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♪
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♪ All we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is,
all we do is hide away ♪
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♪ All we do is lie in wait
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♪ All we do is,
all we do is lie in wait ♪
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♪ I've been upside down
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♪ I don't wanna be
the right way round ♪
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♪ Can't find paradise
on the ground ♪
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♪
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[sizzling,
footsteps approaching]
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Oh shit!
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Whoa! Oh, you...
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Ah...
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Dad?
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Dad!
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MARTIN:
Yeah?
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Morning.
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Blimey,
are you all right?
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You left a pan on.
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Me? No.
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Yeah, I wa-- I walked in
and it was burning.
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Is that your porridge?
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This was off when I left.
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Right, well,
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I've, I've like literally
just walked in.
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So...
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Well, it's still
under warranty.
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I'll get in touch
with the company.
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♪
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STEVEN:
I'm sorry,
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if I knew anything,
I'd tell you, Mr. Hollis,
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you know I would.I do.
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But if you do hear anything,
tell him I need to speak to him.
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Tell him it's really urgent.
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[distant dog barking]
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♪
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ARBITER:
And so, in the end,
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the case really came down
to one person's word
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against another's.
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And in this instance
we feel bound to consider
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Dr. Finch's many years
exemplary practice,
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and his reputation
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as a hard-working, generous,
and trustworthy GP.
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And as such we find
we do not uphold the complaint.
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PINION:
I heard him...
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He might sit there now looking
like butter wouldn't melt
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but he's got
another side to him!
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Yeah, you look embarrassed,
mate.
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You should,
'cause you're a disgrace!
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[door opens]
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♪
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[keys clacking]
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[mouse clicks]
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♪
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[knocking]Guv?
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Yeah.He's here.
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♪
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MARK HARPER [on phone]:
Peter, it's Mark Harper.
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Kate and I can find
no record of any paperwork
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relating to an ISA
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in the name of Salthouse
and I need to know today
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how a £3,000 check from him
has been cashed, so...
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you really need to call me.
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♪
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[dog barking]
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[door closes]
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There.
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[keys jingling]
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[places bag down]
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[clicks mouse]
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[clicks mouse]
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[inhales]
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Okay, uh...
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I'm gonna change
all of your settings
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so that only your friends
can comment.
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What does it make them feel
when they say those things?
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I doubt very much
they feel anything at all, Mum.
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'Cause they're messed up.
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And that....
that isn't about Dad,
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or about you, or Hayley,
it's about them.
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[inhales]
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[exhales slowly]
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It's just a mirror people hold
up to themselves to shout at.
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CASSIE:
I wanted, if I may,
to ask you
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about a house you rented,
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in Middenham,
in December 1999,
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which I believe...
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was an eight-bedroom house?
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Yes, I can't remember
specifically,
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but, yes, it wa... it was big,
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there were a bunch of us.
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Three other families?
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Yes, although,
for the first few days
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there were only me
and three mates,
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our wives and kids
joined us on New Year's Eve.
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Right.
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It was primarily
a golfing break.
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Oh, okay.
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And what were their names,
please,
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the men?
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Tim Finch.
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Chris Lowe.
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Pete Carr.
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And are they all still around?
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Yup.Still friends?
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Yes, we were at school together,
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so it's
a long connection.
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CASSIE:
And the families, um,
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can you give me details
of those people?
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Tim was there with his
first wife, Derran, and their...
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two little girls.
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Pete was single at that time,
so on his own,
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and Chris Lowe was with
his first wife, Laura,
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and their little girl.
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[pen scribbling]
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And your wife?
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Yes, my wife, Mel,
and our little boy, Eliot.
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Are you two still together?
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No, I remarried a few years ago.Ah.
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[pen scribbling]
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So this is a photo
of Hayley Reid.
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Do you recognize her?
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Yes.
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And is that just
from the papers or...
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Sorry, where is this heading?
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[exhales]
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We're just trying to corroborate
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evidence from another witness,
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who thinks Hayley
might have cleaned
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the house you rented.
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I have no recollection of that.
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You never saw her there?No.
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I, I mean we were out
most days, but, hey,
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this story was huge
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and her photo was all over
the TV, so...
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If she had cleaned our house
and any of us had have seen her,
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then I think someone would have
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mentioned something.
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Absolutely.
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[pen scribbling]
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When did you return to London,
Mr. Hollis?
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When the rental ended,
which would be,
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perhaps, around the second
or third.
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And you drove back up
with your wife and child?
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Yes.
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How did they get down there
on the 31st?
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Train, I picked them up
from a nearby station.
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[pen scribbling]
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Okay, and this is
the last question.
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What did you all get up to
on the millennium evening?
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Um, well, as I remember, we,
uh...
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we had a meal in the house,
all together...
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Then, I think the, um...
the children stayed up a bit,
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till about 9:00 or 10:00.
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I think the adults
watched a movie,
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and then all went to bed
after Big Ben.
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Is that all of you?
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As I recall, yes.
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[pen scribbling]
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And then,
no one went out again,
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for the rest of the night.
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No.
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[pen scribbling]
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Okay.
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That's it.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much
for your time.
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[distant phone ringing]
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Sorry, you said you guys
met at school?
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Yes.
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Where was that,
the school you went to?
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Finchley.Right.
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And, and you all
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lived round that area,
did you?
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Within a couple of miles, yes.
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Okay, thanks again.
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Well, I think we want to know
more about four guys
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who grew up half a mile
from her grave.
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I think we do.
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♪
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MAN:
Hollis! You wanker!
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[shutter clicking]Shit...
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[car door closes]
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♪
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REALTOR:
And this sort of sized garden
is very unusual for a flat
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in this part of the city.
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It's also west-facing, so...
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[soft chuckle]
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Anyway, have a natter,
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and I'll be outside
if you need me.
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Thank you.
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[exhales]
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He's never had a garden
with grass before.
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You like it.
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I think it's perfect.
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[chuckles]What?
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There's a "but" coming.
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But...
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if we're going to be
properly together...
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I need to know
who you are, Chris.
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[soft chuckle]
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Who I am?
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How does someone like you,
so...
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brilliant, so... lovely...
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end up like you have?
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How does that happen?
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♪
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[children playing]
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♪
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♪
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[keys clacking]
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[clicks mouse]
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BENTLEY:
So we had two key leads
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that I believed were potentially
significant,
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but were never resolved.
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St. Matthew's C of E,
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which was burgled at some point
that New Year's Eve,
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with about £5,000 worth
of 18th century silverware
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taken from a locked cupboard
in the vestry.
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Blood smears were retrieved
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on smashed glass
into the vestry,
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but there were no matches
with anyone on our database.
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The church is about halfway
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between The Swan
and Hayley's parents'
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original house,
and one possible theory
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was that she saw something
after she left work,
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she went to investigate
and ran in to the burglar
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or, or burglars.
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Certainly, I, I believe,
it's worth following up again.
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And then
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a black car which was seen
driving very erratically
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on the road between
The Swan and her house
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at approximately 12:25,
maybe 15 minutes after
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we know she left the pub.
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No reg or make,
but the witness thought
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it was a black four-door saloon
with a tow bar.
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Oh, and it's worth mentioning
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that the, the weather
was very bad that night,
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with heavy rain
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from about 11:00 onwards,
and very poor visibility.
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That's it.
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So John will be available
for the rest of the day,
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and then on the phone,
at any point, for any questions.
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But given what
he's just told us,
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I suggest DNA swabs
should be taken
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from any suspects we speak to.
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Thank you again, John,
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that was, that was very useful.
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So, specific points of action.
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Fran, can you double check
all these timelines, please,
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for Hayley's movements
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on the night of her
disappearance
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and the week before.
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Boss.
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Murray, can you take the witness
who saw this car.
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Yup.
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And, Jake, obviously the body
was found in London,
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and then given that
new development
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it's worth another chat with
Adrian Mullery, I think.
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Guv.
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Following this morning's
interview with James Hollis,
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myself and D.I. Khan
will certainly be speaking
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to the other three
male occupants of The Spinney.
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Okay, that's it;
thank you, everyone.
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That was, that was great,
thank you again.
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Yeah, no problem.
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So are you, what are you
heading back down tonight or...
268
00:13:11,031 --> 00:13:15,139
No, no no, my, my kids
live with their mum in town
269
00:13:15,173 --> 00:13:16,450
so I'm gonna stick around,
270
00:13:16,485 --> 00:13:18,004
spend some time with them
for a few days.
271
00:13:18,038 --> 00:13:19,522
Right.
How old are they?
272
00:13:19,557 --> 00:13:20,972
21, 20.
273
00:13:21,007 --> 00:13:22,767
Ah, same as mine,
boys or...
274
00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:23,906
Two boys.
275
00:13:23,941 --> 00:13:26,357
Jinx.[chuckles]
276
00:13:26,391 --> 00:13:28,600
Anyway, I better go
and check in to the hotel so...
277
00:13:28,635 --> 00:13:29,774
Go for it.
278
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,672
And we will speak soon I hope.
279
00:13:31,707 --> 00:13:33,260
Yeah, absolutely.
280
00:13:33,295 --> 00:13:35,435
John, thanks for that,
it was great.
281
00:13:35,469 --> 00:13:38,196
Listen, if you're at a loose end
any evening,
282
00:13:38,231 --> 00:13:40,681
there's always a few of us
at The Enterprise
283
00:13:40,716 --> 00:13:42,822
if you fancy a drink,
it's just, just opposite.
284
00:13:42,856 --> 00:13:44,478
Yeah, great, cheers.
285
00:13:44,513 --> 00:13:45,963
I might take you up on that.Good, do.
286
00:13:45,997 --> 00:13:47,309
All right, see you.See you.
287
00:13:47,343 --> 00:13:49,276
See you.
288
00:13:49,311 --> 00:13:50,450
Cheers.
289
00:13:51,692 --> 00:13:54,212
You're welcome.
290
00:13:54,247 --> 00:13:56,766
♪
291
00:13:56,801 --> 00:13:57,733
Yeah.
292
00:13:57,767 --> 00:13:59,459
[phone ringing]Oh.
293
00:14:01,426 --> 00:14:02,531
TIM [via phone]:
Hola gordo coño.
294
00:14:02,565 --> 00:14:04,257
Hola muy gordo coño.
295
00:14:04,291 --> 00:14:05,396
How you doing?
296
00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:07,881
JAMES:
Yeah, all good, you?
297
00:14:07,916 --> 00:14:09,296
Yeah, very well.
298
00:14:09,331 --> 00:14:11,471
I've just been
in Manchester on a work thing,
299
00:14:11,505 --> 00:14:12,955
driving back to Sussex now
with Caz.
300
00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:16,027
Oh right, give her my love.I will.
301
00:14:16,062 --> 00:14:18,305
But listen, very quickly...
I presume you've seen the news
302
00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:19,651
about the Hayley Reid case?
303
00:14:19,686 --> 00:14:21,653
Yeah, I did, very sad.
304
00:14:21,688 --> 00:14:23,241
JAMES:
Oh, wasn't it.
305
00:14:23,276 --> 00:14:25,554
Anyway, the police are
obviously doing a general trawl
306
00:14:25,588 --> 00:14:28,108
for potential new witnesses
307
00:14:28,143 --> 00:14:30,179
and they spoke to me
this morning
308
00:14:30,214 --> 00:14:31,767
about the house we rented.
309
00:14:31,801 --> 00:14:33,458
Right.
310
00:14:33,493 --> 00:14:35,495
Apparently they think
she may have been our cleaner?
311
00:14:35,529 --> 00:14:36,565
Wow.
312
00:14:36,599 --> 00:14:38,705
I said I couldn't recall us
having a cleaner,
313
00:14:38,739 --> 00:14:39,982
and I certainly think
314
00:14:40,017 --> 00:14:41,708
one of us would have noticed
if it had have been her,
315
00:14:41,742 --> 00:14:43,192
given the amount of coverage.
316
00:14:43,227 --> 00:14:44,400
Indeed.
317
00:14:44,435 --> 00:14:45,919
JAMES:
Anyway, long and short is
318
00:14:45,954 --> 00:14:47,541
they're probably going
to want to speak
319
00:14:47,576 --> 00:14:48,922
to the whole gang of us, so...
320
00:14:48,957 --> 00:14:51,649
I just thought that I ought
to let you know.
321
00:14:51,683 --> 00:14:53,030
Yeah, no worries.
322
00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:54,928
JAMES:
Obviously they're looking
for people
323
00:14:54,963 --> 00:14:58,414
who may have seen something
that only now seems relevant
324
00:14:58,449 --> 00:15:00,900
but I told them we all stayed in
the house that night,
325
00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:03,557
eating with our families, so...
326
00:15:03,592 --> 00:15:05,835
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
327
00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:06,975
Anyway, I'll give Pete a bell,
328
00:15:07,009 --> 00:15:08,321
and maybe you could give Chris
the heads up?
329
00:15:08,355 --> 00:15:10,185
Sure. Oh, and I've emailed
330
00:15:10,219 --> 00:15:11,255
some dates for our meetup.
331
00:15:11,289 --> 00:15:13,257
Oh yeah, I saw.
Um... I can...
332
00:15:13,291 --> 00:15:14,396
TIM:
do any of those.
333
00:15:14,430 --> 00:15:17,019
Excellent, speak soon, mate.
334
00:15:17,054 --> 00:15:19,332
Yeah. Cheers, Jamie.
335
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,923
Jamie sends his love.
336
00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:25,925
[blinker clicking]How is he?
337
00:15:25,959 --> 00:15:27,409
Oh, he's very well.
338
00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:31,206
He's just, uh... trying
to arrange a get-together.
339
00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,483
The four amigos.
340
00:15:32,517 --> 00:15:33,967
[chuckling]:
That'll be nice.
341
00:15:34,002 --> 00:15:35,831
Yeah, it will.
It's been too long.
342
00:15:35,865 --> 00:15:37,937
Much too long.
343
00:15:37,971 --> 00:15:40,905
[seagulls squawking]
344
00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,251
PETE:
'Course I remember!
345
00:15:42,286 --> 00:15:43,908
I was meant to have bought
the puddings and I forgot
346
00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,082
so I legged it
to the corner shop
347
00:15:45,116 --> 00:15:46,359
and bought a load
of Cornettos,
348
00:15:46,393 --> 00:15:49,086
which your ex wasn't
too happy about.
349
00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,742
Anyway, I just wanted to check
that you remembered it
350
00:15:50,777 --> 00:15:52,261
the same as I did.
351
00:15:52,296 --> 00:15:55,644
So we're all ready for the 22nd,
Chris has replied now,
352
00:15:55,678 --> 00:15:57,473
so I'll book a table
and send you all a link.
353
00:15:57,508 --> 00:16:00,269
Just one quick thing
before you go, Jamie.
354
00:16:00,304 --> 00:16:02,340
Actually, I'm literally just
heading in to a meeting, mate.
355
00:16:02,375 --> 00:16:04,860
Yeah, yeah,
I'll be ten seconds.
356
00:16:04,894 --> 00:16:09,037
Jamie, I need a massive favor.
357
00:16:09,071 --> 00:16:10,176
[children playing in background]
358
00:16:10,210 --> 00:16:12,385
CHRIS:
I was married,
359
00:16:12,419 --> 00:16:14,628
for 12 years,
360
00:16:14,663 --> 00:16:18,356
and I had--
have, I have a daughter, Maya,
361
00:16:18,391 --> 00:16:21,049
who I last saw 17 years ago.
362
00:16:23,361 --> 00:16:27,331
My marriage ended early 2000,
363
00:16:27,365 --> 00:16:28,918
and because of some...
364
00:16:28,953 --> 00:16:31,507
some issues that I had
at the time, my wife, Laura,
365
00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:35,132
she felt it was damaging
for Maya to be around that.
366
00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:38,204
And I'd run up some debts.
367
00:16:38,238 --> 00:16:39,550
So I went from living in
368
00:16:39,584 --> 00:16:45,142
a nice house in Notting Hill
to a one-bedroom flat in Acton,
369
00:16:45,176 --> 00:16:48,007
and then a hostel.
370
00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:50,975
And... and then the streets.
371
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,563
How long were you homeless?
372
00:16:54,082 --> 00:16:56,739
On and off for... seven years.
373
00:16:56,774 --> 00:16:59,397
Oh, Chris...
374
00:16:59,432 --> 00:17:00,571
I'm so sorry.
375
00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,919
And you had no friends
who could have helped you?
376
00:17:03,953 --> 00:17:05,472
Yeah, yeah, I had friends
who would have been
377
00:17:05,507 --> 00:17:06,749
desperate to help me.
378
00:17:06,784 --> 00:17:08,096
Yeah, but you have to want
to be helped.
379
00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:10,408
And I didn't.[sighs]
380
00:17:10,443 --> 00:17:11,858
I hated myself.
381
00:17:11,892 --> 00:17:13,756
I thought I deserved everything
that happened to me.
382
00:17:13,791 --> 00:17:16,345
And your marriage,
383
00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:18,071
the issues you mention...
384
00:17:18,106 --> 00:17:20,177
Okay, so...
385
00:17:20,211 --> 00:17:23,559
as you know, I have
bipolar disorder,
386
00:17:23,594 --> 00:17:25,044
which was undiagnosed
at the time,
387
00:17:25,078 --> 00:17:26,597
and so it was unmedicated,
388
00:17:26,631 --> 00:17:28,081
which meant that,
389
00:17:28,116 --> 00:17:33,017
you know, my behavior was...
challenging.
390
00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,813
And as soon as I started
costing my company money,
391
00:17:35,847 --> 00:17:38,609
it was inevitable
I'd be asked to step down.
392
00:17:39,610 --> 00:17:41,336
[laughing]
393
00:17:41,370 --> 00:17:44,028
And that was just not
what she had married,
394
00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:47,342
an unemployed man
with mental health issues.
395
00:17:48,929 --> 00:17:50,310
So she asked me to leave.
396
00:17:52,347 --> 00:17:54,176
And I did.
397
00:17:54,211 --> 00:17:57,559
And then 18 months later she
married a hedge fund manager,
398
00:17:57,593 --> 00:18:00,320
who bought her a house
in Holland Park, so...
399
00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:07,431
And then in 2012
Maya wrote to tell me
400
00:18:07,465 --> 00:18:11,193
that Laura had died
from breast cancer
401
00:18:11,228 --> 00:18:14,507
and to ask that I stay away
from the funeral.
402
00:18:16,267 --> 00:18:17,579
I thought about writing back,
403
00:18:17,613 --> 00:18:18,925
and saying, you know,
that I was better now,
404
00:18:18,959 --> 00:18:21,169
that I was a different person.
405
00:18:21,203 --> 00:18:22,687
And I am.
406
00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:26,829
But I think there comes a time
when you have to accept
407
00:18:26,864 --> 00:18:28,383
how things have turned out.
408
00:18:29,418 --> 00:18:32,283
That life can
sometimes simply be unfair.
409
00:18:32,318 --> 00:18:34,458
And to keep resisting that...
410
00:18:36,494 --> 00:18:38,427
It takes so much energy, Mila.
411
00:18:40,705 --> 00:18:42,051
Energy that you need
412
00:18:42,086 --> 00:18:44,053
for the future.
413
00:18:44,088 --> 00:18:49,024
♪
414
00:18:59,276 --> 00:19:01,554
Love?
415
00:19:01,588 --> 00:19:03,556
MARIA:
In here.
416
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:04,936
Hey, Pete.
417
00:19:06,490 --> 00:19:08,768
Hello, Mark.
418
00:19:08,802 --> 00:19:10,459
What a lovely lady
your missus is.
419
00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:12,806
I was just about to call you.
420
00:19:12,841 --> 00:19:14,877
Punching above
your weight there, buddy.
421
00:19:20,676 --> 00:19:22,299
Three grand.
422
00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:24,508
And my apologies.
423
00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:28,788
I was stressed about some deals
and screwed up the paperwork
424
00:19:28,822 --> 00:19:30,479
I accidentally paid
Salthouse's check
425
00:19:30,514 --> 00:19:32,067
into my personal account.
426
00:19:32,101 --> 00:19:33,896
But, uh...
427
00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,211
There it is.
428
00:19:38,246 --> 00:19:39,592
All there.
429
00:19:44,804 --> 00:19:48,221
You know what we used to call
blokes like Pete, Maria?
430
00:19:50,085 --> 00:19:51,983
FILTH.
431
00:19:52,018 --> 00:19:55,021
"Failed in London,
Tried Hong Kong."
432
00:19:55,055 --> 00:19:57,541
Bit of a wild west out there
wasn't it, mate?
433
00:19:57,575 --> 00:20:01,303
Attracted a very distinct
sort of person.
434
00:20:01,338 --> 00:20:03,374
I see you, buddy.
435
00:20:07,102 --> 00:20:08,379
Lovely to meet you, Maria,
436
00:20:08,414 --> 00:20:10,209
I'll let myself out.
437
00:20:10,243 --> 00:20:13,522
♪
438
00:20:13,557 --> 00:20:14,903
[door opens]
439
00:20:16,594 --> 00:20:17,940
[door closes]
440
00:20:18,734 --> 00:20:20,805
I'm sorry about that.
441
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,327
♪
442
00:20:25,362 --> 00:20:28,192
I need a shower.
443
00:20:29,158 --> 00:20:31,091
This isn't working,
Pete.
444
00:20:32,541 --> 00:20:33,887
You and me.
445
00:20:35,924 --> 00:20:39,099
I'm sorry, but...
446
00:20:39,134 --> 00:20:41,688
this just isn't what I thought
I was buying.
447
00:20:42,551 --> 00:20:43,932
It'll get better, babes.
448
00:20:46,003 --> 00:20:48,626
Trust me,
449
00:20:48,661 --> 00:20:51,319
I've got some really good
business coming in.
450
00:20:53,976 --> 00:20:56,185
[birds chirping]
451
00:20:58,049 --> 00:20:59,361
[car door closes]
452
00:20:59,396 --> 00:21:04,987
♪
453
00:21:09,026 --> 00:21:10,614
Oh, uh... I forgot to say,
454
00:21:10,648 --> 00:21:12,409
I've got
a couple of guests arriving.
455
00:21:12,443 --> 00:21:14,169
Can you show them in,
please, Liz?
456
00:21:14,203 --> 00:21:16,171
Yes.
457
00:21:16,205 --> 00:21:17,517
Thanks.
458
00:21:18,587 --> 00:21:19,933
[places pen down]
459
00:21:22,419 --> 00:21:25,318
[children playing]
460
00:21:25,353 --> 00:21:30,289
[indistinct chatter]
461
00:21:30,323 --> 00:21:31,635
Adrian?
462
00:21:33,361 --> 00:21:35,432
Have you got five minutes?
463
00:21:38,193 --> 00:21:43,819
♪
464
00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:52,759
Well, obviously I recognize her
465
00:21:52,794 --> 00:21:54,451
but, I, I don't recall
ever having seeing her
466
00:21:54,485 --> 00:21:55,762
at the house at any point...
467
00:21:55,797 --> 00:21:58,869
As Jamie said,
if we had have seen her,
468
00:21:58,903 --> 00:22:00,698
we would have discussed it
at the time.
469
00:22:00,733 --> 00:22:02,079
It was a huge story.
470
00:22:02,113 --> 00:22:03,425
Absolutely.
471
00:22:07,395 --> 00:22:09,328
So, Mr. Hollis,
he, he, he told us
472
00:22:09,362 --> 00:22:11,226
that the four of you
had gone down
473
00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:13,228
on your own at first,
to play golf?
474
00:22:13,262 --> 00:22:14,367
Yes.
475
00:22:15,817 --> 00:22:19,372
And then your wife, Derran,
and your girls
476
00:22:19,407 --> 00:22:20,684
arrived on the 31st?
477
00:22:20,718 --> 00:22:22,202
Yes.
478
00:22:22,237 --> 00:22:24,377
And how old were they,
the kids?
479
00:22:24,412 --> 00:22:28,139
Claire would have been eight,
480
00:22:28,174 --> 00:22:30,141
and Emma just turned ten.
481
00:22:30,176 --> 00:22:32,143
I'm sorry, just to go back
on one thing,
482
00:22:32,178 --> 00:22:36,355
New Year's, the kids would have
gone to bed at...
483
00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:39,565
9:00, 10:00, maybe.
484
00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:41,394
And no one went out after that.
485
00:22:41,429 --> 00:22:42,913
Nope.
486
00:22:44,155 --> 00:22:46,503
What car where you driving
back then, Dr. Finch?
487
00:22:47,676 --> 00:22:49,575
Um...
488
00:22:49,609 --> 00:22:53,441
I had my Audi in '99, I think,
489
00:22:53,475 --> 00:22:54,649
an A4.
490
00:22:54,683 --> 00:22:57,617
So was that the saloon or...
491
00:22:57,652 --> 00:23:01,828
No, the estate, we needed the
space for holidays and stuff,
492
00:23:01,863 --> 00:23:04,417
saves faffing around
with a top box or a trailer
493
00:23:04,452 --> 00:23:05,522
or any of that.
494
00:23:05,556 --> 00:23:08,076
And what color was it?
495
00:23:09,353 --> 00:23:10,665
Silver.
496
00:23:11,493 --> 00:23:13,288
And, and your wife and kids,
497
00:23:13,322 --> 00:23:15,255
they went down by train.
498
00:23:15,290 --> 00:23:19,156
With Jamie's wife and son.
499
00:23:20,295 --> 00:23:22,124
And everybody headed back
to London on the 2nd.
500
00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:23,298
Yes.
501
00:23:24,851 --> 00:23:26,577
Did you all
live in London then?
502
00:23:26,612 --> 00:23:30,892
All except Pete,
he lived in Hong Kong.
503
00:23:34,378 --> 00:23:36,725
And your marriage to Derran,
that ended when?
504
00:23:38,658 --> 00:23:43,387
What relevance has when
my marriage ended to anything?
505
00:23:45,113 --> 00:23:48,116
Sorry, if any question
makes you feel uncomfortable,
506
00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:49,842
you don't have to answer.
507
00:23:50,636 --> 00:23:53,397
We separated in 2001.
508
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:55,675
Okay.
509
00:23:55,710 --> 00:23:56,918
And do you remember when
510
00:23:56,952 --> 00:23:58,471
Mr. Hollis and his wife
separated?
511
00:23:58,506 --> 00:24:01,854
Same year I think,
or, or maybe 2000?
512
00:24:01,888 --> 00:24:03,787
And Chris Lowe and his wife?
513
00:24:03,821 --> 00:24:06,548
Yeah, roughly the same time.
514
00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:09,171
And are you still in contact
515
00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:12,796
with Derran,
if we wanted to speak to her?
516
00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:14,073
I haven't seen Derran
for many years,
517
00:24:14,107 --> 00:24:15,523
but I can get a number
from my kids
518
00:24:15,557 --> 00:24:16,938
if you need it.
519
00:24:16,972 --> 00:24:18,491
That would be very helpful,
thank you.
520
00:24:18,526 --> 00:24:22,115
Oh I, I should just say
that, uh,
521
00:24:22,150 --> 00:24:25,602
she's had a number of issues
522
00:24:25,636 --> 00:24:27,500
over the last couple
of decades--
523
00:24:27,535 --> 00:24:31,297
depression, anxiety--
and so I'm not entirely sure
524
00:24:31,331 --> 00:24:33,230
you'll find her
the most reliable
525
00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:34,645
of narrators.
526
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,820
Okay.
527
00:24:36,854 --> 00:24:38,338
Well, thank you for that.
528
00:24:38,373 --> 00:24:40,064
Uh...
529
00:24:40,099 --> 00:24:42,204
And then one last thing,
530
00:24:42,239 --> 00:24:44,552
and should say,
531
00:24:44,586 --> 00:24:46,139
do feel free to say no,
532
00:24:46,174 --> 00:24:50,799
but in order to help eliminate
you from our enquiries,
533
00:24:50,834 --> 00:24:52,801
how would you feel
about giving us a DNA swab?
534
00:24:52,836 --> 00:24:55,494
Yes, of course, no problem.
535
00:24:57,461 --> 00:24:59,877
So, if nobody went out
after 10:00,
536
00:24:59,912 --> 00:25:01,223
then it can't be them.
537
00:25:01,258 --> 00:25:02,431
I mean we know Hayley
538
00:25:02,466 --> 00:25:05,573
was seen alive at 12:10, so...
539
00:25:05,607 --> 00:25:07,644
Yeah, I think you're right.
540
00:25:07,678 --> 00:25:09,715
And if we're spinning our wheels
on these guys,
541
00:25:09,749 --> 00:25:11,786
I don't want to waste
any more time.
542
00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:14,478
Let's take the last two
separately...
543
00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:15,824
Hi, Dad.
544
00:25:15,859 --> 00:25:18,102
It's me.
545
00:25:18,137 --> 00:25:19,932
Look, I'm really sorry,
I'm going to be a bit late.
546
00:25:19,966 --> 00:25:22,348
[birds chirping]
547
00:25:22,382 --> 00:25:24,971
Please... call me.
548
00:25:30,874 --> 00:25:32,013
[sighs]
549
00:25:35,706 --> 00:25:38,571
How many times have you been
here before, Jamie?
550
00:25:38,606 --> 00:25:41,125
He'll be fine.
551
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,060
You know, the longer
this goes on...
552
00:25:45,095 --> 00:25:47,649
the more his problems...
553
00:25:47,684 --> 00:25:48,926
consume him.
554
00:25:48,961 --> 00:25:52,067
The more you look at
the paths he took,
555
00:25:52,102 --> 00:25:56,555
the choices we made--
Imade-- and think...
556
00:25:57,694 --> 00:25:59,385
Was it then?
557
00:25:59,419 --> 00:26:01,007
Was it that choice?
558
00:26:01,042 --> 00:26:03,389
Or, or that choice
559
00:26:03,423 --> 00:26:05,874
that messed everything up?
560
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:08,601
Was it then
561
00:26:08,636 --> 00:26:12,294
that I ruined my child's life?
562
00:26:12,329 --> 00:26:16,851
♪
563
00:26:16,885 --> 00:26:19,923
JAMES [on voicemail]:
Call me...
564
00:26:22,028 --> 00:26:26,895
♪
565
00:26:31,935 --> 00:26:33,764
[women chattering]
566
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,870
Sometimes I just...
567
00:26:35,904 --> 00:26:37,526
Hi...Hello.
568
00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:38,597
Gemma left some school books
at mine,
569
00:26:38,631 --> 00:26:39,805
and I, I brought them round.
570
00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:41,358
And then she wanted
to show me her room.
571
00:26:41,392 --> 00:26:42,739
Right.
572
00:26:42,773 --> 00:26:43,981
USHA:
Lovely place though.
573
00:26:44,016 --> 00:26:45,017
SUNNY:
Thank you.
574
00:26:47,295 --> 00:26:48,779
Anyway, I need to shoot off.
575
00:26:49,918 --> 00:26:51,057
Nice to see you.And you.
576
00:26:51,092 --> 00:26:52,438
Bye, girls.
577
00:26:55,096 --> 00:26:56,235
Bye.
578
00:26:56,269 --> 00:26:57,443
Bye.
579
00:26:57,477 --> 00:26:59,169
[door closes]
580
00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:01,689
♪
581
00:27:01,723 --> 00:27:03,138
Yeah, well, you see,
mine are from
582
00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:05,658
the "clip round
the ear hole" generation.
583
00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:07,384
Yeah, I think he'd still
like to, to be honest.
584
00:27:07,418 --> 00:27:09,144
Oh, dear.
585
00:27:09,179 --> 00:27:10,456
And do you have children?
586
00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:13,321
No, never had the urge
to be a mother.
587
00:27:13,355 --> 00:27:15,150
Well, smart move.
[laughs]Tell me about it.
588
00:27:15,185 --> 00:27:17,256
JENNY:
They take so much
from you, don't they?
589
00:27:17,290 --> 00:27:18,844
Not sure I'd see it
quite like...
590
00:27:18,878 --> 00:27:20,190
Just I'm too selfish I think.Yeah?
591
00:27:20,224 --> 00:27:21,398
Liked my career too much.
592
00:27:21,432 --> 00:27:24,332
I think if you are
going to have children,
593
00:27:24,366 --> 00:27:25,816
you need to be around.
594
00:27:26,748 --> 00:27:28,060
Mmm. Whoops.
595
00:27:28,094 --> 00:27:29,061
Well... yes.
596
00:27:29,095 --> 00:27:31,580
I mean, an evening
like tonight,
597
00:27:31,615 --> 00:27:32,927
it's fine
you letting us down,
598
00:27:32,961 --> 00:27:35,723
but how did you cope
when that was your kids,
599
00:27:35,757 --> 00:27:38,104
turning up two hours late
for supper?
600
00:27:38,139 --> 00:27:40,762
Oh, we, um... muddled through.
601
00:27:40,797 --> 00:27:42,902
[soft chuckle]
602
00:27:42,937 --> 00:27:45,525
Anyway, Dad tells me you're off
to Venice at the weekend.
603
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,630
I know.
604
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:47,735
You should tell him
605
00:27:47,769 --> 00:27:49,150
to stop spoiling me.
606
00:27:49,184 --> 00:27:50,669
I should.
607
00:27:50,703 --> 00:27:52,049
And first class too.
608
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,535
Venice?
609
00:27:57,296 --> 00:27:58,746
[laughs]
610
00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:01,058
[Jenny laughing also]
611
00:28:01,093 --> 00:28:03,889
[laughing]
612
00:28:03,923 --> 00:28:05,718
Right. Yeah.
613
00:28:05,753 --> 00:28:06,857
[snorting]
614
00:28:06,892 --> 00:28:07,996
Funny.
615
00:28:08,031 --> 00:28:09,480
Very funny.
616
00:28:09,515 --> 00:28:13,381
♪
617
00:28:13,415 --> 00:28:16,556
[birds squawking]
618
00:28:16,591 --> 00:28:18,593
SARAH BRADY:
Actually that's not quite
what I said.
619
00:28:18,627 --> 00:28:20,595
Okay, um, I have it here,
620
00:28:20,629 --> 00:28:23,425
you said you saw her leave
just after midnight?
621
00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:24,737
No, I said she would have left,
622
00:28:24,772 --> 00:28:26,877
just after her shift ended
at midnight,
623
00:28:26,912 --> 00:28:28,051
I never said
I actually saw her.
624
00:28:28,085 --> 00:28:30,018
[papers shuffling]Right.
625
00:28:30,053 --> 00:28:33,194
Guy Halford, the manager, he's
the one who actually saw her.
626
00:28:34,195 --> 00:28:36,335
Sorry, and so what
was the last time
627
00:28:36,369 --> 00:28:38,130
you saw her?
628
00:28:38,164 --> 00:28:39,959
Just before 11:00.
629
00:28:39,994 --> 00:28:41,789
I was working through
till 3:00
630
00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:43,342
and I took a half hour break
then.
631
00:28:43,376 --> 00:28:45,033
When Guy came back
he put me in the bar
632
00:28:45,068 --> 00:28:47,380
and I just presumed that Hayley
was finishing up
633
00:28:47,415 --> 00:28:48,796
in the restaurant.
634
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:52,731
And Guy Halford,
does he still live in Middenham?
635
00:28:52,765 --> 00:28:56,493
♪
636
00:29:05,813 --> 00:29:09,575
♪
637
00:29:15,823 --> 00:29:16,927
Hi.
638
00:29:16,962 --> 00:29:18,239
Hi.
639
00:29:18,273 --> 00:29:20,620
I'm looking
for Christopher Lowe.
640
00:29:22,105 --> 00:29:24,176
Hello.
641
00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:27,938
[dog barking]
642
00:29:27,973 --> 00:29:32,011
♪
643
00:29:32,046 --> 00:29:33,392
[car door closes]
644
00:29:34,255 --> 00:29:35,670
Go on.
645
00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:36,844
Stay there.
646
00:29:36,878 --> 00:29:38,846
Stay.
647
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,679
♪
648
00:29:50,409 --> 00:29:52,273
Mr. Carr?Yeah?
649
00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:56,518
D.I. Sunny Khan.
650
00:29:56,553 --> 00:29:57,865
Have you got five minutes?
651
00:30:06,943 --> 00:30:08,496
No.
652
00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:10,049
Sorry.
653
00:30:11,671 --> 00:30:11,879
Okay.
654
00:30:14,329 --> 00:30:15,503
Absolutely sure?
655
00:30:15,537 --> 00:30:17,332
Yeah.
656
00:30:17,367 --> 00:30:18,817
You know who she is though.Yeah.
657
00:30:18,851 --> 00:30:25,237
Of course, yeah, I, I mean
I never saw her in that house.
658
00:30:25,271 --> 00:30:26,652
Are you okay, Mr. Lowe?
659
00:30:26,686 --> 00:30:28,930
Yeah. Yeah.
660
00:30:28,965 --> 00:30:31,795
I just, I, I don't cope
with stress very well.
661
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,383
Would you prefer
to have someone with you?
662
00:30:33,417 --> 00:30:35,695
No, no, no.
No, I'm-I'm fine, fine for now.
663
00:30:35,730 --> 00:30:37,042
Okay.
664
00:30:37,076 --> 00:30:38,940
So we're, we're just asking
everyone we speak to,
665
00:30:38,975 --> 00:30:40,493
a number of general questions,
666
00:30:40,528 --> 00:30:43,255
to help us with our enquiries.Mm-hmm.
667
00:30:43,289 --> 00:30:46,430
So can you tell me what car
you were driving that week?
668
00:30:46,465 --> 00:30:49,433
I didn't take a car,
I went down with Tim.
669
00:30:50,469 --> 00:30:52,229
And then did
you and your family
670
00:30:52,264 --> 00:30:54,231
travel back with him or...?
671
00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:56,647
My wife drove down
with our daughter,
672
00:30:56,682 --> 00:30:58,546
and we went back in her car.
673
00:30:58,580 --> 00:30:59,685
Right.
674
00:30:59,719 --> 00:31:01,031
So what car was she driving?
675
00:31:02,170 --> 00:31:06,071
She would have been driving
the Maserati.
676
00:31:06,105 --> 00:31:09,350
♪
677
00:31:09,384 --> 00:31:12,284
Right.
678
00:31:12,318 --> 00:31:15,218
[birds squawking]
679
00:31:22,846 --> 00:31:24,572
You know what?
680
00:31:24,606 --> 00:31:26,988
I think I did see her
at the house.
681
00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:30,198
Right.
682
00:31:30,233 --> 00:31:31,717
Are you sure?
683
00:31:31,751 --> 00:31:34,513
Yeah, just the one time,
but, uh...
684
00:31:34,547 --> 00:31:36,411
she's got a distinctive face.
685
00:31:36,446 --> 00:31:37,826
So, yeah,
I think that was her.
686
00:31:37,861 --> 00:31:39,414
Okay.
687
00:31:39,449 --> 00:31:41,037
Was that
on your own or...?
688
00:31:41,071 --> 00:31:42,935
I'd come back
from a round early,
689
00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:44,247
I was still a bit jetlagged,
690
00:31:44,281 --> 00:31:45,938
so I went back to the house
for a kip.
691
00:31:45,973 --> 00:31:48,423
When I walked in,
she was there, hoovering.
692
00:31:48,458 --> 00:31:52,911
I said hello and asked if there
was anything else she could do
693
00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:54,360
'cause of the noise.
694
00:31:54,395 --> 00:31:55,914
What day would that have been?
695
00:31:57,156 --> 00:31:58,709
I'd have to check a calendar,
696
00:31:58,744 --> 00:32:00,711
do you know when it was
rented from?
697
00:32:00,746 --> 00:32:02,058
Yeah, uh...
698
00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:05,785
Monday the 27th.
699
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:07,822
Monday, uh...
700
00:32:07,856 --> 00:32:09,720
well, we arrived in the evening,
I remember that.
701
00:32:09,755 --> 00:32:11,274
I think we just chilled
the next day,
702
00:32:11,308 --> 00:32:12,792
had a couple of bevvies
in the local,
703
00:32:12,827 --> 00:32:15,830
and played our first
round the day after.
704
00:32:15,864 --> 00:32:19,938
So I'm thinking the Wednesday.
705
00:32:19,972 --> 00:32:21,077
Just to go back
706
00:32:21,111 --> 00:32:22,975
to the conversation with her,
707
00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:24,528
was it just about
the hoovering, was it?
708
00:32:24,563 --> 00:32:25,564
Yeah.
709
00:32:25,598 --> 00:32:26,945
When I woke up,
the other lads were back,
710
00:32:26,979 --> 00:32:28,981
and she'd gone.
711
00:32:29,016 --> 00:32:31,950
And you didn't discuss this
with the others?
712
00:32:32,433 --> 00:32:34,953
Discuss what?
713
00:32:35,643 --> 00:32:37,610
That this girl...
714
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,717
who later went missing,
715
00:32:40,751 --> 00:32:42,098
had been in the house
that you all rented?
716
00:32:42,926 --> 00:32:43,996
No.
717
00:32:44,031 --> 00:32:46,654
I mean... I drove back to London
on the 2nd
718
00:32:46,688 --> 00:32:50,140
and then flew out to Hong Kong
first thing the next day, so...
719
00:32:51,693 --> 00:32:53,212
This was a big story?
720
00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:56,008
It was huge, it was in
721
00:32:56,043 --> 00:32:57,389
all the national newspapers
for weeks.
722
00:32:57,423 --> 00:32:59,011
Right, well...
723
00:32:59,046 --> 00:33:00,702
I had no idea about that.
724
00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:04,568
And her photo
being on the front pages
725
00:33:04,603 --> 00:33:06,260
the last couple of days?
726
00:33:06,294 --> 00:33:09,918
Work's been crazy, I haven't had
time to look at the papers.
727
00:33:09,953 --> 00:33:12,887
I'm sorry, but the first
I've ever heard of this girl
728
00:33:12,921 --> 00:33:15,683
is now.
729
00:33:15,717 --> 00:33:17,202
♪
730
00:33:17,236 --> 00:33:19,963
I suppose one of us
would have cooked
731
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:22,759
and then all of us,
with the kids, I mean,
732
00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:24,036
would have eaten together.
733
00:33:24,071 --> 00:33:25,727
And that was a pleasant evening?
734
00:33:25,762 --> 00:33:27,798
Yeah.Everyone had a nice time?
735
00:33:27,833 --> 00:33:29,835
Yeah, yeah, we had a nice time--
why do you ask that?
736
00:33:29,869 --> 00:33:31,630
Oh, just...
737
00:33:31,664 --> 00:33:35,392
[laughing]:
because Christmas and New Year
can be quite stressful can't it?
738
00:33:35,427 --> 00:33:37,325
And... I understand
your marriage
739
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120
broke down not long after?
740
00:33:39,155 --> 00:33:40,984
What has that got to do
with anything?
741
00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:44,539
Well, I wondered if that was in
any way connected to something
742
00:33:44,574 --> 00:33:46,093
that happened on this break?
743
00:33:46,127 --> 00:33:48,164
You know I think I do, I think
I do need someone with me.
744
00:33:49,579 --> 00:33:50,925
And I can arrange that,
of course,
745
00:33:50,959 --> 00:33:52,892
but can you answer
that question please
746
00:33:52,927 --> 00:33:56,758
because I'm aware that of the
three of you that were married,
747
00:33:56,793 --> 00:33:59,692
all of you were separated
within the year.
748
00:33:59,727 --> 00:34:01,729
No, that was, that was,
that was nothing to do
749
00:34:01,763 --> 00:34:05,733
with anything that happened
on that break, so.
750
00:34:06,699 --> 00:34:08,287
Sure.
751
00:34:08,322 --> 00:34:09,840
Who's that?
752
00:34:13,189 --> 00:34:14,742
That's my girlfriend
and her son--
753
00:34:14,776 --> 00:34:16,709
I want to stop now, please.
754
00:34:16,744 --> 00:34:18,642
One more thing.[rustling in bag]
755
00:34:18,677 --> 00:34:22,474
♪
756
00:34:22,508 --> 00:34:24,752
Lastly, we're asking everyone
that we speak to
757
00:34:24,786 --> 00:34:27,996
how they'd feel about
providing a DNA swab.
758
00:34:28,031 --> 00:34:31,034
Entirely voluntary
of course.
759
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:32,863
How would you feel about that?
760
00:34:33,416 --> 00:34:34,693
Not a problem.
761
00:34:34,727 --> 00:34:36,971
Good, won't take a minute.
762
00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:46,394
Mr. Mullery?
DC Jake Collier.
763
00:34:46,429 --> 00:34:48,293
Have you got five minutes
for a quick chat, sir?
764
00:34:48,327 --> 00:34:49,639
Now you'll have
my home address
765
00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:50,881
but you decided to come here
766
00:34:50,916 --> 00:34:52,055
because you thought what?
767
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:53,470
That I'd be embarrassed?
768
00:34:53,505 --> 00:34:56,197
And gratefully duck in
to some car so no one saw?
769
00:34:56,232 --> 00:34:58,648
Just wanna ask a few quick
questions, sir.
770
00:34:58,682 --> 00:35:00,132
So a couple of hours ago
the head suggested
771
00:35:00,167 --> 00:35:01,616
that maybe I should take
some leave--
772
00:35:01,651 --> 00:35:02,755
some of the parents
have been uncomfortable
773
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:04,136
with the situation.
774
00:35:04,171 --> 00:35:05,310
And of course I could refuse
775
00:35:05,344 --> 00:35:06,690
because she has
no legal right.
776
00:35:06,725 --> 00:35:08,071
But do you know what?
777
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,625
I have spent the past 18 years
telling people
778
00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:12,351
that I wasn't even charged,
779
00:35:12,386 --> 00:35:14,940
that not one single piece
of evidence could ever be found
780
00:35:14,974 --> 00:35:18,219
to incriminate me,
that the lead detective retired
781
00:35:18,254 --> 00:35:20,048
just before a misconduct case
could be brought against him.
782
00:35:20,083 --> 00:35:24,743
So I am knackered
and I'll take the paid break,
783
00:35:24,777 --> 00:35:26,262
thank you very much,
784
00:35:26,296 --> 00:35:27,849
but what it also means,
785
00:35:27,884 --> 00:35:31,059
is that I am not remotely
fucking embarrassed, mate.
786
00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:33,372
I am not remotely embarrassed
to stand here
787
00:35:33,407 --> 00:35:34,546
and tell you loudly,
788
00:35:34,580 --> 00:35:36,789
no, I will not talk to you.
789
00:35:36,824 --> 00:35:39,482
I will not sit in a car
or a room or anywhere with you,
790
00:35:39,516 --> 00:35:41,035
voluntarily, ever.
791
00:35:41,069 --> 00:35:44,280
And if you want to arrest me,
be my guest,
792
00:35:44,314 --> 00:35:47,455
but I'll not say
not another fucking word to you,
793
00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:49,423
not even "no comment."
794
00:35:49,457 --> 00:35:52,115
Because I think
the police are scum.
795
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,048
I think you lie,
I think you break the law,
796
00:35:54,082 --> 00:35:56,430
I think you take bribes
and you sell stories,
797
00:35:56,464 --> 00:36:00,088
but worse than that,
most unforgiveable of all,
798
00:36:00,123 --> 00:36:02,229
I think you're thick.
799
00:36:02,263 --> 00:36:04,541
I think your ranks are made up
of dim-witted mediocrity
800
00:36:04,576 --> 00:36:06,750
who joined the force
because they wanted power
801
00:36:06,785 --> 00:36:09,512
but they're too stupid
to get employed anywhere else.
802
00:36:12,653 --> 00:36:15,414
So, shame on you.
803
00:36:15,449 --> 00:36:17,105
For the way you treated me.
804
00:36:18,797 --> 00:36:23,250
[voice breaking]:
For letting Hayley down
so catastrophically.
805
00:36:23,284 --> 00:36:27,392
And shame on you,
DC Jake Collier,
806
00:36:27,426 --> 00:36:30,395
for becoming a police officer.
807
00:36:32,397 --> 00:36:37,367
♪
808
00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:40,094
[sighs]
809
00:36:42,303 --> 00:36:43,649
And how sure did he seem?
810
00:36:43,684 --> 00:36:44,857
Pretty sure.
811
00:36:44,892 --> 00:36:46,825
It was an instinctive reaction,
I don't think
812
00:36:46,859 --> 00:36:48,516
he was recognizing her
from the newspapers.
813
00:36:48,551 --> 00:36:50,277
So this definitively places her
in the house,
814
00:36:50,311 --> 00:36:51,933
possibly with all four men,
815
00:36:51,968 --> 00:36:52,865
before the wives and kids
arrived.
816
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,073
Yeah.
817
00:36:54,936 --> 00:36:56,248
What was he like
otherwise?
818
00:36:57,007 --> 00:36:59,631
Odd, an odd mixture.
819
00:36:59,665 --> 00:37:01,805
I mean, I guess you
got to ask yourself
820
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,083
why would he be telling me
that he saw Hayley in the house
821
00:37:04,118 --> 00:37:05,982
if he had something to hide?
822
00:37:06,016 --> 00:37:07,328
But?
823
00:37:07,363 --> 00:37:10,538
But, when I asked him
if he'd give a DNA swab,
824
00:37:10,573 --> 00:37:13,679
he slightly looked like
he'd just shat himself.
825
00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:16,061
[laughs]
826
00:37:16,095 --> 00:37:17,407
What's his background?
827
00:37:18,477 --> 00:37:19,858
Uh...
828
00:37:21,066 --> 00:37:24,242
Lived and worked in Hong Kong
for 25 years.
829
00:37:24,276 --> 00:37:25,760
Mm-hmm.
830
00:37:25,795 --> 00:37:28,487
Only married for the first time
six years ago.
831
00:37:28,522 --> 00:37:29,661
No previous convictions,
832
00:37:29,695 --> 00:37:31,007
at least not here.
833
00:37:31,041 --> 00:37:32,284
Uh... ah.
834
00:37:32,319 --> 00:37:34,010
Drove down to Middenham
on a motorbike.
835
00:37:35,494 --> 00:37:37,772
Do we have a response
from James Hollis
836
00:37:37,807 --> 00:37:38,946
about his car yet?
837
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:40,119
I'll chase that.
838
00:37:40,154 --> 00:37:41,466
How was your man?
839
00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:44,400
So, um...
840
00:37:45,539 --> 00:37:47,126
He lives in a camper van.
841
00:37:47,161 --> 00:37:49,405
Oh.
842
00:37:49,439 --> 00:37:52,511
I'd say he's definitely had some
mental health issues,
843
00:37:52,546 --> 00:37:54,824
looks like he hasn't got
a pot to piss in,
844
00:37:54,858 --> 00:37:58,172
except in 1999,
845
00:37:58,206 --> 00:38:00,726
he was CEO of DDM Lowe,
846
00:38:00,761 --> 00:38:05,766
his own advertising agency.
847
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,526
And this is a guy who got
a double first from Cambridge,
848
00:38:07,561 --> 00:38:11,012
was basically a bit
of a genius through his life,
849
00:38:11,047 --> 00:38:12,773
lived in a £5 million house
850
00:38:12,807 --> 00:38:14,809
in Notting Hill.
851
00:38:14,844 --> 00:38:15,983
Wow.
852
00:38:16,017 --> 00:38:17,156
When did he leave?
853
00:38:17,191 --> 00:38:18,641
Early 2000.
854
00:38:18,675 --> 00:38:21,713
"To pursue new challenges."
855
00:38:21,747 --> 00:38:23,335
What, like how to live
in a car park?
856
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:25,682
[Cassie laughs,
cell phone ringing]
857
00:38:27,201 --> 00:38:28,823
DCI Stuart.
858
00:38:28,858 --> 00:38:31,688
Hello,
I'm just returning your call.
859
00:38:31,723 --> 00:38:33,414
It's Mel Hollis here,
860
00:38:33,449 --> 00:38:34,553
I'm James Hollis's ex-wife.
861
00:38:34,588 --> 00:38:35,865
Ah, Mrs. Hollis,
862
00:38:35,899 --> 00:38:39,006
yeah, thank, thanks
for returning my call.
863
00:38:40,352 --> 00:38:42,181
MEL:
No, it wasn't
a pleasant evening.
864
00:38:42,216 --> 00:38:44,563
What it was
was a train wreck.
865
00:38:44,598 --> 00:38:45,840
In what way?
866
00:38:47,255 --> 00:38:49,844
Look, the meal was fine,
we ate, we cleaned up,
867
00:38:49,879 --> 00:38:52,330
the kids were knackered, it'd
been a long day getting there,
868
00:38:52,364 --> 00:38:54,366
so they went to bed about 9:30.
869
00:38:54,401 --> 00:38:57,231
Which was good,
that they were in bed I mean,
870
00:38:57,265 --> 00:39:00,821
because they didn't have to see
Chris go
871
00:39:00,855 --> 00:39:02,926
completely nuts,
for want of a better word.
872
00:39:02,961 --> 00:39:04,652
How do you mean?Out of the blue,
873
00:39:04,687 --> 00:39:09,554
he just started ranting
about his life, his marriage,
874
00:39:09,588 --> 00:39:12,902
his friends,
how it all meant nothing,
875
00:39:12,936 --> 00:39:15,491
how everything was an illusion--
876
00:39:15,525 --> 00:39:16,595
it was quite terrifying.
877
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:19,426
Wow, yeah, I can imagine,
and so...
878
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:20,979
what did people do?
879
00:39:21,013 --> 00:39:23,947
Well, I mean, we all tried
to calm him down, obviously,
880
00:39:23,982 --> 00:39:26,743
particularly Laura, his wife,
881
00:39:26,778 --> 00:39:31,058
but he was flailing his arms
and shouting, and...
882
00:39:31,092 --> 00:39:32,439
and to be honest,
883
00:39:32,473 --> 00:39:34,130
we were all quite relieved
884
00:39:34,164 --> 00:39:36,201
when he then
just suddenly walked out.
885
00:39:36,235 --> 00:39:37,927
Of the house?Mm-hmm.
886
00:39:37,961 --> 00:39:39,584
And went where?
887
00:39:39,618 --> 00:39:40,861
I don't know.
888
00:39:40,895 --> 00:39:42,656
Hm.
889
00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:44,140
Had he been drinking?
890
00:39:44,174 --> 00:39:46,349
Well... he'd had a few,
we'd all had a few,
891
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:48,006
it was New Year's Eve.
892
00:39:49,007 --> 00:39:50,180
Anything else?
893
00:39:51,596 --> 00:39:53,770
Someone might have bought
some coke,
894
00:39:53,805 --> 00:39:55,979
I don't know,
maybe he'd had a bit of that.
895
00:39:56,014 --> 00:39:57,878
[pen scribbling]
896
00:39:57,912 --> 00:39:59,673
Okay.
897
00:39:59,707 --> 00:40:01,226
So who was taking coke?
898
00:40:02,330 --> 00:40:03,262
Not me.
899
00:40:03,297 --> 00:40:04,609
Not any of the women, actually.
900
00:40:04,643 --> 00:40:06,127
Tim Finch?
901
00:40:06,162 --> 00:40:08,958
Definitely not,
no, he never did that.
902
00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:09,924
Uh...
903
00:40:09,959 --> 00:40:12,271
Pete-- no,
he was more of a drinker.
904
00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,273
James... yes.
905
00:40:14,308 --> 00:40:17,622
In fact, I think it was him
that probably bought it.
906
00:40:17,656 --> 00:40:21,211
When Chris went
out of the house,
907
00:40:21,246 --> 00:40:22,627
what time would that
have been?
908
00:40:22,661 --> 00:40:23,800
Dunno.
909
00:40:23,835 --> 00:40:26,285
Just after 10:00, I'd guess?
910
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,839
And did anyone go after him?
911
00:40:27,873 --> 00:40:31,601
Yeah, after a minute or two,
uh...
912
00:40:31,636 --> 00:40:33,569
James and Tim.They catch up with him?
913
00:40:33,603 --> 00:40:36,157
No, no, Chris came back
on his own
914
00:40:36,192 --> 00:40:39,057
about an hour and a half later,
he was absolutely drenched.
915
00:40:39,091 --> 00:40:40,576
I mean, it was raining hard
at this point,
916
00:40:40,610 --> 00:40:42,301
and his clothes
were covered in mud,
917
00:40:42,336 --> 00:40:45,995
and he went straight upstairs
to bed.
918
00:40:46,029 --> 00:40:47,583
No explanation,
no apology, nothing.
919
00:40:47,617 --> 00:40:48,584
SUNNY:
Right.
920
00:40:48,618 --> 00:40:50,206
Where was Pete Carr
at this point?
921
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,104
Pete had been out
since right after the meal,
922
00:40:52,139 --> 00:40:53,485
trying his luck at the pub.
923
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,383
"Trying his luck"?
924
00:40:55,418 --> 00:40:56,730
The ladies.
925
00:40:57,938 --> 00:40:59,802
He got back just after midnight.
926
00:40:59,836 --> 00:41:00,975
SUNNY:
On his own?
927
00:41:01,010 --> 00:41:02,183
MEL:
Mm-hmm.
928
00:41:02,218 --> 00:41:03,184
And pissed.
929
00:41:03,978 --> 00:41:05,290
And your husband
930
00:41:05,324 --> 00:41:06,636
and Dr. Finch?The same.
931
00:41:06,671 --> 00:41:09,467
Oh, they got back
just before midnight.
932
00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:11,917
Just in time
for "Auld Lang Syne," bless.
933
00:41:11,952 --> 00:41:14,264
Were they separate or together?
934
00:41:16,197 --> 00:41:18,268
I can't remember.
935
00:41:19,097 --> 00:41:21,064
And what happened then?
936
00:41:21,099 --> 00:41:23,481
The guys went to bed,
the women stayed up,
937
00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:26,069
and talked about
our car crash marriages.
938
00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:27,864
Okay.
939
00:41:27,899 --> 00:41:30,936
This is really important,
Ms. Hollis,
940
00:41:30,971 --> 00:41:33,732
so I want you to think
very carefully, please.
941
00:41:35,562 --> 00:41:40,498
Did you see anyone
go out again after that?
942
00:41:40,532 --> 00:41:42,154
No.
943
00:41:42,189 --> 00:41:44,294
No one went out again
after that.
944
00:41:44,778 --> 00:41:46,331
[exhales]
945
00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:50,266
You sound very certain.
946
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,579
Firstly, I sat up
947
00:41:52,613 --> 00:41:54,442
talking to Laura and Derran
948
00:41:54,477 --> 00:41:55,754
till about 3:00
in the morning,
949
00:41:55,789 --> 00:41:57,411
and then, I mean,
950
00:41:57,445 --> 00:41:59,102
I wasn't going to sleep
with James that night,
951
00:41:59,137 --> 00:42:00,448
so I slept on the sofa.
952
00:42:00,483 --> 00:42:03,175
Except I didn't, really--
sleep, I mean--
953
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:05,419
so that meant I would have seen
if anyone had gone out.
954
00:42:05,453 --> 00:42:07,352
And they didn't.
955
00:42:07,386 --> 00:42:10,562
♪
956
00:42:10,597 --> 00:42:11,908
Right.
957
00:42:14,152 --> 00:42:16,292
The last sighting of her
was after they were all
958
00:42:16,326 --> 00:42:17,638
back in the house.
959
00:42:19,191 --> 00:42:20,503
So she could be lying.
960
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:21,987
Yep.
961
00:42:22,022 --> 00:42:23,437
Or mistaken,
maybe she did sleep,
962
00:42:23,471 --> 00:42:25,543
and one of them came down
at 4:00 or 5:00 or whatever
963
00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:26,785
and then went out.
964
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:30,133
Except if one of them
came down at 4:00 or 5:00,
965
00:42:30,168 --> 00:42:33,033
went out then and killed her,
where, where was Hayley
966
00:42:33,067 --> 00:42:35,553
between leaving the pub at 12:10
967
00:42:35,587 --> 00:42:37,313
and 4:00 or 5:00?
968
00:42:37,347 --> 00:42:38,866
No, that feels wrong.
969
00:42:38,901 --> 00:42:40,627
Yeah, maybe.
970
00:42:40,661 --> 00:42:42,042
But not as wrong as all four men
971
00:42:42,076 --> 00:42:43,837
having clearly lied to us
through their teeth.
972
00:42:43,871 --> 00:42:45,217
There is that.
973
00:42:47,323 --> 00:42:48,427
I need a drink.
974
00:42:48,462 --> 00:42:51,534
There is that.[laughs]
975
00:42:52,466 --> 00:42:54,951
[clicks mouse]
976
00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:01,889
♪
977
00:43:01,924 --> 00:43:03,857
[clicks mouse]
978
00:43:03,891 --> 00:43:04,823
[keys clacking]
979
00:43:04,858 --> 00:43:06,687
GUY HALFORD:
Yeah, it was about
980
00:43:06,722 --> 00:43:09,483
ten past,
maybe quarter past midnight,
981
00:43:09,517 --> 00:43:10,795
enough time to change anyway.
982
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:12,728
For the party?Yeah.
983
00:43:12,762 --> 00:43:15,834
'Cause she, she went as Madonna,
984
00:43:15,869 --> 00:43:17,318
the "Desperately
Seeking Susan" one,
985
00:43:17,353 --> 00:43:20,114
you know the slap and the hair
and everything.
986
00:43:20,149 --> 00:43:23,221
It was an '80s theme,
I think.
987
00:43:24,256 --> 00:43:25,361
Sorry, just a sec.
988
00:43:25,395 --> 00:43:26,707
Sure.
989
00:43:34,301 --> 00:43:36,441
This is from Hayley's diary.
990
00:43:36,475 --> 00:43:37,925
"I hate the '80s,
991
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,479
"I hate fancy dress,
so am going as me.
992
00:43:40,514 --> 00:43:41,757
"They should be so lucky.
993
00:43:41,791 --> 00:43:42,999
Lucky, lucky, lucky!"
994
00:43:43,034 --> 00:43:44,311
Maybe she changed her mind?
995
00:43:46,002 --> 00:43:48,867
Were there any other
female staff going to the party
996
00:43:48,902 --> 00:43:51,905
who would have been the same
age, same build as Hayley?
997
00:43:51,939 --> 00:43:55,563
♪
998
00:43:55,598 --> 00:43:57,980
[cellphone ringing, door closes]
999
00:43:58,014 --> 00:43:59,119
Hey.
1000
00:43:59,153 --> 00:44:01,259
Hey.
1001
00:44:01,293 --> 00:44:03,226
[phone continues ringing]Hey Fran, what's up?
1002
00:44:03,261 --> 00:44:05,228
There was another employee,
1003
00:44:05,263 --> 00:44:06,920
same build, same coloring,
1004
00:44:06,954 --> 00:44:08,300
same hair as Hayley,
1005
00:44:08,335 --> 00:44:10,406
who just confirmed to me
that she went as Madonna,
1006
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,753
and she left around 12:10.
1007
00:44:12,788 --> 00:44:14,617
So you think the manager
saw herleaving, not Hayley?
1008
00:44:14,652 --> 00:44:16,481
FRAN:
I think it has to be
1009
00:44:16,515 --> 00:44:17,724
a very strong possibility.
1010
00:44:17,758 --> 00:44:19,139
Which means the last proper
confirmed sighting of Hayley
1011
00:44:19,173 --> 00:44:20,623
was way earlier.
1012
00:44:20,658 --> 00:44:22,625
FRAN:
11:00, after which
she could have
1013
00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,109
easily have just bunked off work
early.
1014
00:44:24,144 --> 00:44:25,870
Okay, this is brilliant work,
Fran.
1015
00:44:25,904 --> 00:44:27,250
Let's talk first thing tomorrow.
1016
00:44:27,285 --> 00:44:28,596
FRAN:
Night, boss.
1017
00:44:28,631 --> 00:44:29,839
You heard that?
1018
00:44:29,874 --> 00:44:31,841
So she could actually have left
the pub earlier?
1019
00:44:31,876 --> 00:44:35,293
At 11:00, which means
we now have four men,
1020
00:44:35,327 --> 00:44:38,710
variously pissed, drugged up,
possibly mentally unstable,
1021
00:44:38,745 --> 00:44:40,367
out, somewhere in Middenham,
1022
00:44:40,401 --> 00:44:42,921
at exactly the same time
as Hayley.
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