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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,043 --> 00:00:07,233 January 1591, Edinburgh. 2 00:00:09,433 --> 00:00:12,802 A woman is about to be executed. 3 00:00:12,803 --> 00:00:15,042 Her crime? 4 00:00:15,043 --> 00:00:18,442 She is a witch! 5 00:00:18,443 --> 00:00:22,953 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly. 6 00:00:22,954 --> 00:00:26,222 She's been interrogated and tortured, 7 00:00:26,223 --> 00:00:30,523 and now she'll be strangled and burnt at the stake. 8 00:00:32,793 --> 00:00:35,592 BELL TOLLS 9 00:00:35,593 --> 00:00:38,432 How did the execution of this woman 10 00:00:38,433 --> 00:00:42,432 light the fuse on a century of witch-hunts across Britain, 11 00:00:42,433 --> 00:00:47,922 and the state-sanctioned killing of thousands more like her? 12 00:00:47,923 --> 00:00:51,133 The ungodly are not so! 13 00:00:55,363 --> 00:00:58,122 In this series, I'm reinvestigating 14 00:00:58,123 --> 00:01:03,362 some of the most dramatic and brutal chapters in British history. 15 00:01:03,363 --> 00:01:06,122 It wasn't just one generation, 16 00:01:06,123 --> 00:01:09,282 it was three generations, losing their lives, 17 00:01:09,283 --> 00:01:11,352 bam, bam, bam. 18 00:01:11,353 --> 00:01:14,772 These stories form part of our national mythology. 19 00:01:14,773 --> 00:01:19,162 They harbour mysteries that have intrigued us for centuries. 20 00:01:19,163 --> 00:01:22,592 It's chilling to think that this could actually be evidence 21 00:01:22,593 --> 00:01:25,112 in a murder investigation. 22 00:01:25,113 --> 00:01:27,522 But with the passage of time, 23 00:01:27,523 --> 00:01:31,242 we have new ways to unlock their secrets, 24 00:01:31,243 --> 00:01:35,882 using scientific advances and a modern perspective. 25 00:01:35,883 --> 00:01:38,843 It's a horrible psycho sexual form of torture, isn't it? Absolutely. 26 00:01:40,243 --> 00:01:43,122 I'm going to uncover forgotten witnesses, 27 00:01:43,123 --> 00:01:45,642 I'm going to re-examine old evidence 28 00:01:45,643 --> 00:01:51,002 and follow new clues to get closer to the truth. 29 00:01:51,003 --> 00:01:54,562 It is one of the great British mysteries. 30 00:01:54,563 --> 00:01:57,002 It was one of those moments, I'm afraid, for a historian, 31 00:01:57,003 --> 00:01:59,292 that makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck. 32 00:01:59,293 --> 00:02:00,753 RAVEN CROAKS 33 00:02:15,803 --> 00:02:18,093 Today, when we think about witches, 34 00:02:18,094 --> 00:02:21,852 we think about old hags with pointy hats 35 00:02:21,853 --> 00:02:24,602 and broomsticks and black cats. 36 00:02:24,603 --> 00:02:31,083 But witches have a history that's long, sinister and very real. 37 00:02:31,084 --> 00:02:34,492 40O years ago, thousands of ordinary women 38 00:02:34,493 --> 00:02:39,122 were tortured and executed in witch-hunts. 39 00:02:39,123 --> 00:02:44,483 I want to know who these women were, and why they were killed. 40 00:02:53,573 --> 00:02:58,852 The witch-hunting craze that swept the country 400 years ago 41 00:02:58,853 --> 00:03:03,352 began here, just along the coast from Edinburgh, 42 00:03:03,353 --> 00:03:06,363 in the small seaside town of North Berwick. 43 00:03:07,753 --> 00:03:10,282 The events that were said to have taken place here 44 00:03:10,283 --> 00:03:14,243 would spark the very first large-scale witch-hunt in Scotland. 45 00:03:15,483 --> 00:03:18,083 I'm heading to the scene of the crime, 46 00:03:18,084 --> 00:03:20,763 the Old Kirk of St Andrew. 47 00:03:22,043 --> 00:03:24,803 It looks a bit like a small hut. 48 00:03:31,084 --> 00:03:36,093 Today, this is all that remains of a once-size able church. 49 00:03:36,094 --> 00:03:39,802 And it was here, one night in October '590, 50 00:03:39,803 --> 00:03:43,013 that a group of witches supposedly gathered. 51 00:03:46,563 --> 00:03:49,073 What a great place for a witches' meeting! 52 00:03:49,074 --> 00:03:51,362 Right on the edge of the sea, with a huge, craggy, 53 00:03:51,363 --> 00:03:53,453 devilish-looking rock in the background. 54 00:03:55,283 --> 00:03:59,032 This was a time when everyone believed in witchcraft, 55 00:03:59,033 --> 00:04:02,472 and this is the story of what happened here. 56 00:04:02,473 --> 00:04:06,882 "On the night of All Hallows..." That means Halloween. 57 00:04:06,883 --> 00:04:09,573 The perfect time for some witchy business. 58 00:04:14,753 --> 00:04:21,293 "There were a great many witches, to the number of 200." 59 00:04:22,443 --> 00:04:26,362 And it says that they had flagons of wine... 60 00:04:26,363 --> 00:04:28,012 THEY SlNG 61 00:04:28,013 --> 00:04:32,122 they were making merry and drinking, 62 00:04:32,123 --> 00:04:35,883 and they were singing all with one voice. 63 00:04:39,393 --> 00:04:42,813 The story goes that the devil was here. 64 00:04:45,094 --> 00:04:48,583 And these witches were concocting dangerous spells. 65 00:04:52,523 --> 00:04:55,752 They took a cat and christened it, 66 00:04:55,753 --> 00:05:00,922 and afterward, bound to each part of that cat 67 00:05:00,923 --> 00:05:04,483 the chiefest parts of a dead man. 68 00:05:06,094 --> 00:05:09,083 And the said cat was put in the sea. 69 00:05:09,084 --> 00:05:14,192 And then, "There did arise such a tempest in the sea 70 00:05:14,193 --> 00:05:16,312 "as a greater have not been seen". 71 00:05:16,313 --> 00:05:17,803 THUNDER CLAP 72 00:05:21,123 --> 00:05:24,372 This storm had been conjured for one purpose - 73 00:05:24,373 --> 00:05:26,643 to kill the King of Scotland. 74 00:05:28,003 --> 00:05:29,572 WAVES CRASH 75 00:05:29,573 --> 00:05:32,602 James Vl had been returning by ship from Denmark, 76 00:05:32,603 --> 00:05:34,513 and was lucky to survive. 77 00:05:39,003 --> 00:05:42,552 This all sounds absolutely bonkers. Ha-ha-ha-ha! 78 00:05:42,553 --> 00:05:45,733 But it's all... Oh! 79 00:05:47,613 --> 00:05:49,202 It makes a crazy sort of sense. 80 00:05:49,203 --> 00:05:52,112 This is exactly the sort of thing witches are supposed to do, isn't it? 81 00:05:52,113 --> 00:05:54,963 They're supposed to play around with corpses and cats. 82 00:05:54,964 --> 00:05:57,522 Witches are supposed to be able to control the weather. 83 00:05:57,523 --> 00:05:59,193 It's one of their powers. 84 00:06:01,553 --> 00:06:03,602 It might sound like a fairy tale, 85 00:06:03,603 --> 00:06:07,643 but what happened here set off a devastating chain of events. 86 00:06:09,193 --> 00:06:12,872 Dozens were executed for this alleged plot. 87 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:16,112 And it triggered a century of persecution 88 00:06:16,113 --> 00:06:18,322 across the British Isles. 89 00:06:18,323 --> 00:06:22,002 Thousands more would be killed for the crime of witchcraft. 90 00:06:22,003 --> 00:06:25,094 Some of them, men, the majority, women. 91 00:06:32,094 --> 00:06:36,242 To understand why this story had such impact, 92 00:06:36,243 --> 00:06:39,323 I want to see the original text for myself. 93 00:06:40,913 --> 00:06:44,673 It's held here, at the University of Glasgow Archives. 94 00:06:46,243 --> 00:06:51,012 It's a pamphlet, printed in London, called News From Scotland. 95 00:06:51,013 --> 00:06:54,392 And it gives a full account of this plot against the king 96 00:06:54,393 --> 00:06:57,243 and the trial of those held responsible. 97 00:06:58,683 --> 00:07:01,753 Only a very few of these pamphlets survive. 98 00:07:05,553 --> 00:07:10,752 This little book is more than 400 years old. 99 00:07:10,753 --> 00:07:13,122 It's an account, in quite... 100 00:07:13,123 --> 00:07:16,482 I n fact, it's quite a sensational, tabloidy account, 101 00:07:16,483 --> 00:07:19,482 of the first major witch-hunt in Scotland. 102 00:07:19,483 --> 00:07:24,093 It was written in '59', shortly after the events it describes. 103 00:07:24,094 --> 00:07:27,112 I ...I have picked up many, many old books, 104 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:29,963 and it never gets old. 105 00:07:29,964 --> 00:07:32,963 It's a pleasure every single time. 106 00:07:32,964 --> 00:07:35,682 You can't open it too wide. 107 00:07:35,683 --> 00:07:37,283 Don't want it to snap. 108 00:07:38,603 --> 00:07:40,042 Here's a little summary. 109 00:07:40,043 --> 00:07:42,492 It's a true discourse 110 00:07:42,493 --> 00:07:46,032 of the apprehension of sundry witches 111 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:49,282 lately taken in Scotland, where of some... 112 00:07:49,283 --> 00:07:51,482 Ooh! ..are executed, 113 00:07:51,483 --> 00:07:54,013 and some are yet imprisoned. 114 00:07:56,813 --> 00:07:58,252 These must be the witches. 115 00:07:58,253 --> 00:08:01,363 They're all bustling along in a sort of girl gang. 116 00:08:02,403 --> 00:08:04,372 And it's pretty clear that they are witches, 117 00:08:04,373 --> 00:08:06,562 because here is the devil. 118 00:08:06,563 --> 00:08:10,282 He's in a pulpit, he's making a sermon like a priest would do, 119 00:08:10,283 --> 00:08:12,282 but he's the flip image of a priest. 120 00:08:12,283 --> 00:08:14,112 He is, in fact, the devil. 121 00:08:14,113 --> 00:08:17,372 And these witches here at the top, they are 122 00:08:17,373 --> 00:08:19,602 working magic with their cauldron. 123 00:08:19,603 --> 00:08:22,672 They have cooked up a storm 124 00:08:22,673 --> 00:08:26,042 that has destroyed His Majesty's ship. 125 00:08:26,043 --> 00:08:28,772 You can see it's been wrecked, people are falling into the waves. 126 00:08:28,773 --> 00:08:30,843 And these are the witches 127 00:08:30,844 --> 00:08:34,854 who disrupted the king's journey back from Denmark. 128 00:08:37,844 --> 00:08:42,482 This pamphlet was commissioned by King James himself. 129 00:08:42,483 --> 00:08:46,602 It was distributed in England to tell the story of his triumph 130 00:08:46,603 --> 00:08:49,843 against the witches' wicked plot. 131 00:08:49,844 --> 00:08:52,612 It's clearly designed to be dramatic. 132 00:08:52,613 --> 00:08:55,682 Hmm. So this is quite emotive language here. 133 00:08:55,683 --> 00:08:59,532 They're not just witches, they are wicked and detestable witches. 134 00:08:59,533 --> 00:09:02,162 They had, seduced by their sorcery 135 00:09:02,163 --> 00:09:07,602 a number of others to be as bad as themselves. 136 00:09:07,603 --> 00:09:10,482 So this is a problem. 137 00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:13,372 The number of witches in Scotland is growing. 138 00:09:13,373 --> 00:09:15,322 There are more and more of them every day. 139 00:09:15,323 --> 00:09:17,533 We should be very afraid. 140 00:09:18,693 --> 00:09:24,642 The author tells us that, "God have lately overthrown and hindered 141 00:09:24,643 --> 00:09:27,732 "the intentions and wicked dealings" 142 00:09:27,733 --> 00:09:31,042 "of a great number of ungodly creatures, 143 00:09:31,043 --> 00:09:34,452 "no better than devils." 144 00:09:34,453 --> 00:09:38,272 News From Scotland paints witches 145 00:09:38,273 --> 00:09:41,632 as a serious threat to order and stability. 146 00:09:41,633 --> 00:09:44,532 And the witch-hunt as the necessary means 147 00:09:44,533 --> 00:09:47,540 by which the godly can prevail. 148 00:09:47,541 --> 00:09:51,121 But why was the Scottish king so eager to tell the English 149 00:09:51,122 --> 00:09:53,552 about his triumph over evil? 150 00:10:01,592 --> 00:10:04,881 The late '6th century was a time of huge 151 00:10:04,882 --> 00:10:07,963 political and religious upheaval. 152 00:10:09,042 --> 00:10:12,991 The Reformation was sweeping across Europe, 153 00:10:12,992 --> 00:10:15,681 as Protestants rejected the Pope's authority 154 00:10:15,682 --> 00:10:19,261 and centuries of Catholicism. 155 00:10:19,262 --> 00:10:21,962 Here in Scotland, James was the figurehead 156 00:10:21,963 --> 00:10:24,531 for this new Protestant church, 157 00:10:24,532 --> 00:10:27,842 but he also had his eye on the English throne. 158 00:10:27,843 --> 00:10:31,952 Queen Elizabeth I was getting older, she had no children. 159 00:10:31,953 --> 00:10:36,561 James was positioning himself as a strong and godly ruler. 160 00:10:36,562 --> 00:10:40,482 As a worthy successor to the Crown of England. 161 00:10:44,042 --> 00:10:47,081 Did James Vl's desire for greater power 162 00:10:47,082 --> 00:10:51,801 play a part in the ramping up of a war against witches? 163 00:10:51,802 --> 00:10:54,832 Edinburgh's National Portrait Gallery 164 00:10:54,833 --> 00:10:58,962 has a painting of James Vl dating from this time. 165 00:10:58,963 --> 00:11:01,751 James has just turned 24, 166 00:11:01,752 --> 00:11:05,241 he has already had two decades of his reign, 167 00:11:05,242 --> 00:11:07,991 and a very turbulent reign it has been. 168 00:11:07,992 --> 00:11:10,031 And remember, he's still quite a young king 169 00:11:10,032 --> 00:11:12,801 who's sort of dealing with noble factions and quarrels. 170 00:11:12,802 --> 00:11:15,321 And he doesn't have the all-important heir. 171 00:11:15,322 --> 00:11:18,551 So, am I right that, in '590, James has just got married? 172 00:11:18,552 --> 00:11:21,321 Yes. He's just got married to Anna of Denmark. 173 00:11:21,322 --> 00:11:23,171 She's just a teenager. 174 00:11:23,172 --> 00:11:24,911 She is his new bride. 175 00:11:24,912 --> 00:11:26,921 And of course, now James has the hope 176 00:11:26,922 --> 00:11:30,161 that they're going to have children, they're going to produce heirs. 177 00:11:30,162 --> 00:11:32,401 But there've been a few problems in getting her 178 00:11:32,402 --> 00:11:34,281 from Denmark to Scotland, haven't there? 179 00:11:34,282 --> 00:11:37,962 Anna's meant to be coming to Scotland, but there are these terrible storms 180 00:11:37,963 --> 00:11:39,712 and her ship springs a leak. 181 00:11:39,713 --> 00:11:42,991 And the admiral in charge of the fleet says, " No, we have to turn back." 182 00:11:42,992 --> 00:11:45,061 And James makes a decision. 183 00:11:45,062 --> 00:11:46,991 "I'm going to go to Anna!" 184 00:11:46,992 --> 00:11:49,832 Originally, he's driven back by storms. 185 00:11:49,833 --> 00:11:53,712 He has to go back into one of the Fife ports and then try again. 186 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:55,681 But eventually, they make it through. 187 00:11:55,682 --> 00:11:57,842 But he's had to leave his country. 188 00:11:57,843 --> 00:12:02,191 I mean, OK, he has taken a lot of his nobles and gentlemen with him, 189 00:12:02,192 --> 00:12:03,761 where he can keep an eye on them, 190 00:12:03,762 --> 00:12:06,471 but he has had to leave Scotland. 191 00:12:06,472 --> 00:12:08,251 It's a risk. Yes! 192 00:12:08,252 --> 00:12:11,321 So these storms, this business of the weather in the North Sea, 193 00:12:11,322 --> 00:12:13,761 is psychologically onerous to him. 194 00:12:13,762 --> 00:12:16,051 It's more than inconvenient, it's dangerous. 195 00:12:16,052 --> 00:12:19,712 He's had to take risks to his personal safety to overcome it. 196 00:12:19,713 --> 00:12:23,351 Yes. And remember, we've only James, there's no heir. 197 00:12:23,352 --> 00:12:27,712 If James goes down with the ship, Scotland is plunged into chaos. 198 00:12:27,713 --> 00:12:31,071 Louise, how familiar do you think James was 199 00:12:31,072 --> 00:12:33,521 with the idea of witches and witchcraft? 200 00:12:33,522 --> 00:12:37,531 Witchcraft has been around in Scotland from before the Reformation. 201 00:12:37,532 --> 00:12:41,881 The important thing is that people believed that witchcraft is real. 202 00:12:41,882 --> 00:12:45,671 And it's also about living in a providential world, 203 00:12:45,672 --> 00:12:48,681 where you believe God is looking over everything. 204 00:12:48,682 --> 00:12:51,431 So if the king is godly, then God blesses him, 205 00:12:51,432 --> 00:12:55,041 God blesses his rule, God blesses his country and people. 206 00:12:55,042 --> 00:12:58,271 Now, if you annoy God by letting sinners like witches go unpunished, 207 00:12:58,272 --> 00:13:01,051 well, that's when God might visit your country with famines 208 00:13:01,052 --> 00:13:03,551 and plagues and losses in battle. 209 00:13:03,552 --> 00:13:06,401 So, you know, to show you're a good, strong king, 210 00:13:06,402 --> 00:13:09,551 you must show you're a godly king, upholding God's law. 211 00:13:09,552 --> 00:13:13,282 And especially against the enemies of God, the witches. 212 00:13:15,062 --> 00:13:19,161 What better way to prove that you're a righteous and godly king 213 00:13:19,162 --> 00:13:23,331 than to triumph in a face-off with witches? 214 00:13:23,332 --> 00:13:28,631 That pamphlet, News From Scotland, was clearly good spin for James. 215 00:13:28,632 --> 00:13:32,761 But who were the real women of North Berwick, 216 00:13:32,762 --> 00:13:37,532 branded as witches, arrested and burnt at the stake? 217 00:13:43,362 --> 00:13:47,681 It's not easy to uncover the story of these ordinary women. 218 00:13:47,682 --> 00:13:51,671 They would have been illiterate, so left no testimony of their own, 219 00:13:51,672 --> 00:13:54,642 and many witch-trial documents have been lost. 220 00:13:56,482 --> 00:14:01,191 This book is a history of King James VI. 221 00:14:01,192 --> 00:14:05,431 It's contemporary, it was written in his lifetime. 222 00:14:05,432 --> 00:14:10,991 And there's a whole section in it about witches. 223 00:14:10,992 --> 00:14:15,722 And there should be a reference to the very first woman to be executed 224 00:14:15,723 --> 00:14:18,481 in the North Berwick witch-hunt. 225 00:14:18,482 --> 00:14:20,962 And here, I think... 226 00:14:20,963 --> 00:14:22,761 Yes! 227 00:14:22,762 --> 00:14:24,641 Is her name. 228 00:14:24,642 --> 00:14:26,572 Agnes Sampson. 229 00:14:33,512 --> 00:14:36,411 Agnes Sampson, "grace wyff". 230 00:14:36,412 --> 00:14:38,332 That means midwife. 231 00:14:40,843 --> 00:14:44,432 Somebody who brings you God's grace when you're giving birth. 232 00:14:47,432 --> 00:14:50,151 And it says, "alias call it", 233 00:14:50,152 --> 00:14:51,962 which means otherwise called, 234 00:14:51,963 --> 00:14:55,691 "the wyse wyff of Keyth". 235 00:14:55,692 --> 00:14:58,351 That means a wise woman, 236 00:14:58,352 --> 00:15:00,571 a... a folk healer, 237 00:15:00,572 --> 00:15:04,151 somebody with slightly mysterious Powers. 238 00:15:04,152 --> 00:15:06,843 And it looks like she's from Keyth. 239 00:15:10,882 --> 00:15:14,161 So, how on earth did Agnes Sampson, 240 00:15:14,162 --> 00:15:16,081 midwife and folk healer, 241 00:15:16,082 --> 00:15:18,912 get caught up in this brutal witch-hunt? 242 00:15:25,642 --> 00:15:29,231 The answer could lie in the role she played in her community, 243 00:15:29,232 --> 00:15:31,232 and in the tools of her trade. 244 00:15:33,132 --> 00:15:37,081 Hidden away in the storerooms at the National Museum of Scotland 245 00:15:37,082 --> 00:15:42,282 is a unique collection of everyday objects with magical powers. 246 00:15:47,122 --> 00:15:50,151 Well, what we have here is a selection of some of 247 00:15:50,152 --> 00:15:53,592 our large collection of charms and amulets, 248 00:15:53,593 --> 00:15:57,001 which are reputed to have superstitious powers. 249 00:15:57,002 --> 00:16:02,151 So these were objects put to, um... protect you, 250 00:16:02,152 --> 00:16:04,651 and they are also curative. 251 00:16:04,652 --> 00:16:08,231 So, what sort of a world are we looking into here, then? 252 00:16:08,232 --> 00:16:11,161 One... one where people probably believed in God, 253 00:16:11,162 --> 00:16:13,991 but also believed in a load of other sort of supernatural powers? Yes. 254 00:16:13,992 --> 00:16:18,561 We have religious belief, a belief in God, that is able to co-exist, 255 00:16:18,562 --> 00:16:22,491 in their mind, quite happily, with the supernatural. 256 00:16:22,492 --> 00:16:27,561 So a belief in fairies, malevolent elves, evil witches. 257 00:16:27,562 --> 00:16:31,321 What's this neat little black one that looks like a Christmas pudding tied up with a ribbon? 258 00:16:31,322 --> 00:16:35,491 This is a seedpod that's come all the way... Oh, is it? 259 00:16:35,492 --> 00:16:37,321 Possibly from the Caribbean, 260 00:16:37,322 --> 00:16:39,791 and it's floated on the Gulf Stream. 261 00:16:39,792 --> 00:16:43,881 So local people, ordinary people, would pick them up off the beaches 262 00:16:43,882 --> 00:16:47,691 and use these to help them during childbirth. 263 00:16:47,692 --> 00:16:51,481 And as a result, they are called Mary's Nut. 264 00:16:51,482 --> 00:16:53,511 Mary's Nut? Yep, or St Mary's Nut. 265 00:16:53,512 --> 00:16:57,592 So it's really Mother Mary's protection in childbirth. 266 00:16:57,593 --> 00:17:00,561 So it's that combination of a religious belief 267 00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:03,801 allied to something that has more of a folk belief 268 00:17:03,802 --> 00:17:05,722 and a superstitious belief. 269 00:17:05,723 --> 00:17:09,001 And is it the sort of thing that you'd lend to your friend when she was pregnant... 270 00:17:09,002 --> 00:17:11,231 Yeah, I think you could. ..and then pass it on? Yeah. 271 00:17:11,232 --> 00:17:13,201 But you'd probably want your own one, anyway, 272 00:17:13,202 --> 00:17:16,361 cos you're probably giving birth quite a lot. Oh, many times, yes. 273 00:17:16,362 --> 00:17:19,842 A lot of... a lot of use for the Mary's Nuts. Yeah. 274 00:17:19,843 --> 00:17:21,722 This one catches my eye. 275 00:17:21,723 --> 00:17:24,871 Well, this little cross is a wonderful example 276 00:17:24,872 --> 00:17:27,771 of something everyday that anyone could have owned. 277 00:17:27,772 --> 00:17:30,401 It's, um... made from rowan, 278 00:17:30,402 --> 00:17:33,592 and the rowan tree is supposed to be protective 279 00:17:33,593 --> 00:17:35,311 against evil spirits. 280 00:17:35,312 --> 00:17:38,852 So you might just carry this, you could have it on your person, 281 00:17:38,853 --> 00:17:41,231 or you could have it under your pillow. Mm-hm. 282 00:17:41,232 --> 00:17:45,852 And you planted rowan trees in your gardens to keep away the evil spirits. 283 00:17:45,853 --> 00:17:49,732 So, how does a folk healer fit into this world 284 00:17:49,733 --> 00:17:51,801 of the amulets and the charms? 285 00:17:51,802 --> 00:17:56,691 So you'll have had these as your everyday item for everyday protection, 286 00:17:56,692 --> 00:18:01,511 and you would bring in someone, like a healer, a wise woman, 287 00:18:01,512 --> 00:18:03,401 when something's gone really badly wrong. 288 00:18:03,402 --> 00:18:07,131 She will have had knowledge of herbs and so on, like a homeopath today. 289 00:18:07,132 --> 00:18:11,361 But they're also presumed to have magical powers. 290 00:18:11,362 --> 00:18:13,722 This sounds like witchcraft. 291 00:18:13,723 --> 00:18:16,722 What's the difference between folk healing and witchery? 292 00:18:16,723 --> 00:18:19,231 The witch is living within the community 293 00:18:19,232 --> 00:18:22,131 and associated with evil things. 294 00:18:22,132 --> 00:18:27,121 Evil spirits, nasty things happening, disease, crops failing. 295 00:18:27,122 --> 00:18:30,761 The folk healer is associated with good things. 296 00:18:30,762 --> 00:18:32,881 So, the folk healer is on your side... Yes. 297 00:18:32,882 --> 00:18:34,441 And the witch is against you? Yes. 298 00:18:34,442 --> 00:18:36,671 Indeed, she's a witch-buster. 299 00:18:36,672 --> 00:18:41,132 Because she's associated with getting rid of those evil spirits. 300 00:18:44,482 --> 00:18:48,121 Agnes would have been a pillar of her community. 301 00:18:48,122 --> 00:18:50,081 So, how did that change? 302 00:18:50,082 --> 00:18:53,001 And why did she become branded as a witch, 303 00:18:53,002 --> 00:18:55,442 accused of plotting to kill the king? 304 00:19:02,312 --> 00:19:05,762 I want to see where the wise wife of Keyth lived. 305 00:19:07,682 --> 00:19:11,081 Her village lies in the East Lothian countryside, 306 00:19:11,082 --> 00:19:14,681 about 20 miles south of North Berwick. 307 00:19:14,682 --> 00:19:17,441 So I guess that's the remains of the village. 308 00:19:17,442 --> 00:19:20,511 Looks like it's only one house just now. 309 00:19:20,512 --> 00:19:23,411 But up here this way, 310 00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:27,411 is the... the remains of the church. 311 00:19:27,412 --> 00:19:30,232 BlRD SONG 312 00:19:31,362 --> 00:19:35,842 I'm looking for the ruin, that I think is through this sea of nettles. 313 00:19:35,843 --> 00:19:37,962 Makes a change from being in the library! 314 00:19:39,312 --> 00:19:42,411 Ah! That's brilliant. 315 00:19:42,412 --> 00:19:46,081 MONASTIC CHANTlNG 316 00:19:46,082 --> 00:19:51,071 It's great to think that Agnes herself would have stood here. 317 00:19:51,072 --> 00:19:53,442 This would have been where she came... 318 00:19:55,642 --> 00:19:57,402 to services. 319 00:19:58,762 --> 00:20:00,961 Here since the 12th century, 320 00:20:00,962 --> 00:20:06,031 Agnes' village church would have been Catholic for almost 300 years. 321 00:20:06,032 --> 00:20:11,032 Decorated with murals and alive with the chanting of Latin Mass. 322 00:20:13,132 --> 00:20:18,371 But from the '560s, her church was becoming Protestant. 323 00:20:18,372 --> 00:20:20,571 The shock waves of the Reformation 324 00:20:20,572 --> 00:20:23,881 were felt even in remote villages like this one. 325 00:20:23,882 --> 00:20:28,602 The church was stripped of its Catholic adornments, 326 00:20:28,603 --> 00:20:31,612 the Latin Mass was banned. 327 00:20:31,613 --> 00:20:37,852 Now, Catholic belief and folk belief had sort of peacefully co-existed. 328 00:20:37,853 --> 00:20:40,722 But I'm starting to wonder whether, 329 00:20:40,723 --> 00:20:43,241 as Catholic gave way to Protestant, 330 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:47,442 a folk healer like Agnes might have been caught in the crossfire. 331 00:20:50,012 --> 00:20:53,281 Religious change brought huge upheaval, 332 00:20:53,282 --> 00:20:56,722 even for a small, rural village like Agnes'. 333 00:20:56,723 --> 00:20:59,142 And they faced other difficulties, too. 334 00:21:00,642 --> 00:21:03,842 It was a period that's sometimes called the Little Ice Age. 335 00:21:03,843 --> 00:21:05,561 Winters were getting colder. 336 00:21:05,562 --> 00:21:09,961 I do know that in the '580s there was a big famine in Scotland 337 00:21:09,962 --> 00:21:12,732 and population was rising. 338 00:21:12,733 --> 00:21:16,091 There was more competition for resources. 339 00:21:16,092 --> 00:21:19,081 There must have been more fear and suspicion 340 00:21:19,082 --> 00:21:21,291 and trouble of various kinds, 341 00:21:21,292 --> 00:21:24,801 as there always is when something bad happens. 342 00:21:24,802 --> 00:21:28,151 There must have been a sense that something was going wrong 343 00:21:28,152 --> 00:21:30,092 and that somebody must be to blame. 344 00:21:36,212 --> 00:21:40,281 A folk healer like Agnes trod a fine line 345 00:21:40,282 --> 00:21:44,681 between being someone people called upon when they needed help 346 00:21:44,682 --> 00:21:48,733 and someone they blamed when misfortune struck. 347 00:22:03,282 --> 00:22:07,932 It makes me wonder what triggered the first accusation against Agnes. 348 00:22:09,962 --> 00:22:13,401 News From Scotland claims she was denounced as a witch 349 00:22:13,402 --> 00:22:16,761 by a local servant girl called Geillis Duncane. 350 00:22:16,762 --> 00:22:20,171 But I can't find any evidence to back that up. 351 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:23,051 What I have uncovered is this document, 352 00:22:23,052 --> 00:22:25,172 describing a church leaders' meeting. 353 00:22:26,372 --> 00:22:28,881 '5th September, '589. 354 00:22:28,882 --> 00:22:31,401 The minutes of the synod say 355 00:22:31,402 --> 00:22:35,041 they've ordered the Presbytery of Haddington, 356 00:22:35,042 --> 00:22:38,011 that's the local church committee in Haddington, 357 00:22:38,012 --> 00:22:41,681 to summon before them Agnes Sampson, 358 00:22:41,682 --> 00:22:44,761 suspected of witchcraft. 359 00:22:44,762 --> 00:22:48,111 So here it is in black and white. 360 00:22:48,112 --> 00:22:51,011 On 15th September, 1589, 361 00:22:51,012 --> 00:22:54,091 we have the first reference to Agnes Sampson 362 00:22:54,092 --> 00:22:56,733 in connection with witchcraft. 363 00:22:57,962 --> 00:23:00,811 This is a year before Agnes was implicated 364 00:23:00,812 --> 00:23:03,812 in the North Berwick plot to kill the king. 365 00:23:05,012 --> 00:23:07,951 It doesn't tell me exactly what she's accused of, 366 00:23:07,952 --> 00:23:10,202 but we do know what happened next. 367 00:23:17,012 --> 00:23:19,251 By this time, the Scottish Church 368 00:23:19,252 --> 00:23:22,811 was in the hands of radical Protestant reformers 369 00:23:22,812 --> 00:23:24,691 who'd been led by john Knox. 370 00:23:24,692 --> 00:23:28,081 Knox had wanted to create a new godly state 371 00:23:28,082 --> 00:23:32,742 based on the pure message of the Bible - obedience and discipline. 372 00:23:32,743 --> 00:23:36,192 Ushering in a new age of religious puritanism in Scotland. 373 00:23:37,642 --> 00:23:39,252 CROW CAWS 374 00:23:42,242 --> 00:23:44,962 This is St Mary's Church in Haddington. 375 00:23:46,572 --> 00:23:49,451 Both North Berwick and Agnes' village of Keyth 376 00:23:49,452 --> 00:23:51,242 came under its jurisdiction. 377 00:23:53,302 --> 00:23:58,251 And it was here that church elders first put Agnes under investigation 378 00:23:58,252 --> 00:24:00,302 as a suspected witch. 379 00:24:06,483 --> 00:24:08,002 Hello? 380 00:24:10,402 --> 00:24:13,011 And this church was at the forefront 381 00:24:13,012 --> 00:24:16,682 of the religious and moral reforms sweeping the country. 382 00:24:18,122 --> 00:24:20,311 Hello. Will you be Stewart? Hello. I'm Stewart, yes. 383 00:24:20,312 --> 00:24:22,732 It's really nice to meet you, Stewart. Nice to meet you. 384 00:24:22,733 --> 00:24:25,561 Welcome to St Maryts. Thank you for having me. Not at all. 385 00:24:25,562 --> 00:24:27,732 So, Stewart, what's your connection 386 00:24:27,733 --> 00:24:30,561 to this really huge and beautiful church? 387 00:24:30,562 --> 00:24:33,651 Well, I'm a member of the church and I'm also one of a team 388 00:24:33,652 --> 00:24:36,921 who guide visitors around during our open season. 389 00:24:36,922 --> 00:24:40,091 And my late wife was a minister here for ten years. 390 00:24:40,092 --> 00:24:43,971 Is that quite unusual, to be a female minister in Scotland? Not nowadays. 391 00:24:43,972 --> 00:24:47,451 There have been female ministers in the Church of Scotland for over 50 years. 392 00:24:47,452 --> 00:24:50,651 Mm-hm. But it's relatively recent, yes. 393 00:24:50,652 --> 00:24:52,331 And my wife was the first one here. 394 00:24:52,332 --> 00:24:54,961 The first one here? A trailblazer! Absolutely. 395 00:24:54,962 --> 00:24:59,331 Now, I know... Every historian knows, that in the '6th century, 396 00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:01,961 the big thing that happens in Scotland is the Reformation, 397 00:25:01,962 --> 00:25:04,881 which is led by john Knox. 398 00:25:04,882 --> 00:25:07,101 He's... he's a Haddington boy, isn't he? 399 00:25:07,102 --> 00:25:10,451 Well, John Knox was born about 200 yards from where we're standing, 400 00:25:10,452 --> 00:25:12,041 on the other side of the river. 401 00:25:12,042 --> 00:25:14,971 And he was almost certainly baptised in this church. 402 00:25:14,972 --> 00:25:17,381 Oh, wow! So this church... 403 00:25:17,382 --> 00:25:19,171 He was baptised here? 404 00:25:19,172 --> 00:25:22,561 This is right at the cutting edge of the Reformation, then, this place. Yes. 405 00:25:22,562 --> 00:25:25,371 And how would you characterise this... 406 00:25:25,372 --> 00:25:29,131 this Scottish Reformation religion that john Knox was keen on? 407 00:25:29,132 --> 00:25:31,911 Of course, it was a much simpler, stricter and very... 408 00:25:31,912 --> 00:25:34,291 In some ways, very harsh religion. 409 00:25:34,292 --> 00:25:36,681 So, what kind of behaviour 410 00:25:36,682 --> 00:25:40,451 did the Reformed Scottish Church disapprove of? 411 00:25:40,452 --> 00:25:43,121 What we you might describe as frivolous behaviour. 412 00:25:43,122 --> 00:25:45,291 Singing, dancing, drinking. 413 00:25:45,292 --> 00:25:47,331 And, of course, fornication. 414 00:25:47,332 --> 00:25:50,171 You could be called up in front of the congregation 415 00:25:50,172 --> 00:25:52,281 if you're misbehaving in some way. 416 00:25:52,282 --> 00:25:55,771 And that's because the devil is just around the corner 417 00:25:55,772 --> 00:25:59,531 and your soul is at risk of eternal damnation if you step out of line. 418 00:25:59,532 --> 00:26:02,732 Yep. And john Knox didn't approve of women, did he? 419 00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:07,841 Well, he didn't approve of women being in positions of authority. Mm. 420 00:26:07,842 --> 00:26:13,051 So, if the new church did not like to have women in positions of authority, 421 00:26:13,052 --> 00:26:16,531 someone like Agnes, who was a wise woman, 422 00:26:16,532 --> 00:26:19,371 who had the trust of the community, 423 00:26:19,372 --> 00:26:22,051 do you think maybe they felt threatened by that? 424 00:26:22,052 --> 00:26:24,011 That;s quite possible, yes. 425 00:26:24,012 --> 00:26:25,321 BELL TOLLS 426 00:26:25,322 --> 00:26:28,041 I wonder if Agnes was aware 427 00:26:28,042 --> 00:26:30,321 that she was being watched by the church 428 00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:34,492 as she went about her business as a midwife and a healer? 429 00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:36,931 It's starting to look like there's no place 430 00:26:36,932 --> 00:26:40,742 in this new Protestant order for women like her. 431 00:26:40,743 --> 00:26:43,732 She is a woman in a position of authority. 432 00:26:43,733 --> 00:26:46,091 She's got this power of healing, 433 00:26:46,092 --> 00:26:48,482 people in the community trust her, 434 00:26:48,483 --> 00:26:50,851 need her, look up to her. 435 00:26:50,852 --> 00:26:53,922 Do the church authorities feel a bit threatened by that? 436 00:26:55,682 --> 00:27:00,322 Agnes' fate now lay in the hands of these fervent Protestants. 437 00:27:02,052 --> 00:27:05,641 And these religious leaders were absorbing new ideas 438 00:27:05,642 --> 00:27:09,362 circulating in Europe about the nature of witchcraft 439 00:27:09,363 --> 00:27:10,812 and how to deal with it. 440 00:27:12,002 --> 00:27:16,171 They were laid out in a book written by two German Catholic theologians 441 00:27:16,172 --> 00:27:18,411 in the '5th century. 442 00:27:18,412 --> 00:27:20,891 This is a direct translation 443 00:27:20,892 --> 00:27:23,762 of a text that's more than 500 years old. 444 00:27:25,322 --> 00:27:28,742 It's called Malleus Maleficarum - 445 00:27:28,743 --> 00:27:31,492 the Hammer of Witches. 446 00:27:31,493 --> 00:27:34,742 And it's a sort of a... a manual 447 00:27:34,743 --> 00:27:36,761 of how to spot a witch 448 00:27:36,762 --> 00:27:40,811 and what sort of things they're going to get up to. 449 00:27:40,812 --> 00:27:43,051 One of the things that pleases me about the book 450 00:27:43,052 --> 00:27:46,971 is that it's a sort of series of, um... questions and answers. 451 00:27:46,972 --> 00:27:50,291 Like a listicle that you might get in a magazine. 452 00:27:50,292 --> 00:27:53,091 How are witches transported from place to place? 453 00:27:53,092 --> 00:27:55,761 How do witches perform their spells? 454 00:27:55,762 --> 00:27:58,561 How is a formal pact with evil made? 455 00:27:58,562 --> 00:28:01,851 Central to this text was the idea that witches 456 00:28:01,852 --> 00:28:06,613 were in cahoots with a dangerous enemy, the devil. 457 00:28:07,722 --> 00:28:11,691 It's all part of a general turning up of the temperature 458 00:28:11,692 --> 00:28:14,051 on religion in the '6th century. 459 00:28:14,052 --> 00:28:17,541 You've got new Protestants saying, "No, this is the way to do religion!" 460 00:28:17,542 --> 00:28:20,721 And you've got those Catholics, who suddenly become a lot more defensive, 461 00:28:20,722 --> 00:28:23,001 and they say, "No! We feel under attack now. 462 00:28:23,002 --> 00:28:25,401 "This is the way to do religion." 463 00:28:25,402 --> 00:28:29,171 So that's why people just start to think 464 00:28:29,172 --> 00:28:31,921 that it's a matter of life and death, this. 465 00:28:31,922 --> 00:28:35,811 The devil is really wandering around your church, 466 00:28:35,812 --> 00:28:37,811 tempting you, tempting your wife, 467 00:28:37,812 --> 00:28:40,451 and it's like the end of days. 468 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:43,772 In the 16th century, everybody gets utterly obsessed with the devil. 469 00:28:44,772 --> 00:28:47,492 Demonology books like this made it clear 470 00:28:47,493 --> 00:28:51,493 the devil was specifically recruiting women to do his evil bidding. 471 00:28:53,412 --> 00:28:56,851 Why is it that more witches are female than men? 472 00:28:56,852 --> 00:29:00,411 I'm quite interested in what they're going to say about that. 473 00:29:00,412 --> 00:29:03,891 Well, it's basically because of the wickedness of women, 474 00:29:03,892 --> 00:29:06,461 as spoken of in the Bible. 475 00:29:06,462 --> 00:29:09,081 In Ecclesiasticus 25 - 476 00:29:09,082 --> 00:29:12,841 "There is no wrath above the wrath of a woman! 477 00:29:12,842 --> 00:29:15,541 "I had rather dwell with a lion and a dragon 478 00:29:15,542 --> 00:29:18,182 "than to keep house with a wicked woman." 479 00:29:21,462 --> 00:29:24,921 "All witchcraft comes from carnal lust. 480 00:29:24,922 --> 00:29:28,641 "Which is, in women, insatiable." 481 00:29:28,642 --> 00:29:32,891 And that's why the devil's able to recruit them more easily. 482 00:29:32,892 --> 00:29:35,001 They're so desperate to fill their wombs 483 00:29:35,002 --> 00:29:37,781 that they will consort even with devils. 484 00:29:37,782 --> 00:29:40,292 If there aren't enough men to go around, devils will do. 485 00:29:41,892 --> 00:29:47,411 "The witches meet together in conclave on a set day. 486 00:29:47,412 --> 00:29:50,921 "And the devil appears to them 487 00:29:50,922 --> 00:29:53,921 "in the assumed body of a man." 488 00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:57,341 And he says to them, "Look, if you have sex with me, ladies, 489 00:29:57,342 --> 00:30:00,282 "I will give you long life. That is the deal!" 490 00:30:01,942 --> 00:30:06,201 And this witch is showing her allegiance to the devil 491 00:30:06,202 --> 00:30:08,541 by kissing his backside. 492 00:30:08,542 --> 00:30:10,412 LUCY LAUGHS 493 00:30:11,503 --> 00:30:13,811 Oh, dear! 494 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:17,011 What has surprised me, reading through this book, 495 00:30:17,012 --> 00:30:20,091 and I really wasn't aware of this, 496 00:30:20,092 --> 00:30:25,201 was just how much witchcraft and sex seemed to be mixed up together. 497 00:30:25,202 --> 00:30:28,771 Fear about sexual matters and the lust of women 498 00:30:28,772 --> 00:30:31,901 seems to be absolutely fundamental. 499 00:30:31,902 --> 00:30:36,811 Now, this brings to life the devil 500 00:30:36,812 --> 00:30:40,011 having his meeting with all the witches who were in his power. 501 00:30:40,012 --> 00:30:44,441 So that's like our coven of witches meeting in the church in North Berwick. 502 00:30:44,442 --> 00:30:48,051 Here's the devil, sitting on his throne, with his horns. 503 00:30:48,052 --> 00:30:51,971 And this witch here, she's got her fire and her cauldron. 504 00:30:51,972 --> 00:30:54,251 Look, she's putting in little cats, I think. 505 00:30:54,252 --> 00:30:57,901 Oh, and look, here's a witch taking off on her broomstick. 506 00:30:57,902 --> 00:31:01,341 I like the way that the things that witches used for their magic, 507 00:31:01,342 --> 00:31:05,691 cauldrons, broomsticks, um... cats, even, 508 00:31:05,692 --> 00:31:07,981 are just... just things from around the house. 509 00:31:07,982 --> 00:31:10,551 They're ordinary, domestic things. 510 00:31:10,552 --> 00:31:12,732 And the things that women would use, not men. 511 00:31:19,812 --> 00:31:21,531 So, poor Agnes! 512 00:31:21,532 --> 00:31:25,212 She's had the bad luck to be born at a really bad time. 513 00:31:26,522 --> 00:31:29,441 For over 100 years now, this conspiracy theory, 514 00:31:29,442 --> 00:31:33,201 kicked off by theologians, has been growing in power. 515 00:31:33,202 --> 00:31:35,851 People now genuinely believe 516 00:31:35,852 --> 00:31:38,622 that witches are largely female, 517 00:31:38,623 --> 00:31:40,781 that they gather in groups, 518 00:31:40,782 --> 00:31:44,931 that they have this kinky sexual pact with the devil, 519 00:31:44,932 --> 00:31:47,081 and that their number is growing. 520 00:31:47,082 --> 00:31:49,281 More and more witches are being recruited. 521 00:31:49,282 --> 00:31:52,061 So, what are the authorities going to do 522 00:31:52,062 --> 00:31:54,922 to deal with these wicked women? 523 00:31:57,702 --> 00:32:00,811 For centuries, accusations of witchcraft 524 00:32:00,812 --> 00:32:04,062 had largely been settled within the local community. 525 00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:09,271 But now, driven by Protestantism 526 00:32:09,272 --> 00:32:12,061 that cast witches as the devil's agents, 527 00:32:12,062 --> 00:32:15,781 the authorities had to crack down. 528 00:32:15,782 --> 00:32:21,861 Well, this is the Scottish Witchcraft Act. 529 00:32:21,862 --> 00:32:27,651 So this act was drawn up by Scotland's Protestant Reformers. 530 00:32:27,652 --> 00:32:30,492 John Knox may even have had a hand in it. 531 00:32:30,493 --> 00:32:33,622 It is statute and ordained 532 00:32:33,623 --> 00:32:37,291 that no manner of person or persons, 533 00:32:37,292 --> 00:32:40,201 of whatever estate, degree or condition, 534 00:32:40,202 --> 00:32:42,851 is to use any manner of witchcraft. 535 00:32:42,852 --> 00:32:45,521 And if you do do that, 536 00:32:45,522 --> 00:32:47,721 they'll be under pain of death. 537 00:32:47,722 --> 00:32:50,001 It actually says under the pain of "deid". 538 00:32:50,002 --> 00:32:52,891 That means death. You will be killed. 539 00:32:52,892 --> 00:32:57,332 It has become a capital of fence for the first time. 540 00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:02,771 So the act is really clear that the whole weight of the law 541 00:33:02,772 --> 00:33:05,802 is going to come down on anybody doing witchcraft. 542 00:33:08,493 --> 00:33:11,291 But there's a... It seems to me there's a huge problem here. 543 00:33:11,292 --> 00:33:15,341 It doesn't actually say what witchcraft is! 544 00:33:15,342 --> 00:33:19,411 So witchcraft is open to interpretation. 545 00:33:19,412 --> 00:33:22,221 And that means the law is open to interpretation. 546 00:33:22,222 --> 00:33:24,503 And that seems to me to be very dangerous. 547 00:33:26,052 --> 00:33:30,291 The Witchcraft Act put in place a legal framework 548 00:33:30,292 --> 00:33:32,941 for the prosecution of witches. 549 00:33:32,942 --> 00:33:35,061 Now, if enough evidence could be gathered, 550 00:33:35,062 --> 00:33:38,502 a suspected witch could be tried in the courts 551 00:33:38,503 --> 00:33:40,701 and sentenced to death. 552 00:33:40,702 --> 00:33:42,243 GULLS CRY 553 00:33:49,052 --> 00:33:53,221 By autumn 1590, the church elders in Haddington 554 00:33:53,222 --> 00:33:56,931 had been investigating and building a case against Agnes 555 00:33:56,932 --> 00:33:58,652 for more than a year. 556 00:34:00,253 --> 00:34:04,061 I'm told that very few witch-trial documents still exist, 557 00:34:04,062 --> 00:34:08,012 but remarkably, Agnes' have survived. 558 00:34:09,253 --> 00:34:13,161 I can't access the originals in the National Records of Scotland, 559 00:34:13,162 --> 00:34:16,892 but the History Centre in Haddington has a copy. 560 00:34:18,812 --> 00:34:22,611 Incredibly, they include detailed transcripts 561 00:34:22,612 --> 00:34:24,422 of the evidence against Agnes. 562 00:34:25,612 --> 00:34:29,532 It says here - Here follows the articles of her "dittay"... 563 00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:32,771 whereof she was convicted 564 00:34:32,772 --> 00:34:35,651 by number 53! 565 00:34:35,652 --> 00:34:38,011 Now, a dittay, 566 00:34:38,012 --> 00:34:41,091 it's from the French, dittay meaning said. 567 00:34:41,092 --> 00:34:43,061 These are the things that were said against her, 568 00:34:43,062 --> 00:34:44,771 and there were 53 charges. 569 00:34:44,772 --> 00:34:46,971 That's quite a lot, isn't it? 570 00:34:46,972 --> 00:34:51,021 OK. Here, she's charged with using of witchcraft in healing 571 00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:54,221 of john Thompson in "Dirletoune", 572 00:34:54,222 --> 00:34:55,882 who remained... 573 00:34:57,332 --> 00:34:59,091 Oh, I see what she's done. 574 00:34:59,092 --> 00:35:03,571 She's... She used witchcraft to heal john Thompson, 575 00:35:03,572 --> 00:35:06,421 but he remained "crepill", that's crippled, 576 00:35:06,422 --> 00:35:08,931 notwithstanding thereof. 577 00:35:08,932 --> 00:35:12,242 I can see that if you'd... you'd booked Agnes to heal you 578 00:35:12,243 --> 00:35:14,531 and then it failed, 579 00:35:14,532 --> 00:35:16,661 then he'd want his money back, wouldn't he? 580 00:35:16,662 --> 00:35:22,061 You might be so cross that you reported her to the authorities. 581 00:35:22,062 --> 00:35:23,701 Let's have a look at this one. 582 00:35:23,702 --> 00:35:27,731 Item - for coming to Bessie Aitkenhead 583 00:35:27,732 --> 00:35:32,451 and using her prayer and devilish charms 584 00:35:32,452 --> 00:35:35,061 for the recovering of her health to her. 585 00:35:35,062 --> 00:35:37,252 Well, here's someone who's pleased. 586 00:35:37,253 --> 00:35:43,091 Betty... Bessie... Aitkenhead has been cured. 587 00:35:43,092 --> 00:35:45,961 So when I look at the list of people who've been 588 00:35:45,962 --> 00:35:50,601 either cured or not cured by Agnes, 589 00:35:50,602 --> 00:35:53,291 it's a bit confusing, cos you can't see what the problem is. 590 00:35:53,292 --> 00:35:57,611 She's sort of going about her business as a healer. 591 00:35:57,612 --> 00:36:00,581 But perhaps the problem is 592 00:36:00,582 --> 00:36:04,011 that this old, traditional way of doing things, of healing people, 593 00:36:04,012 --> 00:36:06,171 has now become suspicious 594 00:36:06,172 --> 00:36:09,071 because people are increasingly worried about witches. 595 00:36:09,072 --> 00:36:13,717 There's a lot of talk here about witchcraft and prayers... 596 00:36:13,718 --> 00:36:15,317 to the devil. 597 00:36:15,318 --> 00:36:19,228 I mean, I cannot know whether all of these people, 598 00:36:19,229 --> 00:36:21,127 who were Agnes' clients, 599 00:36:21,128 --> 00:36:24,077 whether they really said these things, 600 00:36:24,078 --> 00:36:28,437 or were these important people who were determined to catch a witch, 601 00:36:28,438 --> 00:36:31,887 were they taking the evidence and twisting it 602 00:36:31,888 --> 00:36:34,767 and putting on this whole witchy layer? 603 00:36:34,768 --> 00:36:37,307 There's much to question about this document, 604 00:36:37,308 --> 00:36:42,957 but it does offer a tantalising glimpse of Agnes herself. 605 00:36:42,958 --> 00:36:46,238 We're told that she's a widow and has children, 606 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,238 and that she learnt her folk-healing skills from her father. 607 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,157 So I love the way that hidden within this formal document 608 00:36:54,158 --> 00:36:57,317 written by men who had it in for Agnes, 609 00:36:57,318 --> 00:37:00,448 we're actually meeting the real person. 610 00:37:02,008 --> 00:37:05,128 And then, here... Now, this is really extraordinary. 611 00:37:07,298 --> 00:37:10,797 Because this is just what you don't normally get. 612 00:37:10,798 --> 00:37:15,037 You do not normally get the recorded words of somebody 613 00:37:15,038 --> 00:37:19,607 living in a tiny village in remote Scotland 614 00:37:19,608 --> 00:37:22,397 in the '590s. 615 00:37:22,398 --> 00:37:25,878 That's not somebody that we normally hear from in history. 616 00:37:27,598 --> 00:37:30,667 But here, we do, because recorded here 617 00:37:30,668 --> 00:37:35,197 are the words to Agnes' prayer to her patients 618 00:37:35,198 --> 00:37:37,397 for life or death. 619 00:37:37,398 --> 00:37:41,157 All kinds of ills that ever may be 620 00:37:41,158 --> 00:37:45,798 In Christ's name, I conjure thee. 621 00:37:47,288 --> 00:37:49,007 I conjure thee... 622 00:37:49,008 --> 00:37:51,877 Both more and less with all the virtues of the Mass 623 00:37:51,878 --> 00:37:54,597 And right so the nails sore 624 00:37:54,598 --> 00:37:57,488 That nailed Jesus and no more. 625 00:37:57,489 --> 00:38:00,507 And right so the same blood 626 00:38:00,508 --> 00:38:03,368 That reeked over the ruthful rood. 627 00:38:03,369 --> 00:38:05,847 Forth of the flesh and forth of the bone 628 00:38:05,848 --> 00:38:08,567 And in the earth and in the stone, 629 00:38:08,568 --> 00:38:11,088 I conjure thee in God's name. 630 00:38:13,138 --> 00:38:15,927 These are supposed to be her very words. 631 00:38:15,928 --> 00:38:17,648 It's like she's speaking to us. 632 00:38:22,798 --> 00:38:25,087 It gives a wonderful, tingly feeling. 633 00:38:25,088 --> 00:38:28,517 This is... this is... this is why we do this, 634 00:38:28,518 --> 00:38:30,808 to bring people back from the dead. 635 00:38:32,318 --> 00:38:34,157 But one thing is clear, 636 00:38:34,158 --> 00:38:38,207 even if some of Agnes' clients were grateful for her powers of healing, 637 00:38:38,208 --> 00:38:41,877 and even if she claimed that her prayer was to God, 638 00:38:41,878 --> 00:38:45,207 the authorities were intent on painting her as a witch 639 00:38:45,208 --> 00:38:46,798 in league with the devil. 640 00:38:48,728 --> 00:38:52,008 And there's something else in here that's really intriguing. 641 00:38:55,158 --> 00:38:58,128 People are summoning her from far and wide. 642 00:38:58,129 --> 00:39:01,847 And it's not just villagers who are after her services, it's... it's the toffs. 643 00:39:01,848 --> 00:39:04,208 Posh people are after her, too. 644 00:39:05,398 --> 00:39:09,007 Perhaps her far-reaching reputation as a healer 645 00:39:09,008 --> 00:39:12,867 helps explain why, when the king was looking for a scapegoat 646 00:39:12,868 --> 00:39:15,368 for the storms that beset his ship, 647 00:39:15,369 --> 00:39:18,948 Agnes Sampson was a ready name on people's lips. 648 00:39:23,568 --> 00:39:26,647 In late autumn 1590, 649 00:39:26,648 --> 00:39:31,037 just weeks after the alleged witches' gathering at North Berwick, 650 00:39:31,038 --> 00:39:33,397 Agnes was arrested, 651 00:39:33,398 --> 00:39:36,038 taken to Edinburgh and imprisoned. 652 00:39:37,288 --> 00:39:42,078 And in early December, she was brought here to be interrogated. 653 00:39:44,168 --> 00:39:47,567 This is the Palace of Holyroodhouse. 654 00:39:47,568 --> 00:39:51,657 This was the home of King James Vl. 655 00:39:51,658 --> 00:39:55,607 This part of the palace here has been altered, 656 00:39:55,608 --> 00:40:00,118 but this part is the original palace that Agnes would have seen. 657 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,118 She would have set eyes on these two 658 00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,397 rather sinister-looking turrets. 659 00:40:07,398 --> 00:40:11,958 So I really am walking in Agnes' footsteps at this moment. 660 00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:32,757 This is the actual chamber in which James VI received visitors. 661 00:40:32,758 --> 00:40:35,087 His bedchamber is just through there. 662 00:40:35,088 --> 00:40:39,927 And it was here, in this room, to the best of our knowledge, 663 00:40:39,928 --> 00:40:43,928 that Agnes came face-to-face with the king. 664 00:40:47,528 --> 00:40:50,478 What an extraordinary encounter. 665 00:40:51,758 --> 00:40:55,728 A woman from a tiny rural village brought before the king. 666 00:40:57,528 --> 00:41:00,727 A Protestant monarch determined to prove he had the power 667 00:41:00,728 --> 00:41:02,448 to drive out the devil. 668 00:41:03,758 --> 00:41:07,088 So, what on earth happened in this room? 669 00:41:09,288 --> 00:41:11,688 News From Scotland offers this account... 670 00:41:13,129 --> 00:41:17,657 Agnes Sampson was brought here to Holyroodhouse 671 00:41:17,658 --> 00:41:20,837 before the king's majestry 672 00:41:20,838 --> 00:41:23,297 and sundry other of the nobility of Scotland. 673 00:41:23,298 --> 00:41:27,937 But it says here, she stood stiffly in the denial 674 00:41:27,938 --> 00:41:31,378 of all that was laid to her charge. So she stood up to them! 675 00:41:31,379 --> 00:41:33,167 This is a fearsome situation, 676 00:41:33,168 --> 00:41:36,477 to be questioned by the king himself in his royal palace, 677 00:41:36,478 --> 00:41:39,408 but she wasn't giving way an inch. 678 00:41:41,528 --> 00:41:46,088 Despite this, at some point, Agnes cracked and confessed. 679 00:41:52,528 --> 00:41:55,447 It's chilling to realise that all the detail 680 00:41:55,448 --> 00:41:58,887 of what happened in North Berwick, as recounted in News From Scotland, 681 00:41:58,888 --> 00:42:01,837 actually comes from the confession 682 00:42:01,838 --> 00:42:06,527 Agnes made right here in Holyrood Palace. 683 00:42:06,528 --> 00:42:10,477 It was Agnes who said 200 witches gathered together 684 00:42:10,478 --> 00:42:13,118 and used a dead man and a christened cat 685 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,287 to raise the storm that almost killed the king. 686 00:42:16,288 --> 00:42:18,688 This is her story. 687 00:42:19,728 --> 00:42:22,677 But why would she say all these things? 688 00:42:22,678 --> 00:42:26,687 Reading on, I think I can see why. 689 00:42:26,688 --> 00:42:30,817 Agnes Sampson had all her hair shaven off 690 00:42:30,818 --> 00:42:33,317 in each part of her body 691 00:42:33,318 --> 00:42:36,767 and her head thrawn with a rope. 692 00:42:36,768 --> 00:42:40,397 But during this time, she would not confess anything, 693 00:42:40,398 --> 00:42:44,918 until the devil's mark was found upon her privities. 694 00:42:48,338 --> 00:42:52,017 Now, to my mind, this is... this is torture 695 00:42:52,018 --> 00:42:56,838 of a really horrible sexual nature. 696 00:42:59,249 --> 00:43:01,168 It's a sort of a sexual assault. 697 00:43:03,918 --> 00:43:07,657 And then, when this happened, when they did this to her, 698 00:43:07,658 --> 00:43:12,448 she immediately confessed whatsoever was demanded of her. 699 00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:17,697 And... goodness me, I 'd do exactly the same thing. 700 00:43:17,698 --> 00:43:19,328 Poor Agnes. 701 00:43:21,838 --> 00:43:26,637 It's hard to be sure whether these descriptions of torture are true. 702 00:43:26,638 --> 00:43:31,198 Was this the sort of treatment inflicted on women like Agnes? 703 00:43:37,638 --> 00:43:42,328 To find out, I'm travelling to For far, just north of Dundee. 704 00:43:43,678 --> 00:43:47,687 When a witch-hunt happened here in the '660s, 705 00:43:47,688 --> 00:43:53,287 more than 50 women were accused from this small town, alone. 706 00:43:53,288 --> 00:43:56,447 Ah! It's Judith! Hello! 707 00:43:56,448 --> 00:43:59,807 I meet you in the flesh at last! I know. 708 00:43:59,808 --> 00:44:03,527 One local historian has been doing ground-breaking research 709 00:44:03,528 --> 00:44:07,378 into the experiences of these so-called witches. 710 00:44:07,379 --> 00:44:11,727 She's uncovered shocking new evidence of their interrogation 711 00:44:11,728 --> 00:44:14,697 from unlikely historical documents - 712 00:44:14,698 --> 00:44:17,957 the town's financial records. 713 00:44:17,958 --> 00:44:22,687 Accounts of the town officials sounds a bit dull. 714 00:44:22,688 --> 00:44:24,047 LUCY CHUCKLES 715 00:44:24,048 --> 00:44:26,637 Yes, it does, if you... 716 00:44:26,638 --> 00:44:29,457 if you don't realise what's going on. 717 00:44:29,458 --> 00:44:32,407 And what's going on in For far at that time 718 00:44:32,408 --> 00:44:35,047 is a witch-hunt that's been described as 719 00:44:35,048 --> 00:44:37,128 being like no other in Scotland. 720 00:44:37,129 --> 00:44:39,248 And when you follow the money, 721 00:44:39,249 --> 00:44:41,278 you find some really interesting things. 722 00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:46,447 OK, on the first page, the first section 723 00:44:46,448 --> 00:44:49,167 that you examine here of Girsell Simpson. 724 00:44:49,168 --> 00:44:51,097 She was a suspected witch. 725 00:44:51,098 --> 00:44:56,417 But she was arrested and she was put in the tollbooth. 726 00:44:56,418 --> 00:44:59,897 It says - An item to Andrew Taylor 727 00:44:59,898 --> 00:45:02,767 foreclosing of the high tollbooth yay time, 728 00:45:02,768 --> 00:45:05,118 that Girsell Simpson was therein 729 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,847 and foretaking down of them again. 730 00:45:07,848 --> 00:45:11,527 Oh! So, when the suspected witch was in the prison, 731 00:45:11,528 --> 00:45:13,557 they closed up the windows... Yep. 732 00:45:13,558 --> 00:45:16,277 And then, when she had been executed, 733 00:45:16,278 --> 00:45:18,727 they opened up the windows again. That's right. 734 00:45:18,728 --> 00:45:22,087 And that would be to keep her in the dark? 735 00:45:22,088 --> 00:45:24,118 Well, it's the devil, and you don't want the devil 736 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,457 cursing the people in the street when they walk by. Wow! 737 00:45:26,458 --> 00:45:28,167 Oh, look at this! 738 00:45:28,168 --> 00:45:32,737 For the making of two pairs of stocks for the witches. Oh, yes. 739 00:45:32,738 --> 00:45:34,687 The stocks are really interesting, 740 00:45:34,688 --> 00:45:37,248 cos stocks sound like they're quite innocent. 741 00:45:37,249 --> 00:45:40,047 You know, we have images of people in stocks outside. 742 00:45:40,048 --> 00:45:42,537 Being hung up like this and people throw eggs at them. Yeah. 743 00:45:42,538 --> 00:45:44,128 That's not what's happening here. 744 00:45:44,129 --> 00:45:48,457 In Scotland at the time, stocks were used on the accused witches 745 00:45:48,458 --> 00:45:50,128 as a form of torture. 746 00:45:50,129 --> 00:45:55,238 It says here that candles are bought for those who did watch 747 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,617 Girsell Simpson, who's the suspected witch. 748 00:45:57,618 --> 00:46:00,097 What does that mean, to watch her, do you think? 749 00:46:00,098 --> 00:46:02,217 Watching usually comes with waking. 750 00:46:02,218 --> 00:46:05,817 So watching and waking was a form of torture in itself. 751 00:46:05,818 --> 00:46:07,357 It's sleep deprivation. 752 00:46:07,358 --> 00:46:10,407 Later on, we'll see that there... 753 00:46:10,408 --> 00:46:13,217 there are other prisoners in. They're male prisoners, 754 00:46:13,218 --> 00:46:15,917 and they're murderers, and they're not being watched. 755 00:46:15,918 --> 00:46:18,767 There's no candles being paid for for them. 756 00:46:18,768 --> 00:46:22,767 Mm! So, the suspected witch is treated worse than the murderers? 757 00:46:22,768 --> 00:46:24,767 Yes. Wow! Absolutely. 758 00:46:24,768 --> 00:46:27,477 These women, they're a danger 759 00:46:27,478 --> 00:46:30,617 because they endangered the whole of society. 760 00:46:30,618 --> 00:46:34,129 Yeah. They put the idea of the godly society at risk. 761 00:46:35,498 --> 00:46:39,207 If you go down to 13th September... Yes. 762 00:46:39,208 --> 00:46:43,337 John Kincaid and David Cowan come to For far. 763 00:46:43,338 --> 00:46:45,928 So John Kincaid is the famous witch-pricker. 764 00:46:46,978 --> 00:46:49,367 The witch-pricker. Yeah. 765 00:46:49,368 --> 00:46:53,417 That's a very resonant phrase. What exactly does that mean? 766 00:46:53,418 --> 00:46:56,557 Well, they pay for two... trots preens for him. 767 00:46:56,558 --> 00:47:01,847 Here it is. This... this is the purchase of two preens 768 00:47:01,848 --> 00:47:04,177 for the pricking of Catherine Porter. 769 00:47:04,178 --> 00:47:06,008 Preens are pins. 770 00:47:06,009 --> 00:47:10,607 They're made of iron and they're usually about three inches long. 771 00:47:10,608 --> 00:47:13,077 Or some people would say... Three inches? Yeah. 772 00:47:13,078 --> 00:47:16,397 Oh, not tiny little dressmaking pins, big...? Big pins. 773 00:47:16,398 --> 00:47:20,187 And what ex...? Why... why do they want to stick these pins 774 00:47:20,188 --> 00:47:21,927 into the suspected witch? 775 00:47:21,928 --> 00:47:23,697 They're trying to find the devil's mark. 776 00:47:23,698 --> 00:47:26,417 What's that? It was usually thought to be a blue mark. 777 00:47:26,418 --> 00:47:29,617 It could be a mole, it could be an extra nipple, it could be scars. 778 00:47:29,618 --> 00:47:33,537 Anything that they thought was unusual on a woman's body 779 00:47:33,538 --> 00:47:36,567 that doesn't respond to pain or it doesn't bleed. 780 00:47:36,568 --> 00:47:38,767 That was evidence, pure and simple, 781 00:47:38,768 --> 00:47:41,447 that you had convened with the devil. 782 00:47:41,448 --> 00:47:45,487 So what they would do was, they would... they would shave the woman, 783 00:47:45,488 --> 00:47:47,637 they would shave all her hair, 784 00:47:47,638 --> 00:47:50,177 and they would... She would be naked. 785 00:47:50,178 --> 00:47:53,837 She's in front of a panel of men. 786 00:47:53,838 --> 00:47:59,647 She's having these pins stuck in all over her body. 787 00:47:59,648 --> 00:48:02,447 And they would prick people for hours. 788 00:48:02,448 --> 00:48:05,337 There's mention in one of the Privy Council documents 789 00:48:05,338 --> 00:48:08,417 of a woman dying from witch-pricking. 790 00:48:08,418 --> 00:48:10,977 It's... it's a really... 791 00:48:10,978 --> 00:48:14,847 It's... it's a horrible psycho sexual form of torture. Absolutely. 792 00:48:14,848 --> 00:48:18,167 What really shocks me, Judith, is that the evidence is here. 793 00:48:18,168 --> 00:48:20,857 That they've recorded it for us to see. Indeed. 794 00:48:20,858 --> 00:48:23,087 When I read these treasurers' accounts, 795 00:48:23,088 --> 00:48:25,287 and I've read them many times, 796 00:48:25,288 --> 00:48:29,417 the hairs never cease to stand up on the back of my neck. Um... 797 00:48:29,418 --> 00:48:33,447 And I think, how could they have treated people like this? 798 00:48:33,448 --> 00:48:36,077 And then, you have to remember what they had in their mind. 799 00:48:36,078 --> 00:48:39,128 And in their mind, they were absolutely convinced 800 00:48:39,129 --> 00:48:41,008 that they were not people. 801 00:48:41,009 --> 00:48:43,287 You know... They were devils. Yeah. Inhuman. 802 00:48:43,288 --> 00:48:44,717 They are the devil. 803 00:48:44,718 --> 00:48:48,617 How long have you been trawling through all of these records, Judith? 804 00:48:48,618 --> 00:48:50,847 About ten years. Oh, wow! 805 00:48:50,848 --> 00:48:52,697 At least ten years. 806 00:48:52,698 --> 00:48:56,157 And what... what motivates you to do this? 807 00:48:56,158 --> 00:48:58,487 Well, erm... 808 00:48:58,488 --> 00:49:00,697 one, it's just so incredibly interesting, 809 00:49:00,698 --> 00:49:04,368 and two, there's the real sense of injustice. 810 00:49:07,978 --> 00:49:12,487 Judith's research shows how the authorities devised a system 811 00:49:12,488 --> 00:49:15,287 for rooting-out witches. 812 00:49:15,288 --> 00:49:20,297 Torture was an acceptable means to elicit a confession. 813 00:49:20,298 --> 00:49:24,447 And the so-called devil's mark, which wasn't too hard to find, 814 00:49:24,448 --> 00:49:26,528 provided undeniable proof. 815 00:49:27,658 --> 00:49:29,537 Under this kind of duress, 816 00:49:29,538 --> 00:49:33,778 in December '590, Agnes made her confession. 817 00:49:37,528 --> 00:49:41,487 Remarkably, the National Records of Scotland holds an account 818 00:49:41,488 --> 00:49:46,407 of what was said during Agnes' actual interrogation. 819 00:49:46,408 --> 00:49:50,008 It also offers clues as to why Agnes' case 820 00:49:50,009 --> 00:49:53,488 triggered a craze for witch-hunts across the country. 821 00:49:55,088 --> 00:49:57,018 Is this word-for-word, then? 822 00:49:57,019 --> 00:49:59,268 Was there someone in the room making notes? 823 00:49:59,269 --> 00:50:00,727 How was it put together? 824 00:50:00,728 --> 00:50:02,697 This has been written up afterwards. 825 00:50:02,698 --> 00:50:05,357 There was probably a scribe in the room at the time 826 00:50:05,358 --> 00:50:07,447 jotting down a few things, 827 00:50:07,448 --> 00:50:11,217 but this isn't a transcript of her actual words, 828 00:50:11,218 --> 00:50:14,018 this is a summary in the third person. 829 00:50:14,019 --> 00:50:16,337 You know... you know, "She confessed that... 830 00:50:16,338 --> 00:50:18,087 "She denied that..." 831 00:50:18,088 --> 00:50:20,177 Um... and so on. 832 00:50:20,178 --> 00:50:23,258 And we see breaks in the document, where, 833 00:50:23,259 --> 00:50:26,797 perhaps she was tortured. It's hard to tell. 834 00:50:26,798 --> 00:50:29,087 We do know in general terms that she was tortured. 835 00:50:29,088 --> 00:50:32,527 And we can see this text as a kind of negotiation, 836 00:50:32,528 --> 00:50:35,807 because Agnes probably didn't know anything about those storms at the time, 837 00:50:35,808 --> 00:50:37,647 but they're asking her about it, 838 00:50:37,648 --> 00:50:40,297 so she knows she can't just remain silent, 839 00:50:40,298 --> 00:50:43,287 she has to tell a story, otherwise she'll get tortured more. 840 00:50:43,288 --> 00:50:45,437 Do you think that the interrogators were asking 841 00:50:45,438 --> 00:50:48,487 what we might call leading questions to get a particular answer? 842 00:50:48,488 --> 00:50:51,927 Oh, undoubtedly, yes. You know, "Tell us about when you met the devil". 843 00:50:51,928 --> 00:50:54,727 And, " How does one worship the devil?" 844 00:50:54,728 --> 00:50:59,297 And so, one of the things that witches do 845 00:50:59,298 --> 00:51:03,977 is that they kiss the devil's arse. 846 00:51:03,978 --> 00:51:07,567 That is... Does it say that in her confession? Yes. 847 00:51:07,568 --> 00:51:10,577 Before they departed, they all kissed his arse. 848 00:51:10,578 --> 00:51:14,497 That almost certainly comes from a leading question from somebody 849 00:51:14,498 --> 00:51:17,697 who has come across the European learned idea 850 00:51:17,698 --> 00:51:19,657 of how witches worship the devil. 851 00:51:19,658 --> 00:51:21,527 And Agnes has been made to say it. 852 00:51:21,528 --> 00:51:25,057 If people torture you enough, you do get so confused 853 00:51:25,058 --> 00:51:27,337 that you lose confidence in your own memory 854 00:51:27,338 --> 00:51:30,697 and you start thinking, "The interrogators are right 855 00:51:30,698 --> 00:51:32,977 "and perhaps I am a witch after all". 856 00:51:32,978 --> 00:51:34,797 That's awful. They're breaking her body 857 00:51:34,798 --> 00:51:37,337 but also her mind at the same time. Yeah, I'm afraid so. Yeah. 858 00:51:37,338 --> 00:51:39,337 It seems to me that they're fitting her up. 859 00:51:39,338 --> 00:51:42,297 You certainly could say that. I mean, they're doing it unwittingly. 860 00:51:42,298 --> 00:51:44,607 They're terrifyingly sincere, these guys. 861 00:51:44,608 --> 00:51:46,737 You know, they think they're getting the truth. 862 00:51:46,738 --> 00:51:49,898 They are trying to save themselves and everybody 863 00:51:49,899 --> 00:51:52,287 from the terrifying power of the devil. 864 00:51:52,288 --> 00:51:55,018 And, you know, it... it certainly, 865 00:51:55,019 --> 00:51:57,337 by this time, has become a conspiracy. 866 00:51:57,338 --> 00:52:00,217 They... they think it isn't just one witch, you know, 867 00:52:00,218 --> 00:52:02,057 it's a group who has done this. 868 00:52:02,058 --> 00:52:07,607 And this is what the elite understand that witches will do. 869 00:52:07,608 --> 00:52:09,167 They will gather in groups. 870 00:52:09,168 --> 00:52:13,417 So they're asking Agnes, you know, "Who else was there?" 871 00:52:13,418 --> 00:52:17,577 Whether these were names that she gave, or names that were fed to her 872 00:52:17,578 --> 00:52:20,857 and then she repeated, you can't always tell. 873 00:52:20,858 --> 00:52:23,497 You ask for names of accomplices 874 00:52:23,498 --> 00:52:25,447 and you get a sort of snowball effect. 875 00:52:25,448 --> 00:52:29,377 And once you've got one witch, you can then go to another and another and another 876 00:52:29,378 --> 00:52:32,577 and, you know, the snowball can go on getting larger 877 00:52:32,578 --> 00:52:34,148 until everyone's sick of it. 878 00:52:34,149 --> 00:52:37,217 How many people eventually get pulled into the whole thing? 879 00:52:37,218 --> 00:52:41,888 How many people, ultimately, is one of the very difficult questions to answer. 880 00:52:41,889 --> 00:52:44,888 Almost certainly dozens, probably hundreds. 881 00:52:44,889 --> 00:52:47,347 But, you know, many of the records have disappeared. 882 00:52:47,348 --> 00:52:50,727 It's very hard to put numbers on it, for that reason. 883 00:52:50,728 --> 00:52:55,138 Julian, why is the North Berwick witch-hunt, in particular, so important? 884 00:52:55,139 --> 00:52:58,937 There have been earlier trials with individual witches, 885 00:52:58,938 --> 00:53:02,337 but they never get into large numbers. 886 00:53:02,338 --> 00:53:04,447 They don't manage to interrogate them properly 887 00:53:04,448 --> 00:53:06,247 and it all fizzles out. 888 00:53:06,248 --> 00:53:09,177 This is the first big, successful one 889 00:53:09,178 --> 00:53:13,067 where we see the witch-hunters really working out how to do it. 890 00:53:13,068 --> 00:53:15,297 So this provides a sort of blueprint 891 00:53:15,298 --> 00:53:18,937 for how to have what you might call a successful witchcraft panic 892 00:53:18,938 --> 00:53:21,777 that actually leads to large numbers of executions. 893 00:53:21,778 --> 00:53:25,727 And versions of that then get repeated time and again 894 00:53:25,728 --> 00:53:28,427 over the next 100 years or so in Scotland. 895 00:53:28,428 --> 00:53:30,068 SOMBRE STRlNG RECITAL 896 00:53:33,648 --> 00:53:38,312 What's so horrifying is that clearly, if you torture someone, 897 00:53:38,313 --> 00:53:41,162 they'll say anything to make it stop. 898 00:53:41,163 --> 00:53:44,773 It's this that made Agnes into a witch. 899 00:53:46,433 --> 00:53:49,282 And, in a final tragic irony, 900 00:53:49,283 --> 00:53:52,572 offer up the names of 59 other people, too, 901 00:53:52,573 --> 00:53:55,483 who'd go on to face the same fate. 902 00:53:56,583 --> 00:53:58,152 But here's the problem - 903 00:53:58,153 --> 00:54:02,762 she's now officially confessed to causing storms 904 00:54:02,763 --> 00:54:05,033 and to conspiring to kill the king. 905 00:54:10,493 --> 00:54:13,642 Six weeks after her confession, 906 00:54:13,643 --> 00:54:15,793 Agnes was put on trial in Edinburgh. 907 00:54:17,663 --> 00:54:21,562 The building Agnes' trial took place in stood right here. 908 00:54:21,563 --> 00:54:24,922 It was in the shadow of the great cathedral. 909 00:54:24,923 --> 00:54:29,772 She would have been the only woman in a courtroom full of men. 910 00:54:29,773 --> 00:54:31,802 The trial took one day, 911 00:54:31,803 --> 00:54:34,033 and the verdict was guilty. 912 00:54:39,953 --> 00:54:44,792 The following day, 28th January, '59', 913 00:54:44,793 --> 00:54:47,593 Agnes was brought here, to Castle hill. 914 00:54:50,014 --> 00:54:53,512 She was to be strangled and burnt at the stake. 915 00:54:53,513 --> 00:54:57,913 A sentence reserved only for the most dangerous of heretics. 916 00:54:59,643 --> 00:55:04,842 I can't begin to imagine how petrified she must have felt 917 00:55:04,843 --> 00:55:09,202 as she was being brought here, knowing what was going to happen. 918 00:55:09,203 --> 00:55:10,643 RAVEN CROAKS 919 00:55:21,683 --> 00:55:23,203 WlND WHISTLES 920 00:55:24,453 --> 00:55:29,312 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, 921 00:55:29,313 --> 00:55:32,202 nor standeth in the way of sinners, 922 00:55:32,203 --> 00:55:36,442 nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 923 00:55:36,443 --> 00:55:39,962 But his delight is in the law of the Lord, 924 00:55:39,963 --> 00:55:45,083 and his law doth he meditate day and night. 925 00:55:46,643 --> 00:55:49,452 In this moment, religious zeal, 926 00:55:49,453 --> 00:55:52,562 fear of the devil, and an ambitious king 927 00:55:52,563 --> 00:55:57,032 had collided to create a system of persecution, 928 00:55:57,033 --> 00:55:59,754 from which there was no escape. 929 00:56:01,213 --> 00:56:06,033 And Agnes Sampson paid the ultimate price. 930 00:56:16,283 --> 00:56:19,072 This event, it makes me angry. 931 00:56:19,073 --> 00:56:24,873 It seems like a terrible, tragic miscarriage of justice. 932 00:56:24,874 --> 00:56:27,312 This is a woman who tried to help people, 933 00:56:27,313 --> 00:56:29,884 but who ended up being punished for it. 934 00:56:36,563 --> 00:56:41,513 Agnes' case set the blueprint for a century of witch-hunts. 935 00:56:43,073 --> 00:56:47,763 Soon after her death, the Scottish King became James I of England, 936 00:56:47,764 --> 00:56:51,682 and extended the English witchcraft laws, 937 00:56:51,683 --> 00:56:55,003 leading to witch-hunts south of the border, too. 938 00:56:55,004 --> 00:56:58,492 But it was Scotland that would have one of the highest rates 939 00:56:58,493 --> 00:57:01,003 of witch-killing anywhere in Europe. 940 00:57:01,004 --> 00:57:04,642 In total, 2,50O people would be executed, 941 00:57:04,643 --> 00:57:07,512 the vast majority, women. 942 00:57:07,513 --> 00:57:09,212 These were mothers, 943 00:57:09,213 --> 00:57:11,433 sisters, daughters. 944 00:57:13,963 --> 00:57:18,003 And imagine what it was like for other women in this society. 945 00:57:18,004 --> 00:57:22,393 The fear they must have felt that they could be next. 946 00:57:24,723 --> 00:57:28,922 The only national monument to the thousands killed 947 00:57:28,923 --> 00:57:33,162 is this small drinking fountain, known as the Witches' Well. 948 00:57:33,163 --> 00:57:37,322 But a campaign is now under way for a more significant memorial 949 00:57:37,323 --> 00:57:39,953 and an official pardon. 950 00:57:40,953 --> 00:57:42,802 It's hard to know what to do 951 00:57:42,803 --> 00:57:46,672 with these dark chapters from our past. 952 00:57:46,673 --> 00:57:49,732 It seems to me there's a double injustice 953 00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:52,082 for the women caught up in the witch-hunts. 954 00:57:52,083 --> 00:57:53,962 They were wrongly convicted, 955 00:57:53,963 --> 00:57:57,032 but on top of that, their stories have been forgotten. 956 00:57:57,033 --> 00:58:00,922 They've been buried under a pile of stereotypes. 957 00:58:00,923 --> 00:58:05,032 Now is the time to restore the voices of women 958 00:58:05,033 --> 00:58:07,033 like Agnes Sampson... 959 00:58:08,243 --> 00:58:10,453 and to make sure they're heard. 960 00:58:13,033 --> 00:58:15,672 How did a catastrophic plague 961 00:58:15,673 --> 00:58:20,162 that wiped out around half the population change Britain? 962 00:58:20,163 --> 00:58:22,922 I am tempted to think that these " men thought, 963 00:58:22,923 --> 00:58:25,013 "Right, the plague is coming, 964 00:58:25,014 --> 00:58:28,003 "we're jolly well not going to go to work, we're going to go to the pub. 965 00:58:28,004 --> 00:58:30,963 "Because tomorrow, we die". 80718

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