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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 In the criminal justice system, the people are represented 2 00:00:02,715 --> 00:00:05,320 by two separate yet equally important groups. 3 00:00:05,355 --> 00:00:07,285 The police who investigate crime 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,200 and the Crown Prosecutors who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:10,235 --> 00:00:12,160 These are their stories. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,840 They ran through from the bar, in this direction. 7 00:00:18,875 --> 00:00:21,920 He was 6', she was 5'5". Blimey. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,765 Oi! Hang on, there's blood everywhere here, 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,720 I don't want your plates of meat trampling through it. 10 00:00:30,755 --> 00:00:32,720 Go the other way. Use the other door. 11 00:00:32,755 --> 00:00:34,045 Alan. Yeah. 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,920 There's evidence needs photographing. Can you get that done for me? OK. 13 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:40,245 Thank you. Sorry, Matty, you were saying? 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Yeah, wearing masks. Latex. He was either Tony Blair or David Cameron, 15 00:00:44,795 --> 00:00:48,200 witness couldn't tell the difference. She was Maggie Thatcher. 16 00:00:48,235 --> 00:00:50,520 There's no mistaking her, that's for sure. 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,685 Right, Joy, what have you got? 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,965 Four bullet wounds, two at close range. 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,880 From the angle of entry I'd say the one to the head was first 20 00:00:57,915 --> 00:00:59,920 and the rest are just making sure. 21 00:00:59,955 --> 00:01:02,017 How sure do you have to be? 22 00:01:02,052 --> 00:01:04,080 How's our Goth girl doing? 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,880 She's not. Time of death, 2:39. 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,565 It's like the OK Corral, what's happened? 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,840 Excuse me, DS Brooks! Yeah, wait there, please, thank you. 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,280 Yes, sir, how can we help? 27 00:01:18,315 --> 00:01:20,200 I'm, I'm the cleaner. Mr...? 28 00:01:20,235 --> 00:01:22,365 Barnes, Stuart Barnes. 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,400 Did you see anything, Mr Barnes? No. I got here for my shift 30 00:01:25,435 --> 00:01:28,160 and went to talk to Helen like I always do. 31 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:32,285 And Helen is? Helen Shane. The manager. 32 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:35,460 I always start in her office, I change the water for her flowers. 33 00:01:35,495 --> 00:01:38,565 That's where I've been. I heard the gunshots, so I stayed there, 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,280 I didn't know what else to do. So where is Helen Shane now, Mr Barnes? 35 00:01:42,315 --> 00:01:45,120 This is her handbag. I found it outside the toilet. 36 00:01:45,155 --> 00:01:47,165 The strap's torn. 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,940 Now I can't find her. I heard the gunshots. I was terrified. 38 00:01:50,975 --> 00:01:54,645 If I hadn't hidden in the office - You did the right thing. 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,400 We need you to calm down right now and talk to one of our officers if that's OK? 40 00:01:58,435 --> 00:01:59,765 (MOBILE PHONE RINGS) Er, Julie? Devlin. 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,580 Take Mr Barnes' description of Helen Shane please, 42 00:02:02,615 --> 00:02:05,360 and get it back to me as soon as you can, all right? 43 00:02:05,395 --> 00:02:08,205 We may have a hostage situation. Oh my God. 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,640 You go with Julie, Mr Barnes. Thank you very much. Take it easy. 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,125 We've got to end this before somebody else gets hurt. 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Too late. Neighbourhood offy, guy and a girl wearing masks, 47 00:02:19,635 --> 00:02:21,560 just shot the owner dead. 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Law and Order UK 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Season 5, Episode 4 "Tick Tock" 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Sync and corrected by www.addic7ed.com 51 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,300 It was so fast and at the same time, seemed to be in slow-motion. 52 00:03:11,335 --> 00:03:14,760 And there was just the two of them? Bloke, well built, I guess. 53 00:03:14,795 --> 00:03:16,685 Skinny girl, nothing to her at all. 54 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,005 There wasn't another woman - Helen Shane? 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,080 30-ish, short brown hair, tattoo on the back of her neck? 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,360 She might have been in the car, a silver car. Did you catch the make? 57 00:03:27,395 --> 00:03:29,280 A Citroen or a Peugeot? Thank you. 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,200 The uniformed officer will escort you. Sir. 59 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Two hits to the chest. Point blank. What a mess. 60 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,400 Well, I'll add the silver car to the old description. 61 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Why would they shoot him? I mean, the tills haven't been broken into. 62 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,280 Well, let's hope that's not a fake. 63 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,000 (HUBBUB OF PHONES AND VOICES) 64 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,445 Three bodies in 30 minutes. 65 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,520 I need a risk assessment from a CO19 unit as soon as. OK. 66 00:04:08,555 --> 00:04:10,725 Give me something in the next couple of hours. 67 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,565 I've got the media already setting up camp outside, 68 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,160 and Callaghan wanting me to do a press conference for breakfast news. 69 00:04:17,195 --> 00:04:19,497 Lab's doing blood analysis from the club. 70 00:04:19,532 --> 00:04:21,765 And SOCO are dusting for prints at the offy. 71 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,560 No-one's turned up at Helen Shane's flat, uniform are there in case. 72 00:04:25,595 --> 00:04:27,520 Fingers crossed she's still alive. 73 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,525 Look at the way she's holding that gun. 74 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,560 The recoil from that would knock her arm into her face if she fired that. 75 00:04:35,595 --> 00:04:37,725 Guv, night club owner's just arrived. 76 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,400 I put him in one of the interview rooms. It's Helen Shane's brother. 77 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:50,365 She's my twin. Not erm...identical, lucky for her. 78 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Is there any reason why someone would target her specifically? 79 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,485 No. She got on with everyone. 80 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,440 And she manages the club? Yeah. We set up business together 81 00:04:59,475 --> 00:05:01,485 about ten years ago. 82 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,860 Can't believe we're still open, to be honest, 83 00:05:03,895 --> 00:05:06,200 but that's all down to her. She's got the brains. 84 00:05:06,235 --> 00:05:09,120 So, she closes up alone, does she? 85 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,020 We've got two rooms, a main floor and a chill-out zone. 86 00:05:14,055 --> 00:05:18,360 Each has a bar. Helen closes the chill bar, cashes up 87 00:05:18,395 --> 00:05:21,040 and then brings everything to Napalm. Napalm? 88 00:05:21,075 --> 00:05:22,400 Nickname. 89 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,280 Was a nickname. 90 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,600 For Nathan Palmer. The head barman. 91 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,400 Right, so all the money in the building is all in one place 92 00:05:36,435 --> 00:05:38,360 just before closing? 93 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,445 Napalm puts everything in the safe 94 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,800 and then we take it to the bank in the morning. 95 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,325 So Bonnie and Clyde hit the club at exactly the right time, 96 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,680 exactly the right place, and Helen, who cashes up, has disappeared. 97 00:05:53,715 --> 00:05:55,885 She's not involved. She wouldn't do that. 98 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,160 Anyone at the club knows how we cash up. Anyone with a grudge? 99 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,960 There's no-one here, Ron. 100 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,320 o you were a bouncer at the Moon Club? Yeah, so? 101 00:06:06,355 --> 00:06:08,325 Any particular reason why you left? 102 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,460 Yeah. Owner's an idiot. Lives in some fantasy world 103 00:06:11,495 --> 00:06:14,525 where you don't pay minimum wage. Check him out. 104 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Right, we'll be sure to do that. When were you last there? 105 00:06:17,715 --> 00:06:20,497 Few weeks ago. He still owes me a month's money. 106 00:06:20,532 --> 00:06:23,245 Did you see Helen Shane when you were there? 107 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,617 Owner reckons you had a schoolboy crush on Miss 108 00:06:25,618 --> 00:06:27,954 Shane. Or was that another of his fantasies? 109 00:06:27,955 --> 00:06:30,405 What did she do? Knock you back? Dent your pride? 110 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,040 I don't know what you're on about. The only thing dented was her car. 111 00:06:34,075 --> 00:06:36,480 She nearly ran me over. What was she driving? 112 00:06:36,515 --> 00:06:38,240 Peugeot. Colour? 113 00:06:38,275 --> 00:06:40,245 Silver. Why? 114 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:43,480 Already on it. (KEYPAD BEEPS) 115 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,200 TV REPORTER: I'm just outside the Moon Club in central London. 116 00:06:50,235 --> 00:06:52,445 All right, Ange? Good to see you out and about. 117 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,520 Yeah, I'm off home, thought I may as well update you on my way. 118 00:06:55,555 --> 00:06:59,520 Right, what have you got? Silver Peugeot 406. '52 plate, 119 00:06:59,555 --> 00:07:02,200 registered to Helen Shane, description's gone out 120 00:07:02,235 --> 00:07:04,325 to all boroughs but nothing found yet. 121 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,085 So, what do we think then? Helen Shane becomes a target. 122 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,340 Is it because she's off home and has got an easy get-away car? 123 00:07:10,375 --> 00:07:13,560 Well, if that's the case, then we should be checking the CCTV 124 00:07:13,595 --> 00:07:16,037 from local tube stations. See if we can find out 125 00:07:16,072 --> 00:07:18,445 which route Tony and Maggie took to get here. 126 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Unless they did come in a car. Nicked a better one? 127 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,360 I checked these streets and there was a W registered Toyota here. 128 00:07:26,395 --> 00:07:29,800 Reported stolen by a Mrs Annabel Scott at midday Tuesday. 129 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,800 Flat tyre. 130 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Forensics are sending a truck to take it back to the station. 131 00:07:41,155 --> 00:07:43,717 Well, tell the lab boys we couldn't wait. 132 00:07:43,752 --> 00:07:46,280 Twix wrapper, empty vodka bottle. Ron... 133 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,365 Well, no white powder. 134 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,485 What do you reckon? Weed? Resin? 135 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Yeah, could be. And a receipt from Nobo's News, dated yesterday. 136 00:07:58,235 --> 00:08:02,880 Cigarette papers, packet of fags, two items saying Old St Louis. 137 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,045 That is tobacco, Old St Louis. You don't hear of it much these days. 138 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,880 My old man smoked it. Do us a favour, call the owner of this car, will you? 139 00:08:10,915 --> 00:08:13,800 Find out what state it was in when she last had it. Yes, sir. 140 00:08:13,835 --> 00:08:17,360 Thank you. Cos my guessing is, she's no pot-head. 141 00:08:17,395 --> 00:08:19,325 Whoever sold this could give us 142 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,440 a description of our killers without their masks on. 143 00:08:22,475 --> 00:08:25,317 You any idea how many people buy fags from Nobo's? 144 00:08:25,352 --> 00:08:28,125 We're on the way to a tube station, for God's sake. 145 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,880 I can't remember one bloke. Well, you know, I appreciate that, Ruby, 146 00:08:31,915 --> 00:08:35,805 I really, really do, but this is very important. 147 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,640 A woman's life is in danger and you might be able to help. 148 00:08:38,675 --> 00:08:41,200 So just try and think back to yesterday morning 149 00:08:41,235 --> 00:08:43,160 and remember something. Anything. 150 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,200 I think he had a denim jacket. Well, there 151 00:08:46,201 --> 00:08:48,600 you are, good, that's great. How hard was that? 152 00:08:48,635 --> 00:08:52,280 A denim jacket. Anything you remember about him that he didn't have? 153 00:08:52,315 --> 00:08:55,320 Like what? How can I remember what he didn't have? 154 00:08:55,355 --> 00:08:58,080 Well, like a beard, for instance. 155 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Oh, right. I get it. 156 00:09:02,155 --> 00:09:04,080 Yeah. 157 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,965 And? 158 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,920 What? Well did he or did he not have a beard? 159 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,640 He had, like, stubble. Great, stubble. 160 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,445 Er... How's it going? 161 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,525 Well, slowly, but slowly, you know. 162 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:26,125 Forensics pulled loads of prints from the Toyota. 163 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,000 One partial who's not the owner but not enough for an ID. 164 00:09:29,035 --> 00:09:31,085 And how's the press conference going? 165 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,000 Pretty rough. Press going crazy calling it a gun spree. 166 00:09:34,035 --> 00:09:36,880 TV crews everywhere, think Christmas has come early. 167 00:09:36,915 --> 00:09:38,840 We've found the Peugeot. 168 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,440 Boys, it's just round the corner, the other side of the estate. 169 00:09:45,475 --> 00:09:48,160 No-one in it. I've got plain-clothes on both ends 170 00:09:48,195 --> 00:09:50,120 and on every side street. 171 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,640 All clear? For now. 172 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,125 So, what are we waiting for? 173 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Hang on, they don't know that we've found the car yet. 174 00:09:58,035 --> 00:10:00,080 It could be full of prints, give us an ID. 175 00:10:00,115 --> 00:10:01,925 Or they could have gone for a coffee. 176 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,960 They might come straight back if we wait here a few minutes. 177 00:10:04,995 --> 00:10:07,697 While Helen Shane does what? File her nails? 178 00:10:07,732 --> 00:10:10,400 Oh, bloody news crews, do they never give up? 179 00:10:10,435 --> 00:10:12,165 Not once they've smelled blood. 180 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,840 Right, we'll quick before they get any pictures. 181 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,040 It's not locked. 182 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Same left-over baccy packet and more vodka. 183 00:10:28,515 --> 00:10:30,877 Maybe one of our killers has a drink problem? 184 00:10:30,912 --> 00:10:33,240 Or needed Dutch courage to pull the trigger. 185 00:10:33,275 --> 00:10:35,200 Gov, Ron... 186 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Helen Shane. 187 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:51,960 No reports of any other cars stolen where we found the Peugeot. 188 00:10:51,995 --> 00:10:54,445 Well, might not have noticed yet. 189 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,285 Helen Shane had only been dead a couple of hours 190 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,000 by the time we found her. Shot in the back and bled out. 191 00:11:00,035 --> 00:11:02,245 What a way to go. Hello, Brooks? 192 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,480 Forensics found another partial print. Is it good enough? 193 00:11:05,515 --> 00:11:07,325 Matches the partial from the Toyota. 194 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Listen up, everyone, shut up! Quiet please! 195 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,805 Says her name's Maggie. As in Thatcher? 196 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,560 Could be. Where are you, love? Can you tell me, please? 197 00:11:15,595 --> 00:11:18,005 (SOBBING) Oh God, he's coming! 198 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Who's coming, love? What's going on? He's coming back. I've gotta go. 199 00:11:21,955 --> 00:11:24,560 (DIAL TONE) Do you reckon it was our Maggie? 200 00:11:24,595 --> 00:11:26,965 Could be. Or a crank. (PHONE RINGS) 201 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Didn't seem like a crank. Why didn't she leave her name? 202 00:11:30,195 --> 00:11:33,320 Maybe her real name is Maggie. We have a fingerprint match. 203 00:11:33,355 --> 00:11:35,617 We know who one of them is. 204 00:11:35,652 --> 00:11:37,845 Andy Bishop. 31. Ex-serviceman, 205 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,700 decorated during a tour of Iraq seven years ago, 206 00:11:40,735 --> 00:11:43,485 but had difficulty readjusting to civilian life. 207 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,360 According to medical reports he went through an alcohol detox programme 208 00:11:47,395 --> 00:11:49,165 twice since leaving. Last year 209 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,245 he was done for ABH for a domestic dispute, 210 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,440 but he was out six months ago. Since then no known address. 211 00:11:54,475 --> 00:11:55,965 Probation officer? 212 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Yes, he had one, but Andy never showed up for his appointments. 213 00:11:59,435 --> 00:12:01,845 So any known contacts? 214 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,685 His mother suffers from MS, 215 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,100 she's living in a home in Essex, dad's dead. 216 00:12:06,135 --> 00:12:08,445 Who was the domestic with? His ex-girlfriend. 217 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,320 We're trying to track her down. He also has a brother, Sam, 218 00:12:11,355 --> 00:12:12,760 who lives in Hackney. 219 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,805 Help yourself, look around. Make sure you check out 220 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,000 the other six bedrooms? Don't they need a warrant for this? 221 00:12:21,035 --> 00:12:23,040 Oi! Don't you need a warrant for this? 222 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,805 Do you smoke, Mr Bishop? 223 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Used to. Gave up when the bird got bumped. The bird? 224 00:12:31,195 --> 00:12:32,325 You sure about that? 225 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,200 I have a spliff now and again. Y'know, just personal use. 226 00:12:35,235 --> 00:12:37,325 And have you seen your brother lately? 227 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,360 I knew this was about Andy. Didn't I tell - 228 00:12:39,395 --> 00:12:41,837 Have you seen your brother, Mr Bishop? 229 00:12:41,872 --> 00:12:44,245 Not since he got out of prison, why? Why?! 230 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Did you miss the news this morning? Cos we think he's killed four people 231 00:12:47,955 --> 00:12:50,520 and then gone on the run with a loaded gun, that's why. 232 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,805 Has he scored since his release? How would I know? 233 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,605 He's a dope-head and the first thing he would have done 234 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,840 after getting out is come to see someone who could offer him a toke. 235 00:13:00,875 --> 00:13:02,885 You need a warrant. I've seen it on TV. 236 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,525 Unless you've got something useful to say, shut up. 237 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:08,760 Oi, don't tell her to shut up! What're you going to do? Sam? Eh? 238 00:13:08,795 --> 00:13:11,160 Big man in front of his girlfriend. 239 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Just tell us where your brother is. 240 00:13:17,075 --> 00:13:19,000 I don't know, I swear to god. 241 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,880 OK, what's the name of his dealer? 242 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,180 Just give us a name, then we'll be on our way 243 00:13:26,215 --> 00:13:28,405 and we'll leave you to your domestic bliss. 244 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,720 Or we can continue this conversation down the station. Both of you. 245 00:13:31,755 --> 00:13:34,325 Oh, no way, you're 'aving a laugh, aren't you? 246 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,360 I ain't going like this. I need to take a piss every 30 seconds. 247 00:13:37,395 --> 00:13:39,600 Babe, don't - Don't 'babe' me. 248 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,480 Kyle Branning. He gets his gear off Kyle Branning. 249 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,800 (HEAVY THUMP) 250 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,520 Kyle Branning? Yeah. 251 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,980 Sit down, son, before you fall down. 252 00:13:59,015 --> 00:14:01,325 Do you supply Andy Bishop? Who? 253 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Andy Bishop. Big bloke, 'bout 30, does he score his gear from you? 254 00:14:04,675 --> 00:14:07,445 You're going down for a long time, Kyle, with all this, 255 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,640 so the more helpful you are now the less painful it will be. 256 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,205 How old are you, son? 19. 257 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,200 You ever been in a prison, Kyle? 258 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,420 That bloke we nicked, Ron. Big fella, 259 00:14:18,455 --> 00:14:20,445 doing ten years for armed robbery. 260 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,840 He eats boys like you for breakfast. No, he don't eat them, he - 261 00:14:23,875 --> 00:14:25,805 Yes, Ron, I think we got the picture. 262 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,960 All right. He gets some weed off me. Sometimes. 263 00:14:28,995 --> 00:14:30,960 Good lad. Anything else? 264 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Kyle? Don't make me play bad cop. 265 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,360 You wouldn't like him when he plays bad cop. 266 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,685 He didn't pay for it. What? You want to report a theft? 267 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,800 No. He said he didn't have no cash, and I said I don't do credit, 268 00:14:48,835 --> 00:14:54,040 and then he pulled a gun. SIG Sauer P226. 269 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,320 What? I like army stuff. 270 00:15:00,355 --> 00:15:02,297 And when was this? 271 00:15:02,332 --> 00:15:04,240 Day before yesterday. 272 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,120 'I like army stuff.' How do kids like that function in the world? 273 00:15:08,155 --> 00:15:11,000 He doesn't, does he? He's living in a smoke-filled bubble. 274 00:15:11,035 --> 00:15:13,245 (PHONE RINGS) I'll get on to ballistics. 275 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,960 Find out where army issue knockoffs are being traded. 276 00:15:15,995 --> 00:15:17,965 Hello, Devlin. 277 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,240 Another hit, on a newsagent, Shoreditch. 278 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,320 You called us here for these two? I heard on the radio male-female team. 279 00:15:24,355 --> 00:15:26,165 We said they were through puberty! 280 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,205 I called you as soon as he called me. They were shop-lifting! 281 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,440 She gets me to reach for something at the back of my shop, then he nick my fags. 282 00:15:33,475 --> 00:15:35,165 You shouldn't even be smoking. 283 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,840 We don't. They're bad for you. We sell 'em at school to the year tens. 284 00:15:38,875 --> 00:15:40,965 You better stop watching The Apprentice. 285 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Are you gonna nick 'em? I want justice! Not today, Rhiz. 286 00:15:44,115 --> 00:15:46,080 Check next time, yeah? 287 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Ronnie? You sell Old St Louis tobacco? 288 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Yeah, so? 289 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,300 What do you think you're doing? 290 00:15:57,335 --> 00:15:59,045 We told you, we haven't seen him. 291 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,440 You told us you didn't smoke! What's that got to do with anything? 292 00:16:02,475 --> 00:16:04,965 Well you see, I can smell tobacco in here, 293 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,740 which isn't the smell of a now-and-again spliff, 294 00:16:07,775 --> 00:16:10,445 so if you're not smoking the tobacco, who is? 295 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,400 It's next door. I tell them to stop but they won't listen. 296 00:16:13,435 --> 00:16:15,857 How long do you think we've been doing this? 297 00:16:15,892 --> 00:16:18,245 This is harassment. I am pregnant, you know. 298 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,120 We can see that, but do you know what I find very strange? 299 00:16:21,155 --> 00:16:23,917 It's laundry day, and not one item belonging to you 300 00:16:23,952 --> 00:16:26,680 is on these clothes horses. So, where do you live? 301 00:16:26,715 --> 00:16:28,565 What're you talking about? 302 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,560 Cos you don't live here, do you? 303 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,360 Brewer Street. Ten minutes walk from here. 304 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,640 Armed police, stay where you are! Armed police! 305 00:16:40,675 --> 00:16:42,600 Room clear! Room clear. 306 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,405 Nobody home. 307 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,325 They ran out of booze. 308 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Maybe they went to some more. Well, I would've. 309 00:16:49,795 --> 00:16:52,160 We just passed one round the corner. Right. 310 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,560 You up for this? Oh yeah. Let's go. 311 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,120 (TYRES SQUEAL) 312 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Got any bread? I dunno. 313 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,600 All right Andy. You OK? I just want to talk to you for a minute. 314 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,220 Get on the floor. Take it easy - 315 00:17:38,255 --> 00:17:40,520 Get on the floor! Now! (SHOUTING) 316 00:17:40,555 --> 00:17:42,085 I will shoot you! 317 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:45,040 Listen, Andy, no one wants to shoot anyone here. All right? 318 00:17:45,075 --> 00:17:48,037 Now, it's over. Andy? Look at me, son? It's over mate. 319 00:17:48,072 --> 00:17:51,000 Just put the gun down. Let's end this properly, come on. 320 00:17:51,035 --> 00:17:53,445 It's over. I'm not going back to prison! 321 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,605 Andy! Look at me! I don't want you to get shot here, son, 322 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,280 and you don't really want to shoot me, so, let's all just take a breath, 323 00:18:00,315 --> 00:18:02,605 and calm down. I was just protecting her! 324 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,120 It's over mate. Just think about this. You're a war hero, all right? 325 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,200 A war hero. Bags of respect, you've been decorated. 326 00:18:11,235 --> 00:18:13,560 You don't want it to end drunk in some - 327 00:18:13,595 --> 00:18:15,520 (GUNSHOT) (SQUEAL) 328 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,360 Put the gun down! Put it down! Get on the floor! On the floor! 329 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840 (SOBS) 330 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,320 Thank you so much, thank you so much. 331 00:18:31,355 --> 00:18:33,320 OK. It's over. Up you get. 332 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,325 Her name's Joanne Vickery and she's Andy Bishop's ex, 333 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,820 but she claims he kidnapped her when he got out of prison. 334 00:18:45,855 --> 00:18:49,280 Any truth in that story? Well, her nan's in there with her, 335 00:18:49,315 --> 00:18:51,720 and she says she hasn't seen her in six months. 336 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,560 I don't understand. My granddaughter's just been rescued, 337 00:18:59,595 --> 00:19:02,005 why are we in a police station? Mrs Vickery, 338 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,120 your granddaughter's been arrested. What for? She's done nothing wrong. 339 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,600 Joanne, would you tell the CPS what you told me earlier? 340 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Andy came round my house, after he was released, 341 00:19:18,755 --> 00:19:23,120 and he said that we was gonna be together. 342 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,480 I was really scared because he could lose it. 343 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,000 I said to him that I was seeing someone else, 344 00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:32,965 just to get rid of him. But he went mad, 345 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,680 and he dragged me back to his car, and he said that - 346 00:19:35,715 --> 00:19:38,445 He used to beat her all the time. 347 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,980 That's why he was banged up, for breaking her jaw. 348 00:19:41,015 --> 00:19:43,480 When did you start going out with him? I was 17. 349 00:19:43,515 --> 00:19:46,160 She was still a kid. She didn't understand 350 00:19:46,195 --> 00:19:48,160 what sort of an animal he was. 351 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,605 Can I take her home now? 352 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,880 No, Mrs Vickery. Joanne's being charged with five counts of murder. 353 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,360 You're happy with the indictment? Absolutely. Five counts of murder, 354 00:20:11,395 --> 00:20:14,377 four on a joint enterprise. We know she shot Andy Bishop, 355 00:20:14,412 --> 00:20:17,406 she was holding the smoking gun. But you're not so sure? 356 00:20:17,441 --> 00:20:20,365 Well, if you buy the kidnap story, shooting Andy Bishop 357 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,685 could be argued as manslaughter by virtue of loss of control. 358 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000 And are we buying the kidnap story? Well, according to Joanne's nan 359 00:20:27,035 --> 00:20:28,765 he charmed his way in at 17 360 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,045 and then took control of every part of her life. 361 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,920 He's had her emotionally locked away for years. Hang on, 362 00:20:33,955 --> 00:20:36,565 the woman carried a loaded gun around London 363 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,845 and watched four people murdered without doing a thing. 364 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Yes, watched, that's the joint enterprise. She's guilty of that. 365 00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:45,845 She did nothing to stop him. 366 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,285 But she - Resulting in the deaths of four people. 367 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Shooting Andy Bishop could be seen as the result of domestic violence. 368 00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:56,200 That makes it less clear-cut. 'Less clear-cut' always worries me. 369 00:20:56,235 --> 00:20:59,760 Joanne Vickery did not stab Andy Bishop with a kitchen knife 370 00:20:59,795 --> 00:21:02,325 or even beat him with lead-piping in the library. 371 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:05,560 She shot him in an off-licence surrounded by armed police. 372 00:21:05,595 --> 00:21:08,405 That's not loss of control, that's a choice. 373 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,725 But would she have a loaded gun if she didn't know Andy Bishop? 374 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,720 If the public see her as a victim you'll struggle to get murder through to a jury. 375 00:21:15,755 --> 00:21:18,617 So we need to make sure that doesn't happen. 376 00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:21,480 Time to put away the liberal textbooks. (SIGHS) 377 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,500 So, Robin, how's your new Batman? 378 00:21:30,535 --> 00:21:33,245 Great. We're a...dynamic duo. 379 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,940 Rubbish. He's driving you mad, I can see it in your eyes. 380 00:21:36,975 --> 00:21:40,600 Don't worry, you'll fall for him. All his assistants do. 381 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Well, when I see his 'assistant' I'll tell her. 382 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,845 Phyllis, what do we have to talk about? 383 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,360 Well, I'm guessing that you both missed the first class in law school 384 00:21:53,395 --> 00:21:56,440 when they distinguished between the criminal and the victim. 385 00:21:56,475 --> 00:21:59,360 Cute. If Andy Bishop were still with us 386 00:21:59,395 --> 00:22:01,125 I'd happily prosecute him as well. 387 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,240 And as he isn't you're happy putting his victim in the dock instead? 388 00:22:05,275 --> 00:22:07,757 It's murder, Phyl. She stood by, holding a gun, 389 00:22:07,792 --> 00:22:10,205 and did nothing where four people were shot. 390 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,100 She deserves to get life. She's not guilty of anything. 391 00:22:13,135 --> 00:22:15,925 You should drop all the charges. Never gonna happen. 392 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,460 She was key to the crime by holding a gun and intimidating people. 393 00:22:19,495 --> 00:22:22,960 Joanne was systematically abused by Bishop in a one-sided relationship 394 00:22:22,995 --> 00:22:26,445 since she was 17. He dictated who her friends were, 395 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 where she went, what she did - This is not a poster-girl 396 00:22:29,515 --> 00:22:31,497 for the fight against domestic violence. 397 00:22:31,532 --> 00:22:33,445 She shot Bishop at point blank range. 398 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,040 She had no idea the gun was loaded. She was surprised when it went off. 399 00:22:37,075 --> 00:22:42,800 So why did she pull the trigger? She was nervous, trembling, 400 00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:45,517 wanted to get away, there could be a hundred reasons. 401 00:22:45,552 --> 00:22:48,176 We only want one. Her gun was loaded in the Moon Club, 402 00:22:48,211 --> 00:22:50,705 the off-licence, and while driving around Hackney. 403 00:22:50,740 --> 00:22:53,200 Who knows how many more deaths there may have been 404 00:22:53,235 --> 00:22:55,337 if her gun 'went off' somewhere else? 405 00:22:55,372 --> 00:22:57,405 OK, we have ourselves a ball game. 406 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,605 She was not in control of her actions, 407 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,800 had not a clue what his intentions were and was psychologically harmed. 408 00:23:04,835 --> 00:23:08,520 If you're questioning her mental state, she sees our psychiatrist. 409 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,760 All my mum cared about was her next boyfriend. 410 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,045 Most of them would get bored of her eventually 411 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,720 and then they'd try it on with me. I just wanted someone to protect me. 412 00:23:23,755 --> 00:23:27,760 And Andy did that? Yeah, I loved him. 413 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,200 We used to talk about running away together. 414 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,560 Flying to Vegas, getting married. 415 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,320 But we never did. 416 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,880 And Andy broke your jaw, didn't he? 417 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,680 Joanne, why did he hit you? 418 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,200 He always did when I done something wrong. The drink just made it worse. 419 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,280 And why did you go along to the Moon Club? 420 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,840 I had to. I knew what he could be like when he got angry. 421 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,800 I never thought he'd kill no-one. 422 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,320 Least we was together. 423 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,680 You felt closer to him by doing this? 424 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,200 I thought if I went along with it, he'd come back to me. 425 00:24:17,235 --> 00:24:21,680 Like, be the Andy I knew when I first met him. 426 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,085 I still loved him. 427 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:26,080 Did you ever not love him? 428 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,240 Don't think so. Not even when he broke your jaw? 429 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,480 Put you in hospital? 430 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,320 No. 431 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,320 I believe she was a willing participant, 432 00:24:42,355 --> 00:24:44,417 but not for the reasons we've assumed. 433 00:24:44,452 --> 00:24:46,445 She was scared of him but she also wanted 434 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,760 to turn Andy Bishop back into the hero she first went out with. 435 00:24:49,795 --> 00:24:52,000 So she was with him because she still loved him, 436 00:24:52,035 --> 00:24:54,317 not because she was terrified for her life? 437 00:24:54,352 --> 00:24:56,816 With their kind of relationship it's difficult 438 00:24:56,851 --> 00:24:59,280 to distinguish between the two. It's a fine line. 439 00:24:59,315 --> 00:25:01,360 But a line we're on the right side of? 440 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,560 I'm not sure. Not without spending a lot more time assessing her. 441 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,360 That's not quite the unequivocal 'yes' I was hoping for. 442 00:25:09,395 --> 00:25:11,320 There's maybe something else. 443 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,480 She claims she called the police. To warn them. 444 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,080 There was a lot of crying from her. This place was heaving, 445 00:25:22,115 --> 00:25:24,280 phones going, people shouting, you know. 446 00:25:24,315 --> 00:25:25,845 But did mention Andy Bishop? 447 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,605 I had no idea what she was saying to start with. 448 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600 Then she said her name was Maggie, that got my attention. 449 00:25:31,635 --> 00:25:34,160 There was a lot more crying and then she said 450 00:25:34,195 --> 00:25:36,165 something along the lines of 451 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,365 'He's coming back, I've gotta go.' Then the phone went dead. 452 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,320 And this was after the details of the masks had been revealed? Yeah. 453 00:25:43,355 --> 00:25:46,157 Was it recorded? For training purposes, so they say. 454 00:25:46,192 --> 00:25:48,960 God knows what anyone could've learnt from that. 455 00:25:48,995 --> 00:25:50,920 You've tried tracing it? 456 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,760 Yes. But we got to a pay-as-you-go number, and that was unregistered. 457 00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:57,645 Were there any other calls like this? 458 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Well, not to me, but I haven't checked all of the call logs. 459 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,160 Thank you, Detective Brooks. That's all I need. 460 00:26:04,195 --> 00:26:06,080 Hammers supporter? Yeah. 461 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Unlucky. 462 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Let's do a bit of digging and see just how many Maggies 463 00:26:14,835 --> 00:26:16,605 called the police that morning. 464 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,000 And what if it was Joanne? If they can't prove it, they can't use it. 465 00:26:21,035 --> 00:26:24,165 Even if we think it was her? She called herself Maggie. 466 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,720 But that's because she knew how she was being represented on the news! 467 00:26:27,755 --> 00:26:29,765 Or because it wasn't Joanne. 468 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Maybe we should consider taking a plea to manslaughter. 469 00:26:32,755 --> 00:26:35,337 Then the jury could acquit her for everything. 470 00:26:35,372 --> 00:26:37,920 I'm still not convinced that she's a murderer. 471 00:26:37,955 --> 00:26:40,245 She didn't shoot Andy Bishop by accident. 472 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,440 No, she shot him because she wasn't in control of her actions! 473 00:26:43,475 --> 00:26:46,040 What, that very moment? I just don't believe it. 474 00:26:46,075 --> 00:26:47,845 Look, Jake, just admit it, 475 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,005 the jury will think that Joanne has already done our job for us. 476 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,640 So you're saying that she wouldn't have done any of this without him? 477 00:26:54,675 --> 00:26:57,317 Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. 478 00:26:57,352 --> 00:26:59,925 So what about Hindley? Or Maxine Carr? 479 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,280 Criminal history is full of women who have been bent and twisted 480 00:27:03,315 --> 00:27:06,325 by an abusive partner but every jury has put them away 481 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:10,600 because they all thought the same four words, 'They had a choice.' 482 00:27:10,635 --> 00:27:12,977 However tough, they could've said no. 483 00:27:13,012 --> 00:27:15,285 Is there any shade of grey in your world? 484 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,485 Course there is. On a Saturday night in the pub over a pint, 485 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600 but look at what happened. She killed him when she didn't have to. 486 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Wrap it up in as much sympathy as you like, that's still murder. 487 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,805 It is a clear demonstration of remorse, 488 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,880 a signal she was trying to escape her captor 489 00:27:36,881 --> 00:27:38,920 and bring this terrible tragedy to an end. 490 00:27:38,955 --> 00:27:42,280 Can I ask my learned friend not to refer to Miss Vickery's boyfriend 491 00:27:42,315 --> 00:27:45,440 as her 'captor?' They were living together in a relationship. 492 00:27:45,475 --> 00:27:47,760 Whatever I call him the story remains the same, 493 00:27:47,795 --> 00:27:49,605 she was there against her will. 494 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,405 Was it against her will that they went 495 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,420 to the Odeon cinema on Wednesday the 17th of last month, 496 00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:57,400 or the Slug And Lettuce the week before? I could go on. 497 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,925 And on. All at his demand. 498 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,840 My lord, there were 22 calls to the police station that day 499 00:28:02,875 --> 00:28:04,965 from people claiming to be Maggie Thatcher. 500 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,360 And I can't believe anyone would willingly claim 501 00:28:07,395 --> 00:28:09,165 to be The Thatch unless a little - 502 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,120 Thank you, Mr Thorne, let's leave party political broadcasts outside. 503 00:28:13,155 --> 00:28:16,360 I have an expert witness who has provided a statement 504 00:28:16,395 --> 00:28:18,885 confirming there is a moderate proposition 505 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,765 that the voice on the recording is Joanne Vickery. 506 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520 I have it here. And I have an expert witness who has provided a statement 507 00:28:25,555 --> 00:28:28,957 confirming there is a moderate proposition that it isn't. 508 00:28:28,992 --> 00:28:32,156 And again. My lord, the prejudicial value of this phone call 509 00:28:32,191 --> 00:28:35,320 gives her story a bias which this court must find unfair. 510 00:28:35,355 --> 00:28:37,757 It outweighs the probative value - I disagree. 511 00:28:37,792 --> 00:28:40,125 This is a matter for the - Miss Gladstone, 512 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,840 I've read both reports and I have to side with Mr Thorne here. 513 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,845 If it was a crank, it could sway the jury unfairly. 514 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,120 I'm ruling that the recording of any calls is inadmissible. 515 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,880 My lord. Thank you, unless you have anything further? 516 00:28:55,915 --> 00:28:57,677 No, my lord. 517 00:28:57,712 --> 00:28:59,440 Court will rise. 518 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,685 Well done. (CLEARS THROAT) 519 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Once more with feeling, Miss Phillips. 520 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,325 I'm not naive, Jake. Murder or manslaughter, 521 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,920 I know we need the strongest possible case to win. 522 00:29:14,955 --> 00:29:16,840 And do you? What? 523 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,080 Want to win? Yes. It's important to him. 524 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960 That makes it important to us. 525 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,200 Spoken like a true public servant. 526 00:29:27,235 --> 00:29:29,160 Shut up and buy me lunch. 527 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,200 Behind that latex mask is Joanne Vickery. That is not in dispute. 528 00:29:36,235 --> 00:29:39,280 Nor is it in dispute that she alone pulled the trigger 529 00:29:39,315 --> 00:29:41,765 and fired the gun that killed Andy Bishop. 530 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,885 Did she do us all a favour? Some of you may think so 531 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,360 but the truth is this: the law sees what she did as murder. 532 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,440 And so too must you. The defence will paint Joanne Vickery 533 00:29:53,475 --> 00:29:56,280 as a victim. They will play on your sympathies, 534 00:29:56,315 --> 00:29:58,520 tug on your heart-strings. 535 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,200 Do not let them cloud your judgment. Do not be influenced by sentiment. 536 00:30:03,235 --> 00:30:06,365 The real victims are not able to be here 537 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,520 but their relatives are sat behind me at the back of this court 538 00:30:10,555 --> 00:30:12,960 hoping you will make the right choice. 539 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,085 They know she is not a victim. 540 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,805 She could've stopped all this from happening. 541 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:25,680 So, she is here facing five - five - charges of murder. 542 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,280 If you remember nothing else during this trial, remember this: 543 00:30:32,315 --> 00:30:36,040 one or more of those innocent victims would still be here today 544 00:30:36,075 --> 00:30:38,857 if Joanne had acted sooner. 545 00:30:38,892 --> 00:30:41,605 Their deaths are on her hands. 546 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,765 Could you rewind to the front of the clip, please? 547 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,640 (CLEARS THROAT) I will paint Joanne Vickery as a victim. 548 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,960 Do you know why? Because that is the real picture. 549 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Look at her. Clearly trembling with fear. Out of her depth, frightened, 550 00:31:00,835 --> 00:31:03,437 scared for her life that the man in front of her, 551 00:31:03,472 --> 00:31:06,005 who claimed to love her and yet regularly beat her 552 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,040 hard enough to send her to hospital, would turn the gun on her. 553 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,840 The deaths of four people in the early hours of that tragic day 554 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:19,165 are a heinous crime, and I wish the true criminal 555 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,000 could receive just punishment. But that can never happen. 556 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,720 Why? Because Andy Bishop is dead. 557 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:36,845 My client, after years of being trampled on and destroyed 558 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:43,000 as a person, stood up to an abusive, violent, controlling man. 559 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,805 Who knows how many more innocent people she saved 560 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,280 by acting as she did, stopping a mad, gun-wielding psychopath 561 00:31:51,315 --> 00:31:53,397 in his tracks. 562 00:31:53,432 --> 00:31:55,445 Look at her. 563 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120 His most innocent victim. 564 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400 Are you worried the jury is already siding against you? 565 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560 Phyllis fought hard to present her opening speech 566 00:32:21,595 --> 00:32:24,200 immediately after mine. I can see why now. 567 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,520 Let's hope losing that little battle didn't cost you the war. 568 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280 I think Judge Redford wanted to level the playing field 569 00:32:33,315 --> 00:32:35,400 after excluding the Maggie phone call. 570 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,400 You pushed for murder when you could have 571 00:32:39,435 --> 00:32:41,885 considered a plea to manslaughter. 572 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,045 Are you slapping my wrist? Checking you know what you're doing. 573 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,880 This is an extremely high-profile case that we're at risk of losing. 574 00:32:48,915 --> 00:32:50,800 Worried about our reputation? No. 575 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,720 I'm worried about yours. Don't lean on our friendship, Jake. 576 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,180 The DPP has told me he's keeping a close eye on you, 577 00:33:00,215 --> 00:33:02,965 new kid on the block and all that. If Joanne Vickery 578 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,400 is acquitted, you could end up losing a lot more than this case. 579 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,880 I believe she should go down for murder. But can you win with that? 580 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160 Yes. 581 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,840 Good, because you need a few more victories under your belt. 582 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,400 Blow this and you could be out on your ear before you've really begun. 583 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,720 Mr Bishop, would you raise your right hand? 584 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,480 Could you turn it around so the jury can see the back? 585 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,480 Is that a scar? 586 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,805 Yeah. 587 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,685 How did you get it? Andy stabbed me with a fork. 588 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,600 Why did he do that? Because I wouldn't give him the remote. 589 00:33:54,635 --> 00:33:56,560 The remote for the television? 590 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,005 After he stabbed you in the hand, 591 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,960 who looked after the remote in your flat? 592 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,445 Andy. 593 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,525 How much do you weigh? 594 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,560 I don't know. 13, 13½ stone. 595 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,765 Any idea how much Miss Vickery weighs? 596 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200 Please, my lord, relevance of the witnesses vital statistics? 597 00:34:18,235 --> 00:34:21,997 I'll tell you. She weighs seven stone, four pounds. 598 00:34:22,032 --> 00:34:25,760 Almost half your weight. Your brother stabs you once 599 00:34:25,795 --> 00:34:29,600 and you do whatever he says, is that right? 600 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,200 Yeah. Absolutely. 601 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,440 Absolutely. 602 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,800 No further questions. 603 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,400 Andy seemed like a nice lad at first. Always looking out for her. 604 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,200 How did the relationship develop? 605 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,460 They moved in together when she was 19. 606 00:34:57,495 --> 00:35:00,320 After that we saw less and less of her. 607 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,600 And when... and when we did she'd always have a new bruise 608 00:35:04,635 --> 00:35:07,120 over her eyes or cuts on her arms. 609 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,600 And when he broke her jaw? 610 00:35:11,635 --> 00:35:13,720 He'd been on a bender. 611 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,280 We went to the hospital to see her. You were in such a terrible state. 612 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,480 And she swore never again. He went to prison for it. 613 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,120 Thank you. 614 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,765 Mrs Vickery, did your granddaughter 615 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,160 give evidence at Andy Bishop's ABH trial? 616 00:35:35,195 --> 00:35:36,965 Yes, eventually. 617 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,765 So, she stood up to him? 618 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,160 It took us ages to convince her and still she wasn't happy about it. 619 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,520 Terrified at what he'd do if he was let off. 620 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,760 But, however hard it was, she still finally 621 00:35:49,795 --> 00:35:52,525 stood up to him and helped put him away? Yes. 622 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,680 'Fresh start' you said. Away from Andy. She stopped dying her hair, 623 00:35:58,715 --> 00:36:00,797 she went on a diet. 624 00:36:00,832 --> 00:36:02,880 She looked lovely. 625 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,485 She wanted to go back to college 626 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,960 cos she left school before she got her exams. 627 00:36:08,995 --> 00:36:10,920 She was suspended, wasn't she? 628 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,800 From one school. For extended truancy? 629 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,440 She ran away. Said she'd got some work in a club in town, somewhere. 630 00:36:20,475 --> 00:36:22,880 She was back after a few weeks. 631 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,045 So, she didn't hate her life at home that much? 632 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,960 It was her mum. She wouldn't abandon her... she loved her. 633 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,285 What, like she loved Andy Bishop? I mean, let's be honest, 634 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,160 Joanne was never going to get a fresh start, was she, Mrs Vickery? 635 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,560 However much she changed her hair style, 636 00:36:44,595 --> 00:36:46,525 she was always going to go back to him 637 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,280 because she deluded herself that she could change him. 638 00:36:49,315 --> 00:36:51,160 Truth is, she would have done anything 639 00:36:51,195 --> 00:36:52,885 to prove that she loved him, 640 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,600 including helping in the abduction and murder of an innocent bystander 641 00:36:56,635 --> 00:37:00,280 and the cold-blooded shooting of three other members of the public. 642 00:37:00,315 --> 00:37:02,325 I don't think Mrs Vickery likes you. 643 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,880 That's OK, we're not paid to be liked. Good job. 644 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,480 Do we have a picture of Joanne Vickery before she had her makeover? 645 00:37:09,515 --> 00:37:11,520 Don't know. Sure we can get hold of one. 646 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,760 Look, the police showed me this. I'd never seen Joanne before the trial. 647 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,285 You are sure? 648 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,760 We get a lot of staff turnover, Miss Phillips. 649 00:37:23,795 --> 00:37:25,760 Just for a few weeks about six years ago. 650 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,800 Look, believe me, if I could help you, I would. 651 00:37:29,835 --> 00:37:31,760 Since Helen... 652 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,760 Look, I don't even want to be here. 653 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,920 This place, it's all her. I just want to pack a bag and leave 654 00:37:39,955 --> 00:37:41,880 but I can't. 655 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,240 Because this place, it's all her. 656 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,520 It's all I have left. 657 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,800 What about this one? 658 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,240 It was taken around the time she may have worked here. 659 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,840 That's the same girl? Yes. Joanne Vickery. 660 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,600 She was 16 at the time. 661 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,085 This is really great work. 662 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,885 See this? Pretty face. Me, more than. 663 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,040 Yeah, I'm getting that. Why didn't you take me with you? 664 00:38:25,075 --> 00:38:26,765 To a club? 665 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,760 You haven't seen me on a dance floor. I can throw some shapes. 666 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,800 Let's see how she reacts to this in court. 667 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,000 You seemed to be living as a very affectionate couple. 668 00:38:42,035 --> 00:38:45,077 Cinema visits, Friday night at the local curry house. 669 00:38:45,112 --> 00:38:48,120 I had to pretend. Otherwise he'd have really hurt me. 670 00:38:48,155 --> 00:38:50,045 You're that good at pretending? 671 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,240 If you're worried about getting a smack in the mouth, you get pretty good at it, yeah. 672 00:38:54,275 --> 00:38:57,800 Are you pretending now? Why? Are you going to smack me in the mouth? 673 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960 Why did you go with him? Were you excited by the idea? 674 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,720 No. He made me go. I was terrified. 675 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,320 Really? You weren't turned on just a little bit 676 00:39:13,355 --> 00:39:16,400 by the power you had when you were with him? 677 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,000 I never wanted him to shoot anyone. 678 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,600 So what did you want? 679 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,680 I just thought we was gonna to rob the place. 680 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920 And how did you feel when he shot Napalm? 681 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,760 I felt sick. 682 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,280 You know who Napalm is? 683 00:39:36,315 --> 00:39:38,160 Yeah, he's the barman. 684 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,560 Yet we've only ever referred to him in this court as Mr Palmer. 685 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,440 Tell the jury how you know the barman well enough 686 00:39:48,475 --> 00:39:50,400 to recognise his nickname. 687 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,605 Did you not work at the Moon Club 688 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,880 when you ran away from home six years ago? 689 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960 You knew how they cashed up and where they kept the money, 690 00:40:01,995 --> 00:40:02,920 didn't you? 691 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,240 Miss Vickery, you are under oath. 692 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:15,000 Yes, yeah, I worked there for about three weeks. 693 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,640 Why were you fired? I wasn't fired. 694 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:22,000 Didn't Mr Palmer discover your real age and have you fired? 695 00:40:22,035 --> 00:40:25,720 He didn't fire me. I ran away. 696 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,320 Back home? Yes. 697 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,720 But you'd just run away from home. I don't understand. 698 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,205 Me and Napalm went out for a bit. 699 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,960 But he dumped me after we'd, y'know... 700 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,760 After you'd slept together? 701 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,600 He told me he loved me and then he just ignored me. 702 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,640 I wanted to carry on but he said if I didn't leave him alone 703 00:40:51,675 --> 00:40:53,600 he'd tell the boss my real age. 704 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,680 You told Andy Bishop, didn't you? 705 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,720 You told Andy what Nathan Palmer had done. 706 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,880 When did you tell him? 707 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:17,880 We was having an argument. Andy always thought that he was my first. 708 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080 I wanted to hurt him so I told him he wasn't. 709 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,840 I told him about Napalm. About Nathan. 710 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,240 Miss Vickery, when did you tell Andy this story? 711 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,480 The night before it all kicked off. 712 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,560 I only thought he was going to scare him, I swear. 713 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840 And that's what you wanted, wasn't it? 714 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,600 To get your own back on an ex-boyfriend for hurting you 715 00:41:50,635 --> 00:41:53,885 all those years ago. You told a dangerous, violent man, 716 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,320 about your first sexual partner because you wanted to hurt him. 717 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,560 You knew what he would do when you told him the story 718 00:42:02,595 --> 00:42:04,440 about the Moon Club, didn't you? 719 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,840 You knew he'd react like this. 720 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560 None of those people would have been murdered, 721 00:42:13,595 --> 00:42:15,280 if you hadn't lit the fuse. 722 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,240 No further questions. 723 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,440 Last chance before the closing speeches. 724 00:42:28,475 --> 00:42:30,840 Drop murder and we'll plead to manslaughter. 725 00:42:30,875 --> 00:42:32,725 You still think you have a case left? 726 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,000 Jacob, hasn't she suffered enough? Why does she have to get life? 727 00:42:36,035 --> 00:42:38,245 She knew how dangerous Andy Bishop could be 728 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,640 but she used Nathan Palmer's name as leverage during a domestic. 729 00:42:41,675 --> 00:42:44,337 She didn't know he was going to kill him. Yes, she did. 730 00:42:44,372 --> 00:42:47,000 Or at least she knew he'd try. She wanted to punish 731 00:42:47,035 --> 00:42:49,365 all the men in her life who'd caused her pain. 732 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,725 I can understand that. She saw her opportunity and she took it. 733 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,440 She didn't care how many Helen Shanes or Claire Bowyers got in the way. 734 00:42:56,475 --> 00:42:58,640 To her they were just collateral damage. 735 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,725 Members of the jury, in relation to count one 736 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,085 on the indictment alleging the murder of Helen Shane, 737 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,560 do you find the defendant, Joanne Vickery, guilty or not guilty? 738 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,360 Guilty. 739 00:43:16,395 --> 00:43:18,205 (GASPS) 740 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:21,840 In relation to count two on the indictment alleging the murder 741 00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:23,765 (VOICE FADES) of Nathan Palmer, 742 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,080 do you find the defendant, Joanne Vickery, guilty or not guilty? 743 00:43:28,115 --> 00:43:29,085 Guilty. 744 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,080 (COURT PROCEEDINGS FADE OUT) 745 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,165 Phyllis is not letting this one go. 746 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,760 She's getting a whole new psych evaluation done. 747 00:43:44,795 --> 00:43:47,257 A file this thick to put forward in mitigation. 748 00:43:47,292 --> 00:43:50,166 You don't have to fight it if you don't want to. 749 00:43:50,201 --> 00:43:53,040 Let one of the juniors step-up, that's how I learnt. 750 00:43:53,075 --> 00:43:55,000 No, I do want to. 751 00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:01,720 Helen. Claire. Armin. Nathan. 752 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,520 All of them had lives left to lead. What a waste. 753 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,760 Jake, we won the case. Move on. 754 00:44:09,795 --> 00:44:11,720 What, like Frank Shane? 755 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,800 Sometimes, just winning isn't enough. 756 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:25,000 Sync and corrected by www.addic7ed.com 757 00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:29,600 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 64481

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