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- In some ways, they made their
most ambitious record yet,
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and ambition is not
synonymous with record sales.
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(laughs) You know?
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I mean, this is not,
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this is a masterful,
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dense, artistic statement.
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It could bomb.
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(music rewinding)
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- I need more piano.
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- [Producer] Less noise?
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- [Jeff Tweedy] Less noise.
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- [Producer] Yeah, I
could take less noise.
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- [Glenn Kotche] One, two, three.
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# It's my father's voice, trailing off #
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# Sailors sailin' off in the morning #
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# For the air-conditioned rooms #
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# At top of the stairs #
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# His jaw's been broken #
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# And his bandage is wrapped too tight #
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# His fangs have been pulled #
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# And I really wanna see you tonight #
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No, I'm sorry.
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(rain pouring)
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(acoustic guitar strumming)
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# I am an American aquarium drinker #
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# I assassin down the avenue #
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# I'm hiding out in
the big city blinkin' #
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# What was I thinkin'
when I let go of you #
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# Let's forget about the
tongue-tied lightning #
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# Let's undress just like
cross-eyed strangers #
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# This is not a joke so
please stop smilin' #
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# What was I thinkin' when
I said it didn't hurt #
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# I wanna crawl through
those brown eyes dreamin' #
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# Take you from the inside #
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# Baby hold on tight #
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# But you were so right when
you said I been drinkin' #
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# What was I thinkin'
when we said goodnight #
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# I am tryin' to break your heart #
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# I am trying to break your heart #
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# Yet still I would be lying
if I said it wasn't easy #
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# I am trying to break your heart #
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- [Jeff] What are you doing?
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- Hello. (laughs)
- Hello.
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Welcome to our movie.
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We are going to be seeing lots of film
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about Wilco today.
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- I gotta say, we're pretty
lucky that I think Wilco
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is in a position
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where they can make the
record they wanna make.
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I mean, there is definitely...
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I don't know if I'd call it pressure,
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but there's definitely a feeling
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that this is sort of the moment.
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- [Jeff] They are very funny guys.
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- [Jay Bennett] (laughs)
Give him a cigarette.
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- [Jeff] Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I need a piece of gum.
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- I think,
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and of course hope,
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that this record is gonna
be a pretty big priority
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for Warner when it comes out,
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and you don't get that every
time you put a record out.
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- [Jeff] So, anyway, I was touring,
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was touring on the road with Wilco.
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(group laughs)
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Oh, here's your gum back.
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(drumsticks banging)
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(opening notes of Ashes of American Flags)
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- [Glenn] One, two...
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# The cash machine #
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# Is blue and green #
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# For a hundred in twenties #
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# And a small service fee #
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# I could spend three dollars #
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# And 63 cents #
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# On Diet Coca-Cola #
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# And unlit cigarettes #
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# I wonder why we listen to poets #
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# When nobody gives a fuck #
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# How hot and sorrowful, #
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# This machine begs for luck #
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# All my lies are always wishes #
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# I know I would die if
I could come back new #
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- You know, there are
two kinds of potential.
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There's artistic potential
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which I think for them is unlimited,
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and there is commercial potential
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which is really quite mysterious to us
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because there are so many factors
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that are out of your control,
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and we try not to think about it too much
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and just try, you know,
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try to make a great
record, and hope, and push
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the label to make the right decisions
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and do the right things
promotion-wise and so on.
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- This is an interactive band.
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These are four, five people, you know,
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who make music together,
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and the music wouldn't
sound the way it does
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unless these five people
are together in the room
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at the same time making the music.
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- It's a constant process.
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I mean, we make records and they're, um...
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That ends up being a thing,
you know, that you're making,
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and you have a million options
as to what that thing can be
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and what shape it can be.
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(drums banging)
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(piano playing)
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We generally go for a pretty
straight definitive version
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of what the song sounds like it should be,
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and then deconstruct it a little bit,
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and see if there's some more exciting way
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to approach it.
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# Echoes in my heart #
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# Gravel in my palm #
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There's no reason at all,
not to destroy it, you know?
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We made it, so it's ours to destroy,
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and that's liberating and
exciting in a really creative way.
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(upbeat music)
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# I need a camera #
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# To my eye #
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# To my eye, reminding #
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# Which lies have I been hiding #
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# Which echoes belong #
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# I'm counting out #
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# The days in Central Park #
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# With gravel in my heart #
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# With echoes in my palm #
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# Phone my family #
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# Tell 'em I'm lost on the sidewalk #
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# And no it's not okay #
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# I smashed a camera #
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# I wanna know why #
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# To my eyes, reminding #
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# Which lies have I been hiding #
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# Which echoes belong #
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# I'm counting out #
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# The days in Central Park #
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# With echoes in my heart #
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# With gravel in my palm #
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I think this record's more
of a leap for the band.
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This is probably the closest
to pure collaboration
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Wilco has ever got.
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- And personally, I'm really happy
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'cause Jeff and I have done
a lot of this stuff together.
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This is the first time
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that Jeff and I have
made a conscious effort
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to get together at the
loft and write songs.
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- Not that things don't
happen spontaneously
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with the Wilco recordings,
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but there is a lot of
conferring with each other,
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a lot of deliberation, a lot
of, like Jeff was talking,
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destroying what we've done,
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trying it from the backdoor,
turning it upside down.
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# I'm counting out #
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# The days to see how far #
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# I've driven in the dark #
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# With echoes in my heart #
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# Phone my family #
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# Tell 'em I'm lost on the sidewalk #
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# And no it's not okay #
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# No it's not okay #
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# No it's not okay #
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Uh, okay.
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- It's the first record
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where we've really done
everything ourselves.
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And now, we're engineering it ourselves,
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and we're doing it in our space.
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We're doing two seemingly
contradictory things.
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We're making a record in
a very relaxed environment
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with no outside input,
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but at the same time,
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we're accepting a certain kind of pressure
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that we're putting on ourselves.
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- I mean, it's nice not to
have a producer from Wilco
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because we're all, any one
of us, perfectly capable of
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directing or shaping a musical moment.
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- Everything is just kind of set up,
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I mean, to just keep making records.
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- I know it's cool to bitch
about your record label,
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you know?
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But, I mean, they're
letting us make a record
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in our loft, and they
haven't heard a word of it.
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(laughs)
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They're giving us $85,000,
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and they haven't heard a word it.
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You know? That's trust, right?
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They trust us.
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You're always playing the...
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You're pretty much doing one,
five, six, four on all the...
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A lot of times when you're playing,
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if you don't have any
sonic landscape behind you,
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everything turns into a folk song.
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That's pretty much what you do right?
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- Yeah.
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(guitar playing)
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- We just wanted it to not
sound like a little folk ditty,
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you know?
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So we wanted to have just
some kind of sonic weight
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under all of that, and uh,
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just something kinda weird and fucked up.
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# It's my father's voice trailing off #
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# Sailors sailing off in the morning #
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# For the air-conditioned rooms #
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# At the top of the stairs #
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- Tune the A string to a B flat and it...
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# It makes no difference to me #
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- And then you put them together,
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and you'll get some
really magical moments.
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# Cried all over, overseas #
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# When it's hot in the
poor places tonight #
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# I'm not going outside #
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- And we thought that might
be rhythmic enough to play to.
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(drums banging)
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# There's bourbon on the breath #
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# Of the singer you love #
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- It's kind of, along with
some of the more noise tracks,
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but it's rhythmic, so it's something
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that they can play along to.
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# He takes all his words from the books #
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# That you don't read anyway #
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- It's about three in the morning.
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We're either gonna get something great
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or lose our fucking minds.
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All these things are just
blaring in here, you know?
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That's when it all kind of exploded.
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# They cried all over, overseas #
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# It makes no difference to me #
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# When it's hot in the
poor places tonight #
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# I'm not going outside #
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(piano playing)
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# And it takes all the breath out of me #
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# When I cry all over, overseas #
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# When it's hot in the
poor places tonight #
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# I'm not going outside #
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# It's hot in the poor places tonight #
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# I'm not going outside #
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# I'm not going outside #
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# I'm not going outside #
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(instruments blaring)
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- [Female Shortwave Radio
Voice] Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.
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Yankee
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Hotel
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Foxtrot.
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Yankee
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Hotel
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Foxtrot.
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(car honking)
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(harmonica playing)
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- Hey, how you doing, man?
- Good to see you.
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- (speaking in Spanish)
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One, two, three.
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One, two, three, call it Rock and...
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So, with the community
that you are doing now,
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did you play music...
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Do you think that your music
reaches out to the children
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who don't have a fighting chance?
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- Um...
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# The moment you know ... #
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# It's not even half as nice as you #
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# Set my sights on one whispery kiss. #
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I'll sign that.
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If you know how to spell Simone.
- S-I-M-O-N-E?
264
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- [Tony] That sounds like right, yeah.
265
00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,163
- [Jeff] Real pal.
266
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- Your record...
267
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I have an idea.
268
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Does it come out on compact disc?
269
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- Mmhmm.
270
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# Dreamed about killing
you again last night #
271
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# And it felt all right to me #
272
00:17:26,357 --> 00:17:30,586
# Dying on the banks
of Embarcadero skies #
273
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# I sat and watched you bleed #
274
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- Seriously, let's just do a lot
275
00:17:35,698 --> 00:17:37,860
of good crowd control tonight, and,
276
00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:39,330
you know, bring up the
whole political thing.
277
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Just fucking...
278
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Yeah, the whole thing
about women's rights,
279
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lesbian's rights, and stuff like that.
280
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- I'm gonna play to it.
281
00:17:46,824 --> 00:17:47,830
I'm gonna play to the crowd.
282
00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:50,077
- Cool.
- There's um--
283
00:17:50,077 --> 00:17:52,870
- 'Cause you know, I mean,
the DOW is down about 30%,
284
00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:55,125
you know, and soon as I
looked at that I just knew
285
00:17:55,125 --> 00:17:58,285
that we know what kinda
position you're in and stuff.
286
00:17:58,285 --> 00:18:00,358
- I've gotta kiss some major ass to...
287
00:18:00,358 --> 00:18:02,320
You know to get it...
288
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,410
To get... my portfolio back together.
289
00:18:04,410 --> 00:18:07,094
- Totally, totally.
- You know?
290
00:18:07,094 --> 00:18:09,230
I have...
- I hear you, man.
291
00:18:09,230 --> 00:18:10,063
Totally.
292
00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:12,920
- I canned my stockbroker.
293
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,710
- Yeah.
- Two weeks ago.
294
00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:17,044
- How's the place out
in the Hampton's, good?
295
00:18:17,044 --> 00:18:18,510
- Hmm, it's a fixer upper.
296
00:18:18,510 --> 00:18:21,130
I mean, the pool is shit.
297
00:18:21,130 --> 00:18:22,350
It's gotta be replaced.
- Spielberg told me,
298
00:18:22,350 --> 00:18:23,580
he told me, "I went over to Jeff's,"
299
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you know, 'cause he knows
that your fucking music
300
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:26,520
is all big bullshit thing.
301
00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,353
- Right.
- And he was just like,
302
00:18:27,353 --> 00:18:28,763
"I saw his fucking pool," you know,
303
00:18:28,763 --> 00:18:30,940
and he was just, uh...
304
00:18:30,940 --> 00:18:31,773
He's funny.
305
00:18:31,773 --> 00:18:33,575
You know, he reminds me a lot of you.
306
00:18:33,575 --> 00:18:34,742
You are stupid
307
00:18:35,836 --> 00:18:39,419
(music drowns out speaker)
308
00:18:40,423 --> 00:18:43,566
Was that mean or racist, you would say?
309
00:18:43,566 --> 00:18:48,566
# Snipers are harder to see my friends #
310
00:18:51,396 --> 00:18:56,396
# Weeding out your weekend #
311
00:19:00,968 --> 00:19:04,509
# Summer comes and gravity undoes you #
312
00:19:04,509 --> 00:19:09,509
# You're happy because the
lovely way the sunshine bends #
313
00:19:12,458 --> 00:19:14,418
# Hiding from your close friends #
314
00:19:14,418 --> 00:19:16,378
# Weeding out your weekends #
315
00:19:16,378 --> 00:19:19,128
(crowd cheering)
316
00:19:24,328 --> 00:19:28,045
# Candy left over from Halloween #
317
00:19:28,045 --> 00:19:32,197
# A unified theory of everything #
318
00:19:32,197 --> 00:19:36,138
# Love left over from lovers leaving #
319
00:19:36,138 --> 00:19:41,138
# Books, they all know
they're not worth reading #
320
00:19:43,018 --> 00:19:46,400
# It's not for the season #
321
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,608
That's a...
322
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(crowd cheering)
323
00:19:49,168 --> 00:19:54,168
One of the new songs.
324
00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:01,663
From our upcoming Wilco record.
325
00:20:05,557 --> 00:20:08,418
We sound nothing like that
326
00:20:08,418 --> 00:20:09,585
on the record.
327
00:20:13,060 --> 00:20:14,060
Poetry?
328
00:20:14,060 --> 00:20:16,858
Are you saying that my lyrics are poetry?
329
00:20:16,858 --> 00:20:18,770
(crowd laughs)
330
00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:19,683
I like you.
331
00:20:25,357 --> 00:20:28,824
Here's some more poetry
for you. (crowd laughs)
332
00:20:30,858 --> 00:20:33,960
- I wanted to go out and
play some shows acoustically.
333
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,443
It seemed like a good time to do it.
334
00:20:35,443 --> 00:20:37,480
We haven't really toured for awhile,
335
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,370
and record's still being made,
336
00:20:39,370 --> 00:20:40,980
and took a little break from the record
337
00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:43,953
to go play some music
and see how things go.
338
00:20:45,178 --> 00:20:48,595
(Jeff playing harmonica)
339
00:21:03,004 --> 00:21:08,004
# There are rows and rows of houses #
340
00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:14,602
# With windows painted blue #
341
00:21:18,114 --> 00:21:23,114
# With the light from the TV #
342
00:21:26,902 --> 00:21:31,902
# Running parallel to you #
343
00:21:35,344 --> 00:21:40,344
# There is no sunken treasure #
344
00:21:44,244 --> 00:21:46,911
# Rumored to be #
345
00:21:51,790 --> 00:21:53,483
- Jeff, you remember Scott?
346
00:21:53,483 --> 00:21:54,401
- How are you?
347
00:21:54,401 --> 00:21:55,234
Yeah, how you doing?
348
00:21:55,234 --> 00:21:57,254
- Great job, man.
- Well thanks.
349
00:21:57,254 --> 00:21:58,087
Watch out.
350
00:21:58,087 --> 00:21:59,203
- Know my friend Sarah?
351
00:21:59,203 --> 00:22:01,031
- Yeah, yeah.
352
00:22:01,031 --> 00:22:06,031
# In a sea #
353
00:22:09,203 --> 00:22:11,302
# Black with ink #
354
00:22:11,302 --> 00:22:12,739
- Nice to meet you, I work at WEA.
355
00:22:12,739 --> 00:22:15,465
- Hey, thank you.
- Jeff, looks great.
356
00:22:15,465 --> 00:22:17,956
- This is the WEA contigent.
- Mitch? Alright.
357
00:22:17,956 --> 00:22:19,354
All WEA folks?
358
00:22:19,354 --> 00:22:21,187
- Not all.
359
00:22:21,187 --> 00:22:22,795
Hoyt, from Last Record Store
360
00:22:22,795 --> 00:22:24,423
in Santa Rosa, California.
361
00:22:24,423 --> 00:22:25,602
- Pushing Wilco all the way.
362
00:22:25,602 --> 00:22:26,435
- All right.
363
00:22:26,435 --> 00:22:31,373
# Fold it over #
364
00:22:31,373 --> 00:22:36,373
# If I had a boat #
365
00:22:39,647 --> 00:22:44,647
# I'd probably #
366
00:22:47,807 --> 00:22:50,150
# Roll over #
367
00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:51,907
- Hey, is the new record more like,
368
00:22:52,937 --> 00:22:54,210
is it gonna be more like A.M.,
369
00:22:54,210 --> 00:22:58,650
or is it gonna be more like Summerteeth?
370
00:22:58,650 --> 00:23:01,450
- Uh, it's really not
that much like either one
371
00:23:01,450 --> 00:23:02,520
of those records,
372
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,000
I don't think, so.
- Ooh. Really?
373
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:11,230
# Surely there's somebody #
374
00:23:12,590 --> 00:23:17,590
# Who needs #
375
00:23:19,874 --> 00:23:20,707
# It more than me #
376
00:23:20,707 --> 00:23:22,244
- [Fan] It sounded like it was
a trip hop album or something
377
00:23:22,244 --> 00:23:24,330
with tape loops and samples.
378
00:23:24,330 --> 00:23:25,190
- There are those things,
379
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:27,907
but it's not like a trip hop record.
380
00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:33,726
# I am so #
381
00:23:33,726 --> 00:23:38,227
# I am so #
382
00:23:38,227 --> 00:23:43,227
# Out of tune #
383
00:23:46,606 --> 00:23:51,606
# I am so #
384
00:23:51,684 --> 00:23:55,747
# Out of tune #
385
00:23:55,747 --> 00:23:57,997
# With you #
386
00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:05,970
I'm happy with it, and
we're almost done with it,
387
00:24:05,970 --> 00:24:10,035
so just have to wait another month or so.
388
00:24:10,035 --> 00:24:11,740
Month or two months.
389
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:13,710
- And you guys are gonna
tour on that straight away?
390
00:24:13,710 --> 00:24:15,641
- Maybe, I don't know.
391
00:24:16,910 --> 00:24:19,300
Well, hopefully it'll come out in July.
392
00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:20,310
It's, um...
393
00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:26,857
It's got a lot of the drums and holes,
394
00:24:26,857 --> 00:24:29,323
and holes in the songs.
395
00:24:32,495 --> 00:24:34,350
- [Sarah] (laughs) So you're like,
396
00:24:34,350 --> 00:24:35,690
is Courtney Love in them? (laughs)
397
00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:37,107
- No.
- No.
398
00:24:39,454 --> 00:24:41,550
- [Sarah] Sorry.
399
00:24:41,550 --> 00:24:44,840
- Open spaces between
what's supposed to be
400
00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:47,153
the music part.
401
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,990
I don't know.
402
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:51,036
I'm gone.
403
00:24:51,036 --> 00:24:53,619
(group laughs)
404
00:25:00,789 --> 00:25:03,979
# All #
405
00:25:03,979 --> 00:25:07,949
# Will #
406
00:25:07,949 --> 00:25:12,691
# Return #
407
00:25:12,691 --> 00:25:17,691
# Music is my savior #
408
00:25:20,469 --> 00:25:25,469
# I was maimed by rock and roll #
409
00:25:27,869 --> 00:25:32,869
# I got my name #
410
00:25:36,171 --> 00:25:39,531
# From rock and roll #
411
00:25:39,531 --> 00:25:42,281
(crowd cheering)
412
00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:58,278
(phone dialing)
413
00:25:58,278 --> 00:25:59,944
- [Voice Over Speaker] Yeah, who are you?
414
00:25:59,944 --> 00:26:01,277
- Uh, it's Jeff.
415
00:26:02,718 --> 00:26:05,135
(door beeps)
416
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:08,133
- Cool?
417
00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:09,943
- Yeah, seems fine.
- Great, that's exactly
418
00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:11,880
the mix you'll have out there.
419
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,547
(cello playing)
420
00:26:16,248 --> 00:26:20,848
# How can I convince you,
it's me I don't like #
421
00:26:20,848 --> 00:26:25,726
# And not be so indifferent
to the look in your eyes #
422
00:26:25,726 --> 00:26:28,349
# When I've always been distant #
423
00:26:28,349 --> 00:26:33,349
# And I've always told lies for love #
424
00:26:35,717 --> 00:26:40,717
# I know this isn't what
you were wanting me to say #
425
00:26:40,829 --> 00:26:45,626
# How can I be closer
and get further away #
426
00:26:45,626 --> 00:26:50,626
# From the truth that proves
it's beautiful to lie #
427
00:26:55,819 --> 00:26:58,908
# I've #
428
00:26:58,908 --> 00:27:03,908
# Got reservations #
429
00:27:04,697 --> 00:27:07,806
# About so many things #
430
00:27:07,806 --> 00:27:10,806
# But not about you #
431
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,691
- And then maybe...
432
00:27:13,691 --> 00:27:16,358
(cello playing)
433
00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:28,252
It's not bad, I don't know, you know.
434
00:27:28,252 --> 00:27:29,085
It's...
435
00:27:29,085 --> 00:27:30,555
- Sure.
436
00:27:30,555 --> 00:27:31,416
- [Jay] Yeah.
437
00:27:31,416 --> 00:27:32,347
- [Producer] It's only a single.
438
00:27:32,347 --> 00:27:33,736
- It's the first time where he does
439
00:27:33,736 --> 00:27:36,915
# I've gotta reservation #
440
00:27:36,915 --> 00:27:37,748
- So yeah.
441
00:27:37,748 --> 00:27:39,756
Yeah, the first one is the double one.
442
00:27:39,756 --> 00:27:42,339
(somber music)
443
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,033
- Okay. (laughs)
444
00:27:57,705 --> 00:27:59,520
- [Jay] Doug, I think he's
gonna stay away from--
445
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,353
- What's that?
446
00:28:02,090 --> 00:28:03,173
Uh, I guess,
447
00:28:04,130 --> 00:28:05,913
next four or five days.
448
00:28:08,430 --> 00:28:09,503
Yeah, we're mixing.
449
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:12,563
I'm not at the loft.
450
00:28:13,770 --> 00:28:14,823
I'm at the studio.
451
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,473
Tony's here.
452
00:28:21,597 --> 00:28:22,430
All right.
453
00:28:27,587 --> 00:28:28,420
All right.
454
00:28:29,605 --> 00:28:31,939
Well, I'll call you later.
455
00:28:37,810 --> 00:28:38,793
Pajama day?
456
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,490
- This is like,
457
00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:48,610
this is the record that needs to
458
00:28:49,580 --> 00:28:51,330
take the band to another level.
459
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:53,140
If that didn't happen,
460
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:57,390
it would be a tragic, sort
of missed opportunity,
461
00:28:57,390 --> 00:28:59,523
and that it would damage the band.
462
00:29:02,390 --> 00:29:05,180
- I think every record I've ever made,
463
00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:07,796
somebody has said, this is the big one.
464
00:29:07,796 --> 00:29:09,910
(laughs) You guys are gonna be huge,
465
00:29:09,910 --> 00:29:14,250
and when I saw the
reality of the situation,
466
00:29:14,250 --> 00:29:17,759
I felt a little dumb for believing it.
467
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,094
# Make no difference ever known #
468
00:29:20,094 --> 00:29:22,970
# It made no difference ever known to me #
469
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:25,941
- [Jay Voiceover] We do
have a new A&R guy, Neil.
470
00:29:25,941 --> 00:29:28,900
He's really younger and
cooler than our last guy,
471
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:29,733
so who knows.
472
00:29:29,733 --> 00:29:32,310
Maybe he'll come in and
say something really cool,
473
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:33,143
you know?
474
00:29:33,143 --> 00:29:33,976
Maybe he'll be great.
475
00:29:38,339 --> 00:29:40,187
# I'm the man who loves you #
476
00:29:40,187 --> 00:29:41,170
- I think this sounds great.
477
00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:43,370
- Yeah, it's just a different song...
478
00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:44,770
Do you wanna hear the new one again?
479
00:29:44,770 --> 00:29:47,230
- Can you guys tell me what it is
480
00:29:47,230 --> 00:29:48,390
about the drums sounds on this
481
00:29:48,390 --> 00:29:49,990
that's not happening?
482
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:52,780
You said you can't get a good snare sound?
483
00:29:52,780 --> 00:29:54,198
- [Glenn] We can't brighten them up.
484
00:29:54,198 --> 00:29:57,450
- I think that's what's
kinda cool about it.
485
00:29:57,450 --> 00:29:58,829
They're murky sounding, you know?
486
00:29:58,829 --> 00:30:00,303
- This is all you can get out of them.
487
00:30:00,303 --> 00:30:01,340
- I think it's great.
488
00:30:01,340 --> 00:30:03,550
- If the overall song feels good to you,
489
00:30:03,550 --> 00:30:05,640
you're gonna fall in love
with the little parts of it
490
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,613
that are fucked up.
491
00:30:08,194 --> 00:30:09,210
To sum up what I'm thinking,
492
00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:10,870
you can't change one piece of the puzzle.
493
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:11,703
- Right.
494
00:30:11,703 --> 00:30:14,380
- I don't think well-defined bright drums
495
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:17,470
with presence and definition would serve
496
00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:19,490
the feel of that song.
497
00:30:19,490 --> 00:30:22,100
- You know, it's a $150 an hour argument,
498
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,503
but that's okay. (laughs)
499
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,800
- Whatever they lack, I'd
say are actually a virtue
500
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,900
in this cut.
501
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:34,070
- If we go with this new one,
there is more redoing than
502
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:38,190
Jeff thought before he left, for instance.
503
00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:40,660
What is coming up right
now is exactly what came up
504
00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:43,140
when I first started talking
to Jeff about it which was,
505
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:46,563
I think this does create a domino effect.
506
00:30:48,110 --> 00:30:50,400
- Did anyone have any
problem with this song
507
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,800
until last night when you started to
508
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,170
try to EQ the snare?
- Yes, absolutely. Always.
509
00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:55,373
Always since day one.
510
00:30:56,390 --> 00:30:59,700
- Maybe we should mix
stuff that we know is done.
511
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:01,680
- There is no fucking pressure, man.
512
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,490
This is day two in the studio
513
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:04,323
for this record.
- Three.
514
00:31:04,323 --> 00:31:05,156
- Three, okay.
515
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:08,443
- (laughs) That's still all the pressure.
516
00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:11,467
I just know if we mix both
of these, we're gonna go,
517
00:31:11,467 --> 00:31:12,750
"Neither one's it."
518
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:13,730
I just know it.
519
00:31:13,730 --> 00:31:15,450
- I think it'd be great if we just mixed
520
00:31:15,450 --> 00:31:17,700
and leave all tracking for the loft.
521
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:18,910
Honestly.
522
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:20,620
- [Producer] Jeff's on his way down.
523
00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:22,743
- Oh, alert the media.
524
00:31:22,743 --> 00:31:24,463
(laughs) Has he been,
525
00:31:24,463 --> 00:31:26,255
was he alerted to the situation?
526
00:31:26,255 --> 00:31:28,250
- [Producer] No, he just
called for a status report.
527
00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:30,353
- Oh, and you said status not good?
528
00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:34,260
- We had a little bit of a work stoppage.
529
00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:37,240
A grinding, you know, grinding to a halt.
530
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,073
Like, well hold on,
531
00:31:38,073 --> 00:31:39,169
"What exactly is the...
532
00:31:39,169 --> 00:31:40,350
"how are we supposed to do this?"
533
00:31:40,350 --> 00:31:44,690
We're like, really readjusting
to how things are gonna work
534
00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:46,430
when we're in a different environment
535
00:31:46,430 --> 00:31:49,070
from our luxurious
536
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:50,780
little dream world.
537
00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:54,150
We're spending $1,000 a day to be here.
538
00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:56,710
Anytime we get stumped from here on out,
539
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:58,920
we should just move on.
540
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,190
- That's what we're deciding.
- Yeah.
541
00:32:00,190 --> 00:32:03,660
- Yeah, I think we've
all kind of decided that.
542
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:05,920
I think, like, I don't
wanna mix them both.
543
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,250
At the same time, I don't
wanna get too hung up on this.
544
00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:09,613
It's an important decision.
545
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,553
Oops, we happened to make
it the day we were here.
546
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:17,300
Or not make it, you know,
whatever, let's move on.
547
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:18,133
You know?
548
00:32:18,133 --> 00:32:21,070
We spent a $1,000 in
stupider ways in this band.
549
00:32:21,070 --> 00:32:23,630
Like all that blow in
Amsterdam, that was...
550
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:26,140
- Oh, I must've missed out on that.
551
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:30,220
- There's more pressure on Jeff,
552
00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:34,040
you know, externally and self-imposed.
553
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,893
I think,
554
00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:39,110
he is aware that...
555
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:40,750
the success...
556
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:41,983
or failure,
557
00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:44,570
artistically, primarily,
558
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:47,643
of the record, reflects mostly on him.
559
00:32:48,503 --> 00:32:51,086
(choral music)
560
00:32:56,447 --> 00:32:58,607
- Cut, then the real mix
of Heavy Metal Drummer.
561
00:32:58,607 --> 00:32:59,973
- All right, why couldn't we do that
562
00:32:59,973 --> 00:33:02,710
when we were mixing Heavy Metal Drummer?
563
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:03,920
- Well, why not do it now?
564
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,930
- Because we gotta go
offline, unmute everything
565
00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:09,480
to find out what track that thing's on.
566
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,020
- Can't you just look and see
what track it comes up on?
567
00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:15,750
- Yeah, but I don't know if
it's just one track or two--
568
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:17,570
- Okay, I--
- Or what part of the kit
569
00:33:17,570 --> 00:33:18,590
it is.
570
00:33:18,590 --> 00:33:20,087
- How would we do it,
571
00:33:20,087 --> 00:33:22,035
how would we overlap it
mixing it separately?
572
00:33:22,035 --> 00:33:23,051
Just out of curiosity.
- Well, we just say
573
00:33:23,051 --> 00:33:25,460
the orchestra at the top
of Heavy Metal Drummer
574
00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:27,180
is there.
- Mmhmm.
575
00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:29,010
It wouldn't have to be a mastering thing?
576
00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:32,310
- Well, no 'cause the orchestra
is in Heavy Metal Drummer
577
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:33,660
at the top of Heavy Metal Drummer.
578
00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:35,280
- Okay.
- But, it seems,
579
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,748
that seems backwards to me.
580
00:33:36,748 --> 00:33:39,620
Why not mix it up to the cut point
581
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:43,160
instead of trying to mix the other one
582
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,013
from a new starting point?
583
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:48,993
Why not mix it to the edit?
584
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,113
You know what I mean?
585
00:33:52,113 --> 00:33:54,110
Instead of making a new edit
586
00:33:54,110 --> 00:33:56,420
for when we mix Heavy Metal Drummer?
587
00:33:56,420 --> 00:33:58,330
- All right, to me
588
00:33:59,910 --> 00:34:02,000
it's the exact same thing.
589
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,590
You mix one up to here or
you start the other mix here.
590
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:07,779
Mix, start.
591
00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:10,000
(Jay humming)
592
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,480
- Right there.
- All right.
593
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:14,610
I didn't know that you wanted it to sound
594
00:34:14,610 --> 00:34:16,210
exactly like it does here.
595
00:34:16,210 --> 00:34:18,570
I thought you wanted it to be the noise
596
00:34:18,570 --> 00:34:22,420
going over whatever was really
on Heavy Metal Drummer there.
597
00:34:22,420 --> 00:34:23,253
See what I'm saying?
598
00:34:23,253 --> 00:34:26,080
- I don't want the orchestra
to go into Heavy Metal Drummer.
599
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,370
It cuts right there.
600
00:34:27,370 --> 00:34:28,830
- Right, and I...
601
00:34:28,830 --> 00:34:30,880
Okay, okay, let me try to explain myself.
602
00:34:32,356 --> 00:34:33,340
I didn't know that you--
603
00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:35,500
- This is taking a lot
longer than doing one mute.
604
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:37,840
- I know, but can I
explain myself, please?
605
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,630
I didn't know until now
that you wanted it to start
606
00:34:40,630 --> 00:34:45,630
with a little kit, (Jay humming) big kit.
607
00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:47,327
- Well, we can do it both ways, I mean--
608
00:34:47,327 --> 00:34:48,627
- No, I don't give a shit.
609
00:34:49,968 --> 00:34:51,780
You misunderstood what I was saying.
610
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:54,570
I assumed, apparently wrong,
611
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:59,240
that it was noise until
Heavy Metal Drummer started,
612
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:03,940
but now I understand that
it's orchestra until a subset
613
00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:08,160
of Heavy Metal Drummer starts,
then two measures later,
614
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,490
Heavy Metal Drummer really starts, right?
615
00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:12,550
- Sure.
- Okay, I didn't know that.
616
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:13,527
I thought we were just saying,
617
00:35:13,527 --> 00:35:15,727
"Hey, that would be cool
if the noise went right up
618
00:35:15,727 --> 00:35:17,160
"to Heavy Metal Drummer."
619
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,210
Does that make sense?
620
00:35:19,695 --> 00:35:21,060
- Whatever. Yeah, I don't know,
621
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:23,130
I don't know what the problem is.
622
00:35:23,130 --> 00:35:23,963
I don't.
623
00:35:23,963 --> 00:35:25,340
- I just want you to understand me,
624
00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:26,330
like understand why I was thinking--
625
00:35:26,330 --> 00:35:27,260
- Why's it so important?
626
00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:29,142
I don't have to understand
you all the time.
627
00:35:29,142 --> 00:35:30,392
(laughs) Like, it's okay.
628
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,650
I don't... we found it, and we can do it.
629
00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:39,510
- Okay, it seems to me like
you're making a big deal
630
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:42,152
out of not wanting to... (laughs)
631
00:35:42,152 --> 00:35:42,985
- Not wanting to?
632
00:35:42,985 --> 00:35:45,530
Okay, I've just been
sitting here trying to--
633
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:46,710
- I'm just saying--
- I've been listening
634
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:48,201
to you explain yourself.
635
00:35:48,201 --> 00:35:49,430
- [Jay] And do you understand it.
636
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:51,510
- Sure, I understand it.
637
00:35:52,392 --> 00:35:53,572
- Okay, why couldn't you just say,
638
00:35:53,572 --> 00:35:55,080
"I understand what you're saying."
639
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,270
- I did.
640
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:57,892
- [Producer] So it's
gonna be a drum group.
641
00:35:57,892 --> 00:35:59,592
- Two seconds ago you said,
"Why is it so important
642
00:35:59,592 --> 00:36:01,090
"that I understand you?"
643
00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:03,340
- Well, because it doesn't seem like
644
00:36:03,340 --> 00:36:06,204
you were gonna let me understand you.
645
00:36:06,204 --> 00:36:09,269
(group talking drowns out speaker)
646
00:36:09,269 --> 00:36:10,102
- Is it,
647
00:36:10,102 --> 00:36:15,102
I'm honestly, I thought that was an idea.
648
00:36:18,177 --> 00:36:22,766
Jeff, I don't wanna be
understood about the concept,
649
00:36:22,766 --> 00:36:26,347
I want you to understand what
the misunderstanding was.
650
00:36:26,347 --> 00:36:31,347
- I think I'm gonna throw up.
651
00:36:34,827 --> 00:36:37,744
(Jeff throwing up)
652
00:36:42,087 --> 00:36:43,316
# Done all I could do #
653
00:36:43,316 --> 00:36:45,425
# And I said all I can say #
654
00:36:45,425 --> 00:36:48,118
# I'll tell it to your
mother next pay day #
655
00:36:48,118 --> 00:36:52,448
# I'll tell it to your
mother next pay day #
656
00:36:52,448 --> 00:36:55,281
(toilet flushing)
657
00:37:00,907 --> 00:37:04,398
# I got no sugar baby now #
658
00:37:04,398 --> 00:37:05,857
# I've said all I can say #
659
00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:07,987
# And I've done all I can do #
660
00:37:07,987 --> 00:37:11,378
# I can't along with you #
661
00:37:11,378 --> 00:37:12,590
- [Cameraman] Is it the medication?
662
00:37:12,590 --> 00:37:14,323
- No, I just throw up all the time
663
00:37:14,323 --> 00:37:16,650
when I have migraines.
664
00:37:16,650 --> 00:37:18,200
When I was a kid, I threw up...
665
00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:22,960
I used to throw up like
30 times in a night
666
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,813
and get put in the
hospital for dehydration.
667
00:37:30,537 --> 00:37:31,870
Ah, that feels better.
668
00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:36,161
You're right, it's six of
one half dozen of another.
669
00:37:36,161 --> 00:37:37,980
I'm sorry.
- Damn, I guess
670
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:39,530
I wasn't explaining myself.
671
00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:40,363
See we have to,
672
00:37:40,363 --> 00:37:44,300
now we have to do all our
outro mutes on everything else.
673
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:46,180
- Why? Because you cut it?
- Because we...
674
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:49,610
Well, 'cause we have a
bunch of other things open
675
00:37:50,479 --> 00:37:51,312
still.
- But won't it,
676
00:37:51,312 --> 00:37:52,145
it just cuts right there?
677
00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:53,610
- No, but up to there.
678
00:37:53,610 --> 00:37:54,443
You know what I mean?
- Oh, right.
679
00:37:54,443 --> 00:37:55,276
- Up to there.
680
00:37:55,276 --> 00:37:57,596
- Well, we would've had to do that anyway.
681
00:37:57,596 --> 00:37:59,180
- Yeah, some of that we would've, yeah.
682
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:00,530
But I was, yeah.
683
00:38:00,530 --> 00:38:02,660
I was just thinking we'd just start
684
00:38:02,660 --> 00:38:04,138
Heavy Metal Drummer that way,
685
00:38:04,138 --> 00:38:06,971
was what I was thinking, you know?
686
00:38:15,757 --> 00:38:17,870
I'm cool, I'm totally cool, all right?
687
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:18,703
It's over.
688
00:38:18,703 --> 00:38:21,390
- Right now, um,
689
00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:25,260
Reprise Records is in a
pretty serious state of flux
690
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:27,300
which I'm a bit nervous about.
691
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:28,270
You know? I mean, I'm not worried
692
00:38:28,270 --> 00:38:29,813
about the record not coming out.
693
00:38:29,813 --> 00:38:30,840
- No, no, no.
The record will come out,
694
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,790
but you don't know whether
we're gonna be getting
695
00:38:33,790 --> 00:38:37,320
the same sort of enthusiasm out of whoever
696
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,857
the replacement person is.
697
00:38:38,857 --> 00:38:41,280
- Right.
- It's just mystery.
698
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,197
- If we do it,
699
00:38:42,197 --> 00:38:43,247
let's do...
- What about Must be High
700
00:38:43,247 --> 00:38:44,562
or Casino Queen?
701
00:38:44,562 --> 00:38:45,980
- Nah.
702
00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:47,710
- I'm just thinking in
terms of rockers, man.
703
00:38:47,710 --> 00:38:48,696
- Yeah.
704
00:38:48,696 --> 00:38:50,310
- (laughs) If we got easy rockers,
705
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:51,410
we should probably...
706
00:38:52,292 --> 00:38:53,716
- I don't wanna do that anymore.
707
00:38:53,716 --> 00:38:55,241
- Should I write any of those three?
708
00:38:55,241 --> 00:38:56,530
- [Jay] You don't wanna rock?
709
00:38:56,530 --> 00:38:57,500
- What did you say?
710
00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:58,333
- No, I don't wanna just fall back
711
00:38:58,333 --> 00:38:59,780
on a bunch of easy rockers.
712
00:38:59,780 --> 00:39:00,613
- No, no.
713
00:39:00,613 --> 00:39:02,310
I'm just thinking with
four days to practice
714
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:03,357
and four shows.
715
00:39:03,357 --> 00:39:04,939
- [Glenn] One, two,
716
00:39:04,939 --> 00:39:06,728
one, two, three, four.
717
00:39:06,728 --> 00:39:09,728
(upbeat rock music)
718
00:39:15,011 --> 00:39:20,011
# Why, I wonder, is my
heart full of holes #
719
00:39:21,957 --> 00:39:26,957
# And the feeling goes but
my hair keeps growing #
720
00:39:29,495 --> 00:39:34,285
# Will I set, the sun #
721
00:39:34,285 --> 00:39:38,127
# On a big-wheeled wagon #
722
00:39:38,127 --> 00:39:40,007
# I'm bragging #
723
00:39:40,007 --> 00:39:45,007
# I'm always in love #
724
00:39:49,166 --> 00:39:54,166
# When I let go of your
throat, sweet throttle #
725
00:39:57,126 --> 00:40:02,126
# When I clean the lash
of your black belt model #
726
00:40:03,984 --> 00:40:08,945
# Will I catch the moon #
727
00:40:08,945 --> 00:40:12,986
# Like a bird in a cage #
728
00:40:12,986 --> 00:40:14,975
# It's for you I swoon #
729
00:40:14,975 --> 00:40:19,975
# I'm always in love #
730
00:40:24,445 --> 00:40:28,304
# I don't get the connection #
731
00:40:28,304 --> 00:40:32,136
# This is only a test #
732
00:40:32,136 --> 00:40:36,034
# Hope I do my best #
733
00:40:36,034 --> 00:40:39,534
# You know I won't forget #
734
00:40:55,026 --> 00:41:00,026
# Fold the cold in my jet-lag palm #
735
00:41:02,386 --> 00:41:07,386
# When I soak so long I forget my mother #
736
00:41:09,906 --> 00:41:14,906
# Will I set, the sun #
737
00:41:14,914 --> 00:41:18,643
# On a big-wheeled wagon #
738
00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:20,594
# I'm bragging #
739
00:41:20,594 --> 00:41:25,594
# I'm always in love #
740
00:41:26,403 --> 00:41:28,314
# Drag I snag #
741
00:41:28,314 --> 00:41:33,314
# I'm always in love #
742
00:41:34,234 --> 00:41:36,346
# I'm worried #
743
00:41:36,346 --> 00:41:39,429
# I'm always in love #
744
00:41:46,466 --> 00:41:50,365
# I'm worried, I'm worried #
745
00:41:50,365 --> 00:41:54,175
# I'm worried I'm always in love #
746
00:41:54,175 --> 00:41:58,134
# I'm worried, I'm worried #
747
00:41:58,134 --> 00:42:02,034
# I'm worried I'm always in love #
748
00:42:02,034 --> 00:42:05,826
# I'm worried, I'm worried #
749
00:42:05,826 --> 00:42:09,725
# I'm worried I'm always in love #
750
00:42:09,725 --> 00:42:13,554
# I'm worried, I'm worried #
751
00:42:13,554 --> 00:42:18,554
# I'm worried that I'm always in love #
752
00:42:18,655 --> 00:42:22,525
# Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo #
753
00:42:22,525 --> 00:42:26,274
# Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo #
754
00:42:26,274 --> 00:42:30,151
# Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo #
755
00:42:30,151 --> 00:42:33,068
# Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo #
756
00:42:37,643 --> 00:42:39,020
- I'd go either way.
757
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:40,970
- When this record
ended up being finished,
758
00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:43,490
it actually felt fresher to me
759
00:42:43,490 --> 00:42:47,840
than it had felt for
months after we did a bulk
760
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,900
of the recording, you know, over a year
761
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:55,160
or so, and somewhere towards
the end of that year,
762
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,070
it got to be kind of
nit-picking and going back
763
00:42:59,070 --> 00:43:01,840
and re-tracking songs and knowing exactly
764
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,870
what we were going for,
765
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:05,383
less exploratory, and,
766
00:43:06,730 --> 00:43:09,020
and that was starting to get kinda rough
767
00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:11,350
by the time we went to CRC to mix.
768
00:43:11,350 --> 00:43:16,350
- We got bogged down in certain
things like redoing drums.
769
00:43:16,766 --> 00:43:17,650
- Right.
- You know, certain calls
770
00:43:17,650 --> 00:43:20,050
that were good that helped us later on,
771
00:43:20,050 --> 00:43:23,980
but for whatever reason,
it just bogged down.
772
00:43:23,980 --> 00:43:27,990
- Doing the record, the
final mixes, at Soma
773
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:32,220
and hearing them through
Jim O'Rourke's ears,
774
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:36,310
actually hearing it with
someone who was coming at it
775
00:43:36,310 --> 00:43:38,900
with some fresh perspective,
776
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:43,580
and being able to collaborate
on the final mixes,
777
00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:46,060
kinda like, well, we're
kinda throwing everything
778
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:46,893
out the window,
779
00:43:46,893 --> 00:43:48,180
but we're also kinda getting back
780
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:50,020
to what the original thing was.
781
00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:53,110
- When it went to Jim with
completely fresh ears,
782
00:43:53,110 --> 00:43:54,760
he heard them a little differently,
783
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,980
and right away, as soon as
we heard how he was mixing
784
00:43:57,980 --> 00:43:59,650
I'm Trying to Break Your Heart,
the first thing he mixed,
785
00:43:59,650 --> 00:44:00,483
then it was like,
786
00:44:00,483 --> 00:44:02,550
"Oh, this really works."
- That's why bands
787
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:03,580
don't mix records.
788
00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:05,340
- I mean, definitely it was like a,
789
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:08,760
it was a final stage of collaboration.
790
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,340
Like mixing the record,
791
00:44:10,340 --> 00:44:12,500
that's what I always felt
like mixing should be,
792
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:16,230
like it should be the
last stage of inspiration.
793
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:18,150
I think we've tried to make it powerful
794
00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:19,500
like with two guitars.
795
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:20,710
- Can you beef up your tone
796
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:22,070
a little then or something?
- Yeah, yeah.
797
00:44:22,070 --> 00:44:24,829
- Okay, okay.
- It's just so steady now.
798
00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:27,370
- I thought it was feeling great, man.
799
00:44:27,370 --> 00:44:28,810
God, I thought it felt great.
800
00:44:28,810 --> 00:44:31,110
- No, I mean we can try
the two guitars again
801
00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:32,370
if it feels too weak,
802
00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:34,010
I just think that we tried the two...
803
00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:38,253
I think the two guitar things
might be obsolete, you know?
804
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,153
- Uh...
805
00:44:41,153 --> 00:44:44,167
I'm not sure what that
means, but I'll try. (laughs)
806
00:44:44,167 --> 00:44:45,087
No, I'm just, that felt
807
00:44:45,087 --> 00:44:46,254
great to me, that's all.
- No, I mean...
808
00:44:46,254 --> 00:44:47,087
what's that?
809
00:44:47,087 --> 00:44:48,105
- That felt great to me, that's all.
810
00:44:48,105 --> 00:44:49,722
- No, I--
- I just love fucking rocking,
811
00:44:49,722 --> 00:44:51,472
you know? That's all.
812
00:44:53,292 --> 00:44:55,875
(quiet rock music)
813
00:45:03,393 --> 00:45:07,963
# Jesus, don't cry #
814
00:45:07,963 --> 00:45:12,222
# You can rely on me honey #
815
00:45:12,222 --> 00:45:17,222
# You can combine anything you want #
816
00:45:18,713 --> 00:45:23,355
# I'll be around #
817
00:45:23,355 --> 00:45:27,835
# You were right about the stars #
818
00:45:27,835 --> 00:45:32,835
# Each one is a setting sun #
819
00:45:35,835 --> 00:45:38,563
# Tall buildings shake #
820
00:45:38,563 --> 00:45:42,432
# Voices escape singing sad, sad songs #
821
00:45:42,432 --> 00:45:45,761
# Tuned to chords strung
down your cheeks #
822
00:45:45,761 --> 00:45:48,600
- We, actually, officially
delivered the record
823
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,600
or sent them the final
mixes of the record.
824
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,180
- I must've had 50, 60
definite possibilities
825
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:57,670
for magazine features, let
alone television appearances
826
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:58,730
which were starting to...
827
00:45:58,730 --> 00:46:01,117
Offers were coming in, and I just thought,
828
00:46:01,117 --> 00:46:03,400
"Boy, this is gonna be
so great," you know?
829
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,200
It's all set.
830
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,470
I think, the press has always loved Wilco,
831
00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:09,470
but now we're gonna take
it even to another level.
832
00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:10,820
- When we delivered the record, though,
833
00:46:10,820 --> 00:46:13,360
we didn't hear from them for
like two weeks, you know?
834
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,500
So we thought that was
probably not a good thing.
835
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,523
- I knew that I was sitting on something
836
00:46:19,523 --> 00:46:21,670
that people were gonna
beat down the door to get.
837
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:25,010
And then the advances didn't get made.
838
00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:26,997
So June is rolling along, and I'm going,
839
00:46:26,997 --> 00:46:30,997
"Well, we're losing time, we're
losing people to deadlines.
840
00:46:30,997 --> 00:46:32,797
"They're not gonna be
able to cover this record
841
00:46:32,797 --> 00:46:33,880
"if we don't hurry up,"
842
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,300
and then about the third week in June,
843
00:46:36,300 --> 00:46:38,930
I'd heard there's a problem.
844
00:46:38,930 --> 00:46:41,850
- Next thing I heard was
845
00:46:41,850 --> 00:46:42,683
that...
846
00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:45,830
They asked us to change the record.
847
00:46:45,830 --> 00:46:49,730
I don't know what they
wanted us to change, and
848
00:46:50,570 --> 00:46:54,790
Tony told me that, that
was their response,
849
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:58,650
and I told Tony that we weren't interested
850
00:46:58,650 --> 00:46:59,570
in changing the record.
851
00:46:59,570 --> 00:47:02,100
- Their A&R representative
was Mio Vukovic,
852
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:03,500
and what I'd heard,
853
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:05,120
like I said I'd never talked to Wilco
854
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,340
about the way this chain happened,
855
00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:08,550
but what I heard from my side was that
856
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:12,100
Mio had some ideas about
changes to the record,
857
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:16,000
or additional recording, or
mixing, or things like that,
858
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,057
and the band had felt like,
859
00:47:18,057 --> 00:47:20,080
"That's the record. We're finished."
860
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,300
You know, we're not really
in the mind to make changes,
861
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:26,840
and it's sort of a, "Take it or leave it,"
862
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,170
and I think it went up
to Mio's boss David Kahn,
863
00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:32,500
the head of A&R for Warners and Reprise,
864
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:37,020
felt like Mio was right and
that changes did need to be made
865
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:39,440
and if the band wasn't
interested in making them,
866
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,390
then they should probably
be on another label.
867
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:44,760
- Next thing I heard was
that they wanted to know
868
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,050
if we wanted to leave.
869
00:47:46,050 --> 00:47:47,310
- Well I just think that we've been jerked
870
00:47:47,310 --> 00:47:48,530
around so many times,
871
00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:51,183
and that this is the
ultimate jerking around.
872
00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:53,283
You know, this like,
873
00:47:53,283 --> 00:47:56,050
"We're gonna drop you,"
shit or whatever it is.
874
00:47:56,050 --> 00:47:57,660
Or, "You can get out of the deal."
875
00:47:57,660 --> 00:47:59,020
Either way you wanna look at it,
876
00:47:59,020 --> 00:48:02,963
it's still majorly
being jerked around and,
877
00:48:04,210 --> 00:48:09,000
you know, why should I think
that things are gonna change?
878
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,740
- Actually when Tony first told me
879
00:48:10,740 --> 00:48:12,460
that this was a possibility,
880
00:48:12,460 --> 00:48:14,030
I have to be completely honest,
881
00:48:14,030 --> 00:48:15,740
it hurt my feelings.
882
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:17,710
It's like a feeling of rejection.
883
00:48:17,710 --> 00:48:20,737
- It's gotta be more than
some sort of promise of,
884
00:48:20,737 --> 00:48:23,137
"We love you, and we're
gonna take care of you."
885
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:26,340
Do you know what I mean?
886
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:28,940
Because we've heard all that before,
887
00:48:28,940 --> 00:48:32,620
and I just think that the
wound from this episode
888
00:48:32,620 --> 00:48:35,830
of making this record,
delivering the record,
889
00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:39,110
and getting basically nothing
but headaches in return
890
00:48:39,110 --> 00:48:41,740
is pretty deep and gonna
be pretty tough to heal.
891
00:48:41,740 --> 00:48:43,440
And you're not just dealing,
892
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,080
I'm not the only person
you gotta make feel better.
893
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,460
- We never got too specific
894
00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:51,670
about what exactly
895
00:48:54,340 --> 00:48:55,530
made them hate it.
896
00:48:55,530 --> 00:48:58,220
- Okay, but I just want you
to understand one thing.
897
00:48:58,220 --> 00:48:59,470
This is really important.
898
00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:04,500
Right now, I believe that
the best thing for the band,
899
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:07,260
for the band, the present
and future of the band,
900
00:49:07,260 --> 00:49:10,037
is to be away from Reprise Records.
901
00:49:10,037 --> 00:49:14,060
- It was at a weird time
in Reprise's inner circle
902
00:49:14,060 --> 00:49:16,453
because Howie Klein,
who had been president
903
00:49:16,453 --> 00:49:19,130
of Reprise for a long time,
904
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:20,750
since Reprise was reactivated,
905
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:23,910
he'd also been at Sire when
Uncle Tupelo was on Sire,
906
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:27,160
and a big fan of the band
had just left the label.
907
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,480
In fact I think the day that
the band turned in the record,
908
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,509
the end of June, right around then,
909
00:49:33,509 --> 00:49:35,360
that was his last day.
910
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,420
- A day or two after I
retired, I got a phone call
911
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:41,390
from one of Wilco's many,
many, many, many fans
912
00:49:42,406 --> 00:49:43,356
at Warner Brothers.
913
00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:45,950
That was the first of
many phone calls I got
914
00:49:45,950 --> 00:49:48,320
telling me that Wilco was dropped.
915
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,920
- I would guess that if I was an executive
916
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,550
at a record company, high up executive.
917
00:49:54,550 --> 00:49:56,000
I don't mean the people
working in the trenches,
918
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,030
but I mean the guys with, you know,
919
00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:01,530
the gold plated cell phones, you know.
920
00:50:01,530 --> 00:50:04,360
If I was up there and I listened
to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot,
921
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,950
I probably wouldn't get it.
922
00:50:05,950 --> 00:50:07,030
Why don't I get it?
923
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:10,090
Because it doesn't tell
me exactly who it's for,
924
00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:12,740
it doesn't tell me
exactly what it's about,
925
00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:15,330
and it doesn't tell me
exactly how much it will sell.
926
00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:17,420
- You know what, from what I gather,
927
00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:19,360
I think that they didn't
think there was a single
928
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,240
to work on.
929
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:21,410
- There's pretty stuff in there,
930
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:22,480
there's hard stuff in there,
931
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,900
there's mystery in there,
there's really sweet
932
00:50:27,130 --> 00:50:31,943
tunes, and there's, you know,
an abrasion in there as well.
933
00:50:32,890 --> 00:50:34,760
But it's all there, and
934
00:50:35,770 --> 00:50:38,270
you really have to kinda sit with it.
935
00:50:38,270 --> 00:50:41,295
You have to allow yourself the time
936
00:50:41,295 --> 00:50:42,883
to get something out of it.
937
00:50:42,883 --> 00:50:47,390
- There's no chance that Wilco
would've ever been dropped
938
00:50:47,390 --> 00:50:49,700
when I was president of Reprise Records.
939
00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:51,183
- We're now in a,
940
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,390
a culture, not just a business,
941
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:57,660
but a culture in which we
expect everything to happen
942
00:50:57,660 --> 00:50:59,210
like that, you know?
943
00:50:59,210 --> 00:51:01,980
You have people outside
standing around talking
944
00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:03,910
on cell phones, you know.
945
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:05,597
The gist of the conversation is,
946
00:51:05,597 --> 00:51:07,217
"I'll be there in five minutes."
947
00:51:08,090 --> 00:51:09,740
Who gives a fuck? (laughs)
948
00:51:09,740 --> 00:51:11,110
Just be there in five minutes,
949
00:51:11,110 --> 00:51:13,503
don't talk about it, you know?
950
00:51:14,940 --> 00:51:19,000
People are just so impatient, and
951
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,978
as a result, you know,
952
00:51:20,978 --> 00:51:23,287
we're looking at things
953
00:51:23,287 --> 00:51:25,007
in ways like, "Well, how much time
954
00:51:25,007 --> 00:51:27,710
"do I have to devote to this?"
955
00:51:27,710 --> 00:51:30,630
And it's really sad because, you know,
956
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:34,440
music, art, literature, poetry,
957
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,570
even great technological inventions.
958
00:51:38,570 --> 00:51:43,320
They're not meant to be done
and done with that quickly.
959
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,620
- It was like kinda just
a shock to be slapped
960
00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:48,320
in the face with, um...
961
00:51:54,226 --> 00:51:57,340
This calculated world
962
00:51:57,340 --> 00:52:00,970
of international, multi-national (laughs)
963
00:52:00,970 --> 00:52:03,036
whatever incorporation.
964
00:52:03,036 --> 00:52:06,187
# I'd like to thank you #
965
00:52:06,187 --> 00:52:08,215
# For nothing #
966
00:52:08,215 --> 00:52:12,063
# I'd like to thank you
for nothing at all #
967
00:52:12,063 --> 00:52:13,987
# I'd like to thank you #
968
00:52:13,987 --> 00:52:15,427
# For nothing #
969
00:52:15,427 --> 00:52:16,707
# Nothing #
970
00:52:16,707 --> 00:52:18,123
# Nothing #
971
00:52:18,123 --> 00:52:19,306
# Nothing #
972
00:52:19,306 --> 00:52:20,603
# Nothing #
973
00:52:20,603 --> 00:52:21,965
# Nothing #
974
00:52:21,965 --> 00:52:23,347
# Nothing #
975
00:52:23,347 --> 00:52:24,605
# Nothing #
976
00:52:24,605 --> 00:52:25,964
# Nothing #
977
00:52:25,964 --> 00:52:27,256
# Nothing #
978
00:52:27,256 --> 00:52:28,627
# Nothing #
979
00:52:28,627 --> 00:52:29,795
# Nothing #
980
00:52:29,795 --> 00:52:31,187
# Nothing #
981
00:52:31,187 --> 00:52:32,467
# Nothing #
982
00:52:32,467 --> 00:52:33,684
# Nothing #
983
00:52:33,684 --> 00:52:34,925
# Nothing #
984
00:52:34,925 --> 00:52:36,296
# Nothing #
985
00:52:36,296 --> 00:52:37,445
# Nothing #
986
00:52:37,445 --> 00:52:38,707
# Nothing #
987
00:52:38,707 --> 00:52:39,856
# Nothing #
988
00:52:39,856 --> 00:52:41,227
# Nothing #
989
00:52:41,227 --> 00:52:42,416
# Nothing #
990
00:52:42,416 --> 00:52:43,707
# Nothing #
991
00:52:43,707 --> 00:52:44,875
# Nothing #
992
00:52:44,875 --> 00:52:46,115
# Nothing #
993
00:52:46,115 --> 00:52:47,445
# Nothing #
994
00:52:47,445 --> 00:52:48,645
# Nothing #
995
00:52:48,645 --> 00:52:49,896
# Nothing #
996
00:52:49,896 --> 00:52:51,187
# Nothing #
997
00:52:51,187 --> 00:52:52,427
# Nothing #
998
00:52:52,427 --> 00:52:53,736
# Nothing #
999
00:52:53,736 --> 00:52:55,005
# Nothing #
1000
00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:56,256
# Nothing #
1001
00:52:56,256 --> 00:52:57,515
# Nothing #
1002
00:52:57,515 --> 00:52:58,835
# Nothing #
1003
00:52:58,835 --> 00:53:01,085
# Nothing at all #
1004
00:53:02,994 --> 00:53:05,744
(crowd cheering)
1005
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:16,180
- I see a band here that is
really ambitious artistically.
1006
00:53:16,180 --> 00:53:19,420
It's not a VH1 Behind the Music story.
1007
00:53:19,420 --> 00:53:24,420
It's not a drugs, groupies,
celebrity kind of story at all.
1008
00:53:24,435 --> 00:53:27,070
This band's story is the music.
1009
00:53:27,070 --> 00:53:29,450
Twenty years from now,
they're probably gonna get
1010
00:53:29,450 --> 00:53:32,180
more their due than they are now.
1011
00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:33,960
I don't think they're a band that fits in
1012
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,460
with a lot of what music
gets played on the radio.
1013
00:53:36,460 --> 00:53:39,260
The appreciation for its
records is gonna increase
1014
00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:40,443
as time goes on.
1015
00:53:43,478 --> 00:53:46,228
(Glenn drumming)
1016
00:53:57,936 --> 00:53:59,192
- In the making of this record,
1017
00:53:59,192 --> 00:54:01,590
I felt like I got no support, zero.
1018
00:54:01,590 --> 00:54:03,230
Emotional,
1019
00:54:03,230 --> 00:54:04,970
financial,
1020
00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:05,878
whatever.
1021
00:54:05,878 --> 00:54:07,640
Then at some point in the process,
1022
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,686
you start asking yourself,
1023
00:54:09,686 --> 00:54:11,500
"What are they doing?"
1024
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:13,340
We don't need the money.
1025
00:54:13,340 --> 00:54:15,710
The band can go out and
play gigs and make the money
1026
00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:16,883
to pay for the record.
1027
00:54:19,770 --> 00:54:21,873
They're not getting the band on the radio.
1028
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,250
You know, it's really,
1029
00:54:26,250 --> 00:54:28,063
at this point to me,
1030
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:32,600
their value's really,
really questionable to us.
1031
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,436
(guitar playing)
1032
00:54:34,436 --> 00:54:37,186
(crowd cheering)
1033
00:54:51,555 --> 00:54:54,555
(upbeat rock music)
1034
00:55:08,274 --> 00:55:12,014
# I got you and it's all I need #
1035
00:55:12,014 --> 00:55:15,824
# I got you and it's all I need #
1036
00:55:15,824 --> 00:55:19,646
# I got you and it's all I need #
1037
00:55:19,646 --> 00:55:23,543
# I got you #
1038
00:55:23,543 --> 00:55:27,304
# I got you and I still believe #
1039
00:55:27,304 --> 00:55:30,704
# That you're all I will ever need #
1040
00:55:30,704 --> 00:55:34,515
# It's you #
1041
00:55:34,515 --> 00:55:38,264
# All #
1042
00:55:38,264 --> 00:55:42,755
# All the way back in the seventies #
1043
00:55:42,755 --> 00:55:46,515
# You were my little TV queen #
1044
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:51,515
# Your Tarzan and your
friend, Janine. I got you #
1045
00:55:54,332 --> 00:55:58,162
# I got you and I still believe #
1046
00:55:58,162 --> 00:56:01,482
# That you're all I will ever need #
1047
00:56:01,482 --> 00:56:05,343
# It's you #
1048
00:56:05,343 --> 00:56:10,343
# All #
1049
00:56:20,747 --> 00:56:25,580
# (Jay guitar solo) #
1050
00:56:38,581 --> 00:56:42,261
# It's the end of the century #
1051
00:56:42,261 --> 00:56:47,261
# And I can't think of anything #
1052
00:56:49,888 --> 00:56:53,709
# Except you #
1053
00:56:53,709 --> 00:56:57,578
# Now it's the end of the century #
1054
00:56:57,578 --> 00:57:00,866
# And I can't think of anything #
1055
00:57:00,866 --> 00:57:04,655
# But you #
1056
00:57:04,655 --> 00:57:08,497
# All, #
1057
00:57:08,497 --> 00:57:12,235
# All, #
1058
00:57:12,235 --> 00:57:15,996
# I, #
1059
00:57:15,996 --> 00:57:17,913
# Need #
1060
00:57:32,223 --> 00:57:34,973
(crowd cheering)
1061
00:57:47,086 --> 00:57:50,737
# I got you #
1062
00:57:50,737 --> 00:57:53,646
# I got you, babe #
1063
00:57:53,646 --> 00:57:57,865
# Ooh #
1064
00:57:57,865 --> 00:58:00,115
# Ooh, ooh #
1065
00:58:00,966 --> 00:58:03,716
(Jeff screaming)
1066
00:58:23,977 --> 00:58:26,727
(crowd cheering)
1067
00:58:27,906 --> 00:58:28,739
Thanks a lot.
1068
00:58:28,739 --> 00:58:29,572
Goodnight.
1069
00:58:37,093 --> 00:58:39,843
(relaxing music)
1070
00:58:53,937 --> 00:58:58,845
(indistinct chatter)
1071
00:59:04,941 --> 00:59:07,373
- Good to see you brother.
1072
00:59:07,373 --> 00:59:08,206
Aww.
1073
00:59:09,613 --> 00:59:10,661
- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1074
00:59:10,661 --> 00:59:12,078
Wait, wait, wait.
1075
00:59:19,751 --> 00:59:21,600
- They won't let you
just do it yourselves.
1076
00:59:23,483 --> 00:59:24,660
- Horde it, pig.
1077
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:26,560
- Stealing the band's pizza.
1078
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,580
Aw, got busted.
1079
00:59:28,580 --> 00:59:30,238
Sorry dude.
1080
00:59:30,238 --> 00:59:32,038
Is it cool, is it cool?
- Does anybody have a pen?
1081
00:59:32,038 --> 00:59:33,121
- [Jay] Yeah.
1082
00:59:37,867 --> 00:59:40,408
- [Female Fan] I don't have
nothing for you to sign.
1083
00:59:40,408 --> 00:59:43,156
- Someone sign your ass. (laughs)
1084
00:59:43,156 --> 00:59:43,989
I was kidding.
1085
00:59:43,989 --> 00:59:45,371
- Yeah, I can do that.
- You can sign my boobs.
1086
00:59:45,371 --> 00:59:46,927
Wanna sign my boobs or not?
1087
00:59:46,927 --> 00:59:48,449
- Um, actually, would I?
1088
00:59:48,449 --> 00:59:49,282
I don't know.
1089
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:52,909
Someone in our band did that once.
1090
00:59:52,909 --> 00:59:54,599
- You can sign my ass 'cause I have
1091
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:57,323
nothing else to sign.
- Really?
1092
00:59:57,323 --> 00:59:59,923
- If you sign her ass,
you have to sign my ass.
1093
00:59:59,923 --> 01:00:00,772
- Oh, my god.
- And if you sign her ass,
1094
01:00:00,772 --> 01:00:02,013
you have to sign my ass.
1095
01:00:02,013 --> 01:00:04,390
- You can sign my chest.
- No, you sign her ass...
1096
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:06,310
- That's what Jimmy,
1097
01:00:06,310 --> 01:00:07,570
oh we saw Jimmy in the--
- Are we going to
1098
01:00:07,570 --> 01:00:08,820
lighting stage?
1099
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:09,653
Sound check?
1100
01:00:10,750 --> 01:00:13,390
- The straight jackets on the
elevator last night. (laughs)
1101
01:00:13,390 --> 01:00:14,230
Remember the guy who did--
1102
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:16,800
- Oh, oh my God.
- Sat in from Jimmy Lester?
1103
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,633
What?
1104
01:00:17,633 --> 01:00:19,177
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
- Go ahead.
1105
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:25,080
- I met Bob from Sesame
Street yesterday, last night.
1106
01:00:25,298 --> 01:00:26,131
Bob?
- Oh.
1107
01:00:26,131 --> 01:00:26,964
- Do you know who Bob,
1108
01:00:26,964 --> 01:00:27,890
does anybody know who Bob is?
1109
01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:28,892
- Yeah.
- I don't remember that.
1110
01:00:28,892 --> 01:00:29,725
- How'd you meet him?
1111
01:00:29,725 --> 01:00:30,970
- He was in our hotel.
1112
01:00:30,970 --> 01:00:33,528
He's doing a kid's show
right now as we speak.
1113
01:00:33,528 --> 01:00:34,799
- Oh, man.
- He's like,
1114
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:38,581
"Yeah, I got, Big Bird's
coming in tomorrow."
1115
01:00:38,581 --> 01:00:40,300
(John laughing)
1116
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:42,103
- There's Jay right now as we speak.
1117
01:00:44,140 --> 01:00:46,899
- So also, although
it's already been going,
1118
01:00:46,899 --> 01:00:50,190
but JP asked if we could
steer clear of the stage
1119
01:00:50,190 --> 01:00:51,737
for a little while.
1120
01:00:51,737 --> 01:00:52,766
(group laughs)
1121
01:00:52,766 --> 01:00:54,150
- Until sound check is over?
1122
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:56,763
- Until Jay gets done.
1123
01:00:58,230 --> 01:01:00,445
- Has Jay been here since
like six in the morning?
1124
01:01:00,445 --> 01:01:03,872
- [Sound Checker] Two, hey, hey.
1125
01:01:03,872 --> 01:01:05,122
Hey, excuse me.
1126
01:01:06,517 --> 01:01:10,670
- Gentlemen, we have about
35 minutes to do all of this.
1127
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:11,503
Target.
1128
01:01:13,930 --> 01:01:16,584
Uh, yeah, we're going Glenn,
1129
01:01:16,584 --> 01:01:20,300
we're gonna go Jay Bennett,
entire keyboard world,
1130
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:23,520
and Jay Bennett electric
rig, keep him there.
1131
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,630
After Jay, we'll do Johnny
real quick, Mr. Tweedy,
1132
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:28,720
let Leroy get his world sussed out.
1133
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,594
We're only gonna have time
to do about two songs.
1134
01:01:30,594 --> 01:01:31,574
- Okay.
1135
01:01:31,574 --> 01:01:34,534
(drums playing)
1136
01:01:34,534 --> 01:01:37,784
(Jay playing keyboard)
1137
01:01:41,033 --> 01:01:42,950
- Check, hey, hey, hey.
1138
01:01:44,010 --> 01:01:45,806
- Yeah, the delay's not working.
1139
01:01:45,806 --> 01:01:49,654
# You have to learn how to die #
1140
01:01:49,654 --> 01:01:54,654
# If you want to want to be alive #
1141
01:01:58,954 --> 01:02:02,846
# You have to die #
1142
01:02:02,846 --> 01:02:07,786
# You have to die #
1143
01:02:07,786 --> 01:02:11,567
# You have to learn how to die #
1144
01:02:11,567 --> 01:02:15,734
# If you want to want to be alive #
1145
01:02:38,728 --> 01:02:41,478
(crowd clapping)
1146
01:02:43,596 --> 01:02:46,429
(energetic music)
1147
01:02:50,504 --> 01:02:52,306
# I know #
1148
01:02:52,306 --> 01:02:53,426
# We don't talk much #
1149
01:02:53,426 --> 01:02:57,427
# But you're such a good talker, oh whoa #
1150
01:02:57,427 --> 01:02:59,275
# I know #
1151
01:02:59,275 --> 01:03:00,514
# You should take a walk #
1152
01:03:00,514 --> 01:03:03,975
# But you're such a fast walker, oh whoa #
1153
01:03:03,975 --> 01:03:08,034
# Well all right #
1154
01:03:08,034 --> 01:03:13,034
# I know where I'll be
tonight, all right #
1155
01:03:14,907 --> 01:03:18,135
# Out of mind, out of sight #
1156
01:03:18,135 --> 01:03:20,315
- No, Tom's introducing me.
1157
01:03:20,315 --> 01:03:21,470
- Oh, okay.
- And then I'll go to you.
1158
01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:23,020
- Okay.
- Okay.
1159
01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:24,610
When is the new album actually available
1160
01:03:24,610 --> 01:03:26,060
for people to go out and buy?
1161
01:03:26,060 --> 01:03:27,204
- That's a good question.
1162
01:03:27,204 --> 01:03:29,395
# I know you probably hate me #
1163
01:03:29,395 --> 01:03:31,843
# That's okay with me #
1164
01:03:31,843 --> 01:03:36,073
# All right #
1165
01:03:36,073 --> 01:03:37,214
# I know where I'll be #
1166
01:03:37,214 --> 01:03:39,054
- Good afternoon, good evening
1167
01:03:39,054 --> 01:03:42,683
and happy Independence Day, everyone.
1168
01:03:42,683 --> 01:03:46,592
Please welcome one of
America's most exciting
1169
01:03:46,592 --> 01:03:48,342
and innovative bands,
1170
01:03:49,222 --> 01:03:54,222
Wilco!
1171
01:03:55,265 --> 01:04:00,265
# You don't see me now #
1172
01:04:02,302 --> 01:04:07,302
# You don't want to any, #
1173
01:04:09,042 --> 01:04:14,042
# How, how, how #
1174
01:04:15,952 --> 01:04:19,121
# Look out, here I come again #
1175
01:04:19,121 --> 01:04:22,560
# And I'm bringing my friends #
1176
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,921
# I said look out #
1177
01:04:24,921 --> 01:04:26,810
# Here I come again #
1178
01:04:26,810 --> 01:04:28,401
# I'm bringing my friends #
1179
01:04:28,401 --> 01:04:33,401
# Okay I said alright #
1180
01:04:33,481 --> 01:04:38,481
# I know where I'll be
tonight, all right #
1181
01:04:40,348 --> 01:04:43,761
# Out of mind, out of sight #
1182
01:04:43,761 --> 01:04:47,372
# Out of mind, out of sight #
1183
01:04:47,372 --> 01:04:51,039
# Out of mind, out of sight #
1184
01:05:01,860 --> 01:05:03,527
Show some gratitude!
1185
01:05:08,762 --> 01:05:11,512
(crowd cheering)
1186
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,290
- [Interviewer] Well,
let's talk about Jay.
1187
01:05:21,290 --> 01:05:23,277
- [Jeff] All right, I probably
won't have much to say.
1188
01:05:23,277 --> 01:05:25,648
- Okay.
- Just warning you.
1189
01:05:25,648 --> 01:05:28,860
- Okay, it's my understanding
from what I heard
1190
01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:29,970
in the grapevine that,
1191
01:05:29,970 --> 01:05:33,630
that was sort of an amicable
separation, and, um...
1192
01:05:34,923 --> 01:05:36,273
And I don't know that this is true,
1193
01:05:36,273 --> 01:05:38,350
but the hearsay is sort
of that he didn't feel
1194
01:05:38,350 --> 01:05:40,530
that he had as much a
role in the songwriting
1195
01:05:40,530 --> 01:05:42,573
as he wanted to have, or...
1196
01:05:43,470 --> 01:05:45,740
- I think that there's some truth to that,
1197
01:05:45,740 --> 01:05:50,700
and I think there's an effort
made for it to be amicable.
1198
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:54,383
- Since Jeff's solo tour
and Glenn joining the band,
1199
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,510
some dynamics in the band had altered
1200
01:05:58,510 --> 01:06:01,740
in many different ways.
1201
01:06:01,740 --> 01:06:05,030
- I think Jay's contribution
to the band over time,
1202
01:06:05,030 --> 01:06:08,010
and our collaboration, was important
1203
01:06:08,010 --> 01:06:10,510
and was valued in the band.
1204
01:06:10,510 --> 01:06:14,620
As for the circumstances
surrounding him leaving,
1205
01:06:14,620 --> 01:06:17,840
I really think that that's
up to Jay to define,
1206
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,100
and as far as, uh,
1207
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:23,070
my, uh, feelings about it,
1208
01:06:23,070 --> 01:06:24,930
I couldn't be happier.
1209
01:06:24,930 --> 01:06:26,480
- Jeff was convinced that he really needed
1210
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,570
to tell Jay directly, and he needed to be
1211
01:06:28,570 --> 01:06:29,750
the guy to do it.
1212
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:30,583
- We sat down.
1213
01:06:30,583 --> 01:06:32,987
He said, "I don't think I can make music
1214
01:06:32,987 --> 01:06:35,330
"with you anymore,"
1215
01:06:35,330 --> 01:06:36,547
and I said, Why?"
1216
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:38,630
And, uh...
1217
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,660
I'm not sure I ever got an
answer that made any sense.
1218
01:06:45,660 --> 01:06:48,140
- Jay wore out his welcome
1219
01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:49,670
in a lot of ways.
1220
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:54,163
- It's hard to be working with somebody,
1221
01:06:54,163 --> 01:06:54,996
uh,
1222
01:06:58,260 --> 01:07:02,550
that needs more than you can give him,
1223
01:07:02,550 --> 01:07:06,940
and, you know, I'm more
interested in playing music
1224
01:07:06,940 --> 01:07:08,600
with people that I can share with
1225
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,380
than give things to.
1226
01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:13,060
- Jeff was threatened by me.
1227
01:07:13,060 --> 01:07:14,123
It's clear.
1228
01:07:15,010 --> 01:07:19,610
By the attention I was
beginning to get, um...
1229
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,960
Uh...
1230
01:07:23,030 --> 01:07:25,900
He wanted the band back, that's simple.
1231
01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:27,800
That's the simple answer, you know.
1232
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,970
Jeff went into this big long analogy
1233
01:07:29,970 --> 01:07:33,510
about how a circle needs
a center, you know?
1234
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:35,880
Well, he was gonna be the center, right?
1235
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,500
I wasn't gonna be the center.
1236
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:39,983
- It's hard for me to talk about.
1237
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:45,820
Um, I mean, I've known Jay
for (tongue clicks) 16 years,
1238
01:07:45,820 --> 01:07:46,893
17 years?
1239
01:07:48,010 --> 01:07:48,843
And,
1240
01:07:50,490 --> 01:07:53,320
our friendship had, uh...
1241
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,390
Run its course.
1242
01:07:57,390 --> 01:08:00,900
- There's a lot of power
related issues in Wilco,
1243
01:08:00,900 --> 01:08:02,440
and people are,
1244
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,470
they don't wanna lost their gig, man.
1245
01:08:05,470 --> 01:08:09,603
And so they don't wanna step
outside of their little, uh...
1246
01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:19,420
Scripted role 'cause if they
do, this is what happens.
1247
01:08:19,890 --> 01:08:22,750
- I think we all knew
everyone would be happier
1248
01:08:22,750 --> 01:08:25,770
in the end, and I think Jay
would totally agree with that.
1249
01:08:25,770 --> 01:08:29,040
- It did not come as a total
shock to me to be asked
1250
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,420
to leave Wilco.
1251
01:08:30,420 --> 01:08:33,980
It had been in the back of my mind.
1252
01:08:33,980 --> 01:08:37,300
In fact, I'd talked to Leroy
about this extensively,
1253
01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:40,177
that to quote myself,
1254
01:08:40,177 --> 01:08:42,800
"My days in Wilco are numbered."
1255
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,450
I had thought very, very, seriously
1256
01:08:45,450 --> 01:08:47,330
about leaving the band.
1257
01:08:47,330 --> 01:08:49,580
I just happened to be beaten to the punch.
1258
01:08:49,580 --> 01:08:54,580
- When you're Jay Bennett or
whomever and you leave the band
1259
01:08:54,940 --> 01:08:57,300
you have to kind of start over.
1260
01:08:57,300 --> 01:09:01,900
You're going back to playing
for 35 people or 100 people
1261
01:09:01,900 --> 01:09:05,695
or whatever from sold-out theaters.
1262
01:09:05,695 --> 01:09:08,871
# So sleep now #
1263
01:09:08,871 --> 01:09:11,775
# My darling #
1264
01:09:11,775 --> 01:09:16,775
# And I'll keep all the bad dreams away #
1265
01:09:18,834 --> 01:09:23,834
# And breathe now, breathe easy #
1266
01:09:24,946 --> 01:09:29,946
# And I will say all the
right things to say #
1267
01:09:31,634 --> 01:09:36,634
# Because we made you, my darling #
1268
01:09:38,274 --> 01:09:43,274
# From the love that was in our hearts #
1269
01:09:44,764 --> 01:09:48,702
# We were a family #
1270
01:09:48,702 --> 01:09:50,465
# My darling #
1271
01:09:50,465 --> 01:09:53,715
# Right from the start #
1272
01:10:04,983 --> 01:10:08,085
# Grow up now #
1273
01:10:08,085 --> 01:10:11,474
# My darling #
1274
01:10:11,474 --> 01:10:16,474
# Just don't grow up so fast #
1275
01:10:17,942 --> 01:10:21,193
# Be careful #
1276
01:10:21,193 --> 01:10:24,585
# My darling #
1277
01:10:24,585 --> 01:10:28,923
# To make all the good times last #
1278
01:10:28,923 --> 01:10:29,973
- [Tony] They delivered a great record,
1279
01:10:29,973 --> 01:10:31,673
and I think it's the record company that,
1280
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,470
for whatever reason,
1281
01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:38,010
can't handle that type of
great record, and so fantastic
1282
01:10:38,010 --> 01:10:39,550
let's go do something else.
1283
01:10:39,550 --> 01:10:42,760
- I don't know how to
make something other than
1284
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,320
the record we made, and
1285
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,400
I think to...
1286
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,240
Entertain any of their half-ass,
1287
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,480
fearful,
1288
01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:53,210
frightened
1289
01:10:53,210 --> 01:10:56,310
bullshit would be to compromise
1290
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:59,555
something that is a big part of my soul.
1291
01:10:59,555 --> 01:11:00,388
(laughs) You know?
1292
01:11:00,388 --> 01:11:02,930
Like it's a part of my heart.
1293
01:11:02,930 --> 01:11:05,420
And I don't have any interest
in doing that anymore.
1294
01:11:05,420 --> 01:11:08,360
- I think it's a really,
really, really strong record.
1295
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,670
I think it's a statement,
1296
01:11:09,670 --> 01:11:12,570
I think it's the right
record for them to make now
1297
01:11:12,570 --> 01:11:13,960
in their career,
1298
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,890
and I think there are dozens of labels
1299
01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:20,697
that would be ecstatic to have it and who,
1300
01:11:20,697 --> 01:11:22,360
if you delivered this record,
1301
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,146
would call you up and be excited about it.
1302
01:11:25,146 --> 01:11:29,330
That's all. That's what I'm
tired of, is no enthusiasm.
1303
01:11:29,330 --> 01:11:31,495
Why is Wilco dropped
1304
01:11:31,495 --> 01:11:33,450
24 hours after they deliver
1305
01:11:33,450 --> 01:11:35,980
a record like Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?
1306
01:11:35,980 --> 01:11:36,813
Um...
1307
01:11:38,003 --> 01:11:39,618
I mean, we've contemplated that question
1308
01:11:39,618 --> 01:11:41,340
at great length over the summer,
1309
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:43,820
and in the end, I think
Tony and I both just sort of
1310
01:11:43,820 --> 01:11:45,057
put our hands up and said,
1311
01:11:45,057 --> 01:11:46,617
"Well, I guess we're glad
that it just happened,
1312
01:11:46,617 --> 01:11:49,410
"and we won't try to
over-intellectualize it any further,"
1313
01:11:49,410 --> 01:11:50,836
but I really think looking back on it,
1314
01:11:50,836 --> 01:11:52,670
it's because of marketing,
1315
01:11:52,670 --> 01:11:55,420
and it's because you have
an artist like Jeff Tweedy
1316
01:11:55,420 --> 01:12:00,340
who's put out, you know,
four or five records in a row
1317
01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:02,810
with a record company,
1318
01:12:02,810 --> 01:12:05,520
and they haven't been able
to bring sales up to a level
1319
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,850
where it's really significantly affecting
1320
01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:09,610
their bottom line.
1321
01:12:09,610 --> 01:12:11,760
They, I guess, stopped thinking about it
1322
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,447
from a pure artistic level, and just say,
1323
01:12:14,447 --> 01:12:16,550
"We don't make money on this guy,"
1324
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:20,250
and then he delivers a record
which, for whatever reasons,
1325
01:12:20,250 --> 01:12:23,400
they evaluate as being difficult to
1326
01:12:24,330 --> 01:12:28,043
raise to the next level of public appeal.
1327
01:12:29,730 --> 01:12:31,792
So they say, "Well, okay,
we're not going to,"
1328
01:12:31,792 --> 01:12:34,977
I guess to use a phrase,
"Throw good money after bad.
1329
01:12:34,977 --> 01:12:38,377
"We've spent $200,000
recording this record,
1330
01:12:38,377 --> 01:12:40,267
"but it's gonna cost us another $300,000
1331
01:12:40,267 --> 01:12:43,737
"or whatever to launch a
marketing campaign for it,
1332
01:12:43,737 --> 01:12:47,250
"and we just don't think we're
gonna make our money back."
1333
01:12:47,250 --> 01:12:49,723
So, they drop the artist.
1334
01:12:51,250 --> 01:12:53,680
This of course creates a situation for us
1335
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,237
where we have a finished
record, and we wanna put it out.
1336
01:12:56,237 --> 01:12:58,640
- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
has actually turned into
1337
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,060
a kind of metaphor.
1338
01:13:00,060 --> 01:13:04,400
It's now a measure of
what record companies,
1339
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,330
or not even so much record companies,
1340
01:13:06,330 --> 01:13:09,340
but the corporations that
own record companies,
1341
01:13:09,340 --> 01:13:11,040
are willing to put up with.
1342
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,810
- Ultimately, what it came down to
1343
01:13:13,810 --> 01:13:15,597
was they had told Jeff Tweedy,
1344
01:13:15,597 --> 01:13:18,700
"We don't like your album,
we don't wanna release it."
1345
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:21,700
- In the end, you know,
it doesn't really matter
1346
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:23,970
who puts the record out.
1347
01:13:23,970 --> 01:13:28,000
Eventually, either in the near future
1348
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,000
or in the way far distant
future, someone's gonna get it.
1349
01:13:33,580 --> 01:13:35,128
As long as music is available,
1350
01:13:35,128 --> 01:13:36,701
someone will hear it.
1351
01:13:36,701 --> 01:13:38,327
- The record label must have
found it to be something
1352
01:13:38,327 --> 01:13:40,110
of a public relations problem
1353
01:13:40,110 --> 01:13:41,190
because of all of the,
1354
01:13:41,190 --> 01:13:43,290
the press really latched
on to the situation
1355
01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:46,205
as something of a...
1356
01:13:46,205 --> 01:13:48,910
Using Jeff something as
a poster boy as to what
1357
01:13:48,910 --> 01:13:51,400
problems were going on in
a lot of record companies
1358
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,140
and in particular Warner Brothers
1359
01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:54,350
with their artist rosters,
1360
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:57,340
and they didn't want it to blow
up any further than it did,
1361
01:13:57,340 --> 01:13:58,593
so they, um,
1362
01:13:59,590 --> 01:14:01,060
after a certain amount of
1363
01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:04,393
anxiety-ridden conversations,
1364
01:14:05,348 --> 01:14:06,767
said, "We think the right thing to do is
1365
01:14:06,767 --> 01:14:08,277
"let you take your record somewhere else,
1366
01:14:08,277 --> 01:14:09,310
"wherever you like."
1367
01:14:09,310 --> 01:14:10,720
- Every time we put out a record,
1368
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,970
the length of time
1369
01:14:11,970 --> 01:14:16,970
that a record company's willing
to actually even humor you
1370
01:14:17,060 --> 01:14:20,430
about working on your
record has gotten shorter.
1371
01:14:20,430 --> 01:14:23,030
- Music is not limited to what happens
1372
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:26,490
in a business quarter, and...
1373
01:14:31,060 --> 01:14:32,480
You know,
1374
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:34,220
this
1375
01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:36,000
is a record, okay?
1376
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,270
This is something that
probably someone will buy,
1377
01:14:38,270 --> 01:14:41,090
they'll pay 15, 16 whatever bucks for it,
1378
01:14:41,090 --> 01:14:42,840
and that's cool but,
1379
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,300
what's encoded somewhere in
the bottom of this thing,
1380
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:47,550
this dopey little disk, you know,
1381
01:14:47,550 --> 01:14:49,430
that's what matters.
1382
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:53,540
This, the artifact, the
actual object does not.
1383
01:14:53,540 --> 01:14:56,071
What's encoded in here, if it's any good,
1384
01:14:57,650 --> 01:14:58,890
you'll hear it.
1385
01:14:58,890 --> 01:15:00,860
And you'll either get it, or you won't.
1386
01:15:00,860 --> 01:15:02,470
And,
1387
01:15:02,470 --> 01:15:03,303
just as,
1388
01:15:04,334 --> 01:15:05,167
as a writer,
1389
01:15:05,167 --> 01:15:08,180
as a fan, as a guy who just
listens to music a lot,
1390
01:15:08,180 --> 01:15:12,813
if you don't get it, I just
think that's kinda too bad.
1391
01:15:12,813 --> 01:15:15,313
(light music)
1392
01:15:20,133 --> 01:15:23,915
# There's a magazine called Sunset #
1393
01:15:23,915 --> 01:15:27,795
# And a tape machine that won't let #
1394
01:15:27,795 --> 01:15:32,795
# Me ever forget this
impossible longing for you. #
1395
01:15:32,980 --> 01:15:36,040
- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
has been finished now
1396
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,560
for about six months.
1397
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,733
The band have done a
little bit of touring.
1398
01:15:41,938 --> 01:15:44,447
Word got out that the band
were out of their deal,
1399
01:15:44,447 --> 01:15:47,243
and we started getting a lot of calls,
1400
01:15:49,104 --> 01:15:52,260
and basically we started
talking to people.
1401
01:15:52,260 --> 01:15:53,972
I think we were dealing with
1402
01:15:53,972 --> 01:15:57,050
about 25 or 30 labels initially,
1403
01:15:57,050 --> 01:15:59,300
and then as time passed,
1404
01:15:59,300 --> 01:16:02,250
we have been whittling the list down,
1405
01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:04,840
and we're now talking to,
1406
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,150
five or so,
1407
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:09,863
and hope to have that resolved
in the next week or two.
1408
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:13,124
- I don't have any money.
1409
01:16:13,124 --> 01:16:14,558
- Don't worry.
1410
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,200
Oh, I only have six dollars.
1411
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,876
You want something to eat, Sammy?
1412
01:16:21,876 --> 01:16:23,743
- Yes.
1413
01:16:23,743 --> 01:16:25,294
I want something to eat.
1414
01:16:25,294 --> 01:16:26,127
- What do you want?
1415
01:16:26,127 --> 01:16:28,130
- Want soda!
1416
01:16:28,130 --> 01:16:30,936
- Soda? Honey, I don't have enough money.
1417
01:16:32,604 --> 01:16:34,090
- I'll go get some money.
1418
01:16:34,090 --> 01:16:36,930
- Never in my wildest,
1419
01:16:36,930 --> 01:16:38,510
most optimistic moment
1420
01:16:38,510 --> 01:16:40,680
did I think that we'd be sitting here
1421
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:41,980
in the position we're in right now
1422
01:16:41,980 --> 01:16:44,160
which is with a finished record
1423
01:16:45,310 --> 01:16:46,880
that
1424
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,090
is ours to take wherever we want.
1425
01:16:50,090 --> 01:16:53,650
You could certainly
say that they fucked up
1426
01:16:53,650 --> 01:16:57,020
by letting the band go and
walk away with the record.
1427
01:16:57,020 --> 01:17:00,020
It's really an opportunity
that maybe comes along
1428
01:17:00,020 --> 01:17:01,311
once in a career.
1429
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,340
- The claw machine ripped him off.
1430
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:08,333
No, it...
1431
01:17:09,763 --> 01:17:11,091
It went by itself.
1432
01:17:12,283 --> 01:17:13,714
- Tony smell Sam's butt.
1433
01:17:13,714 --> 01:17:14,547
- No, thanks.
1434
01:17:14,547 --> 01:17:16,497
- I need to know if he needs a diaper.
1435
01:17:16,497 --> 01:17:21,390
- I think he does. (laughs)
1436
01:17:21,390 --> 01:17:25,120
- I was surprised at the
number of record companies
1437
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,190
that were willing to pay
a large amount of money
1438
01:17:28,190 --> 01:17:30,380
to be sort of in the Wilco picture.
1439
01:17:33,366 --> 01:17:35,825
(hands patting)
1440
01:17:35,825 --> 01:17:37,435
- Recognize it?
1441
01:17:37,435 --> 01:17:39,195
- Was is it?
1442
01:17:39,195 --> 01:17:40,825
- Guess, it's one of your songs.
1443
01:17:40,825 --> 01:17:41,827
- It's one of my songs?
1444
01:17:41,827 --> 01:17:43,884
I'm Trying To Break Your Heart?
1445
01:17:43,884 --> 01:17:46,523
- No.
- Uh, I Need A Kamera?
1446
01:17:46,523 --> 01:17:48,500
- No.
- Dreamer In My Dreams?
1447
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:49,664
- No.
1448
01:17:49,664 --> 01:17:52,331
(hands patting)
1449
01:17:54,504 --> 01:17:55,337
- No?
1450
01:17:55,337 --> 01:17:56,870
Casino Queen?
- Uh, uh.
1451
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:58,197
- California Stars?
- No.
1452
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:00,300
- Tell me.
1453
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:04,150
- It's something with a drum in it.
1454
01:18:04,150 --> 01:18:05,335
- Heavy Metal Drummer.
1455
01:18:05,335 --> 01:18:06,520
- Yes.
1456
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,520
- How's that go?
1457
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,467
(hands patting)
1458
01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:16,991
# I sincerely miss those
heavy metal bands #
1459
01:18:16,991 --> 01:18:21,191
# I used to go see on the
landing in the summer #
1460
01:18:21,191 --> 01:18:23,110
# She fell in love with the drummer #
1461
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:25,160
# She fell in love with the drummer #
1462
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,322
# She fell in love #
1463
01:18:29,322 --> 01:18:33,292
# Shiny, shiny pants and
bleached blonde hair #
1464
01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:37,331
# A double kick drum by
the river in the summer #
1465
01:18:37,331 --> 01:18:39,314
# She fell in love with the drummer #
1466
01:18:39,314 --> 01:18:41,303
# Another and another #
1467
01:18:41,303 --> 01:18:45,874
# She fell in love #
1468
01:18:45,874 --> 01:18:50,874
# I miss the innocence I've known #
1469
01:18:53,752 --> 01:18:58,752
# Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned #
1470
01:19:05,954 --> 01:19:09,812
# Unlock my body and
move myself to dance #
1471
01:19:09,812 --> 01:19:13,852
# In the warm liquid,
flowing blowing glass #
1472
01:19:13,852 --> 01:19:17,517
# Classical music blasting
masks the ringing in my ears #
1473
01:19:17,517 --> 01:19:19,855
- The record had started
to leak a little bit
1474
01:19:19,855 --> 01:19:21,510
from labels and so on,
1475
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:23,900
and copies were starting
to float around and,
1476
01:19:23,900 --> 01:19:25,990
initially we tried to
1477
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:27,970
slow it down.
1478
01:19:27,970 --> 01:19:29,580
We knew we couldn't stop it,
1479
01:19:29,580 --> 01:19:31,577
and then at some point,
I think we just decided,
1480
01:19:31,577 --> 01:19:33,227
"You know what? It's out there.
1481
01:19:33,227 --> 01:19:35,477
"Let's embrace it and make it available
1482
01:19:35,477 --> 01:19:38,060
"through our website if
people wanna hear it."
1483
01:19:38,060 --> 01:19:40,000
- For the most part, a lot
of people were really aware
1484
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,980
of the new songs to the point
where I think a lot of people
1485
01:19:43,980 --> 01:19:46,152
in the front row, at
least, knew all the words.
1486
01:19:46,152 --> 01:19:51,152
# Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned #
1487
01:19:54,591 --> 01:19:59,591
# I miss the innocence I've known #
1488
01:20:02,381 --> 01:20:07,381
# Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned #
1489
01:20:10,432 --> 01:20:15,432
# Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned #
1490
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:23,520
# Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned #
1491
01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:27,995
# Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo #
1492
01:20:27,995 --> 01:20:32,057
# Woo-Hoo, hey #
1493
01:20:32,057 --> 01:20:36,006
# Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo #
1494
01:20:36,006 --> 01:20:38,589
# Woo-Hoo, hey #
1495
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:01,230
- After,
1496
01:21:01,230 --> 01:21:02,432
months of
1497
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,800
discussions and ruminations,
1498
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,000
we have decided to sign,
1499
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,870
the band's gonna sing to Nonesuch Records.
1500
01:21:11,870 --> 01:21:14,950
We've agreed to all the major terms, so
1501
01:21:15,810 --> 01:21:19,460
the record will come out
on Nonesuch in April.
1502
01:21:19,460 --> 01:21:22,310
I do find it ironic
1503
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:23,960
and a little humorous
1504
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,490
that Time Warner is the parent company
1505
01:21:26,490 --> 01:21:28,130
of both of these labels,
1506
01:21:28,130 --> 01:21:30,321
Reprise and Nonesuch.
1507
01:21:30,321 --> 01:21:31,512
- Are you Jeff?
- Yeah.
1508
01:21:31,512 --> 01:21:33,580
- Nice to meet you.
- You, too.
1509
01:21:33,580 --> 01:21:35,630
- [Josh] One way to put the
reason for picking Nonesuch
1510
01:21:35,630 --> 01:21:37,305
is that they were the best combination
1511
01:21:37,305 --> 01:21:40,860
of a business deal and a creative home.
1512
01:21:40,860 --> 01:21:43,960
- In hearing the record,
in the first 30 seconds,
1513
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,360
I felt that there was something going on
1514
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:47,890
with this record that I hadn't heard
1515
01:21:47,890 --> 01:21:51,705
in a Wilco record before, and that was,
1516
01:21:51,705 --> 01:21:53,478
it sounded brave to me.
1517
01:21:54,580 --> 01:21:57,545
It may have been the same 30
seconds that convinced Reprise
1518
01:21:57,545 --> 01:21:59,490
that they didn't wanna put out the record.
1519
01:21:59,490 --> 01:22:02,240
(pages flipping)
1520
01:22:06,990 --> 01:22:08,631
- [Josh] Okay, you ready
to start signing things?
1521
01:22:08,631 --> 01:22:09,464
- Mmhmm.
1522
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:13,973
Yeah, looks good.
1523
01:22:14,850 --> 01:22:17,291
- (laughs) Hold on.
1524
01:22:17,291 --> 01:22:19,350
- [Josh] One more, yup.
1525
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:21,910
This is to get paid.
1526
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:23,391
- Definitely sign that one.
1527
01:22:23,391 --> 01:22:24,667
- Okay, and I sign here.
1528
01:22:24,667 --> 01:22:26,263
- You sign there.
1529
01:22:29,527 --> 01:22:31,300
And you're back in the fire.
1530
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:32,520
- Thanks.
1531
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:33,611
- It's a deal.
1532
01:22:33,611 --> 01:22:36,622
(guitar playing)
1533
01:22:36,622 --> 01:22:39,609
# Be not so nervous #
1534
01:22:39,609 --> 01:22:43,062
# Be not so pale #
1535
01:22:43,062 --> 01:22:46,051
# Someone watches you #
1536
01:22:46,051 --> 01:22:49,251
# You will not fail #
1537
01:22:49,251 --> 01:22:54,251
# Be not so nervous, be not so pale #
1538
01:22:55,592 --> 01:23:00,592
# Be not so nervous, be not so pale #
1539
01:23:01,801 --> 01:23:06,801
# Be not so sorry for what you've done #
1540
01:23:08,331 --> 01:23:13,331
# You must forget them now, it's done #
1541
01:23:14,530 --> 01:23:16,241
# And when you wake up #
1542
01:23:16,241 --> 01:23:19,300
# You will find that you can run #
1543
01:23:19,300 --> 01:23:21,060
- [Tony] We're about two months away
1544
01:23:21,060 --> 01:23:22,770
from the record coming out.
1545
01:23:22,770 --> 01:23:24,013
Advances are here.
1546
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,390
Jeff is in town doing press,
he goes to Europe next week
1547
01:23:27,390 --> 01:23:29,503
to do press, it all begins now.
1548
01:23:30,671 --> 01:23:35,671
# Be not so fearful, be not so frail #
1549
01:23:36,913 --> 01:23:38,993
# Someone watches you #
1550
01:23:38,993 --> 01:23:42,081
# You will not leave the rails #
1551
01:23:42,081 --> 01:23:44,173
- [David voiceover] What are
we, almost eight or nine months
1552
01:23:44,173 --> 01:23:46,015
since the record was
originally planned to come out
1553
01:23:46,015 --> 01:23:47,438
on another label?
1554
01:23:47,438 --> 01:23:50,467
It's been a long road,
but it's the beginning.
1555
01:23:50,467 --> 01:23:55,467
# Be not so fearful, be not so pale #
1556
01:23:56,816 --> 01:24:01,816
# Be not so sorry for what you've done #
1557
01:24:03,356 --> 01:24:06,120
# You must forget them now, it's done #
1558
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,568
- [David] We couldn't be more excited
1559
01:24:07,568 --> 01:24:09,610
about the longterm prospects of being able
1560
01:24:09,610 --> 01:24:10,979
to work with this band.
1561
01:24:10,979 --> 01:24:15,979
# You will find that you can run #
1562
01:24:16,098 --> 01:24:19,840
# Be not so sorry for what you've done #
1563
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,740
- It's a long road to here, but you know,
1564
01:24:22,740 --> 01:24:25,548
it's a new chapter now, and we're,
1565
01:24:25,548 --> 01:24:27,247
couldn't be more optimistic.
1566
01:24:27,247 --> 01:24:29,119
(drums playing)
1567
01:24:29,119 --> 01:24:31,869
(crowd cheering)
1568
01:24:41,944 --> 01:24:45,233
Choo-Choo Charlie had a plenty good band
1569
01:24:45,233 --> 01:24:50,233
# But he couldn't understand
why no one would go #
1570
01:24:52,934 --> 01:24:56,333
# The World Record Players
on a tour of Japan #
1571
01:24:56,333 --> 01:25:01,333
# Charlie's fixing his
van with a left arm tan #
1572
01:25:03,334 --> 01:25:04,167
# He said, #
1573
01:25:04,167 --> 01:25:08,134
# Monday, I'm all high #
1574
01:25:08,134 --> 01:25:11,094
# Get me out of FLA #
1575
01:25:11,094 --> 01:25:12,784
# In school, yeah #
1576
01:25:12,784 --> 01:25:15,094
# I fooled ya #
1577
01:25:15,094 --> 01:25:18,927
# Now I know I made a mistake #
1578
01:25:26,414 --> 01:25:29,355
# Blister on a turnpike, let me by #
1579
01:25:29,355 --> 01:25:34,355
# I only want to wonder
why when I don't die #
1580
01:25:37,193 --> 01:25:41,003
# Ooh, I shot you, yeah, I know #
1581
01:25:41,003 --> 01:25:46,003
# I only want to go where my wheels roll #
1582
01:25:48,414 --> 01:25:52,475
# Monday, I'm all high #
1583
01:25:52,475 --> 01:25:55,414
# Get me out FLA #
1584
01:25:55,414 --> 01:25:59,363
# I fooled ya in school, yeah #
1585
01:25:59,363 --> 01:26:03,144
# Now I know I made a mistake #
1586
01:26:03,144 --> 01:26:06,144
(upbeat rock music)
1587
01:26:18,896 --> 01:26:21,646
(Jeff whistling)
1588
01:26:36,292 --> 01:26:39,444
# Everybody's wondering where'd he go #
1589
01:26:39,444 --> 01:26:44,444
# He must be down in Pensacola
hiding from the snow #
1590
01:26:47,263 --> 01:26:50,632
# The World Record Players
on a tour of Japan #
1591
01:26:50,632 --> 01:26:53,194
# Charlie's fixin' his van #
1592
01:26:53,194 --> 01:26:57,622
# He's waiting for a postcard #
1593
01:26:57,622 --> 01:26:58,455
# And he said #
1594
01:26:58,455 --> 01:27:02,183
# Monday, I'm all high #
1595
01:27:02,183 --> 01:27:04,924
# Get me out of FLA #
1596
01:27:04,924 --> 01:27:06,911
# Well, I cut class #
1597
01:27:06,911 --> 01:27:09,054
# In school, yeah #
1598
01:27:09,054 --> 01:27:13,414
# Now I know I made a mistake #
1599
01:27:13,414 --> 01:27:15,081
I made a big mistake
1600
01:27:17,234 --> 01:27:18,601
(Jeff screaming)
1601
01:27:48,977 --> 01:27:50,464
# All right #
1602
01:27:50,464 --> 01:27:52,230
# All right #
1603
01:27:52,230 --> 01:27:53,963
# All right #
1604
01:27:53,963 --> 01:27:55,692
# All right #
1605
01:27:55,692 --> 01:27:57,613
# All right #
1606
01:27:57,613 --> 01:27:59,414
# All right #
1607
01:27:59,414 --> 01:28:01,192
# All right #
1608
01:28:01,192 --> 01:28:03,374
# All right #
1609
01:28:03,374 --> 01:28:06,124
(crowd cheering)
1610
01:28:11,390 --> 01:28:12,481
- [Tony] That's the coup,
1611
01:28:12,481 --> 01:28:15,323
that's like the coup of all time for us.
1612
01:28:16,990 --> 01:28:19,450
To basically get, you know,
1613
01:28:19,450 --> 01:28:23,190
one of the biggest entertainment
corporations in the world
1614
01:28:23,190 --> 01:28:27,900
to release us from a contract,
essentially scot-free
1615
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:30,630
with a record that they
had already paid for
1616
01:28:30,630 --> 01:28:33,850
and then sell it back to them
for three times the money.
1617
01:28:33,850 --> 01:28:35,840
They disliked the record
so much that they paid
1618
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,293
for it twice. (laughs)
1619
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,640
- [Voiceover] Hold your breath,
1620
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,793
make a wish, count to three.
1621
01:28:53,123 --> 01:28:56,803
# Come with me, and you'll be #
1622
01:28:56,803 --> 01:29:01,083
# In a world of pure imagination #
1623
01:29:01,083 --> 01:29:04,461
# Take a look, and you'll see #
1624
01:29:04,461 --> 01:29:09,461
# Into your imagination #
1625
01:29:14,271 --> 01:29:18,091
# We'll begin with a spin #
1626
01:29:18,091 --> 01:29:22,323
# Traveling in the world of my creation #
1627
01:29:22,323 --> 01:29:27,162
# What we'll see will defy #
1628
01:29:27,162 --> 01:29:29,662
# Explanation #
1629
01:29:39,803 --> 01:29:43,562
# If you want to view paradise #
1630
01:29:43,562 --> 01:29:48,031
# Simply look around and view it #
1631
01:29:48,031 --> 01:29:52,011
# Anything you want to, do it #
1632
01:29:52,011 --> 01:29:55,690
# Want to change the world #
1633
01:29:55,690 --> 01:29:58,963
# There's nothing to it #
1634
01:29:58,963 --> 01:30:01,463
(light music)
1635
01:30:16,123 --> 01:30:18,832
# There is no life I know #
1636
01:30:18,832 --> 01:30:22,181
# To compare with pure imagination #
1637
01:30:22,181 --> 01:30:25,352
# Living there you'll be free #
1638
01:30:25,352 --> 01:30:28,852
# If you truly wish to be #
1639
01:31:10,370 --> 01:31:14,327
# If you want to view paradise #
1640
01:31:14,327 --> 01:31:18,019
# Simply look around and view it #
1641
01:31:18,019 --> 01:31:22,100
# Anything you want to, do it #
1642
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:24,791
# Want to change the world #
1643
01:31:24,791 --> 01:31:27,517
# There's nothing #
1644
01:31:27,517 --> 01:31:29,517
# To it #
1645
01:31:40,648 --> 01:31:45,648
# There is no life I know #
1646
01:31:46,086 --> 01:31:51,086
# To compare with pure imagination #
1647
01:31:52,487 --> 01:31:55,886
# Living there #
1648
01:31:55,886 --> 01:31:58,988
# You'll be free #
1649
01:31:58,988 --> 01:32:03,988
# If you truly #
1650
01:32:04,287 --> 01:32:06,505
# Wish #
1651
01:32:06,505 --> 01:32:08,505
# To be #
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