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In the criminal justice system,
the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups -
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the police who investigate crime
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and the Crown Prosecutors
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Big smile for Mummy, Tom.
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I never can get a shot
where they're both smiling.
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Must be nice though - twins always
have someone to play with.
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Only child?
Yeah.
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Got ours buy one get one free.
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Ryan!
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Ryan? Ryan!
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Are you OK?
No.
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My little boy's gone. He was just
there and someone's taken him.
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Oh, my God! Ryan! Ryan!
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Ryan!
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Ryan! Ryan!
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Ryan Stark. Two last week.
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He was on the merry-go-round
in the yellow car.
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His mum turned away
for no more than 30 seconds,
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looked back and he was gone.
Where's the ride operator?
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He's having a pub lunch. He left
his 15-year-old son in charge.
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Although he wasn't being in charge?
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He got distracted. He doesn't
remember the kid or the mum.
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Kayla? This is DS Ronnie Brooks.
Kayla Stark.
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Have you found Ryan yet? We've got
a team working very hard on it.
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The more you can tell us,
the quicker we can find him.
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Could Ryan have got down
from the ride by himself?
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I dunno, he's been on it loads of
times. No, he wouldn't just get off.
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Was anyone else with you?
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I was supposed to meet my ex, Jimmy,
but he never showed.
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Is Jimmy Ryan's Dad?
Yeah.
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And is that Ryan's toy?
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Yeah, he takes it everywhere.
Can't sleep without it.
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We could use that. The Police dogs
can pick up Ryan's scent from that.
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If you don't mind?
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Thanks.
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Try not to worry, we'll do our
very best to help you through it.
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Karen? Yep. Kayla, Karen will take
you home, and get a few things
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and we'll meet you
down at the station.
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Right.
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Snatching a kid from a ride
right in front of his own mum.
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This bastard's got balls.
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Yeah, and I know what I'd like to do
with them.
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How can a kid get snatched in front of
20 witnesses and no one see anything?
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You know what it's like
when you put your kid on a ride -
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they're having
the time of their life,
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you're just watching your own kid,
not anybody else's.
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I bet half the mums and dads
caught it on their phones.
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Get Ange
to go through all the photos
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and video footage
we can get our hands on.
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That'll be a problem. She's trawling
through all the CCTV footage.
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The dad was supposed
to make contact today.
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You know, this is probably
just a custody thing.
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The dad apparently had access
once a month,
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and he was meant to meet them
at the merry-go-round
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20 minutes before Ryan was snatched.
He never showed up.
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Maybe he did and she never saw him.
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Yeah, well, if the Dad did take
the kid, hopefully he's safe.
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Yeah, right, because dads never harm
their own kids, do they?
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All I'm saying, Matt,
is if this is a custody thing
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then he's gonna look after the kid,
take care of him.
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He couldn't have left the country
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the missing child alert
was actioned within the hour.
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Kayla's waiting in there.
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Karen's collected the kid's
toothbrush for DNA, just in case,
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but let's rule out Dad before
we consider any other options.
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You've gotta find him before
it gets dark. He hates the dark.
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Kayla, Ryan's dad, um...
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Jimmy.
Yeah, Jimmy.
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Has he ever missed a visit before?
No.
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He's always on at me
for extra visits.
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Do you think he might've taken Ryan?
He wouldn't.
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Well, maybe...maybe he felt he wasn't
getting enough time with Ryan.
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I dunno.
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And do you have a boyfriend now?
No.
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So it's just you and Ryannin the flat,
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and his dad comes and visits
once a month? Yeah.
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Look, Jimmy hasn't took Ryan.
He wouldn't.
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Have you got a mobile?
Course.
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Did you take any pictures today
of Ryan on the ride?
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No. My card's full.
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But you have photographs of Ryan
on there, yeah?
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Er, yeah. Um, I took...
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I took this one
last week. On his birthday.
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Ryan's father is Jimmy Burton, 25,
carpet fitter.
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Uniform's been round his flat
no one home.
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And his mobile goes straight to
answerphone,
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so does his home number.
So we're onto him.
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We've got a search out for his car
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and we've added his details
to Ryan's alert.
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If he did take his kid
and do a runner,
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someone must know
what he was planning to do.
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Maybe his best mate?
Or the Grandma.
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My Jimmy loves that boy enough
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for 10 dads.
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And only gets to see him
once a month? Yeah.
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Being away from your kids
can break a dad's heart.
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Break the gran's heart an' all.
But grandparents don't have rights.
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Why did Jimmy and Kayla split up?
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They was just kids themselves
when they had Ryan.
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They never stood a chance.
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So was the break up amicable?
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Well, the only thing
they argued about was Ryan.
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Jimmy wanted to see more of him.
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But Kayla didn't want that?
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She was all right about visits
till six months ago,
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and she cut Jimmy's access down
to once a month.
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And that upset Jimmy?
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He told me he'd had it
with her messing him about.
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He wanted it sorted.
Enough to take Ryan?
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No, no. He was doing it by the book.
He got himself a solicitor.
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To get more access?
To get custody.
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Oh, no. No, I know it looks bad
but I swear to God,
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Jimmy wouldn't do anything
to mess up his chances
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of getting Ryan for good.
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I reckon glamour gran's straight up.
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So do I, but maybe Jimmy
hasn't told her everything.
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If he takes that kid without Kayla's
permission, even for one day,
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the family court thing's
gonna go against him.
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Well, you don't know how it feels not
to be able to see your kids, Matt.
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No ta.
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Sarah still not returned your calls,
then? No.
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She's probably busy, eh?
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I've been through all the footage
covering the merry-go-round.
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This is Kayla and Ryan arriving.
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This is Kayla watching Ryan
on the ride.
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What about the ride itself, Ange?
Can you see Ryan on it?
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If we could, we'd know who took him.
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None of the cameras are clear enough
to see who's on it.
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And no sign of Jimmy Burton?
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I'm sorry.
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Ryan's on the "at risk" register.
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Five months ago, one of the Nursery
staff called social services
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after spotting some bruising
on his legs.
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Kayla claims that he got it
falling off the slide in the park.
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Last visit was a week ago.
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Ryan's case worker,
Bernice Bradley's on holiday,
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so you'll have to wait
for her last report
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but the rest are in there.
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Why aren't the reports filed
immediately after a visit?
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Bernie's got 15 cases on the go.
Can be a week or two
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before a caseworker gets time
to write a report.
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How long's Ryan been on
the register? Five months.
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He had some bruising
but we think it was accidental.
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Then why's he still on the register?
His mum's on her own,
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she's vulnerable.
In what way?
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She's young, inexperienced,
no family support.
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She needed some help.
What kind of help?
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We got her some parenting classes.
She's doing really well.
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So no major concerns
over Ryan's welfare?
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With a bit more support from us
she could be a really good mum.
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Why didn't Kayla tell us about
social services herself?
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Gov, her focus is on
getting her kid back.
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That's gonna be the last thing
on her mind.
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Any news on Jimmy?
No sign of him.
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You've spoken to his boss?
And his work colleagues.
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Everyone thinks he's
a thoroughly decent blokes. Gov,
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if he has got Ryan, maybe we can make
him see sense to bring the boy in.
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An appeal.
Yeah.
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That way
we can get to Jimmy directly.
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We don't want to scare him off too
much, he's already gone to ground.
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Don't worry. I'll get a psychologist
to phrase the appeal
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in such a way
that if Jimmy has got Ryan,
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he'll feel compelled
to bring him in.
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If you've got my Ryan,
you need to bring him back.
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We need him home with his family.
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He needs his mum.
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Please bring my baby back.
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Ladies and gents, we're not taking
any questions at this point.
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Thank you.
If you think you've seen Ryan,
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please give us a call at the police
incident room.
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And if you've got Ryan,
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Ryan's mum...and Dad
love him very, very much,
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so just pick up the phone.
That's all you have to do.
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We need Ryan back.
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Thank you very much.
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No questions today, thank you.
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You'll have plenty of chances
when we know a a bit more.
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Was I all right?
Yeah, you were great.
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Most people find it really tough.
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But did I look OK?
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Yeah.
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Are we sure
he's not just some nutter?
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Well, Reception checked his ID,
they reckon he's legit.
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Let's find out then, shall we?
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Have you found him yet?
Jimmy Burton? Yeah.
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Take a seat.
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I came
the minute I heard the appeal.
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Please tell me he's safe.
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Please tell me you've found my son.
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This is crazy.
Why do you think I'd take him?
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Kayla said she was meant to meet you
yesterday morning to collect Ryan.
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Today. Today I was meant to meet
him. She always gets it muddled up.
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Where were you yesterday, Jimmy? Your
boss told us you took the day off.
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I was driving up to Birmingham,
to meet this bloke. Dan Tyler.
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Dan runs this fathers' rights group.
He was gonna help me with my case.
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To get custody of Ryan?
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It was all right at first.
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Kayla let me take him
every time she wanted a night out.
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Every time there was a new bloke,
she wanted Ryan out the way.
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And what changed that?
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About six months ago
she stopped returning my calls.
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I went round her flat but she
wouldn't answer the door.
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After that, if I wanted to see Ryan
I had to meet her somewhere public.
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Like the merry-go-round?
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Cos we weren't married and she never
put me on the birth certificate,
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I got no rights to my own kid.
Can you believe that?
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Dad's alibi checks out,
he's in the clear.
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I've been on to the dog unit.
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The only scent that they picked up
must have been Kayla Stark's
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cos they followed it to the point
where she gets into one of our cars.
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Why didn't they pick up
Ryan's scent?
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Kayla claims she washed the toy
the night before Ryan went missing.
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If he'd held it all morning, the
dogs would have picked up his scent.
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When my Sarah was a kid,
she had this toy rabbit.
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Went everywhere with her,
ate with her, slept with her
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she watched the telly with it. Even
if she went on a bus, or in the car,
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or on a ride, who was sat in the seat
next to her all the time? Every time?
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That rabbit.
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So why wasn't this dinosaur
toy thing on the ride with Ryan?
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It fell off and I picked it up.
Why didn't you give him back to him?
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No, I couldn't.
The ride was going round.
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And Ryan didn't mind?
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No.
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You said he was very attached
to the toy.
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A lot of kids
would have screamed the place down
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had that happened to them.
He was enjoying the ride.
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Thing is, Kayla...no one remembers
Ryan being on the ride,
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or you putting him on it,
or you paying for it.
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We've looked at all the CCTV footage
for the area
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and we can see you, Kayla,
pushing the buggy,
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but we don't see Ryan in the buggy.
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I don't understand.
Of course he's in it.
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Have you erm,
have you found his dad yet?
236
00:13:09,983 --> 00:13:13,060
Cos I've been thinking, and I reckon
you might be right -
237
00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:15,458
I reckon that Jimmy
could've taken him.
238
00:13:16,777 --> 00:13:19,854
Jimmy's here at the station, Kayla.
He doesn't have Ryan.
239
00:13:19,854 --> 00:13:21,732
He might be lying.
240
00:13:22,931 --> 00:13:26,288
I mean he could've took him
up to his mum's. She hates me.
241
00:13:26,288 --> 00:13:28,766
She'd do anything to get back at me.
242
00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:32,362
The only scent that the dogs found
on the scene was yours.
243
00:13:32,362 --> 00:13:37,038
It's like Ryan was never there.
That's because I washed Dino, innit?
244
00:13:37,038 --> 00:13:41,074
But when the liaison officer took you
back to your flat to get your things,
245
00:13:41,074 --> 00:13:43,352
she took a couple of pillowcases
from Ryan's bed
246
00:13:43,352 --> 00:13:46,430
and the dogs didn't pick his scent up
on the ride or anywhere else.
247
00:13:46,430 --> 00:13:48,747
Well, I washed them too.
248
00:13:48,747 --> 00:13:51,305
Before you took Ryan out?
The night before.
249
00:13:51,305 --> 00:13:53,863
So where did Ryan sleep?
250
00:13:53,863 --> 00:13:58,219
We should be out there!
Looking for him!
251
00:13:58,219 --> 00:14:00,976
Could you take me, Ronnie?
252
00:14:00,976 --> 00:14:03,134
Maybe if we go somewhere
where I went before,
253
00:14:03,134 --> 00:14:07,051
maybe I can remember something,
or find something that might help!
254
00:14:08,569 --> 00:14:11,966
We got all the data off her phone,
and downloaded all the photos.
255
00:14:11,966 --> 00:14:13,685
There's 60 of them.
256
00:14:13,685 --> 00:14:17,042
Well, she said it was full.
No, the data card holds 500.
257
00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,958
Why would she lie about that?
258
00:14:20,958 --> 00:14:23,955
Any photographs of Ryan on there?
259
00:14:23,955 --> 00:14:27,952
Only the one she showed you.
The other 59 are of this bloke.
260
00:14:27,952 --> 00:14:31,349
Well, who's that? She said she didn't
have a boyfriend at the minute.
261
00:14:31,349 --> 00:14:33,027
Could be an ex.
262
00:14:33,027 --> 00:14:36,184
Yeah, but, I mean that is at Ryan's
birthday party last week.
263
00:14:36,184 --> 00:14:37,863
Surely she'd have mentioned him?
264
00:14:37,863 --> 00:14:40,221
We checked the internet access
on the phone.
265
00:14:40,221 --> 00:14:43,218
She visited this website
five times last week.
266
00:14:43,218 --> 00:14:45,975
It's a discussion thread
for illegal adoption.
267
00:14:45,975 --> 00:14:47,494
Oh, you're joking.
268
00:14:47,494 --> 00:14:49,812
She messaged a couple
of forum members too.
269
00:14:49,812 --> 00:14:53,169
Said she's got a two-year-old boy
who she can't look after anymore.
270
00:14:53,169 --> 00:14:56,326
So maybe Ryan was coming between her
and lover boy. Yeah.
271
00:14:56,326 --> 00:14:57,845
If she didn't want him anymore,
272
00:14:57,845 --> 00:15:00,842
why didn't she just give him back
to his dad? He wanted custody.
273
00:15:00,842 --> 00:15:03,240
Spite maybe.
274
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,277
I mean, Jimmy's had trouble
in the last six months
275
00:15:06,277 --> 00:15:08,195
getting to see Ryan, hasn't he? So...
276
00:15:08,195 --> 00:15:10,673
So she gives him away
to a complete stranger?
277
00:15:10,673 --> 00:15:12,351
I'm sorry, doesn't make any sense.
278
00:15:12,351 --> 00:15:15,469
You've never had the pleasure of
walking down the aisle, have you?
279
00:15:15,469 --> 00:15:17,467
So many people
can't have kids of their own.
280
00:15:17,627 --> 00:15:19,665
But loads of kids
get adopted legally.
281
00:15:19,665 --> 00:15:21,303
It takes years that, doesn't it?
282
00:15:21,303 --> 00:15:25,100
And not every kid, by the way,
is a two-year-old cute blonde boy.
283
00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:27,538
So some desperate couple
skips the red tape
284
00:15:27,538 --> 00:15:29,456
and she gets her freedom back.
285
00:15:29,456 --> 00:15:32,613
If she wanted to give him away maybe
she made up the abduction story
286
00:15:32,613 --> 00:15:35,490
just to cover her tracks.
We've got to get her talking.
287
00:15:35,490 --> 00:15:38,168
She wanted me to go out there
and help her find Ryan, so...
288
00:15:38,168 --> 00:15:40,286
I'd be happier
if you talked to her here.
289
00:15:40,286 --> 00:15:42,444
No, cos If Ron goes out
and retraces her steps,
290
00:15:42,444 --> 00:15:44,362
we get to see the whole journey
in detail.
291
00:15:44,362 --> 00:15:48,199
And if there was a handover,
maybe somebody saw something.
292
00:15:48,199 --> 00:15:52,315
Well, all right. But I want you on a
wire. We've got to cover our arses.
293
00:15:56,591 --> 00:15:58,869
You and Jimmy don't get on, then?
294
00:15:58,869 --> 00:16:02,506
He doesn't like me having boyfriends
in case Ryan likes them too much.
295
00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:06,302
Maybe he's scared of
losing Ryan for good.
296
00:16:07,381 --> 00:16:11,697
I mean, you get married,
Ryan gets a new dad.
297
00:16:11,697 --> 00:16:14,735
I'm not getting married
until I'm at least 25.
298
00:16:14,735 --> 00:16:18,251
How comes you don't have a boyfriend?
Pretty girl like you,
299
00:16:18,251 --> 00:16:20,489
they must be queuing up
round the block.'
300
00:16:20,489 --> 00:16:23,647
'Yeah, cos they really wanna be
lumbered with someone else's kid.'
301
00:16:23,647 --> 00:16:25,805
'Do you regret having Ryan so young?'
302
00:16:25,805 --> 00:16:27,963
Used to be all I ever wanted.
303
00:16:27,963 --> 00:16:31,919
Be like them girls pushing prams
round the estate, all proud.
304
00:16:33,318 --> 00:16:35,795
I remember at school
they did this talk
305
00:16:35,795 --> 00:16:37,354
about how hard it was to be a mum
306
00:16:37,354 --> 00:16:39,672
and we were all just like,
whatever.
307
00:16:39,672 --> 00:16:42,709
They even had one of them dolls,
you know,
308
00:16:42,709 --> 00:16:44,787
that cries when it needs changing?
Yeah.
309
00:16:44,787 --> 00:16:47,984
Supposed to put you off having kids.
310
00:16:47,984 --> 00:16:50,542
But it didn't put you off?
311
00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:53,260
When it was my turn to take it home,
312
00:16:53,260 --> 00:16:55,857
it was proper screaming at
two o'clock in the morning -
313
00:16:55,857 --> 00:16:57,736
I just took the batteries out.
314
00:16:57,736 --> 00:17:00,053
'Well, you can't do that
with a real baby.'
315
00:17:01,052 --> 00:17:03,610
'Wish I'd had a dad like you.'
316
00:17:03,610 --> 00:17:05,568
'I'm not sure my daughters
would agree!'
317
00:17:05,568 --> 00:17:07,087
'They would if they had my dad.'
318
00:17:10,324 --> 00:17:13,241
My eldest daughter Sarah, she's er...
319
00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,958
..she's sort of about your age.
320
00:17:17,797 --> 00:17:19,516
She's expecting a baby.
321
00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:22,713
You're gonna be a granddad.
322
00:17:23,952 --> 00:17:26,429
Well, if she'll let me.
323
00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:30,066
She's not returning my calls.
324
00:17:30,066 --> 00:17:31,745
Why not?
325
00:17:33,423 --> 00:17:35,102
Because the dad she remembers
326
00:17:35,102 --> 00:17:37,939
chose a bottle of whisky
over her and her sister.
327
00:17:41,336 --> 00:17:43,054
So, where next?
328
00:17:48,329 --> 00:17:52,686
You don't drink now, then?
Not for 2,198 days.
329
00:17:54,124 --> 00:17:56,082
Your daughter not proud?
330
00:17:58,001 --> 00:18:00,558
It doesn't change the past, does it?
331
00:18:00,558 --> 00:18:03,835
And I'm not proud of that, so...
332
00:18:06,073 --> 00:18:09,071
Bet all she wants
is a big hug from her dad.
333
00:18:19,062 --> 00:18:21,619
Talk to me, Kayla.
Trust me.
334
00:18:24,656 --> 00:18:28,053
I've kind of told you
a white lie, Ronnie.
335
00:18:28,053 --> 00:18:30,691
I have got a boyfriend.
336
00:18:38,324 --> 00:18:40,162
We...
337
00:18:41,641 --> 00:18:45,238
..we had a row before I come out.
338
00:18:45,238 --> 00:18:48,235
What about?
Jimmy.
339
00:18:49,274 --> 00:18:51,872
And he doesn't like Jimmy
seeing Ryan?
340
00:18:53,230 --> 00:18:55,508
He doesn't like me seeing Jimmy.
341
00:18:57,786 --> 00:19:00,784
He got me to stop the visits.
Oh.
342
00:19:01,223 --> 00:19:05,979
And sometimes I'd let Jimmy see Ryan
in secret,
343
00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:10,575
but...if he found out,
he'd go mental.
344
00:19:12,773 --> 00:19:14,971
Does your boyfriend have a name?
345
00:19:14,971 --> 00:19:17,009
'Rob.'
346
00:19:18,088 --> 00:19:20,006
'Does Rob have a temper?'
347
00:19:20,006 --> 00:19:23,483
He doesn't like it when Ryan cries.
348
00:19:25,241 --> 00:19:28,518
But kids cry. You can't stop 'em.
349
00:19:28,518 --> 00:19:31,196
Did he ever try and stop Ryan
from crying?
350
00:19:32,914 --> 00:19:36,111
He couldn't think straight
with all that noise.
351
00:19:37,630 --> 00:19:39,748
That's what he said.
352
00:19:46,142 --> 00:19:48,540
'I left the house about 10:30,
353
00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:52,017
come up the shops to buy fish
fingers and chips for Ryan's tea.'
354
00:19:52,017 --> 00:19:55,334
When I met Rob I thought that he
liked kids. He's got enough of 'em.
355
00:19:55,334 --> 00:19:57,332
How many kids has he got?
Four.
356
00:19:57,332 --> 00:19:58,891
He don't see 'em or nothing.
357
00:19:58,891 --> 00:20:00,809
Must cost him a fortune
in child support.
358
00:20:00,809 --> 00:20:04,086
No, it's all right, he's on benefit
so he don't pay or anything.
359
00:20:04,086 --> 00:20:06,444
And where does Rob live?
We're just down there.
360
00:20:09,361 --> 00:20:11,839
Hang on a minute,
so you live in Morden Rise with Rob?
361
00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:13,917
But I thought you lived
in Tollington View.
362
00:20:13,917 --> 00:20:16,595
I did. But Rob wanted us
to move into his place.
363
00:20:16,595 --> 00:20:18,553
But your name's still on
your old flat.
364
00:20:18,553 --> 00:20:20,631
My mate lives there with her kid.
365
00:20:20,631 --> 00:20:24,427
So the pillowcases and toothbrush,
they weren't even Ryan's?
366
00:20:24,427 --> 00:20:26,386
'I'm sorry. I lied.'
367
00:20:26,386 --> 00:20:29,823
Morden Rise.
All units to Morden Rise.
368
00:20:40,893 --> 00:20:44,050
Sorry, babe.
I had to tell them what you done.
369
00:20:45,448 --> 00:20:47,087
Stupid cow!
370
00:20:49,125 --> 00:20:51,523
Search the bedrooms. Cuff him.
371
00:20:56,798 --> 00:20:58,556
Robert Whitely, I'm arresting you
372
00:20:58,556 --> 00:21:00,635
on suspicion of kidnapping
Ryan Stark.
373
00:21:09,986 --> 00:21:11,585
No, nothing.
374
00:21:14,742 --> 00:21:18,179
What have you done with Ryan, Kayla?
Where is he?
375
00:21:34,843 --> 00:21:37,081
He's in heaven, Ronnie.
376
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,877
My baby boy is in heaven
with the angels.
377
00:22:04,377 --> 00:22:08,053
My client has prepared a statement
which he would like to read out.
378
00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:15,726
I left my flat at 13 Morden Rise
at five.
379
00:22:15,726 --> 00:22:18,923
My mate, Colin Woods,
picked me up in his car
380
00:22:18,923 --> 00:22:23,120
and we drove to Milton Keynes
where he lives.
381
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:27,436
We had a few drinks at his place
and then went clubbing.
382
00:22:27,436 --> 00:22:30,353
We were drinking all night,
and didn't get to London
383
00:22:30,353 --> 00:22:32,231
until the next day.
384
00:22:34,389 --> 00:22:37,387
Did you go into Ryan's room
before you went out? No comment.
385
00:22:38,665 --> 00:22:40,384
You say you were drinking heavily.
386
00:22:40,384 --> 00:22:42,342
Do you remember coming home?
No comment.
387
00:22:42,342 --> 00:22:45,619
Do you have any memory of what you
did when you got home? No comment.
388
00:22:45,619 --> 00:22:48,536
Did you go into Ryan's bedroom
when you got home? No comment.
389
00:22:48,536 --> 00:22:51,694
Did you kill Ryan Stark?
I never went near her bloody kid!
390
00:22:51,694 --> 00:22:53,332
Shut up, Rob.
391
00:22:53,332 --> 00:22:56,010
My client has no further comments
to make.
392
00:22:57,608 --> 00:23:00,965
So, what are we talking here?
Sustained abuse or a single attack?
393
00:23:00,965 --> 00:23:03,643
Well, there's evidence of
ongoing neglect and injuries
394
00:23:03,643 --> 00:23:05,121
dating back six months.
395
00:23:05,121 --> 00:23:07,759
And he never came to the attention
of Social Services?
396
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,675
This is the updated file. Ryan was
subject to a Child Protection plan
397
00:23:11,675 --> 00:23:13,434
for the last five months
of his life.
398
00:23:13,434 --> 00:23:15,392
Doesn't look like they did
a very good job!
399
00:23:15,392 --> 00:23:18,469
They were on the back foot.
Social Services weren't aware that
400
00:23:18,469 --> 00:23:21,586
Kayla and Ryan were living with
Whitely until after Ryan died.
401
00:23:21,586 --> 00:23:24,384
They were running a benefit scam,
claiming on two flats.
402
00:23:24,384 --> 00:23:26,901
All Social Services visits happened
at Kayla's flat.
403
00:23:26,901 --> 00:23:29,579
So they had no idea Rob Whitely was
on the scene? Exactly.
404
00:23:29,579 --> 00:23:32,337
What was the cause of death?
Suffocation.
405
00:23:32,337 --> 00:23:35,014
We can't be sure how.
He had three cracked ribs
406
00:23:35,014 --> 00:23:37,132
and there was bruising on his back.
407
00:23:37,132 --> 00:23:38,731
And we think during the attack
408
00:23:38,731 --> 00:23:41,009
Whitely pressed his full weight down
onto Ryan.
409
00:23:41,009 --> 00:23:45,205
The pathologist then reckoned that
had that happened on a sofa or a bed,
410
00:23:45,205 --> 00:23:48,242
Ryan could easily have suffocated.
Were both of them abusing him?
411
00:23:48,242 --> 00:23:50,960
Kayla knew what Whitely was up to,
that's for sure,
412
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,757
but it was definitely Whitely
that was hurting the boy.
413
00:23:53,757 --> 00:23:56,075
He had a sovereign ring
when we arrested him.
414
00:23:56,075 --> 00:23:58,353
We matched marks from Ryan's body
to that ring.
415
00:23:58,353 --> 00:24:01,110
Initially, Kayla claimed Whitely
was abusing Ryan.
416
00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:02,869
She changed her story?
Not exactly.
417
00:24:02,869 --> 00:24:04,987
When we arrested them
and they got briefed up,
418
00:24:04,987 --> 00:24:06,865
their only words were "no comment."
419
00:24:06,865 --> 00:24:10,142
But Whitely did come up with some
sort of an alibi, didn't he? Yeah.
420
00:24:10,142 --> 00:24:11,461
Does it check out?
421
00:24:11,461 --> 00:24:14,458
We've got evidence of him being
in a nightclub part of the night,
422
00:24:14,458 --> 00:24:17,016
but he easily had time enough
to get back and kill Ryan.
423
00:24:17,016 --> 00:24:19,853
So is this child cruelty resulting
in death or is it murder?
424
00:24:19,853 --> 00:24:22,291
No, no, it is murder.
No doubt about it.
425
00:24:27,926 --> 00:24:30,843
Kayla and Rob Whitely
haven't made any attempt
426
00:24:30,843 --> 00:24:34,160
to explain how or why Ryan died.
427
00:24:35,639 --> 00:24:37,397
That's to be expected.
428
00:24:37,397 --> 00:24:41,753
Their legal advisors have made sure
they don't incriminate themselves.
429
00:24:41,753 --> 00:24:44,831
I can't promise
we can secure a murder conviction,
430
00:24:44,831 --> 00:24:49,107
but I will do my best to make sure
they both go to prison.
431
00:24:49,107 --> 00:24:51,345
I've got journalists...
432
00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:55,381
..banging my door down,
day and night...
433
00:24:56,540 --> 00:24:58,498
..wanting my story.
434
00:25:00,297 --> 00:25:03,893
All of a sudden everyone wants
to hear what I got to say.
435
00:25:06,251 --> 00:25:08,249
For the past six months...
436
00:25:09,568 --> 00:25:11,726
..I've been begging someone
to listen...
437
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:16,881
..and all I heard was
I got no right to see my own son.
438
00:25:16,881 --> 00:25:20,318
I'm his dad.
I should've kept him safe.
439
00:25:30,189 --> 00:25:33,666
You know murder is notoriously hard
to prove in child cruelty cases.
440
00:25:33,666 --> 00:25:35,225
The abuse speaks for itself.
441
00:25:35,225 --> 00:25:37,742
A jury who sees the photographs
will want to bring back hanging.
442
00:25:37,752 --> 00:25:39,741
A life sentence is a soft option.
443
00:25:39,741 --> 00:25:42,458
You think the Home Secretary
wants a big expensive trial?
444
00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:44,137
What's the alternative?
445
00:25:45,415 --> 00:25:47,574
I'm not dropping the murder charge
446
00:25:47,574 --> 00:25:50,171
to save the Ministry of Justice
a few quid, Henry.
447
00:25:50,171 --> 00:25:53,248
Just make sure
those two don't get bail.
448
00:25:58,923 --> 00:26:01,361
Kayla was removed from her family
at the age of five
449
00:26:01,361 --> 00:26:04,039
following chronic sexual abuse
and physical violence
450
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:05,917
at the hands of
her alcoholic father.
451
00:26:05,917 --> 00:26:07,755
Spare me the sob story.
452
00:26:07,755 --> 00:26:10,233
I have a report here from a clinical
psychologist
453
00:26:10,233 --> 00:26:13,270
specialising in women
who collude with a partner's abuse.
454
00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:17,227
It states that my client had
"Developed a narcissistic attitude
455
00:26:17,227 --> 00:26:20,384
towards her son, viewing him
as an extension of herself".
456
00:26:20,384 --> 00:26:23,861
So what are you saying?
It wasn't her fault her son died?
457
00:26:23,861 --> 00:26:28,296
I'm saying her norms are radically
different to yours or mine.
458
00:26:28,296 --> 00:26:31,414
She's only worthy of cruelty,
so that's how she treats her child.
459
00:26:31,414 --> 00:26:33,612
And I can cite you women
like Shy Keenan
460
00:26:33,612 --> 00:26:35,690
who endured the most horrific abuse
461
00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:38,567
but came out the other side a hero
not an abuser.
462
00:26:38,567 --> 00:26:40,805
It's a choice.
463
00:26:40,805 --> 00:26:42,923
Not if it affects
her fitness to plead.
464
00:26:42,923 --> 00:26:45,801
History of abuse has no bearing
on fitness to plead.
465
00:26:45,801 --> 00:26:47,959
She's as sane as any one of us,
and you know it.
466
00:26:47,959 --> 00:26:50,796
Sane maybe, but she also has
severe learning difficulties
467
00:26:50,796 --> 00:26:52,674
and the IQ of a 10-year-old child.
468
00:26:52,674 --> 00:26:56,311
Well, 10 is the age of criminal
responsibility so we're good to go.
469
00:27:01,306 --> 00:27:03,504
You really don't remember me,
do you?
470
00:27:03,504 --> 00:27:06,062
I'm sorry, should I?
471
00:27:06,062 --> 00:27:09,499
Phone number on the bedside table
would've been nice.
472
00:27:17,811 --> 00:27:20,209
Defence are going to argue
if Kayla Stark
473
00:27:20,209 --> 00:27:23,246
hadn't been a victim of abuse,
none of this would've happened.
474
00:27:23,246 --> 00:27:25,804
An abusive childhood
might be convenient mitigation
475
00:27:25,804 --> 00:27:29,241
but it isn't an excuse for murder.
She deserves to go to prison.
476
00:27:29,241 --> 00:27:32,078
Any juror will see
they deserve jail time,
477
00:27:32,078 --> 00:27:33,957
but what they did needs explaining.
478
00:27:33,957 --> 00:27:37,154
These are the wrong defendants
to get all touchy feely over.
479
00:27:37,154 --> 00:27:40,471
They end up in psych units, the Home
Secretary'll hang us all out to dry.
480
00:27:40,471 --> 00:27:43,868
I think we need to cover ourselves
and order our own psych evaluations.
481
00:27:43,868 --> 00:27:47,664
Because her brief found a psychiatrist
who claims Kayla Stark has a low IQ?
482
00:27:47,664 --> 00:27:50,382
Because we need to be one step ahead
of defence.
483
00:27:50,382 --> 00:27:52,540
And don't you wanna know why
they killed Ryan?
484
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:54,338
If we don't ask why, who will?
485
00:27:54,338 --> 00:27:57,575
Substitute psychology for morality
and our jobs become obsolete.
486
00:27:57,575 --> 00:27:59,853
Deny they had a choice,
you deny responsibility.
487
00:27:59,853 --> 00:28:02,251
So you really don't care why?
Not in this case, no.
488
00:28:02,251 --> 00:28:05,528
All I care about is convicting one
of them for the murder of a child.
489
00:28:05,528 --> 00:28:07,686
If we push for a murder trial
we could lose.
490
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:10,803
There isn't enough evidence to prove
which one of them killed Ryan.
491
00:28:10,803 --> 00:28:13,401
She's right. If we can't prove
which one killed the boy,
492
00:28:13,401 --> 00:28:16,438
there's sufficient reasonable doubt
to see them both walk.
493
00:28:16,438 --> 00:28:18,596
We could consider a manslaughter
charge,
494
00:28:18,596 --> 00:28:20,754
try and get them
to plead guilty.
495
00:28:20,754 --> 00:28:23,232
We may not get them
to plead at all.
496
00:28:23,232 --> 00:28:25,989
Whitely and Stark's briefs
have joined forces.
497
00:28:25,989 --> 00:28:28,907
They've applied for
a fitness to plead hearing.
498
00:28:32,663 --> 00:28:37,339
Sorry Mr Browning, I have no doubt
Robert Whitely is fit to plead.
499
00:28:37,339 --> 00:28:41,056
I have some concerns, however,
regarding Kayla Stark's IQ
500
00:28:41,056 --> 00:28:42,854
and her learning difficulties.
501
00:28:42,854 --> 00:28:45,452
Has she the mental ability
to follow the proceedings?
502
00:28:45,452 --> 00:28:47,889
We try 10-year-old children
for murder
503
00:28:47,889 --> 00:28:50,607
without regard to their ability
to follow proceedings.
504
00:28:50,607 --> 00:28:53,844
I'm not interested in debating
the age of criminal responsibility,
505
00:28:53,844 --> 00:28:57,321
only in Kayla Stark's ability to
understand what she's pleading to.
506
00:28:57,321 --> 00:29:00,598
The psychiatric evaluations suggest
that she doesn't, m'Lord.
507
00:29:00,598 --> 00:29:03,835
So on the say so of two psychiatrists
who've seen her for five minutes,
508
00:29:03,835 --> 00:29:06,193
we go from murder to nothing
in less than an hour!
509
00:29:06,193 --> 00:29:08,471
If she's not fit to plead,
she's not fit to plead.
510
00:29:08,471 --> 00:29:12,467
It's not rocket science. Which is fortunate
as none of us are rocket scientists.
511
00:29:14,545 --> 00:29:18,102
There is also my defendant's family
history to take into consideration.
512
00:29:18,102 --> 00:29:21,459
Which you can introduce in trial but
bears no relevance to this hearing.
513
00:29:21,459 --> 00:29:23,457
Indeed, Mr Thorne.
514
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:28,333
According to reports, she is not
suffering from mental illness.
515
00:29:28,333 --> 00:29:32,329
So, the only issue is her IQ
and her learning difficulties.
516
00:29:32,329 --> 00:29:34,607
She was capable of concocting
a story
517
00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:36,325
that her child had been abducted.
518
00:29:36,325 --> 00:29:40,042
Low IQ or not, she is quite capable
of standing trial.
519
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:45,757
I'm sorry, Miss Dyer,
I'm with the Crown on this.
520
00:29:45,757 --> 00:29:49,314
Anyone capable of weaving
such an elaborate web of lies
521
00:29:49,314 --> 00:29:51,432
is capable of entering a plea.
522
00:29:51,432 --> 00:29:54,988
The charges stand.
Trial will commence on Monday.
523
00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:04,820
What do you reckon? 10 minutes
before one of them caves?
524
00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:06,938
15 if they've got any self respect.
525
00:30:06,938 --> 00:30:09,056
Yvette or Gregor?
Yvette, definitely.
526
00:30:09,056 --> 00:30:12,213
I reckon Gregor secretly wants
the glory of a high profile trial.
527
00:30:12,213 --> 00:30:15,210
Yvette actually cares about
her clients. Jake!
528
00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:17,168
And she fancies you.
529
00:30:18,727 --> 00:30:21,684
We'll plead guilty to causing
or allowing the death of a child.
530
00:30:21,684 --> 00:30:24,322
Great news. It'll help us secure
the murder conviction.
531
00:30:24,322 --> 00:30:25,840
If you drop the murder charge.
532
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,879
Even if she pleads
to the lower charge,
533
00:30:27,879 --> 00:30:31,395
she could still end up in prison
for life. So we all rest easy.
534
00:30:31,395 --> 00:30:35,112
Except for Ryan's dad.
Oh, come on, Jake.
535
00:30:35,112 --> 00:30:37,710
Accept the plea and we'll give you
Whitely gift wrapped.
536
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:39,228
Kayla will turn QE?
537
00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:42,146
She'll give you every last detail
you need to crucify Whitely
538
00:30:42,146 --> 00:30:44,064
and put him away for murder.
539
00:30:51,457 --> 00:30:52,816
Ronnie.
540
00:30:52,816 --> 00:30:55,453
I've heard you've accepted a plea
from Kayla Stark.
541
00:30:55,453 --> 00:30:58,651
She pleaded guilty to causing
or allowing the death of a child.
542
00:30:58,651 --> 00:31:01,168
She was sentenced this morning,
five year tariff.
543
00:31:01,168 --> 00:31:03,606
We charged her with murder
on joint enterprise.
544
00:31:03,606 --> 00:31:06,084
We've got no evidence to prove
which one killed Ryan.
545
00:31:06,084 --> 00:31:07,642
We put them both in that dock,
546
00:31:07,642 --> 00:31:10,360
their briefs'll cry reasonable doubt
and they can walk.
547
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,718
I know why you did it, but
it's just a matter of time
548
00:31:12,718 --> 00:31:16,035
before Whitely's brief comes knocking
at your door for the same deal.
549
00:31:16,035 --> 00:31:19,711
If you accept Whitely's plea,
they could both be out in five years.
550
00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:23,188
Please, please tell me you think more
of that little boy's life than that.
551
00:31:23,188 --> 00:31:26,305
You've been a copper long enough
to know how the law works, Ronnie.
552
00:31:26,305 --> 00:31:27,824
Long enough to hope
553
00:31:27,824 --> 00:31:31,301
that if I charge someone with murder,
they will be tried for murder.
554
00:31:33,299 --> 00:31:34,898
Ronnie,
555
00:31:34,898 --> 00:31:36,896
you have my word,
556
00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:39,653
with Kayla's evidence,
I can try Whitely with murder
557
00:31:39,653 --> 00:31:41,971
and send him to prison for life.
558
00:31:55,334 --> 00:31:56,813
Did my client, Robert Whitely,
559
00:31:56,813 --> 00:31:59,251
ever confess to killing Ryan Stark?
560
00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:01,129
No.
561
00:32:01,129 --> 00:32:05,005
So all you have is his ex-girlfriend
Kayla Stark's claim that he did?
562
00:32:05,005 --> 00:32:07,923
Well, she was very clear about
who killed her son.
563
00:32:07,923 --> 00:32:09,641
These claims Kayla made
564
00:32:09,641 --> 00:32:12,319
were offered up during a little walk
you took together?
565
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:15,835
Yes they were, but we went out
together to retrace her steps.
566
00:32:15,835 --> 00:32:17,674
Ah. I thought you took her out
567
00:32:17,674 --> 00:32:21,151
to ask her personal, probing
questions about her love life.
568
00:32:21,151 --> 00:32:24,548
I was trying to find out if Ryan
was at risk from someone else.
569
00:32:24,548 --> 00:32:26,266
And did you tell her she was pretty?
570
00:32:26,266 --> 00:32:28,983
My learned friend is deviating
into fantasy land, m'Lord.
571
00:32:28,983 --> 00:32:33,100
His insinuation DS Brooks, an
officer with an impeccable record,
572
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:36,856
had some ulterior motive
is beyond ridiculous.
573
00:32:36,856 --> 00:32:38,535
Withdrawn, m'Lord.
574
00:32:38,535 --> 00:32:40,653
Let me ask you one more time,
DS Brooks,
575
00:32:40,653 --> 00:32:42,211
so we are completely clear,
576
00:32:42,211 --> 00:32:44,369
during the course of
the police interviews,
577
00:32:44,369 --> 00:32:46,607
did Robert Whitely at any time
578
00:32:46,607 --> 00:32:49,565
say he was responsible
for Ryan's death?
579
00:32:57,078 --> 00:32:59,716
No.
No further questions, m'Lord.
580
00:32:59,716 --> 00:33:01,634
Re-examination, m'Lord.
581
00:33:02,753 --> 00:33:04,112
Am I right in assuming
582
00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:06,909
that other than a brief statement
setting out his alibi,
583
00:33:06,909 --> 00:33:09,427
the defendant said nothing more than
"no comment"
584
00:33:09,427 --> 00:33:13,143
while he was in police custody?
Apart from one abusive remark, yes.
585
00:33:13,143 --> 00:33:14,622
And am I also right in assuming
586
00:33:14,622 --> 00:33:17,300
when you went out with Kayla Stark
on this search for Ryan,
587
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:20,497
you were under the assumption that
Ryan had been illegally adopted?
588
00:33:20,497 --> 00:33:23,014
Evidence suggested that Kayla had
given Ryan away.
589
00:33:23,014 --> 00:33:26,731
So we thought by retracing her steps,
we could find some new witnesses.
590
00:33:26,731 --> 00:33:29,688
So the only reason you took
this unorthodox approach
591
00:33:29,688 --> 00:33:33,565
was because you believed there was
a slim chance of finding Ryan alive,
592
00:33:33,565 --> 00:33:35,403
and you might rescue him?
593
00:33:35,403 --> 00:33:38,161
Well, we had hoped that
that was the case, yes.
594
00:33:38,161 --> 00:33:41,557
Thank you, Detective Sergeant,
you've been most helpful.
595
00:33:42,916 --> 00:33:45,594
Did Whitely attack Ryan
the night he died?
596
00:33:48,791 --> 00:33:52,068
I was in bed...and Ryan was crying.
597
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:57,383
Rob went into Ryan's room.
598
00:33:57,383 --> 00:33:59,461
I heard him shouting.
599
00:33:59,461 --> 00:34:02,618
I heard Ryan - he was crying
and then he stopped.
600
00:34:04,616 --> 00:34:07,014
When I went to get Ryan up
in the morning,
601
00:34:07,014 --> 00:34:09,612
I knew he was dead.
602
00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:15,606
I was scared. Jimmy was supposed to
see him the next day. I panicked.
603
00:34:15,606 --> 00:34:17,924
And pretended Ryan
had been abducted?
604
00:34:18,844 --> 00:34:20,082
Yeah.
605
00:34:20,082 --> 00:34:22,161
So there is no doubt in your mind
606
00:34:22,161 --> 00:34:25,997
that your son was alive when Robert
Whitely entered his room that night
607
00:34:25,997 --> 00:34:28,075
and dead when he left it?
608
00:34:29,194 --> 00:34:31,032
No doubt at all.
609
00:34:32,951 --> 00:34:37,507
You pleaded guilty to
"causing or allowing" Ryan's death.
610
00:34:37,507 --> 00:34:40,424
Did anyone else allow Ryan's death?
611
00:34:42,742 --> 00:34:45,779
Did anyone else know about
Ryan's injuries?
612
00:34:45,779 --> 00:34:47,977
His social worker, Bernie Bradley,
she knew.
613
00:34:49,416 --> 00:34:52,733
Is my learned friend simply
hurling mud left, right and centre
614
00:34:52,733 --> 00:34:54,371
and seeing where it lands,
615
00:34:54,371 --> 00:34:57,688
or does this bear any relevance to
the question of his client's guilt?
616
00:34:57,688 --> 00:34:59,726
Make your point, Mr Browning.
617
00:34:59,726 --> 00:35:03,163
There were 23 separate visits
or meetings with social workers
618
00:35:03,163 --> 00:35:07,200
who came into your home and asked
you questions about Ryan's injuries?
619
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,155
Yeah. So how is it possible that
Ryan continued to suffer abuse?
620
00:35:13,514 --> 00:35:17,350
I covered it up.
To protect your boyfriend?
621
00:35:17,350 --> 00:35:19,508
No to protect Ryan.
622
00:35:20,787 --> 00:35:23,625
I grew up in care.
I know what them places are like.
623
00:35:23,625 --> 00:35:26,062
I was afraid they'd
take him away from me.
624
00:35:26,062 --> 00:35:29,579
And these social workers,
they believed your lies?
625
00:35:29,579 --> 00:35:32,776
I dunno. They wanted to get out of
my house as quick as they could.
626
00:35:32,776 --> 00:35:35,334
That Bernie Bradley woman
said my flat smelled.
627
00:35:35,334 --> 00:35:38,051
She didn't want to conduct
further visits to a child
628
00:35:38,051 --> 00:35:43,047
with inexplicable repeated serious
injuries because your flat smelled?!
629
00:35:43,047 --> 00:35:47,003
That's right. And did she come on
a visit the week before Ryan died?
630
00:35:47,003 --> 00:35:50,120
And how long did Bernie Bradley stay?
She didn't.
631
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,079
She was on the doorstep
a minute or so.
632
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,277
Did she see Ryan?
He was asleep.
633
00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:56,754
So a week before Ryan's death,
634
00:35:56,754 --> 00:36:00,911
this senior social worker,
responsible for Ryan's welfare,
635
00:36:00,911 --> 00:36:03,229
conducted this final visit
636
00:36:03,229 --> 00:36:06,026
and then walked away
without even seeing him?!
637
00:36:09,942 --> 00:36:11,541
Yeah.
638
00:36:11,541 --> 00:36:13,779
No further questions my Lord.
639
00:36:19,494 --> 00:36:22,851
Gregor did a good job of making
Ryan's social worker sound culpable.
640
00:36:22,851 --> 00:36:24,849
Yeah, maybe she had a role
in Ryan's death
641
00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,646
but you can't lay the blame
on a bureaucratic system.
642
00:36:27,646 --> 00:36:29,884
Even if they failed
to protect a child?
643
00:36:29,884 --> 00:36:32,402
Social Services have already sacked
Bernice Bradley
644
00:36:32,402 --> 00:36:35,479
to save their own skins. Gregor's
turning this into a witch hunt.
645
00:36:35,479 --> 00:36:38,596
If he causes enough confusion,
the jury won't know who to blame.
646
00:36:41,234 --> 00:36:44,431
Aren't you the one responsible for
Ryan Stark's death?
647
00:36:44,431 --> 00:36:47,628
I mean, you're the social worker
who saw him 23 times
648
00:36:47,628 --> 00:36:50,146
and between your visits
he was battered senseless.
649
00:36:50,146 --> 00:36:54,142
Kayla Stark hid what was going on.
She lied about where she was living.
650
00:36:54,142 --> 00:36:56,540
Wasn't it your job
to dig a little deeper?
651
00:36:56,540 --> 00:36:58,978
A week before he died,
I sent Ryan's case for review
652
00:36:58,978 --> 00:37:01,895
so care proceedings could be considered.
It's not in the file.
653
00:37:01,895 --> 00:37:04,533
There was an administrative error
in the department.
654
00:37:04,533 --> 00:37:07,330
My written request
was misfiled by a temp.
655
00:37:07,330 --> 00:37:11,007
Are you telling this court the life of an
abused child was in the hands of a temp?
656
00:37:11,007 --> 00:37:14,284
Our department was already short
staffed before our funding was cut.
657
00:37:14,284 --> 00:37:17,041
You were there, were you not?
You didn't notice Ryan's case
658
00:37:17,041 --> 00:37:18,440
hadn't come up for review?
659
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,678
I thought about that little boy
all the time.
660
00:37:20,678 --> 00:37:23,915
And yet you didn't help him.
I went there the night he died!
661
00:37:23,915 --> 00:37:27,112
There's no record of any visit that night.
It was out of hours.
662
00:37:27,112 --> 00:37:29,870
I turned up at the address
on the file and she wasn't there.
663
00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:32,507
Her old neighbour told me
where she was now living,
664
00:37:32,507 --> 00:37:35,824
I went round there and I told her
I was issuing care proceedings.
665
00:37:37,103 --> 00:37:38,782
Are you 100 per cent certain
666
00:37:38,782 --> 00:37:40,780
this impromptu doorstep visit
took place
667
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:42,898
the night Ryan died
and not the week before?
668
00:37:42,898 --> 00:37:44,816
100 hundred percent.
It was my birthday
669
00:37:44,816 --> 00:37:47,973
and I spent it writing a report
stating she was living at Whitely's.
670
00:37:47,973 --> 00:37:50,331
I posted it through the office door
at 5am
671
00:37:50,331 --> 00:37:53,528
before I got my flight to Spain.
And it never went into the file?
672
00:37:53,528 --> 00:37:56,446
It was added to the request
to issue care proceedings.
673
00:37:56,446 --> 00:37:58,124
Which got misfiled.
674
00:37:58,124 --> 00:38:01,081
By the time it was found,
I'd been summarily dismissed.
675
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,998
I did everything in my power
to protect that little boy.
676
00:38:04,998 --> 00:38:06,676
You have to believe me.
677
00:38:09,913 --> 00:38:11,512
Thanks a lot, Bernie.
678
00:38:13,470 --> 00:38:16,068
Kayla lied about the last visit.
679
00:38:16,068 --> 00:38:19,664
She said in court that Bernie came
round the week before Ryan died.
680
00:38:19,664 --> 00:38:22,662
Which she did. The last official
visit at Kayla's old flat
681
00:38:22,662 --> 00:38:24,420
was the week before Ryan's death.
682
00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:26,738
But the doorstep visit
was at Whitely's flat
683
00:38:26,738 --> 00:38:29,056
and happened the night Ryan died.
684
00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:32,533
You'd remember if your social worker
came round the night your kid died.
685
00:38:32,533 --> 00:38:35,490
So, what else
has she been lying about?
686
00:38:37,528 --> 00:38:40,406
Ronnie? It's Jacob Thorne.
687
00:38:40,406 --> 00:38:44,802
What exactly did you say to Kayla
Stark to get her to open up to you?
688
00:38:47,399 --> 00:38:49,317
The night Bernie Bradley came round
689
00:38:49,317 --> 00:38:51,955
and you spoke to her
on your doorstep, was Rob there?
690
00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:54,753
He was out clubbing. We'd had a row.
691
00:38:54,753 --> 00:38:56,631
He didn't come back
till the next day.
692
00:38:56,631 --> 00:38:59,308
So the visit took place at Rob
Whitely's flat?
693
00:38:59,308 --> 00:39:03,145
Not your old flat, like all
the other Social Services visits?
694
00:39:03,145 --> 00:39:07,141
Yeah. Well, she'd found out
I was living there, hadn't she?
695
00:39:07,141 --> 00:39:09,379
Some busybody mouthing off.
696
00:39:09,379 --> 00:39:11,977
What time did he go out
and what time did he return?
697
00:39:11,977 --> 00:39:15,494
He went out about eight.
Got back the next morning about 10,
698
00:39:15,494 --> 00:39:16,932
just before I went out.
699
00:39:16,932 --> 00:39:18,851
Where did you go?
700
00:39:20,369 --> 00:39:22,367
Where did you go?
I don't remember.
701
00:39:22,367 --> 00:39:25,644
You went to the corner shop,
didn't you? You bought fish fingers.
702
00:39:25,644 --> 00:39:29,201
You went to the park, then you went
to the merry-go-round in Bermondsey.
703
00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:31,759
No, I didn't. Not that day.
Then you raised the alarm
704
00:39:31,759 --> 00:39:33,118
that your son was missing,
705
00:39:33,118 --> 00:39:36,075
claiming that he'd been snatched
from the merry-go-round.
706
00:39:36,075 --> 00:39:38,792
Isn't that the case?
You've got it wrong.
707
00:39:43,149 --> 00:39:47,025
Bernice Bradley has told this court
she went round to Whitely's flat
708
00:39:47,025 --> 00:39:51,061
and told you she was issuing care
proceedings on the night Ryan died.
709
00:39:51,061 --> 00:39:54,178
She remembers quite distinctly
because it was her birthday.
710
00:39:54,178 --> 00:39:57,535
You told the court that Rob was out
the night Bernie made her visit
711
00:39:57,535 --> 00:40:02,131
which tallies with his alibi that
he was clubbing in Milton Keynes.
712
00:40:02,131 --> 00:40:07,007
According to the pathology report,
Ryan died between 10pm and 6am.
713
00:40:07,007 --> 00:40:10,524
If Robert Whitely wasn't at home
during these hours,
714
00:40:10,524 --> 00:40:13,241
how did Ryan die?
715
00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:15,799
He went in his room
before he went out. I wasn't lying.
716
00:40:15,799 --> 00:40:17,837
No, you weren't lying, Kayla,
717
00:40:17,837 --> 00:40:21,634
but you weren't telling us
the whole truth either, were you?
718
00:40:21,634 --> 00:40:25,390
You told this court you went into
Ryan's room at 8 the next morning
719
00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:29,786
to get him up, but you went in
before that, didn't you?
720
00:40:40,656 --> 00:40:43,174
He was in so much pain.
721
00:40:44,693 --> 00:40:46,771
You suffered extensive abuse
722
00:40:46,771 --> 00:40:50,128
at the hands of your own father,
didn't you, Kayla?
723
00:40:52,565 --> 00:40:57,281
It must have been heartbreaking,
seeing Ryan suffer like you did?
724
00:41:01,078 --> 00:41:04,674
I had to make it stop.
Of course you did.
725
00:41:04,674 --> 00:41:06,473
That's what mums do, isn't it?
726
00:41:06,473 --> 00:41:10,109
Try and take away their child's
suffering. What did you do?
727
00:41:15,385 --> 00:41:17,782
Talk to me, Kayla.
728
00:41:19,221 --> 00:41:21,259
Trust me.
729
00:41:25,336 --> 00:41:27,294
They were gonna take him into care.
730
00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:33,688
I...
731
00:41:36,725 --> 00:41:38,723
I got a pillow...
732
00:41:43,479 --> 00:41:46,237
..and I put it on his face...
733
00:41:49,354 --> 00:41:51,392
..till he stopped moving.
734
00:41:57,666 --> 00:42:01,183
I...I just wanted him to be safe.
735
00:42:07,657 --> 00:42:10,135
I'm sorry.
736
00:42:10,135 --> 00:42:14,771
Jimmy, Jimmy...I'm so sorry.
737
00:42:30,316 --> 00:42:32,674
Kayla's pleading guilty
to the murder charge.
738
00:42:32,674 --> 00:42:34,912
She knows she'll go to prison?
739
00:42:34,912 --> 00:42:39,148
She incriminated herself in open
court. She's hardly got options.
740
00:42:40,627 --> 00:42:44,144
Henry will be thrilled you've saved
the MOJ the cost of another trial.
741
00:42:44,144 --> 00:42:46,622
And they can sentence her
along with Whitely,
742
00:42:46,622 --> 00:42:48,620
so, two for the price of one.
743
00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:51,217
And you don't have to spar with me
across the court room
744
00:42:51,217 --> 00:42:54,095
for the next few weeks. Result.
745
00:42:55,534 --> 00:42:57,212
Blue tulip...
746
00:42:58,131 --> 00:42:59,770
left shoulder blade.
747
00:43:00,729 --> 00:43:02,687
Some things I don't forget.
748
00:43:19,192 --> 00:43:23,068
Kayla Stark,
you have pleaded guilty to murder.
749
00:43:24,627 --> 00:43:28,863
I have no other option than to
sentence you to life in prison
750
00:43:28,863 --> 00:43:32,180
for the minimum term of 20 years.
751
00:43:33,619 --> 00:43:38,335
Robert Whitely, you have been found
guilty of causing or allowing
752
00:43:38,335 --> 00:43:39,973
the death of a child.
753
00:43:39,973 --> 00:43:43,450
It is my belief you played a major
role in the death of that child
754
00:43:43,450 --> 00:43:46,967
and had he not been moved into your
home, he would still be alive now.
755
00:43:46,967 --> 00:43:48,765
I therefore sentence you
756
00:43:48,765 --> 00:43:51,043
to a term of imprisonment
for public protection
757
00:43:51,043 --> 00:43:55,279
with a minimum term of eight years.
Take them down.
758
00:44:13,423 --> 00:44:14,662
Jake!
759
00:44:19,497 --> 00:44:21,216
Thank you.
760
00:44:22,574 --> 00:44:24,533
We did the right thing.
761
00:44:26,691 --> 00:44:28,289
Yeah, we did.
762
00:44:32,645 --> 00:44:34,444
Do you fancy a pint?
763
00:44:34,444 --> 00:44:36,242
I can't tonight. Er...
764
00:44:37,761 --> 00:44:40,438
Actually, I've got plans.
I'm seeing my daughter.
765
00:44:42,716 --> 00:44:44,434
Another time. Yeah?
766
00:44:44,484 --> 00:44:49,034
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