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>> Ain't no
sunshine when she's gone.
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It's not warm when she's away.
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Ain't no sunshine
when she's gone.
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She's always gone too long
anytime she goes away.
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Wonder this time
where she's gone.
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Wonder if she's gonna stay.
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Ain't no sunshine
when she's gone.
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And this house just ain't no
home anytime she goes away.
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I know, I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know, I know, I know,
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I know, I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know, I know, I know,
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I know, I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know, I know, I know,
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I know, I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know, I know, I know,
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I know, I know, I oughta
leave the young thing alone.
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But ain't no sunshine when she's
gone anytime she goes away.
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Anytime she goes awa-aay.
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>> Can I take us right back
to when you first started?
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How did your recording
career come about?
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>> I saved up some of my own
money and recorded myself.
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I had never written any songs,
I didn't really know how
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to play anything and I
had never sung before.
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Not really, you know, in
the shower or some place.
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But I just decided it would
be awfully nice to get
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in the music business and
then I just walked around
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and knocked on everybody's door.
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A lot of times I would go in
and somebody would say to me,
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"You're too old to
be just beginning."
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You know, I was like, 32
years old at the time.
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Most of the major record
companies called me up.
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But they had a different
idea of how--
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they didn't want me
to do anything quiet.
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They had this rhythm and
blues syndrome in their mind
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with the horns and the three
chicks and the gold lame suit,
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you know and I wasn't really
into that, so I thought--
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I had a job, you know, so
I thought well, you know,
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if they won't let me do
it like I want to do it,
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I've got this good job
making these toilets,
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I don't need you guys.
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>> Making these toilets.
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What kind of toilets
were you making?
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>> For aircraft.
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>> Ah!
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>> Yeah, 747 aircraft.
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I installed cameras in those
toilets unbeknownst we say
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that in slam
to anybody but me.
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So if you've ever
been to the bathroom
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on a 747, I know you very well.
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You understand.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, here's all the stuff
that I don't know how to work.
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I mean, I
guess the stuff works,
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I know how to turn
it on, you know.
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Like I can make lights
come on and stuff.
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Let's see, yeah, I
can turn that on.
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And, let's see, turn this fan
on here to cool that down.
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This thing's been sitting here
corroding for about ten years.
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I see. Remember I got a bigger
kind of speaker thing here.
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Fooling around, let's see.
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I was just playing
with all these gadgets.
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I have to be careful
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that I don't just
wallow in my own comfort.
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Probably now, I'm trying to
find some kind of motivation or,
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you know, I'm not lazy.
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I don't even understand.
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I'm trying to give myself
a chance to get driven.
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Where just the sheer activity
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of doing something just jacks
you up, makes you excited.
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I lived a good portion
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of my life before I
started to play music.
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I had been working at Weber
Aircraft and I got laid off.
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Then "Ain't No Sunshine"
started appearing on the radio
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and stuff, and it's funny
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because I got two
requests in the same day.
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I got a letter from my job
saying that I was called back
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to work and I got a request
to do the Johnny Carson Show.
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>> I like that song, that
was big for you, wasn't it?
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>> Yeah, that kind of, uh, got
me off the ham and eggs thing
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and kind of tightened
me up a little bit.
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>> But, we mentioned
this before,
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that you were a craftsman and
you made john, toilets, right?
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>> Oh, yeah, it was a good job.
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I had a lot of fun doing it.
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>> Where does the
fun come in, Bill?
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I mean, I mean--
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>> Well--
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>> People in my own family
were probably surprised
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when I was on the radio.
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People from-- I had been in the
Navy with, people I had worked
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in the factory with, people that
knew me were probably going,
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"Wait a minute, is
that that same guy?"
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If I would
have gone to work the next day
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and told somebody
where I was last night,
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I think I'd laughed
out of the place.
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All of a sudden, I'm
traveling on the road
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and more people are
interested in you than before.
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It was just like a
whole other world.
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>> You just call on
me brother when you need a hand.
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We all need somebody to lean on.
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>> Ladies
and gentlemen, Mr. Bill Withers.
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>> I just might have a
problem that you'll understand.
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We all need somebody to lean on.
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Lean on me--
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>> Mr. Bill Withers.
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>> -- when you're not
strong and I'll be your friend,
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I'll help you carry on.
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For it won't be long till I'm
gonna need somebody to lean on.
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>> New
words started to enter my life
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that had never been there
before, like "handsome".
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Boy, you sure do
get better looking
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when you get a hit record.
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I'm telling you that.
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>> I want
to spread the news
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that if it feels this
good getting used.
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Oh, you just keep on using me.
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Hey, hey, until you use me up.
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Hey, hey,
until you use me up.
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Hey, hey, now you're
talking about you using me
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but it all depends
on what you do.
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It ain't too bad the way you're
using me 'cause I sure am using
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you to do that thing you do.
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Hey, hey, to
do that thing you do.
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>> I had never been in the
entertainment business before.
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The first live singing
I ever did was in front
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of about 5,000 people.
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All of a sudden, somebody
says, "Go to work."
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>> Let's give a big
round of applause--
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>> Come on in.
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>>-- for the one and
only Mr. Bill Withers.
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>> Well,
I'm five years old.
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Sure am cold.
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Mama's out cooking steak,
cooking steak for someone else--
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>> What do you see as the
prognosis of your career, Bill?
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You know, you'll
become a big star,
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you're becoming a superstar.
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And do think you can
remain just as you are?
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>> First, I have to become
somebody that understands what
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"prognosis" means, man.
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It's a scary word.
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>> Well, how do you
interpret how are things going
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to go for you?
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>> Oh, yeah.
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I'm kind of just letting
them go, you know.
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Letting them go and whatever
is given to me if I can do it,
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you know, I'll just have at it.
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Two or three years into
this, I was in a major mess.
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I mean the record
company actually collapsed
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out from under me.
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Well, IRS came in and then
took the tapes and sold them.
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Then, when I went to this
major, big, mega label company,
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you walk in, you play
something and somebody goes,
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"Why
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You got to put some horns on it.
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How long is the intro?"
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First hit record I had
was "Ain't No Sunshine."
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No intro, nothing.
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If nobody throws all
that rules at you,
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you might make a song
with no introduction.
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Instead of singing
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about romantic love all the
time, you make a love song
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about your grandmother.
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Or you make a friendship song,
a la "Lean On Me," searching
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through your feelings
and your vulnerabilities
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and your strengths
and your weaknesses.
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You're already loaded up enough
with the burden of just trying
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to find those feelings.
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So then, here comes a
whole bunch of guys trying
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to tell you what to do with
all their goofy suggestions
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and stuff.
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They had the R&B black guys,
and then they got what I
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like to call "Blacksperts",
that's the white guys
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who are supposed to be
"experts", you know,
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who have some kind of tap
into your black psyche.
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I had an A&R man once that
his big suggestion to me was
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that I cover Elvis
Presley's "In The Ghetto."
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I was livid.
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And as I started to
try to respond to that,
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that simple kind of emotional,
vulnerable kind of thing,
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kind of got splattered
around there.
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I became very
interested, can I still stay
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in this business and be
effective and make a living
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and not have to play
this fame game?
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I wasn't any good at it.
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The fame game was
kicking my ass.
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>> I see the crystal
raindrops fall and the beauty
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of it all is when the sun
comes shining through.
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To make those rainbows
in my mind
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when I think of you some time.
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And I want to spend
some time with you.
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Just the two of us.
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We can make it if we try.
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Just the two of us.
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>> Just the two of us.
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>> Just the two of
us building castles in the sky,
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just the two of us, you and I.
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>> I would like to
see us move past
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to where you need the validation
of the mainstream so much
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until we got away
from liking ourselves.
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>> The challenge, though,
is still, once you get
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in that mainstream, to
not become mainstream.
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That is to say, to remain
your authentic self,
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to still make the community
that produced you proud of you.
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To not, in the cultural
vernacular,
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to become a sell-out.
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>> "Sell-out".
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I'm not crazy about that word
because we're all entrepreneurs.
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To me, I don't care whether
you own a furniture store
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or whatever.
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The best sign you can
put up is, "Sold out".
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>> Sold out.
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>> So let's cut-- can we make--
can we make that subservient?
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>> Yeah, that's--
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>> No that's it.
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>>-- give a twist on
the .
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>> No, I think what
is saying he'd do,
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it is a profound point.
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One. One, it's a
Shakespearian point.
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"To thine own self be true.
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If night follows the day,
thou can be false to no one."
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You have been true to yourself.
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You don't sound like
Paul Simon on the guitar,
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you're Bill Withers because
you come out of your roots.
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When you sing Grandma's Hands,
talking about Matty and talking
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about grandma taking care
of local, unwed mothers
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in Virginia-- West
Virginia, that's real.
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That's being yourself.
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At the same time now, in being
yourself, you're able to cross
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over into a white
mainstream, and they had
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to accept you on your own terms.
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>> You see, looking
at this thing is--
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>> You better be careful.
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>>-- not new.
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Oh, boy, these pages
are really--
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well, I guess this was brothers
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and sisters I had
that never lived.
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I was the last of 13
kids that my mother had.
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I guess I wasn't born yet,
so I'm not in here anywhere.
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Grackus Monroe Galloway
was my mother's father
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and he was born a slave.
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He was probably nine years old
when they freed the slaves.
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He worked in the coal mines
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but he would never work
for the coal company.
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He hauled coal.
242
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Here's Grandma.
243
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Now, I took this
picture when I was a kid,
244
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so you can see what
year it was by the car.
245
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>> Most of us at some point
in our lives have somebody
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that means more to us
247
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than anybody else has ever meant
before or will ever mean again.
248
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Sometimes it's a long-legged
lady, if you're a man.
249
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Or some tall, very smooth
man if you're a woman.
250
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But in my case, I learned
how to really love somebody
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from just a nice old lady.
252
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My favorite thing that
I've written has to be
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about this favorite
old lady of mine.
254
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I'm from
Slab Fork, West Virginia.
255
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You know where that is, right?
256
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>> No. Is that any
place near Bluefield?
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>> Yeah, it's near Bluefield.
258
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About 30 or 40 miles, I
guess, from Bluefield.
259
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>> Slab Fork, West Virginia.
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>> Yeah
261
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>> Grandma's
hands clapped
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in church on Sunday morning.
263
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Grandma's hands played
a tambourine so well.
264
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Grandma's hands used
to issue out a warning.
265
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She'd say "Billy,
don't you run so fast.
266
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Might fall on a piece of glass,
267
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might be snakes there
in that grass."
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Grandma's hands.
269
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Ah, them Grandma's hands.
270
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>> Hey, CV.
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This is the mayor here,
this is Mayor, CV.
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>> How you doing?
273
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How you doing?
274
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>> CV's running the things.
275
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I'm good, man.
276
00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:02,955
>> CV was talking to my
daughter and he was telling her,
277
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you know, "Let me tell you
about your great-grandmother."
278
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>> Right.
279
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>> And so CV remembers her.
280
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>> Grandmother Galloway.
281
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She was a very elegant woman.
282
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She sat on this porch and she
would sing spirituals right
283
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on that porch and
clap her hands.
284
00:17:18,105 --> 00:17:20,373
>> Remember they
called it getting happy.
285
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>> You're right,
right, right, right.
286
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>> There's a saying,
"the sleepy smiling South
287
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with blood on its mouth."
288
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>> Right, right.
289
00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:31,618
>> Well, we weren't
in that South.
290
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This was South, in a way.
291
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Like, when we grew up,
you didn't have to sit
292
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on the back of the bus.
293
00:17:37,224 --> 00:17:38,191
>> Right, right.
294
00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:40,160
>> But we had separate
schools now.
295
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>> Right.
296
00:17:41,294 --> 00:17:43,363
>> You could-- you had
to go to the back door
297
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if you wanted a milkshake
or something from one
298
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of the restaurants uptown.
299
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But the kids, left to our
own devices, we played, now.
300
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We sat here.
301
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That was the dividing line.
302
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>> Right.
303
00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:56,243
>> We were the only two
black families on this side
304
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of the railroad track.
305
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Well, we just integrated the
whole thing by ourselves.
306
00:18:00,147 --> 00:18:03,250
>> That I think all of the black
families basically, like it
307
00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:06,953
or not, most of us had white
people in our families.
308
00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:10,022
>> You know, after you did a
day's work in the coal mines,
309
00:18:10,022 --> 00:18:11,658
everybody was black anyway.
310
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>> Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, well, that's true.
311
00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:14,994
That's true.
312
00:18:14,994 --> 00:18:16,062
Yeah, that's what
I'm saying now.
313
00:18:16,062 --> 00:18:17,564
>> Wasn't nothing but
black people here.
314
00:18:17,564 --> 00:18:18,798
>>
I haven't been
315
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to Slab Fork since about 1959.
316
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Nobody's back there.
317
00:18:24,371 --> 00:18:26,373
No, there's nothing
there much except graves,
318
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you know, and old coal mines.
319
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And I'm really not
too hung up on going
320
00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:34,214
and laying flowers
on dead people.
321
00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:40,720
Let me be very candid about it.
322
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,223
This was a white graveyard.
323
00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:45,024
This is a black graveyard.
324
00:18:45,024 --> 00:18:47,460
>> Hey, Bill Withers.
325
00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:48,295
>> Yeah?
326
00:18:48,295 --> 00:18:49,896
>> What was your brother's name?
327
00:18:49,896 --> 00:18:52,098
>> His name was Earl Martin.
328
00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:54,734
>> Here he is right here.
329
00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:55,502
>> Okay.
330
00:18:55,502 --> 00:18:57,270
>> Earl W. Martin.
331
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:58,838
>> Yeah, that's my brother.
332
00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:01,641
Well, they give him
a nice stone.
333
00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:02,742
Where do you see those number?
334
00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:04,711
Oh, 1942.
335
00:19:04,711 --> 00:19:07,580
>> Do you vaguely
remember any location
336
00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:10,049
about where your
father would be?
337
00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:12,952
>> No. And I don't know
whether he would be buried close
338
00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:16,489
to Earl or not.
339
00:19:16,489 --> 00:19:18,358
Yeah,
well, Papa, well, yeah.
340
00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:20,293
Hello, bud.
341
00:19:20,293 --> 00:19:23,696
And I'll catch you
something later.
342
00:19:23,696 --> 00:19:25,598
My father taught me, you know,
343
00:19:25,598 --> 00:19:28,167
he put the work thing
in my head.
344
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:32,038
My mother put the
moral thing in my head.
345
00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:35,508
My father used to have a
little barber shop here
346
00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:38,611
and he wasn't a good barber
but he told great stories.
347
00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:44,251
>> Just
can't keep from crying.
348
00:19:44,251 --> 00:19:46,986
Six years, Lucy.
349
00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:49,155
Lord, have mercy.
350
00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:51,123
That's a long time.
351
00:19:51,123 --> 00:19:58,531
That's a long time.
352
00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:01,268
>> All these houses were
owned by the coal company
353
00:20:01,268 --> 00:20:03,202
and they all looked the same.
354
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:04,304
>> Absolutely.
355
00:20:04,304 --> 00:20:05,872
>> They've probably
done stuff to them now.
356
00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:08,040
>> The company owned everything.
357
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,442
>> Which was one family.
358
00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:12,745
The coal company got your money,
they paid you, then they got it.
359
00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:13,613
You had to shop.
360
00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:15,147
You shopped in their store.
361
00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:17,750
Now, this was the old store.
362
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:18,818
>> Yeah, company store.
363
00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:21,554
>> You could buy
everything at this store.
364
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:25,024
>> Now, this is an exceptional
coal camp from the standpoint
365
00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:28,928
that it still have enough life
to have some people living here.
366
00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:29,896
>> They had a lot of churches.
367
00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:31,498
They had a Baptist church,
368
00:20:31,498 --> 00:20:34,367
then they had a Methodist
church somewhere.
369
00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:40,307
And then they had your
Holy and Sanctified Church.
370
00:20:40,307 --> 00:20:45,278
>> Remember me.
371
00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:46,979
>> I liked my grandmother's
church.
372
00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:48,915
It was spontaneous singing.
373
00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:50,850
There was no programmed singing.
374
00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:56,623
Somebody got up and started to
sing a song, everybody sung.
375
00:20:56,623 --> 00:21:00,860
It was my favorite
kind of singing.
376
00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:02,829
>> Remember me.
377
00:21:02,829 --> 00:21:04,096
Oh, Lord. Remember me.
378
00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:12,372
>> Well, we have walked
these railroad ties, huh, CV?
379
00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:15,808
>> Yeah. Now, if you want
380
00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:21,548
to test how skillful
you are, walk this.
381
00:21:21,548 --> 00:21:24,884
>> Remember that that
used to be the thing,
382
00:21:24,884 --> 00:21:29,088
who could walk the rail?
383
00:21:29,088 --> 00:21:31,223
>> If you can walk the rail--
384
00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:31,791
>> The furthest?
385
00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:32,925
>> I say yeah.
386
00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:35,595
See, that's how to test
how skillful you are.
387
00:21:35,595 --> 00:21:36,262
>> Look at you.
388
00:21:36,262 --> 00:21:37,364
Look at .
389
00:21:37,364 --> 00:21:40,633
>> Yeah, so you-- I
still can walk it, yeah.
390
00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,034
>> So, are you doing
tricks and stuff.
391
00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:43,370
>> Yeah. See, that's
how skillful.
392
00:21:43,370 --> 00:21:48,307
>> Now, if you break out a
handstand, I'm leaving tonight.
393
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:51,978
I'm telling you,
this was like, life, busy, busy.
394
00:21:51,978 --> 00:21:54,914
Summertime come, we'd go around,
395
00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:57,183
dam up the creek,
get buck naked.
396
00:21:57,183 --> 00:21:57,984
>> And go swimming.
397
00:21:57,984 --> 00:21:59,185
>> Go swimming.
398
00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:02,154
And so the girls would
time you out, say, "Well,
399
00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:05,091
it's about swimming time," then
the girls would come down there.
400
00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:06,192
>> Yeah.
401
00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:08,728
>> And stand on the
side so you couldn't get
402
00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,363
out of the water
until they left.
403
00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:12,031
>> Right!
404
00:22:12,031 --> 00:22:13,332
>> You know, so it was
just a whole culture
405
00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:14,734
of stuff like that.
406
00:22:14,734 --> 00:22:20,139
>> It's an amazing thing, when
you look back, and you realize
407
00:22:20,139 --> 00:22:24,276
that the world changed
completely around you.
408
00:22:24,276 --> 00:22:25,044
You are seeing--
409
00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:25,612
>> It's gone, brother.
410
00:22:25,612 --> 00:22:26,479
This has gone.
411
00:22:26,479 --> 00:22:27,647
>> You're seeing
what used to be.
412
00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:29,416
>> So we are truly
the last of a--
413
00:22:29,416 --> 00:22:30,550
>> Yeah, we're getting there.
414
00:22:30,550 --> 00:22:31,518
>>
415
00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:33,486
>> Yeah, we getting there.
416
00:22:33,486 --> 00:22:34,120
>> Hey, Bill.
417
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:34,887
>> Yeah?
418
00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:36,188
>> Hit it one time for me.
419
00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:38,558
Ain't no
sunshine when she's gone.
420
00:22:38,558 --> 00:22:39,459
>> You already hit it.
421
00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:41,828
I can't hit it like you no more.
422
00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:43,730
>> Let me ask you,
do you do any--
423
00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:46,032
do you go on any
tours at all now?
424
00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:47,834
>> The first thing
you said to me was,
425
00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:49,201
"You look like an old man."
426
00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:50,570
>> Right.
427
00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:52,872
>> So, now, how could you tell
me in one breath that I look
428
00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:55,875
like an old man and then in
the second breath tell me,
429
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,677
"You ought to be
out on the road--
430
00:22:57,677 --> 00:22:58,377
>> I didn't know.
431
00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,011
>> playing rock'n'roll"?
432
00:22:59,011 --> 00:23:00,379
>> No, no, no, no.
433
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:04,016
No. I have never understood
how you entertainers could be
434
00:23:04,016 --> 00:23:05,117
on the road
435
00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:08,254
and do every-other-night
or one-night stands.
436
00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:09,522
>> I
don't understand it either,
437
00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:11,123
that's how come I
ain't doing it!
438
00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:14,494
>> Okay, okay.
439
00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:19,599
>>
I've had people ask me
440
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:20,800
that question a lot.
441
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,235
You know, "How could
you just stop?"
442
00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:26,839
Well, to me, it wasn't
stopping anything.
443
00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:28,641
It was doing something else.
444
00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:31,077
And I mean, I like
music, but I'm not going
445
00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:33,345
to place my whole worth on it.
446
00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:36,182
You know how unhappy you
would be if you thought
447
00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:39,752
that the way you
are is not okay?
448
00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:41,554
I started out my life like that.
449
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,523
I don't want to end
it up like that.
450
00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:49,195
>>
Okay, we're on our way
451
00:23:49,195 --> 00:23:52,264
to get a birthday cake.
452
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,266
>> I'm getting just a "7-0".
453
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:59,539
I don't want him to have to
struggle to blow out 70 candles.
454
00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:05,277
>> We
are putting this here.
455
00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:07,213
>> It's too big.
456
00:24:07,213 --> 00:24:08,948
>> This doesn't seem
very formal, but--
457
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:10,182
>> Doug.
458
00:24:10,182 --> 00:24:10,717
>> Yes?
459
00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:12,351
>> You know.
460
00:24:12,351 --> 00:24:13,152
>> You cool?
461
00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:13,720
>> Uh-hmm.
462
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,554
>> Welcome in.
463
00:24:14,554 --> 00:24:15,488
Yeah.
464
00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:17,289
>> But, we still
have to celebrate.
465
00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,226
We would love you to
make a gigantic wish
466
00:24:20,226 --> 00:24:22,161
and blow out your candles.
467
00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:23,462
You don't have to
divulge the wish,
468
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:27,500
but we'd love you
to make a wish.
469
00:24:30,937 --> 00:24:32,404
>>
I'm a senior citizen.
470
00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:35,474
That's okay with me.
471
00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:39,879
I'm okay with my grey
hair and my, you know,
472
00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:41,213
my narrowing shoulders.
473
00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:44,817
To the Country Inn.
474
00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:48,921
The most important thing
is to be okay, you know.
475
00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:51,223
I just want to feel good.
476
00:24:51,223 --> 00:24:54,026
I know what it feels like
not to feel all right.
477
00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:58,598
You know, guilt and
regret, aches and pains.
478
00:24:58,598 --> 00:25:02,835
I'd really like to learn to
accept everything before I die.
479
00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:04,403
>> Hey, Bill.
480
00:25:04,403 --> 00:25:08,507
>> Hey, man, how you doing?
481
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:09,208
Look out! Oh, Jimmy .
482
00:25:09,208 --> 00:25:09,842
>> What's going on, Bud?
483
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:10,810
>> How you doing?
484
00:25:10,810 --> 00:25:11,578
Boy, you still look
like a teenager.
485
00:25:11,578 --> 00:25:14,013
How you doing?
486
00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:14,847
>> Good seeing you, Bill.
487
00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:16,415
>> You too, man, you too.
488
00:25:16,415 --> 00:25:17,617
>> It must be your son.
489
00:25:17,617 --> 00:25:18,384
>> Yup, yes.
490
00:25:19,151 --> 00:25:19,919
>> It looks just like you!
491
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:23,122
>> How are you doing, man?
492
00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:24,523
How's everything?
493
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:25,958
How's everything going?
494
00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:28,127
>> I'm his daughter, but
last time I remember you,
495
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:29,295
you held me on your lap.
496
00:25:29,295 --> 00:25:31,163
We went over to your
mom's house.
497
00:25:31,163 --> 00:25:33,465
>> Yeah. How you doing
, sugar?
498
00:25:33,465 --> 00:25:41,407
Well, you could still
sit on there.
499
00:25:41,407 --> 00:25:47,647
You know,
not too long, though.
500
00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:51,083
Not too long.
501
00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:59,826
>> When I wake
up in the morning, love.
502
00:25:59,826 --> 00:26:05,798
And the sunlight hurts my eyes.
503
00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:15,207
>> Great
to see you, how you doing?
504
00:26:15,207 --> 00:26:18,077
>> I'm so glad to see you, girl.
505
00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:20,680
>> And something
without warning, love.
506
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,383
>> Yeah, girl, come here.
507
00:26:24,383 --> 00:26:27,319
How you doing?
508
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,121
>> Bears
heavy on my mind.
509
00:26:29,121 --> 00:26:29,689
>> I'm fine.
510
00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:30,657
This is Delores.
511
00:26:30,657 --> 00:26:35,127
>> Then I look at you.
512
00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:38,564
And the world's all
right with me.
513
00:26:38,564 --> 00:26:39,732
Just one look at you.
514
00:26:39,732 --> 00:26:42,001
>> You're looking good, man.
515
00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:43,135
>> Thank you.
516
00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:44,570
You're looking great!
517
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:51,177
>> I actually turned 70 today.
518
00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:53,045
>> Oh, wow.
519
00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:58,617
>> Some people are
just born cool.
520
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:02,154
They'd been cool all
their lives, you know.
521
00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:04,590
Well, I hadn't been
cool all my life.
522
00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:09,762
I was an
asthmatic stutterer as a kid.
523
00:27:09,762 --> 00:27:12,598
One popular thing
is, "Spit it out!
524
00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:13,800
Spit it out!"
525
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,304
And then they have all
these folky kind of cures,
526
00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:22,608
like hitting you in
the face with a dishrag
527
00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:26,979
or something, you
know what I mean.
528
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:29,115
Really stupid stuff.
529
00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:36,055
You know. I grew up with,
"You can't do nothing."
530
00:27:36,055 --> 00:27:45,131
One teacher said to me once
that I was handicapped.
531
00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:49,368
And I didn't like that word.
532
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:58,444
So any dreams that I had,
I kept them to myself.
533
00:27:59,578 --> 00:28:04,183
Once you're labeled sort
of a less-than person,
534
00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:12,058
it gave me this crisis
of confidence.
535
00:28:12,058 --> 00:28:16,695
I just wanted to leave,
and then go and start
536
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,431
over with some new people.
537
00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:26,038
The Navy, at that age, you know,
17, seemed like somewhere to go.
538
00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:29,842
>> If you don't
look into your mind.
539
00:28:29,842 --> 00:28:32,879
And find out what
you're running from.
540
00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:37,884
Tomorrow might be just
another day to run.
541
00:28:37,884 --> 00:28:40,119
>> These
are my old Navy buddies.
542
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:44,490
I've known these
guys since I was 21.
543
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,125
We all met in Guam.
544
00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:54,733
There was not much for us to
do socially, so it was kind
545
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,970
of frustrating because you got
all these young guys, you know,
546
00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:00,807
who had all this testosterone
547
00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:09,481
and there was nowhere
for them to go.
548
00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:10,582
>> Good old Bill.
549
00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,351
>> This is the man.
550
00:29:12,351 --> 00:29:13,886
>> You know what they
told me about Guam?
551
00:29:13,886 --> 00:29:16,989
The guy says, "Oh,
you're going to Guam.
552
00:29:16,989 --> 00:29:20,960
There's a woman behind
every tree.
553
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,129
There's only two trees."
554
00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:25,331
>> It was hard on
a brother in Guam.
555
00:29:25,331 --> 00:29:26,665
It was funny times.
556
00:29:26,665 --> 00:29:28,367
That was a whole lot
of life real fast.
557
00:29:28,367 --> 00:29:29,568
You know?
558
00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:31,137
>> Yeah. I was on the way
over I was thinking it.
559
00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:36,775
When I first seen you, didn't
you bring a guitar to Guam?
560
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,110
>> No. No.
561
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:46,385
I never owned a guitar until
1970 or something like that.
562
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:48,520
>> Is that right?
563
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,056
>> Yeah, I don't know an
F sharp from Ninth Street.
564
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:52,458
>> And when you got there you
found that little old bar.
565
00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:55,261
It was-- you were
singing Johnny Mathis,
566
00:29:55,261 --> 00:29:56,328
more so in which
you .
567
00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:59,231
>> Or whatever the
piano player could play.
568
00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:00,666
>> Is that right?
569
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:01,700
>> Couple of drinks, man,
570
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:02,334
everybody, you know.
571
00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:02,869
You start singing.
572
00:30:02,869 --> 00:30:03,903
Shoot. Yeah.
573
00:30:03,903 --> 00:30:04,736
But I still hadn't
given it any thought
574
00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:05,972
as to making a living out of it.
575
00:30:05,972 --> 00:30:07,073
>> When you
appeared in my imagination.
576
00:30:07,073 --> 00:30:08,107
>> He's always been
just Bill Withers to me.
577
00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:09,475
And I'm sure that's
what you feel too.
578
00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:10,676
And I don't think he would want
it any different, you know.
579
00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:11,944
>> My real life was when
I was just a working guy.
580
00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:12,879
Just in the Navy, just a
mechanic, you know what I mean.
581
00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:14,113
But the true measure
of any group
582
00:30:14,113 --> 00:30:15,181
of people is how are the
ones that are just people?'
583
00:30:15,181 --> 00:30:16,182
>> You were
here in my memory.
584
00:30:16,182 --> 00:30:17,583
And I love you now
that you're here.
585
00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:18,017
>> I was an aircraft mechanic,
I was in the Navy nine years.
586
00:30:18,017 --> 00:30:18,650
>> Okay.
587
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:19,185
>> Is that right?
588
00:30:20,386 --> 00:30:20,786
>> I can do masonry and
all these kind of things.
589
00:30:20,786 --> 00:30:22,054
Now.
590
00:30:22,054 --> 00:30:23,455
>> Were you writing songs
while you were doing that?
591
00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:24,756
>> I've written songs working at
McDonnell Douglas sounded like
592
00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:26,025
"Use Me", you know, working
on an airplane and things.
593
00:30:26,025 --> 00:30:26,458
You know, Grandma's Hands,
Weber Aircraft in Burbank.
594
00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:27,093
>> Yeah.
595
00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:28,027
>> Is that right?
596
00:30:28,027 --> 00:30:29,361
>> You understand
what I'm saying?
597
00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:30,629
You're working on the thing
and singing it over and over
598
00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:31,063
to yourself so you don't
forget it before you get home.
599
00:30:31,063 --> 00:30:31,830
>> Wow.
600
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,165
>> You know what's funny?
601
00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:34,166
People say, "Yeah, he wrote
that song about that woman."
602
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,001
I didn't know none
of them damn women
603
00:30:35,001 --> 00:30:35,701
when I was writing them songs.
604
00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:36,502
>> Just in your mind.
605
00:30:36,502 --> 00:30:37,703
>> I couldn't get no women.
606
00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:38,337
I was making 3 dollars an
hour working
607
00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:39,105
in the damn thing!
608
00:30:39,105 --> 00:30:40,539
>> Uno, dos, tres, cuatro.
609
00:30:43,109 --> 00:30:46,678
>>
I was 23 years old,
610
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:51,918
I was a graduate student,
UCLA, working on my MBA.
611
00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:56,088
And my sister and I decided we
wanted-- actually, it was me.
612
00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:58,324
I wanted to go see
Gil Scott-Heron.
613
00:30:58,324 --> 00:31:00,192
>> You see that black
boy over there, running scared.
614
00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:01,627
His old man's in a bottle.
615
00:31:01,627 --> 00:31:03,129
>> There's a vacant table.
616
00:31:03,129 --> 00:31:04,663
She said, "Let's go sit there."
617
00:31:04,663 --> 00:31:06,198
I said, "It says reserved."
618
00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:09,735
And lo and behold, it
was Bill sitting there,
619
00:31:09,735 --> 00:31:10,469
which I didn't know.
620
00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:12,438
She recognized him.
621
00:31:12,438 --> 00:31:14,740
And that's how I met him.
622
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:17,243
>> There's
people living in the bottle.
623
00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:20,980
>> You know, I wasn't
star struck at all.
624
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:23,149
He was this regular,
normal person.
625
00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:25,317
He was interesting.
626
00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:26,685
He was interested in me.
627
00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:28,754
>> Well now
when I'm kissing my love.
628
00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:31,390
Yeah. Thump-a-thumping
in my head.
629
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:34,160
And now, when I'm
kissing my love.
630
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:40,933
I close my eyes and
see a pretty city
631
00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:48,975
with a million flowers in it.
632
00:31:48,975 --> 00:31:50,276
>> A lot
633
00:31:50,276 --> 00:31:54,480
of men can't express what
they're feeling and he can.
634
00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,453
He can, you know, he's
sensitive but tough.
635
00:32:01,453 --> 00:32:04,390
>> Put
your foot on the rock
636
00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:07,726
and touch your foot, don't stop.
637
00:32:07,726 --> 00:32:09,128
Put your foot on the rock.
638
00:32:09,128 --> 00:32:13,499
Put your foot on the rock
I know you just can't stop.
639
00:32:13,499 --> 00:32:14,933
Put your foot on the rock.
640
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,702
And now when I'm
kissing my love,
641
00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:19,571
feel the blood pumping
in my veins.
642
00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:23,709
Now, when I'm kissing my love,
she's such a tender sender
643
00:32:23,709 --> 00:32:26,312
with her sweet young frame.
644
00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:28,014
Ah, ha, ha.
645
00:32:28,014 --> 00:32:31,317
Well now, she's so
good at what she does.
646
00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:36,222
All she wants to
do is kiss and hug.
647
00:32:36,222 --> 00:32:42,028
She's got me in love and I
can feel my heart just pumping
648
00:32:42,028 --> 00:32:43,562
and skipping.
649
00:32:43,562 --> 00:32:45,631
When I'm kissing my love.
650
00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:46,598
>>
As soon as I figured
651
00:32:46,598 --> 00:32:49,568
out who I was, I married an MBA.
652
00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:50,602
You know what I mean?
653
00:32:50,602 --> 00:32:53,372
The one thing about Marcia is--
654
00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:59,078
Marcia is an optimist in
the face of everything.
655
00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:02,881
>> We live a life that is
comfortable and simple.
656
00:33:02,881 --> 00:33:05,617
And I think that [background
music] Bill never really wanted,
657
00:33:05,617 --> 00:33:08,820
you know all these riches
and material things.
658
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,223
When the kids came
along, he was home a lot.
659
00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:13,025
He didn't do a lot of touring.
660
00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:15,061
There were times when I'm
sure he really missed being
661
00:33:15,061 --> 00:33:17,996
in the business, making music.
662
00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:22,501
But I think that it was
more important for him
663
00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:24,036
to have a life and a family.
664
00:33:24,036 --> 00:33:25,971
He had never had
a family before.
665
00:33:25,971 --> 00:33:29,075
He had his mother, but his
dad died when he was 13,
666
00:33:29,075 --> 00:33:30,842
and I think it was
really important for him
667
00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:33,512
to be a father to the kids.
668
00:33:45,057 --> 00:33:54,133
>> I get a warm
summer feeling walking
669
00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:56,368
through the snow.
670
00:33:56,368 --> 00:34:03,575
Even chilly darkness
has the brightest glow.
671
00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:10,216
And I just love you so.
672
00:34:10,216 --> 00:34:16,188
>>
From very early on,
673
00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:19,191
my father played a
lot of music at home.
674
00:34:19,191 --> 00:34:21,227
Music was never something
that was pushed,
675
00:34:21,227 --> 00:34:22,594
it was just always there.
676
00:34:22,594 --> 00:34:25,931
We had two pianos at home, on
opposite sides of the house.
677
00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:29,701
It certainly was something that
blended the family together.
678
00:34:29,701 --> 00:34:31,370
It was something we all shared.
679
00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:32,438
>> Okay.
680
00:34:32,438 --> 00:34:33,139
>> So you guys have
always --
681
00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,206
>> You're the navigator.
682
00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:35,407
>> Okay
683
00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,443
>> You're getting the
tour so they're damn good.
684
00:34:37,443 --> 00:34:38,977
>> This was Todd's big day.
685
00:34:38,977 --> 00:34:42,381
He's, you know, accepted
into this law school.
686
00:34:42,381 --> 00:34:43,582
>> Exciting!
687
00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:47,353
>> It's exciting for him
and it's exciting for us.
688
00:34:47,353 --> 00:34:52,524
I really learned about this
whole family thing from Marcia.
689
00:34:52,524 --> 00:34:56,862
I think the older you get,
the more your concerns shift
690
00:34:56,862 --> 00:34:58,764
from you to other people.
691
00:34:58,764 --> 00:35:03,569
So, Todd, so do I have to
start calling you mister
692
00:35:03,569 --> 00:35:05,137
in a couple years?
693
00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:08,307
>> Growing up listening
to my dad's songs was just
694
00:35:08,307 --> 00:35:12,043
like the most peaceful
space I remember being able
695
00:35:12,043 --> 00:35:13,111
to have as a child.
696
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:16,882
And he kind of speaks
in little poems.
697
00:35:16,882 --> 00:35:20,419
You know, the sky is blue
and I'm happy to see you.
698
00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:23,255
You know just-- he just would
pull it out of anywhere.
699
00:35:23,255 --> 00:35:25,591
Quit crying and start trying.
700
00:35:25,591 --> 00:35:27,826
A lot of times he says,
"Write this down."
701
00:35:27,826 --> 00:35:30,529
He says, "Get a pencil,"
you know, "write this down,"
702
00:35:30,529 --> 00:35:33,565
and I'm sure my mother has
hundreds of little pieces
703
00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:36,468
of paper just all over the house
and just not even full songs,
704
00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:39,638
but two lines, you
know, just a thought.
705
00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:41,640
>> Chuck of gold.
706
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,074
>> Sometimes
he'll call me just to say that,
707
00:35:43,074 --> 00:35:45,711
"I was thinking this and I
want you to make a note of it."
708
00:35:45,711 --> 00:35:49,815
And then some of those things
I think make it into Songville.
709
00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:52,584
>> Let
me in your life.
710
00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:56,822
>> Growing up, I always wanted
to be just like my dad, really.
711
00:35:56,822 --> 00:36:00,492
When I started writing songs,
it just took a lot of courage
712
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:04,162
to say that's really, secretly,
you know, what I want to do.
713
00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:08,400
>> Paint a
portrait of tomorrow
714
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:15,474
with no colors from today.
715
00:36:15,474 --> 00:36:17,876
>> I always wanted to
write, but I always thought,
716
00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:20,512
"How could I ever come
close to doing the types
717
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:21,613
of things that he did?"
718
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:23,549
Just because I know
I'm a different person.
719
00:36:23,549 --> 00:36:26,318
I knew I wasn't going
to, you know,
720
00:36:26,318 --> 00:36:28,520
sit down the first time I
picked a guitar and write
721
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,891
"Ain't No Sunshine", but I
know what he thinks is good.
722
00:36:32,891 --> 00:36:35,160
I really didn't want to
share anything with him.
723
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,195
I ended up, you know,
playing something for him
724
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:40,232
when I wasn't ready, and
he was just like, "No,
725
00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:41,567
this is not happening."
726
00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:45,537
It was hard for me because I
needed him to just be my dad
727
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,740
and just say, "I'm proud
of you that you're working
728
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,677
on something, or I'm
excited about your journey."
729
00:36:51,677 --> 00:36:53,512
And I mean it was none of that.
730
00:36:57,316 --> 00:37:00,719
One thing
I always tell my kids is,
731
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,756
you know, it's okay to hit out
for wonderful, but on your way
732
00:37:04,756 --> 00:37:08,126
to wonderful, you're going to
have to pass through all right.
733
00:37:08,126 --> 00:37:11,597
And when you get to all
right, take a good look around
734
00:37:11,597 --> 00:37:14,032
and get used to it,
'cause that may be as far
735
00:37:14,032 --> 00:37:15,667
as you're going to go.
736
00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:20,706
Most people don't know or
don't care who you are.
737
00:37:20,706 --> 00:37:22,508
You know, I think I'm
kind of like pennies.
738
00:37:22,508 --> 00:37:24,476
You have them in your pocket
739
00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:26,878
but you don't remember
they're there.
740
00:37:26,878 --> 00:37:30,449
Nobody knows who I am.
741
00:37:30,449 --> 00:37:32,618
Sometimes if I tell
somebody who I am,
742
00:37:32,618 --> 00:37:34,219
they'll say, "No, you ain't!"
743
00:37:34,219 --> 00:37:38,490
Or people just don't know,
never did and don't care.
744
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:41,092
I mean I don't work this circuit
745
00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:44,830
where you keep reminding
people of you, you know?
746
00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:49,335
This is my first
tribute kind-of-thing.
747
00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:52,438
>> We're here tonight
for Bill Withers
748
00:37:52,438 --> 00:37:56,041
and his amazing catalogue
of music.
749
00:37:56,041 --> 00:38:01,480
An amazing vocalist, songwriter,
musician, and someone I've loved
750
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,148
and appreciated for many years.
751
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:05,384
So congratulations, Bill,
752
00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:10,389
and for you for coming
out to support him.
753
00:38:10,389 --> 00:38:11,857
So thank you.
754
00:38:11,857 --> 00:38:13,992
>> Brooklyn's own Corey Glover!
755
00:38:13,992 --> 00:38:23,068
A man we passed
just tried to stare me down.
756
00:38:24,336 --> 00:38:30,141
And when I looked at you,
you looked at the ground.
757
00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:39,217
Now, I don't know who he
is, but I think that you do.
758
00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:43,655
You all know this one.
759
00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:49,428
Dadgummit, who is he
and what is he to you?
760
00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:08,279
Memories take you back
761
00:39:08,279 --> 00:39:12,918
to the good times
when it's over.
762
00:39:12,918 --> 00:39:17,022
And the sad times disappear.
763
00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:20,959
>> It would be kind of rough
right now to just go out there
764
00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:24,796
and just say, "I want to just
see how many people I can make
765
00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:25,997
notice me."
766
00:39:25,997 --> 00:39:29,134
There was a time when that
was, that was it, huh.
767
00:39:29,134 --> 00:39:32,538
I want everybody to look at me
and everybody to want to know me
768
00:39:32,538 --> 00:39:38,544
and everybody is-- there
was a time for that.
769
00:39:38,544 --> 00:39:41,713
This is not that time.
770
00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,149
What if I had to get
up from here right now
771
00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:47,118
and about 9 o'clock tonight,
772
00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:50,722
start trying to kick
up a ruckus?
773
00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:53,692
I'm not feeling that way.
774
00:39:53,692 --> 00:39:56,061
No matter how many people
say, "You should feel
775
00:39:56,061 --> 00:40:00,031
that way because-- " I can't.
776
00:40:00,031 --> 00:40:02,868
If I was completely
honest with myself,
777
00:40:02,868 --> 00:40:05,036
I'm probably a little
manic-depressive.
778
00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:07,238
That's why maybe I
might write some songs
779
00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:11,843
that might reach somebody else's
emotions, because I have some.
780
00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:14,813
I have my own.
781
00:40:14,813 --> 00:40:18,550
Wouldn't it be fun to say to
just all of a sudden just jump
782
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:20,986
up and start shaking it around?
783
00:40:20,986 --> 00:40:22,988
That would be something.
784
00:40:22,988 --> 00:40:27,793
If I just had some
showing-off steroids, man,
785
00:40:27,793 --> 00:40:30,462
you would get tired of
me, you know what I mean?
786
00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:31,697
I just want to.
787
00:40:31,697 --> 00:40:34,065
And I want to.
788
00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:35,400
I want to.
789
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,769
I sit here, I watch other people
show off, and I say, "Man,
790
00:40:37,769 --> 00:40:40,438
I used to want to show off."
791
00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:46,377
If I could just get,
you know, moved to.
792
00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:50,315
I need a little injection in
my showing-off gland, you know.
793
00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:52,083
>> Memories
are that way.
794
00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:57,155
>> And
is he going to sing again?
795
00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:58,256
What is he doing?
796
00:40:58,256 --> 00:41:00,158
I would love to see Bill
sing another record.
797
00:41:00,158 --> 00:41:04,530
There's millions and millions of
people that would love to see,
798
00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:06,331
hear Bill Withers again.
799
00:41:06,331 --> 00:41:09,968
If he wants to do it, fine.
800
00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:11,970
If he don't want to do
it, I respect that too,
801
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,973
because what he's been through,
with the record business
802
00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:19,645
and his life, and to come
through it, I may not want
803
00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:20,846
to sing again neither.
804
00:41:20,846 --> 00:41:23,081
>> In some ways I
think it's really cool
805
00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:25,551
that he hasn't made
a record since 1985.
806
00:41:25,551 --> 00:41:27,352
'Cause if he feels like
he hasn't anything to say,
807
00:41:27,352 --> 00:41:30,121
or he just wanted to focus on
his family and stuff like that,
808
00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:32,991
you've got to define your
priorities for yourself.
809
00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:38,296
>> For me, it shows
the artist that he is.
810
00:41:38,296 --> 00:41:41,867
It's not only about money, it's
about the beauty of the song.
811
00:41:41,867 --> 00:41:48,073
For him not to write a song
for-- any album for 23 years,
812
00:41:48,073 --> 00:41:50,508
from me to him, I say,
respect .
813
00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:53,511
>> It would be great to do
some stuff with Bill again.
814
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:57,649
You know, it would be, you know,
I've always thought about that.
815
00:41:57,649 --> 00:41:59,751
We haven't played together
for I guess 30 years.
816
00:41:59,751 --> 00:42:04,890
In my career, that was probably
the best times that I had.
817
00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:06,291
>> No telling what might happen.
818
00:42:06,291 --> 00:42:09,360
Bill might, you know, pop up and
the next thing you know we're
819
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,796
in the studio doing
something, you know.
820
00:42:10,796 --> 00:42:12,163
But he is always
doing something,
821
00:42:12,163 --> 00:42:13,832
don't think Bill's
not recording.
822
00:42:13,832 --> 00:42:15,533
He is doing something,
he is writing.
823
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:18,036
It's in his blood, you
know, he's writing.
824
00:42:18,036 --> 00:42:19,537
Just like it's in my
blood to play this guitar,
825
00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:20,972
it's in his blood to write.
826
00:42:20,972 --> 00:42:24,710
So, hey man, something
might pop up, you know.
827
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:26,477
I'll stay optimistic, you know.
828
00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:29,180
But until that, I'll
keep on grooving.
829
00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:31,182
>> The hardest thing
to be in a--
830
00:42:31,182 --> 00:42:35,053
in song writing is to be
simple and yet profound.
831
00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:39,524
And it's difficult, it's
a very difficult art form.
832
00:42:39,524 --> 00:42:45,196
Some people have it
intrinsically, some people have
833
00:42:45,196 --> 00:42:48,734
to work very hard,
but Bill seemed
834
00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:51,970
to understand intrinsically,
instinctively how to do that.
835
00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:54,706
>> Bill Withers can work a
whole lot and make a whole lot
836
00:42:54,706 --> 00:42:56,675
of money if he wanted
to do that,
837
00:42:56,675 --> 00:42:58,509
but I don't think he's
comfortable doing that.
838
00:42:58,509 --> 00:42:59,945
'Cause I've called him time--
839
00:42:59,945 --> 00:43:02,080
people call me all the
time, "Can I get Bill?"
840
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,449
I say, "Hey man, don't
call me, you know,
841
00:43:04,449 --> 00:43:06,484
'cause I don't think
he's going to do it."
842
00:43:23,201 --> 00:43:27,005
>>
We are so remiss
843
00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:34,813
in overvaluing entertainers,
of which I am one, no problem.
844
00:43:34,813 --> 00:43:40,986
And athletes, and
undervaluing the people among us
845
00:43:40,986 --> 00:43:43,588
who have less obvious gifts.
846
00:43:43,588 --> 00:43:46,858
>> Let me ask you this
question about your own legacy,
847
00:43:46,858 --> 00:43:51,629
both personally, as a human
being, and as a great artist,
848
00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:55,533
that you are, what would
you want your legacy to be?
849
00:44:08,013 --> 00:44:12,117
>> I'm in New
York because I have the pleasure
850
00:44:12,117 --> 00:44:16,221
of being honored by the
Our Time Theatre Group,
851
00:44:16,221 --> 00:44:18,256
and that's for kids who stutter.
852
00:44:18,256 --> 00:44:21,292
And it's a great thing,
it's very close to my heart.
853
00:44:21,292 --> 00:44:25,997
Having navigated
through my youth and well
854
00:44:25,997 --> 00:44:31,669
into my adulthood dealing
with that issue, it's fun to,
855
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:36,507
you know, see this thing grow.
856
00:44:47,118 --> 00:44:50,822
>> I grew up in a place called
Slab Fork, West Virginia,
857
00:44:50,822 --> 00:44:52,891
I'm sure you've been
there on many vacations.
858
00:44:52,891 --> 00:44:57,195
Swam in our creek.
859
00:44:57,195 --> 00:45:02,934
No disrespect to Slab Fork,
it's a coal-mining camp.
860
00:45:02,934 --> 00:45:06,204
And stuttering is rough
for kids, but stuttering
861
00:45:06,204 --> 00:45:07,806
in Slab Fork, West Virginia--
862
00:45:07,806 --> 00:45:12,543
let's just say you don't go to
Slab Fork on the scholarship.
863
00:45:12,543 --> 00:45:14,846
When you're a kid, you want
to be cool and you want
864
00:45:14,846 --> 00:45:17,783
to be cool with the cool people.
865
00:45:17,783 --> 00:45:22,220
And that doesn't always
happen, so if you can learn
866
00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:25,056
to value the people
who value you.
867
00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:29,594
And I was very moved when
I saw these kids talking
868
00:45:29,594 --> 00:45:31,930
about how much they
meant to each other.
869
00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:34,833
I am honored to be
honored, and let's hope
870
00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:42,473
that each kid finds his
own personal comfort zone,
871
00:45:42,473 --> 00:45:46,177
where he can grow and
nurture whatever gifts
872
00:45:46,177 --> 00:45:49,247
that he might have because
if you take away the people
873
00:45:49,247 --> 00:45:52,283
who stutter from the world,
874
00:45:52,283 --> 00:45:55,520
you're left with a
whole bunch of chatty.
875
00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:04,662
Fill in your own word.
876
00:46:06,031 --> 00:46:10,969
>> The kids
are so excited to meet you,
877
00:46:10,969 --> 00:46:13,504
I've been playing your
music, and they cannot wait
878
00:46:13,504 --> 00:46:15,673
to meet you and talk with you.
879
00:46:15,673 --> 00:46:16,908
>> Yeah.
880
00:46:16,908 --> 00:46:18,176
>> So, you are a role
model for me, and for them.
881
00:46:18,176 --> 00:46:19,610
>> Oh, thank you, bud, yeah.
882
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:20,511
Let's go see them.
883
00:46:20,511 --> 00:46:21,079
>> Here, right here.
884
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:21,646
>> All right.
885
00:46:21,646 --> 00:46:25,250
>> Come on in.
886
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:26,617
>> Okay.
887
00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:29,487
>> Ladies and gentlemen, may
I introduce Mr. Bill Withers.
888
00:46:33,691 --> 00:46:35,160
>> Cool.
889
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:42,000
>> You guys having a-- Our
Time kids, feel free to come up
890
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,036
and introduce yourself.
891
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:46,271
>> Yeah.
892
00:46:46,271 --> 00:46:49,640
>> Hi, my name is Victoria.
893
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,141
>> Hi, sweetie.
894
00:46:50,141 --> 00:46:50,708
>> Tanya.
895
00:46:50,708 --> 00:46:51,376
>> Hi, sweetie.
896
00:46:51,376 --> 00:46:52,477
>> Nice to meet you.
897
00:46:52,477 --> 00:46:53,011
>> I'm all right, how
you feeling, buddy?
898
00:46:53,011 --> 00:46:53,511
>> I'm good.
899
00:46:53,511 --> 00:46:54,545
>> My man.
900
00:46:54,545 --> 00:46:55,646
What's your name?
901
00:46:55,646 --> 00:46:56,281
>> Joe.
902
00:46:56,281 --> 00:46:57,248
>> All right, Joe.
903
00:46:57,248 --> 00:46:58,749
You know
what I noticed
904
00:46:58,749 --> 00:47:03,354
when we were meeting is it's
almost like fingerprints.
905
00:47:03,354 --> 00:47:06,657
We each have our own
style of stutterings,
906
00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:08,493
which makes us unique.
907
00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:13,164
I really identified with
people who stop at their name.
908
00:47:13,164 --> 00:47:14,799
Last night this friend of mine,
909
00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:19,004
who's a fairly well-known
painter, had this thing,
910
00:47:19,004 --> 00:47:22,507
so there were a lot of athletes
and people that I had seen
911
00:47:22,507 --> 00:47:24,609
in my life, so I
wanted to say hello
912
00:47:24,609 --> 00:47:27,545
to everybody and
introduce myself.
913
00:47:27,545 --> 00:47:32,683
And I went over to this one
guy, and man, I got stuck.
914
00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:35,320
And it brought back memories,
because there was a woman
915
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,790
with him and she
started to laugh.
916
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:41,359
It was fear.
917
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:46,497
Fear of the perception
of the listener.
918
00:47:46,497 --> 00:47:49,935
This fear that makes us
apprehensive right at the point
919
00:47:49,935 --> 00:47:52,737
of trying to speak,
that stops us.
920
00:47:52,737 --> 00:47:56,307
Well, one of the ways
to deal with the fear is
921
00:47:56,307 --> 00:48:01,246
to approach people with
a prepared forgiveness.
922
00:48:01,246 --> 00:48:03,949
We have to be more
civil than most people
923
00:48:03,949 --> 00:48:05,783
that we will encounter.
924
00:48:05,783 --> 00:48:11,056
Having had people not understand
me a lot maybe helped me wait a
925
00:48:11,056 --> 00:48:14,592
little beat to where
I can extend something
926
00:48:14,592 --> 00:48:16,661
that hasn't been given to me.
927
00:48:16,661 --> 00:48:19,197
And I think that makes
you a much bigger person.
928
00:48:19,197 --> 00:48:22,167
>> We are thrilled to have
you here, and everything
929
00:48:22,167 --> 00:48:25,703
that you said just means so much
to me personally, and we'd love
930
00:48:25,703 --> 00:48:27,738
to sing for you today.
931
00:48:27,738 --> 00:48:29,307
>> I would have been insulted
932
00:48:29,307 --> 00:48:34,812
if you would have not
done something for me.
933
00:48:35,646 --> 00:48:36,614
>> Sometimes I feel
934
00:48:36,614 --> 00:48:40,818
like everyone's always
ignoring me.
935
00:48:40,818 --> 00:48:49,327
Sometimes I feel like
everyone's always ridiculing me.
936
00:48:49,327 --> 00:48:56,367
All I want in this
whole world is
937
00:48:56,367 --> 00:49:01,639
to be myself, and nobody else.
938
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:09,047
All I want in this whole world
is love, is love, is love.
939
00:49:09,047 --> 00:49:18,123
All I want in this
world is love.
940
00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:29,367
All I want in this
world is love.
941
00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:38,643
All I want in this
world is love.
942
00:49:40,011 --> 00:49:41,479
>> Yeah.
943
00:49:47,918 --> 00:49:51,489
>> I understood what
you meant, you know.
944
00:49:51,489 --> 00:49:54,925
There's an old Southern
saying that says, you know,
945
00:49:54,925 --> 00:49:59,030
it don't sound right
if it ain't said right.
946
00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:02,733
You know. So you guys are
saying, your feeling's right,
947
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:06,737
so keep, you know,
just keep doing that.
948
00:50:06,737 --> 00:50:11,409
And it's really a big favor
to me, you know, for you guys
949
00:50:11,409 --> 00:50:14,912
to remind me of some things
that maybe I had forgotten,
950
00:50:14,912 --> 00:50:20,551
and maybe some-- to show me
some things that I didn't know.
951
00:50:20,551 --> 00:50:23,521
So, you guys are cool.
952
00:50:41,572 --> 00:50:44,642
And next time I see you I
probably won't be this nice.
953
00:50:44,642 --> 00:50:51,549
We have to make
allowances for each other.
954
00:51:05,029 --> 00:51:08,233
Thoreau I think said the mass
955
00:51:08,233 --> 00:51:11,802
of men lead lives of
quiet desperation.
956
00:51:11,802 --> 00:51:13,504
I would like to know
how it feels
957
00:51:13,504 --> 00:51:16,507
for my desperation
to get louder.
958
00:51:22,547 --> 00:51:25,049
Yes,
Raul Midon, please.
959
00:51:25,049 --> 00:51:26,551
>> Hello.
960
00:51:26,551 --> 00:51:28,653
>> Hello, Raul.
961
00:51:28,653 --> 00:51:29,454
>> Yes.
962
00:51:29,454 --> 00:51:30,788
>> It's Bill Withers.
963
00:51:30,788 --> 00:51:31,789
How you doing, bud?
964
00:51:31,789 --> 00:51:33,591
>> Oh, good.
965
00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:37,362
>> I was hoping that at some
point or another, you know,
966
00:51:37,362 --> 00:51:41,031
that you would maybe
have just a little time
967
00:51:41,031 --> 00:51:43,968
so we could just mess
around, you know?
968
00:51:43,968 --> 00:51:47,305
Just you and me, you know,
we could plonk around,
969
00:51:47,305 --> 00:51:50,175
I'll even break out my
old Linn drum machine
970
00:51:50,175 --> 00:51:54,078
to make some noise,
you know what I mean?
971
00:51:54,078 --> 00:51:55,480
>> I don't know what to say.
972
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,583
I'm just so happy that you're
interested and man, you know,
973
00:51:58,583 --> 00:52:00,618
I'd love to put our
heads together.
974
00:52:00,618 --> 00:52:03,588
>> I'd like to try
something out on you, Raul.
975
00:52:03,588 --> 00:52:04,989
>> Okay.
976
00:52:04,989 --> 00:52:09,894
>> Because I've always wanted
to write something in Spanish.
977
00:52:09,894 --> 00:52:14,832
I had a friend, a Cuban
friend, and we worked together
978
00:52:14,832 --> 00:52:18,736
and we laughed all the
time, and it was just great.
979
00:52:18,736 --> 00:52:22,540
And I really miss him, you know?
980
00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:23,541
>> Yeah.
981
00:52:23,541 --> 00:52:25,576
>> What I was thinking,
to start off,
982
00:52:25,576 --> 00:52:31,081
"Mi amigo Cubano,
hola, como esta?
983
00:52:31,081 --> 00:52:34,752
Que paso, mi hermano," and I
don't know whether you would say
984
00:52:34,752 --> 00:52:37,054
"tu" or "usted" there,
but one or the other.
985
00:52:37,054 --> 00:52:41,091
I'll just say "tu y
yo no mas hablar."
986
00:52:41,091 --> 00:52:44,028
>> Yeah, "tu", definitely,
because you're good friends.
987
00:52:44,028 --> 00:52:47,064
>> Now your background
is what, Raul?
988
00:52:47,064 --> 00:52:51,202
>> My background is my
mother was African-American
989
00:52:51,202 --> 00:52:53,871
and my father is Argentinian.
990
00:52:53,871 --> 00:52:57,975
When I lived in Miami, I
got very deeply involved
991
00:52:57,975 --> 00:53:01,045
in Cuban music, the
music called guaguanco.
992
00:53:01,045 --> 00:53:02,046
>> Oh.
993
00:53:02,046 --> 00:53:03,581
>> In guaguanco,
everything goes together
994
00:53:03,581 --> 00:53:06,050
so there's the clave, right?
995
00:53:06,484 --> 00:53:07,885
>> Okay.
996
00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:12,089
>> And then it goes boom boom
boom boom, boom boom boom boom,
997
00:53:12,089 --> 00:53:13,724
boom boom boom boom, you know?
998
00:53:13,724 --> 00:53:16,627
As you're doing all
that, you sing,
999
00:53:16,627 --> 00:53:19,864
and you keep all that going.
1000
00:53:19,864 --> 00:53:25,503
Ae, ae, ae la chambelona,
ae, ae, ae la chambelona.
1001
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,041
You know what I'm saying?'
1002
00:53:31,041 --> 00:53:32,277
>> Yeah, Raul.
1003
00:53:32,277 --> 00:53:37,882
Yeah,
man, we're going to use all
1004
00:53:37,882 --> 00:53:39,550
that stuff you know, Raul.
1005
00:53:39,550 --> 00:53:43,421
That's about all the preview
I would like to do on that.
1006
00:53:43,421 --> 00:53:46,824
Let's just walk in with
a blank sheet of paper
1007
00:53:46,824 --> 00:53:49,059
and see what we can mark on it.
1008
00:53:49,059 --> 00:53:50,595
>> Sounds good to me.
1009
00:53:50,595 --> 00:53:51,996
>> Yeah.
1010
00:53:51,996 --> 00:53:57,435
>> Sometimes a song
is funky cos you feel that way.
1011
00:53:57,435 --> 00:54:05,310
A song might be easy and
melancholy on another day.
1012
00:54:05,310 --> 00:54:10,448
Sometimes a song gets mean and
evil cos it ain't going right.
1013
00:54:10,448 --> 00:54:15,119
Sometimes a song just might
get nervous cos you might
1014
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:16,454
be uptight.
1015
00:54:16,454 --> 00:54:19,724
>> I don't even know what
chords he has for it, you know,
1016
00:54:19,724 --> 00:54:24,329
so it's all going to be kind
of a question of openness.
1017
00:54:24,329 --> 00:54:28,933
I'm going to bring what I have
to the table and hopefully,
1018
00:54:28,933 --> 00:54:30,100
you know, come up
with something.
1019
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,169
I mean, I just felt
very honored.
1020
00:54:32,169 --> 00:54:33,571
>> Dad?
1021
00:54:33,571 --> 00:54:37,642
>> Sometimes a song is
tender, sometimes a song is sad.
1022
00:54:37,642 --> 00:54:39,344
>>
Oh, this is Raul.
1023
00:54:39,344 --> 00:54:40,177
Hey, bud.
1024
00:54:40,177 --> 00:54:41,579
>> Maybe that evening
1025
00:54:41,579 --> 00:54:47,652
that you wrote the song that's
all the feeling you had.
1026
00:54:47,652 --> 00:54:48,586
>> How you doing, Raul?
1027
00:54:48,586 --> 00:54:50,154
Let's walk in here
to the studio.
1028
00:54:50,154 --> 00:54:53,424
>> Sometimes a
song just feels real good
1029
00:54:53,424 --> 00:54:55,192
and lays right there
in the groove.
1030
00:54:55,192 --> 00:54:56,260
>> Feels like a studio.
1031
00:54:56,260 --> 00:54:57,328
>> Yeah?
1032
00:54:57,328 --> 00:54:58,929
>> I'm going to be
largely dependent on you
1033
00:54:58,929 --> 00:55:02,567
because I have no skills, Raul.
1034
00:55:02,567 --> 00:55:03,267
See, you're the--
1035
00:55:03,267 --> 00:55:04,201
>> Well, I am-- yeah.
1036
00:55:04,201 --> 00:55:05,403
>> You are the virtuoso.
1037
00:55:05,403 --> 00:55:06,771
No, I'm serious.
1038
00:55:06,771 --> 00:55:10,941
I got this stuff in here, I
can't play any of this stuff.
1039
00:55:12,242 --> 00:55:13,878
>> I learned, you know what,
instead of putting myself
1040
00:55:13,878 --> 00:55:19,384
in a situation where my
blindness makes me inferior,
1041
00:55:19,384 --> 00:55:20,885
I'm going to create a situation
1042
00:55:20,885 --> 00:55:23,588
where I can put my
strengths out there.
1043
00:55:23,588 --> 00:55:27,592
I think that when you're
disabled in any way
1044
00:55:27,592 --> 00:55:29,960
or when you have
some, I think you have
1045
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,629
to figure out how you learn.
1046
00:55:31,629 --> 00:55:34,832
>> But you know what, Raul,
you use the word disabled.
1047
00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:35,766
>> Right.
1048
00:55:35,766 --> 00:55:40,304
>> You are enabled
in other areas
1049
00:55:40,304 --> 00:55:42,440
that the average
person doesn't have.
1050
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,275
I was a stutterer
until I was 28.
1051
00:55:45,275 --> 00:55:49,647
I used to avoid the phone
and, you know, just anywhere
1052
00:55:49,647 --> 00:55:52,016
where you had to talk.
1053
00:55:52,016 --> 00:55:55,085
And people would get up
in your face and say,
1054
00:55:55,085 --> 00:55:57,154
"Spit it out, spit it out!"
1055
00:55:57,154 --> 00:56:01,025
as if you had a choice in the
matter, you know what I mean?
1056
00:56:01,025 --> 00:56:02,159
>> Yeah.
1057
00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:04,695
>> As if you got in that
line and said, "Well,
1058
00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:06,263
I think I'm going to
get in," you know,
1059
00:56:06,263 --> 00:56:09,266
when you're getting ready
to be born, you know, like,
1060
00:56:09,266 --> 00:56:11,235
"I think I'll get in
the stuttering line."
1061
00:56:11,235 --> 00:56:15,473
And the
thing is, what do you do
1062
00:56:15,473 --> 00:56:17,875
after you find out you're here?
1063
00:56:17,875 --> 00:56:20,678
So then, you know,
there was a phrase
1064
00:56:20,678 --> 00:56:23,914
that I kept batting
around, "In my mind's eye,
1065
00:56:23,914 --> 00:56:26,050
I can see the world from here."
1066
00:56:26,050 --> 00:56:27,952
>> Right. Wow.
1067
00:56:27,952 --> 00:56:28,853
>> How's that?
1068
00:56:28,853 --> 00:56:30,120
>> I love it.
1069
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,523
>> You want to play
with that later?
1070
00:56:32,523 --> 00:56:33,858
>> Yes.
1071
00:56:33,858 --> 00:56:35,626
>> Why don't you write that
down so you don't forget it?
1072
00:56:35,626 --> 00:56:37,261
>> I'm writing it down.
1073
00:56:37,261 --> 00:56:38,696
I love
it, and it could be something
1074
00:56:38,696 --> 00:56:41,699
about being clear
with the mind--
1075
00:56:41,699 --> 00:56:43,100
>> Yeah, okay, write down clear.
1076
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,902
I can see the world from here.
1077
00:56:44,902 --> 00:56:46,637
>> Yeah. So because it's--
1078
00:56:46,637 --> 00:56:48,105
>> And sometimes I--
1079
00:56:48,105 --> 00:56:52,777
>> Because clarity, in the
mind's eye, is absolute.
1080
00:56:52,777 --> 00:56:54,178
It can be absolute.
1081
00:56:54,178 --> 00:56:57,414
>> Okay. Okay now let's
begin another line.
1082
00:56:57,414 --> 00:57:04,088
>> I can hear the dream,
my dream, so clear.
1083
00:57:04,088 --> 00:57:04,922
>> Yeah.
1084
00:57:04,922 --> 00:57:07,492
>> Just an idea, just an idea.
1085
00:57:07,492 --> 00:57:08,659
Okay.
1086
00:57:08,659 --> 00:57:09,860
>> That's good, Raul.
1087
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:10,995
That's good.
1088
00:57:10,995 --> 00:57:13,598
In my mind's eye, I can
see the world from here.
1089
00:57:13,598 --> 00:57:19,604
>> And sometimes I can
hear my dreams so clear.
1090
00:57:19,604 --> 00:57:21,371
>> Get
down, Raul, come on, brother.
1091
00:57:21,371 --> 00:57:23,173
Throw something in the pot.
1092
00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:24,008
There you go.
1093
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:26,611
>> Because people always
ask me about dreams.
1094
00:57:26,611 --> 00:57:28,579
"How do you dream
if you can't see?"
1095
00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:30,815
Well, I hear in my
dreams, don't you?
1096
00:57:30,815 --> 00:57:31,516
>> Yeah.
1097
00:57:31,516 --> 00:57:32,817
>> You know what I mean?
1098
00:57:32,817 --> 00:57:35,486
It's not about seeing, it's
about being in your dream.
1099
00:57:47,532 --> 00:57:51,001
>> I don't
know what would motivate someone
1100
00:57:51,001 --> 00:57:53,671
at the point in their
life that he's in,
1101
00:57:53,671 --> 00:57:55,239
with the break that he's taken.
1102
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:59,043
But I do know that he
has no problem throwing
1103
00:57:59,043 --> 00:58:00,711
down when he feels
like throwing down.
1104
00:58:00,711 --> 00:58:05,149
When he wants to do something,
I mean, he's just obsessed,
1105
00:58:05,149 --> 00:58:07,985
he's all in, up at 2 o'clock
in the morning, not eating,
1106
00:58:07,985 --> 00:58:10,788
not sleeping, and
that's exhausting.
1107
00:58:10,788 --> 00:58:14,258
>> Mi amigo Cubano.
1108
00:58:14,258 --> 00:58:15,225
>> Yeah.
1109
00:58:15,225 --> 00:58:20,164
No, I'm looking for
the count-in.
1110
00:58:20,164 --> 00:58:24,735
>> Hola, como esta?
1111
00:58:24,735 --> 00:58:28,472
Mi amigo Cubano.
1112
00:58:35,412 --> 00:58:39,483
Que paso, mi hermano?
1113
00:58:46,023 --> 00:58:50,494
Mi amigo Cubano.
1114
00:59:00,938 --> 00:59:03,240
>> There you go, Raul, that's
what I'm talking about, see.
1115
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,875
>> That was pretty
cool, actually.
1116
00:59:04,875 --> 00:59:08,579
>> You know, you know, it
all gets back to that thing.
1117
00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:11,882
If you start sweet, then
you got somewhere to go.
1118
00:59:11,882 --> 00:59:16,320
Let me go to 41 here and
see what's happening, Raul.
1119
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,689
Bear with me here,
one more time, okay?
1120
00:59:18,689 --> 00:59:22,192
Listen to this and then I'll
make my next edit, okay?
1121
00:59:22,192 --> 00:59:24,394
>>
Hola, como esta?
1122
00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:29,333
>> I think Bill is
always thinking of songs.
1123
00:59:29,333 --> 00:59:33,270
He has songs that he's created
over the last, you know, 10,
1124
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:36,807
15 years that are on tape.
1125
00:59:36,807 --> 00:59:41,111
He put a lot into
building that studio.
1126
00:59:41,111 --> 00:59:43,881
I think in his imagination,
he felt,
1127
00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:45,249
I'm going to do some music.
1128
00:59:45,249 --> 00:59:48,118
Whether or not he was going
to actually, you know,
1129
00:59:48,118 --> 00:59:50,420
put it out there,
that's another story.
1130
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:53,924
>> Background
Amigo Cubano.
1131
00:59:53,924 --> 00:59:54,959
>> Right.
1132
00:59:54,959 --> 00:59:56,093
>> Ba-do
be-da-go-do-go-dee.
1133
00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:59,163
>> Selfishly, it would
be fantastic, fantastic,
1134
00:59:59,163 --> 01:00:03,133
if he would put a-- you
know, get a record together
1135
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:06,103
and it'd be new music and
all that kind of stuff.
1136
01:00:06,103 --> 01:00:09,306
And it'd be fun,
but realistically,
1137
01:00:09,306 --> 01:00:11,341
I'm not sure that he wants that.
1138
01:00:11,341 --> 01:00:14,044
He just hasn't, you
know, wanted to get back
1139
01:00:14,044 --> 01:00:16,480
into the music business.
1140
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,516
>> Que
paso, mi hermano.
1141
01:00:23,053 --> 01:00:25,355
>> I'm going
to go to the Carnival here.
1142
01:00:27,725 --> 01:00:30,094
>> Mi amigo Cubano.
1143
01:00:30,094 --> 01:00:31,796
>> There it is, there.
1144
01:00:31,796 --> 01:00:34,164
>> Yeah, there it is.
1145
01:00:34,164 --> 01:00:36,033
Right, there it is.
1146
01:00:38,068 --> 01:00:42,539
>> Mi amigo Cubano.
1147
01:00:46,376 --> 01:00:50,147
It's got that hump.
1148
01:00:50,147 --> 01:00:52,616
>> Que
paso, mi hermano?
1149
01:00:52,616 --> 01:00:55,652
>> I
might just go in this frenzy,
1150
01:00:55,652 --> 01:01:00,090
you know, just become
obsessed with it every day.
1151
01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:02,827
All you hear is just
noise and me.
1152
01:01:02,827 --> 01:01:05,129
You know what I mean?
1153
01:01:05,129 --> 01:01:08,498
I would like that.
1154
01:01:20,044 --> 01:01:24,281
Let's figure it out.
1155
01:01:24,281 --> 01:01:26,316
Waay-oh.
1156
01:01:26,316 --> 01:01:32,156
There's just so much
about you that I like.
1157
01:01:32,156 --> 01:01:41,231
And it's been so good to know
how you've always been there
1158
01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:51,075
for me when I needed a friend.
1159
01:01:51,075 --> 01:01:55,045
And oh, by the way any time,
any time, any time of the night
1160
01:01:55,045 --> 01:02:04,054
or day I will be just
a telephone call away.
1161
01:02:05,689 --> 01:02:09,860
Come on, Kori, sing that bridge.
1162
01:02:09,860 --> 01:02:11,929
>> Say if you need me.
1163
01:02:11,929 --> 01:02:21,005
I'll always be just a
telephone call a-wa-a-ay.
1164
01:02:24,241 --> 01:02:28,278
>> Go ahead, sing it.
1165
01:02:28,278 --> 01:02:37,354
>> And oh, by the way
I just want to say any time,
1166
01:02:45,462 --> 01:02:54,538
any ti-ime, any time
of the night or day.
1167
01:03:01,278 --> 01:03:10,354
I will be ju-u-u-ust
a telephone call away.
1168
01:03:11,621 --> 01:03:12,456
>> Yeah.
1169
01:03:12,456 --> 01:03:19,329
>> Yeah. Let's get out of here.
1170
01:03:19,329 --> 01:03:24,368
>> That sounded really
nice .
1171
01:03:24,368 --> 01:03:39,583
>> But Kori, girl, we
can work that tune.
1172
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:41,952
>> We can.
1173
01:03:41,952 --> 01:03:47,091
>> We can do that song.
1174
01:03:47,091 --> 01:03:49,593
>> Yeah. As far as music goes,
1175
01:03:49,593 --> 01:03:53,563
I think my dad is a pretty
honest critic, and I really had
1176
01:03:53,563 --> 01:03:56,033
to toughen up and realize
that there's a difference
1177
01:03:56,033 --> 01:03:58,235
between someone criticizing you
1178
01:03:58,235 --> 01:04:00,770
in a way that's saying
you're untalented
1179
01:04:00,770 --> 01:04:03,473
and someone being a coach, you
know, someone saying, "Yeah,
1180
01:04:03,473 --> 01:04:05,575
that wasn't a strike."
1181
01:04:05,575 --> 01:04:08,378
>> You ain't no joke, sugar.
1182
01:04:08,378 --> 01:04:09,246
>> No.
1183
01:04:09,246 --> 01:04:10,347
>> You ain't no joke.
1184
01:04:10,347 --> 01:04:12,016
>> That was so great
to sing in that room.
1185
01:04:12,016 --> 01:04:13,150
The acoustic is there.
1186
01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:14,484
>> Yeah. You getting a
little grease on you,
1187
01:04:14,484 --> 01:04:16,753
that's what I'm talking
about, you understand?
1188
01:04:16,753 --> 01:04:20,324
You know, getting a little
grease on you, that's, you know,
1189
01:04:20,324 --> 01:04:28,999
you bringing the, you
bringing the stuff, Kori.
1190
01:04:28,999 --> 01:04:32,970
Let's hit this sucker here.
1191
01:04:34,238 --> 01:04:35,505
Yeah.
1192
01:04:35,505 --> 01:04:40,410
>> I knew there are ways
that my father is gifted,
1193
01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:43,580
and that I'm different than
that, and that I'm going to have
1194
01:04:43,580 --> 01:04:46,650
to find my own process
in sort of my own way,
1195
01:04:46,650 --> 01:04:49,453
and for me I just knew that
I wanted to get better.
1196
01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:52,789
>> You just be comfortable
and we'll make all this work.
1197
01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:53,390
>> Okay. That's a .
1198
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:54,091
Okay.
1199
01:04:54,091 --> 01:04:55,159
>> Yeah.
1200
01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:57,427
>> I'm going to lift
this just slightly.
1201
01:04:57,427 --> 01:04:58,495
>> Do what you want to with it.
1202
01:04:58,495 --> 01:05:00,130
You want it closer,
further away?
1203
01:05:00,130 --> 01:05:01,431
>> No, that's good.
1204
01:05:01,431 --> 01:05:05,535
This is a-- this is
called Blue Blues.
1205
01:05:18,882 --> 01:05:27,958
>> I've moved on from
you, so I say, so it seemed.
1206
01:05:29,193 --> 01:05:34,331
You are gone far away, I
let you go, I set you free.
1207
01:05:34,331 --> 01:05:39,569
Still I swim in a sea of you.
1208
01:05:39,569 --> 01:05:40,837
My blue.
1209
01:05:40,837 --> 01:05:42,806
>> My
biggest fear, worst nightmare,
1210
01:05:42,806 --> 01:05:51,881
was that I would be a
disappointment to him,
1211
01:05:53,283 --> 01:06:01,925
that I would show him what I had
and he would be disappointed,
1212
01:06:12,702 --> 01:06:16,073
because I knew he always was
really eager to work with me,
1213
01:06:16,073 --> 01:06:19,809
and I was always
just like, "Why?
1214
01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:22,079
You're Bill Withers.
1215
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:25,882
Why would you ever
want to do that?
1216
01:06:25,882 --> 01:06:28,418
Like, why would you
ever want to do that?"
1217
01:06:28,418 --> 01:06:32,622
And I just could never see how
he and I could sit in a room
1218
01:06:32,622 --> 01:06:35,025
as equals and do
anything together.
1219
01:06:35,025 --> 01:06:39,996
>> I give
up, I give in,
1220
01:06:39,996 --> 01:06:50,974
I can't hide away this love
I'm in will never have me,
1221
01:06:52,476 --> 01:07:01,485
will only leave me deep in the
sea of my blue, blue blues.
1222
01:07:24,708 --> 01:07:26,843
>> Oh, that's great.
1223
01:07:26,843 --> 01:07:28,044
>> Oh, I'm sorry.
1224
01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:36,653
>> I'm just, you know,
I'm just glad to see you.
1225
01:07:39,289 --> 01:07:48,365
You know what I mean.
1226
01:07:48,932 --> 01:07:53,237
Let's hear that.
1227
01:07:53,237 --> 01:07:59,075
Let's hear that.
1228
01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:07,384
>> We're all
accidents at birth, you know?
1229
01:08:07,384 --> 01:08:10,920
We don't get to choose, you
know, what we look like,
1230
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,990
we don't get to choose how
gifted we're going to be,
1231
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:18,295
how tall, how strong, we
don't get to choose anything
1232
01:08:18,295 --> 01:08:21,198
about what we're going to be.
1233
01:08:21,198 --> 01:08:24,568
One day, somebody
says, "You are."
1234
01:08:24,568 --> 01:08:29,373
At some point or
another, we have a choice
1235
01:08:31,208 --> 01:08:34,144
if we're sane enough
by that point,
1236
01:08:34,144 --> 01:08:38,448
as to how much we're
going to apply ourselves,
1237
01:08:38,448 --> 01:08:44,488
and a lot of that is influenced
by the people who nurture us.
1238
01:08:54,664 --> 01:08:57,367
I
already did what I did.
1239
01:08:57,367 --> 01:09:01,738
You know, I'm not that little
boy or that young guy anymore
1240
01:09:01,738 --> 01:09:05,442
that hasn't had any validation.
1241
01:10:42,472 --> 01:10:44,541
>> Grandma's
hand clapped
1242
01:10:44,541 --> 01:10:49,379
in church on Sunday morning.
1243
01:10:49,379 --> 01:10:54,884
Grandma's hand played
a tambourine so well.
1244
01:10:54,884 --> 01:11:00,590
Grandma's hand issued out a
warning, Billy, don't you run
1245
01:11:00,590 --> 01:11:06,596
so fast, might fall
on a piece of glass,
1246
01:11:06,596 --> 01:11:09,333
might be snakes there
in that grass.
1247
01:11:09,333 --> 01:11:11,501
Grandma's hand--
1248
01:11:48,638 --> 01:11:50,574
And you know
1249
01:11:50,574 --> 01:11:55,379
that Grandma's hands
soothed a local unwed mother.
1250
01:11:55,379 --> 01:11:59,949
Grandma's hand it aches
some times and swells.
1251
01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:03,219
Grandma's hands lift her
face and tell her, Baby,
1252
01:12:03,219 --> 01:12:05,389
Grandma understand
that you really love
1253
01:12:05,389 --> 01:12:14,464
that man even though
he ain't no good.
1254
01:12:15,298 --> 01:12:17,767
Grandma's hand.
1255
01:12:17,767 --> 01:12:20,504
Come on, play it, man.
1256
01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:34,478
>> A man we passed
just tried to stare me down
1257
01:13:35,745 --> 01:13:43,520
and when I looked at you,
you looked at the ground.
1258
01:13:45,922 --> 01:13:54,664
I don't know who he is
but I think that you do.
1259
01:13:54,664 --> 01:14:00,303
Dadgummit, who is he
and what is he to you?
1260
01:14:00,303 --> 01:14:05,475
Ah, something in my heart
1261
01:14:05,475 --> 01:14:14,551
and in your eye tells me he's
not someone just passing by.
1262
01:14:22,726 --> 01:14:31,768
Ah, and when you cleared your
throat, was that your cue?
1263
01:14:33,336 --> 01:14:39,308
Dadgummit, who is he
and what is he to you?
1264
01:14:39,308 --> 01:14:48,384
And now, when I add the sum
of you and me, I get confused
1265
01:14:54,658 --> 01:14:58,895
and I keep coming up with three.
1266
01:14:58,895 --> 01:15:07,904
You're too much for one
man but not enough for two.
1267
01:15:12,041 --> 01:15:18,047
Dadgummit, who is he
and what is he to you?
1268
01:15:18,047 --> 01:15:27,123
Well, you tell me men don't
have much intuition is
1269
01:15:28,391 --> 01:15:33,462
that what you're really thinking
girl or are you wishing?
1270
01:15:33,462 --> 01:15:46,475
Before you wreck your old home,
please search another new.
1271
01:15:50,446 --> 01:15:59,522
Dadgummit, who is he
and what is he to you?
1272
01:16:00,624 --> 01:16:09,165
Dadgummit, who is he
and what is he to you?
1273
01:16:10,900 --> 01:16:19,475
Dadgummit, who is he
and what is he to you?
1274
01:16:19,475 --> 01:16:20,744
Dadgummit--
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