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- Previously on

- Previously on
the "Southern Charm Reunion."

Cameran, congratulations.
- Now it's cooking.

- What was Jason's
initial reaction to the news?

- Have you been cheating on me?
[both laugh]

- Craig and I
have this joke that

all he wants is
a ride or die girl,

but I just want to know
where we're riding

and why we have to die,
you know?

[laughter]

- Where are you
in your recovery?

- I've been sober for,
like, eight months.

- You just said you were sober
for eight months,

and then you just talked about
how you were just drinking,

so you just lied
right here right now.

- No, my sobriety
is from marijuana.

- And that's all?

- The scary thing
about Shep's drinking

is that you do get to a point
where you get, like, angry.

- I hate that I don't
have self control.

I hate that after a few beers,

everything sounds like
a good idea.

- Oh, gosh.

- I don't want to rain
on anyone's parade.

- If you're not in the parade,

no one's allowed
to have a parade.

- You did not tell
the truth about me.

- Are you insinuating
that I lied under oath?

- Perhaps I am.

- I did nothing wrong that
I need to apologize for.

- You had a party.
You guys stayed up really late,

and he stayed the night
at your house.

- No, I did not.
- You're lying.

- All right, folks,
let's stand by please.

- Tonight,
the dramatic conclusion

of the
"Southern Charm Reunion."

both: Mm-hmm

[dramatic music]

- You weren't always
truthful with me.

You lied about the relationship
with Thomas on three occasions.

- I did nothing wrong
in that instance

that I need to apologize for.

- You guys stayed up
really late,

and he stayed the night
at your house.

- We didn't do anything.
- I don't' remember that.

- I think I stayed on the couch.

- No, you said you slept
in her bed.

- No, I did not.
- That did not happen.

- You're lying.

You can, like, get up here
and campaign for yourself,

but it's not true.
- Hey, you know what?

If I want to,
we can go to court,

and the whole world's
gonna know the truth.

- We are.
- We are?

I thought we had an agreement
we were gonna sign it

which would protect you,

because if we go to court...
- I don't have any--

- You will never work
ever again...

- It's the motion
I filed against you.

- Because the facts
will come out,

and you know that the judge
has all the information,

and I'm telling you,
I'm not gonna say any more,

but you keep on,
it's not gonna be pretty.

♪ ♪

- I'm gonna let you calm down.

- Well, Kathryn, you got
a lot of negative feedback

about that lunch with Jennifer.
- Yeah.

- Susana
from Port Washington said,

"Kathryn, how can you sit there

and know
what Jennifer went through

and still continue to make
everything about you?"

- The day he was born,

he had to have
emergency brain surgery.

- Mm-hmm.

- Sorry, I didn't mean to cry.
- It's okay.

♪ ♪

- Um, I just missed you
as a friend

'cause I told you everything.

♪ ♪

- We started talking
about your son,

and you began to cry,

and then all of a sudden

out of nowhere you kind of,
like, looked up and said,

"I'm sorry I wasn't
a good friend to you."

You switched subjects.

I read that as, "Okay,
you just did this thing

where you kind of make it
seem like I was making you cry

like I had hurt you
or something like that."

- I would never manipulate
my tears over my son,

and I'm not like that,
and you know I'm not.

- At the end of the day,

I just don't need
anything negative in my life.

I'd like for everyone around me
that has hurt me to kind of say,

"Hey, you know what?
Maybe I did do--"

- Well, you've hurt me too.
How about that?

- Hey, and I know that,
and I've apologized.

- But you've never
apologized for it.

- I apologized to you
at that lunch.

- You did not.
- I mean, I'm still learning

how to handle situations
that are difficult, I guess.

- Did you talk about
pushing people away

when you were in rehab?

Is that part of it?

- So will you resolve
your issues with Jennifer?

- I'd like to.
I really would.

- Could you see this friendship
getting back on track?

- I'm a loving person,

and if I choose
to love you as a friend,

there's little to nothing you
could do

to make me not love
or care about you,

and that includes her.

- I don't want to cry anymore.
Just--

[laughs]

- Jennifer, thank you
so much for your time.

- Thanks.
- Good luck with baby Asher,

and we'll see you soon.
- Thank you.

All righty.
- Moving on.

- All right, Whitney, you can
have a seat for us, please.

[indistinct chatter]

- [laughs]
- Four, three, two.

- Okay,
switching gears a little,

I want to welcome Whitney
to the group.

Hey, Whitney.
- Andy, how are you?

- Great.
- [giggles, claps]

- Thomas, this year we got
a lot of positive Tweets

and response from viewers
about your parenting skills.

Cyndi from Vermont said,
"Seeing Thomas give his daughter

"a tour of Charleston
is precious.

"I love seeing this sweet,
sensitive,

and patient side to him."

You know, your life
has certainly changed a lot.

- I've embraced it.

For 50 years,
I was very egocentric, selfish,

and you cannot be selfish
and be a parent.

- Right.
You recently listed your house.

- Mm-hmm.
- Do you have plans to move

to a more kind
of friendly neighborhood, or--

- Yeah, at first I thought
I was protecting them--

by buying this--
I call it my downtown compound

with this huge wall around it,

but I need to be
in a kid-friendly neighborhood.

I don't have a yard.
It's all hardscape.

I want to have a sandbox,
a swing set,

maybe a pool or at least be...
- Oh, God.

in a neighborhood
with a club pool.

- [sniffling]

- This is not easy
for you to hear, I guess.

- Oh, I'm okay.

- You got a lot of hate
on the Internet

for keeping the kids
in the guesthouse.

The audience response was

"I can't with Thomas acting
like father of the year

as his kids are being raised
by nannies in the guesthouse."

- Uh-huh.
- Your response is?

- Oh, I live in the back house
with the kids.

I get up.
I fix them breakfast.

- I take them to school.

- They're in the back house
because it's safe.

There are no railings.
They can't fall down the stairs.

- Yeah, the front house
is like a museum.

- Okay.
Thomas, is it hard

to find something that's
more than a fling in Charleston?

- It's tough because--
- Why is hard to find someone?

- Because all the girls
are so young.

They're in college, and then all
the good ones leave Charleston.

They go to Atlanta
or Washington,

and--or they're too old,

and if they're available,
they probably have been--

- Thomas, stop while
you're ahead please.

- They probably
have been divorced.

- What's too old?
- I do.

- What age are you looking for,
Thomas?

- I--you know--
- Yeah, what is too old?

I'm curious.
- I think between 35

and in their late 30s maybe.

- Okay, so you want
a younger woman.

- Okay, it is worth pointing
out you are in your 50s.

- Right.
- Okay.

[laughter]
[indistinct chatter]

- You said this season you
felt like you lost your mojo.

- Um--
- What happened?

- I mean, come on.

Does it look like
I lost my mojo?

- No.
- Come on.

- Oh, my God.
- Yes.

[laughter]

- What is a mojo, Tom?

- I don't know,
but I got it, okay?

- What mojo
are you referring to?

- Landon,
considering these gentlemen

close on site
with women half their age,

why did they give you
a hard time

for dating a 26-year old?

I mean, what a double
standard, right?

- Absolutely.

[laughter]
- Cameran, do you feel like--

Cameran, do you feel like
there's a double standard?

- Thank you, Thomas.
- Oh, 100%. Absolutely.

These guys,
I mean, 30 years old,

you're considered old.

- Landon, earlier this season
you had a soft launch

for your travel website.
- Mm-hmm.

- Shep called you out
for bragging in Nantucket

about hanging out
with billionaires,

not millionaires.

That didn't sit well with you.

- It still doesn't
sit well with me,

and again, it's just sort of
like male childish behavior.

These two guys
that Shep works with

had flown me up
to Nantucket.

You know, they said
they had booked me a room.

There wasn't a room booked,

so I'm supposed
to stay on the boat

with three grown men
that I don't know.

I felt uncomfortable
in the situation,

so when I went and checked in
to a hotel,

all of a sudden I'm the bitch.

- I went up to Anna Lombardi,
your business partner,

and first of all,
they said that you--

you were acting
a little out of sorts.

- I got there
before they were even there.

I was sober.
- I asked Anna--I'm sorry.

I asked Anna because I would
never--I do do my homework.

I do check, and Anna said,

"She was not behaving well,"
but you just--

- You've never been put
in a position

where you try to go to work,

and then you feel
sexually threatened.

You don't know what it's like
to have your boss be like,

"Go put on a miniskirt
and pull permits from the city."

You don't know what it's like.

- I've never heard
anything like that...

- Because you never asked me.

You just immediately
took their side,

and when you did ask me,
it was, like, a full on attack.

- Landon, your friend
and business partner,

said that you were
behaving poorly.

That's all I can go by.

I heard it twice
from two different people.

Did I handle it right?

Maybe not,
but when I hear bad things

about people that
I know to be different,

and it sounded like behavior
that I've never heard before,

then I'm like,
"Wait a second.

Is there a different side?

Is Landon getting too big
for her britches, or what?"

And I had to--and that's
what I confronted you about,

and I apologize.
- Thank you.

- Austen, Landon told you,

"You can't really know a man
until you travel with him

and see what kind
of luggage he carries."

Do you think Landon sometimes
sets herself up for criticism?

- Yeah, there were a couple
times during that lunch,

you know, where I-I--

- I still stand
by that statement, though,

so I'm not criticized by it.

Like, the kind of person
I want to be with has,

like, decent luggage
to travel the world with.

- You know, by the way,

you get a lot
of gold digger comments.

- Yeah, I think it's just an
easy thing to throw out there.

- Cameran, do you think Landon
is a gold digger?

- I think things that she says
make it come across that she is.

Like, I mean, just you saying
about the luggage comment,

I mean, my husband has luggage
that's, like,

so cheap and awful, but like,
he's a wonderful person,

you know, so like, I think
when you say things like that,

it's very easy for people
to misinterpret

that you would be a gold digger
because it--

- But I'm not asking them
for their money.

- Right,
but it seems pretentious.

- I know, but Landon,
when I'm watching, I'm like,

"Oh, no, no, no.
Don't say it that, Landon,"

like, you're like...
- I don't think she's aware.

- "Well, Thomas has
a bunch of ponies.

Maybe I should go after him."
I was like, "Don't say that."

- But I didn't say
I was going after Thomas.

I said, "If I wanted that--"
- I know, but it just--

it can be misconstrued.

I like, you,
but it's just, like--

- What you're saying is
you don't think

she's a gold digger, right?
- No.

- Well, on that note,
Brandy from Vale Tweeted,

"Calling Vale a truck stop
is lame.

At least we're not trying to be
a second-rate trip advisor."

- Okay, it's, like,
friendly banter.

- It was friendly banter,
but then the way that you came--

- I mean,
it's the most pretentious,

obnoxious conversation,
I will admit that,

so there's this big
Aspen/Vale rivalry,

and everyone who loves
Aspen jokingly says

that Vale's a truck stop.

[playful music]

- Okay, we'll be back with more
"Southern Charm" after this.

♪ ♪

Coming up.
So he went as your date?

- I mean,
he came as my friend, yeah.

- Did you guys f---
then leave?

[laughter]

- We are back with

- We are back with
the "Southern Charm Reunion."

Thomas,
all season long you claimed

that Landon was
"marriage material."

I get that every T-dad
needs a lady of the house,

but why Landon?

She is someone
that would make Kathryn upset.

- I think I like
that Landon is someone

to have fun with to date.

I wasn't necessarily
jumping to the conclusion

that she's going to be
the next Mrs. Ravenel.

- You have called her
"marriage material."

What about that woman
in the restaurant

who interrupted your dinner
with Thomas?

- I've never seen
anything like it.

- What about that woman?

- I have watched you with her,

and you two put out a chemistry

that cannot be denied.

As a Southern woman,
I can tell you one thing.

This little girl
is your soul mate.

- I mean,
I asked production about this.

They said this was not a plant.

- I asked them too.
You can tell that it's real

because if you look
in the background

and see her son's face,
and he is mortified.

- He was mortified.
- You know, Kathryn,

you revealed
that Landon and Thomas

spent a weekend together
on Valentine's Day

right before you
conceived Saint.

You believe something happened

between them
maybe even that weekend.

- You know what?
My gut did say "yes"

because I don't know Thomas
to be around a woman

for an extended period of time
or overnight and not--

- Uh-huh.
- So wait, Landon,

did you see nothing wrong

with going on a weekend trip
with Thomas

over Valentine's weekend?

- The whole Valentine's thing
is just false.

It was not Valentine's Day.

- It was not three days.

- We drove from Charleston.

It's a plantation
outside of Savannah.

- You know,
we know the family.

- One night they had a party.
- We got there for dinner,

and we left the next morning.
- These people were trying

to get my business.
- Well, Cameran,

you really came
to Kathryn's defense.

- You don't go on a trip,

a three-night trip,
you know, with your buddy.

- For Valentine's Day.

- That kind of changes
my whole opinion of Landon.

Like, that's something
you just don't do.

I think I would've used more
discretion given the situation.

I think,
you go on an overnight trip

with the man, you know, it's--

- It was Valentine's Day,
and it was three days.

- I wouldn't have let
anyone find out.

- It was not three days.
- Do I think they were...

- I don't want to fight.
- But it wasn't three days.

- You really felt that something
was either going on

or had gone on, right?
- Prior--yeah.

- And do you still believe that?
- Yeah, but I don't really care.

- You really think
they like each other?

- Not now, no.
- Well, that's what they said.

- Nothing has happened
between me and her,

so I'll swear to God.
- I don't know.

- I'll swear on Kenzie's bible.

- Landon, you had some harsh
words for Kathryn in Key West.

- I don't think
she's hit rock bottom.

I don't think this is
as bad as it's gonna get.

I don't think that
she's really that committed

to getting her children back.

- Do you stand
by those statements?

- No, I don't, but at the time

when we were
going in to Key West,

it was maybe
a little bit crazier,

and I do feel that you
are committed to that,

and I want you to be happy.
I want you to have your kids.

Everyone wants you to be happy.

- Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that.

- I want to talk about
the first dinner

you had in Key West
because we watched you

sit down next to Kathryn
and apologize to her.

- I'm sorry that that
hurt your feelings.

I really and truly am,
and I do apologize.

- I appreciate that.
Like, we're not terrible people.

- No, we're not at all.
- There's no way, like--

- As women, we're sort of
all that we have.

[dramatic music]

- Neither one of us,
I think,

were very genuine
in that moment,

but I feel like right now

this is genuine.
- Me too.

- Like, let's just kind of
"call a truce.

Let it go."

- Thomas,
before you went to Key West,

Landon told you
that she would ignore Kathryn.

Then at dinner
you heard her say,

"Sometimes I feel Thomas uses me
as a weapon against you."

- I just felt like, you know,

I was being maligned unfairly.

- Kathryn, do you think
Thomas used Landon as a weapon?

- You know...

in a way, yes.
Absolutely.

I do.
He didn't mind the fact

that their relationship hurt
my feelings,

and it was entertaining
to watch me

get wound up
over certain things.

- So Landon,
the apology was one thing,

but it was kind of shocking

to see you come
to Kathryn's defense.

- There shouldn't be
a court order.

You're their father.
She's, like, 19.

You should feel
the same way.

Watch yourself, boy.
You need to be a good dad.

And we were just talking about
how you had changed.

- Stop throwing stones.

Just, like, let it be.
You don't have to be like,

"She's more mature than you."

That's just being
a dick, Thomas.

- It hit a nerve with you.
Why?

- 'Cause I lived that.

- You lived it?

- Look, I was attacked.

I countered attack.

Perhaps I should
not have done that.

You heard the counterattack.

You didn't hear
the original attack

'cause you came in late, so...

you didn't hear
the whole story, so...

- Well, Thomas, you seemed--
- But that not withstanding,

perhaps I should've kept
my mouth shut.

- You seemed surprised
and angered

by Landon's comments at brunch,

and later you told J.D.,

"My good opinion once lost
is lost forever."

Landon, were you surprised
to see Thomas say that to J.D.?

- No, Thomas
is really sensitive.

- Well, even in that book--
- And bombastic.

- Even in the book,
they got together

even after he said that to her.

- You're talking about
"Pride and Prejudice?"

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

- Do you see yourself
as Mr. Darcy?

- No.
- [laughter]

- Come on.
- Not at all.

- Thomas?

- He's too virtuous.
[both laugh]

I'll admit my faults, okay?
- Good answer.

- He's more Rhett Butler.

- Thomas, is it hard for you
to hear criticism of yourself?

J.D. said, "Your lady
should always have your back,"

but what if your actions
aren't defensible?

- Um...
[clears throat]

Sometimes...

I'll acknowledge
I have thin skin.

- Landon,
you also saw that moment

as a defining one with Thomas.

You said,
"It was like a warning."

What did you mean?

- That, you know, I don't want
to be on the receiving end

of that wrath.

- So did Landon's defense of you
change your mind after that?

- Actually watching
that scene really,

um, made me take a step back
and think,

"Hey, maybe she's actually got
the ability

to...be genuine,"

and it was something that you
could relate to me on, I guess,

and it meant a lot
that you would

go out on a whim and do that,

especially,
you know, given the situation,

so thanks.
Appreciate it.

- And maybe my tone
wasn't the best.

- Thomas, where do you
and Landon stand now?

- We're friends.

- You're friends?
- Yeah.

- He went to a wedding
with me this weekend.

- You went to a wedding
this weekend?

- Mm-hmm.
- But not together.

She just gave me the address,
and I Ubered over.

- Yeah, I invited him.
It was in Santa Barbara.

He's in Santa Barbara.
He's my friend.

- So he went as your date?

- I mean,
he came as my friend, yeah.

- Did you guys f---
then leave?

[laughter]

- Let's take a break.
We'll be right back.

Coming up.

- If I was put
in that situation,

I wouldn't have done that
in front of you.

- Okay, so I'm not allowed
to be friends with Austen?

- If there's even a question
about it, then that's a no.

- We are back with

- We are back with
the "Southern Charm Reunion."

This season Cameran was dead-set

on getting Shep together
with her best friend,

and as Austen and Shep pursued
the new girl at the same time,

it made for an interesting

ménage a uh-uh.

Please welcome Chelsea.
Hey, Chelsea.

- Hi.
- Great to see you.

- Thanks.
Good to see you.

- You are no stranger
to reality TV.

You were a finalist
on "Survivor."

What's easier,
being on "Survivor"

or being on
"Survivor: Charleston?"

- Ooh, good question.

- I feel like
I had a harder time

watching this show,

especially with family
sitting around,

so it's a little different than,

you know,
living out in the wild, but--

- Well, you weren't waking up
in bed with someone.

- Right, it wasn't so personal.
- Right, yes.

Cameran,
you felt really strongly

about setting
Shep and Chelsea up.

- Yeah, I've been trying to set
them up for years actually.

- I don't think people realize
I've known Shep

longer than anyone here,
almost ten years now.

- Wow.
- Yeah.

- And so what has been
your impression of him

over the years?
- I mean, he's a party boy.

- Has he changed over ten years?
- No, not at all.

He's gotten worse I think.

- He's regressed.
- Yeah.

Jacquelyn from New York said,

"Cameran, your chemistry
with Shep is undeniable.

Did you set him up with Chelsea

because you actually
have feelings for him?"

- Well, yes.
- It's revealed.

- No, I mean,
Shep is like a brother to me.

I mean, I fart in front of Shep.
A relation between--

- Thanks a lot.
At least cross the room.

- A relationship between us--
trust me.

- Shep, did you feel
a connection

between you and Chelsea?

- Yeah, I dated her roommate
for a brief moment.

We didn't really know
each other,

and went to go pick up
her roommate,

and Chelsea comes down
the stairs.

I was like, "Jesus Christ.

I got the wrong roommate."
[laughter]

- She'll be thrilled to hear it.

Chelsea,
Carolyn from St. Louis said,

"You told Cameran that
when Shep isn't hammered, drunk,

and slobbering all over himself,

there's more that
I want to get to know."

What did you mean by that?

- I really enjoy sober Shep.

- How often does he appear?
- That's what I'm saying.

I feel like I don't get to see
that side of Shep enough,

and that's another conversation
that Cameran and I had.

I feel like Cameran sees
"lunch date" Shep,

and "let's go grab a coffee"
Shep,

and then the rest of us
have seen "late night Shepster."

- Well,
I didn't really get a chance

to be "daytime lunch date,
coffee" Shep.

- 'Cause Austen moved right in.

- I'm not blaming Austen,
but I--

- But you've had ten years
to be that Shep.

- You got to catch her
between those, you know?

- I move slowly.
- You got to be quick.

- Austen, it seemed like
you were scared

to tell Shep
that you and Chelsea had kissed.

- You're sort of seeing Chelsea

right now?
- Um...

[stammers]

Yes.

- If you didn't feel like you
were doing anything wrong,

why didn't you just tell him?

- Well, it took me off guard

'cause he was like--you know,
'cause he went point blank.

Like, "Are you seeing Chelsea,"

and I didn't really know
how to answer that

'cause I was like,
"We're not seeing each other."

- You just were--
You just dug her?

- Yeah, yeah.
- He dug me.

- Hold on.
Let me just back up one sec.

Why did you think

that Shep was the one
over Austen for her?

- I honestly at the time,

I did not know that Austen was
pursuing her.

- Seriously in to her?
- Pursuing her.

I had no idea.
- Got it.

- That's why I kept on.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
- That's not true.

That's not true.
- Cam, I mean, you--

- Not to the extent--
- You, like, told me.

You were like, "Look,
she told me that she likes you."

- At that point I did.
- Then you continued to tell me

to forget them.
Scrap them.

- And then you brought Shep,
like, a love doll,

and then you said--
- I know, I know.

I did.
I know.

- Well, Chelsea,
despite Cameran's persistence,

you ended up falling
for Austen over Shep.

What was it about Austen
that appealed to you?

- Austen's more like,

"Hey, you're cool.
I like you.

Let's go get lunch some time
and see how this goes,"

and you're just like--You know?

- He pursued her.

- Yeah, and it was
more endearing to me,

and it felt more genuine, and--
- Okay.

But I--when I came back
from the trip,

and the wheels were in motion,

and I said, "You know what?
Go for it," you know?

- We've seen a lot of Tweets
questioning Chelsea's motives

with Austen and Shep.

Like, Pete
from Little Rock, Arkansas says,

"Chelsea, you're playing
best friends against each other.

This is not gonna end well."

- Honestly,
I didn't really realize

how close of friends they were.

I don't know.
That wasn't my intention.

- That wasn't your intention.

Ladies, is Chelsea being held
to a double standard

when your male cast mates
get away with a lot more?

- Yes, yes.
100% I thought that.

- I think we're all held
to a double standard.

- She's not doing anything.

They're coming after her,
you know, and we can date around

just like men can date around.

When single, be single.

- You were criticized.
- Oh, yeah, ripped apart,

but I believe it's an equal
playing field for men and women.

- Chelsea, you told Austen

that Shep grabbed you
at a bar.

- He just immediately
turns around and just,

like, goes in to,
like, kiss me, and I'm like,

"Dude, what are you doing?"

- So he, like, grabbed you?
- Yeah.

He tried, like,
two or three times.

[tense music]

- Did you say,

"I'm not into this.
Don't kiss me.

I'm with Austen."
- Yeah.

- I didn't grab her
when I tried to kiss her.

I just was a dumbass drunk.
- [laughs]

- Yeah.

- What's your side of this?
- That's it.

I mean, I am
the most gentle person.

Like, I don't, you know,
push people around or grab.

- I think when you're drunk,
though, and you get this agenda,

you're like--
[thumps]

- Yeah, well, I'm impatient.

- If they're dating,
how uncool is it for you

to coax his date outside,
however you did it,

and kiss her?
- It's very uncool,

and I've said it,
but however, I will say this.

Both of them swore up and down

over and over again,
"We aren't serious,"

and meanwhile Cameran's like,
"You need to go talk to Chelsea.

I really don't think
there's anything going on."

It was definitely my fault,

but I can promise you

if I thought it was a, you know,

Liz Taylor/Richard Burton
situation,

I wouldn't have done that.

- Shep, you claimed one of the
reasons you thought it was okay

to make a move on Chelsea
was because you thought

Austen and Landon
had a real flirtation.

- Let me just show you
how adorable you are.

I mean, the dimples, good Lord.

[both laugh]

- Well, they go,
"We FaceTime three times a day."

I said, "Jesus, that's more
than I FaceTime anybody."

- Did we say that?
- Y'all did.

It's all--
- Three times a day?

- Yeah, and I said, "How many
times you FaceTime Chelsea?"

You go, "I mean,
we text every now and then."

I thought, "Well, sh--.

Where there's smoke,
there's fire."

- Austen, did you have
a thing for Landon?

- Landon and I got along well,

but it's never been anything
but, you know, platonic.

- Tammy from Indianapolis said,
"Landon, you were very flirty

"with Austen in Key West.

"Don't you think
that was inappropriate

given the fact
he was dating Chelsea?"

- No.
I don't--it's my personality.

I don't--
I mean, I'm just like that.

I'm happy-go-lucky,
and if that's flirting, fine.

- I don't think I have anything

to apologize for.
- You never do.

- Well, what you're saying is
"I don't care.

I flirt
with people's boyfriends.

That's who I am."
- That's just, like,

my personali--like,
I don't see it as flirting.

- That's unfortunate.

- Like, I'm not, like,
trying to steal Austen.

- So Kathryn,
why are you so upset?

- Because it's a situation,
again, where Landon says,

"I didn't think
I did anything wrong."

Regardless of whether
it was wrong, right, whatever.

It clearly looked questionable,

and there's a lot of
questionable things about you.

- That just speaks to, like,
maybe both of your insecurities.

- I'm not insecure.

- I'm sure as Hell not insecure.

- Well, I know,
but why would you think that

I'm, like,
trying to make moves on Austen?

- You lie.
- Even at the hunting--

at the thing where--
- I was taking pictures

of the two of you saying
how cute you looked...

- "Oh, you're so cute, and oh--"

and I was like, "This could be
your engagement photo."

- I think it's just
your personality.

If I was put in that situation,

I wouldn't have done that
in front of you.

- Okay, so I'm not allowed
to be friends with Austen?

- Chelsea?

- Chelsea,
if you think that there was

something probably going on...

[clears throat]
Might be right.

[dramatic music]

- Coming up.
- It's Shep.

- That is not
a pass on life, Whitney.

- Right or wrong?
- He's not a golden retriever.

- So he can be disrespectful
of a woman because he's Shep?

- Back with the gang

- Back with the gang
from "Southern Charm."

I want to set something straight

with the boys' night out
that went off the rails.

- Please.
- Austen, that night at the bar

when you confronted Shep,

why was it important for you
to say something to him?

- Well, 'cause I wanted to see
what his motives were.

You know, I was--
- You and Craig were like,

"Kill Shep.
Shep's a piece of sh--."

- Shep, you're just gonna
walk away like that?

- Yeah, I am.

I am walking away.
- Are you serious?

[tense music]

- Look, man--
- Dude, you saw an opening

because I usually get you,

and you were like, "Oh,
this is my time to get Shep."

That's exactly--
- See, that's what's funny.

I really don't think
you've ever nailed me.

- I don't take--
put account to it.

- Oh, my God.
I do it on a daily basis.

- Shep, you claimed you were
doing Austen a favor...

- No, I didn't.
- By trying to kiss Chelsea...

- No, I didn't.
- That it was a test

to see if she was in to him.
- Wrong.

- Did you not think
that you were wrong in that?

- It was a test.
- Shep--

- I was making sure
on your behalf.

I was thinking about you.
- Please. Please.

- You said it.
- It was funny.

- Not wro--was it funny?
- I was deep cover.

- Whitney, have you known Shep
to test girls in the past?

- No. I mean--
- No.

- If Shep were to try
to kiss my girlfriend,

she would just laugh
in his f---ing face,

and that would be the end of it.
- That's kind of what happened.

- You know?
- Can I just point out...

- You people are animals.

- This is the way men
talk about women in Charleston.

- I wouldn't say "men."
Just say "some people."

- Why isn't anyone
asking how Chelsea feels?

Your opinion is what matters,
I think, most.

- Right.
- Chelsea?

- I mean, yeah.
I felt like he has

a slight sense
of entitlement sometimes,

and--
- I'll accept that.

- Whitney, you got
a lot of criticism on Twitter

for saying
that Austen was overreacting.

- Whitney!
- I mean, again, it's Shep.

You know, I mean,
right or wrong...

- That is not a pass
on life, Whitney...

- He is who he is.
- To say he's a f---ing idiot.

- He's not a golden retriever.
- That's not a pass on life.

- So he can be disrespectful
of a woman because he's Shep.

- Very disrespectful,
but again, it's Shep.

- That's not a pass.

- No, not at all.
- That's not a pass.

- No, and I didn't
want it to be,

but it was
the wrong place to do it.

It was in front of everybody.

You had Craig chirping,
"Hey, yeah, get him."

I mean, like a bunch of people
with a pitchfork.

- Shep, we got
a lot of strong responses

about all of this.

Tweet after Tweet
of people saying,

"You can't grab a woman
and kiss her

if she doesn't want
to be kissed."

- Yeah.
- I mean, look, Chelsea,

are people overreacting
about the aggression?

- No, I don't think so,
but I think it's easy for him

to just get girls outside
to make out with them,

and because I wasn't
going for it,

I felt like it was
a little more forced.

I'm not saying he's a monster.

I'm not saying
he pulled me out by the hair,

but drunk Shep is
a little different.

- Okay, well, I want to hear
from the other women

if you have anything to say
or if you, you know--

- I kind of agree with Chelsea.

I think Shep is used to
approaching women that way,

and I think 99.9% of the time
it works for him,

and this is the 0.1%
that it didn't.

I think that's what
you're used to.

- Shep, when you apologized
to Austen in Key West,

Austen told you
he was most hurt

that you said
you didn't need his friendship.

- I've never had a brother,
and like, you know,

I thought of you as,
like, you know,

pretty damn close to one.

- I consider you
a very good friend,

so don't think that I don't.

- Did that surprise you to hear

how closely he regarded you
like a brother?

- Yeah, that cut deep,
and I didn't really mean it.

I would be very upset
if I lost Austen as a friend.

- I was broken up about it
for a while,

and then when we did talk,
you know, he was like,

"Look, I talked to Chelsea
first and foremost

because I feel that
she deserved the apology,"

and he said that he went there
and made it right,

and Chelsea told me that
he went there and made it right,

and I was like,
"Well, then the next step is

for Shep and I to make it right,

"and let's hope
that this conversation

goes as well as it did,"
and it did.

- The million-dollar question,
Austen and Chelsea,

are you still together?

- Chelsea and I
are not together.

- You're not?
- We are not together.

- We--Like, we can get into--

- We care about
each other so much.

- I care about her very deeply.

- You're like bone buddies.

- But I just--
- I wish, Whitney.

- Any opportunity
for reconciliation?

- Yeah, I'd never
say "no" to that.

You never know.
- Yeah, I think there could be

an opportunity
for reconciliation.

- Shep, what were you
saying yesterday?

"Everyone makes up
at our reunions."

One time there was a child born,

and now they're gonna
get back together.

- Yeah, I was like,
"Jesus Christ.

These reunions produced a child
one time, Andy."

- I know. I remember.
- God, do not say that, please.

- Yeah, child number three.

- Okay, well, Chelsea,
great to see you.

- Thank you for having me.
- Thank you, Whitney.

- Goodbye.
- Later off.

- Ciao.
- Whitney.

- Okay, thank you.
- See you, Whitney.

- Bye, Chelsea.
- Okay, here we go, guys.

Stand by for filming.

- Okay, changing topics,

Shep, let's talk about

when you missed your flight
on your way back to Key West.

You choked on a chicken wing?

- I was wasted.
It's called barbeque throat,

and one in every wedding guest
is afflicted with it.

No, um, I didn't want to
let go of the Key West feeling,

so I woke up, had a beer
with breakfast.

- Is that a beer?
- [laughing]

- Craig, don't you
talk about beer.

You're "Mister Beer."

Son of a bitch shows up--

shows up with a six-pack.

[sneezing]

- Ugh!

- I just sneezed on myself.
Don't get angry at me.

- Ugh, you spit on me.

- [laughs softly]

- A man in the airport bar
came up to me and said,

"Your friend came and ate
a fry off of my plate."

- You think if I was there,
you would've been arrested?

- Uh, arrested for what?

- I--I think
pretty solid chance of it.

- Public intoxication.
- I wasn't being disorderly.

I was--I was
in dire straits, honestly.

- That's how it happened, huh?

- Is that what happened, or...?

- I...I...

[soft dramatic music]

It was part of it.

- Shep, I was surprised
that they let you through

the f---ing airport security.
Like, I really was.

I mean,
I was sitting there like--

- Just keep your mouth shut.
- What do you mean?

- Did you just say,
"Keep your mouth shut,"

to Austen?

Coming up.

- I let you be a drunk asshole
that is dying inside

because you're an alcoholic...
- You're the asshole.

- And I don't get involved
in your life.

- You're the asshole.
- You're both drunk assholes.

- Shep, I was surprised

- Shep, I was surprised
that they let you through

the f---ing airport security.
Like, I really was.

I mean, I was sitting there--
- Just keep your mouth shut.

- What do you mean?

- Did you just say,
"Keep your mouth shut,"

to Austen?
- No.

- No, he's--that's
how he got through security.

I thought he said that
for a second too.

- I said that's how I got
through security.

You keep your mouth shut
and your head down.

- Okay, I couldn't tell
if you were saying that to him.

Shep, Cynthia from Miami said,

"You admitted to Cameran
that you're not happy,

and you haven't felt
anything towards anyone."

- I want to get hurt.
I want to feel something.

- Shep, it's only human.
- Trust me, it would be amazing

'cause I feel nothing
towards anyone.

I need help.
[exhales sharply]

- Cameran, you laughed it off,

but don't you think
it's a cry for help?

- Yeah, I do.
- I'm not always happy.

- That took a lot of you
to admit that.

- Yeah, I think you'd have to be
a real dimwit

to be happy all the time.

- None of us are happy
all the time though.

Like, let's keep it real.
Like, we all have--

- Yeah. I mean, I have moments
where--yeah, some dark moments.

It sucks, but I mean,

overwhelmingly
I've got a great family.

- Yeah, but are you happy
with your life overall?

- I've got great friends,
and I'm happy.

I mean,
I don't know what to say.

That's the truth.

- Craig, you said
Shep is unhappy

because all he has in life
is his money.

- I read him as searching
for purpose,

and he's opened up to me
and said that

if he was living
his perfect life right now,

he would be,
you know, with a wife

and three children on the beach.

- Well, the grass
is always greener.

I'm not gonna lie.

You see friends and family
with kids, but I mean,

I guarantee you there's moments

where they want to
pulled their hair out.

I mean, there's no perfect
purpose in the world, Craig.

- I'm aware of that,
but especially in the pattern

that you got, it--that pattern
reflects someone that,

you know, they're not happy.

- You know, life is peaks
and valleys and lefts and rights

and ups and downs,
and I'm okay with that,

and I think I'm okay.
- Yeah, but why can't I do that?

What if I said the exact
same thing that you just said

that I am living my life
the way I like,

and you continue
to impose yourself on my life

without me ever asking you
for advice?

- Craig, wait, what if you...
- You know,

I just don't see the difference.
That's what I'm saying.

- 'Cause you'd be like,
"I'm perfect.

I'm f---ing killing it,"

and I'd be like, "You know what?
I'm not killing it."

Things could change.
I could be better.

You've never said
that to anybody, Craig.

- But still, that's me.

Why do you feel
the need to poke?

- So you're delusional.
I'm introspective.

You're delusional.
You're always great.

"Everything's great.
What are you talking about?

I'm killing it."
- Because even--

- But that's not real, man.
Like--

- To who?
- To everyone around you.

- All that matters is me.

You always have a comment
about other people,

and it's his inner unhappiness.

I root for people, unlike you.
- Okay.

- So you two have been
very hostile towards each other.

- Sure.
- Is this just

the way you communicate,
and you will continue on?

I mean, is this just--
this is it.

- Yeah.
- Unfortunately.

- This is your friendship.
- I'll never admit I'm wrong,

and he'll never admit
he's wrong.

- And that's it.
- Yeah, and it just works.

- But you guys do care

a lot about each other?
- Yes, we do.

- We don't take
anything personally.

- We both have our moments.
- Craig, you actually seem like

you do take it
kind of personally.

- I get annoyed.

- I just feel like
you want everyone

to have kid gloves around you,
including your girlfriend,

and, like, I just think
that some times

that's not the best way
to go through life

is being told how great you are.

It's like Kim Jong Un
or someone like that.

- Trump?
- And Trump, yeah, just like--

- You don't think
you're a bully?

- No, I don't.
- You're gonna make fun of Trump

for being a bully?
You? You?

- No, no, Trump having thin skin
and being a little child

and needing to be told
the right thing all the time,

and "Oh, you're great,"
and you surround people with--

who would never rock the boat,
your family and all this.

- But see, I get annoyed
because it's not true.

Like, none of this is accurate
that I know about.

- Because you're killing it,
right?

You're the best ever--

- If you would like me to change
"killing it" out

for being really happy,
then fine.

I'm really happy.
- Wait, wait.

How can you be really happy
if you and Naomi were

at your lowest point ever
six weeks ago?

- Why does he want
to convince me--

- That's what I want to know.

Because you're looking
at commercial property

'cause that means
you're really happy?

- Now that I've passed the bar,

you're unwilling to accept
that I'm happy.

What would it ever take for me
to prove myself to you?

- You just said six weeks ago
you were

at your lowest point with Naomi.

- How is that happy?
- Because we're happy.

Like, we're working
on our stuff.

- You all.
- There's a difference between

saying "Life is perfect"

and me saying
"I'm killing it, or I'm happy,"

and your refusal
to accept that I'm happy

is crazy to me.
I think it's embarrassing.

- It just sounds like it's
the same thing every time.

- And it makes you look--
Who cares?

I let you be a drunk asshole
that is dying inside...

- You're the asshole.
- Because you're an alcoholic,

and I don't get involved
in your life.

- You're the asshole.
You're the one that gets--

- We're never gonna resolve
who the drunk asshole is, okay?

- I think everyone can be
a drunk asshole.

- You're the asshole.
- You're both drunk assholes.

- Everyone can be
a drunk asshole.

This sounds like Thomas and me
when we argue.

- Sometimes it's not true.
- Who cares?

- Let's move on.

Thomas,
why did you invite Kathryn

to Saint's birthday party?

- I think it started
with the letter, the tone.

There was so lashing out
or emotional outburst,

and I felt it to be genuine.

I could tell
it was her handwriting,

and so--and I felt that
she was in a good place.

- You know,
I can't help but notice

every time you look at Kathryn,
there is a bit of fire there.

I mean, there's an intensity.

- Yep.
- We're both Leos.

[both chuckle]
That's why.

- Do you feel that too?
- I don't know.

We've been through so much,

and we have two
children together.

It's hard not to look at each
other and feel a certain way.

- Do you feel that
you understand Thomas

better than anyone here?
- Yes.

I feel like I understand him
a little better

than he understands himself
in ways.

Yeah.
- Not saying much.

- I certainly don't
understand him,

so she's got that
one covered by a mile.

- By the end of the season,

you two shared
some intimate moments.

That was a really raw...
- Yeah.

- Real exchange you had

over at Thomas's house.

That then I guess led to a kiss.

[soft music]

- I mean, you guys,
whenever you're together,

you have a lot
of chemistry still.

- A kiss is innocent anyways
between he and I, I feel like.

- It was on the lips.
- Which cheek?

- The butt cheek, the left one.

- Is there any chance of the two
of you getting back together?

- I knew this was
gonna be asked.

- You know, I saw you
one night at the Republic,

and I saw you, and I thought--
- What? When?

- You were sitting down, and you
were looking in my direction,

and I thought
"Who is that beautiful woman?"

and I said,
"Oh, my God, that's Kathryn,"

and I turned around
and walked out.

- Thank you.
- But not--

after I felt that thought. -
That's love.

- Yes.
- That's love.

- [laughs]

- We'll be right back.

- We are back wrapping things up

with the kids
from "Southern Charm."

So Craig, do you think
you would've finished law school

if Shep and Naomi
didn't push you so hard?

- Yeah.
- Yes.

- I had already written my paper
by the time

they decided to act like that.

- Don't ask.

- What's your prediction
for you and Naomi?

- No one knows the future.
I hope to God it works out.

I really do.
- I hope so too.

- Yeah, so...
- Austen, are you single?

Are you dating?
What's happening?

You're banging everyone.
[laughter]

- Pretty much.

- I mean, I'm single, you know,

and I'm enjoying
the single life.

- I thought so, yeah.
- Enjoy it.

- Does not mean
I'm banging everybody.

- Very proud of you, buddy.

- Landon, is Trovare making
money,

or did you wind up
working for your dad?

- Trovare's starting
to make some money,

but I've been in California

the last couple months
in real estate school.

I used to have
my real estate license,

so now my license is back,

and I can work for my dad,
so I can do both.

- Oh, so you are gonna work
for your dad?

- Mm-hmm.
- Cameran, you know,

you've arguably been
the mom of this group.

Are you gonna have time
to babysit your man babies

while you're
with your real baby?

- I'm sure I'll find a way.

- You will?
- Yeah.

- Thomas, when you met
with your dad,

he said the only one of his kids
he was worried about was you.

- In fact, he also told me
a good day for him

is when he can read
the newspaper cover to cover

and there's no mention of me.
[laughter]

- Kathryn, you have
come such a long way.

What advice would you give to
season one Kathryn if you could?

- Aww.
I'm, like, thinking.

Um, I don't know.

I was so naive,
so I guess

don't believe
everything you're told.

- Shep,
it was a rough season for you...

- It was.
- But do you feel like it

led to some personal growth?

- Yeah, I mean,
we all have our problems,

but just look in the mirror
and try to work on them

the best you can
and be honest with your friends.

- You've also been filming
your own show, "RelationShep?"

- Yes.
That kept me busy.

That was tough.

I didn't have
my friends here to lean on.

- But I mean, it's all
about Shep's search for love.

- My time is now
sort of I think,

and it's kind of exciting.
- Oh, my God.

- It's gonna be funny too.
Really funny, Andy.

- Well, whatever happens next,
there's no denying

that this season has been one

of personal growth
for each of you.

- Yes, sir.
- Senator Ravenel,

I think you should
give us a toast.

- All right.
Here's at you.

Here's to you.

If I hadn't met you,
I wouldn't have known you.

- [laughs]
- Cheers.

- Cheers to that.
- Cheers.

- [laughs]
all: Salud.

- Mmm, tasty.

- Is that gentry?
[laughter]

- Stay tuned for a sneak peek
of "RelationShep."

- Yeah!
Time for my journey.

- So you're really doing this?
- [laughs]

- Our boy, Shep,
is out to find love.

- Can we change that?
- Yeah.

- Find someone really cool.
- To love.

He'll travel
all over the country

where his friends
will play matchmaker.

- One's a Duchant.
She's gorgeous.

both: Hi.
- Hi.

- Nice to meet you.
Whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa.

Holy--did I look stupid?
- A little.

- If he connects
with any of the women,...

- You're a beer drinker too?
- I am, yeah.

- He'll invite them
back to Charleston.

- Women are very
jealous creatures.

- This I'm not doing.

- If he doesn't know
what he did wrong,

I'm comfortable telling him.

- Honestly, I'm more mature
than you are at 37.

- I'm so scared of making
the wrong decision.

- This isn't a game to me.

- Shep, what do you
want out of life?

- Behind every great man
is a greater woman.

For I am the sun
and Juliet is the moon.

I want you to be here.
I like you a whole lot.

- This is the new Shep.
- The new Shep.

Oh, God.
- I like him.

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