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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:55,450 --> 00:00:57,280 They called it Trinity. 2 00:01:19,770 --> 00:01:23,250 On the morning of July 16th, 1945, 3 00:01:23,740 --> 00:01:27,020 in a remote desert near Los Alamos, New Mexico, 4 00:01:27,710 --> 00:01:30,220 the atomic age is born. 5 00:01:31,310 --> 00:01:36,080 Some scientists weep openly, others are triumphant. 6 00:01:36,510 --> 00:01:40,340 Secretary of War, Henry Stimson, receives a cryptic message. 7 00:01:40,570 --> 00:01:43,450 It reads: "Child is born. 8 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:49,000 Its cries could be heard at my farm, and the light in his eyes seen at yours." 9 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:55,250 The atomic bomb is the culmination of the Manhattan Project, 10 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,910 one of the largest, most secretive and most expensive undertakings by any government in history. 11 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Employing more than 200,000 people it was formed by some of the greatest scientists of the age. 12 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,280 I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita; 13 00:02:17,250 --> 00:02:23,820 Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that 14 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,600 he should do his duty and, to impress him, 15 00:02:30,220 --> 00:02:34,740 takes on his multi-armed form and says: 16 00:02:35,570 --> 00:02:39,770 "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." 17 00:02:42,770 --> 00:02:47,020 Three weeks later, a squadron of bombers leaves for Hiroshima. 18 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:52,000 Upon departure, a pilot named Major Sweeney describes seeing 19 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,680 the most beautiful sunrise he has ever witnessed - 20 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,020 a great, big, red ball of fire coming out of the ocean to the east. 21 00:02:59,540 --> 00:03:02,910 He would later describe the atomic bomb in similar terms. 22 00:03:03,220 --> 00:03:07,340 It looked like a boiling up with every color of the rainbow. 23 00:03:09,450 --> 00:03:14,220 As dark clouds formed overhead, sticky black rain began to fall. 24 00:03:15,650 --> 00:03:19,940 It was later understood that the rain itself was radioactive. 25 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,540 Three days after Hiroshima, another atomic bomb was dropped. 26 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,170 This, on Nagasaki, by Major Sweeney himself. 27 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,020 "At 10:58 in the morning of August 9th, 28 00:03:32,140 --> 00:03:35,650 the bomb was exploded above the city and in the towering mushroom, 29 00:03:35,650 --> 00:03:37,650 Japan could read its doom. 30 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,480 This was more than a routine bombing, it was the funeral pyre of an aggressor nation." 31 00:03:47,510 --> 00:03:51,000 "Now back to This is Your Life, rev. Kiyoshi Tanimoto 32 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:54,510 in Hiroshima, August 6, 1945. 33 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:07,510 Time is standing still as our Earth shakes to an explosion never before equaled. 34 00:04:07,650 --> 00:04:13,080 Now, you've never met him, you've never seen him, but he's here tonight to clasp your hand in friendship. 35 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:16,220 Cpt. Robert Lewis, USAF, 36 00:04:16,220 --> 00:04:19,770 who along with Paul Tibbets piloted the plane from which the first 37 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,620 atomic power was dropped over Hiroshima. 38 00:04:31,220 --> 00:04:34,420 Cpt. Lewis, come in here close, and would you tell us, sir, 39 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:37,850 of your experience on August 6, 1945?" 40 00:04:39,940 --> 00:04:43,570 "As I've said before, Mr. Edwards, I wrote down later: 41 00:04:44,540 --> 00:04:47,110 'My god, what have we done?'" 42 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,170 For many around the world, the attacks were more than justified. 43 00:04:55,740 --> 00:05:00,910 They were comeuppance for the brutal atrocities committed by imperial Japan throughout Asia. 44 00:05:01,850 --> 00:05:07,280 Yet, as in Japan's own wars, civilians were forced to pay the largest price. 45 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,880 In America, the iconography of the new weapon would take on bizarre and ghoulish proportions. 46 00:05:23,540 --> 00:05:25,740 Admiral Spike Blandy and his wife 47 00:05:26,020 --> 00:05:29,280 celebrated the detonation of a thermonuclear device 48 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:32,820 at Bikini Atoll, with an atomic bomb cake. 49 00:05:33,310 --> 00:05:38,740 A high school in Richland, Washington adopted the a-bomb as their official mascot. 50 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:46,480 Church artists carved images of the Enola Gay and other WWII bombers in stained glass windows. 51 00:05:50,620 --> 00:05:54,850 If the euphoria has faded over time, the rationale remains the same: 52 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:58,680 the nuclear option was the lesser evil. 53 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,680 Though the attacks killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, 54 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:04,910 the alternative was far worse. 55 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,850 A ground invasion would have taken millions of lives, 56 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,220 both Japanese and American. 57 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,420 This view is no longer tenable. 58 00:06:15,710 --> 00:06:23,200 The US's own Strategic Bombing Survey of 1946 states unequivocally that: 59 00:06:32,910 --> 00:06:39,540 The National Archives in Washington chart Japanese peace overtures from as early as 1943, 60 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,600 and a cable sent on may 5th, 1945 by the German ambassador in Tokyo 61 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,850 and intercepted by the US reveals that the Japanese were desperate 62 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:54,540 to sue for peace, including capitulation even if the terms were hard. 63 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,420 "We're going to destroy Japan's armies, Japan's navy, 64 00:07:00,570 --> 00:07:06,480 Japan's air forces, Japan's war factories. Japan's whole power to wage war." 65 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,250 Far from being frightened of Japanese belligerence, 66 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,340 US Secretary of War, Henry Stimson, told President Truman 67 00:07:14,340 --> 00:07:19,800 he was fearful the Japanese would surrender before the new weapon could "show its strength". 68 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,340 In his diary, he frankly explained a different reason for the assault. 69 00:07:25,740 --> 00:07:30,820 The bombs were dropped, in Stimson's words: "to persuade Russia to play ball". 70 00:07:34,850 --> 00:07:41,880 Together, Hiroshima and Nagasaki constitute not only the most violent act of warfare in history, 71 00:07:42,050 --> 00:07:46,880 but also the most violent example of the psychological operation. 72 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,620 Terrorism, in the broadest definition, is any act that 73 00:08:13,020 --> 00:08:15,650 targets civilians rather than military, 74 00:08:16,110 --> 00:08:19,080 although some terrorist acts do target military, but 75 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,280 generally it's conceded to be targeting of civilians and non-combatants 76 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:30,250 with the purpose of defeating a society. And there's a great deal of state violence 77 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,340 against people that are considered enemies of the state, that could be considered, 78 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:37,710 and should be considered terrorism. 79 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,540 However, the states define terrorism as acts of 80 00:08:41,770 --> 00:08:45,080 either asymmetrical warfare where a less armed 81 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,480 and capable group is trying to have some influence, might even be self-defensive, 82 00:08:49,650 --> 00:08:54,850 in using terrorist tactics in order to dissuade. 83 00:08:55,140 --> 00:08:59,800 I think the human community avoids violence as much as possible 84 00:09:00,170 --> 00:09:03,680 because of our memory of violence, and 85 00:09:03,850 --> 00:09:09,020 when you chose violence, you're not only harming the person you're excusing(?) as the enemy, you're harming yourself. 86 00:09:09,310 --> 00:09:11,850 And I think the human community knows that lesson, so 87 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:15,800 people will put up with a great deal of abuse before they go to violence. 88 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,650 Many things are called terrorism, 89 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,740 and many terrorist acts are exempted. However, 90 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,770 if people get to a point of despair or hopelessness, 91 00:09:27,310 --> 00:09:32,680 and they feel there is no other way out and all other options have been tried, then a small segment of them 92 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:39,140 will win by arguing for violence, and for a period they'll get sanctuary and sanction and support 93 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:43,770 out of the larger group for the violence. But, once you restore justice 94 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,850 and restore hope, then those people 95 00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:49,540 are no longer given that sanction and support. 96 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,250 That's really the only way out of the cycle. 97 00:09:53,250 --> 00:09:57,400 To respond to terrorism with counter-terrorism and violence, in the end, 98 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,570 only creates more victims and more anger. 99 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,680 So, terrorism is one of these concepts, one of these terms, that's obviously 100 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:10,650 very important at the moment to elites in the West. 101 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,170 Now that, with the Cold War being over, 102 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:24,250 it's pretty much consensus that this is gonna be the thing that it's gonna replace it, the war on terror, global war on terror, blah blah blah. 103 00:10:24,570 --> 00:10:29,200 So, you have to define terrorism, obviously, very carefully. 104 00:10:29,450 --> 00:10:33,910 It has to be something that only they do and that we don't do 105 00:10:33,970 --> 00:10:36,450 and that takes some pretty fancy footwork. 106 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,620 The way the term is generally used is something like Shock and Awe. 107 00:10:54,170 --> 00:11:00,310 When it's carried out by non-state, low-tech groups. 108 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,940 So, in other words, elites in the West would prefer 109 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,370 that terrorism be something done generally by non-state groups, 110 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,310 though it can be backed by "terror" states, it can be backed by enemy states, 111 00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:20,170 but generally they want to avoid 112 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:24,200 the idea of terrorism being attached to states, 113 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:30,480 even in the Axis of Evil, I think as a whole they would prefer that these evil states sponsor terrorism. 114 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:36,020 The notion that states can inherently be terroristic and use terroristic 115 00:11:36,340 --> 00:11:40,800 methods is kind of dangerous, 'cause then it might come back to haunt us. 116 00:11:41,310 --> 00:11:44,370 So, generally non-state, generally low-tech. 117 00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:49,280 You know, and blowing yourself up in the marketplace and so on, is pretty low-tech too. 118 00:11:50,020 --> 00:11:54,020 I said it was a form of Shock and Awe. What I meant by that is that 119 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:01,510 when we use the word terrorism, we generally refer to an act of extreme violence, 120 00:12:02,540 --> 00:12:08,400 which is meant to shock. It's not as if it shocks accidentally. It's meant to shock. 121 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,710 It's meant to create awe, and of course, fear. Terror, extreme fear, 122 00:12:13,820 --> 00:12:16,510 and therefore to intimidate populations. 123 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:22,600 "The bombers took off from the Hornet in the early morning of the 18th of April, 1942. 124 00:12:30,110 --> 00:12:35,600 They were about to fly into history. But, first they set course for the Japanese mainland. 125 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:44,880 The bombing of Tokyo dealt a huge psychological blow to the Japanese, 126 00:12:45,050 --> 00:12:50,170 and the man who had masterminded and led the raid, was the then-colonel Jimmy Doolittle." 127 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:01,370 In 1954, WWII general Jimmy Doolittle sent a secret report to president Eisenhower. 128 00:13:02,250 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaking of the Cold War, he stated: 129 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:32,110 It would not be until the Vietnam War, that the American people 130 00:13:32,110 --> 00:13:37,370 would become acquainted with the repugnant philosophy being promoted behind the scenes. 131 00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:43,280 In the immediate post-WWII era, most of the public would be shielded 132 00:13:43,340 --> 00:13:48,850 from the carnage committed in their name, by a compliant and compromised news media. 133 00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:06,400 Yet hidden behind the facade of consumerism and nuclear family values, 134 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,710 was a relentless struggle of the issues of race, sex and class. 135 00:14:13,770 --> 00:14:17,570 It would not only erupt in the homeland, but on a global scale, 136 00:14:17,570 --> 00:14:22,110 leading to the deaths of millions of people at the hands of an increasingly powerful 137 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:26,340 and increasingly paranoid security apparatus. 138 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,910 "In Latin America there are various regimes which at the moment are abusing human rights: 139 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:08,020 political murder, torture, deportations, imprisonment without a trial, 140 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,050 using the techniques they may have learned in this establishment." 141 00:15:12,250 --> 00:15:14,710 "Uh… You may be right. 142 00:15:14,770 --> 00:15:20,000 If you can say that the skills which we've taught here have been applied, I can't deny that." 143 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:23,250 Throughout the Cold War, the School of the Americas 144 00:15:23,370 --> 00:15:27,620 functioned as the primary training ground for the teaching of terrorism. 145 00:15:28,370 --> 00:15:33,220 Based in Fort Benning, Georgia, the SOA, which is now known as WHINSEC, 146 00:15:33,310 --> 00:15:37,510 has trained more than 60,000 Latin American soldiers and policemen 147 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:40,370 since its inception in 1946. 148 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:46,970 Among its graduates are notorious dictators Manuel Noriega of Panama, 149 00:15:47,820 --> 00:15:50,710 Leopoldo Galtieri of Argentina 150 00:15:50,850 --> 00:15:54,080 and Hugo Banzer Suarez of Bolivia. 151 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,800 It has a new name, but is still known as the School of the Americas. 152 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:02,200 There are numerous graduates of the School of the Americas, numerous, 153 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:08,080 who have been involved in many of the worst acts of terrorism 154 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:11,600 in the western hemisphere in the past 50 years or so. 155 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:17,050 Classes on bomb making are called “How to defuse a bomb” 156 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:19,740 and it's the same with torture and assassination. 157 00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:24,800 You have to know how to assassinate to avoid being assassinated yourself. Those are the covers. 158 00:16:25,370 --> 00:16:28,710 "Torture techniques taught, from rape 159 00:16:29,310 --> 00:16:31,540 to disrobing (?), 160 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,940 to torture with, with pointed objects, 161 00:16:36,940 --> 00:16:41,540 breaking of extremities, poking eyes out, branding." 162 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,480 Most of the courses come around, revolve around what they call counter-insurgency warfare. 163 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Who are the insurgents? 164 00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:51,420 We have to ask that question. They are the poor. 165 00:16:51,820 --> 00:16:55,570 They are the people in Latin America who call for reform. 166 00:16:55,570 --> 00:16:58,770 They are the landless peasants who are hungry. 167 00:16:58,910 --> 00:17:04,970 They are health-care workers, human rights advocates, labor organizers – they become the insurgents! 168 00:17:04,970 --> 00:17:07,800 They are seen as el enemigo, "the enemy". 169 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,940 And they are those who become the targets 170 00:17:10,940 --> 00:17:14,510 of those who learn their lessons at the School of the Americas. 171 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:26,570 A lesser known training facility for both foreign and domestic military and intelligence personnel is Harvey Point. 172 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,570 Described in official reports as an annex to the CIA training base at Camp Peary, Virginia. 173 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:58,570 First used to train anti-Castro Cubans for the Bay of Pigs invasion in 1960, 174 00:17:58,770 --> 00:18:03,250 the NY Times later reported that Harvey Point has trained 18,000 175 00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:07,080 foreign intelligence operatives from 50 different countries. 176 00:18:09,570 --> 00:18:14,450 Among the individuals trained at the facility there've been: El Salvador’s death squad chief 177 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,570 Roberto D’Aubuisson, 178 00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:19,650 Egypt's general intelligence directorate, 179 00:18:20,050 --> 00:18:22,310 Colombian counter-insurgency personnel, 180 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,850 and (?), who would later join Osama Bin Laden’s forces 181 00:18:27,050 --> 00:18:29,680 fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. 182 00:18:30,940 --> 00:18:35,280 According to former CIA officer Robert Baer, whose story was depicted 183 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,480 in the Hollywood film Syriana, the two weeks of trying at Point Harvey 184 00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:42,200 was, for all purposes: 185 00:18:44,370 --> 00:18:50,740 Among the techniques taught to new recruits is how to successfully install and remotely detonate a car bomb. 186 00:18:57,110 --> 00:19:01,770 Just north of the training facility, is that of the mercenary group Blackwater, 187 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,080 now known as Academi. 188 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:35,310 These are children's drawings from El Salvador in the 1980s. 189 00:19:48,370 --> 00:19:55,140 The drawings are disturbingly similar to those of Palestinian children in the Israeli occupied territories. 190 00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:10,970 In 2005, a number of media reports suggested that the Pentagon was debating the “Salvador Option” for Iraq. 191 00:20:13,140 --> 00:20:18,050 According to the NY Times magazine, the template for Iraq today is El Salvador, 192 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,400 where a right-wing government, backed by the US, 193 00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:26,340 fought a leftist insurgency in a 12 year war, beginning in 1980. 194 00:20:28,650 --> 00:20:33,650 The cost was high. More than 70,000 people were killed, most of them civilians, 195 00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:36,880 in a country with a population of just 6 million. 196 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:41,480 Most of the killing and torturing was done by the army 197 00:20:41,710 --> 00:20:44,540 and the right-wing death squads affiliated with it. 198 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,370 Whole villages were targeted by the armed forces and their inhabitants massacred. 199 00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:56,370 As part of president Reagan's policy of supporting anti-communist forces, 200 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,600 hundreds of millions of dollars in US aid was funneled to the Salvadorian army. 201 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,540 And a team of 55 special forces advisers, led for several years by James Steele, 202 00:21:07,710 --> 00:21:12,940 trained front-line battalions that were accused of significant human rights abuses. 203 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:17,600 Using the doctrine of plausible deniability, 204 00:21:17,850 --> 00:21:22,820 few Americans were directly involved in the actual killing of Salvadorian civilians. 205 00:21:23,570 --> 00:21:26,880 This was not the case, however, in Vietnam. 206 00:21:27,310 --> 00:21:33,140 Operation Phoenix – this was a brainchild of a William Colby who was, at that time, 207 00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:39,880 a senior CIA official in the US occupied region of South Vietnam, 208 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,710 later became director of the CIA. What they would do is, 209 00:21:43,940 --> 00:21:50,820 the CIA would go out and use their contacts in various Vietnamese regions 210 00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:54,000 and say: "OK, who were the Viet Cong?" 211 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:00,880 which was a derogatory term of that era. 212 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,800 "Who are the Viet Cong in your neighborhood?" 213 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:08,250 and "Here, let me fill in this form of what you have to say." 214 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,940 The forms go back to a data center. The data gets entered into the primitive computers as they existed 215 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:19,310 in 1968, 1969, 1970 – this was way before PCs – 216 00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:23,820 get cranked through the computer, and out comes a list of people's names 217 00:22:24,020 --> 00:22:28,880 and their cousins’ names, their wives’ names, their kids’ names. 218 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:32,770 Well, is the kid over here, in some other region, 219 00:22:32,770 --> 00:22:36,000 where he's getting turned in by somebody else? 220 00:22:36,340 --> 00:22:42,510 Bingo! So the father and the kid, two regions, both getting turned in as alleged Viet Cong. 221 00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:46,340 Now what do we do? Well, we do two things. 222 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,540 Sometimes, they go and capture them and try to turn them into double agents. 223 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,280 More often what they did is go and try to identify them, and kill them. 224 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,340 And by the Agency's own accounting, at least 20,000 people were killed in this fashion. 225 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,280 "And it got to be where, it was like someone would say: "Ok", you know, 226 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:11,250 "you come stay on my farm and you can go hunting everyday for free and I'll give you all the ammo you want, 227 00:23:11,570 --> 00:23:17,600 and you can hunt and there's no limit, you can all go out together and just hunt", you know? It was like a hunting trip. 228 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:21,910 And the more people we killed, the happier our officers were, you know? 229 00:23:21,910 --> 00:23:25,680 It got to be like a game, like the object was to see who could kill the most people 230 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:30,940 and the different ways you could prove how many people you killed would be like cutting off their ears, 231 00:23:31,050 --> 00:23:35,020 now, if you brought back someone's ears, you know? Pretty likely, you had to kill them to get them. 232 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,770 And then people would, you know, whoever had the most ears, 233 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,710 they would get the most beers. And you trade your ears for beers." 234 00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:45,110 That's a style of warfare that has, 235 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,940 in new forms, been picked up in Central America, in the US 236 00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:55,800 intervention in Nicaragua and El Salvador. In Nicaragua 237 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,400 it wasn’t a direct intervention, it didn’t send in the Marines. 238 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,820 What they did, is they hired a proxy force called the Contras. 239 00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:07,680 In El Salvador, again, they didn’t send in the Marines, what they did 240 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:13,450 was sponsor a political faction 241 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,940 in that country's government and in that country's military, 242 00:24:17,310 --> 00:24:24,200 equipped them with these tools, basically the same framework of collecting rumors about people, 243 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:30,620 compiling the rumors, cross-referencing the rumors and then using that to support death squads. 244 00:24:31,450 --> 00:24:36,650 Today, you got the same situation in Afghanistan. You got the same situation, 245 00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:41,910 was a major part of this so-called surge in Iraq. 246 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,740 In Latin America, the victims became known as Desaparecidos. 247 00:26:03,050 --> 00:26:08,080 The first Desaparecidos, which means people who disappeared, 248 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:13,140 that had been documented, began in Guatemala in 1950s 249 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:19,000 where by the state mobilized its resources to kidnap people, 250 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,800 usually the middle of the day, in the streets, in schools, workplace, 251 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:31,570 who were believed to have communist or socialist ideology 252 00:26:31,570 --> 00:26:35,770 or just to sympathize with, you know, organizations 253 00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:37,940 that were perceived to be communist. 254 00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:29,370 And I think it was in the mid ‘80s that I coined this phrase 'The Third World War’ 255 00:27:29,370 --> 00:27:32,650 because in my research I realized that we were not attacking 256 00:27:32,770 --> 00:27:37,850 the Soviet Union and the CI's activities, we were attacking people in the third world, 257 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:46,000 and I'm gonna just quickly, in the interest of time, just give you a little sense of what that means, this ‘Third World War’. 258 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,880 Basically, it's the third, I believe, in terms of loss of life and human destruction, 259 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,170 the third bloodiest war in all of history. 260 00:27:55,310 --> 00:27:59,450 They undertake and run operations in every corner of the globe. 261 00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:03,740 They also undertook the license of operating just 262 00:28:03,740 --> 00:28:08,450 totally above and beyond US laws, they had a license, if you will, ‘to kill’, 263 00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:12,370 but also they took that to a license to smuggle drugs, 264 00:28:12,510 --> 00:28:16,740 a license to do all kinds of things to other people 265 00:28:16,740 --> 00:28:20,940 in other societies in violation of international law, our law 266 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,940 and every principle of nations working together for a healthier and more peaceful world. 267 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:31,050 Meanwhile, again, they battled to convert the US legal system 268 00:28:31,050 --> 00:28:35,220 in such a way that it would give them control of our society. 269 00:28:35,370 --> 00:28:41,110 Now, we have massive documentation of what they call "The Secret wars of the CIA", 270 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:47,000 we don’t have to guess or speculate, we had the Church Committee investigate them in 1975, 271 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,110 gave us our first really in-depth powerful look inside this structure. Senator Church said, 272 00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:55,540 in the 14 years before he did his investigation, 273 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:01,570 that he'd found they had run 900 major operations and 3,000 minor operations. 274 00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:06,940 And if you extrapolate that over the whole period of the 40-odd years that we've had the CIA, 275 00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:12,770 you come up with 3,000 major operations and over 10,000 minor operations. 276 00:29:12,850 --> 00:29:14,970 Every one of them illegal, 277 00:29:15,140 --> 00:29:19,450 every one of them disruptive of the lives and societies of other peoples, 278 00:29:19,450 --> 00:29:25,400 and many of them bloody and gory beyond comprehension almost. 279 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,050 They have played a key role in helping other governments pick their police intelligence agencies, including, 280 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:43,420 we've learned, the Korean CIA, Urugayan national police. 281 00:29:43,770 --> 00:29:45,280 Can you tell us about this?" 282 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,080 "No." 283 00:29:47,850 --> 00:29:50,770 If he appeared in a Hollywood thriller, he would be called 284 00:29:50,770 --> 00:29:54,250 a serial killer with sadistic personality disorder. 285 00:29:54,970 --> 00:29:58,310 As it happened, he worked for the State Department. 286 00:29:58,910 --> 00:30:04,510 Dan Mitrione has become the poster child for American torture during the Cold War. 287 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,570 Head of the Orwellian-named Office of Public Safety 288 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,020 in Montevideo, Urugay, 289 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,200 he was so enthusiastic about torture that he gave live demonstrations. 290 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,110 His M.O. was to kidnap homeless people off the streets 291 00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:26,970 and demonstrate torture techniques to a rapt audience of military officials. 292 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:45,000 Reportedly, four homeless men died as a result of Mitrione’s demonstrations. 293 00:30:46,570 --> 00:30:50,570 Former Urugayan chief of police intelligence, Alejandro Otero, 294 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:55,740 explained that Mitrione had instituted torture as a matter of routine. 295 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,850 Among Mitrione’s recommendations were the adoption of new psychological techniques, 296 00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:05,050 such as playing a tape in next room of women and children screaming, 297 00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:09,510 while informing the prisoner that the voices belong to those of his family. 298 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:13,570 In some cases, no recording was necessary. 299 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:19,220 An investigation by the Urugayan Senate concluded that during the US-backed reign of terror, 300 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,650 pregnant women were subjected to various brutalities and inhumane treatment, 301 00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:28,850 while certain women were imprisoned with their very young infants and subjected to the same treatment. 302 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:33,000 Similar patterns emerged across the globe. 303 00:31:33,370 --> 00:31:37,880 In Guatemala, a roman-catholic nun named Dianna Ortiz 304 00:31:38,050 --> 00:31:42,450 was raped and tortured in presence of an American consultant. 305 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,370 "For 24 hours she was tortured and gang-raped. 306 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,480 During her ordeal, she identified the leader of the gang 307 00:31:52,650 --> 00:31:55,540 as a fellow citizen of the US." 308 00:31:57,340 --> 00:32:03,220 "I came out a totally different person, 309 00:32:05,540 --> 00:32:10,510 but also with new eyes and 310 00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:18,740 more attune to the hurting, the brokenness, the oppression, 311 00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:22,310 the deceit of my government. 312 00:32:22,570 --> 00:32:26,880 I’ve heard people say that what happened in Abu Ghraib 313 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,970 is an isolated incident 314 00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:36,680 and I have to just shake my head and say, you know, are we on the same planet? 315 00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:41,510 Aren’t you aware of our history? 316 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:46,910 Isn’t history taught in the classroom about 317 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,140 the role of the US government in human rights violations? 318 00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:02,000 Just as they had done with the tactic of assassination, 319 00:33:02,170 --> 00:33:07,570 the CIA was good enough to provide a manual for their proxy forces on the use of torture. 320 00:33:09,020 --> 00:33:15,050 Widely known as KUBARK, the title is actually a Cold War cryptonym for the CIA itself. 321 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,910 One passage states: "Deprivation of stimuli induces regression 322 00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:24,570 by depriving the subject’s mind of contact with the outer world 323 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:27,450 and thus forcing it in upon itself. 324 00:33:28,450 --> 00:33:32,910 As the interrogate slips back from maturity toward a more infantile state 325 00:33:32,910 --> 00:33:37,200 his learned or structured personality traits fall away." 326 00:33:50,970 --> 00:33:54,740 Dan Mitrione was eventually kidnapped and killed by (?-*) forces. 327 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,820 Incredibly, he was not tortured in turn. 328 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,200 After his death, Mitrione was declared an American hero. 329 00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:09,740 A benefit for his wife included performances by Frank Sinatra and Jerry Lewis. 330 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,650 Decades later, the television show 24 331 00:34:14,650 --> 00:34:17,200 would immortalize one of Mitrione’s innovations, 332 00:34:17,370 --> 00:34:21,910 pretending that a man’s loved ones are being tortured in an adjacent room. 333 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:27,880 "I know who you are. 334 00:34:28,170 --> 00:34:32,310 I know everything that you’ve done. Where is the bomb? 335 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:39,370 WHERE’S THE BOMB? 336 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,820 You are wasting my time. 337 00:34:47,110 --> 00:34:51,110 Those men will kill your family if you don’t tell me where the bomb is now. 338 00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:07,220 I despise you for making me do this 339 00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:10,680 Once again, the torturer would be cast as a hero, 340 00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:14,910 but in this case, new cover up of his activities was necessary. 341 00:35:15,650 --> 00:35:18,620 Jack Bauer was a hero precisely because 342 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:24,540 he was willing to engage in the most despicable act of which a human being is capable. 343 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:31,540 In 2012, the propaganda of torture would reach its peak. 344 00:35:31,740 --> 00:35:34,620 "I’m not your friend. I’m not gonna help you. 345 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,020 I’m gonna break you. 346 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,570 Any questions?" 347 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:45,940 Zero Dark Thirty, a collaborative project between the CIA 348 00:35:45,940 --> 00:35:48,770 and Academy Award winning filmmaker Kathryn Bigelow, 349 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,020 falsely indicated that torture had been responsible for locating Osama Bin Laden. 350 00:35:54,940 --> 00:35:58,770 Upon its release, even Acting CIA Director Michael Morell 351 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,600 was forced to admit that: 352 00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:20,280 Torture is something that I never thought that I would be very much interested in or involved in. 353 00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:24,740 It’s strange credulity that we should be discussing whether torture should be 354 00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:28,110 allowed or encouraged by our government. 355 00:36:31,110 --> 00:36:34,650 About 6-7 years ago, a radio producer 356 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,910 called me up, said: “Mr. McGovern, we're gonna have a 357 00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:40,540 little colloquium on torture, 20 minutes, 358 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,680 10 for you – we know where you stand on torture - and 10 for any advocates of torture, 359 00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:48,880 for the other side.” 360 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,850 And I said, the other side? He said: “Oh yea, there’s so many things that torture’s, you know…” 361 00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:58,450 I said: There's another side? (laughter). 362 00:36:58,770 --> 00:37:03,820 I wanted to say: “Well, bring them on!” you know, but that’s already been used, they didn’t want to use that. 363 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:07,020 So, when I got off the phone I said to myself: “Ray, 364 00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:13,820 I guess, get over your shot, man, some people really think it’s OK, 365 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,800 so take some, take 10 minutes out” – he was gonna call back in 10 minutes – 366 00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:21,680 “figure out what you’re going to say about torture.” 367 00:37:22,110 --> 00:37:24,170 It gives the country bad name. 368 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:28,510 It endangers our own troops. 369 00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:33,170 Brutalizes people. You know, all you need to do 370 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,570 is talk to people coming back from Abu Ghraib, as I have, 371 00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:44,800 see that not only were those tortured brutalized, 372 00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:50,000 but the people who were ordered or permitted or encouraged to do the torture, also brutalized. 373 00:37:54,620 --> 00:38:00,510 It doesn’t work! Torture doesn’t work. 374 00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:04,480 What was really, really telling, was that 375 00:38:04,850 --> 00:38:08,450 when George Bush decided to make his big speech 376 00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:12,080 on September 6, 2006, 377 00:38:12,340 --> 00:38:15,680 advertising the merits of what he called 378 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,310 an alternative set of procedures, 379 00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:21,570 read: harsh interrogation techniques, okay? 380 00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:25,600 On that very day, the head of army intelligence, 381 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:29,450 Admiral John- I’m sorry, General John Kimmons 382 00:38:29,650 --> 00:38:32,710 decided he’d have his own press conference in the Pentagon 383 00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:37,310 and he released what was the new army manual on torture. OK? 384 00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:39,710 You know what he said? This is a direct quote: 385 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,140 “No good intelligence has ever come from harsh interrogation techniques. 386 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,800 History has proved this 387 00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:52,020 and the empirical experience of the last 5 years, 388 00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:58,450 hard years, have also proved this." 389 00:38:59,540 --> 00:39:04,820 If torture does not produce reliable intelligence, as all credible experts insist, 390 00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:09,800 the question remains as to why governments bother to use the tactic at all? 391 00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:15,850 One possible answer is that torture is a highly effective method of eliciting 392 00:39:15,850 --> 00:39:19,570 fake confessions that serve to justify state policy. 393 00:39:20,570 --> 00:39:25,940 Omar Suleiman, who served as Egypt’s torturer-in-chief for US rendition programs 394 00:39:26,140 --> 00:39:30,200 managed to extract a confession by Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi 395 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,050 that Iraq was linked to Al-Qaeda operatives 396 00:39:33,310 --> 00:39:37,800 and that they were training in the deployment of chemical and biological weapons. 397 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,480 “And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.” 398 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,880 “No question, we have said that Saddam Hussein possesses biological and chemical weapons.” 399 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,910 "We know where they are, they’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." 400 00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:55,940 Later, a child soldier named Omar Khadr, originally hailing from Canada, 401 00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:59,970 would be convicted by so called “evidence” obtained through torture. 402 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,680 The events have a disturbing historical parallel. 403 00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:37,200 The show-trials of the Soviet Union portrayed hapless former party officials 404 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,020 admitting to counter-revolutionary activities. 405 00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:43,170 Confessions obtained through torture. 406 00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:51,650 Slansky was charged with titoism, spying and sabotage. 407 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,450 His confession was fiction, drafted by Soviet advisers. 408 00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:34,570 Another answer to the question of why torture is practiced is that it, is itself a form of terrorism. 409 00:41:34,850 --> 00:41:37,820 There have been societies in the past, of course, 410 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,080 and still some today, which practice torture regularly 411 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,710 and don’t particularly hide it, it’s just part of how the state 412 00:41:44,910 --> 00:41:49,540 carries out its functions. And there are also non-state societies that have used it. 413 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,800 It has various purposes, one of them is to intimidate, usually, and 414 00:41:55,340 --> 00:42:00,280 to give the message to people: “This is who we are, this is what we can do to you.” 415 00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:23,140 And the narrative of freedom, you know, the US not only treasures freedom for its own people, 416 00:42:23,310 --> 00:42:29,680 but is also the liberator of other people. So it goes to Afghanistan to liberate Afghan women and 417 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,650 the population in general from repressive autocratic fundamentalists. 418 00:42:35,650 --> 00:42:41,480 And it goes to Iraq because this tyrant is there, and so on - so this is a liberation narrative. 419 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,600 It’s a narrative of benevolence, 420 00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:49,310 and it’s very dangerous, therefore, to have too much of this overt massacre and torture happening. 421 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:54,510 And yet, there’s always been, along with this ‘liberator narrative’, 422 00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:59,000 a kind of secondary narrative, a little bit, just a little bit in the wings. 423 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,880 A little bit repressed, but very much there. 424 00:43:04,220 --> 00:43:10,310 And that’s the old one, that war makers insist on, 425 00:43:10,310 --> 00:43:18,050 it’s part of their power, and it is the same one that I mentioned before: “This is who we are and this is what we can do to you.” 426 00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:20,480 What I see happening now is a shift, 427 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,400 I see that the narrative that was in the background, (?) before, 428 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,110 is now moving to the foreground. 429 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,340 So yea, we knew that they were training torturers in the School of the Americas and that 430 00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:37,820 the US was implicated in all this stuff, but they were always trying to say: “No, no. We’re one step removed. 431 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,000 These guys are out of control. 432 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,140 We wouldn’t directly get our American hands dirty. We don’t do the wet work.” 433 00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:52,600 I think it’s an important shift and I think it shows the cracks 434 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,910 that are developing in the imperium here. 435 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,000 That we don’t have legitimate institutions, 436 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,850 we don’t have the love and affection, the trust, 437 00:44:03,020 --> 00:44:08,050 we don’t have the credibility, we don’t have any of those things that most governments aspire to have. 438 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,080 Therefore, we must rule through naked aggression and by inducing fear in you. 439 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,680 And that is what the US is starting to resort to, now that’s very tricky, 440 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,310 because it’s pretty well known 441 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,170 that these acts of, for example torture, 442 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,850 when you torture people and you drop bombs on them and you do ‘shock and awe’ on them, 443 00:44:29,850 --> 00:44:36,020 and this is even recognized, by the way, in the ‘shock and awe’ documents, military documents – they recognize this: 444 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,800 You can induce obedience and awe and fear and so, 445 00:44:42,110 --> 00:44:47,740 but you could also induce resistance, disgust, revulsion, 446 00:44:47,740 --> 00:44:52,650 anger and uprising in people. This is the danger you always take, 447 00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:56,620 this is the danger that all tyrants court 448 00:44:56,940 --> 00:45:02,600 when they try to rule through naked fear. It’s very fragile – the power is very fragile. 449 00:45:02,910 --> 00:45:08,050 As it turns out, WWII General Jimmy Doolittle’s memo to President Eisenhower, 450 00:45:08,170 --> 00:45:16,020 claiming that the US would have to abandon “traditional American notions of fair play” was based more on myth than reality. 451 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,200 Notably absent from most mainstream histories of the US, 452 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,340 though not military manuals, is the concept of “Total War”. 453 00:45:24,910 --> 00:45:29,220 According to this strategy, attacks against civilians and their infrastructure 454 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:33,970 are not only fair game, they are a vital component of the war effort as a whole. 455 00:45:37,310 --> 00:45:44,110 In the US, Total War was employed against indigenous populations with genocidal results. 456 00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:50,910 Similar techniques would also be adopted against Filipinos in the late 19th century. 457 00:45:53,020 --> 00:46:00,600 During the 20th century, new technologies would permit a new and monstrous efficiency in the targeting of civilians. 458 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,340 "After 5 years of killing, the gears of the Vietnam death machine 459 00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:08,450 were grinding more slowly in the months before the invasion of Cambodia." 460 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,800 "Almost all restraint is off. For the first time, the Vietnamese are seeing the holocaust of conventional war. 461 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,880 The kind that leveled much of Korea and destroyed dozens of cities in WWII." 462 00:46:23,050 --> 00:46:29,480 "Women. Children. Babies. Some are dead, some are not dead. 463 00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:35,220 "By evening", government spokesmen are saying, "another grand victory has been won in Quang Tri province. 464 00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:40,480 The situation is once again stabilized." But there will be more fighting and more words. 465 00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:44,310 Words spoken by generals, journalists, politicians. 466 00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:48,800 But here on Route 1, it’s difficult to imagine what those words can be. 467 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,480 There’s nothing left to say about this war. 468 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,800 There’s just nothing left to say. 469 00:46:56,740 --> 00:46:59,370 Bob Simon, CBS news, Route 1. 470 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,620 In the wake of Vietnam, American policy planners were faced with a problem. 471 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,310 It was called “The Vietnam Syndrome” 472 00:47:09,310 --> 00:47:15,510 and related to a wide-spread disgust by American citizens over the mass slaughter committed in their name. 473 00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:22,080 Now, the problem for Reagan was twofold. 474 00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:26,280 We’ve had just come out of Vietnam War 475 00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:32,110 and public opinion in the US was overwhelmingly opposed 476 00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:36,680 to US military interventions abroad, 477 00:47:36,850 --> 00:47:40,370 mainly because of the high loss of lives 478 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,000 and the hundreds of thousands of wounded 479 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,450 American soldiers and the traumatic experiences they had, 480 00:47:47,770 --> 00:47:52,540 what some commentators called “The Vietnam Syndrome” 481 00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:56,370 that Washington should refrain 482 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:04,050 from military operations outside of the territorial US. 483 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,370 In order to reverse “The Vietnam Syndrome”, a new model developed. 484 00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:12,620 It involved an economic, rather than overt, conscription program, 485 00:48:12,770 --> 00:48:16,940 as well as intense media censorship of the casualties of war. 486 00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:24,710 The public would be taught that modern warfare was a clinical exercise, mostly devoid of civilian casualties, 487 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,450 even as the opposite became true. 488 00:48:50,250 --> 00:48:56,680 Much of the misconception regarding civilian casualties, owes to highly deceptive reportage by the media. 489 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,820 What we really have is a military-industrial-media complex in the US, 490 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,080 and to say that is that there’s been a concentration of media. 491 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,600 When Project Censored started 32 years ago, 492 00:49:09,850 --> 00:49:14,740 there were 50 major media corporations in the US, actually a little bit more, probably closer to 60. 493 00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:19,420 And in that time, we’ve come down now to 10 major companies. 494 00:49:19,420 --> 00:49:22,740 You know, you’ve got the big television companies 495 00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:26,740 with the 24 hour news: MSNBC and Fox and CNN, 496 00:49:27,250 --> 00:49:33,110 and that’s where most people are getting their news. So, that’s very limited. 497 00:49:33,450 --> 00:49:38,480 And then you’ve got the NY Times, The Washington Post, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, are the big papers. 498 00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:41,850 It’s very concentrated and very narrow. 499 00:49:41,850 --> 00:49:41,880 We have 10 major companies now that dominate the news in the US It’s very concentrated and very narrow. 500 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,800 We have 10 major companies now that dominate the news in the US 501 00:49:46,940 --> 00:49:51,310 and are the suppliers of the ideas and the understandings that 502 00:49:51,310 --> 00:49:53,680 the American people have access to. 503 00:49:53,770 --> 00:49:57,940 The board directors of the 10 big media groups could 504 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,570 fit in a medium sized classroom, we’re only talking about a 120 people or so, 505 00:50:02,970 --> 00:50:05,110 and they all pretty much know each other. 506 00:50:05,110 --> 00:50:09,050 They, in turn, sit on the boards of directors of like 20% of the corporate 1,000. 507 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,140 So, they’re on big corporation boards in addition to being on media boards. 508 00:50:13,420 --> 00:50:16,510 What we’ve seen since 9/11 is a real penetration 509 00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:21,450 from the military-industrial companies, the military companies, the top 10, 510 00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:27,110 on the boards of directors of media firms. You’ve got this, really in-depth penetration between 511 00:50:27,110 --> 00:50:32,400 the military companies, the ones that are so profitable since 9/11, I mean, we’re seeing 512 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,880 300% increase in profits for Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman values their stock, 513 00:50:37,110 --> 00:50:42,710 that occurred, and literally capturing billions of dollars of 514 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,510 money because of war, 515 00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:50,420 and then having people write - sitting on the boards of the big media companies. 516 00:50:50,420 --> 00:50:54,820 "It is a 2,000 pound bomb that is deadly accurate 517 00:50:54,820 --> 00:51:00,170 and that is the thing that is allowing us, that allowed us in Afghanistan and will allow us in this next conflict 518 00:51:00,170 --> 00:51:03,510 to be terribly accurate, terribly precise and terribly destructive." 519 00:51:03,970 --> 00:51:08,800 "To see that military targets are destroyed, to be sure, 520 00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:14,110 but that it’s done in a way, in a manner, and in a 521 00:51:14,250 --> 00:51:17,140 destruct- in a direction and with a weapon 522 00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:20,880 that is appropriate to that very particularized target. 523 00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:26,110 The weapons that are being used today have a degree of precision 524 00:51:26,540 --> 00:51:28,570 that no one ever dreamt of." 525 00:51:28,850 --> 00:51:34,850 Well, there’s a saying that first casualty of war is the truth, and that’s true. 526 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,170 Whether any country uses propaganda, 527 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,080 first of all on its own citizens, 528 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,680 to get into a war and make sure the public supports the war, 529 00:51:45,820 --> 00:51:49,280 and then on the enemy, to feed the enemy. 530 00:51:50,310 --> 00:51:54,200 Wars are filled with propaganda terms like friendly fire. 531 00:51:54,620 --> 00:51:57,280 I hate that term. What it means is, 532 00:51:57,420 --> 00:51:59,770 we killed one of our own soldiers. 533 00:52:00,110 --> 00:52:04,910 Friendly fire sounds like, you know, let’s get out the marshmallows and the S’mores. 534 00:52:05,310 --> 00:52:09,420 Or, we now have bombs that are “smart” bombs 535 00:52:09,620 --> 00:52:13,000 and so, they don’t cause collateral damage. 536 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,080 What does that even mean, smart bombs and collateral damage? It means that 537 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:23,140 when you’re bombing Baghdad, you’re killing civilians. There’s no way around it. 538 00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:30,020 That’s collateral damage. It sounds like something in an insurance policy, you know, it helps us not really think of what’s going on. 539 00:52:30,020 --> 00:52:34,250 The idea of the military being able to show footage 540 00:52:34,540 --> 00:52:38,770 from a nose cone of some missile entering a window and 541 00:52:38,770 --> 00:52:44,800 blowing up a building, well obviously that’s a pretty smart bomb, because it just got in there and got “the bad guys”. 542 00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:48,200 I mean, “the bad guys” is sort of a post 9/11 term 543 00:52:48,910 --> 00:52:55,710 that’s right out of, you know, all the cowboy movies of the 20th century. 544 00:52:56,140 --> 00:53:02,170 The lone ranger was always after “the bad guys”. John Wayne was always out to get “the bad guys”. 545 00:53:03,140 --> 00:53:07,650 We’re often led to believe that this is another one of these binary systems, you know, 546 00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:10,740 in other words, we have a choice. 547 00:53:10,850 --> 00:53:16,220 Killing is either intentional or it’s unintentional, and unintentional means somehow accidental. 548 00:53:16,370 --> 00:53:19,080 That’s what we’re often being told by our leaders. 549 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,400 And that terrorists do the first. They kill intentionally. 550 00:53:24,850 --> 00:53:31,110 And when I say kill, I mean, kill innocent people intentionally. Kill civilians and kids and stuff. 551 00:53:32,170 --> 00:53:36,740 We, on the other hand, unfortunately, sometimes do that, but 552 00:53:36,740 --> 00:53:41,050 it’s always unintentional, it’s accidental, it’s not what we’re really trying to do. 553 00:53:43,110 --> 00:53:49,110 I think my response to that is twofold. In terms of intention, this is a false binary. 554 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,620 If you look at legal systems around the world, 555 00:53:52,910 --> 00:53:56,820 you find that they recognize that for something, 556 00:53:57,050 --> 00:54:03,200 to talk about murder, for example, most legal systems will say you have more than A killing B, 557 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,200 which is a physical act. You also have to have a certain mental state. 558 00:54:07,570 --> 00:54:12,420 In Latin, mens rea, means guilty mind. 559 00:54:14,570 --> 00:54:19,600 And then there are discussions and distinctions and divisions 560 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,480 in legal systems to what this guilty mind wound involve, 561 00:54:24,340 --> 00:54:29,480 and it doesn’t have to necessarily involve twirling your handlebar moustache and saying: 562 00:54:29,650 --> 00:54:32,770 “I’m gonna kill 500,000 kids in Iraq.” 563 00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:40,140 But, in our legal system we recognize there can be a guilty mind without that degree of intentionality. 564 00:54:40,540 --> 00:54:47,510 So, there are concepts of criminal negligence, there are concepts of doing something knowingly, rather than unknowingly, 565 00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:53,740 concepts of recklessness, concepts of so-and-so knew or should have known, 566 00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:57,680 should have reasonably known that their action would cause this death. 567 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:03,050 There are at least 4 levels of distinction in this idea of the guilty mind, 568 00:55:03,370 --> 00:55:09,850 and we should keep this in mind because it isn’t a question of on one hand twirling your handlebar moustache, 569 00:55:09,850 --> 00:55:12,140 or, somehow, it’s an accident. 570 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,620 There’s all these possibilities in between. So, for example, if somebody says: “Well, 571 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:23,280 my intention was not to kill anybody. I was hungry, there was a hot dog stand, 572 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,450 I saw there was only one hot dog left, 573 00:55:25,450 --> 00:55:30,340 so I drove my Humvee there as quickly as I could. Yes, I ran over 18 people, 574 00:55:30,570 --> 00:55:36,680 you know, because there was a crowd in front of the hot dog stand, but my intention was not to kill people, it was to have a hot dog!” 575 00:55:36,820 --> 00:55:40,280 Well, okay, try that one and you’ll end up in jail for quite a while. 576 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,850 The second thing I want to do is talk about actual military strategy. Some people still think that, 577 00:55:46,050 --> 00:55:51,200 “ah, the governments of the West would never do any kind of attack on civilians.” 578 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,880 Well, excuse me, that’s very naive. 579 00:55:54,200 --> 00:56:00,250 Since at least Clausewitz, who was a theoretician of war in the early 1800s, 580 00:56:00,710 --> 00:56:03,020 this idea of… 581 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,710 I mean, Clausewitz had this notion of, what he called “Centers of Gravity”. 582 00:56:07,050 --> 00:56:11,770 It’s not enough to attack the army of your opponent. 583 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,650 You know, in a modern, industrial society it makes, at times, much more sense 584 00:56:16,650 --> 00:56:21,540 to attack, for examples, their centers of production, industrial production. 585 00:56:21,740 --> 00:56:26,310 Or their centers of production of information and propaganda, or whatever. 586 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,910 He called these “Centers of Gravity”. And this idea of the CoG, or “Center of Gravity” is still 587 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,740 very much alive in US, say, US Air Force doctrine. 588 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:43,050 And it’s recognized that a society will have certain centers of gravity which must be attacked. 589 00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:48,770 You see this in attacks on Iraq, let’s say, 1991, 590 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,570 where the hydro-electric stations were targeted. 591 00:56:56,110 --> 00:57:00,050 They obviously were vital to the health of the society. 592 00:57:00,140 --> 00:57:06,220 They were vital to maintaining pure water, for example. Sewage system, water purification system. 593 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:12,050 So, when you talk about that they only used precision guided munitions, the question is: 594 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:19,220 yeah, but if they used them to knock out those mechanisms for maintaining 595 00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:25,620 health in the society, then obviously they are destroying that health and they know they are. 596 00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:29,250 And they even talk about targeting it at times. 597 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,450 A study called "Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities" 598 00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:37,620 was produced for the US military and the UK military, 599 00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:45,050 it is dated January, sometime January 1991, so the sanctions have been going on for some months, since August, 600 00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:49,970 against Iraq, but the actual armed attack had not quite yet begun. 601 00:57:51,370 --> 00:57:58,310 And the study concludes that “Iraq’s water purification system is in deep trouble 602 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,170 because of the sanctions. Iraq”, the document says very clearly, 603 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,050 “will not be able to repair these systems 604 00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:13,140 as long as the sanctions that now exist are in place.” 605 00:58:13,370 --> 00:58:18,250 And it says, “it’s already in deep disrepair and it’s going to get worse. 606 00:58:18,450 --> 00:58:24,400 We can expect the following epidemic diseases to break out”, and then they list them. 607 00:58:24,940 --> 00:58:28,940 We know they received the document, January 1991, so what did they do? 608 00:58:29,170 --> 00:58:34,600 Well, they attacked Iraq and they made water purification and sewage treatment 609 00:58:35,110 --> 00:58:39,420 even worse, much worse, in fact, than they had been when the document was… 610 00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:45,340 They destroyed some of these systems directly and in other cases, rendered them inoperative indirectly – 611 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,880 through knocking out hydro-electric stations. 612 00:58:49,050 --> 00:58:54,340 And then they maintained this system in this hopeless state of disrepair 613 00:58:54,850 --> 00:58:57,370 for the next 10 years or so. 614 00:58:57,650 --> 00:59:02,680 So, a reasonable estimate is that 500,000 kids 615 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,770 in Iraq that would otherwise be alive, died during that period. 616 00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:10,370 Not all from diarrhoeal diseases, but a substantial number. 617 00:59:10,510 --> 00:59:14,970 And it was known, and a study had been done. Everything was in place, now 618 00:59:15,310 --> 00:59:16,740 So what do we do at that? 619 00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:21,050 Was there a group of military officers sitting around Washington and saying: 620 00:59:21,050 --> 00:59:24,000 “Let’s kill 500,000 Iraqi kids!”? 621 00:59:24,170 --> 00:59:26,420 Don’t know. Probably not. 622 00:59:26,620 --> 00:59:31,850 But they were in full control of the situation, knew what was happening in every stage. 623 00:59:32,650 --> 00:59:36,940 So they did it knowingly. And they would certainly, 624 00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:40,050 if this had been a domestic crime, 625 00:59:40,250 --> 00:59:43,940 be considered to have mens rea, you know, the guilty mind 626 00:59:44,310 --> 00:59:46,820 and certainly be considered responsible. 627 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:54,020 To top it all off, we have a publication in which a US military officer brags 628 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:59,450 about the fact that they created, I think he calls it “a public health crisis” 629 00:59:59,770 --> 01:00:03,480 in Iraq through these sorts of methods. 630 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,370 So, not only did we do it, not only did we know we were doing it, 631 01:00:09,450 --> 01:00:14,280 but we celebrated. We regard it as a legitimate way of fighting war. 632 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,370 Despite the fact, that of course, it’s against the Fourth Geneva Convention. 633 01:00:18,570 --> 01:00:22,800 This is what’s being done. This is the kind of thing that’s being done pretty regularly now 634 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,510 through high-tech modern warfare by so called “democracies”. 635 01:00:26,910 --> 01:00:33,080 And the actual agent of destruction may be a precision guided missile, it doesn’t matter, 636 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:38,140 if the point of it is to ruin the health of a population, the civilian population. 637 01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:45,200 "We have heard that a half a million children have died. I mean, that’s more 638 01:00:45,370 --> 01:00:48,540 children than died when… in Hiroshima. 639 01:00:50,510 --> 01:00:52,600 You know, is the price worth it?" 640 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:58,770 "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it." 641 01:01:11,340 --> 01:01:17,740 Closely related to the practices of torture and Total Warfare is the concept of demonstrative violence. 642 01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:24,370 In the Phillippines, during the Huk insurrection, the CIA’s Ed Lansdale 643 01:01:24,370 --> 01:01:27,370 would use brutal violence as a form of PSYWAR. 644 01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:33,170 A later US army PSYWAR pamphlet explicitly refers to Lansdale’s techniques, 645 01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:35,850 advocating: 646 01:01:42,450 --> 01:01:48,280 In Indonesia, under various US-backed dictatorships, the idea of demonstrative violence 647 01:01:48,420 --> 01:01:51,110 would again take on genocidal proportions. 648 01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:56,450 As a PSYWAR tactic, the bodies of men, women and children 649 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,710 were dumped in rivers and kept afloat as a warning to the population at large. 650 01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:06,820 To make sure they didn’t sink, the carcasses were deliberately tied to, 651 01:02:06,820 --> 01:02:09,420 or impaled on, bamboo stakes. 652 01:02:17,310 --> 01:02:21,480 The rivers literally ran red with blood. 653 01:02:25,310 --> 01:02:30,710 Like psychological warfare itself, demonstrative violence is as old as civilization. 654 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,770 One of the most brutal forms would also become the symbol of one of the world’s great religions. 655 01:02:37,850 --> 01:02:44,740 Crucifixions were not only a means of torture and execution, but a demonstration to other would-be rebels. 656 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,540 In this clip from a documentary on Alexander the Great, 657 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,400 colonel Lance Petros discusses the power of demonstrative violence: 658 01:02:57,110 --> 01:03:01,310 "Alexander’s attitude toward defiance was ‘either join me, or die’." 659 01:03:04,220 --> 01:03:09,080 "Alexander begins what would become the longest and most brutal siege of his campaign. 660 01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:13,220 After 7 grueling months, when the walls are finally breached. 661 01:03:13,310 --> 01:03:17,740 7,000 Tyrions are killed and 30,000 enslaved. 662 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,680 To prove a point to other cities that might resist, 663 01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:26,400 he has 2,000 Tyrion fighters crucified.” 664 01:03:28,310 --> 01:03:33,110 "When he was finished, he allowed the bloodlust of his men to run loose 665 01:03:33,110 --> 01:03:38,340 and killed every, virtually every male inhabitant of the fortress. 666 01:03:39,770 --> 01:03:43,600 It was an awful display of brutality, 667 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:48,050 but it was also very effective in showing to any other potential 668 01:03:48,050 --> 01:03:50,570 enemies what could happen if they resisted." 669 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:24,680 Just as Alexander made an example of Tyre, the American army would make an example of Fallujah. 670 01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:31,440 On March 31st, 2004, four mercenaries working for Blackwater, USA, 671 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,280 were captured and killed by the Iraqi resistance 672 01:04:34,420 --> 01:04:36,840 and their bodies dragged through the streets. 673 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,820 What followed was one of the greatest war crimes in modern history. 674 01:05:08,060 --> 01:05:12,400 Sealing off Fallujah and forcing adult males and teenage boys to remain, 675 01:05:12,540 --> 01:05:16,280 over half of the entire city was raised to the ground. 676 01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:27,620 "We were told going in to Fallujah, to the combat area, 677 01:05:27,980 --> 01:05:31,140 that every single person that was walking, talking, breathing, 678 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,700 was an enemy combatant. 679 01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:38,840 As such, every single person that was walking on the street or into the house was a target." 680 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,720 Just as the spraying of Agent Orange in Vietnam 681 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,070 would lead to explosion in cancer rates and birth defects, 682 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:40,200 the use of white phosphorous and other munitions 683 01:07:40,220 --> 01:07:43,620 have produced similar results in cities like Fallujah. 684 01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:49,450 A study from July 2010, showed a 12-fold increase 685 01:07:49,570 --> 01:07:51,550 in childhood cancer in the city. 686 01:07:52,050 --> 01:07:56,500 It also reported that an incredible 14.7% of children 687 01:07:56,820 --> 01:07:59,020 are now born with birth defects, 688 01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:02,570 more than 14 times the figure recorded for Hiroshima. 689 01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:10,800 In a grim irony, shortly after the Fallujah Study was released, 690 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,170 Wired Magazine revealed that the US military 691 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,700 was teaching its officers at the Joint Forces Staff College 692 01:08:18,020 --> 01:08:22,250 to use “Hiroshima tactics” and wage a “Total war on Islam”. 693 01:08:25,050 --> 01:08:28,670 Arabs who resist occupation with armed self-defense, 694 01:08:28,750 --> 01:08:32,320 or conversely, adopt the tactics of their oppressors 695 01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:34,720 by engaging in acts of terrorism 696 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,070 are widely portrayed as being motivated by religion. 697 01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:42,970 Yet, an actual study of the subject came to the opposite conclusion. 698 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:49,350 The study was conducted at the University of Chicago’s project on security and terrorism. 699 01:08:49,650 --> 01:08:53,770 Among other revelations, it revealed that more than 95% of 700 01:08:53,770 --> 01:08:58,800 all suicide attacks are in response to foreign occupation, not religion. 701 01:08:59,550 --> 01:09:03,250 "Bachmann and four of her republican colleagues are demanding an investigation into 702 01:09:03,250 --> 01:09:06,700 potential infiltration by Muslim Brotherhood operatives 703 01:09:06,700 --> 01:09:09,450 intent on destroying western civilization." 704 01:09:09,750 --> 01:09:13,970 "Containing dangerous muslims, that is the subject of this evening’s Talking Points Memo." 705 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,850 "It’s a frightening thought, Islamic terrorist training camps 706 01:09:16,850 --> 01:09:20,020 right here in America in our backyards!" 707 01:09:20,020 --> 01:09:22,600 "So, we made it through the holidays without a terrorist attack, but 708 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,700 it doesn’t mean we can ever let our guard down, because our enemies are persistent 709 01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:27,870 and they’re patient. 710 01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:31,650 Could the hundreds of mosques in America be fronts for terror training?" 711 01:09:31,750 --> 01:09:35,320 "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim." 712 01:09:35,670 --> 01:09:39,650 "And said ‘there’s a menace tonight. You’ve upset a billion of us. You should watch out.’ 713 01:09:40,150 --> 01:09:42,470 That’s what it- ‘and we’re gonna try and move in 714 01:09:42,900 --> 01:09:47,900 to your city and your country and we’re gonna raise more and more demands.’ That’s what’s meant by it." 715 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,570 "Would you grant me this, that as long as there is an Israel in the world, 716 01:09:51,570 --> 01:09:55,320 and I’m a big supporter of Israel, and as long as America backs it, 717 01:09:56,250 --> 01:10:00,400 the kind of Muslims that take their religion that seriously that they would strap on a 718 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,900 suicide belt are always going to be out for us and always going to try to kill us?" 719 01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:08,050 "And the thing that worries me the most in the world is radical Islam, obviously, 720 01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:12,420 and increasingly, might I add, moderate Islam." 721 01:10:29,370 --> 01:10:35,600 The overarching narrative regarding Islam vs. the West was given pseudo-intellectual justification 722 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:43,000 by Samuel Huntington, a member of the elite Trilateral Commission, via his book The Clash of Civilizations. 723 01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:50,150 It’s as a very brief and rather crudely articulated manual in the art of maintaining 724 01:10:50,350 --> 01:10:53,520 a war-time status in the minds of Americans and others, 725 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:57,670 that Huntington’s work has to be now understood. 726 01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:02,500 I go so far as saying that it argues from a standpoint of Pentagon planners 727 01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:04,850 and defense industry executives 728 01:11:05,050 --> 01:11:10,950 who may have temporarily lost their occupations after the end of the Cold War, but have now discovered a new vocation for themselves. 729 01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:13,820 But few people today with any sense 730 01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:19,270 would want to volunteer such sweeping characterizations as the ones advanced by Lewis about 731 01:11:19,470 --> 01:11:22,270 a billion - a billion Muslims 732 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:28,070 scattered through five continents, dozens of differing languages and traditions and histories. 733 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:34,050 Of them all, Lewis says that they are all enraged at Western modernity. 734 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,570 As if a billion people were really only one person 735 01:11:37,770 --> 01:11:43,420 and Western civilization was no more complicated a matter than a simple declarative sentence. 736 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,850 There is a similar debate inside the Islamic world today, 737 01:11:48,050 --> 01:11:52,600 which in the often hysterical outcry about the threat of Islam, Islamic fundamentalism 738 01:11:53,050 --> 01:11:57,670 and terrorism that one encounters so often in the media, is often lost sight of completely. 739 01:11:58,170 --> 01:12:04,050 Like any other major world culture, Islam contains within itself an astonishing variety 740 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:09,500 of currents and counter-currents. I would say that it is this extremely widespread attitude 741 01:12:09,670 --> 01:12:16,120 of questioning and skepticism towards age-old authority that characterizes the post World War 742 01:12:16,270 --> 01:12:20,720 in both east and west. And it’s that that Huntington cannot handle, and therefore, 743 01:12:20,850 --> 01:12:27,020 resorts to the business of next clash of cultures, or the clash of civilizations. 744 01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:31,420 What is described as Islam belongs to the discourse of Orientalism, 745 01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:34,200 a construction fabricated to whip up feelings 746 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:40,800 of hostility and antipathy against a part of the world that happens to be of strategic importance for its oil, 747 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,750 its threatening adjacence to Christianity, its formidable history of competition with the West. 748 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:52,670 Yet this is a very different thing, than what to Muslims who live within its domain, Islam really is. 749 01:12:52,850 --> 01:12:58,020 There’s a world of difference between Islam in Indonesia and Islam in Egypt. 750 01:12:58,570 --> 01:13:06,420 But the truly weakest part, and I conclude here, the weakest part of the clash of cultures and civilizations thesis 751 01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:09,900 is the rigid separation assumed between them despite 752 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,350 the overwhelming evidence that today’s world is, in fact, 753 01:13:14,820 --> 01:13:20,150 a world of mixtures, of migrations and of crossings over, of boundaries traversed. 754 01:13:20,270 --> 01:13:23,500 There are no insulated cultures or civilizations. 755 01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:28,400 Any attempt made to separate them into the watertight compartments alleged 756 01:13:28,670 --> 01:13:32,550 by Huntington and his ilk does damage to their variety, 757 01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:37,950 their diversity, their sheer complexity of elements, their radical hybridity. 758 01:13:38,050 --> 01:13:41,100 The more insistent we are on the separation of the cultures, 759 01:13:41,420 --> 01:13:45,600 the more inaccurate we are about ourselves and about others. 760 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,820 Our most precious asset in the face of such a dire transformation of history 761 01:13:50,820 --> 01:13:53,820 is the emergence not of a sense of clash, 762 01:13:53,950 --> 01:13:57,550 but a sense of community, understanding, sympathy, and hope, 763 01:13:57,770 --> 01:14:02,370 which is the direct opposite of what Huntington provokes. 764 01:14:02,620 --> 01:14:07,950 The language of group identity makes a particularly strident appearance from the middle to the end of the nineteenth century 765 01:14:08,150 --> 01:14:11,400 as the culmination of decades of international competition 766 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:16,420 between the great European and American powers for territories in Africa and Asia. 767 01:14:16,850 --> 01:14:21,000 In the battle for the empty spaces of Africa, the so called Dark Continent, 768 01:14:21,220 --> 01:14:25,650 France and Britain, Germany, Belgium, Portugal, 769 01:14:26,020 --> 01:14:31,770 resort not only to force but to a whole slew of theories and rhetorics for justifying their plunder. 770 01:14:32,270 --> 01:14:37,170 Perhaps the most famous of such devices is a French notion of the civilizing mission 771 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,170 – la mission civilizatrice – 772 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:45,100 a notion underlying which is the idea that some races and cultures have a higher aim in life than others. 773 01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:49,200 This gives the more powerful, the more developed, the more civilized, the higher, 774 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,870 the right to colonize others, not in the name of brute force, or plunder, 775 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,820 both of which are standard components of the exercise, 776 01:14:57,500 --> 01:14:59,720 but in the name of a noble ideal. 777 01:15:00,870 --> 01:15:03,550 Conrad’s most famous story, The Heart of Darkness, 778 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,320 is an ironic, even terrifying enactment of this thesis that, as the narrator puts it, 779 01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:14,050 “the conquest of the Earth which mostly means the taking it away from those have a different complexion, 780 01:15:14,050 --> 01:15:18,220 a slightly flatter noses than ourselves, is not a pretty thing when you look into it too much. 781 01:15:18,650 --> 01:15:22,750 What redeems it, is the idea. An idea at the back of it, 782 01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:25,320 not a sentimental pretense but an idea, 783 01:15:25,620 --> 01:15:31,050 and an unselfish belief in the idea, something you can bow down before and sacrifice to.” 784 01:15:32,350 --> 01:15:35,570 In response to this sort of logic two things occur. 785 01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:41,570 One is that competing imperial powers invent their own theory of cultural destiny 786 01:15:41,570 --> 01:15:44,100 in order to justify their actions abroad. 787 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:50,420 Britain had such a theory, Germany had one, Belgium had one and of course, in the concept of Manifest Destiny, 788 01:15:50,620 --> 01:15:52,400 the United States had one too. 789 01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:55,620 These redeeming ideas 790 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,670 dignify the practice of competition and clash, 791 01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:04,270 whose real purpose, as Conrad quite accurately saw, was self aggrandizement, 792 01:16:04,270 --> 01:16:08,320 power, conquest, treasure and unrestrained self-pride. 793 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,920 The second thing that happens is that the lesser peoples, 794 01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:16,570 the objects of the imperial gaze, so to speak; 795 01:16:16,850 --> 01:16:21,520 respond by resisting their forcible manipulation and settlement. 796 01:16:21,700 --> 01:16:26,500 Pride of place, in this practice, is given to compassion 797 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:32,320 and it is an arresting fact that right across the board in every single one 798 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,270 of the major world faiths, 799 01:16:34,270 --> 01:16:37,650 compassion, the ability to feel with the other 800 01:16:37,650 --> 01:16:40,150 in the way we’ve been thinking about this evening 801 01:16:40,270 --> 01:16:45,170 is the, not only the test of any true religiousity, 802 01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:49,650 it is also what will bring us into the presence of what 803 01:16:49,770 --> 01:16:53,000 Jews, Christians and Muslims call God or the Divine. 804 01:16:53,470 --> 01:16:58,770 It is compassion, says the Buddha, which brings you to nirvana. 805 01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:04,700 Why? Because in compassion, when we feel with the other, we dethrone ourselves 806 01:17:04,700 --> 01:17:08,950 from the center of our world and we put another person there. 807 01:17:11,620 --> 01:17:15,850 Once we get rid of ego, then we’re ready to see the divine. 808 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,650 And in particular, every single one of the major world traditions 809 01:17:20,650 --> 01:17:28,970 has highlighted and has put at the core of their tradition what’s become known as the golden rule. 810 01:17:29,550 --> 01:17:33,620 First propounded by Confucius five centuries before Christ: 811 01:17:33,620 --> 01:17:36,820 “do not do to others what you would not like them to do to you”, 812 01:17:36,820 --> 01:17:40,070 that, he said, was the central thread which ran through 813 01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:45,570 all his teaching and that his disciples should put into practice all day and every day, 814 01:17:45,570 --> 01:17:51,600 and it was the golden rule would bring them to transcendent value that he called “ren”. 815 01:17:51,850 --> 01:17:56,800 Human heartedness, which was a transcendent experience in itself. 816 01:17:56,950 --> 01:18:01,120 And this is absolutely crucial to the monotheisms, too. 817 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:06,070 There’s a famous story about a great rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, 818 01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:10,050 a pagan came to him and offered to convert to Judaism 819 01:18:10,250 --> 01:18:14,220 if the rabbi could recite the whole of Jewish teaching while he stood on one leg. 820 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,270 Hillel stood on one leg and said: “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. 821 01:18:19,420 --> 01:18:22,400 That is the Tora, the rest is commentary.” 822 01:18:22,500 --> 01:18:26,520 And this is an important point, I think, that you could not and must not 823 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,900 confine your compassion to your own group, 824 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,470 your own nation, your own co-religioness, your own fellow countrymen. 825 01:18:35,470 --> 01:18:41,150 You must have what one of the Chinese sages call ren’ai – concern for everybody. 826 01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:45,300 Love your enemies, honor the stranger. 827 01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:51,550 We formed you, says the Quran, into tribes and nations, so that you may know one another. 828 01:18:52,350 --> 01:18:56,770 And this again, this universal outreach, 829 01:18:56,770 --> 01:19:02,000 is getting subdued in the strident use of religion, 830 01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:07,670 abuse of religion for nefarious gains. 831 01:19:08,020 --> 01:19:13,150 Make no mistake about it, religion is a kind of fault line, 832 01:19:13,650 --> 01:19:19,220 and when a conflict gets engrained in a region, 833 01:19:19,550 --> 01:19:22,970 religion can get sucked in and become part of the problem. 834 01:19:22,970 --> 01:19:25,500 "Extremism is when 835 01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:29,320 you do not allow 836 01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:33,370 for a different point of view 837 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,470 and when you 838 01:19:37,820 --> 01:19:39,270 hold 839 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,320 your view as being quite exclusive." 840 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,800 "On August 18th, at the Ramada Hotel in central Jerusalem, 841 01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:57,350 leading Israeli rabbis gathered to defend a publication of a book by one of their peers 842 01:19:57,350 --> 01:20:01,850 that cited rabbinic sources to justify the killing of non-Jews, 843 01:20:02,020 --> 01:20:05,150 including innocent children and families." 844 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,120 "There is no salvation in hell, 845 01:20:08,250 --> 01:20:11,470 there’s no savior in hell, there’s no Bible in hell, 846 01:20:11,570 --> 01:20:14,720 there’s no blood in hell, there’s no altars in hell, 847 01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:20,620 there’s no forgiveness in hell, whatever goes to hell, stays in hell!" 848 01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:23,250 "Satan, be gone!" 849 01:20:30,050 --> 01:20:33,770 Like all religions, Islam has its share of extremists. 850 01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:40,300 Yet, far from opposing such groups, the major western powers have frequently supported them. 851 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:48,820 The most notorious case remains Saudi Arabia, where people are routinely beheaded for crimes such as sorcery and witchcraft. 852 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:55,900 In 2011, the Obama administration and the Saudis conducted the biggest arms deal in history. 853 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,920 Islamic fundamentalists have consistently been empowered by the West, 854 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,100 both as a “divide and conquer” stratagem, 855 01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:08,370 and as a means of countering secular nationalist regimes 856 01:21:08,370 --> 01:21:11,020 which threaten control of oil supplies. 857 01:21:14,150 --> 01:21:18,620 This has been seen most recently in the proxy wars against Syria and Libya, 858 01:21:18,620 --> 01:21:22,300 where NATO backed islamists have caused thousands of deaths. 859 01:21:24,670 --> 01:21:29,550 "About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and 860 01:21:30,220 --> 01:21:35,070 Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff 861 01:21:35,070 --> 01:21:38,870 who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to 862 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,900 come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, 863 01:21:44,570 --> 01:21:47,900 “We’ve made the decision, we’re going to war with Iraq.” 864 01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:50,400 This was on or about the 20th of September. 865 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,520 I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” 866 01:21:54,820 --> 01:21:58,220 He said, “I don’t know.” (laughter) 867 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,570 So I came back to see him a few weeks later, 868 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:07,750 and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” 869 01:22:07,850 --> 01:22:11,470 He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, 870 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,300 he said “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — 871 01:22:15,300 --> 01:22:18,970 “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out 872 01:22:19,070 --> 01:22:22,070 seven countries in five years, 873 01:22:22,270 --> 01:22:25,000 starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, 874 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,650 Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran."" 875 01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:31,720 "Go through the countries again." 876 01:22:32,220 --> 01:22:39,050 "Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and Sudan, and back to Iran." 877 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,370 The US would indeed attack Iraq, 878 01:22:43,450 --> 01:22:48,000 but the people of Libya and Syria would have to wait until the next administration 879 01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:50,850 to receive the gift of American democracy. 880 01:22:51,550 --> 01:22:55,970 "Let’s get it done! Let’s arm these rebels. Let’s give them a chance to fight." 881 01:22:56,050 --> 01:23:00,020 A sentiment also supported by MSNBC’s most liberal talk show host 882 01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:02,420 Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell. 883 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,850 "It seems to me there’s a practical 884 01:23:04,850 --> 01:23:07,850 war-making tactical success 885 01:23:07,850 --> 01:23:10,550 that they believe they could have in this particular country." 886 01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:10,570 "Exactly, he kept describing himself as sort of acutely aware of that they believe they could have in this particular country." 887 01:23:10,570 --> 01:23:14,420 "Exactly, he kept describing himself as sort of acutely aware of 888 01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:19,750 the risks and the costs of America doing any sort of military intervention, so you’re exactly right." 889 01:23:19,870 --> 01:23:24,250 "I think we have to do it. It is a moral decision at this point." 890 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:56,350 The headline from Reuters yesterday: President Barack Obama has signed a secret order 891 01:23:56,350 --> 01:24:02,700 authorizing US support for rebels seeking to dispose Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad and his government. 892 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,150 A US government source acknowledged that under provisions of presidential finding, 893 01:24:07,150 --> 01:24:10,900 the US is collaborating with a secret command center 894 01:24:10,900 --> 01:24:13,150 operated by Turkey and its allies. 895 01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:17,320 Last week, Reuters reported that along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, 896 01:24:17,450 --> 01:24:22,650 Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military 897 01:24:22,650 --> 01:24:25,300 and communications support to Assad’s opponents. 898 01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:31,670 So, what you need to know: late last year, when Senator John McCain co-wrote the National Defense Authorization Act 899 01:24:31,770 --> 01:24:34,270 and President Obama signed it into law, 900 01:24:34,420 --> 01:24:38,020 they crafted a law that gave the President the authority to use all 901 01:24:38,020 --> 01:24:41,900 necessary and appropriate force during the current armed conflict 902 01:24:42,050 --> 01:24:45,920 with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and associated forces, 903 01:24:46,020 --> 01:24:50,420 including the power to indefinitely detain anyone caught supporting Al-Qaeda, 904 01:24:50,670 --> 01:24:54,220 which in this case, is the President and members of Congress. 905 01:24:54,370 --> 01:24:57,700 To be clear, we’re spending over a trillion dollars, 906 01:24:57,700 --> 01:25:03,120 and more importantly, spilling the blood of thousands of American lives in Iraq and Afghanistan, 907 01:25:03,370 --> 01:25:07,900 then spending more American money and military power to, in some cases, 908 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,850 help the same fighters overthrow another government. 909 01:25:12,575 --> 01:25:15,050 For the most part, this began, 910 01:25:15,050 --> 01:25:19,150 in the generic form, from around the 1960s, really took off, 911 01:25:19,725 --> 01:25:22,850 where we had, in places like Egypt, 912 01:25:23,225 --> 01:25:25,350 institutions like the Muslim Brotherhood 913 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:33,350 which were founded with the covert financial support of the CIA. 914 01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:36,750 And this is very well documented, it’s not controversial anymore. 915 01:25:36,925 --> 01:25:39,850 That doesn’t mean that organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, 916 01:25:39,850 --> 01:25:43,275 from top down, were simply, kind of, plants 917 01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:45,750 from western intelligence services. 918 01:25:45,875 --> 01:25:49,575 On the contrary, there were movements inside Egypt 919 01:25:50,125 --> 01:25:54,800 which organically emerged as a result of struggles going on inside that country 920 01:25:55,075 --> 01:25:59,150 with a combination of western interference, secularization, 921 01:25:59,275 --> 01:26:05,150 the emergence of modernity, the struggle between kind of, traditional cultural ideas linked to Islam, 922 01:26:05,325 --> 01:26:12,175 the sense of grievance that occurred in terms of British colonization and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire 923 01:26:12,375 --> 01:26:15,425 and the way in which Muslims responded to that 924 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,700 across these different regions. So, all of these complex things 925 01:26:18,875 --> 01:26:23,950 are what gave rise to these very different types of thinking. 926 01:26:23,950 --> 01:26:30,825 But, certainly, the Muslim Brotherhood is an example where movements that were led by ideologues like Hassan al-Banna for example, 927 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:39,350 and Sayyd Qutb, who, I don’t think there’s any reason to think that these particular individuals were in any way, kind of, say, plants, for example. 928 01:26:39,650 --> 01:26:43,925 But the ideas that they developed were given 929 01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:48,000 financial mobilization and infrastructural support in a way that 930 01:26:48,170 --> 01:26:50,975 probably wouldn’t have been possible without the input of 931 01:26:50,970 --> 01:26:54,600 the United States and Britain and other Western European powers. 932 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,475 In the Middle East, you find that these virulent Islamist movements 933 01:26:58,825 --> 01:27:05,375 were supported as a way of countering both independent nationalist movements, 934 01:27:06,025 --> 01:27:10,575 as well as movements that were left-leaning. 935 01:27:10,570 --> 01:27:14,125 This whole process basically accelerated when 936 01:27:14,450 --> 01:27:20,850 US began to see Afghanistan as a major area of strategic influence, 937 01:27:21,325 --> 01:27:26,475 and Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former National Security adviser to the Carter administration, 938 01:27:26,875 --> 01:27:31,100 as well as Richard Helms, former director of the CIA, have both admitted that 939 01:27:31,250 --> 01:27:35,450 they began intelligence interference and military intelligence operations in Afghanistan 940 01:27:35,450 --> 01:27:37,725 before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. 941 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,900 Afghanistan was considered to be a gateway to Eurasia, 942 01:27:42,325 --> 01:27:46,975 and Eurasia herself was also considered to be the basis for 943 01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:51,225 maintaining US hegemony. If you controlled Afghanistan, you could control Eurasia, 944 01:27:51,220 --> 01:27:54,150 if you controlled Eurasia, you would control world order. 945 01:27:54,275 --> 01:27:59,600 And this is simply because of, again: population, resources, geographic position. 946 01:27:59,825 --> 01:28:05,100 So these are all very imperial considerations and Brzezinski actually articulated these ideas 947 01:28:05,225 --> 01:28:08,100 very candidly in his book, The Grand Chessboard. 948 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,650 So, this was why we got involved in Afghanistan. 949 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,700 Well, in the process, we funded; and by we I mean the US, Britain, 950 01:28:16,875 --> 01:28:23,400 again – western European powers, even elements of the Muslim world who were allies of the US: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan… 951 01:28:23,575 --> 01:28:26,700 We funded these virulent, marginal groups 952 01:28:27,100 --> 01:28:31,225 in Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden was involved in this process. 953 01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:36,400 He had connections with the CIA, he received funding from the CIA 954 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,100 to facilitate the establishment of the Tora Bora complex, for example. 955 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:49,775 "US national security adviser Brzezinski flew to Pakistan to set about rallying resistance. 956 01:28:50,050 --> 01:28:54,275 He wanted to arm the Mujahideen without revealing America’s role. 957 01:28:54,750 --> 01:29:00,225 On the Afghan border near the Khyber Pass he urged the “soldiers of god” to re-double their efforts." 958 01:29:00,750 --> 01:29:04,250 "We know of their deep belief in God 959 01:29:04,250 --> 01:29:07,575 and we are confident that their struggle will succeed." 960 01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:11,775 This process continued throughout the first Cold War period 961 01:29:12,025 --> 01:29:15,250 as a way of rolling back the Soviet Union. 962 01:29:15,475 --> 01:29:19,475 It was paralleled, again, in the Middle East, where funding 963 01:29:19,650 --> 01:29:23,225 of the same kinds of movements accelerated across the Middle East 964 01:29:23,325 --> 01:29:26,575 in order to, basically – again – roll back the Soviet influence 965 01:29:26,675 --> 01:29:30,150 or potential left-leaning interference in all of these countries. 966 01:29:30,725 --> 01:29:35,475 In 1958, president Eisenhower 967 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:39,250 expressed – in internal discretion, since declassified – 968 01:29:39,250 --> 01:29:42,625 concern about what he called a "campaign of hatred against us" 969 01:29:42,875 --> 01:29:47,900 in the Arab world. Not by governments, but by the people. 970 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,725 The National Security Council explained, at the same time, 971 01:29:52,975 --> 01:29:56,400 the reasons for it (this is the highest planning body): 972 01:29:56,500 --> 01:30:01,650 they said there’s a perception in the Arab world that the US supports 973 01:30:01,825 --> 01:30:05,650 dictatorships and blocks democracy and development, 974 01:30:05,950 --> 01:30:12,150 and that we do that so as to ensure control over the resources of the region. 975 01:30:12,350 --> 01:30:16,575 Furthermore, they went on to say that the perception is, basically, accurate 976 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,450 and that that's exactly what we should be doing 977 01:30:20,650 --> 01:30:23,050 - relying on the Muasher Doctrine: 978 01:30:23,150 --> 01:30:27,725 As long as people are quiet, everything is under control, it’s fine. 979 01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:32,875 During the Eisenhower administration, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles 980 01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:36,450 summed up the dominant view amongst American strategic planners: 981 01:30:53,075 --> 01:30:55,525 During the Cold War, the new state of Israel 982 01:30:55,520 --> 01:31:00,000 was perceived as an important ally in the struggle against Arab independence. 983 01:31:00,850 --> 01:31:04,000 And the Israelis had their own imperial ambitions. 984 01:31:11,275 --> 01:31:14,925 You’re faced, in that sense, with a terrible predicament, 985 01:31:15,150 --> 01:31:19,100 if you’re going to be a Zionist, and which is that you have to 986 01:31:19,275 --> 01:31:24,500 conquer the land that you say God gave to you. 987 01:31:24,725 --> 01:31:30,675 And the conquest will be rationalized by the sufferings that you have received and 988 01:31:31,050 --> 01:31:34,975 the fact that you felt yourself divinely entitled to it. 989 01:31:35,250 --> 01:31:37,275 Zionist movement goes back 990 01:31:37,625 --> 01:31:42,025 really to the beginnings of the 19th century but it was only adopted by 991 01:31:42,150 --> 01:31:45,425 Jews out of a conflict and a crisis that they had 992 01:31:45,525 --> 01:31:47,925 towards the close of the 19th century. 993 01:31:48,225 --> 01:31:53,025 And that set forth for the Jews 994 01:31:54,725 --> 01:31:59,250 a choice, which was to develop a nationalism for themselves. 995 01:31:59,550 --> 01:32:02,575 It wasn’t the only choice, I mean, a lot of other Jews decided 996 01:32:02,725 --> 01:32:07,250 to become very pious and just go to the religious traditions 997 01:32:07,250 --> 01:32:10,625 or they decided to go westward and 998 01:32:10,875 --> 01:32:16,250 became very, very important in the history of the US immigration, or 999 01:32:16,250 --> 01:32:20,225 they became very much involved with Marxist and socialist movements. 1000 01:32:20,500 --> 01:32:24,325 But there was this also fourth impulse which was to become 1001 01:32:25,275 --> 01:32:29,250 the bearer of an idea that they had to develop their nationalism. 1002 01:32:29,475 --> 01:32:35,525 Ben Gurion, and later Moshe Dayan, who was his Chief of Staff, 1003 01:32:36,350 --> 01:32:40,075 said: "Listen, if I were an Arab, I 1004 01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:43,475 would do everything possible to kick out the Jews. 1005 01:32:43,575 --> 01:32:47,900 But I’m a Jew, and we have this destiny and we’re going to take this country over." 1006 01:32:48,350 --> 01:32:54,900 The early Zionists were interested in this and they sent a couple of scouts to 1007 01:32:55,150 --> 01:32:59,550 study the situation and they cabled back, 1008 01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:05,250 in crypto language, but unmistakable, the following message: 1009 01:33:05,450 --> 01:33:09,650 "The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man." 1010 01:33:10,300 --> 01:33:14,225 The bride being the land that they sought for themselves, 1011 01:33:14,525 --> 01:33:20,550 and the marriage being the brood factor there were other people living there who had in fact inhabited that land. In fact, 1012 01:33:21,050 --> 01:33:26,225 these people whom we call Palestinians have, to some degree, inhabited it ever since 1013 01:33:28,525 --> 01:33:33,050 destruction of the Jewish temple back in 70 AD, 1014 01:33:33,250 --> 01:33:36,625 and they’re probably the descendents of the original Jews. 1015 01:33:37,650 --> 01:33:44,025 Whereas the Jews who came at the end of the 19th century and through the 20th century were mainly Jews 1016 01:33:44,020 --> 01:33:48,725 who developed in Eastern Europe or Russian territory. 1017 01:33:48,850 --> 01:33:51,950 Such is my own family, called the Ashkenazi Jews, 1018 01:33:52,775 --> 01:33:58,650 and we certainly had the religion but there was no actual authentic national rootedness. 1019 01:33:59,250 --> 01:34:05,200 And to take it over required ethnic cleansing. It’s built into the logic, it’s an iron necessity. 1020 01:34:05,675 --> 01:34:11,325 It can wax, it can wane, it can take legal forms, it can take administrative forms, it can take economic forms, 1021 01:34:11,425 --> 01:34:17,500 and then, of course, in 1947 and 48, took terroristic and military forms, and became 1022 01:34:17,725 --> 01:34:21,975 the great Nakba, which is the catastrophe of Palestinian existence when 1023 01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:27,275 800,000 Palestinians were violently expelled, 531 villages were destroyed, 1024 01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:30,125 the memory of those villages was erased, and the like. 1025 01:34:30,550 --> 01:34:35,725 So that’s the foundational event which happens to have been a crime. 1026 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:40,400 Of course, it’s a crime to take somebody else’s land and that’s the essence of the matter. 1027 01:37:14,275 --> 01:37:17,550 The imbalance is incredible – it’s a 100 to 1 basically, 1028 01:37:17,875 --> 01:37:22,525 and yet, somehow, it’s possible, given this kind of matrix that 1029 01:37:22,775 --> 01:37:29,525 – the history of being persecuted for being Jewish in anti-Semitic societies – 1030 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,400 so all these fears can be 1031 01:37:33,150 --> 01:37:35,825 called and drummed up, and 1032 01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:40,825 the strident government propaganda saying: “We’re defending the integrity of the state of Israel”, 1033 01:37:40,820 --> 01:37:44,375 so a lot of… You know, it’s amazing how people can 1034 01:37:44,750 --> 01:37:48,775 turn the truth on its head and believe that they are in fact the victim 1035 01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:51,700 of a force, namely the Palestinians. 1036 01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:56,125 I think Palestinians have very remarkable qualities, those chiefly being able to endure 1037 01:37:56,300 --> 01:38:01,500 the punishment that’s been meted out to them. It’s incredible that they’re as forgiving and as 1038 01:38:01,725 --> 01:38:07,725 benign a people as, in fact, they are. I know many, many Palestinians and they are remarkable in a lack of vengeance. 1039 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,750 Of course, they have their anger and their little sects 1040 01:38:10,750 --> 01:38:14,950 within them and some of them will do terrible things, cause that’s human beings. 1041 01:38:15,150 --> 01:38:18,450 But in any sense that this is a real threat to the state of Israel 1042 01:38:18,625 --> 01:38:21,750 is just in the realm of madness and delusion. 1043 01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:25,350 All governments have to justify what they’re doing, they have to become legitimate and the like, 1044 01:38:26,075 --> 01:38:28,650 and the worse they behave, the more strenuously they have to 1045 01:38:28,775 --> 01:38:31,800 lie and distort reality in order to be legitimate. 1046 01:38:32,125 --> 01:38:37,300 And this is what they’re doing and they somehow succeeded through 1047 01:38:37,300 --> 01:38:40,875 a sustained propaganda campaign to 1048 01:38:41,050 --> 01:38:44,925 persuade the majority of Israeli citizens that the Palestinians were the aggressors 1049 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,975 and a genuine threat to the state of Israel, which is absolute nonsense. 1050 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:54,625 State-structured racism – I mean, the racism is profound and it is necessary, 1051 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,900 given the basic logic 1052 01:38:57,850 --> 01:39:01,275 of the social compact of the basic structure of the state, so 1053 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,700 it is impossible to avoid. 1054 01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:09,775 So, not only is it unavoidable, but it’s inevitably going to get worse 1055 01:39:10,050 --> 01:39:12,500 and is getting worse all the time. 1056 01:39:32,650 --> 01:39:37,425 There’s more racism in Israel, sociologically measured against the Palestinians, 1057 01:39:37,700 --> 01:39:40,375 the IDF, Israel Army 1058 01:39:40,625 --> 01:39:45,375 is increasingly violent against Palestinians in all respects 1059 01:39:45,900 --> 01:39:51,575 and the situation does not resolve and is heading towards 1060 01:39:51,675 --> 01:39:56,025 an extremely calamitous outcome, well it’s calamitous even in itself now. 1061 01:39:59,675 --> 01:40:06,450 In the 21st century, an increasing number of Jews are demanding a just peace with the Palestinians, 1062 01:40:07,025 --> 01:40:11,125 yet the Israeli government remains committed to war and expansion. 1063 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,750 What are the roots of the war on terror, as a concept? 1064 01:40:18,875 --> 01:40:22,400 It was actually invented by Benjamin Netanyahu 1065 01:40:22,425 --> 01:40:26,475 who then became the Prime Minister of Israel in 1979. 1066 01:40:26,675 --> 01:40:29,750 Netanyahu had called a conference 1067 01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:32,475 on international terrorism, 1068 01:40:32,625 --> 01:40:36,825 and he coined the phrase “international terrorism” in 1979. 1069 01:40:37,675 --> 01:40:41,375 Bush Sr. who was then head of the CIA and George Shultz, 1070 01:40:41,370 --> 01:40:45,200 who later became Secretary of State were at this conference. 1071 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:50,650 At that conference Netanyahu and Shimon Perez 1072 01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:55,575 and most of the other presenters – including Bush – proposed, essentially, 1073 01:40:55,570 --> 01:40:59,625 the war on terror policies which would characterize 1074 01:40:59,725 --> 01:41:04,600 liberation, resistance groups, anti-colonial resistance groups as terrorists. 1075 01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:06,950 For Netanyahu it was the PLO 1076 01:41:07,125 --> 01:41:13,825 and it was Arabs and Palestinians who were to be characterized as terrorists. 1077 01:41:24,275 --> 01:41:28,325 "Listen to the sound of Al’Thar!" 1078 01:41:30,300 --> 01:41:33,875 For Bush, it was the Sandinistas and Allende and 1079 01:41:33,875 --> 01:41:33,925 people in El Salvador and resistance fighters in Indonesia, and so on. For Bush, it was the Sandinistas and Allende and 1080 01:41:33,925 --> 01:41:37,825 people in El Salvador and resistance fighters in Indonesia, and so on. 1081 01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:45,950 "The infiltration into the Americas by terrorists, 1082 01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,850 by outside interference and those who 1083 01:41:49,075 --> 01:41:53,350 aren’t just aiming at El Salvador, but, I think, are aiming at 1084 01:41:53,975 --> 01:41:57,775 the whole of Central, and possibly later, South America, and, 1085 01:41:58,000 --> 01:41:59,950 I’m sure, eventually, North America." 1086 01:41:59,975 --> 01:42:04,425 It worked so well that by 1984 the second conference on international terrorism 1087 01:42:04,420 --> 01:42:06,875 was held not in Jerusalem, but in Washington, D.C. 1088 01:42:07,150 --> 01:42:11,575 So, that was one of the first seeds of planting the idea of 1089 01:42:11,975 --> 01:42:17,525 characterizing Muslims and Arabs and Palestinians as terrorists. 1090 01:42:18,025 --> 01:42:20,700 It’s interesting, right after 9/11, 1091 01:42:21,725 --> 01:42:28,075 Margaret Thatcher wrote an article that crowed saying: “Islam is the new Bolshevism”. 1092 01:42:28,525 --> 01:42:31,525 After the Soviet Union collapsed, the US had a problem. 1093 01:42:31,700 --> 01:42:35,625 They couldn’t justify the massive military spending and the imperial control 1094 01:42:35,620 --> 01:42:40,525 and the bases and things and the American people were clamoring for a piece dividend. 1095 01:42:40,725 --> 01:42:45,250 In 1992, shortly after the Soviet Union collapsed 1096 01:42:45,375 --> 01:42:51,025 and Bush Sr. was now president, he set up the DPG Group, the Defense Policy Guidance Group, 1097 01:42:51,125 --> 01:42:57,525 to come up with strategies for making United States a permanent empire in the world, 1098 01:42:58,175 --> 01:42:59,950 giving it permanent control. 1099 01:43:00,075 --> 01:43:02,325 Dick Cheney was leading it 1100 01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:08,750 and Rumsfeld and Powell came up with two conflicting, two alternate scenarios. 1101 01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:12,300 Rumsfeld’s was selected. It was basically 1102 01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:16,025 proposed taking over the Middle East and the Caspian Sea area. 1103 01:43:16,150 --> 01:43:20,900 When that one was exposed by the NY Times 1104 01:43:20,900 --> 01:43:23,700 it became part of the reason that Bush Sr. was 1105 01:43:24,175 --> 01:43:26,450 turfed out of office, it was a scandal. 1106 01:43:26,750 --> 01:43:31,875 Shortly after that, I think in 1994 or 1995, Zalmay Khalilzad 1107 01:43:32,175 --> 01:43:38,075 was commissioned to write a piece under the direction of Brzezinski. 1108 01:43:38,300 --> 01:43:41,550 He wrote this book, again, saying that 1109 01:43:41,675 --> 01:43:44,750 the Caspian Sea area, which includes Afghanistan, 1110 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:50,800 and the Middle East both needed to be conquered in order for the US to have permanent control. 1111 01:43:50,900 --> 01:43:54,975 And again, Khalilzad said this would be a difficult sell 1112 01:43:54,970 --> 01:43:57,750 to the American public and that you would need a pretext incident - 1113 01:43:57,825 --> 01:44:00,925 - it was the first time pretext incident was mentioned. 1114 01:44:01,675 --> 01:44:05,250 What was happening at the same time was that the US was maneuvering 1115 01:44:05,425 --> 01:44:09,125 the Caspian Sea area: Tajikistan, Kazakhstan – 1116 01:44:09,300 --> 01:44:12,850 for their minerals and their natural gas especially, and also 1117 01:44:12,850 --> 01:44:16,375 they were trying to set up US bases that would ring the area and 1118 01:44:16,370 --> 01:44:21,100 control China, India and what had been the Soviet Union. 1119 01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:27,700 In 1997 two things happened: Zbigniew Brzezinski who had been the policy adviser under Carter, 1120 01:44:27,700 --> 01:44:30,650 he wrote The Grand Chessboard, and this is 1121 01:44:30,850 --> 01:44:34,150 an amazingly Machiavellian book that’s really worth reading 1122 01:44:34,150 --> 01:44:39,275 and basically he said that if you control the Middle East and the Caspian Sea area, you control the world because, 1123 01:44:39,625 --> 01:44:44,175 basically, you’re in the middle of Europe and China and Africa and Asia… 1124 01:44:44,250 --> 01:44:48,250 "To Dr. Brzezinski, I can’t say enough about 1125 01:44:49,275 --> 01:44:55,325 his contribution to our country. Somebody who has, 1126 01:44:55,400 --> 01:45:00,300 over decades, trained some of the most prominent 1127 01:45:00,375 --> 01:45:05,900 foreign policy specialists, not just in the Democratic Party but has trained a number 1128 01:45:05,900 --> 01:45:08,500 who ended up in the Republican Party as well. 1129 01:45:08,675 --> 01:45:12,575 He is one of our most outstanding scholars, 1130 01:45:12,570 --> 01:45:16,050 one of our most outstanding thinkers. 1131 01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:23,700 He has proven to be an outstanding friend and somebody who I’ve learned an immense amount from." 1132 01:45:33,875 --> 01:45:39,675 The last thing, of course, was the RAD: Rebuilding America’s Defenses put up by the Project for the New American Century, 1133 01:45:39,670 --> 01:45:45,400 which literally said: ‘"We reaffirm the values of the Defense Policy Guidance report 1134 01:45:45,575 --> 01:45:48,000 and are basically expanding it." 1135 01:45:48,125 --> 01:45:54,825 And it laid out everything, all the major policy changes that became the part of Bush’s war on terror. 1136 01:45:55,100 --> 01:46:00,600 Also, in that, they said we would need a new Pearl Harbor type incident in order to sell it. 1137 01:46:00,700 --> 01:46:04,800 The Taliban took over Kabul and established a government with, 1138 01:46:05,925 --> 01:46:09,475 and only with, the support of the US and the Saudi government. 1139 01:46:09,550 --> 01:46:12,350 The US was actively working with them. 1140 01:46:12,350 --> 01:46:15,375 Then the Taliban did two mistakes: 1141 01:46:15,450 --> 01:46:18,650 one was that they destroyed the poppy fields and banned heroin, 1142 01:46:19,050 --> 01:46:22,900 and the second thing that they did was that they 1143 01:46:23,125 --> 01:46:28,100 started demanding a fair share of the proceeds from the Unocal business. 1144 01:46:28,675 --> 01:46:34,225 The US, in July 2001, shortly before the 9/11 attacks told them: 1145 01:46:39,325 --> 01:46:43,650 Shortly after that the US started amassing aircraft carriers 1146 01:46:43,650 --> 01:46:47,875 and having military exercises all around Afghanistan - 1147 01:46:47,870 --> 01:46:51,650 the biggest buildup in the Caspian Sea area in history. 1148 01:46:51,825 --> 01:46:55,550 “Prior to 9/11?” Prior to 9/11. In the lead-up to 9/11. 1149 01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,950 So that, it was possible – that’s why it was possible 1150 01:46:58,950 --> 01:47:01,775 to launch the war against Afghanistan so soon. 1151 01:47:15,225 --> 01:47:17,125 "Mr. Vice President, 1152 01:47:17,525 --> 01:47:19,400 Mr. Speaker, 1153 01:47:20,125 --> 01:47:24,225 members of the Senate and the House of Representatives. 1154 01:47:25,625 --> 01:47:27,175 Yesterday, 1155 01:47:28,250 --> 01:47:32,925 December 7th, 1941 1156 01:47:34,650 --> 01:47:38,725 - a date which will live in infamy -" 1157 01:49:49,775 --> 01:49:52,700 "Chairman Hamid Karzai." 119828

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