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C.J.:
"Why?"
That's the right question.
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Your bread and butter, huh,
having the right questions.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
Like having the right
answers is yours.
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Did we start?
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Oh, don't mind them.
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Right, right.
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Why am I letting you tail me,
is that what you're asking?
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Yeah, I mean, I pitch,
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but I'm always surprised
when people accept.
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Well, I'd seen your work.
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Well, exactly.
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And, um, you know,
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I'm not expecting
a free ride, I just,
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I guess I thought your...
your concept:
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a day in the life--
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a day in my life, is, uh...
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You know what,
before we get into it,
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I want to reiterate
the ground rules.
Mm-hmm.
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You want to document this, Chad.
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Let me have that.
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I want to be clear
between you and me.
Of course.
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Your access is to me.
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And your staff and
your coworkers.
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Yes, but if you're secretly
hoping to have lots of time
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with Senior Staff or in the Oval
you picked the wrong gal,
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'cause that's not what I do
all day.
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I can't let this project
in any way
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compromise my obligations
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to the President
of the United States.
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That was bragging.
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Let's get back to "Why?"
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Well, I think...
and this is an answer
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that's too long-winded
for you to use, but...
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C.J.:
After President Bartlet,
my face is the one
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most associated
with this administration;
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yet, for all its visibility,
it's not well understood.
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The public is used to seeing me
at the podium,
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confronting
an adversarial press.
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And there's a-a misconception
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that I'm here
to stymie reporters
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or to mislead the public--
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to spin or even hide the truth,
when, in fact,
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any good Press Secretary
aims to do just the opposite.
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( laughing ):
This is a terrible idea.
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I don't know
what I was thinking.
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This is-- let's...
let's call this off.
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The break-neck pace we live at.
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The 24-hour news cycle.
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Is this good for the country?
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Is it inescapable?
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How do we reflect,
get perspective?
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
Since the advent of television,
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in the middle
of the 20th century,
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the White House Press Secretary
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has been no stranger
to Americans.
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But what about the private
aspects of this office?
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In the current media explosion,
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how is this important job
changing?
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And to what extent does
the individual serving
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as Press Secretary,
at any given moment,
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define America's relationship
with the White House?
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To answer these questions,
Access spent a day
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with White House
Press Secretary C.J. Cregg.
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( press shouting questions )
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C.J.:
I see my job
as making sure the press,
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and, through them,
the public is well-informed.
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I tell them the truth.
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That's my goal.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
But our cameras captured a day
that was anything but
ordinary.
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In the corridors
of the West Wing,
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Access became part
of the modern media machine
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that witnessed
a harrowing and historic day
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for the entire
Bartlet Administration.
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Tonight, Access goes
"Behind the Podium,"
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and we invite you
to come with us.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
This program was shot
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over a two-day period,
a year into
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President Josiah Bartlet's
second term in office.
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On the first day, Access
conducted private interviews
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with Press Secretary
C.J. Cregg,
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as well as her staff
and coworkers.
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The following day,
we spent over 12 hours
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backstage in the West Wing
of the White House
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on the heels of the country's
most visible spokesperson.
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However,
for national security
purposes,
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the release of this documentary
was prohibited
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until the administration
left office.
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Before 24-hour cable news
and the Internet,
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the White House Press Secretary
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had a more controlled
set of deadlines.
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Today the press office
feeds a media machine
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with a round-the-clock
appetite.
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The following
is the press schedule
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for the President
for Wednesday, March 31.
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Note:
This is for news planning only,
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not for publication or release.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
66 million Americans
subscribe to daily newspapers.
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An average news Web site
clocks 200 hits a second.
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And from a camera positioned
outside the northwest gate,
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CNN's Channel 53 offers
constant coverage
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of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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I don't think it was ever
a laid-back job.
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( laughs )
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But, um, I like to think
that Jim Haggerty,
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who was Eisenhower's
Press Secretary,
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kind of knew what they were
getting into when they...
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they started allowing press
conferences to be recorded
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and edited for broadcast
for the first time.
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Giving up control
of your message,
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putting that in the hands
of news producers.
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For those 33 minutes
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Haggerty stood in the wings
of the Indian Treaty Room.
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I can only imagine
what he was feeling.
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I see we're trying
a new experiment this morning.
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I hope it doesn't prove to be
a disturbing influence.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
Before Eisenhower,
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the White House press corps
was on a short leash,
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a controllable entity tucked
in the President's pocket.
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But in 1955,
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the whir of cameras
leveled the playing field
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between the press
and the Administration.
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It represented
a fundamental shift in power,
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one still deeply felt
by today's Press Secretary.
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Good morning, Ms. Cregg.
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ID, please?
Hey, Lance.
How you doing?
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Can I get IDs
from your crew?
Sure.
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My day starts at home
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before 5:00, actually.
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I scan all the major news
outlets online
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before I get dressed.
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On my way in,
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I try to stay off the phone.
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My commute is the one time
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I can be by myself,
gather my thoughts.
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How's Eden?
Oh, she's great.
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Good.
Thanks for asking.
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Clear. Very good.
Thank you.
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Have a great day.
( horn honking )
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Thank you. Stay dry.
Relax.
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( phone rings )
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White House Press Office.
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C.J.:
I arrive usually around 7:00,
7:30, depending.
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And it is no cliche--
walking through those doors,
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walking to go to work
in the White House...
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it never gets old.
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Anyway, the morning starts
with Senior Staff,
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and then I have an informal
gaggle with the press,
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and then I meet
with my staff and deputies
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about the events of the day.
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8:30 a.m.:
The President meets
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with House
and Senate Leadership.
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Cabinet Room, the White House.
Pool at top.
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Is anybody
waiting for me?
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Steve and Chris.
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Is she chatty?
Mm-hmm.
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Oh, that's trouble.
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Is he on
the President's schedule?
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Who?
The FBI Director.
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I don't think so.
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CAROL:
Steve's looking for a quote
on tech sector growth.
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C.J.:
Steve, I beg mercy.
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Don't make me talk tech
growth before coffee.
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Morning.
I will say this though,
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the tech sector represents
six million American jobs.
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That I can look up.
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Hey, did your daughter
hear anything?
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Accepted at the Annenberg
School and at Penn.
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That's wonderful.
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Isn't that great?
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Fantastic.
Thank you.
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What have you got?
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Well, you're not
going to like it.
I never expect to.
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At last year's inaugural,
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the First Lady
wore a burgundy
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Richard Tyler gown.
Satin, off the shoulder.
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I have a source that says
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she accepted that gown
as a gift from the designer.
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The ethics rules
are pretty clear.
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Looks like I'll be
rifling through
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the First Lady's
closet this afternoon.
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You could get fired
for that.
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If I'm lucky.
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Today's schedule
and it's time.
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C.J.:
You can't afford to ignore
what even seems trivial.
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And I have a call
into the First Lady's office.
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The Minister's
wife has a cold,
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and she can't make
it onto the podium.
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C.J.:
Remember the
"Bartlet the Dog-Hater"?
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That was...
that was entirely my fault.
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I-I made light of some question
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about why the Bartlet's
had never owned a dog,
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and there were stories
for weeks.
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( press shouting questions )
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It was a joke, folks.
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It was my joke
and it wasn't even funny.
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The President does not
dislike dogs.
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In fact, the entire First Family
have been long-time supporters
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of the Humane Society,
the ASPCA, to name a few.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
Each morning
the Press Secretary meets
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with White House Senior Staff--
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the President's
closest advisors.
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Scheduled at 7:30 a.m.,
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this is the staff's
first opportunity
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to sift through the day's
impending events and issues.
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C.J.:
Your day takes off.
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You try to keep all the balls
in the air.
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You hope you don't drop
the wrong one.
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LEO:
What else?
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TOBY:
Well, while the President
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is greeting the
Ugandan delegation,
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which I guess
is going to happen later,
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I'll be, um, briefed
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by the Surgeon General
and the AIDS Policy Office.
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They want to make
modifications on PAPP.
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Pan-African... ?
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AIDS Prevention Policy.
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TOBY:
C.J. was someone I found
during a senatorial campaign
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in New York.
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Uh, she was doing P.R.
with a New York firm.
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And, uh, we were probably
36 points behind
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when we got C.J.,
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and, uh, with her help,
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I think we gained two
or three points before we lost.
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LEO:
Anything else?
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Any progress
on The D day anniversary?
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Did the FBI put something
on the President's schedule?
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LEO:
Who's asking?
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So far, just me.
No.
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JOSH:
There have been times where,
for her own sake,
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in order to do her job
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and for her to remain an honest
source for reporters...
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Well, you know, if the reporters
see the Director here...
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LEO:
Yeah, he's just
stopping by.
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Okay.
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JOSH:
If she were
to have information,
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she would be ethically bound
to share it,
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and I don't want to put her
in that position.
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It is a tough job,
and it only gets tougher.
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Now, we have a fraternity
of former Press Secretaries
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and we get together.
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It's like sort of a club.
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I think there's maybe eight
or so guys still kicking.
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But we all know what it's like
to stand out there,
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taking those bullets,
the shrapnel's flying,
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while the rest
of the President's staff
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is back in the bunker,
safe and sound--
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where they should be.
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You see, there's a... there's
a loneliness in this job.
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A certain frontline mentality
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that your colleagues
in the rear echelon
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never completely understand.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
The majority of the President's
daily exposure to the press
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is in photos-only pools.
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Still-photographers
and news correspondents
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wait their turn
for a prized 30 seconds
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in the presence
of the President.
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The organized chaos
of this flashbulb frenzy
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is carefully wrangled
by the Press Office--
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a staff of 14 young aides
and assistants under C.J.
Cregg.
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So, how did you end up
working at the White House?
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I was going to NYU,
I was a journalism major,
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and I was interested
in politics.
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And, um, the opportunity came up
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through some friends
of the family--
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my father was in the military.
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JACK SOSA:
I actually went
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to Howard University,
here in DC.
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I wrote for the paper,
the student paper there.
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And I was writing articles
basically...
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criticizing the Administration,
really,
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about their issues on gay issues
and racial issues.
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And I, on a lark, kind of wrote
this letter to C.J.
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asking if she'd see me,
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because I wasn't getting
really a response from them,
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and I just thought
I'd give it a shot.
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And at the meeting,
she actually offered me
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this position that opened up.
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All right, that's it.
I'm serious.
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10:30 a.m., the President meets
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with Minister of Health
Dr. Fabius...
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M-A-K-A-B-U-A...
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
Then it's time for
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the Press Secretary's
daily meeting...
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Good morning.
Come on in.
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...with her
communications staff,
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who finalize the day's
press events
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and try to anticipate
the direction of the news.
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Andrew?
The Ugandans are
on schedule.
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Set-up's begun.
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It's a little
windy out there,
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but I spoke to Audio
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and they said the mics on
the podiums will be fine.
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The President is not
taking questions at that.
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It's just
the prepared statement.
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CAROL:
They know that.
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Let's hope he does.
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ANDREW:
Oh, they might ask
you something
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about Congresswoman Wyatt
getting chummy
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with the Palestinians.
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Okay.
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And we've had a change
in the schedule.
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( all groaning )
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C.J.:
You begin every day juggling
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a very precise schedule
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which completely,
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completely falls apart
midmorning, guaranteed.
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You know, those
Eagle Rangers--
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they apparently got lost.
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So we're going to have
to postpone until 2:00.
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CAROL:
And there might be
a weather thing.
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We like the Rose Garden
for this.
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Yeah, but the
satellite service says
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there's still only
a 30% chance of rain,
so we might be fine.
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Have you looked
out the window?
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Just keep an eye on it
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and make sure there's
a backup plan. What else?
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ANDREW:
If you're looking
for me, I'll be with
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Vatican advance
all day,
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discussing his Eminence's
imminent arrival.
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I think it's
"His Holiness."
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Good thing.
Eminence's imminent.
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Say that
three times fast.
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ALL:
Eminence's imminent...
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All right, all right,
everybody, back to work.
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Oh, who's following
breaking crime news for me?
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Me. Nothing coming in that
suggests FBI involvement.
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Just keeping Eric
on his toes.
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Everybody get back to work,
go on.
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CAROL:
Okay, hold on
one second.
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C.J.
Yeah.
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I am here to articulate
the President's message
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and to honestly inform
the press,
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and through them, the public,
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about what is happening
on any given day.
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They need you
in Leo's now.
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All of us?
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Uh... they didn't say.
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Okay, no big deal.
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Okay.
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I'm so sorry.
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It's all right.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
You think the Director
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of the FBI will
let us in this?
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Hard to tell.
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I gather he's a pretty
independent guy.
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He is.
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And not afraid
of the limelight.
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So, typical
morning so far?
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Yes and no.
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Because we're here?
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I don't have to tell you
about the Heisenberg Principle.
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"The act of observing a
phenomenon changes it."
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Yes.
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They... they signed
the waivers.
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I see you're filming.
Yeah?
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Uh, wait a minute.
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Good work.
Thank you.
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It's nice to meet you.
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Director Arnold,
this is Todd Schumaker
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and Agent Casper.
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Director Arnold has
a situation unfolding.
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It's not for White House
comment at this time.
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In fact, we don't believe
you'll be asked about it.
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But the Director thought
you should be made aware.
365
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Oh, well,
I appreciate that.
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We have six federal agents
surrounding a remote cabin
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on Shaw Island,
in the San Juans--
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20 miles off the coast
of Washington State.
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A man named Jamal Othman,
a naturalized Yemeni-American,
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is inside with his family.
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I'm sorry, is he being
brought up on charges, or...?
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Othman was under
investigation for
arms trafficking.
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Our agents tracked him
to his current location
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where gunfire
was exchanged
90 minutes ago.
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Gunfire?
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LEO:
The President
has been notified.
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We'll let you know
when it resolves.
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I'm sorry,
but why do you think
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I'm not going to be asked
questions about this?
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JOSH:
Shaw Island is
only accessible
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by ferry and
by float plane.
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If the story breaks,
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it'll take news crews about
45 minutes, an hour and a half.
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I've got a briefing
in a half hour...
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Our Seattle field office
media rep is already
setting up on site.
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If it comes to it, he's prepared
to handle the press from there.
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But when you say gunfire,
I mean...
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Thank you, C.J.,
we'll... Thank you.
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Thank you.
All right. I'm just...
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C.J.:
I am here to articulate
the President's message
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and to honestly inform
the press,
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and through them the public,
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on what is happening
on any given day.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
When we return...
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C.J., they have it.
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( reporters clamoring)
...breaking news explodes
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a quiet day in the White House.
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C.J.:
Excuse me. I'm sorry...
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( laughing ):
You have to calm down, lady.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
Early in the day, before
the televised briefing,
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reporters from
the major outlets meet
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for an informal gaggle
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with the Press Secretary.
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Why was the FBI
Director here today?
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He briefs
the President
twice a week.
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Which he did yesterday,
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00:15:14,481 --> 00:15:16,183
so I thought maybe
something was up.
Let me find out.
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00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:17,284
But as far
as you know?
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He's briefing the President.
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MAN:
Is there a danger that
the President's meeting
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with Dr. Makabuya
this morning...?
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C.J.:
Do I ever have to lie
to the press?
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Sometimes... lots of times
I withhold information
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for valid reasons,
but you can't lie.
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You run the risk of damaging
your credibility
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in front of a bunch
of really smart people,
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and if they stop trusting you,
the system's broken.
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DOCUMENTARIAN:
Do you think she ever
has to lie to the press?
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00:15:38,705 --> 00:15:40,740
Gosh, that's a tough
question to answer
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in front of the camera.
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00:15:43,443 --> 00:15:45,612
No, I don't think C.J. lies.
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00:15:45,678 --> 00:15:47,947
I think that
the Press Secretary
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must present what's best
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for the White House
and what's best for the country,
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00:15:52,385 --> 00:15:54,687
and sometimes those are
hard decisions to make.
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00:15:54,754 --> 00:15:56,990
...not over. Speaking of which,
we need to wrap up.
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MAN:
Am I skeptical of what
she tells me? Absolutely.
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It's my job to be skeptical.
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00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:05,532
Listen, the public relies on me
to question their White House.
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00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:07,667
We get to do that
in a free society.
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00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:10,237
You can say that's at
the core of our freedom.
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00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:11,771
We get to question power.
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00:16:11,838 --> 00:16:14,441
Yeah, I don't...
I don't buy into that.
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I mean, the truth I know
is an elusive idea,
435
00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:21,548
but there is a time and a place
for when certain facts
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can be dispensed
to the press and to the public.
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00:16:24,851 --> 00:16:27,087
DOCUMENTARIAN:
What prepares a young girl,
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born and raised
in Dayton, Ohio,
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00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:31,291
for a position as spokesperson
for the White House
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and president
of the United States?
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00:16:34,361 --> 00:16:36,629
C.J.:
Well, I got a lot of drive
from my father,
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00:16:36,696 --> 00:16:39,666
but it's actually my mother
who I think about
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00:16:39,732 --> 00:16:41,868
almost every single day
I'm here.
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00:16:41,934 --> 00:16:45,105
She was like a lot of women--
for better or for worse--
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00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:47,040
the communicator
in our family;
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00:16:47,107 --> 00:16:48,675
the go-between.
447
00:16:48,741 --> 00:16:52,112
She, um, she told us what-what
my dad and Grandpa had said,
448
00:16:52,179 --> 00:16:54,647
or she softened what
they had meant to say.
449
00:16:54,714 --> 00:16:55,948
She was a natural.
450
00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:57,784
She would have understood
this job.
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00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,653
The Pope will have the chair
that we agreed upon...
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00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,156
C.J.:
One of the hardest things
to learn--
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there are so many true crises,
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so many lurking situations
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00:17:07,194 --> 00:17:08,295
that could be dangerous
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00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:09,929
for the President,
457
00:17:09,996 --> 00:17:11,764
it's hard not to get caught up
in the adrenaline
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00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:12,765
and make everything lethal.
459
00:17:12,832 --> 00:17:14,033
...expressed interest
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00:17:14,101 --> 00:17:15,302
in allowing
the President's audience
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00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:16,803
to be shared with the public.
462
00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,305
What does that involve?
463
00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:20,840
Shots of the President
kissing his ring?
464
00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:23,643
Are you uncomfortable
asking for this adjustment?
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00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:24,744
Is the Pope Catholic?
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00:17:24,811 --> 00:17:26,413
Uh, excuse us.
467
00:17:26,479 --> 00:17:27,814
I'm sorry, would you excuse us
for just a moment please?
468
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,482
Excuse me.
469
00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:31,684
He's going to chastise
the President on birth control,
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00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:33,186
in front of members
of the press...
471
00:17:33,253 --> 00:17:34,587
Okay, you're not
listening to me.
472
00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:36,156
You need to go back
in there and apologize.
473
00:17:36,223 --> 00:17:37,790
If President Bartlet
doesn't want
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his private audience with the
Pope to be public, it won't be.
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00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:44,464
If he does, that's a headache
way over your pay grade, okay?
476
00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:45,998
Okay.
477
00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:48,368
C.J.:
It's more
than picking your battles...
478
00:17:48,435 --> 00:17:50,103
marshaling your energy...
479
00:17:50,170 --> 00:17:51,538
I understand.
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00:17:51,604 --> 00:17:53,140
He will just take that.
Thank you.
481
00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:54,707
It's about grace under fire.
482
00:17:54,774 --> 00:17:57,810
All war metaphors.
483
00:17:57,877 --> 00:17:59,612
I guess that's it--
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00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:02,782
being able to tell when it's
a matter of life or death.
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00:18:02,849 --> 00:18:04,217
Where's your
mother now?
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00:18:04,284 --> 00:18:05,585
She died.
487
00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:06,586
Oh, I'm sorry.
488
00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:07,987
That's okay.
489
00:18:08,054 --> 00:18:10,123
How about your father?
490
00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:12,825
He's uh...
he's in Dayton, Ohio.
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00:18:12,892 --> 00:18:14,227
And how's he?
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00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:15,862
He's, um...
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00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:19,899
actually he's suffering
from Alzheimer's.
494
00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:22,435
I know that her dad
is struggling, and I think
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00:18:22,502 --> 00:18:24,103
that's the perfect example.
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00:18:24,171 --> 00:18:25,838
I mean,
in any other profession,
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00:18:25,905 --> 00:18:27,207
she would have the time...
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00:18:27,274 --> 00:18:28,741
She is knowingly
499
00:18:28,808 --> 00:18:34,447
not doing what she needs to do
to be with her father,
500
00:18:34,514 --> 00:18:36,883
who is elderly and struggling,
501
00:18:36,949 --> 00:18:39,452
because she has this particular
502
00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:41,388
opportunity and position.
503
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:44,391
That's a very difficult
choice to make.
504
00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:45,825
I don't think she has...
505
00:18:45,892 --> 00:18:48,461
I think she understands
the choice she's making,
506
00:18:48,528 --> 00:18:50,463
and I think it's also the choice
507
00:18:50,530 --> 00:18:52,399
that her father would want
her to make,
508
00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:54,133
and I think she knows that.
509
00:18:54,201 --> 00:18:55,735
But it makes it very difficult.
510
00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:59,239
I think that she has
such great instincts.
511
00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:01,641
I think that she is so agile,
512
00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:08,315
and her wit and her charm,
and I think that people--
513
00:19:08,381 --> 00:19:10,450
the press really respect her,
514
00:19:10,517 --> 00:19:13,186
and so that she can keep
a very strong
515
00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:16,189
but friendly relationship
with the press.
516
00:19:16,256 --> 00:19:17,557
And I think
that that's important.
517
00:19:17,624 --> 00:19:19,292
I mean, what do I know,
but this is my opinion.
518
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,861
You are interviewing me.
519
00:19:21,928 --> 00:19:22,929
3:00?
No.
520
00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:24,096
3:15?
No.
521
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:25,832
3:30?
No.
522
00:19:25,898 --> 00:19:26,833
3:45?
523
00:19:26,899 --> 00:19:27,867
He has a conference call.
524
00:19:27,934 --> 00:19:29,402
4:00?
525
00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:30,937
He has an NEC thing
at 4:00 that I can't push.
526
00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:33,606
Well, if the Eagle Troops
make it back to civilization,
527
00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:34,941
we can move it
to the Mural Room
528
00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:35,942
and make it a spray.
529
00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,009
What time?
530
00:19:37,076 --> 00:19:37,910
4:30.
531
00:19:37,977 --> 00:19:38,945
No.
532
00:19:43,483 --> 00:19:46,419
MAN:
Are you the sound guy?
533
00:19:46,486 --> 00:19:49,188
I'm supposed to make sure
the levels aren't too high.
534
00:19:49,256 --> 00:19:51,358
Because last time
there was some feedback,
535
00:19:51,424 --> 00:19:52,392
and it's, um...
536
00:19:52,459 --> 00:19:54,594
Do you need help with that?
537
00:19:54,661 --> 00:19:55,828
You know why I'm asking?
538
00:19:55,895 --> 00:19:57,430
Because
he's about to head out...
539
00:19:57,497 --> 00:19:58,898
( "Hail to The Chief" playing)
540
00:19:58,965 --> 00:19:59,899
Correction--
541
00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:00,900
he is heading out.
542
00:20:00,967 --> 00:20:02,302
I told them to wait until...
543
00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:03,670
Ay-yi, yi, yi, yi!
544
00:20:03,736 --> 00:20:04,771
JOSH:
Are you nervous
about this?
545
00:20:04,837 --> 00:20:06,105
Of course I'm nervous.
546
00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:07,840
I've got him in front of
cameras, and you're not...
547
00:20:07,907 --> 00:20:09,742
What do you want to hear
from me, that I'm panicked, too?
548
00:20:09,809 --> 00:20:12,078
You know what?
549
00:20:12,144 --> 00:20:13,179
The director said this was going
550
00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:14,414
to be settled an hour ago.
551
00:20:14,481 --> 00:20:15,515
Yesterday,
Secretary Berry
hill
552
00:20:15,582 --> 00:20:16,816
characterized
USAID funds
553
00:20:16,883 --> 00:20:18,885
as a cash cow for
Cuban dissidents...
554
00:20:18,951 --> 00:20:20,287
Are you watching this?
555
00:20:20,353 --> 00:20:21,621
He's taking...
The Ugandans are...
556
00:20:21,688 --> 00:20:23,122
CAROL:
He's taking a question!
557
00:20:23,189 --> 00:20:25,024
I know, I'm watching.
He's taking a question.
558
00:20:25,091 --> 00:20:28,395
Both Secretary Berry hill
and myself are deeply troubled
559
00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:31,831
by the repeated jailings
of political dissidents in Cuba.
560
00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:33,165
Oh, boy.
561
00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:36,102
Especially as 15,000 desperate
Cuban citizens continue
562
00:20:36,168 --> 00:20:39,038
to risk life and limb
to reach our shores every year.
563
00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:43,142
America looks forward to the day
when aid to Cuban citizens
564
00:20:43,209 --> 00:20:45,044
will no longer be necessary.
565
00:20:45,111 --> 00:20:46,313
( reporters clamoring )
566
00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:47,514
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
567
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:48,581
He never says it exactly
the way I would,
568
00:20:48,648 --> 00:20:51,918
but that's the fun part.
569
00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:53,353
C.J., they have it.
Hold on.
570
00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:54,321
I got to go.
571
00:20:54,387 --> 00:20:55,722
Who has what?
572
00:20:55,788 --> 00:20:57,824
Someone just called in
to a radio drive-time
573
00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:58,925
from Shaw Island.
574
00:20:58,991 --> 00:21:00,727
Said federal agents
set up a perimeter
575
00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:01,961
on the property
adjoining his.
576
00:21:02,028 --> 00:21:03,563
Was gunfire mentioned?
577
00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:04,364
Yeah.
578
00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:05,698
Okay. Uh...
579
00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:07,066
What do we do?
580
00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:09,168
She's a great teacher,
581
00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:10,637
is what she is.
582
00:21:10,703 --> 00:21:14,006
And I think my job really is
to protect her--
583
00:21:14,073 --> 00:21:15,842
to help her
protect the President.
584
00:21:15,908 --> 00:21:18,210
I pulled the records
you asked for from Casey Creek.
585
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,846
The investigation
and the Commission report.
586
00:21:19,912 --> 00:21:21,681
They're on your desk.
It's that blue binder.
587
00:21:21,748 --> 00:21:24,016
The FBI is predicting 45 minutes
for cameras to be on the scene.
588
00:21:24,083 --> 00:21:25,618
I'm betting there's
aerial coverage in 20.
589
00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:29,255
Hey, poker face.
590
00:21:29,322 --> 00:21:30,357
When it breaks,
try to look surprised.
591
00:21:30,423 --> 00:21:31,858
Yeah.
592
00:21:31,924 --> 00:21:33,593
REPORTER:
We're showing you live images
593
00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:34,861
from Shaw Island, Washington.
594
00:21:34,927 --> 00:21:36,963
DOCUMENTARIAN:
And, 23 minutes later,
595
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:39,732
MSNBC carried live helicopter
coverage of Shaw Island.
596
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:42,201
REPORTER:
...Othman, a suspected
arms trafficker
597
00:21:42,268 --> 00:21:45,237
appears to have sequestered
himself in a small cabin
598
00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:46,739
in the northwest corner
of the island.
599
00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:48,441
There has been
no official comment...
600
00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:49,976
My guy says
they'd absolutely
601
00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:51,277
use the girl as decoy...
602
00:21:51,344 --> 00:21:52,912
It's in the section
on crisis management.
603
00:21:52,979 --> 00:21:54,447
Use of deadly force...
604
00:21:54,514 --> 00:21:57,550
REPORTER 2:
...where gunfire was exchanged
two hours ago,
605
00:21:57,617 --> 00:22:00,252
federal agents have cordoned
off the area...
606
00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:01,588
There's a misconception
607
00:22:01,654 --> 00:22:03,289
that I'm here
to stymie reporters,
608
00:22:03,356 --> 00:22:06,559
or to mislead the public,
to spin or even hide the truth,
609
00:22:06,626 --> 00:22:08,761
when, in fact,
any good press secretary
610
00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:10,497
aims to do just the opposite.
611
00:22:10,563 --> 00:22:11,664
So, the FBI Director?
612
00:22:11,731 --> 00:22:13,199
I still don't have it, Greg.
613
00:22:13,265 --> 00:22:14,567
MARK:
C.J.?
614
00:22:14,634 --> 00:22:16,035
Mark, I don't
have anything yet.
615
00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:17,604
No comment on the dog?
616
00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:19,739
The dog?
My guy's got a vet
on Shaw Island
617
00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:21,741
says the Othman family
dog is in his office
618
00:22:21,808 --> 00:22:23,443
with an FBI agent's
bullet in it.
619
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:26,479
Is this gonna be
another Casey Creek?
620
00:22:26,546 --> 00:22:28,247
TV REPORTER:
...since the initial outburst
this morning.
621
00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:30,850
Again, state and local
authorities have recently...
622
00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:32,251
Off the record...
623
00:22:32,318 --> 00:22:34,253
I hope not.
624
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,789
DOCUMENTARIAN:
Five years earlier,
the FBI's mishandling
625
00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:38,825
of a standoff
in Casey Creek, Kentucky,
626
00:22:38,891 --> 00:22:42,061
which resulted in the shooting
death of the suspect's wife,
627
00:22:42,128 --> 00:22:45,164
was a tragedy that haunted
the new President's first
term.
628
00:22:45,231 --> 00:22:47,934
But if the incident
at Casey Creek was a tragedy,
629
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,302
the investigation that followed
was considered by many
630
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:52,405
to be an extended farce.
631
00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:56,075
Instead, the FBI
will strictly adhere...
632
00:22:56,142 --> 00:22:59,211
...the FBI director is still
failing to cooperate,
633
00:22:59,278 --> 00:23:01,113
and impeding their progress.
634
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:03,215
There were calls
for the director to step down
635
00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:05,284
and calls for the President
to fire him.
636
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:09,589
The FBI... has confirmed...
637
00:23:09,656 --> 00:23:11,591
the tragic loss
of Brian Angeletti.
638
00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:13,225
Casey Creek also haunted
639
00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:15,895
President Bartlet's
young press secretary.
640
00:23:15,962 --> 00:23:18,698
C.J. Cregg's naivetรฉ
about the power of her podium
641
00:23:18,765 --> 00:23:20,533
led many to question
her abilities
642
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,101
to extract and deliver
643
00:23:22,168 --> 00:23:23,636
the news of the nation.
644
00:23:23,703 --> 00:23:25,638
It would be months
before she regained
645
00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:28,307
the confidence
of the White House press corps
646
00:23:28,374 --> 00:23:31,711
and the Bartlet Administration.
647
00:23:31,778 --> 00:23:34,947
C. J., did the agent mistake
Pamela Charlton for her husband
648
00:23:35,014 --> 00:23:36,616
when they shot her
in the doorway of her home?
649
00:23:36,683 --> 00:23:38,050
I can't speak to specifics.
650
00:23:38,117 --> 00:23:39,952
I can tell you the Director
and the President
651
00:23:40,019 --> 00:23:41,754
were in constant contact
during the siege.
652
00:23:41,821 --> 00:23:43,890
C.J., when you say
"constant contact," is that...
653
00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:45,424
The President
was briefed daily,
654
00:23:45,492 --> 00:23:47,860
several times a day,
by the Attorney General
655
00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:49,496
and the Director of the FBI.
656
00:23:49,562 --> 00:23:51,397
So the President
was aware that snipers
657
00:23:51,464 --> 00:23:53,299
were given the green light
to use deadly force?
658
00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:54,967
I have no idea.
659
00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:56,636
C.J., FBI Rules of Engagement
specify
660
00:23:56,703 --> 00:23:58,304
that no action may be taken
661
00:23:58,370 --> 00:23:59,972
unless innocents
are in imminent danger.
662
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,308
Did the director discuss
a suspension of those rules
663
00:24:02,374 --> 00:24:03,810
with the President?
664
00:24:03,876 --> 00:24:05,712
No. Though apparently,
some of the agents on the ground
665
00:24:05,778 --> 00:24:07,179
thought the rules
had been suspended.
666
00:24:07,246 --> 00:24:08,781
REPORTERS:
C.J.! C.J.!
667
00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:11,283
C.J., so there
was a breakdown
in communication?
668
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:12,752
No, I didn't say that.
669
00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:14,020
C.J., the rules are predicated
670
00:24:14,086 --> 00:24:15,622
on the Constitution--
are you saying
671
00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:17,957
the Director of the FBI
suspended the Constitution?
672
00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:19,926
C.J.:
I see my job as making sure
673
00:24:19,992 --> 00:24:23,029
the press and, through them,
the public, is well-informed.
674
00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:25,498
I tell them the truth.
675
00:24:27,233 --> 00:24:29,168
That's my goal.
676
00:24:29,235 --> 00:24:32,304
DOCUMENTARIAN:
When we return--
will mistakes of the past
677
00:24:32,371 --> 00:24:37,577
continue to plague
the Bartlet Administration?
678
00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:43,550
Now, we have no answer yet
from the FBI
679
00:24:43,616 --> 00:24:45,785
about who fired the first shots.
680
00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:47,587
The FBI has cleared
the airspace here
681
00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,055
above Shaw Island,
682
00:24:49,121 --> 00:24:52,224
and we are told that
this is standard procedure.
683
00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:53,860
And with reports of a family dog
684
00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:55,895
allegedly shot
by federal agents,
685
00:24:55,962 --> 00:24:58,197
the question
on everyone's mind today is,
686
00:24:58,264 --> 00:25:00,299
is this another Casey Creek?
687
00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:02,669
REPORTER:
Are you saying the Director
of the FBI...
688
00:25:02,735 --> 00:25:04,470
JOSH:
Wow, look how young
you look.
689
00:25:04,537 --> 00:25:07,439
C.J.:
I wonder old I'm gonna look
by this time tomorrow?
690
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,176
Don't answer that.
691
00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:12,812
Look, I'm sorry we didn't
brief you about the dog,
692
00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:14,881
but it wasn't
for comment anyway.
693
00:25:14,947 --> 00:25:16,649
The Director wanted
to keep you in the loop
694
00:25:16,716 --> 00:25:18,017
to extend
a show of faith...
695
00:25:18,084 --> 00:25:19,786
It was sure as hell
a show of something,
696
00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:21,788
but if I'd been truly briefed
instead of a PR gesture,
697
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:23,289
I could've told you this morning
698
00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:24,557
this thing wasn't going away.
699
00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:26,559
The Director was confident
that the situation
700
00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:28,094
would resolve.
The Director's confidence
701
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,929
is starting to...
Okay, did you need me?
702
00:25:29,996 --> 00:25:32,832
Before you go to the podium,
Leo wanted me to remind you...
703
00:25:32,899 --> 00:25:34,701
Oh, yeah.
I know my line.
704
00:25:36,703 --> 00:25:38,304
I think you look
better now.
705
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,339
I do, too.
You do.
706
00:25:40,406 --> 00:25:42,609
Even in the midst
of brewing storms,
707
00:25:42,675 --> 00:25:43,976
the press briefing is
708
00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:46,078
a constant centerpiece
of the day.
709
00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:49,415
Normally, the press secretary's
chance to combat speculation
710
00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:51,517
and set the record straight.
711
00:25:51,584 --> 00:25:54,754
Up until WW II,
even the general public
712
00:25:54,821 --> 00:25:56,656
could walk right up to the door
713
00:25:56,723 --> 00:25:58,224
of the White House.
714
00:25:58,290 --> 00:25:59,992
And the press office,
715
00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:02,962
that was born
under Teddy Roosevelt.
716
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:05,665
We knew our way
around the West Wing.
717
00:26:05,732 --> 00:26:07,266
We knew the staff,
718
00:26:07,333 --> 00:26:08,334
the President.
719
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,568
There was no press room,
720
00:26:09,636 --> 00:26:11,137
so we'd, uh,
721
00:26:11,203 --> 00:26:14,473
hang out in the lobby
and just wait
722
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:16,342
for the news of the day.
723
00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:19,311
If Jim had anything for us,
we'd gather around
724
00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:20,813
with our notebooks.
725
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,216
And sometimes,
he'd just come out and say,
726
00:26:24,283 --> 00:26:29,121
"Nothing more today, fellas,
go on home."
727
00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:31,791
( chuckles softly ):
That couldn't happen now.
728
00:26:31,858 --> 00:26:33,325
C.J., did the FBI fire
the first shot?
729
00:26:33,392 --> 00:26:35,427
Just wait till the briefing,
okay?-- Give me a break.
730
00:26:35,494 --> 00:26:36,729
Is it "Awth-man"
or "Oath-man"?
731
00:26:36,796 --> 00:26:37,997
It's "Awth-man."
It's "Oath-man."
732
00:26:38,064 --> 00:26:39,031
Which one is it?
733
00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:41,233
It's "Awth-man."
It's "Oath-man"
734
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,737
You know, from time to time,
I look in on a midday briefing,
735
00:26:44,804 --> 00:26:46,505
and it all comes back.
736
00:26:46,572 --> 00:26:48,474
My heart starts to race.
737
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:50,609
My stomach churns.
738
00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:52,511
Then I mix myself a martini,
739
00:26:52,578 --> 00:26:54,313
and I thank God
740
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:55,381
it is not me anymore.
741
00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:56,683
REPORTERS:
C.J.! C.J.!
742
00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:58,450
With the current standoff
on Shaw Island,
743
00:26:58,517 --> 00:26:59,952
what would the President say
744
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:01,854
to those who fear
a repeat of Casey Creek?
745
00:27:01,921 --> 00:27:03,656
The President is aware
of the situation,
746
00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:05,024
and, like all of us,
is hopeful
747
00:27:05,091 --> 00:27:06,993
there will be
a peaceful resolution soon.
748
00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:08,360
Has he asked for an explanation
749
00:27:08,427 --> 00:27:09,962
of why a dog was shot
by agents at the scene?
750
00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:11,197
The White House
is tracking
751
00:27:11,263 --> 00:27:12,799
the situation,
but we do not interfere
752
00:27:12,865 --> 00:27:14,366
with ongoing
law enforcement efforts.
753
00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:15,768
C.J.!
Katie.
754
00:27:15,835 --> 00:27:17,336
I'm just following up,
there are reports
755
00:27:17,403 --> 00:27:19,672
that Federal agents fired
the first shots-- is this true?
756
00:27:19,739 --> 00:27:22,241
I won't engage
in speculation.
But can't we safely say
757
00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:24,844
that Jamal Othman
didn't shoot his own dog?
Again,
758
00:27:24,911 --> 00:27:26,979
the White House
doesn't comment on
an ongoing operation.
759
00:27:27,046 --> 00:27:28,247
C.J.,
was the FBI Director called
760
00:27:28,314 --> 00:27:29,849
to the White House today
by the President,
761
00:27:29,916 --> 00:27:31,350
or did he come
on his own?
762
00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:33,585
The Director meets with
the President twice a week.
763
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:34,887
So you don't know
if they discussed
764
00:27:34,954 --> 00:27:36,789
the standoff
at that meeting?
I'm sorry.
765
00:27:36,856 --> 00:27:38,557
C.J., we're getting word
the FBI is issuing
766
00:27:38,624 --> 00:27:40,359
a statement.
Yeah, I'm just...
767
00:27:40,426 --> 00:27:42,895
getting that now.
768
00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:44,897
I have a statement to read.
769
00:27:44,964 --> 00:27:47,533
"Our negotiator established
telephone contact
770
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,535
"with Mr. Othman
inside the residence
771
00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:53,105
"and has learned that one of
the Othman children was injured
772
00:27:53,172 --> 00:27:54,841
"in the initial exchange
of gunfire.
773
00:27:54,907 --> 00:27:56,743
"I have no particulars
about the extent of the injury.
774
00:27:56,809 --> 00:27:59,045
"Mr. Othman has agreed
775
00:27:59,111 --> 00:28:01,413
"to allow an ambulance
to approach the cabin
776
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,016
"and to let at least
one other family member
777
00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:05,985
"help evacuate the injured child
778
00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:07,820
to receive medical treatment."
779
00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,722
I have nothing further
at this time.
780
00:28:09,789 --> 00:28:11,690
( reporters clamoring )
781
00:28:11,758 --> 00:28:13,960
( shouting continues )
782
00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:17,797
REPORTER:
...FBI has cleared the airspace
783
00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:19,732
here above Shaw Island,
and we are told
784
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,100
that this is standard procedure.
785
00:28:23,369 --> 00:28:26,572
REPORTER 2:
An ambulance passed by us
moments ago,
786
00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:27,940
and, as you can see,
787
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:30,943
has stopped at the turnoff
to the lane.
788
00:28:32,678 --> 00:28:33,980
They're in the Oval.
789
00:28:34,046 --> 00:28:35,782
C.J.:
The breakneck pace we live at--
790
00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:37,683
the 24-hour news cycle--
791
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:39,585
is this good for the country?
792
00:28:39,651 --> 00:28:41,153
Is it inescapable?
793
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:43,956
How do we reflect,
get perspective?
794
00:28:44,023 --> 00:28:45,657
They're on a call.
With the Director?
795
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,326
I can't interrupt.
796
00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,896
NEWS ANCHOR:
...a frequent visitor
of the area.
797
00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:52,198
Othman, suspected
of arms trafficking,
798
00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:55,034
was tracked from his home
in Torrance, California,
799
00:28:55,101 --> 00:28:57,369
to a local cabin
he rented with his family.
800
00:28:57,436 --> 00:28:59,638
Reportedly,
neighbors in Shaw began...
801
00:28:59,705 --> 00:29:02,241
Okay.
802
00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:04,476
TOBY:
Well, there are times
when, uh--
803
00:29:04,543 --> 00:29:07,313
that's what's called
the "close hold"--
804
00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:10,382
when, uh, certain members
of the staff...
805
00:29:10,449 --> 00:29:13,519
uh, until, again,
all the information is, uh,
806
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:15,321
is ready to go out,
807
00:29:15,387 --> 00:29:16,755
some people aren't included.
808
00:29:16,823 --> 00:29:18,290
I mean, that's happened to me.
809
00:29:18,357 --> 00:29:19,826
It's happened
to everybody on the staff
810
00:29:19,892 --> 00:29:22,228
at one point or another.
811
00:29:23,629 --> 00:29:25,832
C.J.:
What do you mean?
812
00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:30,536
It's-It's Claudia Jean.
It's...
813
00:29:31,971 --> 00:29:34,907
I... I'm-I'm at work.
814
00:29:34,974 --> 00:29:38,410
I'm at the White House, Daddy.
815
00:29:38,477 --> 00:29:40,412
Is there a nurse there?
816
00:29:43,015 --> 00:29:44,884
I'm sorry
you don't like it there,
817
00:29:44,951 --> 00:29:46,785
but I can't come back right now.
818
00:29:46,853 --> 00:29:48,855
I can't be there right now.
819
00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:50,656
I'm very, very sorry,
820
00:29:50,722 --> 00:29:54,226
and I-I love you so much,
but I can't be there, and I-I...
821
00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:55,995
I will be there
as soon as I can,
822
00:29:56,062 --> 00:29:58,230
hopefully next weekend,
like we talked about.
823
00:29:59,065 --> 00:30:02,168
All... All right, Daddy.
824
00:30:15,514 --> 00:30:18,584
REPORTER:
The injured child
is the primary concern.
825
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:22,454
COMMENTATOR:
...President Bartlet,
he can't or he won't ride herd.
826
00:30:22,521 --> 00:30:24,323
WOMAN:
...nice family.
The FBI hounded them.
827
00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:26,292
Rahzi,
Mrs. Othman was so scared.
828
00:30:26,358 --> 00:30:28,995
Their phone was being tapped.
829
00:30:29,061 --> 00:30:30,562
Now we've got Cowboy Arnold
out there
830
00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:31,730
shooting up dogs and children.
831
00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:36,268
Listen, nobody respects the job
832
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:38,104
but tell me,
where is the leadership?
833
00:30:38,170 --> 00:30:40,006
WOMAN:
Oh, sure it's racial profiling.
834
00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:42,441
DOCUMENTARIAN:
As tensions mounted
in the West Wing,
835
00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:44,110
the press secretary
was kept at arm's length
836
00:30:44,176 --> 00:30:46,212
about the negotiations
and the condition
837
00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:48,047
of the wounded child
at Shaw Island.
838
00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:49,448
SHEFFIELD:
And, of course,
839
00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:51,350
we've got the tradition
of the flak jacket.
840
00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,752
You heard about that.
No, tell me.
841
00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:55,087
Well, we've got
this flak jacket,
842
00:30:55,154 --> 00:30:56,989
it goes from one press secretary
to the next.
843
00:30:57,056 --> 00:30:59,291
We all put little notes
in the pockets.
844
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:03,229
Uh, you know... words of wisdom
to the next guy in the job.
845
00:31:03,295 --> 00:31:05,597
Like what?
Oh, I couldn't
tell you that.
846
00:31:05,664 --> 00:31:08,334
Part of the tradition is,
it remains private.
847
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,970
The Roadless Rules
Conservation Area Announcement,
848
00:31:11,037 --> 00:31:12,838
originally scheduled
for 12:00 p.m.
849
00:31:12,905 --> 00:31:14,673
has been moved to 3:00 p.m.
850
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:17,143
C.J.? Agent Casper's here.
851
00:31:19,545 --> 00:31:21,080
Agent, um...
Hi.
852
00:31:21,147 --> 00:31:22,614
What... I'm sorry,
853
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:24,984
I'm not sure this is a...
a really good idea.
854
00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:27,253
The entire Fourth Estate
is camped outside.
855
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,221
Seriously, I'm gonna have
to kick you out.
856
00:31:29,288 --> 00:31:31,157
Well, the President,
the Attorney General
857
00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:33,225
and the Director all
asked me to stop by,
858
00:31:33,292 --> 00:31:35,061
so I wouldn't say
that's a good idea.
859
00:31:35,127 --> 00:31:36,929
You were in the...
you were in the Oval?
860
00:31:36,996 --> 00:31:39,131
Just left. It's okay.
861
00:31:39,198 --> 00:31:41,433
And, uh, first off,
I wanted to...
862
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:44,937
on behalf of the Director,
I want to apologize.
863
00:31:45,004 --> 00:31:48,440
The... media rep
on Shaw screwed up.
864
00:31:48,507 --> 00:31:49,942
He never should've issued
a statement
865
00:31:50,009 --> 00:31:51,243
without giving you a heads-up.
866
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:52,411
Yeah, I'd just
appreciate him
867
00:31:52,478 --> 00:31:54,046
not doing it
while I'm on the air.
868
00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:56,315
Agreed, bad move--
won't happen again.
869
00:31:56,382 --> 00:31:58,084
What makes
you say that?
870
00:31:58,150 --> 00:32:01,153
That I'm not gonna answer
until...
871
00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:02,788
you close that.
You want the cameras off?
872
00:32:02,854 --> 00:32:05,124
Yes, please.
I want 'em out.
Okay. Hold on.
873
00:32:05,191 --> 00:32:07,593
DOCUMENTARIAN:
When we return--
874
00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:10,196
an explosion on Shaw Island
threatens the worst
875
00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:12,331
for the Bartlet Administration.
Carol!
876
00:32:12,398 --> 00:32:14,200
CAROL:
No comment!
877
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:17,369
Yes, please.
I want 'em out.
878
00:32:17,436 --> 00:32:18,404
Okay. Hold on.
879
00:32:19,871 --> 00:32:22,041
DOCUMENTARIAN:
C.J. Cregg's closed door
880
00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:23,909
was a vivid reminder
to the press corps--
881
00:32:23,976 --> 00:32:25,311
that the Press Secretary
882
00:32:25,377 --> 00:32:27,379
was in control
of their feeding time.
883
00:32:27,446 --> 00:32:29,081
Their hunger
for updated information
884
00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:30,716
was only intensified
885
00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:33,285
by the continued lull in
action on Shaw Island.
886
00:32:33,352 --> 00:32:35,287
The quote from the vet is
he doesn't have the bullet
887
00:32:35,354 --> 00:32:37,456
or that the FBI
confiscated the bullet?
888
00:32:39,191 --> 00:32:40,659
Carol, we know
Agent Casper's in there.
889
00:32:40,726 --> 00:32:42,328
Is she being briefed?
890
00:32:42,394 --> 00:32:43,996
C.J.:
It's like being
on a debate team.
891
00:32:44,063 --> 00:32:45,797
You don't argue
for the other side.
892
00:32:45,864 --> 00:32:48,700
There's an inherent aspect of
spin that's just human nature.
893
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:51,903
You try to strengthen and
clarify your point of view.
894
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,472
If you choose
not to advertise
895
00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:55,941
your vulnerabilities,
is that a cover-up?
896
00:32:56,008 --> 00:32:57,143
You know what,
897
00:32:57,209 --> 00:32:58,577
could you just
make sure
898
00:32:58,644 --> 00:33:00,246
people don't walk
in and out of here?
899
00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:01,813
Yeah, I'm really sorry
about that, I just...
900
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,382
And this morning
at the gaggle,
901
00:33:03,449 --> 00:33:05,384
don't ever let the press
have free reign back here.
902
00:33:05,451 --> 00:33:07,853
This is the answer that's too
longwinded for you to use,
903
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:10,256
but I think my job is public,
904
00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:13,392
and yet for all
its visibility, it's not.
905
00:33:13,459 --> 00:33:16,128
And there's a misconception that
I'm here
906
00:33:16,195 --> 00:33:19,031
to stymie reporters,
or to mislead the public,
907
00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:21,933
to spin
or even hide the truth.
908
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,371
Better way to put it,
909
00:33:25,437 --> 00:33:27,206
and to honestly
inform the press,
910
00:33:27,273 --> 00:33:28,807
and through them, the public,
911
00:33:28,874 --> 00:33:31,710
about what is happening
on any given day.
912
00:33:42,654 --> 00:33:44,523
DOCUMENTARIAN:
You waiting
for something?
913
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:50,096
You wanted to see my day.
This is my day.
914
00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:56,001
I just got a call from
Jill at the Times,
915
00:33:56,068 --> 00:33:57,136
and she told me
916
00:33:57,203 --> 00:33:58,937
that you went on
the record with her.
917
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:01,006
I didn't... I didn't go
918
00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:02,708
on the record with her
about anything.
919
00:34:02,774 --> 00:34:04,843
I was rescheduling an
appointment for C.J.
920
00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:06,478
That is not
your job.
921
00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:08,247
Your job is,
"No comment."
922
00:34:08,314 --> 00:34:09,815
I have to talk to you.
923
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:11,317
...reporters, okay?
Understood.
I'll take care of it.
924
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,252
Yeah, what's up?
925
00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:15,954
Research has it
that Mrs. Othman
926
00:34:16,021 --> 00:34:17,456
isn't Yemeni-American.
927
00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:20,426
She's the daughter
of a school teacher
928
00:34:20,492 --> 00:34:23,195
and auto worker--
born in Detroit.
929
00:34:23,262 --> 00:34:25,131
Has it gotten out yet?
930
00:34:25,197 --> 00:34:26,432
Um, no, not yet.
931
00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:28,100
All right, I want you
to stay on it, okay?
932
00:34:28,167 --> 00:34:29,135
And be discreet.
933
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:30,369
Hey, hey, they're moving!
934
00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:31,303
...emergency vehicle
on the scene,
935
00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:32,738
up near the lane.
936
00:34:32,804 --> 00:34:33,972
Yes, okay, now it appears
937
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:35,641
we have the ambulance
doors open.
938
00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:37,109
Carol!
939
00:34:37,176 --> 00:34:39,077
We have a stretcher
rolling out
940
00:34:39,145 --> 00:34:40,746
of the ambulance--
I see two EMTs
941
00:34:40,812 --> 00:34:42,648
and they have
removed a stretcher
942
00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:44,616
and they are heading in
the direction of the cabin.
943
00:34:44,683 --> 00:34:46,051
REPORTER 2:
As a reminder,
944
00:34:46,118 --> 00:34:47,853
the new SOP does specify
945
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:50,088
that snipers are not to fire
946
00:34:50,156 --> 00:34:51,657
when children
are in harm's way.
947
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:53,492
NEIGHBOR:
Yes, I can see
the EMTs approaching.
948
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:55,927
They don't appear to be going
all the way to the door.
949
00:34:55,994 --> 00:34:57,095
Oh-- the door's opening.
950
00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:58,630
ANCHOR:
The door to the cabin is?
951
00:34:58,697 --> 00:34:59,565
( explosion )
952
00:34:59,631 --> 00:35:00,566
Okay, we have
953
00:35:00,632 --> 00:35:02,901
an explosion
or a flash of some kind
954
00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:04,069
near the cabin.
( gunfire )
955
00:35:04,136 --> 00:35:05,404
REPORTER 2:
We do have gunfire
956
00:35:05,471 --> 00:35:06,472
coming from
the direction of the cabin.
957
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:08,240
ANCHOR:
What are you seeing now?
958
00:35:08,307 --> 00:35:10,176
Get me ten minutes
in the Oval Office.
959
00:35:10,242 --> 00:35:11,343
MR. FARES:
I can no longer see
960
00:35:11,410 --> 00:35:13,279
the EMT's or the children.
961
00:35:13,345 --> 00:35:15,113
There's...
someone may be down.
962
00:35:15,181 --> 00:35:16,615
REPORTER:
Gunshots are continuing.
963
00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:19,084
We see agents now,
on the move.
964
00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:21,287
I see five, six members
of SWAT
965
00:35:21,353 --> 00:35:22,821
storming towards the cabin.
966
00:35:22,888 --> 00:35:24,390
Andrew!
967
00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:25,857
ANCHOR:
The neighbor with a visual
on the cabin
968
00:35:25,924 --> 00:35:28,294
is reporting he's lost
sight of the children
969
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,162
who came out of the cabin
and they may be down.
970
00:35:30,229 --> 00:35:32,198
( gunfire )
971
00:35:32,264 --> 00:35:34,266
We do have more gunfire
coming from
972
00:35:34,333 --> 00:35:36,001
the direction of the cabin,
973
00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:37,936
and from
the surrounding woods.
974
00:35:38,003 --> 00:35:42,774
( reporters clamoring )
975
00:35:42,841 --> 00:35:44,576
No comment.
976
00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:57,756
( phone ringing )
977
00:35:57,823 --> 00:35:58,990
This is Charlie.
978
00:35:59,057 --> 00:36:00,959
Okay, thanks.
979
00:36:01,026 --> 00:36:02,228
C.J.:
We'll reschedule
980
00:36:02,294 --> 00:36:04,162
the announcement
for tomorrow.
981
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:05,631
I know you've got
the NEC waiting.
982
00:36:05,697 --> 00:36:07,266
PRESIDENT:
No, I'll stick
my head in.
983
00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:08,600
All right, it'll get
on your schedule
984
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:10,068
in the morning
for a final prep
985
00:36:10,135 --> 00:36:11,036
for questions
you might get.
986
00:36:11,102 --> 00:36:12,238
I think we can guess
987
00:36:12,304 --> 00:36:13,672
what those questions
are going to be.
988
00:36:13,739 --> 00:36:14,673
Yes, sir.
989
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:17,243
I think they should be...
Here they are.
990
00:36:17,309 --> 00:36:18,877
Are these our young
wayward adventurers?
991
00:36:18,944 --> 00:36:20,212
The Eagle Rangers.
992
00:36:20,279 --> 00:36:21,847
Welcome to the
White House, fellas.
993
00:36:21,913 --> 00:36:22,681
Hi, come on in.
994
00:36:22,748 --> 00:36:24,082
How you doing?
995
00:36:24,149 --> 00:36:26,318
Good to see you.
Good, good.
996
00:36:26,385 --> 00:36:29,154
I'll have a word
with you later.
997
00:36:29,221 --> 00:36:31,156
So, uh, who among you objects
998
00:36:31,223 --> 00:36:34,526
to staying another night
at the Marriot?
999
00:36:34,593 --> 00:36:35,994
DOCUMENTARIAN:
And while the airwaves
1000
00:36:36,061 --> 00:36:37,763
were filled with
conflicting reports
1001
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:39,565
of what had just happened
on Shaw Island,
1002
00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:41,767
the Bartlet Administration,
quietly dropped away
1003
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,835
from the breaking news
and resumed its day.
1004
00:36:43,902 --> 00:36:47,005
Was there contention
within the Administration?
1005
00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:48,407
Would further departures
1006
00:36:48,474 --> 00:36:50,175
from Standard Procedure
be revealed?
1007
00:36:50,242 --> 00:36:53,545
From inside the West Wing,
we could only speculate
1008
00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:55,747
along with the rest
of the country.
1009
00:36:55,814 --> 00:36:57,015
PRESIDENT:
Thank you, fellas.
1010
00:36:57,082 --> 00:36:58,684
Thank you all
very much.
1011
00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:00,218
We'll see you tomorrow at
10:00 a.m. in the Rose Garden.
1012
00:37:00,286 --> 00:37:01,019
Have a good night.
Yes, sir.
1013
00:37:01,086 --> 00:37:02,754
You holding up?
1014
00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:04,690
Oh, yes, sir.
1015
00:37:04,756 --> 00:37:07,993
C.J.:
Yes, I guess there's
an inherent tension there,
1016
00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:09,027
I won't deny it.
1017
00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:10,829
Conventional wisdom says
1018
00:37:10,896 --> 00:37:13,098
you can't serve two masters--
I do.
1019
00:37:13,164 --> 00:37:14,800
Or I tell myself I do.
1020
00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:16,368
We're going to try
to move this along.
1021
00:37:16,435 --> 00:37:17,869
Some of you are up against
evening news deadlines.
1022
00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:18,604
So, without
further ado,
1023
00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:19,805
we'd like to bring
1024
00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:21,640
Agent Mike Casper
to the podium.
1025
00:37:21,707 --> 00:37:23,642
He'll have a statement and
then take your questions.
1026
00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:25,243
Mike.
1027
00:37:27,279 --> 00:37:29,147
Approximately one hour ago,
1028
00:37:29,214 --> 00:37:32,250
Federal Agents
apprehended
Jamal Othman,
1029
00:37:32,318 --> 00:37:34,019
who had been holed up
with his family
1030
00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:35,120
in a seven-hour
standoff
1031
00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:37,088
on Shaw Island
in Washington State.
1032
00:37:37,155 --> 00:37:38,290
ATF officials
recovered
1033
00:37:38,357 --> 00:37:39,658
two cases
of explosives
1034
00:37:39,725 --> 00:37:41,593
which had been wired
throughout the cabin.
1035
00:37:41,660 --> 00:37:43,462
Mr. Othman was in control
of their detonation.
1036
00:37:43,529 --> 00:37:45,130
Mr. Othman received
a gunshot wound
1037
00:37:45,196 --> 00:37:46,197
to the left shoulder.
1038
00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:47,766
His condition
is stable.
1039
00:37:47,833 --> 00:37:51,370
The standoff was initiated
when Mr. Othman opened fire
1040
00:37:51,437 --> 00:37:53,004
this morning and
released an attack dog
1041
00:37:53,071 --> 00:37:54,440
on Federal Agents
who were
1042
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:56,708
attempting to serve him
with an arrest warrant.
1043
00:37:56,775 --> 00:37:59,678
One agent sustained severe
bites to the face and throat.
1044
00:37:59,745 --> 00:38:02,113
His condition
is critical at this time.
1045
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:03,382
His name is being
withheld
1046
00:38:03,449 --> 00:38:05,317
until his family
can be notified.
1047
00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:07,018
Uh, the youngest
Othman child
1048
00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:08,520
also sustained injuries
1049
00:38:08,587 --> 00:38:10,656
in the initial
exchange of gunfire.
1050
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:12,491
Hoda Othman, age six,
1051
00:38:12,558 --> 00:38:15,293
was struck by flying glass
and went into shock.
1052
00:38:15,361 --> 00:38:16,895
She and the other
five children,
1053
00:38:16,962 --> 00:38:19,831
as well as Mrs. Othman,
have been safely evacuated.
1054
00:38:19,898 --> 00:38:21,600
The daughter
is in stable condition.
1055
00:38:21,667 --> 00:38:24,936
I'll take your questions now.
1056
00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:26,372
against Mr. Othman?
1057
00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:27,973
DOCUMENTARIAN:
On the evening news
1058
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:29,975
on that March day,
three years ago,
1059
00:38:30,041 --> 00:38:33,412
speculations of impropriety
were initially overtaken
1060
00:38:33,479 --> 00:38:35,581
by relief at
the positive outcome.
1061
00:38:35,647 --> 00:38:37,383
In a stunning conclusion,
1062
00:38:37,449 --> 00:38:39,718
agents from the FBI
Hostage Rescue and SWAT,
1063
00:38:39,785 --> 00:38:41,787
using a flash-bang
as a distraction,
1064
00:38:41,853 --> 00:38:44,556
stormed the cabin moments after
an injured child
1065
00:38:44,623 --> 00:38:45,924
was safely evacuated...
1066
00:38:45,991 --> 00:38:47,526
C.J.:
Okay, what have
you got for me?
1067
00:38:47,593 --> 00:38:49,461
Lindsey called from
the First Lady's Office.
1068
00:38:49,528 --> 00:38:51,430
The Richard Tyler
burgundy gown she wore
1069
00:38:51,497 --> 00:38:53,198
was donated to
the Costume Institute
1070
00:38:53,264 --> 00:38:55,333
at the Metropolitan
Museum of Art in January.
1071
00:38:55,401 --> 00:38:56,735
Thank you.
Did you, uh...
1072
00:38:56,802 --> 00:38:58,169
I already faxed Chris
a copy of the receipt.
1073
00:38:58,236 --> 00:38:59,170
Thank you.
1074
00:38:59,237 --> 00:39:00,606
The Vatican
advance team
1075
00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:01,907
was sorry they didn't
get to say good-bye,
1076
00:39:01,973 --> 00:39:03,409
and look forward
to seeing you soon.
1077
00:39:03,475 --> 00:39:04,610
They didn't seem put off?
1078
00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:05,944
I don't
think so.
1079
00:39:06,011 --> 00:39:07,646
That Renato guy asked
me out to dinner.
1080
00:39:07,713 --> 00:39:09,347
Ooh! You got to go.
1081
00:39:09,415 --> 00:39:10,749
I don't know,
he seemed kind of...
1082
00:39:10,816 --> 00:39:11,983
Oh, come on, a guy I dated
from the Vatican?
1083
00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:13,284
You can't pass that up.
1084
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:14,920
DOCUMENTARIAN:
Within a few hours,
1085
00:39:14,986 --> 00:39:16,422
the action in
the West Wing's corridor's
1086
00:39:16,488 --> 00:39:18,824
slowed to a steady hum.
1087
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:20,892
I'm out of here.
1088
00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:21,927
Good night, John.
1089
00:39:21,993 --> 00:39:24,129
Thank you for
everything today.
1090
00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:27,098
ANDREW:
I'll be working, so
if you need anything,
1091
00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:28,534
I'll be here, working.
1092
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,268
Okay, thanks, Andrew.
1093
00:39:30,335 --> 00:39:32,070
I appreciate it.
Good night.
1094
00:39:32,137 --> 00:39:35,006
DOCUMENTARIAN:
Is she a good boss?
1095
00:39:35,073 --> 00:39:37,108
CAROL:
She's the best boss,
1096
00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:40,579
and I couldn't have
a better job.
1097
00:39:40,646 --> 00:39:42,748
Um, I really look at C.J.
as my mentor.
1098
00:39:42,814 --> 00:39:44,382
They say that a mentor's
1099
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:46,585
a wise and trusted
guide or friend.
1100
00:39:46,652 --> 00:39:49,455
I would say that C.J.
is all of those things.
1101
00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:52,658
DOCUMENTARIAN:
It would be weeks before
the full scope of the charges
1102
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:54,993
against Mr. Othman would become
public knowledge,
1103
00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:57,095
but at the end
of our day with C.J. Cregg,
1104
00:39:57,162 --> 00:39:59,030
"Access" got a preview
of what America
1105
00:39:59,097 --> 00:40:00,131
would later learn.
1106
00:40:00,198 --> 00:40:01,299
Good day.
1107
00:40:01,366 --> 00:40:02,501
Not bad.
1108
00:40:02,568 --> 00:40:03,902
I counted six rounds
you went
1109
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:05,771
with the rope-a-dope
in that briefing.
1110
00:40:05,837 --> 00:40:08,206
I'm starting
to take pride in it.
1111
00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:10,742
That... sounds sick.
1112
00:40:10,809 --> 00:40:13,445
Is there anything I should
know for tomorrow?
1113
00:40:13,512 --> 00:40:15,380
The Director wants
to wait until
1114
00:40:15,447 --> 00:40:16,715
he's sure it's
a clean sweep
1115
00:40:16,782 --> 00:40:18,584
before announcing
all the charges.
1116
00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:20,185
That makes sense.
1117
00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:21,386
The confiscated
blueprints
1118
00:40:21,453 --> 00:40:23,589
are the most damning
evidence, of course,
1119
00:40:23,655 --> 00:40:25,657
but Othman's contacts
with the Bahji network
1120
00:40:25,724 --> 00:40:27,459
have already netted
a dozen arrests.
1121
00:40:27,526 --> 00:40:30,161
Wow, this was big
for the FBI.
1122
00:40:30,228 --> 00:40:32,430
It was big for all of us.
1123
00:40:32,498 --> 00:40:35,667
Big enough to put
Casey Creek in the past?
1124
00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:38,637
We'll see.
1125
00:40:40,472 --> 00:40:41,573
Whoops. ( chuckles )
1126
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,041
DOCUMENTARIAN:
The next day,
1127
00:40:43,108 --> 00:40:44,943
most of the media
coverage mentioned
1128
00:40:45,010 --> 00:40:46,778
the Administration's previous
debacle at Casey Creek.
1129
00:40:46,845 --> 00:40:48,446
Over the next nine months,
1130
00:40:48,514 --> 00:40:51,583
100 charges were handed down
in dozens of arrests
1131
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:53,619
connected
to the Othman conspiracy.
1132
00:40:53,685 --> 00:40:55,721
In the end,
11 domestic terrorists
1133
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:58,624
were sentenced and convicted in
Federal Courts.
1134
00:40:58,690 --> 00:41:01,593
Last July, Jamal Othman
died of complications
1135
00:41:01,660 --> 00:41:03,695
from kidney failure
in Federal Prison,
1136
00:41:03,762 --> 00:41:05,631
where he was serving
a life sentence
1137
00:41:05,697 --> 00:41:07,599
for conspiracy
to commit terrorism.
1138
00:41:10,368 --> 00:41:11,302
Stop.
1139
00:41:11,369 --> 00:41:12,337
( chuckles )
1140
00:41:12,403 --> 00:41:13,772
Sometimes you have to just
1141
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:15,273
let yourself get beaten up.
1142
00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:17,308
But, sometimes,
it's better to be beaten up
1143
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:20,846
for 24 hours, than beaten up
for the long run.
1144
00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:22,881
Although, the long run is
something I have no sense of.
1145
00:41:22,948 --> 00:41:24,883
You know,
when I'm going home at night,
1146
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:26,217
I'm thinking about
the next day's schedule.
1147
00:41:26,284 --> 00:41:28,086
( cell phone ringing )
1148
00:41:28,153 --> 00:41:29,988
Rain?
1149
00:41:30,055 --> 00:41:32,891
That's what
they said for today.
1150
00:41:32,958 --> 00:41:35,126
Keep it in
the Rose Garden for now.
1151
00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:38,897
DOCUMENTARIAN:
Director Arnold continues
to elicit controversy
1152
00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:41,132
as head of the FBI,
and C.J. Cregg,
1153
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,569
who allowed us to share a day
with her in the West Wing,
1154
00:41:43,635 --> 00:41:46,004
remains the only woman
to have served two terms
1155
00:41:46,071 --> 00:41:49,074
as the White House
Press Secretary.
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