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You look like my other babies. 15 00:00:56,598 --> 00:00:58,308 Yeah, you have teeth. 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,935 Good baby. 17 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:02,437 So, somehow they're making their way in here, 18 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:05,816 and they're having their litters or they're being dropped off. 19 00:01:06,108 --> 00:01:08,402 We used to take them home, but we can't take them all home. 20 00:01:08,694 --> 00:01:10,112 -That's the problem. - I know. 21 00:01:10,404 --> 00:01:11,655 (meowing) 22 00:01:11,947 --> 00:01:14,283 (forklift beeping) 23 00:01:14,575 --> 00:01:15,617 (meowing) 24 00:01:15,909 --> 00:01:18,370 (thudding) 25 00:01:18,662 --> 00:01:20,372 (engine starting) 26 00:01:20,664 --> 00:01:30,507 ♪ 27 00:01:37,514 --> 00:01:38,807 (cat cooing) 28 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:48,650 ♪ 29 00:01:48,942 --> 00:01:51,153 (birds chirping) 30 00:01:51,445 --> 00:01:55,324 ♪ 31 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:57,451 (whirring) 32 00:01:59,244 --> 00:02:01,747 It is a feline free for all in Cornwall, 33 00:02:02,039 --> 00:02:04,750 as feral cats have taken over neighborhoods. 34 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:08,045 They may be cuddly and cute, but in Cornwall feral cats 35 00:02:08,337 --> 00:02:10,589 have become a big problem. 36 00:02:10,881 --> 00:02:12,215 They're breeding and feeding, 37 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:13,842 and they're using the whole street 38 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:15,761 as a litter box. 39 00:02:16,053 --> 00:02:17,763 Some residents are embracing the cats, 40 00:02:18,055 --> 00:02:20,307 leaving food around. 41 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:22,434 Well, getting everyone to agree on a solution 42 00:02:22,726 --> 00:02:24,770 is much like herding cats. 43 00:02:25,062 --> 00:02:27,481 Residents and volunteers alike just want the city 44 00:02:27,773 --> 00:02:29,691 to stop pussyfooting around. 45 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:31,777 It's a catastrophe. 46 00:02:32,069 --> 00:02:37,824 ♪ 47 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:40,786 The city of Cornwall dropped the ball many years ago. 48 00:02:41,078 --> 00:02:42,996 There should have been money into the budget every year. 49 00:02:43,288 --> 00:02:45,749 We wouldn't be in this predicament now. 50 00:02:46,041 --> 00:02:48,335 We wouldn't be. 51 00:02:48,627 --> 00:02:51,254 I am Mary Jane Proulx from Cornwall, Ontario. 52 00:02:51,546 --> 00:02:54,091 Lived here all my life. 53 00:02:54,383 --> 00:02:55,717 Growing up I had rabbits and guinea pigs, 54 00:02:56,009 --> 00:02:58,053 and all kinds of animals. 55 00:02:58,345 --> 00:02:59,971 I remember trying to save little birds 56 00:03:00,263 --> 00:03:01,973 whenever I was, like, 8 years old. 57 00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:03,475 No, they all died, 58 00:03:03,767 --> 00:03:06,311 but at least I tried to save them. 59 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:08,563 I do the right thing, and I expect everybody else 60 00:03:08,855 --> 00:03:10,315 to do the right thing and I get very, very mad 61 00:03:10,607 --> 00:03:12,609 when people don't do the right thing. 62 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:16,279 I want to slap people sometimes, but I don't. 63 00:03:16,571 --> 00:03:19,574 I love cats, and I don't want cats to be poisoned, 64 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:21,535 or to be, you know, shot or trapped, 65 00:03:21,827 --> 00:03:23,745 and whatever done to it. 66 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:27,582 It's not their fault why they're out there right now. 67 00:03:27,874 --> 00:03:30,293 Something has to be done. 68 00:03:30,585 --> 00:03:32,129 So, I started my own organization 69 00:03:32,421 --> 00:03:33,922 called Cat Trap, 70 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:36,425 and we believe in the program TNR, 71 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:38,093 trap, neuter, and return. 72 00:03:38,385 --> 00:03:40,429 After we bring them to the vet, we put them back out 73 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:42,723 where we got them from, into the colonies. 74 00:03:43,014 --> 00:03:45,183 Because they're all together, they're all like family. 75 00:03:45,475 --> 00:03:47,144 ♪ 76 00:03:47,436 --> 00:03:51,398 I think the first time we did any trapping was like 15 cats. 77 00:03:51,690 --> 00:03:53,483 That was, like, wow, it was quite amazing, 78 00:03:53,775 --> 00:03:56,069 and then it just snowballed after that. 79 00:03:56,361 --> 00:03:57,654 I wanna help people. 80 00:03:57,946 --> 00:03:59,489 So, my name is out there. 81 00:03:59,781 --> 00:04:02,534 I like to knock on doors, I like to talk to people. 82 00:04:02,826 --> 00:04:05,746 Well, I mean, I have a nice piece of property here, 83 00:04:06,037 --> 00:04:07,330 and I got cats pooping all over it. 84 00:04:07,622 --> 00:04:10,083 I got a cute little dog, likes to roll in it, 85 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:11,752 and I don't think it's right. 86 00:04:12,043 --> 00:04:14,296 I pay high taxes, and I expect some stuff cleaned up, 87 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:15,922 and they're not doing it. 88 00:04:16,214 --> 00:04:16,798 I called the city and said, "What are you gonna do 89 00:04:17,090 --> 00:04:18,508 with these cats?" 90 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,093 They turned around, told me they have a bylaw for dogs 91 00:04:20,385 --> 00:04:21,344 but not for cats. 92 00:04:21,636 --> 00:04:23,513 I told them, "Bullshit,” and hung up. 93 00:04:23,805 --> 00:04:26,141 We found 'em dead on the lawn right there, 94 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:27,768 some babies and that. 95 00:04:28,059 --> 00:04:30,729 We found some babies over there on the track line. 96 00:04:31,021 --> 00:04:34,024 He's found some dead ones on his property over there. 97 00:04:34,316 --> 00:04:37,569 It's too bad, you know, just cats all over. 98 00:04:37,861 --> 00:04:39,237 It's frustrating. 99 00:04:39,529 --> 00:04:40,822 I've dealt with neighbors fighting with each other. 100 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:42,657 That's not good, you don't wanna fight with your neighbor 101 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:44,201 over something like that. 102 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:46,787 It's not the cats' fault, it's our fault. 103 00:04:47,078 --> 00:04:48,705 Let's take responsibility now. 104 00:04:48,997 --> 00:04:51,416 ♪ 105 00:04:51,708 --> 00:04:54,211 That's okay. 106 00:04:54,503 --> 00:04:57,255 Hear that noise, it's okay, you're okay. 107 00:04:57,547 --> 00:04:59,800 So, Mellissa, she's awesome, I call her my other daughter. 108 00:05:00,091 --> 00:05:01,968 I do. 109 00:05:02,260 --> 00:05:04,221 She's a hard, hard worker. 110 00:05:04,513 --> 00:05:07,307 She's doing her rescue all on her own. 111 00:05:07,599 --> 00:05:09,226 Plus, she works. 112 00:05:09,518 --> 00:05:11,686 She just loves animals, it's just DNA. 113 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:13,104 Yeah. 114 00:05:13,396 --> 00:05:15,106 We don't want fleas on your face. 115 00:05:15,398 --> 00:05:17,359 (water streaming) 116 00:05:17,651 --> 00:05:20,153 I've rescued several litters from the dump, 117 00:05:20,445 --> 00:05:22,447 and they call me, "Can you come pick up these kittens?" 118 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:23,949 Or, "Can I bring them to you?" 119 00:05:24,241 --> 00:05:26,117 ♪ 120 00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:29,329 My name's Mellissa, I run Tiny But Mighty Kitten Rescue, 121 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:32,541 and I save kittens. 122 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:35,544 Cats specifically, I mean, at least in Cornwall, 123 00:05:35,836 --> 00:05:37,337 the city doesn't fund to help them, 124 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:40,590 and a lot of people find that the cats are disposable. 125 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:42,884 Kitten gets old, not as cute, 126 00:05:43,176 --> 00:05:44,970 put them outside, they're not fixed. 127 00:05:45,262 --> 00:05:47,430 What do you think happens? 128 00:05:47,722 --> 00:05:50,183 I get a lot of messages, a minimum of 5 per day of, 129 00:05:50,475 --> 00:05:51,852 "Can you take this kitten I found?" 130 00:05:52,143 --> 00:05:53,687 So, if I have space, I can take them. 131 00:05:53,979 --> 00:05:55,772 First, get them spayed, neutered, vaccinated, 132 00:05:56,064 --> 00:05:57,315 dewormed, micro chipped, 133 00:05:57,607 --> 00:05:59,150 and then I find families for them. 134 00:05:59,442 --> 00:06:01,069 ♪ 135 00:06:01,361 --> 00:06:03,613 I don't have a clue how many litters I've saved. 136 00:06:03,905 --> 00:06:06,074 I lost track. 137 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:09,286 (meowing) 138 00:06:09,578 --> 00:06:12,956 ♪ 139 00:06:13,248 --> 00:06:15,333 (flags flapping) 140 00:06:19,254 --> 00:06:20,714 ♪ 141 00:06:21,006 --> 00:06:22,591 There has always been a large number of cats 142 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:24,217 in this area, and it's primarily due to 143 00:06:24,509 --> 00:06:26,761 the lack of spaying and neutering. 144 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:28,805 My name's Bonnie Bishop, and I'm an associate director 145 00:06:29,097 --> 00:06:30,849 with the Ontario SPCA. 146 00:06:31,141 --> 00:06:33,059 ♪ 147 00:06:33,351 --> 00:06:35,228 We call ourselves here an animal shelter, 148 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,148 and we have 12 of them across the province of Ontario. 149 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,525 ♪ 150 00:06:40,817 --> 00:06:43,236 (indistinct remarks) 151 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:46,114 In this community, for example, we have been inundated 152 00:06:46,406 --> 00:06:48,909 with a large number of cats for many years. 153 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,703 We represent 30 percent of the intake of cats 154 00:06:51,995 --> 00:06:53,246 in the province of Ontario. 155 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:55,999 (dogs barking) 156 00:06:56,291 --> 00:06:58,710 We have limited cage space here, and we've had days where people 157 00:06:59,002 --> 00:07:01,296 have shown up with up to as many as 20 cats, 158 00:07:01,588 --> 00:07:02,964 and think that we can take those animals in 159 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:04,591 on that given day. 160 00:07:04,883 --> 00:07:07,636 Here in Cornwall, there's no program currently 161 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:09,679 that the city runs to pick up stray cats, 162 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:11,306 so the public literally picks them up 163 00:07:11,598 --> 00:07:14,309 and brings them in to us. 164 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:15,977 We talk to a lot of people that come in, 165 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:17,354 and when we had a wait list, say, "Ah, just gonna go 166 00:07:17,646 --> 00:07:19,064 dump it somewhere." 167 00:07:19,356 --> 00:07:22,025 Not acceptable, it's not acceptable to dump an animal. 168 00:07:22,317 --> 00:07:24,361 Those animals, they become prey for something else. 169 00:07:24,653 --> 00:07:26,446 And also, they are now being forced to hunt 170 00:07:26,738 --> 00:07:28,740 and fend for themselves in a way that they've never 171 00:07:29,032 --> 00:07:31,034 had to do before. 172 00:07:31,326 --> 00:07:32,953 No, I believe cats should be indoors. 173 00:07:33,244 --> 00:07:35,246 (meowing) 174 00:07:35,538 --> 00:07:38,166 (purring) 175 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:44,631 ♪ 176 00:07:44,923 --> 00:07:47,717 The domestic cats that we have in our homes, 177 00:07:48,009 --> 00:07:50,303 we see them in our house as being this love able, 178 00:07:50,595 --> 00:07:54,099 adorable creature, and then we put them outside. 179 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:56,267 They engage in very similar behaviors 180 00:07:56,559 --> 00:07:59,270 to what wild cats would do. 181 00:07:59,562 --> 00:08:01,940 - I keep getting this cat. -Yeah. 182 00:08:02,232 --> 00:08:03,942 That's a new one. 183 00:08:04,234 --> 00:08:05,443 My name is Elizabeth Gow, 184 00:08:05,735 --> 00:08:09,489 and I study what cats do when we can't find them, 185 00:08:09,781 --> 00:08:11,783 and I do that using a variety 186 00:08:12,075 --> 00:08:14,494 of different specialized cameras. 187 00:08:14,786 --> 00:08:17,288 (photos snapping) 188 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:26,047 ♪ 189 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:28,299 They can get up to all kinds of mayhem. 190 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:30,260 They can cross busy roads. 191 00:08:30,552 --> 00:08:32,887 They can go into sewer drains, 192 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:35,181 climb trees, stalk, 193 00:08:35,473 --> 00:08:37,434 kill animals. 194 00:08:37,726 --> 00:08:40,186 And so, on one of the concerns with cats is their impacts 195 00:08:40,478 --> 00:08:42,022 on biodiversity. 196 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:45,483 They are not from here, and when they're outside, 197 00:08:45,775 --> 00:08:48,737 they are technically an invasive species. 198 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:50,655 They engage in very similar behaviors 199 00:08:50,947 --> 00:08:52,282 to what wild cats would do. 200 00:08:52,574 --> 00:08:54,784 So, they will hunt animals when they find them. 201 00:08:55,076 --> 00:08:56,786 (cat snarling) 202 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:58,705 (bird crying) 203 00:08:58,997 --> 00:09:02,208 (snarling) 204 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:10,925 ♪ 205 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:14,012 (rustling) 206 00:09:14,304 --> 00:09:15,847 It's a golden crowned king let. 207 00:09:16,139 --> 00:09:18,349 This tiny little one here. 208 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:20,101 ♪ 209 00:09:20,393 --> 00:09:21,394 So, and here is a little warbler, 210 00:09:21,686 --> 00:09:22,771 the northern perulla. 211 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:25,482 It's got a little golden chest here. 212 00:09:25,774 --> 00:09:27,609 Well, cats will eat just about any bird 213 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:30,653 they can get near. 214 00:09:30,945 --> 00:09:32,822 Brown creeper, 215 00:09:33,114 --> 00:09:35,408 so named 'cause it goes up the tree trunk. 216 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:36,993 A woodpecker. 217 00:09:37,285 --> 00:09:39,704 In Canada alone, about 250 million, 218 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:43,416 250 million birds are killed every year 219 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:45,043 by domestic cats. 220 00:09:45,335 --> 00:09:52,801 ♪ 221 00:09:53,093 --> 00:09:55,386 I'm Bridget Stutchbury, my specialty is studying 222 00:09:55,678 --> 00:09:57,430 migratory songbirds to understand 223 00:09:57,722 --> 00:09:59,015 why their populations are declining 224 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:00,809 and what we can do to help them. 225 00:10:01,101 --> 00:10:02,894 (birds chirping) 226 00:10:03,186 --> 00:10:05,188 Birds are what I call blue collar workers. 227 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,232 They move seeds around, 228 00:10:07,524 --> 00:10:10,360 they eat insects, and if they weren't eating the insects, 229 00:10:10,652 --> 00:10:13,071 the insects' populations are gonna explode 230 00:10:13,363 --> 00:10:14,823 and damage the trees. 231 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:17,450 And, so, when you take, like, a really important player 232 00:10:17,742 --> 00:10:20,912 in an ecosystem, and just take it out altogether, 233 00:10:21,204 --> 00:10:23,414 then things are going to change in that ecosystem. 234 00:10:23,706 --> 00:10:25,083 The forest won't be as healthy, 235 00:10:25,375 --> 00:10:26,960 the air won't be as clean. 236 00:10:27,252 --> 00:10:29,879 You can have this huge cascading effect. 237 00:10:30,171 --> 00:10:31,464 (thudding) 238 00:10:31,756 --> 00:10:33,800 (bird chirping) 239 00:10:34,092 --> 00:10:36,928 Well, it's not simply a matter of there being no birds. 240 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:40,056 Cats certainly hunt native small mammal species. 241 00:10:40,348 --> 00:10:43,643 So, these are native mice, chipmunks, small rodents, 242 00:10:43,935 --> 00:10:46,479 rabbits, all kinds of small animals. 243 00:10:46,771 --> 00:10:49,274 They also can transmit diseases. 244 00:10:49,566 --> 00:10:51,359 One is feline leukemia virus. 245 00:10:51,651 --> 00:10:53,361 So, they might be able to transfer into 246 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:55,029 wild cat populations. 247 00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:58,324 These are cougars, and bobcats, and lynx. 248 00:10:58,616 --> 00:11:00,243 But, I don't think that people are really paying attention 249 00:11:00,535 --> 00:11:01,661 to the problem. 250 00:11:01,953 --> 00:11:04,622 The impacts of cats are really, really massive. 251 00:11:04,914 --> 00:11:06,457 We need to not be losing species 252 00:11:06,749 --> 00:11:08,501 to maintain our own health as humans. 253 00:11:08,793 --> 00:11:10,628 ♪ 254 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,091 I am part of the Canadian task force. 255 00:11:15,383 --> 00:11:17,260 We're trying to find the best solutions 256 00:11:17,552 --> 00:11:20,763 to solve this cat problem that we have. 257 00:11:21,055 --> 00:11:23,850 The first step in any sort of management undertaking 258 00:11:24,142 --> 00:11:26,019 is to know, well, where is the problem? 259 00:11:26,311 --> 00:11:27,896 ♪ 260 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:30,023 There's typically more cats in areas 261 00:11:30,315 --> 00:11:32,108 where there's more poverty. 262 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,152 People don't tend to spay and neuter their cats 263 00:11:34,444 --> 00:11:35,778 when they can't afford it. 264 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:38,990 And also are more likely to put their cats outside. 265 00:11:39,282 --> 00:11:40,742 And if you think of a cat produces anywhere from 266 00:11:41,034 --> 00:11:43,328 2 to upwards of 18 offspring, 267 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:45,663 that's a lot of cats and kittens. 268 00:11:45,955 --> 00:11:47,874 (meowing) 269 00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:53,838 ♪ 270 00:11:54,130 --> 00:11:55,798 (meowing) 271 00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:58,676 ♪ 272 00:11:58,968 --> 00:12:00,345 (beeping) 273 00:12:00,637 --> 00:12:02,430 ♪ 274 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:04,224 (beeping) 275 00:12:04,515 --> 00:12:05,808 (meowing) 276 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:07,644 ♪ 277 00:12:07,936 --> 00:12:10,271 (whirring) 278 00:12:13,691 --> 00:12:16,110 (water streaming) 279 00:12:18,863 --> 00:12:20,531 (clinking) 280 00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:23,159 (whirring) 281 00:12:23,451 --> 00:12:25,662 ♪ 282 00:12:25,954 --> 00:12:27,413 (meowing) 283 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:29,874 ♪ 284 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:33,586 I actually learned by watching videos online, 285 00:12:33,878 --> 00:12:35,046 for the most part. 286 00:12:35,338 --> 00:12:37,757 I had my vet train me in certain things. 287 00:12:38,049 --> 00:12:40,802 Besides that, though, I learned it all online. 288 00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:42,303 ♪ 289 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:43,721 (meowing) 290 00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:45,765 You ready, babe? 291 00:12:46,057 --> 00:12:48,309 Here you go, love, here, no. 292 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:53,731 ♪ 293 00:12:54,023 --> 00:12:56,484 These guys were orphaned at 2 weeks old. 294 00:12:56,776 --> 00:12:58,653 (slurping) 295 00:12:58,945 --> 00:13:01,072 They were actually in decent shape, 296 00:13:01,364 --> 00:13:05,076 but usually they don't come in great shape when I get them. 297 00:13:05,368 --> 00:13:06,494 (purring) 298 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:07,704 Are you purring? 299 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:10,248 Good boy. 300 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:12,667 She's Maisie, the only girl. 301 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,919 There's Flynn. 302 00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:18,339 Nicky, and the big one, Logan. 303 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:21,592 And Jackson. 304 00:13:21,884 --> 00:13:22,885 Is that you? 305 00:13:23,177 --> 00:13:24,345 (kissing) 306 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:27,056 Crazy boy. 307 00:13:27,348 --> 00:13:28,641 (zipping) 308 00:13:28,933 --> 00:13:30,393 Who's next? 309 00:13:30,685 --> 00:13:32,312 I only need one kid. 310 00:13:32,603 --> 00:13:35,148 Oh, one kid. 311 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,607 Watch out. 312 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:38,568 Oh. 313 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:40,028 I mean, it's nonstop. 314 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,155 I bottle feed every four hours right now, 315 00:13:42,447 --> 00:13:43,740 so it's never ending. 316 00:13:44,032 --> 00:13:45,408 Literally never ending. 317 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:47,994 And I even do this while I am supposed to be working. 318 00:13:48,286 --> 00:13:49,662 Oh. 319 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:51,581 I love it for the most part. 320 00:13:51,873 --> 00:13:53,416 Sometimes it's stressful, like when they 321 00:13:53,708 --> 00:13:55,501 aspirate on their milk, 322 00:13:55,793 --> 00:13:58,838 or if there 's a medical problem. 323 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:00,048 But, when they're healthy like this, 324 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:02,008 it's pretty easy. 325 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:04,469 (purring) 326 00:14:04,761 --> 00:14:05,845 What do you want? 327 00:14:06,137 --> 00:14:07,472 You already ate. 328 00:14:07,764 --> 00:14:10,558 ♪ 329 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:13,019 When they leave, it's, like, really heartbreaking, 330 00:14:13,311 --> 00:14:14,479 but ultimately, I guess, worth it 331 00:14:14,771 --> 00:14:16,439 because they find forever homes. 332 00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:18,483 ♪ 333 00:14:18,775 --> 00:14:21,110 You get attached, that's for sure. 334 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:23,654 Are you done? 335 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:25,323 Geez, 336 00:14:25,615 --> 00:14:27,283 that was so much. 337 00:14:27,575 --> 00:14:29,369 Okay, you're done. 338 00:14:29,660 --> 00:14:32,497 ♪ 339 00:14:32,789 --> 00:14:34,999 (meowing) 340 00:14:35,291 --> 00:14:40,713 ♪ 341 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:43,341 (purring) 342 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:50,681 (birds chirping) 343 00:14:50,973 --> 00:15:00,817 ♪ 344 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,496 Feral cats are certainly something 345 00:15:13,788 --> 00:15:15,748 myself as an ecologist are concerned about, 346 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,044 because they will hunt many, many animals a day, 347 00:15:20,336 --> 00:15:21,671 because they have to eat them 348 00:15:21,963 --> 00:15:24,966 much, much more than an owned cat. 349 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:26,467 No, I don't think there is sort of 350 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:29,053 a one-size-fits-all solution to try to reduce 351 00:15:29,345 --> 00:15:32,682 the number of cats that are not owned that run wild, 352 00:15:32,974 --> 00:15:34,183 the stray and feral cats. 353 00:15:34,475 --> 00:15:36,227 There's a few different strategies, 354 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:39,147 one being euthanasia. 355 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:41,357 Trap, neuter, release, or TNR, 356 00:15:41,649 --> 00:15:44,318 and that involves capturing cats and neutering them, 357 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:46,529 so they can't reproduce, vaccinating them, 358 00:15:46,821 --> 00:15:48,281 and then returning them. 359 00:15:48,573 --> 00:15:49,949 (purring) 360 00:15:50,241 --> 00:15:52,243 (birds chirping) 361 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:54,245 A lot of people in Cornwall want to put them down, 362 00:15:54,537 --> 00:15:55,830 they want to euthanize. 363 00:15:56,122 --> 00:15:57,623 I don't agree with that. 364 00:15:57,915 --> 00:16:00,543 (whirring) 365 00:16:00,835 --> 00:16:10,553 ♪ 366 00:16:10,845 --> 00:16:13,097 Even though there's only two of us, it didn't matter. 367 00:16:13,389 --> 00:16:14,724 We had signs, we walked in. 368 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:16,434 We were sort of making a lot of noise, 369 00:16:16,726 --> 00:16:19,604 so then all of the media came out started to talk to us 370 00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:22,273 because we had our signs, and we had the kitten. 371 00:16:22,565 --> 00:16:23,858 They wanted to know, "Why are you here?" 372 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,151 -You know? -And, "Why are you bringing 373 00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:26,903 -a kitten?" -Yeah, so we continued 374 00:16:27,195 --> 00:16:29,614 -every two weeks. -Yep. 375 00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:32,867 Whenever we did protest we had like 300 comments, 376 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:35,745 250 probably against us. 377 00:16:36,037 --> 00:16:37,205 So, that means they're not really thinking 378 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:38,581 outside of the box. 379 00:16:38,873 --> 00:16:40,666 I want people to think outside the box. 380 00:16:40,958 --> 00:16:45,713 ♪ 381 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,341 Will they back down? Will they support us? 382 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:49,759 Time will tell. 383 00:16:50,051 --> 00:16:51,636 But, if they don't, if they say, "Oh, okay, no, 384 00:16:51,928 --> 00:16:53,888 we don't have the money," whatever, we will continue 385 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,264 what we have been doing. 386 00:16:55,556 --> 00:16:56,974 We are not gonna let this go 387 00:16:57,266 --> 00:16:59,143 until there is money in the budget. 388 00:16:59,435 --> 00:17:01,145 -Agree? I agree. -Agreed. 389 00:17:01,437 --> 00:17:02,522 Yeah. 390 00:17:02,813 --> 00:17:05,107 (whirring) 391 00:17:05,399 --> 00:17:07,235 There are some people in any community of course 392 00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:09,946 who would say, well, you know, hate to put it this way, 393 00:17:10,238 --> 00:17:11,864 but, "Shoot them." 394 00:17:12,156 --> 00:17:13,908 We've moved beyond that, I'm sorry. 395 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,577 My name is Christopher Rogers, I am the supervisor 396 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,371 by-law enforcement for the city of Cornwall. 397 00:17:18,663 --> 00:17:20,331 ♪ 398 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:22,124 It's easy to assess that 399 00:17:22,416 --> 00:17:23,501 this is something unique to this community. 400 00:17:23,793 --> 00:17:24,877 It is not. 401 00:17:25,169 --> 00:17:27,129 The other municipalities have set up programs, 402 00:17:27,421 --> 00:17:29,006 usually subsidized programs, so let's be real, 403 00:17:29,298 --> 00:17:30,466 it's about money. 404 00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:40,601 ♪ 405 00:17:42,186 --> 00:17:45,815 Calgary is celebrated as a prime example 406 00:17:46,107 --> 00:17:48,818 of what it takes to manage 407 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:51,362 and stabilize cat populations. 408 00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:53,489 They have ample resources. 409 00:17:53,781 --> 00:17:55,533 They're a rich city. 410 00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:57,034 We are not Calgary. 411 00:17:57,326 --> 00:17:58,744 (whirring) 412 00:17:59,036 --> 00:18:02,873 Simply not a matter of helping to support TNR programs. 413 00:18:03,165 --> 00:18:05,376 It comes down to, I believe, financial ability. 414 00:18:05,668 --> 00:18:06,877 (engine puttering) 415 00:18:07,169 --> 00:18:10,423 Cornwall was formerly a heavy industrial town. 416 00:18:10,715 --> 00:18:11,841 That is no more. 417 00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:14,302 Those very-well-paying jobs are gone. 418 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:15,970 (beeping) 419 00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:17,555 And again, we're talking about setting aside 420 00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,224 fair chunks of change to deal with cats, 421 00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:21,726 when there are people in this city 422 00:18:22,018 --> 00:18:24,520 who have to decide whether they want 423 00:18:24,812 --> 00:18:26,272 to pay the rent or eat. 424 00:18:26,564 --> 00:18:28,357 (chewing) 425 00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:31,152 (clinking) 426 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:34,405 (whirring) 427 00:18:34,697 --> 00:18:36,699 (clicking) 428 00:18:36,991 --> 00:18:42,455 ♪ 429 00:18:42,747 --> 00:18:45,541 (thudding) 430 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:48,961 (clinking) 431 00:18:49,253 --> 00:18:52,882 So, for my rescue, people can drop off empties and donations, 432 00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:54,884 which helps pay the vet bills. 433 00:18:55,176 --> 00:18:56,302 (clinking) 434 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:58,429 Big ones are worth 20 cents. 435 00:18:58,721 --> 00:19:00,890 Small ones are worth 10 cents. 436 00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:02,141 So, every bit helps. 437 00:19:02,433 --> 00:19:04,977 And, um, yeah, cash them in. 438 00:19:05,269 --> 00:19:08,397 (clinking) 439 00:19:08,689 --> 00:19:11,150 ♪ 440 00:19:11,442 --> 00:19:13,402 It costs a lot to run a rescue when you're one person 441 00:19:13,694 --> 00:19:15,029 doing it yourself. 442 00:19:15,321 --> 00:19:16,530 But, here we are. 443 00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:18,115 I mean, hopefully this city steps up 444 00:19:18,407 --> 00:19:20,076 and helps people like me 445 00:19:20,368 --> 00:19:22,995 who are trying to do their part, I guess. 446 00:19:23,287 --> 00:19:30,961 ♪ 447 00:19:31,253 --> 00:19:33,631 I don't know what it is, but it's half rewarding 448 00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:35,091 and half devastating. 449 00:19:35,383 --> 00:19:37,468 So, I do rescue and I go home. 450 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,221 Like, I don't have a social life or anything, 451 00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:42,890 So, kittens. 452 00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:47,019 (rattling) 453 00:19:47,311 --> 00:19:49,563 (whirring) 454 00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,567 She's a fighter, she's a big fighter. 455 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:55,486 She's like, what, 27 maybe. 456 00:19:55,778 --> 00:19:58,656 I don't think I was that much of a fighter at that age. 457 00:19:58,948 --> 00:20:01,701 I'm learning, as she's learning, that we have one fight. 458 00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:04,328 That's to help the cats in Cornwall. 459 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:08,082 ♪ 460 00:20:08,374 --> 00:20:10,960 The problem started in East End. 461 00:20:11,252 --> 00:20:13,629 Low income area unfortunately. 462 00:20:13,921 --> 00:20:16,132 And if they're not fixed, you're gonna have kittens, 463 00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,175 and kittens, kittens-- that's the problem. 464 00:20:18,467 --> 00:20:19,635 (meowing) 465 00:20:19,927 --> 00:20:21,637 Some people still aren't getting it, 466 00:20:21,929 --> 00:20:23,514 which is very maddening to us. 467 00:20:23,806 --> 00:20:25,391 And we see things more than the councilors, 468 00:20:25,683 --> 00:20:27,226 like, they have no idea. 469 00:20:27,518 --> 00:20:28,644 You know, a couple of them said, "Well, it's not 470 00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:30,479 in my neighborhood," but if you don't fix 471 00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:33,065 the problem now, it will be in your neighborhood. 472 00:20:34,692 --> 00:20:36,652 So, whenever it all came about with the cats, 473 00:20:36,944 --> 00:20:39,739 I thought to myself, "How can I make people talk? 474 00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:41,615 How can I make people talk?" 475 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:45,661 ♪ 476 00:20:45,953 --> 00:20:47,204 I'm gonna run. 477 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:50,833 I'm gonna run for municipal election. 478 00:20:51,125 --> 00:20:52,293 I had one sign. 479 00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:55,087 This is my one election sign right here. 480 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:56,630 And I put the sign all over, 481 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:58,382 and then people will think, "Oh, my God, 482 00:20:58,674 --> 00:21:01,218 she has all these signs"-- no, I only had one sign, okay. 483 00:21:01,510 --> 00:21:04,388 -You ready? -There we go. 484 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,890 Easy come, easy go. 485 00:21:06,182 --> 00:21:08,392 ♪ 486 00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:10,186 And I had one ad in the newspaper, 487 00:21:10,478 --> 00:21:12,313 which was amazing, because usually 488 00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:14,482 the people would have a picture of their face, you know. 489 00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:17,985 No, no, not me, I had a picture of a bloody cat in a trap. 490 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,945 ♪ 491 00:21:20,237 --> 00:21:22,698 As I said, a vote for me was a vote for the cats. 492 00:21:22,990 --> 00:21:25,242 Got a couple emails saying, "Oh, my God, I can't believe 493 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:27,077 you're running just on this platform,” 494 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:28,829 and I said, "Yes, yes, I am." 495 00:21:29,121 --> 00:21:30,164 But, that was fine, you're gonna 496 00:21:30,456 --> 00:21:31,916 have haters everywhere. 497 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:33,334 You just deal with 'em. 498 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:36,420 ♪ 499 00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:38,631 Time to go find out the election results. 500 00:21:38,923 --> 00:21:40,466 ♪ 501 00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:41,759 We're doing well, we are. 502 00:21:42,051 --> 00:21:43,302 I wanted 400. 503 00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:44,845 This is awesome. 504 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:47,306 I know I'm not gonna get in. 505 00:21:47,598 --> 00:21:49,225 I knew that from the beginning, but this is 506 00:21:49,517 --> 00:21:52,728 an awareness campaign, and this is where we're at. 507 00:21:53,020 --> 00:21:55,648 So, we were looking at the screen, Mellissa and I, 508 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:58,192 and, "Oh, my God, it's going up." 509 00:21:58,484 --> 00:22:00,486 ♪ 510 00:22:00,778 --> 00:22:02,780 I was hoping maybe for 500 votes, 511 00:22:03,072 --> 00:22:05,574 and I got 1,532 votes 512 00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:08,828 all over my one platform. 513 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,705 So, that was pretty good, got people talking. 514 00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:13,791 ♪ 515 00:22:14,083 --> 00:22:15,835 Well, there should be a program where they at least 516 00:22:16,126 --> 00:22:18,087 capture them and spay or neuter them, 517 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:20,548 and, uh, you know, but they don't. 518 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,633 Seems like it's a never-ending circle 519 00:22:22,925 --> 00:22:24,844 for years and years, and honestly, 520 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:27,680 I think that by now it would change 521 00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:29,849 much more than this. 522 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:32,726 -That's minor. - I think there's a lot 523 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:35,437 more important things to be looking at 524 00:22:35,729 --> 00:22:38,190 than cats. 525 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:39,942 Well, my way of looking at them is, 526 00:22:40,234 --> 00:22:41,402 they're better to put them to sleep 527 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:44,613 than letting 'em die cruelly 528 00:22:44,905 --> 00:22:47,324 Last time it was pigeons, four years ago, 529 00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:50,828 and now it's cats, so we have all nature, 530 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,539 creatures we have to deal with. 531 00:22:53,831 --> 00:22:56,041 If you own a cat, they should be in the house, 532 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:58,627 and you should take them to the vet regularly. 533 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:00,462 But, a lot of people don't think that way, 534 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:02,423 you know, they believe, eh, should be outside, 535 00:23:02,715 --> 00:23:05,217 and they don't really care for them. 536 00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:07,177 ♪ 537 00:23:07,469 --> 00:23:09,597 Well, I'd like for the city to be involved in it 538 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,849 and get them fixed. 539 00:23:12,141 --> 00:23:13,309 Right now they're doing nothing at all. 540 00:23:13,601 --> 00:23:14,977 It's just going out of control. 541 00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:17,146 They wanna talk about feral cats, 542 00:23:17,438 --> 00:23:20,900 talk--okay, talk about bugs. 543 00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:24,320 Do you think Cornwall has a problem with cats? 544 00:23:24,612 --> 00:23:27,990 No, I would say we have a problem with people. 545 00:23:28,282 --> 00:23:30,284 ♪ 546 00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:34,538 They'll end up staying in that pile of a mess over there. 547 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:36,081 Unwanted cats. 548 00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:38,167 So, we put food and water, 549 00:23:38,459 --> 00:23:40,794 because I can't let them starve. 550 00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:42,630 ♪ 551 00:23:42,922 --> 00:23:45,674 When I look into their eyes, it's like I feel like 552 00:23:45,966 --> 00:23:48,469 I can see their soul, and I feel like 553 00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,471 their loneliness or their pain, 554 00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:52,848 and I just--I just have to help. 555 00:23:55,893 --> 00:23:57,978 Typically invasive species are viewed as being 556 00:23:58,270 --> 00:23:59,521 quite harmful. 557 00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:01,273 But, unfortunately, how we view cats 558 00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:03,108 is much different 'cause our deep connection 559 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,527 with our pets. 560 00:24:05,819 --> 00:24:08,405 It's very easy for me to say, "Go keep your cat inside." 561 00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:10,991 But, the reality is that that's not always easy. 562 00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:12,409 We're working with human behavior, 563 00:24:12,701 --> 00:24:14,203 and we're also working with cat behavior, 564 00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:16,830 and that's what makes them a very complicated 565 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:20,042 and complex conservation issue. 566 00:24:20,334 --> 00:24:22,628 In neighborhoods where people don't have a lot of money, 567 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,380 these neighborhoods may benefit from 568 00:24:24,672 --> 00:24:27,091 subsidized spay and neuter, 569 00:24:27,383 --> 00:24:29,760 and also education campaigns that are targeted 570 00:24:30,052 --> 00:24:31,553 in those neighborhoods that can help reduce 571 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:33,973 the number of cats that are being thrown outside. 572 00:24:34,264 --> 00:24:36,308 ♪ 573 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,811 (meowing) 574 00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:41,438 ♪ 575 00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:44,066 (whirring) 576 00:24:46,902 --> 00:24:48,696 The neighbors here next door 577 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:51,573 were furious about the cats. 578 00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:54,451 Didn't want me feeding 'em, nothing, 579 00:24:54,743 --> 00:24:58,789 and they eventually had to move away. 580 00:24:59,081 --> 00:25:01,375 It was the fact that a pair of kittens 581 00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:04,003 came along and were looking for food, 582 00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:07,297 and then I had five kittens come along looking for food, 583 00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:09,174 and I fed them. 584 00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:10,759 That's how it started. 585 00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:13,303 ♪ 586 00:25:13,595 --> 00:25:15,639 Twice a day that I come down with a dish 587 00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:17,766 of dry and wet food. 588 00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:20,352 ♪ 589 00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:22,563 I'm not sure if it's a problem of cats 590 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,440 or a problem of mice. 591 00:25:24,732 --> 00:25:26,567 They're not around, there's more mice. 592 00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:29,236 There's even a rat showed up here. 593 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:32,364 I mean, I don't particularly want them in my home, 594 00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:34,867 so having the cats around 595 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:37,411 is part of life. 596 00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,749 (birds chirping) 597 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:44,376 (rustling) 598 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:49,298 Everyone's doing really well. 599 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:51,258 They all had their surgeries and are recovered 600 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:54,178 so they can go to their forever homes. 601 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:56,096 Hey, babes. 602 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,475 So, everyone's, like, a full-on kitten now. 603 00:25:59,767 --> 00:26:01,977 Proper kitten, no more bottles. 604 00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:03,604 Jackson took the longest. 605 00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:07,107 He was still eight weeks old and on a bottle. 606 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,902 He ended up with almost 60,000 Likes 607 00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:12,613 on his little photo, SO my page blew up 608 00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:13,864 after that a little bit. 609 00:26:14,156 --> 00:26:16,241 (ticking) 610 00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:18,494 They're really easy going because they're used to people. 611 00:26:18,786 --> 00:26:19,703 I mean, that's all they know, right? 612 00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:21,997 They didn't have a cat mom. 613 00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:24,500 Babe, my new pants. 614 00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:27,377 My new pants, love. 615 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:30,255 And they just are obsessed with everybody. 616 00:26:30,547 --> 00:26:32,216 Hey, buddy. 617 00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:33,467 You like people, eh? 618 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:34,718 No. 619 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:36,845 No thanks, no thanks, no thanks. 620 00:26:37,137 --> 00:26:40,015 (rustling) 621 00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,643 (chimes dinging) 622 00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:48,565 Have they been around for a long time? 623 00:26:48,857 --> 00:26:50,484 I've been looking after these guys 624 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:53,403 for two months. 625 00:26:53,695 --> 00:26:55,864 A man moved in next door to a lady 626 00:26:56,156 --> 00:26:58,700 that was helping feed a colony. 627 00:26:58,992 --> 00:27:01,411 And within 24 hours of him being there, 628 00:27:01,703 --> 00:27:03,288 he put poison in the water. 629 00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:05,541 Two moms and two litters were found dead 630 00:27:05,833 --> 00:27:07,334 all over the backyard. 631 00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,921 I think there's probably about eight cats went down. 632 00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:14,133 Within days, they turned up, 633 00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:16,802 and they were just little kittens. 634 00:27:17,094 --> 00:27:18,428 There was kittens found dead on the road. 635 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,223 There was one cat decapitated by this man. 636 00:27:21,515 --> 00:27:22,683 The cats scattered in all directions, 637 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,935 and they came this way. 638 00:27:25,227 --> 00:27:28,105 So, that's why I inherited these little guys. 639 00:27:28,397 --> 00:27:29,773 So, that's Guimauve, 640 00:27:30,065 --> 00:27:31,275 and the other little boy, 641 00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:33,360 that's George. 642 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,529 Oh, my God, he's so cute. 643 00:27:37,447 --> 00:27:40,117 So, how many cats do you think are actually around here then? 644 00:27:40,409 --> 00:27:42,744 I usually have six guaranteed. 645 00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:44,413 (meowing) 646 00:27:44,705 --> 00:27:45,664 You wanna just come with me for a second? 647 00:27:45,956 --> 00:27:47,958 I'll show you. 648 00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:51,170 Lisa, because she's not part of this, is staying away. 649 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:52,379 -Really? -Well, she doesn't wanna 650 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:54,506 come in here, so I brought a crate out 651 00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:56,550 and put straw inside. 652 00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:58,844 But, she keeps having lots of kittens. 653 00:27:59,136 --> 00:28:00,929 She needs to be caught. 654 00:28:01,221 --> 00:28:03,765 -Oh. -Last winter-- 655 00:28:04,057 --> 00:28:04,975 -Mellissa? -Yeah? 656 00:28:05,267 --> 00:28:07,186 -She ate her babies. -Ate them? 657 00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:11,190 I was like, "I didn't know cats did that." 658 00:28:13,066 --> 00:28:14,484 It's gonna be an interesting winter. 659 00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:15,903 Mhm. 660 00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:18,405 (bird cawing) 661 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:28,540 ♪ 662 00:28:47,226 --> 00:28:49,394 The cats are dying. 663 00:28:49,686 --> 00:28:51,396 A lot of them do freeze, 664 00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:54,399 and they're also starving. 665 00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:57,027 I believe tonight is gonna be -11, 666 00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,279 and that's pretty cold. 667 00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:00,781 So, we're gonna be doing some trapping 668 00:29:01,073 --> 00:29:02,532 in the next couple of days. 669 00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:04,076 We put the traps out with some food, 670 00:29:04,368 --> 00:29:07,412 and a lot of times we just wait around. 671 00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:09,706 So, hopefully we have five to six cats 672 00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:12,251 tomorrow morning, and going to the vet. 673 00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:14,878 (whirring) 674 00:29:17,714 --> 00:29:19,841 ♪ 675 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:21,301 -Morning. -Good morning. 676 00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:23,512 How are you? You're supposed to be sleeping. 677 00:29:23,804 --> 00:29:26,390 I know. 678 00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:27,683 Here we go. 679 00:29:27,975 --> 00:29:29,559 Oh, smaller, yes. 680 00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:30,978 Hey, there he is. 681 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:32,229 Yes, hello. 682 00:29:32,521 --> 00:29:33,438 -Okay, got it? -Yeah. 683 00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:34,564 You take--you take this one. 684 00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:36,233 -Okay. -Okay? 685 00:29:36,525 --> 00:29:38,151 Maarten and I, we're the only two people in Cornwall 686 00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:39,611 that do the trapping. 687 00:29:39,903 --> 00:29:43,240 75 cats over 3 years, which is quite good. 688 00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:45,867 Maarten, strong willed, hard head. 689 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:47,411 Loves animals for sure. 690 00:29:47,703 --> 00:29:48,745 He's a good friend. 691 00:29:49,037 --> 00:29:50,706 We both love cats, and we have to do 692 00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:53,417 what we have to do. 693 00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:55,127 (indistinct remarks) 694 00:29:55,419 --> 00:29:56,628 But, I've been dealing with Lynda for five years, 695 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,381 so she knows what's going on. 696 00:29:59,673 --> 00:30:01,675 -Probably 4:00. -Okay, I'll be here. 697 00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:03,051 Okay, thanks, talk to you later. 698 00:30:03,343 --> 00:30:04,970 -Appreciate it. -Bye. 699 00:30:05,262 --> 00:30:09,141 ♪ 700 00:30:09,433 --> 00:30:11,518 (thudding) 701 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:14,813 Here in Cornwall the vet charges way too much money. 702 00:30:15,105 --> 00:30:18,317 So, that's why we go to Saint-Zotique, Quebec. 703 00:30:18,608 --> 00:30:22,237 So, the prices in Saint-Zotique are about $130 for a male, 704 00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:24,281 and $155 for a female. 705 00:30:24,573 --> 00:30:27,993 To get a cat spayed or neutered in Cornwall is $500. 706 00:30:28,285 --> 00:30:30,537 ♪ 707 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:33,040 (meowing) 708 00:30:33,332 --> 00:30:37,753 ♪ 709 00:30:38,045 --> 00:30:40,255 (clicking) 710 00:30:40,547 --> 00:30:42,549 ♪ 711 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,509 We're gonna take the traps in first, right? 712 00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:45,719 -Yeah. -Yeah, we'll come back 713 00:30:46,011 --> 00:30:47,304 for the carriers. 714 00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:48,972 ♪ 715 00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:50,891 Right, big fella? 716 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:52,184 Not happy, eh? 717 00:30:52,476 --> 00:30:53,685 This ones a scared one. 718 00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:56,229 Here, don't worry, nobody's gonna hurt ya. 719 00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:59,316 You're gonna be fine. 720 00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:01,234 -Hello, good morning. -How are you? 721 00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:02,527 Good, how are you? 722 00:31:02,819 --> 00:31:05,030 (speaking French) 723 00:31:05,322 --> 00:31:06,948 ♪ 724 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,452 So, from here, Jen takes 'em into that room, 725 00:31:10,744 --> 00:31:13,955 checks them over and everything. 726 00:31:14,247 --> 00:31:16,416 (creaking) 727 00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:18,960 (phone ringing) 728 00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:21,088 -How many traps am I paying for? -Three. 729 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:23,090 -Three, yep. -Three traps? 730 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:26,259 I was able to raise the funds through my supporters 731 00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:30,389 for the three or four that are getting done today. 732 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,350 (meowing) 733 00:31:33,642 --> 00:31:35,268 I have to constantly ask people for money, 734 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,062 which I really hate doing. 735 00:31:37,354 --> 00:31:39,606 But, if I don't ask for help, then we don't make progress. 736 00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,400 (buzzing) 737 00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:45,028 We need a better plan, we have tons of kittens being born, 738 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,073 tons of ferals reproducing, like, it's just never ending. 739 00:31:48,365 --> 00:31:50,992 (humming) 740 00:31:51,284 --> 00:31:54,329 There's like so many of them dying outside, the cats, 741 00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:55,997 they're dying outside. 742 00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:59,084 (buzzing) 743 00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:01,169 (phone ringing) 744 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:07,676 (beeping) 745 00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:12,139 (speaking French) 746 00:32:17,686 --> 00:32:19,980 (clinking) 747 00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:22,607 (beeping) 748 00:32:24,985 --> 00:32:26,361 My name is Lousie Lavallé. 749 00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:28,780 I'm a veterinarian who does surgeries, 750 00:32:29,072 --> 00:32:32,534 principally spaying and neutering for shelter cats, 751 00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:35,370 community cats, people with low income. 752 00:32:35,662 --> 00:32:37,873 (indistinct remarks) 753 00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:44,421 ♪ 754 00:32:44,713 --> 00:32:47,048 I would like municipalities or governments 755 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,385 having regulations, so every animal that is sold 756 00:32:50,677 --> 00:32:54,389 in a pet store or from breeders are fixed. 757 00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:56,641 Because, me, I'm doing sterilization. 758 00:32:56,933 --> 00:32:59,644 But, the problem, I'm always doing sterilization. 759 00:32:59,936 --> 00:33:01,188 I want this to decrease. 760 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,565 But, if there is always animals coming 761 00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:05,358 that are not sterilized. 762 00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:07,527 (beeping) 763 00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:09,279 It's like when you have a problem 764 00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:11,364 with your water and your tap. 765 00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:14,326 The water is running over the sink on your floor. 766 00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:17,370 You're gonna get a towel to remove all the water. 767 00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:20,499 But, you're gonna close the tap first, okay. 768 00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:23,919 That's the same thing for the cats. 769 00:33:24,211 --> 00:33:27,088 Somebody has to close the tap. 770 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:29,591 (beeping) 771 00:33:29,883 --> 00:33:37,432 ♪ 772 00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:40,060 (chimes dinging) 773 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,359 (indistinct remarks) 774 00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,279 Yeah, that's the one. 775 00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:52,989 Okay, you. 776 00:33:54,616 --> 00:33:57,410 -Thank you, Lynda. -You're welcome, thank you. 777 00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:04,125 (meowing) 778 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,130 (chirping) 779 00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:12,133 Wow, that's fascinating. 780 00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:14,844 ♪ 781 00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:17,472 The TNR cats always come together in a group. 782 00:34:17,764 --> 00:34:19,266 ♪ 783 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:21,309 (meowing) 784 00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:23,603 ♪ 785 00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,230 Oh, that's, uh, Guimauve. 786 00:34:25,522 --> 00:34:27,148 (meowing) 787 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,901 The water's frozen. 788 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:33,154 He's pulling the water bowl towards him. 789 00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:35,365 He's trying to break the ice. 790 00:34:35,657 --> 00:34:38,535 ♪ 791 00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:40,787 He's pretty determined to get a drink. 792 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:42,956 ♪ 793 00:34:43,248 --> 00:34:44,457 He's using his head. 794 00:34:44,749 --> 00:34:46,209 ♪ 795 00:34:46,501 --> 00:34:48,670 That's hilarious. 796 00:34:48,962 --> 00:34:50,755 Guimauve, he's very, very curious, 797 00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:54,134 and he's the one I'm most concerned about in the summer. 798 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,511 He's going to get himself in trouble. 799 00:34:56,803 --> 00:34:58,930 ♪ 800 00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:00,724 Maybe if people could see these movies of them, 801 00:35:01,016 --> 00:35:04,894 they wouldn't be so anxious, you know, to hurt them, 802 00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:07,230 poison them, trap them. 803 00:35:07,522 --> 00:35:10,775 Like the guy that poisoned all the cats on the street. 804 00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:12,360 (cat mewing) 805 00:35:12,652 --> 00:35:14,237 When people like me are feeding the feral cats, 806 00:35:14,529 --> 00:35:16,448 they're no longer going into the garbage. 807 00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:18,366 There's no fights on the street. 808 00:35:18,658 --> 00:35:20,702 But still, people don't want the cats. 809 00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:22,746 ♪ 810 00:35:23,038 --> 00:35:24,664 I don't know why he's chubby like that, 811 00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:27,459 but he's got a real cute, lovable character. 812 00:35:27,751 --> 00:35:30,795 ♪ 813 00:35:31,087 --> 00:35:32,213 He would have made a good pet. 814 00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:40,138 ♪ 815 00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:41,723 The cats are all over. 816 00:35:42,015 --> 00:35:43,933 I am finding out more and more from other people 817 00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:46,436 that they are having problems as well 818 00:35:46,728 --> 00:35:48,855 and they are feeding ten cats or more. 819 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,899 I am thinking, okay, how many houses, 820 00:35:51,191 --> 00:35:52,567 how many people are doing this? 821 00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,653 I can't save them all. 822 00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:56,655 As of three weeks ago, 823 00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:59,032 we were about 5,000 still in debt 824 00:35:59,324 --> 00:36:00,700 and that's a lot of money. 825 00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:02,786 That's crazy. 826 00:36:03,078 --> 00:36:05,413 The city of Cornwall. It's just frustrating. 827 00:36:05,705 --> 00:36:08,166 It takes so friggin' long to get anywhere. 828 00:36:08,458 --> 00:36:09,959 Which, I get, like, it's not their priority, 829 00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:13,880 but...the kittens are coming. 830 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,383 Truly, I think they're ignoring us right now. 831 00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:21,096 (telephone ringing) 832 00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:23,765 You have reached the building and bylaw department. 833 00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:26,101 If you are calling to schedule an inspection 834 00:36:26,393 --> 00:36:28,144 or to make a bylaw complaint, 835 00:36:28,436 --> 00:36:30,397 please leave me a message and I'll call you back. 836 00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:31,731 Thank you. 837 00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,358 (dial tone) 838 00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:36,486 ♪ 839 00:36:36,778 --> 00:36:39,114 (hum of passing traffic) 840 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,704 We're both getting fed up. 841 00:36:45,995 --> 00:36:48,873 Like it's time to get the money into the budget. 842 00:36:49,165 --> 00:36:51,334 Like, don't fool around with us anymore, we're done. 843 00:36:51,626 --> 00:36:52,877 ♪ 844 00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:54,337 Next week is Christmas, 845 00:36:54,629 --> 00:36:56,131 and I'm thinking about the bloody cats. 846 00:36:56,423 --> 00:36:57,716 Minus twenty or whatever. 847 00:36:58,007 --> 00:36:59,551 That kills me, it really does. 848 00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:02,554 So you sort of feel defeated in a way. 849 00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:05,473 But you can't let it get you down, 850 00:37:05,765 --> 00:37:07,600 you gotta keep on going. 851 00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:10,520 I got hooked up with a woman named Brigit 852 00:37:10,812 --> 00:37:12,230 and I had no idea, 853 00:37:12,522 --> 00:37:14,941 Lynda lives like one minute away around the corner. 854 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:19,446 So close, we're talking like another 10 cats in one house. 855 00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:21,781 Her and her husband, they're feeding the cats 856 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:24,033 but they're also multiplying because they can't afford 857 00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:26,202 to spay or neuter them. 858 00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:27,954 We should have a meeting one night, we should all 859 00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:30,582 get together and just try and get other people involved. 860 00:37:30,874 --> 00:37:32,375 I want to find out if there's more houses like this. 861 00:37:32,667 --> 00:37:34,085 -I really, really do. -I'm sure there is 862 00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:36,504 because I've heard rumors and neighbors talk. 863 00:37:36,796 --> 00:37:38,965 So there's a couple of people down the street here 864 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:41,968 who are feeding and I want to find out who it is. 865 00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:43,553 There's a cat right there, there's a cat right there, 866 00:37:43,845 --> 00:37:46,222 right across the street. 867 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:48,683 There's lots of cats here. 868 00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:50,977 I've left three traps at Brigit's, 869 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:52,937 gone over everything with her, 870 00:37:53,229 --> 00:37:54,439 and hopefully all goes well. 871 00:37:54,731 --> 00:38:02,030 ♪ 872 00:38:02,322 --> 00:38:03,990 (crow cawing) 873 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:07,619 ♪ 874 00:38:07,911 --> 00:38:08,995 My name is Brigit Lueck 875 00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:11,915 and I am just recently from Vancouver. 876 00:38:12,207 --> 00:38:13,875 Oh my God. 877 00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:16,544 I came here and I'm like, "What's up with all the cats? 878 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:18,046 They're, like, everywhere." 879 00:38:18,338 --> 00:38:19,255 Okay. 880 00:38:19,547 --> 00:38:20,632 ♪ 881 00:38:20,924 --> 00:38:22,926 Here, there is no organized strategy 882 00:38:23,218 --> 00:38:25,303 around the feral cats. 883 00:38:25,595 --> 00:38:26,930 A lot of people are pretty overwhelmed. 884 00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:28,890 Like, that's kind of what happened with us too 885 00:38:29,182 --> 00:38:30,183 when we came here. 886 00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:31,851 Can you get that one? 887 00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:33,812 We just couldn't, you know, 888 00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:39,150 neuter like 12 cats that are coming through, right? 889 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:42,862 So it's an overwhelming situation at the moment. 890 00:38:43,154 --> 00:38:44,572 -How are you? -Hello. 891 00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:45,990 Hey, how are you? 892 00:38:46,282 --> 00:38:47,700 It's okay. You have a pretty tail too, eh? 893 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:50,370 Different colors. Different colors. 894 00:38:50,662 --> 00:38:51,663 Okay. 895 00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:54,290 (hum of passing traffic) 896 00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:59,212 He's really heavy. 897 00:38:59,504 --> 00:39:02,507 I think it's a male just by the size of his face 898 00:39:02,799 --> 00:39:03,800 and of his neck. 899 00:39:04,092 --> 00:39:07,136 They develop more muscle when they are male 900 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:09,222 because of the testosterone. 901 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:10,849 Of course, he's still stressed, 902 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:13,560 but we're going to try to have him come here. 903 00:39:13,852 --> 00:39:15,812 Come, come. 904 00:39:16,104 --> 00:39:18,439 -(cat hisses) -Okay. 905 00:39:18,731 --> 00:39:19,858 (hisses) 906 00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:22,485 ♪ 907 00:39:22,777 --> 00:39:24,279 (clippers buzzing) 908 00:39:24,571 --> 00:39:31,536 ♪ 909 00:39:31,828 --> 00:39:33,329 (cat meowing) 910 00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:35,039 Okay. 911 00:39:35,331 --> 00:39:36,249 Ready? Hold on. 912 00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:38,543 ♪ 913 00:39:38,835 --> 00:39:39,752 Perfect. 914 00:39:40,044 --> 00:39:40,962 Happy. 915 00:39:41,254 --> 00:39:42,005 Great. 916 00:39:42,297 --> 00:39:44,465 Okay. Ohh. 917 00:39:44,757 --> 00:39:52,682 ♪ 918 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,269 (crows cawing) 919 00:39:58,229 --> 00:40:00,607 Are you alert? I put a little bit of food here 920 00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:02,859 just to see if she'd eat and she did eat. 921 00:40:03,151 --> 00:40:05,445 So she's alert, and I think ready to go. 922 00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:08,406 ♪ 923 00:40:08,698 --> 00:40:10,283 (cat mewling) 924 00:40:10,575 --> 00:40:20,418 ♪ 925 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,923 (cat yowling) 926 00:40:25,214 --> 00:40:27,759 Okay. This one is a little bit upset. 927 00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:31,763 That's also a good sign because she's a fighter, obviously. 928 00:40:32,055 --> 00:40:33,723 (cat yowling) 929 00:40:34,015 --> 00:40:40,897 ♪ 930 00:40:41,189 --> 00:40:44,275 (cat yowling) 931 00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:46,235 You ready, pumpkin? 932 00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:49,614 (bird cawing) 933 00:40:49,906 --> 00:40:52,617 ♪ 934 00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:54,202 Taking his time, actually. 935 00:40:54,494 --> 00:41:03,711 ♪ 936 00:41:06,381 --> 00:41:08,132 (crunching) 937 00:41:08,424 --> 00:41:09,592 (bird chittering) 938 00:41:09,884 --> 00:41:16,766 ♪ 939 00:41:17,058 --> 00:41:18,101 That's it. 940 00:41:18,393 --> 00:41:19,978 Three trapped, three released. 941 00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:25,358 ♪ 942 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:28,403 Right now, I don't think science has really figured out 943 00:41:28,695 --> 00:41:30,321 what is best in all situations. 944 00:41:30,613 --> 00:41:32,365 It's hard to say if trap-neuter-release 945 00:41:32,657 --> 00:41:35,410 is actually effective at reducing cat populations. 946 00:41:35,702 --> 00:41:38,287 We might reduce the original number of cats 947 00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:40,498 that were in a trap-neuter-release colony, 948 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:42,750 but you can still have cats come into that colony 949 00:41:43,042 --> 00:41:44,752 from other areas. 950 00:41:45,044 --> 00:41:48,047 For it to be effective, it would need to be continuous. 951 00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:50,133 Every cat that comes into that population, 952 00:41:50,425 --> 00:41:52,635 we'd need to make sure that it is spayed or neutered. 953 00:41:52,927 --> 00:42:02,770 ♪ 954 00:42:06,065 --> 00:42:08,317 ♪ 955 00:42:08,609 --> 00:42:10,653 (soft lapping) 956 00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:12,071 (soft mewing) 957 00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:13,531 (bell jingling) 958 00:42:13,823 --> 00:42:16,159 Boys, boys. 959 00:42:16,451 --> 00:42:18,119 You're such bad boys, stop. 960 00:42:18,411 --> 00:42:20,496 ♪ 961 00:42:20,788 --> 00:42:23,207 (cats mewing, chittering) 962 00:42:23,499 --> 00:42:31,591 ♪ 963 00:42:31,883 --> 00:42:33,760 They all have homes, we're just waiting to figure out 964 00:42:34,052 --> 00:42:37,513 when the families can arrange for me to drop them off. 965 00:42:37,805 --> 00:42:39,015 I just prefer to see where they're going 966 00:42:39,307 --> 00:42:40,641 because it makes me feel a little bit better 967 00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:42,935 when they leave me. 968 00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:46,189 So, yeah, I always drop them off no matter how far it is. 969 00:42:46,481 --> 00:42:47,190 Get back down. 970 00:42:47,482 --> 00:42:48,900 (she laughs) 971 00:42:49,192 --> 00:42:51,778 Monkey, that's why we don't open the window. 972 00:42:52,070 --> 00:42:55,948 Today, he is going to go to his forever home, unfortunately. 973 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:57,325 Well, I mean, it's bittersweet. 974 00:42:57,617 --> 00:42:59,494 It's happy because he's gonna have more space 975 00:42:59,786 --> 00:43:02,121 and a family who can give him more attention. 976 00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:05,249 But it's always bittersweet when they leave. 977 00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:07,001 (soft purring) 978 00:43:07,293 --> 00:43:13,966 ♪ 979 00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:15,635 Ready to go, bud? 980 00:43:15,927 --> 00:43:17,762 (meowing) 981 00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:27,855 ♪ 982 00:43:28,147 --> 00:43:29,607 (soft meowing) 983 00:43:29,899 --> 00:43:39,742 ♪ 984 00:43:47,875 --> 00:43:52,046 Jackson must wonder what's going on today. 985 00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:54,173 -Hello! -Go see! 986 00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:55,633 Let him go. 987 00:43:55,925 --> 00:43:57,677 What's that? 988 00:43:57,969 --> 00:43:59,095 Just let him do his thing, honey. 989 00:43:59,387 --> 00:44:00,555 Are you purring, love bug? 990 00:44:00,847 --> 00:44:01,722 (meowing) 991 00:44:02,014 --> 00:44:11,858 ♪ 992 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:26,080 Okay, we have microchip information. 993 00:44:26,372 --> 00:44:28,166 So you send it back to them with your information 994 00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:30,126 so that it changes over to you instead of me. 995 00:44:30,418 --> 00:44:31,169 Okay. 996 00:44:31,460 --> 00:44:34,422 This is his vaccination record. 997 00:44:34,714 --> 00:44:36,424 Okay. 998 00:44:36,716 --> 00:44:37,925 And it does say he's due for his next one, 999 00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:39,218 so you've made that appointment. 1000 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:40,887 Yup. 1001 00:44:41,179 --> 00:44:43,264 So then when I go to my November 11th appointment, 1002 00:44:43,556 --> 00:44:44,682 I'll just bring that and that's... 1003 00:44:44,974 --> 00:44:45,808 You can. 1004 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:48,227 ...to show them what he's had done, right? 1005 00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:51,272 Okay, okay. Perfect. 1006 00:44:51,564 --> 00:44:53,941 -Easy enough. -Mm-hm. 1007 00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:56,110 That's it. 1008 00:44:56,402 --> 00:44:58,738 Your mama's going, your mama, she going? 1009 00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:00,406 Yeah. 1010 00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:03,034 -Yeah. -He might be getting sleepy. 1011 00:45:03,326 --> 00:45:05,453 You need to give him a big squeeze and a big hug. 1012 00:45:05,745 --> 00:45:07,205 Bye, babe. 1013 00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:09,207 Say, you did a good job, Mama. 1014 00:45:09,498 --> 00:45:11,125 Hey? Look at you. 1015 00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:12,710 ♪ 1016 00:45:13,002 --> 00:45:14,086 Yeah. 1017 00:45:14,378 --> 00:45:15,713 Aww. 1018 00:45:16,005 --> 00:45:25,848 ♪ 1019 00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:33,314 How are you feeling right now? 1020 00:45:33,606 --> 00:45:35,733 Fine, actually, because they're such great people 1021 00:45:36,025 --> 00:45:37,526 that it makes it just, like, easy. 1022 00:45:37,818 --> 00:45:41,906 ♪ 1023 00:45:42,198 --> 00:45:44,909 (rumble of car and passing traffic) 1024 00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:49,121 (bird cawing) 1025 00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:53,167 ♪ 1026 00:45:53,459 --> 00:45:55,253 The TNR was wonderful, 1027 00:45:55,544 --> 00:45:57,838 but they're collecting friends. 1028 00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:03,135 ♪ 1029 00:46:03,427 --> 00:46:04,428 (cat mews) 1030 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:09,934 ♪ 1031 00:46:10,226 --> 00:46:11,435 (cat mewing) 1032 00:46:11,727 --> 00:46:17,692 ♪ 1033 00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:19,443 (food rattling in can) 1034 00:46:19,735 --> 00:46:22,697 ♪ 1035 00:46:22,989 --> 00:46:25,825 I don't mind the ones that I was made responsible for, 1036 00:46:26,117 --> 00:46:27,410 the ones that got TNR'd. 1037 00:46:27,702 --> 00:46:29,787 It's that now I'm seeing multiple cats 1038 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:31,580 that I haven't seen before 1039 00:46:31,872 --> 00:46:34,000 and I don't know how they communicate with each other, 1040 00:46:34,292 --> 00:46:37,586 how they all end up understanding that that house 1041 00:46:37,878 --> 00:46:40,423 has two little females that are not fixed 1042 00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:43,301 and there's males coming from blocks away 1043 00:46:43,592 --> 00:46:45,553 to mate with the cats. 1044 00:46:45,845 --> 00:46:47,305 I mean, all you need is two cats out, right? 1045 00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,307 One male, one female, and off we go again. 1046 00:46:49,598 --> 00:46:51,350 ♪ 1047 00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:55,021 And it's going to be a real issue with neighbors. 1048 00:46:55,313 --> 00:46:56,731 Areal issue. 1049 00:46:57,023 --> 00:46:59,483 There's going to be some very unhappy neighbors. 1050 00:46:59,775 --> 00:47:00,985 I'm afraid for the cats in the summer, 1051 00:47:01,277 --> 00:47:03,029 like I can't protect them. 1052 00:47:03,321 --> 00:47:04,947 ♪ 1053 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,866 (crow cawing) 1054 00:47:07,158 --> 00:47:08,242 ♪ 1055 00:47:08,534 --> 00:47:10,161 Australia is taking drastic measures 1056 00:47:10,453 --> 00:47:12,163 to control its cat population. 1057 00:47:12,455 --> 00:47:14,123 Government officials are launching a campaign 1058 00:47:14,415 --> 00:47:16,292 to kill more than two million cats. 1059 00:47:16,584 --> 00:47:19,337 Ecologists say feral cats are responsible for the extinctions 1060 00:47:19,628 --> 00:47:23,132 of more than two dozen native Australian species. 1061 00:47:23,424 --> 00:47:25,134 What to do with all these stray cats 1062 00:47:25,426 --> 00:47:27,553 has long been a problem here. 1063 00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:30,514 Japan has vowed to control the wild cat problem 1064 00:47:30,806 --> 00:47:32,350 in time for the Olympic Games. 1065 00:47:32,641 --> 00:47:37,813 (announcer speaking in French) 1066 00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:39,774 Cats are an invasive species, 1067 00:47:40,066 --> 00:47:42,902 so bad, they're killing billions of animals a year. 1068 00:47:43,194 --> 00:47:45,154 ♪ 1069 00:47:45,446 --> 00:47:47,156 It's an instinct in cats 1070 00:47:47,448 --> 00:47:50,368 when they see something small move along in front of them 1071 00:47:50,659 --> 00:47:52,370 they just have to go for it. 1072 00:47:52,661 --> 00:47:55,081 It's not the cats' fault at all. 1073 00:47:57,708 --> 00:47:59,710 ♪ 1074 00:48:00,002 --> 00:48:02,254 I'm Hannah Lockwood and I research 1075 00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:06,092 the impact of domestic cats on prey populations. 1076 00:48:06,384 --> 00:48:08,052 So, this is a cat skull. 1077 00:48:08,344 --> 00:48:10,429 First, you'll notice these huge eyes 1078 00:48:10,721 --> 00:48:13,349 which gives them great depth perception for stalking 1079 00:48:13,641 --> 00:48:16,143 and pouncing on prey. 1080 00:48:16,435 --> 00:48:18,979 They also have a separate organ 1081 00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,649 which is located behind the retina, 1082 00:48:21,941 --> 00:48:26,570 and that bounces light back through the retina and back out. 1083 00:48:26,862 --> 00:48:28,239 And that's why you get the eye shine 1084 00:48:28,531 --> 00:48:32,243 if you ever take a photo of a cat with the flash on. 1085 00:48:32,535 --> 00:48:35,579 This is a bank vole skull, 1086 00:48:35,871 --> 00:48:38,290 and it would get it just straight by the neck 1087 00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:40,709 and eat it pretty much whole 1088 00:48:41,001 --> 00:48:43,504 and then deliver a killing bite with their sharp teeth. 1089 00:48:43,796 --> 00:48:46,340 ♪ 1090 00:48:46,632 --> 00:48:48,843 So that's the cat skull. 1091 00:48:50,511 --> 00:48:53,889 (car horn honks) 1092 00:48:54,181 --> 00:48:56,183 The issue of there being cats in the environment 1093 00:48:56,475 --> 00:48:58,436 is one of the few, I think, 1094 00:48:58,727 --> 00:49:01,897 solvable environmental issues that we have. 1095 00:49:02,189 --> 00:49:03,399 And so it's going to be up to us, 1096 00:49:03,691 --> 00:49:05,109 and that includes cat owners, 1097 00:49:05,401 --> 00:49:07,361 it's going to include our shelter systems, 1098 00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:10,239 it's going to include governments as well. 1099 00:49:10,531 --> 00:49:12,116 We all generally want the same thing. 1100 00:49:12,408 --> 00:49:14,201 We want what's best for cats. 1101 00:49:14,493 --> 00:49:17,037 We want to reduce the number of cats that are outside, 1102 00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:18,330 and we want to reduce the impacts 1103 00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:20,166 that they have on the environment. 1104 00:49:20,458 --> 00:49:21,667 So, something's happened here. It looks like the cat p-- 1105 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:22,960 Oop, yeah, it did. 1106 00:49:23,252 --> 00:49:27,089 There's a chipmunk in its mouth. 1107 00:49:27,381 --> 00:49:29,633 And it's dropped the chipmunk now. 1108 00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:32,511 So, there's a few things we're hoping to do with this work 1109 00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:33,888 and maybe there's guidelines 1110 00:49:34,180 --> 00:49:35,848 that we can come about from this study 1111 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:37,516 that can help cat owners. 1112 00:49:37,808 --> 00:49:40,102 If they do feel they have to put their cat outside, 1113 00:49:40,394 --> 00:49:41,979 we can provide some guidelines on what's best 1114 00:49:42,271 --> 00:49:44,523 for their cat. 1115 00:49:44,815 --> 00:49:46,025 -Hey, come on in. -Hello, how are you? 1116 00:49:46,317 --> 00:49:48,486 Good, come on in. 1117 00:49:48,777 --> 00:49:52,573 Okay, I'll show you two videos here. 1118 00:49:52,865 --> 00:49:54,492 ♪ 1119 00:49:54,783 --> 00:49:55,993 So, I think he's just in your yard. 1120 00:49:56,285 --> 00:49:57,828 Maybe he's in someone else's yard. 1121 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,080 You see his head. 1122 00:50:00,372 --> 00:50:01,373 He's doing something, he just caught something. 1123 00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:02,541 -Oh, oh! -Mouse. 1124 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:05,544 No! Little critter. 1125 00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:06,795 So that's in his jaws right now? 1126 00:50:07,087 --> 00:50:09,089 -That's in his jaws. -Oh man. 1127 00:50:09,381 --> 00:50:10,758 Oh my gosh! 1128 00:50:11,050 --> 00:50:13,719 Yeah, so he actually captured stuff. 1129 00:50:14,011 --> 00:50:16,555 ♪ 1130 00:50:16,847 --> 00:50:18,807 Look what you've done. Are you proud of yourself? 1131 00:50:19,099 --> 00:50:22,228 ♪ 1132 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,939 So, when I talk to cat owners, 1133 00:50:25,231 --> 00:50:27,483 I try to talk about whether a cat 1134 00:50:27,775 --> 00:50:30,819 should belong inside or if it should be outside. 1135 00:50:31,111 --> 00:50:33,155 And certainly, we know that when cats are outside, 1136 00:50:33,447 --> 00:50:34,740 they get more exercise. 1137 00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:38,410 But the risk to the cat of being outside, in my opinion, 1138 00:50:38,702 --> 00:50:41,080 is far greater than those benefits. 1139 00:50:41,372 --> 00:50:42,998 And what cat owners really care about 1140 00:50:43,290 --> 00:50:45,000 is their cats and their cats' well being. 1141 00:50:45,292 --> 00:50:47,378 ♪ 1142 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:48,963 Comin' out, bud? 1143 00:50:49,255 --> 00:50:50,506 (whistles) 1144 00:50:50,798 --> 00:50:57,471 ♪ 1145 00:50:57,763 --> 00:50:59,515 Well, I think the public well understands 1146 00:50:59,807 --> 00:51:02,101 that cats sometimes kill other animals. 1147 00:51:02,393 --> 00:51:03,519 I mean, they're predators 1148 00:51:03,811 --> 00:51:04,603 and that's what they're designed to do, 1149 00:51:04,895 --> 00:51:06,897 and cats are not malicious-- 1150 00:51:07,189 --> 00:51:08,941 Or maybe they are in some cases-- 1151 00:51:09,233 --> 00:51:12,027 But, again, the problem is, there are just so many cats, 1152 00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:14,071 uh, and they're so good at what they do, 1153 00:51:14,363 --> 00:51:16,657 that, uh, literally, millions of birds 1154 00:51:16,949 --> 00:51:19,785 are being killed every year and they can least afford it. 1155 00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:22,413 We need to help these populations that are declining 1156 00:51:22,705 --> 00:51:25,207 because they're really integral to our forest 1157 00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:27,126 and grassland ecosystems. 1158 00:51:27,418 --> 00:51:28,586 A healthy nature. 1159 00:51:28,877 --> 00:51:30,713 And somebody's cat might bring back one bird 1160 00:51:31,005 --> 00:51:32,214 every couple of weeks and they think, 1161 00:51:32,506 --> 00:51:34,383 "Well, that's too bad. Bad kitty." 1162 00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:35,676 It's not really a problem 1163 00:51:35,968 --> 00:51:38,178 until you count up how many cats there are. 1164 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:41,056 And with millions of cats in Canada, that adds up. 1165 00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:43,684 That makes a huge difference. 1166 00:51:43,976 --> 00:51:46,145 That's okay. Come on. 1167 00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:47,688 (mewing) 1168 00:51:50,149 --> 00:51:51,817 Yes, baby. Hi. 1169 00:51:52,109 --> 00:51:52,985 Yes. 1170 00:51:53,277 --> 00:51:56,113 I lost three babies recently. 1171 00:51:56,405 --> 00:51:59,908 One just never grew, he was like newborn size at two weeks old. 1172 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,161 And the other one, she was born without a bladder. 1173 00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:04,830 So they had to euthanize her right there. 1174 00:52:05,122 --> 00:52:06,373 She was only four weeks old. 1175 00:52:06,665 --> 00:52:10,169 ♪ 1176 00:52:10,461 --> 00:52:12,588 Look at your little faces. 1177 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,006 (soft mewing) 1178 00:52:14,298 --> 00:52:15,424 Are you nursin' 'em? 1179 00:52:15,716 --> 00:52:18,302 I cry for a few days but then it's... move on, 1180 00:52:18,594 --> 00:52:20,638 "cause I still had other ones to save, so... 1181 00:52:20,929 --> 00:52:28,270 ♪ 1182 00:52:28,562 --> 00:52:32,441 These are my two foster babies, Indy and Ace. 1183 00:52:32,733 --> 00:52:37,279 They were being given away at four weeks old, 1184 00:52:37,571 --> 00:52:41,241 which is obviously too young, so I took them. 1185 00:52:41,533 --> 00:52:47,081 ♪ 1186 00:52:47,373 --> 00:52:49,583 -They are doing fine? -They're doing good. 1187 00:52:49,875 --> 00:52:52,252 I had antibiotics ready but I didn't need it. 1188 00:52:52,544 --> 00:52:53,420 Okay, good. 1189 00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:58,967 ♪ 1190 00:52:59,259 --> 00:53:00,260 -You did a good job. -Thank you. 1191 00:53:00,552 --> 00:53:02,304 -They are pretty big. -Yup. 1192 00:53:02,596 --> 00:53:04,848 So... Okay, two pounds and a quarter. 1193 00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:09,103 ♪ 1194 00:53:09,395 --> 00:53:11,063 -She didn't even know. -No, no, no. 1195 00:53:11,355 --> 00:53:12,189 ♪ 1196 00:53:12,481 --> 00:53:14,108 Mellissa, she's well organized. 1197 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,776 ♪ 1198 00:53:16,068 --> 00:53:18,404 It's not everybody that can deal with orphans. 1199 00:53:18,696 --> 00:53:21,490 ♪ 1200 00:53:21,782 --> 00:53:25,953 Giving is good, giving your time with the animal is good, 1201 00:53:26,245 --> 00:53:28,706 but you have to realize that you have 1202 00:53:28,997 --> 00:53:34,044 a certain limit because... 1203 00:53:34,336 --> 00:53:36,046 you can get lost. 1204 00:53:36,338 --> 00:53:38,298 (cats meowing) 1205 00:53:38,590 --> 00:53:42,553 ♪ 1206 00:53:42,845 --> 00:53:44,763 Okay, so this is both certificates. 1207 00:53:45,055 --> 00:53:47,766 -Okay, thank you. -You're welcome. 1208 00:53:48,058 --> 00:53:57,901 ♪ 1209 00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:02,072 Most of us see a roaming cat as a nuisance 1210 00:54:02,364 --> 00:54:04,158 that defecates in our garden bed, 1211 00:54:04,450 --> 00:54:05,951 it mates at one o'clock in the morning 1212 00:54:06,243 --> 00:54:08,620 in the middle of the street, that's the level of our concern. 1213 00:54:08,912 --> 00:54:13,625 But cats do impact negatively on our environment. 1214 00:54:13,917 --> 00:54:17,004 The only humane way to deal with the cat population 1215 00:54:17,296 --> 00:54:19,339 is through spay and neutering them. 1216 00:54:19,631 --> 00:54:22,217 Without it, it's totally uncontrolled. 1217 00:54:22,509 --> 00:54:23,927 And my feeling was 1218 00:54:24,219 --> 00:54:28,182 that people expected something to be done about it. 1219 00:54:28,474 --> 00:54:31,685 So we conducted a survey basically saying, 1220 00:54:31,977 --> 00:54:34,354 what do you think about it, what a bylaw might look like? 1221 00:54:34,646 --> 00:54:36,190 ♪ 1222 00:54:36,482 --> 00:54:39,485 One of the leading questions, of course, was 1223 00:54:39,777 --> 00:54:42,237 do you think we have a cat overpopulation problem 1224 00:54:42,529 --> 00:54:45,741 in Cornwall and that something needs to be done about it? 1225 00:54:46,033 --> 00:54:47,618 Bestow ownership on individuals, 1226 00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:50,204 require that all cats be kept indoors unless supervised, 1227 00:54:50,496 --> 00:54:53,165 limit the number of cats in the household to two. 1228 00:54:53,457 --> 00:54:55,584 Very important, of course, to have community input. 1229 00:54:55,876 --> 00:55:05,719 ♪ 1230 00:55:10,224 --> 00:55:11,683 We've been affected by it. 1231 00:55:11,975 --> 00:55:14,144 It's quite an ongoing issue. 1232 00:55:14,436 --> 00:55:17,189 It's getting out of control, that's for sure. 1233 00:55:17,481 --> 00:55:19,107 We have to do something about it. 1234 00:55:19,399 --> 00:55:20,609 ♪ 1235 00:55:20,901 --> 00:55:25,948 We were simply surprised at the level of response 1236 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,325 to a cat problem. 1237 00:55:28,617 --> 00:55:36,917 ♪ 1238 00:55:37,209 --> 00:55:38,710 This is not my neighbor's problem, 1239 00:55:39,002 --> 00:55:40,170 this is not my problem, 1240 00:55:40,462 --> 00:55:42,631 this is the entire community's problem 1241 00:55:42,923 --> 00:55:44,299 and it's not going to go away. 1242 00:55:44,591 --> 00:55:48,220 We have to accept that something has to be done about it 1243 00:55:48,512 --> 00:55:51,557 and there's probably going to be a cost to that. 1244 00:55:51,849 --> 00:55:55,185 What I recommended to council is that in the 2020 budget 1245 00:55:55,477 --> 00:55:59,773 we allocate $40,000 to subsidizing the cost 1246 00:56:00,065 --> 00:56:01,149 of spay and neutering. 1247 00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:02,818 That's a start. 1248 00:56:03,110 --> 00:56:11,326 ♪ 1249 00:56:11,618 --> 00:56:14,121 The bylaw that Chris wants to try and get through, 1250 00:56:14,413 --> 00:56:15,664 "If you feed it, you own it," 1251 00:56:15,956 --> 00:56:17,332 that is scaring people. 1252 00:56:17,624 --> 00:56:18,959 I don't want people to be scared 1253 00:56:19,251 --> 00:56:20,168 and I don't want people to say, 1254 00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:21,670 "Oh Lord, there's a cat out there, 1255 00:56:21,962 --> 00:56:23,422 we can't be responsible for it." 1256 00:56:23,714 --> 00:56:33,223 ♪ 1257 00:56:33,515 --> 00:56:36,101 The fact that somebody has enough charity 1258 00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:40,647 to give an animal a little better chance to survive 1259 00:56:40,939 --> 00:56:44,109 means you own them is a strange one, 1260 00:56:44,401 --> 00:56:46,570 as far as I'm concerned. 1261 00:56:46,862 --> 00:56:51,408 It goes along with the idea that if you give somebody some money 1262 00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:54,912 when they're begging that you own that person. 1263 00:56:55,203 --> 00:56:57,039 Makes just as much sense. 1264 00:56:57,331 --> 00:57:00,417 ♪ 1265 00:57:00,709 --> 00:57:02,836 People like Lynda, she's going to take care of them, 1266 00:57:03,128 --> 00:57:06,381 and even if the bylaw passes many people are still going to. 1267 00:57:06,673 --> 00:57:08,008 They don't want to see the cats suffer, 1268 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,302 so I don't blame them. 1269 00:57:12,179 --> 00:57:15,098 Simply feeding a cat, absolutely, that's important. 1270 00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:17,142 But if that cat is not spayed and neutered, 1271 00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:19,603 it's fueling a cat population 1272 00:57:19,895 --> 00:57:22,356 that we're trying to get under control. 1273 00:57:22,648 --> 00:57:24,274 I should just put it down here. 1274 00:57:26,193 --> 00:57:27,778 (bird chirping) 1275 00:57:28,070 --> 00:57:30,822 (hum of passing traffic) 1276 00:57:31,114 --> 00:57:33,492 ♪ 1277 00:57:33,784 --> 00:57:34,910 The city of Cornwall could become 1278 00:57:35,202 --> 00:57:36,745 the first municipality in Ontario 1279 00:57:37,037 --> 00:57:39,456 to require cats to be kept indoors. 1280 00:57:39,748 --> 00:57:42,000 City staff are proposing a cat bylaw 1281 00:57:42,292 --> 00:57:43,585 with a number of suggestions: 1282 00:57:43,877 --> 00:57:46,046 all cats must be spayed and neutered, 1283 00:57:46,338 --> 00:57:48,256 felines must be kept indoors, 1284 00:57:48,548 --> 00:57:51,718 and most extreme, anybody who feeds a stray cat 1285 00:57:52,010 --> 00:57:53,845 legally becomes its owner. 1286 00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:57,599 But that report came out in May and nothing has happened since. 1287 00:57:57,891 --> 00:57:59,935 (giggling) 1288 00:58:00,227 --> 00:58:01,603 You feel sleepy? 1289 00:58:01,895 --> 00:58:03,271 (kittens mewing) 1290 00:58:03,563 --> 00:58:05,607 We've gone through a whole kitten season 1291 00:58:05,899 --> 00:58:06,858 and there's still no money in the budget, 1292 00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:09,111 so it is frustrating. 1293 00:58:09,403 --> 00:58:12,239 There's the purring. Good girl. 1294 00:58:14,533 --> 00:58:16,368 But hopefully moving forward, 1295 00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:19,371 there will be more help for kittens like them 1296 00:58:19,663 --> 00:58:21,289 because I can't keep up. 1297 00:58:21,581 --> 00:58:23,125 (mewing) 1298 00:58:24,876 --> 00:58:27,212 (hum of passing traffic) 1299 00:58:27,504 --> 00:58:28,839 How are the cats? 1300 00:58:29,131 --> 00:58:30,549 ♪ 1301 00:58:30,841 --> 00:58:31,925 The weather's getting better, 1302 00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:35,387 they were wandering a little bit more. 1303 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,180 Then Guimauve disappeared. 1304 00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:38,849 ♪ 1305 00:58:39,141 --> 00:58:43,020 He was here, he ate his evening meal with the rest of them. 1306 00:58:43,311 --> 00:58:44,855 Spencer and Guimave, I have a picture 1307 00:58:45,147 --> 00:58:46,982 of the two of them snuggled up together 1308 00:58:47,274 --> 00:58:49,401 and then that was it, Guimauve didn't come back. 1309 00:58:49,693 --> 00:58:51,111 ♪ 1310 00:58:51,403 --> 00:58:53,530 I know he's not lost in the area 1311 00:58:53,822 --> 00:58:56,616 because he had such a strong tie to that porch. 1312 00:58:56,908 --> 00:58:59,745 And I think Guimauve, his stomach told him where to go 1313 00:59:00,037 --> 00:59:02,914 and a trap that's set will have food. 1314 00:59:03,206 --> 00:59:08,712 ♪ 1315 00:59:09,004 --> 00:59:11,131 I did some looking around. 1316 00:59:11,423 --> 00:59:13,675 There's three neighbors that have traps here. 1317 00:59:13,967 --> 00:59:16,094 ♪ 1318 00:59:16,386 --> 00:59:17,804 When I ask them, they won't answer, 1319 00:59:18,096 --> 00:59:21,266 so that's difficult, knowing that somebody probably 1320 00:59:21,558 --> 00:59:22,851 has done something. 1321 00:59:23,143 --> 00:59:24,561 ♪ 1322 00:59:24,853 --> 00:59:26,772 My neighbors were aware what I was doing. 1323 00:59:27,064 --> 00:59:28,607 ♪ 1324 00:59:28,899 --> 00:59:31,485 There's a lot of people that just aren't on board. 1325 00:59:31,777 --> 00:59:32,819 It was really tragic. 1326 00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:34,821 ♪ 1327 00:59:35,113 --> 00:59:37,741 Spencer spent about three or four days wandering around, 1328 00:59:38,033 --> 00:59:39,242 crying, looking for Guimauve, 1329 00:59:39,534 --> 00:59:40,869 they were really close. 1330 00:59:41,161 --> 00:59:43,163 ♪ 1331 00:59:43,455 --> 00:59:44,873 They have souls. 1332 00:59:45,165 --> 00:59:47,667 They can't think like humans, but they have souls. 1333 00:59:47,959 --> 00:59:49,211 So you do feel responsible, 1334 00:59:49,503 --> 00:59:51,963 that it was my duty to keep them safe. 1335 00:59:52,255 --> 00:59:54,174 But there's no boundaries for feral cats. 1336 00:59:54,466 --> 00:59:57,844 ♪ 1337 00:59:58,136 --> 01:00:00,472 (wind blowing, birds chirping) 1338 01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:14,945 ♪ 1339 01:00:15,237 --> 01:00:16,655 It's pretty worldwide now. 1340 01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:19,491 I have people from all over following, which is crazy. 1341 01:00:19,783 --> 01:00:23,078 ♪ 1342 01:00:23,370 --> 01:00:25,997 If nobody ever talked about it, we wouldn't make progress. 1343 01:00:26,289 --> 01:00:28,333 So, I'm glad that people are starting to realize 1344 01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:29,918 that we have a problem 1345 01:00:30,210 --> 01:00:31,545 and they're going to have to do something. 1346 01:00:31,837 --> 01:00:34,089 ♪ 1347 01:00:34,381 --> 01:00:37,884 (wind blowing) 1348 01:00:38,176 --> 01:00:42,097 (thunder rumbling) 1349 01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:44,474 -I'm hot. -Anybody gonna come and join us? 1350 01:00:44,766 --> 01:00:48,520 (thunder rumbling) 1351 01:00:48,812 --> 01:00:50,230 Okay, let's move-- wanna move over, 1352 01:00:50,522 --> 01:00:52,107 so we're not blocking. 1353 01:00:52,399 --> 01:00:54,901 Stand right in front of the doorway. 1354 01:00:55,193 --> 01:00:56,570 Is your sign waterproof? 1355 01:00:56,862 --> 01:00:58,155 I have no idea. 1356 01:00:58,446 --> 01:00:59,906 ♪ 1357 01:01:00,198 --> 01:01:01,658 (car horn honks, woman yells) 1358 01:01:01,950 --> 01:01:03,577 Hey, maybe... 1359 01:01:03,869 --> 01:01:05,412 We have people. 1360 01:01:05,704 --> 01:01:06,496 Over there. 1361 01:01:06,788 --> 01:01:07,747 (car horns honking) 1362 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:09,207 I don't know them. 1363 01:01:09,499 --> 01:01:10,417 -Are they with us? -Yeah. 1364 01:01:10,709 --> 01:01:11,835 -Really? - I think so. 1365 01:01:12,127 --> 01:01:13,253 Thank you! 1366 01:01:13,545 --> 01:01:14,796 (car horns honking) 1367 01:01:15,088 --> 01:01:16,339 ♪ 1368 01:01:16,631 --> 01:01:19,801 (car horns honking, people cheering) 1369 01:01:20,093 --> 01:01:21,803 Hi, I'm Mellissa. Nice to meet you. 1370 01:01:22,095 --> 01:01:23,555 -Hi, Mellissa. -Thanks for coming, guys. 1371 01:01:23,847 --> 01:01:24,848 You're so welcome. 1372 01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:26,600 -Love all your signs. -Thank you! 1373 01:01:26,892 --> 01:01:29,603 -Very nice, wow. -Yours are waterproof. 1374 01:01:29,895 --> 01:01:31,688 (laughter) 1375 01:01:31,980 --> 01:01:33,607 Thanks so much for everything you do, by the way. 1376 01:01:33,899 --> 01:01:36,026 I follow the page like a crazy person. 1377 01:01:36,318 --> 01:01:37,402 (overlapping chatter) 1378 01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:40,197 -This is good. - I know, I wanna get a picture. 1379 01:01:40,488 --> 01:01:42,949 (car horns honking, cheering) 1380 01:01:43,241 --> 01:01:45,285 Let's get started. Sorry for the delay. 1381 01:01:45,577 --> 01:01:49,080 It's nice to have a full council chamber. 1382 01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:50,749 The recommendation is that council 1383 01:01:51,041 --> 01:01:52,584 implement a cat control bylaw 1384 01:01:52,876 --> 01:01:54,544 vitally supported by funding, 1385 01:01:54,836 --> 01:01:56,213 in support of a five-year timeline 1386 01:01:56,504 --> 01:01:59,382 in which all owned cats are to be desexed. 1387 01:01:59,674 --> 01:02:02,052 Councillor Grant, you're seconding. 1388 01:02:02,344 --> 01:02:03,053 Debate. 1389 01:02:03,345 --> 01:02:04,888 So, Your Worship, 1390 01:02:05,180 --> 01:02:08,350 I'm not completely convinced we can necessarily implement 1391 01:02:08,642 --> 01:02:09,976 all these regulations. 1392 01:02:10,268 --> 01:02:14,064 How do we realistically expect to enforce 1393 01:02:14,356 --> 01:02:16,191 some of these provisions? 1394 01:02:16,483 --> 01:02:18,985 I mean, to say, "All cats have to be kept indoors." 1395 01:02:19,277 --> 01:02:22,322 Well, if there's a random cat wandering the neighborhood, 1396 01:02:22,614 --> 01:02:25,492 how do we know who officially owns that cat? 1397 01:02:25,784 --> 01:02:27,869 Are we going to give this person a ticket? 1398 01:02:28,161 --> 01:02:29,704 Through you, Madam Mayor, that's why it's vital 1399 01:02:29,996 --> 01:02:31,248 that cats be licensed. 1400 01:02:31,539 --> 01:02:33,458 So, hopefully, that cat that is roaming 1401 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:36,920 can be linked to its owner by virtue of a tag. 1402 01:02:37,212 --> 01:02:38,463 Okay, thank you. 1403 01:02:38,755 --> 01:02:40,590 Councillor Bergeron and then Councillor Grant. 1404 01:02:40,882 --> 01:02:41,675 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 1405 01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:44,135 So, when you say cats must be kept inside, 1406 01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:47,097 as long as they were controlled in their own yard, 1407 01:02:47,389 --> 01:02:49,432 would you accept that, or... 1408 01:02:49,724 --> 01:02:52,769 So, it's really about ensuring that once a cat is outside 1409 01:02:53,061 --> 01:02:54,312 that it's supervised. 1410 01:02:54,604 --> 01:02:55,689 Yes, yeah. 1411 01:02:55,981 --> 01:02:58,733 One thing I want to think about is long term 1412 01:02:59,025 --> 01:03:00,568 and if everybody's religious in this 1413 01:03:00,860 --> 01:03:02,988 we won't have a cat problem because we won't have any cats. 1414 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,489 (crowd murmuring) 1415 01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:06,908 When you think about it, so, I mean... 1416 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,119 Through you, Madam Mayor, no bylaw 1417 01:03:09,411 --> 01:03:11,079 is a hundred percent enforceable. 1418 01:03:11,371 --> 01:03:13,498 There's a speed limit out here, in front of this building, 1419 01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:15,583 it's 50 kilometers an hour. 1420 01:03:15,875 --> 01:03:17,877 Uh, I'm sure if I asked everyone in this room 1421 01:03:18,169 --> 01:03:20,255 if they have exceeded that 50 miles an hour, 1422 01:03:20,547 --> 01:03:21,965 if they were honest, they'd say yes. 1423 01:03:22,257 --> 01:03:24,384 Bylaws, they build expectation 1424 01:03:24,676 --> 01:03:27,554 and certainly, there's that carrot that says, 1425 01:03:27,846 --> 01:03:30,724 "Oh, if you don't live up to that expectation, 1426 01:03:31,016 --> 01:03:34,019 there could be punitive repercussions." 1427 01:03:34,311 --> 01:03:36,271 I live in the West End, and I don't-- 1428 01:03:36,563 --> 01:03:39,316 We don't have a roaming cat problem, that I know. 1429 01:03:39,607 --> 01:03:41,484 Yes, you do. Yes, you do. 1430 01:03:41,776 --> 01:03:43,236 Is there an area in town that's more concentrated 1431 01:03:43,528 --> 01:03:47,324 and is more concerned where this bylaw would really be effective? 1432 01:03:47,615 --> 01:03:49,159 This has been going on since, 1433 01:03:49,451 --> 01:03:52,620 I think I was in council 15 years ago 1434 01:03:52,912 --> 01:03:54,622 and we were talking about feral cats then. 1435 01:03:54,914 --> 01:03:56,583 Something has to be done, 1436 01:03:56,875 --> 01:03:59,502 and we're going to do it tonight. 1437 01:03:59,794 --> 01:04:03,298 So I'm going to call the vote. 1438 01:04:03,590 --> 01:04:04,507 All in favor? 1439 01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:05,967 (crowd murmuring) 1440 01:04:06,259 --> 01:04:07,594 Carried. 1441 01:04:07,886 --> 01:04:08,887 Thank you. 1442 01:04:09,179 --> 01:04:10,513 (applause, cheering) 1443 01:04:10,805 --> 01:04:12,223 (chatter) 1444 01:04:12,515 --> 01:04:13,433 We did it! 1445 01:04:13,725 --> 01:04:14,601 -We did it. -We did it. 1446 01:04:14,893 --> 01:04:15,769 -So far. -Yeah. 1447 01:04:16,061 --> 01:04:17,687 We still have progress to make. 1448 01:04:17,979 --> 01:04:19,606 We can't, there's no way it's going backwards now. 1449 01:04:19,898 --> 01:04:21,024 No, there's just no way. 1450 01:04:21,316 --> 01:04:22,859 They can't now. 1451 01:04:23,151 --> 01:04:25,695 If it's a five-year plan, that's still really long. 1452 01:04:25,987 --> 01:04:28,907 That's a lot of kittens that could be born in five years. 1453 01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:32,660 But five years is still better than zero years. 1454 01:04:32,952 --> 01:04:34,788 Like, at least we're moving forward. 1455 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,123 And finally, they're going to do something about it. 1456 01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,876 A lot of them don't agree on the "Feed it, you own it" bylaw, 1457 01:04:40,168 --> 01:04:42,962 which I don't either, but that's one of the problems. 1458 01:04:43,254 --> 01:04:45,590 We'll figure it out over the years and we'll iron it out. 1459 01:04:45,882 --> 01:04:47,342 ♪ 1460 01:04:47,634 --> 01:04:49,719 The lifespan of cats is much shorter 1461 01:04:50,011 --> 01:04:52,013 if you have them as outdoor cats, 1462 01:04:52,305 --> 01:04:54,474 and yet some cat owners still believe, 1463 01:04:54,766 --> 01:04:57,477 "My cat will be unhappy if it's indoors, 1464 01:04:57,769 --> 01:04:59,813 so I'd rather let it outside where it's dangerous." 1465 01:05:00,105 --> 01:05:03,942 ♪ 1466 01:05:04,234 --> 01:05:05,777 I mean, humans are smart, 1467 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:09,114 but at the same time, they're very simpleminded 1468 01:05:09,406 --> 01:05:11,658 because it's an easy fix 1469 01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:15,161 to encourage people to keep their cats indoors. 1470 01:05:15,453 --> 01:05:17,580 It's harder to put the forest back. 1471 01:05:17,872 --> 01:05:25,255 ♪ 1472 01:05:25,547 --> 01:05:28,091 Mellissa Alepins and Mary Jane Proulx. 1473 01:05:28,383 --> 01:05:29,467 Extraordinary people, 1474 01:05:29,759 --> 01:05:32,470 extraordinarily compassionate, caring, 1475 01:05:32,762 --> 01:05:36,182 and, you know, not expecting any sort of acknowledgement for it. 1476 01:05:36,474 --> 01:05:40,520 Just doing it out of sheer compassion and caring. 1477 01:05:40,812 --> 01:05:43,565 After all, we domesticated these animals, right? 1478 01:05:43,857 --> 01:05:45,400 They can no longer look after themselves. 1479 01:05:45,692 --> 01:05:47,819 ♪ 1480 01:05:48,111 --> 01:05:49,779 I guess at this point, we're just waiting to see 1481 01:05:50,071 --> 01:05:52,657 when they're gonna actually make the money official 1482 01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:55,368 and then pass the bylaws. 1483 01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:57,454 I'll probably do this forever. 1484 01:05:57,745 --> 01:06:00,999 I love it, so in that sense, it's good that there's no end, 1485 01:06:01,291 --> 01:06:03,418 but it's really sad because these are generally orphans 1486 01:06:03,710 --> 01:06:06,129 that I take, so they don't have a mom. 1487 01:06:06,421 --> 01:06:08,756 And it took us, Mellissa and I, to fight this hard. 1488 01:06:09,048 --> 01:06:11,259 We had to have protests and we had to fight, 1489 01:06:11,551 --> 01:06:13,553 and I had to run for council. 1490 01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:16,097 Like run for council, me run for council? Come on. 1491 01:06:16,389 --> 01:06:19,058 ♪ 1492 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:21,394 It pays to fight. It really does. 1493 01:06:21,686 --> 01:06:23,563 If you have a passion and if you believe 1494 01:06:23,855 --> 01:06:26,107 you're doing the right thing, do it. 1495 01:06:26,399 --> 01:06:28,776 ♪ 1496 01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,196 A cat can have thousands of babies 1497 01:06:31,488 --> 01:06:32,655 and then their babies have babies 1498 01:06:32,947 --> 01:06:34,616 and then their babies have babies. 1499 01:06:34,908 --> 01:06:35,950 It just never ends. 1500 01:06:36,242 --> 01:06:38,036 ♪ 1501 01:06:38,328 --> 01:06:39,454 Never ends. 1502 01:06:39,746 --> 01:06:49,589 ♪ 1503 01:07:19,118 --> 01:07:20,787 (cat meowing) 1504 01:07:24,624 --> 01:07:34,551 ♪ 1505 01:08:36,112 --> 01:08:38,990 ♪ 1506 01:08:41,659 --> 01:08:42,535 ♪ 98440

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