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♪
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Lincoln:
Rick and Michonne are perfect
partners in an imperfect world.
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Gurira: They first met
as reluctant allies,
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but over time,
their bond grew.
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Through so many hardships,
so much loss and sacrifice,
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they found each other.
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Until one day
when it all got taken away.
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Michonne was fearful that
she may have lost Rick forever.
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And Rick never stopped
thinking about his family
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and never stopped trying
to get back to them.
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But when Michonne made
a fateful discovery,
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she knew
she had to find him.
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She had to
make her family whole.
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♪
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So how weird is this...
after all this time?
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Yes,
and finishing telling the story
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of Rick and Michonne, to be here
where it all started.
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♪
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The only thing
to really do
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is to start
at the very beginning,
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'cause it's a very good place
to start.
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[Herd growling]
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♪
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♪
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This is approximately where
Rick and Michonne first met.
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Yeah.
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How did you feel
that day?
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What do you mean,
how do I feel?
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How did you?
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What?
Meeting you, or...
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Yeah.
Do you remember it?
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I think... I do remember.
Of course I remember it.
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'Cause I think
he was going through
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quite a defensive phase
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where he was very distrustful,
and seeing somebody
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with a katana
and two zombies with their...
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Okay, you don't--
you don't remember.
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Oh.
I have no idea.
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I'm leaving, guys.
Yeah.
[Laughter]
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Going down memory lane
with someone with no memories.
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W-- but...
How do I do this?
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Did I...
Come on.
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Okay, so to help
my colleague out here.
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Listen,
don't tell them the st--
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How I came
to the gate was--
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I didn't have-- I didn't
have the two zombies.
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I was covered in zombie gunk.
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Okay, so you didn't have the two
people on the chains?
No.
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They were long gone.
I got rid of them long
before I met you.
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Oh, my God.
There were a lot of walkers
clinging onto this fence.
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Yeah.
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And you're
standing there and--
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And Carl's there as well.
Should we help her?
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[Herd growling]
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'Cause he was the one that
convinced me to go and get you.
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And that's when Carl says,
"We have to--"
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Says, "We got to--"
Yeah, that's right.
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And pushes for her
to be saved.
No, I do remember that.
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Guys, everybody calm down.
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[Gunshots]
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Carl.
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That was a memorable way
for the characters to meet.
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It was a great way, yeah.
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And also because they're
so similar in temperament
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and personality,
there's a kind of--
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they're alpha, they're
independent, they're stubborn.
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It wasn't easy for them
when they started.
Yeah.
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It was such
a counter experience
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for Michonne
from the Governor.
Yeah.
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'Cause the Governor,
he was trying to charm her
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and sort of woo her
into his little--
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Yeah, and she was like,
"Mnh-mnh."
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And she does have respect
for Rick
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even before she meets him,
because of Andrea.
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And so she knows it's time
to not be a loner anymore.
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But the Governor was trying
to treat her all good
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and she's, like,
flipping swords in them
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and killing
his zombie daughter.
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[Growls]
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But when she comes here,
Rick is hostile,
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but Michonne trusts that.
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She trusts that, considering
the world they're in,
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considering the man
she knows he is,
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considering
who he's protecting.
Yeah.
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And she has a lot of grace
for Rick from the jump.
Yeah, yeah.
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So when you joined, Danai,
we were in season three.
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What did you feel
joining this cast?
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Were we
a welcoming cast?
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Yeah,
everyone was amazing.
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I remember I became immediately
very close to Lauren
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and of course to
the awesome Steven Yeun
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and of course
to Laurie Holden.
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You did
a lot of stuff--
And you were okay.
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You were all right.
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You were nice--
you were nice enough.
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You know?
It was like, "Okay."
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Yeah.
No, I'm kidding.
You were very sweet.
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Apart from
when I dropped you.
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Well, yeah.
I mean, that was a funny day.
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You want to tell it?
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No, you tell it 'cause it's
always gonna end up going there.
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If you tell it, then, you know,
it'll-- it'll lighten it up.
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Okay, so we had a policy.
In the sense that
you lighten up for you.
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We had a policy
when we were filming
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that we didn't
throw marks down.
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The crew were absolutely
the heart and soul
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of "The Walking Dead."
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And we had this environment
where everybody kept acting
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at all times,
and we didn't call "cut."
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What does this have to do...
I'm getting there.
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[Laughs]
This is-- This is basically
protecting myself.
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The scene goes where--
I see you drop.
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I'm like, "I don't think
she should come in here.
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She's got a katana.
She's dangerous. We need to--"
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And Carl's going, "Get out.
We have to save her."
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So eventually I do.
I concede we're gonna do that.
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And it was supposed to cut
when I pull you onto my back.
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And I didn't do that.
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And so I picked you up,
got about three steps,
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dropped you...
And fell.
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...and then decided
to fall on top of you as well,
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which wasn't
the ideal welcome.
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I'm like,
"What is this dude doing?
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You're not supposed to
do this."
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I'm just lying there. I'm dead.
I'm like, "I'm out. I can't..."
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[Laughs]
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I remember Lennie James.
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We were on the porch
in Alexandria at one time
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and we watched you, and you had
your dreads and your katana,
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and you were just sort of
walking down the main street.
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And he went, "Look at that."
And I went, "I know."
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And he went,
"That's the coolest character."
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We'd never seen anything
quite like it.
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It's so deeply, profoundly,
apocalyptically cool.
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You know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
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[Walkers growling]
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♪
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I think we were just always
a bit jealous.
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That's probably
why I dropped you.
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Ha ha ha ha ha.
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Speaking of jealous
of great, cool characters,
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your son,
Chandler Riggs.
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Yeah.
Extraordinary young man.
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Yeah. We just struck gold
with that kid.
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It's an extraordinary bond
to see somebody grow up
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in front of your eyes
on screen
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and spend so much time
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with this incredibly impressive
young man.
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It's not the truth, but I spent
more time with Chandler Riggs
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than my own son
for a lot of that decade.
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That's not the truth,
but it felt like that some days.
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And you never know what you're
gonna get with young actors
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and what they're
gonna turn into.
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But I think he's
a brilliant young man, you know,
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and a very,
very impressive actor.
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And I always sign off "DTVS"--
"Deceased TV Son"--
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is my sign-off
with Chandler Riggs.
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You know what I mean?
It's a bit weird, but...
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Yeah, a little.
...that's the way
we roll here.
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I couldn't speak
more highly of him.
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He's so incredible and really
was that warm, welcoming heart
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that was at the heart
of this show.
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It was exactly what he did
for Michonne
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was kind of
what I felt he was towards me.
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We just really clicked
and got along.
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I loved my scenes
with him so much.
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I-I just thought
Judith should--
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should know what her mom
looked like.
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It was really with Carl
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and the idea of this young man
growing up in this world
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that really warmed her heart
and of course
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aligned her with you
very deeply
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to want to keep--
preserve him and save his life.
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Well, we sort of
had this family, didn't we?
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It sort of established--
before we even fell in love.
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What are you doing?
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Winning a bet.
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In your dreams.
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I'm still on.
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[Grunts]
[Laughs]
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You spoke too soon,
wise guy.
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This might go on a while.
Maybe we can speed this up.
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Yeah, you're right.
Shouldn't be fooling around.
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We should probably--
Carl!
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♪
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♪
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Lincoln:
This is the one.
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'Cause I know
from all the scars.
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Yeah.
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It's so cool.
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♪
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I remember doing an interview
with a magazine
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and they challenged me
to a firing range,
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and it's actually really
well balanced, this thing.
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And I did quite-- I don't want
to big myself up or anything,
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but I got quite a lot.
But you will.
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But I will right now
big myself up.
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I got quite a lot of bull's-eyes
with-- with real things
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in Atlanta.
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We went to
a shooting alley.
Well...
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He's the only one
who remembers this, so...
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Bit more coordinated than--
than you were...
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Just take his word for it.
...hitting me on the head.
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Just...
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Why is there a rock here
that says "Andy's rock"?
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That's because I had a limp
for a while
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and I liked that rock
in my boot.
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And I get a little bit OCD
about things.
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No!
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And this was the one
that I had to have.
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So...
You?
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Yeah, and so I would
put that in my boot
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because we didn't
want to fake it.
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I mean, it's absurd,
but, yeah, that's what we did.
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So that's why I was
hobbling around
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with that rock
in my boot.
Wow.
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And we got it from
outside the prison, actually.
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Wow.
Yeah.
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I have to say, I am very moved
by good prop making and design.
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It really helps,
doesn't it?
Yeah. It does.
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And we were so fortunate
in the show
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to have such an incredible
design team in all areas.
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And also, of course,
Greg and KNB.
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And it's just-- I mean,
we were so fortunate.
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We would walk into environments.
They weren't, sort of, sets.
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No.
It was an environment.
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So, Danai, apart from you
stealing your katana...
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Does that make sense?
Me stealing my katana.
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Just break down that sentence
for a second, everybody.
Just...
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Apart from stealing
your katana...
Does that make sense?
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...was that the one that--
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wasn't in the Smithsonian
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but it found its way
into your apartment in New York.
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Don't tell people
where it is!
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[Laughs]
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Apart from the katana...
It's, um...
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Apart from the katana
that you decided to pilfer...
I took it to...
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...are there any other props
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that you would have liked
to have held on to?
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Listen...
[Laughs]
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Don't be mad
'cause you don't have a katana.
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Yeah, I am jealous.
I know.
243
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It's like Norman used to end
each season on a motorbike.
244
00:10:38,739 --> 00:10:40,120
Norman took--
he took every crossbow.
245
00:10:40,220 --> 00:10:41,841
He took one home
at the end of every season.
246
00:10:41,941 --> 00:10:44,763
Every season.
In full costume.
247
00:10:44,863 --> 00:10:46,644
Yeah.
With a crossbow.
Driving home.
248
00:10:46,744 --> 00:10:49,006
Just going, "Thank you
for another good season."
249
00:10:49,106 --> 00:10:52,008
Yeah.
On a bike that was
probably designed by him.
250
00:10:52,108 --> 00:10:54,089
I had to wait nine years
to get my katana.
251
00:10:54,189 --> 00:10:56,611
[Laughs]
Um, so, yeah.
252
00:10:56,711 --> 00:11:00,133
Is there another prop or thing
I would like to have kept?
253
00:11:00,233 --> 00:11:01,894
Maybe the Governor's
eyeball.
254
00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:03,456
Ohh!
That's cool.
255
00:11:03,556 --> 00:11:04,896
[Grunting]
256
00:11:04,996 --> 00:11:06,998
[Screaming]
257
00:11:11,641 --> 00:11:13,022
I don't know
if we really got it.
258
00:11:13,122 --> 00:11:14,543
She just put it in,
but I don't think
259
00:11:14,643 --> 00:11:16,104
she yanked it out,
you know?
260
00:11:16,204 --> 00:11:19,626
But I think we should have
a thing of the eyeball
261
00:11:19,726 --> 00:11:21,307
with that piece of glass
stuck in it.
262
00:11:21,407 --> 00:11:23,109
That would be amazing.
Yeah, I want that.
263
00:11:23,209 --> 00:11:24,990
Speaking of that, I'll never
forget Dave Morrissey,
264
00:11:25,090 --> 00:11:26,511
who played the Governor...
Yes.
265
00:11:26,611 --> 00:11:29,073
...attacking in such
a badass way
266
00:11:29,173 --> 00:11:30,393
out on that field.
267
00:11:30,493 --> 00:11:32,115
Go ahead!
268
00:11:32,215 --> 00:11:34,836
Screaming, all the rest of it,
and shooting at us
269
00:11:34,936 --> 00:11:37,378
when the war
was kicking off.
270
00:11:39,579 --> 00:11:42,081
And then
he got into his car
271
00:11:42,181 --> 00:11:43,882
and he had, obviously,
the patch on
272
00:11:43,982 --> 00:11:46,364
and he started driving, and he
just lifted his patch up...
273
00:11:46,464 --> 00:11:47,485
[Both laugh]
274
00:11:47,585 --> 00:11:49,086
...'cause he couldn't--
275
00:11:49,186 --> 00:11:51,688
'cause he couldn't drive
with one eye.
276
00:11:51,788 --> 00:11:52,768
He was terrified.
277
00:11:52,868 --> 00:11:55,050
I just remember going,
"Um...
278
00:11:55,150 --> 00:11:56,571
That's not that bada--"
279
00:11:56,671 --> 00:11:58,412
They can cut around it.
They can cut around it.
280
00:11:58,512 --> 00:12:00,493
All right, okay.
Why you calling him out?
281
00:12:00,593 --> 00:12:02,094
We love you, David.
You're amazing.
282
00:12:02,194 --> 00:12:03,856
Love you, David.
Incredible, incredible actor.
283
00:12:03,956 --> 00:12:06,397
Amazing.
What is that?
284
00:12:09,199 --> 00:12:10,700
Judith and Carl.
285
00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,981
Mm.
286
00:12:12,081 --> 00:12:15,023
But where was that?
What is that?
287
00:12:15,123 --> 00:12:17,185
Is it the w--
288
00:12:17,285 --> 00:12:20,867
The porch.
Oh, the porch of the house.
289
00:12:20,967 --> 00:12:22,788
Did you just cut it
out of the porch
290
00:12:22,888 --> 00:12:24,890
and leave a hole
in the porch?
291
00:12:28,772 --> 00:12:30,193
Are you sure about that?
292
00:12:30,293 --> 00:12:33,355
Sure you didn't
just leave a hole in the--
293
00:12:33,455 --> 00:12:35,397
I'm gonna check later on
when we go.
294
00:12:35,497 --> 00:12:44,162
♪
295
00:12:44,262 --> 00:12:52,528
♪
296
00:12:52,628 --> 00:12:55,150
Look at that.
There we go.
297
00:12:57,711 --> 00:13:00,854
Had my arse out,
as they say in Scotland
298
00:13:00,954 --> 00:13:04,656
for the whole of
the first episode right there.
299
00:13:04,756 --> 00:13:06,818
Gurira:
Okay, moving on.
300
00:13:06,918 --> 00:13:08,178
Right.
Right.
301
00:13:08,278 --> 00:13:10,860
Now we're talking.
302
00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,942
This was my first outfit
that the fantastic Eulyn Hufkie,
303
00:13:14,042 --> 00:13:16,104
who was our costume designer
for many years,
304
00:13:16,204 --> 00:13:17,425
and did
a fantastic job.
305
00:13:17,525 --> 00:13:18,906
Amazing job.
Yeah.
306
00:13:19,006 --> 00:13:20,427
I think she really
enjoyed kind of stepping away
307
00:13:20,527 --> 00:13:22,068
from certain things
that the show had had,
308
00:13:22,168 --> 00:13:23,829
like duller colours.
309
00:13:23,929 --> 00:13:26,150
So Michonne kind of got
more color...
310
00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:28,392
That felt like a dig.
I don't know about you.
...in her palette.
311
00:13:28,492 --> 00:13:29,913
Duller color?
[Laughs]
312
00:13:30,013 --> 00:13:31,794
You brightened up
the show.
313
00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:33,035
No, I didn't say that.
[Laughs]
314
00:13:33,135 --> 00:13:35,877
I said Eulyn decided
to give me colour
315
00:13:35,977 --> 00:13:37,678
And then we covered you
in blood.
316
00:13:37,778 --> 00:13:39,399
[Growling]
[Grunting]
317
00:13:39,499 --> 00:13:41,601
♪
318
00:13:41,701 --> 00:13:43,042
[Groaning]
319
00:13:43,142 --> 00:13:46,124
Oh, God.
The boots.
320
00:13:46,224 --> 00:13:48,805
I can't-- I can't even believe
all the stuff I did this.
321
00:13:48,905 --> 00:13:52,048
But there came a time
I had to graduate these
322
00:13:52,148 --> 00:13:53,328
and put on some shoes
323
00:13:53,428 --> 00:13:56,010
with a bit more--
more heel support.
324
00:13:56,110 --> 00:13:57,731
But, like, listen,
sturdy as hell.
325
00:13:57,831 --> 00:13:59,933
Like, nothing's gonna get past
them or around them.
326
00:14:00,033 --> 00:14:02,334
So you were being appropriate
to the environment
327
00:14:02,434 --> 00:14:03,855
is what
you're saying.
328
00:14:03,955 --> 00:14:05,777
We were-- you know, we were
down and out in the dirt,
329
00:14:05,877 --> 00:14:07,058
eating dogs.
330
00:14:07,158 --> 00:14:08,499
Yeah, that was
a low point.
331
00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:09,819
It was low.
I have to admit.
332
00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:12,061
And I think,
at the end of it,
333
00:14:12,161 --> 00:14:13,982
we meet Aaron after we--
334
00:14:14,082 --> 00:14:16,024
and we're in the barn
and you look at me,
335
00:14:16,124 --> 00:14:17,505
and I'm like-- nod.
336
00:14:17,605 --> 00:14:18,905
And then you punch him.
Yeah.
337
00:14:19,005 --> 00:14:22,668
♪
338
00:14:22,768 --> 00:14:24,349
Like,
I wasn't saying, "Punch him."
339
00:14:24,449 --> 00:14:25,750
I thought-- I thought
that was the nod.
340
00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:27,551
I was saying, "I believe
what he's saying."
341
00:14:27,651 --> 00:14:31,594
So we're clear, that look wasn't
a "let's attack that man" look.
342
00:14:31,694 --> 00:14:34,116
It was a "he seems
like an okay guy to me" look.
343
00:14:34,216 --> 00:14:36,157
She's like, "We've got
to give this guy a shot,"
344
00:14:36,257 --> 00:14:38,518
because her instincts are saying
this could be a place,
345
00:14:38,618 --> 00:14:40,520
as she says to you
in that episode,
346
00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:42,001
where Judith
could grow up.
347
00:14:42,101 --> 00:14:43,962
We can't just toss him aside
and say he's lying.
348
00:14:44,062 --> 00:14:45,203
Yeah. Yeah.
349
00:14:45,303 --> 00:14:47,084
We don't need
to find out.
350
00:14:47,184 --> 00:14:49,566
We do.
351
00:14:49,666 --> 00:14:53,849
You know what you know,
and you're sure of it.
352
00:14:53,949 --> 00:14:55,950
But I'm not.
353
00:14:57,271 --> 00:14:58,412
Maggie: Me neither.
354
00:14:58,512 --> 00:15:06,897
♪
355
00:15:06,997 --> 00:15:09,659
Your way's dangerous.
Mine isn't.
356
00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:12,501
Passing up
someplace where we can live?
357
00:15:12,601 --> 00:15:14,823
Where Judith can live?
358
00:15:14,923 --> 00:15:17,064
That's pretty dangerous.
359
00:15:17,164 --> 00:15:18,825
♪
360
00:15:18,925 --> 00:15:22,488
We need to find out
what this is.
361
00:15:36,257 --> 00:15:41,921
♪
362
00:15:42,021 --> 00:15:44,522
I'd call dibs
on that one.
363
00:15:44,622 --> 00:15:47,244
It's got more...
curb appeal.
364
00:15:47,344 --> 00:15:49,205
♪
365
00:15:49,305 --> 00:15:51,807
Lincoln: Because this hasn't
changed that much
366
00:15:51,907 --> 00:15:53,208
I feel this is like
367
00:15:53,308 --> 00:15:56,450
more shocking to my system,
seeing this now.
368
00:15:56,550 --> 00:16:01,854
I mean, we've shot
every single part of this place.
369
00:16:01,954 --> 00:16:03,335
So, what did you feel like
when you came here?
370
00:16:03,435 --> 00:16:07,217
Were you just relieved
to get a hot shower?
371
00:16:07,317 --> 00:16:09,059
Gurira: It was about the idea
of moving
372
00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:12,341
into something structured
and real that was safe and good
373
00:16:12,441 --> 00:16:15,423
and the belief that
that had still exist,
374
00:16:15,523 --> 00:16:17,024
that Michonne was holding on to.
375
00:16:17,124 --> 00:16:19,025
And she was the one who said,
"Let's go towards D.C."
376
00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:20,626
She was the one who said,
377
00:16:20,726 --> 00:16:22,227
"We've got to give
Aaron a chance."
Yeah, yeah.
378
00:16:22,327 --> 00:16:25,109
And she's the one
who persuaded you to come here
379
00:16:25,209 --> 00:16:26,710
and you didn't know
whether or not you were gonna
380
00:16:26,810 --> 00:16:28,792
be able to do it,
and we have that conversation
381
00:16:28,892 --> 00:16:31,434
that was about what you
would hear when we got there.
382
00:16:31,534 --> 00:16:34,155
And when we got to the doors,
we hear children laughing.
383
00:16:34,255 --> 00:16:36,517
[Children shouting indistinctly
in distance]
384
00:16:36,617 --> 00:16:43,362
♪
385
00:16:43,462 --> 00:16:45,403
I loved coming here
because it was-- it was--
386
00:16:45,503 --> 00:16:47,564
it was about
coming together
387
00:16:47,664 --> 00:16:51,247
in a place that was,
yes, clean and beautiful
388
00:16:51,347 --> 00:16:54,889
and we could not shoot
on the side of a ditch road.
389
00:16:54,989 --> 00:16:56,730
I hated it, actually.
I really--
390
00:16:56,830 --> 00:16:58,251
I know, that's perfect
for our characters.
391
00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:00,733
I hated it
'cause it was, like, clean.
392
00:17:00,833 --> 00:17:02,054
I didn't feel real.
393
00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:03,535
It just didn't feel
like the show,
394
00:17:03,635 --> 00:17:04,896
and I was
really uncomfortable.
395
00:17:04,996 --> 00:17:07,137
And also then I had
to shave my beard off
396
00:17:07,237 --> 00:17:08,538
and I was furious
about that.
397
00:17:08,638 --> 00:17:09,979
Which we all thought
was great.
398
00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:12,181
Yeah, it was--
well, I'm glad you did.
399
00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:14,182
He had this
wretchedly massive beard.
400
00:17:14,282 --> 00:17:16,504
It was like you could not see
his face at all.
401
00:17:16,604 --> 00:17:18,345
But I thought
I was really rocking it,
402
00:17:18,445 --> 00:17:20,266
and then my son,
who likes to humiliate me,
403
00:17:20,366 --> 00:17:22,227
showed me a photo of the beard,
and I was like,
404
00:17:22,327 --> 00:17:27,111
"Oh, man, that was like
about four months too big.
405
00:17:27,211 --> 00:17:29,752
Why didn't anybody tell me?"
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
406
00:17:29,852 --> 00:17:31,473
It was a bad look.
And then it was like--
407
00:17:31,573 --> 00:17:32,914
It was a real shock, like,
408
00:17:33,014 --> 00:17:36,357
'cause all the men on set,
in solidarity,
409
00:17:36,457 --> 00:17:39,479
shaved their beards
when he shaved his.
410
00:17:39,579 --> 00:17:42,321
It was a really shocking day
to come to work.
411
00:17:42,421 --> 00:17:46,283
And all the girls were like,
"Did you see Andy?! Oh, my God!"
412
00:17:46,383 --> 00:17:49,165
So he was a little hottie
on set for a few days.
413
00:17:49,265 --> 00:17:50,606
And then it was like,
"Eh, it's just Andy."
414
00:17:50,706 --> 00:17:52,367
We did double takes.
It was weird.
415
00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:54,529
Like, "Oh, my God.
That was under there?"
416
00:17:54,629 --> 00:17:56,130
And then we had to wear
that uniform,
417
00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:58,231
which made me feel
a bit weird as well.
418
00:17:59,832 --> 00:18:02,854
What was your reaction to Deanna
appointing us constables?
419
00:18:02,954 --> 00:18:04,535
Well, I mean,
the good thing about it
420
00:18:04,635 --> 00:18:06,377
was that it allowed us
to have authority.
421
00:18:06,477 --> 00:18:08,698
There was a nervousness about,
are they gonna try to eat us
422
00:18:08,798 --> 00:18:10,900
like Terminus did
or try to kill us?
423
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,501
Like, what is
about to happen here?
424
00:18:12,601 --> 00:18:14,942
And so I think the cool thing
was the idea
425
00:18:15,042 --> 00:18:16,303
that she was
entrusting us.
426
00:18:16,403 --> 00:18:17,984
It was really her
reaching out and saying,
427
00:18:18,084 --> 00:18:21,066
"I entrust you with
the authority over this place."
428
00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:23,628
I'd like you
to be our constable.
429
00:18:23,728 --> 00:18:26,670
♪
430
00:18:26,770 --> 00:18:28,772
That's what you were.
431
00:18:30,052 --> 00:18:31,553
That's what you are.
432
00:18:31,653 --> 00:18:37,557
♪
433
00:18:37,657 --> 00:18:38,598
And you too.
434
00:18:38,698 --> 00:18:40,559
♪
435
00:18:40,659 --> 00:18:43,481
I sort of took the law
into my own hands a little bit.
Exactly.
436
00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:46,283
He became the biggest outlaw
in the whole doggone place.
437
00:18:46,383 --> 00:18:48,004
He was a dick.
438
00:18:48,104 --> 00:18:49,966
He was, but, I mean,
I rewatched that
439
00:18:50,066 --> 00:18:51,727
and I was like,
"Oh, my God."
440
00:18:51,827 --> 00:18:55,529
That was really some crazy
vigilante stuff you went after,
441
00:18:55,629 --> 00:18:57,691
and it was really just because
you had a crush on his wife.
442
00:18:57,791 --> 00:19:00,453
A little bit.
Would you care if you didn't
have a crush on his wife?
443
00:19:00,553 --> 00:19:03,214
Yes, I was-- I was entrusted
as being a constable.
444
00:19:03,314 --> 00:19:06,016
I was making--
I was keeping the peace.
That's not how a constable
functions. Give me a break.
445
00:19:06,116 --> 00:19:09,259
I was keeping the peace
by breaking a few--
I kept the peace,
and I knocked your ass out.
446
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,900
That was
keeping the peace.
447
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,862
But it made
for great drama.
448
00:19:14,962 --> 00:19:17,624
If you don't fight,
you die.
449
00:19:17,724 --> 00:19:19,625
I'm not gonna stand by--
450
00:19:19,725 --> 00:19:21,106
[Grunts]
451
00:19:21,206 --> 00:19:24,028
Was it a conscious decision
to actually hit me?
452
00:19:24,128 --> 00:19:29,152
Uh, it was a conscious decision
to make it work
453
00:19:29,252 --> 00:19:32,914
and trust that you could
take it, whatever it took.
454
00:19:33,014 --> 00:19:34,675
Wow.
455
00:19:34,775 --> 00:19:37,637
But no, I did not consciously
want to actually make contact.
456
00:19:37,737 --> 00:19:38,958
Okay.
It just-- Andy, come on.
457
00:19:39,058 --> 00:19:41,000
I probably deserved it.
I had it coming.
458
00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,721
Probably.
But it was just a little clip.
459
00:19:42,821 --> 00:19:44,402
It was a tap.
Yeah.
460
00:19:44,502 --> 00:19:46,003
And I think it helped you...
461
00:19:46,103 --> 00:19:48,044
Hit the deck.
...enact your action.
462
00:19:48,144 --> 00:19:49,685
Yeah, true.
Yeah.
Which you did pretty well.
463
00:19:49,785 --> 00:19:50,966
Thank you.
464
00:19:51,066 --> 00:19:53,168
Yeah, you looked
pretty messed up.
465
00:19:53,268 --> 00:19:54,929
I loved how it came out,
quite honestly.
466
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:56,250
I thought
it looked great.
467
00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:59,132
Ha ha ha ha!
468
00:19:59,232 --> 00:20:02,214
The punch did lead
to a very tender moment
469
00:20:02,314 --> 00:20:03,855
between Rick and Michonne,
470
00:20:03,955 --> 00:20:06,777
which I think was definitely
a hint at what was to come,
471
00:20:06,877 --> 00:20:11,580
which was the scene where
he's sort of admitting
472
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,741
that he lied to her...
473
00:20:13,841 --> 00:20:16,303
Yeah.
...and was scared
to tell the truth,
474
00:20:16,403 --> 00:20:18,184
'cause she could talk him out
of things,
475
00:20:18,284 --> 00:20:20,666
and hands her his gun.
Yeah.
476
00:20:20,766 --> 00:20:25,189
And her response
is to trust him
477
00:20:25,289 --> 00:20:27,631
and to make him
keep his gun...
478
00:20:27,731 --> 00:20:31,193
Yeah.
...and to trust him
to make the right move
479
00:20:31,293 --> 00:20:33,234
and to let him know
that she's still with him
480
00:20:33,334 --> 00:20:35,116
even if things
don't work out here.
481
00:20:35,216 --> 00:20:37,998
I think that was
a very telling moment
482
00:20:38,098 --> 00:20:39,559
between them
as future partners.
483
00:20:39,659 --> 00:20:40,599
Yeah.
484
00:20:40,699 --> 00:20:48,244
♪
485
00:20:48,344 --> 00:20:55,849
♪
486
00:20:55,949 --> 00:20:58,491
This is exactly
where it happened.
487
00:20:58,591 --> 00:20:59,972
Mm-hmm.
488
00:21:00,072 --> 00:21:01,973
When did Scott actually--
Scott Gimple--
489
00:21:02,073 --> 00:21:03,494
when did he tell you?
490
00:21:03,594 --> 00:21:05,015
He told me
at the beginning of the season.
Ah.
491
00:21:05,115 --> 00:21:07,537
He told me in a way
that was very like
492
00:21:07,637 --> 00:21:11,700
he was almost too afraid
to mention it in full sentences.
493
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,501
But he basically told me.
494
00:21:13,601 --> 00:21:15,182
You know,
we had had conversations
495
00:21:15,282 --> 00:21:18,384
about why
I was grouped with you so much.
496
00:21:18,484 --> 00:21:20,746
And one of the writers said
to me one time, they're like,
497
00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,267
"Well, we just keep
writing to Rick and Michonne
498
00:21:22,367 --> 00:21:23,748
because those scenes
just work so well.
499
00:21:23,848 --> 00:21:25,269
We just
keep writing them."
500
00:21:25,369 --> 00:21:26,910
And so he'd been talking
about things like that to me,
501
00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:29,152
and then he just said, "That
thing that keeps happening
502
00:21:29,252 --> 00:21:30,633
over this year, it'll..."
503
00:21:30,733 --> 00:21:32,073
And he couldn't bring his--
504
00:21:32,173 --> 00:21:33,715
he couldn't bring the words
out of his mouth.
505
00:21:33,815 --> 00:21:35,156
Like he was scared.
That's so Gimple.
506
00:21:35,256 --> 00:21:36,757
Like the walls were listening,
you know?
507
00:21:36,857 --> 00:21:38,838
And I was like, "You mean
Rick and Michonne get together?"
508
00:21:38,938 --> 00:21:42,721
He's like, "Well, we don't
want to say out loud! But yeah."
509
00:21:42,821 --> 00:21:46,443
So he-- he had always--
but it really did freak me out
510
00:21:46,543 --> 00:21:47,564
to see it on the page.
511
00:21:47,664 --> 00:21:49,165
Oh, God, yeah.
I was freaked out.
512
00:21:49,265 --> 00:21:50,966
I was like,
"Holy shit."
513
00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:54,248
But then it made absolute sense
as soon as we did the scene.
514
00:21:54,348 --> 00:21:55,529
Yeah,
I will give Rick this--
515
00:21:55,629 --> 00:21:57,130
It looked like
he was making the move
516
00:21:57,230 --> 00:22:02,654
and she was responding in shock
to the realisation
517
00:22:02,754 --> 00:22:05,496
that this is exactly
what she's wanted,
518
00:22:05,596 --> 00:22:10,579
but not dared to truly bring
to full consciousness.
519
00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:12,420
And now it was
just dead clear.
520
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,342
Well, and I think it was also,
for the group dynamic,
521
00:22:15,442 --> 00:22:17,704
it was already established
that there was a sort of
522
00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:20,986
father and mother of the rest
of the group.
523
00:22:21,086 --> 00:22:23,308
Certainly the biggest baby
in the group, Daryl Dixon,
524
00:22:23,408 --> 00:22:26,670
you know,
felt that much earlier on.
525
00:22:26,770 --> 00:22:28,911
[Laughs]
He had very mixed feelings
about our coupling.
526
00:22:29,011 --> 00:22:30,512
He was so-- oh, my God,
he still does.
527
00:22:30,612 --> 00:22:32,233
He was like, "I'm mad.
Don't touch me. I'm mad."
528
00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:34,315
Yeah.
I was like,
"What are you mad about?"
529
00:22:34,415 --> 00:22:36,156
He's like, "Michonne's supposed
to be with Daryl."
Yeah.
530
00:22:36,256 --> 00:22:37,397
But then at the same time,
he was like,
531
00:22:37,497 --> 00:22:38,998
"Rick's supposed to be
with Daryl."
532
00:22:39,098 --> 00:22:41,760
Yeah.
So he was just in
a bit of a conundrum.
533
00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,561
Yeah, he just didn't know
where to turn.
534
00:22:43,661 --> 00:22:45,202
He was very confused.
[Laughs]
535
00:22:45,302 --> 00:22:49,365
It was a very difficult season
for Normski, bless him.
536
00:22:49,465 --> 00:22:51,466
Bless him.
537
00:22:56,069 --> 00:22:58,211
♪
538
00:22:58,311 --> 00:22:59,372
Son...
539
00:22:59,472 --> 00:23:00,572
What?
540
00:23:00,672 --> 00:23:02,333
[Whistling]
541
00:23:02,433 --> 00:23:09,778
♪
542
00:23:09,878 --> 00:23:11,139
[Whistling continues]
543
00:23:11,239 --> 00:23:15,142
♪
544
00:23:15,242 --> 00:23:17,103
Go! Go!
545
00:23:17,203 --> 00:23:19,545
[Whistling continues]
546
00:23:19,645 --> 00:23:25,549
♪
547
00:23:25,649 --> 00:23:30,752
♪
548
00:23:30,852 --> 00:23:35,476
Lincoln: So, Danai, this spot in
particular, does it haunt you?
549
00:23:35,576 --> 00:23:38,357
Yeah, this was
the Negan lineup place
550
00:23:38,457 --> 00:23:42,240
where it felt like we spent
about 200 days
551
00:23:42,340 --> 00:23:43,721
shooting on our knees.
552
00:23:43,821 --> 00:23:45,362
It was-- It was awful.
553
00:23:45,462 --> 00:23:47,804
And it was-- like,
the saddest part was to see,
554
00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,405
like,
how defenceless we were.
555
00:23:49,505 --> 00:23:53,407
Like, we had no way
out of that situation.
556
00:23:53,507 --> 00:23:54,648
Eeny...
557
00:23:54,748 --> 00:23:56,970
♪
558
00:23:57,070 --> 00:23:59,211
...meeny...
559
00:23:59,311 --> 00:24:00,972
miny...
560
00:24:01,072 --> 00:24:03,894
moe.
561
00:24:03,994 --> 00:24:08,057
And we lost two spectacularly
brilliant actors.
562
00:24:08,157 --> 00:24:10,099
Yeah.
Yeah.
563
00:24:10,199 --> 00:24:12,300
It was just here, wasn't it?
I mean, it was...
564
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,261
And they had that horrible
whistle, didn't they?
565
00:24:14,361 --> 00:24:15,262
With that...
566
00:24:15,362 --> 00:24:16,743
That [Whistles]
567
00:24:16,843 --> 00:24:18,184
Yeah.
That.
568
00:24:18,284 --> 00:24:20,505
And he was such a saunterer,
you know?
569
00:24:20,605 --> 00:24:22,827
Mr. JDM.
[Laughs]
570
00:24:22,927 --> 00:24:25,549
We had to just spent hours
and hours just watching him
571
00:24:25,649 --> 00:24:27,830
just masquerade,
you know?
Yeah.
572
00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:29,431
Well, bless him.
573
00:24:29,531 --> 00:24:30,912
I mean,
he did have to come and...
Oh, no, no, no.
574
00:24:31,012 --> 00:24:32,113
He was brilliant,
I mean.
575
00:24:32,213 --> 00:24:33,674
...and do
14 pages of dialogue.
576
00:24:33,774 --> 00:24:36,756
I know, taking that role, like,
just dropping in
577
00:24:36,856 --> 00:24:40,078
and just blanching us,
that's no small task.
578
00:24:40,178 --> 00:24:42,720
It took a titan like JDM
to do what he did.
Yeah, he was brilliant.
579
00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:45,162
It was, I mean,
from an audience perspective,
580
00:24:45,262 --> 00:24:46,603
he was
extremely entertaining
581
00:24:46,703 --> 00:24:49,805
but utterly horrifying, diabolical.
582
00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:53,447
I still think that that--
the reconciliation was,
583
00:24:53,547 --> 00:24:56,609
you know, so difficult with
with the Saviours, wasn't it?
584
00:24:56,709 --> 00:25:00,572
It was such a-- an amazing
sort of ambitious idea
585
00:25:00,672 --> 00:25:04,935
for the writers
to try and rehabilitate him.
586
00:25:05,035 --> 00:25:06,096
Yeah.
And they did it.
587
00:25:06,196 --> 00:25:07,737
They kind of did it.
Yeah.
588
00:25:07,837 --> 00:25:11,820
I mean, I think by the time
I leave the show,
589
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,621
he's still
locked up in a cage.
590
00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:15,142
Yeah. Good.
591
00:25:15,242 --> 00:25:17,023
Oh, but also, you know,
losing Steven,
592
00:25:17,123 --> 00:25:20,185
I fought so hard
to try and save Stephen.
Did you?
593
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:21,826
Yeah, because, you know,
594
00:25:21,926 --> 00:25:23,547
he was such a great friend
and he'd been there.
595
00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,269
He was a pillar
of the show.
596
00:25:25,369 --> 00:25:26,709
Yeah.
Big-time, big-time.
597
00:25:26,809 --> 00:25:28,271
But the death dinner
was a tradition
598
00:25:28,371 --> 00:25:31,232
that kind of
kicked in very early.
599
00:25:31,332 --> 00:25:33,474
I think it was
Sarah Wayne Callies
that just went,
600
00:25:33,574 --> 00:25:34,715
"Well, let's do
a death dinner."
601
00:25:34,815 --> 00:25:36,236
Great.
It was a great idea.
602
00:25:36,336 --> 00:25:39,278
And what it did is that it made
sort of more sense
603
00:25:39,378 --> 00:25:41,880
for the person leaving,
hopefully, but also helped
604
00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:46,403
everybody recover
from the change in the dynamic.
605
00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:48,684
Yeah.
You know, which I thought
was really inspired.
606
00:25:48,784 --> 00:25:51,086
And everyone could
express love to the person.
607
00:25:51,186 --> 00:25:52,767
Yeah, it was great.
It was just--
608
00:25:52,867 --> 00:25:56,529
Yeah, it was. It was like having
your funeral and being alive.
609
00:25:56,629 --> 00:25:57,690
Yeah.
610
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,132
With Steven's,
I had this idea.
611
00:26:00,232 --> 00:26:02,053
I was like, Steven was
such, like, a performer.
612
00:26:02,153 --> 00:26:06,296
He could dance, he could sing
like none of us could.
613
00:26:06,396 --> 00:26:08,217
And he would just be always
just singing
614
00:26:08,317 --> 00:26:10,379
like a lot
of Justin Timberlake
615
00:26:10,479 --> 00:26:12,100
and like, you know,
the boy-band stuff.
616
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,982
So we did "I Want
It That Way" as a lip sync.
617
00:26:16,082 --> 00:26:18,144
We were all in white pants, and
we were all being like the guy.
618
00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,585
Oh, I do you remember that?
Yeah, yeah.
619
00:26:19,685 --> 00:26:23,027
And then Cudlitz as well.
Lovely Michael Cudlitz.
620
00:26:23,127 --> 00:26:25,669
Yes, who then came and directed
and directed some...
Brilliant.
621
00:26:25,769 --> 00:26:29,031
...astounding moments I've been
able to do with him as an actor.
622
00:26:29,131 --> 00:26:30,592
I know there's a moment
in there you don't like
623
00:26:30,692 --> 00:26:32,113
and I won't talk about it,
but...
624
00:26:32,213 --> 00:26:33,754
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Why--
625
00:26:33,854 --> 00:26:38,757
'Cause why would you just bring
it up and then just move on?
626
00:26:38,857 --> 00:26:41,960
It was just a moment
where Ezekiel was about to
627
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:45,202
possibly take his own life,
and Michonne stops him,
628
00:26:45,302 --> 00:26:47,043
and in his gratitude...
With your lips.
629
00:26:47,143 --> 00:26:48,684
No. No.
You stopped him
with your lips.
630
00:26:48,784 --> 00:26:50,845
In his gratitude,
he then-- we hug.
631
00:26:50,945 --> 00:26:55,809
And then, surprisingly
to Michonne, he does kiss her.
632
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:58,050
Oh, he kisses her.
Yeah, of course
he kisses her!
633
00:26:58,150 --> 00:26:59,451
She didn't kiss him.
Was it reciprocated?
634
00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:01,052
How long was it?
No, not really.
635
00:27:01,152 --> 00:27:10,138
♪
636
00:27:10,238 --> 00:27:12,220
It couldn't have been
more than three...
637
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,461
Okay, that's reciprocated.
...two, three seconds.
638
00:27:14,561 --> 00:27:16,182
Anything past a second...
That is not reciprocated.
639
00:27:16,282 --> 00:27:18,464
How? How is that
reciprocation?
...is reciprocated.
640
00:27:18,564 --> 00:27:20,265
She pulls back like this.
If someone kisses,
you move away.
641
00:27:20,365 --> 00:27:21,906
But you're never gonna watch it,
so this isn't a problem.
642
00:27:22,006 --> 00:27:23,387
That's not even a second.
It's like half a second.
643
00:27:23,487 --> 00:27:25,148
It's weird. It's weird.
Oh, my God.
644
00:27:25,248 --> 00:27:28,230
And then she proceeds to only
talk about Rick, like, so...
645
00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:30,031
That's even weirder.
646
00:27:30,131 --> 00:27:32,993
You might not know about this,
but in my final episode, I--
647
00:27:33,093 --> 00:27:34,955
it was like
a "Sliding Doors" thing.
648
00:27:35,055 --> 00:27:36,236
You kiss someone else?
649
00:27:36,336 --> 00:27:37,717
I didn't kiss anybody.
Okay, good.
650
00:27:37,817 --> 00:27:39,638
Well, I mean, if we're gonna
do it, let's do it now.
651
00:27:39,738 --> 00:27:41,399
No, no.
While we're recapping.
652
00:27:41,499 --> 00:27:42,920
Nobody--
[Exhales sharply]
653
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,562
It was just a moment where--
you're so silly.
654
00:27:45,662 --> 00:27:47,283
You kind of go through a journey
with her
655
00:27:47,383 --> 00:27:50,605
of how it could have gone
if she hadn't made the choice,
656
00:27:50,705 --> 00:27:52,166
through her humanity,
to save her.
657
00:27:52,266 --> 00:27:55,208
And so you see this
really gruesome sequence
658
00:27:55,308 --> 00:27:57,690
where she just leaves
Andrea to get killed.
Wow.
659
00:27:57,790 --> 00:27:59,531
So that's like
her other reality
660
00:27:59,631 --> 00:28:01,693
and she becomes
a Saviour.
661
00:28:01,793 --> 00:28:02,853
What?
662
00:28:02,953 --> 00:28:04,534
So this is all
a "Sliding Door"
663
00:28:04,634 --> 00:28:06,176
sort of thing
that's going on in her mind.
664
00:28:06,276 --> 00:28:07,777
She's hallucinating
because she's been made high
665
00:28:07,877 --> 00:28:09,978
by some tea
that causes hallucinations.
666
00:28:10,078 --> 00:28:12,980
Long story. It's how she finds
your boots, though. Long story.
667
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,703
So then she's walking down the
line, and it's really freaky.
668
00:28:16,803 --> 00:28:19,865
I have an incident with you guys
where I'm the person saying,
669
00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:24,187
"Help me," and then you guys
drive past me in the car
670
00:28:24,287 --> 00:28:26,309
when I have the orange backpack
from episode 12...
671
00:28:26,409 --> 00:28:27,870
Oh, wow, wild.
...but I'm that person.
672
00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:29,551
How wild.
So then I have beef
with you guys.
673
00:28:29,651 --> 00:28:31,272
Something else happens
and I-- oh, yeah,
674
00:28:31,372 --> 00:28:33,434
you go and shoot all the people
in the thing that we do.
675
00:28:33,534 --> 00:28:35,475
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I have personal beef
with you guys
676
00:28:35,575 --> 00:28:36,836
'cause I'm in one of the beds
677
00:28:36,936 --> 00:28:38,397
and I shoot a couple people
and get away.
678
00:28:38,497 --> 00:28:39,558
This is-- who wrote this?
679
00:28:39,658 --> 00:28:41,519
It's crazy.
This is a great episode.
680
00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:43,200
He comes down the line--
I kind of wish
I watched the show now.
681
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:44,441
I kind of wish
you did too sometimes.
682
00:28:44,541 --> 00:28:45,882
It sounds like
a really good episode.
683
00:28:45,982 --> 00:28:47,243
He comes down the line,
he sees everybody.
684
00:28:47,343 --> 00:28:48,844
Then he says,
"Now I'm gonna let my girl
685
00:28:48,944 --> 00:28:51,326
who's been doing such great work
make her decision."
686
00:28:51,426 --> 00:28:53,287
Oh, and you kill the person
in the lineup?
687
00:28:53,387 --> 00:28:55,528
Yeah, but it ends up
being I kill myself.
688
00:28:55,628 --> 00:28:57,730
What happens next...
689
00:28:57,830 --> 00:29:00,892
♪
690
00:29:00,992 --> 00:29:02,813
...it's your fault.
691
00:29:02,913 --> 00:29:04,975
♪
692
00:29:05,075 --> 00:29:09,418
Welcome to the new world.
693
00:29:09,518 --> 00:29:11,519
Hagh!
[Thuds]
694
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,742
♪
695
00:29:15,842 --> 00:29:18,424
I wonder how many scenes
we've done on this porch.
696
00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:21,666
You know what I mean?
It's so bizarre.
Mm-hmm.
697
00:29:21,766 --> 00:29:25,268
This isn't the right porch,
but it's just brought to mind,
698
00:29:25,368 --> 00:29:28,991
you know, Scott Wilson
and his porch scene,
699
00:29:29,091 --> 00:29:33,434
which is after Carl's been shot
and we go to the farm.
700
00:29:33,534 --> 00:29:36,556
And I just want to shout out
Scott Wilson just because...
701
00:29:36,656 --> 00:29:38,317
Yes,
the great Scott Wilson.
702
00:29:38,417 --> 00:29:40,638
...just because
it was such a privilege.
703
00:29:40,738 --> 00:29:42,760
He was just one of those
extraordinary mentors,
704
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:44,601
wasn't he,
that we all loved.
705
00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:47,443
Your exit from the show...
706
00:29:47,543 --> 00:29:49,004
Yeah.
707
00:29:49,104 --> 00:29:52,606
I thought they did
such a beautiful job.
708
00:29:52,706 --> 00:29:56,609
Particularly,
I loved our scene on the bridge.
709
00:29:56,709 --> 00:29:58,930
You're my family.
710
00:29:59,030 --> 00:30:02,573
♪
711
00:30:02,673 --> 00:30:04,014
I found you.
712
00:30:04,114 --> 00:30:06,936
You did.
713
00:30:07,036 --> 00:30:09,738
Lincoln: We were able to say
so much in that episode
714
00:30:09,838 --> 00:30:12,780
because of bringing
extraordinary actors back,
715
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,102
like Jon Bernthal
and-- and Scott.
716
00:30:16,202 --> 00:30:19,464
And I think that that was
the brilliance of the writing
717
00:30:19,564 --> 00:30:22,706
was really, really
proper genre writing
718
00:30:22,806 --> 00:30:26,069
that you could sort of
break apart the form
719
00:30:26,169 --> 00:30:28,910
and try different things
and fail sometimes,
720
00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:30,592
but sometimes it works.
721
00:30:30,692 --> 00:30:33,473
I thought they did a
magnificent job with that exit.
722
00:30:33,573 --> 00:30:35,575
I found them.
723
00:30:47,823 --> 00:30:56,129
♪
724
00:30:56,229 --> 00:31:04,534
♪
725
00:31:04,634 --> 00:31:08,417
♪
726
00:31:08,517 --> 00:31:09,858
[Helicopter blades whirring]
727
00:31:09,958 --> 00:31:15,581
♪
728
00:31:15,681 --> 00:31:20,825
♪
729
00:31:20,925 --> 00:31:23,106
I have a B.
730
00:31:23,206 --> 00:31:25,828
Not an A.
I never had an A.
731
00:31:25,928 --> 00:31:28,430
He's hurt, but he's strong.
Can you help him?
732
00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:31,592
I'm trying to save a friend.
733
00:31:31,692 --> 00:31:33,794
A friend who saved me.
734
00:31:33,894 --> 00:31:36,956
I have something for you now.
735
00:31:37,056 --> 00:31:38,757
We have a deal?
736
00:31:38,857 --> 00:31:45,721
♪
737
00:31:45,821 --> 00:31:48,683
You're still here.
738
00:31:48,783 --> 00:31:50,785
You're gonna be okay.
739
00:31:52,626 --> 00:31:55,048
They're gonna save you.
740
00:31:55,148 --> 00:31:59,891
It was hard leaving the show.
It was really hard.
741
00:31:59,991 --> 00:32:01,772
I knew what I was doing.
742
00:32:01,872 --> 00:32:04,454
I knew what I was-- the hole
that I was leaving.
743
00:32:04,554 --> 00:32:07,336
And there was that draw
of wanting to stay
744
00:32:07,436 --> 00:32:10,818
and be with my family here,
but knowing that my real family
745
00:32:10,918 --> 00:32:12,980
was needing me back home,
you know?
746
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,942
And it-- And it was--
and, you know, the truth was,
747
00:32:16,042 --> 00:32:19,104
I could have gone a year
earlier, and I wasn't ready to.
748
00:32:19,204 --> 00:32:22,706
I remember we were at Comic-Con
and I went, "I can't do it."
749
00:32:22,806 --> 00:32:26,268
And I said-- I saw everybody,
and I was just like,
750
00:32:26,368 --> 00:32:28,030
"I'm gonna have
to stay a bit longer.
751
00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:30,912
I said to Scott, I said, "Scott,
I don't think I can do it yet.
752
00:32:31,012 --> 00:32:32,473
I haven't made peace
with it."
753
00:32:32,573 --> 00:32:34,714
You know,
it was a big deal.
754
00:32:34,814 --> 00:32:36,835
This is gonna
sound wrong, but...
755
00:32:36,935 --> 00:32:41,919
You preferred your experience
after I'd left the show.
No.
756
00:32:42,019 --> 00:32:45,361
No, I don't mean it like that.
I don't, I swear.
757
00:32:45,461 --> 00:32:47,242
I don't.
"But..."
758
00:32:47,342 --> 00:32:49,844
But there was
an interesting--
There was a "but" coming.
759
00:32:49,944 --> 00:32:51,845
There was a navigation
she had to make.
You can't...
760
00:32:51,945 --> 00:32:54,087
Okay, that's it.
You have to go your...
761
00:32:54,187 --> 00:32:56,609
It was like we had to jump
six years forward.
762
00:32:56,709 --> 00:32:58,810
And then she has a son now.
763
00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:01,972
She has a five-year-old
that looks just like him.
764
00:33:02,072 --> 00:33:05,895
And then she has this very
precocious 12-year-old daughter
765
00:33:05,995 --> 00:33:08,897
who walks around with her
little katana on her back.
766
00:33:08,997 --> 00:33:11,418
It was just so riveting
and amazing to work with her.
767
00:33:11,518 --> 00:33:13,580
Incredible.
It was just
new beginnings so quick.
768
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,141
It was super smart.
769
00:33:15,241 --> 00:33:16,902
This little katana on her back,
which I just loved.
770
00:33:17,002 --> 00:33:18,143
Yeah.
I already mentioned it.
771
00:33:18,243 --> 00:33:19,664
I loved that little thing
on her back.
772
00:33:19,764 --> 00:33:21,385
Now she's kind of outgrown it,
hasn't she?
773
00:33:21,485 --> 00:33:23,466
Did you steal that
as well?
774
00:33:23,566 --> 00:33:27,989
Who exactly is supposed
to have that katana except me?
775
00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:31,712
Who, Andy? Who?
776
00:33:31,812 --> 00:33:33,073
Was it difficult for you?
777
00:33:33,173 --> 00:33:34,794
Because you went
the following year.
778
00:33:34,894 --> 00:33:36,595
Well, when you said
you were leaving,
779
00:33:36,695 --> 00:33:40,037
I think I knew
it was my time as well coming.
780
00:33:40,137 --> 00:33:42,519
And I didn't know
exactly how or when,
781
00:33:42,619 --> 00:33:45,241
but I knew I had
to start thinking like that.
782
00:33:45,341 --> 00:33:48,843
And when you left, you said,
"Now go lead."
783
00:33:48,943 --> 00:33:50,404
And I was like, "What?"
Oh, yeah.
784
00:33:50,504 --> 00:33:53,006
I was like, "That's scary."
Yeah.
785
00:33:53,106 --> 00:33:54,567
And I was like, "How?"
786
00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:58,089
And you were like, "Just do what
you-- Do you. Be you."
787
00:33:58,189 --> 00:34:00,171
And I was like,
"What the F does that mean?"
788
00:34:00,271 --> 00:34:02,933
And I was like-- you walked
away like fucking Yoda.
789
00:34:03,033 --> 00:34:05,775
And I'm just left like...
"What?"
790
00:34:05,875 --> 00:34:08,817
I think I might have meant that
for Norman, that...
791
00:34:08,917 --> 00:34:10,938
No, you didn't.
[Laughs]
792
00:34:11,038 --> 00:34:12,099
No, I'm joking.
793
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,860
Though, yeah,
I mean, I was surprised
794
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,781
that you said it to me,
but you did.
795
00:34:15,881 --> 00:34:18,463
You-- You asked me the
question, you know, earlier--
796
00:34:18,563 --> 00:34:20,785
What has it been like
to return to him?
797
00:34:20,885 --> 00:34:23,907
And I said, well, it's--
it's so easy and so effortless
798
00:34:24,007 --> 00:34:28,870
but also deeply important
to do it as well.
799
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:31,151
And I'm thankful for you because
you were the one that said,
800
00:34:31,251 --> 00:34:32,672
"We have to.
We should.
801
00:34:32,772 --> 00:34:34,033
You know, there's a story
to be told
802
00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:35,554
and we need
to finish this thing."
803
00:34:35,654 --> 00:34:37,756
And-- And I thank you
for that.
804
00:34:37,856 --> 00:34:41,879
And, you know, it's been
such a special experience.
805
00:34:41,979 --> 00:34:46,322
You can't-- no matter
how many of these we do
806
00:34:46,422 --> 00:34:51,805
and how much information we give
you on film or-- or in books
807
00:34:51,905 --> 00:34:56,088
or whatever, or at Comic-Cons,
you know, we lived it.
808
00:34:56,188 --> 00:34:58,850
It's like, I was thinking
as I was driving here, going,
809
00:34:58,950 --> 00:35:01,852
I used to drive back
listening to Johnny Cash
810
00:35:01,952 --> 00:35:03,813
when we'd done a day
that was great,
811
00:35:03,913 --> 00:35:05,254
like when
you knocked me out
812
00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:06,815
and we had
one of those big days,
813
00:35:06,915 --> 00:35:09,017
and there was nothing better
than seeing
814
00:35:09,117 --> 00:35:10,778
a sort of Georgia sunset,
815
00:35:10,878 --> 00:35:12,819
listening to a bit
of Johnny Cash and going,
816
00:35:12,919 --> 00:35:15,101
"We had a good day
at the office."
817
00:35:15,201 --> 00:35:16,942
And only we
sort of shared that.
818
00:35:17,042 --> 00:35:20,264
And it was-- and it's a very,
very special,
819
00:35:20,364 --> 00:35:23,706
you know, thing
that we'll always have.
820
00:35:23,806 --> 00:35:24,947
Yeah.
821
00:35:25,047 --> 00:35:31,231
♪
822
00:35:31,331 --> 00:35:34,434
Hey, Rick.
823
00:35:34,534 --> 00:35:35,554
Come here.
824
00:35:35,654 --> 00:35:37,676
Look at this.
825
00:35:37,776 --> 00:35:41,558
♪
826
00:35:41,658 --> 00:35:43,159
[Bird chirping]
827
00:35:43,259 --> 00:35:46,121
This place.
828
00:35:46,221 --> 00:35:48,003
[Sighs]
829
00:35:48,103 --> 00:35:50,104
It's beautiful.
830
00:35:51,585 --> 00:35:54,367
Man on P.A.: Consignee Grimes,
you've been located
831
00:35:54,467 --> 00:35:56,088
and are instructed
to surrender.
832
00:35:56,188 --> 00:36:00,011
Remain in place
with your hands up.
833
00:36:00,111 --> 00:36:01,932
[Hooves clopping]
834
00:36:02,032 --> 00:36:04,574
♪
835
00:36:04,674 --> 00:36:06,055
[Helicopter blades whirring]
836
00:36:06,155 --> 00:36:08,536
[Rick grunts]
837
00:36:08,636 --> 00:36:10,297
Come on, Rick.
838
00:36:10,397 --> 00:36:12,699
It's like he told you.
839
00:36:12,799 --> 00:36:14,880
There's no escape
from the living.
840
00:36:16,802 --> 00:36:19,864
Michonne:
Remember what I said.
841
00:36:19,964 --> 00:36:23,426
It's what he said.
Hold it to your heart.
842
00:36:23,526 --> 00:36:25,708
It's true.
843
00:36:25,808 --> 00:36:27,429
Forever.
844
00:36:27,529 --> 00:36:31,351
♪
845
00:36:31,451 --> 00:36:33,753
We are the ones who live.
846
00:36:33,853 --> 00:36:38,316
♪
847
00:36:38,416 --> 00:36:40,477
Rick:
We're the ones who live.
848
00:36:40,577 --> 00:36:43,880
♪
849
00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:49,884
What was it like, Danai,
to reprise the role of Michonne
850
00:36:49,984 --> 00:36:53,246
in the six-part miniseries
for AMC?
851
00:36:53,346 --> 00:36:55,768
It was incredible.
I mean, it was very intense.
852
00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:58,690
I mean, we started off,
it was the three of us,
853
00:36:58,790 --> 00:37:00,491
you know,
creating this thing,
854
00:37:00,591 --> 00:37:03,133
and we got a lot done
in a short amount of time
855
00:37:03,233 --> 00:37:05,734
in terms of figuring out
what this was supposed to be.
856
00:37:05,834 --> 00:37:07,095
It was an epic love story
857
00:37:07,195 --> 00:37:09,257
is kind of the heart of it,
wasn't it?
858
00:37:09,357 --> 00:37:14,300
These two incredibly
similar types of people
859
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,021
that love one another
have disappeared
860
00:37:16,121 --> 00:37:18,062
from the mother ship,
and we just wanted
861
00:37:18,162 --> 00:37:19,944
to sort of fill in the blanks,
really, didn't we?
862
00:37:20,044 --> 00:37:21,585
Well, yeah, it was it was
definitely a story
863
00:37:21,685 --> 00:37:23,226
that needed
to be completed.
864
00:37:23,326 --> 00:37:26,348
And I do think that these
characters are so beloved,
865
00:37:26,448 --> 00:37:28,149
you know, by us as well.
866
00:37:28,249 --> 00:37:30,911
You know, we were-- so to be
part of that creative process
867
00:37:31,011 --> 00:37:36,114
and to have a bit more input
from the sort of the genesis
868
00:37:36,214 --> 00:37:38,396
was really exciting
because, you know--
869
00:37:38,496 --> 00:37:41,278
and I think a lot of it was,
"What would I want to see?"
870
00:37:41,378 --> 00:37:43,599
Mm-hmm.
You know, you wrote
an episode
871
00:37:43,699 --> 00:37:45,561
and starred in it
and produced an episode
872
00:37:45,661 --> 00:37:47,322
as you were filming...
Yeah.
873
00:37:47,422 --> 00:37:50,284
...as well,
and I was so impressed.
874
00:37:50,384 --> 00:37:52,926
I was so kind of shocked
at your capacity
875
00:37:53,026 --> 00:37:55,888
to be able to wear all of
these hats at the same time.
876
00:37:55,988 --> 00:37:58,609
I don't think I would be able
to do that,
877
00:37:58,709 --> 00:37:59,930
you know what I mean?
878
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:02,092
Were you able
to kind of navigate that?
879
00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:03,933
Yeah, I mean, it was--
it was intense.
880
00:38:04,033 --> 00:38:05,734
It was intense,
but it was just like
881
00:38:05,834 --> 00:38:07,415
once I'd started
to write it
882
00:38:07,515 --> 00:38:09,617
and I was getting more and more
invested in getting it as rich
883
00:38:09,717 --> 00:38:11,778
as it needed to be for the
characters and for the journey,
884
00:38:11,878 --> 00:38:13,459
there was just no
letting go of it.
885
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,501
It was like, it's your kid.
Now it's just your kid.
886
00:38:15,601 --> 00:38:16,822
You just
take care of your kid.
887
00:38:16,922 --> 00:38:18,383
But anyway,
the long and short of it was
888
00:38:18,483 --> 00:38:21,785
it was extremely intense
and extremely hard
889
00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:23,466
and also
extremely rewarding.
Yeah.
890
00:38:23,566 --> 00:38:27,909
Everybody was just incredible
with enacting the vision I had.
891
00:38:28,009 --> 00:38:29,190
As were you.
As were you, Andy.
892
00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:30,871
Bless you.
No, but we were--
893
00:38:30,971 --> 00:38:33,593
Sometimes I was a little...
bossy.
No, no, but...
894
00:38:33,693 --> 00:38:35,474
You-- no.
"Bossy" is not the right word.
895
00:38:35,574 --> 00:38:36,835
Is it not the right word?
No.
896
00:38:36,935 --> 00:38:38,596
Good! What was it?
I think "specific."
897
00:38:38,696 --> 00:38:41,598
Okay! I love that word!
Yay.
898
00:38:41,698 --> 00:38:44,280
But I think.
899
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:49,523
the fact that we're trying
to explore a new world,
900
00:38:49,623 --> 00:38:51,405
we're sort of
world-building.
901
00:38:51,505 --> 00:38:53,686
We're not "sort of."
We are world building.
902
00:38:53,786 --> 00:38:56,568
And what I've always loved
in the show
903
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,289
is when we meet people
or strangers
904
00:38:58,389 --> 00:39:00,130
and you hear their story.
905
00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:02,212
So what I want to hear
is the bigger story
906
00:39:02,312 --> 00:39:04,293
of what's been happening
in the--
907
00:39:04,393 --> 00:39:07,295
you know, in America,
in the continent,
908
00:39:07,395 --> 00:39:09,697
while we've been
scrabbling around in the dirt.
909
00:39:09,797 --> 00:39:14,260
But also, for me, it was always
about the reason that we do this
910
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,862
is to get these two lovers
together, to tell a love story.
911
00:39:17,962 --> 00:39:21,144
Because after all,
when you're on your deathbed,
912
00:39:21,244 --> 00:39:22,625
what else is worth
talking about?
913
00:39:22,725 --> 00:39:23,986
You know what I mean?
Right, right.
914
00:39:24,086 --> 00:39:25,427
It's love, man.
Right.
915
00:39:25,527 --> 00:39:27,669
And I think that the story
began with a man
916
00:39:27,769 --> 00:39:30,350
looking for his family,
917
00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:36,274
and it finishes, potentially,
with these two lovers,
918
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,797
hopefully finding one another
and completing the circle.
919
00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:42,879
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
920
00:39:42,979 --> 00:39:49,603
♪
921
00:39:49,703 --> 00:39:56,468
♪
922
00:39:58,749 --> 00:40:08,376
♪
923
00:40:08,476 --> 00:40:18,182
♪
924
00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:28,089
♪
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