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I need a brush. 15 00:00:48,949 --> 00:00:50,884 [speaking in foreign language] 16 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:28,055 >> 1 17 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:29,490 2 18 00:01:29,523 --> 00:01:30,458 [camera clicks] 19 00:01:34,562 --> 00:01:35,996 [chickens clucking] 20 00:01:41,202 --> 00:01:44,172 >> What is General Tso's Chicken? 21 00:01:44,205 --> 00:01:45,939 General Tso's Chicken is usually -- 22 00:01:45,973 --> 00:01:47,175 >> Chicken legs. 23 00:01:47,208 --> 00:01:48,542 >> Dark meat of the chicken. 24 00:01:48,576 --> 00:01:50,043 >> Best made from dark meat. 25 00:01:50,077 --> 00:01:51,612 >> They, cut about, uh.. 26 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,881 ...inch square. 27 00:01:56,049 --> 00:01:58,018 >> Marinade that was thick white. 28 00:01:59,019 --> 00:02:01,689 Deep fried in a wok. 29 00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:03,757 And is quickly tossed in the sauce. 30 00:02:05,459 --> 00:02:07,561 Garlicky. >> Tangy. 31 00:02:07,595 --> 00:02:08,896 >> Intensive heat. 32 00:02:08,929 --> 00:02:11,064 >> With sweet intensive taste. 33 00:02:11,098 --> 00:02:13,534 >> Salty. Outside little crisp. 34 00:02:13,567 --> 00:02:14,968 Inside still tender. 35 00:02:15,002 --> 00:02:17,805 >> A glorious, sweet, fried chicken dish. 36 00:02:22,376 --> 00:02:24,312 >> I don't think that General Tso's Chicken's 37 00:02:24,345 --> 00:02:27,581 the most popular ethnic dish in the country 38 00:02:27,615 --> 00:02:29,550 only because there's pizza. 39 00:02:30,751 --> 00:02:32,085 Restaurant after restaurant 40 00:02:32,119 --> 00:02:34,121 it's become American food, almost. 41 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:39,427 My customer, they come here 7 times a week. 42 00:02:39,460 --> 00:02:41,395 Unbelievable. 43 00:02:41,429 --> 00:02:43,797 >> I can't wait to start chowing down on this. 44 00:02:48,536 --> 00:02:50,271 [speaking in foreign language] 45 00:02:51,605 --> 00:02:53,641 >> I don't know that there was a manual 46 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:56,610 for restaurateurs, but you'll find 47 00:02:56,644 --> 00:02:59,112 a random Chinese restaurant in the middle of nowhere 48 00:02:59,146 --> 00:03:01,782 and all of a sudden selling General Tso's Chicken. 49 00:03:02,783 --> 00:03:04,718 How did that happen? 50 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:24,204 [oriental music] 51 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:34,248 >> Almond chicken, walnut chicken 52 00:03:34,282 --> 00:03:36,884 Chow gai pan, which is boneless chicken 53 00:03:36,917 --> 00:03:38,552 crispy baked chicken, sesame chicken. 54 00:03:38,586 --> 00:03:42,222 Oh, there he is, the general, $10.95. 55 00:03:43,591 --> 00:03:47,595 >> In 1981, I was new to New York City 56 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:50,631 and I was alone in an apartment on the Upper Westside. 57 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:53,901 And I heard a riffle at the door 58 00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:56,337 and I thought, "Oh, great, I've been here three days 59 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:57,971 and I'm about to get robbed." 60 00:03:58,005 --> 00:04:00,908 And I peeked out from around the corner 61 00:04:00,941 --> 00:04:03,844 and saw something slide under the front door 62 00:04:03,877 --> 00:04:05,713 and few minutes later I got up the nerve 63 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:07,581 and went and looked at it and it was from 64 00:04:07,615 --> 00:04:10,718 Hunan Royal restaurant. A Chinese takeout menu. 65 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:16,524 Thus began, uh, what's now a quarter century of 66 00:04:16,557 --> 00:04:19,527 collecting Chinese restaurant memorabilia. 67 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,463 This is my Chinese restaurant memorabilia archive. 68 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:25,399 It starts up here with large format menus. 69 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:28,101 It fills these shelves. 70 00:04:28,135 --> 00:04:29,770 And these shelves. 71 00:04:29,803 --> 00:04:32,473 I have over 10,000 restaurant menus 72 00:04:32,506 --> 00:04:34,708 from all 50 United States 73 00:04:34,742 --> 00:04:37,345 from over a 100 nations around the world. 74 00:04:37,378 --> 00:04:39,580 This is my Guinness world record 75 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:43,250 for the world's largest collection of restaurant menus. 76 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:46,720 Rosticceria Chinese, a Chinese roast shop. 77 00:04:46,754 --> 00:04:48,789 For some reason in Italy 78 00:04:48,822 --> 00:04:52,192 Chinese takeout menus are squares. 79 00:04:52,225 --> 00:04:53,927 Lucky 8 Chinese restaurant 80 00:04:53,961 --> 00:04:55,463 with Bruce Lee on the cover. 81 00:04:55,496 --> 00:04:58,098 I don't think they're paying the Bruce Lee family 82 00:04:58,131 --> 00:05:00,468 any royalties, but I don't know. 83 00:05:00,501 --> 00:05:04,838 Beyond the menus I collect matchbooks, postcards 84 00:05:04,872 --> 00:05:08,442 toothpicks, chopsticks calendars, magnets 85 00:05:08,476 --> 00:05:10,644 baseball caps, T-shirts. 86 00:05:10,678 --> 00:05:13,447 Wooden Stir Fry slicing play set. 87 00:05:13,481 --> 00:05:15,749 Our son was given this when he was born 88 00:05:15,783 --> 00:05:17,751 and I stole it immediately from him 89 00:05:17,785 --> 00:05:19,853 and leave it in the package. 90 00:05:19,887 --> 00:05:21,889 You can just throw pins at this menu 91 00:05:21,922 --> 00:05:25,826 and get great stuff like fresh snake stem with bean curd slice. 92 00:05:25,859 --> 00:05:29,029 If you see on a menu, you see these little pen ticks. 93 00:05:29,062 --> 00:05:31,164 Um, most people don't see those 94 00:05:31,198 --> 00:05:32,600 but I'm a menu professional. 95 00:05:32,633 --> 00:05:35,569 A pen tick around a dish means that the waiter 96 00:05:35,603 --> 00:05:37,738 has recommended it many times. 97 00:05:38,706 --> 00:05:41,241 Menus are like mystery books. 98 00:05:41,274 --> 00:05:43,343 You know th -- they answer a lot of questions 99 00:05:43,377 --> 00:05:44,545 and they are a lot of fun to read 100 00:05:44,578 --> 00:05:47,080 but they end up asking more questions. 101 00:05:48,115 --> 00:05:50,584 The mysteries of the Orient. 102 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:54,822 I must have 15 different spellings of Tso 103 00:05:54,855 --> 00:05:56,790 in my menu collection. 104 00:06:00,628 --> 00:06:03,964 >> It's T-S-O, so it's Tso. >> How do I pronounce it again? 105 00:06:03,997 --> 00:06:05,999 >> Uh, I don't know if you say the T or not. 106 00:06:06,033 --> 00:06:09,637 I just kind of blur a bit, and that way no one really knows if I'm saying it right or not. 107 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:11,505 But I get mine over brown rice. 108 00:06:11,539 --> 00:06:13,574 It's my healthy thing for the day. 109 00:06:13,607 --> 00:06:16,744 >> Well, up in Chico they call it General Chicken. 110 00:06:16,777 --> 00:06:18,612 >> You know, it's been called, General Toes 111 00:06:18,646 --> 00:06:22,115 It's been called -- I think the naval academy calls it Admiral Toes. 112 00:06:22,149 --> 00:06:23,817 >> I feel like no matter what restaurant you go to 113 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:27,220 there's always a different spelling of General Tso, so.. 114 00:06:27,254 --> 00:06:30,223 ...so there's a lot to find about him. 115 00:06:30,257 --> 00:06:32,192 >> I haven't a clue who he is. 116 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:35,128 I guess he must've came up with the recipe himself. 117 00:06:35,162 --> 00:06:38,165 >> I think he was a -- a general in the Chinese army 118 00:06:38,198 --> 00:06:40,634 who died during the time of Chairman Mao or something 119 00:06:40,668 --> 00:06:43,403 and that was his favorite dish and they named it after him. 120 00:06:43,437 --> 00:06:46,940 >> He, uh, had his private chef cook this dish, you know? 121 00:06:46,974 --> 00:06:48,909 Uh, even when he went to battle. 122 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:52,780 >> I don't think it was a dish that was made for that general. 123 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:56,584 Maybe it was made in honor of him a 100 years after his death. 124 00:06:56,617 --> 00:06:59,720 >> I think they just named it because it sounds exotic 125 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:01,989 after somebody nobody's ever heard of. 126 00:07:02,022 --> 00:07:05,025 >> I imagine General Tso as almost 127 00:07:05,058 --> 00:07:08,796 a bearded Mongolian warrior, who's on a horse for sure 128 00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:10,864 riding wildly. 129 00:07:10,898 --> 00:07:13,300 >> He's a general, so he obviously has a hat. 130 00:07:13,333 --> 00:07:15,302 And he has a military uniform. 131 00:07:15,335 --> 00:07:17,104 But maybe it's bulging a little bit 132 00:07:17,137 --> 00:07:19,507 because he's so chubby from eating all that chicken. 133 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:24,011 >> Beautiful armor, you know, with jade maybe and gold pieces. 134 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:26,246 He probably looks kind of fancy 135 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:28,649 with an army of thousands. 136 00:07:28,682 --> 00:07:31,919 >> Did he love chicken? We don't know. 137 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:33,487 Nobody knows. 138 00:07:41,128 --> 00:07:43,063 [oriental music] 139 00:07:52,573 --> 00:07:54,508 [toys squealing] 140 00:07:57,545 --> 00:08:00,480 >> I know that the general's name is a Chinese name. 141 00:08:00,514 --> 00:08:02,816 I can say it if I knew what it was. 142 00:08:02,850 --> 00:08:05,786 [speaking in foreign language] 143 00:08:08,956 --> 00:08:10,390 "Zuo Zong ji" 144 00:08:10,423 --> 00:08:14,061 or they also say it "Zuo Zongtang ji." 145 00:08:14,094 --> 00:08:16,329 I've only eaten it when I would have 146 00:08:16,363 --> 00:08:18,966 American-Chinese takeout when I was little. 147 00:08:18,999 --> 00:08:20,934 I was surprised, I have to say 148 00:08:20,968 --> 00:08:26,039 that I haven't seen it directly on a menu in China. 149 00:08:26,073 --> 00:08:28,008 [instrumental music] 150 00:08:33,981 --> 00:08:35,916 [speaking in foreign language] 151 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:43,456 [speaking in foreign language] 152 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:48,862 [speaking in foreign language] 153 00:08:51,231 --> 00:08:53,433 [speaking in foreign language] 154 00:08:53,466 --> 00:08:54,401 [laughs] 155 00:08:57,237 --> 00:08:58,171 [music continues] 156 00:09:00,708 --> 00:09:02,643 [speaking in foreign language] 157 00:09:15,355 --> 00:09:17,290 [speaking in foreign language] 158 00:09:24,965 --> 00:09:26,900 [instrumental music] 159 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:37,110 [speaking in foreign language] 160 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:10,477 [speaking in foreign language] 161 00:10:30,864 --> 00:10:32,800 [speaking in foreign language] 162 00:10:38,806 --> 00:10:40,741 [speaking in foreign language] 163 00:10:45,178 --> 00:10:47,114 [speaking in foreign language] 164 00:11:13,974 --> 00:11:15,909 [speaking in foreign language] 165 00:11:34,962 --> 00:11:36,897 [speaking in foreign language] 166 00:11:53,313 --> 00:11:55,248 [speaking in foreign language] 167 00:12:02,589 --> 00:12:04,524 [speaking in foreign language] 168 00:12:23,944 --> 00:12:27,614 >> General Tso was a 19th century general 169 00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:30,517 in the Qing Dynasty. 170 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:33,620 And helped put down the Taiping Rebellion 171 00:12:33,653 --> 00:12:36,189 uh, which was a great pheasant rebellion. 172 00:12:36,223 --> 00:12:38,158 [war cries] 173 00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:40,861 >> He was a great patriot. 174 00:12:40,894 --> 00:12:42,963 He had tremendous loyalty from his men. 175 00:12:44,331 --> 00:12:46,633 He was obviously a very intelligent 176 00:12:46,666 --> 00:12:48,869 and strategically sophisticated person. 177 00:12:48,902 --> 00:12:52,105 And also, I think, ruthless. 178 00:12:52,139 --> 00:12:55,075 Zuo Zongtang was very much part of that mentality 179 00:12:55,108 --> 00:13:00,647 of trying to strengthen China and maintain Chinese values. 180 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:02,249 >> General Tso played a critical role 181 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:05,352 in keeping together what is now modern-day China. 182 00:13:05,385 --> 00:13:07,654 At that point, there was truly a threat 183 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:10,090 you know, during the age of colonization. 184 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:15,963 And he always wanted to keep the westerners out of China. 185 00:13:15,996 --> 00:13:20,133 So if you told General Tso that this dish was named after him 186 00:13:20,167 --> 00:13:22,302 I think he'd raise his eyebrows. 187 00:13:24,337 --> 00:13:26,739 >> General Tso's Chicken, it's a very sweet dish. 188 00:13:26,773 --> 00:13:27,841 And the Hunanese 189 00:13:27,875 --> 00:13:29,676 although they have some sweet dishes 190 00:13:29,709 --> 00:13:32,913 they don't really like mixing sweet and savory foods. 191 00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:37,517 So not only have people not really heard of it 192 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:39,386 but, um, it's not really the kind of flavor 193 00:13:39,419 --> 00:13:41,188 they'd like to eat anyway. 194 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:43,156 [speaking in foreign language] 195 00:13:56,403 --> 00:13:58,338 [instrumental music] 196 00:14:02,575 --> 00:14:04,511 [speaking in foreign language] 197 00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:20,493 [knives swish] 198 00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:24,764 [ship horn blowing] 199 00:14:26,666 --> 00:14:28,601 [seagulls squawking] 200 00:14:29,502 --> 00:14:31,438 [instrumental music] 201 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:42,950 [chuckling] >> I have no idea. 202 00:14:42,983 --> 00:14:44,617 We don't have a file on General Tso 203 00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:46,586 at the Chinese Historical Society. 204 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:51,591 It's amazing to me how a pattern developed. 205 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:54,027 Did several people have the same idea at the same time? 206 00:14:54,061 --> 00:14:55,828 I mean, it cropped up in different places. 207 00:14:55,862 --> 00:14:57,797 East Coast, West Coast, you know. 208 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:02,035 So this map gives you the number 209 00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:04,337 according to the 2010 census 210 00:15:04,371 --> 00:15:06,539 of Chinese 211 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,875 in every state of the union. 212 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:14,247 Chinese are 1% of the US population 213 00:15:14,281 --> 00:15:17,084 which is a drop in the bucket. 214 00:15:17,117 --> 00:15:21,554 Yet, probably most Americans have eaten Chinese food. 215 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:24,691 So how do you explain that? 216 00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:26,994 And how many have eaten General Tso's Chicken? 217 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:35,468 >> Even though there's now General Tso's Chicken 218 00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:37,470 in restaurants coast to coast 219 00:15:37,504 --> 00:15:40,807 there was a time when Chinese food 220 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,176 was completely new to America. 221 00:15:46,579 --> 00:15:50,350 >> The biggest reason Chinese began to come to the US 222 00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:53,220 was the California gold rush of the 1850s. 223 00:16:00,127 --> 00:16:03,930 The early Chinese are primarily Cantonese. 224 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:06,299 Chinese in the Guangdong area 225 00:16:06,333 --> 00:16:08,735 started coming to California in droves 226 00:16:08,768 --> 00:16:11,704 through the port of San Francisco. 227 00:16:11,738 --> 00:16:14,541 And the Chinese quarter got more and more crowded. 228 00:16:18,045 --> 00:16:21,781 >> For Americans, the Chinese were the space aliens. 229 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:25,352 They had their hair in long braids called Queues. 230 00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:28,921 They eat with sticks, not with forks. 231 00:16:28,955 --> 00:16:32,092 And Americans were sort of amazed by Chinese food 232 00:16:32,125 --> 00:16:34,294 but also little bit repulsed by it. 233 00:16:35,528 --> 00:16:39,499 >> The mainstream audience saw Chinese food 234 00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:41,434 as scary, you know. 235 00:16:41,468 --> 00:16:44,037 I mean, they thought of -- they had ideas in their head 236 00:16:44,071 --> 00:16:47,440 about Chinese people eating rats and things like that 237 00:16:47,474 --> 00:16:49,309 and so you really were risking something 238 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:52,245 when you went into Chinatown. 239 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:54,047 The white authorities saw it 240 00:16:54,081 --> 00:16:56,983 as a quarter of vice and slums 241 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:59,219 and prostitution and opium dens 242 00:16:59,252 --> 00:17:02,389 and they said, "Let us rid," uh, you know 243 00:17:02,422 --> 00:17:04,357 "San Francisco of it's Chinatown." 244 00:17:06,093 --> 00:17:09,629 >> They saw the Chinese as the competition. 245 00:17:09,662 --> 00:17:13,633 "The Chinese must go," was the slogan that a lot of them used. 246 00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:15,235 >> There were laws that were put in place 247 00:17:15,268 --> 00:17:19,606 that would make it legal to prosecute violence 248 00:17:19,639 --> 00:17:23,009 against Chinese, and, of course 249 00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:26,346 this culminated in the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act. 250 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:32,652 >> 1882, the law was passed and it made it difficult 251 00:17:32,685 --> 00:17:34,921 for anyone except for few people 252 00:17:34,954 --> 00:17:39,559 in protected classes to, uh, come to this country. 253 00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,329 Uh, made it particularly difficult for women 254 00:17:42,362 --> 00:17:43,996 uh, to arrive. 255 00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:48,868 >> The whole idea of these laws 256 00:17:48,901 --> 00:17:52,939 is to somehow stave off this generation. 257 00:17:52,972 --> 00:17:55,875 >> They would have white mobs comi communitiesheir 258 00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:57,810 burning them out, tossing their stuff 259 00:17:57,844 --> 00:17:59,646 out on to streets. 260 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:01,114 There's a quote, it said 261 00:18:01,148 --> 00:18:03,750 "They say exclusion, but they mean extermination." 262 00:18:05,985 --> 00:18:10,623 >> The Exclusion Act basically forced them out of labor. 263 00:18:10,657 --> 00:18:13,493 And so they have to be self-employed. 264 00:18:13,526 --> 00:18:16,095 And this is where two very important professions 265 00:18:16,129 --> 00:18:17,697 came in being. 266 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,532 One is providing laundry 267 00:18:19,566 --> 00:18:22,869 and one is providing food. 268 00:18:22,902 --> 00:18:25,438 >> Restaurant work was one of the few jobs 269 00:18:25,472 --> 00:18:27,707 that the Chinese could find. 270 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,809 And Chinese restaurant owners discovered 271 00:18:29,842 --> 00:18:32,078 that if they adapted simple dishes 272 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:35,682 to American taste that they could make money. 273 00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:39,018 [knives swish] 274 00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:44,924 [Oriental music] 275 00:18:53,233 --> 00:18:56,569 >> Hey, how you doin' today? Is it wet and cold out there? 276 00:18:56,603 --> 00:18:59,306 >> It's startin' to sprinkle. >> Oh, man. 277 00:18:59,339 --> 00:19:01,941 Wish it would have rained a little while earlier. 278 00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:04,911 [speaking in foreign language] 279 00:19:09,015 --> 00:19:14,221 >> Believe it or not, she says she doesn't eat it. So.. 280 00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:17,857 My name is Harlan Lee and, uh, we are at 281 00:19:17,890 --> 00:19:20,827 Sing High Chop Suey house here in Phoenix, Arizona. 282 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:22,562 And, uh, this is my mother. 283 00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:25,732 She is the senior partner of Sing High. 284 00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:28,301 [speaking in foreign language] 285 00:19:28,335 --> 00:19:31,271 >> My name, uh...Ella Lee. 286 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:36,743 >> My grandfather opened Sing High, uh, in 1928 287 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:38,878 in downtown Phoenix. 288 00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:42,649 You know, Chinese food was not that popular here yet. 289 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:45,051 I mean, if you looked at our business 290 00:19:45,084 --> 00:19:47,620 we've changed our menus based on 291 00:19:47,654 --> 00:19:50,290 the demands and the tastes of the people around us. 292 00:19:54,827 --> 00:19:58,197 >> This awareness of having to make yourself 293 00:19:58,231 --> 00:20:00,600 acceptable to a wider world 294 00:20:00,633 --> 00:20:04,237 was very much on the minds of Chinese restaurants. 295 00:20:04,271 --> 00:20:06,239 Even then, I mean, at that early time 296 00:20:06,273 --> 00:20:09,442 they had experienced outrageous racism. 297 00:20:09,476 --> 00:20:13,280 And to deal with it they got pretty savvy 298 00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:15,815 I mean, all kinds of dishes frying up 299 00:20:15,848 --> 00:20:17,950 that would appeal to white audiences. 300 00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:28,461 >> You know, chop suey is, simply means, you know 301 00:20:28,495 --> 00:20:31,964 just bits and pieces of different things. 302 00:20:31,998 --> 00:20:34,301 It's very, very obvious that it caters 303 00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:37,337 to the more Americanized palate. 304 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:39,005 >> Chop suey is basically two things. 305 00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:42,074 One it's a meat, like pork or chicken or beef. 306 00:20:42,108 --> 00:20:44,176 So all meats that Americans recognize 307 00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:47,614 accompanied by sort of these exotic vegetables 308 00:20:47,647 --> 00:20:51,351 which are cool, but very much flavorless. 309 00:20:55,955 --> 00:20:59,359 >> I -- I don't come in my collection every day. 310 00:21:00,827 --> 00:21:02,762 And -- and look and -- and.. 311 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:06,999 This is from the age of chop suey. 312 00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:10,670 This is a replica of one of the oldest menus in my collection 313 00:21:10,703 --> 00:21:13,072 It's from 1916. 314 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,508 Uh, and I don't handle the original 315 00:21:15,542 --> 00:21:17,944 'cause it's crump -- crink.. It's falling apart. 316 00:21:17,977 --> 00:21:19,912 It's -- it's very, very old. 317 00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:24,884 Chop suey is 15 cents, 30 cents, 25 cents. 318 00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:29,722 I don't think the general was part of that scene. 319 00:21:29,756 --> 00:21:33,693 You could get steak with mushrooms, was 40 cents. 320 00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:36,896 But how you know that a menu is from 1916? 321 00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:39,332 Scrapbooks, where people 322 00:21:39,366 --> 00:21:42,402 had this quote-unquote "exotic meal" 323 00:21:42,435 --> 00:21:46,773 and saved the menu as a souvenir. 324 00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:49,308 >> They would have, you know, menus 325 00:21:49,342 --> 00:21:50,977 steaks or whatever potatoes. 326 00:21:51,010 --> 00:21:53,813 And yet they would have chop suey on the menu. 327 00:21:53,846 --> 00:21:55,815 And so it's this mash up 328 00:21:55,848 --> 00:21:58,217 of being kind of exotic and kind of unfamiliar 329 00:21:58,250 --> 00:21:59,986 but not too different. 330 00:22:00,019 --> 00:22:02,088 You know, it's that foreign yet familiar thing 331 00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:05,792 that was the real beginning of what 332 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:08,828 Chinese-American cuisine was. 333 00:22:08,861 --> 00:22:10,997 It was a way in for people. 334 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,370 >> I do vividly recall I was 18 years old 335 00:22:17,404 --> 00:22:21,173 and got off a Greyhound bus from Dayton, Ohio. 336 00:22:21,207 --> 00:22:24,677 Got in late at night, saw the neon signs. 337 00:22:24,711 --> 00:22:27,480 The first thing I ordered when I got off the bus 338 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:28,781 was chop suey. 339 00:22:28,815 --> 00:22:32,452 >> I've been eatin' in here for, well, since the '50s. 340 00:22:32,485 --> 00:22:34,854 >> Quite frankly I didn't know what I was eating. 341 00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:36,923 They've served this food forever. 342 00:22:36,956 --> 00:22:40,059 It's just been very popular in Flagstaff. 343 00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:44,230 >> I knew Fred's dad and his uncles. 344 00:22:44,263 --> 00:22:46,499 Same here, Gina. Haven't seen you in a long time. 345 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:47,900 >> I know. 346 00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:49,869 [laughing] 347 00:22:52,204 --> 00:22:54,173 >> This right here is a postcard 348 00:22:54,206 --> 00:22:55,675 of the restaurant 349 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,677 back in, probably, the '50s, you know. 350 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:59,646 My dad started the restaurant. 351 00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:03,282 Half of my orders is Chinese food 352 00:23:03,315 --> 00:23:04,884 and the other half, American food 353 00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:06,753 steaks, fried chicken. 354 00:23:08,488 --> 00:23:10,423 This is clubhouse sandwich. 355 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:15,828 Big sandwich. 356 00:23:19,632 --> 00:23:22,168 >> All of a sudden, in Chinatowns all over 357 00:23:22,201 --> 00:23:24,504 you would find these huge neon signs 358 00:23:24,537 --> 00:23:26,473 advertising chop suey. 359 00:23:29,442 --> 00:23:32,044 >> Chop suey became a national phenomenon. 360 00:23:32,078 --> 00:23:34,113 It basically allowed for the proliferation 361 00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:35,482 of Chinese restaurants 362 00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:37,917 all across United States into little towns. 363 00:23:37,950 --> 00:23:41,020 And in a way it sort of laid the groundwork for 364 00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:42,989 what was yet to come. 365 00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:48,595 >> Chinese are very enterprising people. 366 00:23:48,628 --> 00:23:49,562 So.. 367 00:23:51,631 --> 00:23:54,033 ...I think anywhere in the world where they can find a place 368 00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:56,636 to put a restaurant they will do it. 369 00:23:56,669 --> 00:23:58,605 [instrumental music] 370 00:24:08,347 --> 00:24:11,350 >> If you were to look at a map of the US in 1850 371 00:24:11,383 --> 00:24:13,886 you would find all of the Chinese 372 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,622 in California. 373 00:24:16,989 --> 00:24:18,257 Then over time 374 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,293 after 1882, the Exclusion era 375 00:24:21,327 --> 00:24:24,664 they began a very pronounced migration 376 00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:28,034 into sparsely populated counties 377 00:24:28,067 --> 00:24:29,869 all across the country. 378 00:24:29,902 --> 00:24:33,606 Midwest, East and even the South. 379 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,808 One of the motivations for the dispersion 380 00:24:35,842 --> 00:24:39,311 was to escape persecution on the West Coast 381 00:24:39,345 --> 00:24:42,515 and earn a living in a safer environment. 382 00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:47,319 But the major reason was an effort to find employment 383 00:24:47,353 --> 00:24:50,823 uh, in a way that didn't compete with other Chinese. 384 00:24:56,596 --> 00:24:58,731 >> My restaurant's name's Golden Dragon. 385 00:24:58,765 --> 00:25:01,500 We are the only Chinese restaurant in town. 386 00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:04,470 We are the only Chinese family in town. 387 00:25:09,609 --> 00:25:13,012 It's hard, you know, to stay in a small town. 388 00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:15,047 A lot of people think I'm crazy. 389 00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:18,585 One of my -- lots of my friends, my family. 390 00:25:18,618 --> 00:25:21,187 But I like it in this town. 391 00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:24,456 When we first come, this restaurant want to sell. 392 00:25:24,490 --> 00:25:27,359 So we just came, we see it, and we think 393 00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:31,263 "Oh, yeah, that -- that good for a family," you know. 394 00:25:31,297 --> 00:25:33,132 And then we have kids. 395 00:25:33,165 --> 00:25:35,434 1, 2, 3, 4. We got 4 kids. 396 00:25:35,467 --> 00:25:37,203 But for me it's okay. 397 00:25:37,236 --> 00:25:40,807 You know, somebody when tell me, tell me 398 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,442 "I always travel from New York to San Francisco. 399 00:25:43,475 --> 00:25:46,312 You are the best!" 400 00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:49,048 They drive me -- Makes me so happy, you know. 401 00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:52,985 [instrumental music] 402 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,293 >> Hmm. 403 00:26:02,461 --> 00:26:04,130 I am David R. Chan. 404 00:26:04,163 --> 00:26:07,166 I am a tax attorney and certified public accountant. 405 00:26:07,199 --> 00:26:09,301 And in my spare time, I like to 406 00:26:09,335 --> 00:26:11,604 uh, eat at different Chinese restaurants. 407 00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:14,641 And over the years, I've managed to eat at 408 00:26:14,674 --> 00:26:17,076 over 6000 different Chinese restaurants. 409 00:26:17,109 --> 00:26:19,045 [camera clicks] 410 00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:23,482 Rice noodle in clay pot. 411 00:26:23,515 --> 00:26:26,485 I don't know, I'm not sure if that's enough for us. 412 00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:28,655 Maybe we should add a couple more items. 413 00:26:28,688 --> 00:26:30,189 Steamed chicken buns? 414 00:26:30,222 --> 00:26:32,324 I never thought of that as a dessert. 415 00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:35,828 Here we have some, uh, curry fish balls. 416 00:26:35,862 --> 00:26:39,498 Rice pancakes with minced beef stuffing. 417 00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:42,802 You know, if somebody asks me why I travel all over 418 00:26:42,835 --> 00:26:45,772 to seek Chinese restaurants to eat at 419 00:26:45,805 --> 00:26:50,710 it's really part of a, uh, seeking of an identity. 420 00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:54,714 And to see where, as a Chinese-American, how 421 00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:59,719 you know, how that fits in with the overall American culture. 422 00:26:59,752 --> 00:27:01,387 I started to notice 423 00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:04,290 most Americanized Chinese restaurants 424 00:27:04,323 --> 00:27:06,959 they have names that would be not threatening 425 00:27:06,993 --> 00:27:11,263 to the local population, like Golden Palace or China Inn. 426 00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:13,465 I don't know how many China Inns there are. 427 00:27:13,499 --> 00:27:15,567 Some restaurant names 428 00:27:15,601 --> 00:27:19,505 people just don't quite understand what the words mean. 429 00:27:19,538 --> 00:27:21,340 So for example, I mean, in New York Chinatown 430 00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:23,409 there's a restaurant called Strange Taste. 431 00:27:23,442 --> 00:27:25,678 Well, I mean, would you really wanna go 432 00:27:25,712 --> 00:27:28,748 to the Strange Taste Restaurant? 433 00:27:28,781 --> 00:27:30,282 I noticed even when I was a kid 434 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:32,484 whenever we traveled anywhere in the country 435 00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:34,620 there was one Chinese restaurant 436 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,555 at least one Chinese restaurant in any city 437 00:27:36,588 --> 00:27:38,524 of any particular size. 438 00:27:38,557 --> 00:27:40,492 Actually what happened is 439 00:27:40,526 --> 00:27:43,062 the Regional Chinese Association 440 00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:45,031 basically assigned territories. 441 00:27:46,532 --> 00:27:48,801 Even to this day, if you go to Chinatowns 442 00:27:48,835 --> 00:27:51,738 you'll see a lot of buildings that say 443 00:27:51,771 --> 00:27:53,472 you know, Wong Association 444 00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:55,641 or, you know, Fujian Association. 445 00:28:03,850 --> 00:28:06,685 >> All the takeout restaurants sell these dishes. 446 00:28:06,719 --> 00:28:07,754 Everywhere. 447 00:28:07,787 --> 00:28:09,221 Everywhere. 448 00:28:09,255 --> 00:28:10,522 You know, I know. 449 00:28:10,556 --> 00:28:12,691 I'm in charge of this organization. 450 00:28:12,725 --> 00:28:16,863 This is one of the oldest organization in Chinatown. 451 00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:18,664 We are 130 years here. 452 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,535 This is the first step, you know. 453 00:28:23,569 --> 00:28:26,272 A lot of the new immigrant they just come here 454 00:28:26,305 --> 00:28:28,307 and if the organization can help them 455 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:31,543 to set up the business in a proper way. 456 00:28:31,577 --> 00:28:32,979 I mean, register them. 457 00:28:33,012 --> 00:28:35,247 They teach you how to cook step by step. 458 00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:42,721 >> Chinese restaurant owners, uh, to a great extent 459 00:28:42,755 --> 00:28:46,859 relied on the traditional Chinese networks. 460 00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:50,797 Family associations, district associations. 461 00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:55,001 They would get information about the popular dishes 462 00:28:55,034 --> 00:28:57,770 to help each other in a strange place. 463 00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:03,943 [speaking in foreign language] 464 00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:28,367 >> It's not easy to settle here in Chinatown. 465 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,136 Because the rent is high. 466 00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:32,905 The organization gives you some information 467 00:29:32,939 --> 00:29:36,608 where to go, which state or which town is better. 468 00:29:36,642 --> 00:29:39,145 That's why they spread out. All over in the country. 469 00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:42,114 [instrumental music] 470 00:30:00,332 --> 00:30:04,370 In a lot of the smaller town, it's very lonely. 471 00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:07,874 Because they have no relatives, no entertainment there. 472 00:30:07,907 --> 00:30:09,708 No place to go. They don't understand. 473 00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:11,911 They don't speak English that well. 474 00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:13,980 And then sometimes they have some trouble. 475 00:30:17,083 --> 00:30:18,017 [mooing] 476 00:30:21,587 --> 00:30:24,190 >> I'm not exactly sure where General Tso's Chicken 477 00:30:24,223 --> 00:30:26,058 originated from, but I do know 478 00:30:26,092 --> 00:30:28,027 where cashew chicken came from. 479 00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:34,934 [speaking with thick accent] 480 00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:40,139 >> Pensacola, Florida. 481 00:30:49,916 --> 00:30:54,453 >> My father came over from Canton, China in 1940. 482 00:30:54,486 --> 00:30:56,989 A famous physician tried my dad's cooking 483 00:30:57,023 --> 00:30:59,291 and loved it and asked him if he'd be willing 484 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:01,560 to move to Springfield, Missouri. 485 00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:04,163 During that time my dad opened up his own restaurant 486 00:31:04,196 --> 00:31:08,234 for a while, and he was not very accepted. 487 00:31:08,267 --> 00:31:10,169 He had people picketing his restaurant 488 00:31:10,202 --> 00:31:11,870 protesting his restaurant. 489 00:31:11,904 --> 00:31:13,839 "Go back to China." Things like that. 490 00:31:15,541 --> 00:31:18,777 Actually our restaurant was blown up before we opened. 491 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:20,779 It was bombed. 492 00:31:20,812 --> 00:31:23,983 There was a lot of prejudice about a Chinese person 493 00:31:24,016 --> 00:31:26,885 owning a business here in Springfield, Missouri. 494 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:28,955 What won, uh, the people over though was 495 00:31:28,988 --> 00:31:31,958 once they started eating the food they loved it. 496 00:31:31,991 --> 00:31:35,694 He knew that in the Midwest, people like comfort food. 497 00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:37,529 They love their food fried. 498 00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:39,531 What he did was, he, uh 499 00:31:39,565 --> 00:31:41,867 took off the bones on a fried chicken 500 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,571 deep fried it and put a brown gravy sauce over it. 501 00:31:45,604 --> 00:31:48,440 Hence, that's how he came up with cashew chicken. 502 00:31:48,474 --> 00:31:50,776 And it just took off like wild fire. 503 00:31:52,878 --> 00:31:54,646 There's over a couple of hundred restaurants 504 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,483 just in the Springfield area now that serve cashew chicken. 505 00:32:03,489 --> 00:32:05,824 >> There's a little story about the cashew chicken. 506 00:32:05,857 --> 00:32:09,028 Late '60s or early '70s, McDonald's Corporation 507 00:32:09,061 --> 00:32:11,130 actually came to see how the technique 508 00:32:11,163 --> 00:32:13,665 was to bread and fry the chicken nuggets 509 00:32:13,699 --> 00:32:15,968 and they wanted my dad's recipes and.. 510 00:32:16,002 --> 00:32:17,303 But they didn't wanna pay for it. 511 00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:20,939 My dad's, "Well, I'm not gonna give it to you." 512 00:32:20,973 --> 00:32:22,808 A year later, Chicken McNuggets come out. 513 00:32:22,841 --> 00:32:26,212 So, you know, tell me is that a coincidence or what? 514 00:32:26,245 --> 00:32:29,715 I, uh, I tend to think that, you know, they owe me royalty. 515 00:32:31,117 --> 00:32:32,318 Now, I'll show you 516 00:32:32,351 --> 00:32:35,287 the General Tso's Chicken that we do. 517 00:32:35,321 --> 00:32:38,724 We use the same chicken nuggets we use on the cashew chicken. 518 00:32:43,195 --> 00:32:46,198 People ask me, "Wing, do you think you'll be frying chicken 519 00:32:46,232 --> 00:32:48,400 till the end of your life?" 520 00:32:48,434 --> 00:32:50,669 I said, "I probably will." 521 00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:54,540 Even when I'm dead I'll be frying chicken. 522 00:32:54,573 --> 00:32:58,244 >> Cashew chicken really hit upon this formula. 523 00:32:58,277 --> 00:33:03,549 It was chicken, it was fried, and there was sauce. 524 00:33:03,582 --> 00:33:06,885 >> Interesting thing about Springfield cashew chicken 525 00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:10,322 is the fact that it's kind of mind boggling to find 526 00:33:10,356 --> 00:33:16,328 a Chinese dish becoming so widespread, popular 527 00:33:16,362 --> 00:33:18,364 in an area which has virtually 528 00:33:18,397 --> 00:33:22,168 no Chinese population of its own. 529 00:33:22,201 --> 00:33:23,702 >> Springfield cashew chicken 530 00:33:23,735 --> 00:33:26,605 it's not a traditional Chinese food. 531 00:33:26,638 --> 00:33:28,907 It's something that's Americanized. 532 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:32,211 And one thing that most of the immigrants from China 533 00:33:32,244 --> 00:33:34,580 have learned is to adapt. 534 00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:56,402 >> My brothers and I were born in Hong Kong. 535 00:33:56,435 --> 00:33:58,170 We are a family of 5 boys 536 00:33:58,204 --> 00:34:01,340 and my father passed away when I was 5 years old. 537 00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:03,675 So my mom was widowed with 5 boys in Hong Kong. 538 00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:05,711 She didn't see much future there. 539 00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:07,879 When we first opened up in Hammond 540 00:34:07,913 --> 00:34:09,515 we were the only Chinese family there. 541 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:12,451 And it's a smaller town. It was kinda.. 542 00:34:12,484 --> 00:34:14,786 It was culture shock, it was kinda unique. 543 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,394 >> Well, I'm gonna get to that because Dr. Fanning 544 00:34:22,428 --> 00:34:25,797 who's with us today is here from Albuquerque. 545 00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:27,999 So I was explaining, I was givin' him the history. 546 00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:31,337 What they did was blend 547 00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:34,706 the best of Louisiana with the best of Chinese. 548 00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:36,575 It is divine. 549 00:34:36,608 --> 00:34:38,210 It is divine. 550 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:44,416 >> Wherever you go you know you not cook for yourself. 551 00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:47,653 You gotta cook for what the local people like. 552 00:34:47,686 --> 00:34:50,456 >> It's alligator leg. This is a baby alligator. 553 00:34:51,457 --> 00:34:52,891 So it's sweet and sour. 554 00:34:52,924 --> 00:34:56,628 You know, I do flounder, cod fish, alligator. 555 00:34:57,529 --> 00:34:59,097 Chinese gumbo! 556 00:34:59,131 --> 00:35:00,666 Louisiana Chinese gumbo. 557 00:35:05,304 --> 00:35:08,006 >> This lady came and said, "Oh, eve -- every Sunday 558 00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:11,143 "my dad used to take us after church and eat Chinese food." 559 00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:13,345 And, "Can you make it for me?" I said, "Yeah, just tell me what it was." 560 00:35:13,379 --> 00:35:15,881 I walked back by the table and she had the biggest smile on her face. 561 00:35:15,914 --> 00:35:19,185 She said, "Oh, yeah, this is just like I remember with my dad on Sundays." 562 00:35:19,218 --> 00:35:21,753 I said, "You know, I'm -- I'm thinkin', ain't this ironic 563 00:35:21,787 --> 00:35:24,089 "that Chinese food has become comfort food? 564 00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:26,692 That, um, it replaced meatloaf and fried chicken?" 565 00:35:29,261 --> 00:35:32,198 [Oriental music] 566 00:35:41,507 --> 00:35:44,142 >> I was growing up in Saratoga, New York. 567 00:35:44,176 --> 00:35:47,379 And we were an orthodox Jewish family. 568 00:35:47,413 --> 00:35:49,981 We would go, um, a couple of times a year 569 00:35:50,015 --> 00:35:51,617 to a restaurant in Schenectady 570 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:54,520 called Lum Fung's, a Chinese restaurant. 571 00:35:54,553 --> 00:35:56,422 I remember my mother would always order 572 00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:58,390 uh, shrimp with lobster sauce. 573 00:35:58,424 --> 00:36:02,794 My father would look at this as just abominable. 574 00:36:02,828 --> 00:36:05,231 And my dad who's still alive, he's 95 575 00:36:05,264 --> 00:36:07,599 would never eat pork or shellfish. 576 00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:12,471 Then we get these egg rolls and I'd say what are these little brown bits in it? 577 00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:15,941 And then his comment was, "Well, if you can't identify it, it's okay to eat." 578 00:36:15,974 --> 00:36:18,477 And I always thought that, it's called, "safe-treif." 579 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:20,078 "Treif" meaning forbidden. 580 00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:23,682 And for years, I thought that was actually Rabbinical statement. 581 00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:26,285 Until I asked a few rabbis' and they said, "No, no, no 582 00:36:26,318 --> 00:36:28,587 "if you can't identify it, absolutely don't eat it." 583 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:35,661 >> I can't remember which year, you know, it was Christmas day, when I open. 584 00:36:35,694 --> 00:36:37,263 >> Wow! >> Yeah. 585 00:36:37,296 --> 00:36:40,031 >> Over 90% of Jewish people. 586 00:36:40,065 --> 00:36:44,236 They say, "Jewish people either Christmas or Thanksgiving." 587 00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:45,371 >> It's Christmas, yeah. 588 00:36:45,404 --> 00:36:47,506 >> Only-only Chinese food and the movie. 589 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,541 >> There's an old joke that.. 590 00:36:49,575 --> 00:36:53,279 ...Jews have been around for well over 5,000 years 591 00:36:53,312 --> 00:36:57,716 and the Chinese culture has been around for -- for a bit over 4,000 years. 592 00:36:57,749 --> 00:37:03,088 Which means that, there's been about 1,500 years that Jews had to survive without Chinese food. 593 00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:05,891 [instrumental music] 594 00:37:05,924 --> 00:37:08,660 Lot of Jews just wanted to become Americanized. 595 00:37:08,694 --> 00:37:11,162 Part of that is going out to Chinese restaurants. 596 00:37:12,831 --> 00:37:16,368 >> We ate Chinese food growing up once a month on a Sunday night. 597 00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:18,136 My mom's from Brooklyn. 598 00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:21,840 And we're Jewish and that was a Jewish thing. 599 00:37:21,873 --> 00:37:24,843 I -- I met Sandy Koufax this past summer. 600 00:37:24,876 --> 00:37:26,745 He liked Chinese food too. 601 00:37:26,778 --> 00:37:29,581 >> I ate two ethnic foods as a child. 602 00:37:29,615 --> 00:37:33,485 Uh, well, I ate some Jewish food from my grandmother. 603 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:36,988 But clearly when we wanted to go out for something different. 604 00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:39,991 Chinese food was at the top of the list. 605 00:37:40,025 --> 00:37:41,827 >> It's part of the American tradition now 606 00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:43,795 to go to Chinese restaurants. 607 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:48,266 >> I'm from a small town in Montana. Missoula, Montana. 608 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:52,003 And I remember going to, you know the pink and the red boots 609 00:37:52,037 --> 00:37:58,444 with the neon and getting the...um, white takeout boxes with the fortune cookies. 610 00:37:58,477 --> 00:38:01,880 >> We had a favorite Chinese restaurants, it was called "Wai-Wai." 611 00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:04,516 W-A-I, W-A-I. "Wai-Wai." 612 00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:06,652 And it was about, maybe about a mile? 613 00:38:06,685 --> 00:38:08,186 >> From -- from the house. >> Not even. 614 00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:10,356 >> Yeah! We were there a lot. >> Yeah, yeah. 615 00:38:10,389 --> 00:38:13,325 >> They had the best Chinese buffet you ever had. 616 00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:16,294 >> Mom doesn't wanna cook, "Oh, let's call in for Chinese." 617 00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:19,931 It's fast, it's easy and you don't have to do any dishes. 618 00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:22,267 'Cause everything is right there for you. 619 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,403 They even throw in the plastic forks. So.. 620 00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:25,371 [chuckles] 621 00:38:26,872 --> 00:38:29,875 >> For Americans this small restaurant 622 00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:34,245 where the lone Chinese family lives 623 00:38:34,279 --> 00:38:38,384 is their invitation into the world...of Chinese culture. 624 00:38:38,417 --> 00:38:40,018 Even though it is.. 625 00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:42,654 ...as American as anything else. 626 00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:43,955 [machine whirring] 627 00:38:52,297 --> 00:38:54,733 >> This is one of the tradition. 628 00:38:54,766 --> 00:38:57,769 That lasted for more than 100 years in.. 629 00:38:57,803 --> 00:38:59,905 ...in United States. 630 00:38:59,938 --> 00:39:02,140 People when they go to a Chinese restaurant 631 00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:05,644 expect that, after the dinner, they'll have dessert. 632 00:39:05,677 --> 00:39:08,447 And also they can see the fortunes. 633 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,985 We have some freelance writers to help us to write, some students help us to write. 634 00:39:14,019 --> 00:39:19,991 Nowadays, we have more than 10,000 pieces of message in our database. 635 00:39:20,025 --> 00:39:23,862 I used to say that, I've never seen a fortune cookie...uh, in China. 636 00:39:23,895 --> 00:39:25,764 [instrumental music] 637 00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:27,633 [speaking in foreign language] 638 00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:37,142 >> It's a product of a America. 639 00:39:39,978 --> 00:39:42,881 >> By the 1940s, despite the fact 640 00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:46,618 that there is this prohibition for Chinese immigration 641 00:39:46,652 --> 00:39:52,524 Chinese food becomes one of the ways in which Chinese and Chinese-Americans 642 00:39:52,558 --> 00:39:58,329 gain social acceptance and cultural acceptance in United States. 643 00:39:58,363 --> 00:40:03,034 And at the same time, as the United States enters the second World War 644 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:07,506 um, China becomes, you know, an ally of the United States. 645 00:40:07,539 --> 00:40:11,777 And by 1943, the Congress is persuaded 646 00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:15,614 to abrogate the Chinese Exclusion Acts. 647 00:40:15,647 --> 00:40:19,017 So the kind of really virulent and violent 648 00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:21,286 anti-Chinese movement subsides, 649 00:40:21,319 --> 00:40:23,889 and Chinese restaurants becomes ubiquitous. 650 00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:27,893 >> Wherever you go. 651 00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:30,896 You know, there's sunshine -- sunshine on the land 652 00:40:30,929 --> 00:40:33,331 there's a Chinese, there's a Chinese restaurant. 653 00:40:36,602 --> 00:40:37,969 >> My favorite fortune.. 654 00:40:39,738 --> 00:40:43,642 "Everything you have prepared, will be paid off soon." 655 00:40:43,675 --> 00:40:46,411 And also like the message, "No pain, no gain." 656 00:40:52,484 --> 00:40:54,853 [indistinct chattering] 657 00:40:56,588 --> 00:40:58,524 [instrumental music] 658 00:41:04,796 --> 00:41:07,032 >> One of the interesting things about Chinese food 659 00:41:07,065 --> 00:41:10,636 is that, it's always been linked with international relations 660 00:41:10,669 --> 00:41:12,538 between China and United States. 661 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:19,845 >> In the 1950's, particularly after the Chinese Communist Revolution 662 00:41:19,878 --> 00:41:26,618 the image of China and Chinese, uh, in the United States begins to change quite dramatically. 663 00:41:26,652 --> 00:41:32,423 United States is gripped with, uh, anxiety about the rise of -- of Communism. 664 00:41:32,457 --> 00:41:34,693 Particularly in Asia. 665 00:41:34,726 --> 00:41:39,898 So many Chinese families feel very vulnerable. 666 00:41:39,931 --> 00:41:44,536 China, Mainland China was now enemy, particularly during Korean war. 667 00:41:44,570 --> 00:41:49,240 And, so everything about China was negative. 668 00:41:49,274 --> 00:41:52,844 Including Chinese-Americans, including Chinese food. 669 00:42:05,023 --> 00:42:07,926 >> When I came here, 1950s 670 00:42:07,959 --> 00:42:10,228 there was Chinese food in the USA. 671 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:15,867 Everywhere you go, pretty much the same, same menu. 672 00:42:15,901 --> 00:42:18,770 It just taste so -- pretty bad. 673 00:42:18,804 --> 00:42:19,838 >> Bland. 674 00:42:19,871 --> 00:42:21,372 >> Yeah, no flavor. >> No spice. 675 00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:22,841 >> Yeah, nothing. 676 00:42:22,874 --> 00:42:28,680 >> I -- I tried to introduce the real Chinese food to Americans. 677 00:42:28,714 --> 00:42:34,285 I opened The Mandarin restaurant in 1959 in San Francisco. 678 00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:35,621 Um, Polk Street. 679 00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:37,989 >> It was food that she grew up with. 680 00:42:38,023 --> 00:42:40,692 That she, you know, served at The Mandarin. 681 00:42:40,726 --> 00:42:44,395 It had that, sort of...refined elegance to it, you know. 682 00:42:46,097 --> 00:42:48,399 >> I really had a tough time. 683 00:42:48,433 --> 00:42:52,671 Those days, a lot of a...what you call "discrimination." 684 00:42:52,704 --> 00:42:57,643 They didn't give me any credit. Everything I have to pay cash. 685 00:42:57,676 --> 00:43:00,245 We try to run.. 686 00:43:00,278 --> 00:43:03,214 ...a apartment in a good location. 687 00:43:03,248 --> 00:43:06,217 American won't rent for me. 688 00:43:06,251 --> 00:43:11,690 Because they said that Chinese person is very dirty. 689 00:43:14,059 --> 00:43:17,295 >> They weren't assimilated, they marginalized. 690 00:43:17,328 --> 00:43:21,633 And...this thing went on, uh, for a very, very long time. 691 00:43:23,702 --> 00:43:26,672 >> After Mao took over China 692 00:43:26,705 --> 00:43:29,374 the same time Chop Suey was being forgotten. 693 00:43:31,242 --> 00:43:34,245 There was nothing new in Chinese food. It was in the doldrums. 694 00:43:37,548 --> 00:43:40,819 >> It's really hard for me to date menus 695 00:43:40,852 --> 00:43:45,156 So there's a certain esthetic, you can just tell these are -- are '50s. 696 00:43:46,825 --> 00:43:50,395 Let's see if General Tso appears. 697 00:43:50,428 --> 00:43:52,864 "Chef Special Chicken Salad." 698 00:43:52,898 --> 00:43:53,999 "Hacked Chicken." 699 00:43:57,302 --> 00:43:59,537 This is gotta be '60s. 700 00:43:59,570 --> 00:44:02,540 Let's see what kind of chicken they had here. 701 00:44:02,573 --> 00:44:04,342 "Pineapple Chicken, Curry Chicken" 702 00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:07,478 and "Steamed Chicken and Sausage." 703 00:44:07,512 --> 00:44:10,415 I don't believe General Tso has reared 704 00:44:10,448 --> 00:44:14,052 his armor at this point in history. 705 00:44:14,085 --> 00:44:15,620 [instrumental music] 706 00:44:17,889 --> 00:44:23,094 >> Premier Zhou Enlai on behalf of the government of the People's Republic of China. 707 00:44:23,128 --> 00:44:26,798 Has extended an invitation to President Nixon to visit China. 708 00:44:26,832 --> 00:44:32,437 At an appropriate date, before May 1972. 709 00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:36,708 President Nixon has accepted the invitation with pleasure. 710 00:44:36,742 --> 00:44:39,911 >> There can be no stable and enduring peace 711 00:44:39,945 --> 00:44:42,080 without the People's Republic of China. 712 00:44:42,113 --> 00:44:46,317 >> When Nixon visited China, the bamboo curtain lifted. 713 00:44:47,318 --> 00:44:50,255 On February 21, 1972 714 00:44:50,288 --> 00:44:53,658 Nixon was hosted at a banquet by Premier Zhou Enlai 715 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:55,961 in Beijing's Great Hall of the People. 716 00:44:55,994 --> 00:45:02,600 And live on national television, Americans saw him eat real Chinese food. 717 00:45:02,633 --> 00:45:05,170 And they salivated. 718 00:45:05,203 --> 00:45:08,740 >> Raising a toast he drank that very powerful 719 00:45:08,774 --> 00:45:11,509 Chinese wine called the Maotai. 720 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:14,579 It's like 120 proof, kind of thing, you know, if you ever.. 721 00:45:14,612 --> 00:45:16,681 It's like jet fuel. 722 00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:21,853 It's sort of sparked a trend, I think, in terms of all things Chinese. 723 00:45:23,188 --> 00:45:25,290 [camera clicks] 724 00:45:25,323 --> 00:45:28,159 >> Right after Nixon visit China 725 00:45:28,193 --> 00:45:30,728 I got so many phone calls. 726 00:45:30,762 --> 00:45:35,967 And they said, "Can you duplicate Nixon's dinner." 727 00:45:36,001 --> 00:45:38,503 >> Suddenly all these Chinese restaurants 728 00:45:38,536 --> 00:45:41,572 had lines outside the door. 729 00:45:41,606 --> 00:45:44,742 >> It ushered in, kind of the golden age 730 00:45:44,776 --> 00:45:47,345 of fine Chinese cooking in the United Sates. 731 00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:48,579 [upbeat music] 732 00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:56,354 The first Szechuan restaurants, the first Hunan restaurants 733 00:45:56,387 --> 00:45:58,323 Fujian styled restaurants. 734 00:45:58,356 --> 00:46:01,726 >> All of a sudden, here came this wonderful, well-seasoned food 735 00:46:01,759 --> 00:46:05,330 from the cooler regions of China, and this stuff tasted great to us. 736 00:46:07,065 --> 00:46:09,267 But this one dish just stuck out. 737 00:46:14,739 --> 00:46:16,674 [knives swishing] 738 00:46:21,412 --> 00:46:22,513 [instrumental music] 739 00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:28,920 The renaissance in Chinese food in New York began 740 00:46:28,954 --> 00:46:33,224 with Michael Tong, the pre-eminent Chinese restaurateur in America. 741 00:46:33,258 --> 00:46:38,629 He opened his first restaurant in New York, Shun Lee Palace. 742 00:46:38,663 --> 00:46:44,169 Michael Tong, sort of opened the door to the Szechuan and Hunanese food. 743 00:46:49,841 --> 00:46:51,943 [speaking in foreign language] 744 00:46:58,149 --> 00:47:02,253 >> American people, late '60s and the '70s 745 00:47:02,287 --> 00:47:03,922 they urged for something different. 746 00:47:05,823 --> 00:47:09,694 In 1971, we opened the, uh, Shun Lee Palace. 747 00:47:09,727 --> 00:47:13,431 1972, we opened Hunan. 748 00:47:13,464 --> 00:47:16,267 Then suddenly, Hunan become a superstar. 749 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:21,006 >> Chef T.T. Wang of the Shun Lee restaurants 750 00:47:22,607 --> 00:47:25,610 devised a dish that he called General Tso's Chicken. 751 00:47:25,643 --> 00:47:27,578 [instrumental music] 752 00:47:30,982 --> 00:47:35,053 >> There was chunks of chicken, it was put it in a batter, it was fried 753 00:47:35,086 --> 00:47:39,024 brown sauce, a little sweet, a little garlicky and spicy. 754 00:47:39,057 --> 00:47:42,160 And the restaurant got a 4 star review from New York Times. 755 00:47:44,262 --> 00:47:46,764 >> Shun Lee and Hunan were a great great success. 756 00:47:52,770 --> 00:47:56,574 >> We are the first one who has General Tso's chicken in the US. 757 00:47:56,607 --> 00:48:00,611 Because we opened the first Hunanese restaurant in 1972. 758 00:48:00,645 --> 00:48:04,582 Before anybody else and we do have General Tso's Chicken on the menu. 759 00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:18,463 But I do have to say, I have to confess 760 00:48:18,496 --> 00:48:23,434 Taiwan do you have General Tso's Chicken in the '60s? 761 00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:28,039 [instrumental music] 762 00:48:28,073 --> 00:48:30,875 >> Timing is everything, right man in the right place 763 00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:32,910 at the right time, with the right dish. 764 00:48:32,944 --> 00:48:36,181 But whose dish was it? 765 00:48:36,214 --> 00:48:39,117 >> Chef T.T. Wang was really inspired 766 00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:42,053 by this restaurant in Taiwan which was this.. 767 00:48:42,087 --> 00:48:45,123 The most famous Hunan-style restaurant there. 768 00:48:47,625 --> 00:48:51,762 In the early 1970s, businessmen from the Shun Lee restaurants 769 00:48:51,796 --> 00:48:56,367 went to Taiwan looking to do something new and interesting and came back 770 00:48:56,401 --> 00:49:00,805 from there, with dishes from this particular restaurant called.. 771 00:49:00,838 --> 00:49:03,208 ...Chef Peng's Hunan Yuan. 772 00:49:06,744 --> 00:49:09,314 Chef Peng, P-E-N-G 773 00:49:09,347 --> 00:49:13,384 emigrated to Taiwan from China. 774 00:49:13,418 --> 00:49:17,422 >> Peng Chang-Kuei as a young boy was taken on as an apprentice 775 00:49:17,455 --> 00:49:20,158 by one of the great Hunanese chefs. 776 00:49:20,191 --> 00:49:22,060 He was very talented 777 00:49:22,093 --> 00:49:26,797 he quickly rose to the position of chef to the nationalist government 778 00:49:26,831 --> 00:49:29,467 who are fighting the Communist in the Chinese Civil War. 779 00:49:30,701 --> 00:49:33,038 There is this association in Hunan 780 00:49:33,071 --> 00:49:38,709 um, between eating chilies and having a fiery military spirit. 781 00:49:38,743 --> 00:49:41,612 His style of cooking was so influential, you know 782 00:49:41,646 --> 00:49:45,750 he was really regarded as one of the great Hunanese chefs. 783 00:49:50,455 --> 00:49:54,925 In 1949, when Chairman Mao's communist finally conquered the Mainland 784 00:49:54,959 --> 00:50:00,498 Peng Chang-Kuei fled to Taiwan with the Nationalist Government with the army. 785 00:50:00,531 --> 00:50:03,101 He cooked for the government there. 786 00:50:03,134 --> 00:50:09,174 His inspiration was the sour and hot flavors of his much missed home province Hunan. 787 00:50:09,207 --> 00:50:11,776 Which he had to leave. 788 00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:16,414 You know, Hunan was the home province of many leading figures 789 00:50:16,447 --> 00:50:21,252 in Chinese military and politics like General Tso. 790 00:50:21,286 --> 00:50:25,090 He is one of the famous people of Hunan province. 791 00:50:26,191 --> 00:50:29,560 People are very proud of him. 792 00:50:29,594 --> 00:50:34,732 So, Peng Chang-Kuei invented many dishes and one of the dishes that he invented.. 793 00:50:34,765 --> 00:50:36,734 ...was General Tso's Chicken. 794 00:50:36,767 --> 00:50:38,035 [instrumental music] 795 00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:56,587 >> In Taiwan, Chef Peng understood very early 796 00:50:56,621 --> 00:51:00,391 that a couple of restaurateurs from New York had come and seen his restaurant 797 00:51:00,425 --> 00:51:02,727 and went back to New York and copied it. 798 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,263 And Chef Peng was.. 799 00:51:05,296 --> 00:51:07,098 "Hey. 800 00:51:07,132 --> 00:51:11,502 "These guys are ripping me off, I'm gonna go there and show them, you know.. 801 00:51:11,536 --> 00:51:12,603 ...the real goods." 802 00:51:13,338 --> 00:51:15,240 [instrumental music] 803 00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:26,351 >> Early in 1970, the Eyewitness News team decided.. 804 00:51:26,384 --> 00:51:30,288 "Here is a new feature, it'll be called The Eyewitness News Gourmet." 805 00:51:30,321 --> 00:51:33,558 We'd go to visit a restaurant, once a week 806 00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:37,662 and would film the preparation of one of their signature dishes. 807 00:51:37,695 --> 00:51:42,400 And I've heard that there was this hot new Chinese chef in town. 808 00:51:42,433 --> 00:51:45,570 He had come to New York from Taiwan. 809 00:51:45,603 --> 00:51:49,807 So we went to meet the, Chef Peng and film the dish. 810 00:51:52,177 --> 00:51:54,512 >> This is Bob Lape, Channel 7, Eyewitness News. 811 00:51:57,682 --> 00:51:59,884 >> He was this, long skinny fellow. 812 00:51:59,917 --> 00:52:02,287 Spoke not a word of English. 813 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,723 He knew precisely what he was there to do which was to cook. 814 00:52:08,393 --> 00:52:11,862 He came out into the dining room where we'd wheeled this display cart 815 00:52:11,896 --> 00:52:13,231 full of pre-chopped ingredients 816 00:52:13,264 --> 00:52:16,467 so that could just go, bing-bing-bing. 817 00:52:16,501 --> 00:52:20,571 And he'd throw them into the wok one after the other, give them a quick stir 818 00:52:20,605 --> 00:52:22,373 you got the sizzle of the oil. 819 00:52:22,407 --> 00:52:25,943 The cloud of steam rising that you could smell. 820 00:52:25,976 --> 00:52:28,045 He just whipped through that dish in the wok 821 00:52:28,078 --> 00:52:31,582 with all sorts of elements and colors and textures. 822 00:52:31,616 --> 00:52:36,521 We put it on the air and it was over a thousand requests for that particular recipe. 823 00:52:38,589 --> 00:52:40,157 [instrumental music] 824 00:52:42,227 --> 00:52:46,564 >> But to Chef Peng's dismay, Americans didn't get the whole story. 825 00:52:46,597 --> 00:52:50,301 People thought that Chef Peng was coming and copying Chef Wang. 826 00:52:52,837 --> 00:52:55,373 Well, in fact it was the other way around. 827 00:52:55,406 --> 00:52:59,777 But Chef Peng never really convinced everyone that he was the original. 828 00:52:59,810 --> 00:53:01,446 [dramatic music] 829 00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:10,221 >> It would be great to have the 16 millimeter film that was shot of Chef Peng 830 00:53:10,255 --> 00:53:13,258 but that stuff was just thrown out. 831 00:53:13,291 --> 00:53:18,396 And so, that stuff was probably gone before 1980 arrived, sorry to to say. 832 00:53:20,665 --> 00:53:25,470 I never spent enough...quality time with Chef Peng. 833 00:53:25,503 --> 00:53:30,040 To get into his emotions, I mean, firstly, he was, primarily Chinese 834 00:53:30,074 --> 00:53:31,609 and spoke not much English. 835 00:53:31,642 --> 00:53:36,347 What's happened though is, because chefs and restaurateurs 836 00:53:36,381 --> 00:53:40,084 feel like they have a certain, shall we call it "poetic license" 837 00:53:40,117 --> 00:53:43,087 to rename or recreate things 838 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,458 that when Chef Wang came to making General Tso's Chicken 839 00:53:47,492 --> 00:53:51,296 he felt the American palate was a sweeter palate than the Chinese palate. 840 00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:53,564 So he gave it a touch of sugar. 841 00:53:55,266 --> 00:53:57,234 >> Everybody have their own sauce. 842 00:53:57,268 --> 00:53:59,337 Our General Tso's Chicken 843 00:53:59,370 --> 00:54:05,109 it has a little sweet taste, this is the most American people like that taste. 844 00:54:06,777 --> 00:54:10,581 >> Little vinegar and little sugar is low sweet. 845 00:54:10,615 --> 00:54:12,283 >> Vinegar, little bit sugar. 846 00:54:15,052 --> 00:54:19,557 >> They've got some honey in it. That's the most secret in here. 847 00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:23,227 >> The dish, in many cases has become sweeter than it was originally. 848 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:27,298 Full of fire, spice and all these other things but not sweet, per say. 849 00:54:29,233 --> 00:54:31,536 I think it is a simple matter 850 00:54:31,569 --> 00:54:32,903 of people playing copy cat. 851 00:54:34,104 --> 00:54:35,840 "This works, let's do it." 852 00:54:39,176 --> 00:54:41,779 And in the end it becomes an entirely different affair. 853 00:54:41,812 --> 00:54:43,748 [instrumental music] 854 00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:51,188 >> Crispy Chicken 855 00:54:51,221 --> 00:54:54,359 is a national dishes for Americans. 856 00:54:54,392 --> 00:54:59,263 You can buy Chicken Nuggets and adding soya and sour spicy sauce 857 00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:01,666 you can make your own General Tso's Chicken today. 858 00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:07,638 >> By the time, General Tso's Chicken appeared, there was this 859 00:55:07,672 --> 00:55:11,809 infrastructure of Chinese restaurants and Chinese associations 860 00:55:11,842 --> 00:55:14,479 and Chinese chefs and Chinese menus. 861 00:55:16,681 --> 00:55:18,716 >> The dish spread just all over the place. 862 00:55:18,749 --> 00:55:21,318 And places where you wouldn't expect to find it at all. 863 00:55:21,352 --> 00:55:23,187 Here's General Tso marching at the door. 864 00:55:25,022 --> 00:55:28,859 >> There are about 50,000 Chinese restaurants in the United States. 865 00:55:28,893 --> 00:55:32,863 The killer combination is to find an item that everyone likes. 866 00:55:32,897 --> 00:55:35,165 And keeps ordering time after time. 867 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:38,503 Yet, it's something that we could produce for a relative price. 868 00:55:41,305 --> 00:55:44,008 How many orders does the average restaurant sell a day? 869 00:55:44,041 --> 00:55:45,075 Maybe 10? 870 00:55:46,343 --> 00:55:49,914 10 bucks an order? 871 00:55:49,947 --> 00:55:54,351 You start to talk about a business just in General Tso's Chicken. 872 00:55:54,385 --> 00:55:56,320 That's in the billions of dollars. 873 00:55:57,722 --> 00:55:59,657 [instrumental music] 874 00:56:05,229 --> 00:56:10,968 >> General Tso's Chicken is an icon in the Chinese food. 875 00:56:11,001 --> 00:56:14,071 It's huge, it cover the whole country, 876 00:56:14,104 --> 00:56:15,940 cover the whole United States. 877 00:56:18,943 --> 00:56:23,113 >> I think if Chef Peng were looking at the scene today 878 00:56:23,147 --> 00:56:28,318 I think he'd be amazed at the fact that this dish has become so iconic. 879 00:56:29,787 --> 00:56:31,722 [music continues] 880 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,603 [singing in foreign language] 881 00:56:57,047 --> 00:56:58,983 [instrumental music] 882 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,976 [instrumental music] 883 00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:27,945 [speaking in foreign language] 884 00:58:04,782 --> 00:58:06,350 [instrumental music] 885 00:58:06,383 --> 00:58:09,854 >> As I know when I was very young. 886 00:58:09,887 --> 00:58:12,623 Chiang Kai-Shek who is the president 887 00:58:12,657 --> 00:58:16,226 asked my father to prepare to present dinner. 888 00:58:18,362 --> 00:58:22,366 My father tried to make something unique. 889 00:58:22,399 --> 00:58:23,668 Uh, different. 890 00:58:25,169 --> 00:58:30,941 He tried to make some name for it and then he find 891 00:58:30,975 --> 00:58:36,513 that Hunanese very famous general, who's General Tso. 892 00:58:36,547 --> 00:58:39,283 He is a general, never lose the battle. 893 00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:45,189 The people honor him, especially Hunanese people. 894 00:58:48,125 --> 00:58:52,997 General Tso, he likes, he personally...preferred chicken. 895 00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:55,532 He liked the chicken. 896 00:58:55,566 --> 00:59:00,137 My father is a very happy to name it as a General Tso's Chicken. 897 00:59:08,512 --> 00:59:12,617 >> But the name is, is so popular, is so popular, is so famous. 898 00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:15,485 This name of General Tso's Chicken. 899 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:18,689 And he makes all kind of different version. 900 00:59:21,091 --> 00:59:23,093 [speaking in foreign language] 901 00:59:45,816 --> 00:59:47,752 [instrumental music] 902 01:00:01,298 --> 01:00:02,667 [speaking in foreign language] 903 01:00:15,846 --> 01:00:17,214 [music continues] 904 01:00:17,247 --> 01:00:19,183 [speaking in foreign language] 905 01:00:46,877 --> 01:00:48,813 [speaking in foreign language] 906 01:01:00,891 --> 01:01:05,229 >> In a way, General Tso's Chicken really did come from Hunan province 907 01:01:05,262 --> 01:01:10,667 because Chef Peng himself was inspired by his own native cuisine. 908 01:01:10,701 --> 01:01:15,706 But one of the ironies about General Tso's Chicken is that the general himself 909 01:01:15,740 --> 01:01:21,578 was very much about preserving Chinese culture and Chinese tradition. 910 01:01:21,611 --> 01:01:27,317 Then this chicken dish that is named after him has in fact evolved, become anything 911 01:01:27,351 --> 01:01:29,086 but authentic Chinese. 912 01:01:29,987 --> 01:01:31,922 [music continues] 913 01:01:35,826 --> 01:01:38,996 >> The world's most magnificent culinary culture 914 01:01:39,029 --> 01:01:41,698 and the world's most diverse cuisine 915 01:01:41,732 --> 01:01:47,204 has been represented in the west by such a narrow range of dishes. 916 01:01:47,237 --> 01:01:50,107 And it's not just about eating and the pleasure of eating. 917 01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:52,042 But also about the culture. 918 01:01:52,076 --> 01:01:55,279 Because food is really at the heart of Chinese culture. 919 01:01:55,312 --> 01:01:58,883 Food is about love, it's about doing business, it's about the family. 920 01:01:58,916 --> 01:02:01,585 It's how you stay connected with your living relatives. 921 01:02:01,618 --> 01:02:03,253 And all your ancestors. 922 01:02:03,287 --> 01:02:05,823 It's just particularly important in Chinese culture. 923 01:02:09,293 --> 01:02:11,661 >> It's so integral that actually it's the greeting. 924 01:02:11,695 --> 01:02:15,465 Um...you'll see all these old timers would say... 925 01:02:15,499 --> 01:02:16,700 [speaking in foreign language] 926 01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:18,335 Which means "Have you eaten yet?" 927 01:02:18,368 --> 01:02:20,771 But that's their greeting, it's your hello. 928 01:02:20,805 --> 01:02:22,306 Because it's so important 929 01:02:22,339 --> 01:02:25,943 but becomes a short hand for your well-being. 930 01:02:28,378 --> 01:02:33,617 >> Growing up, we learnt to pick the meat out of crab. 931 01:02:33,650 --> 01:02:38,088 Here, there's no way a child in America would sit down. 932 01:02:38,122 --> 01:02:40,124 You know, painstakingly, just to nibble 933 01:02:40,157 --> 01:02:43,727 a little piece of meat from a crab. There's no way they do it. 934 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,063 >> I have some nephew's kids came here 935 01:02:46,096 --> 01:02:50,034 and visiting me, so, I give, give them -- and they said 936 01:02:50,067 --> 01:02:53,003 "Oh, grandma, too much trouble." 937 01:02:53,037 --> 01:02:57,007 At home, we now, everything pour it in the blender. 938 01:02:57,041 --> 01:03:00,210 That's real funny to me, everything put in the blender 939 01:03:00,244 --> 01:03:01,211 >> Liquid diet. 940 01:03:01,245 --> 01:03:03,047 >> Then, they just drink it. 941 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,614 [chuckles] 942 01:03:04,648 --> 01:03:07,251 [instrumental music] 943 01:03:07,284 --> 01:03:13,090 >> I think in America, there is a downward appreciation of Chinese food. 944 01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:17,627 If you want French food 945 01:03:17,661 --> 01:03:22,366 you have a lot of labor and you get charged for it. 946 01:03:22,399 --> 01:03:27,504 Chinese food is a lot of labor, but they can't get away charging a lot of money. 947 01:03:27,537 --> 01:03:31,208 So that is a question of attitude. 948 01:03:31,241 --> 01:03:35,245 The culture attitude, the perception, China has a place. 949 01:03:35,279 --> 01:03:38,315 Their currency worth nothing and their labor worth nothing. 950 01:03:38,348 --> 01:03:40,617 [music continues] 951 01:03:40,650 --> 01:03:45,890 Chinese restaurants still are the first job for immigrants coming to this country. 952 01:03:46,857 --> 01:03:49,426 You don't speak the language. 953 01:03:49,459 --> 01:03:51,561 You can't find a job. 954 01:03:51,595 --> 01:03:53,030 You know how to cook. 955 01:03:53,063 --> 01:03:55,099 >> You try to make it work. 956 01:03:55,132 --> 01:04:00,670 You try to make this restaurant stick, in a place where another restaurant wouldn't stick. 957 01:04:00,704 --> 01:04:04,274 >> These dishes are the economic necessity 958 01:04:04,308 --> 01:04:08,612 and would help you succeed and survive. 959 01:04:08,645 --> 01:04:10,580 [music continues] 960 01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:21,625 >> Regarding, the General Tso's Chicken and a different taste 961 01:04:21,658 --> 01:04:25,395 my personally it's kind of honor. 962 01:04:25,429 --> 01:04:27,297 Is honor. 963 01:04:27,331 --> 01:04:31,235 Is honor to have this people like to serve this dishes. 964 01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:34,939 I'm proud of to be my father's son. 965 01:04:37,507 --> 01:04:41,445 We are making some...ah, joke. 966 01:04:41,478 --> 01:04:46,250 The most famous people in the world is Mr. Zuo Zongtang. 967 01:04:46,283 --> 01:04:52,923 Because every -- every day, everybody order Zuo Zongtang, Zuo Zongtang, Zuo Zongtang. 968 01:04:52,957 --> 01:04:55,192 [instrumental music] 969 01:05:07,204 --> 01:05:09,806 This is the General Tso's Chicken we serve. 970 01:05:22,152 --> 01:05:24,088 [music continues] 971 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,568 >> We started P. F. Chang's, about 20 years ago. 972 01:05:40,404 --> 01:05:42,906 My mother's food.. 973 01:05:42,939 --> 01:05:45,475 at the Mandarin, it was food of the courts. 974 01:05:45,509 --> 01:05:47,077 We have Peking duck. 975 01:05:47,111 --> 01:05:51,748 Uh, we had dishes that needed more preparation, more care. 976 01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:55,719 In my style...part of the generation gap, I think was.. 977 01:05:55,752 --> 01:05:57,754 I like, I wanted something more casual. 978 01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:03,127 We call it Chang's Chicken here, it's one of our most popular dishes. 979 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,629 You know, there's different, everybody has their version 980 01:06:05,662 --> 01:06:08,698 version of this dish and anyway this is our version here. 981 01:06:11,168 --> 01:06:15,105 >> Americans embrace certain ideas about ethnic food. 982 01:06:15,139 --> 01:06:18,708 You know, whether it's the taco or French fries or.. 983 01:06:18,742 --> 01:06:21,711 You know, Swedish Pancakes. They make it their own. 984 01:06:21,745 --> 01:06:23,380 [instrumental music] 985 01:06:23,413 --> 01:06:25,582 There's nothing wrong with that. 986 01:06:25,615 --> 01:06:29,119 I mean, Chinese-American food is, it's a style. 987 01:06:29,153 --> 01:06:31,188 You know, it's a style of cooking. 988 01:06:31,221 --> 01:06:33,157 It's a cuisine in itself, I think. 989 01:06:38,162 --> 01:06:43,367 >> Our idea about authenticity, we've created this value of authenticity. 990 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,170 But I don't there is such a thing as authenticity. 991 01:06:46,203 --> 01:06:50,174 You know, the idea that there is some original Chinese cuisine. 992 01:06:50,207 --> 01:06:54,611 Chinese cuisine has changed everywhere. 993 01:06:54,644 --> 01:06:59,883 >> You realize that every country has it's own version of authentic Chinese food. 994 01:06:59,916 --> 01:07:04,054 Because to them, that's the version of Chinese food which is a taste of home. 995 01:07:04,088 --> 01:07:05,589 [instrumental music] 996 01:07:05,622 --> 01:07:08,225 >> We are at Chinese Mirch in Manhattan. 997 01:07:08,258 --> 01:07:13,263 We are actually, the first Indian-Chinese restaurant to open in New York. 998 01:07:13,297 --> 01:07:17,101 Indian Chinese is Chinese food, but with Indian flavors. 999 01:07:17,134 --> 01:07:20,504 It is Chinese, the way we eat it in India. 1000 01:07:22,906 --> 01:07:26,543 >> This is western style Chinese vegetable fried rice. 1001 01:07:26,576 --> 01:07:30,013 >> Some of the Mexican restaurant and Italian restaurants 1002 01:07:30,046 --> 01:07:36,820 think that this is a good idea and have Fortune Taco Cookie and Fortune Cannoli Cookie. 1003 01:07:36,853 --> 01:07:39,289 >> Nothing is authentic here in our restaurant 1004 01:07:39,323 --> 01:07:43,560 We are not authentic Chinese, we are not authentic Mexican. 1005 01:07:43,593 --> 01:07:45,529 And isn't that American? 1006 01:07:46,596 --> 01:07:48,698 >> So this our General Tso's veal rib 1007 01:07:48,732 --> 01:07:50,667 and mission Chinese food. 1008 01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:53,337 >> I'm gonna make a General Tso's Tofu Sandwich. 1009 01:07:53,370 --> 01:07:56,373 >> I just order General Tso's Soft boiled egg. 1010 01:07:56,406 --> 01:07:58,942 >> Actually, they had General Tso's Snake 1011 01:07:58,975 --> 01:08:00,544 at this restaurant. 1012 01:08:00,577 --> 01:08:03,880 >> In fact, you can now get General Tso's Chicken in China. 1013 01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:08,084 [speaking in foreign language] 1014 01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:14,524 >> I admit that I don't often look for it when I go to a restaurant. 1015 01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:16,926 >> I've never ordered it. 1016 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,896 >> I did it have a four year General Tso's love affair. 1017 01:08:19,929 --> 01:08:21,198 [speaking in foreign language] 1018 01:08:23,467 --> 01:08:27,204 >> I don't think, this dish will disappear. 1019 01:08:27,237 --> 01:08:33,477 People will still like enjoying that sort of groovy sauce. 1020 01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:34,511 They like it. 1021 01:08:35,179 --> 01:08:36,480 And why not? 1022 01:08:36,513 --> 01:08:38,448 [instrumental music] 1023 01:08:45,155 --> 01:08:47,090 [instrumental music] 1024 01:09:14,384 --> 01:09:16,320 [music continues] 1025 01:09:44,414 --> 01:09:46,350 [music continues] 1026 01:10:14,444 --> 01:10:16,380 [music continues] 1027 01:10:44,474 --> 01:10:46,876 [music continues] 1028 01:11:14,504 --> 01:11:16,440 [music continues] 1029 01:11:44,534 --> 01:11:46,470 [music continues] 1030 01:12:14,564 --> 01:12:16,500 [music continues] 78074

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