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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,266 --> 00:00:17,934 County emergency. 2 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:22,605 We have a break-in at North Terracina Drive in Dublin. 3 00:00:22,689 --> 00:00:24,524 They are out there right now. 4 00:00:32,282 --> 00:00:34,492 I'm hiding in the bathroom right now. 5 00:00:35,035 --> 00:00:37,120 My husband is fighting with them. 6 00:00:37,203 --> 00:00:38,580 They have our daughter. 7 00:00:48,548 --> 00:00:52,302 Listen. Talk to me, okay? How many people? 8 00:00:52,385 --> 00:00:54,262 In the dark, we can't really see. 9 00:00:54,345 --> 00:00:56,973 There was a laser light that was pointing at us. 10 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,476 Wanting us to turn around. We were in bed. 11 00:00:59,559 --> 00:01:00,559 Okay. 12 00:01:00,935 --> 00:01:02,562 My husband's calling me. 13 00:01:02,645 --> 00:01:04,272 He... He ran away already! 14 00:01:04,355 --> 00:01:05,815 He ran away. 15 00:01:08,109 --> 00:01:11,029 {an8}I arrive on scene, and I know from the 911 call 16 00:01:11,112 --> 00:01:13,740 {an8}that there's a family that lives here inside. 17 00:01:13,823 --> 00:01:15,533 There's been a home invasion robbery. 18 00:01:17,994 --> 00:01:22,040 The husband is covered in blood, and he's holding a rag to his face. 19 00:01:23,208 --> 00:01:25,335 He told me that the daughter is safe, 20 00:01:25,919 --> 00:01:28,421 and the suspect has run out the back door. 21 00:01:31,049 --> 00:01:35,845 As we searched the back, we come across zip ties and duct tape. 22 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:38,223 And we make sure to bag that evidence. 23 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:41,810 We know that the suspect is wearing all black, 24 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:44,938 and he's possibly hopped over this fence. 25 00:01:45,605 --> 00:01:48,399 The dog starts tracking back here on this trail, 26 00:01:48,483 --> 00:01:50,735 but there's miles and miles of fields up here, 27 00:01:50,819 --> 00:01:53,571 so it's gonna make him hard to detect. 28 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:59,577 Who is this suspect? Why is he here? Why did he choose this house? 29 00:02:01,412 --> 00:02:03,456 What did he want inside this home? 30 00:02:07,293 --> 00:02:08,837 And then the daughter comes up to me. 31 00:02:10,296 --> 00:02:13,049 She says, "On the counter, there's a phone." 32 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:16,302 "I think he left it behind." 33 00:02:41,286 --> 00:02:44,789 When we locate the subscriber for the cell phone number... 34 00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:49,502 ...a female answers the phone. 35 00:02:49,586 --> 00:02:53,464 {an8}And I ask her if she knows whose phone number this is, 36 00:02:53,548 --> 00:02:56,268 and... and she says, "Oh yeah, I know. That's my son's phone number." 37 00:02:56,968 --> 00:02:58,845 And she provided his name... 38 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:02,682 Matthew Muller. 39 00:03:06,519 --> 00:03:07,770 He's a former Marine. 40 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,399 A Harvard Law graduate. 41 00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:15,695 We did locate some previous reports 42 00:03:15,778 --> 00:03:21,201 in which he was a suspect in some, uh, sexual batteries and attempted rapes. 43 00:03:24,704 --> 00:03:27,624 So this leads me to suspect that in our Dublin incident, 44 00:03:28,791 --> 00:03:33,171 his intentions were to tie up the parents in the house, 45 00:03:33,254 --> 00:03:36,466 um, and to rape their 22-year-old daughter. 46 00:03:39,177 --> 00:03:41,596 We tell his mom something very innocent. 47 00:03:42,472 --> 00:03:45,225 "We just want to get the phone back to him. Do you know where he is?" 48 00:03:45,308 --> 00:03:48,061 And she says, "He's... He's staying at my cabin in South Lake Tahoe." 49 00:03:51,689 --> 00:03:54,776 South Lake Tahoe is a vacation spot 50 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:58,488 which is about 140 miles north of our location. 51 00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:03,159 We can't be sure he's still there. 52 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,763 So we need to get to that cabin before he finds out we're coming 53 00:04:05,828 --> 00:04:07,330 and has a chance to flee. 54 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:15,672 I get a call from my sergeant, and he says 55 00:04:15,755 --> 00:04:19,092 {an8}we're going to go to South Lake Tahoe to make an arrest 56 00:04:19,175 --> 00:04:21,386 {an8}on a home invasion that occurred in Dublin. 57 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:22,929 Do you want to join us? 58 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:28,893 It was going to be my first case as a detective. 59 00:04:30,979 --> 00:04:33,481 And I said, "Hell yeah, I do. Sign me up." 60 00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:43,805 It's gotta be the next one. 61 00:04:47,078 --> 00:04:48,913 I'm thinking to myself, 62 00:04:49,706 --> 00:04:51,249 "What's gonna happen?" 63 00:04:52,250 --> 00:04:55,336 Ambushes, barricades. Does he have, you know, guns? 64 00:05:00,008 --> 00:05:03,011 We don't wanna make any noise. We wanna be sure we're silent. 65 00:05:03,094 --> 00:05:05,221 We want to be sure we take him by surprise. 66 00:05:10,018 --> 00:05:13,229 - Search warrant! Search warrant! - We got a search warrant! 67 00:05:15,481 --> 00:05:18,401 I got an open door on the left. I got an open door on the left. 68 00:05:18,484 --> 00:05:19,944 Search warrant! Search warrant! 69 00:05:20,028 --> 00:05:21,404 Holding! Holding! 70 00:05:22,196 --> 00:05:23,906 - Clear. - Clear. Clear. 71 00:05:25,575 --> 00:05:27,785 Coming out the back. Look around the back. 72 00:05:27,869 --> 00:05:30,204 They're in the back. 73 00:05:30,288 --> 00:05:31,164 And then... 74 00:05:31,247 --> 00:05:32,582 Turn the fuck around! 75 00:05:33,875 --> 00:05:35,155 We'll come back inside! 76 00:05:35,209 --> 00:05:37,128 I see Muller being handcuffed. 77 00:05:41,382 --> 00:05:47,096 He was very quiet, composed. No emotions. 78 00:05:49,974 --> 00:05:53,811 I tell him, "I'm going to take a photo of you." 79 00:06:01,402 --> 00:06:03,488 He looks relatively normal. 80 00:06:05,865 --> 00:06:10,078 Like your average all-American white male adult. 81 00:06:17,251 --> 00:06:18,836 I go back in the house. 82 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:23,800 It was just a mess. 83 00:06:26,302 --> 00:06:27,929 It smells kind of... 84 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:31,057 what would be a good word? Stale. 85 00:06:32,725 --> 00:06:34,811 When we're searching everything, 86 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:38,147 we're finding things that tie him to our crime. 87 00:06:39,774 --> 00:06:43,277 We find zip ties and duct tape. 88 00:06:43,361 --> 00:06:46,030 Just like he left at the Dublin house. 89 00:06:47,156 --> 00:06:50,993 Toy guns that are painted. 90 00:06:52,495 --> 00:06:54,872 One of them has a laser attached to it. 91 00:06:56,290 --> 00:07:01,295 In Dublin, he awoke the victims with a laser shining on their face. 92 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,383 So this is all starting to fall together. 93 00:07:08,761 --> 00:07:11,472 But as I'm standing in this house, 94 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:15,017 I noticed that the windows were covered. 95 00:07:18,396 --> 00:07:21,649 I could feel that there was much more to it. 96 00:07:24,068 --> 00:07:26,195 The bedroom was just very dirty. 97 00:07:27,905 --> 00:07:31,367 And I get this sense that something else has happened here. 98 00:07:33,494 --> 00:07:38,332 In the bathroom, we find a NyQuil bottle, a syringe. 99 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:40,751 Something inside you says, 100 00:07:40,835 --> 00:07:43,671 "Oh, this is... this is weird, and this isn't right." 101 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:47,758 And then we find a stolen vehicle. 102 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:51,053 It's a white Mustang. 103 00:07:52,388 --> 00:07:54,849 With Matthew Muller's ID inside of it. 104 00:07:55,683 --> 00:07:59,270 The GPS is up and it has all of these different addresses. 105 00:08:03,774 --> 00:08:06,027 Why was he driving to these different places? 106 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:07,361 And who was he with? 107 00:08:08,779 --> 00:08:09,864 In the trunk, 108 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:13,451 I see what looks like a torso, 109 00:08:14,702 --> 00:08:15,828 dressed in black. 110 00:08:18,956 --> 00:08:20,291 It's a blow-up doll. 111 00:08:24,003 --> 00:08:25,338 Made to look like... 112 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:29,634 he wants someone to mistake it for a human being. 113 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:33,971 I have no idea what he's using this for, 114 00:08:34,972 --> 00:08:36,307 but it's... it's creepy. 115 00:08:38,643 --> 00:08:43,523 And then we find the nylon belt. 116 00:08:44,732 --> 00:08:49,570 And in the pocket is a pair of goggles, 117 00:08:49,654 --> 00:08:52,198 and the eyes are duct-taped. 118 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:59,622 As I'm pulling them out, I see a single strand of blond hair. 119 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:03,209 Oh my God. 120 00:09:06,712 --> 00:09:08,464 Who does this hair belong to? 121 00:09:08,965 --> 00:09:12,760 I don't think it was someone who gave it up willingly. 122 00:09:15,805 --> 00:09:17,723 Are they alive? Are they dead? 123 00:09:19,225 --> 00:09:21,602 We have to find out who this hair belonged to. 124 00:09:32,989 --> 00:09:34,657 By June 2015... 125 00:09:37,493 --> 00:09:39,120 I just feel lost. 126 00:09:41,622 --> 00:09:44,083 Afraid because the kidnappers are still out there. 127 00:09:45,126 --> 00:09:48,004 {an8}We're still worried about whether or not 128 00:09:48,087 --> 00:09:52,633 {an8}we're gonna be prosecuted and charged with committing a hoax. 129 00:09:54,510 --> 00:09:57,847 Denise and I stay at our parents' house, or with friends... 130 00:09:58,556 --> 00:10:01,684 {an8}We feel like fugitives, uh, like we're on the run. 131 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:07,982 I open up my Facebook, and I'm just inundated with abuse. 132 00:10:10,443 --> 00:10:12,320 And reading through it... 133 00:10:14,947 --> 00:10:16,699 ...is so frustrating. 134 00:10:17,742 --> 00:10:18,742 I mean... 135 00:10:20,411 --> 00:10:21,787 it was so insulting. 136 00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:27,418 Having people believe that I'm this type of person 137 00:10:27,501 --> 00:10:30,338 who would put my family through this. 138 00:10:30,963 --> 00:10:34,967 That I would make this huge, elaborate lie for... 139 00:10:35,593 --> 00:10:37,511 for what I don't... I don't know. 140 00:10:40,306 --> 00:10:42,600 It was crushing. 141 00:10:49,607 --> 00:10:50,608 Can't work. 142 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:54,737 Too traumatized to work. I don't know if they'll let us go back 143 00:10:54,820 --> 00:10:57,448 if we wanted to, because we're the hoaxsters. 144 00:11:05,206 --> 00:11:08,292 Our attorneys are both working, like, tirelessly 145 00:11:08,376 --> 00:11:13,714 to try to get the police and the FBI to actually look for the kidnappers. 146 00:11:13,798 --> 00:11:15,299 But months have gone by, 147 00:11:16,592 --> 00:11:20,429 and the only thing that they're doing is continuing to look at us. 148 00:11:22,723 --> 00:11:29,105 And then, almost by accident, we find out that the lead case agent, David Sesma... 149 00:11:29,188 --> 00:11:31,982 {an8}- This is David Sesma. - Hi. I'm with the FBI. 150 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:35,903 ...used to date my ex, Andrea, 151 00:11:35,986 --> 00:11:38,906 who was the intended target of this whole thing. 152 00:11:45,454 --> 00:11:49,959 There's absolutely no way Sesma should be on this case. 153 00:11:50,042 --> 00:11:53,754 {an8}It's a clear, unequivocal, black-and-white conflict of interest. 154 00:11:55,005 --> 00:11:58,259 So I write to the office of Inspector General, 155 00:11:58,342 --> 00:12:00,136 explain the situation. 156 00:12:00,219 --> 00:12:01,429 Their response, 157 00:12:01,512 --> 00:12:05,433 "The appropriate authorities found his conduct 'unproblematic.'" 158 00:12:06,684 --> 00:12:09,353 Is this why the investigation's not being followed through? 159 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:11,856 Is this why evidence is being ignored? 160 00:12:11,939 --> 00:12:15,735 Like, it's not paranoia anymore. It just... Now it feels personal. 161 00:12:16,277 --> 00:12:19,155 We're just two people going against the FBI. 162 00:12:21,699 --> 00:12:23,951 In the meantime, like, what do we do? 163 00:12:24,785 --> 00:12:27,997 Do we just kind of live behind closed doors 164 00:12:28,622 --> 00:12:30,166 for the rest of our lives? 165 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:33,127 We're not safe anywhere. 166 00:12:46,807 --> 00:12:50,811 When we get back to the station, I'm thinking, 167 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:54,982 "How and where do I begin searching for a victim with blond hair?" 168 00:12:57,193 --> 00:13:00,571 Matthew Muller came up in several different incidents 169 00:13:00,654 --> 00:13:02,448 that occurred in Northern California. 170 00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:08,788 The first one I look at was in 2009. 171 00:13:09,497 --> 00:13:14,043 It happened 40 miles from the city of Dublin, in Palo Alto. 172 00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:18,088 So I call Palo Alto PD, 173 00:13:18,172 --> 00:13:21,675 explain to the detective we have Matthew Muller in custody. 174 00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:23,093 He cuts me off and says, 175 00:13:23,177 --> 00:13:26,597 "I have a photo on my desk, and I've been staring at him since 2009." 176 00:13:27,223 --> 00:13:30,100 "He was a person of interest in our sexual assault case, 177 00:13:30,184 --> 00:13:32,311 but I could never prove that it was him." 178 00:13:32,394 --> 00:13:36,524 {an8}Palo Alto PD have a home invasion case so terrifying, 179 00:13:36,607 --> 00:13:38,818 {an8}locals are afraid to go to bed at night. 180 00:13:38,901 --> 00:13:43,155 He actually physically restrained her, uh, blindfolded her. 181 00:13:43,739 --> 00:13:45,574 At approximately 3:30 in the morning, 182 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:51,247 a 32-year-old woman was woken up by a man who was dressed in all-black clothing. 183 00:13:52,206 --> 00:13:56,126 He ties her up, forces her to drink NyQuil, 184 00:13:56,752 --> 00:14:01,006 puts surgical tape over her eyes, and tells her that he's going to rape her. 185 00:14:02,925 --> 00:14:06,887 She's pleading with the suspect telling him she'd been raped before. 186 00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:10,307 He tells her that he doesn't want to victimize her again 187 00:14:10,391 --> 00:14:11,767 and decides to leave her alone. 188 00:14:15,354 --> 00:14:21,527 Three weeks prior, Matthew Muller was stopped by a Palo Alto police officer 189 00:14:21,610 --> 00:14:24,196 because he had seen him jumping out of the bushes 190 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,615 nearby an apartment complex. 191 00:14:28,993 --> 00:14:31,996 And so, Matthew Muller became a person of interest. 192 00:14:33,497 --> 00:14:38,711 But there was no DNA or evidence tying Matthew Muller to this case, 193 00:14:38,794 --> 00:14:40,963 and the case is still open now. 194 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:45,968 There's a lot of similarities between this case 195 00:14:46,051 --> 00:14:48,554 and the items I found in South Lake Tahoe. 196 00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:53,934 But there's no mention of goggles in the report. 197 00:14:55,352 --> 00:14:58,355 So I know that there's another victim out there, 198 00:14:58,439 --> 00:15:00,524 and I had to find out who she was. 199 00:15:09,783 --> 00:15:12,703 Prior to becoming a law enforcement officer, 200 00:15:12,786 --> 00:15:15,998 one of my girlfriends was a victim of sexual assault. 201 00:15:19,543 --> 00:15:23,213 She is the reason why I became a cop. 202 00:15:24,965 --> 00:15:28,427 I wanted to be the one that was the voice for these victims 203 00:15:28,510 --> 00:15:30,304 and prosecute the suspects 204 00:15:30,387 --> 00:15:33,015 and send them to prison for a very long time. 205 00:15:39,521 --> 00:15:41,815 I am working after hours, 206 00:15:42,566 --> 00:15:46,779 and I'm getting more and more emotionally drawn to this case. 207 00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:52,493 And then I read about another case in 2009. 208 00:15:53,911 --> 00:15:55,829 Just eight miles from Palo Alto. 209 00:15:57,414 --> 00:15:58,958 In a town called Mountain View. 210 00:16:08,884 --> 00:16:13,514 In 2009, I was in my thirties. 211 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:20,062 I was in a relationship, but, uh, living alone. 212 00:16:24,024 --> 00:16:28,570 That night, I woke up around 4:30 or five o'clock thinking, 213 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:31,323 "Oh good. I have a little bit extra time to sleep in." 214 00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:33,701 Um, and then... 215 00:16:34,868 --> 00:16:37,913 I felt this very heavy pressure on... on top of me. 216 00:16:39,581 --> 00:16:41,959 I was screaming, and I just keep hearing, 217 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:44,336 "Tracey, Tracey, Tracey! It's okay, Tracey. Tracey!" 218 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:49,591 And he told me if I didn't stop screaming, he was going to gag me. 219 00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:53,554 He restrained me with zip ties, 220 00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:57,933 made me drink something that would make me sleepy. 221 00:16:59,393 --> 00:17:04,023 And blindfolded me with a pair of swim goggles that had been blacked out. 222 00:17:06,608 --> 00:17:07,609 He tells me, 223 00:17:08,569 --> 00:17:10,446 "Well, now I have some bad news." 224 00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:12,239 "Um..." 225 00:17:12,322 --> 00:17:14,867 "Unfortunately, now I'm gonna have to rape you." 226 00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:18,245 And... 227 00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,752 And then the... then just the panic took over, 228 00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:29,006 and I started just begging, 229 00:17:29,089 --> 00:17:30,340 "You don't need to do this." 230 00:17:30,424 --> 00:17:32,217 "Please don't do this. Please don't do this." 231 00:17:32,301 --> 00:17:35,637 You know, "I gave you... I gave you everything you wanted. You did..." 232 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,640 You just start bargaining, right? You just start saying, 233 00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:42,120 "Please, please, please, please, please don't do this." 234 00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:43,144 And... 235 00:17:44,521 --> 00:17:49,276 I remember him being very silent for a while. 236 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:53,489 And then I hear him sigh and he says, 237 00:17:54,323 --> 00:17:56,283 "I can't do this." 238 00:17:59,578 --> 00:18:03,916 "I'm sorry. I know this is really gonna mess you up for a long time." 239 00:18:05,959 --> 00:18:08,045 "You might want to think about getting a dog." 240 00:18:08,128 --> 00:18:10,214 "A dog would be good protection for you." 241 00:18:10,297 --> 00:18:14,009 "Um, it might prevent something like this from happening again." 242 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:18,215 He, all of a sudden, has this change of heart, 243 00:18:18,263 --> 00:18:20,265 to try to look like the good guy. 244 00:18:20,349 --> 00:18:23,352 He actually gives her, like, crime prevention advice 245 00:18:23,435 --> 00:18:26,396 on how not to be a victim in the future. 246 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:31,777 But Tracey has long brown hair. 247 00:18:33,403 --> 00:18:36,865 The goggles that I collected could not have been used on this woman. 248 00:18:41,537 --> 00:18:44,206 When the police arrived, the officer asked me, 249 00:18:44,289 --> 00:18:46,458 "Are you sure you just didn't have a bad dream?" 250 00:18:48,043 --> 00:18:50,546 And I... I just remember saying, 251 00:18:50,629 --> 00:18:53,090 "Well, no, I... it wasn't a dream." 252 00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:55,509 "How would I get these marks if it was a dream?" 253 00:18:55,592 --> 00:18:58,720 "No. This is real. Like, look, this really happened to me." 254 00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:03,016 They talked to my boyfriend. 255 00:19:04,184 --> 00:19:06,728 Asked him was I an attention seeker? 256 00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:09,815 Was I prone to making up stories? 257 00:19:09,898 --> 00:19:12,943 Did he believe that this really could have happened? 258 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:17,447 I was flabbergasted, honestly. 259 00:19:17,531 --> 00:19:19,032 I knew he existed. 260 00:19:19,116 --> 00:19:22,786 I knew that this would most likely happen again, 261 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:25,289 and I was very frustrated 262 00:19:25,372 --> 00:19:27,916 that the police weren't taking it seriously. 263 00:19:35,215 --> 00:19:38,886 As time goes on, I'm just trying to hold on to hope. 264 00:19:41,221 --> 00:19:43,599 All I want is for someone to believe me. 265 00:19:47,603 --> 00:19:48,645 The first time... 266 00:19:51,148 --> 00:19:54,318 when I was assaulted, I was 12. 267 00:19:58,822 --> 00:20:02,534 I was just a child and it was unexpected 268 00:20:02,618 --> 00:20:06,205 and I didn't know what to do and... 269 00:20:12,628 --> 00:20:15,797 I blamed myself. I was ashamed. 270 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:17,549 And a couple of years later, 271 00:20:18,592 --> 00:20:23,639 I found out that he molested another girl. 272 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:29,561 And I felt incredible guilt that I didn't say something sooner. 273 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:34,316 And I'm 19, 274 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,402 and it happens again. 275 00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:40,906 I'm at a friend's house, a close friend. 276 00:20:40,989 --> 00:20:43,075 We're with a small group of people. 277 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:45,410 We've been drinking. 278 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:49,498 I fall asleep on the couch, and I wake up. My pants are off. 279 00:20:50,415 --> 00:20:53,001 And some guy's fingers are inside of me. 280 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,045 I thought, "Okay, this time I'm gonna report it." 281 00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:56,505 "I'm going to say something." 282 00:20:56,588 --> 00:20:59,132 I get to the police station, and in the parking lot, 283 00:20:59,216 --> 00:21:02,844 I met with an officer who basically talks me out of it. 284 00:21:02,928 --> 00:21:05,088 He says, "You know, really it's a 'he said, she said.'" 285 00:21:05,138 --> 00:21:07,140 "There's not gonna be any proof." 286 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:09,393 And then, here I am... 287 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,106 literally taken in the middle of the night. 288 00:21:14,189 --> 00:21:18,443 My body stolen and violated. 289 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:21,612 And it's still... 290 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:25,033 They don't believe me. 291 00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:28,495 I don't know what needs to happen to me... 292 00:21:30,872 --> 00:21:35,377 what needs to happen to any woman for them to be believed. 293 00:21:38,255 --> 00:21:40,257 I mean, it just seems hopeless. 294 00:21:52,394 --> 00:21:55,939 I can't give up searching for a victim with blond hair. 295 00:21:57,733 --> 00:21:59,609 And that's all I really cared about. 296 00:22:03,488 --> 00:22:06,908 And so, I decided to go back to the white Mustang. 297 00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:12,497 The vehicle was stolen seven months previously. 298 00:22:12,581 --> 00:22:14,875 In the city of Vallejo. 299 00:22:16,293 --> 00:22:18,795 I contact the registered owner, 300 00:22:18,879 --> 00:22:20,839 tell him, you know, that we have the Mustang, 301 00:22:20,922 --> 00:22:23,550 it was involved in a home invasion, 302 00:22:23,633 --> 00:22:26,678 and he stops me and says, 303 00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:30,849 "Hmm. Have you heard of the Mare Island creeper?" 304 00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:32,392 And I thought to myself, 305 00:22:32,476 --> 00:22:35,270 "Where is Mare Island? And who's the creeper?" 306 00:22:38,690 --> 00:22:42,402 Mare Island is connected by a tiny bridge to Vallejo. 307 00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:46,198 It's a quiet neighborhood. 308 00:22:47,491 --> 00:22:49,368 But in 2014, 309 00:22:50,118 --> 00:22:56,083 there was a bunch of students that were being harassed by a male subject 310 00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:58,460 who would basically peep into their windows, 311 00:22:58,543 --> 00:23:01,505 take photos, and then would scurry away. 312 00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:08,387 Night after night after night, this man was terrorizing the neighborhood, 313 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:10,555 and the cops aren't doing anything. 314 00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:12,849 So they decided to take matters into their own hands. 315 00:23:15,811 --> 00:23:19,064 A couple of students follow the man home 316 00:23:19,731 --> 00:23:22,818 and realize that he, too, lives on Mare Island. 317 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:27,447 And they do a further search and find out that he's ex-military... 318 00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:30,325 and a lawyer. 319 00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:34,037 And in my brain, I'm thinking, 320 00:23:35,163 --> 00:23:37,124 "The Mare Island creeper is Matthew Muller." 321 00:23:38,834 --> 00:23:39,960 Holy shit. 322 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:47,217 They reported all of these incidents that occurred to the police, 323 00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:50,387 but the investigation stopped. 324 00:23:51,513 --> 00:23:54,307 How could the police have not followed up on this guy? 325 00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:55,600 They had leads. 326 00:23:59,187 --> 00:24:03,817 And then he tells me that in March of 2015, 327 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:06,403 the Mare Island creeper cases stop. 328 00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:13,493 He said, "You know, it was around the same time of the Gone Girl case." 329 00:24:13,577 --> 00:24:15,078 "You know, the Gone Girl case?" 330 00:24:15,162 --> 00:24:19,541 And I had no idea what he was talking about. 331 00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:26,965 I google "Vallejo kidnapping Gone Girl case." 332 00:24:29,384 --> 00:24:31,470 {an8}All of these articles pop up. 333 00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:36,725 {an8}Kidnapping for ransom mystery involving a 30-year-old woman 334 00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:40,896 {an8}taken forcibly in the night from a home on Mare Island. 335 00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:44,065 She was taken from an address on Kirkland Avenue 336 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:47,652 where the Mare Island creeper was committing his Peeping Tom crimes. 337 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:50,405 The suspect restrained them with zip ties 338 00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:53,992 and then covered their eyes with blacked-out swim goggles. 339 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:56,536 My heart is racing. My stomach is turning. 340 00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:58,660 {an8}That woman who claims she was kidnapped 341 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:02,501 {an8}has turned up safe and unharmed this morning in Huntington Beach. 342 00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:06,379 The GPS in the Mustang had Huntington Beach on it. 343 00:25:06,463 --> 00:25:08,048 And then... 344 00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:13,011 I see this picture of a white woman 345 00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:16,223 with long blond hair. 346 00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:20,227 Oh my God. The blond hair that I have on those goggles 347 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:23,438 is hair that matches the hair that Denise has. 348 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:27,275 {an8}Police are now saying it was all a wild goose chase. 349 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,903 It was all a hoax, an elaborate hoax. 350 00:25:29,986 --> 00:25:33,532 They're calling this woman a liar on national news, 351 00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:36,785 but I just wanted to reach through the computer 352 00:25:36,868 --> 00:25:38,620 and just give her a hug and say, 353 00:25:39,829 --> 00:25:40,830 "I got you." 354 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:50,799 So I call Vallejo PD. 355 00:25:52,342 --> 00:25:55,887 I'm so excited and so amped up, like, "Let's get this solved right now!" 356 00:25:58,598 --> 00:25:59,808 And I get no answer. 357 00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:04,271 But I am like the annoying ex-girlfriend that never goes away. 358 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,024 So I continue to call them. 359 00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:10,819 And call them. 360 00:26:17,701 --> 00:26:21,830 Finally, I get transferred to a detective and he says, 361 00:26:21,913 --> 00:26:25,292 "The case was turned over to the FBI, so we're no longer investigating it." 362 00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:26,835 "You might want to call them." 363 00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:29,462 "Okay. Um, give me the phone number." 364 00:26:29,546 --> 00:26:33,925 So he gives me the phone number to the FBI agent, David Sesma. 365 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:37,012 And I hang up the phone, like, "Okay, that was useless." 366 00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:40,098 And I call David Sesma. 367 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:41,600 And I tell him, 368 00:26:41,683 --> 00:26:46,438 "We have a suspect in custody, um, very similar to the suspect 369 00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:49,608 that was involved in the kidnapping of Denise Huskins." 370 00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:51,651 "You guys deemed it a hoax." 371 00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:54,571 He snapped back and said, "We never called it a hoax." 372 00:26:54,654 --> 00:26:58,617 I said, "Well, anyways, I have this person in custody 373 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:04,497 that you may be interested in speaking to because the cases are so similar." 374 00:27:05,081 --> 00:27:05,915 And he said, 375 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:10,045 "Okay, well, send me all the information that you have, and we'll look at it." 376 00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:12,505 And I thought, "That's it?" 377 00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:14,257 I was so disappointed. 378 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,887 We set up a meeting with the FBI 379 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:22,140 to go over the evidence that we found in South Lake Tahoe. 380 00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:27,062 I show them the zip ties, 381 00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:29,271 duct tape... 382 00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:32,525 and they were curious. 383 00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:37,322 But when they see the water gun that we had collected, 384 00:27:37,405 --> 00:27:40,158 they told us that this was the exact same gun 385 00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:42,869 that the kidnappers had photographed and emailed 386 00:27:42,952 --> 00:27:45,163 to, uh, the San Francisco Chronicle. 387 00:27:48,375 --> 00:27:52,337 And then when I show them the photo of the goggles with the blond hair, 388 00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:54,547 they look visibly shocked. 389 00:27:54,631 --> 00:27:57,801 They realize that maybe they were wrong 390 00:27:57,884 --> 00:28:01,262 and they need to further investigate the Vallejo incident. 391 00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:12,982 I get a call from the US attorney. 392 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,779 And he tells me, "Doug, I think we may have a break in the case." 393 00:28:19,322 --> 00:28:23,993 He says, "We have a man. We're holding him in custody right now." 394 00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:29,082 "There is evidence that links him to the crime against Denise and Aaron." 395 00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:33,586 Can you imagine my shock? 396 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:37,507 {an8}Breaking news at noon in the mysterious Vallejo kidnapping saga. 397 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:40,844 {an8}Major break in a strange kidnapping case in California. 398 00:28:40,927 --> 00:28:44,389 {an8}A kidnapping case that was once compared to the movie Gone Girl. 399 00:28:44,472 --> 00:28:47,517 {an8}There's been an arrest in the Denise Huskins kidnapping. 400 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,436 {an8}This was real all along. 401 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,604 Denise and Aaron were telling the truth. 402 00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:53,314 I'm floored. 403 00:28:53,398 --> 00:28:57,068 Authorities initially said Huskins was lying about her kidnapping. 404 00:28:57,152 --> 00:28:59,904 {an8}Now we've learned from the arrest warrant that Denise reported 405 00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:02,532 {an8}she was sexually assaulted by her captor. 406 00:29:03,908 --> 00:29:05,160 Oh God. 407 00:29:07,036 --> 00:29:09,205 I mean, the news is just overwhelming. 408 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:13,877 There's millions of different questions running on... in our minds. 409 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,881 A suspect has now been identified by the FBI. 410 00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:21,634 Matthew Muller graduated from Harvard Law in 2006 411 00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:24,804 and was a research assistant there for the next three years. 412 00:29:24,888 --> 00:29:29,184 He told detectives he's bipolar and suffers from Gulf War Illness. 413 00:29:29,267 --> 00:29:32,771 Muller had been working as an immigration lawyer in San Francisco, 414 00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:35,565 but was disbarred earlier this year. 415 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,110 I'm looking at this man. 416 00:29:41,404 --> 00:29:43,615 I'm, like, sick to my stomach. 417 00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:48,369 I'm just trying to process... 418 00:29:50,497 --> 00:29:51,664 the situation. 419 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,461 Because the man who held me captive and raped me, 420 00:29:56,544 --> 00:29:58,963 I never knew what he looked like. 421 00:30:00,256 --> 00:30:03,426 {an8}But then there's video footage. 422 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:06,012 {an8}He's seen here in this story on Univision. 423 00:30:06,095 --> 00:30:08,097 {an8}They had said, up until today, is that, 424 00:30:08,181 --> 00:30:10,308 {an8}"No, we will not even let you have your day in court." 425 00:30:11,976 --> 00:30:15,647 The cadence of how he spoke, the rhythm. 426 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,191 I know it's him. 427 00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:27,992 Hearing him, seeing him validated that this all was real. 428 00:30:29,702 --> 00:30:33,456 And I felt that frustration and that anger of like, 429 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:37,126 "See? It wasn't that fucking crazy 'cause it happened." 430 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:38,503 "Why didn't you listen to us?" 431 00:30:38,586 --> 00:30:41,256 "Why didn't you take what we said seriously?" 432 00:30:45,426 --> 00:30:47,554 After the arrest of Matthew Muller, 433 00:30:48,221 --> 00:30:50,640 the only thing in this world that I want to see 434 00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:52,642 is the affidavit. 435 00:30:54,602 --> 00:30:58,565 An affidavit is a document that law enforcement puts together 436 00:30:58,648 --> 00:31:02,986 that details every step of an investigation. 437 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,990 When I read it, it becomes patently obvious 438 00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:09,742 that law enforcement did very little work 439 00:31:09,826 --> 00:31:12,787 into the actual crime of kidnapping. 440 00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:16,207 What they did focus their attention on was prosecuting Denise and Aaron. 441 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:21,504 They were blind to the fact that a real crime had been committed here. 442 00:31:23,298 --> 00:31:25,466 So I read about the polygraph and it says, 443 00:31:26,676 --> 00:31:28,344 "The exam was completed... 444 00:31:29,512 --> 00:31:31,598 with unknown results." 445 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:35,476 Agent French told me I failed it miserably, 446 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,312 not even a question. 447 00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:42,150 Aaron, there's no question in my mind that you failed this test. 448 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,985 So he's just lying to me. 449 00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:48,114 Lying through his teeth to just break me down. 450 00:31:50,116 --> 00:31:53,202 Then I see that there's a section in this affidavit 451 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:54,662 that goes over the SART exam. 452 00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:58,875 A SART exam is a sexual assault examination 453 00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:01,669 that's given at the hospital to victims of sexual assaults. 454 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:04,839 According to this affidavit, 455 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:09,010 there was no physical evidence of non-consensual sex. 456 00:32:11,596 --> 00:32:14,140 Denise spent hours and hours and hours 457 00:32:14,223 --> 00:32:18,144 going over each detail about the sexual assault. 458 00:32:18,227 --> 00:32:19,646 And I played along... 459 00:32:20,271 --> 00:32:22,398 'cause I didn't know what else to do. 460 00:32:22,482 --> 00:32:27,403 Not every rape is going to be physically damaging. 461 00:32:27,487 --> 00:32:31,074 I mean, this is the fucking FBI. Like, they should know better. 462 00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:36,871 Then I read that while Aaron was in the Vallejo Police Department, 463 00:32:37,538 --> 00:32:42,794 he told the police that the kidnappers were going to contact him on his phone. 464 00:32:43,753 --> 00:32:46,214 But what does law enforcement do? 465 00:32:46,297 --> 00:32:48,007 They put it on airplane mode. 466 00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:51,260 Law enforcement didn't turn Aaron's phone on 467 00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:53,680 until that next evening, 468 00:32:53,763 --> 00:32:56,307 when they discovered that two calls had come in. 469 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:58,726 These were traceable calls. 470 00:32:59,602 --> 00:33:01,437 And they were traceable 471 00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:04,232 within 200 meters... 472 00:33:07,026 --> 00:33:08,861 ...of where Denise was being held. 473 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:12,490 Oh my God. 474 00:33:16,035 --> 00:33:19,956 If they had actually monitored his phone... 475 00:33:22,083 --> 00:33:24,335 they could have saved me from the second rape. 476 00:33:28,923 --> 00:33:29,757 Yeah. 477 00:33:34,429 --> 00:33:37,807 And then, as we were still going through all of this, 478 00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:40,518 we get a call from the FBI. 479 00:33:41,978 --> 00:33:45,523 They tell us that they are sure that Muller acted alone 480 00:33:45,606 --> 00:33:47,817 and they're not looking for anyone else. 481 00:33:48,609 --> 00:33:51,320 These are the same investigators that said I killed Denise. 482 00:33:51,404 --> 00:33:54,157 The same investigators that said it was a hoax. 483 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,951 And now the same investigators are saying he acted alone. 484 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,287 We know there's other people out there. 485 00:33:59,912 --> 00:34:02,165 And the police are gonna let them skate through 486 00:34:02,248 --> 00:34:04,250 because it's the easiest thing for them. 487 00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:06,502 Keep moving, guys! Keep it clear! 488 00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:08,921 Clear, please! 489 00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:11,716 Clear, please! 490 00:34:14,343 --> 00:34:17,430 The police refused to follow the evidence, 491 00:34:18,222 --> 00:34:20,600 and the media all laughed along the way. 492 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,314 I want to stand up there... 493 00:34:29,192 --> 00:34:32,862 and look every damn one of them in the face 494 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:35,740 while they learn the truth. 495 00:34:39,243 --> 00:34:40,661 I'm sick of hiding. 496 00:34:42,538 --> 00:34:44,624 I don't have anything to hide from. 497 00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:49,253 Nearly four months ago, we told you that Denise Huskins was right. 498 00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:53,883 That she was not only innocent of perpetrating a hoax, 499 00:34:53,966 --> 00:34:57,762 but that she was a victim of a very serious and violent crime. 500 00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:03,101 Seeing Denise and Aaron out in public, they're not saying anything, 501 00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,394 but their emotions spoke volumes. 502 00:35:06,562 --> 00:35:11,317 I regret my part in this because they went through hell. 503 00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:14,987 We're thinking that we're covering this story, 504 00:35:15,071 --> 00:35:18,324 the salacious story of a lifetime, and it all went horribly wrong. 505 00:35:19,408 --> 00:35:23,996 Ms. Huskins and Mr. Quinn held their heads up high 506 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,251 in the face of public shame and humiliation. 507 00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:33,714 I had this overwhelming sense of relief. 508 00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:39,887 And to know that she was going to be validated was everything to me. 509 00:35:39,971 --> 00:35:41,556 That she was not a liar. 510 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:45,476 And how dare we, as law enforcement, ever say something like that. 511 00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:59,323 {an8}A man who has pled guilty to the kidnapping of Denise Huskins 512 00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:00,741 will be sentenced today. 513 00:36:01,450 --> 00:36:05,663 This will be Huskins's and Quinn's first time coming face-to-face 514 00:36:05,746 --> 00:36:06,998 with Matthew Muller. 515 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:14,922 In that entire time in captivity... 516 00:36:16,924 --> 00:36:21,012 I was a body to him behind these goggles. 517 00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:25,183 I never saw him, and he never saw me. 518 00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:27,977 And I knew that standing up there, 519 00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:31,480 I was going to turn to him and make him see me. 520 00:36:33,816 --> 00:36:36,861 And I stared right at him, and I said his name, 521 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:40,031 "Matthew Muller... 522 00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:46,162 ...now we meet face-to-face, eye-to-eye." 523 00:36:47,705 --> 00:36:51,500 "I am Denise Huskins, the woman behind the blindfold." 524 00:37:04,138 --> 00:37:05,138 And, um... 525 00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:09,852 I took myself back that day. 526 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:44,011 Okay. 527 00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:46,847 {an8}Okay, good morning. We are on the record. 528 00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:51,185 {an8}This is the recorded video deposition of Andrew Bidou. 529 00:37:52,061 --> 00:37:55,022 During the civil case, a tip came in, 530 00:37:55,106 --> 00:37:58,401 and it's about the chief of police, Andrew Bidou. 531 00:38:00,319 --> 00:38:02,697 According to the anonymous source, 532 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:06,826 before the Vallejo Police Department had a national press conference 533 00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:09,704 in which they called Denise and Aaron liars, 534 00:38:10,371 --> 00:38:14,667 {an8}Andrew Bidou told Officer Park to 535 00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:16,252 {an8}"burn that bitch." 536 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:21,674 Ms. Huskins has plundered valuable resources away from our community 537 00:38:21,757 --> 00:38:25,428 while instilling fear amongst our community members. 538 00:38:25,511 --> 00:38:29,682 So if anything, it is Ms. Huskins that owes this community an apology. 539 00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:32,184 Do you recall anyone saying 540 00:38:32,268 --> 00:38:34,270 any words to the effect of "burn that bitch" 541 00:38:34,353 --> 00:38:37,231 in respect to Ms. Huskins on the day of March 25th? 542 00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:39,317 I've never heard anybody say that. 543 00:38:50,786 --> 00:38:52,330 And I start figuring out, 544 00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:55,416 "Okay, how do I make it so you look like a monster?" 545 00:39:20,107 --> 00:39:21,984 The end of 2017... 546 00:39:24,111 --> 00:39:27,740 we find out that Misty Carausu would like to talk to us. 547 00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:33,245 I wanted to meet them. I felt like it was time. 548 00:39:35,498 --> 00:39:37,875 They walk in... Sorry. 549 00:39:37,958 --> 00:39:41,670 They walk in and I see her, and she looks exactly the same 550 00:39:42,671 --> 00:39:44,632 as she did on... on the news. 551 00:39:45,299 --> 00:39:48,260 We just hugged and we just talked for a while. 552 00:39:48,844 --> 00:39:50,262 It was very emotional. 553 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:55,976 And I tell her... ...how all I've wanted this whole time 554 00:39:56,977 --> 00:40:01,315 was someone in law enforcement to call a hero 555 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:03,609 and that she's our hero. 556 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:10,616 If Misty didn't connect Muller to us, 557 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,537 I've no idea where we'd be. 558 00:40:17,581 --> 00:40:19,417 We're lucky out of this. 559 00:40:25,965 --> 00:40:30,678 ♪ True love will find you in the end ♪ 560 00:40:31,387 --> 00:40:32,847 We got married. 561 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:37,351 We moved to the coast and started a new life. 562 00:40:42,064 --> 00:40:46,861 And in March 2020, I gave birth to our daughter, Olivia. 563 00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:53,284 And then we had another little girl, Naomi. 564 00:40:56,328 --> 00:40:59,165 And so, uh, it feels like our family is complete. 565 00:40:59,248 --> 00:41:00,082 Mm-hmm. 566 00:41:00,166 --> 00:41:01,166 Yeah. 567 00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:06,630 ♪ This is a promise with a catch ♪ 568 00:41:09,175 --> 00:41:12,178 I want them to know their value 569 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:14,847 and to never let anyone 570 00:41:16,557 --> 00:41:19,935 dictate that or determine that for them. 571 00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:27,276 More than anything, I just hope that they grow up to be like their mom. 572 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:29,570 And if they do that, they'll be okay. 573 00:41:33,574 --> 00:41:34,574 Yep. 46954

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