Oh, that's right.

And Miscavige...
His office used to be

up in that corner.
- Mm-hmm.

- And he hated this being here.

It attracted people to...
- His area.

- His environment.
- I...

- And this was his little zone
over here.

So... like they bought this park.
They bought that one.

That parking lot,
this parking lot.

Then when this became available,

they bought this

and they didn't have anything
to do here with it,

so they just made it a park.

- Mm-hmm.

- It gets used
one time a year now

for Winter Wonderland.

There's nowhere that you can go

to even take a photo of someone.

- Mm-hmm.
- Right.

- These cops don't know
what to do.

They brought them
the injunction.

- Of course.

- And does the injunction say
that he can't be at a park?

- Nope, nope.

- Here's another one.

Here you go, Scientology
using the resources...

- They've called
the Sergeant in.

- Uh-huh.

- Somebody in the car.
- Yeah.

That's probably
the O.S.A. people.

- Sorry, they just took
pictures of us.

- Oh, here's another one.
Now there's four now.

- Yup, there you go.

This is a big crime.

- I don't really get this
shit, Mike.

Am I overreacting to this?

- Not at all.

This is why we're doing
a show about Clearwater.

When it comes to Scientology,
this is insanity HQ.

- Well, I'm sitting my ass here
until these cops leave.

So it's gonna be a long night.

- Thank you!

Thank you!

- What are you... what...
What's up?

- We're sitting here.

- We're sitting here at a park.

- Okay.

- We're sitting here talking

and Scientology, of course,

doesn't want us sitting here
talking.

So.

What are... what shall
you report back?

Hi, O.S.A.!

- You... you know that injunction
isn't applicable to him here.

- I'll... I'll explain it to you.

- They're the complainant,
you guys are the subjects,

we're just here to get this
whole thing sorted out.

- That injunction was
gotten actually by me

when I was in the Church
against him and 13 other people

that used to work for
the Lisa McPherson Trust,

and it requires that
he and those other people

not protest in front
of the Fort Harrison

or the flag building
and a few other places.

That's what
that injunction says.

This isn't any of those
locations

and he's not,
as far as we know...

- Hi!
- Hi.

- Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
- We appreciate it.

- Thank you.
- Hold on. Juno, come on!

- As we're standing there

with the Clearwater
Police Department,

we have people who are
filming us from Scientology,

but also we have people who are
screaming,

"We love you, Leah and Mike!

"Keep going!" You know,

"Can we take pictures
with you?"

Like... and it's just a... such
a weird dicho...

It's just so weird.

It's like, what world
are we living in?

- So this is
my normal life here.

- Mark, you poor baby.

- I didn't do anything.

- Okay, here comes the boss.

- Hi folks,
I'm Corporal Wassmer.

How are you?
- Good, how are you?

- Hey, man.

- No one has.

- This is their
private property right here?

- Yeah, the park and...
- So we can use the benches?

- We're gonna stand there.
Is that okay?

- Let's see if they... if they
have a problem with us

standing here.

- I am.

- Uh-huh?

- I don't think this is part
of the injunction though.

- They didn't even own
this building

when this injunction was done.

- That why we all just...

There's nothing wrong
with us being here.

- Well, and that's why
we wanted to document it too.

- Okay.

- Bring 'em on, bring 'em on.
- Please do.

We will stand
on this public street.

- We will wait here for...

For her happily.
- We would really love it.

- It's ostensibly a public park,

and they even have a big sign
which lays out

that everybody is welcome
to come in here.

It has a little line
at the end that says

and we reserve the right
to remove anybody

should they be harassing people

or something like that.

The truth of the matter is that
this is Scientology property

and if they don't like you,

they will call the police
to get you thrown out.

- This injunction
is almost 20 years old.

They will never give up.

A whole ruckus is being caused

because Mark Bunker is sitting
in an empty park.

Still going on today...

Using the
Clearwater Police Department

for these criminals
sitting in a park.

This is what the IRS
should be looking at.

These fake buildings
that have nobody in them.

- Right.
- What is this?

- This was the L.M.T.
- This is it.

- Oh, this was it!
- This is where the L.M.T. was.

- My office was in the back
half of that space there.

- It's been heartbreaking

to walk through
this adorable community

and see nothing but empty
Scientology buildings.

What a waste of a cute town.

- If you look at the big view
of Clearwater,

it is the perfect microcosm
of whether Scientology,

in fact, provides
a public benefit or not.