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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:45,589 --> 00:00:48,591 (Audience applauds) 2 00:00:57,810 --> 00:00:59,139 Good evening. 3 00:00:59,979 --> 00:01:05,566 For those of us here tonight that are 70 years old or younger, 4 00:01:07,111 --> 00:01:11,691 Jack Cardiff was shooting film before we were born. 5 00:01:44,235 --> 00:01:47,236 (Kirk Douglas) I don't do many interviews. 6 00:01:47,446 --> 00:01:55,027 But when I was invited to speak about Jack Cardiff, my friend, 7 00:01:55,162 --> 00:01:56,573 I couldn't resist, 8 00:01:56,789 --> 00:02:02,413 because Jack Cardiff is a...an amazing guy. 9 00:02:04,507 --> 00:02:06,380 (Scorsese) Every time I saw certain names, 10 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:09,467 and one of the names that kept cropping up was Cardiff. 11 00:02:09,636 --> 00:02:13,386 Every time I saw these names, I knew I was in for something very special. 12 00:02:13,766 --> 00:02:19,306 And I began to have a very strong affinity towards British cinema, 13 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:23,139 because of my recognition of Cardiff's name, actually. 14 00:02:23,276 --> 00:02:27,275 The way a movie is photographed creates a mood, 15 00:02:27,406 --> 00:02:29,066 and creates the mood of the movie, 16 00:02:29,366 --> 00:02:33,993 so that the audience is prepared for the kind of movie it's going to be. 17 00:02:34,121 --> 00:02:36,078 (lnaudible) 18 00:02:37,625 --> 00:02:39,749 Cinematography is central to film. 19 00:02:39,878 --> 00:02:44,705 Motion pictures is... is the art form of the 20th century, 20 00:02:45,049 --> 00:02:48,086 and you can't do them without the camera. 21 00:03:09,367 --> 00:03:12,202 Going over to Bogie, he's dead. 22 00:03:12,328 --> 00:03:16,374 She's dead, she's dead, she's dead. She's alive. 23 00:03:16,542 --> 00:03:19,412 I'm just alive. 24 00:03:19,545 --> 00:03:21,418 It's fantastic, isn't it? 25 00:03:21,588 --> 00:03:24,625 - (lnterviewer) You've outlivedthem all. - Yeah. 26 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,876 Incredible. 27 00:03:28,263 --> 00:03:32,425 I don't know. Do you think it's a tragic industry to be in sometimes? 28 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:38,853 No, I don't think so, I think it's a nonsensical thing...job to be in, 29 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:41,728 because it's full of, um... 30 00:03:41,860 --> 00:03:45,644 full of hypocrisy, hyperbole. 31 00:03:47,073 --> 00:03:49,909 Just about everything you can think of. 32 00:04:02,882 --> 00:04:05,552 At this moment your room is still not ready. 33 00:04:11,516 --> 00:04:14,636 - Thank you. - Your name? 34 00:04:15,687 --> 00:04:17,847 If anybody said, "Who is that guy? " 35 00:04:18,024 --> 00:04:20,480 because I don't think anybody really knows who I am, 36 00:04:20,610 --> 00:04:25,023 I'd say, "Well, I used to be a stand-in for Frank Sinatra." 37 00:04:27,784 --> 00:04:29,990 (Man speaking French) 38 00:04:45,220 --> 00:04:48,255 (Speaks French) 39 00:05:24,552 --> 00:05:27,090 (Sister Ruth laughs) 40 00:05:38,609 --> 00:05:40,601 (Audience applauds) 41 00:05:44,783 --> 00:05:47,618 - That was made 50 years ago. - Cinquante ans. 42 00:05:47,827 --> 00:05:49,238 How are you? 43 00:05:49,454 --> 00:05:51,328 Pleased to meet you. 44 00:05:51,664 --> 00:05:53,408 - Nice to see you. - Hello. 45 00:05:55,461 --> 00:05:57,252 Come up a bit on this one, 46 00:05:57,421 --> 00:06:00,338 and they're putting on a narrow one on the number four. 47 00:06:00,507 --> 00:06:02,547 (lnterviewer) How oldare you now? 48 00:06:02,677 --> 00:06:05,677 A couple of weeks ago, I was 91. 49 00:06:05,888 --> 00:06:08,593 - Andyou're still working? - Yes, well, not for long. 50 00:06:08,766 --> 00:06:13,843 Another ten years, and I'll have to take it easy, I think. 51 00:06:14,063 --> 00:06:15,890 - Can you put it on now? - Yes, sir. 52 00:06:16,065 --> 00:06:18,818 Where you are now with the smoke. That's it. 53 00:06:19,027 --> 00:06:23,607 - When didyou begin, Jack? - In this business? 54 00:06:23,741 --> 00:06:28,533 Er...well, I started in 1 9... 55 00:06:30,415 --> 00:06:33,451 1 91 8. 56 00:06:33,626 --> 00:06:36,461 As a kid actor. That's a long way back, isn't it? 57 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:03,150 And that's myself when I was about five years of age. 58 00:07:03,282 --> 00:07:06,367 - You'dalready been in a movie. - Yes, I had. 59 00:07:06,453 --> 00:07:10,866 Do you remember, as a child, the fiirst fiilm you acted in? 60 00:07:11,041 --> 00:07:14,706 Very, very fuzzily. I know that it was called "My Son, My Son". 61 00:07:15,086 --> 00:07:20,462 I was four years of age, and it was a silent picture, of course. 62 00:07:20,593 --> 00:07:24,092 The director used to shout the instructions through the megaphone. 63 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:27,680 "Now smile a bit, look over to her. You love her. Come on, you do this." 64 00:07:27,850 --> 00:07:30,685 That was...that was easy, you know. 65 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,191 In between stage shows, 66 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,571 my mother and father would work as extras sometimes. 67 00:07:41,657 --> 00:07:46,366 The standard rate of pay in those days, the extras got one guinea a day. 68 00:07:47,497 --> 00:07:51,825 And there was something like, I don't know, 1 50 or 200 extras. 69 00:07:52,042 --> 00:07:57,120 They were paid at the end of the day by filing past a little booth. 70 00:07:57,298 --> 00:07:59,540 After a while, they realised what they could do, 71 00:07:59,884 --> 00:08:02,459 they'd get to the end of the queue and they'd change hats, 72 00:08:02,596 --> 00:08:04,718 or put on a different coat, 73 00:08:04,848 --> 00:08:07,683 and they'd go by and they'd take another guinea. 74 00:08:07,809 --> 00:08:10,301 They were making a fortune until they were found out. 75 00:08:10,438 --> 00:08:14,222 The queue was filing by for hours collecting guineas. 76 00:08:14,567 --> 00:08:16,690 I had a different home every week. 77 00:08:16,861 --> 00:08:23,825 I went to about 300 schools in my youth and learnt practically nothing. 78 00:08:23,994 --> 00:08:26,070 So where didyou pick up allyour skills? 79 00:08:26,246 --> 00:08:29,580 I read a pornographic book by Frank Harris. 80 00:08:29,708 --> 00:08:32,994 But in between the porn, there was all these great names he mentioned. 81 00:08:33,337 --> 00:08:38,130 He'd met all these great writers and painters and musicians. 82 00:08:38,259 --> 00:08:40,003 And I went out to Foyles 83 00:08:40,136 --> 00:08:44,430 and bought all the books he mentioned in his book, and I read the lot. 84 00:08:44,766 --> 00:08:47,054 That started it, and I kept on reading ever since. 85 00:08:47,185 --> 00:08:49,391 So you learned in between bits ofipornography? 86 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,348 Yes. 87 00:08:56,527 --> 00:09:00,822 The first job I had was really a kind of runner boy. I was... 88 00:09:00,950 --> 00:09:04,616 The director had some kind of flatulence problem. 89 00:09:04,704 --> 00:09:09,200 He was... he had to be given Vichy water. 90 00:09:09,375 --> 00:09:13,373 I had to hand him fresh, cold Vichy water at any time of the day, 91 00:09:13,505 --> 00:09:15,663 so I had to sort of have it all ready. 92 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:18,289 That was a silent picture. 93 00:09:18,426 --> 00:09:22,887 And then the next picture was the beginning of sound. 94 00:09:24,432 --> 00:09:27,518 Hitchcock was in the next stage. 95 00:09:28,646 --> 00:09:32,395 When sound films first came out, they had to be, obviously, synchronised, 96 00:09:32,692 --> 00:09:34,850 and to do that we had clappers. 97 00:09:34,986 --> 00:09:38,189 which was just two pieces of wood that did that, 98 00:09:38,322 --> 00:09:42,783 and then you'd put the sound against the picture as it closed. 99 00:09:42,910 --> 00:09:46,991 And the first clappers, they thought it was such an important function, 100 00:09:47,332 --> 00:09:49,455 that they gave it to the director, 101 00:09:49,626 --> 00:09:51,952 and he would solemnly announce the scene 102 00:09:52,171 --> 00:09:54,840 and then clap and sit down and say, "Action." 103 00:09:54,965 --> 00:09:56,958 It was considered a very vital thing. 104 00:09:57,176 --> 00:10:00,093 But after a while, he found it was a bit of a bore doing that, 105 00:10:00,262 --> 00:10:04,676 so they put the job with the young clapper boy, as he was called. 106 00:10:05,018 --> 00:10:09,976 He was a number boy, and he became a clapper boy, and I used to do that. 107 00:10:10,148 --> 00:10:11,642 4 take 1. 108 00:10:13,651 --> 00:10:17,982 While I was at B&D Studios, I was working on British quota pictures, 109 00:10:18,157 --> 00:10:21,407 which had to be completed in two to three weeks. 110 00:10:21,744 --> 00:10:25,362 I was then operating the camera, and you couldn't make any mistakes 111 00:10:25,539 --> 00:10:28,077 cos they'd never do another take, there wasn't time or money. 112 00:10:40,722 --> 00:10:45,764 (Challis) Korda brought over a lot of very good people 113 00:10:45,894 --> 00:10:52,942 and, I think, was instrumental in founding the sort of British school, if you like. 114 00:10:53,111 --> 00:10:58,532 I mean, he gave people the opportunity to learn from masters of their craft. 115 00:10:59,576 --> 00:11:02,576 (Singing) 116 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,202 Run, run, Orlando. 117 00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:13,921 (Cardiff) A lot of fascinating stars were coming over, and big directors, 118 00:11:14,091 --> 00:11:20,177 and, what was most important, very good top Hollywood cameramen. 119 00:11:20,348 --> 00:11:22,304 (Crowd shouting) 120 00:11:35,822 --> 00:11:37,067 What are you waiting for? 121 00:11:37,282 --> 00:11:39,655 Dietrich was a big sensation, of course, 122 00:11:39,994 --> 00:11:44,288 and she...she used to put gold dust in her hair. 123 00:11:44,415 --> 00:11:47,202 She knew about lighting, she'd worked with Josef von Sternberg. 124 00:11:47,376 --> 00:11:49,998 She would have been a great cameraman, 125 00:11:50,379 --> 00:11:54,081 and she knew that that lighting had to be so high, 126 00:11:54,259 --> 00:11:56,881 45 degrees, to make a shadow under the nose, 127 00:11:57,054 --> 00:12:01,217 and most cameramen over the years have done the same sort of lighting. 128 00:12:01,350 --> 00:12:04,885 She had a slightly turned-up nose. Like Marilyn Monroe, in fact. 129 00:12:05,062 --> 00:12:07,518 So to straighten it out she had this white line down here, 130 00:12:07,691 --> 00:12:11,901 and then inside here, inside the eyes, she put this white. 131 00:12:12,152 --> 00:12:15,273 See this white inside. It must've been painful to do this. 132 00:12:15,448 --> 00:12:18,568 She looked gorgeous. But she was in command of the lighting. 133 00:12:18,743 --> 00:12:22,955 She used to have a full-length mirror by the side of the camera. 134 00:12:23,123 --> 00:12:27,584 She'd look in the mirror and say, "Harry, the back light could get a bit hotter, 135 00:12:27,878 --> 00:12:30,286 "and how about the kicker light? " 136 00:12:30,464 --> 00:12:32,291 She used to comment on it, 137 00:12:32,425 --> 00:12:36,292 and Harry would whisper to me, "Goddamn it, she's always right." 138 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:39,674 - Have you had luck so far? - Wonderful luck. 139 00:12:39,807 --> 00:12:43,224 And the most wonderful of all was to meet you. 140 00:12:45,689 --> 00:12:48,939 - Do you think so? - Yes, I do think so. 141 00:12:50,527 --> 00:12:52,650 Even if tomorrow means the end of us... 142 00:12:54,615 --> 00:12:57,237 ...as it may do. 143 00:12:58,077 --> 00:13:00,484 What about this one? 144 00:13:00,662 --> 00:13:03,581 (Cardiff) We had this scene in the bath, 145 00:13:03,708 --> 00:13:05,701 and she came on the set, 146 00:13:05,835 --> 00:13:09,121 and we thought she was going to be in a swimming costume, 147 00:13:09,297 --> 00:13:10,757 which was the usual thing. 148 00:13:10,883 --> 00:13:13,669 When she took off her dressing gown, she was stark naked. 149 00:13:13,843 --> 00:13:17,924 Within half an hour of doing these shots in the bath, the place was crowded. 150 00:13:18,057 --> 00:13:21,675 There was about 1 6 electricians on the spot rail 151 00:13:21,810 --> 00:13:25,179 trying to look technical, holding lamps and things. 152 00:13:25,356 --> 00:13:29,056 The ground, which was a paper floor, was getting wetter and wetter. 153 00:13:29,193 --> 00:13:34,271 And as she got out, she slipped on the soapy water, and fell with a crash, 154 00:13:34,616 --> 00:13:38,910 and the towels missed her completely, east and west in the air, 155 00:13:39,079 --> 00:13:42,530 and there was the great Marlene floundering about on the floor, 156 00:13:42,666 --> 00:13:44,706 stark naked. 157 00:13:49,506 --> 00:13:51,998 (Heston) He started very early in colour. 158 00:13:52,260 --> 00:13:56,008 Started about when they started doing colour, I believe. 159 00:13:56,180 --> 00:13:58,054 It's a different medium, really. 160 00:13:58,182 --> 00:14:02,180 You light in a different way, which, of course, is the cameraman. 161 00:14:03,896 --> 00:14:05,973 (Cardiff) The Technicolor people had come over 162 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:10,812 to choose one young operator to be trained in Technicolor, 163 00:14:11,155 --> 00:14:12,435 and they came out shaking 164 00:14:12,657 --> 00:14:17,614 because the technical questions were absolutely...very, very tough. 165 00:14:17,745 --> 00:14:20,034 So, when it came to my turn, I said right away, 166 00:14:20,206 --> 00:14:22,780 "I'm afraid on the technical side, I'm zero," 167 00:14:22,917 --> 00:14:24,661 and there was a shocked silence, 168 00:14:24,794 --> 00:14:27,665 and they said, "How are you going to get on in the film business? " 169 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:32,168 I study painting and light and lighting buildings and so on, 170 00:14:32,302 --> 00:14:35,588 and they asked me, "Which side of the face did Rembrandt light? " 171 00:14:35,765 --> 00:14:39,892 I took a chance and said, "This side, and it'd be reversed in an etching," 172 00:14:40,018 --> 00:14:42,724 and then I talked about Pieter de Hooch and his interiors 173 00:14:42,897 --> 00:14:45,020 and the camera obscura and that stuff, 174 00:14:45,191 --> 00:14:49,024 and the next day I learnt that I had been chosen. 175 00:14:53,074 --> 00:14:56,241 Light comes through the front, obviously, through the lens, 176 00:14:56,453 --> 00:15:00,320 and there's a prism here, which is the soul of the Technicolor camera. 177 00:15:00,499 --> 00:15:04,876 Twenty-five per cent of the light comes straight through the prism 178 00:15:05,003 --> 00:15:07,625 on to the one film in this gate here. 179 00:15:07,756 --> 00:15:09,251 That's the green record. 180 00:15:09,634 --> 00:15:14,973 And then the other...rest of the light, 75 per cent of the light, 181 00:15:15,098 --> 00:15:17,968 comes through and is reflected on to a bipack. 182 00:15:18,142 --> 00:15:20,550 This is a bipack of the blue and the red records. 183 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:24,270 And, of course, the magazine holds three films. 184 00:15:24,483 --> 00:15:28,776 Of course, these things free the sprockets. They do nothing except that. 185 00:15:28,945 --> 00:15:32,445 But I used to put on this big act and say, "l think I'll put a bit more green here, 186 00:15:32,616 --> 00:15:34,823 "a little less blue there," 187 00:15:34,994 --> 00:15:39,039 and they believed it, they thought I was creating colour with the camera. 188 00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:52,799 (Challis) The whole camera department were American 189 00:15:52,971 --> 00:15:57,717 and Jack was the only one on the camera crew who was English. 190 00:15:57,852 --> 00:16:00,888 And he was the camera operator on it at Denham. 191 00:16:01,063 --> 00:16:05,144 - Here they come. - (Cheering) 192 00:16:05,359 --> 00:16:08,277 Donnerhill still in rather a pocket on Wings Of The Morning. 193 00:16:08,446 --> 00:16:10,604 (Cardiff) It was a fascinating new world, 194 00:16:10,782 --> 00:16:15,409 because I was into the lmpressionists at that time, 195 00:16:15,579 --> 00:16:17,986 and I was mad about the lmpressionist painters, 196 00:16:18,331 --> 00:16:20,408 and I thought, "Well, this is it." 197 00:16:30,928 --> 00:16:34,132 (Voiceover) The surface of anything you look at is absorbing some colour rays 198 00:16:34,307 --> 00:16:36,264 and is reflecting the rest. 199 00:16:36,393 --> 00:16:41,732 What it reflects strikes the eye and that's how we get our impression of colour. 200 00:16:41,857 --> 00:16:44,394 Colour is light and light is colour. 201 00:16:44,526 --> 00:16:46,186 (Challis) He always liked to experiment. 202 00:16:46,528 --> 00:16:50,941 He liked to apply certain things which he felt he'd learnt from painting 203 00:16:51,075 --> 00:16:53,993 to cinematography. 204 00:17:07,718 --> 00:17:12,960 As you see, I've always collected a lot of interesting paintings and drawings. 205 00:17:13,098 --> 00:17:16,883 I learnt a lot about painting... Well, I'm still learning, let's face it. 206 00:17:17,061 --> 00:17:22,732 And the main idea is I copied some painters, like I liked that Boucher. 207 00:17:22,984 --> 00:17:26,768 I couldn't afford to buy the real one and so I copied it, 208 00:17:26,905 --> 00:17:28,982 and that's the way to learn. 209 00:17:29,241 --> 00:17:32,027 A lot of real painters copy other painters, you know, 210 00:17:32,368 --> 00:17:36,699 because this way they learn from each other, in a way, it's an interesting thing. 211 00:17:36,874 --> 00:17:39,116 Some people say it's a copy. Yes, it's a copy. 212 00:17:39,251 --> 00:17:42,371 But it takes a long time to analyse the painting, to make the copy. 213 00:17:49,971 --> 00:17:56,057 Then I had a big break, because a German came in to Technicolor, 214 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:59,478 who was a count, Count von Keller. 215 00:17:59,606 --> 00:18:01,065 (Challis) He was a great traveller. 216 00:18:01,233 --> 00:18:06,109 He was a sort of...I don't know, you know, sort of buccaneer, almost. 217 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,107 He was a wonderful character. 218 00:18:08,324 --> 00:18:10,197 Somebody suggested to him, 219 00:18:10,367 --> 00:18:13,404 "When you're on these travels, why don't you make films? 220 00:18:13,579 --> 00:18:15,868 "Why don't you take along a Technicolor camera and crew 221 00:18:16,207 --> 00:18:18,248 "and make travel films? " 222 00:18:18,377 --> 00:18:22,539 (Voiceover) The work and spirit of the immortal Lawrence lives to this day, 223 00:18:22,713 --> 00:18:25,122 for Lawrence, in his quiet unobtrusive way, 224 00:18:25,259 --> 00:18:28,129 imparted to the dwellers of this wild territory 225 00:18:28,303 --> 00:18:31,174 a sense of law and order of which they had never dreamed. 226 00:18:31,390 --> 00:18:35,968 (Challis) Jack is in the middle and I'm on the right. That's in Palmyra in Syria. 227 00:18:36,145 --> 00:18:39,396 (Cardiff) We went to Africa and lndia and all over the world 228 00:18:39,566 --> 00:18:41,689 with a Technicolor camera. 229 00:18:43,403 --> 00:18:47,981 (Voiceover) The outside walls are richly carved with incidents from Hindu legend, 230 00:18:48,158 --> 00:18:51,858 so rich that not one panel resembles any other. 231 00:18:51,995 --> 00:18:54,321 (Challis) Most people hadn't been abroad. 232 00:18:54,457 --> 00:18:58,204 And to see places in colour was marvellous. 233 00:18:58,376 --> 00:19:01,544 (Voiceover) He is Nundi the bull. Nundi the joyous. 234 00:19:01,756 --> 00:19:04,922 Worshipped as an embodiment of the force of reproduction. 235 00:19:05,134 --> 00:19:08,006 (Challis) But Jack was the creative drive behind them. 236 00:19:08,263 --> 00:19:10,055 Nobody else had much idea 237 00:19:10,140 --> 00:19:14,968 about how to set about making it original and different. 238 00:19:19,066 --> 00:19:23,443 (Cardiff) When Vesuvius was on, and splotches of molten lava were falling, 239 00:19:23,612 --> 00:19:27,444 we had to sort of choose a moment to dash in and just point the camera. 240 00:19:27,616 --> 00:19:30,322 (Voiceover)..while from the lips of its many gaping mouths, the lava... 241 00:19:30,495 --> 00:19:34,113 I broke the prism and burnt the tripod legs. 242 00:19:34,374 --> 00:19:37,078 Burnt my shoes, anyway. But that's another story. 243 00:19:43,884 --> 00:19:46,256 (Christie) "Western Approaches" is an extraordinary film, 244 00:19:46,387 --> 00:19:50,681 because it's the first ever Technicolor documentary 245 00:19:50,808 --> 00:19:52,682 that isn't a travelogue. 246 00:19:52,893 --> 00:19:55,848 - What have you decided to do, sir? - Make for lreland. 247 00:19:55,981 --> 00:19:59,147 Prevailing winds in part of the Gulf Stream should be in our favour. 248 00:19:59,401 --> 00:20:03,612 (Cardiff) You had a lifeboat with 22 merchant seamen in it 249 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:07,114 and the Technicolor camera, it was very clumsy and very difficult to work, 250 00:20:07,242 --> 00:20:10,529 and the director and myself and a few assistants and so on. 251 00:20:10,872 --> 00:20:14,405 And we went out every day in the lrish Channel, which was absolutely horrible. 252 00:20:14,624 --> 00:20:16,368 (Voiceover) This is the "Forces Programme". 253 00:20:16,501 --> 00:20:19,337 Now here's a short recital of gramophone records. 254 00:20:19,505 --> 00:20:22,079 We're on the home stretch now. You can tell when you hear the old BBC. 255 00:20:22,383 --> 00:20:24,459 It won't be long now. 256 00:20:27,889 --> 00:20:30,130 (Christie) For the first time in living memory, 257 00:20:30,266 --> 00:20:33,766 British film-makers had a British audience. 258 00:20:36,939 --> 00:20:38,732 People enjoyed seeing British films. 259 00:20:39,067 --> 00:20:41,605 They actually preferred them in some cases to American films. 260 00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:45,190 They felt they came closer to the scene of the action. 261 00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:47,573 How could Americans understand 262 00:20:47,786 --> 00:20:51,617 what people in Britain were going through during the war? 263 00:20:51,790 --> 00:20:55,372 So towards the end of the war, I think British film-making was really on a high. 264 00:20:58,630 --> 00:21:00,173 (Cardiff) At that time, 265 00:21:00,341 --> 00:21:03,958 I had not yet photographed a feature film in its entirety. 266 00:21:04,135 --> 00:21:09,297 I'd done lots of little pieces and I'd worked mostly on the second unit, 267 00:21:09,392 --> 00:21:11,515 and I was desperate to get the big break. 268 00:21:11,686 --> 00:21:14,437 - (Gunshot) - (Clicks) 269 00:21:14,605 --> 00:21:18,188 - (Gunshots) - (Clicks) 270 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,444 (Schoonmaker) The main character, played by Roger Livesey, 271 00:21:21,738 --> 00:21:25,403 is trying to deal with his loneliness by going on safaris 272 00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:28,488 and shooting animals all over the world. 273 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:33,200 Jack Cardiff was doing the shooting of that as the second unit cameraman 274 00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:35,867 and my husband came in and watched him doing it. 275 00:21:36,087 --> 00:21:40,131 I heard a voice say, "Very interesting," and there was the great Michael Powell, 276 00:21:40,257 --> 00:21:44,090 and he said, "Would you like to photograph my next film? " 277 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:46,925 and I said, "Oh, yes, Mr Powell," and he went, 278 00:21:47,098 --> 00:21:51,178 and I thought, "He's just said that and he'll forget all about it," but he didn't. 279 00:21:51,311 --> 00:21:54,811 Are you wounded? Repeat, are you wounded? Are you bailing out? 280 00:21:55,024 --> 00:21:56,897 - What's your name? - June. 281 00:21:57,109 --> 00:21:58,568 Yes, June, I'm bailing out. 282 00:21:58,694 --> 00:22:01,731 I'm bailing out but there's a catch. I've got no parachute. 283 00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:05,109 Oh...hello? Hello, Peter? Do not understand. 284 00:22:05,284 --> 00:22:07,609 (Clock ticking) 285 00:22:07,786 --> 00:22:10,243 Hello? Hello, Peter? Can you hear me? 286 00:22:10,457 --> 00:22:14,122 (Schoonmaker) Michael Powell just felt that Jack was the man at that time 287 00:22:14,252 --> 00:22:20,172 who knew the most about how to get colour on to film in a new way. 288 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:22,257 The Archers had what was described 289 00:22:22,385 --> 00:22:24,877 as the longest period of subversive film-making 290 00:22:25,056 --> 00:22:26,883 within a major studio ever, 291 00:22:27,016 --> 00:22:31,844 and because their films were very popular, commercially successful, 292 00:22:32,021 --> 00:22:33,812 they got away with murder. 293 00:22:34,023 --> 00:22:36,895 (Michael Powell) We were our own bosses. 294 00:22:37,069 --> 00:22:39,690 We produced it, we wrote it, we directed it, 295 00:22:40,071 --> 00:22:44,200 and if anybody said to us, "May I suggest you do this? " 296 00:22:44,326 --> 00:22:46,449 we just said, "Eff off!" 297 00:22:46,578 --> 00:22:49,698 (Cardiff) It was a wonderful combination, because you had Michael, 298 00:22:49,873 --> 00:22:54,120 who was daring and running around and doing outlandish things, 299 00:22:54,294 --> 00:22:56,999 and Emeric, who was a brilliant writer anyway. 300 00:22:57,172 --> 00:23:00,377 He would be the one who occasionally would say to Michael, 301 00:23:00,593 --> 00:23:05,090 "This is going too far, because of this or that," and he'd usually be right. 302 00:23:05,223 --> 00:23:08,426 (Schoonmaker) They were fantastic. Fertile, imaginative mind. 303 00:23:08,601 --> 00:23:10,890 A very unique person in his own way. 304 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:16,443 And then you add Jack to the mix, you have a pretty powerful cocktail. 305 00:23:22,742 --> 00:23:25,067 (Cardiff) It was daunting for me, as my first film, 306 00:23:25,202 --> 00:23:29,580 and even for Michael Powell it was an ambitious project. 307 00:23:32,961 --> 00:23:37,540 We were doing an exterior and Michael said, "Wait, I'd love to have a fade-in, 308 00:23:37,674 --> 00:23:39,548 "but instead of just a fade-in 309 00:23:39,718 --> 00:23:43,585 "I'd like to have something different like a mist thing or something." 310 00:23:43,722 --> 00:23:45,880 And I said, "Look through the camera," 311 00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:49,558 so he looked through the camera and I went to the lens and went... 312 00:23:57,362 --> 00:24:00,446 (Scorsese) When I saw the Archers logo, I knew I was in for something special. 313 00:24:00,573 --> 00:24:04,026 Then I saw the name Cardiff attached with that, 314 00:24:04,161 --> 00:24:08,906 and I knew this was a unique...I was about to undergo a unique experience. 315 00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:16,505 - Child, where were you born? - In Boston, sir. 316 00:24:16,675 --> 00:24:20,837 I've made a bunch of films in Hollywood but nothing to compare with this. 317 00:24:21,178 --> 00:24:22,923 It was an enormous production. 318 00:24:23,265 --> 00:24:26,016 The court will adjourn. 319 00:24:29,814 --> 00:24:35,400 (Challis) It was, I've always thought, as pure cinema as Disney, really. 320 00:24:35,485 --> 00:24:39,401 I mean, you couldn't do it on the stage or in any other way. 321 00:24:41,993 --> 00:24:46,571 (Cardiff) I remember, in the first preparation days of the film, 322 00:24:46,706 --> 00:24:48,995 I said to him, quite casually, 323 00:24:49,292 --> 00:24:52,128 I said, "Michael, I suppose heaven will be in colour 324 00:24:52,463 --> 00:24:54,621 "and the earth will be in black and white." 325 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,296 He said, "No, the contrary." 326 00:24:57,468 --> 00:24:59,793 I said, "Why? " He said, "Everyone expects that." 327 00:24:59,928 --> 00:25:01,886 That was typical in his nature. 328 00:25:02,014 --> 00:25:03,425 He was perverse to the extent 329 00:25:03,557 --> 00:25:06,476 that he would like to do anything that was different. 330 00:25:06,561 --> 00:25:09,133 I mean, the ordinary was anathema to him. 331 00:25:09,271 --> 00:25:11,312 A little trick of mine, you remember? 332 00:25:11,483 --> 00:25:15,432 In order to get the transition from black and white to colour, 333 00:25:15,570 --> 00:25:18,655 we would shoot the main sequence in black and white 334 00:25:18,824 --> 00:25:23,366 but the penultimate shot was using the Technicolor camera 335 00:25:23,495 --> 00:25:26,995 so that they would be able to start in black and white 336 00:25:27,166 --> 00:25:29,123 and then bring in the colour. 337 00:25:29,251 --> 00:25:32,704 (Hunter) Marius Goring ad-libbed a line during one of the scenes 338 00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:37,002 and Mickey Powell immediately said, "Keep it in, good line." 339 00:25:37,343 --> 00:25:41,721 One is starved for Technicolor up there. 340 00:25:41,932 --> 00:25:45,976 (Hunter) Really throughout all of my life, I do not go to dailies, 341 00:25:46,144 --> 00:25:49,727 except that when we were doing "A Matter Of Life And Death", 342 00:25:49,898 --> 00:25:54,608 I was so curious that I did go, early on, 343 00:25:54,737 --> 00:26:00,610 I think for the first time that they had colour in the dailies, 344 00:26:00,827 --> 00:26:05,572 they clearly were not happy with the colour. 345 00:26:05,707 --> 00:26:08,625 They said, "Send it back," and, "Do better than that, 346 00:26:08,711 --> 00:26:10,833 "we must have it better than that!" 347 00:26:10,962 --> 00:26:14,249 So I have a feeling that Jack was very much behind all that. 348 00:26:21,057 --> 00:26:24,425 (Voiceover) Outside the Empire, thousands crowd the approaches 349 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,977 to see the royal family and also the many film stars and notabilities 350 00:26:28,148 --> 00:26:31,683 attending the Royal Command film performance. 351 00:26:31,818 --> 00:26:34,735 Michael Powell, one of the two producers of the film, on the stairway. 352 00:26:34,905 --> 00:26:36,363 (Cardiff) At the end of the picture, 353 00:26:36,489 --> 00:26:40,950 either the cameramen would collect these, put on one sheet, 354 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,742 or Technicolor would do it for him. 355 00:26:44,081 --> 00:26:47,117 I have several, and they're great fun to look at them. 356 00:27:06,021 --> 00:27:08,642 (Voiceover) Mopu is 8,000 feet up. 357 00:27:08,774 --> 00:27:11,691 The peaks on the range opposite are nearly as high as Everest. 358 00:27:11,860 --> 00:27:16,606 The people call the highest peak Nanga Devi. It means the bare goddess. 359 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:21,652 (Cardiff) On "Black Narcissus", we all expected to go on location to lndia, 360 00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:25,163 and we were greatly surprised when Michael Powell the director told us 361 00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:30,125 the entire film was going to be made at Pinewood Studios in England. 362 00:27:30,296 --> 00:27:35,540 (Powell) I saw it as a wonderful exercise for all...for all of us, 363 00:27:35,678 --> 00:27:40,672 to produce a real perfect colour work of art. 364 00:27:41,976 --> 00:27:46,306 (Cardiff) Michael collected around him the best technicians that were available 365 00:27:46,648 --> 00:27:51,024 and he had a brilliant art director, Alfred Junge. 366 00:27:51,193 --> 00:27:54,978 He was very German and highly organised, 367 00:27:55,115 --> 00:27:56,740 and if he designed a set, 368 00:27:57,075 --> 00:28:00,741 when you walked on for the first time, there would be a cross on the floor, 369 00:28:00,955 --> 00:28:05,034 and he said, "That is the camera position with a 35 millimetre lens." 370 00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:09,997 (Powell) Alfred Junge the designer and Jack Cardiff the cameraman 371 00:28:10,131 --> 00:28:15,126 would have endless arguments and conversations about settings, 372 00:28:15,303 --> 00:28:19,514 first of all on paper and then when they were painted, 373 00:28:19,641 --> 00:28:23,141 then in detail, and then when the set was there. 374 00:28:25,397 --> 00:28:29,525 (Challis) The exteriors out on the lot at Pinewood, with the Himalayas, 375 00:28:29,652 --> 00:28:31,062 were absolutely marvellous, 376 00:28:31,445 --> 00:28:34,815 because they were plaster mountains in perspective, 377 00:28:34,908 --> 00:28:37,031 but the result was just unbelievable. 378 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,828 You looked out of the window and it looked real. 379 00:28:39,995 --> 00:28:44,824 (Powell) Sometimes Alfred would have to tear half of it down 380 00:28:45,001 --> 00:28:48,585 and Jack pointed out that the kind of lighting that he wanted 381 00:28:48,756 --> 00:28:51,163 for this particular sequence 382 00:28:51,341 --> 00:28:54,924 couldn't be done because there was a wall in the way. 383 00:28:55,096 --> 00:28:57,669 Alfred would be furious. 384 00:28:57,807 --> 00:29:02,137 But together they just worked miracles. 385 00:29:04,355 --> 00:29:09,351 I mean, you never get the slightest feeling of studio, do you? 386 00:29:14,241 --> 00:29:16,566 (Cardiff) After the film was released, 387 00:29:16,743 --> 00:29:19,579 I believe Micky got a letter from someone in lndia 388 00:29:19,705 --> 00:29:23,075 who said that they knew the locations, they'd seen them. 389 00:29:23,251 --> 00:29:25,824 It was a good, good idea! 390 00:29:30,133 --> 00:29:33,833 (Cardiff) Vermeer was the sort of painter that I had in mind on "Black Narcissus" 391 00:29:34,012 --> 00:29:39,469 because the light had to be clear and as simple as possible. 392 00:29:45,524 --> 00:29:47,980 (Bell ringing) 393 00:29:51,698 --> 00:29:55,066 (Cardiff) When I did this green, having green filters in the filler light 394 00:29:55,201 --> 00:29:59,614 and sort of pinkish colours in the sun effects, 395 00:29:59,748 --> 00:30:01,622 it was a thing of anger, 396 00:30:01,792 --> 00:30:04,495 I tried to use the same kind of mood in that... 397 00:30:04,627 --> 00:30:08,376 I mean, any cameraman would get ideas from Van Gogh 398 00:30:08,548 --> 00:30:10,755 and moods of light and things. 399 00:30:10,884 --> 00:30:12,842 Light is the principal agent, 400 00:30:12,929 --> 00:30:16,464 and that should be the same with photography, 401 00:30:16,807 --> 00:30:21,968 that the use of light is like a painter, that you use it in a simple form. 402 00:30:24,774 --> 00:30:27,231 (Scorsese) The emotional and psychological connection 403 00:30:27,361 --> 00:30:29,898 that was made through certain lighting in paintings, 404 00:30:30,029 --> 00:30:33,067 I felt, watching those pictures that he photographed. 405 00:30:33,284 --> 00:30:34,826 He made them special. 406 00:30:34,952 --> 00:30:39,115 Because of that, you wanted to be in that world with them. 407 00:30:44,128 --> 00:30:48,755 You can't order me about. You have nothing to do with me any more. 408 00:30:49,050 --> 00:30:51,209 I know what you've done. I know that you've left the order. 409 00:30:51,386 --> 00:30:54,755 I only want to stop you from doing something you'll be sorry for. 410 00:30:54,931 --> 00:30:58,098 Sister Philippa is going back in a few days' time. I want to send you with her. 411 00:30:58,226 --> 00:31:02,889 That's what you would like to do, send me back and shut me up. 412 00:31:02,982 --> 00:31:05,817 (Schoonmaker) Michael Powell felt colour was part of the narrative. 413 00:31:05,943 --> 00:31:08,150 Sister Clodagh, Sister Clodagh! 414 00:31:08,321 --> 00:31:10,479 - You know what she says about you? - Whatever she said, it was true! 415 00:31:10,698 --> 00:31:14,197 - You say that because you love her! - I don't love anyone! 416 00:31:14,368 --> 00:31:16,860 (Sister Ruth) Clodagh. Clodagh. 417 00:31:17,206 --> 00:31:18,913 Clodagh! Clodagh! 418 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,910 - Clodagh! Clodagh! - (Crash) 419 00:31:22,044 --> 00:31:26,124 When I saw their work on screen, this was like being bathed in colour. 420 00:31:26,298 --> 00:31:30,344 It was palpable. It was...it... I don't know what... 421 00:31:30,512 --> 00:31:33,927 The colour itself became the emotion of the picture. 422 00:31:38,228 --> 00:31:42,640 The atmosphere that was created around me was fantastic. 423 00:31:42,774 --> 00:31:44,813 I was most inspired by it. 424 00:31:49,155 --> 00:31:53,106 I mean, I thought I was just going out looking a bit malevolent. 425 00:31:55,995 --> 00:32:02,533 But when I saw it on the screen, I was amazed at this great blare of music 426 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:05,874 and this incredible face with the wet hair. 427 00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:09,583 He gave me half of my performance with the lighting. 428 00:32:13,223 --> 00:32:16,058 (Michael Powell) When Arthur Rank... 429 00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:21,890 he took it to California, showed it in Hollywood, 430 00:32:22,024 --> 00:32:24,978 it got the most wonderful technical praise. 431 00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:27,269 The art direction got two Oscars. 432 00:32:27,405 --> 00:32:31,403 Jack Cardiff's photography got another Oscar. 433 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:38,946 (Scorsese) The whole communication of the film, what it tries to communicate, 434 00:32:39,084 --> 00:32:43,296 is combined through costume, the positioning of people in the frame, 435 00:32:43,464 --> 00:32:46,133 the movement of people within the frame, 436 00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:51,128 sometimes the movement of the frame itself, light, shadow, colour, 437 00:32:51,305 --> 00:32:53,678 and cutting, all to music. 438 00:32:53,892 --> 00:32:55,766 All designed specifically to music. 439 00:32:55,936 --> 00:32:59,469 Then they took it and went further with it with "The Red Shoes" ballet. 440 00:33:08,282 --> 00:33:10,570 The last day but one of "Black Narcissus", 441 00:33:10,742 --> 00:33:13,114 Michael Powell said to me, "What do you think about ballet? " 442 00:33:13,286 --> 00:33:18,282 I said, "Not much, all these sissies prancing about, I don't think much of it." 443 00:33:18,459 --> 00:33:21,580 And he was amused rather than horrified. 444 00:33:21,755 --> 00:33:25,205 He said, "Jack, you'd better get to like ballet, because this is your next film. 445 00:33:25,550 --> 00:33:30,129 "I've got tickets for you to go practically every night." I thought, "Oh, my God!" 446 00:33:30,264 --> 00:33:34,096 Very shortly, of course, I became absolutely wrapped up in ballet 447 00:33:34,226 --> 00:33:36,183 and I loved it. 448 00:33:36,311 --> 00:33:38,767 Actually, Miss Page, I want more, much more. 449 00:33:39,106 --> 00:33:42,939 I want to create, to make something big out of something little. 450 00:33:43,153 --> 00:33:46,403 (Schoonmaker) The theme of "The Red Shoes", of course, is that... 451 00:33:46,573 --> 00:33:51,199 Michael was saying that if you want to be on the cutting edge of your art form, 452 00:33:51,536 --> 00:33:53,279 you have to be prepared to pay the consequences, 453 00:33:53,621 --> 00:34:00,158 because you're challenging everybody when you start breaking conventions, 454 00:34:00,295 --> 00:34:04,756 and you have to be aware that some people may be able to attack you 455 00:34:05,092 --> 00:34:06,421 and bring you down when you do this. 456 00:34:06,635 --> 00:34:08,961 Why do you want to dance? 457 00:34:12,475 --> 00:34:15,179 Why do you want to live? 458 00:34:15,311 --> 00:34:19,641 I don't know exactly why, but I must. 459 00:34:20,901 --> 00:34:22,728 That's my answer too. 460 00:34:22,903 --> 00:34:29,071 Some ballet enthusiasts feel that it's not the best shooting of ballet. 461 00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:33,449 The best shooting of ballet, to be literal about it, would be from head to toe, 462 00:34:33,581 --> 00:34:34,992 Fred Astaire had in his contract 463 00:34:35,124 --> 00:34:38,209 that you had to keep photographing him from head to toe. 464 00:34:41,172 --> 00:34:45,752 But they changed that completely. They paid no attention to that. 465 00:34:45,886 --> 00:34:50,013 They made a film about what goes on inside the dancer's head. 466 00:35:01,026 --> 00:35:05,854 It's how the dancer, he or she, sees themselves, while they're dancing. 467 00:35:06,031 --> 00:35:09,117 So you get the spirit of the dance, you get the spirit of it, 468 00:35:09,244 --> 00:35:14,036 and I applied that later to the boxing scenes in "Raging Bull". 469 00:35:17,878 --> 00:35:19,585 What they hear, what they see. 470 00:35:19,754 --> 00:35:22,507 What they hear and what they see, very important. 471 00:35:22,717 --> 00:35:25,919 (Cardiff) Michael Powell had courage. 472 00:35:26,094 --> 00:35:30,093 He would risk, he would take a risk, a big chance to do something, 473 00:35:30,224 --> 00:35:34,389 which might seem crazy but it usually came off. 474 00:35:34,521 --> 00:35:38,388 (Schoonmaker) The camera devices are welded to the material. 475 00:35:38,691 --> 00:35:40,849 They're welded to the emotion of the film. 476 00:35:41,027 --> 00:35:44,527 They are for the purpose of impacting the audience. 477 00:35:50,537 --> 00:35:55,995 I think because Jack had vision, you know, 478 00:35:56,169 --> 00:35:58,956 about what he was going to do, 479 00:35:59,089 --> 00:36:02,504 he didn't feel curbed by the restrictions of that time. 480 00:36:02,634 --> 00:36:07,177 I had the idea of increasing the speed of the camera very rapidly, 481 00:36:07,347 --> 00:36:11,761 that as he jumped, I went from 24 frames to 48 frames 482 00:36:11,936 --> 00:36:14,971 for about less than a second. 483 00:36:15,146 --> 00:36:18,516 So it went up, and as it got up it was going much faster, 484 00:36:18,693 --> 00:36:20,934 which slowed him down imperceptibly, 485 00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:24,067 and he seemed to linger in the air on the top of the jump. 486 00:36:24,241 --> 00:36:26,613 (Music plays) 487 00:36:26,994 --> 00:36:31,371 (Schoonmaker) They were coming up with great ways to use the camera, 488 00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:35,835 and when you see how big that thing was, how they did it, I don't know. 489 00:36:36,003 --> 00:36:39,585 I mean, they did call it the "enchanted cottage", cos it was so huge. 490 00:36:39,756 --> 00:36:43,256 How they moved that thing around, I don't know. It was amazing. 491 00:36:43,593 --> 00:36:46,002 - Can you imagine? - Things have changed. 492 00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:49,596 It was enormous, and you didn't have much room to get the lights round it. 493 00:36:49,934 --> 00:36:54,311 (Challis) That's the famous Technicolor camera. Jack, me. 494 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,349 The camera flying in and out as though from the point of view of a dancer. 495 00:36:58,527 --> 00:37:00,354 Would be a hand-held shot these days, 496 00:37:00,487 --> 00:37:04,531 but the camera is on a sort of bungee slung from a chain in the roof. 497 00:37:18,339 --> 00:37:24,378 (Scorsese) You begin to see, I must say, flourishes, where the camera cut, 498 00:37:24,554 --> 00:37:27,758 or a piece of composition for the length of the shot, 499 00:37:27,934 --> 00:37:35,016 that you begin to realise that he's using the lens like brush strokes. 500 00:37:36,234 --> 00:37:39,650 It becomes like moving paintings. You know, it's a painting he's made. 501 00:37:40,029 --> 00:37:43,564 Along with Hein Heckroth, Michael and Emeric Pressburger, there's no doubt. 502 00:37:43,741 --> 00:37:47,325 But it's a painting, paintings that moved, extraordinarily moved, 503 00:37:47,454 --> 00:37:53,990 not only moved visually but emotionally and psychologically also. 504 00:38:06,515 --> 00:38:09,766 There was something so audacious about "Red Shoes", 505 00:38:09,936 --> 00:38:13,435 and something that was so utterly, um... 506 00:38:14,649 --> 00:38:18,943 unique, different from any film being made at the time. 507 00:38:20,989 --> 00:38:23,196 (Woman speaking French) 508 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:26,284 Qu'est-ce que tu as? 509 00:38:26,412 --> 00:38:28,155 Mon petit. 510 00:38:28,330 --> 00:38:30,454 Et ou vas-tu? 511 00:38:30,708 --> 00:38:33,875 Mon petit! 512 00:38:42,554 --> 00:38:44,677 No! 513 00:38:46,016 --> 00:38:49,883 The lessons of those films have never left me. I still keep drawing upon them. 514 00:38:50,103 --> 00:38:54,019 It's had a huge influence. Particularly on Scorsese and Brian de Palma. 515 00:38:54,192 --> 00:38:57,442 De Palma. De Palma, easily. The expressionism. 516 00:38:57,612 --> 00:38:58,857 It's about expressing colour, 517 00:38:59,197 --> 00:39:03,526 it's expressing, you know, the glint of a knife and the colour of the blood. 518 00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:05,867 It's all there with Brian. Look at "Scarface". 519 00:39:06,121 --> 00:39:08,790 And Lucas and Coppola. 520 00:39:08,998 --> 00:39:11,751 And then of course you have Francis all the time. "Godfather". 521 00:39:11,877 --> 00:39:13,870 Clearly in "One From The Heart". 522 00:39:14,088 --> 00:39:16,294 It's about passion, I think. 523 00:39:16,423 --> 00:39:22,094 You could feel these people were really, really dedicated and involved. 524 00:39:22,221 --> 00:39:25,258 (Cardiff) When it was cut, it was shown to Mr Rank. 525 00:39:25,433 --> 00:39:28,103 Usually if a film isn't very good, you know, 526 00:39:28,436 --> 00:39:31,770 they might sort of put on a little bit of an act, and say, "Most interesting," 527 00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:35,391 and, you know, and say, "Well done," or something and walk out. 528 00:39:35,694 --> 00:39:39,228 But on this occasion they walked out, they got up, 529 00:39:39,365 --> 00:39:41,654 and they walked out without saying a word to Michael Powell. 530 00:39:41,993 --> 00:39:44,484 They just ignored him, just walked straight out, 531 00:39:44,579 --> 00:39:47,496 because they were convinced that it was a disastrous film. 532 00:39:47,707 --> 00:39:49,699 J Arthur Rank thought they'd gone mad 533 00:39:49,834 --> 00:39:52,835 and said, "This is terrible, we have to stop this kind of film-making. 534 00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:56,795 "From now on, we will tell them what to make", and Michael said, "You won't." 535 00:39:57,049 --> 00:40:01,712 It was a very sad end to a great, great period of film-making. 536 00:40:03,557 --> 00:40:07,222 (Alan Parker) I mean, they're seminal films, you know, 537 00:40:07,395 --> 00:40:10,265 but they're a particular aesthetic. 538 00:40:10,397 --> 00:40:14,728 It's the kind of aesthetic that actually will be great art. 539 00:40:14,903 --> 00:40:16,860 - And then it will be kitsch... - Yes. 540 00:40:17,072 --> 00:40:19,527 ...and then it'll be art again. 541 00:40:33,672 --> 00:40:37,540 I've signed all over England and America too, 542 00:40:37,718 --> 00:40:40,423 and I just lost count. 543 00:40:40,596 --> 00:40:43,432 - I'll put happy birthday. - Yeah, that would be very good. 544 00:40:43,558 --> 00:40:45,598 I'm outside the studio gates once, 545 00:40:45,769 --> 00:40:49,980 I'd just come back from seeing Marilyn Monroe and Laurence Olivier, 546 00:40:50,148 --> 00:40:52,521 and as they came through the gates they're all screaming. 547 00:40:52,859 --> 00:40:56,443 I went by and they said, "Who's that? " and somebody said, "He's just nobody." 548 00:40:56,572 --> 00:41:01,198 - So how did you feel? - Well, just like a nobody. 549 00:41:03,621 --> 00:41:05,530 (Christie) After working with Powell and Pressburger, 550 00:41:05,665 --> 00:41:07,704 Jack had a remarkable career, 551 00:41:07,834 --> 00:41:11,666 because in quite a short space of time, in less than ten years, 552 00:41:11,754 --> 00:41:15,123 he worked with many of the greatest film-makers in the world. 553 00:41:15,258 --> 00:41:18,011 It's a real roll call that starts with Hitchcock. 554 00:41:26,645 --> 00:41:28,638 (George Turner) Hitchcock had just made "Rope", 555 00:41:28,814 --> 00:41:31,816 and it was 80 minutes, it was supposedly one take. 556 00:41:32,027 --> 00:41:37,696 A lot of eight-minute and nine-minute takes put together 557 00:41:37,823 --> 00:41:40,778 so that the picture appeared to be in actual time. 558 00:41:40,952 --> 00:41:43,324 (Cardiff) I think Hitch was in love with this idea, 559 00:41:43,455 --> 00:41:45,994 because he felt a certain technical satisfaction. 560 00:41:46,125 --> 00:41:48,615 Ingrid Bergman, she is alleged to have said, 561 00:41:48,793 --> 00:41:52,543 "You care more about the technicalities than you do about the acting." 562 00:41:52,673 --> 00:41:55,877 (Cardiff) He put everything in the preparation of the picture. 563 00:41:56,135 --> 00:41:59,837 He rarely looked through the camera, because he knew what it was getting. 564 00:42:00,015 --> 00:42:02,932 He'd say to me, "Jack, you've got the 35 lens on? " "Yes." 565 00:42:03,059 --> 00:42:07,521 "You're getting the hands in the picture? " He knew what he was getting. 566 00:42:07,731 --> 00:42:10,436 (Handford) It was the first crane of its kind 567 00:42:10,567 --> 00:42:13,652 that ran entirely independent of tracks. 568 00:42:13,904 --> 00:42:18,317 (Cardiff) The camera started in the front of the house, 569 00:42:18,450 --> 00:42:20,989 through the kitchen and then into the drawing room. 570 00:42:21,162 --> 00:42:24,662 Talk, talk, talk, and went into the hall. 571 00:42:24,749 --> 00:42:28,201 (Handford) Parts of the set would have to slide open 572 00:42:28,336 --> 00:42:31,586 to allow the camera crane to go through them. 573 00:42:31,923 --> 00:42:34,497 We'd pan round to where the walls had been closed. 574 00:42:34,677 --> 00:42:40,465 (Cardiff) I had to light six or eight sets, more. Dozens of different positions. 575 00:42:40,598 --> 00:42:43,553 Round and round. Back to the hall. 576 00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:46,011 All in one shot without the camera stopping. 577 00:42:46,188 --> 00:42:50,103 I had electricians holding lamps, and dodging under a table and coming up. 578 00:42:50,276 --> 00:42:54,523 On one occasion we had a shot where we had to go upstairs, 579 00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:56,566 through the door, 580 00:42:56,658 --> 00:43:01,285 and as we approached her bed, we went into a big close-up 581 00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:04,330 when instead of going up, looking down on the bed like that, 582 00:43:04,499 --> 00:43:07,417 which was a cumbersome thing to do, 583 00:43:07,586 --> 00:43:11,501 we approached her straight and the bed was on electronic things, 584 00:43:11,633 --> 00:43:15,166 and as you tracked in, the bed would come up like this, 585 00:43:15,427 --> 00:43:19,093 so that you'd have a big close-up without the camera going too high. 586 00:43:19,307 --> 00:43:22,308 (Handford) It ended up by not being ten-minute takes. 587 00:43:22,477 --> 00:43:27,269 There were some very long takes but it became impractical to do. 588 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,727 (Cardiff) It couldn't possibly be wonderful photography 589 00:43:30,861 --> 00:43:33,483 because everything was a compromise. 590 00:43:33,656 --> 00:43:38,117 But it was really my greatest achievement, in a funny way, 591 00:43:38,328 --> 00:43:41,992 because it was doing the impossible. 592 00:43:44,124 --> 00:43:48,075 I'm just going outside. I may be away some time. 593 00:43:51,216 --> 00:43:52,959 (Wind howls) 594 00:44:02,812 --> 00:44:08,151 It was probably one of the most marvellous pictures I've ever been on, 595 00:44:08,359 --> 00:44:14,149 and I had the luck of having a fantastic cameraman. 596 00:44:28,339 --> 00:44:30,876 (Scorsese) There was something very special and unique 597 00:44:31,049 --> 00:44:33,208 about the English use of Technicolor, 598 00:44:33,385 --> 00:44:36,470 particularly by a man like Cardiff. 599 00:44:36,598 --> 00:44:40,513 That became something else, and had a lot to do with emotion, and painting. 600 00:44:40,686 --> 00:44:43,769 Not to say that the American cinematographers didn't use painting. 601 00:44:43,938 --> 00:44:45,433 They were brilliant. 602 00:44:45,607 --> 00:44:49,558 But how should I put it? That was a different type of commodity. 603 00:44:52,907 --> 00:44:54,186 (Christie) Jack joined Hollywood 604 00:44:54,407 --> 00:44:58,358 at the point at which it really began to march out into the world. 605 00:45:07,713 --> 00:45:10,668 (Christie) I think that was a very exciting moment for a cinematographer, 606 00:45:10,842 --> 00:45:13,677 to be working with those Hollywood film-makers. 607 00:45:13,845 --> 00:45:15,673 He worked with Henry Hathaway. 608 00:45:15,807 --> 00:45:17,716 (Cardiff) He was a toughie. 609 00:45:17,850 --> 00:45:22,477 On "The Black Rose", he fired so many people 610 00:45:22,689 --> 00:45:25,014 that we had a plane called the Hathaway Special 611 00:45:25,149 --> 00:45:29,229 which flew people, every couple of days, that had been fired, back to England. 612 00:45:29,404 --> 00:45:34,564 He would devote his life to that picture. He would die for that picture, you know. 613 00:45:34,701 --> 00:45:38,616 And he expected everyone else to die for the picture. 614 00:45:38,789 --> 00:45:42,952 And if they were not ready to die, he would just crucify them. 615 00:45:43,167 --> 00:45:45,161 (Screams and war cries) 616 00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,592 I never saw anyone look less like young gallants going off on a great adventure. 617 00:45:56,765 --> 00:45:58,474 (Cardiff) He said he'd play Genghis Khan 618 00:45:58,643 --> 00:46:04,148 on condition that his coat was lined inside with mink. 619 00:46:04,441 --> 00:46:08,521 They said, "But, Orson, we don't see the mink coat, and it's expensive." 620 00:46:08,862 --> 00:46:10,985 Orson said, "I've got to do it that way." 621 00:46:11,156 --> 00:46:14,074 So, OK, they got the mink and they put it in. 622 00:46:14,202 --> 00:46:17,156 You never saw it inside, the lining inside. 623 00:46:17,288 --> 00:46:20,455 Of course, at the end of the film, when his part was finished, 624 00:46:20,583 --> 00:46:22,825 he slipped off with the coat 625 00:46:22,919 --> 00:46:26,787 and went off to do some more scenes on "Othello" 626 00:46:26,965 --> 00:46:30,714 and turned the coat inside out so that he had the mink coat for "Othello". 627 00:46:30,886 --> 00:46:33,555 What are you stewin' about, mon capitaine? 628 00:46:33,764 --> 00:46:36,302 Bonnard told you where we were going last night. 629 00:46:36,475 --> 00:46:38,764 - Where? - The Sahara Desert. 630 00:46:39,061 --> 00:46:40,686 Straight ahead and turn to your left. 631 00:46:42,398 --> 00:46:45,351 (Cardiff) On the first day of shooting, when John Wayne... 632 00:46:45,567 --> 00:46:49,862 He played the part of a Foreign Legionnaire. 633 00:46:50,031 --> 00:46:53,697 He came on the set and he had... he had a cowboy hat on, 634 00:46:53,869 --> 00:46:58,115 and the holster and the boots and the gun, just like a cowboy. 635 00:46:58,289 --> 00:47:03,083 And I said to Hathaway, "Henry, why is he wearing that cowboy outfit? " 636 00:47:03,212 --> 00:47:05,169 Hathaway looked at me like I was an idiot 637 00:47:05,339 --> 00:47:08,840 and he said, "He always wears the cowboy outfit." 638 00:47:09,051 --> 00:47:12,919 He was always doing the withdrawing-the-gun business, you know, 639 00:47:13,097 --> 00:47:16,681 and flicking it round and flicking it back again. 640 00:47:16,852 --> 00:47:19,853 I did a lot of shots of him doing that. 641 00:47:20,022 --> 00:47:23,188 Someone gave Sophia one of these things you blow and it comes out, 642 00:47:23,358 --> 00:47:24,936 and she loved that. 643 00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:29,191 Hathaway was a wonderful director, 644 00:47:29,365 --> 00:47:36,079 but he was a man who, in a sense, bulldozed his way along. 645 00:47:36,331 --> 00:47:38,122 (Cardiff) He had got far worse on that picture, 646 00:47:38,458 --> 00:47:42,919 because we had this desert, which had to be virgin desert, you know, 647 00:47:43,047 --> 00:47:45,205 no sign of a footprint or anything. 648 00:47:45,507 --> 00:47:50,051 And you can imagine a film unit walking about. He was going crazy. 649 00:48:01,148 --> 00:48:05,017 The English crew were having a cup of tea in this so-called place, 650 00:48:05,278 --> 00:48:08,861 and he'd put up a notice on the board 651 00:48:09,032 --> 00:48:12,068 because he hated the whole idea of the English unit having tea. 652 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,200 He said, "ln future," on the notice board, 653 00:48:14,371 --> 00:48:18,286 "the English crew will drink their tea standing up." 654 00:48:18,417 --> 00:48:21,454 And he said, "Come on, Jack, let's find these locations." 655 00:48:21,629 --> 00:48:25,709 I said, "Henry, you've blown it. You've made a terrible mistake." 656 00:48:25,883 --> 00:48:28,837 He said, "What the hell are you talking about? " and I said, "Well... 657 00:48:29,011 --> 00:48:31,051 "at the moment the English crew respect you. 658 00:48:31,180 --> 00:48:33,672 "They don't particularly like you but they respect you. 659 00:48:33,851 --> 00:48:39,011 "But now you've done that, English tea, forget it, you're a villain from now on." 660 00:48:39,189 --> 00:48:43,317 He said, "Oh, you're full of shit," and he just thought for a moment, 661 00:48:43,443 --> 00:48:45,603 then he turned the car round and drove back, 662 00:48:45,739 --> 00:48:48,442 and he tore the notice board off the screen. 663 00:48:55,206 --> 00:49:00,283 I've got something for you too, and it's my heart, black as it is, but all of it. 664 00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:04,038 The assistant director had come on the set and said, "Flynn's arrived. 665 00:49:04,174 --> 00:49:06,630 "He's gone straight to the bar and he's drinking double whiskies 666 00:49:06,802 --> 00:49:09,210 "followed by beer chasers." 667 00:49:09,346 --> 00:49:12,797 So when I got to the bar and I was introduced to him... 668 00:49:12,932 --> 00:49:17,845 He was never really drunk. He was always slightly sort of pleasantly drunk. 669 00:49:18,022 --> 00:49:22,186 Errol fell ill halfway through "Crossed Swords", 670 00:49:22,444 --> 00:49:26,143 and he collapsed and was taken to hospital, 671 00:49:26,405 --> 00:49:32,361 and the doctor said, "Well, I'm afraid we think he's dying. 672 00:49:32,496 --> 00:49:35,367 "His liver doesn't exist any more. He has no liver." 673 00:49:35,541 --> 00:49:40,416 And the producer said, "You don't understand. We're making a movie." 674 00:49:40,587 --> 00:49:45,749 We carried on shooting with a double. We did mostly Gina's stuff. 675 00:49:45,885 --> 00:49:52,220 And in something like three or four weeks, he came on the set, 676 00:49:52,350 --> 00:49:55,351 and he did look pretty awful but he had survived. 677 00:49:56,313 --> 00:49:58,270 The doctor said, "Well, it's a miracle, 678 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,394 "but, of course, he must never touch a drop of drink again." 679 00:50:01,568 --> 00:50:06,943 And he came on the set with a glass of that much neat vodka, 680 00:50:07,074 --> 00:50:09,780 and as usual...carried on as usual. 681 00:50:15,291 --> 00:50:17,331 You have been studying my style, monsieur! 682 00:50:17,544 --> 00:50:21,127 One has to understand at that time films were still enter... 683 00:50:21,256 --> 00:50:23,462 I was going to say films were still entertainment. 684 00:50:23,593 --> 00:50:25,502 No, today they're entertainment too. 685 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,838 But at that time they were coming out of the old Hollywood system. 686 00:50:29,014 --> 00:50:31,303 There were Westerns, they were genre films, 687 00:50:31,642 --> 00:50:35,177 and Technicolor was used for heightening the genre. 688 00:50:36,355 --> 00:50:41,694 In the '40s and '50s, colour was still relegated to films as a special element, 689 00:50:42,028 --> 00:50:44,400 rather than what happened in the late '60s and the early '70s 690 00:50:44,572 --> 00:50:46,197 where all films became colour. 691 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,422 Jack was suggested by the producer of the picture, 692 00:51:04,593 --> 00:51:07,429 who also happened to be the star. 693 00:51:07,555 --> 00:51:10,177 That's Kirk Douglas. 694 00:51:11,434 --> 00:51:14,389 (Kirk Douglas) The shooting was very difficult. 695 00:51:14,522 --> 00:51:17,724 It seemed to be raining all the time. 696 00:51:17,941 --> 00:51:21,108 And once, in exasperation, 697 00:51:21,237 --> 00:51:25,234 I asked one of the young Norwegian kids, 698 00:51:25,408 --> 00:51:29,571 "Hey, does it rain all the time here? " 699 00:51:29,745 --> 00:51:33,791 He said, "l don't know. I'm only 1 8 years old." 700 00:51:35,293 --> 00:51:38,247 (Cardiff) I suggested to Dick, "Why don't we shoot in the rain? 701 00:51:38,380 --> 00:51:41,085 "Because these Vikings are tough guys, you know, 702 00:51:41,216 --> 00:51:43,789 "and they would be out in all weathers." 703 00:51:44,011 --> 00:51:47,047 Dick agreed and Kirk Douglas was overjoyed, 704 00:51:47,180 --> 00:51:51,096 because it means that we could shoot, wouldn't lose so much money. 705 00:51:51,269 --> 00:51:55,313 But as people know in the film business, ordinary rain doesn't photograph. 706 00:51:55,481 --> 00:51:59,313 So we had to supplement it with hoses coming down. 707 00:51:59,444 --> 00:52:01,687 The local villagers thought we were out of our minds. 708 00:52:01,864 --> 00:52:03,940 It was already raining and we were adding rain to it. 709 00:52:04,074 --> 00:52:06,196 But it worked very well. 710 00:52:06,534 --> 00:52:08,991 Kirk Douglas, he liked doing his own stunts. 711 00:52:09,121 --> 00:52:10,995 In fact, he was a very good... 712 00:52:11,165 --> 00:52:14,997 He had a good sense of timing and all the things that are good in a stunt man. 713 00:52:15,127 --> 00:52:18,461 - He does the shot walking on the oars. - That's right. 714 00:52:18,631 --> 00:52:20,754 He fell in once or twice but he soon got the hang of it. 715 00:52:21,091 --> 00:52:23,500 But that was considered a must, that he had to fall off, 716 00:52:23,678 --> 00:52:26,300 cos he was too perfect, in fact. 717 00:52:27,224 --> 00:52:32,562 When he climbs up the wall of the castle, after having thrown the axe, 718 00:52:32,687 --> 00:52:34,680 he climbed himself. 719 00:52:41,489 --> 00:52:42,947 (Fleischer) With Jack's ingenuity, 720 00:52:43,073 --> 00:52:47,368 we were able to do some pretty remarkable shots. 721 00:52:47,453 --> 00:52:51,867 And looking at the film now, I'm really astounded at how well they turned out, 722 00:52:52,042 --> 00:52:54,035 knowing how they were made, 723 00:52:54,169 --> 00:52:58,037 which is really with spit and cardboard and some rubber bands, 724 00:52:58,257 --> 00:53:00,415 and it worked great. 725 00:53:04,429 --> 00:53:08,676 Jack and I were very worried, how are we gonna make this scene, 726 00:53:09,059 --> 00:53:15,312 where you have all the Viking ships going into a fog bank and disappearing. 727 00:53:15,442 --> 00:53:19,985 And it's essential to the story that you have that scene. 728 00:53:20,155 --> 00:53:22,527 And Jack solved the problem with us. 729 00:53:22,699 --> 00:53:25,784 He said, "lf we could just get a patch of fog, 730 00:53:25,995 --> 00:53:29,530 "where the ships go into the patch of fog, 731 00:53:29,874 --> 00:53:34,619 "that's all I really need, and I'll make up the rest of the fog, 732 00:53:34,795 --> 00:53:36,704 "I'll make my own filter, 733 00:53:37,006 --> 00:53:40,625 "and paint it, a white filter, 734 00:53:40,802 --> 00:53:44,135 "which we'll just put up in front of the camera and leave a square, 735 00:53:44,263 --> 00:53:46,933 "where the real fog is." 736 00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:49,971 And that's what we did. 737 00:53:50,145 --> 00:53:54,891 And it's absolutely convincing. It's a fantastic shot. 738 00:53:55,068 --> 00:53:58,067 Every time I see it, I get a chill, knowing how it was made, 739 00:53:58,195 --> 00:54:00,865 but also the beauty of the shot. 740 00:54:03,576 --> 00:54:09,246 Jack, certainly, looking at his work, and having worked with him, 741 00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:15,829 is probably the greatest colour photographer that ever lived. 742 00:54:18,425 --> 00:54:21,461 (Cardiff) Turner, well, I mean, he was the perfect cameraman. 743 00:54:21,636 --> 00:54:23,464 If he'd been alive today, 744 00:54:23,597 --> 00:54:26,764 he would have been probably the best cameraman in the world. 745 00:54:27,059 --> 00:54:31,687 I mean the way that he got dramatic emphasis by over-lighting things 746 00:54:31,815 --> 00:54:35,859 which takes courage, with a cameraman, anyway, 747 00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:38,774 but he had plenty of courage, you can see that. 748 00:54:38,905 --> 00:54:43,485 I mean, that church is burnt out but it's so dramatic. 749 00:54:43,619 --> 00:54:47,746 I wouldn't start to dare to compare myself to what Turner did, 750 00:54:48,123 --> 00:54:50,531 but I learnt a lot of lessons from Turner. 751 00:54:50,793 --> 00:54:53,747 You should go out and do something that's different and bold, 752 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,463 and that's the whole essence of photography, in a sense. 753 00:55:02,638 --> 00:55:06,507 We wanted an extreme long shot, with a wide-angle lens, 754 00:55:06,643 --> 00:55:09,313 of the duel in the snow, 755 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,149 and these two guys facing each other, long shot. 756 00:55:12,274 --> 00:55:15,228 But, of course, long shot, we saw the spot rails, 757 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,861 so I had this idea of putting a piece of glass in front of the camera, 758 00:55:19,073 --> 00:55:21,031 about six feet away. 759 00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:23,863 I painted the glass, in other words, the same colour. 760 00:55:24,077 --> 00:55:28,408 Then behind my shoulder I put a little lamp that shone into the glass 761 00:55:28,541 --> 00:55:30,450 Iike a reflection of the sun. 762 00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:34,294 But the first attempt I made, I was using the sprayer, 763 00:55:34,465 --> 00:55:36,753 and I overdid it, and the paint was running down the glass, 764 00:55:36,883 --> 00:55:39,968 and Dino de Laurentiis the producer came on the set and said, 765 00:55:40,304 --> 00:55:43,887 "Cardiff, what do you do? Wasting time! What do you do? " 766 00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:48,228 I said, "I'm painting the glass," and he said... 767 00:55:48,354 --> 00:55:50,311 He was furious and walked off the stage. 768 00:55:50,523 --> 00:55:55,482 But later, it was a very effective shot and he was showing it to everybody. 769 00:56:06,623 --> 00:56:10,538 (Voiceover) Of all the love stories France has given to the world, 770 00:56:10,628 --> 00:56:13,296 this is the one to live in your memory. 771 00:56:13,630 --> 00:56:16,383 (Cardiff) I had a call from New York from Josh Logan. 772 00:56:16,509 --> 00:56:20,423 He said, "Jack, I want you to photograph 'Fanny'."' 773 00:56:20,555 --> 00:56:22,133 I loved the film. 774 00:56:22,266 --> 00:56:25,468 It was great fun working with Maurice Chevalier and Leslie Caron. 775 00:56:43,496 --> 00:56:46,450 (Turner) One of the most beautifully photographed pictures 776 00:56:46,583 --> 00:56:49,075 of this whole canon 777 00:56:49,252 --> 00:56:51,826 would be "Pandora And The Flying Dutchman"... 778 00:56:51,963 --> 00:56:53,920 When do you want to marry me, Steve? 779 00:56:54,257 --> 00:56:57,627 ...which was produced and directed by Albert Lewin, 780 00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:01,089 who'd had a big success with "The Picture Of Dorian Gray". 781 00:57:01,265 --> 00:57:03,803 (Scorsese) "Pandora And The Flying Dutchman" was a unique film. 782 00:57:03,976 --> 00:57:06,432 It had fantasy and exotic locations. 783 00:57:06,562 --> 00:57:09,267 I am predisposed to that, mainly because of where I come from. 784 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,434 Neo-realism I had right around me. 785 00:57:11,610 --> 00:57:15,523 If I wanted to go to a movie, I wanted to see something more fantastical. 786 00:57:15,655 --> 00:57:20,483 (James Mason) With one bloody blow, I killed all that I loved on God's earth. 787 00:57:20,661 --> 00:57:23,531 (Music drowns speech) 788 00:57:24,707 --> 00:57:27,624 (Scorsese) It was so romantic, you know, it was so romantic. 789 00:57:27,751 --> 00:57:29,411 It took you to another world. 790 00:57:29,753 --> 00:57:31,462 There was something about the way it looked 791 00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:35,005 which put in my mind Powell and Pressburger. 792 00:57:35,135 --> 00:57:38,586 Faith is a lie and God himself is chaos! 793 00:57:38,847 --> 00:57:40,222 Silence! 794 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:44,719 It had the magical quality of Ava Gardner as almost a mystical figure, 795 00:57:44,854 --> 00:57:47,392 a mystical sexuality. 796 00:57:48,858 --> 00:57:50,268 Hello? 797 00:57:50,609 --> 00:57:54,393 (Cardiff) She said, "Jack, I'm pleased you're gonna photograph me, 798 00:57:54,530 --> 00:57:58,528 "but you have to watch when I have my periods, because I don't look so good."' 799 00:57:58,743 --> 00:58:02,528 I said, "I'll look after that."' That was the first thing she said to me. 800 00:58:02,748 --> 00:58:08,334 Al Lewin used to do take after take, not that he really wanted to do another take, 801 00:58:08,503 --> 00:58:13,546 but he just wanted to keep going so he could gaze into Ava's face. 802 00:58:13,676 --> 00:58:17,755 And in a way that's true. I've changed so since I've known you. 803 00:58:17,846 --> 00:58:20,967 (Cardiff) He said, "l want you to go to Wallace Heaton's in Bond Street 804 00:58:21,142 --> 00:58:23,384 "and buy yourself a 1 6mm camera."' 805 00:58:23,561 --> 00:58:28,223 Which I have here, and it's just about the cheapest one you can get. 806 00:58:28,399 --> 00:58:29,644 (Whirring) 807 00:58:29,817 --> 00:58:34,445 And I took it out to Africa on "African Queen". 808 00:58:34,615 --> 00:58:36,738 Well, I've taken it on many films. 809 00:58:45,542 --> 00:58:49,411 A little to starboard, Miss! No, no, the other way! 810 00:58:55,845 --> 00:58:59,464 (Cardiff) John Huston had the idea of doing the whole thing in Africa, 811 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,685 and he said it was going to be so easy. 812 00:59:02,812 --> 00:59:08,018 Huston went out there and said he didn't like that location, it was too pretty. 813 00:59:08,233 --> 00:59:11,151 He disappeared for a couple of weeks and we wondered what had happened, 814 00:59:11,362 --> 00:59:13,520 whether he'd been eaten by crocodiles, 815 00:59:13,698 --> 00:59:17,115 but he then sent a telegram saying he'd found the perfect place 816 00:59:17,243 --> 00:59:19,651 in the Belgian Congo. 817 00:59:19,745 --> 00:59:23,365 It was right in nowhere land. 818 00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:26,952 It was called Biondo, this place, and it was beyond anywhere. 819 00:59:27,087 --> 00:59:30,586 It was two days' Jeep ride from Stanleyville. 820 00:59:30,757 --> 00:59:33,165 He was not always thrilled with the choice of locations 821 00:59:33,343 --> 00:59:36,547 because if there was an impossible location to be found, 822 00:59:36,763 --> 00:59:39,172 John Huston was the man to find it. 823 00:59:39,350 --> 00:59:40,761 I was there for the whole shoot, 824 00:59:40,894 --> 00:59:45,556 and I think Jack had tremendous admiration for John. 825 00:59:45,690 --> 00:59:50,732 John always tried to get almost impossible shots, 826 00:59:50,820 --> 00:59:52,565 really difficult ones, 827 00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:54,945 and Jack always got what he wanted. 828 01:00:21,061 --> 01:00:24,512 (Kevin McClory) Huston was quite easy-going, in a way. 829 01:00:24,648 --> 01:00:31,646 But ever, beneath the casual kind of attitude, was the artist, 830 01:00:31,863 --> 01:00:33,940 was the perfectionist. 831 01:00:34,283 --> 01:00:37,984 He had the utmost regard for Jack, that I know, 832 01:00:38,162 --> 01:00:41,864 because they basically talked the same language. 833 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,794 (Cardiff) We were towing this raft, 834 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,001 and we had Katherine Hepburn's little place as a dressing room. 835 01:00:50,134 --> 01:00:52,707 I had a tiny generator for my two lamps. 836 01:00:52,970 --> 01:00:55,427 I only had two lamps on the picture. 837 01:00:55,557 --> 01:00:57,963 And one or two others, the sound department, had it. 838 01:00:58,309 --> 01:01:01,844 So it was a string of little boats being towed along. 839 01:01:01,938 --> 01:01:05,853 Of course, when we came to a corner, they were like a row of sausages, 840 01:01:06,067 --> 01:01:09,650 and they couldn't turn so we would crash into the bank. 841 01:01:09,821 --> 01:01:14,566 (McClory) You could find yourself with one leg, on "The African Queen", 842 01:01:14,701 --> 01:01:18,118 on the boat with Katie and Bogie sitting down there, 843 01:01:18,247 --> 01:01:20,287 and your other leg up on the bank of a river, 844 01:01:20,499 --> 01:01:23,703 holding a boom like that over them and liable to go in, 845 01:01:23,878 --> 01:01:28,172 and in those rivers were rather nasty creatures. 846 01:01:28,591 --> 01:01:32,886 (Cardiff) In Uganda on Lake Victoria, we were all sick, very, very sick. 847 01:01:32,971 --> 01:01:38,179 I mean all kinds of dysentery, all kinds of vomiting, everything. 848 01:01:38,435 --> 01:01:41,721 (Bacall) Sam Spiegel, our friend and our producer, came to the location. 849 01:01:41,855 --> 01:01:45,770 He was furious cos the movie had to shut down for three days. 850 01:01:45,984 --> 01:01:49,935 We got yet another doctor to look at it and he found exactly what was wrong, 851 01:01:50,115 --> 01:01:52,072 that the filter, the water filter... 852 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,569 We were on a houseboat, you see, and the filter wasn't there. 853 01:01:55,745 --> 01:02:01,202 So we were drinking just river water with the droppings of hippos and crocodiles. 854 01:02:01,459 --> 01:02:05,956 And the only two persons who weren't sick was Bogie and John Huston 855 01:02:06,132 --> 01:02:08,801 because they never touched water, they only drank whisky. 856 01:02:09,009 --> 01:02:12,959 - I could give you a hand. - Close your eyes, please, Mr Allnut. 857 01:02:15,182 --> 01:02:17,590 I'm all right. I'm all right. 858 01:02:17,727 --> 01:02:20,016 (Cardiff) Hepburn was an incredible lady. 859 01:02:20,147 --> 01:02:21,973 She was very strong-minded, 860 01:02:22,149 --> 01:02:26,396 and in some ways she didn't want to be regarded as a frail woman. 861 01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:32,027 She wanted to be tough and accepted as a woman of character and courage. 862 01:02:32,201 --> 01:02:35,735 She did go in the jungle and she was a very, very brave woman. 863 01:02:35,912 --> 01:02:38,450 Ain't no person in their right mind ain't scared of white water. 864 01:02:38,623 --> 01:02:42,836 I never dreamed that any mere physical experience could be so stimulating. 865 01:02:43,004 --> 01:02:44,000 How's that, Miss? 866 01:02:44,130 --> 01:02:48,294 (Cardiff) Bogie, of course, put on this big act that he was a tough guy. 867 01:02:48,509 --> 01:02:51,594 I mean, he told me at the beginning about makeup. 868 01:02:51,804 --> 01:02:53,715 He said, "Jack, see this face? 869 01:02:54,058 --> 01:02:57,509 "It's taken me many years to get all these lines and crinkles in it. 870 01:02:57,686 --> 01:03:01,731 "That's the way I want it. Don't light me up and make me look like a goddam fag. 871 01:03:01,899 --> 01:03:04,853 "l want to look like this."' So I did it. 872 01:03:04,985 --> 01:03:08,901 (Bacall) Bogie was not an actor who cared much about the way he looked. 873 01:03:09,032 --> 01:03:12,032 But he appreciated good photography. 874 01:03:12,117 --> 01:03:17,658 And he loved effective photography that worked for the story. 875 01:03:17,916 --> 01:03:22,579 (Bogart's character) I wrote and directed ll three of the movies Maria was in, 876 01:03:22,713 --> 01:03:25,749 her short, full career from start to finish. 877 01:03:25,882 --> 01:03:28,635 (Scorsese) It was a frightening film for a young person to see. 878 01:03:28,761 --> 01:03:32,212 I'll never forget the opening scenes in the graveyard in the rain. 879 01:03:32,515 --> 01:03:34,840 And his colour, his use of colour, 880 01:03:35,018 --> 01:03:37,971 particularly when they're in Monte Carlo or on the yacht. 881 01:03:38,104 --> 01:03:41,473 She unveils, in a sense, and Edmond O'Brien, all the guys, just look at her. 882 01:03:41,732 --> 01:03:43,809 It's an extraordinary picture. 883 01:03:44,153 --> 01:03:47,272 (Voiceover) The world's number-one symbol of desirability 884 01:03:47,447 --> 01:03:50,781 on display all over the world's number-one showroom 885 01:03:50,909 --> 01:03:53,946 with the world's number-one customers wanting to buy, 886 01:03:54,121 --> 01:03:57,039 and nobody wrapped her up and took her home. 887 01:03:57,208 --> 01:04:00,458 (Cardiff) Oh, she was gorgeous, of course. She was so good-looking. 888 01:04:00,795 --> 01:04:05,089 I was on location with that one as well, and that... 889 01:04:05,258 --> 01:04:09,042 Yeah, but I think that Ava Gardner was certainly not hard to photograph. 890 01:04:09,179 --> 01:04:14,600 I mean, Bogie may have been, but Ava was such a great beauty. 891 01:04:14,768 --> 01:04:21,981 (Cardiff) The first time I met her, she was very happy with Frank Sinatra. 892 01:04:22,109 --> 01:04:25,858 The next time I worked with her, she was leaving Frank. 893 01:04:26,030 --> 01:04:31,191 Something had gone wrong and she was taking Soneryl to sleep 894 01:04:31,411 --> 01:04:34,780 and that made her a bit sleepy, the eyes had to be looked after, 895 01:04:34,915 --> 01:04:36,788 so I was lighting her more carefully. 896 01:04:36,958 --> 01:04:42,748 And it is a fact, they rely on the cameramen very much. 897 01:04:42,923 --> 01:04:46,708 I think I am pretty enough, but I would not want to be that kind of star. 898 01:04:46,844 --> 01:04:51,137 Pretty enough? Any woman that can use the moon for a key light... 899 01:04:51,390 --> 01:04:54,060 Key light? What is that? 900 01:04:54,185 --> 01:04:56,142 That's your light when the stage is all lit up, 901 01:04:56,312 --> 01:04:58,519 the light that shines only on you. 902 01:04:58,773 --> 01:05:02,357 You took a lot ofiportraits ofiactresses, didn'tyou, over the years? 903 01:05:02,486 --> 01:05:04,810 - Yes, I had... - Could we have a look at those? 904 01:05:04,946 --> 01:05:08,647 I used to take them usually in the lunch hour. 905 01:05:08,826 --> 01:05:13,240 And, um...I only had time to do a few. 906 01:05:20,338 --> 01:05:24,917 Audrey Hepburn was one I did on "War And Peace". 907 01:05:28,013 --> 01:05:34,134 That's a typical type of lighting, of light, dark, light, dark, you see. 908 01:05:34,312 --> 01:05:36,435 Dark, light, dark, light. 909 01:05:36,814 --> 01:05:40,147 - What's the name ofithat again? - Chiaroscuro. 910 01:05:55,167 --> 01:05:57,041 Pierre. 911 01:06:10,850 --> 01:06:14,800 (Cardiff) I tried to photograph them as many times as possible 912 01:06:14,979 --> 01:06:20,140 to get used to their face and study any kind of flaws and things. 913 01:06:20,485 --> 01:06:23,570 Janet Leigh? That was on "The Vikings". 914 01:06:24,365 --> 01:06:28,908 And then we have Anita Ekberg, who had a lovely face. 915 01:06:29,577 --> 01:06:32,248 And that was on "War And Peace". 916 01:06:40,340 --> 01:06:44,172 They all had different qualities. I mean, Loren had the most gorgeous eyes. 917 01:06:44,511 --> 01:06:46,302 Very expressive eyes. 918 01:06:47,389 --> 01:06:52,384 Audrey Hepburn had these very thick eyebrows, which was... 919 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,517 She made a fashion out of that, and she made a fashion out of many things. 920 01:06:59,235 --> 01:07:01,441 That's Sophia Loren, 921 01:07:02,697 --> 01:07:04,239 with a big hat. 922 01:07:04,365 --> 01:07:08,908 This is when I became like an amateur enthusiast who takes pictures. 923 01:07:09,037 --> 01:07:12,323 Why does he take them? He likes to take pictures, you know. 924 01:07:12,666 --> 01:07:14,789 And these women were beautiful women. 925 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,000 And, you know, like you collect stamps, 926 01:07:17,129 --> 01:07:21,341 I collected beautiful women, photographically, of course. 927 01:07:21,592 --> 01:07:24,047 Marilyn was always sort of perfectly made up 928 01:07:24,219 --> 01:07:27,969 and she had a face which was virtually perfect. 929 01:07:28,266 --> 01:07:33,093 She had a slightly tipped-up nose, which was very attractive. 930 01:07:33,313 --> 01:07:36,563 She specifiically asked fioryou once. What was that? 931 01:07:36,733 --> 01:07:40,269 Well, that was because I was in vogue. 932 01:07:40,446 --> 01:07:43,281 It's almost like footballers that are getting around. 933 01:07:43,406 --> 01:07:47,488 They want a certain footballer to be in a certain position 934 01:07:47,620 --> 01:07:50,870 and they find out that that's the best man, they get them. 935 01:07:51,123 --> 01:07:54,659 I don't know. And she asked for me, and I was very flattered. 936 01:07:54,878 --> 01:07:56,537 You have pretty eyebrows. 937 01:07:56,712 --> 01:08:00,876 Love. What a universe of joy and pain lies in that little word. 938 01:08:05,347 --> 01:08:08,550 Larry was...he was supposed to be in that position. 939 01:08:08,684 --> 01:08:11,471 But he wanted to look through the camera to see what the shot was. 940 01:08:11,603 --> 01:08:14,390 - He was directing. - He wanted to see what the shot was. 941 01:08:14,523 --> 01:08:19,565 So I took his position and Marilyn put her arms round me like that, 942 01:08:19,696 --> 01:08:23,195 and later on she wrote, "Jack, I'll tell you what we'll do," 943 01:08:23,283 --> 01:08:27,067 and Arthur Miller, the husband, said, "Oh, no, you don't," so that was that. 944 01:08:27,203 --> 01:08:30,241 - What were you gonna do? - I don't know. 945 01:08:30,458 --> 01:08:32,664 It was a tough job for him because she was... 946 01:08:33,042 --> 01:08:36,662 I think she was a darling girl in many instances, 947 01:08:36,839 --> 01:08:39,295 but she...she had a lot of problems... 948 01:08:39,425 --> 01:08:41,797 - Do you reverse? - Just try me! 949 01:08:42,052 --> 01:08:47,509 She would come on the set very late, and it was a tough picture to do. 950 01:08:51,730 --> 01:08:54,268 (Voiceover) Between Marilyn and Olivier, who also directed, 951 01:08:54,358 --> 01:08:56,646 there were occasional reports of strain. 952 01:08:57,736 --> 01:08:59,978 (Cardiff) We had a wonderful make-up man, Whitey, 953 01:09:00,155 --> 01:09:02,397 who was with her for years. 954 01:09:02,574 --> 01:09:05,327 When she died, there was an urgent call to New York, 955 01:09:05,453 --> 01:09:08,739 for he was in New York at the time, and he had to fly back, 956 01:09:08,915 --> 01:09:12,782 because it was in the contract he had to make her up when she was dead. 957 01:09:13,002 --> 01:09:17,415 The idea of making up this gorgeous creature when she was dead, 958 01:09:17,548 --> 01:09:21,084 and putting on the lipstick and the usual thing, it was a tough break. 959 01:09:21,220 --> 01:09:25,348 He told me he had to have a couple of stiff drinks before he started. 960 01:09:31,647 --> 01:09:35,063 Some weeks ago, I had a celebration party, 961 01:09:35,192 --> 01:09:38,027 celebrating my 80 years in the cinema. 962 01:09:39,029 --> 01:09:42,530 No matter how good the cameraman is, or thinks he is, 963 01:09:42,867 --> 01:09:47,613 he's got to serve the director, that's absolutely important. 964 01:09:47,747 --> 01:09:52,742 The director has to be the one who has the responsibility for the final film. 965 01:09:52,919 --> 01:09:56,965 (Speaks French) 966 01:09:57,091 --> 01:10:01,919 (Fleischer) It became apparent when we were doing "The Vikings" 967 01:10:02,096 --> 01:10:07,091 that Jack really was very interested in the actors 968 01:10:07,269 --> 01:10:09,558 and in the direction of the picture. 969 01:10:09,813 --> 01:10:15,437 Jack had every potential of being an excellent director, 970 01:10:15,611 --> 01:10:17,650 and we discussed that, 971 01:10:17,863 --> 01:10:24,233 and as a matter of fact, I let him direct one short scene in "The Vikings", 972 01:10:24,536 --> 01:10:29,033 just to see how he handled it, 973 01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:32,245 and how he felt directing a film. 974 01:10:32,420 --> 01:10:35,375 (Cardiff) I worked on a couple of B pictures, 975 01:10:35,549 --> 01:10:38,585 and the first one, the critics said, in effect, 976 01:10:38,843 --> 01:10:42,509 why on earth did I want to be a mediocre director 977 01:10:42,681 --> 01:10:44,674 when I'd been on top as a cameraman. 978 01:10:44,850 --> 01:10:49,013 And they suggested that I went back to photography as soon as I could. 979 01:10:49,187 --> 01:10:52,224 Anyway, soon after that I got the big break on "Sons & Lovers". 980 01:10:52,441 --> 01:10:54,268 (Rumbling) 981 01:11:00,866 --> 01:11:02,740 What is it? 982 01:11:04,871 --> 01:11:06,829 It's the mine. 983 01:11:13,296 --> 01:11:17,295 I thought "Sons & Lovers" did a marvellous job. 984 01:11:17,427 --> 01:11:22,385 Some of them don't make the transition very well, do they? But he did. 985 01:11:22,598 --> 01:11:26,382 (Voiceover) Local people, many of them from mining families, became actors, 986 01:11:26,561 --> 01:11:29,396 to help recreate a mining disaster. 987 01:11:29,522 --> 01:11:31,182 Jack Cardiff was the director. 988 01:11:31,358 --> 01:11:35,486 (Yates) I do think that cinematographers are inclined to be suspected 989 01:11:35,613 --> 01:11:38,613 of concentrating on the look of the picture, 990 01:11:38,741 --> 01:11:41,362 which I don't think Jack did, 991 01:11:41,660 --> 01:11:44,282 and I think that he was very clever 992 01:11:44,455 --> 01:11:47,410 to want to work with Freddie Francis, 993 01:11:47,542 --> 01:11:53,165 who was a very established cameraman at that time. 994 01:11:53,298 --> 01:11:56,916 I'd just done a film for Jack Clayton, called "Room At The Top", 995 01:11:57,218 --> 01:12:02,640 and I guess Jack liked the look of that and decided he'd like me to do his film. 996 01:12:02,849 --> 01:12:06,099 Either that, or he thought I was cheap. I can't remember. 997 01:12:06,312 --> 01:12:10,392 (Cardiff) I would never go to Freddie and say, "ls the back light a bit hot? " 998 01:12:10,608 --> 01:12:12,517 Whatever. I would never say anything. 999 01:12:13,570 --> 01:12:17,733 (Christie) It's a beautifully lit and beautifully directed black-and-white film. 1000 01:12:17,865 --> 01:12:19,443 It's one of the classics 1001 01:12:19,575 --> 01:12:23,621 of British black-and-white cinematography of the postwar period. 1002 01:12:26,166 --> 01:12:28,040 Forgive me. 1003 01:12:28,210 --> 01:12:31,709 Forgive you? I love you. 1004 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,586 I always thought, being a southerner, 1005 01:12:34,801 --> 01:12:39,297 I always thought that going up north, it was dreary and dark like that, 1006 01:12:39,472 --> 01:12:41,714 so I was quite happy to shoot it that way. 1007 01:12:44,644 --> 01:12:46,969 (Voiceover) Action, and the local actors jump to it, 1008 01:12:47,147 --> 01:12:51,097 producing a scene which will be one of the highlights of the film. 1009 01:13:03,457 --> 01:13:06,077 You fioundyourselfi nominatedfiorbest direction 1010 01:13:06,250 --> 01:13:07,792 at the American Academy A wards, 1011 01:13:07,918 --> 01:13:11,039 alongside Alfired Hitchcock. who'd done "Psycho "that year. 1012 01:13:11,381 --> 01:13:14,418 - I 'd worked with him, as you know. - And he'd seen "Sons & Lovers ". 1013 01:13:14,593 --> 01:13:16,302 He said, "I've seen 'Sons & Lovers'."' 1014 01:13:16,595 --> 01:13:19,382 He said, "lt was bloody good."' 1015 01:13:19,723 --> 01:13:24,516 He looked at me as much to say, "How could you make such a good film? " 1016 01:13:24,604 --> 01:13:27,225 Because to him, I was a cameraman, you know. 1017 01:13:27,357 --> 01:13:29,063 Mother! We're here! 1018 01:13:29,775 --> 01:13:33,560 - Hey! - Come on, Paul! 1019 01:13:33,696 --> 01:13:36,021 - Go on. - Quickly, quickly. 1020 01:13:36,366 --> 01:13:38,988 They'll be waiting to see us. 1021 01:13:39,286 --> 01:13:43,746 (Cardiff) It had a tremendous reception and I felt this was really something, 1022 01:13:43,915 --> 01:13:47,367 that the lights were coming on and everyone was applauding. 1023 01:13:47,586 --> 01:13:54,205 And Buddy Adler, who was the chief of 20th Century Fox, whispered in my ear, 1024 01:13:54,385 --> 01:13:58,549 "Jack, you must enjoy every moment of this. It may never happen to you again."' 1025 01:13:58,682 --> 01:14:01,885 In fact it never happened quite as good as that. 1026 01:14:03,186 --> 01:14:05,060 Didyou see "Sons & Lovers"? 1027 01:14:05,272 --> 01:14:09,352 Of course. That's a beautiful film. I have a print of it, a Scope print of it. 1028 01:14:09,484 --> 01:14:13,483 And I liked...I liked "Sons & Lovers". 1029 01:14:13,614 --> 01:14:17,659 "Young Cassidy" I like a great deal. I have a print of that also. 1030 01:14:17,869 --> 01:14:20,276 (Shouting) 1031 01:14:21,539 --> 01:14:24,575 (Horse whinnying) 1032 01:14:27,337 --> 01:14:31,286 - We'll win freedom yet, you bastards! - Shut up and get back! 1033 01:14:53,156 --> 01:14:54,817 2 take 3. 1034 01:14:55,034 --> 01:14:59,244 Was it hardfioryou to go back to cinematography after "Sons & Lovers "? 1035 01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:01,406 Not really. I've always loved photography anyway. 1036 01:15:01,582 --> 01:15:06,161 And that was the time after that, some years after that, that... 1037 01:15:06,378 --> 01:15:08,537 I made about a dozen films in all, 1038 01:15:08,672 --> 01:15:11,673 and then the film business in England, as you know, more or less collapsed. 1039 01:15:11,801 --> 01:15:14,042 There was no work at all. 1040 01:15:16,056 --> 01:15:24,146 (Fleisher) I think it was...must have been a very wrenching, angst-ridden decision, 1041 01:15:24,314 --> 01:15:31,029 and I really felt for him when he had to do it, in one way. 1042 01:15:31,197 --> 01:15:33,901 In the other way, I was happy because I grabbed him immediately 1043 01:15:34,241 --> 01:15:40,861 to be the cinematographer on the next picture that I made. 1044 01:15:40,999 --> 01:15:43,835 Your Majesty, I'm not the Prince of Wales. 1045 01:15:44,003 --> 01:15:45,828 (Laughing) 1046 01:15:59,268 --> 01:16:03,930 There are good cameramen and fast cameramen. 1047 01:16:04,106 --> 01:16:07,606 There are very few good and fast, and Jack was one of them. 1048 01:16:07,777 --> 01:16:11,822 That one's "The Red Shoes" andthat's "Rambo", 1049 01:16:11,907 --> 01:16:14,195 and I think mostpeople are very surprised 1050 01:16:14,367 --> 01:16:19,326 that a CV could incorporate "The Red Shoes "in the late '40s 1051 01:16:19,498 --> 01:16:20,827 and "Rambo "in the '80s. 1052 01:16:21,167 --> 01:16:22,874 I had fun on the " Rambo" picture. 1053 01:16:24,586 --> 01:16:26,829 (Groaning) 1054 01:16:26,964 --> 01:16:29,123 (Coughs) 1055 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,967 I see you are not a stranger to pain. 1056 01:16:34,805 --> 01:16:37,475 Perhaps you have been among my Vietnamese comrades before. 1057 01:16:37,683 --> 01:16:39,594 (Cardiff) A totally different ball game then, 1058 01:16:39,895 --> 01:16:45,186 because, with Sylvester Stallone, he was very masculine, very tough, 1059 01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:48,644 and the film that I made with him was a toughie. 1060 01:16:48,820 --> 01:16:53,198 I couldn't try any beautiful composition or anything. Everything was tough. 1061 01:16:53,576 --> 01:16:54,987 But it was successful. 1062 01:16:58,914 --> 01:17:00,194 Hurgh! 1063 01:17:03,253 --> 01:17:05,411 (Fleischer) Jack was the same 1064 01:17:05,672 --> 01:17:11,876 dedicated, brilliant creator that he always was. 1065 01:17:12,011 --> 01:17:14,004 He didn't change in all that time, 1066 01:17:14,347 --> 01:17:16,886 and he put the same amount of enthusiasm 1067 01:17:17,101 --> 01:17:19,224 and extreme professionalism 1068 01:17:19,603 --> 01:17:24,396 into the last film he made as he did in the very first. 1069 01:17:24,650 --> 01:17:28,980 The only other cameraman I worked with who was that fast and that good 1070 01:17:29,156 --> 01:17:31,148 is Sven Nykvist. 1071 01:17:31,324 --> 01:17:34,528 Sven is lightning-fast and so is Jack. 1072 01:17:43,588 --> 01:17:47,965 He had this box of filters and he always carried it with him. 1073 01:17:48,134 --> 01:17:51,088 We were up in North Mexico, in the desert, 1074 01:17:51,262 --> 01:17:55,342 and the sky was really bad, it was like all grey, and there was nothing there, 1075 01:17:55,516 --> 01:18:00,263 so he pulled out a little thing and started painting, and he put it in the camera, 1076 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:05,480 and all of a sudden instead of being a grey sky, he made it magical, you know? 1077 01:18:05,653 --> 01:18:06,933 He's just a genius. 1078 01:18:07,237 --> 01:18:09,064 (Music playing) 1079 01:18:18,250 --> 01:18:20,326 (Cardiff) Today there's a big difference. 1080 01:18:20,585 --> 01:18:25,377 The days when I was working on "Red Shoes", with all these effects, 1081 01:18:25,548 --> 01:18:28,004 and any film which had a lot of effects, 1082 01:18:28,134 --> 01:18:30,590 I wanted very much to do it myself, 1083 01:18:30,762 --> 01:18:34,049 even if it meant, like I said before, breathing on a lens to have a fade-in 1084 01:18:34,183 --> 01:18:35,975 through mist or whatever. 1085 01:18:36,143 --> 01:18:41,268 But nowadays anything that comes up, like a shot, is going to be made, 1086 01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:43,724 which is really fantastic, 1087 01:18:44,068 --> 01:18:47,105 they say, "Jack, don't worry about that, special effects will do that."' 1088 01:18:47,239 --> 01:18:50,322 So I've always felt a bit left... Ieft in the lurch. 1089 01:18:50,533 --> 01:18:57,153 Digital imagery looks real, but it lacks an authenticity, 1090 01:18:57,291 --> 01:19:01,835 it lacks the used feeling in a way, it lacks the feeling that you're really there. 1091 01:19:02,005 --> 01:19:04,329 (Voiceover) Andthen the attack. 1092 01:19:04,548 --> 01:19:07,466 (Scorsese) But what I'm saying now won't matter at all, 1093 01:19:07,635 --> 01:19:11,550 because, er...it's already gone, it's all finished. 1094 01:19:11,764 --> 01:19:13,972 (Voiceover) Today this scene you see being fiilmed 1095 01:19:14,143 --> 01:19:16,847 has been processed in Technicolor. 1096 01:19:27,531 --> 01:19:31,695 (Fleischer) And cinematography is definitely an art form, 1097 01:19:32,036 --> 01:19:37,577 and it is, I think, the main art of the 20th century. 1098 01:19:37,709 --> 01:19:39,748 There's no question that it is, 1099 01:19:39,919 --> 01:19:44,498 because it involves every element of art plus one, which is movement. 1100 01:19:49,263 --> 01:19:52,098 (Scorsese) I would like to think it's an art form, 1101 01:19:52,265 --> 01:19:56,596 but there's always the stigma of cinema because it's populist, 1102 01:19:58,356 --> 01:20:00,265 but those who are, you know, 1103 01:20:00,441 --> 01:20:03,811 wonderful literary figures, critics et cetera, intellectuals, 1104 01:20:03,986 --> 01:20:08,732 will feel that cinema is a popular form, therefore it's not really art. 1105 01:20:11,829 --> 01:20:21,035 When I see him, I see the young eyes of a child peering. 1106 01:20:21,171 --> 01:20:26,926 It reminds me of the eyes of Chagall the painter, 1107 01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:30,838 very inquisitive. 1108 01:20:31,016 --> 01:20:34,930 (Scorsese) How do you get...almost like a spiritual image in your mind 1109 01:20:35,061 --> 01:20:36,853 and try to make that concrete? 1110 01:20:37,022 --> 01:20:39,858 An idea that hits you here, an image that hits you here, 1111 01:20:40,026 --> 01:20:43,892 and then you have to translate it through this piece of equipment. 1112 01:20:49,911 --> 01:20:54,952 (Cardiff) Some people, in an effort to be kind and complimentary, say, "Ah, Jack, 1113 01:20:55,082 --> 01:20:58,000 "they don't make films like those old Technicolor films."' 1114 01:20:58,127 --> 01:21:00,251 But that's all nonsense. 1115 01:21:00,589 --> 01:21:06,508 To me, the standard of photography has improved, you know, enormously. 1116 01:21:06,845 --> 01:21:09,882 Go on, keep going, keep going. 1117 01:21:10,057 --> 01:21:12,809 OK, quiet, please, everyone. 1118 01:21:13,061 --> 01:21:14,888 See what I'm going for? 1119 01:21:15,230 --> 01:21:20,105 - Why don'tyou want to retire? - No...I think I'd hate the idea. 1120 01:21:20,443 --> 01:21:22,436 I've got a big horizon. 1121 01:21:22,612 --> 01:21:25,185 There's painting in between, which is nice to do. 1122 01:21:25,323 --> 01:21:29,274 And hopefully, one of these days, 1123 01:21:29,453 --> 01:21:32,157 I'll just drop dead on the film set. 1124 01:21:38,170 --> 01:21:39,962 (Audience applauding) 1125 01:21:40,297 --> 01:21:41,709 (Hoffman) This is the first time 1126 01:21:41,842 --> 01:21:46,419 an honorary Oscar has been given to a cinematographer. 1127 01:21:48,265 --> 01:21:52,393 Ladies and gentlemen, it is my special privilege to present to you 1128 01:21:52,519 --> 01:21:54,892 Mr Jack Cardiff. 1129 01:21:55,814 --> 01:21:57,890 (Orchestral intro) 1130 01:22:13,541 --> 01:22:15,332 Thank you. 102405

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