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Welcome to "Last Week Tonight"!
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I'm John Oliver, thank you so much for
joining us. It has been a busy week.
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The UN Climate Conference kicked off,
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Ron DeSantis debated Gavin Newsom
in a real clash of the who gives a shit,
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and there was a notable death
in the world
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that one TikTok account treated with
the dignity that it truly deserved.
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Breaking news: former U.S. Secretary of
State Henry Kissinger has passed away
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at the age of 100.
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Kissinger served as America's top
diplomat and national security adviser
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during the Nixon and Ford
administrations.
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That's right, Henry Kissinger died at
the ripe old age of not soon enough.
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And if you live in America, you might
view him as a controversial figure.
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But if you live in Chile, Argentina,
Vietnam, Cambodia, East Timor,
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Bangladesh,
or anywhere else on Earth,
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you know that's maybe the most
obscene understatement of all time.
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Which is not to say
that some weren't upset.
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The New York Yankees, for instance,
tweeted, among other lies,
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"He will be deeply missed."
Which, honestly, tracks.
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If there's one baseball team that could
appreciate a man behind
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a widely hated, morally corrupt empire
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that used its considerable financial
resources to destroy its enemies
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by any means necessary,
it is the Yankees.
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But rather than continue to celebrate
that man going to Hell,
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we are going to turn to Congress,
which on Friday, did this.
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{\an8}The George Santos saga
is officially over.
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{\an8}Within hours of his House colleagues
voting to make him
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{\an8}just the sixth member
in history expelled from office,
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{\an8}crews were changing the locks
on his Washington office doors.
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His final remark, reportedly:
"Why would I want to stay here?"
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"To hell with this place."
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Yeah, they finally kicked
George Santos out.
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And I say "finally" because it was
their third attempt at doing that.
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Apparently, it takes three tries
to get rid of him,
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a sort of reverse Beetlejuice
situation, if you will.
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What probably pushed it over the top
this time, though, was the release
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two weeks ago of a scathing
Ethics Committee report
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containing accusations about,
among other things,
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his use of campaign funds.
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{\an8}The probe found he used some
of the money for Botox treatments,
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{\an8}luxury shopping sprees at Hermes
and Ferragamo,
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trips to Atlantic City and the Hamptons,
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and a subscription
to the adult website OnlyFans.
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Okay. Look, we've all been trying to
shake our heads and say things like,
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"That's not befitting of the office."
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Because we know that is not allowed.
You're not supposed to do that.
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But I have to say, if you're gonna do
something you're not supposed to do,
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that is the way to fucking do it.
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Looking good, going out, and
getting off on gig economy porn?
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How am I supposed to be mad he spent
campaign funds vibing out on diva shit?
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And while Santos denies all that,
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the spending was just the tip
of the iceberg here.
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The report also included a full copy
of the opposition report
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his own campaign commissioned
on him,
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titled "The George Santos
Vulnerability Report,"
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which was 141 pages long,
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featuring sections like, "Florida
Driver's License Suspension,"
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"Unverified Degrees," and
"Securities Fraud Ponzi Scheme".
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Even the cover was damning,
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as this was the actual photo
they used, which is spectacular.
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It's a photo that says, "Opening
for Sebastian Maniscalco,"
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or, "I Faked My Own Death for
Insurance Money: A TED Talk."
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And Santos did not take
the vote against him lightly.
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Ahead of it, he gave a press
conference that was upstaged
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by a garbage truck appearing
in the background.
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Which is perfectly on the nose.
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He also vented his frustration
at what he saw as a double standard.
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I mean, within the ranks of the
United States Congress,
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there's felons galore, there's people
with all sorts of sheisty backgrounds,
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and all of a sudden George Santos
is the Mary Magdalene
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of United States Congress.
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We're all gonna stone this motherfucker
because it's just politically expedient.
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Right? Now, no pun intended,
I was born on Mary Magdalene's day,
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which is July 22nd, which,
I find it to be absolutely ironic.
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Now, obviously, every word
of that is a jewel
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and it's impossible
to pick the sparkliest.
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I mean, first, it's good
that he said "no pun intended"
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because no pun detected.
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Second, that's not irony.
It's a coincidence.
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And finally, not to be a total
astrology girlie here,
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but it makes so much sense
that he's a Cancer/Leo cusp.
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Prone to fits of emotion, loves
to be the center of attention,
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and recently hard-launched a husband.
That shit is textbook.
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The truth is, this man never
belonged in Congress.
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He belongs on Bravo.
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Just think of everything he packed
in during his brief time
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on the national stage.
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Like when he implied that his young
niece had been kidnapped
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from a playground in Queens,
possibly in retaliation
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for his public comments about China,
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or that nine/11 claimed my mother's life
even though records show
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she wasn't even in New York
at the time.
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That kind of messiness
isn't just "friends-of" behavior,
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it's full-on housewife.
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Santos was unmatched at giving us
A+ headlines
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like "George Santos Has Meltdown
While Holding Mystery Baby."
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And by the way, when Santos
was asked if that baby was his,
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his answer was, "Not yet."
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Which is the single funniest possible
answer, outside of maybe,
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"What baby?"
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I'm just saying, Santos clearly
didn't deliver for his constituents,
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but he delivered hard
for the rest of us.
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And I don't want him
to be in my government.
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And I don't want to sit next
to him on an airplane.
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But I definitely want him
in Andy Cohen's menagerie
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of damaged human beings.
Call this man now, Cohen.
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And pay him what he is worth.
And now, this.
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And Now: People On TV Talk About
AI The Only Way They Know How.
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Natalie, I don't know if you remember
the "Terminator" movies.
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Where computers and the machines
started acting like humans.
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That's what I think of when
I think of artificial intelligence.
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{\an8}As someone whose favorite movie
is "T2: Judgement Day",
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{\an8}am concerned about these machines
becoming self-aware and taking over.
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{\an8}I laugh, but I'm also quite serious
about it.
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- There was a movie about this.
- Which one?
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"Terminator".
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{\an8}It makes you have a vision
of SkyNet and "Terminator," right?
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{\an8}All of us have seen "Terminator".
We know how this ends.
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{\an8}Never watched "Terminator."
We know how this ends, come on.
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I've seen this before.
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{\an8}This is "Terminator" all over again.
I've seen this movie before.
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- You're scared of AI.
- Yes. You seen "Terminator"?
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Whether it's "The Terminator" or not,
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I want to find out how
we can make money on this.
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{\an8}Is AI really steps away from being
a "Terminator" of humanity's future?
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Plus, Kyra Sedgwick is live to talk
about celebrating 35 years of marriage
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with Kevin Bacon.
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Moving on. Our main story
tonight concerns organs,
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what I personally think
should be inside of pinatas.
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Children have to learn that
their actions have consequences.
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Specifically, we're going to talk
about organ and body donation.
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Organ transplants are a topic
that's been covered on TV
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in many profound ways,
including in this moving clip.
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Dr. Casper to the ER.
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That is what is known in the business
as excellent fucking television.
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We've actually shown you
that clip before on this show,
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during a story about, and this is true,
Police Interrogations.
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And we will absolutely show it
to you again,
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whenever the fuck we feel like it.
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But the point is, organ donation
is extremely important,
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which is why there are so many
ads encouraging you to do it,
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as well as TV commercials
and PSAs,
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perhaps none more brilliant
than this one from Australia.
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Have you thought about maybe
becoming an organ donor?
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Is this really the best time
to bring this up?
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We get it. You know, no one wants
to talk about death.
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But, you know, not all of us are
going to the eternal paradise,
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and your organs could save
the lives of up to six people.
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Seven people.
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Not to mention, how your bones
and soft tissue and ligaments
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could change the lives of many others.
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And corneas.
You'll help blind people see!
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What a miracle!
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Obviously, I would do it.
I'm Jesus.
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Right, of course Jesus would do it.
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Though, I will say, Jesus having
none of his vital organs
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might complicate his resurrection
three days later.
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Easter probably wouldn't be as big
if it celebrated the day
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Jesus rose from the dead and then
instantly died again from renal failure.
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But that ad is right!
Organ donation saves lives!
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And here in the U.S.,
it is widely popular.
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Surveys have consistently found 90%
or more of Americans indicating
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their support for organ donation.
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And around half of respondents to a
recent survey had signed up as donors.
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And a lot of lives get saved
this way.
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Last year, there were over
42,000 organ transplants
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performed here in the U.S.
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But the system that handles our
donations has considerable flaws,
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which sometimes leak into public
view through stories like this one,
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about a donor heart that was being
sent for processing
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to make lifesaving tissue grafts.
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{\an8}Southwest Airlines flight
had to turn around
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{\an8}because someone left a human heart
on board.
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{\an8}This happened over the weekend.
This was a donor heart, course,
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{\an8}headed to a clinic in Seattle
from Sacramento.
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{\an8}Someone apparently forgot to unload
the heart when it reached Seattle.
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{\an8}My understanding is that the pilot
made an announcement
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{\an8}when they turned around that
they were returning
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{\an8}because there was a heart
that had been left on board.
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That is awful!
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First: "I left your heart on a Southwest
flight" 100% sounds like
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a Lana Del Rey lyric.
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But also, it's worth mentioning,
a few years ago,
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Southwest celebrated their 50th
anniversary with a campaign featuring
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this graphic and the words
"50 years. One Heart".
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Which probably should've been
updated to read
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"50 years. One heart that we totally
forgot about and almost sent to Dallas".
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And while we thankfully had over
42,000 transplants last year,
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the list of those waiting for one
is over 100,000 people long,
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with 17 people dying each day
waiting for a transplant,
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making it pretty frustrating that
experts say many thousands more
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could be done each year if our organ-
transplant system functioned smoothly.
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It's frankly no wonder people are
desperately trying to circumvent
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the system by posting Craigslist ads,
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putting up social media posts,
or even doing this.
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Marc needs a kidney.
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Now, because of this giant billboard,
that vital message is reaching
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hundreds of thousands of people
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as they pass through
the crossroads of the world.
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It's true, a man in need of a kidney
resorted to putting up
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a giant billboard in Times Square.
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And that is clearly not what
billboards should be used for.
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They should be used to advertise
Broadway musicals,
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sportswear, or a weird bird that
someone wants to win a contest
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on the other side of the world
for some reason.
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Now, the good news is, that ad
helped that man to find
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a living kidney donor.
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But, again,
many aren't that fortunate.
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And the issue here isn't just
with organs,
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because in a completely separate
process, each year,
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around 20,000 Americans generously
donate their whole bodies to science.
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But that system has its own issues
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because the definition of what
constitutes "science"
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can be pretty loose. Your body could
end up educating medical students.
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But it could also end up somewhere
like the Museum of Osteology
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in Oklahoma City.
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This is our human exhibit.
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So when somebody agrees to donate
their body to science,
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they could end up here.
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It's possible they could end up here.
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Do you think, though, that people,
when they think about a donation
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of their body to science,
that this is an example of that?
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I would automatically think
it would be, yes.
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Are you sure about that?
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When most people think about
donating their body to science,
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they picture it in a reputable
educational institution,
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not in some roadside bone collection,
face down, ass up,
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arranged in a formation best described
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as "Cirque du Soleil performer's
favorite sex position".
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The fact is, our donated organs,
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while being incredibly important
to saving lives,
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are not getting into enough people.
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And our donated bodies, incredibly
important to advancing knowledge,
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aren't always treated with the care
they deserve.
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So, tonight, let's talk about
our donation systems for both,
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and let's start with the system
for organs.
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Organ transplants are fairly recent.
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The first successful operation
only took place in 1954.
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For a little perspective,
that was the year Oprah was born.
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Organ transplantation
is only one Oprah old!
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From there, transplantation slowly
became more common,
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and in 1984, Congress passed the
National Organ Transplant Act
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that bans the sale of human organs,
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and actually opened up access by
establishing a national registry
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for organ matching,
to be run by a private nonprofit
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under government contract.
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And the organization that's held it
ever since is called UNOS,
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or the United Network
for Organ Sharing.
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It's a national body that sits atop
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56 regional organ procurement
organizations,
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and we'll get into them in a little bit.
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But UNOS also manages the
nationwide transplant waiting list.
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And in this documentary
from 20 years ago,
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the head of UNOS explained the
logistics that go into deciding
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who gets which organ.
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{\an8}Many people think that the way
the waiting list works
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{\an8}is that once a person is on the list,
that they just simply stay on the list
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until they move up to the top
of the list and receive an organ.
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But it does not work that way.
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It's a very dynamic and fluid situation,
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in which each person is evaluated
based on medical criteria,
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matched with information that's placed
in the computer
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about each organ donor.
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Right. While you might assume that
you just get on the list,
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wait your turn, an organ for you
arrives at the hospital,
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and a dog eats it off the floor while
everyone nearby kind of rolls with it,
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the actual matching process changes
constantly based on which organs
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are available and which patients
most need them,
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and in theory,
that sounds amazing.
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But there are multiple problems.
For starters,
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UNOS's computer systems leave
a lot to be desired.
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A government report in 2021 cited,
aged software,
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periodic system failures,
mistakes in programming,
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and overreliance on manual input
of data.
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Investigators even cited multiple
system outages,
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with one from two years ago
lasting about three hours,
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which isn't good.
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Every minute matters when it comes
to the viability of an organ,
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and as anyone who's seen "Killers
of the Flower Moon" can tell you,
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three hours
can be an incredibly long time.
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But it's not just technical errors.
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There are also serious issues
with some of the ways
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UNOS has ranked patients in terms
of need, most notably,
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when it comes to kidneys.
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For years, it allowed transplant centers
to employ something called
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"a Black race coefficient". Which
is just as bad as it sounds.
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Very basically, hospitals miscalculated
Black patients' kidney function,
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based on racist junk science that said
Black bodies have higher muscle mass.
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That made Black patients appear
healthier than they were,
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pushing them down the kidney
transplant list,
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and it's one reason why,
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even though Black people are four times
as likely to develop kidney failure
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as white people, they are much less
likely to receive a transplant.
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And while UNOS's transplant network
did approve the elimination
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of race-based calculations,
they only did that last year,
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and have given hospitals
until January of next year
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to update their waiting lists.
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Which feels like too long,
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considering that the correct time to fix
that problem is fucking ages ago.
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And then there's the fact that rich
people can essentially cut the line.
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The way they can do this is by
registering themselves
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at multiple transplant hospitals
in multiple states,
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with the plan to fly somewhere
on a moment's notice
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if one becomes available.
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It's called multiple listing, and it's
how, in 2009, Steve Jobs was able
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to get a liver in a matter of weeks
in Memphis
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despite living in California,
where there was a long waitlist.
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But there's an obvious reason that
policy doesn't work for people
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who aren't billionaire CEOs.
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Have you ever been told that you can
be on multiple lists in centers
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all over the country?
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No. That would be a great idea.
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{\an8}We explained the costs.
Could you afford to fly to those places?
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No. I don't think so.
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Of course. Booking a last-minute
ticket can be really expensive,
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even on a cheap airline like the one
whose logo reminds you
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that they once lost track
of a human heart
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on one of their Greyhound buses
of the sky.
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And there's one final issue
with UNOS,
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which is that it's supposed
to also coordinate shipping
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of organs between regions,
for instance, a kidney that matches
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a rare blood type may need
to be flown to another state.
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But even there, it relies on
a primitive system of phone calls
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and paper manifests, with no GPS
or other electronic tracking required.
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And that, combined with fuckups
by airlines and local organizations,
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helps explain why nearly 170 organs
over a recent five-year period
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could not be transplanted due
to transportation problems.
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Kidneys have shown up late,
damaged,
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or, in one case, in a package
that was "squished,"
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with apparent tire marks on it.
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And no doctor should have
to use a flattened organ.
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They're performing a transplant,
not making kidney piccata.
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One director of a transplant center
sums up the current situation like this.
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{\an8}When you order a toothbrush
on Amazon,
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{\an8}they can tell you minute to minute
where that toothbrush is.
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{\an8}Well, that's not been possible
for organ transplantation,
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{\an8}even though we think that what we do
is considerably more important
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{\an8}than ordering a toothbrush.
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Look, we should obviously be able
to track organs as easily
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as we track Amazon packages.
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And do you realize how shitty your
organization has to be for me to say,
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"Be more like Amazon"?
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Things have to be pretty dicey for me
to look into a camera
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and say with my actual mouth,
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"Please be more like
the soulless megacorporation"
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"created by Evil Mr. Clean here".
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So, to put it mildly, UNOS could
and should be doing a lot better.
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And I will say that it has
new leadership now
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and that they are pushing for GPS
tracking of all organs, which is good.
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But these changes
have been too long coming.
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And UNOS is not the only player here.
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Remember, there are also the 56 organ
procurement organizations, or OPOs.
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Each operates exclusively
in its region
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and is tasked with working
with the families of donors,
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facilitating the recovery of organs,
and coordinating their delivery
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to the transplant hospital.
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The job they do is very difficult.
By one estimate,
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"less than two% of U.S. deaths occur
under circumstances"
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"conducive to donation."
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Typically, that entails someone being
declared brain dead, on a ventilator,
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in a hospital, with oxygen
and blood flowing to their organs.
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And OPOs have to approach families
for consent at a time
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when they're often in shock
about what's just happened.
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That is challenging.
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One OPO even put together
a training video for its workers,
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where they staged conversations
with actors to show what issues
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might come up in the heat
of that discussion.
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And it is an absolute
rollercoaster ride.
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Hi! Good morning.
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You know what?
I already know who you are,
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and I know what you want.
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And I'm going to tell you
like I told the fucking doctor.
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You're not touching him.
We're not donating shit!
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If you just give me an opportunity...
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Stop! Do you see this here?
Are you fucking serious right now?
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I've been sitting here for over a week!
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Over a week I've been sitting here
waiting for someone to come talk to me.
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But now that they want something,
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now everybody wants to come talk
to me now, right? And what?
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They send, what, this character
in to do what? Convince me?
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You're not touching my husband.
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Rest in peace,
both to her fictitious husband,
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but also to that scenery, which just got
chewed up by that acting powerhouse.
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We watch a lot of training videos
for this show, and believe me,
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that woman is the Meryl Streep
of the genre.
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Just to catch you up on this, the man
declared brain-dead is named Jorge,
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and they've only been married
for two months.
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The guy sitting next to her
is Jorge's brother.
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He doesn't want her making
decisions for Jorge.
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And he initially doesn't want
Jorge's organs donated either.
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But then he remembers that when
they were children, their mom,
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who was working two jobs
after their dad left,
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details that we do not need
but that we get anyway,
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would give them each their
own allowance,
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but Jorge would give his
to his brother.
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Because he's just that giving.
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And eventually, they both realize Jorge
would want his organs to be donated.
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All I'm saying is,
there is a rich backstory here.
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Now, is it the most gripping medical
drama that I've ever seen?
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No, as I've said, that would be this
one, but it is still unexpectedly good.
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Now, a lot of OPOs try and get ahead
of conversations like that
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by encouraging more people
in their area to sign up
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as organ donors,
sometimes through advertising,
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and sometimes even using mascots.
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Gift of Life Michigan has
Hartley T. Hart.
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Donate Life Wisconsin has
Dottie the Donor Dot.
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Donate Life Arizona
has Reggie the Donor Cactus,
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who, from that photo,
seems to be high on glue.
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And Lifeshare Oklahoma has Derrick
the Donor,
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who is an oil rig, because,
according to the organization,
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"Oil is a precious resource just like
organs are a precious resource."
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Except no, they are not
just like each other, Oklahoma!
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One of those should not go into
your body! Besides,
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this is just a bad mascot.
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No one is going to look at that
and think,
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"I should sign up to donate
my organs."
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They'll think, "Oh no!
That Teletubby is suffocating!"
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And because each OPO is responsible
for procuring the organs in its area,
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how well it performs
has enormous consequences.
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And yet, until recently,
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that performance has been determined
by the OPOs themselves,
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since they've been evaluated
on self-reported data,
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which is a real problem.
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Because OPOs can fail to retrieve
organs for many reasons,
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from exhaustion of overworked
staffers to lack of resources.
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Employees have admitted to gaming
the system to cover up those failures.
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Just listen to this former OPO exec.
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I used to work at an OPO.
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And we reported false numbers
to make it appear
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we were doing better than we were.
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Imagine there are ten people who die,
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and they all have healthy organs
that can save someone's life.
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We might later falsely report that only
four or five of those people
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had healthy enough organs
for donation
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and make it look like we were more
successful in our recovery effort
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than we were. In fact, we might
not even visit all ten people.
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That is not good. And look,
I'm not saying
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that you can never lie about death.
But it's got to be a good lie.
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Like when Robert Pattinson went
on the "Today" show and said
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"the first time I went to see
the circus, somebody died."
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"One of the clowns died.
His little car exploded."
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"The joke car exploded on him."
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And then later admitted, "I actually
made the whole thing up."
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The world is a better place because
of that fake clown's death.
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But this is the kind of lie
that could actually kill people.
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The government's estimated that
if OPOs increased their performance,
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"approximately 5,600 more organs
per year could be transplanted,"
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which is vital because, again,
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around 6,000 Americans die each
year waiting for an organ transplant.
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But the problem is, despite
the stakes being this high,
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OPOs have very little incentive
to do better.
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The government has "never decertified
an OPO for poor performance".
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And poor performance
can have serious consequences
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for people like L.A. poet Tonya Ingram,
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who desperately needed a kidney.
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She actually appeared before Congress
two years ago to explain
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how her region's OPO, OneLegacy,
had failed her.
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{\an8}The organ procurement organization
that serves Los Angeles,
458
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:47,035
{\an8}where I live, is failing according
to the federal government.
459
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,079
{\an8}In fact, it's one of the worst
in the country.
460
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,675
{\an8}One analysis showed it only recovered
31% of potential organ donors.
461
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:58,116
{\an8}Sometimes when
you're in this diagnosis,
462
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,195
{\an8}it kind of feels like this is it,
463
00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:04,475
{\an8}and I will just be waiting forever
until I'm no longer here.
464
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:08,475
That is awful. And to make it worse,
the then-CEO of OneLegacy,
465
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,955
Tom Mone, wrote her an email,
defending the job he'd done,
466
00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:13,995
and suggesting
that the "number one thing"
467
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:17,515
she could do to "improve your chances
and your community's chances
468
00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:20,715
of a life-saving transplant
is to register as a donor
469
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:24,396
and help people in your ethnic group,
in particular,
470
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,995
to choose to donate life."
471
00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:29,916
And if you are ever typing the phrase
"your ethnic group" into an email,
472
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,799
Clippy should just appear and say,
"Stop what you're doing right now!"
473
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:40,035
I have to say, OneLegacy says they
are "deeply regretful for the email,"
474
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,275
which they want you to know
475
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,316
was a "personal communication
from Tom Mone".
476
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,156
Very much throwing him under
the bus like a kidney in a box.
477
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,836
But at this point, it should be clear:
478
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,955
our system of managing donated organs
is nowhere near where it should be.
479
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:56,876
But depressingly, it's actually
a paragon of care and thoughtfulness
480
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,715
compared to what happens when
someone donates their body to science.
481
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,396
Which brings us
to whole-body donation.
482
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,230
That is a choice thousands
of Americans make every year,
483
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:06,675
either for themselves
484
00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:08,796
or when a loved one's organs
aren't suitable for donation.
485
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,356
And it is absolutely essential to both
scientific research
486
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,596
and medical training,
as this med-school video will attest.
487
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,475
The beauty and complexity of the
human body can really only be taught
488
00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:24,116
through the process of studying
an anatomical donor.
489
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,675
Donations provide a tactile sense
of learning and really highlight
490
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,076
the variation amongst human beings
in a way
491
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,435
that virtual reality just can't yet.
492
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:37,316
I think that this program allows people
to practice
493
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,680
and to learn in a way that will
really help their future patients.
494
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,316
Exactly. Donations to science
can help doctors better understand
495
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,636
the human body.
496
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,396
For example, if I donated my body,
maybe they could figure out
497
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,116
how a man can age 47 years
in a single decade.
498
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,519
It doesn't seem like it should be
biologically possible.
499
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,035
I'm probably going to be fine.
I'm going to live forever.
500
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,916
And in theory, that is great.
501
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,675
Unfortunately, in practice, you might
not end up in front of medical students.
502
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,920
Instead, you could end up here.
503
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:12,796
{\an8}On a bright Sunday morning
in Portland earlier this month.
504
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,836
This is somebody that donated
their body to science.
505
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,559
A few dozen people spent the day
inside at this downtown hotel.
506
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,316
They paid up to 500 dollars a seat
in the ballroom
507
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,195
to sit up close to the mysterious
figure draped in a white sheet.
508
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:31,679
I heard about it through a friend,
decided to broaden my experiences.
509
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:36,195
The sheet comes off, exposing
the corpse of an 86-year-old man.
510
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,916
This in-person, pay-per-view event puts
regular people, paying customers,
511
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,596
within an arm's length of something
usually reserved
512
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,475
for doctors and scientists.
513
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:51,515
Okay, clearly, a Marriott hotel autopsy
is stretching the definition of science.
514
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:52,715
And not to get sidetracked,
515
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:56,235
but did that guy say he heard
about it through a friend?
516
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,636
Because there is only one way
that conversation should go.
517
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,435
Your friend says, "Hey, wanna go to
a live autopsy?"
518
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:03,636
To which you say,
"I'm sorry, what?"
519
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,715
To which he says,
"Yeah, they're dissecting a body!"
520
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:07,316
To which you say,
"What kind of animal?"
521
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,755
To which he says,
"No, it's a human man!"
522
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:11,876
To which you respond, "Why would
anyone go all the way"
523
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,475
to a medical school to watch..."
To which he interrupts with:
524
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:18,796
"It's in the ballroom of a Marriott
in downtown Portland."
525
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,235
"But we have to be out by 3:00,
there's a quinceanera."
526
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,396
To which you reply, "Wait, what now?"
527
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,515
To which he says, "Yeah,
and it's only $500 to get in."
528
00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:27,916
To which your only response should be,
529
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,475
"I'll pay you $500 right now to never
speak to me ever again."
530
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:34,076
"This friendship is over."
531
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,640
The explanation offered by the man
who hosted that event wasn't great.
532
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,035
The body buyer, Death-Science-dot-org,
is run by Jeremy Ciliberto,
533
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,396
who has no professional credentials.
534
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,675
It was Ciliberto who brought
the Portland body show to life
535
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:53,916
and had planned one for Seattle
as well on Halloween day.
536
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,116
Can you guarantee they had knowledge
537
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800
that he knew that his body
would be used in this way?
538
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:05,720
I can guarantee that he knew his body
would be used for medical education.
539
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,195
Bullshit! And I've got to say, I'm not
surprised that that long-lost member
540
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:15,195
of My Chemical Romance doesn't
have any medical credentials.
541
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:19,235
But that still doesn't explain why he's
somehow providing medical education.
542
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,596
And yet, that is totally legal.
543
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,995
Because bodies donated to science
are bought and sold
544
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:26,316
in a virtually unregulated market.
545
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,356
There is no federal law,
546
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,290
and no government agency monitors
what happens to cadavers
547
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,515
pledged for use in medical research
and education.
548
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,396
There are also no government
mandated nonprofits here.
549
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,836
Instead, there are for-profit
companies known as "body brokers",
550
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,275
or, as they prefer to be called,
"non-transplant tissue banks",
551
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:47,235
who very literally sell bodies
off for parts.
552
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:51,035
One of the few rules that even applies
to them is a statute adopted
553
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:55,035
in 47 states called the Uniform
Anatomical Gift Act
554
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:58,116
that requires donors must
provide informed consent,
555
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,076
with those agreements typically
stipulating that the body will be used
556
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,995
for "research and education".
557
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,076
But "medical research and education"
is not clearly defined.
558
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,475
And, as you just saw,
that can technically mean
559
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:12,396
that your body might be carved up
in a Marriott for the entertainment
560
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,720
of a grown man in a fedora.
561
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,316
And even organizations that do supply
bodies to medical schools,
562
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,076
like Illinois' Anatomical
Gift Association,
563
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,876
can conduct themselves poorly.
564
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,195
It was accused by one employee of
mishandling and mistreating bodies
565
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,116
leaving some rotting,
or being "eaten by rats".
566
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,995
Which is clearly horrific.
567
00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:34,579
Rats should not be hungrily
devouring human bodies,
568
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,556
they should be hungrily
devouring each other's bodies.
569
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,960
I think we've made our position
on that pretty clear.
570
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,195
And while the AGA said
that it strongly disagreed
571
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:46,636
with the employee's allegations
of mistreatment,
572
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,235
that employee also says that
he was punished for speaking out,
573
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,440
and in the grossest possible way.
574
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,675
Mr. Wheatley says that when
he approached his supervisors
575
00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:00,675
with his concerns about procedures,
three dismembered heads
576
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,836
from donated bodies
were left at his desk.
577
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,400
My boss walked by. I asked him
why the heads were at my desk,
578
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,356
and he told me they needed
to get back with their bodies
579
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,876
so we can send them to cremation.
580
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,759
And I said, "I understand that.
Why are they at my desk?"
581
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:17,556
And he told me,
582
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,359
"Well, I don't know, Dale. There's
a lot of strange things happening."
583
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,519
Holy shit!
584
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,836
"I don't know, Dale. There's a lot
of strange things happening?"
585
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,515
If you are bold enough to leave
severed heads at someone's desk,
586
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,156
why be passive-aggressive?
587
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,796
Either you're a direct communicator
or you are not!
588
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,799
Pick a fucking lane!
589
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,316
And body brokers will sometimes make
attractive pitches to obtain bodies.
590
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Struggling families might be told that
they'll receive a cremated portion
591
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,116
of their loved one, free of charge.
592
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,275
Other times, families might be told that
their loved one's body will be used
593
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,475
to research the exact condition
that they died from.
594
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:57,559
Which is a lovely idea,
but it's just not always the case.
595
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,515
Take what happened
with Cody Saunders,
596
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:01,796
who died at age 24
from a rare disease,
597
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,380
and I'll let his mother explain
what happened next.
598
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,316
We couldn't afford a burial for Cody.
599
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,599
{\an8}Cody's mom, Angie, says someone told
her about a company that could help.
600
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,356
{\an8}Restore Life USA offered to handle
all of the expenses in exchange
601
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,995
{\an8}for using some of Cody's body
for medical research.
602
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,440
All I remember is they were supposed
to take skin cells
603
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,836
so they could figure out,
maybe they could figure out that,
604
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,839
what caused this disease.
605
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,275
You can see why that would be
so appealing for her.
606
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:39,755
And it's what makes it so upsetting
that, a month after Cody died,
607
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:44,836
a reporter from Reuters bought her
son's cervical spine for 300 dollars,
608
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,316
plus shipping, from that company.
609
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,195
And if you're thinking, "How the fuck
was that allowed to happen?"
610
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:54,916
Well, in almost every state, it is legal
to sell the human remains of adults.
611
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,156
There are multiple websites
where you can buy human bones.
612
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,755
Skulls Unlimited, which is actually
the company that owns
613
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:02,955
that bone museum you saw earlier,
614
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,955
sells skeletons that it guarantees
are antiques,
615
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:09,955
decades-old human bones once
used in places like medical schools.
616
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:13,596
But under most states' laws,
they don't have to be.
617
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,836
And it is a good business,
by the way.
618
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,796
They will sell you a human skull
for $2,200, or a rib for $40.
619
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,235
You can even buy human teeth
for $35 a pop.
620
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:25,796
Which is a pretty great deal.
621
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,275
And the reason I know that is,
we bought two dozen of them!
622
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:33,400
Except, of course, we didn't!
Relax, we're not fucking monsters!
623
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,235
But we could have done it
if we wanted to,
624
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:39,836
and I am very disappointed
by how many people in this room
625
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,160
seemed genuinely worried that we
might've done that. Unbelievable!
626
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,035
And you might be thinking, "Well, this
whole story has horrified me so much,
627
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,675
I'm keeping everything inside me
and I'm taking it to my grave."
628
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,995
But it's really important to reiterate
just how meaningful organ donation,
629
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:01,916
in particular, can be. Take what
happened to Alyssa Sandeen.
630
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,955
Who would have died
without a heart transplant.
631
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:06,076
And ten years ago,
one became available,
632
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,035
after this 20-year-old, Kate Leekley,
was tragically killed by a drunk driver.
633
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:12,876
That transplant saved Alyssa's life.
634
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,836
And a few years later,
Alyssa met Kate's family,
635
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,116
and the result was incredibly moving.
636
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,796
Alyssa decided to meet Kate's family.
637
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,356
Over the weekend,
they made the drive to Illinois.
638
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,876
When they got there, Kate's parents
and sister were waiting.
639
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Finally, two families bonded
by a special gift met face to face.
640
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:35,920
It's so nice to meet you.
641
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,356
Alyssa came with her own gift,
a stuffed teddy bear
642
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,799
for the mother to keep with a sound.
643
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:47,799
So, they made a recording
of my heartbeat with a stethoscope,
644
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,556
and we decided to give that to her
so she can keep
645
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,140
her daughter's heart with her.
646
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,599
That's your daughter's heartbeat.
647
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:01,160
Just to hear her heartbeat...
648
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,559
I can't explain it.
649
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,115
That is amazing. And let us all agree
that Alyssa absolutely nailed that gift.
650
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,435
That is about as thoughtful
as gift-giving gets.
651
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:17,316
It is certainly better than
what I would have done,
652
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,396
desperately look at Hallmark cards
653
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,916
and then accidentally buy one
that says "Happy Graduation".
654
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,515
The point is, we all know
donating organs saves lives.
655
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:31,035
And giving your body to science
can save and enhance them, too.
656
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:34,035
But what we currently do
with those gifts is broken.
657
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,995
Far too many people are dying waiting
for organs that could be coming,
658
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,796
but aren't. And one of them,
sadly, is Tonya Ingram,
659
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,119
who died last year, never having gotten
the transplant that she was waiting for.
660
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,595
So, what can we do?
Well, for organs,
661
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,676
we need to raise the standards
of how the system operates.
662
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,236
And there's actually some good news
on that front from,
663
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,756
and I cannot believe I'm about
to say this, the Trump administration.
664
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,396
It actually put a rule in place
that provides an objective,
665
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,236
rather than self-reported, metric for
measuring the performance of OPOs.
666
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,916
And starting in 2026, OPOs
who fall below a certain standard
667
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,435
will lose their contract.
668
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,716
It is one of exactly two good things
that we got
669
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,075
from the Trump administration,
alongside this spectacular gay rabbit.
670
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:19,995
Now, that new rule is not perfect.
671
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:23,756
Some experts worry that the standards
might punish good OPOs
672
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,796
by not properly adjusting for things
that aren't in their control,
673
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,635
while also allowing struggling
OPOs an opportunity
674
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,716
to game the system.
675
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,916
One particular worry is the
so-called "pancreas exception,"
676
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,756
which lets OPOs claim credit
for pancreases
677
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,035
that aren't transplanted
but are recovered for research.
678
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,595
And it's not a great sign that one
underperforming OPO in Ohio,
679
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:46,676
Lifebanc, went from recovering
one pancreas for research
680
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,756
the year before the new standards
were released,
681
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,836
to 151 so far this year.
682
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,796
Also, for what it's worth,
"The Pancreas Exception" sounds like
683
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,796
a direct-to-DVD thriller
from 2003 starring Nicholas Cage.
684
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,916
As for UNOS, this past September,
President Biden signed a bill
685
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that could split up its contract
and allow others,
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including for-profit companies,
to compete for parts of the services
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that it now provides. Will that improve
the efficiency of our national system?
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Let's hope so,
but the jury is currently out.
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As for whole bodies donated
for research,
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there is a law awaiting a vote
in Congress right now
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that would ensure donated bodies
are not unknowingly contributed
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to a for-profit industry, which seems
like a pretty good idea.
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But even as we are waiting for
these long overdue improvements,
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let me be very clear about something
here. I am an organ donor.
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When I die and someone is in need
of these sub-par organs,
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they can have at 'em!
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And nothing that we've researched
or covered tonight,
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however unpleasant it's been, has
changed my mind about that decision.
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And while personally, I wouldn't mind
being a skeleton doing a backflip
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in a museum, I know that my family
might have some objections to that.
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So, if you want to,
and you haven't already,
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you should sign up to donate
your organs.
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{\an8}You can do that
at Register-Me-dot-org.
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{\an8}If want to look into being
a living kidney donor,
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{\an8}you can learn more
at Organ-Donor-dot-gov.
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{\an8}And whether you want to donate
your organs, or your whole body,
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you should probably have
a conversation with your family now.
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And I know it's not easy
to talk to them about this,
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or indeed, anything.
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But it is really important.
Because remember,
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lives are hanging in the balance here.
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These donations
are immensely generous gifts.
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And we all deserve a system
that is worthy of that generosity,
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one that operates with efficiency,
saves as many lives as possible,
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and that, at the very least,
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ensures every heart makes
its airline connection,
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and nobody's body unexpectedly
winds up sliced and diced
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in a two-star business hotel.
It's just not too much to ask.
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That is our show,
thank you so much for watching,
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we will see you next week.
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And now, I will leave you with
a few more glorious seconds
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of the most intense training video
ever produced.
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{\an8}I know that Jorge was found down,
9-1-1 was called.
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{\an8}Who was
the first person that was notified?
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{\an8}Yeah, she was contacted first.
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You think she had any nerve
to call me about anything?
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I called you! It's my fault that you
didn't answer your goddamn phone?
728
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,475
Seriously. Yeah,
it's my fault, right? Bullshit.
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All right, stop.
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It's getting a little heavy in here.
You doing okay?
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