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'In the criminal justice
system, the people are represented
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by two separate yet equally important
groups:
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the police who investigate crime,
and the Crown Prosecutors
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who prosecute the offenders.
These are their stories.'
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Don't you just push the button
and then you're off?
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Josh's dad has one like this.
You need the bloody fob to start it.
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Well, it's not in there.
I'll push it again.
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Like that's going to work.
You got a better idea?
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Can we get a vehicle
registration check please? Over.
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Are you the owner of this vehicle?
Yes.
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No. It's my father's.
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Do you mind stepping
out of the vehicle for me?
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You too.
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Vehicle is registered
to a Charlotte Leigh.
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That's your dad's name, is it?
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No.
Didn't think so.
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We didn't do anything wrong.
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We were just looking after it for
her. She went to get some petrol.
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Leaving her purse behind?
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Charlotte Leigh, 40.
DVLA gave an address in Richmond.
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Spoke to the husband, bit frantic,
says he's got no idea where she is.
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Never gone missing before.
What about those two?
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They reckon they found it unlocked,
and tried to start it.
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It's a keyless ignition. The fob's
got to be in the car. Yeah.
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And all that time it was sitting in
her purse, no more than two feet away.
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Why don't we check the other end
of the bridge, CCTV.
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See if she went off for a walk
with anyone.
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Or...
Or what?
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Well, mate, look. It's a cold night,
her coat is still in the car.
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She dropped her purse there.
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Maybe she went for a dip.
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Someone must have seen her.
You got people looking for her?
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We have,
but there's no sightings yet.
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When did you last see your wife?
This morning, before I went to work.
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And you didn't see her at all
this evening? No.
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I went for a pint after I left site.
What do you do?
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I'm a painter and decorator.
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What time did you get home
from the pub?
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It'd be after midnight I'd say.
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You didn't think it was strange that
your wife wasn't here when you got home?
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She works late the odd time. I
figured she was still at the office. Where's that?
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Over in Clapham.
Charlie's a property developer.
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She throws work my way,
doing the places up.
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Sean, was everything all right
at work?
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No money worries, any problems?
Yeah, fine.
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She wasn't anxious or depressed?
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You don't think...
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You don't think she killed herself?
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No. She wouldn't.
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Listen, mate. Has anything like this
ever happened before?
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Anything, anything abnormal?
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There was once, before my time.
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When she was still with Holly's dad.
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She took an overdose.
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When was that?
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This was years ago, she's fine now.
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I was um... at a concert at school.
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And what time did you get home?
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I think it was about half nine.
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And was your mum here?
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Where is Mum?
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Well, that's what we're trying
to find out, Holly.
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I could go out looking for her.
I think your mum
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would want you here when she
got back home, don't you?
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Did your mum mention to you
about going out,
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or maybe going to meet someone?
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No, nothing.
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I don't know.
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What's happened to her?!
Mum is gonna come back, isn't she?
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OK, that's enough. It's OK.
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We've had patrols and Thames
out all night looking for her,
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contacted the hospitals.
Nothing yet. No note? Well, no.
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Maybe she wasn't planning on leaving.
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She's a property developer -
plenty of money involved.
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Don't tell me we're dealing
with a kidnapping.
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We've had no card activity
since yesterday morning
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and no ransom note -
That we know of.
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Could be that the husband
didn't want to tell us?
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Has she attempted suicide before?
Yeah.
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Now we find her car abandoned
on Albert Bridge. Any joy from the CCTV?
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Nope, there's no cameras
on the bridge.
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That's brilliant. Why don't we ask
around her close friends?
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See what we can find out
about Charlotte Leigh.
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I saw Charlotte last week.
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She was planning a trip to France in
the summer, she'd already booked the house.
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She wasn't planning
on killing herself.
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A couple of years ago
she took an overdose?
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Charlotte was on a course of
painkillers, she was under a lot of stress.
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She double dosed by accident.
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Jess?
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Hello, darling.
Hi.
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How was school?
Fine.
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Darling, these are the police.
Hello.
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Hi. Did you get my text,
about Charlotte?
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Yeah, everyone was talking about it.
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Have you spoken to her?
No. She wasn't in.
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Can I go?
I've got a ton of revision.
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Yeah, of course.
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Did Charlotte mention anything,
any problems lately?
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You've spoken to her ex?
No. No, we haven't.
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Richard McGrath.
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To say he's a drunken, violent pig
would be unfair to pigs.
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He hit her?
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That's why she was on
the painkillers -
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that bastard fractured her jaw.
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It was only for Holly's sake
that she finally had the courage to leave him.
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Did she know that he was violent?
Yeah, she knew.
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And does Holly still see her father?
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She started seeing him
without telling Charlotte.
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I had to pick her up from there
once. Where was that?
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He's got a flat in Battersea.
You know, near the bridge?
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When was the last time you saw
your ex-wife, Mr McGrath?
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Last weekend. I'd been a good boy
and she'd granted me permission
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to see my own daughter.
For an hour. Supervised.
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You don't exactly sound happy
about that situation.
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Do you have kids?
Yes, I do.
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How would you feel? Happy?
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And you haven't seen or spoken
to your ex-wife since?
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We spoke last night. Holly wasn't
answering her phone, so she called
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me in a panic, as usual,
accusing me, assuming she was here.
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And was she?
No. She said she was
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at a school concert,
and I believed her.
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And what time did you receive
that call?
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8.27. And where were you
the rest of the night?
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Gatwick Airport.
Cab picked me up at 9.00.
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I've got a job on site in Edinburgh
and I had to meet the contractor first thing.
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And what is it you do for a living?
You a painter and decorator as well?
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No. I'm an architect.
That's how Charlotte and I met.
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She bought the properties,
I did the schemes.
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Until we split up,
and then she turfed me out.
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He was pretty useless, even here,
to be honest.
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And since then?
A complete and utter nightmare.
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How so?
Always barging in here unannounced.
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Please.
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I begged her to get a restraining
order.
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She was always too afraid
of his reaction though.
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Has he been here recently?
Last week.
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Charlotte had been trying
to help him seek treatment,
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as a condition of access to Holly.
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The cleaner he got,
the more he could see her.
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Look, I hope I'm wrong, but it
really wouldn't surprise me if he
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had something to do with this,
especially since the arrest.
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The arrest?
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He was arrested for assault, like,
just a few weeks ago.
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Aren't you guys supposed to know
stuff like that already?
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Yes. We are.
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'Please hurry. Please.'
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'It's OK Charlotte, a unit
will be with you in five minutes. Just stay with me.'
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'Give me the phone!'
'Richard, no!'
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'Charlotte?'
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And that's where it ends.
Thankfully.
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So, look, at least we've got it now
though, eh?
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I'm sorry about that. Human error.
Won't happen again.
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Don't worry, Ange.
She refused to make a statement.
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Yeah, frightened of making him
worse, apparently.
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Right, Ange, what were McGrath's
movements
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the night Charlotte Leigh
disappeared, please?
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She called him at 8.27pm.
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Call lasted for eight minutes.
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Then a car picked him up for the
airport at 9.00, and we have him
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on a flight to Edinburgh
that evening. OK. Well, that's enough time?
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For what? She called him,
looking for their daughter.
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When she gets there, he's drunk,
they argue...
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He hits her too hard.
Dumps her body, makes it look
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like suicide, all within 25 minutes.
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Just because he's got
a drink problem
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does not make him a murderer.
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I agree with that, but you heard
what I heard. It's worth checking.
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Anyway, it doesn't matter.
We haven't got a body. We have now.
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I'm getting too old for this.
Come on.
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It's better than being stuck indoors
all the time.
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Like the old days eh, Ronnie?
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Well, Ange was right
about something -
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we've definitely got ourselves
a body.
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Cause of death -
acute intracerebral haemorrhage.
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Compound fracture
of the occipital bone.
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That's a whack to the back of the
head to me and you.
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Jumping off the bridge?
Unlikely.
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If she'd hit her head on the way
down, given the speed of the impact
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I wouldn't expect there to be
much skull left.
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Nice.
I've examined the lungs -
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there's no distension
and the airways are clear.
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Meaning?
She didn't drown.
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She was dead
before she hit the water.
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I've told you. She was screaming
at me down the phone,
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accusing me of having Holly
there without her 'permission'.
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All her usual paranoid bullshit.
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So is that why you assaulted her
earlier this month?
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She virtually had me pissing
in a cup before I could see my own daughter.
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I snapped, OK? I lost my temper.
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Did you lose your temper the other
night, you know, when she came round?
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Very funny. She never came round.
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She wouldn't have been welcome
if she did.
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She hasn't ever set foot
inside my place.
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You know that already, don't you?
Forensics have been all over it.
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She's taken away your job,
your home, your daughter.
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Basically your whole life, so, Mr
McGrath, you must be pretty bitter.
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Yeah, of course I'm bitter.
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So are plenty of divorced fathers.
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You can see how this looks.
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You have a drink problem that's
completely out of control, a history of violence.
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With your wife gone, you would have
sole custody of your daughter.
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Yeah, a daughter
whose mother's dead.
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How's that for a parenting strategy?
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We pulled the body out over there.
From the map that's Hammersmith Bridge.
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And you think she went in
at Albert Bridge?
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Well, that's where her car
was found, yeah.
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It would be unusual for a body
to travel upstream at that time.
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But not impossible?
Well, no.
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Most likely, she was dumped
to the west.
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Kew, Richmond maybe?
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And who do we know who lives
in Richmond?
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Yeah. Sean, Holly and Charlotte.
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You know what Sam? Wes might not
like it, but I think I'm right.
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No way would McGrath have enough
time to kill Charlotte Leigh
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at his place in Battersea, drive the
body, in her car, over to Richmond,
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dump the car at the Albert Bridge,
get back to his place in Battersea
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to pick up a cab for 9.00
to get him to the airport.
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Not within half an hour, no.
And yet Charlotte Leigh went in
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to the river,
two minutes from her own home.
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So who helped her off that bridge?
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You say you were at a school
concert, and did your mum drop you off there?
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No. Kim drove me.
Kim?
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My nanny.
Right. You have a nanny?
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Charlotte liked her to be here
after school, so Holly wasn't alone.
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So did Kim pick you up
and bring you back?
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No. I wasn't feeling well,
so I left early. I got the bus back.
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So you didn't phone you mum
to be picked up then?
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What about your dad?
Did you speak to him? No.
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Well, what about your stepfather,
Sean? No, I didn't speak to anyone!
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Do we have to do this now?
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I know this is difficult,
it's just that Sean told us that
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when he got home at around midnight,
your mum wasn't here.
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So you have to understand
as far as we're concerned,
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you're probably the last person
to see your mum alive.
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Holly?
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I didn't actually see her.
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I'm sorry, I don't follow you.
I didn't see her.
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What, she wasn't here?
I don't know.
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The lights were on.
I thought she was.
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00:14:03,579 --> 00:14:06,179
So when you came in you didn't call
out to her 'hello',
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or pop your head in the room
to see if she was about?
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And why didn't you do that?
Was that because of your dad?
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We'd had this massive fight
before I went out.
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I couldn't cope with part two
when I got back.
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00:14:24,139 --> 00:14:26,139
She said she hated him. So I...
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So... I said... I wished
she was dead.
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Why did I say that?
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How long have you been
with the family, Kim?
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About three years. It was just as
Richard and Charlotte
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were breaking up.
It got pretty ugly at times.
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00:14:44,059 --> 00:14:47,579
And how about the new husband, Sean?
Any ugly moments with him recently?
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00:14:47,619 --> 00:14:50,099
Well, just like any other couple,
you know?
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Nothing major, but they argued
sometimes yeah.
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00:14:54,179 --> 00:14:56,179
What about?
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00:14:56,219 --> 00:14:59,859
I'm not sure whether I should say
this, it feels a bit wrong, but...
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Charlotte could be quite hard work.
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00:15:02,699 --> 00:15:06,179
She treated him a bit like an
employee, you know what I mean? Yeah.
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She even gave him an allowance.
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00:15:08,259 --> 00:15:10,579
I honestly don't know what he was
doing with her.
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He could have done so much better.
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00:15:12,659 --> 00:15:16,539
Well, Kim, the night Charlotte
was killed, Holly said
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that you dropped her at the school
concert, that's right?
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00:15:20,819 --> 00:15:23,339
Yeah, that's right.
You didn't stay, no?
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00:15:23,379 --> 00:15:26,979
No. Holly was getting a lift back
with her friend, Jess.
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Charlotte said I could go home.
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00:15:29,059 --> 00:15:32,739
Well, Sean said that when he got
back, Holly was on her own.
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Considering how protective Charlotte
is, seems a bit odd, don't you think?
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00:15:36,939 --> 00:15:40,739
It's kinda weird, yeah. Charlotte
would never leave her at home alone.
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But if Sean said that's what
happened, then it must be.
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Look I really have to go,
I'm already late.
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00:15:46,019 --> 00:15:48,019
OK, well thanks for your help.
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00:15:50,499 --> 00:15:54,299
Looks like the pretty nanny's got
a crush on the handsome husband.
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Yeah. The bloke's like catnip,
isn't he?
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I wonder what his alibi's like.
What do you reckon?
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Well, before he went to the pub,
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he says he was working overtime
with a... Eddie Markham.
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I don't want no trouble like.
Me Uncle Sean's a good fella.
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Let's me crash here,
till I find me own place.
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This is Sean's flat?
It is, yeah.
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He's letting me stay here
for nothing as well.
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00:16:17,419 --> 00:16:19,419
That's decent of him.
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00:16:22,179 --> 00:16:24,179
Does Sean pop by often?
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00:16:24,299 --> 00:16:27,139
He keeps his painting stuff here,
out in the yard.
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00:16:27,179 --> 00:16:31,379
Does he er... does he keep
anything else here?
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00:16:31,419 --> 00:16:34,419
Or are these yours?
Ah, man.
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Sure that's nothing to do with me
at all. No?
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00:16:37,179 --> 00:16:41,139
So what's the story, Eddie? Meet a
lot of bored housewives in this trade, do you?
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Not me.
But Sean takes advantage?
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00:16:46,059 --> 00:16:49,859
Come on, lads.
All right, he's my uncle, yeah?
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00:16:49,899 --> 00:16:51,859
He's doing me a favour here.
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00:16:51,899 --> 00:16:54,779
We could continue this conversation
down the station.
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We'll even ring your boss, tell him
you're gonna be late. OK, all right.
295
00:16:59,979 --> 00:17:01,979
It's nothing bad like.
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00:17:02,339 --> 00:17:05,539
But yeah, sometimes Sean
gives me the nod
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00:17:05,579 --> 00:17:09,059
and I have to make meself scarce,
you get me?
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00:17:09,099 --> 00:17:12,579
Who says romance is dead, eh?
Who's the latest?
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00:17:12,619 --> 00:17:15,379
I don't know her name,
but last week I seen this lass
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00:17:15,419 --> 00:17:17,459
heading in here
when I was pulling up.
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00:17:17,539 --> 00:17:19,539
What's she look like?
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00:17:19,659 --> 00:17:25,339
You know, dead cute.
Long brown hair. Quite young.
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00:17:25,379 --> 00:17:29,379
Sean said you were working
all evening Tuesday together. Is that right?
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00:17:29,419 --> 00:17:32,299
Yeah, we were meant to be,
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00:17:32,339 --> 00:17:36,179
but after a bit Sean got a call,
said he had to go.
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00:17:36,979 --> 00:17:40,859
Did he say where?
No, just said it was personal.
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00:17:44,379 --> 00:17:46,339
Here you are, mate.
Lovely. Cheers.
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00:17:47,299 --> 00:17:50,739
Sean Harte told us he went to the
pub after work, right? Yeah.
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00:17:50,779 --> 00:17:53,139
Er... Quinn's.
Well, he lied about working late,
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00:17:53,179 --> 00:17:56,619
so why don't we see if he lied to us
about going to the pub an'all?
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00:17:57,699 --> 00:18:01,579
Sean's a regular here. So he was
definitely in here that night?
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Came in just before the bell.
How did he seem?
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All right, I suppose.
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00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:08,339
Sat at the bar,
had a couple of whiskeys.
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00:18:08,379 --> 00:18:11,579
Maybe he was hiding from the wife,
you know? I didn't ask.
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00:18:11,619 --> 00:18:14,459
What time did he leave?
About midnight I'd say.
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00:18:14,499 --> 00:18:17,859
I was locked up by then.
I let him out the back.
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00:18:17,899 --> 00:18:21,099
He was parked out there. Said he had
some stuff for the bins.
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00:18:21,139 --> 00:18:23,699
What stuff?
From work I imagine.
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00:18:24,579 --> 00:18:26,779
Do you mind if we take a look?
Help yourself.
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00:18:26,819 --> 00:18:29,219
Ta. But the bins were emptied
this morning.
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00:18:32,699 --> 00:18:36,339
Whatever it was, it is now long
gone. It's a landfill site in Essex.
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00:18:36,379 --> 00:18:38,379
Do you know what I wish, Ron?
What?
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00:18:38,419 --> 00:18:41,659
I wish I had the resources to go
searching landfill, but...
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00:18:41,699 --> 00:18:45,099
Don't tell me, your hands are tied?
Yeah, welcome to my world.
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00:18:45,139 --> 00:18:47,619
I've already got the ex-husband
making a complaint.
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00:18:47,659 --> 00:18:49,979
I don't need the current one
doing the same thing.
328
00:18:50,019 --> 00:18:52,419
We could have a lead here
with this husband.
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00:18:52,459 --> 00:18:55,659
Sam, with respect, what you've got
is some guy who may or may not
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00:18:55,699 --> 00:18:58,019
have put something in a bin.
It's not enough.
331
00:19:00,699 --> 00:19:03,379
Sorry. Forensics are in
from the Leigh house.
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00:19:06,179 --> 00:19:08,379
Someone had a real go
at cleaning up here,
333
00:19:08,419 --> 00:19:11,779
but we found a faint patch of blood
on the rug near the kitchen.
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00:19:11,819 --> 00:19:13,819
Again here, an attempted cleanup,
335
00:19:13,859 --> 00:19:17,459
but we found traces of blood protein
all around the kitchen area.
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00:19:17,499 --> 00:19:21,339
On the grouting, on the base of the
tap, and in the trap of the sink.
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00:19:21,379 --> 00:19:23,859
Recent?
Difficult to say, exactly.
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00:19:23,899 --> 00:19:26,539
But we know who it belongs to.
Charlotte Leigh?
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00:19:26,579 --> 00:19:28,939
Yes.
Right.
340
00:19:28,979 --> 00:19:32,579
Well, let's see if her husband can
explain what it's doing there.
341
00:19:32,812 --> 00:19:35,732
I may have played around,
but I didn't kill my wife.
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00:19:36,556 --> 00:19:38,576
That's pure madness
and you know it,
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00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:40,359
otherwise you'd have arrested me
already.
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00:19:40,417 --> 00:19:44,097
What did you dump in the bins
outside the pub?
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00:19:44,137 --> 00:19:46,457
Just some old dust sheets.
I cleared it with Ged.
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00:19:46,497 --> 00:19:49,217
Are you getting me for fly tipping?
We know you lied.
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00:19:49,257 --> 00:19:52,257
Your nephew said you left him to it,
so where did you go?
348
00:19:55,697 --> 00:19:58,057
I was on another job,
a bit of private work.
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00:19:58,097 --> 00:20:00,657
I didn't want the contractor
taking his cut.
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00:20:00,697 --> 00:20:03,937
Look, I tried to pull a fast one
there, I hold my hands up to that.
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00:20:03,977 --> 00:20:08,297
I didn't tell Eddie, god bless him,
cos he'd only let it slip.
352
00:20:08,337 --> 00:20:11,217
You've seen what he's like.
We have, he likes to talk.
353
00:20:11,257 --> 00:20:14,337
He told us about the girl he saw
going into your flat last week.
354
00:20:14,377 --> 00:20:17,857
Yeah. Was that a bit extra
on the side, too?
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00:20:25,697 --> 00:20:27,697
That was Holly.
356
00:20:28,617 --> 00:20:31,257
There's something you need to know
about that girl.
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00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:33,297
Really, what's that?
358
00:20:34,857 --> 00:20:36,857
She's made life very difficult.
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00:20:39,417 --> 00:20:41,417
Didn't want it to come to this.
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00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:47,577
She's obsessed with me.
361
00:20:48,577 --> 00:20:50,577
The poor girl reckons she's in love.
362
00:20:51,377 --> 00:20:55,017
You still haven't found who killed
mum?! He's still out there!
363
00:20:55,057 --> 00:20:57,857
It's OK. No-one's going to hurt you.
We're getting closer.
364
00:20:57,897 --> 00:20:59,737
Is that why you're talking to Sean?
365
00:20:59,777 --> 00:21:01,897
Do you think he's got something
to do with it?
366
00:21:01,910 --> 00:21:04,990
Sean lied to us.
Sean was lying to your mother.
367
00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:08,310
He was... he was cheating on her.
368
00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:11,390
Two faced bastard.
Dad, don't. Please.
369
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:17,750
Holly, did Sean ever threaten you
at all?
370
00:21:24,550 --> 00:21:26,550
What is it Holly?
371
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:30,070
Are you scared of him?
372
00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:33,390
Holly?
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00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:37,270
You said that you'd left
the school concert early,
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00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:40,350
and then went straight home.
Is that right?
375
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:45,910
Yeah. Yeah, I went home to get
changed, out of my uniform.
376
00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:47,950
Then what happened?
377
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:50,550
I...didn't want to stay at home.
378
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:53,870
I went round to yours.
But you weren't there.
379
00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:56,710
I let myself in, sorry.
That's all right.
380
00:21:57,710 --> 00:21:59,710
You know you're always welcome.
381
00:22:00,630 --> 00:22:02,630
Why didn't you call me?
382
00:22:05,790 --> 00:22:09,230
Holly, did anyone else see you
at your dad's house?
383
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:12,990
I don't think so. I just watched TV
for a few hours.
384
00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:16,430
And why didn't you want to go back
to your own home?
385
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:21,070
Mum was out, working late, and I...
386
00:22:24,270 --> 00:22:29,670
I thought... I thought Sean
might come back.
387
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:36,270
OK. And?
388
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:48,870
I was...
389
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:52,950
I was scared to be...
390
00:22:54,670 --> 00:22:56,910
I was scared to be on my own
with him.
391
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:58,950
He's been trying...
392
00:23:00,110 --> 00:23:03,790
He's been coming on to me.
I didn't let him... Holly?!
393
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:07,390
Please, he told me not to say
anything, Dad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry!
394
00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:13,870
So, she's accusing him of grooming
her, and he's saying she was obsessed
395
00:23:13,910 --> 00:23:17,190
with him. Either way, Mum ends up
in the Thames. Yeah.
396
00:23:17,230 --> 00:23:19,190
Arrest them both on suspicion
of murder
397
00:23:19,230 --> 00:23:21,030
and see whose story cracks first?
398
00:23:21,070 --> 00:23:24,270
You really think she's capable of
killing her mother? Over a man?
399
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:27,710
What we have suggests that Charlotte
Leigh was killed in the kitchen.
400
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:30,310
But there's nothing hard
to link them to the murder?
401
00:23:30,350 --> 00:23:33,750
I hate to say it, but the girl's
alibi is not the strongest I've heard.
402
00:23:33,790 --> 00:23:36,910
She matches the description of
the girl going into Harte's flat.
403
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:40,030
That could be anyone. He's admitted
to being a ladies' man.
404
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:42,710
Have you been to her school?
Spoken to her mates? Not yet.
405
00:23:42,750 --> 00:23:44,990
Well, you should. Girls talk.
406
00:23:46,790 --> 00:23:49,590
Can you tell us anything about Holly,
before this?
407
00:23:49,630 --> 00:23:52,710
She came through a difficult time
when her parents divorced.
408
00:23:52,750 --> 00:23:57,230
Holly's a bright young thing, though
I've noticed her marks are not
409
00:23:57,270 --> 00:24:00,230
what they were,
which is a cause for concern.
410
00:24:00,270 --> 00:24:02,270
I can imagine.
411
00:24:02,430 --> 00:24:04,750
But the night of the concert,
Mr Crossley?
412
00:24:04,790 --> 00:24:09,950
The girls performed a recital.
Several pieces I'd written myself.
413
00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:15,310
Can we keep these please?
Of course.
414
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:18,510
It actually went rather well.
And Holly?
415
00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:21,030
Did she play a part in the concert
herself?
416
00:24:21,070 --> 00:24:24,150
She plays the flute.
But she left early, yeah? Yes.
417
00:24:24,190 --> 00:24:26,030
When I went to collect her
for her solo,
418
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:28,750
Jess informed me the young girl
had been taken unwell.
419
00:24:28,790 --> 00:24:31,390
So I had to carry on without her,
sadly.
420
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:34,550
You say Jess. Was that Jess Hays?
Yeah.
421
00:24:35,070 --> 00:24:40,230
It wasn't a lie. She was in the
toilets, and she did leave early.
422
00:24:45,070 --> 00:24:47,270
I don't want her to get in
to trouble.
423
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:49,870
Darling, just tell the truth,
it's OK.
424
00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:53,350
Have you spoken to Holly
about that night?
425
00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:56,870
No, but I tried to.
She wasn't answering her phone.
426
00:24:56,910 --> 00:24:59,550
She never said where she was going?
Not to me.
427
00:24:59,590 --> 00:25:01,390
Home, I assumed.
428
00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:05,070
Didn't mention to you anything about
meeting anyone? Maybe a boyfriend?
429
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:07,670
No, boyfriends
were strictly off-limits,
430
00:25:07,710 --> 00:25:09,910
as far as her mum was concerned.
431
00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:13,710
Why's that? Some boy liked one of
Holly's profile pictures once.
432
00:25:14,910 --> 00:25:19,150
Her mum went round to his parents'
house and totally freaked.
433
00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:22,910
That was pretty typical.
Jess!
434
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:24,950
Well, it's the truth.
435
00:25:25,870 --> 00:25:28,110
And how was Holly, Jess?
436
00:25:28,150 --> 00:25:31,630
Her reaction to her mum going round
to the boy's house regarding
437
00:25:31,670 --> 00:25:34,870
the photographs? Was she angry?
No. She was scared of her.
438
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:37,830
I used to tell her she ought
to stick up for herself.
439
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:43,390
You say used to? She got defensive,
told me to mind my own business.
440
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:49,630
On the night, Holly left here
wearing her school uniform.
441
00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:52,230
Yeah, but forensics took it in
already. It's clean.
442
00:25:52,270 --> 00:25:56,270
But maybe she had another one?
Girls at school always have a spare uniform.
443
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:58,230
We need to sweep that house again,
444
00:25:58,270 --> 00:26:01,310
just in case we missed something
the first time around.
445
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:04,910
Someone should have their knuckles
rapped for missing this.
446
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:08,150
You reckon? That was found
in a carrier bag, under her bed.
447
00:26:08,190 --> 00:26:11,070
There's blood all over it.
Is it a match for the victim's?
448
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:13,790
Yes. Given what her mate said
about how she felt
449
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:16,910
about her own mother,
she sounds like a ticking bomb.
450
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:19,390
No, look, that just doesn't feel
right, Sam.
451
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:21,510
Why? They were competing
for the same man.
452
00:26:21,550 --> 00:26:23,590
She just couldn't have done it
on her own.
453
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:26,470
It's OK, I'm dealing with it.
It's under control.
454
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:30,230
Listen, I'm gonna have to go.
I'll see you later.
455
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:34,950
I'm afraid you won't -
unless that's a solicitor.
456
00:26:34,990 --> 00:26:36,990
You're under arrest.
457
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:44,990
Holly Leigh.
What now?
458
00:26:45,030 --> 00:26:48,630
I'm arresting you on suspicion of the
murder of Charlotte Leigh. What?!
459
00:26:48,670 --> 00:26:51,550
You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defence
460
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:53,950
if you do not mention when questioned
something
461
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:56,550
which you later rely on in Court.
Anything you do say
462
00:26:56,590 --> 00:26:58,790
may be given in evidence.
Do you understand?
463
00:26:58,830 --> 00:27:02,270
Yes. OK. Officers... It'll be fine.
Don't worry, don't worry.
464
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:10,230
Why don't you believe me?!
465
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:16,310
She's pretty convincing.
Jury might think so, too.
466
00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:19,590
And when they hear she was infatuated
with her mother's husband?
467
00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:23,030
Yeah, on his say-so. Defence will
say that we should be sympathising
468
00:27:23,070 --> 00:27:25,270
with this girl -
she's the victim in all this.
469
00:27:26,270 --> 00:27:32,110
How? A terrified schoolgirl, groomed
and abused by her stepfather.
470
00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:35,670
With her mother's blood splattered
across her school jumper. So?
471
00:27:35,710 --> 00:27:39,470
So it suggests she was there.
Her jumper was there.
472
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:42,430
And she did say she got changed
before she went to her dad's.
473
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:44,790
He's dressing up as a schoolgirl too
now, is he?
474
00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:48,390
He must have helped her. There isn't
enough evidence to support that.
475
00:27:48,430 --> 00:27:50,710
I won't enjoy putting away
a 16-year-old girl,
476
00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:54,310
but if the jury decide she's guilty
then we'll have done our job properly.
477
00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:57,190
Ronnie's been in touch -
Sean Harte is ready to talk.
478
00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:59,750
He's admitting to assisting,
but not murder.
479
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:04,230
Holly's very immature for her age.
480
00:28:06,670 --> 00:28:10,590
Like I told you before, she has this
insane schoolgirl crush.
481
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:13,430
He's selling her out.
482
00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:16,350
I thought if I just ignored it,
it would go away.
483
00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:18,390
But she was getting out of control.
484
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:21,230
I tried to let her down gently.
485
00:28:21,270 --> 00:28:24,630
But? She took the rejection hard,
screaming at me,
486
00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:28,910
threatening to tell Charlotte
I'd abused her. She was so angry.
487
00:28:31,550 --> 00:28:33,830
I had no choice but to tell
Charlotte myself,
488
00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:36,350
after I left the site,
while Holly was still out.
489
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:41,030
OK. And how did Charlotte react?
Well, she was devastated.
490
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:45,230
Then Holly came home early
in the middle of it,
491
00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:47,470
and things really kicked off.
492
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:50,070
Screaming at each other.
493
00:28:50,110 --> 00:28:53,190
All sorts being said,
about the ex and that.
494
00:28:53,230 --> 00:28:55,870
I thought it's best just to get out.
495
00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:58,430
So you left?
I had to.
496
00:29:00,110 --> 00:29:02,110
I went back to work.
497
00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:05,110
I couldn't face going home,
so I went on to the pub after
498
00:29:05,150 --> 00:29:07,270
to drown my sorrows.
When I got back...
499
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:13,630
Sorry.
500
00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:15,910
It's OK. Take your time.
501
00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:21,070
So, you got back home?
What happened?
502
00:29:25,270 --> 00:29:27,750
Holly was in the room, sobbing.
503
00:29:30,550 --> 00:29:32,550
I don't think she meant to kill her.
504
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:38,590
You said, whilst this fight
was happening at the house,
505
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:42,990
you were moonlighting on another job
at 88 Welford Road. Yeah?
506
00:29:43,030 --> 00:29:45,550
That's right.
Any witnesses?
507
00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:56,030
There was someone there who can
prove I'm telling you the truth.
508
00:29:59,550 --> 00:30:03,470
I didn't want to drag her into it.
Her?
509
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:08,230
Mr Harte?
510
00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:15,870
Jess.
511
00:30:16,830 --> 00:30:18,870
I think he's hanging Holly out
to dry.
512
00:30:18,910 --> 00:30:21,430
But her best friend's providing
an alibi for him.
513
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:25,910
Putting Jess on the stand will show
it's not in Sean's character to do something like this.
514
00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:28,990
Whereas Holly had a turbulent
relationship with her mother,
515
00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:32,470
no alibi to speak of, and forensic
evidence pointing directly to her.
516
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:35,830
I'm not saying I like it, Ronnie,
but we proceed with charging him
517
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:38,510
with assisting an offender,
and Holly with murder.
518
00:30:40,025 --> 00:30:43,545
Would you say that your friend had
a good relationship with her mother?
519
00:30:44,987 --> 00:30:47,267
Yeah. I guess.
520
00:30:48,787 --> 00:30:51,587
I mean, they argued sometimes,
like anyone does.
521
00:30:51,627 --> 00:30:54,147
Do you know what these arguments
were about?
522
00:30:54,187 --> 00:30:56,747
She'd get pretty angry with how
controlling she was.
523
00:30:56,787 --> 00:30:58,987
She was checking her phone
and stuff.
524
00:30:59,587 --> 00:31:02,467
She was obsessed with knowing
if she had a boyfriend.
525
00:31:02,507 --> 00:31:04,507
Did Holly have a boyfriend?
526
00:31:05,307 --> 00:31:07,307
Not that I know of, no.
527
00:31:07,427 --> 00:31:11,067
What was the relationship between
Holly and Mr Harte like?
528
00:31:14,347 --> 00:31:16,387
Good, as far as I knew.
529
00:31:17,827 --> 00:31:19,827
Until all this happened.
530
00:31:20,467 --> 00:31:25,147
On the night Charlotte Leigh died,
what did you do after the concert at school?
531
00:31:28,627 --> 00:31:30,627
I...um...
532
00:31:33,467 --> 00:31:35,827
I went to see Sean.
533
00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:38,667
Why was that?
534
00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:44,667
Ms Hays? Why did you meet
with Mr Harte that evening?
535
00:31:47,587 --> 00:31:50,147
It was about my mum and dad.
536
00:31:50,187 --> 00:31:52,187
In what way?
537
00:31:53,227 --> 00:31:59,227
Well... since they separated
I just...
538
00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:04,107
missed having my dad around.
539
00:32:04,147 --> 00:32:07,867
Was there a reason you didn't mention
this to the police earlier?
540
00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:11,867
I didn't want my mum to know.
541
00:32:13,027 --> 00:32:15,667
Would you say you were a father
figure to Holly?
542
00:32:15,707 --> 00:32:17,667
I loved her like she was
my own daughter,
543
00:32:17,707 --> 00:32:19,547
since her own father left her.
544
00:32:19,587 --> 00:32:23,027
You say she became fixated.
How did this manifest itself?
545
00:32:23,067 --> 00:32:27,987
It started with love notes
and that, you know?
546
00:32:28,547 --> 00:32:30,547
Left in my jacket pocket.
547
00:32:31,387 --> 00:32:36,587
I laughed it off. I thought it was a
schoolgirl crush thing, it'd pass.
548
00:32:36,627 --> 00:32:39,587
And did it pass?
No, it got worse.
549
00:32:40,507 --> 00:32:44,267
On the evening your wife was killed,
you told her about Holly's behaviour?
550
00:32:44,307 --> 00:32:47,467
Yeah, I had to.
And how did she react?
551
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:50,387
Well, she was upset,
as you might imagine.
552
00:32:50,907 --> 00:32:53,467
Then Holly arrived home.
553
00:32:55,267 --> 00:32:57,267
It just exploded.
554
00:32:57,307 --> 00:32:59,307
What happened then?
555
00:32:59,587 --> 00:33:01,947
Well, with the two of them screaming
at each other,
556
00:33:01,987 --> 00:33:03,707
I had to get out of there.
557
00:33:03,747 --> 00:33:06,587
I thought telling Charlotte would
help resolve it.
558
00:33:09,427 --> 00:33:11,947
I never imagined it would end
in such tragedy.
559
00:33:11,987 --> 00:33:15,627
And when you arrived home later
that evening, where was your wife?
560
00:33:17,707 --> 00:33:21,707
I found Charlotte
lying on the kitchen floor.
561
00:33:23,307 --> 00:33:25,307
You OK?
562
00:33:25,347 --> 00:33:27,347
And where was Holly?
563
00:33:27,947 --> 00:33:31,227
I found her in her room.
She was shaking.
564
00:33:31,867 --> 00:33:34,947
What did you say to her?
I asked what had happened.
565
00:33:36,067 --> 00:33:39,907
She just kept saying 'I didn't mean
to, I didn't mean to' over and over.
566
00:33:39,947 --> 00:33:41,947
No! No!
I'm sorry.
567
00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:44,987
Direct your answers to the jury
please, Mr Harte.
568
00:33:50,467 --> 00:33:52,627
She said they fought.
569
00:33:53,627 --> 00:33:57,267
She pushed her mother,
she fell back, hit her head.
570
00:33:58,027 --> 00:34:00,547
Why didn't you call 999?
I tried to.
571
00:34:01,587 --> 00:34:03,587
Holly started screaming at me.
572
00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:06,187
She said if I didn't help her
she'd say I did it.
573
00:34:06,227 --> 00:34:09,267
Did you help dispose of the body
in the River Thames
574
00:34:09,307 --> 00:34:11,547
and try to make it look like suicide?
575
00:34:13,547 --> 00:34:16,347
Yes, I did.
576
00:34:17,587 --> 00:34:21,787
I panicked.
I thought all this was my fault.
577
00:34:22,107 --> 00:34:24,107
If I hadn't said anything...
578
00:34:30,467 --> 00:34:32,467
That is all.
579
00:34:32,507 --> 00:34:34,507
Thank you, Mr Harte.
580
00:34:38,627 --> 00:34:40,627
It started with little things.
581
00:34:40,907 --> 00:34:45,507
He'd sit too close to me
on the sofa,
582
00:34:45,547 --> 00:34:50,467
or walk in when I was getting
changed, accidentally.
583
00:34:53,147 --> 00:34:57,667
Then he started giving what he
called his daddy bear cuddles.
584
00:34:58,507 --> 00:35:00,867
Even when I told him I felt
uncomfortable, he...
585
00:35:02,067 --> 00:35:04,867
he'd always find a way
to get me on my own.
586
00:35:04,907 --> 00:35:07,907
And why didn't you tell anyone?
I don't know.
587
00:35:07,947 --> 00:35:10,267
I guess I just thought
if I ignored it,
588
00:35:10,307 --> 00:35:12,627
he'd get bored, and leave me alone.
589
00:35:13,667 --> 00:35:15,667
And did he?
590
00:35:17,627 --> 00:35:19,627
No.
591
00:35:21,307 --> 00:35:26,107
He tried to give me money, he said I
should go and buy some underwear
592
00:35:26,147 --> 00:35:31,107
that my mum wouldn't approve of,
now that I was getting all grown up.
593
00:35:33,067 --> 00:35:35,307
He kept making jokes about me
turning 16.
594
00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:37,867
It made me feel sick.
595
00:35:38,947 --> 00:35:44,107
When you rejected Mr Harte,
what was his response?
596
00:35:45,787 --> 00:35:47,787
Angry.
597
00:35:48,427 --> 00:35:51,387
He said that if I didn't want to be
his special girl,
598
00:35:51,427 --> 00:35:53,547
then he'd find someone who did.
599
00:36:08,987 --> 00:36:12,667
On the night in question, you were
performing in a school concert,
600
00:36:12,707 --> 00:36:14,787
while your mother was working late?
601
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,507
Yeah.
602
00:36:17,547 --> 00:36:19,707
I had to leave early.
603
00:36:20,387 --> 00:36:22,387
Where did you go?
604
00:36:22,427 --> 00:36:25,627
I went home to get changed.
605
00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:30,387
I didn't want to stay there,
so I went over to my dad's.
606
00:36:30,427 --> 00:36:33,027
I forgot he was away on business,
607
00:36:33,067 --> 00:36:36,987
so I just sat in his flat,
until I could face going home.
608
00:36:39,227 --> 00:36:41,587
And what happened
when you arrived home?
609
00:36:41,627 --> 00:36:43,627
It was quiet.
610
00:36:44,187 --> 00:36:46,627
The lights were on,
so I assumed mum was back.
611
00:36:48,107 --> 00:36:51,507
I didn't want to see anyone,
so I just went straight upstairs.
612
00:36:51,547 --> 00:36:54,147
When did you hear that your mother
was missing?
613
00:36:57,507 --> 00:37:01,347
When the police arrived.
About 1.00 I think.
614
00:37:02,587 --> 00:37:04,587
Sean woke me and told me.
615
00:37:09,867 --> 00:37:14,747
I keep thinking that...
I'm just going to wake up.
616
00:37:18,347 --> 00:37:21,827
Mum will be there
and she'll give me a hug,
617
00:37:21,867 --> 00:37:25,067
and tell me it's gonna be OK,
618
00:37:25,107 --> 00:37:29,867
and all this will be over.
Just like a nightmare.
619
00:37:33,507 --> 00:37:36,787
Why is he doing this?
I don't understand.
620
00:37:50,547 --> 00:37:52,547
Everything all right?
621
00:37:56,147 --> 00:37:58,147
Signal's rubbish here, eh?
622
00:38:00,387 --> 00:38:03,827
Must be hard for you, Jess,
seeing what this is doing to Holly,
623
00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:05,907
you being such good friends.
624
00:38:08,707 --> 00:38:10,707
Yeah.
Yeah.
625
00:38:11,107 --> 00:38:13,827
Harder for her of course.
Losing her mum,
626
00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:17,267
and now looking like she's going
to prison for it.
627
00:38:18,347 --> 00:38:22,707
Prison? Well, Young Offender's
Institution for the first year.
628
00:38:22,747 --> 00:38:25,467
Bit of solitary.
Not very nice, I have to admit.
629
00:38:25,507 --> 00:38:27,507
Nasty.
630
00:38:27,547 --> 00:38:31,187
But on her 18th birthday, she'll get
to go to an adult prison, so...
631
00:38:32,347 --> 00:38:35,747
But... she's gonna get off,
isn't she?
632
00:38:36,827 --> 00:38:38,827
Not unless you can help?
633
00:38:43,547 --> 00:38:46,667
See this is very serious, Jess.
You know that, don't you?
634
00:38:48,507 --> 00:38:51,107
The rest of your friend's life
is at stake here.
635
00:38:51,147 --> 00:38:55,627
So if there's anything else you can
remember about that night, anything at all.
636
00:38:57,707 --> 00:38:59,707
I don't know what you mean.
637
00:39:01,427 --> 00:39:03,427
I think you do.
638
00:39:04,867 --> 00:39:06,867
I saw your reaction in the court.
639
00:39:09,307 --> 00:39:12,147
You know that Holly is telling
the truth, don't you?
640
00:39:13,787 --> 00:39:17,907
Because you've heard those lines
from Sean yourself before, haven't you?
641
00:39:19,867 --> 00:39:22,147
Jess, whatever he's promised you,
642
00:39:22,187 --> 00:39:24,987
you've now seen what he's really
capable of.
643
00:39:26,827 --> 00:39:28,827
You could be next.
644
00:39:33,907 --> 00:39:35,907
It wasn't Holly's fault.
645
00:39:38,347 --> 00:39:42,387
In your earlier evidence,
you said that you phoned Sean Harte,
646
00:39:42,427 --> 00:39:45,307
and then went to meet him
at his place of work.
647
00:39:45,347 --> 00:39:48,747
You wanted to talk over your parents'
recent divorce.
648
00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:50,587
Is that correct?
649
00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:54,027
Partly.
Which part?
650
00:39:55,067 --> 00:40:00,387
Well, I did call Sean,
but he told me to go to the house.
651
00:40:02,107 --> 00:40:06,947
He said Charlotte was out
and we could be alone.
652
00:40:07,827 --> 00:40:09,827
Not to talk about your parents?
653
00:40:12,547 --> 00:40:14,547
No.
654
00:40:17,467 --> 00:40:19,467
No, we'd...
655
00:40:23,147 --> 00:40:25,147
We'd been seeing each other.
656
00:40:26,867 --> 00:40:28,867
Seeing?
657
00:40:33,987 --> 00:40:35,987
Sleeping together.
658
00:40:37,307 --> 00:40:42,427
So you went to the Leigh home that
evening, and had sex with Sean Harte?
659
00:40:43,787 --> 00:40:45,787
Yes.
660
00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:49,267
But it wasn't how you make it sound.
661
00:40:49,907 --> 00:40:51,907
How do I make it sound?
Sort of...
662
00:40:53,867 --> 00:40:55,867
dirty.
663
00:40:56,827 --> 00:40:58,827
It wasn't like that.
664
00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:07,707
Sean was different.
He was kind and gentle.
665
00:41:07,747 --> 00:41:12,947
He... he called me his special girl.
666
00:41:19,147 --> 00:41:21,147
But it all went wrong.
667
00:41:25,187 --> 00:41:28,827
Mrs Leigh came home and...
668
00:41:28,867 --> 00:41:30,867
and we were in the kitchen...
669
00:41:35,307 --> 00:41:39,467
you know. She walked in on you
having sex in the kitchen?
670
00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:45,067
She went mental.
671
00:41:46,747 --> 00:41:50,467
Started screaming,
calling him names.
672
00:41:53,787 --> 00:41:57,107
She said she was going
to call the police,
673
00:41:57,147 --> 00:42:00,147
and that Sean would go to prison.
674
00:42:05,667 --> 00:42:09,307
How did he react to that?
He tried to calm her down.
675
00:42:11,867 --> 00:42:17,827
But she started hitting him,
and she was just screaming so loud.
676
00:42:25,107 --> 00:42:27,107
And then he punched her.
677
00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:31,947
He just threw her.
678
00:42:33,787 --> 00:42:35,787
She cracked her head, hard.
679
00:42:40,427 --> 00:42:42,427
It made a horrible sound.
680
00:42:44,227 --> 00:42:46,227
Then she was just lying there.
681
00:42:47,467 --> 00:42:49,467
She wasn't moving.
682
00:42:50,907 --> 00:42:54,427
What did Mr Harte do?
Did he call an ambulance?
683
00:42:55,267 --> 00:42:57,267
No.
684
00:43:01,587 --> 00:43:04,307
No, he told me to shut up
because I was crying.
685
00:43:07,907 --> 00:43:09,907
He er...
686
00:43:10,667 --> 00:43:15,787
He got this big sheet... from his
van.
687
00:43:18,947 --> 00:43:20,947
He wrapped her up in it.
688
00:43:23,827 --> 00:43:27,427
He said he was gonna make it look
like she did it herself.
689
00:43:30,467 --> 00:43:32,867
That she'd tried it before, he said.
690
00:43:36,827 --> 00:43:38,827
He even used one of Holly's
school jumpers
691
00:43:38,867 --> 00:43:40,627
to clear up some of the blood.
692
00:43:42,507 --> 00:43:44,507
Why didn't you call the police?
693
00:43:46,387 --> 00:43:51,507
He said if anyone found out,
we'd both go to prison.
694
00:43:55,707 --> 00:43:57,707
That we wouldn't be together.
695
00:44:00,827 --> 00:44:03,707
He said if I told anyone
I'd never see him again.
696
00:44:08,747 --> 00:44:10,747
I couldn't bear that.
697
00:44:16,227 --> 00:44:18,227
It wasn't meant to get this far.
698
00:44:21,627 --> 00:44:23,627
It wasn't meant to be Holly.
699
00:44:26,747 --> 00:44:28,947
No-one would believe
she could do that.
700
00:44:34,547 --> 00:44:37,867
Sean Harte's been taken into custody,
charged with murder.
701
00:44:37,907 --> 00:44:41,627
Along with Jess Hays.
Where's Holly?
702
00:44:43,867 --> 00:44:45,867
She's free to go.
703
00:44:47,267 --> 00:44:51,747
Free? She's lost everything
she ever cared about.
704
00:44:53,707 --> 00:44:57,627
Her mother did everything she could
to protect that child from danger,
705
00:44:57,667 --> 00:44:59,667
then let it into her own home.
706
00:45:08,858 --> 00:45:41,568
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