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♪ All we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is, all we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is lie and wait
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♪ All we do is,
all we do is lie and wait
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♪ I've been upside down
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♪ I don't wanna be the right way round
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♪ Can't find paradise on the ground ♪
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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- I thought you'd be asleep.
- No, Flo had a nightmare.
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Oh, no. Is she all right now?
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Fine, yeah. I think she's just
feeling a bit unsettled.
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Yeah, sorry about that,
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the brief came in
just as I was leaving and...
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Well, your clerk said that
you weren't in the office?
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Well, I went to The Oaks to have
some supper while I worked.
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What was it like, Col?
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The city in the '80s.
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Was it really as brutal
as everyone says?
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Why don't you just ask me
outright, Simon?
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Did it screw me up so much
I could have killed someone?
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Did it?
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No, it didn't.
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I know I've messed up here,
hugely, but, please...
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Please...
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Can I never have to answer
that question again?
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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I went for a drive.
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To... think how I could explain
to you...
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...what happened to me.
- What happened to you?
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So someone did this to you, did they?
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You had nothing to do
with this decision?
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Of course I had something to do with it.
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What I wanted to explain was,
at that point in my life,
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I believed, wrongly, obviously...
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...that I had no other choices.
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Since when does becoming
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a prostitute end up
a woman's only choice in life?
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What has to have gone wrong
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for that to be the best option
available to you?
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I mean, you weren't a kid, Sara.
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This was 1989, so you were 21!
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And I... I know you lost your parents,
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and I know school hadn't worked out
for you and I know life had been tough.
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But this?
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So, please... Please explain to me,
what happened in your life
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that made having sex with men
for money your only option?
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I don't know.
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I just...
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I'd lost my way.
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And this man, the one that died.
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I was abroad when he died,
Hass, it wasn't me.
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Where?
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It was when I was in Italy.
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You've heard me talk about
Italy a million times, it was then.
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And you can prove that,
can you, the specific dates?
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To you or the police?
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To the police.
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I don't know, I think so.
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I think I have photos,
but I'd need to check.
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But if I can't, Hass,
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I swear on our children's lives,
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whatever happened to him, it wasn't me.
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I'm going to sleep
in the spare room tonight.
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- Please, Hassan...
- We never speak to anyone else
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about this, Sara.
It never leaves our house.
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Please. Ever.
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You've... You've broken my heart,
my love.
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You've broken my heart.
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Thank you for coming with me.
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It helped, having you there.
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You know, um, my kids,
they're not much younger than you,
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and, erm, their dad, he died,
when they were little.
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And I know it's different,
because you've only just learnt about...
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But if you ever wanted to compare notes,
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over a beer,
I think they'd be very happy to.
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You know there's something
not right with me, don't you?
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And with my "wiring".
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So this is, what I'm saying is, erm,
I'd like a beer,
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but I never really get asked, so, erm...
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I might be shit at it.
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Well, luckily they're both
very good at "beer",
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so I'm sure they could
show you the ropes.
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Shall I text you with some dates?
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Yeah. Yeah. I'd like that.
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Okay.
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Er, thanks again.
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- Hope you feel better.
- Thanks, sweetheart.
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- Bye, Mum.
- Bye.
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- Yousef?
- I'm late!
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And we haven't been able to
locate any details of your movements
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between your last contact with David
and when you reported him missing,
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so, er, is it possible that
you could just, you know,
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jot something down for us?
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You want me to remember what I
was doing for 48 hours, 27 years ago?
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Tragically, I'm sure those few days
are ingrained in your memory.
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Yeah, I'll do my best.
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Thank you, Tessa. Speak to you soon.
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Yeah.
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Okay. So what about Colin?
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I presume that a place like
the Maudsley is secure?
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Well, it'd have secure units,
but it's not a prison,
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so I'd imagine if you wanted to get out,
you could.
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To kill a man.
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Fran's talking to the hospital today,
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checking up on what records
they have of her.
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And any joy with Sinead Quinn?
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Not yet. We do know that
she was released from Holloway Prison
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under the Good Friday Agreement, but...
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- Yeah.
...that's about it so far.
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Okay.
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- Marion?
- Hmm?
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Zoe was supposed to be here
for an 11:30 chemo?
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Oh, do you want me to call her parents?
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Er, no, it's fine, I'll do it.
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Mr Osborne left us in late March, 1990,
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following an incident here,
on the evening of March the 16th, 1990.
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An allegation was made by a temp,
by the name of,
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er, Maria Gonzalez,
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that at some point during
a bonus celebration party,
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a serious sexual assault was
perpetrated by Mr Osborne,
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on Ms Gonzalez,
in an office lavatory cubicle.
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What sexual assault?
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Er, she said he raped her.
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Sorry, we've done a full sweep
of Mr Osborne's criminal history
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and there's no record
of any rape allegation.
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Well, no, there wouldn't be.
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It was handled internally.
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For various reasons,
it was never reported to the police.
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- I'm sorry.
- Are you dumb, bruv?
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Leave him alone.
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Hey, Yousef? Come on, what's up?
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So you are not under arrest,
and you're free to end this interview
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whenever you like.
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So, can I ask you, Sara,
what services you offered?
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Just normal.
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Just straight sex?
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Yeah.
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Which is what your friend
Samir Khan said.
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However, we do now know that, er,
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David Walker's sexual tastes
were not that normal.
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That he both liked to hurt
and be hurt by women.
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University College Hospital,
less than a couple of 100 yards
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from your old King's Cross flat.
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Do you remember attending UCH A&E
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on the 16th of February, 1990?
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The evening of the same day, in fact,
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that you sent your address
to David Walker's pager.
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No.
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Well, the hospital records show
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that you presented
with a suspected dislocated jaw.
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You don't recall sustaining
this rather serious injury?
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Not really, it was
an occupational hazard.
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Well, indeed.
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And we we're wondering whether it was
David Walker that inflicted this injury.
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I don't remember him.
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And the next time he turned up,
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- he got even more violent with you...
- No.
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- And in self-defence...
- No, I don't remember this man, and...
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When he was murdered,
I was living in Italy.
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So you say you left the UK
in March, Sara,
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and you went to Europe for nine months?
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I don't "say it", I did.
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Where did you stay?
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Hostels, pensions. I moved around.
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- Was that on your own?
- Yeah.
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- Did you work?
- Yeah, in bars and clubs.
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- So, you have no payslips or...
- It was cash in hand.
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And did you make any friends
who could vouch for you?
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I made friends, yeah, er,
the sort you do on holiday, but...
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None I could remember 30 years later.
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Mmm.
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We just need some proof, Sara,
that you...
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I've already said, check...
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Passport records or however you do it.
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We're in the process of
doing that, but it's not that easy,
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so anything else you can give us
will be enormously helpful.
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Okay, thank you for your time.
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Thanks.
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Sorry, one thing.
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Just upping sticks like that,
and heading off abroad for nine months,
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that's quite a big deal, isn't it?
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Anything in particular prompt that move?
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It wasn't any one thing
if that's what you're implying.
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It was my life.
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I knew if I'd stayed any longer
I would have died.
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And I wanted to live.
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We'll be in touch.
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Well, the parents thought she was here,
so when I called,
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they then looked in her room
and they found her diary.
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Were you drinking with her
two nights ago, Marion?
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Absolutely not.
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I mean, I was in the pub,
but I went there on my own.
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But you told her to leave,
that she was underage,
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- and it was completely inappropriate?
- Yes, I did.
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Well, then, can you explain
why it says in her diary
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that you bought her a Malibu and orange.
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- I bought her one drink.
- Oh...
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And then I let her sit with me for
two minutes and then I left.
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Okay, well, I need to speak
to my line manager,
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actually I think you need to go home.
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- What?
- How can you not get
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that this has completely
overstepped the boundaries?
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- Nicola, please...
- She's a 17-year-old kid
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with a very weakened immune system.
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And you're meant to be caring for her,
not getting her drunk.
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- Nicola...
- Look, your judgement's gone.
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I'm so sorry. I... I...
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I'm not in a very good place
at home at the moment,
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there's a few things in my
personal life that are going wrong.
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Can you please just let me
speak to the parents?
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Nope, you're going absolutely
nowhere near the parents,
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they're on their way over here now.
I can tell you they're not happy.
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- Go home, Marion.
- Did she... Did she say anything,
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in her diary, about where she was going?
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No, and she's not answering her phone.
No one has any idea where she is.
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And it was a woman
who made the allegation?
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Yes, why?
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Because Colin Osborne's gay.
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Right.
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Well, I'm gonna try and track her down
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and I've got the name of the lawyer
from Klein Egerton
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who handled it at the time,
and I think he's still alive.
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- We'll speak to you later.
- Okay, Guv.
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So maybe it was this
that actually prompted his breakdown.
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The timing seems a bit
coincidental, doesn't it?
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Although, how it connects
to David Walker...
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If it even does.
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If it even does. Yeah.
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You took your time, fam.
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Whatever it is, bruv,
it can't be that bad.
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Mate, I'm telling you.
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Yeah, except you ain't.
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You got to swear, Mus,
you never tell anyone.
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Not Ollie, not Piot, no one.
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I promise, man, it's cool.
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S'up? This is Zoe,leave a voicemail.
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Marion? You okay?
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I'm in trouble, Tony.
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- Where are you?
- Borough Market.
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Okay, stay there, I'm coming now.
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We need more.
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We need to buy furniture
and stuff, five ain't enough.
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I told your boyfriend, no more.
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I'll tell them about the car.
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Go ahead, tell them, you're not
getting another fucking cent out of me.
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- Boss?
- Jake.
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So, I just had a phone call
off the woman that researched
248
00:19:59,420 --> 00:20:02,014
- the society photos of David Walker?
- Right.
249
00:20:02,300 --> 00:20:05,531
This is the woman from the local
Conservative Party office?
250
00:20:05,620 --> 00:20:07,212
Yeah, name of Mandy Halcross.
251
00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:11,455
It turns out she's worked there
for years, in one capacity or another,
252
00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:15,089
but her very first job there
was in 1989,
253
00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:16,978
her mum ran the canteen
254
00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:19,016
and she used to help out
during the summer holidays.
255
00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:20,569
Right.
256
00:20:22,180 --> 00:20:26,810
So she was 12 years old
in the summer of '89.
257
00:20:29,260 --> 00:20:31,569
And she's never told anyone this before,
258
00:20:31,660 --> 00:20:33,616
as she said she's always
felt too ashamed,
259
00:20:33,740 --> 00:20:38,734
but she just told me that during
that five-week holiday period,
260
00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:40,253
on two separate occasions,
261
00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:43,416
David Walker sexually assaulted her.
262
00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:50,096
- Boss, you there?
- Yeah, I'm here.
263
00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:53,458
How credible did you feel she was?
264
00:20:53,540 --> 00:20:54,973
Well...
265
00:20:55,060 --> 00:20:58,018
There were no witnesses,
there'll be no forensic,
266
00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:02,651
er, the suspect's dead, so all
I've got to go on here is instinct.
267
00:21:04,260 --> 00:21:05,818
And I believed her.
268
00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:10,456
It's nearly 30 years
since this happened to her,
269
00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:12,929
I'm the first person
she's ever told, and...
270
00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:16,694
It still ripped her apart
when she did.
271
00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:20,496
There are no newspapers involved,
there's no conspiracy websites,
272
00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:23,856
she has absolutely nothing to gain
by telling me what she did.
273
00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:29,618
So, yeah, I believed her. 100%.
274
00:21:33,020 --> 00:21:34,772
Get everyone together
for a full briefing,
275
00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:36,213
we'll be back in half an hour.
276
00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:37,689
Guv.
277
00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:50,377
I don't know the man
that they're asking about.
278
00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:52,416
And of course
I would never have hurt anyone.
279
00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:54,138
I mean, I know you know that.
280
00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:57,018
But the thing is the police
have found out some other stuff
281
00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,978
about some people
that I hung about with
282
00:22:00,060 --> 00:22:01,254
in the '80s that I shouldn't have.
283
00:22:01,340 --> 00:22:02,568
What people?
284
00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:06,209
I lived in a flat... I shared a flat.
285
00:22:06,340 --> 00:22:09,696
I shared... I shared a bed with a woman
286
00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:12,610
called Sinead Quinn, who, er...
287
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:17,492
She was a... A Republican.
288
00:22:18,220 --> 00:22:19,448
What do you mean a Republican?
289
00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:21,979
An Irish Republican...
290
00:22:22,915 --> 00:22:24,915
IRA
291
00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:25,975
No!
292
00:22:26,060 --> 00:22:27,493
- I was fucked-up, Tony...
- When was this?
293
00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:28,695
Er, it was in the late '80s or so...
294
00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:31,340
This is... This is Enniskillen,
295
00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:32,853
- this is the Baltic Exchange!
- I know.
296
00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:34,972
- How long were you with her for?
- No more than a year.
297
00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:36,209
- A year?
- No, I never met...
298
00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:37,813
- I never saw any of...
- But you slept with someone
299
00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:39,697
who thinks that blowing up
kids is an acceptable way to...
300
00:22:39,780 --> 00:22:40,849
Yeah, but like I said
I was messed-up, Tony.
301
00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:42,419
Oh, yeah, we know
you were messed-up, Marion,
302
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,569
we've known that for years!
303
00:22:43,660 --> 00:22:45,776
What no one's ever had
the remotest idea of is why?
304
00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:50,413
Jesus Christ!
305
00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:54,210
How two sisters from exactly
the same upbringing...
306
00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:55,494
Yeah, I was wondering
how long it would take
307
00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,013
before you brought my sister in to this.
308
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,249
No, I'm not bringing
your sister into this.
309
00:22:58,340 --> 00:22:59,375
Oh, God, if you think
she's so marvellous, Tony,
310
00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:00,609
why didn't you just marry her?
311
00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:02,019
I mean, you've clearly always
wanted to fuck her.
312
00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:06,451
Do you know? I have no idea who you are.
313
00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:07,814
Really?
314
00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:11,811
Oh, that's it. Walk away, off you go.
315
00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:13,449
Bye!
316
00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:16,372
You know what, Marion?
317
00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:19,249
I'm beginning to think you could
have done anything!
318
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,815
If he abused a kid, I don't give a toss
what happened to him in the past.
319
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,494
In fact, if he was abused as a kid,
it makes it almost worse,
320
00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:30,969
he'd know...
He'd know how appalling it was.
321
00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:36,498
Except he would have been
a very messed-up human being himself.
322
00:23:37,220 --> 00:23:38,255
Obviously.
323
00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:39,659
Yeah, sorry, don't buy that.
324
00:23:41,340 --> 00:23:43,410
What do you mean you
"don't buy that"?
325
00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:48,175
That's just a fact,
that's not my opinion.
326
00:23:48,340 --> 00:23:49,375
That's a f...
327
00:23:51,460 --> 00:23:53,496
Oh, for God's sake, come on, move! Move!
328
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:06,653
What's up, bruv?
329
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:09,335
Oh, my days, Jamal,
you'll never guess what.
330
00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:10,569
What?
331
00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:11,854
Well, he told me not to say
anything, but...
332
00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:13,009
What?
333
00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:25,495
Seriously, what do you
mean you don't buy it?
334
00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:28,568
You really wanna get into this?
335
00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:30,890
A person who's been
sexually abused as a child
336
00:24:30,980 --> 00:24:32,493
will be a very damaged...
337
00:24:32,620 --> 00:24:33,689
Yes, and?
338
00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:35,811
Doesn't give them the right to go
and abuse other kids, does it?
339
00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:37,692
No, of course it doesn't give them
the bloody right,
340
00:24:37,780 --> 00:24:39,611
I'm not talking about
trying to justify it,
341
00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,258
I'm talking about
trying to understand...
342
00:24:41,340 --> 00:24:42,898
Yeah, understanding paedophiles, nice.
343
00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:44,857
No. No, no. Whoa.
No, no, hang on, hang on.
344
00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:48,410
When a kid who's been abused goes off
the rails and does something awful,
345
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:50,616
we don't just dismiss them
as monsters, do we?
346
00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:52,537
Er, no, because they're children.
347
00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:56,169
Right, right, so when does that
kid suddenly stop being deserving
348
00:24:56,260 --> 00:24:57,409
of some understanding?
349
00:24:57,820 --> 00:25:01,290
Is it on their 10th birthday?
Or their 12th? Or their 14th?
350
00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:03,771
- How about when they're an adult?
- Er, no.
351
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,897
That's when we let them
take proper responsibility.
352
00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:08,096
And we punish them
and we protect society from them.
353
00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:09,249
Why the hell does it also mean
354
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:10,978
we suddenly just stop
trying to understand them,
355
00:25:11,060 --> 00:25:12,413
so maybe they don't do it again?
356
00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:17,250
Because most abuse victims
don't go and abuse others,
357
00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:21,289
and the ones that do, choose to. That
is definitely beyond my understanding.
358
00:25:21,380 --> 00:25:22,779
Are we done?
359
00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:35,133
So, as of today, we are now splitting
the investigation into two strands.
360
00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:37,290
The first will follow our
existing line of enquiry,
361
00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:40,178
that one of our persons of interest
murdered David Walker
362
00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:42,455
because of some connection
around the time of his death.
363
00:25:42,660 --> 00:25:44,412
Sara Mahmoud's as a prostitute,
364
00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:48,692
we're looking at a possible
IRA motive with Marion Kelsey.
365
00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:51,772
And his wife remains of interest,
that's for obvious reasons.
366
00:25:51,860 --> 00:25:56,775
And then Colin Osborne, the only person
so far that we've conclusively proved
367
00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:58,578
actually met David Walker.
368
00:25:58,820 --> 00:26:01,414
Murray, I want you to focus
all your attention now
369
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,809
on finding the Klein Egerton
temp, Maria Gonzalez.
370
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:07,051
And, Fran, we really need to
speak to Sinead Quinn.
371
00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:10,974
And any news yet on Colin and
Sara's alibis for May the eighth?
372
00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:13,255
- Still waiting on both, I'm afraid.
- Okay, we keep on that.
373
00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:19,571
And then we move
into very different territory.
374
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,570
We already know that David Walker
had a lot of secrets,
375
00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:27,175
and now it seems
we've just found another.
376
00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:32,939
So, myself, Jake and DI Khan are
starting a second line of inquiry,
377
00:26:33,020 --> 00:26:35,170
to investigate
if David Walker was murdered
378
00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:38,937
not because he was going to expose
what happened to him
379
00:26:39,260 --> 00:26:43,572
30 years before his death, and not
because of any of these reasons,
380
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:48,132
but maybe as retribution for
sexual abuse he committed himself.
381
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,295
Now, two of these, at least,
382
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:56,934
Colin Osborne and Sara Mahmoud,
have dysfunction in their lives
383
00:26:57,820 --> 00:27:00,812
very consistent with a childhood trauma.
384
00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:03,813
Now, all of them seem to have had
some sort of connection
385
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:05,970
with David Walker,
in the months before he died.
386
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:10,290
I think we have to consider
the possibility
387
00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:14,373
that one and maybe all of them,
388
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,694
were victims of David Walker as children
389
00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:20,691
and then years later
took their revenge.
390
00:27:21,580 --> 00:27:26,051
So I want to interrogate every single
aspect of David Walker's adult life,
391
00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:28,935
from when he left school
to when he died.
392
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:32,175
Okay?
393
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:35,619
Thank you.
394
00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:46,538
I assume you're going to speak
to the wife first?
395
00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:49,495
Why don't I do her?
396
00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:55,129
You start chasing down his past.
397
00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:50,455
Right.
398
00:28:50,540 --> 00:28:54,089
But obviously she can't read anything
because you've got a password on it?
399
00:28:55,540 --> 00:28:56,814
Oh, Jesus, Col.
400
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,579
I kept meaning to, I just...
401
00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:02,093
I forgot. I'm sorry.
402
00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:07,659
Right, well. What is on there then
that we need to be worried about?
403
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:09,049
Erm...
404
00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:12,859
You texted me after I told you
about the police interviewing me...
405
00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:16,899
Oh, you are joking me! Jesus! Colin!
406
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:18,095
I know, I know.
407
00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:22,936
Okay. Look, she's a smack addict,
408
00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:24,812
so chances are,
409
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:27,689
ten minutes after she nicked it,
she'd sold it for 20 quid.
410
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,816
Chances are we will be fine.
411
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:32,572
- Okay?
- Daddy Simon!
412
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,011
I think it's all gonna
be absolutely fine.
413
00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:37,129
Coming.
414
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:43,009
How?
415
00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:46,135
I'm not sure. I guess he must
have heard us last night.
416
00:29:46,340 --> 00:29:48,376
And then told someone, who told someone.
417
00:29:48,780 --> 00:29:50,498
I think the school might know, as well.
418
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:52,253
So we will have to tell the other two.
419
00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:14,297
My colleague, DI Khan,
is speaking to Mrs Halcross again
420
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:17,338
right now, but from the conversation
we've already had with her,
421
00:30:17,940 --> 00:30:19,896
we're fairly confident that
we're talking about
422
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:23,097
the indecent assault of a child
under 13.
423
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:29,335
Oh. If this true, I promise you,
424
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:32,858
I knew nothing,
absolutely nothing about it.
425
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,856
Which is why I know you'll
want to help us as much as you can.
426
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,419
You don't need to use that.
427
00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:43,331
You know the voice we use to
make them think we're their friend.
428
00:30:43,420 --> 00:30:45,376
I'll tell you what I know
because I'm a decent person,
429
00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:46,939
not because I think you like me.
430
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:56,179
When we first met, you mentioned
that David did some voluntary work?
431
00:30:58,380 --> 00:30:59,938
What sort of stuff exactly?
432
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:07,700
He worked at our local hospital.
433
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:10,699
Erm... At a nearby reform school.
434
00:31:18,820 --> 00:31:21,209
He did stuff for a local
children's charity.
435
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,897
I'm going to need an exact list, please.
436
00:31:28,340 --> 00:31:30,729
The names of the institutions,
and dates.
437
00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:34,609
And the timeline I asked for,
438
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,294
detailing your movements
in the days before his death.
439
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:39,774
Jason, Jason, no!
440
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,992
He was in tears afterwards.
441
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,388
Er... Good.
442
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,073
Incredibly apologetic.
443
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,909
But I just think he's got enough
crap to deal with right now.
444
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,910
- Assaulting a police officer...
- It wasn't an assault.
445
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,831
Is an incredibly serious offence, Guv.
446
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,390
No, it was an accident.
He was highly emotional.
447
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,119
I don't care whether it was
an accident or not, it's just...
448
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,315
I'm fine.
449
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,158
Well, let's just hope he doesn't go on
to do something more serious, eh?
450
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,514
I'll see you tomorrow.
451
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,669
Night.
452
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,434
Grub's up.
453
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,675
What is it?
454
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,038
You're drying up. What is it you want?
455
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,632
Just thought it might make you smile.
456
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,511
'Cause you haven't, in a while.
457
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,394
- That's rubbish, I smile loads.
- Do you?
458
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,113
Well, I would, if you two
didn't spend half your lives
459
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,713
trying to drive me 'round
the bloody bend.
460
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,955
We don't do it deliberately.
461
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,156
I'm sorry, Gem. It's just...
462
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,676
Work's hard and I'm tired.
463
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,554
You want us to stay at Mum's
this weekend, to give you some time off?
464
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,869
No.
465
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,275
Not at all.
466
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,153
We thought
we should tell you the truth
467
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,958
before you heard it
from anyone else, and...
468
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,317
I'm going to speak to the school
tomorrow, let them know what's happened.
469
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,876
What are my friends gonna say? Hmm?
470
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,709
Maybe it might be an idea
for you to take a few days off,
471
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,674
till things blow over.
472
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,072
Do you know the way I deal with it, Ali?
473
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,549
I just see that woman
as a different person.
474
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,957
Sara Alazi was not your mum.
475
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360
Sara Mahmoud is who she is...
476
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,714
Your lovely mum, my lovely wife.
477
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,353
They're gonna rip the piss out of me.
478
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,237
Ali, there is no need to
swear, all right?
479
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,517
- It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
- Sweetheart. Please. I'm sorry.
480
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,631
- Get off me!
- Ali, stop it!
481
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,869
Get off me!
482
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,037
- What the hell have you done?
- Don't blame me!
483
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,155
You were the one that told everyone.
484
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:26,992
She was the one
who did it in the first place.
485
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,036
- "She"? Who the hell's "She"?
- Leave me alone.
486
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,678
That's our mother
you're talking about...
487
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,716
Ahmed! Shush! Calm down.
488
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,310
- So where is he now?
- Egham.
489
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,197
They moved there from Winchester.
490
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,395
But you've not been there.
491
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,075
Not yet.
492
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,116
So you are planning to go there?
493
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,869
Yes.
494
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,593
And what you planning on saying
when you go to Egham?
495
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,799
With his wife there, who's...
496
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,113
...probably never knew
anything about it, either.
497
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,311
I'll wait till he goes outside
on his own.
498
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,478
Right. What, and follow him?
499
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,711
Okay, and then what? Shoestring?
500
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,152
I'll introduce myself.
501
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,239
Mmm... Mmm...
502
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:20,559
So, talk me through that.
503
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,516
"Hi. Hi, I'm Martin.
504
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,435
"You had sex with my wife 20 years ago.
Just wondered if we could chat?"
505
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,438
It's probably borderline illegal
what you're doing anyway,
506
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,876
and I can't imagine for one second
it's gonna make you feel better.
507
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,833
I mean, he's...
508
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,870
...rich and hilarious and super smart.
509
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,875
Does that make you feel better?
510
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,599
Or he's a horrible runty little goblin
with halitosis.
511
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,355
Does that?
512
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,235
Or he's ordinary. Like you,
513
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,639
Like me. Just walking...
514
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,832
Don't make a joke about
this please, with Adam.
515
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,108
What do you mean, make a... Make a joke?
516
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,031
You do that sometimes,
and you find everything's funny...
517
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,872
I absolutely do not, that is...
518
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,989
Hey, guys.
519
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,069
- Hi.
- Hi.
520
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,949
What happened to your face?
521
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,389
Oh, it's... I, er...
It's a work thing, it's...
522
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,118
Granddad, have you been
beating Mum again?
523
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,239
Not yet, but give it a few days,
she's a cheeky little sod.
524
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,079
Right, beer, and you can make
an old man very happy,
525
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,713
and tell me about your girlfriend.
526
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,956
I have to put
my child first, Tess.
527
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,713
I know you'll understand that.
528
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,359
He'd never hurt Becca, he loves her.
529
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,911
I'm not really talking
about physical violence.
530
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,515
No, no, no, no, Paul.
531
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,073
She's 15...
532
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,429
Oh...
533
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,517
How can you even begin to suggest...
534
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,353
Well, you clearly had no idea
what sort of person your husband was.
535
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,952
Why should it be
any different with Jason?
536
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,274
Because I'm his mother.
537
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,472
And he's his father's son.
538
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,032
I'm sorry, I really am.
539
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,879
But Becca is my only concern right now.
540
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,033
I'll call you, er...
541
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,354
We'll be staying at my sister's for now.
542
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,431
I just need a little time, Tess,
543
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,392
to work out what's best for us all.
544
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,995
I do love you.
545
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Sara?
546
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:32,915
Sara!
547
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,114
Sara, are you there?
548
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,558
If you can hear me, Sara,
549
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,992
I just want you to know
we're all here for you,
550
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,239
if you want to talk, any of you.
551
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,277
Well, yes. There were some rumours.
552
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,955
About how Mr Walker was
with some of the kids on the ward.
553
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,915
Personally, I never
saw anything, of course.
554
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,669
Of course.
555
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,873
Yeah. Quinn. Yeah, that's right.
556
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,273
Er, she was released as part
of the Good Friday Agreement.
557
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,757
And we are looking for any kind
of address, er, after December, '99.
558
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,918
That'll be great.
559
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,111
It was a kid's charity
and Walker was a volunteer,
560
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,156
who I did have suspicions about.
561
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,950
But, obviously, I didn't know
anything for sure,
562
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,188
or I would have reported it.
563
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,794
Obviously.
564
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,876
- How was your mum?
- Irritating.
565
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,234
Any word from Zoe?
566
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,595
Yeah. Yeah.
She's texted her parents, she's fine.
567
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,678
But, er, she's two days now
without any care, so...
568
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,594
And what about us?
569
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,680
I don't know. That's up to you,
I suppose. If you can forgive me.
570
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,718
No, Maz, it isn't up to me.
571
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,990
'Cause ever since I've known you,
572
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,628
there's been this great,
big wall around you
573
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,718
that's always stopped me getting past
a certain point.
574
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,758
And the simple fact is,
575
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,277
that if you want us to survive,
576
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,350
you've got to take it down.
577
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,109
Mr Osborne.
578
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,035
Mr Osborne.
579
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,755
- Mr Osborne.
- I'm sorry?
580
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,199
Your daughter's school just called,
581
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,316
apparently you were meant to be there
to pick her up an hour ago.
582
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,510
Oh, my God! I'm sorry, excuse me, sorry.
583
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,679
Thank you.
584
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,320
Oh, I'm so, so sorry.
585
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,950
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
586
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,358
Come on. Come here. Let's go.
587
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,115
Yes, I was at that reform school,
588
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,156
and yes, we all knew
what David Walker was,
589
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,429
but...
590
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,191
We were kids who'd broken the law.
591
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,197
Who was ever going to
believe a word we said?
592
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,799
The truth is, a lot of them
didn't mind anyway.
593
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,035
'Cause if they got friendly with him,
594
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,239
did what he wanted,
595
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,872
they'd get invited to the gatherings.
596
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,309
The gatherings?
597
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,755
Sinead Quinn?
598
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,239
You're a hard woman to find.
599
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,639
DC Fran Lingley.
600
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:55,950
I wonder if you could spare me
five minutes of your time.
601
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,993
He just got his days mixed up.
602
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,799
All I would say is if you felt
a family session could help,
603
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,869
to talk about
604
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,234
time management and stuff...
605
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,550
Yeah, absolutely. No, great idea.
606
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,153
Do you need to get that?
607
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:09,959
Yeah, sorry, that's probably him,
on his way back home with Flora.
608
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,954
No problem, I'll let you get off,
and tell him not to worry,
609
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,149
we've all been there.
610
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,753
Great, thank you, Janet. Speak tomorrow.
611
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,949
Okay, great. Bye.
612
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,999
- Col...
- Is that Simon?
613
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,355
Who's that?
614
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,428
It's Tyler, how you doing?
615
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,515
What do you want?
616
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,199
Straight to the point, I like that.
617
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,796
Well, since you ask,
what we want is 20 grand.
618
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,237
Or we tell Social Services
about your husband
619
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,958
being interviewed in connection
with a murder.
620
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,394
Our witness,
an Ellen Harriet Price,
621
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,790
told us that a number of these
"gatherings" took place
622
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,952
between 1981 and 1983
623
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,035
and they were held at a house in
Brentford, and Walker was a regular,
624
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,513
as were a number of other men
from various, er, walks of life.
625
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,472
But, most importantly,
626
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,519
they were also regularly attended
by children from local care homes,
627
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,791
local borstals, and from the streets.
628
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,437
Now these vulnerable kids were
plied with drink, and often drugs,
629
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,109
and then, on a number of occasions,
sexually assaulted.
630
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,270
Now, I think we need to consider
the possibility that one of these people
631
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,036
was taken to this house,
assaulted by Walker,
632
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,159
and then eight or nine years later,
they've come across him again
633
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,713
and they've decided to take revenge.
634
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,713
The question is which?
635
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,436
The IRA wouldn't have
touched her with a shitty stick.
636
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,509
Right.
637
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,115
She was just a messed-up middle-class
kid wanting to piss off Mummy and Daddy.
638
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,476
In fact, her commitment to the cause
639
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,552
was pretty accurately demonstrated
when the police knocked on her door
640
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,232
about me, a few years later.
641
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:58,550
Did you ever see her with this man?
642
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,075
No.
643
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,829
But she showed me a photo of him once.
644
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,589
Really?
645
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,710
- This man? You're sure?
- Yeah, I'm sure.
646
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,789
In what context?
647
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,277
She said he worked for the Tories,
had connections with Thatcher?
648
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,792
She thought he was a potential target.
649
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:22,994
A target?
650
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,032
We weren't interested, too small time,
651
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,314
but, aye, she wanted us to kill him.
652
00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,400
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