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In the criminal justice system,
the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police who investigate crime,
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and the Crown Prosecutors
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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She shouldn't be texting you
in the first place.
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You shouldn't be checking my phone.
How do I know what you're up to?
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I'm not up to anything.
Then you shouldn't be texting her.
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Jen, this is ridiculous.
I want you to delete her number.
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What?
You heard.
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Don't walk away from me. Rob!
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Jen, stay where you are.
Don't tell me what to do.
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Oh, my God.
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Grazes on the back of his hands,
a nasty cut on his lip.
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Also he's received
a blow to the head
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which could be the cause of death.
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Have you got a time, Joy? Yeah, I'd
say sometime within the last hour.
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Really?
Yeah.
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Richard Peters.
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Right.
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Thanks, love.
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Richard Peters.
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Saw nothing at all?
We didn't see anyone.
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It's pretty quiet around here,
anyway. All right.
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Well, one of our officers is going
to take a statement from you both.
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You can wait in your flat
if it's any easier.
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Thanks.
All right.
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Guv?
Yeah?
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We've found an empty pram.
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And Richard Peters lives here?
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Yes, guv.
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It's still warm.
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Well, let's hope the baby is.
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Why aren't you out looking for Leo?
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Like I've already said, Mr Wilks,
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we have officers searching
for your son,
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but they'll have a much better chance
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if you give us as much information
as possible. OK?
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Rick was the nicest guy
you could meet.
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Why would anyone...?
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Oh, God.
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Leo, what if they've hurt him?
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Listen, what time did Mr Peters
leave this morning?
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Just after eight.
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It was their little routine:
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go out, have breakfast at the cafe,
get the papers and then come back.
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Rick works from home most days,
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so he used to say that was his
walk to the office.
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And how long has Leo been with you?
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We fostered him
when he was four months old,
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and then applied to adopt.
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What about Leo's biological mother?
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She was a drug addict.
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Most people wouldn't want to adopt
a baby with problems,
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but we loved him
from the first time we saw him.
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Do you have a recent photograph?
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You have to find my son.
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He needs medication twice a day.
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If he doesn't get it...
What sort of medication, Mr Wilks?
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For seizures. He has epilepsy.
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Guv, have a look at this.
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Now, this van leaves the flats
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round about the time
that Richard Peters was murdered.
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Have we got footage
from inside the gates?
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No, there's only CCTV
on the main entrance.
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We checked the van.
It belongs to a Dean Carter,
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who's got previous
for assault and theft.
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Ta. But murder and kidnap,
it's a whole different league.
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In this assault Dean Carter was
jointly charged with Karl Simpson.
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CID picked him up
a couple of months ago
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for possession
of indecent child images.
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OK. Maybe he and Dean Carter
had a shared interest.
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I want all patrol teams out
looking for that van,
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but no high-speed chases
in case he has got Leo.
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Uniform have spotted the van
at Borough Market
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and it looks like it's stopping.
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Have you let Sam know?
No need to.
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He's north of the river with his team
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in case the guy makes a break for it
across the bridge.
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Get in with me.
Oh, right. You going to drive?
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Yes, I'm going to drive.
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All units in position?
'In position.'
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Ready?
Yeah.
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All units go, go, go.
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Move away from the vehicle!
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What have I done?
What's this all about?
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What do you mean, calm down?
Calm down about what?
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Can you open your van please, sir.
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Why?
Just open the van, please.
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You got a warrant? No, I've got a
missing kid, I don't need a warrant.
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You tell me, pal, that look like
a missing kid to you?
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Great.
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I don't know nothing
about a missing kid.
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How come your van was seen
coming out of some flats
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moments after a man was murdered
and a child was abducted.
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Well, good news, Dean.
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Your friend Mr Turner
has indeed confirmed
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that you were there to visit him
at the flats.
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There we go, told you that already.
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He's also told us you were off
loading some stolen goods.
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Hardly something to be smug about,
is it?
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Anyway,
we'll deal with that later on.
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I need you to try and remember if you
saw anyone suspicious at the flats.
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So why should I help you lot?
Well, no reason at all.
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But you should try and help the man
who's going out of his mind
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because his seriously ill son
is missing. What do you think?
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I tell you what.
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You do me a deal with what you got
me on I'll tell you what I know.
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Not a good day to barter with me,
Dean.
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Right, what can I tell you?
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There was a bloke and a bird
standing outside on the street.
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They were there when I drove in and
they were there when I drove out.
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You sure it was the same couple?
Trust, me pal.
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You notice people in my line
of work, you know what I mean?
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I know what you mean, pal.
A description, please?
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All right. She was white,
he was black.
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Both in their late 20s. Did you see
them enter the flats? No.
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Is that it. Can I go now?
Of course you can.
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As soon as I've charged you.
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The amount of time we've wasted
on Dean Carter.
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Guv, come and have a look at this.
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What?
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Bin lorry, followed by...
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white female, black male.
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If they live in the flats why don't
they use the pedestrian gate.
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Because you need a pass key.
Precisely.
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And if they're visiting
why aren't they buzzing for entry?
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Do we see them leave? No, there's
no CCTV cameras over the exit gate.
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Maybe they did,
but we haven't seen them.
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All right, see if Gareth Wilks
recognises them. Good work.
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That's Ruth Pendle.
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I've never seen him before, but
that's definitely Ruth, Leo's mum.
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You're absolutely certain?
Yes.
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Does this mean you know where he is?
Not yet, no.
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Had Ruth been in touch with either
you or Richard recently?
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No.
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The last time we saw her Leo was
still in our foster care.
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As soon as we adopted him,
we cut contact.
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Any idea where we might find Ruth?
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You could try her mum.
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I haven't heard from Ruth since
she left rehab three months ago.
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How long was she in there for? On and
off since Leo was taken into care.
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I paid for her to go into the best
place, get the best help,
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but she couldn't stay clean.
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It couldn't have been easy for you.
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Ruth idolised her dad.
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He was something of a genius.
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They spent hours pouring
over books together.
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But then he had an affair with
someone not much older than her.
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She started failing her exams
which was unheard of.
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I found out that someone
at college gave her cocaine
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to help her stay awake.
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Guess it was funny, seeing the
clever girl go off the rails.
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And before she knew it,
she was hooked, yeah?
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Suddenly she thought
she had friends.
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I should have spotted it,
but I didn't,
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not until she told me
she was pregnant.
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Do you know if she was on drugs
while she was pregnant?
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She'd progressed to heroin by then.
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When my grandson was born
he had to be weaned off it.
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Did she tell you the name
of the father? She refused to.
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So you've no idea where she is now?
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Try her room-mate
from the rehabilitation centre.
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They were inseparable.
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Come on, love, open up.
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I know you're in there.
I can see you moving about.
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Lisa Longwood?
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Might be.
I'll take that as a yes.
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What the hell
do you think you're doing?
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Ruth Pendle?
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Who?
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Ruth Pendle.
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You shared a room with her in rehab,
right?
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I don't know what you're on about.
I've got a missing boy, love.
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I haven't got time for games.
Where's Ruth Pendle?
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I'm Ruth.
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What do you mean,
a little boy's missing. Is it Leo?*
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You should be looking for my son.
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We were hoping you could tell us
where he is.
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Why would I know?
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Social Services
took him away from me. Really?
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Why were you at the flats
this morning
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where Richard Peters was killed?
Pardon?
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That is you, isn't it?
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No.
No?
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No? So it's a coincidence, is it,
that someone looking like you,
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well, exactly like you, is outside
Mr Peters flat this morning.
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Mr Peters being the man who adopted
your son.
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Come on, Ruth, you're not stupid.
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I mean you must have known
we'd make the connection.
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Is that the boy's father?
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It isn't me.
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Right, you know what,
we don't have time for this, Ruth.
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Listen to me, young lady.
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Leo is in danger.
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He needs medication twice a day,
you understand?
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He suffers from seizures,
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maybe because his mother fed him
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a diet of heroin
when she was pregnant.
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He needs tablets
to stop them from happening.
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You're lying.
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Why would we do that?
To get me to tell you where he is.
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So you do know?
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Right, we found this in your bag
when you came to the station.
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Business card for a solicitor.
Why were you seeing him?
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None of your business.
We'll ask him.
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He's not allowed
to disclose anything.
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I know that, but those rules tend to
get forgotten, don't they,
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when there's a child's life at stake?
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I assume I don't need to remind you
about legal privilege?
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I assume I don't need to remind you
that withholding information
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that results in the death of a child
would not be good for your firm.
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Don't you agree?
I don't appreciate being pressured.
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I'm sure you don't.
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So, now we've got the formalities
out of the way,
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what were you seeing
Ruth Pendle about?
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She was seeking advice
on how to overturn the adoption.
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Really, well I thought
that was impossible?
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It is for Ruth,
but not for the father.
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He's not on the birth certificate.
He was never consulted
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when the baby was given up for
adoption, so he can contest it.
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I did tell Ruth that it's still
highly unlikely she'll succeed.
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Do you know the father's name?
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Yes.
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Mr Walker, I understand you'd like
to protect client confidentiality,
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but we think Leo's been taken
by his dad, so a name, please.
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This puts me
in a very awkward position.
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Well, I appreciate that,
but you're our only hope
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of finding Leo, and quickly,
so a name please.
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Neil Jenkins.
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And, no, I don't have a contact
address. Thank you for your time.
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I haven't seen him
since I became pregnant.
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So, this isn't Neil Jenkins
in the picture with you, no?
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No?
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There are 126 Neil Jenkins
listed in London.
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Do you know how long it's going
to take to go through them?
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Every minute we waste
puts your child's life at risk.
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If I tell you where Leo is,
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Social Services will make
sure I never see him again.
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I know you all think I'm a waste of
space drug addict, but I'm clean.
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And you know why I did that?
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For Leo.
244
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Because he's the only thing
in my life worth living for.
245
00:13:03,067 --> 00:13:05,187
What are these?
246
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These are web forums of parents
who have children with epilepsy.
247
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This little boy, for instance,
had a major seizure.
248
00:13:13,187 --> 00:13:16,267
And now can't even hold
his own head up.
249
00:13:16,307 --> 00:13:19,987
Leo seemed fine. I'd have been able
to tell if something was wrong.
250
00:13:20,027 --> 00:13:24,067
Well, the reason he seemed fine
though, Ruth, when you saw him
251
00:13:24,107 --> 00:13:27,787
is because his adoptive parents are
giving him his regular medication.
252
00:13:27,827 --> 00:13:30,667
But he isn't with them right now,
is he?
253
00:13:30,707 --> 00:13:32,667
It won't hurt if he misses
a few doses, is it?
254
00:13:32,707 --> 00:13:34,507
That's what this mother thought.
255
00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:36,827
She took her 18-month-old daughter
off medication
256
00:13:36,867 --> 00:13:38,587
without talking to a doctor first.
257
00:13:38,627 --> 00:13:41,387
Two days later she had a fit
and now they're worried
258
00:13:41,427 --> 00:13:43,347
that she can't see out of one eye.
259
00:13:43,387 --> 00:13:44,987
Look.
260
00:13:47,707 --> 00:13:50,227
Leo's going to be two next month.
261
00:13:52,987 --> 00:13:55,947
I missed his first birthday,
and I swore I wouldn't miss anymore.
262
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Not again.
263
00:13:57,587 --> 00:13:59,427
I just want to be with him.
264
00:13:59,467 --> 00:14:01,667
I understand that totally.
265
00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:05,227
You do want to help your son,
don't you?
266
00:14:07,867 --> 00:14:09,427
Of course I do.
267
00:14:09,467 --> 00:14:11,547
Well, then, tell us where he is.
268
00:14:14,827 --> 00:14:16,947
You promise to look after him.
269
00:14:16,987 --> 00:14:19,027
I promise.
270
00:14:20,387 --> 00:14:22,427
And tell him
that his mummy loves him.
271
00:14:25,187 --> 00:14:28,547
He's with his dad. 36 Garston Court.
272
00:14:28,587 --> 00:14:30,907
Thank you very much.
273
00:14:30,947 --> 00:14:32,867
You've done the right thing.
274
00:14:38,387 --> 00:14:40,147
Mr Jenkins.
275
00:14:40,187 --> 00:14:42,307
Open the door, please.
276
00:14:43,347 --> 00:14:45,627
Mr Jenkins.
277
00:14:46,787 --> 00:14:48,547
No. Go on, lads.
278
00:14:51,867 --> 00:14:53,707
Police!
279
00:14:57,427 --> 00:15:00,267
Anything?
Guv?
280
00:15:00,307 --> 00:15:02,947
A man with a little boy's
been spotted on the roof.
281
00:15:02,987 --> 00:15:05,027
Well, get after him, then.
Quick as you can.
282
00:15:05,067 --> 00:15:07,147
Come on, lads, quick as you can.
283
00:15:13,947 --> 00:15:18,387
Take it easy. That's it.
All right. Thank you.
284
00:15:20,947 --> 00:15:23,147
Hiya, Neil.
285
00:15:23,187 --> 00:15:25,547
It's chilly up here, isn't it?
286
00:15:25,587 --> 00:15:27,907
How are you doing?
287
00:15:29,747 --> 00:15:31,987
You're not taking my son away
from me, OK?
288
00:15:32,027 --> 00:15:34,147
No.
So you can all just leave us alone.
289
00:15:36,387 --> 00:15:39,267
He's not a well lad.
You know that, Neil, don't you?
290
00:15:39,307 --> 00:15:42,267
What do you mean?
He has epilepsy.
291
00:15:42,307 --> 00:15:44,987
He needs regular medication.
292
00:15:46,107 --> 00:15:49,747
No, no. Ruth would have told me
about something like that.
293
00:15:49,787 --> 00:15:52,587
Well, she didn't know either.
294
00:15:53,707 --> 00:15:55,827
She didn't know.
295
00:15:57,507 --> 00:15:59,227
He's fine.
296
00:15:59,267 --> 00:16:02,627
We've been we've been singing songs
earlier.
297
00:16:02,667 --> 00:16:04,387
Hey, little man, weren't we?
298
00:16:04,427 --> 00:16:06,507
Eh? Were we singing songs, were we?
299
00:16:07,547 --> 00:16:09,187
Good boy.
300
00:16:09,227 --> 00:16:13,427
Neil, if you care about baby Leo,
and I know you do,
301
00:16:13,467 --> 00:16:15,267
you'll let us do what we have to.
302
00:16:15,307 --> 00:16:18,187
I'm his dad,
and he doesn't even know who I am.
303
00:16:18,227 --> 00:16:21,667
Let me take care of him,
just for a minute, eh? No. No.
304
00:16:23,067 --> 00:16:25,187
No.
305
00:16:25,227 --> 00:16:27,627
Come on.
306
00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:29,427
You want him to be happy, don't you?
307
00:16:32,187 --> 00:16:34,787
Then, why don't you do
what's right for him.
308
00:16:35,947 --> 00:16:38,067
Eh? And not you.
309
00:16:40,787 --> 00:16:42,547
Cos you know what?
310
00:16:43,587 --> 00:16:46,587
That's what good dad's
are all about... Neil.
311
00:16:49,467 --> 00:16:51,667
They put themselves second.
312
00:16:57,907 --> 00:16:59,707
Who's this?
313
00:17:00,747 --> 00:17:02,587
Boys.
314
00:17:02,627 --> 00:17:05,227
Thank you. Thank you so much.
315
00:17:05,267 --> 00:17:07,867
Gareth, the paramedics are going
to take you to hospital,
316
00:17:07,907 --> 00:17:09,587
just to check Leo over, OK?
317
00:17:14,827 --> 00:17:16,747
Is that who killed Rick?
318
00:17:16,787 --> 00:17:21,507
You leave him to us, Mr Wilks.
You just take care of Leo. OK?
319
00:17:27,548 --> 00:17:30,068
Ruth reckoned that
if we just talk to them
320
00:17:30,108 --> 00:17:34,628
they'd see how serious we were
about getting Leo back.
321
00:17:34,668 --> 00:17:36,828
Well, why didn't you go through
the courts?
322
00:17:36,868 --> 00:17:38,608
Because that would have
taken forever.
323
00:17:38,697 --> 00:17:41,097
Nothing to do with the previous
you got then, Neil?
324
00:17:41,137 --> 00:17:42,897
What?
325
00:17:43,937 --> 00:17:45,457
Well, Neil...
326
00:17:46,817 --> 00:17:51,097
four years ago you assaulted a man
after a night out. Is that right?
327
00:17:52,177 --> 00:17:55,137
I was drunk, right,
and he was winding me up.
328
00:17:57,097 --> 00:17:58,817
Is that what Mr Peters was doing?
329
00:18:01,697 --> 00:18:03,937
All I wanted to do was see Leo.
330
00:18:03,977 --> 00:18:06,137
So it didn't wind you up, did it,
331
00:18:06,177 --> 00:18:11,097
the fact that Leo, your son,
had been adopted by two daddies?
332
00:18:11,137 --> 00:18:13,617
It pissed me off
that other people had my boy.
333
00:18:13,657 --> 00:18:15,537
That was Ruth's fault.
She gave him away.
334
00:18:15,577 --> 00:18:18,097
She didn't give him away.
Social Services took him away.
335
00:18:18,137 --> 00:18:21,137
Because she was on drugs.
Ruth?
336
00:18:21,177 --> 00:18:22,577
No.
337
00:18:22,617 --> 00:18:25,377
Didn't you wonder why her family
wanted nothing to do with her?
338
00:18:25,417 --> 00:18:27,377
They had a falling out.
And she turned to you.
339
00:18:27,417 --> 00:18:29,937
Bet you couldn't believe your luck.
340
00:18:29,977 --> 00:18:31,897
I loved her! All right?
341
00:18:32,657 --> 00:18:34,697
You see?
342
00:18:34,737 --> 00:18:36,857
You've got quite a temper.
343
00:18:36,897 --> 00:18:38,937
Is that what happened
when you saw Leo?
344
00:18:38,977 --> 00:18:41,457
You got angry and you lashed out.
345
00:18:41,497 --> 00:18:43,297
No. No.
346
00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:47,617
All I did was pick Leo up,
that's it.
347
00:18:50,057 --> 00:18:52,777
And then this Mr Peters,
he went mental.
348
00:18:53,897 --> 00:18:56,697
Started screaming in my face.
So you hit him to shut him up?
349
00:18:56,737 --> 00:19:00,817
I walked away so Leo wouldn't see
what was happening.
350
00:19:02,777 --> 00:19:06,377
He followed me
and he grabbed my arm.
351
00:19:06,417 --> 00:19:08,377
So I pushed him...
352
00:19:09,657 --> 00:19:11,377
and he fell over.
353
00:19:12,617 --> 00:19:18,777
Well, the pathology report says
354
00:19:18,817 --> 00:19:23,577
that Mr Richard Peters died from
a blow to the head, probably a kick.
355
00:19:23,617 --> 00:19:29,057
I mean, I might have caught his lip
when I pushed him, but that was it.
356
00:19:29,097 --> 00:19:31,577
All right. So what happened
after you pushed him?
357
00:19:34,217 --> 00:19:36,057
You need to tell us the truth.
358
00:19:36,097 --> 00:19:38,097
Where is he?
359
00:19:38,137 --> 00:19:39,857
He's in another room.
360
00:19:39,897 --> 00:19:42,217
Will he get bail?
Why do you ask?
361
00:19:42,257 --> 00:19:45,497
If he knows I've spoken to you,
he'll come after me.
362
00:19:45,537 --> 00:19:48,497
Has Mr Jenkins come after you
before?
363
00:19:48,537 --> 00:19:50,377
He's got a temper.
364
00:19:50,417 --> 00:19:52,257
That's why we split up.
365
00:19:52,297 --> 00:19:54,777
I thought I could handle it,
but I couldn't.
366
00:19:56,017 --> 00:19:59,457
Well, why would you leave your son
with someone like that?
367
00:19:59,497 --> 00:20:02,297
Because I didn't have much choice.
368
00:20:03,777 --> 00:20:06,217
OK. So what went wrong?
369
00:20:08,017 --> 00:20:10,097
It was Neil.
370
00:20:10,137 --> 00:20:12,337
He just picked Leo up
without asking.
371
00:20:12,377 --> 00:20:15,217
I told him to put him down,
but he wouldn't.
372
00:20:15,257 --> 00:20:18,217
And then Mr Peters tried
to grab him back,
373
00:20:18,257 --> 00:20:21,177
but Neil started hitting him
and then he pushed him over.
374
00:20:23,137 --> 00:20:24,697
Go on.
375
00:20:27,377 --> 00:20:29,977
That's when he kicked him
in the head.
376
00:20:32,257 --> 00:20:34,057
Right, so you are saying
377
00:20:34,097 --> 00:20:37,457
that Neil Jenkins kicked
Richard Peters in the head.
378
00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:40,657
He said that'd teach him a lesson.
379
00:20:43,777 --> 00:20:47,697
I only wanted my baby.
That's all. I'm so sorry.
380
00:20:49,217 --> 00:20:52,697
Right, that's that interview
terminated at 18:35. Thank you.
381
00:20:52,737 --> 00:20:54,977
Where are we with forensics?
382
00:20:55,017 --> 00:20:57,537
We're awaiting results
on both pairs of shoes.
383
00:20:57,577 --> 00:21:00,777
Not your everyday murderer is she?
384
00:21:00,817 --> 00:21:04,297
Why do you say that?
Because she's well spoken?
385
00:21:04,337 --> 00:21:07,177
Because she's not got previous,
unlike him.
386
00:21:07,217 --> 00:21:09,657
We've got enough to charge
Neil Jenkins with murder.
387
00:21:09,697 --> 00:21:11,337
Both with kidnapping.
388
00:21:11,377 --> 00:21:13,297
Oh, surely we've got enough
389
00:21:13,337 --> 00:21:15,617
to charge Ruth with murder
on joint enterprise?
390
00:21:15,657 --> 00:21:18,257
There's not much point.
Neil's admitted he pushed him.
391
00:21:18,297 --> 00:21:20,577
But he's denying delivering
the blow to the head.
392
00:21:20,617 --> 00:21:22,457
He's claiming self-defence.
393
00:21:22,497 --> 00:21:25,697
So unless forensics prove otherwise
it's Neil's word against Ruth's.
394
00:21:25,737 --> 00:21:27,697
And hers is the one
a jury will believe.
395
00:21:30,697 --> 00:21:32,577
Well, this is right
as far as I can see.
396
00:21:32,617 --> 00:21:36,817
It was Ruth Pendle's idea to go and
see Mr Peters. Jenkins who hit him.
397
00:21:36,910 --> 00:21:39,190
She could have called for help,
but didn't.
398
00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:43,870
You wanted to see me?
Ruth Pendle and Neil Jenkins.
399
00:21:43,910 --> 00:21:45,990
They're being jointly charged
with murder.
400
00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:48,630
I told the DI we didn't have a case
against the mum.
401
00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:50,190
Why?
402
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:53,550
Well, because Jenkins admitted
that he pushed Mr Peters.
403
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:56,230
He is claiming self-defence,
but we can prove otherwise,
404
00:21:56,270 --> 00:21:57,950
given what Ruth's told us.
405
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:59,590
But we can't.
406
00:21:59,630 --> 00:22:02,830
Ruth's word isn't admissible until
it comes out in evidence in court.
407
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:05,550
What we do know is that she led
Jenkins there,
408
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:07,630
and then fled the scene,
leaving a man dead.
409
00:22:07,670 --> 00:22:09,790
Unless we have evidence to prove
410
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:12,270
that one of them killed
Richard Peters we go after both.
411
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:14,350
Do you have a problem with that?
412
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:16,630
No, course not.
413
00:22:21,670 --> 00:22:25,230
Ruth Pendle, you're charged with
the murder of Richard Peters. What?
414
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:27,110
No! No! No!
415
00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:30,270
No! It was Neil. I told you. Please!
416
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:32,990
Please! You don't know what's
happening. I need to see my son.
417
00:22:33,030 --> 00:22:35,390
No, please!
418
00:22:47,310 --> 00:22:49,070
Do you think she killed him?
419
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:53,350
Sam, she's a young mum desperate
to be with her kid.
420
00:22:53,390 --> 00:22:55,150
Could be capable of anything.*
421
00:23:13,487 --> 00:23:15,647
I want taken off the Pendle case.
422
00:23:18,227 --> 00:23:19,747
Why?
423
00:23:19,881 --> 00:23:22,481
Because joint enterprise
is a cop out.
424
00:23:22,521 --> 00:23:24,561
We should be trying
to prove who did it,
425
00:23:24,601 --> 00:23:26,401
not just taking a chance
on them both.
426
00:23:26,441 --> 00:23:28,761
All we can prove is that they
were acting together.
427
00:23:28,801 --> 00:23:30,201
This is ridiculous.
428
00:23:30,241 --> 00:23:32,001
Do you know her?
429
00:23:33,841 --> 00:23:35,241
What?
430
00:23:35,281 --> 00:23:37,281
Ruth Pendle. Do you know her?
431
00:23:37,981 --> 00:23:39,541
No, course I don't.
432
00:23:39,629 --> 00:23:41,669
So why are you so hell bent
on protecting her?
433
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:46,829
Do you know what, forget it!
Kate!
434
00:23:46,869 --> 00:23:50,389
I've no idea what your issue is,
435
00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:54,429
but you will go in that court room
and you will get the result we want.
436
00:23:54,469 --> 00:23:56,789
Is that understood?
437
00:23:58,389 --> 00:24:00,309
Kate!
438
00:24:02,669 --> 00:24:04,629
Fine!
439
00:24:07,469 --> 00:24:09,429
Self defence?
440
00:24:09,469 --> 00:24:13,029
Forensics shows Richard Peters was
killed by a blow to the head. Maybe.
441
00:24:13,069 --> 00:24:16,909
But you haven't found a murder weapon
and my client's shoes were clean.
442
00:24:16,949 --> 00:24:19,629
And Mr Jenkins insists
it wasn't him either.
443
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:22,269
Is he saying Ruth did it, then?
That's not likely.
444
00:24:23,309 --> 00:24:25,789
Sorry, Kate, whose side are you on?
445
00:24:25,829 --> 00:24:27,549
Mine.
446
00:24:27,589 --> 00:24:29,789
So, Lydia, what's your line?
447
00:24:29,829 --> 00:24:33,389
That Neil Jenkins acted alone whilst
Ruth tried to look after her son.
448
00:24:33,429 --> 00:24:36,469
She couldn't have known he was
planning to use violence.
449
00:24:36,509 --> 00:24:39,229
So telling Mr Jenkins
that he had a son,
450
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:43,349
and then persuading him to go and
see Leo had nothing to do with her?
451
00:24:43,389 --> 00:24:45,989
Let's save the arguing
for the courtroom, shall we.
452
00:24:46,029 --> 00:24:48,469
We're sticking
to the charge of murder.
453
00:24:48,509 --> 00:24:50,709
For both defendants.
454
00:24:52,869 --> 00:24:54,949
He's driving me mad.
455
00:24:54,989 --> 00:24:57,429
I got the impression
he's not your favourite person.
456
00:24:57,469 --> 00:24:59,189
We don't agree on the case.
457
00:24:59,229 --> 00:25:01,309
Why not?
458
00:25:01,349 --> 00:25:03,389
I shouldn't really talk about it.
459
00:25:03,429 --> 00:25:06,709
Hey. I know we're on opposite sides,
but we're still friends.
460
00:25:06,749 --> 00:25:08,829
So, come on, what's up?
461
00:25:11,989 --> 00:25:14,909
I just don't think we should be
going after Ruth.
462
00:25:14,949 --> 00:25:16,629
Can't argue with you there.
463
00:25:16,669 --> 00:25:20,509
But Jake is adamant he can convince
a jury she's guilty of murder.
464
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:22,549
Really? How?
465
00:25:24,029 --> 00:25:26,989
I'm not daft, Kate. I know he's
going to try some dirty trick.
466
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:30,829
What's he going to do? Get her on the
stand and wind her up into a fury?
467
00:25:32,909 --> 00:25:34,669
He is, isn't he?
468
00:25:34,709 --> 00:25:38,189
He reckons that if the jury see she
has a temper,
469
00:25:38,229 --> 00:25:42,229
they'll also see she could have got
angry enough to kill Richard Peters.
470
00:25:43,469 --> 00:25:45,669
He's good, Lyds.
471
00:25:45,709 --> 00:25:47,709
So am I.
472
00:25:51,349 --> 00:25:53,429
What happened
when Mr Peters saw you?
473
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:58,789
He was surprised, to see Ruth.
474
00:25:58,829 --> 00:26:00,869
He said erm...
475
00:26:02,229 --> 00:26:05,949
he said Leo was their son
and that was that.
476
00:26:05,989 --> 00:26:08,469
And what was Miss Pendle's response
to that?
477
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:12,469
She was angry.
478
00:26:12,509 --> 00:26:14,589
He wouldn't even listen to us.
479
00:26:14,629 --> 00:26:17,109
So they started arguing.
480
00:26:17,149 --> 00:26:19,949
I could see that Leo
was getting upset...
481
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:25,509
so I went to pick him up
out of his pushchair.
482
00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:29,749
And Mr Peters told me
to put him back.
483
00:26:29,789 --> 00:26:31,389
But I...
484
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:37,589
I just... wanted to comfort my son.
485
00:26:37,629 --> 00:26:40,109
And then what?
486
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:42,429
He just went mad - Mr Peters.
487
00:26:42,469 --> 00:26:46,989
He started trying to grab at Leo,
488
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:50,189
so I turned away to protect him.
489
00:26:52,469 --> 00:26:54,469
Then what happened?
490
00:26:55,149 --> 00:26:57,349
And then he came at me again.
491
00:26:59,309 --> 00:27:02,429
So I pushed him away. And erm...
492
00:27:02,469 --> 00:27:04,549
he fell over.
493
00:27:06,629 --> 00:27:09,629
What was Miss Pendle doing
during all of this?
494
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:11,589
She didn't do anything.
495
00:27:12,749 --> 00:27:15,709
I mean, she didn't kick him.
496
00:27:15,749 --> 00:27:17,989
Neither of us did.
497
00:27:18,029 --> 00:27:20,069
He must have banged his head
when he fell over.
498
00:27:20,109 --> 00:27:22,869
But I don't know why Ruth
is saying that I kicked him
499
00:27:22,909 --> 00:27:24,709
because she knows that I didn't.
500
00:27:24,749 --> 00:27:26,789
I honestly... I didn't kick him.
501
00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:33,349
Thank you.
502
00:27:38,029 --> 00:27:39,949
Mr Jenkins.
503
00:27:42,069 --> 00:27:46,989
How long were you and Miss Pendle
dating before you broke up?
504
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:50,029
About six months.
505
00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:52,389
And how would you describe
your relationship?
506
00:27:52,429 --> 00:27:54,549
I loved Ruth.
507
00:27:54,589 --> 00:27:58,669
But Miss Pendle ended it
and never told you she was pregnant?
508
00:27:59,669 --> 00:28:01,509
Yeah.
509
00:28:01,549 --> 00:28:05,469
I didn't know about Leo until
a couple of weeks before I saw him.
510
00:28:05,509 --> 00:28:08,909
Why do YOU think
she never told you about him?
511
00:28:08,949 --> 00:28:10,469
Milady...
512
00:28:10,509 --> 00:28:13,989
my client cannot possibly
read the mind of Miss Pendle.
513
00:28:14,029 --> 00:28:16,469
Rephrase please, Miss Smythson.
514
00:28:19,149 --> 00:28:24,109
Would it be fair to say that you
and Miss Pendle used to argue?
515
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:25,629
Sometimes.
516
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:27,429
You argued daily, didn't you?
517
00:28:27,469 --> 00:28:29,029
I can't remember.
518
00:28:29,069 --> 00:28:32,389
Arguments of such a scale
that she was terrified of you.
519
00:28:32,429 --> 00:28:35,069
I never hit her! I'm not suggesting
you did, Mr Jenkins.
520
00:28:35,109 --> 00:28:37,869
There's no need to get angry.
521
00:28:40,589 --> 00:28:43,789
On the night Miss Pendle left,
did you have an argument?
522
00:28:45,109 --> 00:28:46,389
Erm...
523
00:28:47,389 --> 00:28:49,229
we might have.
524
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:51,629
You might have.
525
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:53,949
Could it be why she didn't tell you
about the baby?
526
00:28:53,989 --> 00:28:56,789
Because she didn't want you to know.
She knew you had a temper
527
00:28:56,829 --> 00:28:59,869
and she didn't want her unborn child
to ever have to see that.
528
00:28:59,909 --> 00:29:02,189
No, that's not -
No further questions.
529
00:29:06,909 --> 00:29:09,869
Keep going like this
and they'll stitch each other up.
530
00:29:11,749 --> 00:29:14,629
Would you say you're
of average build, Mr Jenkins?
531
00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:17,069
What?
What height are you? Six foot?
532
00:29:17,109 --> 00:29:20,509
Erm I'm five... five, eleven.
533
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:23,869
You say you were worried about Mr
Peters hurting you and your son,
534
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:27,509
hence you pushed him
in self defence.
535
00:29:27,549 --> 00:29:30,029
Is that correct?
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
536
00:29:30,069 --> 00:29:33,349
Mr Peters was five-foot, six,
537
00:29:33,389 --> 00:29:37,709
and of slight build.
Are we really to believe you thought he could hurt you?
538
00:29:37,749 --> 00:29:40,989
He was going mad.
He was shouting at me.
539
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:43,429
But surely you could have dealt
with that?
540
00:29:43,469 --> 00:29:45,469
In fact...
541
00:29:47,789 --> 00:29:50,029
that's exactly
what you did four years ago
542
00:29:50,069 --> 00:29:52,069
when a man shouted at you
in the street.
543
00:29:52,109 --> 00:29:54,149
You attacked him, didn't you?
544
00:29:55,709 --> 00:29:57,869
I've already been through this
with Mr Linten.
545
00:29:57,909 --> 00:30:01,429
But what Mr Linten conveniently
forgot to tell the court
546
00:30:01,469 --> 00:30:03,549
is that the man you attacked
was gay?
547
00:30:03,589 --> 00:30:05,509
That's not why I pushed him.
548
00:30:07,709 --> 00:30:09,669
That's not why I pushed him.
549
00:30:09,709 --> 00:30:11,629
It's not why I pushed him.
550
00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:16,789
No further questions.
551
00:30:16,829 --> 00:30:19,429
One down, one to go.
552
00:30:22,429 --> 00:30:25,909
Don't assume you'll have such
an easy time with Ruth tomorrow.
553
00:30:25,949 --> 00:30:28,389
I can't see her posing
too many problems.
554
00:30:28,429 --> 00:30:31,789
Really? Not sure she'll snap quite
as easily as you think.
555
00:30:31,829 --> 00:30:33,629
Pardon?
556
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:36,789
I know about your little plan
to wind up Ruth, get her angry,
557
00:30:36,829 --> 00:30:38,949
show the jury her temper,
558
00:30:38,989 --> 00:30:41,629
which in your world
makes her capable of murder.
559
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:45,589
Kate. Once a defence barrister,
always a defence barrister.
560
00:30:46,909 --> 00:30:49,109
What the hell did you think
you were playing at?
561
00:30:49,149 --> 00:30:51,829
She worked it out for herself.
With a little help from you.
562
00:30:51,869 --> 00:30:54,069
I'm sorry.
I thought I could trust her.
563
00:30:54,109 --> 00:30:56,149
Loyalties don't exist in our world,
Kate.
564
00:30:56,189 --> 00:30:58,029
Lydia told me to try
and undermine me,
565
00:30:58,069 --> 00:30:59,869
make me question
what else she knows.
566
00:30:59,909 --> 00:31:02,309
Jake's right.
You fell straight into her trap.
567
00:31:02,349 --> 00:31:04,909
You both know I don't agree with
prosecuting Ruth for murder.
568
00:31:04,949 --> 00:31:08,109
Of all the people to tell that to,
you chose Ruth Pendle's barrister.
569
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:10,709
We're mates. We were in the same
chambers for five years.
570
00:31:10,749 --> 00:31:12,469
Which clearly counts for nothing.
571
00:31:12,509 --> 00:31:15,989
You crossed a line, Kate, a line
which could jeopardise this trial.
572
00:31:16,029 --> 00:31:18,029
I knew it was a risk taking you on.
573
00:31:18,469 --> 00:31:21,069
What's that supposed to mean?
That Lydia's right.
574
00:31:21,109 --> 00:31:24,149
Once a defence barrister -
Don't be ridiculous.*
575
00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:46,730
I didn't know
you lot did late shifts.
576
00:31:46,888 --> 00:31:49,008
What are you doing here?
577
00:31:49,048 --> 00:31:52,288
I was just dropping off some files.
578
00:31:52,328 --> 00:31:54,048
What's your excuse?
579
00:31:54,088 --> 00:31:56,048
Just going over Neil Jenkins' notes.
580
00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:57,888
See if there's anything
we've missed.
581
00:31:57,928 --> 00:32:01,168
Right. I saw Jake at the court.
582
00:32:01,208 --> 00:32:03,168
We were talking about the case.
583
00:32:03,208 --> 00:32:06,248
He said you had a problem with it.
Look at this, Ron.
584
00:32:07,568 --> 00:32:10,728
Blood marks on Neil Jenkins' shoes.
Mm-hm.
585
00:32:10,768 --> 00:32:15,088
Surely we can argue that they're
from kicking Mr Peters. You can,
586
00:32:15,128 --> 00:32:17,248
but then defence will argue the fact
587
00:32:17,288 --> 00:32:19,848
that the blood may have splashed
onto the shoe
588
00:32:19,888 --> 00:32:22,608
when Mr Peters got hit
from his wound.
589
00:32:22,648 --> 00:32:24,568
You sound like Jake.
Hmph.
590
00:32:29,568 --> 00:32:31,808
Is that your sister?
591
00:32:31,848 --> 00:32:34,248
Yeah.
592
00:32:34,288 --> 00:32:36,008
I bet you miss her, eh?
593
00:32:37,048 --> 00:32:38,728
What?
594
00:32:42,848 --> 00:32:44,568
You know what, Kate?
595
00:32:44,608 --> 00:32:47,128
A few weeks back
596
00:32:47,168 --> 00:32:50,688
I had to go through missing persons
reports for young women,
597
00:32:50,728 --> 00:32:53,648
and came across an Elizabeth Barker.
598
00:32:56,288 --> 00:32:58,448
It's Beth.
599
00:33:00,328 --> 00:33:02,448
Yeah, well... Beth.
600
00:33:02,488 --> 00:33:07,888
It said on the report that she lived
in Manchester,
601
00:33:07,928 --> 00:33:10,808
but now thought to be living
somewhere in London.
602
00:33:11,808 --> 00:33:13,688
History of drug abuse.
603
00:33:15,448 --> 00:33:20,248
And the contact details on the form
were for a Kate Barker.
604
00:33:23,808 --> 00:33:25,528
Why didn't you say anything?
605
00:33:27,008 --> 00:33:28,768
I didn't need to.
606
00:33:28,808 --> 00:33:30,568
Not until now, anyway.
607
00:33:32,008 --> 00:33:35,648
So, is that why you've got an issue
with the case?
608
00:33:35,688 --> 00:33:37,968
Because it might be a bit too close
to home?
609
00:33:38,008 --> 00:33:40,088
Spot the detective.
610
00:33:40,128 --> 00:33:42,968
Well, I like to think sometimes
that I get it right.
611
00:33:44,328 --> 00:33:47,768
Did you also read that she'd had
her baby taken away?
612
00:33:49,448 --> 00:33:51,648
Yeah, I did.
613
00:33:53,368 --> 00:33:55,688
I assume Jake doesn't know?
614
00:33:56,728 --> 00:33:59,768
Like he'd care. Well that's a bit
harsh, don't you think?
615
00:33:59,808 --> 00:34:03,568
No, no, what is harsh, Ronnie,
is what happened to Ruth.
616
00:34:04,808 --> 00:34:07,048
The system didn't help her
when she needed it,
617
00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:09,128
and now we're left mopping up
their mess.
618
00:34:10,008 --> 00:34:13,008
If she hadn't got pregnant
she never would have been noticed.
619
00:34:13,048 --> 00:34:15,688
Is that what happened to your sister?
620
00:34:18,288 --> 00:34:20,968
Beth started hanging around
with this gang after school.
621
00:34:22,568 --> 00:34:25,408
It turned out the lad she fancied
was into drugs.
622
00:34:26,648 --> 00:34:29,248
So, I guess she was trying to
impress him.
623
00:34:30,888 --> 00:34:34,208
But instead of helping her...
624
00:34:35,408 --> 00:34:37,288
Mum just stuck her head
in the sand,
625
00:34:37,328 --> 00:34:39,208
and Dad...
626
00:34:39,248 --> 00:34:41,128
Dad kicked her out.
627
00:34:42,168 --> 00:34:44,688
And where did she go?
628
00:34:44,728 --> 00:34:46,528
On the streets.
629
00:34:47,648 --> 00:34:49,448
She tried to get help
from the social,
630
00:34:49,488 --> 00:34:51,288
but they didn't want to know.
631
00:34:51,328 --> 00:34:53,288
No, not until she got pregnant.
632
00:34:54,488 --> 00:34:57,088
And then when the baby was born,
they took her away.
633
00:34:58,528 --> 00:35:00,488
I haven't heard from her since.
634
00:35:03,048 --> 00:35:05,048
I call her mobile all the time
635
00:35:05,088 --> 00:35:07,448
just to hear her voice
on the answerphone.
636
00:35:12,568 --> 00:35:15,128
I wonder what she'd do, your sister,
637
00:35:15,168 --> 00:35:17,328
if she had the chance
to get her baby back?
638
00:35:17,368 --> 00:35:19,848
Oh! Whatever it takes.
639
00:35:21,208 --> 00:35:25,128
I remember the day she said goodbye
to her for the last time.
640
00:35:26,568 --> 00:35:29,408
She cried so hard, it...
641
00:35:31,808 --> 00:35:33,568
it was like her daughter had died.
642
00:35:33,608 --> 00:35:35,728
Yeah, I bet.
643
00:35:36,768 --> 00:35:39,888
That must have been what it was like
for Ruth, eh?
644
00:35:41,768 --> 00:35:45,208
Finally, someone gets
what I've been saying.
645
00:35:46,408 --> 00:35:47,808
Kate...
646
00:35:48,848 --> 00:35:50,808
that's not what I mean.
647
00:35:50,848 --> 00:35:54,168
I sympathise with Ruth's plight,
I really do.
648
00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:56,928
And you've just said yourself
649
00:35:56,968 --> 00:36:02,528
your sister would do whatever
it takes to get her child back.
650
00:36:04,208 --> 00:36:09,008
So why can't the same apply
to Ruth Pendle?
651
00:36:26,048 --> 00:36:28,048
You're late.
652
00:36:29,488 --> 00:36:31,488
Do you want me in court?
653
00:36:31,528 --> 00:36:34,928
Can you put your opinions on one
side and do the job in hand?
654
00:36:34,968 --> 00:36:36,368
Yeah.
655
00:36:36,408 --> 00:36:38,808
Stitch me up again
and you won't get another chance.
656
00:36:42,648 --> 00:36:44,248
And tidy yourself up.
657
00:36:44,288 --> 00:36:46,968
I don't want the judge seeing
my assistant looking a mess.
658
00:36:47,008 --> 00:36:48,968
I'm not your -
You are what I tell you to be.
659
00:36:56,088 --> 00:36:57,888
I needed Neil
to help me get Leo back.
660
00:36:57,928 --> 00:36:59,688
And why was that?
661
00:36:59,728 --> 00:37:01,888
I didn't put him
on the birth certificate,
662
00:37:01,928 --> 00:37:04,088
which meant he could fight
the adoption.
663
00:37:04,128 --> 00:37:07,448
So you didn't want to be
in a relationship with him?
664
00:37:09,088 --> 00:37:10,328
No.
665
00:37:10,368 --> 00:37:12,728
Can you tell the court why not?
666
00:37:14,848 --> 00:37:16,848
I knew it wouldn't work.
667
00:37:17,888 --> 00:37:20,528
We used to argue all the time
and sometimes he got angry.
668
00:37:20,568 --> 00:37:22,568
Angry? How?
669
00:37:23,768 --> 00:37:25,488
Shouting.
670
00:37:27,168 --> 00:37:29,328
And sometimes I thought
he was going to hit me.
671
00:37:29,368 --> 00:37:30,808
Milady, is this relevant?
672
00:37:30,848 --> 00:37:34,008
I'm demonstrating to the court
that my clients only intentions
673
00:37:34,048 --> 00:37:36,048
were to be reunited with her child.
674
00:37:36,088 --> 00:37:37,848
So desperate was she to do that,
675
00:37:37,888 --> 00:37:40,928
that she asked for the help
of a man she was scared of.
676
00:37:40,968 --> 00:37:44,928
Milady, we are not making
closing speeches just yet.
677
00:37:44,968 --> 00:37:47,448
Get to the point, Miss Smythson.
678
00:37:50,808 --> 00:37:55,848
How did Mr Jenkins react when Mr
Peters started "coming at him"?
679
00:37:57,808 --> 00:38:00,248
He lashed out.
What do you mean by that?
680
00:38:01,248 --> 00:38:05,168
I shouted at him to stop and tried
to grab Leo, but he wouldn't listen.
681
00:38:05,208 --> 00:38:07,808
And then what happened?
682
00:38:07,848 --> 00:38:11,088
Neil pushed Mr Peters really hard
and he hit the ground.
683
00:38:13,808 --> 00:38:17,368
He tried to get up again,
so Neil kicked him in the head.
684
00:38:17,408 --> 00:38:22,128
You saw Mr Jenkins kick him?
685
00:38:23,368 --> 00:38:24,608
Yes.
686
00:38:31,768 --> 00:38:35,168
We'll take a short adjournment.
687
00:38:35,208 --> 00:38:37,048
All rise.
688
00:38:48,608 --> 00:38:50,208
Jake.
689
00:38:51,808 --> 00:38:54,088
What if I've got it wrong?
Sorry?
690
00:38:55,808 --> 00:38:58,728
If Neil is the only one who can
contest the adoption order,
691
00:38:58,768 --> 00:39:01,128
then why would Ruth make sure
he got found guilty?
692
00:39:01,168 --> 00:39:03,768
If he goes to prison
there's no hope of that happening.
693
00:39:03,808 --> 00:39:05,888
Which she obviously knows.
Exactly.
694
00:39:05,928 --> 00:39:08,568
But if she goes along with his story
of self-defence,
695
00:39:08,608 --> 00:39:11,328
there's a small chance the jury
might find them not guilty.
696
00:39:11,368 --> 00:39:13,528
But it's a big risk.
697
00:39:13,568 --> 00:39:16,248
The pathologist report shows
that Mr Peters was killed
698
00:39:16,288 --> 00:39:18,088
by a blunt force to the head.
699
00:39:18,128 --> 00:39:20,888
The most likely outcome
is a guilty verdict for both.
700
00:39:20,928 --> 00:39:23,648
Unless Ruth points the finger firmly
at Neil
701
00:39:23,688 --> 00:39:26,248
and removes any evidence
implicating herself.
702
00:39:29,208 --> 00:39:32,328
How long had you been taking drugs
before you got pregnant?
703
00:39:32,368 --> 00:39:36,608
A few years. And did Mr Jenkins
share the same pastime?
704
00:39:36,648 --> 00:39:38,528
No. He'd never touched them.
705
00:39:38,568 --> 00:39:41,128
What did Mr Jenkins say
when he found out?
706
00:39:41,168 --> 00:39:43,368
Miss Pendle?
707
00:39:43,408 --> 00:39:45,608
He didn't know.
708
00:39:45,648 --> 00:39:48,088
You lied to him?
Yes.
709
00:39:48,128 --> 00:39:50,128
You must be very good at lying
710
00:39:50,168 --> 00:39:53,248
to have kept not only your drug use
from Mr Jenkins,
711
00:39:53,288 --> 00:39:55,688
but also the fact you were pregnant.
712
00:39:57,048 --> 00:39:58,928
How do we know you're not lying now?
713
00:39:58,968 --> 00:40:01,048
What? How do we know
you're not lying
714
00:40:01,088 --> 00:40:03,168
about the day Mr Peters was killed?
715
00:40:04,208 --> 00:40:06,048
It was him. I swear.
716
00:40:09,968 --> 00:40:13,168
What size shoe are you, Miss Pendle?
Sorry?
717
00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:14,608
My Lady?
718
00:40:14,648 --> 00:40:17,008
Answer the question, please.
719
00:40:17,048 --> 00:40:18,888
Five.
720
00:40:18,928 --> 00:40:21,688
So why were the shoes the police
removed from you,
721
00:40:21,728 --> 00:40:23,928
at the time of your arrest,
a size seven?
722
00:40:25,328 --> 00:40:31,328
In fact, if the jury look at
the shoes on the CCTV image
723
00:40:31,368 --> 00:40:33,768
of Miss Pendle at the home
of Mr Peters,
724
00:40:33,808 --> 00:40:37,728
and then at the shoes
forensics photographed,
725
00:40:37,768 --> 00:40:39,848
you'll see they're different.
726
00:40:39,888 --> 00:40:43,208
I appreciate to the untrained eye
they might look the same,
727
00:40:43,248 --> 00:40:47,648
but thankfully I have an unhealthy
obsession with trainers.
728
00:40:47,688 --> 00:40:49,928
I never did come to terms
with heels.
729
00:40:49,968 --> 00:40:53,128
But you'll notice that
there's a very thin white stripe
730
00:40:53,168 --> 00:40:56,368
on the trainers in the CCTV image.
731
00:40:56,408 --> 00:41:03,488
Yet it's vanished by the time Miss
Pendle is arrested on the same day.
732
00:41:03,528 --> 00:41:05,688
Can you explain that?
733
00:41:09,128 --> 00:41:11,168
The photo must have something on it.
734
00:41:11,208 --> 00:41:14,008
I think we both know
the real answer.
735
00:41:14,048 --> 00:41:16,528
You swapped trainers
with those of Lisa Longwood,
736
00:41:16,568 --> 00:41:18,648
the woman whose home
you were found at.
737
00:41:18,688 --> 00:41:21,208
And I think you swapped those
trainers because you knew
738
00:41:21,248 --> 00:41:22,888
that forensics would find traces
739
00:41:22,928 --> 00:41:25,488
of Mr Peter's DNA on yours
from where you had kicked him.
740
00:41:25,528 --> 00:41:27,888
That's ridiculous.
741
00:41:37,448 --> 00:41:40,128
What was it like
the day you gave Leo up?
742
00:41:40,168 --> 00:41:42,328
Pardon?
743
00:41:42,368 --> 00:41:44,528
Tell us about it.
744
00:41:44,568 --> 00:41:48,448
Help us to understand
what you've been through.
745
00:41:55,488 --> 00:41:58,088
Social Services came
to my mother's to get him.
746
00:42:01,048 --> 00:42:04,368
I remember holding him in my arms
for the last time.
747
00:42:06,848 --> 00:42:10,368
I'd just given him a bath
and he smelt all clean.
748
00:42:11,208 --> 00:42:13,928
I told him
that his mummy loved him...
749
00:42:15,688 --> 00:42:17,808
and one day I'd see him again.
750
00:42:23,008 --> 00:42:24,808
And that's why you wanted him back?
751
00:42:24,848 --> 00:42:26,568
Yes.
752
00:42:26,608 --> 00:42:28,408
So badly that you'd do anything.
753
00:42:28,448 --> 00:42:30,328
He's my son.
754
00:42:30,368 --> 00:42:33,248
So badly that you wouldn't let
anyone stand in your way.
755
00:42:33,288 --> 00:42:35,488
He belongs with me.
No.
756
00:42:35,528 --> 00:42:37,768
He belongs with his parents.
757
00:42:37,808 --> 00:42:41,528
Gareth Wilks and Richard Peters.
758
00:42:41,568 --> 00:42:44,728
Only he's lost one of those now,
hasn't he? You made sure of that.
759
00:42:44,768 --> 00:42:46,928
No. You waited until Mr Jenkins
had left with Leo
760
00:42:46,968 --> 00:42:49,128
and then you kicked Mr Peters
in the head.
761
00:42:49,168 --> 00:42:50,848
I didn't.
You wanted to make sure
762
00:42:50,888 --> 00:42:53,328
that he never took your baby boy
away again, didn't you?
763
00:42:53,368 --> 00:42:56,448
That's not what happened.
You're his mum, Ruth.
764
00:42:56,488 --> 00:42:59,568
Didn't you love him enough to fight
for him? Yes. Yes, of course I did.
765
00:42:59,608 --> 00:43:02,088
Of course you did.
766
00:43:02,128 --> 00:43:04,648
You were prepared
to let Neil Jenkins believe
767
00:43:04,688 --> 00:43:07,568
that he'd killed Richard Peters
when he pushed him.
768
00:43:07,608 --> 00:43:10,448
Prepared to lie under oath
so that you got off.
769
00:43:10,488 --> 00:43:13,248
You switched trainers
with those of Lisa Longwood,
770
00:43:13,288 --> 00:43:16,568
knowing that yours would prove
you kicked Mr Peters in the head.
771
00:43:16,608 --> 00:43:19,408
In fact, you were prepared
to do whatever it takes,
772
00:43:19,448 --> 00:43:21,208
weren't you, Ruth?
773
00:43:36,448 --> 00:43:38,248
No further questions.
774
00:43:51,728 --> 00:43:53,848
On the count of murder
of Richard Peters,
775
00:43:53,888 --> 00:43:55,968
how do you find the defendant
Neil Jenkins?
776
00:43:56,008 --> 00:43:57,848
Not guilty.
777
00:43:57,888 --> 00:44:01,488
On the count of murder, how do find
the defendant Ruth Pendle?
778
00:44:01,528 --> 00:44:03,368
Guilty.
779
00:44:20,648 --> 00:44:22,928
How on earth did you figure out
the trainer thing?
780
00:44:22,968 --> 00:44:25,808
Like I said, unhealthy obsession.
781
00:44:26,848 --> 00:44:29,008
I'm sorry for being such a pain.
782
00:44:29,048 --> 00:44:31,568
You're forgiven. Just.
Kate!
783
00:44:35,208 --> 00:44:37,048
Oh, yes? Something I should know?
784
00:44:37,088 --> 00:44:40,568
Plenty, Jake. There's plenty.
Can I get you a drink?
785
00:44:52,230 --> 00:45:32,373
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