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So... 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,520 It's not?! 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,080 All right, let's go. 16 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,120 DISTANT CHEERING OF AUDIENCE 17 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,280 AUDIENCE WHISTLE AND CHEER 18 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,680 Thank you and good evening. We're the Eagles from Los Angeles. 19 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,280 LOUD CHEERING 20 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:37,960 One, two, three, four. 21 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:40,040 MUSIC STARTS 22 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,120 # Well, I'm running down the road 23 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,640 # Trying to loosen my load 24 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,040 # I got seven women on my mind... # 25 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,320 People are always saying things to me like, 26 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,000 "You're just like a normal person." 27 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,040 And I always say, "Of course!" 28 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,800 # Ooh, ooh 29 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,080 # Ooh, ooh! # 30 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,320 All right! 31 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,440 We might be a little more world-wise, you know, 32 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,040 than some of those kids, that's all. 33 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,560 We just maybe have less innocence than they do, but, I mean, 34 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,040 I eat, I sleep, I fall in love, I fall out of love, I work. 35 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,000 You know, I do pretty much the same thing. 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,080 # You got your demons and you got desires 37 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,520 # But I got a few of my own 38 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,240 # Oooh someone to be kind to 39 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,520 # In between the dark and the light 40 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,040 # Oooh coming right behind you 41 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,680 # Swear I'm gonna find you one of these nights! # 42 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,720 We saw a poster of us when On the Border was made. 43 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,480 Everybody looked like little kids, you know, like, early 20s and stuff. 44 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,280 And everybody didn't have their wrinkles and baggy eyes. 45 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Sort of like a president when he first takes office. 46 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,360 THEY LAUGH 47 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,040 And then, like four or five years later, you know, 48 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,040 he just walks out, and his hair is grey, 49 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,120 and his eyes are drooping, and he's just really, you know, real burned. 50 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,720 # Spent the last year Rocky Mountain way 51 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,600 # Couldn't get much higher! # 52 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,240 The first thing that happens is you get some kind of label, 53 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,640 then you've got to live up to it, and then you just get caught in that, 54 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,720 and I forget what the second thing is! 55 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,560 THEY LAUGH 56 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,440 # You know I've always been a dreamer 57 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,080 # Spend my life running round 58 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,920 # And it's so hard to change 59 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,120 It's hard. It's like living two lives. 60 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,200 You know, I have a family, three kids. 61 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,760 And it's just hard to live in between that line, you know, 62 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,040 of being out on the road and being away for a month. 63 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,600 # Keep on turning out and burning out 64 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,400 # And turning out the sa-a-ame 65 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,000 # So put me on a highway 66 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,440 # And show me a sign 67 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,920 # And take it to the limit 68 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,760 # One more time. # 69 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Maybe we wouldn't want to do this any more, 70 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,280 or maybe we can't do this any more, 71 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:44,920 or maybe nobody will give a shit if we do this any more. 72 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,640 # Take it to the limit 73 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,280 # One more t-i-i-ime. # 74 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,360 Thank you. 75 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,800 APPLAUSE 76 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,200 No, I insist. You first. 77 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,600 Hi, there. 78 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Lock it up. 79 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,840 A hearty bunch out there. Oh, he's not even here. Now lock it up. 80 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,080 Hey, driver, lock 'em up for us tonight, OK? 81 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Out of sight. You just don't know what those kids will do. 82 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,680 Doggone. 83 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,600 How about a beer? Is that what I heard? 84 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,080 You got it, brother. Don't hurt yourself, young America. 85 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,080 Would you like one? Yeah, I would like one. 86 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,000 I'm going to drink tonight. 87 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,440 I think they feel like they're up there, you know, 88 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,280 like they're on the stage. 89 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:50,680 Cos we look like them. We dress like them. 90 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,680 Part of it is that, and part of it's the records. 91 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,280 I think they just relate to the songs. 92 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:56,880 I think it's 50/50, I guess. 93 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,160 The thing is now is to try to see how long 94 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,080 we can stay up here at the top of the mountain. 95 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,400 It's very narrow and windy up here. 96 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,600 We can probably continue doing what we're doing as long as the songs keep coming. 97 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,360 That's the only thing that frightens us, 98 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,440 is to not be able to do that any more. 99 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,760 If we go to the well and nothing comes up, we would be in trouble. So far, so good. 100 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,920 I think we can maintain this for a few more years. 101 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,080 I don't see why not. 102 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,840 Other people have. The Rolling Stones and the Who and the Led... 103 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:26,840 and Led Zeppelin. I almost said THE Led Zeppelin! ..Have done it. 104 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:28,320 Chicago's done it. 105 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,160 Groups last longer than they used to, you know? 106 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,000 Shit don't float. 107 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,040 90% of the time, being in the Eagles was a fucking blast. 108 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,960 You know, I was living the dream. 109 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:08,560 # He was a hard-headed man 110 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,400 # He was brutally handsome... # 111 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,600 We never in our wildest dreams figured on being this successful and lasting this long. 112 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,280 # She held him up... # 113 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,160 We were a bunch of guys out there touring the country. 114 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,680 We had a little private plane. We had parties after the shows. 115 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,440 We had a good time. We were starting to make some money. 116 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,200 # They took all the right pills They threw outrageous parties... # 117 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,240 We had three guitar players finally, you know, so we could rock a bit. 118 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,560 So, it was a good time, a good time for me, a good time for Don. 119 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,200 # Life in the fast lane 120 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,840 # Surely make you lose your mind... # 121 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Everybody was really happy... 122 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,760 ..then! 123 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,040 # Life in the fast lane 124 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,200 # Everything, all the time 125 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,960 # Life in the fast lane... # 126 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,920 It was going really fast, and probably too fast. 127 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,360 There was turmoil within the band. 128 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,840 We put a lot of pressure on ourselves. 129 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,120 As Glenn used to say, "We made it, and it ate us." 130 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,520 It's hard to be in a group. It's a bit like being in a marriage, 131 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,040 if you quadruple it or quintuple it, in our case. 132 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,080 They asked Don when the Eagles broke up, "What was that like for you?" 133 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,120 And he said it was a horrible relief. 134 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,520 And I think that clocks it pretty well. 135 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,080 You're a real pro, Don, all the way. 136 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,080 Yeah, you are, too. The way you handle people. 137 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Except the people you pay, nobody gives a shit about it. 138 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,960 Fuck you. I've been paying you for seven years, you fuckhead. 139 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,120 So much stuff just happened. 140 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:56,200 You know, there's a philosopher who says, "As you live your life... 141 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,360 "..it appears to be... 142 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:08,040 "anarchy and chaos and random events, 143 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,840 "non-related events smashing into each other 144 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,480 "and causing this situation." 145 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,880 And then... then this happens, and it's overwhelming, 146 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,200 and it just looks like, "What in the world is going on?" 147 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,520 And later, when you look back at it... 148 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,320 ..it looks like a finely-crafted novel. 149 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,200 But at the time, it don't! 150 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,320 And a lot of the Eagles' story is like that. 151 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,640 I'm going to fuckin' kill you. I can't wait. I can't wait. 152 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,600 We might as well start at the beginning. 153 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 I grew up in Detroit, Michigan. My dad worked in a factory. 154 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,800 My mother baked pies at General Motors. 155 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,920 I started taking piano lessons when I was five years old. 156 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,320 That alone could get you beat up after school in suburban Detroit. 157 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,720 # And then she said... 158 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,000 # Just because you've become a young man now 159 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,800 # There's still some things that you don't understand... # 160 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Detroit was Motown, and so they played all the Motown hits. 161 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,320 # Keep your freedom for as long as you can now 162 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,840 # My momma told me, you'd better shop around.... # 163 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,800 And that was the kind of stuff that we would listen to. 164 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,080 I stopped playing piano when I was 12. It was too much. 165 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,720 I wanted to do other things, 166 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,320 and I think the girl thing was starting to happen, as well. 167 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,240 THEY SCREAM 168 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Then the Beatles came along, 169 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:57,280 and my aunt took me down to see the Beatles at the Olympia. 170 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,440 THEY SCREAM 171 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,920 It was crazy. 172 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,840 I remember having a girl that was standing on her seat in front of me 173 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:10,320 fall backwards into my arms, delirious, going, "Paul, Paul!" 174 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,280 You know, and I thought, "Oh, my God!" 175 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,600 I have a very vivid memory of seeing the Beatles 176 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 with my parents on our old Admiral TV set. 177 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,640 It was like a bolt of lightning. 178 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,360 It had a huge impact on me. It was revolutionary. 179 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,920 And it was an impact that would last a lifetime, 180 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,200 and I know that had a huge impact on Glenn, too, 181 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,520 even though we didn't know each other at the time. 182 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:38,360 Linden, Texas, is my hometown. It's a small town in North-eastern Texas. 183 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,880 When I was growing up, the population was about 2,500, 2,600. 184 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,600 # I can settle down... # 185 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,760 It's primarily an agricultural area. 186 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,160 Some people worked at the steel mill. 187 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,400 It's just a typical small Texas town. 188 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,800 There's an old courthouse dating back to before the Civil War 189 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,280 and one stoplight. 190 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,000 It's kind of like The Last Picture Show, you know? 191 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,720 It was a great place musically, 192 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,800 because it was kind of a cultural crossroads. 193 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,080 It's really located where the old South begins to meet the West. 194 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Linden, Texas, was the birthplace of Scott Joplin and T-Bone Walker. 195 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,320 # Yes, time is hard, baby... # 196 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,720 Both my parents loved music, so we had a lot of records in the house. 197 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,200 I was exposed to music of all kinds from an early age. 198 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,280 You know, Country and Western music, Western swing music, gospel music, Blues... 199 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,720 Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, and Patsy Cline. 200 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:37,880 # More, more, more 201 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,960 # Gonna live it up and tear it down 202 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,000 # Get in the groove and paint the town 203 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,120 # Got a lot of rhythm in my soul... # 204 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,480 There was a 50,000-watt radio station in New Orleans, 205 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,520 and I heard things on that station that I didn't hear anywhere else. 206 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,600 So, I had a lot of radio coming in. 207 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,200 And when I would go to work with my dad, 208 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,640 he would listen to a station in Shreveport, Louisiana. KWKH. 209 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,480 # Say, hey, good lookin'! 210 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,600 # What you got cookin'? 211 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,680 # How's about cooking something up for me? # 212 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:17,600 And that station broadcast a radio show called the Louisiana Hayride, 213 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,440 where Elvis Presley made his first radio broadcast in 1954. 214 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 # Well, that's all right, Mama 215 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,000 # That's all right with you 216 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,280 # That's all right, Mama 217 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,360 # Just anyway you do 218 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,440 # That's all right 219 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,320 # That's all right... # 220 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,000 The very first rock'n'roll record I bought was by Elvis Presley. 221 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,160 # Anyway you do... # 222 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,520 My playing the drums was sort of an organic process. 223 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,440 I began by beating on my school books with my fingers 224 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,880 and with pencils. 225 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,440 I would beat out little cadences, 226 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,240 and I used to drive my classmates crazy doing that, until, I think, 227 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,640 one day, somebody said to me - 228 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,680 I think it was my friend Richard Bowden - he said, 229 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,640 "Why don't you just start playing the drums?" 230 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,440 I managed to cobble together a drum kit from old drums 231 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,520 that I found stashed in the back of the band hall at high school. 232 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,600 And then one day, my mom said, "Come on, get in the car." 233 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,080 And she drove me to a town about an hour and a half away 234 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,480 called Sulphur Springs, Texas, to McKay Music Company. 235 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,240 Much to my surprise, 236 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,040 she bought me a set of red-sparkle Slingerland drums 237 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,640 that I still have today. 238 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,960 So, I have to give my parents a lot of credit. 239 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,360 They bought me that drum kit 240 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,280 even though they couldn't really afford it. 241 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,480 The first band I was in was a band with my high-school buddy 242 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Richard Bowden and another high-school friend, Jerry Surratt, 243 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,960 and we played Dixieland jazz music. Nobody sang. We just played music. 244 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,680 MUSICAL INTRO TO SATISFACTION BY THE ROLLING STONES 245 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 I went to a high-school party, and there were four kids 246 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,240 who were freshmen in high school who were playing. 247 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,800 I was a junior, and I had a couple beers that night and said, 248 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,080 "Hey, you know, do you know Satisfaction? Cos I can sing it." 249 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,360 So, I became the lead singer of the Subterraneans. 250 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,760 # And I try and I try 251 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,280 # And I try... # 252 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,480 I played in the Subterraneans for a while, 253 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,080 and then I played in another band called the Mushrooms. 254 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,080 The most important thing that happened to me 255 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,320 when I was in Detroit was I met Bob Seger. 256 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,800 # Ye-e-e-ah 257 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,920 # I'm gonna tell my tale, come on! # 258 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,800 He took me under his wing. 259 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,000 He invited me to recording sessions that he was having, you know, 260 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,040 so I could see how records were made. 261 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,840 I was his mentor. 262 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,560 He was just so young, and I liked him right away 263 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,360 because he was so funny. 264 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,280 He had a great sense of humour, and, like me, 265 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,240 I could see he was really ambitious. He really wanted to be on the radio. 266 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,560 He cut a song called Ramblin' Gamblin' Man. 267 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 He let me play acoustic guitar on the basic track 268 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,000 and sing background vocals. 269 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,880 # Ramblin' ma-a-an 270 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,000 # A gamblin' man... # 271 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,720 You can really hear Glenn blurt out on the first chorus. 272 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,360 He comes out really loud. Tremendous gusto. 273 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Of course, that was a national hit for us, so that was really cool. 274 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Bob was the first guy that wrote his own songs and recorded them 275 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,720 that I had ever met. He said, "You know, if you want to make it, 276 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,920 "you're going to have to write your own songs." 277 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,000 And I said, "Well, what if they're bad?" he said, "Well, they're going 278 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,640 "to be bad." He says, "You just keep writing and keep writing, 279 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,000 "and eventually, you'll write a good song." 280 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,640 We were going to have a band together. 281 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,440 He was going to get rid of his other guys, 282 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,560 and I was going to be his bass player. 283 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 It didn't work out. 284 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,280 My mom found me smoking pot with a friend of mine 285 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,240 in somebody's basement, and she called up Seger's manager, 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Punch Andrews, and said, "Just a minute, not so fast." 287 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,800 In the years leading up to the Great Depression, 288 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,920 my dad had to quit school after the eighth grade. 289 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,680 He had to go home and work in the fields with his brother and sister 290 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,200 to help support the family. 291 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,360 His fondest wish, in fact, his life's goal, 292 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,040 was that I would go to college. 293 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,360 Every Saturday night, he would bring home seven quarters, 294 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,720 and we'd put them in a piggy bank, and when those quarters 295 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,640 amounted to $100, he would take me to the bank 296 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,840 and we would buy a savings bond, a United States savings bond, 297 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,400 and put that away for my college education. 298 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,120 So, between what my dad had saved and between what I was making 299 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:27,480 doing gigs all over Texas and Arkansas and Louisiana 300 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,920 on weekends, I paid for three and a half years of college. 301 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,640 They have a world-famous music department in which I did not excel. 302 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,280 I took one music course. 303 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,640 I think it was beginning theory, and I flunked. 304 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,040 I made an F. 305 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,760 But I didn't really care because I was an English major. 306 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,240 Well, after the Mushrooms, I got invited to join this band 307 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,120 called the Four of Us. 308 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:00,240 Started getting into some of the California bands - 309 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,120 the Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, the Beach Boys. 310 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,600 Always wanted to go to California. 311 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,120 And I got out there, my mind was blown. 312 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:10,400 The vegetation - I'd never seen palm trees. 313 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,640 You know, it was just like a dream come true. 314 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,800 # So you want to be a rock'n'roll star? 315 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,240 # Then listen now to what I say 316 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,800 # Just get an electric guitar... 317 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,840 The first celebrity I saw was David Crosby. 318 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,280 # And when your hair's combed right and your pants fit tight 319 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,160 # It's gonna be all right... 320 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,680 And he had on that flat-brimmed hat that he wore 321 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,680 on the second Byrds album, and he had a little leather cape on, 322 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,000 and I just looked and I thought, "My God, there's David Crosby." 323 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Zoom, and we went right by. 324 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,000 # And in a week or two if you make the charts 325 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,840 # The girls'll tear you apart... # 326 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,480 And the first person I met was John David Souther. 327 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,840 We wanted to get high and play music. 328 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,680 There were two of us with guitars. 329 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,960 We were listening to a lot of that sort of interface between 330 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,400 rock'n'roll and country and western music that was 331 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,360 happening in Southern California at the time with the Byrds 332 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:11,160 and Dillard & Clark and the Burrito Brothers and Poco. 333 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,760 # When I last saw you 334 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,760 # I couldn't find a reason why 335 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,200 # I felt kind of blue...# 336 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,680 There was a lot of great music of that sort going around then. 337 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,120 Longbranch Pennywhistle here. 338 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,880 I suppose you wonder what that name meant, and John David and I - 339 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,760 It was a well-kept spring back funky women. 340 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,400 The songs weren't very good. 341 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,200 I don't think Glenn and I were very far along as songwriters then. 342 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,960 # Run, boy, run 343 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,000 # You gotta move... # 344 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,400 We were a funny little group, but we got gigs. 345 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560 We, you know, managed to play in some of the folk clubs around LA - 346 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,800 the Golden Bear and the Ash Grove. 347 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,240 # Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah 348 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,960 # What condition my condition was in... 349 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,360 We had a chance meeting with Kenny Rogers in Dallas, Texas, one day. 350 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:10,480 He was coming through town with the First Edition. 351 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,240 They were very hot at the time. 352 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,600 # I tripped on a cloud and fell-a eight miles high... # 353 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 I remember this like it was yesterday. 354 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,800 This little kid came up and said, "Mr Rogers," he said, 355 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,000 "I'm Don Henley, and I'm with a group called Felicity, 356 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,880 "and we're doing a show tonight, and we'd love to have you come see us." 357 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 And I said, "You know, I'm really sorry, but I don't do that. 358 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,800 "I don't just go to clubs and watch groups." 359 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,240 He said, "I really think you'd like us." 360 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,440 And I thought, "Well, that's pretty cool," so I did. 361 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,160 # From the minute that I met you, baby 362 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000 # You were hanging your chains on me 363 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,440 # And I loved you so 364 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,240 # I nearly lost my mind... # 365 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Kenny is a Texas boy, and he was looking for groups to produce. 366 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,240 So, I brought them to LA, 367 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,040 and they literally lived at my house for about four months. 368 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,400 We changed their name to Shiloh. 369 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,680 It was so much fun to take them into the studio. 370 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:15,520 # Well, thank you Mr Big Time Music Business Man 371 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,240 # For taking time to listen to my song...# 372 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,960 With Shiloh, we made one album, and it had a single called 373 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,360 Simple Little Down Home Rock And Roll Love Song For Rosie. 374 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,160 Not exactly a short title! 375 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,120 # Just a simple little down home 376 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:34,040 # Rock'n'roll love song for Rosie... # 377 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,680 We didn't know much about the business at that point. 378 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,880 We were pretty naive. 379 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,800 # Going down to the swamp river country some day... # 380 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,160 We kicked around in the LA clubs for a while, 381 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,960 played the Whisky, played some of the clubs down in the South Bay area, 382 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,120 and nothing really happened for us. 383 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:57,600 JD and I were looking for any place to play. 384 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,600 We had heard about this guy Jackson Browne. 385 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,640 He'd been playing the same clubs we had, 386 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,120 but we never had seen him perform. 387 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,800 This is California. Mr Jackson Browne. Ah, thank you, thank you. 388 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 'Then there were a bunch of gigs that they had and some gigs that I had' 389 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,600 that they would show up at my gigs 390 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,440 and me at their gigs, and we became really good friends. 391 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,800 And we'd start talking about, "Where do you live, and what's going on?" 392 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,320 And Jackson said, "You know, you should come down to Echo Park. 393 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,240 "Rent's real cheap." 394 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Glenn got the apartment next to my apartment, 395 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,000 and this apartment cost like $125 or something a month, you know. 396 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,920 And I needed to economize, so I moved into the basement 397 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,600 underneath Glenn's place, which I could get into for $35 a month. 398 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,920 It only had one door. It was really just kind of an illegal place, 399 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,120 just a cubby-hole, and that's where Jackson lived, 400 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,600 with JD and I above. You know, that was it. 401 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,920 There was a stereo, a piano, a bed, a guitar, you know, a teapot. 402 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,120 KETTLE WHISTLES 403 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:04,080 We slept late in those days, except around nine o'clock in the morning, 404 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,920 I'd hear Jackson Browne's teapot going off, 405 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,560 this whistle in the distance. 406 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,880 And then I'd hear him playing piano. 407 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,960 I didn't really know how to write songs. 408 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,160 I knew I wanted to write songs, but I didn't know exactly - 409 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,400 you just wait around for inspiration, what was the deal? 410 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Well, I learned through Jackson's ceiling 411 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,640 and my floor exactly how to write songs cos Jackson would get up, 412 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,040 and he'd play the first verse and first chorus, 413 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,840 and he'd play it 20 times until he had it just the way he wanted. 414 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,600 And then there'd be silence. 415 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,680 And then I'd hear the teapot go off again. 416 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,960 Then it'd be quiet for ten or 20 minutes. 417 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,120 Then I'd hear him start to play again, 418 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,880 and there was the second verse. 419 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,360 So, then he'd work on the second verse, and he'd play it 20 times. 420 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,680 And then he'd go back to the top of the song, 421 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,000 and he'd play the first verse, the first chorus and the second verse 422 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,320 another 20 times until he was really comfortable with it and, 423 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,200 you know, change a word here or there, and I'm up there going, 424 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,160 "So, that's how you do it" - 425 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:13,360 elbow grease, you know, time, thought, persistence. 426 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,640 # Doctor, my eyes have seen the years 427 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,400 # And the slow parade of fears 428 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,400 # Without crying... 429 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,800 I wanted to kill him sometimes. 430 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,080 Jackson would play the same phrase from Doctor, My Eyes for six weeks. 431 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,120 The same thing with The Pretender. I just wanted to murder him. 432 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:44,080 # Doctor, my eyes... # 433 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,680 And it was during that period of time that I met Glenn Frey 434 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,520 because we were on the same label, called Amos Records. 435 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,240 Some of the things that struck me 436 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,920 when I first met Glenn were things we had in common. 437 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,760 Both of our dads made a living in the automotive industry. 438 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,320 Glenn and I loved old cars, especially cars from the '50s. 439 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,360 He had a '55 Chevy that he named Gladys. 440 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:07,400 And we drove around Los Angeles in Gladys. 441 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,800 RADIO: Check out the new talent. 442 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,240 There's no better place in town to catch those new singers 443 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,720 and songwriters than down at the Monday night Hoot Night, 444 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,360 Doug Weston's world-famous Troubadour, happening tonight. 445 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,000 'The Troubadour club was the centre of the musical universe. 446 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,960 It was a very seminal place. It was the place to see and be seen. 447 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,480 Every Monday night they had an open stage. 448 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,880 It was called Hoot Night. 449 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,080 The Troubadour was the place to go if you were young 450 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,680 and happening and trying to get involved in the music scene. 451 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,480 It was happening there. 452 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,960 # California 453 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,480 # Oh, California 454 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,800 # I'm coming home 455 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,680 # Oh, make me feel good Rock'n'roll band 456 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,960 # I'm your biggest fan 457 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,320 # California, I'm coming home. # 458 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,320 I saw a lot of great acts at the Troubadour. 459 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,760 # So far away 460 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:09,960 # Doesn't anybody stay in one place any more? 461 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,760 # It would be so fine to see your face... # 462 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,080 I witnessed Elton John's American debut performance in 1970. 463 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,520 # And it's good old country comfort in my bones 464 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,000 # Just the sweetest sound my ears have ever known... # 465 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,680 Everybody who was anybody at the time played at the Troubadour. 466 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,120 Of course, Linda, 467 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:41,760 she still has one of my favourite voices in the business, ever. 468 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,000 # Feeling better now we're through 469 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,960 # Feeling better cos I'm over you...# 470 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320 The Troubadour is really responsible for the entire music scene. 471 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,640 I mean, everything I got, really, was virtually through either 472 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,240 performing there onstage or in the bar, you know? 473 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,680 # I'm telling you now, baby 474 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,920 # And I'm going my way... # 475 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,200 I was just started managing Linda then, 476 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,840 and Linda was going to be a star - that voice as big as a house. 477 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,680 There wasn't anybody in the room 478 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,680 that cared about anything but that voice. 479 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,360 # I'm gonna say it again... # 480 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,200 One night, we're down at the Troubadour, 481 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840 and John Boylan comes to me - he's managing Linda Ronstadt - 482 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,840 and he says, "I'm taking Linda on the road. 483 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,680 "We need guys who can sing. You want to play rhythm guitar and sing?" 484 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,640 I offered him $250 a week, and he took it. 485 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,120 I went back to him, I said, 486 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,960 "Can you give me some of that money right now?" 487 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,840 I think he gave me 50 bucks. 488 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,000 And then I found Don from this band called Shiloh. 489 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,880 I heard him playing at the Troubadour. 490 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,280 # I'm coming down... # 491 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,160 I was looking for a job. Glenn introduced me to John Boylan. 492 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520 I auditioned at this little house in Laurel Canyon. 493 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,160 I had listened to her album hundreds of times, 494 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,680 so I knew the songs backwards and forwards, 495 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,880 and I guess I passed the audition, because I got the job. 496 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,440 # I got a feeling called the blues Oh, Lord 497 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,440 # Since my baby said goodbye 498 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,480 # And I don't know what I'll do 499 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,360 # All I do is sit and cry Oh, Lord 500 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,840 # I've grown so used to him somehow 501 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,600 # But I'm nobody's sugar momma now 502 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040 # And I'm lonesome 503 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,160 # Got the lovesick blues. # 504 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,480 I learned a lot from Linda. 505 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,560 It was a very formative experience for me. 506 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040 And she could hang with the guys, you know. 507 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,520 She could drink tequila with the rest of us and hold her own. 508 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,720 # Saving nickels, saving dimes... # 509 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,120 It was really very ad hoc. 510 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,760 We had a station wagon, put the gear in the back. 511 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,640 We'd all get in it and drive to the college and play there. 512 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640 As a cost-cutting measure, band members had to share 513 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,640 rooms in those days, so Glenn and I were roommates. 514 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,480 What did you guys eat? I had a bowl of Rice Krispies. 515 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840 'Ladies and gentlemen, Linda Ronstadt.' 516 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720 It's funny. I seem to get people at a critical stage in their development 517 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,040 and they build their chops. 518 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,840 I mean, there's nothing that gets your chops up better than playing every single night. 519 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,000 # If the same thing happened to everybody 520 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,760 # That just happened to me... # 521 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,520 Linda and John Boylan really like the way Henley and I play, 522 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,440 really like the way we sing with her, and they start to get 523 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,280 a vision of putting together a super group to back up Linda - 524 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,640 the best of the new country-rock musicians, 525 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080 and we were going to be part of it. 526 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120 I remember talking with Don, and Don said, 527 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,520 "Well, you know, I'd rather, like, just be in a band with you." 528 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,520 And I said, "Well, yeah, me too. 529 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,840 "You know, I'd rather just be in a band with you." 530 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,320 So, we went to Linda and said, "You know, 531 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,240 "we really appreciate everything you've done for us, 532 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,600 "and it means a lot, and we love playing with you, 533 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,760 "but we'd like to have our own band." 534 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:24,840 # If you won't be with me someday... # 535 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200 Now, you know, I think a lot of people, you know, 536 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,520 could get miffed by that, say, "Well, wait a second. 537 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,120 "I brought you out here, you know. 538 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,840 "I gave you a paying job when you couldn't afford 539 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,840 "your own drinks at the Troubadour bar, and now you want to quit?" 540 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,400 # Smile... # 541 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Linda was extremely gracious about the whole thing, as was John Boylan. 542 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,520 They weren't resentful or bitter at all. They were great. 543 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080 They were supportive, as a matter of fact. 544 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,280 # There you go and baby 545 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,720 # Here am I 546 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,920 # Well, you left me here 547 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:04,120 # So I could sit and cry... # 548 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,040 They started talking about putting a band together, 549 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,880 and we told them they should get Bernie Leadon. 550 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,200 I was in several bands in LA. Early on, I met Linda. 551 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,080 Then I worked with Dillard & Clark - 552 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,240 Doug Dillard, banjo player, and Gene Clark from the Byrds. 553 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,520 And so, now I'm in an offshoot of the Byrds world, 554 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,280 and then that turned into an invitation from the Burrito Brothers 555 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,480 from Chris Hillman to come join them for their second album on A&M. 556 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,120 # Since we got the older guys to show us how 557 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,680 # I don't see why we can't stop right now... # 558 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920 And I was still in the Burritos, but they had lost Gram Parsons, 559 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,400 and it had changed, and I wasn't that interested any more. 560 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600 Bernie was a very accomplished banjo player, 561 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,120 and he could also play guitar in what we called the Bindi lick style. 562 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,320 It was pioneered by a fellow named Clarence White. 563 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,000 And then Glenn told me about this guy named Randy Meisner who 564 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880 had been in a band called Poco. 565 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,960 Randy could sing really high, and he also played bass. 566 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,760 # It's a good morning and I'm feeling fine... # 567 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,800 So, Glenn just kind of asked me one day 568 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800 if I'd be interested in starting a group with him. 569 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,480 And he had Henley and Bernie. That was the first Eagles. 570 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,440 So, the plan was that Glenn and I would try to recruit Bernie 571 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,680 and Randy, and then we would all go to David Geffen and see 572 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,600 if he would give us a recording contract. 573 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,080 In the '70s, Asylum Records was considered the LA sound - 574 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,160 Joni Mitchell, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, 575 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Jackson Browne. 576 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,560 David Geffen, who started Asylum, is our patron, you know. 577 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,520 A Medici, Medici of rock'n'roll. 578 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,160 It's a very artist-oriented company, and whatever they want to do, we support them. 579 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040 If we believe in them, we'll stick with them, 580 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,960 whether they make it or not. 581 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480 Jackson was our conduit to David Geffen. 582 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,840 He was the first guy to get signed 583 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,280 by Geffen's new Asylum Records label. 584 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 So, we all walk in Geffen's office, and we basically said, 585 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,600 "Here we are." 586 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,960 Bernie Leadon just boldly says to Geffen, 587 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480 "Well, do you want us or not?" 588 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800 They were dying to sign with me. 589 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360 I think they were very ambitious, particularly Glenn. 590 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,200 Glenn wanted to have a hit band. 591 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,120 I loved the way Don sang. 592 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880 You know, we all had hopes for it. 593 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,640 All of a sudden, we were signed to Geffen's new label. 594 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,280 They sent us back to the drawing board. 595 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,680 They said, "You guys need to go and rehearse some more." 596 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,400 They said, "You know, you need to write some songs. You're not really ready to record yet." 597 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,040 So, they packed us off to Aspen, Colorado. 598 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,280 It could have been worse. 599 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,960 There were people who were way higher than any of us had ever been. 600 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,840 It was a Wild West wide-open town at that point. 601 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,560 MUSIC: "Tryin' " by the Eagles 602 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,160 We played at a club up there called The Gallery, 603 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560 which was located right at the foot of Aspen Mountain. 604 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,160 # Tryin' 605 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800 # Got to keep on tryin' 606 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,160 # Tryin'... # 607 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,600 We didn't have a big catalogue of our own tunes at that point. 608 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,280 We were just getting started. 609 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,920 We needed to learn how to play together as a band, and we did. 610 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,120 # The moon is a weeper 611 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,520 # The sun is your clown 612 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,480 # And his way of lovin' 613 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,760 # Is holdin' you down... # 614 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,360 And then it was like, "OK, we need to make a record. 615 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,240 "Who are we going to get to produce it?" 616 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,360 We wanted to shoot as high as we could. 617 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Glenn Frey came up with Glyn Johns as an idea. 618 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,160 Glyn Johns was a name that kept popping up on records we loved. 619 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:52,520 The first time I heard them was in Aspen. 620 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120 I was not at all impressed, really. 621 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,960 THEY PLAY GUITAR DUET 622 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,360 I thought they were confused. 623 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,040 Glenn Frey wanted to be in a rock'n'roll band, 624 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,200 and Bernie Leadon, on the other side, was one of the greatest 625 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,760 acoustic players, country players, if you like. 626 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,440 And there was a bit of a confusion. 627 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,600 I didn't see what all the fuss was about at all. 628 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,360 So I passed. 629 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,760 We're like, "God dang, what?" You know, it's not what we expected. 630 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,360 He had worked with Led Zeppelin, the Who, the Stones, 631 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,320 so he was coming from that, and he said flat-out, 632 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,360 "You're not that, man." 633 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,800 It isn't always easy to spot what's hot about an artist 634 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520 if you go and see them play. You can see them on a bad night. 635 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,360 You know, it's not necessarily the fairest way of doing it. 636 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,040 So, I thought, "Well, the best thing to do would be for me to see them 637 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,440 "in a rehearsal situation where we could converse 638 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040 "and they could play new stuff and I could stop and start." 639 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,800 And they played the stuff that they played in Aspen, 640 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960 and it all sounded pretty much the same. 641 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,200 Well, I was thinking, "I don't get it. I still don't get it." 642 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,360 So, we decided to take a break for lunch 643 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,360 and as we were leaving, 644 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,720 somebody said, "Oh, why don't we play Glyn that ballad?" 645 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:21,880 # My daddy was a handsome devil 646 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,040 # He had a chain five miles long... # 647 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,120 And it just completely blew me off my feet. 648 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,400 I mean, there it was. That was the sound. 649 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:38,440 # From every link a heart did dangle 650 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120 # For every maid... # 651 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,800 Extraordinary blend of voices, wonderful harmony sound. 652 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,200 Just stunning. 653 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,400 And that was it. I was in with both feet. 654 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:56,720 # Now I have loved you like a baby... # 655 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:57,920 Except that Glyn Johns 656 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,440 didn't want to come to the United States and work. 657 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360 He wanted to work in London in the recording studios 658 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,760 that he was familiar with, and so they shipped us off to England. 659 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440 I don't think that any of us except Bernie had ever been out 660 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,520 of the country, so it was a little bit like going to the moon for us. 661 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,960 # I'm hanging on to my peace of mind 662 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,240 # I just don't know 663 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,320 # I'm hanging on to those good times... # 664 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,040 And I'm stoked. You know, I'm thinking, 665 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,120 "I'm going to go to Beatle country with Glyn Johns. 666 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840 "I'm going to record in the same studio 667 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,640 "where Led Zeppelin did Rock And Roll. 668 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,960 "Oh, my God, I can't wait." 669 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,520 We were recorded at the famous Olympic studios, 670 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,400 where a lot of legendary records had been made. 671 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000 Glyn Johns, he had a certain style of recording, 672 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,320 which was very organic. 673 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,360 He would simply place a few mics around the room, and off you go. 674 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,320 You know, rather than, for example, placing a microphone on each 675 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,320 and every drum, he would just put three microphones on the drum kit. 676 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,280 He was accustomed to recording people 677 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,080 like John Bonham with Led Zeppelin. 678 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520 And I said to Glyn, "I want the bass drum to be louder." 679 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,160 And he said, "If you want it louder, hit it harder," you know? 680 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,520 And I hit it as hard as I could, 681 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,560 but I couldn't hit it as hard as John Bonham. 682 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,000 He had a bunch of rules that really didn't suit me 683 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,600 and some of the other guys, too. 684 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,600 You know, no getting high in the studio, no drinking in the studio. 685 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,280 I agreed wholeheartedly with Glyn Johns 686 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680 regarding drugs and alcohol in the studio - 687 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,760 that we'd get more work done and that it would be better work. 688 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680 When I got the opportunity to produce and therefore 689 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,800 be in the chair, I decided that I would no longer put up with that. 690 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,040 Somebody said to me the other night that 691 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,560 I was the designated driver in the '60s and early '70s. 692 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,120 Glyn had worked with the Rolling Stones at a time when they went 693 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,520 to the studio and did nothing except wait for Keith, you know, to go down 694 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,160 in the basement and play his guitar until he came up with some riff. 695 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,320 So, Glyn was impatient. 696 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,320 The Stones had burned him out on the, you know, 697 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,240 "get high in the studio and wait for something to happen" kind of thing. 698 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,600 'Let's go. We're rolling.' 699 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,120 'One, two, three.' 700 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,160 MUSIC: "Peaceful Easy Feeling" by the Eagles 701 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:32,840 # I like the way your sparkling earrings lay 702 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,400 # Against your skin so brown 703 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,680 # And I wanna sleep with you 704 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,320 # In the desert tonight... # 705 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,800 There were three hit singles on the first album. 706 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,040 Peaceful Easy Feeling was written by Jack Tempchin, 707 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,680 who is our friend and frequent collaborator. 708 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,920 # Cos I got a peaceful easy feeling... # 709 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,760 Peaceful Easy Feeling captures the time, captures this attitude. 710 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560 You can feel the wind blowing across the desert. 711 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,000 # Oh-ohh 712 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,920 # What a feeling 713 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,920 # Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ohh. # 714 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,720 MUSIC: "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles 715 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840 The second hit was Witchy Woman, which I wrote with Bernie. 716 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480 Witchy Woman started as a guitar figure. 717 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,800 Then we were jamming it one day, and everybody was digging it. 718 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,480 And then Henley came back the next day with the lyrics. 719 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,560 # Raven hair and ruby lips 720 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,680 # Sparks fly from her finger tips 721 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,800 # Echoed voices in the night 722 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,760 # She's a restless spirit on an endless flight 723 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:03,920 # Woo hoo, witchy woman 724 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,400 # See how high she flies 725 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,920 # Woo hoo, witchy woman 726 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,600 # She got the moon in her eye... # 727 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,520 During the time that the Eagles were on the road for the first album, 728 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,520 we had just come through the '60s - civil rights movement, 729 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,240 '68 - all the assassinations, all the rioting. 730 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,680 The Vietnam War still winding up. Nixon, Watergate. 731 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,880 I welcome this kind of examination. 732 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680 I really think that part of the reason that the Eagles 733 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,760 succeeded the way they did was because the country 734 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,960 and people and young people needed to feel like things were OK. 735 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,840 So, here comes this song Take It Easy. 736 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,840 MUSIC: "Take It Easy" by the Eagles 737 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,040 # Well, I'm a runnin' down the road 738 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,800 # Trying to loosen my load 739 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,760 # I've got seven women on my mind 740 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120 # Four that want to own me 741 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,000 # Two that want to stone me 742 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,440 # One says she's a friend of mine 743 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,480 # Take it easy 744 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,160 # Take it easy 745 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:24,960 # Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy 746 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,480 # Lighten up while you still can 747 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,720 # Don't even try to understand 748 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:35,120 # Just find a place to play your hand 749 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,640 # Take it easy... # 750 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,720 Jackson had this song called Take It Easy. 751 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,880 He couldn't finish the song. He was stuck in the second verse. 752 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,360 He had, "I'm standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona." 753 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,920 And so, I filled in, "Such a fine sight to see 754 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,040 "It's a girl, my Lord In a flatbed Ford 755 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,680 "Slowing down to take a look at me." 756 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,040 # Well, I'm a standin' on a corner in Winslow, Arizona 757 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,680 # Such a fine sight to see 758 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,720 # It's a girl, my Lord in a flat-bed Ford 759 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,280 # Slowin' down to take a look at me... # 760 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,600 Girl, Lord, Ford - I mean, all the redemption, you know - 761 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,640 girls and cars and redemption all in this one line. 762 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,280 I mean, he's very mercurical. You know...mercurial? Mercurial. 763 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,800 And he's mercurical, too. 764 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,760 # We may lose and we may win 765 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,320 # But we will never be here again 766 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,400 # So open up I'm climbin' in 767 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,600 # So take it easy... # 768 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,800 All right! 769 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,880 Someone once asked Stephen Stills about the Eagles, 770 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,840 and his response was, "They just wanted to be us." 771 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,040 But when it came time to do our album covers, 772 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,440 they suggested that we use Gary Burden and Henry Diltz. 773 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,600 They had done the first Crosby, Stills, Nash cover 774 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,880 and some stuff for Joni. 775 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,480 The one I really remember was 776 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960 The Mamas & The Papas all sitting in the bathtub. 777 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,640 That was one of their album covers. 778 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,360 So, these were, like, the cool guys to have work on your album. 779 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,600 Gary Burden is about 40 years old, full beard, long, greyish, 780 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,400 wavy hair, crystal-blue eyes. 781 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,680 Henry was a sort of magical, noninvasive photographer guy. 782 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,280 For the Eagles, 783 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,280 it was the peyote spirits which the American Indians, of course, 784 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,520 ate peyote and had a very, very spiritual experience, 785 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,640 and they would maybe meet their animal totem 786 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,040 or they would get their quest for life. 787 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,560 My deal was always to take the bands out of their comfort zone. 788 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,280 Take them away from their girlfriends, from telephones, 789 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,840 from anything, and have them under my control 790 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,240 so that I could get things to happen without any interference. 791 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,400 And so, we would take trips. 792 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,200 Now, how this plan came about exactly, 793 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,040 today you have to scratch your head, but this was the plan. 794 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,320 OK, we'll all go to the Troubadour, 795 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,240 and we'll stay there till closing time. 796 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,640 And then we'll drive to Joshua Tree. 797 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680 # This morning I don't know... # 798 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,680 We had a bag of peyote buttons, a bunch of trail mix, 799 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,880 some tequila, and some water, and some blankets. 800 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,640 And the seven of us set out for Joshua Tree. 801 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,840 We got there probably about 4.30 in the morning, parked in this 802 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,000 special place that I don't know how we found it in the dark. 803 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,120 We all took one peyote button, put it in our mouths, 804 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,000 and started hiking up to the place that we were supposed to go. 805 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,040 So, right around the time that we're getting to the campsite 806 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,800 and we're starting to build the fire 807 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,800 and starting to cook some peyote tea, and the first buttons - 808 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,400 everybody's chewing the first button 809 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,800 and the drug starts coming on just as the sun is rising. 810 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,680 MUSIC: "Earlybird" by the Eagles 811 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,600 I think everybody got higher than they ever imagined 812 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,240 anybody could be, and it was a good thing. 813 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,800 We were after getting into life deeper 814 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,040 and better and more and surrendering. 815 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,280 I had to go to the bathroom, so I left the campsite, 816 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,120 and I hear the guys yelling from the campfire, "Eagle! Eagle!" 817 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,840 I look up, and it's soaring right above me. Huge wingspan. 818 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,200 I'm, like, scuffling to get my pants back up, and I'm slipping. 819 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,360 I fall down, and the bird just kind of goes, 820 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,080 "Eagles, huh? Yeah, I don't think so." 821 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,080 The images of the first album cover, I think, 822 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,160 really set the tone for visually what Eagles are. 823 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,000 Gary designed the album cover so that it would open up into a 824 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,560 whole poster, and at the bottom were the Eagles around the campfire. 825 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,520 And then, up at the top, it would go on up into the sky 826 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,760 and the eagle up in the sky. 827 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,600 But David Geffen thought that would be confusing, 828 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,400 and without consulting us or consulting Gary or the Eagles 829 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,880 or anybody, he told them, "Just glue it shut." 830 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,320 And so, then, when they glued it shut, you would get this - 831 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,760 this album, front and back, and you'd open it up, 832 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,440 and it would be upside-down, which didn't make any sense to anybody. 833 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,200 The fact was that the success of the first album scared the hell out of us. 834 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,160 Why me instead of some guy down the street, you know? 835 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,960 Why me and some friends of mine who are just as good of musicians 836 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,840 as I am, you know, but it happened to me and it didn't happen to them? 837 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,160 I don't know. 838 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,680 Success can sometimes be just as disconcerting 839 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,200 and frightening as failure, especially 840 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,560 when you have questions about your own worthiness and your abilities. 841 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,800 It came time to do another album. 842 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,440 Don and I decided we'd try to write some songs together. 843 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,120 I had been sitting over on Aqua Vista. 844 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,360 I was living on the couch, 845 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,400 and I'm just laying there playing the guitar, and I started going... 846 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,640 # Ding-digga-ding digga...# 847 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,000 You know, I'm thinking, 848 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,800 "Yeah, that's pretty cool, kind of Roy Orbison, kind of Mexican. 849 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,240 "Yeah, I like that." 850 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,440 So, I showed him, you know, that guitar riff. 851 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920 I said, "Maybe we should write something to this." 852 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,200 # It's another tequila sunrise 853 00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:02,120 # Staring slowly across the sky 854 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,840 # I said goodbye 855 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,560 # He was just a hired hand 856 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,760 # Workin' on a dreamy plan to try...# 857 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,240 Songs like Desperado and Tequila Sunrise, 858 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:28,400 that's when Glenn and I began collaborating, and that's when we really became a song-writing team. 859 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,320 # Every night when the sun goes down 860 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,720 # Just another lonely boy in town 861 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:44,760 # And she's out runnin' round. # 862 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,800 Earlier that year, 863 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,720 someone had given Jackson Browne the book of gunfighters. 864 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,240 It had all the big outlaw groups, Frank and Jesse, the Doolin-Dalton gang. 865 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,240 We were all just fascinated with those guys, 866 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,960 and we thought it would make a great analogy. 867 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,160 Well, for example, we live outside the laws of normality. 868 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,200 Also, you usually, because of records or bank robberies, 869 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,000 you usually heard about these guys before you ever saw them. 870 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,040 They had posters that were wanted posters up for people. 871 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,560 There just seemed to be some parallels. 872 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,360 It wasn't really like we were outlaws, 873 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,320 but I think they did have their nobler characteristics. 874 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:41,400 # A life on the road is the life of an outlaw, man. # 875 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,800 We started talking about it. 876 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,040 Then we said, "Well, maybe we should do, like, an album all about the rebels." 877 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,760 We got to doing this outlaw album, 878 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,240 and we had eight songs finished, and we needed two more. 879 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:56,600 An idea Randy came up with was how the guy became an outlaw 880 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,760 and how he became a guitar player. 881 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:07,920 # He was a poor boy Raised in a small family 882 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:17,760 # He kinda had a craving For something no-one else could see 883 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:25,120 # They said that he was crazy The kind that no lady should meet 884 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:33,200 # He ran off to the city then wandered around in the street... # 885 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,360 I kind of started it, and that's what usually happened. 886 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,520 I'd get a verse or two, and then I'm done, 887 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,040 and they would help fill in the blanks. 888 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,680 # Oh, yeah. He wants to see the lights a-flashing 889 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,200 # And listen to the thunder ring. # 890 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:58,720 Nobody expected there to be a concept album with western cowboys music. 891 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,120 Don Henley was from Texas. He was a cowboy. 892 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,560 Glenn was from Detroit. He wanted to be a cowboy. 893 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,320 Because I knew all these guys had a little cowboy inside of them, 894 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:14,520 I took them to Western Costume and just said, "Pick out your persona." 895 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,400 Their premise was that, if they had lived 100 years ago, 896 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,160 in like 1872, they probably would have been gunslingers. 897 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,360 Everybody's going to be firing in the direction of this building right here. 898 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,640 Jackson, JD, Boyd, you all got to be in the picture more. 899 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,600 We're going to be in there. You ready? One, two, three! 900 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,040 And we fired so many blanks that it was a cloud of smoke hanging 901 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,480 over this western town, 902 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:50,600 and the fire department came Cos they thought it was a fire. 903 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,920 Keep firing! 904 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,240 We were just a bunch of kids. We were just playing around. 905 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,520 The picture that's on the back of the album, 906 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,960 there's a lot of reality in it. 907 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,200 All of the agents and managers and road managers, all the guys 908 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,400 who didn't play are standing up, alive with badges and guns, 909 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,520 and the four Eagles at the time and Jackson and I are all dead, bound 910 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,520 up the way they used to do when they'd catch outlaws in those days. 911 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,000 They'd stand them up for display. 912 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,080 People never tired of looking at the corpse of a bad boy. 913 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,520 We all felt, when we were doing it and as it was delivered, that it 914 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,160 was another really remarkable record on the part of the band. 915 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,000 I mean, it was pretty extraordinary. 916 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,400 The band and I were enormously thrilled with it. 917 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,120 They literally carried me out of the control room. 918 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,200 They chaired me out of the control room. 919 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,720 # Desperado 920 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:52,760 # Is there gonna be anything left...# 921 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,800 Desperado comes out, and it bombs. 922 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,480 Jerry Greenberg was the Vice President of Atlantic Records. 923 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,200 They were excited to get the second Eagles album. 924 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,440 We played him Desperado, and he said, 925 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,880 "Hmm, that's, yeah, that's nice, that's good, that's nice." 926 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,040 And turned around and said, "God, they made a fuckin' cowboy record." 927 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,840 # Desperado 928 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:24,280 # Oh, you ain't gettin' no younger. # 929 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,800 I was extremely flattered that Linda recorded Desperado. 930 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560 It was really her that popularized the song. 931 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,360 Her version was very poignant and beautiful. 932 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,120 # And freedom, oh, freedom 933 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,200 # That's just some people talkin' 934 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:49,120 # Your prisoner is walking through this world all alone. # 935 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,240 There have been a lot of articles and things that identify me with the LA sound. 936 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,760 It's sort of, like, me and Jackson Browne and the Eagles. 937 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,880 All of us are reaching out for other musical influences all the time. 938 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,880 The so-called southern California sound was developing. 939 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,560 It was fresh, it was different, it was unique. 940 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,360 It was a melting pot, people moving 941 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,040 here from all over the United States to pursue their dream. 942 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,920 Actors, musicians, wannabe managers, agents, wannabe, you know, like me. 943 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,280 I picked up the phone cold and called David Geffen, 944 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,080 who was just starting Asylum Records. 945 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,960 Long story short, I took a job as a manager with Asylum. 946 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,240 I was intrigued. 947 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,640 I wanted to know about the Eagles and meet the Eagles 948 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,800 Cos I was a fan. 949 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,480 Emergency? 950 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,320 I get a phone call. Glenn Frey's on the phone. 951 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,080 "We need money for Christmas. Can you book dates?" 952 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,120 I book some dates. 953 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,960 So, I get on a plane and go out to meet them. 954 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,360 First of all, the show was fantastic. 955 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,040 Crowd was nothing like I'd seen a year, year and a half earlier. 956 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,960 Good evening. Welcome to the Portland version of... Spread Eagle. 957 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,040 Spread Eagle. Tonight, the promoter gave us chopsticks. 958 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,840 I don't think we ever checked in a hotel. 959 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,320 We went from there to a party at a sorority house. 960 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,920 One thing led to another, and I'd never seen anything like this. 961 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,880 They wouldn't give us any booze in the bar. 962 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,960 We tried to get some booze, but they fucked up, 963 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,240 so we may burn the fucking place down. We're not sure. 964 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:20,560 I don't think we went to sleep. 965 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,240 It was Eagle mania. 966 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,440 And then they went off to England to record On The Border with Glyn Johns. 967 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,920 They were quite open to being produced. 968 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,280 Understandably, that changed. 969 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,440 They began to be more opinionated and less insecure, perhaps. 970 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,920 We wanted to play rock'n'roll or at least a more rock'n'roll 971 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,480 version of country music, and Glyn Johns 972 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,840 was of the opinion that we weren't really capable of that. 973 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,680 I think he had been bombarded by loud, 974 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,200 aggressive rock'n'roll for many, many years. 975 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,640 At that point in his life, he wanted mellow people and mellow music, 976 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,080 and we weren't exactly at the same stage in life. 977 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,800 Frey sort of took over more. 978 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,240 He had this desire to be something that 979 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,200 I didn't really feel that they were capable of doing. 980 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:20,440 He and Glenn Frey were like oil and water. They clashed frequently. 981 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,440 In the studio, Glyn Johns was pretty much a schoolmarm. 982 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,440 He'd push, push, push, you know? And then he'd say, "That's it. 983 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,240 "That's good enough. We're moving on. You're not a rock'n'roll band. 984 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,440 "The Who is a rock'n'roll band, and you're not that." 985 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,200 After each of those records, the band freaked out and said, 986 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,040 "We've made a huge mistake. 987 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,640 "Glyn Johns missed it." 988 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,480 We actually had conversations. 989 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,200 You know, Desperado hadn't done as well as the first album. 990 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,640 None of them were thrilled with the way the record sounded. 991 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,280 We wanted more input into how our albums were being made. 992 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,200 We wanted more input into the recording process itself. 993 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,800 Don and I thought that the vocals were too wet. 994 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,320 There was too much echo on them. 995 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,800 And he definitely told us, "Excuse me, that's my echo. 996 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,320 "It's my signature. It's my bloody echo. It stays there. 997 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,840 "You don't tell me what to do." 998 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,920 We needed to make a change. 999 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,320 I joined the Navy at the height of the Cold War. 1000 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,400 One of the main things they were doing was looking for Russian 1001 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,480 submarines, and you do that by using sonar. 1002 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,280 When I got out, I had a lot of electronics education, obviously. 1003 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,000 And I got a job in a recording studio here in New York. 1004 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,040 The first session I ever saw, like day one, day two, 1005 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,040 was a Carole King demo. 1006 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,080 She sat down and played piano, and it was like, "Boy, this is fun. 1007 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,200 "These people are having fun here." 1008 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000 I worked my way up through the ranks, and then, of course, 1009 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,240 after engineering for four or five years, I was like, 1010 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,320 "Well, I can produce better than some of these guys I'm working for." 1011 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,240 At the time, I was managing Joe Walsh, so I played them 1012 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,600 Walsh music that I thought was an example of how it could be edgier. 1013 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,920 Joe and I had just finished an album called 1014 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,320 The Smoker You Drink, The Player You Get. 1015 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,360 And they heard that and said, "That's what we want to sound like." 1016 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,360 So, Irving arranged for us to have a meeting with Bill Szymczyk. 1017 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,880 We really only had two questions that we wanted to ask him - 1018 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,080 do you mind if we have some input about how much echo is on the vocals? 1019 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,840 And we wanted somebody who would put a microphone on each 1020 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,840 and every drum so we could have more control over the mix. 1021 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,760 He said yes to every question, and so we knew he was the guy for us. 1022 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,360 I said, "OK, under one condition. 1023 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,800 "I have to call Glyn and make sure it's OK with him." 1024 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,440 So, I called him, and I said, you know, 1025 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,480 "Glyn, the Eagles want me to produce them." 1026 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,040 "Better you than me, mate." 1027 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,560 That's pretty much how I felt. 1028 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,240 I mean, it had come to a fairly unpleasant end. 1029 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,200 Well, OK, you know, so much for Beatle country with Glyn Johns. 1030 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,160 Let's have a warm round of applause on a hot afternoon for the Eagles! 1031 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,080 # James Dean, James Dean 1032 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,400 # So hungry and so lean 1033 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,040 # James Dean, James Dean 1034 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,400 # You said it all so clean. # 1035 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,560 Along about the third album, 1036 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,680 I was having some difficulty in communicating, I felt, in the 1037 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,200 band, and I was starting to think maybe I should go at some point. 1038 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,920 They still had this unfulfilled desire to be a mainstream 1039 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,480 rock band and not just a vocal band, 1040 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,320 but I think they wanted to go in a tougher direction. 1041 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,800 Bernie Leadon was a country-based guitar player, but every time 1042 01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,960 I wanted to do a rock'n'roll song, he was the lead guitar player. 1043 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,560 # Cos I'm already gone. # 1044 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,360 Every time we wanted to do something country that Bernie sang, 1045 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,200 I was supposed to be the lead guitar player, 1046 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,200 and I wasn't a country musician by any stretch. 1047 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,760 It always felt like we needed a third guitar player. 1048 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,400 We had met this friend of Bernie's, this guy named Don Felder. 1049 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,880 We were playing in Boston, and he came back to visit Bernie, 1050 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,040 and we were jamming upstairs in the dressing room, 1051 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,560 and this guy was all over the neck. 1052 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,040 What he brought was great chops. 1053 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,360 I mean, we called him Fingers, Fingers Felder, 1054 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,160 because he was an incredible player. 1055 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,760 We did that session. I think it was like three hours. 1056 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,240 And then I packed up and went home, 1057 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,280 not thinking anything more about it than it was just another session. 1058 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,960 And the next day, Glenn called me and asked me 1059 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,320 if I would like to join the band. 1060 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,400 I said, "Absolutely." 1061 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,120 All right, let's do...I'm in heaven. 1062 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,400 Let's go another one. All right, do it right! 1063 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,280 The banter that would go on in between takes was hysterical, 1064 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:20,640 and so I took to running a two-track to pick up these silly things. 1065 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,440 We were young men with raging hormones and something to prove. 1066 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,960 In the context of the times and the profession, 1067 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,840 the way we behaved wasn't really all that remarkable. 1068 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,920 The creative impulse comes from the dark side of the personality, 1069 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,240 so we worked it good, you know. 1070 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,320 We did a lot of stupid things, said a lot of stupid things. 1071 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,680 It was the '70s. There were drugs everywhere. 1072 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:47,960 # Cactus sunrise was in my face Everyone was dying 1073 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,560 # Everyone was lying and trying 1074 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,120 # Well, rub your belly in the linseed oil...# 1075 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,600 There you go. 1076 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,680 Well, the heartbreak of psoriasis has once again descended upon 1077 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,120 the adolescent experience, and we'll see you later. 1078 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,160 See you at the show later on tonight. 1079 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,120 The question was, you know, who could handle it? Who could function? 1080 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,160 Who could show up? 1081 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,080 # One of these nights 1082 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,320 # One of these crazy long nights 1083 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,800 # We're gonna find out, pretty mama 1084 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,880 # What turns on your lights 1085 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,320 # The full moon is calling 1086 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,520 # The fever is high 1087 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,040 # And the wicked wind whispers and more 1088 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,400 # You got your demons 1089 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:51,080 # And you got desires But I got a few of my own 1090 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,200 # Ooooh, someone to be kind to 1091 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,040 # In between the dark and the light 1092 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:06,120 # Ooooh, comin' right behind you 1093 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,560 # Swear I'm gonna find you One of these nights 1094 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,880 # One of these days... # 1095 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,080 There were always girls. 1096 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,200 There were a lot of opportunities out on the road to entertain 1097 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,520 ourselves with one thing or another. 1098 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,200 So, we started to perfect after-show partying, 1099 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,880 and we invented a place called the Third Encore. 1100 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,480 We did two encores in our show, so the third encore was the party. 1101 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,600 Everybody in the band and everybody in the crew was given a bunch 1102 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,600 of buttons, and all we said was, "No weirdos, no strange people, OK? 1103 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,800 "If you're going to give a button to somebody, you know, make it count." 1104 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,120 Totally sick. There's some real warped shit coming on now, ladies and gentlemen. 1105 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,640 A member of Andy Warthog's pop-bowel movement has just tried to crash our party. 1106 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,720 What the? Welcome to Pittsburgh Spread Eagle. 1107 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,560 We want to just ask these girls why they think they have to leave now that it's 2:00. 1108 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,200 One thing, he smells like beer. 1109 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,000 We'd fill the bathtubs up with Budweiser, 1110 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,160 and we'd have a party after every show. 1111 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,120 Your name, please. Tammy Farley. Tammy, Tammy, Tammy. 1112 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,880 Here we have Karen. Karen is 20 years old. Is that correct? 1113 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,360 Yeah. What's your name, dear? Fuck it, man. Pardon? Fuck it. 1114 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,880 Her name's "Fuck it, man." 1115 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,800 I want to talk about sex and drugs. 1116 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,960 Who wants to go first? 1117 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,240 I'm not lost for words on either subject. 1118 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,320 Sex and drugs kind of came as a big package in the '60s. 1119 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,320 You know, it seemed like everybody, the sexual revolution 1120 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:45,000 and the drug thing, I guess, probably started out together. 1121 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,320 Didn't they? 1122 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,320 Don and I both tried to have relationships while we were members 1123 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,440 of the Eagles, but it was always like the Eagles trumped everything. 1124 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,880 When the Eagles became successful, we challenged all the rules. 1125 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,440 Like when David Geffen left Asylum Records 1126 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,520 and sold everything to Warner Bros and started his new empire. 1127 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,400 Let's be frank. When we signed that contract, we were idiots. 1128 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,360 We knew nothing about the business. 1129 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,640 We had poor legal representation, nobody looking out for us. 1130 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,560 Remember, bands don't really get record royalties usually ever. 1131 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,840 So, they get money from touring, but they get publishing money. 1132 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,640 So, in the very beginning, one thing that Geffen did 1133 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,040 that I thought was great. He had us form a band publishing company. 1134 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,480 All the band's publishing went in that. 1135 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,960 The problem was Geffen had the other half. 1136 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,240 Half the Eagles' publishing, half of my publishing, 1137 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,080 half of all the artists that he signed went to Warner Bros, but 1138 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,920 he got them to return mine. 1139 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,520 Jackson turned me on to the Eagles. 1140 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,720 He had turned me on to a lot of artists, 1141 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,960 and I felt I owed him something. 1142 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,960 And that, not surprisingly, was not acceptable rationale to the Eagles! 1143 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,800 There's a certain amount of ire, like, real, you know, like, 1144 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,520 "What the fuck? 1145 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,160 "I mean, we didn't get our publishing back!" 1146 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,160 So, it was the publishing issue and the fact that the business managers 1147 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,560 and the lawyers were all shared common guys, 1148 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,680 and did they have a conflict when an issue came up and which side to take? 1149 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,840 Well, it just makes you feel like meat, you know? 1150 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,800 It started out as such a personal, nurturing endeavour, you know, 1151 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,240 with Mr Geffen saying, "Oh, I'm going to protect you guys. 1152 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,600 "That's why I'm calling my new label Asylum. 1153 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,360 "It's going to be a sanctuary for real artists." 1154 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,880 He once said to Irving Azoff, 1155 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,840 "You know, Irving, this would be a great business 1156 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,120 "if there weren't artists." 1157 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,120 Irving was the one guy who really believed in us, 1158 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,840 that I thought could do something to help us. 1159 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,280 I basically hired a lawyer and went in 1160 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,400 after I said, "The Eagles would like their publishing back," 1161 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,200 to which the obvious response was, "No". 1162 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,360 He sort of drew a line in the sand and declared war, 1163 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,560 so I felt, for my survival, as their manager, 1164 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,040 I needed to prove to them that I wasn't afraid of Geffen 1165 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,040 and would stand up and, you know. 1166 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,520 The lawsuit was filed as a last resort. 1167 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,560 I don't think David liked reading his name in the lawsuit. 1168 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,200 I thought it was incredibly ungrateful 1169 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,640 and they misrepresented the facts, but so be it. 1170 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,600 Ultimately, we settled out of court, 1171 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,440 and I don't believe it took very long. 1172 01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:31,080 He just wanted to get rid of us. 1173 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:36,040 This is our new record contract. 1174 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,960 Just paper! 1175 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,320 So, then we headed off, for parts unknown 1176 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,080 with Irving Azoff at the helm. 1177 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,760 This card game is called Eagle Poker. 1178 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,800 It's a bastardization of Red Dog. 1179 01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:00,720 I invented it in Detroit, Michigan, in 1947... 1180 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,200 one year before I was born. 1181 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:08,160 We were big gamblers. We played poker all the time. 1182 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,080 Oh, boy. They should have never given me money! 1183 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,360 So, we decided we'd go to the Bahamas to gamble. 1184 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,440 Everybody but Don was holding. 1185 01:09:18,440 --> 01:09:20,960 I had like four joints in a baggie, 1186 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,240 stuffed down my sock in my cowboy boot. 1187 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,080 Durkin, the pilot, has a joint. 1188 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,640 Irving had about 30 Valiums in a sugar pack. 1189 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,120 There was a couple of customs officials there 1190 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,400 that asked us to collect all our luggage and come over, 1191 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,960 and they wanted to search us cos we looked terrible. 1192 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,440 We had really long hair and patches on our jeans 1193 01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:42,440 and a beard and not slept. 1194 01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:45,040 Now, I'm freaking out. 1195 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,040 Bernie's freaking out. Irving's freaking out. 1196 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,160 Henley's pissed off. 1197 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,680 Don't touch me. 1198 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,120 Well, the guy proceeds to put us all in a room together, 1199 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,440 and they start searching us one by one. 1200 01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:01,080 My greatest fear is that I'm going to be locked in a jail cell 1201 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,920 with Bernie Leadon. 1202 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,120 So, at this point, Irving steps in and takes 1203 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,880 one of the Bahamian customs guys over to the side 1204 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,640 and has a chat with him. 1205 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,720 I'm not sure, to this day, what Irving said to him. 1206 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,360 The next thing I knew, they let us pass with no problem. 1207 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,040 It was sort of miraculous, really, it was, 1208 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,080 because I thought for sure we were going to be in the slammer. 1209 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,200 It was dumb luck that this guy bought my line 1210 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,560 and didn't search them. 1211 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,680 That was the day I decided, Irving Azoff 1212 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,880 was the greatest manager in rock'n'roll 1213 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,720 and I would never do anything without him by my side. 1214 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,440 I had the only seat in a major championship fight... 1215 01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:47,320 to be sitting there when, you know, when a lyric was thrown out 1216 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,280 and then hear a track. 1217 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,160 # My, oh, my, you sure know how to arrange things... # 1218 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,560 I've watched the creative process with lots of people, 1219 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,320 but I've never seen it the way it fell in place with them. 1220 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,200 I remember watching Lyin' Eyes written. 1221 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,280 Glenn just had a way of coming up with a phrase, you know? 1222 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,080 He had written some kind of a tune, and they were sitting in Tana's 1223 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:13,040 one night and looking at some young girl with an older guy at the bar, 1224 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,920 and Glenn said, "Look at those lyin' eyes." 1225 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,640 And just...just like that, wow, there's the song. 1226 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:25,120 # You can't hide your lyin' eyes 1227 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:31,880 # And your smile is a thin disguise 1228 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:39,160 # I thought by now you'd realise 1229 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:44,840 # There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes... # 1230 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,160 It was just about all these girls who would come down to Dan Tana's 1231 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,680 looking beautiful, and they'd be there from 8:00pm to midnight 1232 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,120 and have dinner and drinks with all of us rockers, 1233 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,440 and then they'd go home because they were kept women. 1234 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:02,520 # On the other side of town a boy is waiting 1235 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:12,120 # With fiery eyes and dreams no-one could steal 1236 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:18,200 # She drives on through the night anticipating 1237 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:23,080 # Cos he makes her feel the way she used to feel... # 1238 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,720 You know, when we were doing the One Of These Nights album, 1239 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,440 we'd gone through three albums, 1240 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:31,920 and the only people who'd sung on any hit records were Don and myself. 1241 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,160 And Randy always felt like, you know, he was a lead singer, too. 1242 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,960 And I actually felt that way, too. I liked his voice. 1243 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,960 So, he brought in the beginnings of Take It To The Limit, 1244 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,240 and it became the Eagles' first number-one single. 1245 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,280 # Take it to the limit, come on 1246 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,400 # And take it to the limit 1247 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:55,000 # One more time 1248 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,440 # Take it to the limit... # 1249 01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:02,040 The line Take It To The Limit was to keep trying 1250 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:07,120 before you reach a point in your life where you feel, you know, 1251 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,160 you've done everything and seen everything sort of feeling. 1252 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,760 You know, a part of getting old, and just to take it to the limit 1253 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,000 one more time, like every day, just keep punching away at it. 1254 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,560 And that's all that I really... that was the line, 1255 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,440 and from there, the song took a different, you know, course. 1256 01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:27,000 # Take it to the limit 1257 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,960 # Ah 1258 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,960 # Take it to the limit. # 1259 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:40,880 I think everybody in the Eagles did the level best we could. 1260 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,080 You have to remember how young we were, 1261 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,080 the fact that nobody had anything when we started, 1262 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,640 and you got all this stuff coming at you. 1263 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,800 Meanwhile, you're touring all the time. It's a lot. 1264 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,000 To Bernie, success on any scale was synonymous with selling out. 1265 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,200 He wanted us to remain sort of an underground band. 1266 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,480 We had our problems with Bernie, and Bernie had his problems with us. 1267 01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:08,840 Some of it was based on him being able to have a voice in the Eagles 1268 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,880 and record the songs he wanted to, the way he wanted to. 1269 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,280 We were getting more and more rocked out, 1270 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,960 and I think Bernie was less and less happy about that... 1271 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,240 to the point that, one time, we had worked on a track all night. 1272 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,040 I mean, it was a rocked-out track, 1273 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,400 and we're all sitting behind the board the next day, 1274 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,760 listening to the various takes of it, trying to decide 1275 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,080 which take we liked the best. Bernie hadn't said a word. 1276 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,480 So, I asked him over the board, I said, "Bernie, what do you think?" 1277 01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:39,000 There's a long pause, and he gets up, and he stretches, 1278 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,080 and he says, "I think I'm going surfing." 1279 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,600 And he left. 1280 01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,600 I was caught in the middle a lot of times. 1281 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,520 And sometimes I would agree with Bernie, 1282 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,960 but most of the time, I would agree with Glenn. 1283 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,600 Glenn and I always wanted the band to be a hybrid, 1284 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,120 to encompass bluegrass and country and rock'n'roll. 1285 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,440 There was a part of Bernie that really resisted that. 1286 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,760 After a while, it became a real problem, 1287 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,520 particularly between Bernie and Glenn. 1288 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,200 Finally, we were at the Orange Bowl in Miami. 1289 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,320 We were backstage, and we were talking about what our next move 1290 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,880 was going to be, what our plans were supposed to be, 1291 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:28,120 and I was animated and adamant about what we needed to do next 1292 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,320 here, there, and everywhere, and Bernie comes over 1293 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,040 and pours a beer on my head and says, "You need to chill out, man." 1294 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,920 I have no idea. It was a spontaneous thing. 1295 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,640 I mean, I take that incident now quite seriously. 1296 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,440 That was a very disrespectful thing to do. 1297 01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:50,600 Obviously, it was intended to be humiliating to him, 1298 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:56,440 I would say, and is something I'm really not proud of. 1299 01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:59,000 It did illustrate a breaking point. 1300 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,160 During that time, we got a couple shows 1301 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,680 opening for the Rolling Stones, and Irving was managing Joe Walsh. 1302 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,320 Joe Walsh was a bona fide rock'n'roll guitar player. 1303 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,400 So, for a couple of those shows, just for our encores, 1304 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,520 we'd put Joe Walsh in a road box, 1305 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,760 and we'd come back to do an encore, and we'd roll the road box out, 1306 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,040 and just like the model jumping out of a cake, 1307 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,080 we'd open the guitar case, and there would be Joe Walsh 1308 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,200 with his Les Paul, and he'd climb out of the box and plug in, 1309 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,240 and the Eagles...we would play Rocky Mountain Way. 1310 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,960 I loved the way he played. 1311 01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,240 I'd loved the James Gang when I was growing up in Detroit. 1312 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:05,120 Now I started thinking, "Joe Walsh for Bernie Leadon." 1313 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,840 # Spent the last year Rocky Mountain Way 1314 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:17,480 # Couldn't get much higher... # 1315 01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:20,640 OK, maybe the vocals won't be quite as good, 1316 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,120 but, boy, are we going to kick some ass! 1317 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,720 # Time to open fire 1318 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,640 # And we don't need the ladies cryin' 1319 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,040 # Cos the story's sad... # 1320 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,840 I think one of the things that I brought into the band 1321 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,240 that was good for the band was 1322 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,200 to bring it up a notch when we played live. 1323 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,120 Just keep kicking it in the butt a little bit, you know? 1324 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,920 All right, DC, come on, give it up! 1325 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,080 I went to a show, maybe eight months later, 1326 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,160 and the band are interacting with each other 1327 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,400 exactly like we did with me onstage, except instead of me, 1328 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,120 Walsh was up there, and it just was, like, really, really odd, you know, 1329 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,520 to be watching it and not be part of it. 1330 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,800 So, I actually left that show. I was just like, 1331 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,720 "This is, like, too weird." 1332 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,120 So, we got Joe Walsh in the band. That's another adventure, 1333 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,400 because Joe was an interesting bunch of guys. 1334 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,120 Hey, I tell you what. If you got firecrackers, 1335 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,720 just wait until you get home, lock yourself in the closet, 1336 01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,760 and light everything you got, OK? 1337 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,680 APPLAUSE 1338 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,000 Thank you, Joe. 1339 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,080 He brought a lot of levity to just about everything that happened, 1340 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,400 which was needed at that time. 1341 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,880 Heads or tails? Heads. 1342 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,400 Well, I could use a little head myself. 1343 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,320 In those days, you didn't know what he was going to do next. 1344 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,800 It was fun most of the time, although not all the time. 1345 01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,280 It was fun, depending on how much you'd had to drink, 1346 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,080 to see a television go sailing off the 14th-floor balcony 1347 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,240 and into the pool, as long as nobody got hurt. 1348 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,200 Joe Walsh was the American King of room trash. 1349 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,040 He had studied under some of the best. 1350 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,960 One of the most terrifying things that ever happened to me 1351 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,600 was that Keith Moon decided he liked me. 1352 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,000 All those Keith Moon stories are true. 1353 01:19:53,960 --> 01:20:00,880 This guy was full-blown nuts, and you never knew what was coming next. 1354 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,960 Keith was my mentor at chaos, getting arrested, 1355 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,600 practical jokes, pranks, room damage. 1356 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,880 # I live in hotels tear out the walls 1357 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:26,000 # I have accountants pay for it all 1358 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:31,360 # They say I'm crazy but I have a good time... # 1359 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,120 One year, we gave him a chainsaw for his birthday as a joke. 1360 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:45,080 # Life's been good to me so far 1361 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,720 # Yeah, yeah, yeah... # 1362 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,680 By this time, we were eating in nice restaurants 1363 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:56,560 and buying expensive wine and staying in great hotel rooms. 1364 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,840 There were a lot of hotels that we weren't allowed to go back to. 1365 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,320 We were in Chicago, and we were staying at the Astor Towers. 1366 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,680 In Chicago, here's what happened. 1367 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,440 There was a knock on the door, and in walked John Belushi. 1368 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:16,760 John wanted to show me the finer restaurants of Chicago. 1369 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,480 So, we went to the restaurant, 1370 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,720 and they wouldn't let us in because we had jeans, and he got 1371 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,520 the maitre d' up to like a $300 bribe 1372 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,320 and still they would not let us in. 1373 01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,040 And John said, "I know what to do. I know what to do." 1374 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,880 And the next thing I knew, we were standing in the alley, 1375 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:40,240 and he spray-painted my jeans black and made me do his, 1376 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,360 and we went back, and we got in. 1377 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,920 We were sitting in these Queen Anne-period chairs that had 1378 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,560 needlepoint, and when we stood up, that was all black, 1379 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,320 and the butts of our pants were jeans again, 1380 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,440 so, we had to kind of back out of there and leave fast. 1381 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,040 But that was the beginning of it. 1382 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,400 And so that night, with much glee, 1383 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,920 Joe set about to set the world record for room trash. 1384 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,640 John and I did $28,000 of room damage. 1385 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,440 Glenn and Don didn't really ever approve of the room trashing, 1386 01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:25,800 but they understood it. 1387 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,120 They wanted respect as rock'n'rollers, 1388 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,840 and Joe brought that respect. 1389 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,600 I was insecure always and afraid, 1390 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:40,520 so I hid behind all of my hang-ups with humour. 1391 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:46,280 I was totally in awe of Don and Glenn. 1392 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:52,080 I was intimidated by Don and Glenn because they sang so good, 1393 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:57,640 and they were writing stuff I could never come close to writing. 1394 01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:03,560 After we've just had a bunch of hit records on One Of These Nights, 1395 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,160 we were under the microscope. Everybody was going to look at 1396 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,720 the next record we made and pass judgment. 1397 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,560 Don and I were going, "Man, this better be good." 1398 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,680 Look at that. It's going to be quite a nice guitar. 1399 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:22,720 Felder, you see this? Who, uh, who tuned this? 1400 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,200 Well, it has no nut. 1401 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,080 With Joe in the band with me, I wanted to write something, 1402 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,720 musically, that would fit two guitar players, that we 1403 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,080 could play off of each other. 1404 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,520 So, I was sitting on a sofa in Malibu at this rental house 1405 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,440 that I had on the beach. I was playing this acoustic guitar 1406 01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:43,360 and this introduction came out, that progression. 1407 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,720 I kept playing it three or four times. 1408 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,920 I had an old reel-to-reel tape recorder, 1409 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,480 so I went back and recorded that introduction to that song and 1410 01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:56,400 laid down that progression, made a mix of it, and put it on a cassette 1411 01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:01,000 with, I don't know, the other 14 or 15 pieces of music that I had 1412 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,560 assembled, and I gave a copy of the cassette to Don, one to Glenn. 1413 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:11,080 Don Felder used to send Henley and I instrumental tapes, song ideas. 1414 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,920 95% of them were cluttered with guitar licks, 1415 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,560 and we would listen to these things and go, "Well, where do you sing?" 1416 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,480 As Don and I were listening through one of the Felder cassettes and this 1417 01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:26,920 song came up, we both sort of said, "Hmm. Now, this is interesting." 1418 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,680 The music sounded to me like some sort of a cross between 1419 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:36,040 Spanish music and reggae music, and that one really jumped out at me. 1420 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,360 So, we set out to write a song to that progression. 1421 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,720 I'm pretty sure it was Henley's idea to have a song called 1422 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,920 Hotel California. 1423 01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:55,280 I think Henley's and Glenn's lyric writing really came to a head. 1424 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,040 They became real honest-to-God songwriters then. 1425 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,760 During the recording of it, I thought that we 1426 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,400 were on to something. I knew we were on to something. 1427 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,400 We were in a really creative phase, 1428 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,800 and it just so happened that Bill Szymczyk pushed record. 1429 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,000 Thank God! 1430 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,480 # On a dark desert highway 1431 01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:28,720 # Cool wind in my hair 1432 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,040 # Warm smell of colitas 1433 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,000 # Rising up through the air 1434 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,200 # Up ahead in the distance 1435 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,160 # I saw a shimmering light 1436 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,480 # My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim 1437 01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:47,880 # I had to stop for the night 1438 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,400 # There she stood in the doorway 1439 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,120 # I heard the mission bell 1440 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,000 # And I was thinkin' to myself 1441 01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,200 # This could be heaven or this could be hell 1442 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,480 # Then she lit up a candle 1443 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:07,840 # And she showed me the way 1444 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,080 # There were voices down the corridor 1445 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,360 # I thought I heard them say 1446 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,080 # Welcome to the Hotel California 1447 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,240 # Such a lovely place Such a lovely place 1448 01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,720 # Such a lovely face 1449 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,080 # Plenty of room at the Hotel... # 1450 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,000 We've been asked a million times, "What does that song mean?" 1451 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,640 Don and I were big fans of hidden, deeper meaning. 1452 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,440 You know, you write songs and you send them out to the world. 1453 01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:43,760 # So I called up the Captain 1454 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,040 # Please bring me my wine 1455 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,400 # He said 1456 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:52,680 # We haven't had that spirit here since 1969... # 1457 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,360 And maybe somewhere in that song is some stuff that's just yours, 1458 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,680 that they're never going to figure out. 1459 01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,960 # Far away 1460 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:03,480 # Wake you up in the middle of the night 1461 01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:05,320 # Just to hear them say... # 1462 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,400 There has been a great deal of ridiculous 1463 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,440 speculation about that song over the years. 1464 01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:12,400 I mean, it's really taken on a life or a mythology of its own. 1465 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,040 It's sort of like the "Paul is dead" thing, or "Who was the walrus?" 1466 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,360 # Bring your alibis... # 1467 01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,160 It's been denounced by Evangelicals. 1468 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,400 We've been accused of all kinds of wacky things, 1469 01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,640 like being members of the Church of Satan. 1470 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,960 People see images on the album cover that aren't there. 1471 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,440 Just lunatic stuff. 1472 01:27:32,440 --> 01:27:39,680 # And in the master's chambers They gathered for the feast 1473 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,480 # They stabbed it with their steely knives 1474 01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:46,760 # But they just can't kill the beast 1475 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,840 # Last thing I remember 1476 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,880 # I was running for the door 1477 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,880 # I had to find the passage back to the place I was before... # 1478 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,480 My simple explanation is it's a song about a journey from innocence 1479 01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:06,040 to experience. That's all. 1480 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,160 # You can check out any time you like 1481 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,880 # But you can never leave... # 1482 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:35,800 Whereas Felder was technically very, very good, Walsh brought spontaneity 1483 01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,560 to it, and the two of them playing off each other was just brilliant. 1484 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,960 Out of great respect for each other, there was always a little 1485 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,640 competition between Felder and I. 1486 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,680 We always tried to kind of one-up each other, you know? 1487 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,040 And that's really healthy. 1488 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,480 It always made the song better when we were kind of, 1489 01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:22,920 "Oh, yeah? Listen to this." 1490 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,960 We got to the end, where now is the harmony guitars that are 1491 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,960 playing together, and Joe said, "We should do something that's like... 1492 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,160 " # Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. # " 1493 01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,120 The ending of Hotel California - 1494 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,760 that's one of my high points of my entire recording career. 1495 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:16,160 To have a seven-minute single be number one - that was unheard of. 1496 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,320 The record company said, "You got to do an edit. You got to do an edit." 1497 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,880 And we all said, "No. Take it or leave it." And they took it. 1498 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,920 We had no idea that that song would affect as many 1499 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,560 people on the planet as it did. 1500 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,040 Thank you. 1501 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:40,200 The rest of the album kind of developed around that song. 1502 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,120 The album, you could loosely say, is a thematic album, a concept album. 1503 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,120 Not unlike Desperado, Hotel California 1504 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,560 was our reaction to what was happening to us. 1505 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,760 On just about every album we made, there was some kind of a 1506 01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:02,680 commentary on the music business and on American culture in general. 1507 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,600 The hotel itself could be taken as a metaphor not 1508 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,200 only for the myth-making of Southern California, 1509 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,240 but for the myth-making that is the American dream because it's a 1510 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,240 fine line between the American dream and the American nightmare. 1511 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:21,160 # When you're out there on your own Where your memories... # 1512 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:26,640 All the songs we write for this album can fit inside this concept. 1513 01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:34,520 # You were lost until you found out what it all comes down to... # 1514 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,920 Once the rest of the guys in the band understood what the song 1515 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,360 Hotel California was about, it became kind of a theme, 1516 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,760 and they started to customise their writing to fit in with it. 1517 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:53,400 # Day by day It's only fair to wait... # 1518 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,680 I think that the Eagles started breaking up 1519 01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,320 during the recording of Hotel California. 1520 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:02,800 There were creative tensions, but there was always tension tensions. 1521 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,440 By the time we got to recording Hotel California, 1522 01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:07,960 if the song wasn't good enough to survive the amount of time 1523 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,560 we were working on the record, it didn't make it on the record. 1524 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,520 Perfection is not an accident. 1525 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,520 'Our goal was just to be the best we could be. 1526 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,440 'We wanted to get better as songwriters' 1527 01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:20,160 and as performers, and we worked on it. 1528 01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:26,600 Don and I felt like there was no space now for filler, and 1529 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:31,360 Don Felder, for all of his talents as a guitar player, is not a singer. 1530 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:37,320 Felder wanted to write more, sing more, and Felder had kind of 1531 01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:41,200 demanded that, "I'm going to sing two songs on Hotel California." 1532 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,800 We were all alphas, 1533 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:55,000 and we were all very assertive and powerful in our own way. 1534 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,600 You could bring in a great track to Don and Glenn 1535 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,080 and be really excited about it. 1536 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:03,480 This happened to Felder. 1537 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,720 I wrote the track for Victim Of Love. 1538 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,600 It was going to be a follow-up song on the Hotel California 1539 01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,080 record for me to sing. 1540 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,800 # Victim of love... # 1541 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,120 I have no recollection of anybody being promised anything. 1542 01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,720 Victim Of Love was not brought to the band as a complete song. 1543 01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:30,280 It was simply another chord progression that Don Felder brought in. 1544 01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,680 It had no title, no lyrics, and no melody. 1545 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,000 Glenn and I and JD Souther 1546 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,280 all sat down and hammered out the rest of it. 1547 01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:40,800 We did let Mr Felder sing it. 1548 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,360 He sang it dozens of times over the span of a week, over and over 1549 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:45,480 and over again. 1550 01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:47,680 It simply didn't come up to band standards. 1551 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,880 Victim Of Love had been recorded with Felder as the lead vocalist, 1552 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,240 and my job was to take Don Felder out to lunch or dinner 1553 01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,520 while they went in the studio and put Henley's vocal on it. 1554 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:04,120 # What kind of love have you got? # 1555 01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:11,160 Irving took me out and said that everybody in the band 1556 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,720 thought that it was better if Don sang that. 1557 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,440 And it was a little bit of a bitter pill to swallow. 1558 01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:19,800 I felt like Don was taking that song from me. 1559 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,120 I'd been promised a song on the next record. 1560 01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,440 But there was no real way to argue with my vocal versus 1561 01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:27,720 Don Henley's vocal. 1562 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,600 There was no way to argue with anybody's vocal in the band 1563 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:31,960 compared to Don Henley. 1564 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,680 Felder demanding to sing that song would be the equivalent of me 1565 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,480 demanding to play lead guitar on Hotel California. 1566 01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:46,960 It just didn't make sense. 1567 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,840 If you look at my vocal participation in the Eagles 1568 01:34:54,840 --> 01:35:00,000 over the course of the 1970s, I sang less and less. 1569 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,960 It was intentional. We had Don Henley. 1570 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:15,880 Don and Glenn's position was, "This is the best thing for the Eagles." 1571 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,000 And Don Felder never forgot that. 1572 01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:24,200 # What kind of love have you got? # 1573 01:35:30,440 --> 01:35:32,760 Get it! Get it! Run! Run! Run! 1574 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:34,440 Shit! 1575 01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,720 This is a real healthy thing. 1576 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:42,040 It promotes good feelings, you know, among...the guys, 1577 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,000 and it keeps us from killing each other. 1578 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,520 Where's my glove? Who's got my glove? 1579 01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,000 If we can yell at each other on a baseball field, 1580 01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,120 then we don't have to yell at each other when we're working. 1581 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,640 Get all my frustrations out. What frustrations? 1582 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,200 I haven't been getting laid. 1583 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,480 We try to get out and play softball with the crew if we have a day off. 1584 01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:06,800 Swing, batter! Oh, it's gone, it's gone. It's gone. 1585 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,720 'Something to help release the tension.' 1586 01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,920 That's really what I do to keep from going crazy. 1587 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,960 How do you keep from going crazy, Joe? 1588 01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,920 Well... 1589 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,080 I tell you, I just, uh... 1590 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,480 'In the press and the media, it was presented that we were 1591 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:36,040 'constantly at war, and I can't say that's exactly the case. 1592 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:45,440 'We were interacting and we were all intense. 1593 01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:47,360 'Glenn said to me one time,' 1594 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:51,440 "I get nuts sometimes and I'm sorry." 1595 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:52,840 Hey, Joe. 1596 01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,880 'But that tension had a lot to do with' 1597 01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,480 fanning the artistic fire. 1598 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:07,040 Having that dynamic was important in making the music. 1599 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,360 Well, we're rehearsing now, and before we're even playing 1600 01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,960 and guys are just noodling around and getting their amps going 1601 01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,160 and stuff, we hear Joe go... 1602 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,760 ..# Do-do-do-do-do. # 1603 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,440 You know, and everyone would kind of go, "What did you play? 1604 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:27,040 "Play that again." 1605 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:31,480 That was an exercise I was doing because it's a coordination thing. 1606 01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:33,640 You know, it's like one of these deals. 1607 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,640 So, I was doing that to warm up, and they said, "Well, what is that?" 1608 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,520 And I said, "Well, that's just something I have, you know? 1609 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,000 There you go. 1610 01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,560 That's the lick. 1611 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,040 That's what we should build the song around. 1612 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,840 I was riding shotgun in a Corvette with a drug dealer on the way 1613 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:01,640 to a poker game, and the next thing I knew, 1614 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,560 we were going about 90 miles an hour, holding big time. 1615 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,280 I was like, "Hey, man. What are you doing?" 1616 01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:10,640 You know, and he looked at me, and he grinned. 1617 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,600 He goes, "Life in the fast lane." 1618 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,320 And I thought, immediately, "Now, there's a song title." 1619 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:23,600 # Life in the fast lane Surely make you lose your mind 1620 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,480 # Life in the fast lane... # 1621 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,920 Then they put out the greatest hits. 1622 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,600 There was a period where we sold a million records 1623 01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,480 a month for 18 months. 1624 01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:40,400 It's a little-known fact that the Eagles had the biggest-selling 1625 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,480 album of the 20th century. 1626 01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:50,000 But the music business never ever got honest of its own volition. 1627 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,640 No record company ever went to an artist and said, 1628 01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:53,960 "You've done a great job. 1629 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,320 "We're going to increase your royalties." 1630 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,440 So we created our own promotion company. 1631 01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,880 We created our own management company. 1632 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,760 We had our own booking agency. 1633 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,240 Stop any time. 1634 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,880 # Take it to the limit... # 1635 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:18,920 We achieved an amount of success beyond our wildest imagination, 1636 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,400 and Randy really had trouble with it. 1637 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,240 Bam! Bam! 1638 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:28,200 'Randy used to have trouble singing the high note at the end of Take It To The Limit.' 1639 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:32,440 # ..Come on and take it to the limit 1640 01:39:32,440 --> 01:39:34,520 # One more time 1641 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,440 # Take it to the limit... # 1642 01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:42,800 Oh, yeah, I was always kind of scared, basically. 1643 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,760 "What if I don't hit it right?" It was a pretty high note. 1644 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,440 And in the middle of the fade, you crank the volume knob and go, "What?!" 1645 01:39:56,440 --> 01:40:04,800 Randy could do it, but if you made him do it, "Oh, no, man, I, uh..." 1646 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:11,240 # One more time. # 1647 01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,000 Thank you. Randy Meisner. 1648 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,080 He'd call the road manager and say, 1649 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,680 "Tell Glenn I don't want to do Take It To The Limit any more. 1650 01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,040 "Take it out of the set." I confronted him about this. 1651 01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:23,240 I called him up, and I said, 1652 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,480 "Randy, there's thousands of people waiting to hear you sing that song. 1653 01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:30,160 "You just can't say, 'Fuck them. I don't feel like it.' 1654 01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:31,880 "Do you think I like singing Take It Easy 1655 01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:33,640 "and Peaceful Easy Feeling every night? 1656 01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,000 "I'm tired of those songs, 1657 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,880 "but there's people in the audience who've been waiting 1658 01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,960 "years to see us do those songs." 1659 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:45,000 We just got fed up with that and just said, "OK, don't sing it. 1660 01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:49,720 "Why don't you just quit? You say you are unhappy, quit." 1661 01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,400 Randy never knew how great he was. He wasn't alpha. 1662 01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,200 Confrontations were really hard for him. 1663 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,680 All I want to see is five guys happy playing together, you know, 1664 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,080 and that's what makes the music. 1665 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,800 We were backstage and the crowd was going wild. 1666 01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,800 And our encore number was Take It To The Limit. 1667 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,240 People loved that song, they went crazy when Randy hit those high notes. 1668 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,400 But Randy didn't want to do the song that night. 1669 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,800 He'd been up partying all night with a couple of girls 1670 01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,880 and a bottle of vodka, and Glenn kept trying to talk him into it. 1671 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,040 He said, "Man, the people want to hear that song. You've got to do it." 1672 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,200 And Randy kept saying no. 1673 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,960 So after about the third or fourth time that Randy refused, Glenn 1674 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,640 just backed up a couple of steps and said, "Well, fuck you then!" 1675 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,440 There were police officers standing backstage and when they saw us 1676 01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:45,960 about to go at it, they started to move in 1677 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:50,560 and Henley turned right to the cops and said, "Stay out of this! 1678 01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,280 "This is personal and it is private, real fucking private!" 1679 01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,280 The writing was on the wall and Randy was going to leave. 1680 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:07,800 There was only one person to ever replace Randy Meisner in the Eagles 1681 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,320 and in my mind it was Timothy B Schmit. 1682 01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:17,600 He replaced him in Poco, and plugged in and sang the same parts. 1683 01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,440 And I remember sitting with Irving and saying, "Irving, I think 1684 01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:26,680 "we should get Timothy Schmit." He said, "Well, I just saw Timothy. 1685 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,440 "I was out on the road when the guys in Poco were in the hotel bar 1686 01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:33,000 "and Timothy was smashed out of his mind, he was jacked up. 1687 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,800 "You sure about this?" 1688 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,960 I said, "Irving, if you had been in a band for 11 years 1689 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,760 "and you were still making $250 a week working 40 weeks a year, 1690 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,720 "maybe you would be a little smashed up yourself." 1691 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:49,600 They asked me to join their band before I had even played 1692 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,560 a note of music with them. 1693 01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,520 I just said, you know, "Where do you want me? When? 1694 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,680 "I am definitely in." 1695 01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,120 We want to introduce you to the newest member of our band. 1696 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,080 He is our new bass player and we got him from a really fine band, Poco. 1697 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,520 Please give a nice Houston, Texas welcome to Timothy Schmidt. 1698 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:08,880 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1699 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,640 I went on the road with them in 1978 as the new guy. 1700 01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:20,320 # Your smile is a thin disguise... # 1701 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:26,000 And I heard a few, "Where is Randy?" From the audience. 1702 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,080 But I knew it was a good move for them and me. 1703 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:40,080 There were a lot of decisions business-wise that needed to be made 1704 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:44,720 in a secret session, Glenn and Don and Irving in the back of the plane. 1705 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,880 I didn't like that I wasn't part of that, 1706 01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:51,920 but I knew that it was good for the Eagles. 1707 01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:55,640 Don Felder REALLY did not like it. 1708 01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,920 Glenn and I saw ourselves as the leaders of the band 1709 01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:02,080 but other people saw us dictators. 1710 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:06,800 You just cannot have five leaders in a band. It does not work. 1711 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,520 People have to do what they do best. 1712 01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:15,120 There is all this undercurrent and resentment and plotting 1713 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:20,360 and complaining and I'm sure Timothy thought, "What have I got myself into?" 1714 01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:24,200 I was just really happy to be there and all these tensions, it is 1715 01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,720 not that I did not feel it, but I had no idea how deep it was. 1716 01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,440 In my experience, all rock'n'roll bands are on the verge of 1717 01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:33,040 breaking up at all times. 1718 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:39,000 The band at that point had begun to split up into factions. 1719 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:43,040 Don Felder, in an effort to gain more control, had co-opted Joe Walsh, 1720 01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:47,360 so much of the time it was Felder and Walsh against me and Glenn. 1721 01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:51,000 And at that point, even Glenn and I were beginning to have our differences. 1722 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,680 It was tearing the band apart. 1723 01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:57,560 The magic ingredient that made the band successful was 1724 01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,800 the relationship between Don and Glenn. 1725 01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:03,680 Through years of touring, years in the studio, all of that 1726 01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:08,160 friction really started driving a wedge in between that relationship. 1727 01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:14,160 It reached a point where we were just tired of each other. 1728 01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:19,760 Tired of the hoopla, tired of touring, tired of pretty much everything. 1729 01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:23,480 At that point, song-writing was becoming very difficult. 1730 01:45:23,480 --> 01:45:26,520 How much sleep did you guys get? When did you get finished loading up? 1731 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,720 Two o'clock? 5.30. 530 this morning? Yeah. OK. 1732 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:35,640 After the success of Hotel California - Grammy winner, mega sales - 1733 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,200 top that, and we show up at the studio and nobody has one song done. 1734 01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:46,480 I don't know what we will do first but... 1735 01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:52,680 I had enough of a piece where they both went "That's great. 1736 01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,960 "Let's develop that," and I was really pleased that they wanted to 1737 01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:59,680 develop that one because it came out more as an R&B song. 1738 01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:04,600 And it is very simple. 1739 01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:09,400 Very simple instrumentation, very simple arrangement. 1740 01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,240 There's a lot of air in it. 1741 01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,240 That's why it works. 1742 01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:27,760 # Look at us baby Up all night 1743 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,160 # Tearing our love apart 1744 01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:38,360 # Aren't we the same two people who live... # 1745 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:43,160 About halfway through, Don comes up to me and says, "There's your hit." 1746 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:51,680 # Every time I try to walk away 1747 01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,120 # Something makes me turn around and stay 1748 01:46:55,120 --> 01:47:00,640 # And I can't tell you why... # 1749 01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:09,520 We are on top of the world. We are young. We were overdoing everything. 1750 01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,040 There was a lot of chemical dependency going on within 1751 01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,920 the band and that was rough. 1752 01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:28,280 During all of that time of writing and recording The Long Run, 1753 01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,960 and all the time on the road that we were on the road doing 1754 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,480 The Long Run, we were all using cocaine. 1755 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,320 When we first started snorting coke it was like a writing tool. 1756 01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,760 Do a couple of bumps and kind of get started talking about stuff, 1757 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:47,120 get yourself going and launch into some sort of idea for a song. 1758 01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:51,360 But in the end, cocaine brought out the worst in everybody. 1759 01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,800 Yes, this half hour of the show is brought to you by cocaine, 1760 01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:57,120 the makers of hits. 1761 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,600 # In the long run 1762 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:07,600 # Ooh, I want to tell you it's a long run... # 1763 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:11,880 Making that album was excruciating. We were just completely burned out. 1764 01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,200 We had driven ourselves really hard for almost a decade 1765 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:16,720 and we were just fried. 1766 01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,480 It was long too. I mean, the days and hours would drag on, it would 1767 01:48:21,480 --> 01:48:24,080 feel like we were not getting anything done. 1768 01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,840 It was more painful than Hotel California. 1769 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,040 It was more of a painful birth, 1770 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:40,120 because all the stuff was going on and we were getting pretty frazzled. 1771 01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:48,760 And the record company didn't care if we farted and burped. 1772 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:55,040 They would put that out. They didn't care. 1773 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:59,840 "When can we have it?" Because that was their whole corporate quarter. 1774 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:02,360 # Who can go the distance? 1775 01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:07,080 # We will find out in the long run 1776 01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,280 # In the long run... # 1777 01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:14,120 At that point, we inked in The Long Run as the title. 1778 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:19,160 I think Henley said, "I know what to call this one. Look at us." 1779 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,440 # We can handle some resistance... # 1780 01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:23,480 MUSIC STOPS 1781 01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:25,960 Hold it. Stop. 1782 01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,440 That is it. 1783 01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,080 Eagles, The Long Run, song two, take one. 1784 01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:36,360 It was a struggle, an endless start, stop, start, stop. 1785 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:37,960 We called it The Long One. 1786 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,600 It was the beginning of the end. 1787 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,080 Even though I don't think I saw it right then. 1788 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:51,520 There were a lot of things building up 1789 01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,280 and a lot of things I tried to overlook for the good of the band, 1790 01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:58,800 and ultimately I just couldn't look past some of this any more. 1791 01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,280 And it festered because we didn't talk about these things. 1792 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,840 It finally came to a head in Long Beach. 1793 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:09,320 We were doing a benefit for Senator Alan Cranston. 1794 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,680 He was concerned about a lot of some of the same issues 1795 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,520 we were concerned about, including environmental destruction 1796 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,520 and the war, so we wanted to support him. 1797 01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,160 Felder didn't like us doing benefits, 1798 01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,040 he just thought that was money that should be going into his pocket. 1799 01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,880 "Why are we doing it for Jerry Brown or anti-nukes?" 1800 01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:31,080 # Are you willing to sacrifice? # 1801 01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:36,280 Alan Cranston and his wife are coming around to personally thank 1802 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,960 every member of the Eagles for doing this. 1803 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:43,560 I was very uninformed about politics, I could care less 1804 01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:47,320 about politics, I didn't even know or care who Alan Cranston was. 1805 01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:50,720 Senator Cranston went up to Felder and said, 1806 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,520 "I want to thank you," and Felder looked at the Senator and said, 1807 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:57,080 "You're welcome," and then as he was turning away he said, "I guess." 1808 01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,440 "I guess." 1809 01:50:58,440 --> 01:51:01,480 "I guess." And Glenn heard it. 1810 01:51:01,480 --> 01:51:05,200 And I just...got really mad. 1811 01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:08,400 I was drinking a long-necked Bud and walked into the tuning room 1812 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,560 while Walsh and Felder was and took the beer bottle 1813 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,600 and threw it against the wall and smashed it. 1814 01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,040 I stormed out. 1815 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:22,600 I got more mad and more mad. By the time we went on stage, I was seething. 1816 01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,200 I wanted to kill Felder. 1817 01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,720 Thank you again very much from all the Eagles, 1818 01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,880 and for Senator Cranston for coming out here and checking it out. 1819 01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:32,800 One, two, three, four. 1820 01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:42,480 A lot of tensions between Glenn and Felder 1821 01:51:42,480 --> 01:51:48,720 and the real manifestation of it came that night. 1822 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:54,480 # Somebody is going to hurt someone before the night is through... # 1823 01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:56,920 So now we are playing the show 1824 01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,160 and trying to act like everything is OK and we get through the songs, 1825 01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:05,560 and I just keep looking over at him, "You ungrateful son of a bitch." 1826 01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,480 # There's going to be a heartache tonight 1827 01:52:08,480 --> 01:52:11,160 # A heartache tonight, I know... # 1828 01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:16,640 Just seeing that, I really saw how serious it was at that show. 1829 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,440 They were fighting on stage, there's audio of it. 1830 01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:22,040 You are a real pro, Don, all the way. 1831 01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:25,120 Yeah, you are too, the way you handle people, except for the people you pay. 1832 01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:26,400 Nobody gives a shit about it. 1833 01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,400 Fuck you, I have been paying you for seven years, you fuckhead. 1834 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,240 So it starts getting towards the end of the set 1835 01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,920 and I am looking at him going, "Three more songs, asshole." 1836 01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,800 And I am looking at him and I am ready to go. 1837 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,080 I can't wait to get my hands on him. 1838 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:47,000 "When we get off the stage, I am going to kick your ass." 1839 01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,440 Fucking kill you. I can't wait. 1840 01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:56,840 Whoa! When that kind of stuff is on stage and you're in front of people, 1841 01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,440 you've got problems. 1842 01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:05,280 Thank you very much. 1843 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:11,240 We got through the show and it just, all hell broke loose backstage. 1844 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:16,760 When the set ended, he was out ahead of me, took his cheapest guitar... 1845 01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:27,320 ..busted it in a million pieces, jumped into his limousine and drove off. 1846 01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,400 And that was it. That was really the straw that broke the camel's back. 1847 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:36,880 # Well, baby, there you stand... # 1848 01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,920 Someone wrote the Eagles went out with a whimper not a bang, 1849 01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:48,480 which was true. 1850 01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:56,560 # Oh, my God, I can't believe it is happening again... # 1851 01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:01,160 I didn't want to hear it. This was like my super dream had come true. 1852 01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:04,200 # And it looks like the end... # 1853 01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:09,920 So I called Glen and I said, "What is the status? What is going on? 1854 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,720 "Is this thing really broken up?" He said, "Yeah, it is over." 1855 01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:21,160 We were beat and it was really affecting the foundational core, 1856 01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:25,040 the soul of the band. We hit the wall. 1857 01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:28,240 You work, work, work, you get up to a peak 1858 01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:36,040 and then it is almost invariably people head-butt and, "Whose band is it?" 1859 01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:39,840 And, "I am in charge." And, "No, you are not." And there you go. 1860 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:48,200 # You never thought you'd be alone this far down the line... # 1861 01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,960 We had always said that we wanted to step off the wave just before it 1862 01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:53,840 crashed into the beach and we did. 1863 01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:02,360 # You're afraid it's all been wasted time... 1864 01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:11,320 # The autumn leaves have got you thinking... # 1865 01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:17,560 The Beatle guys say they never thought, McCartney never thought that 1866 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:22,000 band was going to last more than two years, because no pop band did. 1867 01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:24,840 I think it's part of it. It comes together, it's magic 1868 01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,800 and it falls apart. 1869 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:33,000 But how cool... that it even happens at all. 1870 01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:36,480 # I could have done so many things, baby... # 1871 01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:37,960 It was magical. 1872 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,560 # If I could only stop my mind... # 1873 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:44,000 They wrote a lot of great, great songs that will be celebrated 1874 01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,960 and listened to and loved for a long time. 1875 01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:54,880 We managed to represent that period of time in the '70s, 1876 01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:59,960 Southern California, which was very artistically creative. 1877 01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:08,760 I hope that is remembered like the roaring '20s are, you know? 1878 01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,560 Our generation and what we did. 1879 01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:17,160 # ..You can get on with your search, baby 1880 01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:22,640 # And I can get on with mine 1881 01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:28,840 # And maybe some day we will find 1882 01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:36,640 # That it wasn't really wasted time. # 1883 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:47,120 We set out to become a band for our time, but sometimes 1884 01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:51,320 if you do a good enough job, you become a band for all time. 1885 01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:16,280 # One of these nights One of these crazy old nights 1886 01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,960 # We're going to find out, pretty mama... # 1887 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,760 A funny thing happened right when we broke up. 1888 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:29,600 1980 is when the format "classic rock" hit American radio. 1889 01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:31,320 So, even though the band broke up, 1890 01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,360 they kept playing our songs all the time. 1891 01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:37,280 It was like we never went away. 1892 01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:38,840 We were still on the radio. 1893 01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,400 # Well, I'm a-running down the road Trying to loosen my load 1894 01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:47,200 # I got seven women on my mind... # 1895 01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,600 Somebody once told me people didn't just listen to the Eagles. 1896 01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,800 They did things to the Eagles. 1897 01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:53,840 They went on fandangos 1898 01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,880 and drove across the country with three of their high-school buddies. 1899 01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,360 # Take it easy... # 1900 01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,400 People broke up with their girlfriends. 1901 01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:05,920 # Every time I try to walk away 1902 01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:11,720 # Something makes me turn around and stay... 1903 01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:16,400 # Cos I'm al-l-l-lready gone 1904 01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:23,560 # And I'm fee-e-e-eling strong... # 1905 01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,640 People quit their jobs or changed their lives. 1906 01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,240 They did things to the Eagles. 1907 01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,040 # Hey there, how are you? 1908 01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,400 # It's been a long time... # 1909 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:39,760 Songs from that album have even been played in outer space. 1910 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,480 And they used to pipe the music up to the space shuttle to wake 1911 01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,400 the astronauts up in the morning. 1912 01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,760 'Shortly after having a breakfast of steak and eggs and toast, 1913 01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,920 'he then put on his space suit...' 1914 01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,880 # And heroes, they come and they go... # 1915 01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:11,360 # He was a hard-headed man, he was brutally handsome 1916 01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,920 # She was terminally pretty... 1917 01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,120 # On a dark desert highway 1918 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,520 # Cool wind in my hair... # 1919 01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,120 That song has really gotten around. 1920 01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,120 # ..Rising up through the air 1921 01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:38,000 # Up ahead in the distance 1922 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,600 # Saw a shimmering light 1923 01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,400 # Head grew heavy and my sight grew dim 1924 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,600 # I had to stop for the night... # 1925 01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,880 There's been a lot of conjecture about how 1926 01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:51,320 and why we got back together. 1927 01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,960 We began to realise that we'd been away for 14 years. 1928 01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,560 Maybe we could have that rarest of things in American life, 1929 01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:59,680 which is a second act. 1930 01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:01,320 You know, a second chance. 1931 02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,320 CHEERING 1932 02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:13,160 Thank you. 1933 02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,640 When we stopped, I was really sad. 1934 02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,240 Like, "What are we going to do?" 1935 02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,920 # I sleep all day, out all night 1936 02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:29,400 # I know where you're going 1937 02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,200 # I don't know, you act that way 1938 02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,280 # You don't think it's showing... # 1939 02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:38,600 I was pretty devastated. 1940 02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,880 I had only been part of it for barely three years, 1941 02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,160 and I'd loved it. 1942 02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:50,120 # When we're hungry Love will keep us alive... # 1943 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,760 We created this monster, and it took its toll on all of our lives. 1944 02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:03,800 # Maybe some day we will find 1945 02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:11,800 # That it wasn't really wasted time... # 1946 02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:17,320 Somebody was quoted as saying the Eagles would get back together 1947 02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:19,600 when hell freezes over. 1948 02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:21,800 So, hell froze over. 1949 02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:28,280 # Mmm-m-m-mmm mm-mm-mmm. # 1950 02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:37,240 WOMAN: We're all ready. The gentleman in blue over there. 1951 02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:39,680 After the acrimony and the bitterness that marked 1952 02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:43,000 the demise of the band, it must have been a long road to reunion. 1953 02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,680 Can you just take us through the steps that you went through 1954 02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:47,640 on the road to reunification? 1955 02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:52,120 No. 1956 02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:54,360 LAUGHTER 1957 02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,960 SCATTERED APPLAUSE 1958 02:01:59,960 --> 02:02:01,760 Anybody want that one? 1959 02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:03,880 No, really, it's a fair question. 1960 02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,880 From the time that we disbanded in 1980, 1961 02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:10,640 there were always offers on the table for us to get back together. 1962 02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,680 It started with the first US Festival, 1963 02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,360 and Steve Wozniak wanted to pay us a million dollars. 1964 02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:17,000 I said no. 1965 02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:23,960 I needed to do something else. 1966 02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:26,720 # The heat is on 1967 02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:29,000 # It's on the street 1968 02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,240 # The heat is... on! # 1969 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,920 I called my first solo album No Fun Aloud because I was having 1970 02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:39,160 so much fun. 1971 02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:42,000 It was so liberating to know that whatever I did 1972 02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,920 was going to be more fun than what I just did for the last three years on 1973 02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,120 The Long Run album. 1974 02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,520 I knew I wanted to have a songwriting partner, so I 1975 02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:54,080 asked my friend Jack Tempchin if he wanted to write some songs together. 1976 02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:57,480 And Jack's a very bright guy lyrically, 1977 02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,560 and so I started working with him. 1978 02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:03,560 He had become a disciplined co-writer with Don Henley, 1979 02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,240 and when the Eagles broke up, he just wanted to let go 1980 02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,560 and have some fun with music, you know? 1981 02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:11,800 So we were fiddling around with some grooves, and one of us said, 1982 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:13,280 "You belong to the city." 1983 02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,720 And then we're going, "Oh, yeah, yeah. That's it." 1984 02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,160 # Cos you belong to the city 1985 02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:23,400 # You belong to the night... # 1986 02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,280 You just show up and good things happen. 1987 02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:34,120 # I make my living off the evening news... # 1988 02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:38,360 Henley's solo career was really, really successful. 1989 02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:43,520 Going solo was the scariest part of my life. 1990 02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:47,680 # All she wants to do is dance, dance... # 1991 02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:50,720 The whole MTV thing was a difficult transition for me to make. 1992 02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:52,280 You know, the Eagles, at one point, 1993 02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:56,480 had been accused by some critic of loitering onstage. 1994 02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:59,640 So it was difficult for us loiterers to make 1995 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:04,080 the transition to the world of choreography and costume and acting. 1996 02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:08,560 # She wants to party She wants to get down... # 1997 02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:10,800 Did I benefit from MTV? Yes, I did. 1998 02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,560 You know, I made a couple of videos that won some MTV awards. 1999 02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,640 Nevertheless, I would just as soon have skipped the whole thing, 2000 02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:20,160 because I considered myself, first and foremost, a songwriter 2001 02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:21,880 and a recording artist. 2002 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,360 I didn't really want to be an actor, too. 2003 02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:28,280 Nice, huh? 2004 02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:30,880 The guy who sold it to me said it was a lemon. 2005 02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:33,080 But I'm telling you, it may look like a cow, 2006 02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:34,600 but she runs like a stallion. 2007 02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,360 I always like to take a good-bye look at America. 2008 02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:44,600 Just in case it's my last. 2009 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,120 I acted in television, in movies. 2010 02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:52,200 I wasn't thinking about getting back together with the Eagles. 2011 02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:53,840 The guy's got an attitude problem. 2012 02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:56,440 Yeah, well, he listens to me. I can help you with that. 2013 02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:58,040 'Cameron would call me up and say, 2014 02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:00,480 '"Glenn, I gotta find somebody that's not going to take' 2015 02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:02,960 "any shit off Tom Cruise, and I think you're the guy." 2016 02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,480 We have history, Dennis. 2017 02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,560 Oh, yeah. We got history all right, Jerry. 2018 02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:09,440 No, no, no. No, no, no. Dennis! Dennis! Dennis! Don't! Don't! 2019 02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:13,400 # Nobody on the road 2020 02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:15,480 # Nobody on the beach 2021 02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:17,920 # I feel it in the air 2022 02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:20,840 # The summer's out of reach... # 2023 02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,840 I signed Don Henley to Geffen Records. 2024 02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:26,040 Now, you might say, since the Eagles sued me 2025 02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:28,800 at Asylum Records, why he did come with me at Geffen Records? 2026 02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,400 Well, David uses the same pick up lines 2027 02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:32,920 every time he comes a-courtin'. 2028 02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,040 "You know how much I care about you as an artist. 2029 02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:36,920 "You know what a big fan I am of yours." 2030 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:39,840 And so I bought it a second time and I signed with him. 2031 02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,560 And then things started to fall apart. 2032 02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:47,920 I produced several hits, but I could feel the support somehow waning. 2033 02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:52,640 Don got into arguments with them over things like budgets, 2034 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:55,040 videos, artwork, things like that. 2035 02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,800 I recall Don starting to write letters to them 2036 02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,120 referring to them as "Nickel and Dime Records". 2037 02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:02,320 When you feel like your label is not supporting you, 2038 02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:04,000 it's completely deflating. 2039 02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:05,880 I used to call him "Golden Throat". 2040 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:07,680 I thought he was an incredible singer. 2041 02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:13,000 But, by nature, he's a malcontent. He's always been a malcontent. 2042 02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,480 And, you know, that's just life. 2043 02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:18,120 So I just said one day, "I'm not going to record for you anymore. 2044 02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:21,920 "I'm leaving." And so he sued me for $30 million. 2045 02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:25,640 # Happily ever after fails 2046 02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:30,480 # We've been poisoned by these fairy tales 2047 02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:34,040 # The lawyers dwell on small details... # 2048 02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:36,200 My wife has MS, and they deposed her, 2049 02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:37,840 dragged her all the way from Texas 2050 02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:41,480 to Los Angeles to sit her down in front of his attorneys and ask her 2051 02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:45,240 a bunch of pointless questions, because she didn't know anything. 2052 02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,320 I thought that was really low. 2053 02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:50,800 I said to Irving over the Henley contract, 2054 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:53,400 "I'd sooner die than let you fuck me. 2055 02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:55,240 "You'd better win this case." 2056 02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:59,640 It was settled, you know, and that was the end of that relationship. 2057 02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:03,160 # Offer up your best defence 2058 02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:06,400 # This is the end... 2059 02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:10,720 # This is the end 2060 02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:13,120 # Of the innocence. # 2061 02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:16,920 I've realised now that we have adult rock stars. 2062 02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:23,800 You don't have to give this up when you turn 30 or 35 or 40. 2063 02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:29,560 I'll always make records and write songs. I've got to do them. 2064 02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:30,800 Otherwise, I'd go nuts. 2065 02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:47,360 This is a tune that was written with my new friend Mike Campbell 2066 02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:49,760 and my old friend John David Souther. 2067 02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:51,240 'When the band broke up, 2068 02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:54,760 'Glenn started writing songs with Jack Tempchin. 2069 02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:56,480 'I guess the rift between Henley 2070 02:07:56,480 --> 02:08:00,400 'and Frey probably spread to between Frey and me.' 2071 02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,320 Glenn and I had had some outrageously fun times together. 2072 02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:06,440 And then Don and I did for a decade or so. 2073 02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:10,880 # Been trying to get down to the heart of the matter 2074 02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:17,320 # But my will gets weak and my thoughts seem to scatter 2075 02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:20,760 # But I think it's about forgiveness 2076 02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:29,960 # Forgiveness, even if, even if, you don't love me anymore. # 2077 02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,000 How have you changed as musicians over the years, 2078 02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,280 both as a group and individually? 2079 02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:39,600 Well, your whole mandate is just to improve. 2080 02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,520 You know, life is about improvement, 2081 02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,680 whether it's as a musician or as a singer or as a songwriter or 2082 02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:48,040 just, you know, all the other different hats we all wear. 2083 02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:50,320 So, hopefully, we're just getting better. 2084 02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:52,880 We've been doing this quite a long time now on and off, 2085 02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,240 and we feel like we've got it down pretty good. 2086 02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:59,400 And, in fact, we've had five days off, and we're ready to go now. 2087 02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:03,680 When the Eagles first broke up, 2088 02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:06,960 I wasn't quite sure what I was going to do with myself. 2089 02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:08,320 So I just hustled. 2090 02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,320 I went just as a singer with Toto, 2091 02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:13,200 I played bass for Jimmy Buffett, I went out with Warren Zevon 2092 02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,360 and Dan Fogelberg, and stuff I wouldn't have necessarily done. 2093 02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:18,880 I sang on Poison records and Twisted Sister, 2094 02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:21,160 although you'll never see my name. 2095 02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:22,800 They never gave me credit. 2096 02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:24,800 That was more like yelling. 2097 02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:29,440 It's not all going to be the greatest thing in the world. 2098 02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:33,680 But if you can work and support yourself and your family, it's good. 2099 02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:37,360 WOMAN: OK, next question. Gentleman in the front here, Richard. 2100 02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:40,160 What position do you think rock'n'roll takes now about drugs? 2101 02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:41,520 Oooh. 2102 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:43,440 SCATTERED TITTERS 2103 02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:48,880 We came from a generation that experimented with all kinds 2104 02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:51,360 of substances, of course. 2105 02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:55,880 I think our message is that... you can be a damn good rock band 2106 02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:57,520 without all that stuff. 2107 02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:04,040 I'd like to propose a toast to dedicate this song to you, to us. 2108 02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:09,880 The drinking man's musician, Joe Walsh! 2109 02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:11,800 CHEERING 2110 02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:24,960 I ended up an alcoholic. 2111 02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:31,040 And very fond of cocaine. 2112 02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:38,280 If I was awake, I was... 2113 02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:40,800 I was doing that stuff. 2114 02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:44,560 Good morning, rock fans. 2115 02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:49,560 'In the very early years, it had briefly worked.' 2116 02:10:53,160 --> 02:10:59,640 And then you chase it when it doesn't work anymore. 2117 02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:01,800 And I chased it for years and years. 2118 02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:11,760 # If you look at your reflection 2119 02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:15,520 # In the bottom of the well 2120 02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:21,200 # What you see is only on the surface... # 2121 02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:25,920 "Could Hemingway have written like that if he was sober, 2122 02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,560 "or could Hendrix have played like that 2123 02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:31,840 "if he didn't experiment with hallucinogenics? 2124 02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:33,840 "Well, probably not." 2125 02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:38,240 I used that one for years and years, and it never occurred to me 2126 02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:40,360 that all those people are dead. 2127 02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:43,640 They got further and further away from reality. 2128 02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:48,120 Should I look at you or the camera? Look at me. 2129 02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:56,120 I ended up...in bad shape. 2130 02:11:56,120 --> 02:12:00,000 # I wanna live with a cinnamon girl 2131 02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:05,920 # I could be happy the rest of my life 2132 02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,640 # With a cinnamon girl 2133 02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:15,840 # A dreamer of pictures I run in the night... # 2134 02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:18,640 'I had hit bottom.' 2135 02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:24,120 And I knew that I was done and that... 2136 02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:30,120 ..I would probably die if I kept going. 2137 02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:35,600 # Mom, send me money right now I'm gonna make it somehow 2138 02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,720 # I need another chance... # 2139 02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,760 Joe was a mess. 2140 02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:45,000 He was around a bunch of people that were really just enablers. 2141 02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:46,440 Nobody wanted to intervene. 2142 02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:50,720 Nobody wanted to tell him he had a drug problem or a drinking problem. 2143 02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:54,360 Everybody was just going along with Joe. 2144 02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:59,680 I remember what we all did when it was an art form, you know? 2145 02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:05,360 And I'd like to fight to get it back to that. 2146 02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:08,360 And I was very, very happy in the Eagles. 2147 02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:11,400 I was just going to say I'm sorry we broke up, but we didn't break up. 2148 02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:12,880 We just stopped, I think. 2149 02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,760 We just said, you know, "The heck with the '80s." 2150 02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:19,200 Song three, take six. 2151 02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:23,560 In 1990, we tried to get together to refuel it. 2152 02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:27,000 Everybody was in on that, but Glenn wasn't involved yet. 2153 02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:34,840 Irving got us together - Timothy, Joe, myself, and Don Henley. 2154 02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:37,120 Glenn was supposed to join us in the studio, 2155 02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:39,560 and he was going to bring some songs in, 2156 02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:41,840 and we were going to start making another record. 2157 02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:44,840 So, we started rehearsing, the four of us, then we got a call, 2158 02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:48,480 I think about the third or fourth day in the studio, saying that 2159 02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:54,520 Glenn had refused to come be part of it, to join the party. 2160 02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:55,800 So we just stopped. 2161 02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:59,120 He was still, "I'm not doing this." 2162 02:13:59,120 --> 02:14:00,760 Well, you know, to tell you the truth, 2163 02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:03,520 I was having a fine time doing what I was doing. 2164 02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:05,920 I mean, there's more to life than being in the Eagles. 2165 02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:07,920 The moment was always going to be kind of 2166 02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:09,680 when Glenn was ready to do it again. 2167 02:14:09,680 --> 02:14:12,200 I think Henley would have been more willing than Glenn. 2168 02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:15,120 For me, personally, I think that I had proved pretty much 2169 02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:18,720 everything that I needed to prove in my solo career. 2170 02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:20,880 I had won a couple of Grammys and had a few hits 2171 02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:22,720 and some successful tours. 2172 02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:25,320 And I had founded the Walden Woods Project. 2173 02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:27,920 When you're a solo artist, you have to take responsibility 2174 02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:32,160 for everything - every mistake, every bad record, every sour note. 2175 02:14:32,160 --> 02:14:33,560 But when you're in a band, 2176 02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:36,280 you get to share the praise and the blame with your bandmates. 2177 02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:38,480 So, I was OK with the notion of maybe going back 2178 02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:39,960 and being in a band again. 2179 02:14:43,320 --> 02:14:45,840 The thing that sort of turned my head 2180 02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:48,200 was the release of the Common Thread album. 2181 02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:50,280 Irving and Don went to Nashville 2182 02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:53,760 and they talked a bunch of people into recording some Eagles songs, 2183 02:14:53,760 --> 02:14:56,400 with the royalties going to the Walden Woods Project. 2184 02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:59,760 # Well, I'm a-running down the road trying to loosen my load... # 2185 02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:01,480 I don't know who asked me, but they said, 2186 02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,760 "Travis Tritt's going to do a video of Take It Easy 2187 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:07,120 "and he wants to know if you guys will be in the video." 2188 02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:09,920 I said, "Well, OK." 2189 02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:13,360 # Take it easy 2190 02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:15,880 # Take it easy... # 2191 02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,480 Never really talked to Travis about whose idea it was. 2192 02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:22,320 I think Irving probably had a hand in that whole thing. 2193 02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:25,200 Was I trying to put the band back together by doing Common Thread? 2194 02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:26,720 No. 2195 02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:28,920 Was I waiting for the moment? Yeah. 2196 02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:33,320 # ..Understand, just find a place to make your stand 2197 02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:37,400 # Take it easy... # 2198 02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:42,600 In the Travis Tritt video, there was a little bandstand scene 2199 02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:45,760 and we all picked up our instruments and started playing. 2200 02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:49,960 I was thinking, "Guys, come on!" You know? 2201 02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:52,880 'You know, it's interesting - after years pass, you know, 2202 02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:56,120 'you really sort of remember that you were friends first. 2203 02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:58,720 'You have a lot of common history together 2204 02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:01,040 'and a lot of shared experiences.' 2205 02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:04,040 I remembered mostly the good stuff. 2206 02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:06,840 I didn't really think about the bad stuff. 2207 02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:09,600 I just remembered how much we genuinely had liked each other 2208 02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:11,160 and how much fun we'd had. 2209 02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,480 We realised, after the success of the Common Thread album 2210 02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:19,440 that there were still a lot of people out there - 2211 02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:22,480 a whole lot of people - who wanted to see us play again. 2212 02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:24,960 You know, sometimes there's a little bit of serendipity 2213 02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:28,120 involved in this, and I think what happened is everybody's life 2214 02:16:28,120 --> 02:16:34,040 started to line up in a way that now it made sense for all of us. 2215 02:16:34,040 --> 02:16:37,680 And we discussed it. 2216 02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:41,440 Joe and Don came up and sat in at a benefit that I did in Aspen. 2217 02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:43,520 'We had a meeting in Aspen.' 2218 02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:48,880 I was one of the first guys that they wanted to try it out on. 2219 02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:52,120 You know, Joe was buzzed. It was 1.00 in the afternoon. 2220 02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:56,240 You know, and he would say, "Hey, I'm there, man. I'm fine. 2221 02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:58,120 "Don't worry about me." 2222 02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:04,760 But Don and I could both tell that he wasn't fine, and we were worried. 2223 02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:06,440 They said what they wanted to do. 2224 02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:09,600 They wanted to try it, get back together again. 2225 02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,840 They didn't know what I would say, but I said, 2226 02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:17,080 "I understand, and, yeah, I can get sober." 2227 02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:24,840 # Somewhere along the way I found the meaning 2228 02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:27,800 # Woke up dreaming 2229 02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:31,280 # Along the way 2230 02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:38,920 # Never quite seems the same when you awaken 2231 02:17:40,640 --> 02:17:46,160 # And making up for the time is such a price to pay 2232 02:17:47,680 --> 02:17:52,640 # Then they take the dream away and it just ain't fair... # 2233 02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:57,520 We had to get Joe into some sort of rehab, 2234 02:17:57,520 --> 02:18:00,440 and we couldn't be sure it was going to work. 2235 02:18:00,440 --> 02:18:02,080 So we'd better have Felder. 2236 02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:05,440 The Eagles reunion had better have at least one of the two of them, 2237 02:18:05,440 --> 02:18:07,080 and hopefully both. 2238 02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:09,960 Irving called me up and said that Don and Glenn 2239 02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:13,080 and Joe had gotten together, and they were talking about doing 2240 02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:15,440 something, and would I be interested in doing it? 2241 02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:17,320 I said, "Absolutely." 2242 02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:22,320 One thing led to another, and finally Irving 2243 02:18:22,320 --> 02:18:25,480 and Don Felder picked him up and drove him to rehab. 2244 02:18:27,320 --> 02:18:31,040 I made a commitment to them that I would clean up... 2245 02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:36,960 ..and that I would be in the band... 2246 02:18:39,080 --> 02:18:41,360 ..if that's what they wanted to do. 2247 02:18:41,360 --> 02:18:44,720 # So help me through the night 2248 02:18:44,720 --> 02:18:49,920 # Help me to ease the pain... # 2249 02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:53,720 I'm really, really grateful to those three guys... 2250 02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:56,240 # Tell me it's all right... # 2251 02:18:56,240 --> 02:19:03,920 ..because I had... a really good reason to get sober. 2252 02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:11,800 And as soon as I got sober, we started rehearsals. 2253 02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:32,760 # He was a hard-headed man He was brutally handsome 2254 02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:36,600 # She was terminally pretty 2255 02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:42,320 # She held him up, and he held her for ransom 2256 02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:45,960 # In the heart of the cold, cold city 2257 02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:51,240 # He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude 2258 02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:54,840 # They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude... # 2259 02:19:54,840 --> 02:19:57,440 From that first phone call from Irving 2260 02:19:57,440 --> 02:20:00,720 to showing up on a rehearsal stage to start putting together 2261 02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:04,520 a show for MTV was only a matter of weeks, if not a month. 2262 02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:09,280 # Life in the fast lane Surely make you lose your mind... # 2263 02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:14,440 'It was a little scary rehearsing for the MTV thing. 2264 02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:18,680 'Normally, I think people would have their act down a few weeks, 2265 02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:21,760 'at least, before entering into something like that, 2266 02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:25,120 'but we just dove in headfirst.' 2267 02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:37,240 'Well, even though we had rehearsed really well, 2268 02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:39,640 'for the first time to walk out on stage and actually 2269 02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:43,840 'play as a band in public and kind of put the key back into the ignition 2270 02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:47,800 'and turn it over for the first time, it was really a lot of nerves.' 2271 02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:52,240 Are we going the right way? Glenn. 2272 02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:55,120 'Not having played as a group in 14 years, the first night, 2273 02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:57,040 'there was a lot of terror.' 2274 02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:01,480 Gentlemen, good to be with ya. Hope I'm with ya all night! 2275 02:21:01,480 --> 02:21:02,640 LAUGHTER 2276 02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:06,400 Have a good one, OK? OK. Showtime! Showtime! Showtime! 2277 02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:08,440 CHEERING 2278 02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:19,440 'The audience was very kind, and they were with us. 2279 02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:23,400 'And that was good, but it was rough.' 2280 02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:26,640 # Just another day in paradise 2281 02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:31,440 # You stumble to your bed 2282 02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:36,560 # You'd give anything to silence 2283 02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:41,760 # Those voices ringing in your head 2284 02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:47,160 # You thought you could find happiness 2285 02:21:49,040 --> 02:21:51,880 # Just over that green hill 2286 02:21:53,880 --> 02:21:56,960 # You thought you would be satisfied 2287 02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:01,440 # But you never will. # 2288 02:22:01,440 --> 02:22:05,080 'Even when we went onstage, we were definitely a little tight. 2289 02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:07,840 'Until, I think, Henley forgot the words 2290 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:10,240 'to one of the new songs...' 2291 02:22:20,360 --> 02:22:22,560 You want to start again? 2292 02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:24,440 I'll tell you what. 2293 02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:29,360 This is television, so we get to do this till we're happy. 2294 02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:33,560 I thought... Now, I thought you didn't remember the third verse. 2295 02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:35,880 That was only the second verse! I know. 2296 02:22:35,880 --> 02:22:38,080 I know the third verse. 2297 02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:39,960 'That was sort of the icebreaker, though. 2298 02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:41,560 'That was a good thing, ultimately.' 2299 02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:43,320 I feel like Tommy Smothers. 2300 02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:45,640 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 2301 02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:52,160 We didn't think getting back together was quite as legitimate 2302 02:22:52,160 --> 02:22:53,920 unless we had some new material, 2303 02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:57,080 so we're going to put forth several new songs for you this evening. 2304 02:22:57,080 --> 02:22:59,480 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 2305 02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:02,440 This first one Timothy B Schmit is going to sing for you. 2306 02:23:02,440 --> 02:23:05,440 This is called Love Will Keep Us Alive. 2307 02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:07,880 # I was standing 2308 02:23:07,880 --> 02:23:13,160 # All alone against the world outside 2309 02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:18,160 # You were searching 2310 02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:23,080 # For a place to hide 2311 02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:27,680 # Lost and lonely 2312 02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:32,480 # Now you've given me the will to survive 2313 02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:41,480 # When we're hungry, love will keep us alive... # 2314 02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:47,400 After selling 100 million records worldwide, was it real pressure 2315 02:23:47,400 --> 02:23:51,320 on you to write the new material for the Hell Freezes Over album? 2316 02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:56,920 We didn't really look at it as a body of new work. 2317 02:23:56,920 --> 02:24:00,360 It was more of a retrospective piece of material. 2318 02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:03,920 And we look forward to writing some new material, perhaps in the future. 2319 02:24:03,920 --> 02:24:06,560 We can't keep recycling this material, 2320 02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:08,800 although it seems to be working just fine. 2321 02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:10,320 LAUGHTER 2322 02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:17,080 Don and I were trying to figure out how to write another song, 2323 02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:19,240 and, I mean, really, if we could. 2324 02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:22,000 We hadn't written anything together since, like, '78. 2325 02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:25,640 So it was a little awkward at first, just getting back into the groove. 2326 02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:28,600 Yeah. So, we go, one... 2327 02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:31,240 OK, here we are starting out at one, two... 2328 02:24:31,240 --> 02:24:32,760 During The Long Run album, 2329 02:24:32,760 --> 02:24:36,120 there were a lot of sessions with Don and I where nothing got done. 2330 02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:38,240 We were both a little bit reticent to introduce 2331 02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:40,760 our ideas for fear that they weren't good enough. 2332 02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:45,160 So when we sat down to do it again in '94, my first worry was, 2333 02:24:45,160 --> 02:24:48,160 "Is it going to be as hard as it was in 1978?" 2334 02:24:50,120 --> 02:24:53,120 We were sitting around, "What are we going to write about?" and stuff. 2335 02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:56,760 And he said, "Well, I've got this one title, Get Over It." 2336 02:24:56,760 --> 02:24:59,760 And he sort of proceeded to tell me what it was that was 2337 02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:03,240 pissing him off - all these people going on television 2338 02:25:03,240 --> 02:25:06,520 and everything that's wrong with them is somebody else's fault. 2339 02:25:06,520 --> 02:25:09,120 "I'm just sick of all this whining, 2340 02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:11,800 "and so I'm going to write a song called Get Over It." 2341 02:25:11,800 --> 02:25:17,160 The intro, straight Chuck Berry. Never play a seventh, right? 2342 02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:21,920 So, then I said, "I think 2343 02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:25,320 "maybe a Chuck Berry riff would be a good way to tell that story." 2344 02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:28,360 Time out. Do you want to play the...? 2345 02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:30,560 You want to do it on slide? 2346 02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:33,240 And then Felder and I will just play power chords low and high. 2347 02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:35,800 And those guys will play Chuck Berry low and high. 2348 02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:38,680 And we can do # Get over it. # 2349 02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:41,680 A couple little of them slide answer licks is cool. 2350 02:25:41,680 --> 02:25:46,160 My favourite thing is when Don and Glenn co-write stuff. 2351 02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:48,640 I like to play guitar to that. 2352 02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:11,680 You want me to sing it, or do you want to wait? It's ten to six. 2353 02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:15,120 You can sing it at ten to six or five to six. 2354 02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:17,880 Do it again? Yeah, we'll do it twice. 2355 02:26:17,880 --> 02:26:20,200 Yeah, you could write it in to the mic. 2356 02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:22,280 LAUGHTER 2357 02:26:22,280 --> 02:26:24,320 Captioned for hard of hearing. 2358 02:26:30,360 --> 02:26:32,760 'It was really liberating.' 2359 02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:37,000 We both walked out of the session and went, "God, we can still do it. 2360 02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:39,280 "I can't believe it. We just wrote a song together. 2361 02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:40,800 "Maybe we can write some more." 2362 02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:42,800 # Turn on the tube and what do I see? 2363 02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:45,640 # A whole lotta people crying, "Don't blame me"... # 2364 02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:47,920 That was a really good feeling. 2365 02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:51,680 It was a great sort of artistic reconciliation for us 2366 02:26:51,680 --> 02:26:54,160 to have been able to sit down and write that song together. 2367 02:26:57,440 --> 02:26:58,680 # Get over it! 2368 02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,680 # Get over it! 2369 02:27:02,680 --> 02:27:06,000 # All this bitching and moaning and pitching a fit 2370 02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:08,760 # Get over it! Get over it! # 2371 02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:27,920 Get over it! 2372 02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:29,720 APPLAUSE 2373 02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:36,520 We did Hell Freezes Over, and then we went out on the road. 2374 02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:43,040 That was the question on everyone's mind - 2375 02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:46,080 what if we got back together, and no one showed up? 2376 02:27:51,280 --> 02:27:55,600 # What kind of love have you got? 2377 02:27:57,280 --> 02:28:01,200 # You should be home but you're not 2378 02:28:02,960 --> 02:28:06,480 # A room full of noise and dangerous boys 2379 02:28:08,560 --> 02:28:12,200 # Still make you thirsty and hot... # 2380 02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:15,520 'We set it up to be a three-month reunion. 2381 02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:18,680 'I went back to my wife, and I had two young kids at the time.' 2382 02:28:18,680 --> 02:28:21,360 I said, "I don't know if you're going to recognise me. 2383 02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:24,440 "I don't know what this is going to do to me. 2384 02:28:24,440 --> 02:28:28,480 "But I hope I don't change too much. Hang in there with me." 2385 02:28:28,480 --> 02:28:31,120 # Tell all your girlfriends 2386 02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:34,080 # Your "been around the world" friends 2387 02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:37,680 # Talk is for losers and fools 2388 02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:44,800 # Victim of love, I see a broken heart 2389 02:28:46,280 --> 02:28:49,480 # I could be wrong but I'm not 2390 02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:55,400 # Victim of love, we're not so far apart 2391 02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:59,600 # What kind of love have you got? # 2392 02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:04,000 I was on the side of the stage once at one of their shows 2393 02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:08,080 when they first got back together, and Jack Nicholson was 2394 02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:12,760 euphoric listening to this band play again, you know? 2395 02:29:12,760 --> 02:29:17,160 And he said... "Repertoire." 2396 02:29:18,960 --> 02:29:20,320 What do you want to hear? 2397 02:29:20,320 --> 02:29:23,480 # One of these nights 2398 02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:26,840 ALL: # One of these crazy old nights! # 2399 02:29:28,760 --> 02:29:31,720 # One of these nights... # 2400 02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:35,680 We didn't know how many people were going to show up for us 2401 02:29:35,680 --> 02:29:38,440 to reunite, but people came out in droves. 2402 02:29:45,320 --> 02:29:47,960 # Somebody's gonna hurt someone 2403 02:29:47,960 --> 02:29:50,920 # Before the night is through... # 2404 02:29:50,920 --> 02:29:53,080 We were sold out everywhere. 2405 02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:56,120 Audiences were having a fabulous time. 2406 02:29:56,120 --> 02:29:57,560 We were having a good time, too. 2407 02:29:57,560 --> 02:30:00,600 # There's gonna be a heartache tonight 2408 02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:02,920 # A heartache tonight, I know 2409 02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:08,480 # Gonna be a heartache tonight 2410 02:30:08,480 --> 02:30:11,240 # A heartache tonight, I know 2411 02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:13,920 # Oh, I know. # 2412 02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:33,840 Heartache, baby! 2413 02:30:38,520 --> 02:30:41,160 I listened to the guys, and Joe Walsh, for example, 2414 02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:44,240 is playing better and singing better than I've ever heard him 2415 02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:46,440 play in his life since I've known him. 2416 02:30:47,880 --> 02:30:50,880 # Hi there, how are ya? 2417 02:30:50,880 --> 02:30:53,760 # It's been a long time 2418 02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:56,880 I didn't have time to really sit around 2419 02:30:56,880 --> 02:31:03,040 and miss alcohol or cold turkey for more cocaine or anything. 2420 02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:06,520 And I had to go in front of people 2421 02:31:06,520 --> 02:31:10,960 and play and sing sober, 2422 02:31:10,960 --> 02:31:13,880 which I hated, at first. 2423 02:31:13,880 --> 02:31:15,320 Ooh, that was scary. 2424 02:31:15,320 --> 02:31:22,040 # Why do we give up our hearts to the past? 2425 02:31:22,040 --> 02:31:23,800 # Yeah 2426 02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:29,840 # And why must we grow up so fast? 2427 02:31:31,960 --> 02:31:36,120 # Oooh-oooh ooh-h 2428 02:31:47,720 --> 02:31:55,240 # And all you wishing well fools with your fortunes 2429 02:31:57,040 --> 02:32:02,840 # Someone should send you a rose 2430 02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:07,600 # With love from a friend 2431 02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,960 # Nice to hear from you again 2432 02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:16,680 # And the storybook comes to a close 2433 02:32:19,160 --> 02:32:23,920 # Gone are the ribbons and bows 2434 02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:33,040 # Things to remember, places to go 2435 02:32:34,520 --> 02:32:38,400 # Pretty maids all in a row 2436 02:32:39,800 --> 02:32:43,440 # All in a row. # 2437 02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:51,080 When Joe first got out of rehab and we started rehearsing, 2438 02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:53,320 he was still pretty dark. 2439 02:32:53,320 --> 02:32:56,440 But over the course of that first year getting sober, I think 2440 02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:59,000 he found happiness again. 2441 02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:00,800 He found a way to be happy. 2442 02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:10,040 You look very pretty. 2443 02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:13,000 It's OK. Once more. Oh, now, are you ready? 2444 02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:15,040 Father, daughter, take one. 2445 02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:19,840 We got that family thing to ground us all now. 2446 02:33:19,840 --> 02:33:23,520 It's really sort of our common thread. We've all got kids. 2447 02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:28,840 It changes your life and your perspective on your work, as well. 2448 02:33:40,440 --> 02:33:43,680 So, the tour was so enormously successful that we sort of 2449 02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:46,200 didn't want to give that up, you know? 2450 02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:49,440 It's like, "OK, this is good. I could do this for a while." 2451 02:33:49,440 --> 02:33:51,800 # Harry got up 2452 02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:55,240 # Dressed all in black 2453 02:33:57,080 --> 02:33:58,920 # Went down to the station 2454 02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:02,320 # And he never came back 2455 02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:06,240 # They found his clothing 2456 02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:09,600 # Scattered somewhere down the track 2457 02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:16,600 # And he won't be down on Wall Street in the morning 2458 02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:19,840 # In a New York minute 2459 02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:24,040 # Ooh-h-h-h 2460 02:34:24,040 --> 02:34:27,160 # Everything can change In a New York minute 2461 02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:30,200 # Ooh-h-h-h 2462 02:34:30,200 --> 02:34:32,280 # Things can get pretty strange... # 2463 02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:34,880 Doing a concert is a strange combination of conscious 2464 02:34:34,880 --> 02:34:36,240 and subconscious acts. 2465 02:34:36,240 --> 02:34:38,480 You're not really thinking about what you're doing 2466 02:34:38,480 --> 02:34:40,800 because you know it so well, you're just doing it. 2467 02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:43,200 On the other hand, you have to put some emotion into it. 2468 02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:45,200 When you've got a crowd that's cheering you on, 2469 02:34:45,200 --> 02:34:48,200 doesn't matter how many times you've sung the song. You just do it. 2470 02:34:48,200 --> 02:34:51,080 # Lying in the darkness 2471 02:34:51,080 --> 02:34:53,800 # Hear the sirens wail 2472 02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:58,360 # Somebody's going to emergency 2473 02:34:58,360 --> 02:35:00,760 # Somebody's going to jail 2474 02:35:00,760 --> 02:35:05,560 # If you find somebody to love in this world 2475 02:35:05,560 --> 02:35:07,760 # You better hang on tooth and nail 2476 02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:14,040 # The wolf is always at the door 2477 02:35:16,280 --> 02:35:18,000 # In a New York minute 2478 02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:21,600 # Ooh-ohh-ohh 2479 02:35:21,600 --> 02:35:25,040 # Everything can change In a New York minute 2480 02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:28,800 # Ooh-ohh-ohh 2481 02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:32,400 # Things can get a little strange In a New York minute 2482 02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:35,280 # Ooh-ohh-ohh... # 2483 02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:38,480 We've played all over the world, and, probably, 2484 02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:41,400 if we could write the script, it was probably a genius move. 2485 02:35:41,400 --> 02:35:43,960 Cos when we come back, it's bigger than ever. 2486 02:35:43,960 --> 02:35:47,920 How much money do you expect to gross with this European tour? 2487 02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:49,880 Irving? 2488 02:35:49,880 --> 02:35:53,000 I actually haven't added it up, but I will tell you that... Good answer. 2489 02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:54,880 LAUGHTER 2490 02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:59,680 One thing, the costs of being a touring rock'n'roll band 2491 02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:03,680 in Europe are beyond our wildest imaginations, but this 2492 02:36:03,680 --> 02:36:07,840 band is here in Europe because there was demand for us to be here. 2493 02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:11,080 And it's not nearly as lucrative as anything we've done before. 2494 02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:15,080 It isn't? 2495 02:36:15,080 --> 02:36:17,040 LAUGHTER 2496 02:36:21,640 --> 02:36:24,240 Offers started coming in for us to do more shows, 2497 02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:26,320 and I just sort of said, "Well, book some more. 2498 02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:28,600 "It doesn't have to end now. Book some more. 2499 02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:31,200 "Where else can we play?" "Well, you haven't been in Europe." 2500 02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:32,600 "Well, let's go there." 2501 02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:36,760 # Well, I heard some people talking just the other day 2502 02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:43,000 # And they said you were gonna put me on a shelf 2503 02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:47,960 # Let me tell you I got some news for you 2504 02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:51,240 # And you'll soon find out it's true 2505 02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:56,560 # Then you'll have to eat your lunch all by yourself 2506 02:36:58,480 --> 02:37:03,440 # Cos I'm al-l-l-lready gone 2507 02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:09,360 # And I'm fee-e-eling strong 2508 02:37:11,640 --> 02:37:15,960 # I will si-i-i-ng this victory song... # 2509 02:37:15,960 --> 02:37:17,960 How's it go? 2510 02:37:17,960 --> 02:37:23,120 # Hoo-hoo-hoo! My, my, hoo-hoo-hoo 2511 02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:24,800 GUITAR SOLO 2512 02:37:38,080 --> 02:37:42,600 # Well, I know it wasn't you who held me down... # 2513 02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:45,240 'We had drawn a line in the sand and said,' 2514 02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:47,960 "No drugs or alcohol during any band activities." 2515 02:37:47,960 --> 02:37:52,320 And, as a result, we're playing and singing pretty damn good. 2516 02:37:52,320 --> 02:37:57,360 # So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains... # 2517 02:37:57,360 --> 02:38:00,240 'I think the thing that brings them together is the harmony.' 2518 02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:04,080 When they start hearing that and how seamless and how perfect, they 2519 02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:07,720 get as thrilled as the audiences do, that, "We can still do this." 2520 02:38:07,720 --> 02:38:10,600 THEY HARMONISE 2521 02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:20,520 # Ooh-ooh-ooh 2522 02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:29,040 # Ooh-ooh-ooh... # 2523 02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:33,920 We can't really understand it. It's just the chemistry that works. 2524 02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:37,960 And we gave up trying to understand it. It just works. 2525 02:38:37,960 --> 02:38:40,280 We're just going to do one verse of New Kid. 2526 02:38:40,280 --> 02:38:43,600 One verse of New Kid. OK. Joe's singing Smuggler's Blues. 2527 02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:46,440 OK. I'll just do the beginning of Funk 49. 2528 02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:50,040 And then I'm going to go pee. Yeah. Then I'll go pee. 2529 02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:51,960 One, two, three. 2530 02:38:53,840 --> 02:38:55,840 CHEERING 2531 02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:11,960 # Well, I'm a-running down the road trying to loosen my load 2532 02:39:11,960 --> 02:39:14,560 # I got seven women on my mind 2533 02:39:15,960 --> 02:39:19,240 # Four that want to own me, two that want to stone me 2534 02:39:19,240 --> 02:39:21,760 # One says she's a friend of mine 2535 02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:24,800 # Take it easy 2536 02:39:25,880 --> 02:39:28,640 # Take it easy 2537 02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:33,960 # Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy 2538 02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:39,120 # Lighten up while you still can 2539 02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:42,440 # Don't even try to understand 2540 02:39:42,440 --> 02:39:45,320 # Just find a place to make your stand 2541 02:39:45,320 --> 02:39:48,360 # And take it easy 2542 02:39:53,560 --> 02:39:56,760 # Well, I'm a-standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona 2543 02:39:56,760 --> 02:39:59,400 # Such a fine sight to see 2544 02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:03,760 # It's a girl, my Lord, in a flat-bed Ford 2545 02:40:03,760 --> 02:40:06,880 # Slowin' down to take a look at me 2546 02:40:06,880 --> 02:40:09,320 # Well, come on, baby 2547 02:40:09,320 --> 02:40:11,720 # Don't say maybe 2548 02:40:13,400 --> 02:40:18,320 # I've gotta know if your sweet love is gonna save me 2549 02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:22,880 # We may lose and we may win 2550 02:40:22,880 --> 02:40:26,480 # Though we will never be here again 2551 02:40:26,480 --> 02:40:29,800 # So open up, I'm climbing in 2552 02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:33,280 # So take it easy... # 2553 02:40:33,280 --> 02:40:35,160 All right, boys! 2554 02:40:35,160 --> 02:40:38,480 'We ended up going all around the world in about two years 2555 02:40:38,480 --> 02:40:40,600 'and nine months.' 2556 02:40:40,600 --> 02:40:45,520 # Well, you know we got it ea-a-a-asy 2557 02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:52,120 # We oughta take it ea-a-a-a-asy. # 2558 02:40:58,400 --> 02:41:01,440 Thank you, Dublin! 2559 02:41:01,440 --> 02:41:03,680 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 2560 02:41:07,400 --> 02:41:12,280 We've learned not to make career decisions at the end of long tours. 2561 02:41:12,280 --> 02:41:14,600 If we break up again, though, you won't hear about it. 2562 02:41:14,600 --> 02:41:18,320 We'll just go quietly. And we'll say we're still together. Yeah! 2563 02:41:18,320 --> 02:41:21,120 LAUGHTER 2564 02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:24,840 They've laughed, cried, fought, but, most of all, 2565 02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:28,720 they have beaten the odds and are as popular today 2566 02:41:28,720 --> 02:41:32,800 as they were in that incredible summer back in 1972. 2567 02:41:32,800 --> 02:41:36,160 It is an honour and a pleasure to introduce the Eagles. 2568 02:41:36,160 --> 02:41:38,160 APPLAUSE 2569 02:41:41,480 --> 02:41:44,360 A lot has been talked about and speculated about over 2570 02:41:44,360 --> 02:41:48,000 the last 27 years about whether or not we got along. 2571 02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:51,400 We got along fine. We just disagreed a lot. 2572 02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:56,280 I was not in the trenches with this particular band, 2573 02:41:56,280 --> 02:42:00,200 so I'd like to thank my predecessor, Randy Meisner, for being there. 2574 02:42:00,200 --> 02:42:04,280 'I'm glad that Randy and Bernie got recognised.' 2575 02:42:04,280 --> 02:42:06,160 I think that's appropriate. 2576 02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:10,200 Hey, how you doin'? 2577 02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:13,680 It's a good feeling. Looks good on my resume. 2578 02:42:15,080 --> 02:42:17,280 HE CHUCKLES 2579 02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:20,680 I'd really like to thank Don and Glenn for writing those songs. 2580 02:42:20,680 --> 02:42:25,160 Thank you, guys. It makes my job real easy. Thank you! 2581 02:42:25,160 --> 02:42:27,360 APPLAUSE 2582 02:42:28,680 --> 02:42:30,560 Charming outfit, Joe. 2583 02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:32,600 I'd like to, again, 2584 02:42:32,600 --> 02:42:36,320 thank Don Henley and Glenn Frey for writing an incredible body of work 2585 02:42:36,320 --> 02:42:40,360 that's propelled this band through 20-some-odd years' worth of life. 2586 02:42:40,360 --> 02:42:41,720 Thank you, guys. 2587 02:42:41,720 --> 02:42:44,920 When a kid first picks up a guitar or a drumstick, 2588 02:42:44,920 --> 02:42:46,560 it's not really to be famous. 2589 02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:48,920 It's because that kid wants to fit in somewhere, 2590 02:42:48,920 --> 02:42:54,280 he wants to be accepted, and he wants to be understood, even. 2591 02:42:54,280 --> 02:42:59,040 And so, I like to think of this award as something that is 2592 02:42:59,040 --> 02:43:03,760 acknowledging us not for being famous, but for doing the work. 2593 02:43:03,760 --> 02:43:07,160 And I appreciate all the work that all these guys behind me have done. 2594 02:43:07,160 --> 02:43:09,160 I want to thank Irving Azoff, 2595 02:43:09,160 --> 02:43:11,560 without whom we wouldn't be here today. 2596 02:43:11,560 --> 02:43:13,880 APPLAUSE 2597 02:43:13,880 --> 02:43:17,080 As I've said before, he may be Satan, but he's our Satan. 2598 02:43:18,520 --> 02:43:21,040 We're in a dog-eat-dog business. 2599 02:43:21,040 --> 02:43:24,400 Show me anybody that's going to be responsible for guiding or 2600 02:43:24,400 --> 02:43:27,720 managing an artist's career that's made too many friends, 2601 02:43:27,720 --> 02:43:29,680 and I'm going to show you somebody 2602 02:43:29,680 --> 02:43:32,280 that's sold out their artist and done a crappy job. 2603 02:43:32,280 --> 02:43:37,320 So, I was quite proud of Henley's reference of what he said. 2604 02:43:37,320 --> 02:43:41,160 It was more or less, for me, a validation of a job well done. 2605 02:43:41,160 --> 02:43:44,920 A lot of my job was trying to keep the band from breaking up. 2606 02:43:44,920 --> 02:43:49,120 In the '70s, we formed a corporation called Eagles, Limited. 2607 02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:51,360 And that was all-for-one and one-for-all. 2608 02:43:52,680 --> 02:43:54,680 Well, it wasn't the three musketeers. 2609 02:43:54,680 --> 02:43:59,840 As our friend JD Souther used to say, "Time passes, things change." 2610 02:43:59,840 --> 02:44:02,680 In talking with Irving about putting the Eagles back 2611 02:44:02,680 --> 02:44:06,240 together in 1994, I said, "Irving, I'm not going to do it 2612 02:44:06,240 --> 02:44:09,040 "unless Don and I make more money than the other guys." 2613 02:44:10,280 --> 02:44:12,480 "We're the only guys who have done anything 2614 02:44:12,480 --> 02:44:14,880 "career-wise in the last 14 years. 2615 02:44:14,880 --> 02:44:18,160 "We're the guys that have kept the Eagles' name alive on radio, 2616 02:44:18,160 --> 02:44:20,160 "television and in concert halls." 2617 02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:23,480 So we came up with a deal that I was happy with, 2618 02:44:23,480 --> 02:44:26,160 and Don was happy with, Timothy was happy with, 2619 02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:29,880 Joe was happy with, and Don Felder was not happy with. 2620 02:44:29,880 --> 02:44:31,960 And I called Felder's representative. 2621 02:44:31,960 --> 02:44:34,680 And I said, "Hello, Barry. This is Glenn Frey. 2622 02:44:34,680 --> 02:44:37,840 "I'm sorry you happen to represent the only asshole in the band, 2623 02:44:37,840 --> 02:44:39,840 "but let me tell you something. 2624 02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:43,280 "You either sign this agreement before the sun goes down today, 2625 02:44:43,280 --> 02:44:45,240 "or we're replacing Don Felder. 2626 02:44:45,240 --> 02:44:46,680 "That's the final deal. 2627 02:44:46,680 --> 02:44:49,520 "He signs by sunset, or he's out of the fucking band." 2628 02:44:50,560 --> 02:44:51,960 Hung up. 2629 02:44:51,960 --> 02:44:55,720 So, he signed the deal, and we started out on the tour. 2630 02:44:56,880 --> 02:45:00,240 I didn't sense a great deal of camaraderie. 2631 02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:01,840 You hardly saw anybody 2632 02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:05,280 if it wasn't walking on the plane or walking onto the stage. 2633 02:45:05,280 --> 02:45:07,920 Everyone thought, "Well, if we don't get together, 2634 02:45:07,920 --> 02:45:09,680 "we won't have problems." 2635 02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:12,760 And I think instead of being able to sit down and have a beer and talk 2636 02:45:12,760 --> 02:45:17,440 about stuff and renew a relationship with everyone, that independent 2637 02:45:17,440 --> 02:45:23,520 isolation really didn't add the comfort necessary to make it work. 2638 02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:29,640 Don Felder was never, ever satisfied, never, ever happy. 2639 02:45:32,040 --> 02:45:35,000 A rock band is not a perfect democracy. 2640 02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:36,480 It's more like a sports team. 2641 02:45:36,480 --> 02:45:39,240 No one can do anything without the other guys, 2642 02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:42,840 but everybody doesn't get to touch the ball all the time. 2643 02:45:42,840 --> 02:45:47,480 Time went on, and time went on, and Felder became more and more unhappy. 2644 02:45:47,480 --> 02:45:50,480 Couldn't appreciate the amount of money he was making, 2645 02:45:50,480 --> 02:45:53,640 more concerned about how much money I was making. 2646 02:45:59,440 --> 02:46:02,120 If Don Felder really thought about it, 2647 02:46:02,120 --> 02:46:05,800 it really was he wanted it to be a "band" band in the purest 2648 02:46:05,800 --> 02:46:09,640 sense of the words, you know, we're all going to get equal songwriting, 2649 02:46:09,640 --> 02:46:13,400 singing, expression stuff, and this was not a hippie commune. 2650 02:46:13,400 --> 02:46:15,480 You know, and everything for them 2651 02:46:15,480 --> 02:46:17,840 really goes back to those two words - song power. 2652 02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:24,320 We finally made the decision that we won't be working with him anymore. 2653 02:46:25,440 --> 02:46:29,640 It just broke my heart. It's not just playing with Joe. 2654 02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:32,320 I miss these guys. 2655 02:46:32,320 --> 02:46:35,680 But I really missed the friendship and the music. 2656 02:46:38,320 --> 02:46:40,680 OK. 2657 02:46:42,800 --> 02:46:46,320 Glenn and I, when it comes time to make band decisions, 2658 02:46:46,320 --> 02:46:48,120 usually stick together. 2659 02:46:48,120 --> 02:46:52,000 It's difficult for four or five people to have an equal say. 2660 02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:55,480 Here we are 40 years later, and we're doing OK. 2661 02:46:55,480 --> 02:46:58,280 We're one of the few bands that can say that. 2662 02:46:59,440 --> 02:47:03,040 The novelty of the Eagles being back together and those few new songs 2663 02:47:03,040 --> 02:47:05,960 that we had on the Hell Freezes Over album is one thing. 2664 02:47:05,960 --> 02:47:08,600 But we needed to make a record. 2665 02:47:10,440 --> 02:47:13,840 Considering that we haven't made a record in so long, 2666 02:47:13,840 --> 02:47:19,040 we spent a good two-and-a-half years making Long Road Out Of Eden. 2667 02:47:19,040 --> 02:47:22,480 We finally figured out that we just needed to do what we do. 2668 02:47:22,480 --> 02:47:24,920 This really goes back to the essence of what we do best, 2669 02:47:24,920 --> 02:47:27,280 which is singing and songwriting. 2670 02:47:27,280 --> 02:47:29,520 A lot of harmony singing on this album. 2671 02:47:29,520 --> 02:47:33,680 ALL: # There's a hole in the world tonight 2672 02:47:33,680 --> 02:47:39,000 # Don't let there be a hole in the world tomorrow... # 2673 02:47:40,360 --> 02:47:43,480 Big tragedies like that make you think, as a parent, 2674 02:47:43,480 --> 02:47:45,600 what kind of world is coming up? 2675 02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:47,480 What's going to happen next? 2676 02:47:47,480 --> 02:47:49,880 What's the world going to be like when my kids are grown? 2677 02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:55,880 After September 11th, our immediate visceral reaction, 2678 02:47:55,880 --> 02:47:58,920 our gut reaction, resulted in Hole In The World. 2679 02:48:02,240 --> 02:48:07,240 # Don't let there be a hole in the world tomorrow... # 2680 02:48:07,240 --> 02:48:10,040 The Eagles have written and sung plenty of love songs 2681 02:48:10,040 --> 02:48:13,080 over the years, but we've also written and sung songs 2682 02:48:13,080 --> 02:48:15,720 that have to do with what's going on in the wider world. 2683 02:48:15,720 --> 02:48:18,200 We've never shied away from social commentary. 2684 02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:20,560 We think it's part of a rich tradition that dates all 2685 02:48:20,560 --> 02:48:22,360 the way back to medieval times. 2686 02:48:22,360 --> 02:48:24,360 And so we still engage in it. 2687 02:48:26,440 --> 02:48:29,480 # No more walks in the wood 2688 02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:34,080 # The trees have all been cut down 2689 02:48:36,080 --> 02:48:38,760 # And where once they stood 2690 02:48:40,400 --> 02:48:45,800 # Not even a wagon rut appears along the path... # 2691 02:48:47,400 --> 02:48:51,040 The writings and the ideas of Henry David Thoreau 2692 02:48:51,040 --> 02:48:53,920 and Ralph Waldo Emerson had a huge impact on me. 2693 02:48:53,920 --> 02:48:56,920 They got me through some very difficult times in my life, 2694 02:48:56,920 --> 02:49:00,080 one being when my father was stricken with heart disease, 2695 02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:03,920 and provided a lot of spiritual support for me. 2696 02:49:03,920 --> 02:49:07,520 When I found out in 1980 that part of Walden was going to be 2697 02:49:07,520 --> 02:49:09,280 destroyed by commercial development, 2698 02:49:09,280 --> 02:49:13,200 I decided that was something I needed to help fight. 2699 02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:16,560 So I ended up founding the Walden Woods Project. 2700 02:49:16,560 --> 02:49:19,880 And we are in our 27th year now, and we've accomplished a great deal. 2701 02:49:19,880 --> 02:49:23,680 It's been one of the most rewarding things that I've ever done. 2702 02:49:23,680 --> 02:49:27,880 # We and the trees and the way 2703 02:49:29,240 --> 02:49:32,600 # Back from the fields of play... # 2704 02:49:34,280 --> 02:49:37,200 The lyrics to that song were originally a poem 2705 02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:40,320 written by a great American poet named John Hollander. 2706 02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:43,760 # No more walks in the wood. # 2707 02:49:56,680 --> 02:50:00,000 Don had this title, Long Road Out Of Eden. 2708 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,840 Timothy goes over, and he picks up an acoustic guitar. 2709 02:50:02,840 --> 02:50:06,240 And I go over to the keyboards and Joe grabs a guitar 2710 02:50:06,240 --> 02:50:07,800 and Don goes on the drums. 2711 02:50:07,800 --> 02:50:12,000 And we start making up this sort of musical story called 2712 02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:16,520 Long Road Out Of Eden, a story of, really, the war in Iraq. 2713 02:50:17,560 --> 02:50:21,360 # Moon shining down through the palms 2714 02:50:22,480 --> 02:50:26,560 # Shadows moving on the sand... # 2715 02:50:26,560 --> 02:50:29,480 And it was, like, the last resort. 2716 02:50:29,480 --> 02:50:33,320 It was another opus, another David Lean movie. 2717 02:50:33,320 --> 02:50:40,400 # And it's a long road out of Eden. # 2718 02:50:41,840 --> 02:50:43,360 We finally got through, 2719 02:50:43,360 --> 02:50:45,800 and we finally made Long Road Out Of Eden. 2720 02:50:45,800 --> 02:50:47,760 And we didn't give it to a record company. 2721 02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:50,040 We made a deal with Walmart. 2722 02:50:50,040 --> 02:50:54,200 This was the first major artist to do a direct-to-retail release 2723 02:50:54,200 --> 02:50:56,440 and bypass the major record companies. 2724 02:50:56,440 --> 02:50:58,160 It was phenomenally successful. 2725 02:50:58,160 --> 02:50:59,840 The album entered at number one. 2726 02:50:59,840 --> 02:51:03,640 It gave, I think, the whole industry hope that it could find a new 2727 02:51:03,640 --> 02:51:05,280 and different way to reach its fans. 2728 02:51:05,280 --> 02:51:07,320 They're becoming a much greener company, 2729 02:51:07,320 --> 02:51:08,760 and that was important to me. 2730 02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:12,200 And the other good thing was that our fans got 20 songs for 12 bucks. 2731 02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:15,160 It was basically a double album, and they weren't charged double for it. 2732 02:51:18,360 --> 02:51:22,320 Don said, "I got a title for a song - Busy Being Fabulous." 2733 02:51:22,320 --> 02:51:24,640 And I thought, "What a great title." 2734 02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:28,400 # I came home to an empty house 2735 02:51:29,760 --> 02:51:32,080 # And I found your little note... # 2736 02:51:32,080 --> 02:51:34,520 And then Don wrote, "Don't wait up for me tonight, 2737 02:51:34,520 --> 02:51:36,240 "that was all she wrote." 2738 02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:38,920 # Don't wait up for me tonight 2739 02:51:38,920 --> 02:51:41,720 # And that was all she wrote... # 2740 02:51:41,720 --> 02:51:43,280 And then we were off on the story. 2741 02:51:43,280 --> 02:51:47,200 # You were just too busy being fabulous 2742 02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:52,760 # Too busy to think about us... # 2743 02:51:55,240 --> 02:51:57,960 Busy Being Fabulous, Don and Glenn had gotten it 2744 02:51:57,960 --> 02:52:00,880 to a certain state, and I came up with some stuff for the bridge 2745 02:52:00,880 --> 02:52:03,440 and tweaked what already existed. 2746 02:52:03,440 --> 02:52:06,120 I was very involved in the Long Road record. 2747 02:52:06,120 --> 02:52:09,480 I've always been a lot happier getting into the entire project, 2748 02:52:09,480 --> 02:52:13,080 arranging stuff, producing the stuff, co-writing the stuff. 2749 02:52:13,080 --> 02:52:16,360 Like, Waiting In The Weeds and Business As Usual 2750 02:52:16,360 --> 02:52:18,400 were co-writes with Don. 2751 02:52:18,400 --> 02:52:23,160 Getting Steuart Smith in the band was a real shot in the arm. 2752 02:52:23,160 --> 02:52:26,240 He's such a terrific musician. 2753 02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:33,360 It's a great solo. 2754 02:52:33,360 --> 02:52:35,800 It's like stepping into a space suit. 2755 02:52:37,160 --> 02:52:40,640 It is strange to be playing that song. 2756 02:52:40,640 --> 02:52:44,400 The reaction is terrific, and you bask in that excitement. 2757 02:52:44,400 --> 02:52:45,840 But I didn't write it. 2758 02:52:52,600 --> 02:52:55,680 I'm one part hired gun, but also one part collaborator. 2759 02:52:55,680 --> 02:52:59,360 I'm one of the guitar players. But I'm not an Eagle. 2760 02:53:00,840 --> 02:53:03,560 I don't know what it's like to be one of those guys. 2761 02:53:03,560 --> 02:53:04,920 Three, four! 2762 02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:09,440 My kids were looking on the Internet, 2763 02:53:09,440 --> 02:53:14,160 and they found this show that the Eagles had done in 1974. 2764 02:53:18,760 --> 02:53:22,560 I was in my office watching TV, and my kids come in and say, 2765 02:53:22,560 --> 02:53:24,040 "Hey, Dad, come here. 2766 02:53:24,040 --> 02:53:26,120 "You got to take a look at your hair." 2767 02:53:26,120 --> 02:53:28,040 And one of the songs was How Long. 2768 02:53:28,040 --> 02:53:31,320 # But if I never see the good old days 2769 02:53:31,320 --> 02:53:34,040 # Shining in the sun 2770 02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:38,440 # I'll be doing fine and then some 2771 02:53:41,400 --> 02:53:44,520 # Tell me how long... # 2772 02:53:44,520 --> 02:53:47,080 How Long was from my first solo album. 2773 02:53:47,080 --> 02:53:49,360 They found that cos Cindy saw it on YouTube and said, 2774 02:53:49,360 --> 02:53:50,920 "Glenn, what's this?" 2775 02:53:50,920 --> 02:53:53,400 And he said, "Oh, it's a song of JD's." 2776 02:53:53,400 --> 02:53:55,880 She said, "Well, you didn't cut it, did you?" 2777 02:53:55,880 --> 02:53:59,320 # How long, how long Rock yourself to sleep 2778 02:54:00,920 --> 02:54:03,560 GUITAR SOLO 2779 02:54:07,320 --> 02:54:11,360 JD wanted it on his solo album, so we never recorded it. 2780 02:54:11,360 --> 02:54:15,320 My wife said, "Hey, that sounds like a hit Eagles song." 2781 02:54:15,320 --> 02:54:19,360 # Everybody feels all right you know I heard some poor fool say 2782 02:54:19,360 --> 02:54:21,560 # Somebody 2783 02:54:21,560 --> 02:54:25,120 # Everyone is out there on the loose 2784 02:54:27,280 --> 02:54:33,400 # Well, I wish I lived in the land of fools, and no one knew my name 2785 02:54:34,920 --> 02:54:38,960 # But what you get is not quite what you choose 2786 02:54:41,480 --> 02:54:44,760 # Tell me, how long, how long 2787 02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:47,760 # Woman will you weep? # 2788 02:54:47,760 --> 02:54:49,440 They are the American band. 2789 02:54:49,440 --> 02:54:53,360 Yeah, they pretty much encompassed the '70s, didn't they? 2790 02:54:53,360 --> 02:54:54,920 And took it all in. 2791 02:54:54,920 --> 02:54:58,080 That's a long time to still have a musical impact, 2792 02:54:58,080 --> 02:55:02,680 and it's due to this incredibly crisp, tight, 2793 02:55:02,680 --> 02:55:07,000 extraordinarily good record-making band and the presence of good songs. 2794 02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:09,600 But it's also now taken on this other thing, too, 2795 02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:13,000 where it's everybody through the band wants to remember a 2796 02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:15,560 '70s that they may or may not have had. 2797 02:55:15,560 --> 02:55:19,400 # Good night, baby, rock yourself to sleep 2798 02:55:19,400 --> 02:55:22,880 # Sleep tight, baby, rock yourself to sleep 2799 02:55:22,880 --> 02:55:28,480 # B-B-B-Bye-bye, baby, rock yourself to slee-e-e-ep. # 2800 02:55:40,880 --> 02:55:43,920 This band could go play stadiums all over the country, 2801 02:55:43,920 --> 02:55:46,880 and people know these songs so intimately. 2802 02:55:52,680 --> 02:55:56,080 They last. The songs last. 2803 02:55:57,960 --> 02:56:00,560 I have one small plaque on my wall. 2804 02:56:00,560 --> 02:56:04,520 It says, "Presented to the Eagles to commemorate the best-selling 2805 02:56:04,520 --> 02:56:06,400 "album of the 20th century, 2806 02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:09,800 "with sales in excess of 26 million units." 2807 02:56:09,800 --> 02:56:12,960 That century's gone, so nobody's going to top that. 2808 02:56:16,280 --> 02:56:18,720 What's it like to be an Eagle now? 2809 02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:21,600 It's just part of my life. I do normal things. 2810 02:56:21,600 --> 02:56:26,280 I go to the market, and once in a while, somebody comes up to me. 2811 02:56:26,280 --> 02:56:28,480 I don't walk around being an Eagle. 2812 02:56:28,480 --> 02:56:31,440 I'm an Eagle when it's time for me to be. 2813 02:56:31,440 --> 02:56:35,240 I made sure the dishes were done before you guys came today. 2814 02:56:35,240 --> 02:56:37,120 You know? 2815 02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:55,880 # He was a hard-headed man 2816 02:56:55,880 --> 02:56:59,200 # And he was brutally handsome 2817 02:56:59,200 --> 02:57:01,680 # She was terminally pretty 2818 02:57:03,440 --> 02:57:06,800 # She held him up and he held her for ransom 2819 02:57:06,800 --> 02:57:10,480 # In the heart of the cold, cold city 2820 02:57:11,840 --> 02:57:15,560 # He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude 2821 02:57:15,560 --> 02:57:19,920 # They said he was ruthless, they said he was crude 2822 02:57:19,920 --> 02:57:23,680 # They had one thing in common, they were good in bed 2823 02:57:23,680 --> 02:57:28,600 # She'd say, "Faster, faster, the lights are turnin' red" 2824 02:57:28,600 --> 02:57:31,040 # Life in the fast lane 2825 02:57:31,040 --> 02:57:33,680 # Surely make you lose your mind 2826 02:57:33,680 --> 02:57:35,640 # Life in the fast lane... # 2827 02:57:37,040 --> 02:57:39,320 I love everybody in the band like a brother. 2828 02:57:39,320 --> 02:57:44,720 To be part of a real band - 2829 02:57:44,720 --> 02:57:46,640 a REAL band - 2830 02:57:46,640 --> 02:57:51,640 is something that not all musicians get to do in their life. 2831 02:57:53,680 --> 02:57:58,160 And I'm real lucky to have that chapter in my book. 2832 02:58:05,560 --> 02:58:09,880 Rock'n'roll saved my life. It changed my life tremendously. 2833 02:58:12,520 --> 02:58:16,280 And as Mick Jagger so famously and eloquently said, 2834 02:58:16,280 --> 02:58:19,320 "It's only rock'n'roll, but I like it." 2835 02:58:19,320 --> 02:58:21,760 I think that one of the reasons that Glenn and I 2836 02:58:21,760 --> 02:58:24,560 wanted to write songs is because rock'n'roll music got us 2837 02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:27,680 through junior high and through high school and those difficult 2838 02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:29,840 times when you're searching for your identity 2839 02:58:29,840 --> 02:58:31,680 and wondering who the heck you are, 2840 02:58:31,680 --> 02:58:34,360 trying to get girls to notice you, and wondering why 2841 02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:37,280 the football players are doing so much better than you are. 2842 02:58:38,640 --> 02:58:43,040 At the end of the day, it was and still is about the music. 2843 02:58:44,480 --> 02:58:48,960 # You know, I've always been a dreamer... # 2844 02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:52,080 I regret that I didn't handle some of the adversity 2845 02:58:52,080 --> 02:58:54,960 that the Eagles faced in the late '70s better. 2846 02:58:54,960 --> 02:58:56,440 Fortunately, for me, 2847 02:58:56,440 --> 02:59:00,320 I've had another chance to be the leader of the Eagles, another 2848 02:59:00,320 --> 02:59:05,840 chance to be Don's partner and do this work again and play this music. 2849 02:59:05,840 --> 02:59:09,920 And in this second run, I think I've done a pretty good job 2850 02:59:09,920 --> 02:59:15,960 of keeping the peace and keep the band together, keep everybody happy. 2851 02:59:15,960 --> 02:59:17,400 So here we are. 2852 02:59:18,920 --> 02:59:20,120 Still doing it. 2853 02:59:20,120 --> 02:59:25,200 # You gotta take it to the limit 2854 02:59:25,200 --> 02:59:28,920 # One more time. # 2855 02:59:31,600 --> 02:59:34,360 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 2856 02:59:37,040 --> 02:59:39,000 Thank you. 2857 02:59:44,120 --> 02:59:46,600 That's it! That's it! 2858 02:59:48,080 --> 02:59:49,600 Bye-bye. 2859 02:59:52,000 --> 02:59:53,640 'We wanted longevity. 2860 02:59:53,640 --> 02:59:56,440 'It wasn't a hobby for us. It wasn't a game. 2861 02:59:56,440 --> 03:00:00,120 'It wasn't a pleasant diversion. It was a life. 2862 03:00:00,120 --> 03:00:02,320 'It was a calling. It was a career.' 2863 03:00:02,320 --> 03:00:04,280 It was worth it. 2864 03:00:08,120 --> 03:00:10,920 We went to China last year. 2865 03:00:10,920 --> 03:00:13,840 We're still breaking new ground 40 years later. 2866 03:00:15,400 --> 03:00:17,000 Back in the late '70s, 2867 03:00:17,000 --> 03:00:19,840 Neil Young sang a song about the emerging punk ethic. 2868 03:00:19,840 --> 03:00:21,880 And the pivotal line in that song was, 2869 03:00:21,880 --> 03:00:24,440 "It's better to burn out than it is to rust." 2870 03:00:24,440 --> 03:00:26,480 And I'm not sure that even Neil himself 2871 03:00:26,480 --> 03:00:29,840 subscribed to that sentiment, but I don't see rust as a bad thing. 2872 03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:35,040 I have an old 1962 John Deere tractor that's covered with rust, 2873 03:00:35,040 --> 03:00:36,920 but it runs like a top. 2874 03:00:36,920 --> 03:00:39,600 You know, the inner workings are just fine. 2875 03:00:39,600 --> 03:00:42,920 # You better let somebody love you 2876 03:00:45,000 --> 03:00:47,400 # Let somebody love you 2877 03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:53,600 # You better let somebody love... # 2878 03:00:53,600 --> 03:00:56,560 'To me, that rust symbolises all the miles driven 2879 03:00:56,560 --> 03:01:01,000 'and all the good work done and all the experiences gained.' 2880 03:01:04,200 --> 03:01:09,200 # Before it's too-o-o-o 2881 03:01:11,000 --> 03:01:15,520 # Late. # 2882 03:01:15,520 --> 03:01:17,400 CHEERING 2883 03:01:21,840 --> 03:01:25,280 'From where I sit, the rust looks pretty good.' 2884 03:02:04,440 --> 03:02:07,600 When somebody is around 40 years, it means they've got something, 2885 03:02:07,600 --> 03:02:09,920 something that people want. And the Eagles have that. 2886 03:02:09,920 --> 03:02:12,720 To me, the Eagles really expressed a mood. 2887 03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:14,800 California was the place of dreams. 2888 03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:17,400 It was a time of limitless possibilities. 2889 03:02:17,400 --> 03:02:21,160 I think they were a defining moment in the rock'n'roll world 2890 03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:22,680 that I love. 2891 03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:26,840 You couldn't really love the Eagles music and be an Eagles fan 2892 03:02:26,840 --> 03:02:30,200 and actually know them and not aspire to greatness yourself. 2893 03:02:30,200 --> 03:02:33,600 I'm not really into legacies. People talk to me, "What's your legacy?" 2894 03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:35,520 I'm here now. 2895 03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:39,720 I'm doing what I want to do, and I'm trying to make stuff happen. 2896 03:02:39,720 --> 03:02:41,800 I see the Eagles in the same way. 2897 03:02:41,800 --> 03:02:44,280 They're not in the '70s. 2898 03:02:44,280 --> 03:02:46,480 They're in 2012 and 2013. 2899 03:02:46,480 --> 03:02:48,800 And whatever they're doing now artistically, 2900 03:02:48,800 --> 03:02:50,520 that's what's important. 2901 03:02:50,520 --> 03:02:55,440 # In the long run In the long run 2902 03:02:55,440 --> 03:03:01,560 # We can handle some resistance If our love is a strong one 2903 03:03:01,560 --> 03:03:04,360 # Is a strong one 2904 03:03:06,000 --> 03:03:09,600 # People talkin' about us They got nothin' else to do 2905 03:03:09,600 --> 03:03:14,200 # When it all comes down we will still come through 2906 03:03:14,200 --> 03:03:19,640 # In the long run Ooh, I want to tell you 2907 03:03:19,640 --> 03:03:21,680 # It's a long run 2908 03:03:24,080 --> 03:03:28,920 # You know I don't understand why you don't treat yourself better 2909 03:03:28,920 --> 03:03:32,640 # Do the crazy things that you do 2910 03:03:34,000 --> 03:03:36,480 # Cos all the debutantes... # 2911 03:03:36,480 --> 03:03:39,240 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 247972

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