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MAN:
There's another one,
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down by the spa.
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You asked me how to get ahead
at the firm.
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That's how you do it.
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What about merit?
W-What about hard work?
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[chuckles]
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Let me explain something to you.
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For you to rise in the ranks,
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someone has to make room
for you.
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They have to give up something,
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maybe a raise
or part of a bonus.
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Now why is someone going to be
giving up something
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unless they get something?
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[gags]
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Oh, geez. It's behind you,
corner of the bar.
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[shushing]
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M.E. HENSON:
January 5th, 9:40 p.m.
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Postmortem
examination.
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External search: Negative.
Internal trunk exploration:
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Negative.
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Forensic evidence
discovered: None.
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How is that possible?
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Excuse me?
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This man's killed four women
in a year and a half.
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How is it he can hide
in women's bathrooms,
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chloroform his victims,
undress them,
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undress himself,
have sex with them,
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strangle them to death,
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and still not leave one bit
of forensic evidence?
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Not one drop of semen?
Not one fleck of skin?
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Listen, I know you're new here,
but, uh, Dr....?
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Martin. Julia Martin.
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We're talking
public bathrooms.
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They're a convention center
of forensic evidence.
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The victims' bodies,
that's another story.
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That's how we'll get him.
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PETER: Dr. Martin,
you're still here?
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I'd like to take another look
at Emily Baker's body.
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Eh, kind of late.
Everyone's gone.
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That's okay. I'll be fine.
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I'll put everything back
the way I found it.
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HOLLOWAY: We're obviously
thrilled that this afternoon,
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a jury of his peers
convicted John Malford,
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otherwise known as
the "Bathroom Stall Butcher,"
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for the murder
of young Emily Baker.
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Special thanks to the New York
City Medical Examiner's Office,
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in particular
to Julia Martin,
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whose tireless work led to the
discovery of the pivotal piece
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of evidence against
John Malford.
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[soft jazz music playing]
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Hi. Welcome to Billy's.
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If you're gonna be a successful
attorney in Manhattan,
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this is a place you need
to know about.
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Oh, I didn't even know
there was a Billy's.
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Well, consider tonight as a part
of your legal education. Thanks.
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As a matter of fact,
FDR used to settle cases
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at that table
right there
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in the back. Oh, I don't care about all that.
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Show me where
the Benny Colón booth is.
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[laughs] No, this ain't
Dunkin' Donuts.
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[chuckles]Why don't you find us a table.
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I'll grab us some drinks.
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STELLA:
Benjamin Colón.
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Stella!
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And Ryan.
[both laugh]
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[laughs]:
Wow...
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What is the occasion?
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You two look like a pair
of breathalyzer tests
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waiting to happen.
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Well, truth is I have
a pretty good shot
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at getting a client
out of prison.
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Guy was put away for life, so...
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So what'd you do? You bake him
a cake with a hacksaw in it?
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[laughter]
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One better.
Ah.
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I discovered the evidence
that got him convicted
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may have been tampered with.
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Seriously?Yeah.
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By, uh, the police, or...?
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Medical Examiner's Office.
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Yeah.
I petitioned to have
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a client's DNA evidence retested
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and it came back-- no match,
not even close.
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Well, who's
the medical examiner?
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You know Julia Martin?
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No, no, no, no.
That must be a mistake.
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She was picked up this morning.
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D.A.'s office thinks
it was intentional.
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Who is your client?
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Remember the "Bathroom Stall
Butcher," John Malford?
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BULL: I hate
trolling for cases.
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I like to be asked.
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I like to be the one
who can say no.
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We are not trolling.
We are offering our services.
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And trust me, so is every other
A-list criminal firm in town.
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I mean, this is
Julia Martin.
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Chief Medical Examiner
for the City of New York.
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These are the kinds of cases
that get the town talking.
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Plus, I know her. There's no way
she'd tamper with evidence.
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Well, obviously the D.A.
doesn't agree with you
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or he wouldn't have
arrested her.
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Plus, I know she has
a big title,
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but at the end of the day
she's just a civil servant.
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What are you
trying to say?
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Well, is this another
pro bono situation?
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Because, frankly,
I've become such a pro at bono,
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I'm getting ready to start
my own Irish rock band.
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You wake up in the morning
and you go over in your head
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all those hundreds of things
that you have to do this week.
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It just doesn't occur to you
that you might get arrested.
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You might spend
your first night in jail.
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I'm the Chief Medical Examiner
for the City of New York.
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We want to help you, Julia.
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You know I can't afford to pay
top-shelf guys like you.
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We'll be fine.
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Will I be?
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I also can't afford for you
to do a half-assed job
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because you're just in it
for the free press.
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Keep in mind the best press
for everyone
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is about your
ultimate acquittal.
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You keep that in mind.
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All right then,
I guess it's the two of you.
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Lucky us.
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So here's what I know.
Six years ago,
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when I found that hair
in the back of a woman's throat,
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it was a perfect match
to John Malford's hair, perfect.
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100%. I still have
the evidence that says so,
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so I'm not clear
exactly why we're here.
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The problem is
Malford's attorney
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was running out of appeals,
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so he decided
to throw a Hail Mary
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and petitioned for
a new analysis of the hair,
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an outside analysis
of the hair.
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And when an outside lab tested
it, it came back negative.
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And after they popped
their champagne,
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they sent it to three more labs,
and it also came back negative.
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It didn't match
Malford's hair at all.
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That's not plausible.
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Someone switched the hairs,
or they tested the wrong hair.
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Julia, it's completely
plausible.
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You don't have to agree with it,
but it's certainly plausible.
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No. You're wrong. It isn't.
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There's no circumstance
under which I would ever
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tamper with evidence
in any case.
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Everyone knows this
about me.
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No. Everyone does not.
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Think about it.
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You performed the examination
sometime after midnight.
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You were alone
in the autopsy room,
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and lack of plausibility
is not the argument
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that's gonna win
the case for you.
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Okay. You know that
it was a pubic hair.
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Right? It was
a man's pubic hair.
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I found it in the deepest
recesses of her esophagus.
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So let's say that I am
going to plant a hair.
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Where would I have gotten
a male pubic hair from?
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Oh, come on. Those can't be that
hard to come by in the morgue.
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Is it possible you made
a mistake?
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Excuse me?I mean, maybe
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you thought you
found evidence
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that was relevant to
the case, but it wasn't.
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Emily might've
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indulged in oral sex
with someone else,
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consensual contact.
You did an autopsy.
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You found this hair.
It was a mistake.
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No, that's not possible.
I ran every test that there was.
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I ran every test myself.
That was his hair.
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Keep in mind,
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if it was truly
a mistake,
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then there is
no criminal intent.
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If there is no criminal intent,
then there's no crime.
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Mistakes.
Everybody makes them.
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So you're telling me,
if I say that I made a mistake,
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the charges might be withdrawn?
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Well, it's certainly something
I'd like to take to the D.A.
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I can't imagine that they
would want to go forward
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with this trial.
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I can't. You can't what?
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I can't say that
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because I don't
make mistakes,
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not when it comes
to forensic science.
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Does that change anything
for the two of you?
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Just makes the job harder,
but we didn't take up the offer
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because we thought
it was gonna be easy.
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We told you we wanted
to defend you, and we mean it.
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So what's the plan?
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Well, to get you out
on bail, for starters.
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I'll talk to the D.A.
in the morning, get a lay
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of the land and see what they
think they have on you.
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Dr. Martin.
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Julia.
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[knocking]
[lock buzzes]
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Thank you.
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Did you say...Thank you.
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You're welcome.
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The truth is you know
she couldn't have done this.
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She'd rather cut off her own arm
than give you a false report.
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And yet, she did.
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You think I'm looking
to take down a medical examiner?
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We work with them every day.
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I've had these results
checked and rechecked
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with four different labs.
She screwed up,
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which makes all of us look bad.
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Have you actually considered
the repercussions of this?
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You convict the Chief
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Medical Examiner for
the City of New York,
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and you are handing
a "get out of jail free" card
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to everyone you've ever
put behind bars.
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You will have a mile-long line
of attorneys out your door
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claiming that their clients
were falsely convicted.
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Is that what you want?
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Your discovery packet.
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Assuming you're still
gonna want the case
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once you see
what's in there.
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Okay, what's in there?
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Julia's first examination
of Emily Baker's corpse,
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she came up with nothing.
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Okay, so she found the evidence
the second time through.
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And that's fine,
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except she completely deleted
the first report.
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The one where
she came up empty,
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just plucked it out of the
system like it never happened.
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That's a big no-no.
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Okay.
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You know it's a breach of
protocol to delete any reports.
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Even ones that are later
replaced by updated results,
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and you know why.
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Because it can be construed
as consciousness of guilt.
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Julia's the best there is.
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Do you think she'd accidentally
forget protocol?
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She couldn't find any evidence
on the dead girl,
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she decided to take matters
into her own hands
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and create some.
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Oh, here's the bail agreement.
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Is she on her way?Already here.
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She and Benny are
waiting in your office.
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Assistant District Attorney
Williams is not your friend.
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I never said that he was.
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He's claiming you destroyed
an official autopsy report.
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Did you write an official report
stating that you didn't find
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any physical evidence after
your examination of Emily Baker
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and then delete that report from
the official citywide records?
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Yes.
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It was...
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years ago. I mean...
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You have to know how bad
that's gonna look to a jury.
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That first report was useless.
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It only said
that I didn't find anything.
249
00:12:15,299 --> 00:12:16,823
Yes, but in a court of law,
250
00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:20,000
it's going to look like
a prior inconsistent statement.
251
00:12:20,043 --> 00:12:22,785
You weren't supposed
to delete it.
252
00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:26,267
You were supposed to keep it
and turn it over in discovery.
253
00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:27,877
No, I wasn't gonna do that.
254
00:12:27,921 --> 00:12:29,879
Malford's lawyers
would've just used it
255
00:12:29,923 --> 00:12:33,927
to-to call in to question
the evidence that I did find.
256
00:12:33,970 --> 00:12:35,363
I know how these people operate.
257
00:12:35,406 --> 00:12:39,671
Julia, that first report
is still evidence.
258
00:12:39,715 --> 00:12:41,456
You can't just destroy evidence
259
00:12:41,499 --> 00:12:43,066
because it doesn't
suit your needs.
260
00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:46,853
Okay, technically, that first
report was about an absence
261
00:12:46,896 --> 00:12:49,464
of evidence, which
isn't really evidence.
262
00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:51,031
Okay, all right.
263
00:12:51,074 --> 00:12:53,598
The bottom line is,
and-and I know
264
00:12:53,642 --> 00:12:56,036
you couldn't see the future
from where you were standing,
265
00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:58,342
you didn't do yourself
any favors.
266
00:12:58,386 --> 00:13:01,955
The D.A.'s office is gonna say
that you intentionally deleted
267
00:13:01,998 --> 00:13:04,609
that report
to make it easier for you
268
00:13:04,653 --> 00:13:06,046
to intentionally
plant the evidence.
269
00:13:06,089 --> 00:13:07,874
But that isn't what
actually happened.
270
00:13:07,917 --> 00:13:10,093
Even if it looks like
that's what happened.
271
00:13:10,137 --> 00:13:12,487
It really boils down to this:
either you made a mistake,
272
00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:15,490
or someone, quite possibly you,
is guilty of malfeasance.
273
00:13:15,533 --> 00:13:18,101
BENNY: Well, Danny's already
looking into malfeasance.
274
00:13:18,145 --> 00:13:21,626
She's trying to find anyone
with the means and motive
275
00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:22,976
to have switched out the hairs.
276
00:13:23,019 --> 00:13:26,849
Which in the meantime
leaves us with: mistake.
277
00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:28,851
As I've already explained
to you,
278
00:13:28,895 --> 00:13:31,419
I don't make
those kinds of mistakes.
279
00:13:31,462 --> 00:13:33,290
Well, then someone else did.
280
00:13:34,901 --> 00:13:36,816
In either event, we need
to follow chain of custody.
281
00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:40,820
I need to know everyone
who had access to that hair.
282
00:13:40,863 --> 00:13:42,909
Julia, can you talk
to my investigator,
283
00:13:42,952 --> 00:13:45,912
talk to her about how evidence
is catalogued and stored,
284
00:13:45,955 --> 00:13:47,783
who had access,
how they get access?
285
00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:49,393
Of course. Excellent.
286
00:13:49,437 --> 00:13:52,962
Well, then, Mr. Colón and I will
see you in court
287
00:13:53,006 --> 00:13:55,008
later this afternoon.
288
00:13:56,661 --> 00:13:58,489
Everything all right?
289
00:13:58,533 --> 00:14:00,535
I guess.
290
00:14:00,578 --> 00:14:03,886
I just realized I don't know
where to go.
291
00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:06,671
And what to do until court.
292
00:14:06,715 --> 00:14:09,761
You know, my first instinct
is to rush back to the morgue
293
00:14:09,805 --> 00:14:13,374
and then I remembered
that I can't.
294
00:14:19,684 --> 00:14:21,686
Not to worry.
295
00:14:23,950 --> 00:14:25,908
It is gonna be tough
to find jurors
296
00:14:25,952 --> 00:14:27,257
who aren't put off
by our client.
297
00:14:27,301 --> 00:14:28,911
Mm.
298
00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:32,872
Maybe we should look for people
who only see the best in others.
299
00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:36,049
Actually, I was thinking
just the opposite.
300
00:14:36,092 --> 00:14:39,095
What? People who
only see the worst?
301
00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:41,141
You ever heard
of Hanlon's razor?
302
00:14:41,184 --> 00:14:42,185
No.
303
00:14:42,229 --> 00:14:43,839
"Never attribute to malice
304
00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:46,668
that which is adequately
explained by stupidity."
305
00:14:46,711 --> 00:14:49,279
We need people who will
look at this situation
306
00:14:49,323 --> 00:14:53,109
Julia's gotten into and think,
"This isn't some big conspiracy.
307
00:14:53,153 --> 00:14:56,112
This is probably
just someone's stupid mistake."
308
00:14:56,156 --> 00:14:58,114
Good afternoon.
309
00:14:58,158 --> 00:15:02,205
So let's say you send
an e-mail to your boss
310
00:15:02,249 --> 00:15:03,903
asking him for time off.
311
00:15:03,946 --> 00:15:06,644
A day goes by
and he doesn't respond.
312
00:15:06,688 --> 00:15:08,037
What do you make of that?
313
00:15:08,081 --> 00:15:09,865
He's busy.
314
00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:11,475
I like her. Tell me
why I shouldn't.
315
00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:13,216
MARISSA:
Jennifer Thomas, single mom,
316
00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:17,046
43 years old, two kids and
you are going to hate this:
317
00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:20,136
she works at an insurance
company as a claims manager.
318
00:15:23,096 --> 00:15:25,054
Can I pick 'em
or can I pick 'em?
319
00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:28,405
Probably spends her days looking
at inflated insurance claims.
320
00:15:28,449 --> 00:15:30,973
She's the very definition
of what we don't want.
321
00:15:31,017 --> 00:15:32,714
We'd like to thank and excuse
this juror, Your Honor.
322
00:15:35,456 --> 00:15:37,414
Personally?
323
00:15:37,458 --> 00:15:40,156
I hate it when people
don't respond to my e-mails.
324
00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,766
Why is that?
325
00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:44,944
Well, they're trying to tell me
that I don't matter.
326
00:15:46,336 --> 00:15:48,295
I guess I figured
he didn't get the e-mail,
327
00:15:48,338 --> 00:15:50,471
or maybe he deleted it
by accident.
328
00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:53,474
Because anyone can make
an honest mistake, right?
329
00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:54,736
Sure.
330
00:15:57,043 --> 00:15:59,393
This juror's acceptable
to the defense, Your Honor.
331
00:15:59,436 --> 00:16:03,005
Then, ladies and gentlemen,
we have our jury.
332
00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:05,007
Trial will commence
tomorrow morning.
333
00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:06,226
Court is adjourned.
334
00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:10,360
This thing that you're doing,
it's not gonna work.
335
00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:13,233
I didn't make a mistake.
I don't make mistakes.
336
00:16:13,276 --> 00:16:16,149
You're making one now.
337
00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:18,499
DANNY: So you were the lab tech
on the Malford autopsies?
338
00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:20,153
It made my career. Julia's, too.
339
00:16:20,196 --> 00:16:22,329
I hear she's a tough boss.
340
00:16:22,372 --> 00:16:24,505
She's a little uptight.
341
00:16:24,548 --> 00:16:26,855
But honestly, that's what
you need around here.
342
00:16:26,898 --> 00:16:28,030
And who handled
the evidence
343
00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:29,205
besides Julia?
344
00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:30,641
No one.
345
00:16:30,685 --> 00:16:32,295
Really?
346
00:16:32,339 --> 00:16:35,211
Julia insisted
on doing it all herself.
347
00:16:35,255 --> 00:16:37,039
All of it?
348
00:16:37,083 --> 00:16:39,041
She was certified to test DNA?
349
00:16:39,085 --> 00:16:42,262
She's kind of a control freak.
350
00:16:42,305 --> 00:16:46,092
So she put the hair in the bag,
tested it, sealed it,
351
00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:48,311
signed it into the storage
locker all by herself?
352
00:16:49,878 --> 00:16:51,401
WILLIAMS:
Dr. Henson,
353
00:16:51,445 --> 00:16:53,664
you were
the defendant's supervisor
354
00:16:53,708 --> 00:16:55,318
during the Malford
investigation.
355
00:16:55,362 --> 00:16:58,060
There was a team of us
working on it,
356
00:16:58,104 --> 00:17:00,410
looking for something
of forensic value.
357
00:17:00,454 --> 00:17:02,586
And you didn't find anything,
did you?
358
00:17:02,630 --> 00:17:04,023
No.
359
00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:06,242
But then, something happened.
360
00:17:06,286 --> 00:17:10,507
Dr. Martin stayed on after
we completed the autopsy.
361
00:17:10,551 --> 00:17:12,988
A few hours later,
she notified me,
362
00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:15,121
said she found a hair.
363
00:17:15,164 --> 00:17:17,210
We were all stunned.
364
00:17:17,253 --> 00:17:18,689
Why?
365
00:17:18,733 --> 00:17:21,736
Well, we had searched every inch
of the victim's body.
366
00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:23,825
But you were pleased. Of course.
367
00:17:23,868 --> 00:17:25,305
We all wanted to put an end
368
00:17:25,348 --> 00:17:28,221
to this horrible string
of sexual attacks and murders.
369
00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:31,224
So you were proud of Dr. Martin?
370
00:17:31,267 --> 00:17:34,227
I was proud of our unit.
371
00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:38,013
I sense some hesitation
on your behalf
372
00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:40,015
with regard to Dr. Martin.
373
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:43,323
She has always been
very diligent.
374
00:17:43,366 --> 00:17:44,715
Very determined.
375
00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:48,980
But frankly, she was
very hard on people.
376
00:17:49,024 --> 00:17:51,244
She could be quite arrogant.
377
00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:53,463
[gallery murmuring]
378
00:17:53,507 --> 00:17:55,161
Thank you.
379
00:17:55,204 --> 00:17:56,684
Nothing further.
380
00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,123
[sighs, clears throat]
381
00:18:01,167 --> 00:18:03,560
Good morning, Dr. Henson.
382
00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:05,519
I just need you
383
00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:07,521
to clear something up.
384
00:18:07,564 --> 00:18:09,436
You know, in the whole time
that you ran
385
00:18:09,479 --> 00:18:13,875
the medical examiner's office,
you never once did complain
386
00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:17,096
about my client's job
performance, did you?
387
00:18:17,139 --> 00:18:19,663
Not in any
performance review,
388
00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:22,405
not even casually,
in a face-to-face with her, say,
389
00:18:22,449 --> 00:18:24,233
in your office?
390
00:18:24,277 --> 00:18:25,452
No.
391
00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:27,758
And isn't it true
that she replaced you?
392
00:18:27,802 --> 00:18:30,805
That she went from being your
subordinate to your supervisor?
393
00:18:30,848 --> 00:18:32,894
That's not how
I would describe it.
394
00:18:32,937 --> 00:18:35,549
Ah, well, how would
you describe it?
395
00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:39,379
I mean, uh, one day,
she's working for you,
396
00:18:39,422 --> 00:18:42,382
and the next day,
she's your boss.
397
00:18:42,425 --> 00:18:45,080
It stands to reason
that you probably harbor
398
00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:47,517
some resentment towards
Dr. Martin, wouldn't you say?
399
00:18:47,561 --> 00:18:48,779
Objection.
400
00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,781
Ask another question.
401
00:18:50,825 --> 00:18:54,916
I mean, she fired you.
402
00:18:54,959 --> 00:18:56,047
Didn't she?
403
00:18:56,091 --> 00:18:57,136
Objection.
404
00:18:57,179 --> 00:18:59,007
What's the relevance?
405
00:18:59,050 --> 00:19:00,791
It goes to bias, Your Honor.
406
00:19:00,835 --> 00:19:04,273
Dr. Henson is using this
courtroom to settle a score.
407
00:19:04,317 --> 00:19:06,188
JUDGE:
Overruled.
408
00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:07,668
Please answer the question.
409
00:19:07,711 --> 00:19:11,237
We had differences of opinion
on a number of cases.
410
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,066
But she has the right to work
with whomever she chooses.
411
00:19:16,851 --> 00:19:21,029
I will admit that I did not like
the way she operated the unit.
412
00:19:21,072 --> 00:19:25,512
In my opinion,
she was obsessive.
413
00:19:25,555 --> 00:19:27,818
Determined to solve any
case, no matter what.
414
00:19:27,862 --> 00:19:32,127
Sometimes even if the forensics
did not bear her out.
415
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:33,955
BENNY:
But again,
416
00:19:33,998 --> 00:19:36,392
that is your opinion.
417
00:19:36,436 --> 00:19:41,397
The opinion of the man she
replaced and ultimately fired.
418
00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:45,053
Just my opinion.
419
00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:47,621
No further questions,
Your Honor.
420
00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:53,714
This is the last of it.
421
00:19:53,757 --> 00:19:56,847
Every piece of information
about the hair that exists.
422
00:19:56,891 --> 00:19:59,328
Your original analysis,
your second analysis,
423
00:19:59,372 --> 00:20:03,027
the independent analysis,
photos, storage data.
424
00:20:08,729 --> 00:20:10,687
Anything jumping out at you?
425
00:20:10,731 --> 00:20:12,515
Not yet.
426
00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,691
I'm not trying to get out
of anything, but honestly,
427
00:20:14,735 --> 00:20:17,216
I have no idea
what I'm reading here.
428
00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:18,478
Just give it to me.
429
00:20:19,522 --> 00:20:21,524
You, too.
Give me yours.
430
00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:29,924
[exhales]
431
00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:33,014
You don't have to sit here.
I don't need a babysitter.
432
00:20:36,147 --> 00:20:37,453
I'll be in my office.
433
00:20:37,497 --> 00:20:39,368
I'll be in my bed.
434
00:20:52,425 --> 00:20:53,600
[door opens]
435
00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:57,125
Should I come back?
436
00:20:57,168 --> 00:20:59,301
Of course not. What's up?
437
00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:00,563
Pollen.
438
00:21:00,607 --> 00:21:02,522
Excuse me?
439
00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:04,785
The hair all the outside labs
have been testing
440
00:21:04,828 --> 00:21:07,091
is covered with pollen.
441
00:21:07,135 --> 00:21:09,442
And that matters because...?
442
00:21:09,485 --> 00:21:11,357
Well, to begin with,
it makes me wonder
443
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,750
whether the hair is actually
a pubic hair at all.
444
00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:17,145
And if so, how it possibly
came into contact with pollen.
445
00:21:17,188 --> 00:21:20,540
Well, I'm sure,
with a little imagination,
446
00:21:20,583 --> 00:21:22,716
someone will come up
with a scenario.
447
00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:26,241
Emily was murdered
in the dead of winter.
448
00:21:27,982 --> 00:21:30,506
And in the dead of winter,
there is no pollen.
449
00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:35,511
This is not the hair
I found on Emily's body.
450
00:21:42,736 --> 00:21:44,128
CHUNK:
Dr. Martin,
451
00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:45,695
isn't it true that
the night that you
452
00:21:45,739 --> 00:21:49,177
found the sole piece of DNA
evidence against Mr. Malford,
453
00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:51,353
that everyone had gone home
454
00:21:51,397 --> 00:21:54,138
and you were completely alone
with the victim's body?
455
00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:56,750
Yes. And do you regularly
456
00:21:56,793 --> 00:21:58,969
perform autopsies alone,
457
00:21:59,013 --> 00:22:01,363
late at night, when everyone's
gone home for the day?
458
00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:02,625
Yes.
459
00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:04,497
And why is that?
460
00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,326
I have a really
particular skill set,
461
00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:09,371
and I find
that skill set works best
462
00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:11,330
when there's just two of us
in the room.
463
00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:13,680
Myself, and the cadaver.
464
00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:17,640
Other people really just end up
being distractions.
465
00:22:17,684 --> 00:22:20,382
All right.
Let's talk about that.
466
00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:22,558
When you say that other people
are distractions,
467
00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:26,083
it sounds very... negative.
468
00:22:26,127 --> 00:22:27,302
Very dismissive.
469
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:28,912
One could easily get
the impression
470
00:22:28,956 --> 00:22:31,132
that you just don't like people.
471
00:22:31,175 --> 00:22:34,483
And we want the
jurors to like you.
472
00:22:34,527 --> 00:22:37,094
And it helps if they think
you might like them.
473
00:22:37,138 --> 00:22:40,359
[exhales]
I don't know them.
474
00:22:40,402 --> 00:22:41,664
Of course.
475
00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:46,408
Okay, um, let's forget
that line of thinking.
476
00:22:46,452 --> 00:22:48,976
Here's another reason
why saying you find
477
00:22:49,019 --> 00:22:52,196
other people distracting might
not serve your best interests:
478
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,198
anything that makes it sound
like you don't like
479
00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:56,418
having people around
when you do your work
480
00:22:56,462 --> 00:22:58,420
might make the jurors
think that you don't
481
00:22:58,464 --> 00:23:01,205
want company because
it makes it harder
482
00:23:01,249 --> 00:23:03,512
to manipulate evidence.
483
00:23:05,209 --> 00:23:06,863
You see that, right?
484
00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:09,431
I don't manipulate evidence.
I know that.
485
00:23:09,475 --> 00:23:11,955
But you're-you're talking
to people who don't know you.
486
00:23:11,999 --> 00:23:15,394
So how would you suggest
I answer that?
487
00:23:15,437 --> 00:23:19,223
Well, maybe there's another
reason you work late
488
00:23:19,267 --> 00:23:21,443
that wouldn't lead them
to the same conclusion.
489
00:23:21,487 --> 00:23:25,099
Maybe you find it
impossible to sleep
490
00:23:25,142 --> 00:23:26,448
when there are grieving
friends and relatives
491
00:23:26,492 --> 00:23:28,407
out there waiting for answers
492
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:31,235
as to what happened
to their loved ones?
493
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:34,413
I can't say that.
That's-that's not the truth.
494
00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:36,023
Maybe there's a truth
495
00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:39,069
that's more palatable
to the jury.
496
00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:44,466
Mr. Palmer, I'm a scientist,
and scientists deal with facts.
497
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:48,078
There is one truth,
there's one right answer.
498
00:23:48,122 --> 00:23:52,474
If you ask me a question, I am
going to give you that truth.
499
00:23:52,518 --> 00:23:54,563
As to whether it's palatable,
500
00:23:54,607 --> 00:23:56,783
that's not something
I've ever concerned myself with.
501
00:23:56,826 --> 00:23:58,915
Well, it ought to be, because
you're gonna be spending
502
00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:01,483
ten years in prison for
something that you didn't do
503
00:24:01,527 --> 00:24:03,572
if we can't make the
jury understand
504
00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:05,226
your side of the story.
505
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:07,794
Okay, again, there is
no "my side" of the story.
506
00:24:07,837 --> 00:24:09,186
There is what happened,
507
00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:11,450
and there is
what did not happen.
508
00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:15,018
There is truth and fact,
and there is falsehood.
509
00:24:15,062 --> 00:24:18,544
You can't spin the truth,
you cannot polish it up
510
00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:21,460
or put lipstick on a pig,
which is what I feel like
511
00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:22,722
you're trying to do
to me right now.
512
00:24:22,765 --> 00:24:24,463
I am what I am.
513
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,595
I did what I did, and I don't
regret a minute of it
514
00:24:26,639 --> 00:24:30,512
because I did it
all by the book.
515
00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,993
So are we done here?
516
00:24:33,036 --> 00:24:36,257
It certainly seems that way.
517
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:37,693
You talk to Chunk?Sure did.
518
00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:39,565
You still want to put her
on the stand?
519
00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:41,001
I do.
520
00:24:41,044 --> 00:24:42,916
He said that
she's fundamentally incapable
521
00:24:42,959 --> 00:24:45,527
of shading her answers
even one iota.
522
00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:48,399
Even at the risk of sending
herself to prison.
523
00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,358
I'm waiting for the bad news.
524
00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:52,578
I'm pretty sure I just
gave you the bad news.
525
00:24:52,621 --> 00:24:55,276
So the truth is, this woman
can't even fudge the facts
526
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:56,973
to keep herself out of jail.
527
00:24:57,017 --> 00:24:59,541
Now we just have to get a jury
to understand that that means
528
00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:01,587
she couldn't possibly
have fudged them
529
00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:04,111
to put someone else behind bars.
530
00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:05,547
BENNY:
We've heard a lot
531
00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:08,681
about the fact
that you like to work alone
532
00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:10,683
and often late at night.
533
00:25:10,726 --> 00:25:12,554
Can you please tell us
534
00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:15,209
why that's your practice,
Dr. Martin?
535
00:25:15,252 --> 00:25:19,039
I'm not good with people.
536
00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:23,086
I know how
that sounds.
537
00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:25,393
Trust me, it's not made me
a lot of friends.
538
00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,526
[soft laughter]
539
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:29,702
But I am good
at my job.
540
00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:32,139
I'm great at my job.
541
00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:34,228
And in order to be
the best at my job,
542
00:25:34,271 --> 00:25:36,012
I have to be able
to concentrate.
543
00:25:36,056 --> 00:25:38,972
I have to know that every single
step of that process
544
00:25:39,015 --> 00:25:42,279
was done
with precision and care.
545
00:25:42,323 --> 00:25:44,934
And if I do every step myself,
I don't have to worry
546
00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:46,588
that it wasn't done properly.
547
00:25:46,632 --> 00:25:49,504
I don't have to worry
548
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,985
that I offended someone
because I criticized them
549
00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:53,987
for making a mistake.
550
00:25:54,030 --> 00:25:55,597
Or that I forgot
to praise someone
551
00:25:55,641 --> 00:25:57,773
for just doing their job.
552
00:25:57,817 --> 00:26:02,430
So what do you say
to the allegations
553
00:26:02,473 --> 00:26:04,650
that you falsified evidence
554
00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:07,609
in order to get a conviction
against John Malford?
555
00:26:07,653 --> 00:26:10,003
I would say that's ridiculous.
556
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:12,440
I don't care about John Malford.
557
00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:15,051
I have never cared
about who gets convicted.
558
00:26:15,095 --> 00:26:17,445
That's not
a win for me.
559
00:26:17,488 --> 00:26:20,230
A win for me is finding
the right answer.
560
00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:23,973
It's solving the puzzle,
it's making the crime stop.
561
00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:26,628
I do crosswords a lot.
562
00:26:26,672 --> 00:26:29,675
And they have
these new apps now.
563
00:26:29,718 --> 00:26:32,721
If you get stuck, you can prompt
it, and it'll give you a word,
564
00:26:32,765 --> 00:26:34,331
or it will give you a letter.
565
00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:37,465
And I would...
I would just never do that.
566
00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:40,120
I would never
want to do that,
567
00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:43,340
because having
a filled-out crossword,
568
00:26:43,384 --> 00:26:45,734
that does nothing for me.
569
00:26:45,778 --> 00:26:50,783
But solving it myself, that's
the part that's satisfying.
570
00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:55,657
So no, I would never falsify
evidence to get a conviction,
571
00:26:55,701 --> 00:26:59,182
because then I would
never really know who did it.
572
00:26:59,226 --> 00:27:01,707
I wouldn't solve the puzzle.
573
00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:05,754
If you cheat,
you never find the truth.
574
00:27:09,192 --> 00:27:10,759
Marissa?
575
00:27:10,803 --> 00:27:12,456
MARISSA:
No movement yet,
576
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,894
but they clearly want
to believe her.
577
00:27:14,937 --> 00:27:17,592
Baby steps.
578
00:27:19,072 --> 00:27:22,641
I'm starting to think Chunk
doesn't know his own strength.
579
00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,425
Kept telling me she was
hopeless, but he actually
580
00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:27,646
turned her into
a very effective witness.
581
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:32,346
Ah, speak of the devil. Oh...
582
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:34,696
What have we here?
583
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,611
TAYLOR:
Well,
584
00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,787
I wasn't able to connect Malford
directly to any of the people
585
00:27:38,831 --> 00:27:40,702
who worked at the medical
examiner's office,
586
00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:43,357
but then Danny had a great idea.
DANNY: Serial killers
587
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,576
like Malford tend to attract
obsessive fans.
588
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,143
Total strangers who begin
to believe they have
589
00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:49,363
an intimate relationship
with these killers.
590
00:27:49,406 --> 00:27:51,365
Excessive adoration disorder.
591
00:27:51,408 --> 00:27:53,541
Oh, yeah.
I've heard of this.
592
00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:57,284
Crazy ladies who marry prisoners
they've never met before.
593
00:27:57,327 --> 00:27:59,678
Well, they're not all ladies
and they don't all get married,
594
00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:02,376
but yes, that's what
we're talking about.
595
00:28:02,419 --> 00:28:03,812
Malford hasn't had a
jailhouse wedding yet,
596
00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:06,293
but he does have
quite the fan club.
597
00:28:06,336 --> 00:28:08,599
TAYLOR: Our guy's gotten
thousands of letters,
598
00:28:08,643 --> 00:28:10,558
and he's responded
to hundreds of them.
599
00:28:10,601 --> 00:28:12,473
CHUNK: The good news is,
Sing Sing keeps a scan
600
00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:13,692
of all incoming
and outgoing mail,
601
00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:15,911
and they gave Taylor access.
602
00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:18,174
Any one of these admirers
sound like they'd be willing
603
00:28:18,218 --> 00:28:19,741
to help Malford
break out of prison?
604
00:28:19,785 --> 00:28:20,960
TAYLOR:
Oh, yeah.
605
00:28:21,003 --> 00:28:22,744
There's no shortage of those.
606
00:28:22,788 --> 00:28:25,094
But we're still talking
about over two dozen people.
607
00:28:25,138 --> 00:28:26,705
The math is not encouraging.
608
00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:28,532
More than 80 people had access
609
00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:30,578
to the evidence
storage facility.
610
00:28:30,621 --> 00:28:32,145
More than two dozen crazies
writing love letters.
611
00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:34,887
BENNY: That's a
lot of leads
612
00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:37,280
to be running down in
the middle of a trial.
613
00:28:37,324 --> 00:28:39,239
We don't have the time.
614
00:28:39,282 --> 00:28:40,893
I'm betting a day,
maybe two,
615
00:28:40,936 --> 00:28:44,113
before the judge forces
us to rest our case.
616
00:28:44,157 --> 00:28:46,899
Maybe we should just
go right to the source.
617
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:49,510
Excuse me?
618
00:28:49,553 --> 00:28:51,860
See how early Benny and I
can get into Sing Sing tomorrow
619
00:28:51,904 --> 00:28:53,775
to talk with John Malford.
620
00:28:53,819 --> 00:28:56,778
Uh-- John Malford?
Seriously?
621
00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:59,868
Yeah. Sometimes the shortest
distance between two points
622
00:28:59,912 --> 00:29:01,478
is a straight line.
623
00:29:01,522 --> 00:29:03,829
We need to figure out
who's helping this guy
624
00:29:03,872 --> 00:29:07,484
break out of prison;
why don't we just go ask him?
625
00:29:16,232 --> 00:29:17,756
So what's
the game plan here, boss?
626
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:19,845
I just want to look him
in the eye, see what I see.
627
00:29:19,888 --> 00:29:21,847
Maybe he'll offer something
useful, maybe he won't.
628
00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:24,501
Serial killers tend to be
outsized narcissists.
629
00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:27,113
Nothing they like to talk
about more than themselves.
630
00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:29,376
I just want to
get him talking.
631
00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:35,948
Ryan, good to see you.
632
00:29:35,991 --> 00:29:37,906
I didn't know you'd
be joining us.
633
00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:39,125
Benny, Dr. Bull, pleasure.
634
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:42,998
When the prison informed me
you'd requested a meeting,
635
00:29:43,042 --> 00:29:44,783
I thought it wise to sit in.
636
00:29:44,826 --> 00:29:46,088
BULL:
Of course.
637
00:29:46,132 --> 00:29:47,916
Just to be clear,
this was all very last minute.
638
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,092
Nobody's trying to
pull a fast one...
639
00:29:50,136 --> 00:29:51,920
Never even crossed my mind.
640
00:29:51,964 --> 00:29:54,009
Just want to be certain
everyone remembers,
641
00:29:54,053 --> 00:29:55,924
my client isn't on trial.
642
00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,230
Yours is.
643
00:29:57,273 --> 00:30:00,015
Oh, I think we're all
very clear about that.
644
00:30:02,017 --> 00:30:03,584
You must be Mr. Malford.
645
00:30:03,627 --> 00:30:05,629
Yeah. John.
646
00:30:05,673 --> 00:30:07,022
Who are you?
647
00:30:07,066 --> 00:30:08,110
RYAN: These are the
gentlemen representing
648
00:30:08,154 --> 00:30:09,677
the medical examiner
649
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,853
who falsified the evidence
that got you locked up, John.
650
00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:13,246
Hmm.
651
00:30:13,289 --> 00:30:14,900
RYAN:
So...
652
00:30:14,943 --> 00:30:16,815
what can we do for you?
653
00:30:16,858 --> 00:30:18,381
Well, we just wanted
to get a look at the man
654
00:30:18,425 --> 00:30:20,557
who's at the center of our case.
655
00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:22,429
How you holding up
in here, John?
656
00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:24,605
Holding up good.
657
00:30:24,648 --> 00:30:27,782
Working out, food's okay.
658
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:29,784
How's your head?
659
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,656
You lonely?
You have any friends?
660
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,920
Oh, yeah. I got friends.
661
00:30:34,963 --> 00:30:36,791
[laughs softly]
Inside and outside.
662
00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:38,619
BULL:
Aha.
663
00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:40,621
How do you mean, "outside"?
664
00:30:40,664 --> 00:30:41,883
Oh, you know.
665
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:46,496
I get letters, pictures.
People want to visit.
666
00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:50,500
Want to, um, make friends.
667
00:30:50,544 --> 00:30:52,894
Women.
Mm.
668
00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:57,072
Oh. That sounds like a...
great life.
669
00:30:57,116 --> 00:31:00,641
Some of those pictures
are naked.
670
00:31:00,684 --> 00:31:02,948
RYAN: So, you two working
for the prison now?
671
00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:05,733
Hmm? Conducting a customer
satisfaction survey?
672
00:31:05,776 --> 00:31:07,996
The point is, John here's
been a model prisoner,
673
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,042
he's adapted to prison life
flawlessly.
674
00:31:10,085 --> 00:31:13,567
Not a black mark on his record
to hinder his appeal.
675
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:16,483
Ah. Right. John's appeal.
676
00:31:16,526 --> 00:31:18,920
Hey, I-I've got to ask,
677
00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:21,618
why even bother
with the appeal?
678
00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:23,751
You seem so content.
679
00:31:23,794 --> 00:31:25,100
Because he's innocent.
680
00:31:25,144 --> 00:31:27,146
JOHN:
What do I care
681
00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:30,149
if this guy wants to
push some papers around?
682
00:31:30,192 --> 00:31:31,411
No skin off my back.
683
00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:32,934
I mean, what's the worst
thing that happens?
684
00:31:32,978 --> 00:31:36,111
I actually... get out?
685
00:31:36,155 --> 00:31:38,984
You're right.
686
00:31:39,027 --> 00:31:40,724
No harm, no foul.
687
00:31:40,768 --> 00:31:44,293
This has been great.
688
00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:47,383
Really... helpful.
689
00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:49,168
Mr. Vance.
690
00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:51,387
Mr. Malford.
691
00:31:53,694 --> 00:31:55,870
Hey, why'd you cut bait
like that?
692
00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:57,959
The guy was just warming up.
693
00:31:58,003 --> 00:32:00,135
Maybe we could've gotten a name,
694
00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:02,311
maybe found our inside man
at the morgue.
695
00:32:02,355 --> 00:32:05,053
There is no name.
696
00:32:05,097 --> 00:32:06,750
There is no inside man
at the morgue.
697
00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:07,969
How do you mean?
698
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:09,928
[sighs]
699
00:32:09,971 --> 00:32:12,191
Did Malford seem like
he'd even contemplated
700
00:32:12,234 --> 00:32:13,714
life outside of prison?
701
00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:16,369
No. It didn't seem like
702
00:32:16,412 --> 00:32:18,937
he actually cared much
about his appeal at all.
703
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:20,982
Exactly. He also showed
very little interest
704
00:32:21,026 --> 00:32:22,201
in Julia's case.
705
00:32:22,244 --> 00:32:24,420
Now, if this guy spent
the last six years
706
00:32:24,464 --> 00:32:27,858
hatching this scheme and
manipulating some admirer
707
00:32:27,902 --> 00:32:29,295
to do his bidding,
don't you think he'd be
708
00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:31,297
a little more invested
in the fruits of his labor?
709
00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:33,821
So, Malford didn't do it?
710
00:32:33,864 --> 00:32:36,084
Malford didn't change
the evidence?
711
00:32:36,128 --> 00:32:37,520
Back to square one?
712
00:32:37,564 --> 00:32:40,480
Maybe not.
713
00:32:40,523 --> 00:32:43,091
Malford might have no
interest in Julia's case,
714
00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:46,312
but someone put
this thing in motion.
715
00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:48,314
Who do you mean?
716
00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:51,752
Ryan? No.
717
00:32:51,795 --> 00:32:54,450
Ryan's his lawyer.
He's just doing his job.
718
00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:57,366
You don't think it strange
that he was there
719
00:32:57,410 --> 00:33:00,152
at that meeting just now,
or that he has been
720
00:33:00,195 --> 00:33:02,719
in court every day
of Julia's trial?
721
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,375
I don't know, Bull.
722
00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:10,249
Ryan is not my favorite guy,
723
00:33:10,292 --> 00:33:13,121
but what does he care
if Julia goes down?
724
00:33:13,165 --> 00:33:15,254
I'm not sure.
725
00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:16,864
I'm just telling you
what I see.
726
00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:24,263
Since we moved off
the fangirl theory
727
00:33:24,306 --> 00:33:26,134
and onto Malford's lawyer,
728
00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:27,918
I circled back
to the 80 people
729
00:33:27,962 --> 00:33:29,833
who had access to the
evidence storage facility
730
00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:31,835
at the medical examiner's
office to see if I could
731
00:33:31,879 --> 00:33:33,402
try to find some
kind of link.
732
00:33:33,446 --> 00:33:35,839
We never did do a deep dive
into any of their finances,
733
00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:37,450
because Malford was broke,
734
00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,495
so it didn't seem
particularly relevant.
735
00:33:39,539 --> 00:33:43,499
But Malford's attorney,
Mr. Ryan Vance, Esquire, is not.
736
00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:45,197
He has plenty of money
to pay off
737
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,981
an overworked,
underpaid lab tech.
738
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,809
Like Skylar Brown.
739
00:33:48,852 --> 00:33:51,594
Skylar was wrestling with a
significant amount of debt.
740
00:33:51,638 --> 00:33:53,727
She maxed out four
credit cards and has
741
00:33:53,770 --> 00:33:55,294
two delinquent
homeowner loans.
742
00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:57,513
But, coincidentally,
Skylar seems to have had
743
00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,472
a financial windfall,
744
00:33:59,515 --> 00:34:01,126
just three weeks prior
745
00:34:01,169 --> 00:34:02,649
to the independent analysis
of Malford's hair.
746
00:34:02,692 --> 00:34:05,739
A cash deposit,
$60,000,
747
00:34:05,782 --> 00:34:07,262
straight into her
personal checking account.
748
00:34:07,306 --> 00:34:11,005
Hmm. Okay, $60,000 question.
749
00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,094
Can we tie any of this cash
back to Ryan Vance?
750
00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:15,618
Not yet, but we are
gonna keep at it.
751
00:34:16,967 --> 00:34:18,795
I feel the heat all
the way over here.
752
00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:20,101
Something not
clicking for you?
753
00:34:20,145 --> 00:34:24,062
I got everything but the "why."
754
00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:27,108
Why would a successful attorney
like Ryan Vance
755
00:34:27,152 --> 00:34:31,417
put his entire livelihood,
his entire legacy on the line
756
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:35,247
for a rapist and a murderer
like John Malford?
757
00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:37,118
So...
758
00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:39,338
why frame Julia?
759
00:34:39,381 --> 00:34:41,557
Why go to all the trouble?
760
00:34:41,601 --> 00:34:43,951
Why risk putting
a homicidal sexual predator
761
00:34:43,994 --> 00:34:46,997
back on the street, earn
the enmity of the D.A.'s office
762
00:34:47,041 --> 00:34:51,915
by forcing them to reopen every
case where Julia's evidence
763
00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:53,961
put someone away?
764
00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:58,705
Why?
765
00:34:58,748 --> 00:35:00,968
What are you thinking?
766
00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:02,926
Taylor, how long
do you think it'd take
767
00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:05,668
to get a list
of Ryan Vance's other clients?
768
00:35:05,712 --> 00:35:08,149
The other clients that are
currently incarcerated?
769
00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:10,934
I'm kind of
in the middle of something...
770
00:35:10,978 --> 00:35:13,589
I don't care. I want that list.
771
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,243
BENNY:
With Your Honor's approval,
772
00:35:15,287 --> 00:35:18,725
we'd like to call the person
sitting in the third row,
773
00:35:18,768 --> 00:35:22,598
John Malford's attorney
Ryan Vance, to the stand.
774
00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,426
JUDGE: Has the defense
subpoenaed Mr. Vance?
775
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:25,862
We don't typically allow
776
00:35:25,906 --> 00:35:28,474
those seated in the gallery
to testify.
777
00:35:28,517 --> 00:35:30,084
Yes, we're aware of that,
Your Honor.
778
00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,217
But we're hoping
that the court will see fit
779
00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:34,349
to grant us this approval.
RYAN: Your Honor,
780
00:35:34,393 --> 00:35:36,351
I'm sorry, I-- this is the first
I'm hearing of this.
781
00:35:36,395 --> 00:35:37,570
BENNY:
Mr. Vance's
782
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,702
petition
for the independent analysis
783
00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:41,617
of the Malford
evidence
784
00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:43,228
initiated this whole trial.
785
00:35:43,271 --> 00:35:45,882
I'd merely like him to speak
786
00:35:45,926 --> 00:35:49,277
to the history of how
that new analysis came to be.
787
00:35:50,757 --> 00:35:53,281
All right. I'll allow it.
788
00:35:53,325 --> 00:35:56,589
BENNY: So Mr. Vance,
when you requested
789
00:35:56,632 --> 00:35:58,591
an independent examination
of the evidence
790
00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:02,377
in the John Malford case,
did you know a negative match
791
00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:06,076
would call into question
the professional conduct
792
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,167
and scientific expertise
of my client,
793
00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:11,299
Dr. Julia Martin?
794
00:36:11,343 --> 00:36:12,953
That would be
a natural consequence.
795
00:36:12,996 --> 00:36:15,347
She did perform
the original analysis.
796
00:36:19,568 --> 00:36:21,788
Isn't it true
797
00:36:21,831 --> 00:36:25,183
that other cases will be
reexamined as a result
798
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:27,707
of Dr. Martin's prosecution?
799
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:31,972
Countless other criminals,
murderers, rapists and thieves
800
00:36:32,015 --> 00:36:34,453
are going to file for dismissal
of their sentences.
801
00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:37,195
As well they should be, yes.
802
00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:42,809
Ah. I-Isn't it also true
that you are the sole owner
803
00:36:42,852 --> 00:36:48,162
of Barnaby Bank
account number 00403010?
804
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:50,556
I don't know, I...
It very well could be.
805
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,166
I don't have
my account number memorized.
806
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:56,518
I do bank at Barnaby,
so yes, I suppose.
807
00:36:56,562 --> 00:37:01,219
A-And isn't it also true that
you withdrew $60,000 in cash
808
00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:03,525
on September 21st
from this account?
809
00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:05,832
Again, it's months ago.
810
00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:07,312
I don't have
every transaction memorized,
811
00:37:07,355 --> 00:37:10,053
so yes, it's possible,
it sounds possible.
812
00:37:10,097 --> 00:37:12,926
[laughs]:
If you say so.
813
00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:15,015
Well, it's not me saying it.
814
00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:16,712
Your Honor,
815
00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:19,585
these are Mr. Vance's
bank records
816
00:37:19,628 --> 00:37:22,283
for the month of September.
817
00:37:22,327 --> 00:37:26,026
I'd ask that you mark them
818
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:28,115
as defense exhibit
number 14.
819
00:37:28,158 --> 00:37:29,725
So marked.
820
00:37:29,769 --> 00:37:34,164
And lastly,
do you know a Skylar Brown?
821
00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:36,471
RYAN:
Uh...
822
00:37:36,515 --> 00:37:39,518
Uh, name rings a bell.
I-I can't be certain, though.
823
00:37:39,561 --> 00:37:41,998
Well, she's an employee
of the medical examiner's office
824
00:37:42,042 --> 00:37:45,828
with full access
to all evidence storage.
825
00:37:45,872 --> 00:37:48,744
Including DNA samples.
Objection, Your Honor. Relevance?
826
00:37:48,788 --> 00:37:51,138
I'm moments away,
Your Honor, I promise.
827
00:37:51,181 --> 00:37:53,271
I certainly hope so. Overruled.
828
00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:54,663
Isn't it strange
829
00:37:54,707 --> 00:37:58,493
that just two days after
you made your withdrawal,
830
00:37:58,537 --> 00:38:01,104
Skylar Brown paid off
all of her credit cards,
831
00:38:01,148 --> 00:38:04,107
her delinquent loans?
832
00:38:04,151 --> 00:38:06,849
All of her
outstanding debts?
833
00:38:06,893 --> 00:38:11,898
Following a deposit
of exactly $60,000 in cash
834
00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:13,682
into her
checking account?
835
00:38:13,726 --> 00:38:17,817
I wouldn't say strange.
I might say coincidental.
836
00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,254
Ah.
837
00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:22,038
How old were you
when your brother
838
00:38:22,082 --> 00:38:23,388
was convicted of murder?
839
00:38:26,869 --> 00:38:28,828
I really don't think
that has anything to do
840
00:38:28,871 --> 00:38:30,395
with the business at hand.
841
00:38:30,438 --> 00:38:35,051
I-Isn't your brother Trevor
one of your clients?
842
00:38:35,095 --> 00:38:40,274
And wasn't the evidence in his
case also assessed by my client,
843
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,624
Dr. Julia Martin?
844
00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:45,323
And if Dr. Martin
is found guilty,
845
00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:48,151
isn't Trevor's conviction
likely to be overturned,
846
00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:50,328
just like John Malford's?
847
00:38:50,371 --> 00:38:52,112
And isn't that
why you paid
848
00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:56,812
Skylar Brown $60,000,
849
00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:58,205
to replace the hair
that was used
850
00:38:58,248 --> 00:39:01,251
to convict your client,
John Malford?
851
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,127
JUDGE:
Mr. Vance,
852
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,172
do you need
the question repeated?
853
00:39:11,305 --> 00:39:13,394
Oh, that's all right,
Your Honor.
854
00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:16,441
I think the jury already has
their answer.
855
00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:18,181
No further questions.
856
00:39:22,621 --> 00:39:25,580
Is the prosecution prepared
to cross-examine the witness?
857
00:39:30,324 --> 00:39:32,631
Actually, no.
858
00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:37,766
But we are prepared,
based on Ryan Vance's testimony
859
00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:41,291
and the evidence presented
by Mr. Colón,
860
00:39:41,335 --> 00:39:42,641
to withdraw our charges
861
00:39:42,684 --> 00:39:44,643
against Dr. Martin...
[gallery murmuring]
862
00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:47,950
...and offer our apologies.
863
00:39:47,994 --> 00:39:51,040
[gavel banging]
864
00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:01,399
Thank you. You're welcome.
865
00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:05,403
[laughs softly]
866
00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:24,552
Oh, Dr. Martin, it's 2:00 in the
morning, and I heard a noise.
867
00:40:24,596 --> 00:40:27,990
No one else is here, you know,
and I was just about to leave.
868
00:40:28,034 --> 00:40:29,905
You gonna be okay?
869
00:40:29,949 --> 00:40:32,908
I'm going to be perfect.
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