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In the criminal justice system
the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups.
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The police who investigate crime
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and the crown prosecutors
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Excuse me, what are you doing?
Are you Mrs Lerner?
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No. I work for Mrs Lerner. I'm not
fussed so long as you let me in.
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She wants broadband upstairs.
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Fetch.
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Did you ring the bell?
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Do you know, it never occurred to me.
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Wipe your feet.
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Nice gaff.
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It was not before.
Fitted carpets, easy to clean.
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Much better.
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Uh...
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They want to put a computer in the
office
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and one in the guest bedroom.
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Job spec said only one extra outlet.
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Haven't they got a wireless router?
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You have to talk to her. Mrs Lerner!
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The man from the broadband is here!
(ALARM CLOCK BEEPS CONTINUOUSLY)
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Mrs Lerner!
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Hello!
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Mrs Lerner!
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Victims are Elaine and David Lerner.
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The cleaner found them.
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Right. Who's the young Elvis?
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He came to install broadband.
He was waiting outside.
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Point of entry?
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Entry and exit,
broken window in the kitchen.
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With a blood trail leading
back there from the bedroom.
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Right. Have we got anything missing,
do you know?
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The cleaner is doing an inventory
and the daughter is on her way.
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She's driving down from Leeds.
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What a homecoming.
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A dozen stab wounds between them
and still counting.
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At a rough guess, I'd say they've
been dead not more than 48 hours.
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The wife is still tucked in.
Didn't actually know what hit her.
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The husband not so lucky.
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Defensive stab wounds on both hands.
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Through
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and...through.
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So, what do you think? Husband wakes
up, see's his wife being attacked,
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and tries to fight back.
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"David and Elaine.
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Here's to the next 20 years."
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Or not, as it turns out.
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Law and Order UK
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Season 5, Episode 5
"Intent"
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Sync and corrected by
www.addic7ed.com
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Our murder weapon is a chisel taken
from a tool bag on the landing.
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So he entered the house unarmed?
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Maybe he thought no-one was home.
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Heard a noise and grabbed the first
thing that came to hand.
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Why head upstairs?
They didn't interrupt him.
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They were still in bed.
Was anything taken?
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Apparently not. Jewellery, cash,
electrics all still present.
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If you went there to kill them,
why go unarmed?
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And if it's a burglary,
why leave empty-handed?
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He had just butchered two people.
Maybe he wasn't thinking straight.
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He was thinking straight enough
to have a wash before he went.
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And he wiped the chisel before he
dropped it.
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So no prints, then.
Not on the murder weapon, guv,
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but elsewhere we're spoiled for
choice.
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We've got 38 sets of unknown prints.
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Popular couple.
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They were renovating the house,
it was crawling with workmen.
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But this is what
we're concentrating on.
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It's a partial thumb print on the
headboard. Mrs Lerner's blood.
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It's a good match to another partial
found near the broken window.
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Except it's not on the system.
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Print everyone who's worked on that
house. Any word from the daughter?
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We're meeting her at the house.
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I'd like to talk to forensics
regarding the MO.
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Although the prints haven't turned up
on the system,
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anything this brutal might ring
bells. Get to it.
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Ta.
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What?
I get the grieving daughter.
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And you go down the lab
to have a cup of tea with Eleanor?
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Andy, my boy, talk about delegation,
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it's an art.
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It's a joke.
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Female vic definitely went first.
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The angle of the wound suggests
he was on the bed straddling her.
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So, what he pinned her down?
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Pretty much. Not that he needed to.
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The chisel went in seven times
and never once missed the target.
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He hit the heart, stomach,
liver and kidneys.
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She probably never
woke up enough to move.
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He wasn't messing around then?
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Oh, no.
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He wanted her dead.
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I'd say it was personal.
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See this spatter pattern here?
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To get cast off like this,
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the weapon has to be moving hard and
fast.
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This guy was really angry.
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And the husband?
Same thing.
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Another six hits, no hesitations.
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I reckon they were dead after the
first couple of wounds.
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Can you think of a reason
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why anyone would want
to harm your parents?
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No.
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They are lovely people.
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Everyone loves them.
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Maybe they were having financial
troubles?
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Doing up a place like this
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can spiral out of control.
Maybe they needed some cash.
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Tried to borrow some from someone?
No.
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My dad budgets for everything.
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Right down to the last penny.
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This was their dream home.
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They wanted to get it exactly right.
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It was for their retirement.
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When they finally sold the agency.
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They were in business together?
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Sleepytime Sitters.
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It's a baby-sitting agency.
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Might there be
somebody with a grudge?
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Maybe an employee
that you had to let go?
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David always said
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treat people fairly
and you'll see the best of them.
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A lot of our ladies have been with
us for years.
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You've never had to sack anybody?
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If someone
really wasn't working out,
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Elaine had such a gentle way of
dealing with it.
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It was like she was helping them
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find something they were better
suited to.
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Bob Mitchell will tell you
a different story.
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Who is Bob Mitchell?
The partner in the early days.
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Thought he was a real go-getter.
And that wasn't their way?
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Definitely not.
They dissolved the partnership.
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Six months after he was ditched
by the Lerners,
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Mitchell declared himself bankrupt.
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Since then it looks like he's
lurched
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from one failed business to the
next. This is his latest.
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While his former partners are making
a fortune?
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That could make a man bitter.
Did you get anything from Ellie?
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In her opinion, it was nasty
and quite possibly personal.
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I realised I was in the wrong sector
and refocused my goals.
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Haven't looked back.
So really they did you a favour?
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Yes, actually.
Where were you Saturday evening?
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Around midnight?
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About 150 miles away.
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I was attending an entrepreneurial
weekend in Stoke.
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Can any of your fellow entrepreneurs
confirm that?
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I wasn't sharing a room
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but they saw me leave the bar.
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Mitchell checks out.
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Several guests remember him being
drunk and annoying around 11:30.
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We have no other suspects?
According to everyone,
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the Lerners are saints.
Not an enemy in the world.
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What about the bloody thumb print?
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We've printed 26 of the workers, guv,
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but not one of them even comes close.
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So if everyone who knew them loved
them, what are we left with?
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An aborted burglary?
Or...random nutter.
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Either way... Let me guess,
we go back to the beginning,
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and see if we missed anything?
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Elaine is asleep
on the right-hand side,
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David asleep on the left.
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Our man comes in,
doesn't touch anything.
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Makes his way to
the right-hand side of the bed.
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He braces himself against the
headboard
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and then stabs her multiple times.
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The partial print we have
is off his right thumb.
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Fine. Then we've narrowed it down
to a left-handed killer.
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But then David wakes up,
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tries to stop him, they fight,
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he loses,
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and then he falls backwards over
Elaine's body.
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So now we have two dead bodies.
Where does he go? What does he do?
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He doesn't touch anything.
He doesn't steal anything.
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No, instead, he goes downstairs
and he has a wash.
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In the kitchen sink.
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Do you need me to move?
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No, no, you're fine, don't worry.
We won't be much longer.
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Although you might prefer not to
listen to this. That's OK.
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So he cleans up in the sink.
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And then he goes out
the way he came in.
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Why not just go through the door?
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It's always double locked.
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He wouldn't know that.
Unless he tried it.
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But he didn't.
No prints inside or out
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and he wasn't wearing gloves.
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Do you have the keys to the door,
please, Elizabeth?
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The fence isn't very high.
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But why didn't he try the door
before the window?
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JAE Security Services.
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Elizabeth...
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Elizabeth, sorry.
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There used to be another door here,
yeah?
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Yeah.
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A big metal security door.
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My parents took it out
when they did the kitchen.
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The house was like Fort Knox.
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Right.
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And do you know the name of
the people that lived here before?
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A woman called Camilla Mallon.
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She was in the papers a couple of
years ago
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after some big hedge fund collapsed.
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Turned out it had all been a scam.
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Her partners were all done for fraud
but she got off.
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A lot of people weren't very happy.
That's why she had to move.
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Maybe she received some threats.
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That's what my mum said.
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That's why they got
such a good price.
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Oh, my god.
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Yeah.
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Maybe your parents weren't the
intended victims.
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Did she leave a forwarding address?
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The threats came from investors who
lost money.
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They were sent to the office,
never my home.
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The police didn't think
I was in any real danger.
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But it seemed sensible to move
somewhere with more security.
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Some people weren't too pleased
that you got off?
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If it wasn't enough that I lost my
marriage, my business
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and nearly took the fall for a fraud
I knew nothing about, then no,
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apparently not.
What about your partners?
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They can't have been pleased when
you gave evidence against them?
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They were going down with or without
my evidence.
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Anyway, they are both
still in prison.
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You're not suggesting
they hired some kind of hitman?
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What would be the point?
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Mallon got off on a technicality.
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Did a deal with the FSA,
ratted out her partners.
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That must have made you angry?
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They conned me out of nearly
a quarter of a million pounds.
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How do you think I felt? Angry
enough to write a threatening letter.
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I'd had a few whiskies too many.
Wanted to let off steam.
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At the end of the day,
she was small fry.
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It was the other two who screwed me
over and they're behind bars.
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Justice was done. And luckily
I can afford to lose a few quid.
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That is fortunate.
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Our whole life savings gone
just like that.
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First risk I ever took in my life.
And the last.
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Camilla Mallon gets off scot free.
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She'll get what's coming to her.
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Yeah?
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I hear you created quite a scene
outside the court.
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Sounded like you were ready to get
violent. What good would that do?
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No. We're taking out a civil action
against all three of them.
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Me and about 50 other investors.
I'll tell you something for nothing.
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That Mallon woman,
real piece of work. In what way?
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Husband stands by her right through
the trial, then she gets off,
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dumps him and takes him to the
cleaners in the divorce.
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No-one screwed anyone over.
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We just both took out
what we put in.
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00:13:00,895 --> 00:13:03,005
Which wasn't a lot
in my case, it's true.
251
00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,080
University lecturers
don't tend to rake in the cash.
252
00:13:06,115 --> 00:13:08,520
But, hey,
we're not in it for the money.
253
00:13:08,555 --> 00:13:10,565
Much like police officers.
254
00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,520
You're sure it was Camilla this
person meant to kill?
255
00:13:13,555 --> 00:13:15,565
It's a definite possibility, yeah.
256
00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,725
God. I just can't
get my head round it.
257
00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,800
It was pretty frightening
when people made threats.
258
00:13:20,835 --> 00:13:23,085
But neither of us
really believed them.
259
00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,160
So you and your wife,
you separated after the trial?
260
00:13:26,195 --> 00:13:29,137
And you both moved out of the house?
Yeah, that's right.
261
00:13:29,172 --> 00:13:32,080
There was no bad feeling?
No row about who got what?
262
00:13:32,115 --> 00:13:34,040
No, nothing like that, why?
263
00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,125
You're kidding?
264
00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,165
You think I'm a suspect?
265
00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,245
These are just routine questions.
266
00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,920
I was married to Camilla for five
years. I do know where she lives.
267
00:13:44,955 --> 00:13:47,485
And I certainly know
what she looks like.
268
00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,640
I'm hardly going to mix her up
with someone else, am I?
269
00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:56,600
We spoke to about a dozen investors
270
00:13:56,635 --> 00:13:58,645
who made explicit threats.
271
00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:00,885
But so far none of them
really jump out.
272
00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,560
It's gonna take months
to track down the rest.
273
00:14:03,595 --> 00:14:05,845
The ex-husband couldn't narrow it?
No.
274
00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,600
He wasn't interested in his wife's
business. Typical healthy marriage.
275
00:14:09,635 --> 00:14:13,317
This is interesting. Half an hour
before the Lerners were killed,
276
00:14:13,352 --> 00:14:17,000
a Ford Focus has an encounter
with a lamp post two streets away.
277
00:14:17,035 --> 00:14:19,937
The driver of the vehicle
abandons it. Thank you.
278
00:14:19,972 --> 00:14:22,840
And the vehicle is towed away
the following morning.
279
00:14:22,875 --> 00:14:24,885
And this is relevant how?
280
00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,440
Well, it's relevant because
said Ford Focus
281
00:14:27,475 --> 00:14:30,760
is registered to a Mr Lucas Boyd.
282
00:14:30,795 --> 00:14:32,720
Our lady banker's ex.
283
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,760
Bet he didn't mention that, did he?
284
00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,120
I'm sorry. I know I should have
told you about the crash.
285
00:14:42,155 --> 00:14:44,080
So why didn't you?
286
00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,205
I didn't think it was relevant.
287
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,480
And, well, to be honest,
I'd had a few drinks.
288
00:14:50,515 --> 00:14:52,520
But I just took the corner too fast.
289
00:14:52,555 --> 00:14:54,565
No-one else was involved.
290
00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,160
This isn't about the drink driving,
Mr Boyd.
291
00:14:57,195 --> 00:14:59,160
Just tell us what happened.
Sure.
292
00:14:59,195 --> 00:15:01,205
Um...
293
00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,840
I met up with a few colleagues in a
bar in Putney.
294
00:15:03,875 --> 00:15:06,765
And...I was driving home with Josh.
295
00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,640
Josh Shelton.
He teaches sports science.
296
00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,765
And...
297
00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,800
it turns out
we should have got a cab.
298
00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,480
So you were a five-minute walk
from your old house?
299
00:15:19,515 --> 00:15:21,525
I suppose so.
300
00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,400
It's a bit odd that you were in the
same area the same night.
301
00:15:24,435 --> 00:15:27,325
Not really. I live in Colliers Wood
just up the road.
302
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,160
So after the crash, Josh and yourself
just headed home, yeah? Yeah.
303
00:15:31,195 --> 00:15:33,205
Well, Josh took a cab to his. I...
304
00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,320
I felt I needed some air,
so I walked.
305
00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,800
Lucas said he drove you home, Josh.
306
00:15:39,835 --> 00:15:41,845
I was wasted.
307
00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,000
I didn't realise how far gone
Lucas was until we got in the car.
308
00:15:45,035 --> 00:15:47,880
Two pint is his limit,
he's the designated driver.
309
00:15:47,915 --> 00:15:49,925
But Saturday was different.
310
00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,005
He was a man on a mission.
About time, too.
311
00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,960
How come? The bloke's been divorced
almost 18 months.
312
00:15:55,995 --> 00:15:58,880
We kept telling him to relax a bit,
have some fun.
313
00:15:58,915 --> 00:16:00,925
Tell me about the accident.
314
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,485
Not much to tell.
Lucas was driving too fast.
315
00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,560
Lost control round a bend,
wrapped us round a lamp post.
316
00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,400
I banged my shoulder, but nothing
too serious. What about Lucas?
317
00:16:11,435 --> 00:16:14,120
He smacked his head
against the steering wheel.
318
00:16:14,155 --> 00:16:16,245
Might even have knocked himself out.
319
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,680
But he came round after a few
minutes and said he'd walk it off.
320
00:16:19,715 --> 00:16:22,325
Beer. Natural anaesthetic.
321
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,560
The mate backs up Lucas's story
about the crash.
322
00:16:25,595 --> 00:16:27,285
But he couldn't be sure
323
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,840
which direction he headed off in
afterwards.
324
00:16:29,875 --> 00:16:32,377
Back in the days when I was drinking,
325
00:16:32,412 --> 00:16:34,886
I once went on a bender for three
days.
326
00:16:34,921 --> 00:16:37,200
Aside from the train ticket to Hull,
327
00:16:37,235 --> 00:16:39,480
and a receipt for two hedge trimmers,
328
00:16:39,515 --> 00:16:41,557
it's still a complete blank.
329
00:16:41,592 --> 00:16:43,565
Anyway, once I'd staggered home,
330
00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,645
it took me about half an hour to
realise
331
00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,920
I was standing at the wrong house.
I lived two doors down.
332
00:16:48,955 --> 00:16:51,560
You think Lucas went to
his old house by mistake?
333
00:16:51,595 --> 00:16:53,845
I don't know but he was
paralytic drunk,
334
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,500
he'd had a bang on the head,
it is a possibility.
335
00:16:56,535 --> 00:16:59,085
But he was used to there being a
security door
336
00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,660
so maybe that made him go through a
window. Why kill the Lerners?
337
00:17:02,695 --> 00:17:06,200
If he was still drunk enough
to think he lived in that house...
338
00:17:06,235 --> 00:17:09,400
Maybe it wasn't such an amicable
divorce after all.
339
00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,325
Obviously I can't go into details,
340
00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:17,085
but the fact is he never said
a bad word about her.
341
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:20,840
In my experience, divorce normally
brings out the worst in people.
342
00:17:20,875 --> 00:17:22,885
Trust me, it does.
343
00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,360
But Lucas, Mr Boyd,
he couldn't have been nicer.
344
00:17:26,395 --> 00:17:28,965
That must have made your job
a lot easier.
345
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,885
To be honest, it was
a bit frustrating. Why's that?
346
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,200
They'd been married five years,
he was entitled to half the house.
347
00:17:36,235 --> 00:17:38,325
But he didn't want
to fight her for it.
348
00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,885
Right. And have you had
any more dealings with him?
349
00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,840
Yeah, when he was buying his flat,
he asked me to do the conveyancing.
350
00:17:45,875 --> 00:17:48,957
But I only do family law
so I passed him on to a colleague.
351
00:17:48,992 --> 00:17:52,005
When was the last time
you spoke to him? A few days ago.
352
00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,480
He'd read about those people getting
killed in his old house,
353
00:17:55,515 --> 00:17:58,560
said he'd been having these vivid
nightmares about it.
354
00:17:58,595 --> 00:18:01,125
When you say "vivid nightmares",
355
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,320
he was dreaming that he'd been
murdered in his old house?
356
00:18:04,355 --> 00:18:08,000
No. In the dreams he isn't the one
who gets killed.
357
00:18:08,035 --> 00:18:09,960
He's the killer.
358
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,445
I keep telling you I was drunk.
359
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,200
I don't remember anything after the
crash.
360
00:18:16,235 --> 00:18:18,920
You had a blackout?
I don't know. I guess.
361
00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,000
Just take a look at the photographs
for me, please, Lucas, if you will.
362
00:18:24,035 --> 00:18:27,297
Why would I do that to those people?
I didn't even know them.
363
00:18:27,332 --> 00:18:30,560
I'm not saying that you went there
intending to kill them.
364
00:18:30,595 --> 00:18:33,125
Maybe it was a mistake.
What kind of mistake?
365
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,280
I know how it can be.
You have a little too much to drink.
366
00:18:36,315 --> 00:18:38,960
You do things you regret.
I'm not an alcoholic.
367
00:18:38,995 --> 00:18:40,920
This was a one-off.
368
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,240
Don't you think I'd remember
doing something like that?
369
00:18:45,275 --> 00:18:47,200
Not necessarily.
370
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,760
This is crazy. I didn't do this.
371
00:18:54,795 --> 00:18:56,765
I couldn't.
372
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,080
OK, what about the next morning,
then?
373
00:18:59,115 --> 00:19:01,325
Lucas, you had blood on your clothes,
yes?
374
00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:05,160
Well, yes, I cut my head in the
accident. Of course there was blood.
375
00:19:05,195 --> 00:19:08,240
Maybe there was more blood
than there should have been.
376
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,565
No.
377
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,685
No, there wasn't.
378
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,440
What did you do with the clothes?
I washed them.
379
00:19:16,475 --> 00:19:19,160
I don't know anything about how
these people died.
380
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,960
OK.
381
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,720
So, what is it that you see
in your dreams?
382
00:19:30,755 --> 00:19:32,680
In my dreams?
Yeah.
383
00:19:32,715 --> 00:19:34,765
You're joking?
384
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,120
Well, you have dreamed about
killing them, haven't you?
385
00:19:38,155 --> 00:19:41,440
So you tell me in your dream
how do you get into the house?
386
00:19:41,475 --> 00:19:43,525
You don't have a key.
387
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,520
What do you do?
Do you look for a spare? Or...
388
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,600
..try and get in through a window?
389
00:19:49,635 --> 00:19:52,317
You know what I think, Lucas?
390
00:19:52,352 --> 00:19:55,000
I think you started to walk home.
391
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,960
Without realising,
you ended up at your old house.
392
00:19:58,995 --> 00:20:00,977
I think he could be on the verge.
393
00:20:01,012 --> 00:20:02,960
Then this should push him over.
394
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,045
Prints a match.
395
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,240
You certainly don't notice
that your old security door
396
00:20:09,275 --> 00:20:11,245
has been taken away.
397
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,320
How would I know that?
I haven't been there since we moved.
398
00:20:14,355 --> 00:20:16,365
That's just it.
399
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,360
That's why we went, isn't it?
400
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,960
He's our killer.
401
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,720
And he doesn't
even remember doing it.
402
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,920
Given the seriousness of the crime
and frenzied nature of the attack,
403
00:20:43,955 --> 00:20:45,965
we apply for a remand into custody.
404
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,040
My Lord, Mr Boyd
has no history of violent behaviour.
405
00:20:49,075 --> 00:20:51,597
He is a well-respected university
lecturer
406
00:20:51,632 --> 00:20:54,120
with strong ties to the local
community.
407
00:20:54,155 --> 00:20:56,165
But with no immediate family nearby
408
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,685
and a double murder charge hanging
over him,
409
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,920
neither of which provide much
incentive to stick around.
410
00:21:01,955 --> 00:21:03,965
Bail is refused.
411
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,880
Mr Boyd, you will be remanded into
custody.
412
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:12,160
He's in a state of shock.
413
00:21:12,195 --> 00:21:14,237
He's hardly a flight risk.
414
00:21:14,272 --> 00:21:16,245
Another of your lost lambs?
415
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,720
The man has been completely
steam-rollered by the police.
416
00:21:19,755 --> 00:21:23,160
There's still his thumbprint
in the victims' blood. Partial.
417
00:21:23,195 --> 00:21:25,365
Which means
it's only a partial match.
418
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,400
Close enough to satisfy an expert.
Assuming you can use it as evidence.
419
00:21:29,435 --> 00:21:31,405
Why wouldn't we be?
420
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,485
Because of the way it was obtained.
421
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,700
Lucas Boyd was arrested purely to
allow
422
00:21:35,735 --> 00:21:37,927
the police to take his fingerprints.
423
00:21:37,962 --> 00:21:40,141
Because they had reasonable
suspicion
424
00:21:40,176 --> 00:21:42,320
based on a reliable witness
statement.
425
00:21:42,355 --> 00:21:44,365
A second-hand account of a dream.
426
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,600
An account that came from Lucas
Boyd's own solicitor.
427
00:21:47,635 --> 00:21:49,885
Are you claiming privilege?
Of course.
428
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,560
It was a personal phone call.
It's a bit of a long shot. We'll see.
429
00:21:53,595 --> 00:21:55,965
Nothing ventured, nothing gained,
Jacob.
430
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,400
Did you learn nothing
from our time together?
431
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,805
Mags was my mistress.
Pupil mistress.
432
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,200
And you thought
you knew it all even then.
433
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,360
My Lord, the rules on legal
professional privilege protect
434
00:22:15,395 --> 00:22:19,160
all communications between a
solicitor and his or her client.
435
00:22:19,195 --> 00:22:21,005
That may be so but the fact remains
436
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,120
that the witness was not under
instruction by the defendant.
437
00:22:24,155 --> 00:22:27,245
Miss Byers had previously handled my
client's divorce.
438
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,240
So it's reasonable to assume that if
he required further legal advice,
439
00:22:31,275 --> 00:22:33,640
she would be the person
that he would call.
440
00:22:33,675 --> 00:22:35,685
As he in fact did.
441
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,200
He made a personal phone call during
which he discussed the murders.
442
00:22:39,235 --> 00:22:41,245
He disclosed personal information
443
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,900
believing it would be treated as
confidential.
444
00:22:43,935 --> 00:22:46,485
To use it as grounds for arrest was
unlawful,
445
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,605
so the fingerprints the police
subsequently obtained
446
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,080
cannot be used as evidence.
I accept your logic, Ms Rumsfield,
447
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,485
but issues of confidentiality aside,
448
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,440
the print obtained from Mr Boyd
proved to be a match.
449
00:22:58,475 --> 00:23:00,285
As I'm sure you're aware,
450
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,200
partial prints have been known to be
misleading.
451
00:23:03,235 --> 00:23:06,080
Less so, when combined
with bloodstains, My Lord.
452
00:23:06,115 --> 00:23:08,480
DNA from both victims
has now been retrieved
453
00:23:08,515 --> 00:23:10,405
from the defendant's clothing
454
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,920
which Miss Rumsfield appears
to have conveniently forgotten.
455
00:23:13,955 --> 00:23:17,400
That would certainly seem
to reduce the margin for error.
456
00:23:17,435 --> 00:23:19,925
Ms Rumsfield,
your application is refused.
457
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,760
My client will be relying on a
defence of non-insane automatism.
458
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,360
I don't understand!
We know he killed them!
459
00:23:29,395 --> 00:23:31,365
He's not even denying it.
460
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,440
So why isn't he pleading guilty?
461
00:23:33,475 --> 00:23:35,517
It all comes down to intention.
462
00:23:35,552 --> 00:23:37,525
To get a verdict of murder,
463
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,600
we have to show that Lucas Boyd
meant to kill your parents.
464
00:23:40,635 --> 00:23:42,677
He stabbed them over a dozen times.
465
00:23:42,712 --> 00:23:44,685
Of course he meant to kill them.
466
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,980
But because he didn't know them
and had no obvious motive,
467
00:23:48,015 --> 00:23:51,240
the defence say he didn't know
what he was doing. So what?
468
00:23:51,275 --> 00:23:53,285
They're still dead.
469
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,405
My mum and dad are gone
because of him
470
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,325
whether he knew what he was doing or
not. Exactly.
471
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:01,400
And we're going to make sure the jury
don't forget that.
472
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,960
I never met those people.
473
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,000
I've no idea why...
474
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,520
How does it make you feel?
475
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,080
I have nightmares.
476
00:24:20,115 --> 00:24:22,085
All the time.
477
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,160
It's like I'm there. I can see them.
478
00:24:24,195 --> 00:24:26,120
But I still don't know why.
479
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,200
And I don't even know
if the nightmares are true.
480
00:24:31,235 --> 00:24:33,160
I don't even know if I did it.
481
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,000
You still don't remember?
482
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720
So what do you remember?
483
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,445
We'd been to a bar.
484
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,485
Josh and I left together.
485
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,800
I remember music playing in the car.
486
00:24:50,835 --> 00:24:53,080
Then I must have swerved or
something.
487
00:24:53,115 --> 00:24:55,097
I hit a lamp post
488
00:24:55,132 --> 00:24:57,080
and I hit my head.
489
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,360
Then Josh hailed a cab.
490
00:25:01,395 --> 00:25:03,777
And what did you do?
491
00:25:03,812 --> 00:25:06,160
I thought I walked home.
492
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,200
But you didn't.
493
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,960
I don't know.
494
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,240
An alcoholic blackout
combined with the head injury
495
00:25:18,275 --> 00:25:20,797
could have set off his associative
episode.
496
00:25:20,832 --> 00:25:23,320
It's possible he didn't know what he
was doing
497
00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:25,605
and genuinely
doesn't remember it now.
498
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,560
Even if he had a blackout,
he caused it by drinking.
499
00:25:28,595 --> 00:25:30,765
So he's still guilty
of manslaughter.
500
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,560
Except with multiple factors, we
can't say which one triggered it.
501
00:25:34,595 --> 00:25:37,440
If it's the head injury,
that's a different story.
502
00:25:37,475 --> 00:25:39,485
So he could walk?
503
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,840
Never mind the dead couple
he left lying in their own blood.
504
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:44,880
Are we missing the obvious here?
505
00:25:44,915 --> 00:25:46,925
The guy got drunk,
506
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,165
got worked up,
went looking for his ex,
507
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,205
but ended up at the wrong house
because he was pissed.
508
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,840
He knew exactly what he was doing, he
just did it to the wrong people.
509
00:25:55,875 --> 00:25:58,817
There's no conscious motive for
wanting to kill the ex-wife.
510
00:25:58,852 --> 00:26:01,760
Maybe he regretted he'd let her walk
off with the money.
511
00:26:01,795 --> 00:26:03,805
This was bloody and frenzied.
512
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,125
I'd say the motivation
was more primal.
513
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,560
Well, money or passion,
they both take us back to the ex.
514
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:14,360
No, not Lucas.
515
00:26:14,395 --> 00:26:16,360
It's crazy.
516
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,560
Do you still see each other?
517
00:26:20,595 --> 00:26:22,605
Occasionally.
518
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,160
We've...tried to remain civilised
through everything.
519
00:26:26,195 --> 00:26:28,217
Just because we're no longer
together
520
00:26:28,252 --> 00:26:30,240
doesn't mean I don't care about him.
521
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,960
You must have both been under a great
deal of pressure with the trial?
522
00:26:34,995 --> 00:26:36,965
It wasn't like that.
523
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,020
I know what you're trying to do.
524
00:26:39,055 --> 00:26:41,005
You think Lucas must be harbouring
525
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,480
some kind of seething resentment
against me.
526
00:26:43,515 --> 00:26:45,485
But it's not true.
527
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,565
The marriage just wasn't working.
528
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,800
Yes, I instigated divorce
proceedings
529
00:26:49,835 --> 00:26:51,760
but it was completely amicable.
530
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,725
According to his solicitor,
531
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Lucas only agreed to the divorce
because it was Camilla's idea.
532
00:26:58,435 --> 00:27:00,757
That was the basis
of their relationship.
533
00:27:00,792 --> 00:27:03,045
She said, "Jump",
he said, "How high?"
534
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,360
So 18 months later, he has to accept
she's not coming back.
535
00:27:06,395 --> 00:27:09,640
He thinks about those years
being treated like dirt. He cracks.
536
00:27:09,675 --> 00:27:12,040
The husband scorned,
that we can work with.
537
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,765
So in your professional opinion,
Miss Byers,
538
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,920
if anyone had grounds for divorce, it
would have been your client Mr Boyd?
539
00:27:21,955 --> 00:27:23,845
That's correct. There had been
540
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,520
multiple examples of unreasonable
behaviour.
541
00:27:26,555 --> 00:27:29,125
They hadn't been on holiday
for three years,
542
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,780
because his wife hadn't wanted to
take the time off work.
543
00:27:32,815 --> 00:27:36,400
And their sexual relationship
had ended some time before
544
00:27:36,435 --> 00:27:38,725
because of Ms Mallon's
intimacy issues.
545
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,920
Yet in the end, he not only agreed to
let her divorce him,
546
00:27:41,955 --> 00:27:44,840
but he also agreed to an 80/20 split
of their assets.
547
00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:47,280
Do you know why he chose this course
of action?
548
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,640
He told me he wanted to give
his wife whatever she wanted.
549
00:27:51,675 --> 00:27:54,725
Then perhaps she'd realise
she was making a mistake.
550
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,240
So he didn't actually want the
divorce to go through? No.
551
00:27:59,275 --> 00:28:01,285
And yet the divorce did go through?
552
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,240
And Mr Boyd was left with nothing
but a burning sense of injustice...
553
00:28:05,275 --> 00:28:08,280
My Lord, Mr Thorne is indulging in
lurid speculation.
554
00:28:08,315 --> 00:28:10,760
Save it for your closing speech,
Mr Thorne.
555
00:28:10,795 --> 00:28:12,805
Certainly, My Lord.
556
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,920
I'm merely pointing out that the
defence of automatism
557
00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:17,885
implies that Mr Boyd experienced
558
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,200
a total loss of control over his
actions,
559
00:28:20,235 --> 00:28:22,085
whereas harbouring a grudge
560
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,560
and deciding to kill your ex-wife
is a very different matter
561
00:28:25,595 --> 00:28:28,177
whether you end up in the right house
or not.
562
00:28:28,212 --> 00:28:30,746
MAN: Have you ever had a drunken
blackout?
563
00:28:30,781 --> 00:28:33,280
Lost a few hours here and there
as a student.
564
00:28:33,315 --> 00:28:35,405
I threw up in someone's garden.
Nice.
565
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,240
But your expert agrees it could have
been a disassociative episode.
566
00:28:39,275 --> 00:28:41,285
In theory. But now we've shown Boyd
567
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,445
had a motive for wanting his wife
dead,
568
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,000
the automatism defence seems too
convenient.
569
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,880
So is this where you soften me up,
try to get me to lower the charges?
570
00:28:56,915 --> 00:29:00,560
Nothing so gauche. I'm simply buying
you a drink to say thank you.
571
00:29:00,595 --> 00:29:02,605
OK. Thank you for what?
572
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,640
Establishing
my client's new defence.
573
00:29:05,675 --> 00:29:07,685
We're changing to loss of control
574
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,140
as a result
of Battered Person Syndrome.
575
00:29:10,175 --> 00:29:12,560
Right. Who's supposed
to have battered who?
576
00:29:12,595 --> 00:29:14,605
It appears Mr Boyd
577
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,720
was subjected to sustained mental
and emotional abuse
578
00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:19,765
throughout his marriage.
579
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,500
But like many victims, was unable to
admit it, even to himself.
580
00:29:23,535 --> 00:29:27,200
Fortunately, your witness was able
to bring the situation to light.
581
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,645
Come off it, Mags.
582
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,285
Male spousal abuse
is a serious issue, Jacob.
583
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,100
So it'd be highly unethical
to use it as a cynical ploy.
584
00:29:37,135 --> 00:29:40,907
Absolutely. But what we have here
is a genuine tragedy.
585
00:29:40,942 --> 00:29:44,680
Lucas Boyd was as much a victim
as the people he killed.
586
00:29:44,715 --> 00:29:47,120
Try and tell that to their daughter.
587
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,405
Battered Person Syndrome?
588
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,005
Hoist by your own petard.
She's taken your motive
589
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,480
and turned it into a defence.
Why not stick with automatism?
590
00:29:56,515 --> 00:29:59,437
At least she had a chance of a
complete acquittal.
591
00:29:59,472 --> 00:30:02,360
Failing that, she could have pushed
for manslaughter.
592
00:30:02,395 --> 00:30:04,445
What it does is paint Boyd as a
victim.
593
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,800
With an unsympathetic jury,
he could be looking at murder.
594
00:30:07,835 --> 00:30:09,845
But now instead of an angry bloke,
595
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,320
he becomes a nice guy who knocked his
head and finally snapped
596
00:30:13,355 --> 00:30:15,925
after years of mental cruelty.
It won't work.
597
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,965
He didn't kill his so-called abuser.
He killed the Lerners.
598
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Battered Person Syndrome is no
defence against killing strangers.
599
00:30:22,475 --> 00:30:25,257
But so long as he believed he was
killing his ex,
600
00:30:25,292 --> 00:30:28,040
Mags can argue that the history of
abuse is relevant.
601
00:30:28,075 --> 00:30:30,320
Then you'll have to redress the
balance.
602
00:30:30,355 --> 00:30:32,280
I want him put away for murder.
603
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,485
The sad truth is, in our society,
604
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,765
male spousal abuse is still largely
treated as a joke.
605
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,320
And would you say the defendant fits
the profile of an abused spouse?
606
00:30:43,355 --> 00:30:45,365
Absolutely.
607
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000
Lucas was repeatedly
criticised and humiliated
608
00:30:48,035 --> 00:30:50,117
in front of friends and family.
609
00:30:50,152 --> 00:30:52,165
His ex-wife controlled the finances
610
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,760
and would frequently withhold
money and sex
611
00:30:54,795 --> 00:30:56,920
as a means of control and punishment.
612
00:30:56,955 --> 00:30:59,565
So he must have hated his wife?
613
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,285
On the contrary,
he loved her very much.
614
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,440
He was desperate for Camilla
to become more affectionate
615
00:31:05,475 --> 00:31:08,160
and for them to forge
a healthier relationship.
616
00:31:08,195 --> 00:31:10,205
And yet he wanted her dead?
617
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,920
There can come a point where the
victim realises
618
00:31:12,955 --> 00:31:15,057
he must break free of his abuser.
619
00:31:15,092 --> 00:31:17,160
By violent means if necessary.
620
00:31:17,195 --> 00:31:19,205
And in your opinion,
621
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,960
is that what happened on the night
of the murders?
622
00:31:21,995 --> 00:31:23,920
Yes. I believe so.
623
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,485
Dr Bligh,
624
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,400
how common is it for victims of
spousal abuse
625
00:31:31,435 --> 00:31:34,160
to ultimately kill his or her abuser?
626
00:31:34,195 --> 00:31:36,205
Not that common.
627
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,580
But in some cases... People who've
been through a painful divorce
628
00:31:39,615 --> 00:31:42,920
frequently get drunk and get angry
about the past, do they not?
629
00:31:42,955 --> 00:31:44,937
Yes, of course. But...
630
00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:46,920
Nothing more, My Lord.
631
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,925
Lucas,
632
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,680
is it true that your ex-wife
abandoned you
633
00:31:54,715 --> 00:31:56,925
in the middle of your honeymoon
634
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,680
because she decided to return to
work early?
635
00:31:59,715 --> 00:32:01,640
She was negotiating a big deal.
636
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,760
She said it was bad timing.
637
00:32:04,795 --> 00:32:06,805
And was it bad timing
638
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,200
when you locked yourself out
one night after a faculty party
639
00:32:10,235 --> 00:32:12,840
and Camilla
refused to open the door?
640
00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:14,845
She had an early meeting
641
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,925
so she'd asked me not to wake her.
642
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,860
So you were left out
in the cold and rain
643
00:32:19,895 --> 00:32:22,760
and had to resort to forcing a
window
644
00:32:22,795 --> 00:32:25,285
and climbing into your own home?
645
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,520
Like a burglar? Despite the fact
that your wife was inside?
646
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,765
She...
647
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,725
She felt bad the next day.
And it only happened once.
648
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,080
How many times did she tell you
you should get a better-paid job
649
00:32:39,115 --> 00:32:41,440
because she was sick
of supporting you?
650
00:32:41,475 --> 00:32:43,400
Camilla had very high standards.
651
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,600
Something I loved about her.
652
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,560
And how often did she tell you
she loved you?
653
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,520
She did tell you she loved you?
654
00:32:55,555 --> 00:32:57,805
You were married after all.
655
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,300
You were meant to be sharing a life
together.
656
00:33:00,335 --> 00:33:02,760
Camilla found it hard
to be affectionate.
657
00:33:02,795 --> 00:33:05,157
And that could be hurtful sometimes.
658
00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:07,520
But I knew that she cared about me.
659
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,000
And I loved her...
660
00:33:11,035 --> 00:33:12,960
very much.
661
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,520
No further questions, My Lord.
662
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,285
Let's leave it there, Mr Thorne.
663
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,920
We'll resume at 10:00am on Monday
with your cross-examination.
664
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Of course, My Lord.
665
00:33:29,035 --> 00:33:31,000
USHER: Court will rise!
666
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680
MAN: Camilla!
667
00:33:35,715 --> 00:33:37,640
Camilla!
668
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,160
You can't let him upset you.
669
00:33:41,195 --> 00:33:43,177
Did you hear what he said?
670
00:33:43,212 --> 00:33:45,160
(THEY CONTINUE TALKING)
671
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,205
The depressing thing is
the jury seem to be buying it.
672
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,080
A lot of men feel emasculated by
a woman being the main breadwinner.
673
00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:57,080
Never understood it myself.
I'd like to be a kept man.
674
00:33:57,115 --> 00:33:59,565
Sadly, Mrs Sharpe is not amenable.
675
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,000
So it all comes down to how many of
the jury resent their wives?
676
00:34:03,035 --> 00:34:05,077
How many heart strings Mags pulls.
677
00:34:05,112 --> 00:34:07,085
Sounds like she played a blinder.
678
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,600
Yep, the wronged husband
intent on defending
679
00:34:09,635 --> 00:34:11,600
the abusive wife till the bitter end.
680
00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:13,677
It's a clever choice.
681
00:34:13,712 --> 00:34:15,685
What if he was wronged?
682
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,725
What do you mean?
I don't know.
683
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,500
I saw Camilla with Josh Shelton
outside the court.
684
00:34:20,535 --> 00:34:23,205
Was he offering her support in her
hour of need?
685
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,160
He wasn't snogging her outside the
Old Bailey if that's what you mean.
686
00:34:27,195 --> 00:34:29,640
Far from it.
From the way they were arguing,
687
00:34:29,675 --> 00:34:31,680
I got the impression...
688
00:34:31,715 --> 00:34:33,640
Lovers' tiff?
689
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,120
If Lucas thought Camilla
had a lover...
690
00:34:37,155 --> 00:34:39,165
It's a big "if".
691
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Then it could explain why he killed
David as well as Elaine.
692
00:34:42,515 --> 00:34:44,485
Mags can hardly run loss of control
693
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560
based on him finding out his wife
was having an affair.
694
00:34:47,595 --> 00:34:49,600
The judge would
throw it out of court.
695
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,805
OK, then we talk to Camilla.
696
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,560
But if I've got to poke around
in the intimate details
697
00:34:57,595 --> 00:34:59,840
of the woman's love life, you're
coming with me.
698
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,240
I know you must think
I'm some kind of monster.
699
00:35:13,275 --> 00:35:16,000
After all the things
they've said about me. But...
700
00:35:16,035 --> 00:35:17,960
you have no idea.
701
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,440
I tried.
702
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,565
I really tried.
703
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,240
When we first met,
Lucas seemed so...
704
00:35:27,275 --> 00:35:29,285
gentle and sweet.
705
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200
And then I started
to see how needy he was.
706
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,565
He needed constant reassurance.
707
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,260
He wouldn't believe
that I wanted to be with him.
708
00:35:38,295 --> 00:35:40,687
He was convinced
that I was going to leave him
709
00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:43,080
or that I must be sleeping with
other men.
710
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,005
Yes, I know.
711
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,800
But he didn't even want me
to see my friends.
712
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Tell them about the night
he broke in.
713
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,600
Lucas told you I locked him out.
714
00:36:00,635 --> 00:36:02,600
But that's not what happened.
715
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,880
I managed to persuade him that...
716
00:36:07,915 --> 00:36:09,925
we needed some time apart.
717
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,600
And he agreed to stay
with a friend for a few days.
718
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,160
I went to bed and I put the dead
bolt on the door.
719
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,485
I woke up at 2:00 in the morning
720
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,840
to find him standing at the foot of
the bed.
721
00:36:25,875 --> 00:36:27,800
Sobbing.
722
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,360
He had broken
through the kitchen window
723
00:36:33,395 --> 00:36:35,360
and he was holding a knife.
724
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,800
He told me that if...
725
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,080
..if I didn't let him come home,
then he'd kill himself.
726
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,325
And you believed him?
727
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,360
Part of me thought it was an act.
728
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,040
But I could never be sure
and that's why I stayed.
729
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,400
But then I met Josh and...
730
00:37:00,435 --> 00:37:02,400
I knew I had to leave.
731
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,520
For my own sanity.
732
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,085
I just...
733
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,160
never knew how
to tell Lucas about us.
734
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,320
You're sure he doesn't already know?
735
00:37:14,355 --> 00:37:16,365
No, there's no way.
736
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,500
We were very careful.
We'd never go out in London.
737
00:37:19,535 --> 00:37:22,600
And if we go away for a weekend,
we travel separately.
738
00:37:22,635 --> 00:37:24,645
Even now after all this time?
739
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,720
Camilla is still scared
about what he might do to himself.
740
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,565
Maybe we're wrong.
741
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,000
If Lucas knew all this time
why wait till now to do something?
742
00:37:37,035 --> 00:37:39,137
He can't keep his emotions in check.
743
00:37:39,172 --> 00:37:41,486
What if we're looking at it
backwards?
744
00:37:41,521 --> 00:37:43,765
What if it wasn't slow-burning
resentment?
745
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,280
What if something happened the night
of the murders to trigger it?
746
00:37:47,315 --> 00:37:50,320
He got drunk and hit his head.
But why did he get drunk?
747
00:37:50,355 --> 00:37:52,805
He never usually drinks more than two
pints.
748
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,000
What was different that night?
He got drunk on purpose?
749
00:37:56,035 --> 00:37:58,480
Maybe he just found out something
upsetting
750
00:37:58,515 --> 00:38:00,525
and needed to get hammered.
751
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,120
When he drove into a lamp post
that could have been deliberate?
752
00:38:04,155 --> 00:38:06,880
You didn't have plans this weekend,
did you?
753
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,840
The police took statements
from all the guys
754
00:38:11,875 --> 00:38:13,885
at the bar with Lucas and Josh.
755
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,000
And nobody spoke to Lucas about
anything more personal
756
00:38:17,035 --> 00:38:19,525
than football and university league
tables.
757
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,280
However, they all commented
that Lucas started drinking heavily
758
00:38:23,315 --> 00:38:25,325
as soon as he got to the bar.
759
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Josh was adamant that no-one at work
knew about him and Camilla.
760
00:38:28,955 --> 00:38:31,445
Then he must have found out earlier.
But how?
761
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,405
100 different ways.
Maybe Lucas saw them together.
762
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Maybe Josh turned up for work
smelling of Camilla's perfume?
763
00:38:37,995 --> 00:38:40,600
Let's stick to things we can prove,
shall we?
764
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,920
What did Josh say about the early
part of the evening? Not much.
765
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,925
He was coaching a rugby match,
766
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,085
was running late, so he came
straight round to Lucas's,
767
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,360
checked a few urgent e-mails,
took a shower, drove to the bar.
768
00:38:56,395 --> 00:38:58,405
Checked his e-mails?
769
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,160
What, on his phone?
I presume so, but I can check.
770
00:39:01,195 --> 00:39:03,200
Great. You hungry?
771
00:39:03,235 --> 00:39:05,160
I'm starving.
772
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,765
Listen to this.
773
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,340
Josh's phone was low on batteries
so he borrowed Lucas's laptop.
774
00:39:14,375 --> 00:39:17,880
I checked with the police tech guys
who went over Lucas's computer.
775
00:39:17,915 --> 00:39:21,280
You got hold of them on a Saturday?
Technology never sleeps.
776
00:39:21,315 --> 00:39:23,325
They called up Lucas's history
777
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,200
and it showed Josh logged onto his
web-based e-mail account at 6:20,
778
00:39:27,235 --> 00:39:29,657
sent a few e-mails,
then closed it down.
779
00:39:29,692 --> 00:39:32,045
Ten minutes later,
someone went back online
780
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,720
and bought a printer cartridge using
Lucas Boyd's credit card details,
781
00:39:35,755 --> 00:39:39,360
then they called up and logged
straight into Josh's e-mail account.
782
00:39:39,395 --> 00:39:42,245
So Lucas went looking
for incriminating e-mails?
783
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,920
He probably just went to log on,
but cos Josh hadn't logged out,
784
00:39:45,955 --> 00:39:49,560
just closed the window... Lucas went
straight into his account.
785
00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:52,357
And saw an inbox full of e-mails
from Miss Moneypenny.
786
00:39:52,392 --> 00:39:55,120
When he opened one
it would be obvious it was Camilla.
787
00:39:55,155 --> 00:39:57,677
So much for discretion.
Yeah.
788
00:39:57,712 --> 00:40:00,165
Miss Moneypenny
and Scrummy Half,
789
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,880
not to mention all the references to
"L" coping since the divorce.
790
00:40:03,915 --> 00:40:06,257
It's not exactly the Enigma Code.
791
00:40:06,292 --> 00:40:08,486
Also Josh never clears his inbox.
792
00:40:08,521 --> 00:40:10,720
So the e-mails go back three years.
793
00:40:10,755 --> 00:40:12,885
Lucas would have realised
everything.
794
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,440
Which gives us sexual jealousy
and revenge.
795
00:40:15,475 --> 00:40:17,400
We can get him for murder.
796
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,605
Mr Boyd,
797
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,325
it's clear that despite the end of
your marriage
798
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,480
you still have very strong feelings
about your ex-wife.
799
00:40:29,515 --> 00:40:31,485
Yes, I do.
800
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,685
Even during the divorce proceedings,
801
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,920
you were hoping to salvage
the relationship?
802
00:40:35,955 --> 00:40:38,120
I hoped we might be able
to work things out.
803
00:40:38,155 --> 00:40:40,165
It must have come as a shock then
804
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,325
to find out that she'd been
unfaithful
805
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,000
and was in fact sleeping with a
colleague of yours behind your back?
806
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,245
A terrible shock, in fact.
807
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,520
My Lord, this is pure conjecture
on the part of Mr Thorne.
808
00:40:55,555 --> 00:40:58,177
These allegations are
in no way based on fact.
809
00:40:58,212 --> 00:41:00,800
On the contrary. I wish to enter
into evidence
810
00:41:00,835 --> 00:41:03,197
a printout of the e-mail
correspondence
811
00:41:03,232 --> 00:41:05,616
between Josh Shelton
and Camilla Mallon.
812
00:41:05,651 --> 00:41:08,105
A correspondence which clearly
documents
813
00:41:08,140 --> 00:41:10,525
the couple's three-year-long
relationship
814
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,280
and which was seen by Mr Boyd
on the night he murdered the Lerners.
815
00:41:14,315 --> 00:41:16,157
Was it not, Mr Boyd?
I don't...
816
00:41:16,192 --> 00:41:17,965
Did you or did you not access
817
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,320
Josh Shelton's e-mail account on that
night? I'm not sure.
818
00:41:21,355 --> 00:41:24,005
After you saw the e-mails
you started drinking
819
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,760
to work up courage to confront your
so-called friend. I was upset.
820
00:41:27,795 --> 00:41:30,717
So you waited till you had Mr Shelton
alone in the car,
821
00:41:30,752 --> 00:41:33,640
and then you attempted to drive him
into a lamp post.
822
00:41:33,675 --> 00:41:36,557
After that you went
to find your ex-wife. No.
823
00:41:36,592 --> 00:41:39,405
No, it was a mistake.
I lost control of the car.
824
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,045
We've heard a great deal about loss
of control during this trial.
825
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,680
The defence would have us believe
that because of your loss of control
826
00:41:46,715 --> 00:41:49,325
you cannot be held accountable
for your actions.
827
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,960
But let's just stop and look at those
actions. Shall we?
828
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,085
David and Elaine Lerner...
829
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,520
were asleep in bed when you broke
into their home.
830
00:41:59,555 --> 00:42:02,697
You armed yourself with this chisel
831
00:42:02,732 --> 00:42:05,366
and then stabbed them both brutally,
832
00:42:05,401 --> 00:42:08,000
and repeatedly, until they were dead.
833
00:42:08,035 --> 00:42:10,045
Of this there is no doubt.
834
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,720
Your clothes were covered in the
victims' DNA
835
00:42:12,755 --> 00:42:15,377
and your thumb print was found in
Elaine's blood
836
00:42:15,412 --> 00:42:18,000
on the wall above the bed.
But I didn't mean to.
837
00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:20,325
We know you didn't mean to kill the
Lerners
838
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,160
because your intended victims were
your supposed friend and ex-wife.
839
00:42:24,195 --> 00:42:28,137
The trouble is you had to get drunk
in order to go through with it.
840
00:42:28,172 --> 00:42:32,080
And became so intoxicated that you
mistakenly broke into your old house
841
00:42:32,115 --> 00:42:34,405
where, consumed
with rage and jealousy,
842
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,160
you brutally murdered two innocent
strangers!
843
00:42:37,195 --> 00:42:39,205
David and Elaine Lerner!
844
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,840
Believing them to be your ex-wife
and her lover.
845
00:42:42,875 --> 00:42:44,845
No.
846
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,840
No, that isn't what happened.
847
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,805
I was upset, yeah.
848
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,800
OK, but I had a right to be.
849
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,600
I'd have done anything for you.
850
00:42:58,635 --> 00:43:00,560
You know that.
851
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,560
And all the time, you were with him.
852
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,800
I had...I had to show you
how much you'd hurt me.
853
00:43:08,835 --> 00:43:11,360
When I realised
it wasn't you in the bed,
854
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,400
I was so relieved.
855
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,640
I love you so much, Camilla.
856
00:43:21,675 --> 00:43:23,600
If I'd killed you,
857
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,960
I couldn't have lived with myself.
858
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,520
And yet you feel no such guilt
about the Lerners?
859
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,960
Would the defendant please stand?
860
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Members of the jury,
861
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,800
have you reached a verdict upon
which you are all agreed?
862
00:43:45,835 --> 00:43:47,845
Yes.
863
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,840
On count one,
the murder of Elaine Lerner.
864
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,240
Do you find the defendant Mr Boyd
guilty...
865
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,560
..or not guilty?
866
00:43:58,595 --> 00:44:00,520
Guilty.
867
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,605
And on count two,
868
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,685
the murder of David Lerner,
869
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,760
do you find the defendant Mr Boyd
guilty or not guilty?
870
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,205
Guilty.
871
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,285
'Talk about passive aggressive.'
872
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,520
The guy was still controlling
his ex-wife
873
00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:19,245
two years after their divorce
874
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,445
and he's allowed to accuse her of
mental abuse.
875
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,000
Given how things ended up, aggressive
definitely won over passive.
876
00:44:25,035 --> 00:44:27,517
Do you think Lucas knew he'd done it
all along?
877
00:44:27,552 --> 00:44:30,000
Maybe he only started remembering
during the trial.
878
00:44:30,035 --> 00:44:31,960
That's one hell of a flashback.
879
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:38,000
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