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This programme contains
strong language.
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# There are stars
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# In the southern sky
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# Southward as you go-o-o
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# There is moonlight
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# And moss in the trees
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# Down the Seven Bridges Ro-o-oad
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Pretty close. Not too bad.
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It's going to be about two minutes,
so come on.
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Do what you got to do. We got to go.
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I need a wrist band.
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It's something that you
can't do for ever, you know?
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This is not a lifetime career
that we can do, you know? So...
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It's not?!
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All right, let's go.
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DISTANT CHEERING OF AUDIENCE
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AUDIENCE WHISTLE AND CHEER
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Thank you and good evening.
We're the Eagles from Los Angeles.
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LOUD CHEERING
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One, two, three, four.
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MUSIC STARTS
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# Well, I'm running down the road
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# Trying to loosen my load
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# I got seven women on my mind... #
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People are always saying
things to me like,
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"You're just like a normal person."
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And I always say, "Of course!"
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# Ooh, ooh
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# Ooh, ooh! #
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All right!
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We might be a little more
world-wise, you know,
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than some of those kids, that's all.
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We just maybe have less innocence
than they do, but, I mean,
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I eat, I sleep, I fall in love,
I fall out of love, I work.
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You know, I do pretty much
the same thing.
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# You got your demons
and you got desires
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# But I got a few of my own
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# Oooh someone to be kind to
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# In between the dark and the light
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# Oooh coming right behind you
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# Swear I'm gonna find you
one of these nights! #
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We saw a poster of us
when On the Border was made.
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Everybody looked like little kids,
you know, like, early 20s and stuff.
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And everybody didn't have
their wrinkles and baggy eyes.
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Sort of like a president
when he first takes office.
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THEY LAUGH
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And then, like four or five years
later, you know,
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he just walks out,
and his hair is grey,
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and his eyes are drooping, and he's
just really, you know, real burned.
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# Spent the last year
Rocky Mountain way
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# Couldn't get much higher! #
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The first thing that happens
is you get some kind of label,
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then you've got to live up to it,
and then you just get caught in that,
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and I forget
what the second thing is!
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THEY LAUGH
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# You know I've always
been a dreamer
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# Spend my life running round
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# And it's so hard to change
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It's hard.
It's like living two lives.
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You know, I have a family,
three kids.
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And it's just hard to live
in between that line, you know,
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of being out on the road
and being away for a month.
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# Keep on turning out
and burning out
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# And turning out the sa-a-ame
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# So put me on a highway
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# And show me a sign
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# And take it to the limit
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# One more time. #
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Maybe we wouldn't want
to do this any more,
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or maybe we can't
do this any more,
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or maybe nobody will give a shit
if we do this any more.
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# Take it to the limit
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# One more t-i-i-ime. #
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Thank you.
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APPLAUSE
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No, I insist. You first.
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Hi, there.
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Lock it up.
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A hearty bunch out there. Oh, he's
not even here. Now lock it up.
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Hey, driver, lock 'em up for us
tonight, OK?
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Out of sight. You just don't know
what those kids will do.
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Doggone.
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How about a beer?
Is that what I heard?
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You got it, brother.
Don't hurt yourself, young America.
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Would you like one?
Yeah, I would like one.
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I'm going to drink tonight.
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I think they feel like
they're up there, you know,
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like they're on the stage.
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Cos we look like them.
We dress like them.
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Part of it is that,
and part of it's the records.
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I think they just
relate to the songs.
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I think it's 50/50, I guess.
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The thing is now
is to try to see how long
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we can stay up
here at the top of the mountain.
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It's very narrow and windy up here.
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We can probably continue
doing what we're doing as long as
the songs keep coming.
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That's the only thing
that frightens us,
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is to not be able to do
that any more.
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If we go to the well and nothing
comes up, we would be in trouble.
So far, so good.
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I think we can maintain
this for a few more years.
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I don't see why not.
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Other people have. The Rolling
Stones and the Who and the Led...
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and Led Zeppelin. I almost said
THE Led Zeppelin! ..Have done it.
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Chicago's done it.
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Groups last longer than they used
to, you know?
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Shit don't float.
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90% of the time, being in the Eagles
was a fucking blast.
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You know, I was living the dream.
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# He was a hard-headed man
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# He was brutally handsome... #
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We never in our wildest dreams
figured on being this successful
and lasting this long.
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# She held him up... #
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We were a bunch of guys out there
touring the country.
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We had a little private plane.
We had parties after the shows.
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We had a good time.
We were starting to make some money.
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# They took all the right pills
They threw outrageous parties... #
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We had three guitar players finally,
you know, so we could rock a bit.
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So, it was a good time, a good
time for me, a good time for Don.
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# Life in the fast lane
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# Surely make you lose your mind... #
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Everybody was really happy...
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..then!
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# Life in the fast lane
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# Everything, all the time
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# Life in the fast lane... #
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It was going really fast,
and probably too fast.
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There was turmoil within the band.
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We put a lot of pressure
on ourselves.
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As Glenn used to say,
"We made it, and it ate us."
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It's hard to be in a group.
It's a bit like being in a marriage,
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if you quadruple it or quintuple it,
in our case.
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They asked Don when the Eagles broke
up, "What was that like for you?"
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And he said it was
a horrible relief.
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And I think that clocks it
pretty well.
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You're a real pro, Don, all the way.
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Yeah, you are, too.
The way you handle people.
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Except the people you pay,
nobody gives a shit about it.
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Fuck you. I've been paying
you for seven years, you fuckhead.
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So much stuff just happened.
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You know, there's a philosopher
who says, "As you live your life...
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"..it appears to be...
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"anarchy and chaos
and random events,
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"non-related events
smashing into each other
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"and causing this situation."
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And then... then this happens,
and it's overwhelming,
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and it just looks like,
"What in the world is going on?"
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And later,
when you look back at it...
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..it looks like
a finely-crafted novel.
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But at the time, it don't!
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And a lot of the Eagles'
story is like that.
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I'm going to fuckin' kill you.
I can't wait. I can't wait.
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We might as well
start at the beginning.
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I grew up in Detroit, Michigan.
My dad worked in a factory.
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My mother baked pies
at General Motors.
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I started taking piano lessons
when I was five years old.
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That alone could get you beat up
after school in suburban Detroit.
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# And then she said...
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# Just because you've become
a young man now
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# There's still some things
that you don't understand... #
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Detroit was Motown, and so
they played all the Motown hits.
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# Keep your freedom
for as long as you can now
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# My momma told me,
you'd better shop around.... #
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And that was the kind of stuff
that we would listen to.
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I stopped playing piano
when I was 12. It was too much.
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I wanted to do other things,
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and I think the girl thing
was starting to happen, as well.
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THEY SCREAM
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Then the Beatles came along,
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and my aunt took me down to see
the Beatles at the Olympia.
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THEY SCREAM
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It was crazy.
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I remember having a girl that was
standing on her seat in front of me
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fall backwards into my arms,
delirious, going, "Paul, Paul!"
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You know, and I thought,
"Oh, my God!"
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I have a very vivid memory
of seeing the Beatles
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with my parents on
our old Admiral TV set.
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It was like a bolt of lightning.
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It had a huge impact on me.
It was revolutionary.
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And it was an impact
that would last a lifetime,
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and I know that had
a huge impact on Glenn, too,
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even though we didn't know
each other at the time.
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Linden, Texas, is my hometown. It's
a small town in North-eastern Texas.
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When I was growing up, the
population was about 2,500, 2,600.
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# I can settle down... #
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It's primarily an agricultural area.
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Some people
worked at the steel mill.
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It's just a typical
small Texas town.
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There's an old courthouse
dating back to before the Civil War
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and one stoplight.
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It's kind of like
The Last Picture Show, you know?
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It was a great place musically,
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because it was kind of a cultural
crossroads.
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It's really located where the
old South begins to meet the West.
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Linden, Texas, was the birthplace
of Scott Joplin and T-Bone Walker.
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# Yes, time is hard, baby... #
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Both my parents loved music, so we
had a lot of records in the house.
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I was exposed to music
of all kinds from an early age.
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You know, Country and Western music,
Western swing music, gospel music,
Blues...
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Johnny Cash, Hank Williams,
and Patsy Cline.
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# More, more, more
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# Gonna live it up and tear it down
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# Get in the groove
and paint the town
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# Got a lot of rhythm in my soul... #
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There was a 50,000-watt
radio station in New Orleans,
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and I heard things on that station
that I didn't hear anywhere else.
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So, I had a lot of radio coming in.
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And when I would go
to work with my dad,
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he would listen to a station
in Shreveport, Louisiana. KWKH.
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# Say, hey, good lookin'!
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# What you got cookin'?
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# How's about cooking
something up for me? #
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And that station broadcast a radio
show called the Louisiana Hayride,
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where Elvis Presley made his first
radio broadcast in 1954.
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# Well, that's all right, Mama
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# That's all right with you
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# That's all right, Mama
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# Just anyway you do
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# That's all right
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# That's all right... #
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The very first rock'n'roll record
I bought was by Elvis Presley.
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# Anyway you do... #
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My playing the drums
was sort of an organic process.
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I began by beating on my school
books with my fingers
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and with pencils.
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I would beat out little cadences,
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and I used to drive my classmates
crazy doing that, until, I think,
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one day, somebody said to me -
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I think it was my friend
Richard Bowden - he said,
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"Why don't you just start
playing the drums?"
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I managed to cobble together
a drum kit from old drums
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that I found stashed in the back
of the band hall at high school.
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And then one day, my mom said,
"Come on, get in the car."
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And she drove me to a town
about an hour and a half away
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called Sulphur Springs, Texas,
to McKay Music Company.
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Much to my surprise,
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she bought me a set
of red-sparkle Slingerland drums
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that I still have today.
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So, I have to give my parents
a lot of credit.
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They bought me that drum kit
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even though they couldn't
really afford it.
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The first band I was in
was a band with my high-school buddy
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Richard Bowden and another
high-school friend, Jerry Surratt,
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and we played Dixieland jazz music.
Nobody sang. We just played music.
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MUSICAL INTRO TO SATISFACTION
BY THE ROLLING STONES
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I went to a high-school party,
and there were four kids
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who were freshmen in high school
who were playing.
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I was a junior, and I had a couple
beers that night and said,
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"Hey, you know, do you know
Satisfaction? Cos I can sing it."
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So, I became the lead singer
of the Subterraneans.
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# And I try and I try
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# And I try... #
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I played in the Subterraneans
for a while,
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and then I played in another band
called the Mushrooms.
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The most important thing
that happened to me
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when I was in Detroit
was I met Bob Seger.
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# Ye-e-e-ah
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# I'm gonna tell my tale, come on! #
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He took me under his wing.
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He invited me to recording sessions
that he was having, you know,
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so I could see how records
were made.
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I was his mentor.
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He was just so young,
and I liked him right away
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because he was so funny.
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He had a great sense of humour,
and, like me,
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I could see he was really ambitious.
He really wanted to be on the radio.
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He cut a song called
Ramblin' Gamblin' Man.
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He let me play acoustic
guitar on the basic track
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and sing background vocals.
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# Ramblin' ma-a-an
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# A gamblin' man... #
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You can really hear Glenn blurt out
on the first chorus.
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He comes out really loud.
Tremendous gusto.
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Of course, that was a national
hit for us, so that was really cool.
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Bob was the first guy that wrote
his own songs and recorded them
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that I had ever met. He said,
"You know, if you want to make it,
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"you're going to have to
write your own songs."
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And I said, "Well, what if they're
bad?" he said, "Well, they're going
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"to be bad." He says, "You just keep
writing and keep writing,
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"and eventually,
you'll write a good song."
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We were going to have
a band together.
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He was going to get
rid of his other guys,
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and I was going to
be his bass player.
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It didn't work out.
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My mom found me
smoking pot with a friend of mine
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in somebody's basement,
and she called up Seger's manager,
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Punch Andrews, and said,
"Just a minute, not so fast."
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In the years leading up
to the Great Depression,
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my dad had to quit school
after the eighth grade.
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He had to go home and work in the
fields with his brother and sister
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to help support the family.
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His fondest wish,
in fact, his life's goal,
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was that I would go to college.
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Every Saturday night,
he would bring home seven quarters,
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and we'd put them in a piggy bank,
and when those quarters
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amounted to $100,
he would take me to the bank
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and we would buy a savings bond,
a United States savings bond,
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and put that away
for my college education.
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So, between what my dad had saved
and between what I was making
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doing gigs all over Texas
and Arkansas and Louisiana
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on weekends, I paid for
three and a half years of college.
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They have a world-famous music
department in which I did not excel.
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I took one music course.
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I think it was beginning theory,
and I flunked.
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I made an F.
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But I didn't really care
because I was an English major.
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Well, after the Mushrooms,
I got invited to join this band
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called the Four of Us.
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Started getting into some
of the California bands -
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the Byrds, Buffalo Springfield,
the Beach Boys.
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Always wanted to go to California.
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And I got out there,
my mind was blown.
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The vegetation -
I'd never seen palm trees.
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You know, it was
just like a dream come true.
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# So you want to be
a rock'n'roll star?
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# Then listen now to what I say
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# Just get an electric guitar...
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The first celebrity
I saw was David Crosby.
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# And when your hair's combed right
and your pants fit tight
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# It's gonna be all right...
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And he had on that flat-brimmed
hat that he wore
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on the second Byrds album,
and he had a little leather cape on,
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and I just looked and I thought,
"My God, there's David Crosby."
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Zoom, and we went right by.
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# And in a week or two
if you make the charts
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# The girls'll tear you apart... #
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And the first person
I met was John David Souther.
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We wanted to get high
and play music.
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There were two of us with guitars.
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We were listening to a lot of that
sort of interface between
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rock'n'roll and
country and western music that was
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happening in Southern California
at the time with the Byrds
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and Dillard & Clark
and the Burrito Brothers and Poco.
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# When I last saw you
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# I couldn't find a reason why
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# I felt kind of blue...#
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There was a lot of great music
of that sort going around then.
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Longbranch Pennywhistle here.
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I suppose you wonder what that name
meant, and John David and I -
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It was a well-kept spring back
funky women.
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The songs weren't very good.
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I don't think Glenn and I were very
far along as songwriters then.
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# Run, boy, run
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# You gotta move... #
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We were a funny little group,
but we got gigs.
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We, you know, managed to play in
some of the folk clubs around LA -
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the Golden Bear and the Ash Grove.
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# Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah
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# What condition
my condition was in...
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We had a chance meeting with Kenny
Rogers in Dallas, Texas, one day.
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He was coming through town with
the First Edition.
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They were very hot at the time.
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# I tripped on a cloud
and fell-a eight miles high... #
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I remember this like it was
yesterday.
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This little kid came up and said,
"Mr Rogers," he said,
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"I'm Don Henley, and I'm with a
group called Felicity,
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"and we're doing a show tonight, and
we'd love to have you come see us."
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And I said, "You know, I'm really
sorry, but I don't do that.
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"I don't just go to clubs
and watch groups."
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He said,
"I really think you'd like us."
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And I thought, "Well,
that's pretty cool," so I did.
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# From the minute
that I met you, baby
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# You were hanging your chains on me
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# And I loved you so
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# I nearly lost my mind... #
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Kenny is a Texas boy, and he was
looking for groups to produce.
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So, I brought them to LA,
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and they literally lived at my house
for about four months.
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We changed their name to Shiloh.
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It was so much fun to take them
into the studio.
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# Well, thank you
Mr Big Time Music Business Man
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# For taking time
to listen to my song...#
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With Shiloh, we made one album,
and it had a single called
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Simple Little Down Home Rock And
Roll Love Song For Rosie.
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Not exactly a short title!
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# Just a simple little down home
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# Rock'n'roll love song
for Rosie... #
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We didn't know much
about the business at that point.
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We were pretty naive.
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# Going down to the swamp river
country some day... #
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We kicked around in the LA clubs
for a while,
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played the Whisky, played some of the
clubs down in the South Bay area,
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and nothing really happened for us.
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JD and I were looking for any
place to play.
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We had heard about this guy
Jackson Browne.
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He'd been playing the same
clubs we had,
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but we never had seen him perform.
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This is California. Mr Jackson
Browne. Ah, thank you, thank you.
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'Then there were a bunch of gigs that
they had and some gigs that I had'
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that they would show up at my gigs
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and me at their gigs,
and we became really good friends.
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And we'd start talking about, "Where
do you live, and what's going on?"
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And Jackson said, "You know,
you should come down to Echo Park.
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"Rent's real cheap."
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Glenn got the apartment next
to my apartment,
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and this apartment cost like $125 or
something a month, you know.
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And I needed to economize,
so I moved into the basement
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underneath Glenn's place, which
I could get into for $35 a month.
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It only had one door. It was really
just kind of an illegal place,
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just a cubby-hole, and that's where
Jackson lived,
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with JD and I above.
You know, that was it.
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There was a stereo, a piano, a bed,
a guitar, you know, a teapot.
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KETTLE WHISTLES
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We slept late in those days, except
around nine o'clock in the morning,
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I'd hear Jackson Browne's teapot
going off,
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this whistle in the distance.
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And then I'd hear him playing piano.
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I didn't really know how to
write songs.
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I knew I wanted to write songs,
but I didn't know exactly -
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you just wait around for
inspiration, what was the deal?
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Well, I learned through
Jackson's ceiling
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and my floor exactly how to write
songs cos Jackson would get up,
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and he'd play the first
verse and first chorus,
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and he'd play it 20 times until
he had it just the way he wanted.
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And then there'd be silence.
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And then I'd hear
the teapot go off again.
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Then it'd be
quiet for ten or 20 minutes.
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Then I'd hear him
start to play again,
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and there was the second verse.
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So, then he'd work on the second
verse, and he'd play it 20 times.
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And then he'd go back to the
top of the song,
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and he'd play the first verse, the
first chorus and the second verse
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another 20 times until he was really
comfortable with it and,
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you know, change a word here or
there, and I'm up there going,
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"So, that's how you do it" -
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elbow grease, you know, time,
thought, persistence.
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# Doctor, my eyes
have seen the years
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# And the slow parade of fears
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# Without crying...
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I wanted to kill him sometimes.
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Jackson would play the same phrase
from Doctor, My Eyes for six weeks.
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The same thing with The Pretender.
I just wanted to murder him.
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# Doctor, my eyes... #
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And it was during that
period of time that I met Glenn Frey
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because we were on the same label,
called Amos Records.
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Some of the things that struck me
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when I first met Glenn were things
we had in common.
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Both of our dads made
a living in the automotive industry.
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Glenn and I loved old cars,
especially cars from the '50s.
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He had a '55 Chevy that he
named Gladys.
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And we drove
around Los Angeles in Gladys.
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RADIO: Check out the new talent.
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There's no better place in town to
catch those new singers
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and songwriters than down at the
Monday night Hoot Night,
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Doug Weston's world-famous
Troubadour, happening tonight.
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'The Troubadour club was
the centre of the musical universe.
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It was a very seminal place.
It was the place to see and be seen.
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Every Monday night
they had an open stage.
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It was called Hoot Night.
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The Troubadour was the place to go
if you were young
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and happening and trying to get
involved in the music scene.
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It was happening there.
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# California
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# Oh, California
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# I'm coming home
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# Oh, make me
feel good Rock'n'roll band
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# I'm your biggest fan
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# California, I'm coming home. #
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I saw a lot of great
acts at the Troubadour.
459
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,760
# So far away
460
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:09,960
# Doesn't anybody
stay in one place any more?
461
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,760
# It would be so fine
to see your face... #
462
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,080
I witnessed Elton John's American
debut performance in 1970.
463
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,520
# And it's good old country
comfort in my bones
464
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,000
# Just the sweetest sound
my ears have ever known... #
465
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,680
Everybody who was anybody at
the time played at the Troubadour.
466
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,120
Of course, Linda,
467
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:41,760
she still has one of my favourite
voices in the business, ever.
468
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,000
# Feeling better now we're through
469
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,960
# Feeling better
cos I'm over you...#
470
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320
The Troubadour is really responsible
for the entire music scene.
471
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,640
I mean, everything I got, really,
was virtually through either
472
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,240
performing there onstage
or in the bar, you know?
473
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,680
# I'm telling you now, baby
474
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,920
# And I'm going my way... #
475
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,200
I was just started
managing Linda then,
476
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,840
and Linda was going to be a star -
that voice as big as a house.
477
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,680
There wasn't anybody in the room
478
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,680
that cared about anything
but that voice.
479
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,360
# I'm gonna say it again... #
480
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,200
One night,
we're down at the Troubadour,
481
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840
and John Boylan comes to me -
he's managing Linda Ronstadt -
482
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,840
and he says,
"I'm taking Linda on the road.
483
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,680
"We need guys who can sing. You want
to play rhythm guitar and sing?"
484
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,640
I offered him $250 a week,
and he took it.
485
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,120
I went back to him, I said,
486
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,960
"Can you give me
some of that money right now?"
487
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,840
I think he gave me 50 bucks.
488
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,000
And then I found Don from this
band called Shiloh.
489
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,880
I heard him
playing at the Troubadour.
490
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,280
# I'm coming down... #
491
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,160
I was looking for a job.
Glenn introduced me to John Boylan.
492
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520
I auditioned at this little
house in Laurel Canyon.
493
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,160
I had listened to her album
hundreds of times,
494
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,680
so I knew the songs backwards
and forwards,
495
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,880
and I guess I passed the audition,
because I got the job.
496
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,440
# I got a feeling called the blues
Oh, Lord
497
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,440
# Since my baby said goodbye
498
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,480
# And I don't know what I'll do
499
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,360
# All I do is sit and cry
Oh, Lord
500
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,840
# I've grown so used to him somehow
501
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,600
# But I'm nobody's sugar momma now
502
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040
# And I'm lonesome
503
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,160
# Got the lovesick blues. #
504
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,480
I learned a lot from Linda.
505
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,560
It was a very formative
experience for me.
506
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040
And she could hang with the guys,
you know.
507
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,520
She could drink tequila with
the rest of us and hold her own.
508
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:52,720
# Saving nickels, saving dimes... #
509
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,120
It was really very ad hoc.
510
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,760
We had a station wagon,
put the gear in the back.
511
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,640
We'd all get in it and drive to
the college and play there.
512
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640
As a cost-cutting measure,
band members had to share
513
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,640
rooms in those days,
so Glenn and I were roommates.
514
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,480
What did you guys eat?
I had a bowl of Rice Krispies.
515
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840
'Ladies and gentlemen,
Linda Ronstadt.'
516
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720
It's funny. I seem to get people at a
critical stage in their development
517
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,040
and they build their chops.
518
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,840
I mean, there's nothing that
gets your chops up better than
playing every single night.
519
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,000
# If the same thing happened
to everybody
520
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,760
# That just happened to me... #
521
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,520
Linda and John Boylan really
like the way Henley and I play,
522
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,440
really like the way we sing with
her, and they start to get
523
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,280
a vision of putting together a super
group to back up Linda -
524
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,640
the best of the new country-rock
musicians,
525
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080
and we were going to be
part of it.
526
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
I remember talking with Don,
and Don said,
527
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,520
"Well, you know, I'd rather,
like, just be in a band with you."
528
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,520
And I said, "Well, yeah, me too.
529
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,840
"You know, I'd rather just
be in a band with you."
530
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,320
So, we went to Linda and said,
"You know,
531
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,240
"we really appreciate everything
you've done for us,
532
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,600
"and it means a lot, and we love
playing with you,
533
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,760
"but we'd like to have
our own band."
534
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:24,840
# If you won't be
with me someday... #
535
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Now, you know, I think
a lot of people, you know,
536
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,520
could get miffed by that, say,
"Well, wait a second.
537
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,120
"I brought you out here, you know.
538
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,840
"I gave you a paying job
when you couldn't afford
539
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,840
"your own drinks at the Troubadour
bar, and now you want to quit?"
540
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,400
# Smile... #
541
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Linda was extremely gracious about
the whole thing, as was John Boylan.
542
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,520
They weren't resentful or
bitter at all. They were great.
543
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080
They were supportive,
as a matter of fact.
544
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,280
# There you go and baby
545
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,720
# Here am I
546
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,920
# Well, you left me here
547
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:04,120
# So I could sit and cry... #
548
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,040
They started talking about putting
a band together,
549
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,880
and we told them
they should get Bernie Leadon.
550
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,200
I was in several bands in LA.
Early on, I met Linda.
551
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Then I worked with
Dillard & Clark -
552
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,240
Doug Dillard, banjo player,
and Gene Clark from the Byrds.
553
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,520
And so, now I'm in an offshoot
of the Byrds world,
554
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,280
and then that turned into an
invitation from the Burrito Brothers
555
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,480
from Chris Hillman to come join them
for their second album on A&M.
556
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,120
# Since we got the older
guys to show us how
557
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,680
# I don't see why
we can't stop right now... #
558
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920
And I was still in the Burritos,
but they had lost Gram Parsons,
559
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,400
and it had changed, and I wasn't
that interested any more.
560
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600
Bernie was a very
accomplished banjo player,
561
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,120
and he could also play guitar in
what we called the Bindi lick style.
562
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,320
It was pioneered by a fellow
named Clarence White.
563
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,000
And then Glenn told me about this
guy named Randy Meisner who
564
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880
had been in a band called Poco.
565
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,960
Randy could sing really high,
and he also played bass.
566
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,760
# It's a good morning and I'm
feeling fine... #
567
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,800
So, Glenn just kind of asked me
one day
568
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800
if I'd be interested in starting
a group with him.
569
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,480
And he had Henley and Bernie.
That was the first Eagles.
570
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,440
So, the plan was that Glenn
and I would try to recruit Bernie
571
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,680
and Randy, and then we would all go
to David Geffen and see
572
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,600
if he would give us
a recording contract.
573
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,080
In the '70s, Asylum Records was
considered the LA sound -
574
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,160
Joni Mitchell,
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young,
575
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Jackson Browne.
576
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,560
David Geffen, who started Asylum,
is our patron, you know.
577
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,520
A Medici, Medici of rock'n'roll.
578
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,160
It's a very artist-oriented company,
and whatever they want to do,
we support them.
579
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
If we believe in them,
we'll stick with them,
580
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,960
whether they make it or not.
581
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480
Jackson was our conduit to
David Geffen.
582
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,840
He was the first guy to get signed
583
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,280
by Geffen's new
Asylum Records label.
584
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280
So, we all walk in Geffen's office,
and we basically said,
585
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,600
"Here we are."
586
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,960
Bernie Leadon just boldly
says to Geffen,
587
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480
"Well, do you want us or not?"
588
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,800
They were dying to sign with me.
589
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360
I think they were very ambitious,
particularly Glenn.
590
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,200
Glenn wanted to have a hit band.
591
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,120
I loved the way Don sang.
592
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880
You know, we all had hopes for it.
593
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,640
All of a sudden, we were signed to
Geffen's new label.
594
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,280
They sent us
back to the drawing board.
595
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,680
They said, "You guys need to go
and rehearse some more."
596
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,400
They said, "You know, you need to
write some songs. You're not really
ready to record yet."
597
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,040
So, they packed us
off to Aspen, Colorado.
598
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,280
It could have been worse.
599
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,960
There were people who were way
higher than any of us had ever been.
600
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,840
It was a Wild West wide-open
town at that point.
601
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,560
MUSIC: "Tryin' " by the Eagles
602
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,160
We played at a club up there
called The Gallery,
603
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560
which was located
right at the foot of Aspen Mountain.
604
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,160
# Tryin'
605
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800
# Got to keep on tryin'
606
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,160
# Tryin'... #
607
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,600
We didn't have a big catalogue
of our own tunes at that point.
608
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,280
We were just getting started.
609
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,920
We needed to learn how to play
together as a band, and we did.
610
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,120
# The moon is a weeper
611
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,520
# The sun is your clown
612
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,480
# And his way of lovin'
613
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,760
# Is holdin' you down... #
614
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,360
And then it was like,
"OK, we need to make a record.
615
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,240
"Who are we going to get
to produce it?"
616
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,360
We wanted to
shoot as high as we could.
617
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,920
Glenn Frey came up with
Glyn Johns as an idea.
618
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,160
Glyn Johns was a name that kept
popping up on records we loved.
619
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:52,520
The first time I heard them
was in Aspen.
620
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120
I was not at all impressed, really.
621
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,960
THEY PLAY GUITAR DUET
622
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,360
I thought they were confused.
623
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Glenn Frey wanted to
be in a rock'n'roll band,
624
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,200
and Bernie Leadon, on the other
side, was one of the greatest
625
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,760
acoustic players, country players,
if you like.
626
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,440
And there was a bit of a confusion.
627
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,600
I didn't see what all the fuss
was about at all.
628
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,360
So I passed.
629
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,760
We're like, "God dang, what?"
You know, it's not what we expected.
630
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,360
He had worked with Led Zeppelin,
the Who, the Stones,
631
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,320
so he was coming from that, and he
said flat-out,
632
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,360
"You're not that, man."
633
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,800
It isn't always easy to spot what's
hot about an artist
634
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520
if you go and see them play.
You can see them on a bad night.
635
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,360
You know, it's not necessarily
the fairest way of doing it.
636
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,040
So, I thought, "Well, the best thing
to do would be for me to see them
637
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,440
"in a rehearsal situation
where we could converse
638
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040
"and they could play new stuff
and I could stop and start."
639
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,800
And they played the stuff that they
played in Aspen,
640
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960
and it all sounded pretty
much the same.
641
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,200
Well, I was thinking, "I don't
get it. I still don't get it."
642
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,360
So, we decided to take a break
for lunch
643
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,360
and as we were leaving,
644
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,720
somebody said, "Oh,
why don't we play Glyn that ballad?"
645
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:21,880
# My daddy was a handsome devil
646
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,040
# He had a chain five miles long... #
647
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,120
And it just completely blew me
off my feet.
648
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,400
I mean, there it was.
That was the sound.
649
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:38,440
# From every link a heart did dangle
650
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,120
# For every maid... #
651
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,800
Extraordinary blend of voices,
wonderful harmony sound.
652
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,200
Just stunning.
653
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,400
And that was it.
I was in with both feet.
654
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:56,720
# Now I have loved you
like a baby... #
655
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:57,920
Except that Glyn Johns
656
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,440
didn't want to come to
the United States and work.
657
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360
He wanted to work in London
in the recording studios
658
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,760
that he was familiar with, and
so they shipped us off to England.
659
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440
I don't think that any of us
except Bernie had ever been out
660
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,520
of the country, so it was a little
bit like going to the moon for us.
661
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,960
# I'm hanging on to my peace of mind
662
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,240
# I just don't know
663
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,320
# I'm hanging on to
those good times... #
664
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,040
And I'm stoked.
You know, I'm thinking,
665
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,120
"I'm going to go to Beatle
country with Glyn Johns.
666
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840
"I'm going to record in the same
studio
667
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,640
"where Led Zeppelin did
Rock And Roll.
668
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,960
"Oh, my God, I can't wait."
669
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,520
We were recorded at the famous
Olympic studios,
670
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,400
where a lot of legendary
records had been made.
671
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Glyn Johns, he had a certain style
of recording,
672
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,320
which was very organic.
673
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,360
He would simply place a few mics
around the room, and off you go.
674
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,320
You know, rather than, for example,
placing a microphone on each
675
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,320
and every drum, he would just put
three microphones on the drum kit.
676
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,280
He was accustomed
to recording people
677
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,080
like John Bonham with Led Zeppelin.
678
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520
And I said to Glyn, "I want
the bass drum to be louder."
679
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,160
And he said, "If you want it louder,
hit it harder," you know?
680
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,520
And I hit it as hard as I could,
681
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,560
but I couldn't hit
it as hard as John Bonham.
682
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,000
He had a bunch of rules that
really didn't suit me
683
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,600
and some of the other guys, too.
684
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,600
You know, no getting high in the
studio, no drinking in the studio.
685
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,280
I agreed wholeheartedly
with Glyn Johns
686
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680
regarding drugs
and alcohol in the studio -
687
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,760
that we'd get more work done
and that it would be better work.
688
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680
When I got the opportunity to
produce and therefore
689
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,800
be in the chair, I decided that
I would no longer put up with that.
690
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Somebody said to me
the other night that
691
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,560
I was the designated driver
in the '60s and early '70s.
692
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Glyn had worked with the Rolling
Stones at a time when they went
693
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,520
to the studio and did nothing except
wait for Keith, you know, to go down
694
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,160
in the basement and play his guitar
until he came up with some riff.
695
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,320
So, Glyn was impatient.
696
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,320
The Stones had burned him
out on the, you know,
697
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,240
"get high in the studio and wait for
something to happen" kind of thing.
698
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,600
'Let's go. We're rolling.'
699
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,120
'One, two, three.'
700
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,160
MUSIC: "Peaceful Easy Feeling"
by the Eagles
701
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:32,840
# I like the way
your sparkling earrings lay
702
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,400
# Against your skin so brown
703
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,680
# And I wanna sleep with you
704
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,320
# In the desert tonight... #
705
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,800
There were three hit
singles on the first album.
706
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Peaceful Easy Feeling
was written by Jack Tempchin,
707
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,680
who is our friend
and frequent collaborator.
708
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,920
# Cos I got
a peaceful easy feeling... #
709
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,760
Peaceful Easy Feeling captures
the time, captures this attitude.
710
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560
You can feel the wind
blowing across the desert.
711
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,000
# Oh-ohh
712
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,920
# What a feeling
713
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,920
# Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ohh. #
714
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,720
MUSIC: "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles
715
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840
The second hit was Witchy Woman,
which I wrote with Bernie.
716
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Witchy Woman
started as a guitar figure.
717
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,800
Then we were jamming it one day,
and everybody was digging it.
718
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,480
And then Henley came back the next
day with the lyrics.
719
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,560
# Raven hair and ruby lips
720
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,680
# Sparks fly from her finger tips
721
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,800
# Echoed voices in the night
722
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,760
# She's a restless spirit
on an endless flight
723
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:03,920
# Woo hoo, witchy woman
724
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,400
# See how high she flies
725
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,920
# Woo hoo, witchy woman
726
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,600
# She got the moon in her eye... #
727
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,520
During the time that the Eagles were
on the road for the first album,
728
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,520
we had just come through the '60s -
civil rights movement,
729
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,240
'68 - all the assassinations,
all the rioting.
730
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,680
The Vietnam War still winding up.
Nixon, Watergate.
731
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,880
I welcome this kind of examination.
732
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680
I really think that
part of the reason that the Eagles
733
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,760
succeeded the way they did was
because the country
734
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,960
and people and young people needed
to feel like things were OK.
735
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,840
So, here comes this song
Take It Easy.
736
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,840
MUSIC: "Take It Easy" by the Eagles
737
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,040
# Well, I'm a runnin' down the road
738
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,800
# Trying to loosen my load
739
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,760
# I've got seven women on my mind
740
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120
# Four that want to own me
741
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,000
# Two that want to stone me
742
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,440
# One says she's a friend of mine
743
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,480
# Take it easy
744
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,160
# Take it easy
745
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:24,960
# Don't let the sound of your
own wheels drive you crazy
746
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,480
# Lighten up while you still can
747
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,720
# Don't even try to understand
748
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:35,120
# Just find a place
to play your hand
749
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,640
# Take it easy... #
750
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,720
Jackson had this song called
Take It Easy.
751
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,880
He couldn't finish the song.
He was stuck in the second verse.
752
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,360
He had, "I'm standing on a corner
in Winslow, Arizona."
753
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,920
And so, I filled in,
"Such a fine sight to see
754
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,040
"It's a girl, my Lord
In a flatbed Ford
755
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,680
"Slowing down to take a look at me."
756
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,040
# Well, I'm a standin' on a corner
in Winslow, Arizona
757
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,680
# Such a fine sight to see
758
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,720
# It's a girl, my Lord
in a flat-bed Ford
759
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,280
# Slowin' down
to take a look at me... #
760
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Girl, Lord, Ford - I mean,
all the redemption, you know -
761
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,640
girls and cars
and redemption all in this one line.
762
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,280
I mean, he's very mercurical.
You know...mercurial? Mercurial.
763
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,800
And he's mercurical, too.
764
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,760
# We may lose and we may win
765
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,320
# But we will never be here again
766
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,400
# So open up
I'm climbin' in
767
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,600
# So take it easy... #
768
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,800
All right!
769
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,880
Someone once asked
Stephen Stills about the Eagles,
770
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,840
and his response was,
"They just wanted to be us."
771
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,040
But when it came time to
do our album covers,
772
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,440
they suggested that we use
Gary Burden and Henry Diltz.
773
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,600
They had done the first
Crosby, Stills, Nash cover
774
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,880
and some stuff for Joni.
775
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,480
The one I really remember was
776
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
The Mamas & The Papas
all sitting in the bathtub.
777
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,640
That was one of their album covers.
778
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,360
So, these were, like, the cool guys
to have work on your album.
779
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Gary Burden is about 40 years old,
full beard, long, greyish,
780
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,400
wavy hair, crystal-blue eyes.
781
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,680
Henry was a sort of magical,
noninvasive photographer guy.
782
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,280
For the Eagles,
783
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,280
it was the peyote spirits which
the American Indians, of course,
784
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,520
ate peyote and had a very, very
spiritual experience,
785
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,640
and they would maybe meet their
animal totem
786
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,040
or they would get their
quest for life.
787
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,560
My deal was always to take the bands
out of their comfort zone.
788
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,280
Take them away from their
girlfriends, from telephones,
789
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,840
from anything,
and have them under my control
790
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,240
so that I could get things to happen
without any interference.
791
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,400
And so, we would take trips.
792
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,200
Now, how this plan
came about exactly,
793
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,040
today you have to scratch your head,
but this was the plan.
794
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,320
OK, we'll all go to
the Troubadour,
795
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,240
and we'll stay there till
closing time.
796
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,640
And then we'll drive to Joshua Tree.
797
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680
# This morning
I don't know... #
798
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,680
We had a bag of peyote buttons,
a bunch of trail mix,
799
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,880
some tequila, and some water,
and some blankets.
800
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,640
And the seven of us
set out for Joshua Tree.
801
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,840
We got there probably about 4.30 in
the morning, parked in this
802
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,000
special place that I don't
know how we found it in the dark.
803
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,120
We all took one peyote button,
put it in our mouths,
804
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,000
and started hiking up to the
place that we were supposed to go.
805
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,040
So, right around the time that
we're getting to the campsite
806
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,800
and we're starting to build the fire
807
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,800
and starting to cook some
peyote tea, and the first buttons -
808
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,400
everybody's chewing
the first button
809
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,800
and the drug starts
coming on just as the sun is rising.
810
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,680
MUSIC: "Earlybird" by the Eagles
811
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,600
I think everybody got higher than
they ever imagined
812
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,240
anybody could be,
and it was a good thing.
813
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,800
We were after getting
into life deeper
814
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,040
and better and more
and surrendering.
815
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,280
I had to go to the bathroom,
so I left the campsite,
816
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,120
and I hear the guys yelling from
the campfire, "Eagle! Eagle!"
817
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,840
I look up, and it's soaring
right above me. Huge wingspan.
818
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,200
I'm, like, scuffling to get my pants
back up, and I'm slipping.
819
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,360
I fall down, and the bird just
kind of goes,
820
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,080
"Eagles, huh?
Yeah, I don't think so."
821
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,080
The images of the first
album cover, I think,
822
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,160
really set the tone for visually
what Eagles are.
823
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Gary designed the album cover
so that it would open up into a
824
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,560
whole poster, and at the bottom were
the Eagles around the campfire.
825
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,520
And then, up at the top, it would
go on up into the sky
826
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,760
and the eagle up in the sky.
827
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,600
But David Geffen thought
that would be confusing,
828
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,400
and without consulting us
or consulting Gary or the Eagles
829
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,880
or anybody, he told them,
"Just glue it shut."
830
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,320
And so, then, when they glued it
shut, you would get this -
831
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,760
this album, front and back,
and you'd open it up,
832
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,440
and it would be upside-down, which
didn't make any sense to anybody.
833
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,200
The fact was that the success of
the first album scared the
hell out of us.
834
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Why me instead of some
guy down the street, you know?
835
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,960
Why me and some friends of mine
who are just as good of musicians
836
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,840
as I am, you know, but it happened
to me and it didn't happen to them?
837
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,160
I don't know.
838
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Success can sometimes be
just as disconcerting
839
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,200
and frightening as failure,
especially
840
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,560
when you have questions about your
own worthiness and your abilities.
841
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,800
It came time to do another album.
842
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,440
Don and I decided we'd try to write
some songs together.
843
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,120
I had been sitting
over on Aqua Vista.
844
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,360
I was living on the couch,
845
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,400
and I'm just laying there playing
the guitar, and I started going...
846
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,640
# Ding-digga-ding digga...#
847
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,000
You know, I'm thinking,
848
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,800
"Yeah, that's pretty cool, kind
of Roy Orbison, kind of Mexican.
849
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,240
"Yeah, I like that."
850
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,440
So, I showed him, you know,
that guitar riff.
851
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920
I said, "Maybe we should write
something to this."
852
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,200
# It's another tequila sunrise
853
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:02,120
# Staring slowly across the sky
854
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,840
# I said goodbye
855
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,560
# He was just a hired hand
856
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,760
# Workin' on a dreamy plan to try...#
857
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,240
Songs like Desperado and
Tequila Sunrise,
858
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:28,400
that's when Glenn and I began
collaborating, and that's when we
really became a song-writing team.
859
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,320
# Every night when the sun goes down
860
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,720
# Just another lonely boy in town
861
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:44,760
# And she's out runnin' round. #
862
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,800
Earlier that year,
863
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,720
someone had given Jackson Browne
the book of gunfighters.
864
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,240
It had all the big
outlaw groups, Frank and Jesse,
the Doolin-Dalton gang.
865
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,240
We were all just fascinated
with those guys,
866
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,960
and we thought it would make
a great analogy.
867
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,160
Well, for example, we live
outside the laws of normality.
868
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,200
Also, you usually, because of
records or bank robberies,
869
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,000
you usually heard about these
guys before you ever saw them.
870
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,040
They had posters that were wanted
posters up for people.
871
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,560
There just seemed to be some
parallels.
872
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,360
It wasn't really like we were
outlaws,
873
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,320
but I think they did
have their nobler characteristics.
874
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:41,400
# A life on the road is the life of
an outlaw, man. #
875
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,800
We started talking about it.
876
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,040
Then we said, "Well, maybe we
should do, like, an album
all about the rebels."
877
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,760
We got to doing this outlaw album,
878
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,240
and we had eight songs finished,
and we needed two more.
879
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:56,600
An idea Randy came up with
was how the guy became an outlaw
880
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,760
and how he became a guitar player.
881
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:07,920
# He was a poor boy
Raised in a small family
882
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:17,760
# He kinda had a craving
For something no-one else could see
883
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:25,120
# They said that he was crazy
The kind that no lady should meet
884
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:33,200
# He ran off to the city then
wandered around in the street... #
885
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,360
I kind of started it,
and that's what usually happened.
886
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,520
I'd get a verse or two,
and then I'm done,
887
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,040
and they would help
fill in the blanks.
888
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,680
# Oh, yeah. He wants to see
the lights a-flashing
889
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,200
# And listen to the thunder ring. #
890
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:58,720
Nobody expected there to be a concept
album with western cowboys music.
891
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,120
Don Henley was from Texas.
He was a cowboy.
892
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,560
Glenn was from Detroit.
He wanted to be a cowboy.
893
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,320
Because I knew all these guys had
a little cowboy inside of them,
894
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:14,520
I took them to Western Costume and
just said, "Pick out your persona."
895
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,400
Their premise was that,
if they had lived 100 years ago,
896
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,160
in like 1872, they probably would
have been gunslingers.
897
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,360
Everybody's going to be firing
in the direction of this
building right here.
898
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,640
Jackson, JD, Boyd, you all got
to be in the picture more.
899
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,600
We're going to be in there.
You ready? One, two, three!
900
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,040
And we fired so many blanks that it
was a cloud of smoke hanging
901
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,480
over this western town,
902
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:50,600
and the fire department came
Cos they thought it was a fire.
903
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,920
Keep firing!
904
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,240
We were just a bunch of kids.
We were just playing around.
905
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,520
The picture that's on the back
of the album,
906
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,960
there's a lot of reality in it.
907
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,200
All of the agents and managers
and road managers, all the guys
908
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,400
who didn't play are standing up,
alive with badges and guns,
909
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,520
and the four Eagles at the time and
Jackson and I are all dead, bound
910
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,520
up the way they used to do when
they'd catch outlaws in those days.
911
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,000
They'd stand them up for display.
912
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,080
People never tired of looking
at the corpse of a bad boy.
913
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,520
We all felt, when we were doing it
and as it was delivered, that it
914
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,160
was another really remarkable
record on the part of the band.
915
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,000
I mean, it was pretty extraordinary.
916
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,400
The band and I were enormously
thrilled with it.
917
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,120
They literally carried me
out of the control room.
918
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,200
They chaired me
out of the control room.
919
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,720
# Desperado
920
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:52,760
# Is there gonna be
anything left...#
921
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,800
Desperado comes out, and it bombs.
922
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,480
Jerry Greenberg was the
Vice President of Atlantic Records.
923
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,200
They were excited to get
the second Eagles album.
924
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,440
We played him
Desperado, and he said,
925
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,880
"Hmm, that's, yeah, that's nice,
that's good, that's nice."
926
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,040
And turned around and said, "God,
they made a fuckin' cowboy record."
927
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,840
# Desperado
928
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:24,280
# Oh, you ain't gettin' no younger. #
929
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,800
I was extremely flattered that
Linda recorded Desperado.
930
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560
It was really her that
popularized the song.
931
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,360
Her version was very
poignant and beautiful.
932
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,120
# And freedom, oh, freedom
933
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,200
# That's just some people talkin'
934
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:49,120
# Your prisoner is walking through
this world all alone. #
935
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,240
There have been a lot of articles
and things that identify me
with the LA sound.
936
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,760
It's sort of, like, me
and Jackson Browne and the Eagles.
937
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,880
All of us are reaching out for other
musical influences all the time.
938
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,880
The so-called southern California
sound was developing.
939
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,560
It was fresh, it was different,
it was unique.
940
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,360
It was a melting pot, people moving
941
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,040
here from all over the United States
to pursue their dream.
942
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,920
Actors, musicians, wannabe managers,
agents, wannabe, you know, like me.
943
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,280
I picked up the phone cold
and called David Geffen,
944
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,080
who was just starting
Asylum Records.
945
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Long story short, I took
a job as a manager with Asylum.
946
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,240
I was intrigued.
947
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,640
I wanted to know about the Eagles
and meet the Eagles
948
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,800
Cos I was a fan.
949
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,480
Emergency?
950
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,320
I get a phone call.
Glenn Frey's on the phone.
951
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,080
"We need money for Christmas.
Can you book dates?"
952
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,120
I book some dates.
953
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,960
So, I get on a plane
and go out to meet them.
954
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,360
First of all,
the show was fantastic.
955
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Crowd was nothing like I'd seen
a year, year and a half earlier.
956
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,960
Good evening. Welcome to the
Portland version of... Spread Eagle.
957
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,040
Spread Eagle. Tonight,
the promoter gave us chopsticks.
958
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,840
I don't think
we ever checked in a hotel.
959
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,320
We went from there to
a party at a sorority house.
960
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,920
One thing led to another, and I'd
never seen anything like this.
961
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,880
They wouldn't give us
any booze in the bar.
962
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,960
We tried to get some booze,
but they fucked up,
963
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,240
so we may burn the fucking place
down. We're not sure.
964
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:20,560
I don't think we went to sleep.
965
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,240
It was Eagle mania.
966
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,440
And then they went off to England to
record On The Border
with Glyn Johns.
967
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,920
They were quite open to
being produced.
968
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,280
Understandably, that changed.
969
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,440
They began to be more opinionated
and less insecure, perhaps.
970
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,920
We wanted to play rock'n'roll
or at least a more rock'n'roll
971
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,480
version of country music,
and Glyn Johns
972
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,840
was of the opinion that we weren't
really capable of that.
973
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,680
I think he had been
bombarded by loud,
974
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,200
aggressive rock'n'roll for
many, many years.
975
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,640
At that point in his life, he wanted
mellow people and mellow music,
976
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,080
and we weren't exactly at the same
stage in life.
977
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,800
Frey sort of took over more.
978
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,240
He had this desire to be
something that
979
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,200
I didn't really feel that they
were capable of doing.
980
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:20,440
He and Glenn Frey were like oil
and water. They clashed frequently.
981
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,440
In the studio, Glyn Johns was
pretty much a schoolmarm.
982
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,440
He'd push, push, push, you know?
And then he'd say, "That's it.
983
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,240
"That's good enough. We're moving
on. You're not a rock'n'roll band.
984
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,440
"The Who is a rock'n'roll band,
and you're not that."
985
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,200
After each of those records,
the band freaked out and said,
986
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,040
"We've made a huge mistake.
987
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,640
"Glyn Johns missed it."
988
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,480
We actually had conversations.
989
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,200
You know, Desperado hadn't
done as well as the first album.
990
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,640
None of them were thrilled with
the way the record sounded.
991
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,280
We wanted more input into how
our albums were being made.
992
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,200
We wanted more input
into the recording process itself.
993
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,800
Don and I thought that the vocals
were too wet.
994
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,320
There was too much echo on them.
995
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,800
And he definitely told us,
"Excuse me, that's my echo.
996
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,320
"It's my signature.
It's my bloody echo. It stays there.
997
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,840
"You don't tell me what to do."
998
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,920
We needed to make a change.
999
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,320
I joined the Navy at the height
of the Cold War.
1000
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,400
One of the main things they were
doing was looking for Russian
1001
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,480
submarines,
and you do that by using sonar.
1002
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,280
When I got out, I had a lot
of electronics education, obviously.
1003
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,000
And I got a job in a recording
studio here in New York.
1004
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,040
The first session I ever saw,
like day one, day two,
1005
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,040
was a Carole King demo.
1006
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,080
She sat down and played piano,
and it was like, "Boy, this is fun.
1007
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,200
"These people are having fun here."
1008
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
I worked my way up through
the ranks, and then, of course,
1009
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,240
after engineering for four or five
years, I was like,
1010
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,320
"Well, I can produce better than
some of these guys I'm working for."
1011
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,240
At the time, I was managing
Joe Walsh, so I played them
1012
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,600
Walsh music that I thought was an
example of how it could be edgier.
1013
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,920
Joe and I had just finished
an album called
1014
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,320
The Smoker You Drink,
The Player You Get.
1015
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,360
And they heard that and said,
"That's what we want to sound like."
1016
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,360
So, Irving arranged for us to have a
meeting with Bill Szymczyk.
1017
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,880
We really only had two questions
that we wanted to ask him -
1018
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,080
do you mind if we have some input
about how much echo is on the
vocals?
1019
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,840
And we wanted somebody who would put
a microphone on each
1020
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,840
and every drum so we could have more
control over the mix.
1021
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,760
He said yes to every question, and
so we knew he was the guy for us.
1022
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,360
I said, "OK, under one condition.
1023
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,800
"I have to call Glyn
and make sure it's OK with him."
1024
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,440
So, I called him,
and I said, you know,
1025
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,480
"Glyn, the Eagles want me
to produce them."
1026
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,040
"Better you than me, mate."
1027
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,560
That's pretty much how I felt.
1028
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,240
I mean, it had come to
a fairly unpleasant end.
1029
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,200
Well, OK, you know, so much
for Beatle country with Glyn Johns.
1030
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,160
Let's have a warm round of applause
on a hot afternoon for the Eagles!
1031
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,080
# James Dean, James Dean
1032
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,400
# So hungry and so lean
1033
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,040
# James Dean, James Dean
1034
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,400
# You said it all so clean. #
1035
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,560
Along about the third album,
1036
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,680
I was having some difficulty
in communicating, I felt, in the
1037
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,200
band, and I was starting to think
maybe I should go at some point.
1038
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,920
They still had this unfulfilled
desire to be a mainstream
1039
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,480
rock band and not just a vocal band,
1040
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,320
but I think they wanted to
go in a tougher direction.
1041
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,800
Bernie Leadon was a country-based
guitar player, but every time
1042
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,960
I wanted to do a rock'n'roll song,
he was the lead guitar player.
1043
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,560
# Cos I'm already gone. #
1044
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,360
Every time we wanted to do something
country that Bernie sang,
1045
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,200
I was supposed to be
the lead guitar player,
1046
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,200
and I wasn't a country
musician by any stretch.
1047
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,760
It always felt like we needed
a third guitar player.
1048
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,400
We had met this friend of Bernie's,
this guy named Don Felder.
1049
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,880
We were playing in Boston, and he
came back to visit Bernie,
1050
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,040
and we were jamming upstairs in the
dressing room,
1051
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,560
and this guy was all over the neck.
1052
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,040
What he brought was great chops.
1053
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,360
I mean, we called him Fingers,
Fingers Felder,
1054
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,160
because he was an incredible player.
1055
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,760
We did that session. I think
it was like three hours.
1056
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,240
And then I packed up and went home,
1057
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,280
not thinking anything more about it
than it was just another session.
1058
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,960
And the next day, Glenn called me
and asked me
1059
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,320
if I would like to join the band.
1060
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,400
I said, "Absolutely."
1061
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,120
All right, let's do...I'm in heaven.
1062
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,400
Let's go another one.
All right, do it right!
1063
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,280
The banter that would go
on in between takes was hysterical,
1064
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:20,640
and so I took to running a two-track
to pick up these silly things.
1065
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,440
We were young men with raging
hormones and something to prove.
1066
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,960
In the context of the times
and the profession,
1067
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,840
the way we behaved wasn't really
all that remarkable.
1068
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,920
The creative impulse comes from the
dark side of the personality,
1069
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,240
so we worked it good, you know.
1070
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,320
We did a lot of stupid things,
said a lot of stupid things.
1071
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,680
It was the '70s.
There were drugs everywhere.
1072
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:47,960
# Cactus sunrise was in my face
Everyone was dying
1073
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,560
# Everyone was lying and trying
1074
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,120
# Well, rub your belly in
the linseed oil...#
1075
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,600
There you go.
1076
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,680
Well, the heartbreak of psoriasis
has once again descended upon
1077
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,120
the adolescent experience,
and we'll see you later.
1078
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,160
See you at the show
later on tonight.
1079
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,120
The question was, you know, who
could handle it? Who could function?
1080
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,160
Who could show up?
1081
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,080
# One of these nights
1082
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,320
# One of these crazy long nights
1083
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,800
# We're gonna find out, pretty mama
1084
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,880
# What turns on your lights
1085
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,320
# The full moon is calling
1086
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,520
# The fever is high
1087
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,040
# And the wicked
wind whispers and more
1088
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,400
# You got your demons
1089
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:51,080
# And you got desires
But I got a few of my own
1090
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,200
# Ooooh, someone to be kind to
1091
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,040
# In between the dark and the light
1092
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:06,120
# Ooooh, comin' right behind you
1093
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,560
# Swear I'm gonna find you
One of these nights
1094
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,880
# One of these days... #
1095
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,080
There were always girls.
1096
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,200
There were a lot of opportunities
out on the road to entertain
1097
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,520
ourselves with one thing or another.
1098
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,200
So, we started to perfect
after-show partying,
1099
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,880
and we invented a place called
the Third Encore.
1100
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,480
We did two encores in our show,
so the third encore was the party.
1101
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,600
Everybody in the band and everybody
in the crew was given a bunch
1102
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,600
of buttons, and all we said was,
"No weirdos, no strange people, OK?
1103
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,800
"If you're going to give a button to
somebody, you know, make it count."
1104
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,120
Totally sick. There's some real
warped shit coming on now, ladies
and gentlemen.
1105
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,640
A member of Andy Warthog's pop-bowel
movement has just tried to crash our
party.
1106
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,720
What the? Welcome to Pittsburgh
Spread Eagle.
1107
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,560
We want to just ask these
girls why they think they have to
leave now that it's 2:00.
1108
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,200
One thing, he smells like beer.
1109
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,000
We'd fill the bathtubs up
with Budweiser,
1110
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,160
and we'd have a party
after every show.
1111
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,120
Your name, please. Tammy Farley.
Tammy, Tammy, Tammy.
1112
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,880
Here we have Karen.
Karen is 20 years old.
Is that correct?
1113
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,360
Yeah. What's your name, dear?
Fuck it, man. Pardon? Fuck it.
1114
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,880
Her name's "Fuck it, man."
1115
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,800
I want to talk about sex and drugs.
1116
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,960
Who wants to go first?
1117
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,240
I'm not lost for words on either
subject.
1118
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,320
Sex and drugs kind of came as a big
package in the '60s.
1119
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,320
You know, it seemed like everybody,
the sexual revolution
1120
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:45,000
and the drug thing, I guess,
probably started out together.
1121
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,320
Didn't they?
1122
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,320
Don and I both tried to have
relationships while we were members
1123
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,440
of the Eagles, but it was always
like the Eagles trumped everything.
1124
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:04,880
When the Eagles became successful,
we challenged all the rules.
1125
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,440
Like when David Geffen
left Asylum Records
1126
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,520
and sold everything to Warner Bros
and started his new empire.
1127
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,400
Let's be frank. When we signed
that contract, we were idiots.
1128
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,360
We knew nothing about the business.
1129
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,640
We had poor legal representation,
nobody looking out for us.
1130
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,560
Remember, bands don't really get
record royalties usually ever.
1131
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,840
So, they get money from touring,
but they get publishing money.
1132
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,640
So, in the very beginning,
one thing that Geffen did
1133
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,040
that I thought was great. He had
us form a band publishing company.
1134
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,480
All the band's publishing
went in that.
1135
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,960
The problem was Geffen
had the other half.
1136
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,240
Half the Eagles' publishing,
half of my publishing,
1137
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,080
half of all the artists that he
signed went to Warner Bros, but
1138
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,920
he got them to return mine.
1139
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,520
Jackson turned me on to the Eagles.
1140
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,720
He had turned me
on to a lot of artists,
1141
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,960
and I felt I owed him something.
1142
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,960
And that, not surprisingly, was not
acceptable rationale to the Eagles!
1143
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,800
There's a certain amount of ire,
like, real, you know, like,
1144
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,520
"What the fuck?
1145
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,160
"I mean, we didn't get
our publishing back!"
1146
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,160
So, it was the publishing issue and
the fact that the business managers
1147
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,560
and the lawyers were all shared
common guys,
1148
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,680
and did they have a conflict when an
issue came up and which side to take?
1149
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,840
Well, it just makes you
feel like meat, you know?
1150
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,800
It started out as such a personal,
nurturing endeavour, you know,
1151
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,240
with Mr Geffen saying,
"Oh, I'm going to protect you guys.
1152
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,600
"That's why I'm calling
my new label Asylum.
1153
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,360
"It's going to be
a sanctuary for real artists."
1154
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,880
He once said to Irving Azoff,
1155
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,840
"You know, Irving,
this would be a great business
1156
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,120
"if there weren't artists."
1157
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,120
Irving was the one guy who
really believed in us,
1158
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,840
that I thought could do
something to help us.
1159
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,280
I basically hired a lawyer
and went in
1160
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,400
after I said, "The Eagles would like
their publishing back,"
1161
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,200
to which the obvious response was,
"No".
1162
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,360
He sort of drew a line in the sand
and declared war,
1163
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,560
so I felt, for my survival,
as their manager,
1164
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,040
I needed to prove to them
that I wasn't afraid of Geffen
1165
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,040
and would stand up and, you know.
1166
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,520
The lawsuit was filed
as a last resort.
1167
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,560
I don't think David liked
reading his name in the lawsuit.
1168
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,200
I thought it was incredibly
ungrateful
1169
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,640
and they misrepresented the facts,
but so be it.
1170
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,600
Ultimately, we settled out of court,
1171
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,440
and I don't believe it took
very long.
1172
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:31,080
He just wanted to get rid of us.
1173
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:36,040
This is our new record contract.
1174
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,960
Just paper!
1175
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,320
So, then we headed off,
for parts unknown
1176
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,080
with Irving Azoff at the helm.
1177
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,760
This card game is called
Eagle Poker.
1178
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,800
It's a bastardization of Red Dog.
1179
01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:00,720
I invented it in Detroit, Michigan,
in 1947...
1180
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,200
one year before I was born.
1181
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:08,160
We were big gamblers. We played
poker all the time.
1182
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,080
Oh, boy. They should have never
given me money!
1183
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,360
So, we decided we'd go to
the Bahamas to gamble.
1184
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,440
Everybody but Don was holding.
1185
01:09:18,440 --> 01:09:20,960
I had like four joints in a baggie,
1186
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,240
stuffed down my sock
in my cowboy boot.
1187
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,080
Durkin, the pilot, has a joint.
1188
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,640
Irving had about 30 Valiums
in a sugar pack.
1189
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,120
There was a couple
of customs officials there
1190
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,400
that asked us to collect
all our luggage and come over,
1191
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,960
and they wanted to search us
cos we looked terrible.
1192
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,440
We had really long hair
and patches on our jeans
1193
01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:42,440
and a beard and not slept.
1194
01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:45,040
Now, I'm freaking out.
1195
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,040
Bernie's freaking out.
Irving's freaking out.
1196
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,160
Henley's pissed off.
1197
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,680
Don't touch me.
1198
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,120
Well, the guy proceeds to put us
all in a room together,
1199
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,440
and they start searching us
one by one.
1200
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:01,080
My greatest fear is that I'm going
to be locked in a jail cell
1201
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,920
with Bernie Leadon.
1202
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,120
So, at this point,
Irving steps in and takes
1203
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,880
one of the Bahamian customs guys
over to the side
1204
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,640
and has a chat with him.
1205
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,720
I'm not sure, to this day,
what Irving said to him.
1206
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,360
The next thing I knew,
they let us pass with no problem.
1207
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,040
It was sort of miraculous,
really, it was,
1208
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,080
because I thought for sure
we were going to be in the slammer.
1209
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,200
It was dumb luck that this guy
bought my line
1210
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,560
and didn't search them.
1211
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,680
That was the day I decided,
Irving Azoff
1212
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,880
was the greatest manager
in rock'n'roll
1213
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,720
and I would never do anything
without him by my side.
1214
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,440
I had the only seat in a major
championship fight...
1215
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:47,320
to be sitting there when, you know,
when a lyric was thrown out
1216
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,280
and then hear a track.
1217
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,160
# My, oh, my, you sure know
how to arrange things... #
1218
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,560
I've watched the creative
process with lots of people,
1219
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,320
but I've never seen it the way
it fell in place with them.
1220
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,200
I remember watching
Lyin' Eyes written.
1221
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,280
Glenn just had a way of coming up
with a phrase, you know?
1222
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,080
He had written some kind of a tune,
and they were sitting in Tana's
1223
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:13,040
one night and looking at some young
girl with an older guy at the bar,
1224
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,920
and Glenn said,
"Look at those lyin' eyes."
1225
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,640
And just...just like that, wow,
there's the song.
1226
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:25,120
# You can't hide your lyin' eyes
1227
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:31,880
# And your smile is a thin disguise
1228
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:39,160
# I thought by now you'd realise
1229
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:44,840
# There ain't no way to hide
your lyin' eyes... #
1230
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,160
It was just about all these girls
who would come down to Dan Tana's
1231
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,680
looking beautiful, and they'd be
there from 8:00pm to midnight
1232
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,120
and have dinner and drinks
with all of us rockers,
1233
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,440
and then they'd go home
because they were kept women.
1234
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:02,520
# On the other side of town
a boy is waiting
1235
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:12,120
# With fiery eyes
and dreams no-one could steal
1236
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:18,200
# She drives on through the night
anticipating
1237
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:23,080
# Cos he makes her feel
the way she used to feel... #
1238
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,720
You know, when we were doing the
One Of These Nights album,
1239
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,440
we'd gone through three albums,
1240
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:31,920
and the only people who'd sung on
any hit records were Don and myself.
1241
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,160
And Randy always felt like,
you know, he was a lead singer, too.
1242
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,960
And I actually felt that way, too.
I liked his voice.
1243
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,960
So, he brought in the beginnings
of Take It To The Limit,
1244
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,240
and it became the Eagles'
first number-one single.
1245
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,280
# Take it to the limit, come on
1246
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,400
# And take it to the limit
1247
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:55,000
# One more time
1248
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,440
# Take it to the limit... #
1249
01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:02,040
The line Take It To The Limit
was to keep trying
1250
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:07,120
before you reach a point in your
life where you feel, you know,
1251
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,160
you've done everything
and seen everything sort of feeling.
1252
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,760
You know, a part of getting old,
and just to take it to the limit
1253
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,000
one more time, like every day,
just keep punching away at it.
1254
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,560
And that's all that I really...
that was the line,
1255
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,440
and from there, the song took
a different, you know, course.
1256
01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:27,000
# Take it to the limit
1257
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,960
# Ah
1258
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,960
# Take it to the limit. #
1259
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:40,880
I think everybody in the Eagles
did the level best we could.
1260
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,080
You have to remember
how young we were,
1261
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,080
the fact that nobody had anything
when we started,
1262
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,640
and you got all this stuff
coming at you.
1263
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,800
Meanwhile, you're touring
all the time. It's a lot.
1264
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,000
To Bernie, success on any scale
was synonymous with selling out.
1265
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,200
He wanted us to remain
sort of an underground band.
1266
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,480
We had our problems with Bernie,
and Bernie had his problems with us.
1267
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:08,840
Some of it was based on him being
able to have a voice in the Eagles
1268
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,880
and record the songs he wanted to,
the way he wanted to.
1269
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,280
We were getting more
and more rocked out,
1270
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,960
and I think Bernie was less
and less happy about that...
1271
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,240
to the point that, one time,
we had worked on a track all night.
1272
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,040
I mean, it was a rocked-out track,
1273
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,400
and we're all sitting
behind the board the next day,
1274
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,760
listening to the various takes
of it, trying to decide
1275
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,080
which take we liked the best.
Bernie hadn't said a word.
1276
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,480
So, I asked him over the board,
I said, "Bernie, what do you think?"
1277
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:39,000
There's a long pause,
and he gets up, and he stretches,
1278
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,080
and he says,
"I think I'm going surfing."
1279
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,600
And he left.
1280
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,600
I was caught in the middle
a lot of times.
1281
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,520
And sometimes
I would agree with Bernie,
1282
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,960
but most of the time,
I would agree with Glenn.
1283
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,600
Glenn and I always wanted
the band to be a hybrid,
1284
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,120
to encompass bluegrass and country
and rock'n'roll.
1285
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,440
There was a part of Bernie
that really resisted that.
1286
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,760
After a while,
it became a real problem,
1287
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,520
particularly between Bernie
and Glenn.
1288
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,200
Finally, we were at the Orange Bowl
in Miami.
1289
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,320
We were backstage, and we were
talking about what our next move
1290
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,880
was going to be, what our plans
were supposed to be,
1291
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:28,120
and I was animated and adamant
about what we needed to do next
1292
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,320
here, there, and everywhere,
and Bernie comes over
1293
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,040
and pours a beer on my head and
says, "You need to chill out, man."
1294
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,920
I have no idea.
It was a spontaneous thing.
1295
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,640
I mean, I take that incident now
quite seriously.
1296
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,440
That was a very
disrespectful thing to do.
1297
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:50,600
Obviously, it was intended
to be humiliating to him,
1298
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:56,440
I would say, and is something
I'm really not proud of.
1299
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:59,000
It did illustrate a breaking point.
1300
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,160
During that time,
we got a couple shows
1301
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,680
opening for the Rolling Stones,
and Irving was managing Joe Walsh.
1302
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,320
Joe Walsh was a bona fide
rock'n'roll guitar player.
1303
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,400
So, for a couple of those shows,
just for our encores,
1304
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,520
we'd put Joe Walsh in a road box,
1305
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,760
and we'd come back to do an encore,
and we'd roll the road box out,
1306
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,040
and just like the model jumping out
of a cake,
1307
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,080
we'd open the guitar case,
and there would be Joe Walsh
1308
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,200
with his Les Paul, and he'd climb
out of the box and plug in,
1309
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,240
and the Eagles...we would play
Rocky Mountain Way.
1310
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,960
I loved the way he played.
1311
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,240
I'd loved the James Gang
when I was growing up in Detroit.
1312
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:05,120
Now I started thinking,
"Joe Walsh for Bernie Leadon."
1313
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,840
# Spent the last year
Rocky Mountain Way
1314
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:17,480
# Couldn't get much higher... #
1315
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:20,640
OK, maybe the vocals
won't be quite as good,
1316
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,120
but, boy,
are we going to kick some ass!
1317
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,720
# Time to open fire
1318
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,640
# And we don't need the ladies cryin'
1319
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,040
# Cos the story's sad... #
1320
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,840
I think one of the things
that I brought into the band
1321
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,240
that was good for the band was
1322
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,200
to bring it up a notch
when we played live.
1323
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,120
Just keep kicking it in the butt
a little bit, you know?
1324
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,920
All right, DC,
come on, give it up!
1325
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,080
I went to a show,
maybe eight months later,
1326
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,160
and the band are interacting
with each other
1327
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,400
exactly like we did with me onstage,
except instead of me,
1328
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,120
Walsh was up there, and it just was,
like, really, really odd, you know,
1329
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,520
to be watching it
and not be part of it.
1330
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,800
So, I actually left that show.
I was just like,
1331
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,720
"This is, like, too weird."
1332
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,120
So, we got Joe Walsh in the band.
That's another adventure,
1333
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,400
because Joe was an interesting
bunch of guys.
1334
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,120
Hey, I tell you what.
If you got firecrackers,
1335
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,720
just wait until you get home,
lock yourself in the closet,
1336
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,760
and light everything you got, OK?
1337
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,680
APPLAUSE
1338
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,000
Thank you, Joe.
1339
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,080
He brought a lot of levity to
just about everything that happened,
1340
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,400
which was needed at that time.
1341
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,880
Heads or tails? Heads.
1342
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,400
Well, I could use a little head
myself.
1343
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,320
In those days, you didn't know
what he was going to do next.
1344
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,800
It was fun most of the time,
although not all the time.
1345
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,280
It was fun, depending on how much
you'd had to drink,
1346
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,080
to see a television go sailing off
the 14th-floor balcony
1347
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,240
and into the pool,
as long as nobody got hurt.
1348
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,200
Joe Walsh was the American King
of room trash.
1349
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,040
He had studied under
some of the best.
1350
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,960
One of the most terrifying things
that ever happened to me
1351
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,600
was that Keith Moon
decided he liked me.
1352
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,000
All those Keith Moon stories
are true.
1353
01:19:53,960 --> 01:20:00,880
This guy was full-blown nuts, and you
never knew what was coming next.
1354
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,960
Keith was my mentor at chaos,
getting arrested,
1355
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,600
practical jokes, pranks, room damage.
1356
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,880
# I live in hotels
tear out the walls
1357
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:26,000
# I have accountants pay for it all
1358
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:31,360
# They say I'm crazy
but I have a good time... #
1359
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,120
One year, we gave him a chainsaw
for his birthday as a joke.
1360
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:45,080
# Life's been good to me so far
1361
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,720
# Yeah, yeah, yeah... #
1362
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,680
By this time,
we were eating in nice restaurants
1363
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:56,560
and buying expensive wine
and staying in great hotel rooms.
1364
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,840
There were a lot of hotels that
we weren't allowed to go back to.
1365
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,320
We were in Chicago, and we were
staying at the Astor Towers.
1366
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,680
In Chicago, here's what happened.
1367
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,440
There was a knock on the door,
and in walked John Belushi.
1368
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:16,760
John wanted to show me
the finer restaurants of Chicago.
1369
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,480
So, we went to the restaurant,
1370
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,720
and they wouldn't let us in because
we had jeans, and he got
1371
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,520
the maitre d' up to
like a $300 bribe
1372
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,320
and still they would not let us in.
1373
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,040
And John said, "I know what to do.
I know what to do."
1374
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,880
And the next thing I knew,
we were standing in the alley,
1375
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:40,240
and he spray-painted my jeans black
and made me do his,
1376
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,360
and we went back, and we got in.
1377
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,920
We were sitting in these
Queen Anne-period chairs that had
1378
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,560
needlepoint, and when we stood up,
that was all black,
1379
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,320
and the butts of our pants
were jeans again,
1380
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,440
so, we had to kind of back
out of there and leave fast.
1381
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,040
But that was the beginning of it.
1382
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,400
And so that night, with much glee,
1383
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,920
Joe set about to set the
world record for room trash.
1384
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,640
John and I did $28,000
of room damage.
1385
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,440
Glenn and Don didn't really ever
approve of the room trashing,
1386
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:25,800
but they understood it.
1387
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,120
They wanted respect as
rock'n'rollers,
1388
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,840
and Joe brought that respect.
1389
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,600
I was insecure always and afraid,
1390
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:40,520
so I hid behind all of my
hang-ups with humour.
1391
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:46,280
I was totally in awe
of Don and Glenn.
1392
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:52,080
I was intimidated by Don and Glenn
because they sang so good,
1393
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:57,640
and they were writing stuff
I could never come close to writing.
1394
01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:03,560
After we've just had a bunch of hit
records on One Of These Nights,
1395
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,160
we were under the microscope.
Everybody was going to look at
1396
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,720
the next record we made
and pass judgment.
1397
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,560
Don and I were going,
"Man, this better be good."
1398
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,680
Look at that. It's going to be quite
a nice guitar.
1399
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:22,720
Felder, you see this?
Who, uh, who tuned this?
1400
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,200
Well, it has no nut.
1401
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:28,080
With Joe in the band with me,
I wanted to write something,
1402
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,720
musically, that would fit
two guitar players, that we
1403
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,080
could play off of each other.
1404
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,520
So, I was sitting on a sofa
in Malibu at this rental house
1405
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,440
that I had on the beach. I was
playing this acoustic guitar
1406
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:43,360
and this introduction came out,
that progression.
1407
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,720
I kept playing it three
or four times.
1408
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,920
I had an old reel-to-reel
tape recorder,
1409
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,480
so I went back and recorded that
introduction to that song and
1410
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:56,400
laid down that progression, made a
mix of it, and put it on a cassette
1411
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:01,000
with, I don't know, the other 14
or 15 pieces of music that I had
1412
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,560
assembled, and I gave a copy of the
cassette to Don, one to Glenn.
1413
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:11,080
Don Felder used to send Henley and
I instrumental tapes, song ideas.
1414
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,920
95% of them were cluttered
with guitar licks,
1415
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,560
and we would listen to these things
and go, "Well, where do you sing?"
1416
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,480
As Don and I were listening through
one of the Felder cassettes and this
1417
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:26,920
song came up, we both sort of said,
"Hmm. Now, this is interesting."
1418
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,680
The music sounded to me like some
sort of a cross between
1419
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:36,040
Spanish music and reggae music, and
that one really jumped out at me.
1420
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,360
So, we set out to write a song
to that progression.
1421
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,720
I'm pretty sure it was Henley's idea
to have a song called
1422
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:46,920
Hotel California.
1423
01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:55,280
I think Henley's and Glenn's lyric
writing really came to a head.
1424
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,040
They became real honest-to-God
songwriters then.
1425
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,760
During the recording of it,
I thought that we
1426
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,400
were on to something.
I knew we were on to something.
1427
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,400
We were in a really creative phase,
1428
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,800
and it just so happened that
Bill Szymczyk pushed record.
1429
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,000
Thank God!
1430
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,480
# On a dark desert highway
1431
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:28,720
# Cool wind in my hair
1432
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,040
# Warm smell of colitas
1433
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,000
# Rising up through the air
1434
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,200
# Up ahead in the distance
1435
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,160
# I saw a shimmering light
1436
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,480
# My head grew heavy
and my sight grew dim
1437
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:47,880
# I had to stop for the night
1438
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,400
# There she stood in the doorway
1439
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,120
# I heard the mission bell
1440
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,000
# And I was thinkin' to myself
1441
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,200
# This could be heaven
or this could be hell
1442
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,480
# Then she lit up a candle
1443
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:07,840
# And she showed me the way
1444
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,080
# There were voices
down the corridor
1445
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,360
# I thought I heard them say
1446
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,080
# Welcome to the Hotel California
1447
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,240
# Such a lovely place
Such a lovely place
1448
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,720
# Such a lovely face
1449
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,080
# Plenty of room at the Hotel... #
1450
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:33,000
We've been asked a million times,
"What does that song mean?"
1451
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,640
Don and I were big fans of hidden,
deeper meaning.
1452
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,440
You know, you write songs and you
send them out to the world.
1453
01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:43,760
# So I called up the Captain
1454
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,040
# Please bring me my wine
1455
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,400
# He said
1456
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:52,680
# We haven't had that
spirit here since 1969... #
1457
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,360
And maybe somewhere in that song
is some stuff that's just yours,
1458
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,680
that they're never going to
figure out.
1459
01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,960
# Far away
1460
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:03,480
# Wake you up in the middle
of the night
1461
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:05,320
# Just to hear them say... #
1462
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,400
There has been a great deal
of ridiculous
1463
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,440
speculation about that
song over the years.
1464
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:12,400
I mean, it's really taken on a life
or a mythology of its own.
1465
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,040
It's sort of like the "Paul is dead"
thing, or "Who was the walrus?"
1466
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,360
# Bring your alibis... #
1467
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,160
It's been denounced by Evangelicals.
1468
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,400
We've been accused of all
kinds of wacky things,
1469
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,640
like being members
of the Church of Satan.
1470
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,960
People see images on the album
cover that aren't there.
1471
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,440
Just lunatic stuff.
1472
01:27:32,440 --> 01:27:39,680
# And in the master's chambers
They gathered for the feast
1473
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,480
# They stabbed it with
their steely knives
1474
01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:46,760
# But they just can't kill the beast
1475
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,840
# Last thing I remember
1476
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,880
# I was running for the door
1477
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:58,880
# I had to find the passage back
to the place I was before... #
1478
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,480
My simple explanation is it's a
song about a journey from innocence
1479
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:06,040
to experience. That's all.
1480
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,160
# You can check out
any time you like
1481
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,880
# But you can never leave... #
1482
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:35,800
Whereas Felder was technically very,
very good, Walsh brought spontaneity
1483
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,560
to it, and the two of them playing
off each other was just brilliant.
1484
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,960
Out of great respect for each other,
there was always a little
1485
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,640
competition between Felder and I.
1486
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,680
We always tried to
kind of one-up each other, you know?
1487
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,040
And that's really healthy.
1488
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:20,480
It always made the song better
when we were kind of,
1489
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:22,920
"Oh, yeah? Listen to this."
1490
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,960
We got to the end, where now is
the harmony guitars that are
1491
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,960
playing together, and Joe said, "We
should do something that's like...
1492
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,160
" # Da-da-da-da-da-da-da. # "
1493
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,120
The ending of Hotel California -
1494
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,760
that's one of my high points
of my entire recording career.
1495
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:16,160
To have a seven-minute single be
number one - that was unheard of.
1496
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,320
The record company said, "You got to
do an edit. You got to do an edit."
1497
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,880
And we all said, "No. Take it or
leave it." And they took it.
1498
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,920
We had no idea that that song
would affect as many
1499
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,560
people on the planet as it did.
1500
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,040
Thank you.
1501
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:40,200
The rest of the album
kind of developed around that song.
1502
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,120
The album, you could loosely say, is
a thematic album, a concept album.
1503
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,120
Not unlike Desperado,
Hotel California
1504
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,560
was our reaction to what was
happening to us.
1505
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,760
On just about every album we made,
there was some kind of a
1506
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:02,680
commentary on the music business
and on American culture in general.
1507
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,600
The hotel itself could be
taken as a metaphor not
1508
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,200
only for the myth-making
of Southern California,
1509
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,240
but for the myth-making that is
the American dream because it's a
1510
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,240
fine line between the American dream
and the American nightmare.
1511
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:21,160
# When you're out there on your own
Where your memories... #
1512
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:26,640
All the songs we write for this
album can fit inside this concept.
1513
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:34,520
# You were lost until you found
out what it all comes down to... #
1514
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,920
Once the rest of the guys in the
band understood what the song
1515
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,360
Hotel California was about,
it became kind of a theme,
1516
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,760
and they started to customise
their writing to fit in with it.
1517
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:53,400
# Day by day
It's only fair to wait... #
1518
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,680
I think that the Eagles
started breaking up
1519
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,320
during the recording of
Hotel California.
1520
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:02,800
There were creative tensions, but
there was always tension tensions.
1521
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,440
By the time we got to recording
Hotel California,
1522
01:32:05,440 --> 01:32:07,960
if the song wasn't good enough to
survive the amount of time
1523
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,560
we were working on the record,
it didn't make it on the record.
1524
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,520
Perfection is not an accident.
1525
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,520
'Our goal was just to be the best
we could be.
1526
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,440
'We wanted to get better
as songwriters'
1527
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:20,160
and as performers,
and we worked on it.
1528
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:26,600
Don and I felt like there was
no space now for filler, and
1529
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:31,360
Don Felder, for all of his talents
as a guitar player, is not a singer.
1530
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:37,320
Felder wanted to write more,
sing more, and Felder had kind of
1531
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:41,200
demanded that, "I'm going to sing
two songs on Hotel California."
1532
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,800
We were all alphas,
1533
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:55,000
and we were all very assertive
and powerful in our own way.
1534
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,600
You could bring in a great
track to Don and Glenn
1535
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,080
and be really excited about it.
1536
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:03,480
This happened to Felder.
1537
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,720
I wrote the track for
Victim Of Love.
1538
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,600
It was going to be a follow-up
song on the Hotel California
1539
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,080
record for me to sing.
1540
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,800
# Victim of love... #
1541
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,120
I have no recollection of anybody
being promised anything.
1542
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,720
Victim Of Love was not brought
to the band as a complete song.
1543
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:30,280
It was simply another chord
progression that Don Felder
brought in.
1544
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,680
It had no title, no lyrics,
and no melody.
1545
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,000
Glenn and I and JD Souther
1546
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,280
all sat down
and hammered out the rest of it.
1547
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:40,800
We did let Mr Felder sing it.
1548
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,360
He sang it dozens of times over
the span of a week, over and over
1549
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:45,480
and over again.
1550
01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:47,680
It simply didn't come up to
band standards.
1551
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,880
Victim Of Love had been recorded
with Felder as the lead vocalist,
1552
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,240
and my job was to take
Don Felder out to lunch or dinner
1553
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,520
while they went in the studio
and put Henley's vocal on it.
1554
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:04,120
# What kind of love
have you got? #
1555
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:11,160
Irving took me out and said that
everybody in the band
1556
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,720
thought that it was better
if Don sang that.
1557
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,440
And it was a little
bit of a bitter pill to swallow.
1558
01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:19,800
I felt like Don was taking
that song from me.
1559
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,120
I'd been promised
a song on the next record.
1560
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,440
But there was no real way to argue
with my vocal versus
1561
01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:27,720
Don Henley's vocal.
1562
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,600
There was no way to argue with
anybody's vocal in the band
1563
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:31,960
compared to Don Henley.
1564
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,680
Felder demanding to sing that
song would be the equivalent of me
1565
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,480
demanding to play lead guitar on
Hotel California.
1566
01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:46,960
It just didn't make sense.
1567
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,840
If you look at my vocal
participation in the Eagles
1568
01:34:54,840 --> 01:35:00,000
over the course of the 1970s,
I sang less and less.
1569
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,960
It was intentional.
We had Don Henley.
1570
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:15,880
Don and Glenn's position was, "This
is the best thing for the Eagles."
1571
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,000
And Don Felder never forgot that.
1572
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:24,200
# What kind of love have you got? #
1573
01:35:30,440 --> 01:35:32,760
Get it! Get it! Run! Run! Run!
1574
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:34,440
Shit!
1575
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,720
This is a real healthy thing.
1576
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:42,040
It promotes good feelings,
you know, among...the guys,
1577
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,000
and it keeps us
from killing each other.
1578
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,520
Where's my glove?
Who's got my glove?
1579
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,000
If we can yell at each other
on a baseball field,
1580
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,120
then we don't have to yell
at each other when we're working.
1581
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,640
Get all my frustrations out.
What frustrations?
1582
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:58,200
I haven't been getting laid.
1583
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,480
We try to get out and play softball
with the crew if we have a day off.
1584
01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:06,800
Swing, batter! Oh, it's gone,
it's gone. It's gone.
1585
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,720
'Something to help release
the tension.'
1586
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,920
That's really what
I do to keep from going crazy.
1587
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,960
How do you keep from going crazy,
Joe?
1588
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,920
Well...
1589
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,080
I tell you, I just, uh...
1590
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,480
'In the press and the media,
it was presented that we were
1591
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:36,040
'constantly at war, and I can't say
that's exactly the case.
1592
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:45,440
'We were interacting
and we were all intense.
1593
01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:47,360
'Glenn said to me one time,'
1594
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:51,440
"I get nuts sometimes
and I'm sorry."
1595
01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:52,840
Hey, Joe.
1596
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,880
'But that tension
had a lot to do with'
1597
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,480
fanning the artistic fire.
1598
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:07,040
Having that dynamic was
important in making the music.
1599
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,360
Well, we're rehearsing now,
and before we're even playing
1600
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,960
and guys are just noodling around
and getting their amps going
1601
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,160
and stuff, we hear Joe go...
1602
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,760
..# Do-do-do-do-do. #
1603
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,440
You know, and everyone would
kind of go, "What did you play?
1604
01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:27,040
"Play that again."
1605
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:31,480
That was an exercise I was doing
because it's a coordination thing.
1606
01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:33,640
You know, it's like one
of these deals.
1607
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,640
So, I was doing that to warm up,
and they said, "Well, what is that?"
1608
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,520
And I said, "Well, that's just
something I have, you know?
1609
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,000
There you go.
1610
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,560
That's the lick.
1611
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,040
That's what we should build
the song around.
1612
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,840
I was riding shotgun in a Corvette
with a drug dealer on the way
1613
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:01,640
to a poker game,
and the next thing I knew,
1614
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,560
we were going about 90 miles an hour,
holding big time.
1615
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,280
I was like, "Hey, man.
What are you doing?"
1616
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:10,640
You know, and he looked at me,
and he grinned.
1617
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,600
He goes, "Life in the fast lane."
1618
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,320
And I thought, immediately,
"Now, there's a song title."
1619
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:23,600
# Life in the fast lane
Surely make you lose your mind
1620
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,480
# Life in the fast lane... #
1621
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,920
Then they put out the greatest hits.
1622
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,600
There was a period where we sold
a million records
1623
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,480
a month for 18 months.
1624
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:40,400
It's a little-known fact that the
Eagles had the biggest-selling
1625
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,480
album of the 20th century.
1626
01:38:43,480 --> 01:38:50,000
But the music business never ever
got honest of its own volition.
1627
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,640
No record company ever went to
an artist and said,
1628
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:53,960
"You've done a great job.
1629
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,320
"We're going to increase
your royalties."
1630
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,440
So we created our own
promotion company.
1631
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,880
We created our own
management company.
1632
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,760
We had our own booking agency.
1633
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,240
Stop any time.
1634
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,880
# Take it to the limit... #
1635
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:18,920
We achieved an amount of success
beyond our wildest imagination,
1636
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,400
and Randy really had
trouble with it.
1637
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,240
Bam! Bam!
1638
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:28,200
'Randy used to have trouble singing
the high note at the end of
Take It To The Limit.'
1639
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:32,440
# ..Come on and take it to the limit
1640
01:39:32,440 --> 01:39:34,520
# One more time
1641
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,440
# Take it to the limit... #
1642
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:42,800
Oh, yeah, I was always
kind of scared, basically.
1643
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,760
"What if I don't hit it right?"
It was a pretty high note.
1644
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,440
And in the middle of the fade,
you crank the volume knob and go,
"What?!"
1645
01:39:56,440 --> 01:40:04,800
Randy could do it, but if you made
him do it, "Oh, no, man, I, uh..."
1646
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:11,240
# One more time. #
1647
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,000
Thank you. Randy Meisner.
1648
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,080
He'd call the road manager and say,
1649
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,680
"Tell Glenn I don't want to do
Take It To The Limit any more.
1650
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,040
"Take it out of the set."
I confronted him about this.
1651
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:23,240
I called him up, and I said,
1652
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,480
"Randy, there's thousands of people
waiting to hear you sing that song.
1653
01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:30,160
"You just can't say, 'Fuck them.
I don't feel like it.'
1654
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:31,880
"Do you think I like singing
Take It Easy
1655
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:33,640
"and Peaceful Easy Feeling
every night?
1656
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,000
"I'm tired of those songs,
1657
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,880
"but there's people in the audience
who've been waiting
1658
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,960
"years to see us do those songs."
1659
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:45,000
We just got fed up with that
and just said, "OK, don't sing it.
1660
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:49,720
"Why don't you just quit?
You say you are unhappy, quit."
1661
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,400
Randy never knew how great he was.
He wasn't alpha.
1662
01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,200
Confrontations were really
hard for him.
1663
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,680
All I want to see is five guys
happy playing together, you know,
1664
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,080
and that's what makes the music.
1665
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,800
We were backstage
and the crowd was going wild.
1666
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,800
And our encore number was
Take It To The Limit.
1667
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,240
People loved that song,
they went crazy when
Randy hit those high notes.
1668
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,400
But Randy didn't want to do
the song that night.
1669
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,800
He'd been up partying all night
with a couple of girls
1670
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,880
and a bottle of vodka, and Glenn
kept trying to talk him into it.
1671
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,040
He said, "Man, the people want to
hear that song. You've got to do it."
1672
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,200
And Randy kept saying no.
1673
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,960
So after about the third or fourth
time that Randy refused, Glenn
1674
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,640
just backed up a couple of steps
and said, "Well, fuck you then!"
1675
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,440
There were police officers standing
backstage and when they saw us
1676
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:45,960
about to go at it,
they started to move in
1677
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:50,560
and Henley turned right to the cops
and said, "Stay out of this!
1678
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,280
"This is personal and it is private,
real fucking private!"
1679
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,280
The writing was on the wall
and Randy was going to leave.
1680
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:07,800
There was only one person to ever
replace Randy Meisner in the Eagles
1681
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,320
and in my mind it was
Timothy B Schmit.
1682
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:17,600
He replaced him in Poco, and plugged
in and sang the same parts.
1683
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,440
And I remember sitting with
Irving and saying, "Irving, I think
1684
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:26,680
"we should get Timothy Schmit."
He said, "Well, I just saw Timothy.
1685
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,440
"I was out on the road when the guys
in Poco were in the hotel bar
1686
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:33,000
"and Timothy was smashed
out of his mind, he was jacked up.
1687
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,800
"You sure about this?"
1688
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,960
I said, "Irving, if you had
been in a band for 11 years
1689
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,760
"and you were still making $250
a week working 40 weeks a year,
1690
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,720
"maybe you would be a little
smashed up yourself."
1691
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:49,600
They asked me to join their band
before I had even played
1692
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,560
a note of music with them.
1693
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,520
I just said, you know,
"Where do you want me? When?
1694
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,680
"I am definitely in."
1695
01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,120
We want to introduce you to the
newest member of our band.
1696
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,080
He is our new bass player and we got
him from a really fine band, Poco.
1697
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,520
Please give a nice Houston, Texas
welcome to Timothy Schmidt.
1698
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:08,880
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1699
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,640
I went on the road with them
in 1978 as the new guy.
1700
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:20,320
# Your smile is
a thin disguise... #
1701
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:26,000
And I heard a few, "Where is Randy?"
From the audience.
1702
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,080
But I knew it was a good
move for them and me.
1703
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:40,080
There were a lot of decisions
business-wise that needed to be made
1704
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:44,720
in a secret session, Glenn and Don
and Irving in the back of the plane.
1705
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,880
I didn't like that
I wasn't part of that,
1706
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:51,920
but I knew that it was
good for the Eagles.
1707
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:55,640
Don Felder REALLY did not like it.
1708
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,920
Glenn and I saw ourselves as the
leaders of the band
1709
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:02,080
but other people saw us dictators.
1710
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:06,800
You just cannot have five leaders
in a band. It does not work.
1711
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,520
People have to do what they do best.
1712
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:15,120
There is all this undercurrent
and resentment and plotting
1713
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:20,360
and complaining and I'm sure
Timothy thought,
"What have I got myself into?"
1714
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:24,200
I was just really happy to be there
and all these tensions, it is
1715
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,720
not that I did not feel it,
but I had no idea how deep it was.
1716
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,440
In my experience, all rock'n'roll
bands are on the verge of
1717
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:33,040
breaking up at all times.
1718
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:39,000
The band at that point had begun to
split up into factions.
1719
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:43,040
Don Felder, in an effort to gain
more control,
had co-opted Joe Walsh,
1720
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:47,360
so much of the time it was Felder
and Walsh against me and Glenn.
1721
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:51,000
And at that point, even Glenn
and I were beginning to
have our differences.
1722
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,680
It was tearing the band apart.
1723
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:57,560
The magic ingredient that made
the band successful was
1724
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,800
the relationship between
Don and Glenn.
1725
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:03,680
Through years of touring,
years in the studio, all of that
1726
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:08,160
friction really started driving a
wedge in between that relationship.
1727
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:14,160
It reached a point where we were
just tired of each other.
1728
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:19,760
Tired of the hoopla,
tired of touring,
tired of pretty much everything.
1729
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:23,480
At that point, song-writing was
becoming very difficult.
1730
01:45:23,480 --> 01:45:26,520
How much sleep did you guys get?
When did you get finished loading up?
1731
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,720
Two o'clock? 5.30.
530 this morning? Yeah. OK.
1732
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:35,640
After the success of
Hotel California -
Grammy winner, mega sales -
1733
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,200
top that, and we show up at the
studio and nobody has one song done.
1734
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:46,480
I don't know what
we will do first but...
1735
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:52,680
I had enough of a piece where they
both went "That's great.
1736
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,960
"Let's develop that," and I was
really pleased that they wanted to
1737
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:59,680
develop that one because it came out
more as an R&B song.
1738
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:04,600
And it is very simple.
1739
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:09,400
Very simple instrumentation,
very simple arrangement.
1740
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,240
There's a lot of air in it.
1741
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,240
That's why it works.
1742
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:27,760
# Look at us baby
Up all night
1743
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,160
# Tearing our love apart
1744
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:38,360
# Aren't we the same
two people who live... #
1745
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:43,160
About halfway through, Don comes up
to me and says, "There's your hit."
1746
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:51,680
# Every time I try to walk away
1747
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,120
# Something makes me
turn around and stay
1748
01:46:55,120 --> 01:47:00,640
# And I can't tell you why... #
1749
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:09,520
We are on top of the world. We are
young. We were overdoing everything.
1750
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,040
There was a lot of chemical
dependency going on within
1751
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,920
the band and that was rough.
1752
01:47:24,480 --> 01:47:28,280
During all of that time of writing
and recording The Long Run,
1753
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,960
and all the time on the road that
we were on the road doing
1754
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,480
The Long Run,
we were all using cocaine.
1755
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,320
When we first started snorting coke
it was like a writing tool.
1756
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,760
Do a couple of bumps and kind of
get started talking about stuff,
1757
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:47,120
get yourself going and launch
into some sort of idea for a song.
1758
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:51,360
But in the end, cocaine brought out
the worst in everybody.
1759
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,800
Yes, this half hour of the show is
brought to you by cocaine,
1760
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:57,120
the makers of hits.
1761
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,600
# In the long run
1762
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:07,600
# Ooh, I want to tell you
it's a long run... #
1763
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:11,880
Making that album was excruciating.
We were just completely burned out.
1764
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,200
We had driven ourselves really
hard for almost a decade
1765
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:16,720
and we were just fried.
1766
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,480
It was long too. I mean, the days
and hours would drag on, it would
1767
01:48:21,480 --> 01:48:24,080
feel like we were not
getting anything done.
1768
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,840
It was more painful than
Hotel California.
1769
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,040
It was more of a painful birth,
1770
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:40,120
because all the stuff was going on
and we were getting pretty frazzled.
1771
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:48,760
And the record company didn't care
if we farted and burped.
1772
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:55,040
They would put that out.
They didn't care.
1773
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:59,840
"When can we have it?" Because that
was their whole corporate quarter.
1774
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:02,360
# Who can go the distance?
1775
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:07,080
# We will find out
in the long run
1776
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,280
# In the long run... #
1777
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:14,120
At that point, we inked in
The Long Run as the title.
1778
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:19,160
I think Henley said, "I know what to
call this one. Look at us."
1779
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,440
# We can handle
some resistance... #
1780
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:23,480
MUSIC STOPS
1781
01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:25,960
Hold it. Stop.
1782
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,440
That is it.
1783
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,080
Eagles, The Long Run,
song two, take one.
1784
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:36,360
It was a struggle, an endless start,
stop, start, stop.
1785
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:37,960
We called it The Long One.
1786
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,600
It was the beginning of the end.
1787
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,080
Even though I don't think
I saw it right then.
1788
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:51,520
There were a lot of things
building up
1789
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,280
and a lot of things I tried to
overlook for the good of the band,
1790
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:58,800
and ultimately I just couldn't look
past some of this any more.
1791
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,280
And it festered because we didn't
talk about these things.
1792
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,840
It finally came to a head
in Long Beach.
1793
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:09,320
We were doing
a benefit for Senator Alan Cranston.
1794
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,680
He was concerned about a lot of some
of the same issues
1795
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,520
we were concerned about,
including environmental destruction
1796
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,520
and the war,
so we wanted to support him.
1797
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,160
Felder didn't like us doing benefits,
1798
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,040
he just thought that was money
that should be going into his pocket.
1799
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,880
"Why are we doing it for
Jerry Brown or anti-nukes?"
1800
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:31,080
# Are you willing to sacrifice? #
1801
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:36,280
Alan Cranston and his wife are coming
around to personally thank
1802
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,960
every member of the Eagles
for doing this.
1803
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:43,560
I was very uninformed about
politics, I could care less
1804
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:47,320
about politics, I didn't even know
or care who Alan Cranston was.
1805
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:50,720
Senator Cranston went up to Felder
and said,
1806
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,520
"I want to thank you," and Felder
looked at the Senator and said,
1807
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:57,080
"You're welcome," and then as he was
turning away he said, "I guess."
1808
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,440
"I guess."
1809
01:50:58,440 --> 01:51:01,480
"I guess." And Glenn heard it.
1810
01:51:01,480 --> 01:51:05,200
And I just...got really mad.
1811
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:08,400
I was drinking a long-necked Bud
and walked into the tuning room
1812
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,560
while Walsh and Felder was
and took the beer bottle
1813
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,600
and threw it against the wall
and smashed it.
1814
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,040
I stormed out.
1815
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:22,600
I got more mad and more mad.
By the time we went on stage,
I was seething.
1816
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,200
I wanted to kill Felder.
1817
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,720
Thank you again very much
from all the Eagles,
1818
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,880
and for Senator Cranston for coming
out here and checking it out.
1819
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:32,800
One, two, three, four.
1820
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:42,480
A lot of tensions between
Glenn and Felder
1821
01:51:42,480 --> 01:51:48,720
and the real manifestation of it
came that night.
1822
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:54,480
# Somebody is going to hurt someone
before the night is through... #
1823
01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:56,920
So now we are playing the show
1824
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,160
and trying to act like everything is
OK and we get through the songs,
1825
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:05,560
and I just keep looking over at him,
"You ungrateful son of a bitch."
1826
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,480
# There's going to be
a heartache tonight
1827
01:52:08,480 --> 01:52:11,160
# A heartache tonight, I know... #
1828
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:16,640
Just seeing that, I really saw how
serious it was at that show.
1829
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,440
They were fighting on stage,
there's audio of it.
1830
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:22,040
You are a real pro, Don, all the way.
1831
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:25,120
Yeah, you are too, the way
you handle people, except for
the people you pay.
1832
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:26,400
Nobody gives a shit about it.
1833
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,400
Fuck you, I have been paying
you for seven years, you fuckhead.
1834
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,240
So it starts getting towards
the end of the set
1835
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,920
and I am looking at him going,
"Three more songs, asshole."
1836
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,800
And I am looking at him
and I am ready to go.
1837
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,080
I can't wait to get my hands on him.
1838
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:47,000
"When we get off the stage,
I am going to kick your ass."
1839
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,440
Fucking kill you. I can't wait.
1840
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:56,840
Whoa! When that kind of stuff is on
stage and you're in front of people,
1841
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,440
you've got problems.
1842
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:05,280
Thank you very much.
1843
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:11,240
We got through the show and it just,
all hell broke loose backstage.
1844
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:16,760
When the set ended, he was out ahead
of me, took his cheapest guitar...
1845
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:27,320
..busted it in a million pieces,
jumped into his limousine
and drove off.
1846
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:33,400
And that was it. That was really the
straw that broke the camel's back.
1847
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:36,880
# Well, baby, there you stand... #
1848
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,920
Someone wrote the Eagles went out
with a whimper not a bang,
1849
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:48,480
which was true.
1850
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:56,560
# Oh, my God, I can't believe
it is happening again... #
1851
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:01,160
I didn't want to hear it. This was
like my super dream had come true.
1852
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:04,200
# And it looks like the end... #
1853
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:09,920
So I called Glen and I said, "What
is the status? What is going on?
1854
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,720
"Is this thing really broken up?"
He said, "Yeah, it is over."
1855
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:21,160
We were beat and it was really
affecting the foundational core,
1856
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:25,040
the soul of the band.
We hit the wall.
1857
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:28,240
You work, work, work,
you get up to a peak
1858
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:36,040
and then it is almost invariably
people head-butt and,
"Whose band is it?"
1859
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:39,840
And, "I am in charge." And, "No,
you are not." And there you go.
1860
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:48,200
# You never thought you'd be alone
this far down the line... #
1861
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,960
We had always said that we wanted to
step off the wave just before it
1862
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:53,840
crashed into the beach and we did.
1863
01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:02,360
# You're afraid it's all
been wasted time...
1864
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:11,320
# The autumn leaves have got
you thinking... #
1865
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:17,560
The Beatle guys say
they never thought,
McCartney never thought that
1866
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:22,000
band was going to last more than
two years, because no pop band did.
1867
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:24,840
I think it's part of it. It comes
together, it's magic
1868
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,800
and it falls apart.
1869
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:33,000
But how cool...
that it even happens at all.
1870
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:36,480
# I could have done
so many things, baby... #
1871
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:37,960
It was magical.
1872
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,560
# If I could only stop my mind... #
1873
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:44,000
They wrote a lot of great,
great songs that will be celebrated
1874
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,960
and listened to
and loved for a long time.
1875
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:54,880
We managed to represent that
period of time in the '70s,
1876
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:59,960
Southern California, which was
very artistically creative.
1877
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:08,760
I hope that is remembered
like the roaring '20s are, you know?
1878
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,560
Our generation and what we did.
1879
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:17,160
# ..You can get on
with your search, baby
1880
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:22,640
# And I can get on with mine
1881
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:28,840
# And maybe some day we will find
1882
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:36,640
# That it wasn't really
wasted time. #
1883
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:47,120
We set out to become a band for
our time, but sometimes
1884
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:51,320
if you do a good enough job,
you become a band for all time.
1885
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:16,280
# One of these nights
One of these crazy old nights
1886
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,960
# We're going to find out,
pretty mama... #
1887
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,760
A funny thing happened right
when we broke up.
1888
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:29,600
1980 is when the format
"classic rock" hit American radio.
1889
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:31,320
So, even though the band broke up,
1890
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,360
they kept playing our songs
all the time.
1891
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:37,280
It was like we never went away.
1892
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:38,840
We were still on the radio.
1893
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,400
# Well, I'm a-running down the road
Trying to loosen my load
1894
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:47,200
# I got seven women on my mind... #
1895
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,600
Somebody once told me people didn't
just listen to the Eagles.
1896
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,800
They did things to the Eagles.
1897
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:53,840
They went on fandangos
1898
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,880
and drove across the country with
three of their high-school buddies.
1899
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:00,360
# Take it easy... #
1900
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:02,400
People broke up
with their girlfriends.
1901
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:05,920
# Every time I try to walk away
1902
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:11,720
# Something makes me
turn around and stay...
1903
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:16,400
# Cos I'm al-l-l-lready gone
1904
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:23,560
# And I'm fee-e-e-eling strong... #
1905
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,640
People quit their jobs
or changed their lives.
1906
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,240
They did things to the Eagles.
1907
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,040
# Hey there, how are you?
1908
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,400
# It's been a long time... #
1909
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:39,760
Songs from that album have even
been played in outer space.
1910
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,480
And they used to pipe the music
up to the space shuttle to wake
1911
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,400
the astronauts up in the morning.
1912
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,760
'Shortly after having a breakfast
of steak and eggs and toast,
1913
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,920
'he then put on his space suit...'
1914
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,880
# And heroes,
they come and they go... #
1915
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:11,360
# He was a hard-headed man,
he was brutally handsome
1916
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,920
# She was terminally pretty...
1917
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,120
# On a dark desert highway
1918
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,520
# Cool wind in my hair... #
1919
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,120
That song has really gotten around.
1920
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,120
# ..Rising up through the air
1921
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:38,000
# Up ahead in the distance
1922
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,600
# Saw a shimmering light
1923
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,400
# Head grew heavy
and my sight grew dim
1924
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,600
# I had to stop for the night... #
1925
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,880
There's been a lot
of conjecture about how
1926
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:51,320
and why we got back together.
1927
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,960
We began to realise that
we'd been away for 14 years.
1928
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,560
Maybe we could have that rarest
of things in American life,
1929
01:59:57,560 --> 01:59:59,680
which is a second act.
1930
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:01,320
You know, a second chance.
1931
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,320
CHEERING
1932
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:13,160
Thank you.
1933
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,640
When we stopped, I was really sad.
1934
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,240
Like, "What are we going to do?"
1935
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,920
# I sleep all day, out all night
1936
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:29,400
# I know where you're going
1937
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:32,200
# I don't know, you act that way
1938
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,280
# You don't think it's showing... #
1939
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:38,600
I was pretty devastated.
1940
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,880
I had only been part of it
for barely three years,
1941
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,160
and I'd loved it.
1942
02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:50,120
# When we're hungry
Love will keep us alive... #
1943
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,760
We created this monster, and it
took its toll on all of our lives.
1944
02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:03,800
# Maybe some day we will find
1945
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:11,800
# That it wasn't really
wasted time... #
1946
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:17,320
Somebody was quoted as saying
the Eagles would get back together
1947
02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:19,600
when hell freezes over.
1948
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:21,800
So, hell froze over.
1949
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:28,280
# Mmm-m-m-mmm mm-mm-mmm. #
1950
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:37,240
WOMAN: We're all ready.
The gentleman in blue over there.
1951
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:39,680
After the acrimony
and the bitterness that marked
1952
02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:43,000
the demise of the band, it must
have been a long road to reunion.
1953
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,680
Can you just take us through
the steps that you went through
1954
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:47,640
on the road to reunification?
1955
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:52,120
No.
1956
02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:54,360
LAUGHTER
1957
02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,960
SCATTERED APPLAUSE
1958
02:01:59,960 --> 02:02:01,760
Anybody want that one?
1959
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:03,880
No, really, it's a fair question.
1960
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,880
From the time that
we disbanded in 1980,
1961
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:10,640
there were always offers on the
table for us to get back together.
1962
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,680
It started with
the first US Festival,
1963
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,360
and Steve Wozniak wanted to pay us
a million dollars.
1964
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:17,000
I said no.
1965
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:23,960
I needed to do something else.
1966
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:26,720
# The heat is on
1967
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:29,000
# It's on the street
1968
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,240
# The heat is... on! #
1969
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,920
I called my first solo album
No Fun Aloud because I was having
1970
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:39,160
so much fun.
1971
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:42,000
It was so liberating to know
that whatever I did
1972
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,920
was going to be more fun than what I
just did for the last three years on
1973
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,120
The Long Run album.
1974
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,520
I knew I wanted to have a
songwriting partner, so I
1975
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:54,080
asked my friend Jack Tempchin if he
wanted to write some songs together.
1976
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:57,480
And Jack's a very bright guy
lyrically,
1977
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,560
and so I started working with him.
1978
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:03,560
He had become a disciplined
co-writer with Don Henley,
1979
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,240
and when the Eagles broke up,
he just wanted to let go
1980
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,560
and have some fun with music,
you know?
1981
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:11,800
So we were fiddling around with
some grooves, and one of us said,
1982
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:13,280
"You belong to the city."
1983
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,720
And then we're going,
"Oh, yeah, yeah. That's it."
1984
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,160
# Cos you belong to the city
1985
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:23,400
# You belong to the night... #
1986
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,280
You just show up
and good things happen.
1987
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:34,120
# I make my living off
the evening news... #
1988
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:38,360
Henley's solo career was really,
really successful.
1989
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:43,520
Going solo was the scariest
part of my life.
1990
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:47,680
# All she wants to do
is dance, dance... #
1991
02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:50,720
The whole MTV thing was a difficult
transition for me to make.
1992
02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:52,280
You know, the Eagles, at one point,
1993
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:56,480
had been accused by some
critic of loitering onstage.
1994
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:59,640
So it was difficult for us
loiterers to make
1995
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:04,080
the transition to the world of
choreography and costume and acting.
1996
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:08,560
# She wants to party
She wants to get down... #
1997
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:10,800
Did I benefit from MTV? Yes, I did.
1998
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,560
You know, I made a couple of videos
that won some MTV awards.
1999
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,640
Nevertheless, I would just as soon
have skipped the whole thing,
2000
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:20,160
because I considered myself,
first and foremost, a songwriter
2001
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:21,880
and a recording artist.
2002
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,360
I didn't really want
to be an actor, too.
2003
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:28,280
Nice, huh?
2004
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:30,880
The guy who sold it to me
said it was a lemon.
2005
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:33,080
But I'm telling you,
it may look like a cow,
2006
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:34,600
but she runs like a stallion.
2007
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:40,360
I always like to take a good-bye
look at America.
2008
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:44,600
Just in case it's my last.
2009
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,120
I acted in television, in movies.
2010
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:52,200
I wasn't thinking about getting
back together with the Eagles.
2011
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:53,840
The guy's got an attitude problem.
2012
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:56,440
Yeah, well, he listens to me.
I can help you with that.
2013
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:58,040
'Cameron would call me up and say,
2014
02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:00,480
'"Glenn, I gotta find somebody
that's not going to take'
2015
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:02,960
"any shit off Tom Cruise,
and I think you're the guy."
2016
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,480
We have history, Dennis.
2017
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,560
Oh, yeah.
We got history all right, Jerry.
2018
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:09,440
No, no, no. No, no, no. Dennis!
Dennis! Dennis! Don't! Don't!
2019
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:13,400
# Nobody on the road
2020
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:15,480
# Nobody on the beach
2021
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:17,920
# I feel it in the air
2022
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:20,840
# The summer's out of reach... #
2023
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,840
I signed Don Henley
to Geffen Records.
2024
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:26,040
Now, you might say,
since the Eagles sued me
2025
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:28,800
at Asylum Records, why he did come
with me at Geffen Records?
2026
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,400
Well, David uses the same
pick up lines
2027
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:32,920
every time he comes a-courtin'.
2028
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,040
"You know how much
I care about you as an artist.
2029
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:36,920
"You know what a big fan
I am of yours."
2030
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:39,840
And so I bought it a second time
and I signed with him.
2031
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,560
And then things started to
fall apart.
2032
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:47,920
I produced several hits, but I could
feel the support somehow waning.
2033
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:52,640
Don got into arguments with them
over things like budgets,
2034
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:55,040
videos, artwork, things like that.
2035
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,800
I recall Don starting to write
letters to them
2036
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,120
referring to them as
"Nickel and Dime Records".
2037
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:02,320
When you feel like your label
is not supporting you,
2038
02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:04,000
it's completely deflating.
2039
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:05,880
I used to call him "Golden Throat".
2040
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:07,680
I thought he was
an incredible singer.
2041
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:13,000
But, by nature, he's a malcontent.
He's always been a malcontent.
2042
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,480
And, you know, that's just life.
2043
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:18,120
So I just said one day, "I'm not
going to record for you anymore.
2044
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:21,920
"I'm leaving." And so
he sued me for $30 million.
2045
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:25,640
# Happily ever after fails
2046
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:30,480
# We've been poisoned
by these fairy tales
2047
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:34,040
# The lawyers dwell on
small details... #
2048
02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:36,200
My wife has MS,
and they deposed her,
2049
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:37,840
dragged her all the way from Texas
2050
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:41,480
to Los Angeles to sit her down in
front of his attorneys and ask her
2051
02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:45,240
a bunch of pointless questions,
because she didn't know anything.
2052
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,320
I thought that was really low.
2053
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:50,800
I said to Irving
over the Henley contract,
2054
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:53,400
"I'd sooner die than let
you fuck me.
2055
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:55,240
"You'd better win this case."
2056
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:59,640
It was settled, you know, and that
was the end of that relationship.
2057
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:03,160
# Offer up your best defence
2058
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:06,400
# This is the end...
2059
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:10,720
# This is the end
2060
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:13,120
# Of the innocence. #
2061
02:07:13,120 --> 02:07:16,920
I've realised now that we have
adult rock stars.
2062
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:23,800
You don't have to give this up
when you turn 30 or 35 or 40.
2063
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:29,560
I'll always make records and
write songs. I've got to do them.
2064
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:30,800
Otherwise, I'd go nuts.
2065
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:47,360
This is a tune that was written
with my new friend Mike Campbell
2066
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:49,760
and my old friend
John David Souther.
2067
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:51,240
'When the band broke up,
2068
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:54,760
'Glenn started writing songs
with Jack Tempchin.
2069
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:56,480
'I guess the rift between Henley
2070
02:07:56,480 --> 02:08:00,400
'and Frey probably spread
to between Frey and me.'
2071
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,320
Glenn and I had had some
outrageously fun times together.
2072
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:06,440
And then Don and I
did for a decade or so.
2073
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:10,880
# Been trying to get down
to the heart of the matter
2074
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:17,320
# But my will gets weak
and my thoughts seem to scatter
2075
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:20,760
# But I think it's about forgiveness
2076
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:29,960
# Forgiveness, even if, even if,
you don't love me anymore. #
2077
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:33,000
How have you changed
as musicians over the years,
2078
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,280
both as a group and individually?
2079
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:39,600
Well, your whole mandate
is just to improve.
2080
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,520
You know, life is about improvement,
2081
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,680
whether it's as a musician or
as a singer or as a songwriter or
2082
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:48,040
just, you know, all the other
different hats we all wear.
2083
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:50,320
So, hopefully,
we're just getting better.
2084
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:52,880
We've been doing this quite
a long time now on and off,
2085
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,240
and we feel like we've got
it down pretty good.
2086
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:59,400
And, in fact, we've had five
days off, and we're ready to go now.
2087
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:03,680
When the Eagles first broke up,
2088
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:06,960
I wasn't quite sure what
I was going to do with myself.
2089
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:08,320
So I just hustled.
2090
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,320
I went just as a singer with Toto,
2091
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:13,200
I played bass for Jimmy Buffett,
I went out with Warren Zevon
2092
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:16,360
and Dan Fogelberg, and stuff
I wouldn't have necessarily done.
2093
02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:18,880
I sang on Poison records
and Twisted Sister,
2094
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:21,160
although you'll never see my name.
2095
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:22,800
They never gave me credit.
2096
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:24,800
That was more like yelling.
2097
02:09:26,440 --> 02:09:29,440
It's not all going to be the
greatest thing in the world.
2098
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:33,680
But if you can work and support
yourself and your family, it's good.
2099
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:37,360
WOMAN: OK, next question. Gentleman
in the front here, Richard.
2100
02:09:37,360 --> 02:09:40,160
What position do you think
rock'n'roll takes now about drugs?
2101
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:41,520
Oooh.
2102
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:43,440
SCATTERED TITTERS
2103
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:48,880
We came from a generation that
experimented with all kinds
2104
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:51,360
of substances, of course.
2105
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:55,880
I think our message is that...
you can be a damn good rock band
2106
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:57,520
without all that stuff.
2107
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:04,040
I'd like to propose a toast to
dedicate this song to you, to us.
2108
02:10:06,200 --> 02:10:09,880
The drinking man's musician,
Joe Walsh!
2109
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:11,800
CHEERING
2110
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:24,960
I ended up an alcoholic.
2111
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:31,040
And very fond of cocaine.
2112
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:38,280
If I was awake, I was...
2113
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:40,800
I was doing that stuff.
2114
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:44,560
Good morning, rock fans.
2115
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:49,560
'In the very early years,
it had briefly worked.'
2116
02:10:53,160 --> 02:10:59,640
And then you chase it
when it doesn't work anymore.
2117
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:01,800
And I chased it for years and years.
2118
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:11,760
# If you look at your reflection
2119
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:15,520
# In the bottom of the well
2120
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:21,200
# What you see is only on
the surface... #
2121
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:25,920
"Could Hemingway have written
like that if he was sober,
2122
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,560
"or could Hendrix have
played like that
2123
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:31,840
"if he didn't experiment
with hallucinogenics?
2124
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:33,840
"Well, probably not."
2125
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:38,240
I used that one for years and years,
and it never occurred to me
2126
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:40,360
that all those people are dead.
2127
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:43,640
They got further
and further away from reality.
2128
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:48,120
Should I look at you or the camera?
Look at me.
2129
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:56,120
I ended up...in bad shape.
2130
02:11:56,120 --> 02:12:00,000
# I wanna live with a cinnamon girl
2131
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:05,920
# I could be happy
the rest of my life
2132
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,640
# With a cinnamon girl
2133
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:15,840
# A dreamer of pictures
I run in the night... #
2134
02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:18,640
'I had hit bottom.'
2135
02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:24,120
And I knew that I was done
and that...
2136
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:30,120
..I would probably die
if I kept going.
2137
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:35,600
# Mom, send me money right now
I'm gonna make it somehow
2138
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,720
# I need another chance... #
2139
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,760
Joe was a mess.
2140
02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:45,000
He was around a bunch of people
that were really just enablers.
2141
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:46,440
Nobody wanted to intervene.
2142
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:50,720
Nobody wanted to tell him he had a
drug problem or a drinking problem.
2143
02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:54,360
Everybody was just
going along with Joe.
2144
02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:59,680
I remember what we all did
when it was an art form, you know?
2145
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:05,360
And I'd like to fight
to get it back to that.
2146
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:08,360
And I was very,
very happy in the Eagles.
2147
02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:11,400
I was just going to say I'm sorry
we broke up, but we didn't break up.
2148
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:12,880
We just stopped, I think.
2149
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,760
We just said, you know,
"The heck with the '80s."
2150
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:19,200
Song three, take six.
2151
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:23,560
In 1990, we tried to get
together to refuel it.
2152
02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:27,000
Everybody was in on that,
but Glenn wasn't involved yet.
2153
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:34,840
Irving got us together - Timothy,
Joe, myself, and Don Henley.
2154
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:37,120
Glenn was supposed to join us
in the studio,
2155
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:39,560
and he was going
to bring some songs in,
2156
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:41,840
and we were going to start
making another record.
2157
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:44,840
So, we started rehearsing,
the four of us, then we got a call,
2158
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:48,480
I think about the third or fourth
day in the studio, saying that
2159
02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:54,520
Glenn had refused to come be
part of it, to join the party.
2160
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:55,800
So we just stopped.
2161
02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:59,120
He was still, "I'm not doing this."
2162
02:13:59,120 --> 02:14:00,760
Well, you know,
to tell you the truth,
2163
02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:03,520
I was having a fine time
doing what I was doing.
2164
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:05,920
I mean, there's more to life
than being in the Eagles.
2165
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:07,920
The moment was always
going to be kind of
2166
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:09,680
when Glenn was ready to do it again.
2167
02:14:09,680 --> 02:14:12,200
I think Henley would have been
more willing than Glenn.
2168
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:15,120
For me, personally, I think
that I had proved pretty much
2169
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:18,720
everything that I needed to prove
in my solo career.
2170
02:14:18,720 --> 02:14:20,880
I had won a couple of Grammys
and had a few hits
2171
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:22,720
and some successful tours.
2172
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:25,320
And I had founded
the Walden Woods Project.
2173
02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:27,920
When you're a solo artist,
you have to take responsibility
2174
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:32,160
for everything - every mistake,
every bad record, every sour note.
2175
02:14:32,160 --> 02:14:33,560
But when you're in a band,
2176
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:36,280
you get to share the praise
and the blame with your bandmates.
2177
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:38,480
So, I was OK with
the notion of maybe going back
2178
02:14:38,480 --> 02:14:39,960
and being in a band again.
2179
02:14:43,320 --> 02:14:45,840
The thing that sort of turned my head
2180
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:48,200
was the release of the
Common Thread album.
2181
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:50,280
Irving and Don went to Nashville
2182
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:53,760
and they talked a bunch of people
into recording some Eagles songs,
2183
02:14:53,760 --> 02:14:56,400
with the royalties going
to the Walden Woods Project.
2184
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:59,760
# Well, I'm a-running down the road
trying to loosen my load... #
2185
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:01,480
I don't know who asked me,
but they said,
2186
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,760
"Travis Tritt's going to do
a video of Take It Easy
2187
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:07,120
"and he wants to know
if you guys will be in the video."
2188
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:09,920
I said, "Well, OK."
2189
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:13,360
# Take it easy
2190
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:15,880
# Take it easy... #
2191
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,480
Never really talked to Travis
about whose idea it was.
2192
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:22,320
I think Irving probably had
a hand in that whole thing.
2193
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:25,200
Was I trying to put the band back
together by doing Common Thread?
2194
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:26,720
No.
2195
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:28,920
Was I waiting for the moment? Yeah.
2196
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:33,320
# ..Understand,
just find a place to make your stand
2197
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:37,400
# Take it easy... #
2198
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:42,600
In the Travis Tritt video, there
was a little bandstand scene
2199
02:15:42,600 --> 02:15:45,760
and we all picked up our
instruments and started playing.
2200
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:49,960
I was thinking, "Guys, come on!"
You know?
2201
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:52,880
'You know, it's interesting -
after years pass, you know,
2202
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:56,120
'you really sort of remember
that you were friends first.
2203
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:58,720
'You have a lot of common
history together
2204
02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:01,040
'and a lot of shared experiences.'
2205
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:04,040
I remembered mostly the good stuff.
2206
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:06,840
I didn't really
think about the bad stuff.
2207
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:09,600
I just remembered how much
we genuinely had liked each other
2208
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:11,160
and how much fun we'd had.
2209
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,480
We realised, after the success
of the Common Thread album
2210
02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:19,440
that there were still
a lot of people out there -
2211
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:22,480
a whole lot of people -
who wanted to see us play again.
2212
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:24,960
You know, sometimes there's
a little bit of serendipity
2213
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:28,120
involved in this, and I think what
happened is everybody's life
2214
02:16:28,120 --> 02:16:34,040
started to line up in a way that
now it made sense for all of us.
2215
02:16:34,040 --> 02:16:37,680
And we discussed it.
2216
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:41,440
Joe and Don came up and sat in
at a benefit that I did in Aspen.
2217
02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:43,520
'We had a meeting in Aspen.'
2218
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:48,880
I was one of the first guys
that they wanted to try it out on.
2219
02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:52,120
You know, Joe was buzzed.
It was 1.00 in the afternoon.
2220
02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:56,240
You know, and he would say,
"Hey, I'm there, man. I'm fine.
2221
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:58,120
"Don't worry about me."
2222
02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:04,760
But Don and I could both tell that
he wasn't fine, and we were worried.
2223
02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:06,440
They said what they wanted to do.
2224
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:09,600
They wanted to try it,
get back together again.
2225
02:17:09,600 --> 02:17:12,840
They didn't know what I would say,
but I said,
2226
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:17,080
"I understand,
and, yeah, I can get sober."
2227
02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:24,840
# Somewhere along the way
I found the meaning
2228
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:27,800
# Woke up dreaming
2229
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:31,280
# Along the way
2230
02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:38,920
# Never quite seems the same
when you awaken
2231
02:17:40,640 --> 02:17:46,160
# And making up for the time
is such a price to pay
2232
02:17:47,680 --> 02:17:52,640
# Then they take the dream away
and it just ain't fair... #
2233
02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:57,520
We had to get Joe into some
sort of rehab,
2234
02:17:57,520 --> 02:18:00,440
and we couldn't be sure
it was going to work.
2235
02:18:00,440 --> 02:18:02,080
So we'd better have Felder.
2236
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:05,440
The Eagles reunion had better have
at least one of the two of them,
2237
02:18:05,440 --> 02:18:07,080
and hopefully both.
2238
02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:09,960
Irving called me up
and said that Don and Glenn
2239
02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:13,080
and Joe had gotten together,
and they were talking about doing
2240
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:15,440
something, and would
I be interested in doing it?
2241
02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:17,320
I said, "Absolutely."
2242
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:22,320
One thing led to another,
and finally Irving
2243
02:18:22,320 --> 02:18:25,480
and Don Felder picked him up
and drove him to rehab.
2244
02:18:27,320 --> 02:18:31,040
I made a commitment to them
that I would clean up...
2245
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:36,960
..and that I would be in the band...
2246
02:18:39,080 --> 02:18:41,360
..if that's what they wanted to do.
2247
02:18:41,360 --> 02:18:44,720
# So help me through the night
2248
02:18:44,720 --> 02:18:49,920
# Help me to ease the pain... #
2249
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:53,720
I'm really, really grateful
to those three guys...
2250
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:56,240
# Tell me it's all right... #
2251
02:18:56,240 --> 02:19:03,920
..because I had...
a really good reason to get sober.
2252
02:19:05,880 --> 02:19:11,800
And as soon as I got sober,
we started rehearsals.
2253
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:32,760
# He was a hard-headed man
He was brutally handsome
2254
02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:36,600
# She was terminally pretty
2255
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:42,320
# She held him up,
and he held her for ransom
2256
02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:45,960
# In the heart of the cold, cold city
2257
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:51,240
# He had a nasty
reputation as a cruel dude
2258
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:54,840
# They said he was ruthless,
they said he was crude... #
2259
02:19:54,840 --> 02:19:57,440
From that first phone call
from Irving
2260
02:19:57,440 --> 02:20:00,720
to showing up on a rehearsal stage
to start putting together
2261
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:04,520
a show for MTV was only
a matter of weeks, if not a month.
2262
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:09,280
# Life in the fast lane
Surely make you lose your mind... #
2263
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:14,440
'It was a little scary
rehearsing for the MTV thing.
2264
02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:18,680
'Normally, I think people would
have their act down a few weeks,
2265
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:21,760
'at least, before entering
into something like that,
2266
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:25,120
'but we just dove in headfirst.'
2267
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:37,240
'Well, even though
we had rehearsed really well,
2268
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:39,640
'for the first time to walk out
on stage and actually
2269
02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:43,840
'play as a band in public and kind of
put the key back into the ignition
2270
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:47,800
'and turn it over for the first time,
it was really a lot of nerves.'
2271
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:52,240
Are we going the right way? Glenn.
2272
02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:55,120
'Not having played as a group
in 14 years, the first night,
2273
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:57,040
'there was a lot of terror.'
2274
02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:01,480
Gentlemen, good to be with ya.
Hope I'm with ya all night!
2275
02:21:01,480 --> 02:21:02,640
LAUGHTER
2276
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:06,400
Have a good one, OK? OK.
Showtime! Showtime! Showtime!
2277
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:08,440
CHEERING
2278
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:19,440
'The audience was very kind,
and they were with us.
2279
02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:23,400
'And that was good,
but it was rough.'
2280
02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:26,640
# Just another day in paradise
2281
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:31,440
# You stumble to your bed
2282
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:36,560
# You'd give anything to silence
2283
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:41,760
# Those voices ringing in your head
2284
02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:47,160
# You thought you could
find happiness
2285
02:21:49,040 --> 02:21:51,880
# Just over that green hill
2286
02:21:53,880 --> 02:21:56,960
# You thought you would be satisfied
2287
02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:01,440
# But you never will. #
2288
02:22:01,440 --> 02:22:05,080
'Even when we went onstage,
we were definitely a little tight.
2289
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:07,840
'Until, I think,
Henley forgot the words
2290
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:10,240
'to one of the new songs...'
2291
02:22:20,360 --> 02:22:22,560
You want to start again?
2292
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:24,440
I'll tell you what.
2293
02:22:24,440 --> 02:22:29,360
This is television, so
we get to do this till we're happy.
2294
02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:33,560
I thought... Now, I thought you
didn't remember the third verse.
2295
02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:35,880
That was only the second verse!
I know.
2296
02:22:35,880 --> 02:22:38,080
I know the third verse.
2297
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:39,960
'That was sort of the icebreaker,
though.
2298
02:22:39,960 --> 02:22:41,560
'That was a good thing, ultimately.'
2299
02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:43,320
I feel like Tommy Smothers.
2300
02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:45,640
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
2301
02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:52,160
We didn't think getting back
together was quite as legitimate
2302
02:22:52,160 --> 02:22:53,920
unless we had some new material,
2303
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:57,080
so we're going to put forth several
new songs for you this evening.
2304
02:22:57,080 --> 02:22:59,480
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
2305
02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:02,440
This first one Timothy B Schmit
is going to sing for you.
2306
02:23:02,440 --> 02:23:05,440
This is called
Love Will Keep Us Alive.
2307
02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:07,880
# I was standing
2308
02:23:07,880 --> 02:23:13,160
# All alone against the world outside
2309
02:23:15,520 --> 02:23:18,160
# You were searching
2310
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:23,080
# For a place to hide
2311
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:27,680
# Lost and lonely
2312
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:32,480
# Now you've given me
the will to survive
2313
02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:41,480
# When we're hungry,
love will keep us alive... #
2314
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:47,400
After selling 100 million records
worldwide, was it real pressure
2315
02:23:47,400 --> 02:23:51,320
on you to write the new material
for the Hell Freezes Over album?
2316
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:56,920
We didn't really look at it
as a body of new work.
2317
02:23:56,920 --> 02:24:00,360
It was more of a retrospective
piece of material.
2318
02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:03,920
And we look forward to writing some
new material, perhaps in the future.
2319
02:24:03,920 --> 02:24:06,560
We can't keep recycling
this material,
2320
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:08,800
although it seems to be
working just fine.
2321
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:10,320
LAUGHTER
2322
02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:17,080
Don and I were trying to figure out
how to write another song,
2323
02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:19,240
and, I mean, really, if we could.
2324
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:22,000
We hadn't written anything
together since, like, '78.
2325
02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:25,640
So it was a little awkward at first,
just getting back into the groove.
2326
02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:28,600
Yeah. So, we go, one...
2327
02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:31,240
OK, here we are
starting out at one, two...
2328
02:24:31,240 --> 02:24:32,760
During The Long Run album,
2329
02:24:32,760 --> 02:24:36,120
there were a lot of sessions with
Don and I where nothing got done.
2330
02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:38,240
We were both a little bit
reticent to introduce
2331
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:40,760
our ideas for fear
that they weren't good enough.
2332
02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:45,160
So when we sat down to do it
again in '94, my first worry was,
2333
02:24:45,160 --> 02:24:48,160
"Is it going to be as hard
as it was in 1978?"
2334
02:24:50,120 --> 02:24:53,120
We were sitting around, "What are
we going to write about?" and stuff.
2335
02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:56,760
And he said, "Well, I've got this
one title, Get Over It."
2336
02:24:56,760 --> 02:24:59,760
And he sort of proceeded to tell me
what it was that was
2337
02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:03,240
pissing him off -
all these people going on television
2338
02:25:03,240 --> 02:25:06,520
and everything that's wrong
with them is somebody else's fault.
2339
02:25:06,520 --> 02:25:09,120
"I'm just sick of all this whining,
2340
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:11,800
"and so I'm going to write a song
called Get Over It."
2341
02:25:11,800 --> 02:25:17,160
The intro, straight Chuck Berry.
Never play a seventh, right?
2342
02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:21,920
So, then I said, "I think
2343
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:25,320
"maybe a Chuck Berry riff would be
a good way to tell that story."
2344
02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:28,360
Time out.
Do you want to play the...?
2345
02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:30,560
You want to do it on slide?
2346
02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:33,240
And then Felder and I will just
play power chords low and high.
2347
02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:35,800
And those guys will play
Chuck Berry low and high.
2348
02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:38,680
And we can do # Get over it. #
2349
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:41,680
A couple little of them
slide answer licks is cool.
2350
02:25:41,680 --> 02:25:46,160
My favourite thing is when Don
and Glenn co-write stuff.
2351
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:48,640
I like to play guitar to that.
2352
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:11,680
You want me to sing it, or do
you want to wait? It's ten to six.
2353
02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:15,120
You can sing it
at ten to six or five to six.
2354
02:26:15,120 --> 02:26:17,880
Do it again? Yeah,
we'll do it twice.
2355
02:26:17,880 --> 02:26:20,200
Yeah, you could write it
in to the mic.
2356
02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:22,280
LAUGHTER
2357
02:26:22,280 --> 02:26:24,320
Captioned for hard of hearing.
2358
02:26:30,360 --> 02:26:32,760
'It was really liberating.'
2359
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:37,000
We both walked out of the session
and went, "God, we can still do it.
2360
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:39,280
"I can't believe it.
We just wrote a song together.
2361
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:40,800
"Maybe we can write some more."
2362
02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:42,800
# Turn on the tube and what do I see?
2363
02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:45,640
# A whole lotta people crying,
"Don't blame me"... #
2364
02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:47,920
That was a really good feeling.
2365
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:51,680
It was a great sort of artistic
reconciliation for us
2366
02:26:51,680 --> 02:26:54,160
to have been able to sit down
and write that song together.
2367
02:26:57,440 --> 02:26:58,680
# Get over it!
2368
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,680
# Get over it!
2369
02:27:02,680 --> 02:27:06,000
# All this bitching and moaning
and pitching a fit
2370
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:08,760
# Get over it! Get over it! #
2371
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:27,920
Get over it!
2372
02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:29,720
APPLAUSE
2373
02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:36,520
We did Hell Freezes Over, and
then we went out on the road.
2374
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:43,040
That was the question
on everyone's mind -
2375
02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:46,080
what if we got back together,
and no one showed up?
2376
02:27:51,280 --> 02:27:55,600
# What kind of love have you got?
2377
02:27:57,280 --> 02:28:01,200
# You should be home but you're not
2378
02:28:02,960 --> 02:28:06,480
# A room full of noise
and dangerous boys
2379
02:28:08,560 --> 02:28:12,200
# Still make you thirsty
and hot... #
2380
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:15,520
'We set it up to be
a three-month reunion.
2381
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:18,680
'I went back to my wife, and
I had two young kids at the time.'
2382
02:28:18,680 --> 02:28:21,360
I said, "I don't know
if you're going to recognise me.
2383
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:24,440
"I don't know what this is
going to do to me.
2384
02:28:24,440 --> 02:28:28,480
"But I hope I don't change too much.
Hang in there with me."
2385
02:28:28,480 --> 02:28:31,120
# Tell all your girlfriends
2386
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:34,080
# Your "been around the world"
friends
2387
02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:37,680
# Talk is for losers and fools
2388
02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:44,800
# Victim of love,
I see a broken heart
2389
02:28:46,280 --> 02:28:49,480
# I could be wrong but I'm not
2390
02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:55,400
# Victim of love,
we're not so far apart
2391
02:28:55,400 --> 02:28:59,600
# What kind of love have you got? #
2392
02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:04,000
I was on the side of the stage
once at one of their shows
2393
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:08,080
when they first got back together,
and Jack Nicholson was
2394
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:12,760
euphoric listening to this band
play again, you know?
2395
02:29:12,760 --> 02:29:17,160
And he said... "Repertoire."
2396
02:29:18,960 --> 02:29:20,320
What do you want to hear?
2397
02:29:20,320 --> 02:29:23,480
# One of these nights
2398
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:26,840
ALL: # One of these
crazy old nights! #
2399
02:29:28,760 --> 02:29:31,720
# One of these nights... #
2400
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:35,680
We didn't know how many people
were going to show up for us
2401
02:29:35,680 --> 02:29:38,440
to reunite,
but people came out in droves.
2402
02:29:45,320 --> 02:29:47,960
# Somebody's gonna hurt someone
2403
02:29:47,960 --> 02:29:50,920
# Before the night is through... #
2404
02:29:50,920 --> 02:29:53,080
We were sold out everywhere.
2405
02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:56,120
Audiences were having
a fabulous time.
2406
02:29:56,120 --> 02:29:57,560
We were having a good time, too.
2407
02:29:57,560 --> 02:30:00,600
# There's gonna be
a heartache tonight
2408
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:02,920
# A heartache tonight, I know
2409
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:08,480
# Gonna be a heartache tonight
2410
02:30:08,480 --> 02:30:11,240
# A heartache tonight, I know
2411
02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:13,920
# Oh, I know. #
2412
02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:33,840
Heartache, baby!
2413
02:30:38,520 --> 02:30:41,160
I listened to the guys,
and Joe Walsh, for example,
2414
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:44,240
is playing better and singing better
than I've ever heard him
2415
02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:46,440
play in his life
since I've known him.
2416
02:30:47,880 --> 02:30:50,880
# Hi there, how are ya?
2417
02:30:50,880 --> 02:30:53,760
# It's been a long time
2418
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:56,880
I didn't have time to
really sit around
2419
02:30:56,880 --> 02:31:03,040
and miss alcohol or cold turkey
for more cocaine or anything.
2420
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:06,520
And I had to go in front of people
2421
02:31:06,520 --> 02:31:10,960
and play and sing sober,
2422
02:31:10,960 --> 02:31:13,880
which I hated, at first.
2423
02:31:13,880 --> 02:31:15,320
Ooh, that was scary.
2424
02:31:15,320 --> 02:31:22,040
# Why do we give up
our hearts to the past?
2425
02:31:22,040 --> 02:31:23,800
# Yeah
2426
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:29,840
# And why must we grow up so fast?
2427
02:31:31,960 --> 02:31:36,120
# Oooh-oooh ooh-h
2428
02:31:47,720 --> 02:31:55,240
# And all you wishing well fools
with your fortunes
2429
02:31:57,040 --> 02:32:02,840
# Someone should send you a rose
2430
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:07,600
# With love from a friend
2431
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,960
# Nice to hear from you again
2432
02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:16,680
# And the storybook comes to a close
2433
02:32:19,160 --> 02:32:23,920
# Gone are the ribbons and bows
2434
02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:33,040
# Things to remember, places to go
2435
02:32:34,520 --> 02:32:38,400
# Pretty maids all in a row
2436
02:32:39,800 --> 02:32:43,440
# All in a row. #
2437
02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:51,080
When Joe first got out of rehab
and we started rehearsing,
2438
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:53,320
he was still pretty dark.
2439
02:32:53,320 --> 02:32:56,440
But over the course of that
first year getting sober, I think
2440
02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:59,000
he found happiness again.
2441
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:00,800
He found a way to be happy.
2442
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:10,040
You look very pretty.
2443
02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:13,000
It's OK. Once more.
Oh, now, are you ready?
2444
02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:15,040
Father, daughter, take one.
2445
02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:19,840
We got that family thing
to ground us all now.
2446
02:33:19,840 --> 02:33:23,520
It's really sort of our common
thread. We've all got kids.
2447
02:33:23,520 --> 02:33:28,840
It changes your life and your
perspective on your work, as well.
2448
02:33:40,440 --> 02:33:43,680
So, the tour was so enormously
successful that we sort of
2449
02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:46,200
didn't want to give that up,
you know?
2450
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:49,440
It's like, "OK, this is good.
I could do this for a while."
2451
02:33:49,440 --> 02:33:51,800
# Harry got up
2452
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:55,240
# Dressed all in black
2453
02:33:57,080 --> 02:33:58,920
# Went down to the station
2454
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:02,320
# And he never came back
2455
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:06,240
# They found his clothing
2456
02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:09,600
# Scattered somewhere down the track
2457
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:16,600
# And he won't be down on
Wall Street in the morning
2458
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:19,840
# In a New York minute
2459
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:24,040
# Ooh-h-h-h
2460
02:34:24,040 --> 02:34:27,160
# Everything can change
In a New York minute
2461
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:30,200
# Ooh-h-h-h
2462
02:34:30,200 --> 02:34:32,280
# Things can get pretty strange... #
2463
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:34,880
Doing a concert is a strange
combination of conscious
2464
02:34:34,880 --> 02:34:36,240
and subconscious acts.
2465
02:34:36,240 --> 02:34:38,480
You're not really
thinking about what you're doing
2466
02:34:38,480 --> 02:34:40,800
because you know it so well,
you're just doing it.
2467
02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:43,200
On the other hand, you have
to put some emotion into it.
2468
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:45,200
When you've got a crowd
that's cheering you on,
2469
02:34:45,200 --> 02:34:48,200
doesn't matter how many times you've
sung the song. You just do it.
2470
02:34:48,200 --> 02:34:51,080
# Lying in the darkness
2471
02:34:51,080 --> 02:34:53,800
# Hear the sirens wail
2472
02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:58,360
# Somebody's going to emergency
2473
02:34:58,360 --> 02:35:00,760
# Somebody's going to jail
2474
02:35:00,760 --> 02:35:05,560
# If you find somebody to
love in this world
2475
02:35:05,560 --> 02:35:07,760
# You better hang on tooth and nail
2476
02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:14,040
# The wolf is always at the door
2477
02:35:16,280 --> 02:35:18,000
# In a New York minute
2478
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:21,600
# Ooh-ohh-ohh
2479
02:35:21,600 --> 02:35:25,040
# Everything can change
In a New York minute
2480
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:28,800
# Ooh-ohh-ohh
2481
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:32,400
# Things can get a little strange
In a New York minute
2482
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:35,280
# Ooh-ohh-ohh... #
2483
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:38,480
We've played all over the world,
and, probably,
2484
02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:41,400
if we could write the script,
it was probably a genius move.
2485
02:35:41,400 --> 02:35:43,960
Cos when we come back,
it's bigger than ever.
2486
02:35:43,960 --> 02:35:47,920
How much money do you expect
to gross with this European tour?
2487
02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:49,880
Irving?
2488
02:35:49,880 --> 02:35:53,000
I actually haven't added it up, but
I will tell you that... Good answer.
2489
02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:54,880
LAUGHTER
2490
02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:59,680
One thing, the costs of being
a touring rock'n'roll band
2491
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:03,680
in Europe are beyond our
wildest imaginations, but this
2492
02:36:03,680 --> 02:36:07,840
band is here in Europe because
there was demand for us to be here.
2493
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:11,080
And it's not nearly as lucrative
as anything we've done before.
2494
02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:15,080
It isn't?
2495
02:36:15,080 --> 02:36:17,040
LAUGHTER
2496
02:36:21,640 --> 02:36:24,240
Offers started coming in for us
to do more shows,
2497
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:26,320
and I just sort of said,
"Well, book some more.
2498
02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:28,600
"It doesn't have to end now.
Book some more.
2499
02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:31,200
"Where else can we play?"
"Well, you haven't been in Europe."
2500
02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:32,600
"Well, let's go there."
2501
02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:36,760
# Well, I heard some people talking
just the other day
2502
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:43,000
# And they said you were gonna
put me on a shelf
2503
02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:47,960
# Let me tell you
I got some news for you
2504
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:51,240
# And you'll soon find out it's true
2505
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:56,560
# Then you'll have to eat your lunch
all by yourself
2506
02:36:58,480 --> 02:37:03,440
# Cos I'm al-l-l-lready gone
2507
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:09,360
# And I'm fee-e-eling strong
2508
02:37:11,640 --> 02:37:15,960
# I will si-i-i-ng
this victory song... #
2509
02:37:15,960 --> 02:37:17,960
How's it go?
2510
02:37:17,960 --> 02:37:23,120
# Hoo-hoo-hoo! My, my, hoo-hoo-hoo
2511
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:24,800
GUITAR SOLO
2512
02:37:38,080 --> 02:37:42,600
# Well, I know it wasn't
you who held me down... #
2513
02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:45,240
'We had drawn a
line in the sand and said,'
2514
02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:47,960
"No drugs or alcohol during any
band activities."
2515
02:37:47,960 --> 02:37:52,320
And, as a result, we're playing
and singing pretty damn good.
2516
02:37:52,320 --> 02:37:57,360
# So often times it happens that we
live our lives in chains... #
2517
02:37:57,360 --> 02:38:00,240
'I think the thing that brings them
together is the harmony.'
2518
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:04,080
When they start hearing that and how
seamless and how perfect, they
2519
02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:07,720
get as thrilled as the audiences do,
that, "We can still do this."
2520
02:38:07,720 --> 02:38:10,600
THEY HARMONISE
2521
02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:20,520
# Ooh-ooh-ooh
2522
02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:29,040
# Ooh-ooh-ooh... #
2523
02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:33,920
We can't really understand it.
It's just the chemistry that works.
2524
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:37,960
And we gave up trying to
understand it. It just works.
2525
02:38:37,960 --> 02:38:40,280
We're just going to do one verse
of New Kid.
2526
02:38:40,280 --> 02:38:43,600
One verse of New Kid. OK.
Joe's singing Smuggler's Blues.
2527
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:46,440
OK. I'll just do
the beginning of Funk 49.
2528
02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:50,040
And then I'm going to go pee.
Yeah. Then I'll go pee.
2529
02:38:50,040 --> 02:38:51,960
One, two, three.
2530
02:38:53,840 --> 02:38:55,840
CHEERING
2531
02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:11,960
# Well, I'm a-running down the road
trying to loosen my load
2532
02:39:11,960 --> 02:39:14,560
# I got seven women on my mind
2533
02:39:15,960 --> 02:39:19,240
# Four that want to own me,
two that want to stone me
2534
02:39:19,240 --> 02:39:21,760
# One says she's a friend of mine
2535
02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:24,800
# Take it easy
2536
02:39:25,880 --> 02:39:28,640
# Take it easy
2537
02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:33,960
# Don't let the sound of your own
wheels drive you crazy
2538
02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:39,120
# Lighten up while you still can
2539
02:39:39,120 --> 02:39:42,440
# Don't even try to understand
2540
02:39:42,440 --> 02:39:45,320
# Just find a place to
make your stand
2541
02:39:45,320 --> 02:39:48,360
# And take it easy
2542
02:39:53,560 --> 02:39:56,760
# Well, I'm a-standing on a corner
in Winslow, Arizona
2543
02:39:56,760 --> 02:39:59,400
# Such a fine sight to see
2544
02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:03,760
# It's a girl, my Lord,
in a flat-bed Ford
2545
02:40:03,760 --> 02:40:06,880
# Slowin' down to take a look at me
2546
02:40:06,880 --> 02:40:09,320
# Well, come on, baby
2547
02:40:09,320 --> 02:40:11,720
# Don't say maybe
2548
02:40:13,400 --> 02:40:18,320
# I've gotta know
if your sweet love is gonna save me
2549
02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:22,880
# We may lose and we may win
2550
02:40:22,880 --> 02:40:26,480
# Though we will never be here again
2551
02:40:26,480 --> 02:40:29,800
# So open up, I'm climbing in
2552
02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:33,280
# So take it easy... #
2553
02:40:33,280 --> 02:40:35,160
All right, boys!
2554
02:40:35,160 --> 02:40:38,480
'We ended up going all around
the world in about two years
2555
02:40:38,480 --> 02:40:40,600
'and nine months.'
2556
02:40:40,600 --> 02:40:45,520
# Well, you know we got it ea-a-a-asy
2557
02:40:47,720 --> 02:40:52,120
# We oughta take it ea-a-a-a-asy. #
2558
02:40:58,400 --> 02:41:01,440
Thank you, Dublin!
2559
02:41:01,440 --> 02:41:03,680
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
2560
02:41:07,400 --> 02:41:12,280
We've learned not to make career
decisions at the end of long tours.
2561
02:41:12,280 --> 02:41:14,600
If we break up again, though,
you won't hear about it.
2562
02:41:14,600 --> 02:41:18,320
We'll just go quietly. And we'll say
we're still together. Yeah!
2563
02:41:18,320 --> 02:41:21,120
LAUGHTER
2564
02:41:21,120 --> 02:41:24,840
They've laughed, cried, fought,
but, most of all,
2565
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:28,720
they have beaten the odds
and are as popular today
2566
02:41:28,720 --> 02:41:32,800
as they were in that
incredible summer back in 1972.
2567
02:41:32,800 --> 02:41:36,160
It is an honour and a pleasure
to introduce the Eagles.
2568
02:41:36,160 --> 02:41:38,160
APPLAUSE
2569
02:41:41,480 --> 02:41:44,360
A lot has been talked about
and speculated about over
2570
02:41:44,360 --> 02:41:48,000
the last 27 years about
whether or not we got along.
2571
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:51,400
We got along fine.
We just disagreed a lot.
2572
02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:56,280
I was not in the trenches with
this particular band,
2573
02:41:56,280 --> 02:42:00,200
so I'd like to thank my predecessor,
Randy Meisner, for being there.
2574
02:42:00,200 --> 02:42:04,280
'I'm glad that Randy
and Bernie got recognised.'
2575
02:42:04,280 --> 02:42:06,160
I think that's appropriate.
2576
02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:10,200
Hey, how you doin'?
2577
02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:13,680
It's a good feeling.
Looks good on my resume.
2578
02:42:15,080 --> 02:42:17,280
HE CHUCKLES
2579
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:20,680
I'd really like to thank Don
and Glenn for writing those songs.
2580
02:42:20,680 --> 02:42:25,160
Thank you, guys. It makes my job
real easy. Thank you!
2581
02:42:25,160 --> 02:42:27,360
APPLAUSE
2582
02:42:28,680 --> 02:42:30,560
Charming outfit, Joe.
2583
02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:32,600
I'd like to, again,
2584
02:42:32,600 --> 02:42:36,320
thank Don Henley and Glenn Frey for
writing an incredible body of work
2585
02:42:36,320 --> 02:42:40,360
that's propelled this band through
20-some-odd years' worth of life.
2586
02:42:40,360 --> 02:42:41,720
Thank you, guys.
2587
02:42:41,720 --> 02:42:44,920
When a kid first picks up
a guitar or a drumstick,
2588
02:42:44,920 --> 02:42:46,560
it's not really to be famous.
2589
02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:48,920
It's because that kid
wants to fit in somewhere,
2590
02:42:48,920 --> 02:42:54,280
he wants to be accepted,
and he wants to be understood, even.
2591
02:42:54,280 --> 02:42:59,040
And so, I like to think of this
award as something that is
2592
02:42:59,040 --> 02:43:03,760
acknowledging us not for being
famous, but for doing the work.
2593
02:43:03,760 --> 02:43:07,160
And I appreciate all the work that
all these guys behind me have done.
2594
02:43:07,160 --> 02:43:09,160
I want to thank Irving Azoff,
2595
02:43:09,160 --> 02:43:11,560
without whom
we wouldn't be here today.
2596
02:43:11,560 --> 02:43:13,880
APPLAUSE
2597
02:43:13,880 --> 02:43:17,080
As I've said before, he may be
Satan, but he's our Satan.
2598
02:43:18,520 --> 02:43:21,040
We're in a dog-eat-dog business.
2599
02:43:21,040 --> 02:43:24,400
Show me anybody that's going to be
responsible for guiding or
2600
02:43:24,400 --> 02:43:27,720
managing an artist's career
that's made too many friends,
2601
02:43:27,720 --> 02:43:29,680
and I'm going to show you somebody
2602
02:43:29,680 --> 02:43:32,280
that's sold out their artist
and done a crappy job.
2603
02:43:32,280 --> 02:43:37,320
So, I was quite proud of Henley's
reference of what he said.
2604
02:43:37,320 --> 02:43:41,160
It was more or less, for me,
a validation of a job well done.
2605
02:43:41,160 --> 02:43:44,920
A lot of my job was trying to keep
the band from breaking up.
2606
02:43:44,920 --> 02:43:49,120
In the '70s, we formed a corporation
called Eagles, Limited.
2607
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:51,360
And that was all-for-one
and one-for-all.
2608
02:43:52,680 --> 02:43:54,680
Well, it wasn't
the three musketeers.
2609
02:43:54,680 --> 02:43:59,840
As our friend JD Souther used to
say, "Time passes, things change."
2610
02:43:59,840 --> 02:44:02,680
In talking with Irving about
putting the Eagles back
2611
02:44:02,680 --> 02:44:06,240
together in 1994, I said,
"Irving, I'm not going to do it
2612
02:44:06,240 --> 02:44:09,040
"unless Don and I make more money
than the other guys."
2613
02:44:10,280 --> 02:44:12,480
"We're the only guys
who have done anything
2614
02:44:12,480 --> 02:44:14,880
"career-wise in the last 14 years.
2615
02:44:14,880 --> 02:44:18,160
"We're the guys that have kept
the Eagles' name alive on radio,
2616
02:44:18,160 --> 02:44:20,160
"television and in concert halls."
2617
02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:23,480
So we came up with a deal
that I was happy with,
2618
02:44:23,480 --> 02:44:26,160
and Don was happy with,
Timothy was happy with,
2619
02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:29,880
Joe was happy with, and
Don Felder was not happy with.
2620
02:44:29,880 --> 02:44:31,960
And I called Felder's
representative.
2621
02:44:31,960 --> 02:44:34,680
And I said, "Hello, Barry.
This is Glenn Frey.
2622
02:44:34,680 --> 02:44:37,840
"I'm sorry you happen to represent
the only asshole in the band,
2623
02:44:37,840 --> 02:44:39,840
"but let me tell you something.
2624
02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:43,280
"You either sign this agreement
before the sun goes down today,
2625
02:44:43,280 --> 02:44:45,240
"or we're replacing Don Felder.
2626
02:44:45,240 --> 02:44:46,680
"That's the final deal.
2627
02:44:46,680 --> 02:44:49,520
"He signs by sunset,
or he's out of the fucking band."
2628
02:44:50,560 --> 02:44:51,960
Hung up.
2629
02:44:51,960 --> 02:44:55,720
So, he signed the deal,
and we started out on the tour.
2630
02:44:56,880 --> 02:45:00,240
I didn't sense a great deal
of camaraderie.
2631
02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:01,840
You hardly saw anybody
2632
02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:05,280
if it wasn't walking on the plane
or walking onto the stage.
2633
02:45:05,280 --> 02:45:07,920
Everyone thought,
"Well, if we don't get together,
2634
02:45:07,920 --> 02:45:09,680
"we won't have problems."
2635
02:45:09,680 --> 02:45:12,760
And I think instead of being able to
sit down and have a beer and talk
2636
02:45:12,760 --> 02:45:17,440
about stuff and renew a relationship
with everyone, that independent
2637
02:45:17,440 --> 02:45:23,520
isolation really didn't add the
comfort necessary to make it work.
2638
02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:29,640
Don Felder was never, ever
satisfied, never, ever happy.
2639
02:45:32,040 --> 02:45:35,000
A rock band is not
a perfect democracy.
2640
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:36,480
It's more like a sports team.
2641
02:45:36,480 --> 02:45:39,240
No one can do anything
without the other guys,
2642
02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:42,840
but everybody doesn't get to touch
the ball all the time.
2643
02:45:42,840 --> 02:45:47,480
Time went on, and time went on, and
Felder became more and more unhappy.
2644
02:45:47,480 --> 02:45:50,480
Couldn't appreciate
the amount of money he was making,
2645
02:45:50,480 --> 02:45:53,640
more concerned about how much money
I was making.
2646
02:45:59,440 --> 02:46:02,120
If Don Felder really
thought about it,
2647
02:46:02,120 --> 02:46:05,800
it really was he wanted it to be
a "band" band in the purest
2648
02:46:05,800 --> 02:46:09,640
sense of the words, you know, we're
all going to get equal songwriting,
2649
02:46:09,640 --> 02:46:13,400
singing, expression stuff,
and this was not a hippie commune.
2650
02:46:13,400 --> 02:46:15,480
You know, and everything for them
2651
02:46:15,480 --> 02:46:17,840
really goes back to those
two words - song power.
2652
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:24,320
We finally made the decision that we
won't be working with him anymore.
2653
02:46:25,440 --> 02:46:29,640
It just broke my heart.
It's not just playing with Joe.
2654
02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:32,320
I miss these guys.
2655
02:46:32,320 --> 02:46:35,680
But I really missed
the friendship and the music.
2656
02:46:38,320 --> 02:46:40,680
OK.
2657
02:46:42,800 --> 02:46:46,320
Glenn and I, when it comes time
to make band decisions,
2658
02:46:46,320 --> 02:46:48,120
usually stick together.
2659
02:46:48,120 --> 02:46:52,000
It's difficult for four or five
people to have an equal say.
2660
02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:55,480
Here we are 40 years later,
and we're doing OK.
2661
02:46:55,480 --> 02:46:58,280
We're one of the few bands
that can say that.
2662
02:46:59,440 --> 02:47:03,040
The novelty of the Eagles being back
together and those few new songs
2663
02:47:03,040 --> 02:47:05,960
that we had on the Hell Freezes Over
album is one thing.
2664
02:47:05,960 --> 02:47:08,600
But we needed to make a record.
2665
02:47:10,440 --> 02:47:13,840
Considering that we haven't made
a record in so long,
2666
02:47:13,840 --> 02:47:19,040
we spent a good two-and-a-half years
making Long Road Out Of Eden.
2667
02:47:19,040 --> 02:47:22,480
We finally figured out that
we just needed to do what we do.
2668
02:47:22,480 --> 02:47:24,920
This really goes back to
the essence of what we do best,
2669
02:47:24,920 --> 02:47:27,280
which is singing and songwriting.
2670
02:47:27,280 --> 02:47:29,520
A lot of harmony
singing on this album.
2671
02:47:29,520 --> 02:47:33,680
ALL: # There's a hole
in the world tonight
2672
02:47:33,680 --> 02:47:39,000
# Don't let there be a hole
in the world tomorrow... #
2673
02:47:40,360 --> 02:47:43,480
Big tragedies like that make you
think, as a parent,
2674
02:47:43,480 --> 02:47:45,600
what kind of world is coming up?
2675
02:47:45,600 --> 02:47:47,480
What's going to happen next?
2676
02:47:47,480 --> 02:47:49,880
What's the world going to be like
when my kids are grown?
2677
02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:55,880
After September 11th,
our immediate visceral reaction,
2678
02:47:55,880 --> 02:47:58,920
our gut reaction,
resulted in Hole In The World.
2679
02:48:02,240 --> 02:48:07,240
# Don't let there be a hole
in the world tomorrow... #
2680
02:48:07,240 --> 02:48:10,040
The Eagles have written
and sung plenty of love songs
2681
02:48:10,040 --> 02:48:13,080
over the years, but we've also
written and sung songs
2682
02:48:13,080 --> 02:48:15,720
that have to do with
what's going on in the wider world.
2683
02:48:15,720 --> 02:48:18,200
We've never shied away
from social commentary.
2684
02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:20,560
We think it's part of a rich
tradition that dates all
2685
02:48:20,560 --> 02:48:22,360
the way back to medieval times.
2686
02:48:22,360 --> 02:48:24,360
And so we still engage in it.
2687
02:48:26,440 --> 02:48:29,480
# No more walks in the wood
2688
02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:34,080
# The trees have all been cut down
2689
02:48:36,080 --> 02:48:38,760
# And where once they stood
2690
02:48:40,400 --> 02:48:45,800
# Not even a wagon rut
appears along the path... #
2691
02:48:47,400 --> 02:48:51,040
The writings and the ideas
of Henry David Thoreau
2692
02:48:51,040 --> 02:48:53,920
and Ralph Waldo Emerson
had a huge impact on me.
2693
02:48:53,920 --> 02:48:56,920
They got me through some
very difficult times in my life,
2694
02:48:56,920 --> 02:49:00,080
one being when my father was
stricken with heart disease,
2695
02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:03,920
and provided a lot of spiritual
support for me.
2696
02:49:03,920 --> 02:49:07,520
When I found out in 1980 that
part of Walden was going to be
2697
02:49:07,520 --> 02:49:09,280
destroyed by commercial development,
2698
02:49:09,280 --> 02:49:13,200
I decided that was something
I needed to help fight.
2699
02:49:13,200 --> 02:49:16,560
So I ended up founding
the Walden Woods Project.
2700
02:49:16,560 --> 02:49:19,880
And we are in our 27th year now,
and we've accomplished a great deal.
2701
02:49:19,880 --> 02:49:23,680
It's been one of the most rewarding
things that I've ever done.
2702
02:49:23,680 --> 02:49:27,880
# We and the trees and the way
2703
02:49:29,240 --> 02:49:32,600
# Back from the fields of play... #
2704
02:49:34,280 --> 02:49:37,200
The lyrics to that song were
originally a poem
2705
02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:40,320
written by a great American poet
named John Hollander.
2706
02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:43,760
# No more walks in the wood. #
2707
02:49:56,680 --> 02:50:00,000
Don had this title,
Long Road Out Of Eden.
2708
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:02,840
Timothy goes over,
and he picks up an acoustic guitar.
2709
02:50:02,840 --> 02:50:06,240
And I go over to the keyboards
and Joe grabs a guitar
2710
02:50:06,240 --> 02:50:07,800
and Don goes on the drums.
2711
02:50:07,800 --> 02:50:12,000
And we start making up
this sort of musical story called
2712
02:50:12,000 --> 02:50:16,520
Long Road Out Of Eden,
a story of, really, the war in Iraq.
2713
02:50:17,560 --> 02:50:21,360
# Moon shining down through the palms
2714
02:50:22,480 --> 02:50:26,560
# Shadows moving on the sand... #
2715
02:50:26,560 --> 02:50:29,480
And it was, like, the last resort.
2716
02:50:29,480 --> 02:50:33,320
It was another opus,
another David Lean movie.
2717
02:50:33,320 --> 02:50:40,400
# And it's a long road out of Eden. #
2718
02:50:41,840 --> 02:50:43,360
We finally got through,
2719
02:50:43,360 --> 02:50:45,800
and we finally made
Long Road Out Of Eden.
2720
02:50:45,800 --> 02:50:47,760
And we didn't give it to
a record company.
2721
02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:50,040
We made a deal with Walmart.
2722
02:50:50,040 --> 02:50:54,200
This was the first major artist
to do a direct-to-retail release
2723
02:50:54,200 --> 02:50:56,440
and bypass the major record
companies.
2724
02:50:56,440 --> 02:50:58,160
It was phenomenally successful.
2725
02:50:58,160 --> 02:50:59,840
The album entered at number one.
2726
02:50:59,840 --> 02:51:03,640
It gave, I think, the whole industry
hope that it could find a new
2727
02:51:03,640 --> 02:51:05,280
and different way to reach its fans.
2728
02:51:05,280 --> 02:51:07,320
They're becoming a much
greener company,
2729
02:51:07,320 --> 02:51:08,760
and that was important to me.
2730
02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:12,200
And the other good thing was that
our fans got 20 songs for 12 bucks.
2731
02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:15,160
It was basically a double album, and
they weren't charged double for it.
2732
02:51:18,360 --> 02:51:22,320
Don said, "I got a title for
a song - Busy Being Fabulous."
2733
02:51:22,320 --> 02:51:24,640
And I thought, "What a great title."
2734
02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:28,400
# I came home to an empty house
2735
02:51:29,760 --> 02:51:32,080
# And I found your little note... #
2736
02:51:32,080 --> 02:51:34,520
And then Don wrote,
"Don't wait up for me tonight,
2737
02:51:34,520 --> 02:51:36,240
"that was all she wrote."
2738
02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:38,920
# Don't wait up for me tonight
2739
02:51:38,920 --> 02:51:41,720
# And that was all she wrote... #
2740
02:51:41,720 --> 02:51:43,280
And then we were off on the story.
2741
02:51:43,280 --> 02:51:47,200
# You were just too busy
being fabulous
2742
02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:52,760
# Too busy to think about us... #
2743
02:51:55,240 --> 02:51:57,960
Busy Being Fabulous,
Don and Glenn had gotten it
2744
02:51:57,960 --> 02:52:00,880
to a certain state, and I came up
with some stuff for the bridge
2745
02:52:00,880 --> 02:52:03,440
and tweaked what already existed.
2746
02:52:03,440 --> 02:52:06,120
I was very involved
in the Long Road record.
2747
02:52:06,120 --> 02:52:09,480
I've always been a lot happier
getting into the entire project,
2748
02:52:09,480 --> 02:52:13,080
arranging stuff, producing
the stuff, co-writing the stuff.
2749
02:52:13,080 --> 02:52:16,360
Like, Waiting In The Weeds
and Business As Usual
2750
02:52:16,360 --> 02:52:18,400
were co-writes with Don.
2751
02:52:18,400 --> 02:52:23,160
Getting Steuart Smith in the band
was a real shot in the arm.
2752
02:52:23,160 --> 02:52:26,240
He's such a terrific musician.
2753
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:33,360
It's a great solo.
2754
02:52:33,360 --> 02:52:35,800
It's like stepping
into a space suit.
2755
02:52:37,160 --> 02:52:40,640
It is strange
to be playing that song.
2756
02:52:40,640 --> 02:52:44,400
The reaction is terrific,
and you bask in that excitement.
2757
02:52:44,400 --> 02:52:45,840
But I didn't write it.
2758
02:52:52,600 --> 02:52:55,680
I'm one part hired gun,
but also one part collaborator.
2759
02:52:55,680 --> 02:52:59,360
I'm one of the guitar players.
But I'm not an Eagle.
2760
02:53:00,840 --> 02:53:03,560
I don't know what it's like to be
one of those guys.
2761
02:53:03,560 --> 02:53:04,920
Three, four!
2762
02:53:07,200 --> 02:53:09,440
My kids were
looking on the Internet,
2763
02:53:09,440 --> 02:53:14,160
and they found this show
that the Eagles had done in 1974.
2764
02:53:18,760 --> 02:53:22,560
I was in my office watching TV,
and my kids come in and say,
2765
02:53:22,560 --> 02:53:24,040
"Hey, Dad, come here.
2766
02:53:24,040 --> 02:53:26,120
"You got to take
a look at your hair."
2767
02:53:26,120 --> 02:53:28,040
And one of the songs was How Long.
2768
02:53:28,040 --> 02:53:31,320
# But if I never see
the good old days
2769
02:53:31,320 --> 02:53:34,040
# Shining in the sun
2770
02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:38,440
# I'll be doing fine and then some
2771
02:53:41,400 --> 02:53:44,520
# Tell me how long... #
2772
02:53:44,520 --> 02:53:47,080
How Long
was from my first solo album.
2773
02:53:47,080 --> 02:53:49,360
They found that cos Cindy saw
it on YouTube and said,
2774
02:53:49,360 --> 02:53:50,920
"Glenn, what's this?"
2775
02:53:50,920 --> 02:53:53,400
And he said,
"Oh, it's a song of JD's."
2776
02:53:53,400 --> 02:53:55,880
She said, "Well,
you didn't cut it, did you?"
2777
02:53:55,880 --> 02:53:59,320
# How long, how long
Rock yourself to sleep
2778
02:54:00,920 --> 02:54:03,560
GUITAR SOLO
2779
02:54:07,320 --> 02:54:11,360
JD wanted it on his solo album,
so we never recorded it.
2780
02:54:11,360 --> 02:54:15,320
My wife said, "Hey,
that sounds like a hit Eagles song."
2781
02:54:15,320 --> 02:54:19,360
# Everybody feels all right you know
I heard some poor fool say
2782
02:54:19,360 --> 02:54:21,560
# Somebody
2783
02:54:21,560 --> 02:54:25,120
# Everyone is out there on the loose
2784
02:54:27,280 --> 02:54:33,400
# Well, I wish I lived in the land
of fools, and no one knew my name
2785
02:54:34,920 --> 02:54:38,960
# But what you get is not
quite what you choose
2786
02:54:41,480 --> 02:54:44,760
# Tell me, how long, how long
2787
02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:47,760
# Woman will you weep? #
2788
02:54:47,760 --> 02:54:49,440
They are the American band.
2789
02:54:49,440 --> 02:54:53,360
Yeah, they pretty much encompassed
the '70s, didn't they?
2790
02:54:53,360 --> 02:54:54,920
And took it all in.
2791
02:54:54,920 --> 02:54:58,080
That's a long time to
still have a musical impact,
2792
02:54:58,080 --> 02:55:02,680
and it's due to this incredibly
crisp, tight,
2793
02:55:02,680 --> 02:55:07,000
extraordinarily good record-making
band and the presence of good songs.
2794
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:09,600
But it's also now
taken on this other thing, too,
2795
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:13,000
where it's everybody through
the band wants to remember a
2796
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:15,560
'70s that they may or may
not have had.
2797
02:55:15,560 --> 02:55:19,400
# Good night, baby,
rock yourself to sleep
2798
02:55:19,400 --> 02:55:22,880
# Sleep tight, baby,
rock yourself to sleep
2799
02:55:22,880 --> 02:55:28,480
# B-B-B-Bye-bye, baby,
rock yourself to slee-e-e-ep. #
2800
02:55:40,880 --> 02:55:43,920
This band could go play
stadiums all over the country,
2801
02:55:43,920 --> 02:55:46,880
and people know these songs
so intimately.
2802
02:55:52,680 --> 02:55:56,080
They last. The songs last.
2803
02:55:57,960 --> 02:56:00,560
I have one small plaque on my wall.
2804
02:56:00,560 --> 02:56:04,520
It says, "Presented to the Eagles
to commemorate the best-selling
2805
02:56:04,520 --> 02:56:06,400
"album of the 20th century,
2806
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:09,800
"with sales in excess
of 26 million units."
2807
02:56:09,800 --> 02:56:12,960
That century's gone,
so nobody's going to top that.
2808
02:56:16,280 --> 02:56:18,720
What's it like to be an Eagle now?
2809
02:56:18,720 --> 02:56:21,600
It's just part of my life.
I do normal things.
2810
02:56:21,600 --> 02:56:26,280
I go to the market, and once in
a while, somebody comes up to me.
2811
02:56:26,280 --> 02:56:28,480
I don't walk around being an Eagle.
2812
02:56:28,480 --> 02:56:31,440
I'm an Eagle
when it's time for me to be.
2813
02:56:31,440 --> 02:56:35,240
I made sure the dishes were done
before you guys came today.
2814
02:56:35,240 --> 02:56:37,120
You know?
2815
02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:55,880
# He was a hard-headed man
2816
02:56:55,880 --> 02:56:59,200
# And he was brutally handsome
2817
02:56:59,200 --> 02:57:01,680
# She was terminally pretty
2818
02:57:03,440 --> 02:57:06,800
# She held him up
and he held her for ransom
2819
02:57:06,800 --> 02:57:10,480
# In the heart of the cold, cold city
2820
02:57:11,840 --> 02:57:15,560
# He had a nasty
reputation as a cruel dude
2821
02:57:15,560 --> 02:57:19,920
# They said he was ruthless,
they said he was crude
2822
02:57:19,920 --> 02:57:23,680
# They had one thing in common,
they were good in bed
2823
02:57:23,680 --> 02:57:28,600
# She'd say, "Faster, faster,
the lights are turnin' red"
2824
02:57:28,600 --> 02:57:31,040
# Life in the fast lane
2825
02:57:31,040 --> 02:57:33,680
# Surely make you lose your mind
2826
02:57:33,680 --> 02:57:35,640
# Life in the fast lane... #
2827
02:57:37,040 --> 02:57:39,320
I love everybody
in the band like a brother.
2828
02:57:39,320 --> 02:57:44,720
To be part of a real band -
2829
02:57:44,720 --> 02:57:46,640
a REAL band -
2830
02:57:46,640 --> 02:57:51,640
is something that not all musicians
get to do in their life.
2831
02:57:53,680 --> 02:57:58,160
And I'm real lucky to have that
chapter in my book.
2832
02:58:05,560 --> 02:58:09,880
Rock'n'roll saved my life.
It changed my life tremendously.
2833
02:58:12,520 --> 02:58:16,280
And as Mick Jagger so famously
and eloquently said,
2834
02:58:16,280 --> 02:58:19,320
"It's only rock'n'roll,
but I like it."
2835
02:58:19,320 --> 02:58:21,760
I think that one of the reasons
that Glenn and I
2836
02:58:21,760 --> 02:58:24,560
wanted to write songs is because
rock'n'roll music got us
2837
02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:27,680
through junior high and through
high school and those difficult
2838
02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:29,840
times when you're searching
for your identity
2839
02:58:29,840 --> 02:58:31,680
and wondering who the heck you are,
2840
02:58:31,680 --> 02:58:34,360
trying to get girls to notice you,
and wondering why
2841
02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:37,280
the football players are doing
so much better than you are.
2842
02:58:38,640 --> 02:58:43,040
At the end of the day,
it was and still is about the music.
2843
02:58:44,480 --> 02:58:48,960
# You know, I've always been
a dreamer... #
2844
02:58:48,960 --> 02:58:52,080
I regret that I didn't handle
some of the adversity
2845
02:58:52,080 --> 02:58:54,960
that the Eagles faced
in the late '70s better.
2846
02:58:54,960 --> 02:58:56,440
Fortunately, for me,
2847
02:58:56,440 --> 02:59:00,320
I've had another chance to be
the leader of the Eagles, another
2848
02:59:00,320 --> 02:59:05,840
chance to be Don's partner and do
this work again and play this music.
2849
02:59:05,840 --> 02:59:09,920
And in this second run, I think
I've done a pretty good job
2850
02:59:09,920 --> 02:59:15,960
of keeping the peace and keep the
band together, keep everybody happy.
2851
02:59:15,960 --> 02:59:17,400
So here we are.
2852
02:59:18,920 --> 02:59:20,120
Still doing it.
2853
02:59:20,120 --> 02:59:25,200
# You gotta take it to the limit
2854
02:59:25,200 --> 02:59:28,920
# One more time. #
2855
02:59:31,600 --> 02:59:34,360
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
2856
02:59:37,040 --> 02:59:39,000
Thank you.
2857
02:59:44,120 --> 02:59:46,600
That's it! That's it!
2858
02:59:48,080 --> 02:59:49,600
Bye-bye.
2859
02:59:52,000 --> 02:59:53,640
'We wanted longevity.
2860
02:59:53,640 --> 02:59:56,440
'It wasn't a hobby for us.
It wasn't a game.
2861
02:59:56,440 --> 03:00:00,120
'It wasn't a pleasant diversion.
It was a life.
2862
03:00:00,120 --> 03:00:02,320
'It was a calling. It was a career.'
2863
03:00:02,320 --> 03:00:04,280
It was worth it.
2864
03:00:08,120 --> 03:00:10,920
We went to China last year.
2865
03:00:10,920 --> 03:00:13,840
We're still breaking
new ground 40 years later.
2866
03:00:15,400 --> 03:00:17,000
Back in the late '70s,
2867
03:00:17,000 --> 03:00:19,840
Neil Young sang a song
about the emerging punk ethic.
2868
03:00:19,840 --> 03:00:21,880
And the pivotal line
in that song was,
2869
03:00:21,880 --> 03:00:24,440
"It's better to burn out
than it is to rust."
2870
03:00:24,440 --> 03:00:26,480
And I'm not sure that even
Neil himself
2871
03:00:26,480 --> 03:00:29,840
subscribed to that sentiment,
but I don't see rust as a bad thing.
2872
03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:35,040
I have an old 1962 John Deere
tractor that's covered with rust,
2873
03:00:35,040 --> 03:00:36,920
but it runs like a top.
2874
03:00:36,920 --> 03:00:39,600
You know, the inner
workings are just fine.
2875
03:00:39,600 --> 03:00:42,920
# You better let somebody love you
2876
03:00:45,000 --> 03:00:47,400
# Let somebody love you
2877
03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:53,600
# You better let somebody love... #
2878
03:00:53,600 --> 03:00:56,560
'To me, that rust symbolises
all the miles driven
2879
03:00:56,560 --> 03:01:01,000
'and all the good work done
and all the experiences gained.'
2880
03:01:04,200 --> 03:01:09,200
# Before it's too-o-o-o
2881
03:01:11,000 --> 03:01:15,520
# Late. #
2882
03:01:15,520 --> 03:01:17,400
CHEERING
2883
03:01:21,840 --> 03:01:25,280
'From where I sit,
the rust looks pretty good.'
2884
03:02:04,440 --> 03:02:07,600
When somebody is around 40 years,
it means they've got something,
2885
03:02:07,600 --> 03:02:09,920
something that people want.
And the Eagles have that.
2886
03:02:09,920 --> 03:02:12,720
To me, the Eagles
really expressed a mood.
2887
03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:14,800
California was the place of dreams.
2888
03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:17,400
It was a time of limitless
possibilities.
2889
03:02:17,400 --> 03:02:21,160
I think they were a defining moment
in the rock'n'roll world
2890
03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:22,680
that I love.
2891
03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:26,840
You couldn't really love the Eagles
music and be an Eagles fan
2892
03:02:26,840 --> 03:02:30,200
and actually know them and not
aspire to greatness yourself.
2893
03:02:30,200 --> 03:02:33,600
I'm not really into legacies. People
talk to me, "What's your legacy?"
2894
03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:35,520
I'm here now.
2895
03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:39,720
I'm doing what I want to do, and
I'm trying to make stuff happen.
2896
03:02:39,720 --> 03:02:41,800
I see the Eagles in the same way.
2897
03:02:41,800 --> 03:02:44,280
They're not in the '70s.
2898
03:02:44,280 --> 03:02:46,480
They're in 2012 and 2013.
2899
03:02:46,480 --> 03:02:48,800
And whatever they're doing now
artistically,
2900
03:02:48,800 --> 03:02:50,520
that's what's important.
2901
03:02:50,520 --> 03:02:55,440
# In the long run
In the long run
2902
03:02:55,440 --> 03:03:01,560
# We can handle some resistance
If our love is a strong one
2903
03:03:01,560 --> 03:03:04,360
# Is a strong one
2904
03:03:06,000 --> 03:03:09,600
# People talkin' about us
They got nothin' else to do
2905
03:03:09,600 --> 03:03:14,200
# When it all comes down
we will still come through
2906
03:03:14,200 --> 03:03:19,640
# In the long run
Ooh, I want to tell you
2907
03:03:19,640 --> 03:03:21,680
# It's a long run
2908
03:03:24,080 --> 03:03:28,920
# You know I don't understand
why you don't treat yourself better
2909
03:03:28,920 --> 03:03:32,640
# Do the crazy things that you do
2910
03:03:34,000 --> 03:03:36,480
# Cos all the debutantes... #
2911
03:03:36,480 --> 03:03:39,240
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