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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:13,347 >> Ain't no sunshine when she's gone. 2 00:00:13,347 --> 00:00:16,284 It's not warm when she's away. 3 00:00:16,284 --> 00:00:23,424 Ain't no sunshine when she's gone. 4 00:00:23,424 --> 00:00:29,797 She's always gone too long anytime she goes away. 5 00:00:29,797 --> 00:00:32,900 Wonder this time where she's gone. 6 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:36,570 Wonder if she's gonna stay. 7 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:39,607 Ain't no sunshine when she's gone. 8 00:00:39,607 --> 00:00:47,115 And this house just ain't no home anytime she goes away. 9 00:00:47,115 --> 00:00:56,190 I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, 10 00:01:00,161 --> 00:01:05,032 I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, 11 00:01:05,032 --> 00:01:10,438 I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, 12 00:01:10,438 --> 00:01:16,810 I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, 13 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:20,314 I know, I know, I oughta leave the young thing alone. 14 00:01:20,314 --> 00:01:38,932 But ain't no sunshine when she's gone anytime she goes away. 15 00:01:40,368 --> 00:01:48,542 Anytime she goes awa-aay. 16 00:02:08,496 --> 00:02:12,733 >> Can I take us right back to when you first started? 17 00:02:12,733 --> 00:02:14,935 How did your recording career come about? 18 00:02:14,935 --> 00:02:18,939 >> I saved up some of my own money and recorded myself. 19 00:02:18,939 --> 00:02:21,575 I had never written any songs, I didn't really know how 20 00:02:21,575 --> 00:02:24,978 to play anything and I had never sung before. 21 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:27,315 Not really, you know, in the shower or some place. 22 00:02:27,315 --> 00:02:30,684 But I just decided it would be awfully nice to get 23 00:02:30,684 --> 00:02:32,853 in the music business and then I just walked around 24 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:35,122 and knocked on everybody's door. 25 00:02:35,122 --> 00:02:39,927 A lot of times I would go in and somebody would say to me, 26 00:02:39,927 --> 00:02:43,997 "You're too old to be just beginning." 27 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:46,934 You know, I was like, 32 years old at the time. 28 00:02:46,934 --> 00:02:49,803 Most of the major record companies called me up. 29 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:52,005 But they had a different idea of how-- 30 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:53,607 they didn't want me to do anything quiet. 31 00:02:53,607 --> 00:02:57,077 They had this rhythm and blues syndrome in their mind 32 00:02:57,077 --> 00:03:00,314 with the horns and the three chicks and the gold lame suit, 33 00:03:00,314 --> 00:03:04,652 you know and I wasn't really into that, so I thought-- 34 00:03:04,652 --> 00:03:07,421 I had a job, you know, so I thought well, you know, 35 00:03:07,421 --> 00:03:10,023 if they won't let me do it like I want to do it, 36 00:03:10,023 --> 00:03:11,892 I've got this good job making these toilets, 37 00:03:11,892 --> 00:03:13,727 I don't need you guys. 38 00:03:13,727 --> 00:03:14,895 >> Making these toilets. 39 00:03:14,895 --> 00:03:16,364 What kind of toilets were you making? 40 00:03:16,364 --> 00:03:17,431 >> For aircraft. 41 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:18,131 >> Ah! 42 00:03:18,131 --> 00:03:20,301 >> Yeah, 747 aircraft. 43 00:03:20,301 --> 00:03:25,639 I installed cameras in those toilets unbeknownst we say 44 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,342 that in slam to anybody but me. 45 00:03:28,342 --> 00:03:29,977 So if you've ever been to the bathroom 46 00:03:29,977 --> 00:03:32,746 on a 747, I know you very well. 47 00:03:32,746 --> 00:03:33,414 You understand. 48 00:03:33,414 --> 00:03:34,782 >> Yeah. 49 00:03:34,782 --> 00:03:42,290 >> So, here's all the stuff that I don't know how to work. 50 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:49,263 I mean, I guess the stuff works, 51 00:03:49,263 --> 00:03:51,432 I know how to turn it on, you know. 52 00:03:51,432 --> 00:03:54,702 Like I can make lights come on and stuff. 53 00:03:54,702 --> 00:03:58,306 Let's see, yeah, I can turn that on. 54 00:03:58,306 --> 00:04:05,746 And, let's see, turn this fan on here to cool that down. 55 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:11,752 This thing's been sitting here corroding for about ten years. 56 00:04:11,752 --> 00:04:16,189 I see. Remember I got a bigger kind of speaker thing here. 57 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:18,326 Fooling around, let's see. 58 00:04:18,326 --> 00:04:19,993 I was just playing with all these gadgets. 59 00:04:23,163 --> 00:04:25,566 I have to be careful 60 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:29,136 that I don't just wallow in my own comfort. 61 00:04:29,136 --> 00:04:32,773 Probably now, I'm trying to find some kind of motivation or, 62 00:04:32,773 --> 00:04:35,643 you know, I'm not lazy. 63 00:04:35,643 --> 00:04:37,811 I don't even understand. 64 00:04:37,811 --> 00:04:41,315 I'm trying to give myself a chance to get driven. 65 00:04:41,315 --> 00:04:43,317 Where just the sheer activity 66 00:04:43,317 --> 00:04:48,155 of doing something just jacks you up, makes you excited. 67 00:04:48,155 --> 00:04:51,792 I lived a good portion 68 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:54,728 of my life before I started to play music. 69 00:04:54,728 --> 00:04:58,566 I had been working at Weber Aircraft and I got laid off. 70 00:04:58,566 --> 00:05:01,702 Then "Ain't No Sunshine" started appearing on the radio 71 00:05:01,702 --> 00:05:03,404 and stuff, and it's funny 72 00:05:03,404 --> 00:05:06,239 because I got two requests in the same day. 73 00:05:06,239 --> 00:05:10,277 I got a letter from my job saying that I was called back 74 00:05:10,277 --> 00:05:15,483 to work and I got a request to do the Johnny Carson Show. 75 00:05:25,826 --> 00:05:28,228 >> I like that song, that was big for you, wasn't it? 76 00:05:28,228 --> 00:05:32,800 >> Yeah, that kind of, uh, got me off the ham and eggs thing 77 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,002 and kind of tightened me up a little bit. 78 00:05:35,002 --> 00:05:36,437 >> But, we mentioned this before, 79 00:05:36,437 --> 00:05:41,174 that you were a craftsman and you made john, toilets, right? 80 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:42,743 >> Oh, yeah, it was a good job. 81 00:05:42,743 --> 00:05:43,844 I had a lot of fun doing it. 82 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:47,448 >> Where does the fun come in, Bill? 83 00:05:47,448 --> 00:05:48,949 I mean, I mean-- 84 00:05:48,949 --> 00:05:50,150 >> Well-- 85 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:52,152 >> People in my own family were probably surprised 86 00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:53,554 when I was on the radio. 87 00:05:53,554 --> 00:05:56,490 People from-- I had been in the Navy with, people I had worked 88 00:05:56,490 --> 00:06:01,562 in the factory with, people that knew me were probably going, 89 00:06:01,562 --> 00:06:03,597 "Wait a minute, is that that same guy?" 90 00:06:03,597 --> 00:06:07,267 If I would have gone to work the next day 91 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:11,972 and told somebody where I was last night, 92 00:06:11,972 --> 00:06:14,842 I think I'd laughed out of the place. 93 00:06:14,842 --> 00:06:17,411 All of a sudden, I'm traveling on the road 94 00:06:17,411 --> 00:06:21,248 and more people are interested in you than before. 95 00:06:21,248 --> 00:06:27,154 It was just like a whole other world. 96 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:35,328 >> You just call on me brother when you need a hand. 97 00:06:35,328 --> 00:06:40,634 We all need somebody to lean on. 98 00:06:40,634 --> 00:06:49,710 >> Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Bill Withers. 99 00:06:51,712 --> 00:07:00,721 >> I just might have a problem that you'll understand. 100 00:07:01,555 --> 00:07:08,962 We all need somebody to lean on. 101 00:07:08,962 --> 00:07:09,963 Lean on me-- 102 00:07:09,963 --> 00:07:11,364 >> Mr. Bill Withers. 103 00:07:11,364 --> 00:07:14,668 >> -- when you're not strong and I'll be your friend, 104 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:16,069 I'll help you carry on. 105 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:17,471 For it won't be long till I'm gonna need somebody to lean on. 106 00:07:36,256 --> 00:07:39,493 >> New words started to enter my life 107 00:07:39,493 --> 00:07:42,930 that had never been there before, like "handsome". 108 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:44,397 Boy, you sure do get better looking 109 00:07:44,397 --> 00:07:45,799 when you get a hit record. 110 00:07:45,799 --> 00:07:46,834 I'm telling you that. 111 00:07:46,834 --> 00:07:48,001 >> I want to spread the news 112 00:07:48,001 --> 00:07:52,540 that if it feels this good getting used. 113 00:07:52,540 --> 00:07:55,509 Oh, you just keep on using me. 114 00:07:55,509 --> 00:08:01,448 Hey, hey, until you use me up. 115 00:08:04,284 --> 00:08:08,455 Hey, hey, until you use me up. 116 00:08:11,592 --> 00:08:16,730 Hey, hey, now you're talking about you using me 117 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:20,834 but it all depends on what you do. 118 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:25,973 It ain't too bad the way you're using me 'cause I sure am using 119 00:08:25,973 --> 00:08:28,475 you to do that thing you do. 120 00:08:31,211 --> 00:08:35,482 Hey, hey, to do that thing you do. 121 00:08:35,482 --> 00:08:38,185 >> I had never been in the entertainment business before. 122 00:08:38,185 --> 00:08:40,654 The first live singing I ever did was in front 123 00:08:40,654 --> 00:08:42,489 of about 5,000 people. 124 00:08:42,489 --> 00:08:44,925 All of a sudden, somebody says, "Go to work." 125 00:08:44,925 --> 00:08:46,359 >> Let's give a big round of applause-- 126 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:47,460 >> Come on in. 127 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:49,797 >>-- for the one and only Mr. Bill Withers. 128 00:08:52,165 --> 00:08:53,867 >> Well, I'm five years old. 129 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:55,202 Sure am cold. 130 00:08:55,202 --> 00:09:04,044 Mama's out cooking steak, cooking steak for someone else-- 131 00:09:05,378 --> 00:09:07,314 >> What do you see as the prognosis of your career, Bill? 132 00:09:07,314 --> 00:09:09,049 You know, you'll become a big star, 133 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:11,284 you're becoming a superstar. 134 00:09:11,284 --> 00:09:14,822 And do think you can remain just as you are? 135 00:09:14,822 --> 00:09:17,825 >> First, I have to become somebody that understands what 136 00:09:17,825 --> 00:09:19,326 "prognosis" means, man. 137 00:09:19,326 --> 00:09:20,661 It's a scary word. 138 00:09:20,661 --> 00:09:22,663 >> Well, how do you interpret how are things going 139 00:09:22,663 --> 00:09:23,363 to go for you? 140 00:09:23,363 --> 00:09:24,464 >> Oh, yeah. 141 00:09:24,464 --> 00:09:27,635 I'm kind of just letting them go, you know. 142 00:09:27,635 --> 00:09:30,971 Letting them go and whatever is given to me if I can do it, 143 00:09:30,971 --> 00:09:32,205 you know, I'll just have at it. 144 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:35,375 Two or three years into this, I was in a major mess. 145 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:38,011 I mean the record company actually collapsed 146 00:09:38,011 --> 00:09:40,547 out from under me. 147 00:09:40,547 --> 00:09:43,751 Well, IRS came in and then took the tapes and sold them. 148 00:09:43,751 --> 00:09:46,820 Then, when I went to this major, big, mega label company, 149 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:49,322 you walk in, you play something and somebody goes, 150 00:09:49,322 --> 00:09:51,191 "Why 151 00:09:51,191 --> 00:09:53,526 You got to put some horns on it. 152 00:09:53,526 --> 00:09:55,262 How long is the intro?" 153 00:09:55,262 --> 00:09:58,098 First hit record I had was "Ain't No Sunshine." 154 00:09:58,098 --> 00:09:59,599 No intro, nothing. 155 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:01,802 If nobody throws all that rules at you, 156 00:10:01,802 --> 00:10:04,404 you might make a song with no introduction. 157 00:10:04,404 --> 00:10:05,939 Instead of singing 158 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:10,277 about romantic love all the time, you make a love song 159 00:10:10,277 --> 00:10:12,045 about your grandmother. 160 00:10:12,045 --> 00:10:16,183 Or you make a friendship song, a la "Lean On Me," searching 161 00:10:16,183 --> 00:10:19,152 through your feelings and your vulnerabilities 162 00:10:19,152 --> 00:10:20,954 and your strengths and your weaknesses. 163 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:25,325 You're already loaded up enough with the burden of just trying 164 00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:27,394 to find those feelings. 165 00:10:27,394 --> 00:10:30,363 So then, here comes a whole bunch of guys trying 166 00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:33,633 to tell you what to do with all their goofy suggestions 167 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:34,868 and stuff. 168 00:10:34,868 --> 00:10:37,504 They had the R&B black guys, and then they got what I 169 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:40,573 like to call "Blacksperts", that's the white guys 170 00:10:40,573 --> 00:10:45,045 who are supposed to be "experts", you know, 171 00:10:45,045 --> 00:10:47,981 who have some kind of tap into your black psyche. 172 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:53,086 I had an A&R man once that his big suggestion to me was 173 00:10:53,086 --> 00:10:57,257 that I cover Elvis Presley's "In The Ghetto." 174 00:10:57,257 --> 00:10:59,559 I was livid. 175 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,196 And as I started to try to respond to that, 176 00:11:03,196 --> 00:11:08,635 that simple kind of emotional, vulnerable kind of thing, 177 00:11:08,635 --> 00:11:13,140 kind of got splattered around there. 178 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:18,846 I became very interested, can I still stay 179 00:11:18,846 --> 00:11:21,882 in this business and be effective and make a living 180 00:11:21,882 --> 00:11:24,584 and not have to play this fame game? 181 00:11:24,584 --> 00:11:27,487 I wasn't any good at it. 182 00:11:27,487 --> 00:11:32,826 The fame game was kicking my ass. 183 00:11:32,826 --> 00:11:36,463 >> I see the crystal raindrops fall and the beauty 184 00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:42,402 of it all is when the sun comes shining through. 185 00:11:42,402 --> 00:11:45,305 To make those rainbows in my mind 186 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:48,976 when I think of you some time. 187 00:11:48,976 --> 00:11:53,280 And I want to spend some time with you. 188 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,614 Just the two of us. 189 00:11:54,614 --> 00:11:56,516 We can make it if we try. 190 00:11:56,516 --> 00:11:58,351 Just the two of us. 191 00:11:58,351 --> 00:12:00,120 >> Just the two of us. 192 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:06,894 >> Just the two of us building castles in the sky, 193 00:12:06,894 --> 00:12:10,831 just the two of us, you and I. 194 00:12:10,831 --> 00:12:17,104 >> I would like to see us move past 195 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:22,175 to where you need the validation of the mainstream so much 196 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:27,547 until we got away from liking ourselves. 197 00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:29,582 >> The challenge, though, is still, once you get 198 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:32,585 in that mainstream, to not become mainstream. 199 00:12:32,585 --> 00:12:36,656 That is to say, to remain your authentic self, 200 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:40,027 to still make the community that produced you proud of you. 201 00:12:40,027 --> 00:12:44,231 To not, in the cultural vernacular, 202 00:12:44,231 --> 00:12:45,999 to become a sell-out. 203 00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:47,400 >> "Sell-out". 204 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:53,373 I'm not crazy about that word because we're all entrepreneurs. 205 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:59,847 To me, I don't care whether you own a furniture store 206 00:12:59,847 --> 00:13:02,582 or whatever. 207 00:13:02,582 --> 00:13:07,020 The best sign you can put up is, "Sold out". 208 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:08,421 >> Sold out. 209 00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:14,862 >> So let's cut-- can we make-- can we make that subservient? 210 00:13:14,862 --> 00:13:16,563 >> Yeah, that's-- 211 00:13:16,563 --> 00:13:17,664 >> No that's it. 212 00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:19,232 >>-- give a twist on the . 213 00:13:19,232 --> 00:13:21,835 >> No, I think what is saying he'd do, 214 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:24,137 it is a profound point. 215 00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:26,439 One. One, it's a Shakespearian point. 216 00:13:26,439 --> 00:13:28,508 "To thine own self be true. 217 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:32,345 If night follows the day, thou can be false to no one." 218 00:13:32,345 --> 00:13:35,448 You have been true to yourself. 219 00:13:35,448 --> 00:13:38,285 You don't sound like Paul Simon on the guitar, 220 00:13:38,285 --> 00:13:41,188 you're Bill Withers because you come out of your roots. 221 00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:45,825 When you sing Grandma's Hands, talking about Matty and talking 222 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:48,996 about grandma taking care of local, unwed mothers 223 00:13:48,996 --> 00:13:51,798 in Virginia-- West Virginia, that's real. 224 00:13:51,798 --> 00:13:53,833 That's being yourself. 225 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:57,604 At the same time now, in being yourself, you're able to cross 226 00:13:57,604 --> 00:14:00,440 over into a white mainstream, and they had 227 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,344 to accept you on your own terms. 228 00:14:04,344 --> 00:14:10,283 >> You see, looking at this thing is-- 229 00:14:10,283 --> 00:14:16,489 >> You better be careful. 230 00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:18,258 >>-- not new. 231 00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:23,030 Oh, boy, these pages are really-- 232 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:27,000 well, I guess this was brothers 233 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,636 and sisters I had that never lived. 234 00:14:29,636 --> 00:14:33,373 I was the last of 13 kids that my mother had. 235 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:39,546 I guess I wasn't born yet, so I'm not in here anywhere. 236 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:43,650 Grackus Monroe Galloway was my mother's father 237 00:14:43,650 --> 00:14:45,185 and he was born a slave. 238 00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:49,056 He was probably nine years old when they freed the slaves. 239 00:14:49,056 --> 00:14:51,424 He worked in the coal mines 240 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:53,493 but he would never work for the coal company. 241 00:14:53,493 --> 00:14:55,228 He hauled coal. 242 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:56,663 Here's Grandma. 243 00:14:56,663 --> 00:15:02,269 Now, I took this picture when I was a kid, 244 00:15:02,269 --> 00:15:06,173 so you can see what year it was by the car. 245 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:13,080 >> Most of us at some point in our lives have somebody 246 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,015 that means more to us 247 00:15:15,015 --> 00:15:18,885 than anybody else has ever meant before or will ever mean again. 248 00:15:18,885 --> 00:15:22,089 Sometimes it's a long-legged lady, if you're a man. 249 00:15:22,089 --> 00:15:26,960 Or some tall, very smooth man if you're a woman. 250 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,896 But in my case, I learned how to really love somebody 251 00:15:29,896 --> 00:15:32,399 from just a nice old lady. 252 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:34,701 My favorite thing that I've written has to be 253 00:15:34,701 --> 00:15:37,504 about this favorite old lady of mine. 254 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,118 I'm from Slab Fork, West Virginia. 255 00:15:51,118 --> 00:15:52,885 You know where that is, right? 256 00:15:52,885 --> 00:15:55,255 >> No. Is that any place near Bluefield? 257 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:57,390 >> Yeah, it's near Bluefield. 258 00:15:57,390 --> 00:15:59,926 About 30 or 40 miles, I guess, from Bluefield. 259 00:15:59,926 --> 00:16:01,761 >> Slab Fork, West Virginia. 260 00:16:01,761 --> 00:16:02,462 >> Yeah 261 00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:08,701 >> Grandma's hands clapped 262 00:16:08,701 --> 00:16:14,007 in church on Sunday morning. 263 00:16:14,007 --> 00:16:19,846 Grandma's hands played a tambourine so well. 264 00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:26,453 Grandma's hands used to issue out a warning. 265 00:16:26,453 --> 00:16:31,024 She'd say "Billy, don't you run so fast. 266 00:16:31,024 --> 00:16:33,960 Might fall on a piece of glass, 267 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,230 might be snakes there in that grass." 268 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:38,465 Grandma's hands. 269 00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:39,499 Ah, them Grandma's hands. 270 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:42,435 >> Hey, CV. 271 00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:51,511 This is the mayor here, this is Mayor, CV. 272 00:16:55,248 --> 00:16:56,283 >> How you doing? 273 00:16:56,283 --> 00:16:57,084 How you doing? 274 00:16:57,084 --> 00:16:58,351 >> CV's running the things. 275 00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:00,220 I'm good, man. 276 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:02,955 >> CV was talking to my daughter and he was telling her, 277 00:17:02,955 --> 00:17:06,159 you know, "Let me tell you about your great-grandmother." 278 00:17:06,159 --> 00:17:06,959 >> Right. 279 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:08,828 >> And so CV remembers her. 280 00:17:08,828 --> 00:17:10,197 >> Grandmother Galloway. 281 00:17:10,197 --> 00:17:11,964 She was a very elegant woman. 282 00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:16,103 She sat on this porch and she would sing spirituals right 283 00:17:16,103 --> 00:17:18,105 on that porch and clap her hands. 284 00:17:18,105 --> 00:17:20,373 >> Remember they called it getting happy. 285 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:24,977 >> You're right, right, right, right. 286 00:17:24,977 --> 00:17:27,580 >> There's a saying, "the sleepy smiling South 287 00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:28,948 with blood on its mouth." 288 00:17:28,948 --> 00:17:29,916 >> Right, right. 289 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:31,618 >> Well, we weren't in that South. 290 00:17:31,618 --> 00:17:33,420 This was South, in a way. 291 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:36,223 Like, when we grew up, you didn't have to sit 292 00:17:36,223 --> 00:17:37,224 on the back of the bus. 293 00:17:37,224 --> 00:17:38,191 >> Right, right. 294 00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:40,160 >> But we had separate schools now. 295 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,294 >> Right. 296 00:17:41,294 --> 00:17:43,363 >> You could-- you had to go to the back door 297 00:17:43,363 --> 00:17:45,432 if you wanted a milkshake or something from one 298 00:17:45,432 --> 00:17:46,799 of the restaurants uptown. 299 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:50,803 But the kids, left to our own devices, we played, now. 300 00:17:50,803 --> 00:17:51,804 We sat here. 301 00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:53,440 That was the dividing line. 302 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,674 >> Right. 303 00:17:54,674 --> 00:17:56,243 >> We were the only two black families on this side 304 00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:57,544 of the railroad track. 305 00:17:57,544 --> 00:18:00,147 Well, we just integrated the whole thing by ourselves. 306 00:18:00,147 --> 00:18:03,250 >> That I think all of the black families basically, like it 307 00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:06,953 or not, most of us had white people in our families. 308 00:18:06,953 --> 00:18:10,022 >> You know, after you did a day's work in the coal mines, 309 00:18:10,022 --> 00:18:11,658 everybody was black anyway. 310 00:18:11,658 --> 00:18:14,060 >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, that's true. 311 00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:14,994 That's true. 312 00:18:14,994 --> 00:18:16,062 Yeah, that's what I'm saying now. 313 00:18:16,062 --> 00:18:17,564 >> Wasn't nothing but black people here. 314 00:18:17,564 --> 00:18:18,798 >> I haven't been 315 00:18:18,798 --> 00:18:22,502 to Slab Fork since about 1959. 316 00:18:22,502 --> 00:18:24,371 Nobody's back there. 317 00:18:24,371 --> 00:18:26,373 No, there's nothing there much except graves, 318 00:18:26,373 --> 00:18:28,841 you know, and old coal mines. 319 00:18:28,841 --> 00:18:31,511 And I'm really not too hung up on going 320 00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:34,214 and laying flowers on dead people. 321 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:40,720 Let me be very candid about it. 322 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,223 This was a white graveyard. 323 00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:45,024 This is a black graveyard. 324 00:18:45,024 --> 00:18:47,460 >> Hey, Bill Withers. 325 00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:48,295 >> Yeah? 326 00:18:48,295 --> 00:18:49,896 >> What was your brother's name? 327 00:18:49,896 --> 00:18:52,098 >> His name was Earl Martin. 328 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:54,734 >> Here he is right here. 329 00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:55,502 >> Okay. 330 00:18:55,502 --> 00:18:57,270 >> Earl W. Martin. 331 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:58,838 >> Yeah, that's my brother. 332 00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:01,641 Well, they give him a nice stone. 333 00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:02,742 Where do you see those number? 334 00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:04,711 Oh, 1942. 335 00:19:04,711 --> 00:19:07,580 >> Do you vaguely remember any location 336 00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:10,049 about where your father would be? 337 00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:12,952 >> No. And I don't know whether he would be buried close 338 00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:16,489 to Earl or not. 339 00:19:16,489 --> 00:19:18,358 Yeah, well, Papa, well, yeah. 340 00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:20,293 Hello, bud. 341 00:19:20,293 --> 00:19:23,696 And I'll catch you something later. 342 00:19:23,696 --> 00:19:25,598 My father taught me, you know, 343 00:19:25,598 --> 00:19:28,167 he put the work thing in my head. 344 00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:32,038 My mother put the moral thing in my head. 345 00:19:32,038 --> 00:19:35,508 My father used to have a little barber shop here 346 00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:38,611 and he wasn't a good barber but he told great stories. 347 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:44,251 >> Just can't keep from crying. 348 00:19:44,251 --> 00:19:46,986 Six years, Lucy. 349 00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:49,155 Lord, have mercy. 350 00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:51,123 That's a long time. 351 00:19:51,123 --> 00:19:58,531 That's a long time. 352 00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:01,268 >> All these houses were owned by the coal company 353 00:20:01,268 --> 00:20:03,202 and they all looked the same. 354 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:04,304 >> Absolutely. 355 00:20:04,304 --> 00:20:05,872 >> They've probably done stuff to them now. 356 00:20:05,872 --> 00:20:08,040 >> The company owned everything. 357 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,442 >> Which was one family. 358 00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:12,745 The coal company got your money, they paid you, then they got it. 359 00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:13,613 You had to shop. 360 00:20:13,613 --> 00:20:15,147 You shopped in their store. 361 00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:17,750 Now, this was the old store. 362 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:18,818 >> Yeah, company store. 363 00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:21,554 >> You could buy everything at this store. 364 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:25,024 >> Now, this is an exceptional coal camp from the standpoint 365 00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:28,928 that it still have enough life to have some people living here. 366 00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:29,896 >> They had a lot of churches. 367 00:20:29,896 --> 00:20:31,498 They had a Baptist church, 368 00:20:31,498 --> 00:20:34,367 then they had a Methodist church somewhere. 369 00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:40,307 And then they had your Holy and Sanctified Church. 370 00:20:40,307 --> 00:20:45,278 >> Remember me. 371 00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:46,979 >> I liked my grandmother's church. 372 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:48,915 It was spontaneous singing. 373 00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:50,850 There was no programmed singing. 374 00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:56,623 Somebody got up and started to sing a song, everybody sung. 375 00:20:56,623 --> 00:21:00,860 It was my favorite kind of singing. 376 00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:02,829 >> Remember me. 377 00:21:02,829 --> 00:21:04,096 Oh, Lord. Remember me. 378 00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:12,372 >> Well, we have walked these railroad ties, huh, CV? 379 00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:15,808 >> Yeah. Now, if you want 380 00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:21,548 to test how skillful you are, walk this. 381 00:21:21,548 --> 00:21:24,884 >> Remember that that used to be the thing, 382 00:21:24,884 --> 00:21:29,088 who could walk the rail? 383 00:21:29,088 --> 00:21:31,223 >> If you can walk the rail-- 384 00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:31,791 >> The furthest? 385 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:32,925 >> I say yeah. 386 00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:35,595 See, that's how to test how skillful you are. 387 00:21:35,595 --> 00:21:36,262 >> Look at you. 388 00:21:36,262 --> 00:21:37,364 Look at . 389 00:21:37,364 --> 00:21:40,633 >> Yeah, so you-- I still can walk it, yeah. 390 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,034 >> So, are you doing tricks and stuff. 391 00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:43,370 >> Yeah. See, that's how skillful. 392 00:21:43,370 --> 00:21:48,307 >> Now, if you break out a handstand, I'm leaving tonight. 393 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:51,978 I'm telling you, this was like, life, busy, busy. 394 00:21:51,978 --> 00:21:54,914 Summertime come, we'd go around, 395 00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:57,183 dam up the creek, get buck naked. 396 00:21:57,183 --> 00:21:57,984 >> And go swimming. 397 00:21:57,984 --> 00:21:59,185 >> Go swimming. 398 00:21:59,185 --> 00:22:02,154 And so the girls would time you out, say, "Well, 399 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:05,091 it's about swimming time," then the girls would come down there. 400 00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:06,192 >> Yeah. 401 00:22:06,192 --> 00:22:08,728 >> And stand on the side so you couldn't get 402 00:22:08,728 --> 00:22:10,363 out of the water until they left. 403 00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:12,031 >> Right! 404 00:22:12,031 --> 00:22:13,332 >> You know, so it was just a whole culture 405 00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:14,734 of stuff like that. 406 00:22:14,734 --> 00:22:20,139 >> It's an amazing thing, when you look back, and you realize 407 00:22:20,139 --> 00:22:24,276 that the world changed completely around you. 408 00:22:24,276 --> 00:22:25,044 You are seeing-- 409 00:22:25,044 --> 00:22:25,612 >> It's gone, brother. 410 00:22:25,612 --> 00:22:26,479 This has gone. 411 00:22:26,479 --> 00:22:27,647 >> You're seeing what used to be. 412 00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:29,416 >> So we are truly the last of a-- 413 00:22:29,416 --> 00:22:30,550 >> Yeah, we're getting there. 414 00:22:30,550 --> 00:22:31,518 >> 415 00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:33,486 >> Yeah, we getting there. 416 00:22:33,486 --> 00:22:34,120 >> Hey, Bill. 417 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:34,887 >> Yeah? 418 00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:36,188 >> Hit it one time for me. 419 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:38,558 Ain't no sunshine when she's gone. 420 00:22:38,558 --> 00:22:39,459 >> You already hit it. 421 00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:41,828 I can't hit it like you no more. 422 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:43,730 >> Let me ask you, do you do any-- 423 00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:46,032 do you go on any tours at all now? 424 00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:47,834 >> The first thing you said to me was, 425 00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:49,201 "You look like an old man." 426 00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:50,570 >> Right. 427 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:52,872 >> So, now, how could you tell me in one breath that I look 428 00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:55,875 like an old man and then in the second breath tell me, 429 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,677 "You ought to be out on the road-- 430 00:22:57,677 --> 00:22:58,377 >> I didn't know. 431 00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,011 >> playing rock'n'roll"? 432 00:22:59,011 --> 00:23:00,379 >> No, no, no, no. 433 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:04,016 No. I have never understood how you entertainers could be 434 00:23:04,016 --> 00:23:05,117 on the road 435 00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:08,254 and do every-other-night or one-night stands. 436 00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:09,522 >> I don't understand it either, 437 00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:11,123 that's how come I ain't doing it! 438 00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:14,494 >> Okay, okay. 439 00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:19,599 >> I've had people ask me 440 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:20,800 that question a lot. 441 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,235 You know, "How could you just stop?" 442 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:26,839 Well, to me, it wasn't stopping anything. 443 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:28,641 It was doing something else. 444 00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:31,077 And I mean, I like music, but I'm not going 445 00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:33,345 to place my whole worth on it. 446 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:36,182 You know how unhappy you would be if you thought 447 00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:39,752 that the way you are is not okay? 448 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:41,554 I started out my life like that. 449 00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,523 I don't want to end it up like that. 450 00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:49,195 >> Okay, we're on our way 451 00:23:49,195 --> 00:23:52,264 to get a birthday cake. 452 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,266 >> I'm getting just a "7-0". 453 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:59,539 I don't want him to have to struggle to blow out 70 candles. 454 00:24:03,042 --> 00:24:05,277 >> We are putting this here. 455 00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:07,213 >> It's too big. 456 00:24:07,213 --> 00:24:08,948 >> This doesn't seem very formal, but-- 457 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:10,182 >> Doug. 458 00:24:10,182 --> 00:24:10,717 >> Yes? 459 00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:12,351 >> You know. 460 00:24:12,351 --> 00:24:13,152 >> You cool? 461 00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:13,720 >> Uh-hmm. 462 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,554 >> Welcome in. 463 00:24:14,554 --> 00:24:15,488 Yeah. 464 00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:17,289 >> But, we still have to celebrate. 465 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,226 We would love you to make a gigantic wish 466 00:24:20,226 --> 00:24:22,161 and blow out your candles. 467 00:24:22,161 --> 00:24:23,462 You don't have to divulge the wish, 468 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:27,500 but we'd love you to make a wish. 469 00:24:30,937 --> 00:24:32,404 >> I'm a senior citizen. 470 00:24:32,404 --> 00:24:35,474 That's okay with me. 471 00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:39,879 I'm okay with my grey hair and my, you know, 472 00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:41,213 my narrowing shoulders. 473 00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:44,817 To the Country Inn. 474 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:48,921 The most important thing is to be okay, you know. 475 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:51,223 I just want to feel good. 476 00:24:51,223 --> 00:24:54,026 I know what it feels like not to feel all right. 477 00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:58,598 You know, guilt and regret, aches and pains. 478 00:24:58,598 --> 00:25:02,835 I'd really like to learn to accept everything before I die. 479 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:04,403 >> Hey, Bill. 480 00:25:04,403 --> 00:25:08,507 >> Hey, man, how you doing? 481 00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:09,208 Look out! Oh, Jimmy . 482 00:25:09,208 --> 00:25:09,842 >> What's going on, Bud? 483 00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:10,810 >> How you doing? 484 00:25:10,810 --> 00:25:11,578 Boy, you still look like a teenager. 485 00:25:11,578 --> 00:25:14,013 How you doing? 486 00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:14,847 >> Good seeing you, Bill. 487 00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:16,415 >> You too, man, you too. 488 00:25:16,415 --> 00:25:17,617 >> It must be your son. 489 00:25:17,617 --> 00:25:18,384 >> Yup, yes. 490 00:25:19,151 --> 00:25:19,919 >> It looks just like you! 491 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:23,122 >> How are you doing, man? 492 00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:24,523 How's everything? 493 00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:25,958 How's everything going? 494 00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:28,127 >> I'm his daughter, but last time I remember you, 495 00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:29,295 you held me on your lap. 496 00:25:29,295 --> 00:25:31,163 We went over to your mom's house. 497 00:25:31,163 --> 00:25:33,465 >> Yeah. How you doing , sugar? 498 00:25:33,465 --> 00:25:41,407 Well, you could still sit on there. 499 00:25:41,407 --> 00:25:47,647 You know, not too long, though. 500 00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:51,083 Not too long. 501 00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:59,826 >> When I wake up in the morning, love. 502 00:25:59,826 --> 00:26:05,798 And the sunlight hurts my eyes. 503 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:15,207 >> Great to see you, how you doing? 504 00:26:15,207 --> 00:26:18,077 >> I'm so glad to see you, girl. 505 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:20,680 >> And something without warning, love. 506 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,383 >> Yeah, girl, come here. 507 00:26:24,383 --> 00:26:27,319 How you doing? 508 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,121 >> Bears heavy on my mind. 509 00:26:29,121 --> 00:26:29,689 >> I'm fine. 510 00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:30,657 This is Delores. 511 00:26:30,657 --> 00:26:35,127 >> Then I look at you. 512 00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:38,564 And the world's all right with me. 513 00:26:38,564 --> 00:26:39,732 Just one look at you. 514 00:26:39,732 --> 00:26:42,001 >> You're looking good, man. 515 00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:43,135 >> Thank you. 516 00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:44,570 You're looking great! 517 00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:51,177 >> I actually turned 70 today. 518 00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:53,045 >> Oh, wow. 519 00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:58,617 >> Some people are just born cool. 520 00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:02,154 They'd been cool all their lives, you know. 521 00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:04,590 Well, I hadn't been cool all my life. 522 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:09,762 I was an asthmatic stutterer as a kid. 523 00:27:09,762 --> 00:27:12,598 One popular thing is, "Spit it out! 524 00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:13,800 Spit it out!" 525 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,304 And then they have all these folky kind of cures, 526 00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:22,608 like hitting you in the face with a dishrag 527 00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:26,979 or something, you know what I mean. 528 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:29,115 Really stupid stuff. 529 00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:36,055 You know. I grew up with, "You can't do nothing." 530 00:27:36,055 --> 00:27:45,131 One teacher said to me once that I was handicapped. 531 00:27:46,899 --> 00:27:49,368 And I didn't like that word. 532 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:58,444 So any dreams that I had, I kept them to myself. 533 00:27:59,578 --> 00:28:04,183 Once you're labeled sort of a less-than person, 534 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:12,058 it gave me this crisis of confidence. 535 00:28:12,058 --> 00:28:16,695 I just wanted to leave, and then go and start 536 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:19,431 over with some new people. 537 00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:26,038 The Navy, at that age, you know, 17, seemed like somewhere to go. 538 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:29,842 >> If you don't look into your mind. 539 00:28:29,842 --> 00:28:32,879 And find out what you're running from. 540 00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:37,884 Tomorrow might be just another day to run. 541 00:28:37,884 --> 00:28:40,119 >> These are my old Navy buddies. 542 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:44,490 I've known these guys since I was 21. 543 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,125 We all met in Guam. 544 00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:54,733 There was not much for us to do socially, so it was kind 545 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,970 of frustrating because you got all these young guys, you know, 546 00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:00,807 who had all this testosterone 547 00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:09,481 and there was nowhere for them to go. 548 00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:10,582 >> Good old Bill. 549 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,351 >> This is the man. 550 00:29:12,351 --> 00:29:13,886 >> You know what they told me about Guam? 551 00:29:13,886 --> 00:29:16,989 The guy says, "Oh, you're going to Guam. 552 00:29:16,989 --> 00:29:20,960 There's a woman behind every tree. 553 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,129 There's only two trees." 554 00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:25,331 >> It was hard on a brother in Guam. 555 00:29:25,331 --> 00:29:26,665 It was funny times. 556 00:29:26,665 --> 00:29:28,367 That was a whole lot of life real fast. 557 00:29:28,367 --> 00:29:29,568 You know? 558 00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:31,137 >> Yeah. I was on the way over I was thinking it. 559 00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:36,775 When I first seen you, didn't you bring a guitar to Guam? 560 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,110 >> No. No. 561 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:46,385 I never owned a guitar until 1970 or something like that. 562 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:48,520 >> Is that right? 563 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,056 >> Yeah, I don't know an F sharp from Ninth Street. 564 00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:52,458 >> And when you got there you found that little old bar. 565 00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:55,261 It was-- you were singing Johnny Mathis, 566 00:29:55,261 --> 00:29:56,328 more so in which you . 567 00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:59,231 >> Or whatever the piano player could play. 568 00:29:59,231 --> 00:30:00,666 >> Is that right? 569 00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:01,700 >> Couple of drinks, man, 570 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:02,334 everybody, you know. 571 00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:02,869 You start singing. 572 00:30:02,869 --> 00:30:03,903 Shoot. Yeah. 573 00:30:03,903 --> 00:30:04,736 But I still hadn't given it any thought 574 00:30:04,736 --> 00:30:05,972 as to making a living out of it. 575 00:30:05,972 --> 00:30:07,073 >> When you appeared in my imagination. 576 00:30:07,073 --> 00:30:08,107 >> He's always been just Bill Withers to me. 577 00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:09,475 And I'm sure that's what you feel too. 578 00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:10,676 And I don't think he would want it any different, you know. 579 00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:11,944 >> My real life was when I was just a working guy. 580 00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:12,879 Just in the Navy, just a mechanic, you know what I mean. 581 00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:14,113 But the true measure of any group 582 00:30:14,113 --> 00:30:15,181 of people is how are the ones that are just people?' 583 00:30:15,181 --> 00:30:16,182 >> You were here in my memory. 584 00:30:16,182 --> 00:30:17,583 And I love you now that you're here. 585 00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:18,017 >> I was an aircraft mechanic, I was in the Navy nine years. 586 00:30:18,017 --> 00:30:18,650 >> Okay. 587 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:19,185 >> Is that right? 588 00:30:20,386 --> 00:30:20,786 >> I can do masonry and all these kind of things. 589 00:30:20,786 --> 00:30:22,054 Now. 590 00:30:22,054 --> 00:30:23,455 >> Were you writing songs while you were doing that? 591 00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:24,756 >> I've written songs working at McDonnell Douglas sounded like 592 00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:26,025 "Use Me", you know, working on an airplane and things. 593 00:30:26,025 --> 00:30:26,458 You know, Grandma's Hands, Weber Aircraft in Burbank. 594 00:30:26,458 --> 00:30:27,093 >> Yeah. 595 00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:28,027 >> Is that right? 596 00:30:28,027 --> 00:30:29,361 >> You understand what I'm saying? 597 00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:30,629 You're working on the thing and singing it over and over 598 00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:31,063 to yourself so you don't forget it before you get home. 599 00:30:31,063 --> 00:30:31,830 >> Wow. 600 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,165 >> You know what's funny? 601 00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:34,166 People say, "Yeah, he wrote that song about that woman." 602 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,001 I didn't know none of them damn women 603 00:30:35,001 --> 00:30:35,701 when I was writing them songs. 604 00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:36,502 >> Just in your mind. 605 00:30:36,502 --> 00:30:37,703 >> I couldn't get no women. 606 00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:38,337 I was making 3 dollars an hour working 607 00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:39,105 in the damn thing! 608 00:30:39,105 --> 00:30:40,539 >> Uno, dos, tres, cuatro. 609 00:30:43,109 --> 00:30:46,678 >> I was 23 years old, 610 00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:51,918 I was a graduate student, UCLA, working on my MBA. 611 00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:56,088 And my sister and I decided we wanted-- actually, it was me. 612 00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:58,324 I wanted to go see Gil Scott-Heron. 613 00:30:58,324 --> 00:31:00,192 >> You see that black boy over there, running scared. 614 00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:01,627 His old man's in a bottle. 615 00:31:01,627 --> 00:31:03,129 >> There's a vacant table. 616 00:31:03,129 --> 00:31:04,663 She said, "Let's go sit there." 617 00:31:04,663 --> 00:31:06,198 I said, "It says reserved." 618 00:31:06,198 --> 00:31:09,735 And lo and behold, it was Bill sitting there, 619 00:31:09,735 --> 00:31:10,469 which I didn't know. 620 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:12,438 She recognized him. 621 00:31:12,438 --> 00:31:14,740 And that's how I met him. 622 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:17,243 >> There's people living in the bottle. 623 00:31:18,344 --> 00:31:20,980 >> You know, I wasn't star struck at all. 624 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:23,149 He was this regular, normal person. 625 00:31:23,149 --> 00:31:25,317 He was interesting. 626 00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:26,685 He was interested in me. 627 00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:28,754 >> Well now when I'm kissing my love. 628 00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:31,390 Yeah. Thump-a-thumping in my head. 629 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:34,160 And now, when I'm kissing my love. 630 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:40,933 I close my eyes and see a pretty city 631 00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:48,975 with a million flowers in it. 632 00:31:48,975 --> 00:31:50,276 >> A lot 633 00:31:50,276 --> 00:31:54,480 of men can't express what they're feeling and he can. 634 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,453 He can, you know, he's sensitive but tough. 635 00:32:01,453 --> 00:32:04,390 >> Put your foot on the rock 636 00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:07,726 and touch your foot, don't stop. 637 00:32:07,726 --> 00:32:09,128 Put your foot on the rock. 638 00:32:09,128 --> 00:32:13,499 Put your foot on the rock I know you just can't stop. 639 00:32:13,499 --> 00:32:14,933 Put your foot on the rock. 640 00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,702 And now when I'm kissing my love, 641 00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:19,571 feel the blood pumping in my veins. 642 00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:23,709 Now, when I'm kissing my love, she's such a tender sender 643 00:32:23,709 --> 00:32:26,312 with her sweet young frame. 644 00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:28,014 Ah, ha, ha. 645 00:32:28,014 --> 00:32:31,317 Well now, she's so good at what she does. 646 00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:36,222 All she wants to do is kiss and hug. 647 00:32:36,222 --> 00:32:42,028 She's got me in love and I can feel my heart just pumping 648 00:32:42,028 --> 00:32:43,562 and skipping. 649 00:32:43,562 --> 00:32:45,631 When I'm kissing my love. 650 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:46,598 >> As soon as I figured 651 00:32:46,598 --> 00:32:49,568 out who I was, I married an MBA. 652 00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:50,602 You know what I mean? 653 00:32:50,602 --> 00:32:53,372 The one thing about Marcia is-- 654 00:32:53,372 --> 00:32:59,078 Marcia is an optimist in the face of everything. 655 00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:02,881 >> We live a life that is comfortable and simple. 656 00:33:02,881 --> 00:33:05,617 And I think that [background music] Bill never really wanted, 657 00:33:05,617 --> 00:33:08,820 you know all these riches and material things. 658 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,223 When the kids came along, he was home a lot. 659 00:33:11,223 --> 00:33:13,025 He didn't do a lot of touring. 660 00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:15,061 There were times when I'm sure he really missed being 661 00:33:15,061 --> 00:33:17,996 in the business, making music. 662 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:22,501 But I think that it was more important for him 663 00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:24,036 to have a life and a family. 664 00:33:24,036 --> 00:33:25,971 He had never had a family before. 665 00:33:25,971 --> 00:33:29,075 He had his mother, but his dad died when he was 13, 666 00:33:29,075 --> 00:33:30,842 and I think it was really important for him 667 00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:33,512 to be a father to the kids. 668 00:33:45,057 --> 00:33:54,133 >> I get a warm summer feeling walking 669 00:33:54,766 --> 00:33:56,368 through the snow. 670 00:33:56,368 --> 00:34:03,575 Even chilly darkness has the brightest glow. 671 00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:10,216 And I just love you so. 672 00:34:10,216 --> 00:34:16,188 >> From very early on, 673 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:19,191 my father played a lot of music at home. 674 00:34:19,191 --> 00:34:21,227 Music was never something that was pushed, 675 00:34:21,227 --> 00:34:22,594 it was just always there. 676 00:34:22,594 --> 00:34:25,931 We had two pianos at home, on opposite sides of the house. 677 00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:29,701 It certainly was something that blended the family together. 678 00:34:29,701 --> 00:34:31,370 It was something we all shared. 679 00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:32,438 >> Okay. 680 00:34:32,438 --> 00:34:33,139 >> So you guys have always -- 681 00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,206 >> You're the navigator. 682 00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:35,407 >> Okay 683 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,443 >> You're getting the tour so they're damn good. 684 00:34:37,443 --> 00:34:38,977 >> This was Todd's big day. 685 00:34:38,977 --> 00:34:42,381 He's, you know, accepted into this law school. 686 00:34:42,381 --> 00:34:43,582 >> Exciting! 687 00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:47,353 >> It's exciting for him and it's exciting for us. 688 00:34:47,353 --> 00:34:52,524 I really learned about this whole family thing from Marcia. 689 00:34:52,524 --> 00:34:56,862 I think the older you get, the more your concerns shift 690 00:34:56,862 --> 00:34:58,764 from you to other people. 691 00:34:58,764 --> 00:35:03,569 So, Todd, so do I have to start calling you mister 692 00:35:03,569 --> 00:35:05,137 in a couple years? 693 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:08,307 >> Growing up listening to my dad's songs was just 694 00:35:08,307 --> 00:35:12,043 like the most peaceful space I remember being able 695 00:35:12,043 --> 00:35:13,111 to have as a child. 696 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:16,882 And he kind of speaks in little poems. 697 00:35:16,882 --> 00:35:20,419 You know, the sky is blue and I'm happy to see you. 698 00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:23,255 You know just-- he just would pull it out of anywhere. 699 00:35:23,255 --> 00:35:25,591 Quit crying and start trying. 700 00:35:25,591 --> 00:35:27,826 A lot of times he says, "Write this down." 701 00:35:27,826 --> 00:35:30,529 He says, "Get a pencil," you know, "write this down," 702 00:35:30,529 --> 00:35:33,565 and I'm sure my mother has hundreds of little pieces 703 00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:36,468 of paper just all over the house and just not even full songs, 704 00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:39,638 but two lines, you know, just a thought. 705 00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:41,640 >> Chuck of gold. 706 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,074 >> Sometimes he'll call me just to say that, 707 00:35:43,074 --> 00:35:45,711 "I was thinking this and I want you to make a note of it." 708 00:35:45,711 --> 00:35:49,815 And then some of those things I think make it into Songville. 709 00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:52,584 >> Let me in your life. 710 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:56,822 >> Growing up, I always wanted to be just like my dad, really. 711 00:35:56,822 --> 00:36:00,492 When I started writing songs, it just took a lot of courage 712 00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:04,162 to say that's really, secretly, you know, what I want to do. 713 00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:08,400 >> Paint a portrait of tomorrow 714 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:15,474 with no colors from today. 715 00:36:15,474 --> 00:36:17,876 >> I always wanted to write, but I always thought, 716 00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:20,512 "How could I ever come close to doing the types 717 00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:21,613 of things that he did?" 718 00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:23,549 Just because I know I'm a different person. 719 00:36:23,549 --> 00:36:26,318 I knew I wasn't going to, you know, 720 00:36:26,318 --> 00:36:28,520 sit down the first time I picked a guitar and write 721 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,891 "Ain't No Sunshine", but I know what he thinks is good. 722 00:36:32,891 --> 00:36:35,160 I really didn't want to share anything with him. 723 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,195 I ended up, you know, playing something for him 724 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:40,232 when I wasn't ready, and he was just like, "No, 725 00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:41,567 this is not happening." 726 00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:45,537 It was hard for me because I needed him to just be my dad 727 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,740 and just say, "I'm proud of you that you're working 728 00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,677 on something, or I'm excited about your journey." 729 00:36:51,677 --> 00:36:53,512 And I mean it was none of that. 730 00:36:57,316 --> 00:37:00,719 One thing I always tell my kids is, 731 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,756 you know, it's okay to hit out for wonderful, but on your way 732 00:37:04,756 --> 00:37:08,126 to wonderful, you're going to have to pass through all right. 733 00:37:08,126 --> 00:37:11,597 And when you get to all right, take a good look around 734 00:37:11,597 --> 00:37:14,032 and get used to it, 'cause that may be as far 735 00:37:14,032 --> 00:37:15,667 as you're going to go. 736 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:20,706 Most people don't know or don't care who you are. 737 00:37:20,706 --> 00:37:22,508 You know, I think I'm kind of like pennies. 738 00:37:22,508 --> 00:37:24,476 You have them in your pocket 739 00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:26,878 but you don't remember they're there. 740 00:37:26,878 --> 00:37:30,449 Nobody knows who I am. 741 00:37:30,449 --> 00:37:32,618 Sometimes if I tell somebody who I am, 742 00:37:32,618 --> 00:37:34,219 they'll say, "No, you ain't!" 743 00:37:34,219 --> 00:37:38,490 Or people just don't know, never did and don't care. 744 00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:41,092 I mean I don't work this circuit 745 00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:44,830 where you keep reminding people of you, you know? 746 00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:49,335 This is my first tribute kind-of-thing. 747 00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:52,438 >> We're here tonight for Bill Withers 748 00:37:52,438 --> 00:37:56,041 and his amazing catalogue of music. 749 00:37:56,041 --> 00:38:01,480 An amazing vocalist, songwriter, musician, and someone I've loved 750 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,148 and appreciated for many years. 751 00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:05,384 So congratulations, Bill, 752 00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:10,389 and for you for coming out to support him. 753 00:38:10,389 --> 00:38:11,857 So thank you. 754 00:38:11,857 --> 00:38:13,992 >> Brooklyn's own Corey Glover! 755 00:38:13,992 --> 00:38:23,068 A man we passed just tried to stare me down. 756 00:38:24,336 --> 00:38:30,141 And when I looked at you, you looked at the ground. 757 00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:39,217 Now, I don't know who he is, but I think that you do. 758 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:43,655 You all know this one. 759 00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:49,428 Dadgummit, who is he and what is he to you? 760 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:08,279 Memories take you back 761 00:39:08,279 --> 00:39:12,918 to the good times when it's over. 762 00:39:12,918 --> 00:39:17,022 And the sad times disappear. 763 00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:20,959 >> It would be kind of rough right now to just go out there 764 00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:24,796 and just say, "I want to just see how many people I can make 765 00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:25,997 notice me." 766 00:39:25,997 --> 00:39:29,134 There was a time when that was, that was it, huh. 767 00:39:29,134 --> 00:39:32,538 I want everybody to look at me and everybody to want to know me 768 00:39:32,538 --> 00:39:38,544 and everybody is-- there was a time for that. 769 00:39:38,544 --> 00:39:41,713 This is not that time. 770 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,149 What if I had to get up from here right now 771 00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:47,118 and about 9 o'clock tonight, 772 00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:50,722 start trying to kick up a ruckus? 773 00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:53,692 I'm not feeling that way. 774 00:39:53,692 --> 00:39:56,061 No matter how many people say, "You should feel 775 00:39:56,061 --> 00:40:00,031 that way because-- " I can't. 776 00:40:00,031 --> 00:40:02,868 If I was completely honest with myself, 777 00:40:02,868 --> 00:40:05,036 I'm probably a little manic-depressive. 778 00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:07,238 That's why maybe I might write some songs 779 00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:11,843 that might reach somebody else's emotions, because I have some. 780 00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:14,813 I have my own. 781 00:40:14,813 --> 00:40:18,550 Wouldn't it be fun to say to just all of a sudden just jump 782 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:20,986 up and start shaking it around? 783 00:40:20,986 --> 00:40:22,988 That would be something. 784 00:40:22,988 --> 00:40:27,793 If I just had some showing-off steroids, man, 785 00:40:27,793 --> 00:40:30,462 you would get tired of me, you know what I mean? 786 00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:31,697 I just want to. 787 00:40:31,697 --> 00:40:34,065 And I want to. 788 00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:35,400 I want to. 789 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,769 I sit here, I watch other people show off, and I say, "Man, 790 00:40:37,769 --> 00:40:40,438 I used to want to show off." 791 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:46,377 If I could just get, you know, moved to. 792 00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:50,315 I need a little injection in my showing-off gland, you know. 793 00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:52,083 >> Memories are that way. 794 00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:57,155 >> And is he going to sing again? 795 00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:58,256 What is he doing? 796 00:40:58,256 --> 00:41:00,158 I would love to see Bill sing another record. 797 00:41:00,158 --> 00:41:04,530 There's millions and millions of people that would love to see, 798 00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:06,331 hear Bill Withers again. 799 00:41:06,331 --> 00:41:09,968 If he wants to do it, fine. 800 00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:11,970 If he don't want to do it, I respect that too, 801 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,973 because what he's been through, with the record business 802 00:41:14,973 --> 00:41:19,645 and his life, and to come through it, I may not want 803 00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:20,846 to sing again neither. 804 00:41:20,846 --> 00:41:23,081 >> In some ways I think it's really cool 805 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:25,551 that he hasn't made a record since 1985. 806 00:41:25,551 --> 00:41:27,352 'Cause if he feels like he hasn't anything to say, 807 00:41:27,352 --> 00:41:30,121 or he just wanted to focus on his family and stuff like that, 808 00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:32,991 you've got to define your priorities for yourself. 809 00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:38,296 >> For me, it shows the artist that he is. 810 00:41:38,296 --> 00:41:41,867 It's not only about money, it's about the beauty of the song. 811 00:41:41,867 --> 00:41:48,073 For him not to write a song for-- any album for 23 years, 812 00:41:48,073 --> 00:41:50,508 from me to him, I say, respect . 813 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:53,511 >> It would be great to do some stuff with Bill again. 814 00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:57,649 You know, it would be, you know, I've always thought about that. 815 00:41:57,649 --> 00:41:59,751 We haven't played together for I guess 30 years. 816 00:41:59,751 --> 00:42:04,890 In my career, that was probably the best times that I had. 817 00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:06,291 >> No telling what might happen. 818 00:42:06,291 --> 00:42:09,360 Bill might, you know, pop up and the next thing you know we're 819 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,796 in the studio doing something, you know. 820 00:42:10,796 --> 00:42:12,163 But he is always doing something, 821 00:42:12,163 --> 00:42:13,832 don't think Bill's not recording. 822 00:42:13,832 --> 00:42:15,533 He is doing something, he is writing. 823 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:18,036 It's in his blood, you know, he's writing. 824 00:42:18,036 --> 00:42:19,537 Just like it's in my blood to play this guitar, 825 00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:20,972 it's in his blood to write. 826 00:42:20,972 --> 00:42:24,710 So, hey man, something might pop up, you know. 827 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:26,477 I'll stay optimistic, you know. 828 00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:29,180 But until that, I'll keep on grooving. 829 00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:31,182 >> The hardest thing to be in a-- 830 00:42:31,182 --> 00:42:35,053 in song writing is to be simple and yet profound. 831 00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:39,524 And it's difficult, it's a very difficult art form. 832 00:42:39,524 --> 00:42:45,196 Some people have it intrinsically, some people have 833 00:42:45,196 --> 00:42:48,734 to work very hard, but Bill seemed 834 00:42:48,734 --> 00:42:51,970 to understand intrinsically, instinctively how to do that. 835 00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:54,706 >> Bill Withers can work a whole lot and make a whole lot 836 00:42:54,706 --> 00:42:56,675 of money if he wanted to do that, 837 00:42:56,675 --> 00:42:58,509 but I don't think he's comfortable doing that. 838 00:42:58,509 --> 00:42:59,945 'Cause I've called him time-- 839 00:42:59,945 --> 00:43:02,080 people call me all the time, "Can I get Bill?" 840 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,449 I say, "Hey man, don't call me, you know, 841 00:43:04,449 --> 00:43:06,484 'cause I don't think he's going to do it." 842 00:43:23,201 --> 00:43:27,005 >> We are so remiss 843 00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:34,813 in overvaluing entertainers, of which I am one, no problem. 844 00:43:34,813 --> 00:43:40,986 And athletes, and undervaluing the people among us 845 00:43:40,986 --> 00:43:43,588 who have less obvious gifts. 846 00:43:43,588 --> 00:43:46,858 >> Let me ask you this question about your own legacy, 847 00:43:46,858 --> 00:43:51,629 both personally, as a human being, and as a great artist, 848 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:55,533 that you are, what would you want your legacy to be? 849 00:44:08,013 --> 00:44:12,117 >> I'm in New York because I have the pleasure 850 00:44:12,117 --> 00:44:16,221 of being honored by the Our Time Theatre Group, 851 00:44:16,221 --> 00:44:18,256 and that's for kids who stutter. 852 00:44:18,256 --> 00:44:21,292 And it's a great thing, it's very close to my heart. 853 00:44:21,292 --> 00:44:25,997 Having navigated through my youth and well 854 00:44:25,997 --> 00:44:31,669 into my adulthood dealing with that issue, it's fun to, 855 00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:36,507 you know, see this thing grow. 856 00:44:47,118 --> 00:44:50,822 >> I grew up in a place called Slab Fork, West Virginia, 857 00:44:50,822 --> 00:44:52,891 I'm sure you've been there on many vacations. 858 00:44:52,891 --> 00:44:57,195 Swam in our creek. 859 00:44:57,195 --> 00:45:02,934 No disrespect to Slab Fork, it's a coal-mining camp. 860 00:45:02,934 --> 00:45:06,204 And stuttering is rough for kids, but stuttering 861 00:45:06,204 --> 00:45:07,806 in Slab Fork, West Virginia-- 862 00:45:07,806 --> 00:45:12,543 let's just say you don't go to Slab Fork on the scholarship. 863 00:45:12,543 --> 00:45:14,846 When you're a kid, you want to be cool and you want 864 00:45:14,846 --> 00:45:17,783 to be cool with the cool people. 865 00:45:17,783 --> 00:45:22,220 And that doesn't always happen, so if you can learn 866 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:25,056 to value the people who value you. 867 00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:29,594 And I was very moved when I saw these kids talking 868 00:45:29,594 --> 00:45:31,930 about how much they meant to each other. 869 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:34,833 I am honored to be honored, and let's hope 870 00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:42,473 that each kid finds his own personal comfort zone, 871 00:45:42,473 --> 00:45:46,177 where he can grow and nurture whatever gifts 872 00:45:46,177 --> 00:45:49,247 that he might have because if you take away the people 873 00:45:49,247 --> 00:45:52,283 who stutter from the world, 874 00:45:52,283 --> 00:45:55,520 you're left with a whole bunch of chatty. 875 00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:04,662 Fill in your own word. 876 00:46:06,031 --> 00:46:10,969 >> The kids are so excited to meet you, 877 00:46:10,969 --> 00:46:13,504 I've been playing your music, and they cannot wait 878 00:46:13,504 --> 00:46:15,673 to meet you and talk with you. 879 00:46:15,673 --> 00:46:16,908 >> Yeah. 880 00:46:16,908 --> 00:46:18,176 >> So, you are a role model for me, and for them. 881 00:46:18,176 --> 00:46:19,610 >> Oh, thank you, bud, yeah. 882 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:20,511 Let's go see them. 883 00:46:20,511 --> 00:46:21,079 >> Here, right here. 884 00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:21,646 >> All right. 885 00:46:21,646 --> 00:46:25,250 >> Come on in. 886 00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:26,617 >> Okay. 887 00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:29,487 >> Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce Mr. Bill Withers. 888 00:46:33,691 --> 00:46:35,160 >> Cool. 889 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:42,000 >> You guys having a-- Our Time kids, feel free to come up 890 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,036 and introduce yourself. 891 00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:46,271 >> Yeah. 892 00:46:46,271 --> 00:46:49,640 >> Hi, my name is Victoria. 893 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,141 >> Hi, sweetie. 894 00:46:50,141 --> 00:46:50,708 >> Tanya. 895 00:46:50,708 --> 00:46:51,376 >> Hi, sweetie. 896 00:46:51,376 --> 00:46:52,477 >> Nice to meet you. 897 00:46:52,477 --> 00:46:53,011 >> I'm all right, how you feeling, buddy? 898 00:46:53,011 --> 00:46:53,511 >> I'm good. 899 00:46:53,511 --> 00:46:54,545 >> My man. 900 00:46:54,545 --> 00:46:55,646 What's your name? 901 00:46:55,646 --> 00:46:56,281 >> Joe. 902 00:46:56,281 --> 00:46:57,248 >> All right, Joe. 903 00:46:57,248 --> 00:46:58,749 You know what I noticed 904 00:46:58,749 --> 00:47:03,354 when we were meeting is it's almost like fingerprints. 905 00:47:03,354 --> 00:47:06,657 We each have our own style of stutterings, 906 00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:08,493 which makes us unique. 907 00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:13,164 I really identified with people who stop at their name. 908 00:47:13,164 --> 00:47:14,799 Last night this friend of mine, 909 00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:19,004 who's a fairly well-known painter, had this thing, 910 00:47:19,004 --> 00:47:22,507 so there were a lot of athletes and people that I had seen 911 00:47:22,507 --> 00:47:24,609 in my life, so I wanted to say hello 912 00:47:24,609 --> 00:47:27,545 to everybody and introduce myself. 913 00:47:27,545 --> 00:47:32,683 And I went over to this one guy, and man, I got stuck. 914 00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:35,320 And it brought back memories, because there was a woman 915 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,790 with him and she started to laugh. 916 00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:41,359 It was fear. 917 00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:46,497 Fear of the perception of the listener. 918 00:47:46,497 --> 00:47:49,935 This fear that makes us apprehensive right at the point 919 00:47:49,935 --> 00:47:52,737 of trying to speak, that stops us. 920 00:47:52,737 --> 00:47:56,307 Well, one of the ways to deal with the fear is 921 00:47:56,307 --> 00:48:01,246 to approach people with a prepared forgiveness. 922 00:48:01,246 --> 00:48:03,949 We have to be more civil than most people 923 00:48:03,949 --> 00:48:05,783 that we will encounter. 924 00:48:05,783 --> 00:48:11,056 Having had people not understand me a lot maybe helped me wait a 925 00:48:11,056 --> 00:48:14,592 little beat to where I can extend something 926 00:48:14,592 --> 00:48:16,661 that hasn't been given to me. 927 00:48:16,661 --> 00:48:19,197 And I think that makes you a much bigger person. 928 00:48:19,197 --> 00:48:22,167 >> We are thrilled to have you here, and everything 929 00:48:22,167 --> 00:48:25,703 that you said just means so much to me personally, and we'd love 930 00:48:25,703 --> 00:48:27,738 to sing for you today. 931 00:48:27,738 --> 00:48:29,307 >> I would have been insulted 932 00:48:29,307 --> 00:48:34,812 if you would have not done something for me. 933 00:48:35,646 --> 00:48:36,614 >> Sometimes I feel 934 00:48:36,614 --> 00:48:40,818 like everyone's always ignoring me. 935 00:48:40,818 --> 00:48:49,327 Sometimes I feel like everyone's always ridiculing me. 936 00:48:49,327 --> 00:48:56,367 All I want in this whole world is 937 00:48:56,367 --> 00:49:01,639 to be myself, and nobody else. 938 00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:09,047 All I want in this whole world is love, is love, is love. 939 00:49:09,047 --> 00:49:18,123 All I want in this world is love. 940 00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:29,367 All I want in this world is love. 941 00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:38,643 All I want in this world is love. 942 00:49:40,011 --> 00:49:41,479 >> Yeah. 943 00:49:47,918 --> 00:49:51,489 >> I understood what you meant, you know. 944 00:49:51,489 --> 00:49:54,925 There's an old Southern saying that says, you know, 945 00:49:54,925 --> 00:49:59,030 it don't sound right if it ain't said right. 946 00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:02,733 You know. So you guys are saying, your feeling's right, 947 00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:06,737 so keep, you know, just keep doing that. 948 00:50:06,737 --> 00:50:11,409 And it's really a big favor to me, you know, for you guys 949 00:50:11,409 --> 00:50:14,912 to remind me of some things that maybe I had forgotten, 950 00:50:14,912 --> 00:50:20,551 and maybe some-- to show me some things that I didn't know. 951 00:50:20,551 --> 00:50:23,521 So, you guys are cool. 952 00:50:41,572 --> 00:50:44,642 And next time I see you I probably won't be this nice. 953 00:50:44,642 --> 00:50:51,549 We have to make allowances for each other. 954 00:51:05,029 --> 00:51:08,233 Thoreau I think said the mass 955 00:51:08,233 --> 00:51:11,802 of men lead lives of quiet desperation. 956 00:51:11,802 --> 00:51:13,504 I would like to know how it feels 957 00:51:13,504 --> 00:51:16,507 for my desperation to get louder. 958 00:51:22,547 --> 00:51:25,049 Yes, Raul Midon, please. 959 00:51:25,049 --> 00:51:26,551 >> Hello. 960 00:51:26,551 --> 00:51:28,653 >> Hello, Raul. 961 00:51:28,653 --> 00:51:29,454 >> Yes. 962 00:51:29,454 --> 00:51:30,788 >> It's Bill Withers. 963 00:51:30,788 --> 00:51:31,789 How you doing, bud? 964 00:51:31,789 --> 00:51:33,591 >> Oh, good. 965 00:51:33,591 --> 00:51:37,362 >> I was hoping that at some point or another, you know, 966 00:51:37,362 --> 00:51:41,031 that you would maybe have just a little time 967 00:51:41,031 --> 00:51:43,968 so we could just mess around, you know? 968 00:51:43,968 --> 00:51:47,305 Just you and me, you know, we could plonk around, 969 00:51:47,305 --> 00:51:50,175 I'll even break out my old Linn drum machine 970 00:51:50,175 --> 00:51:54,078 to make some noise, you know what I mean? 971 00:51:54,078 --> 00:51:55,480 >> I don't know what to say. 972 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,583 I'm just so happy that you're interested and man, you know, 973 00:51:58,583 --> 00:52:00,618 I'd love to put our heads together. 974 00:52:00,618 --> 00:52:03,588 >> I'd like to try something out on you, Raul. 975 00:52:03,588 --> 00:52:04,989 >> Okay. 976 00:52:04,989 --> 00:52:09,894 >> Because I've always wanted to write something in Spanish. 977 00:52:09,894 --> 00:52:14,832 I had a friend, a Cuban friend, and we worked together 978 00:52:14,832 --> 00:52:18,736 and we laughed all the time, and it was just great. 979 00:52:18,736 --> 00:52:22,540 And I really miss him, you know? 980 00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:23,541 >> Yeah. 981 00:52:23,541 --> 00:52:25,576 >> What I was thinking, to start off, 982 00:52:25,576 --> 00:52:31,081 "Mi amigo Cubano, hola, como esta? 983 00:52:31,081 --> 00:52:34,752 Que paso, mi hermano," and I don't know whether you would say 984 00:52:34,752 --> 00:52:37,054 "tu" or "usted" there, but one or the other. 985 00:52:37,054 --> 00:52:41,091 I'll just say "tu y yo no mas hablar." 986 00:52:41,091 --> 00:52:44,028 >> Yeah, "tu", definitely, because you're good friends. 987 00:52:44,028 --> 00:52:47,064 >> Now your background is what, Raul? 988 00:52:47,064 --> 00:52:51,202 >> My background is my mother was African-American 989 00:52:51,202 --> 00:52:53,871 and my father is Argentinian. 990 00:52:53,871 --> 00:52:57,975 When I lived in Miami, I got very deeply involved 991 00:52:57,975 --> 00:53:01,045 in Cuban music, the music called guaguanco. 992 00:53:01,045 --> 00:53:02,046 >> Oh. 993 00:53:02,046 --> 00:53:03,581 >> In guaguanco, everything goes together 994 00:53:03,581 --> 00:53:06,050 so there's the clave, right? 995 00:53:06,484 --> 00:53:07,885 >> Okay. 996 00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:12,089 >> And then it goes boom boom boom boom, boom boom boom boom, 997 00:53:12,089 --> 00:53:13,724 boom boom boom boom, you know? 998 00:53:13,724 --> 00:53:16,627 As you're doing all that, you sing, 999 00:53:16,627 --> 00:53:19,864 and you keep all that going. 1000 00:53:19,864 --> 00:53:25,503 Ae, ae, ae la chambelona, ae, ae, ae la chambelona. 1001 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,041 You know what I'm saying?' 1002 00:53:31,041 --> 00:53:32,277 >> Yeah, Raul. 1003 00:53:32,277 --> 00:53:37,882 Yeah, man, we're going to use all 1004 00:53:37,882 --> 00:53:39,550 that stuff you know, Raul. 1005 00:53:39,550 --> 00:53:43,421 That's about all the preview I would like to do on that. 1006 00:53:43,421 --> 00:53:46,824 Let's just walk in with a blank sheet of paper 1007 00:53:46,824 --> 00:53:49,059 and see what we can mark on it. 1008 00:53:49,059 --> 00:53:50,595 >> Sounds good to me. 1009 00:53:50,595 --> 00:53:51,996 >> Yeah. 1010 00:53:51,996 --> 00:53:57,435 >> Sometimes a song is funky cos you feel that way. 1011 00:53:57,435 --> 00:54:05,310 A song might be easy and melancholy on another day. 1012 00:54:05,310 --> 00:54:10,448 Sometimes a song gets mean and evil cos it ain't going right. 1013 00:54:10,448 --> 00:54:15,119 Sometimes a song just might get nervous cos you might 1014 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:16,454 be uptight. 1015 00:54:16,454 --> 00:54:19,724 >> I don't even know what chords he has for it, you know, 1016 00:54:19,724 --> 00:54:24,329 so it's all going to be kind of a question of openness. 1017 00:54:24,329 --> 00:54:28,933 I'm going to bring what I have to the table and hopefully, 1018 00:54:28,933 --> 00:54:30,100 you know, come up with something. 1019 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,169 I mean, I just felt very honored. 1020 00:54:32,169 --> 00:54:33,571 >> Dad? 1021 00:54:33,571 --> 00:54:37,642 >> Sometimes a song is tender, sometimes a song is sad. 1022 00:54:37,642 --> 00:54:39,344 >> Oh, this is Raul. 1023 00:54:39,344 --> 00:54:40,177 Hey, bud. 1024 00:54:40,177 --> 00:54:41,579 >> Maybe that evening 1025 00:54:41,579 --> 00:54:47,652 that you wrote the song that's all the feeling you had. 1026 00:54:47,652 --> 00:54:48,586 >> How you doing, Raul? 1027 00:54:48,586 --> 00:54:50,154 Let's walk in here to the studio. 1028 00:54:50,154 --> 00:54:53,424 >> Sometimes a song just feels real good 1029 00:54:53,424 --> 00:54:55,192 and lays right there in the groove. 1030 00:54:55,192 --> 00:54:56,260 >> Feels like a studio. 1031 00:54:56,260 --> 00:54:57,328 >> Yeah? 1032 00:54:57,328 --> 00:54:58,929 >> I'm going to be largely dependent on you 1033 00:54:58,929 --> 00:55:02,567 because I have no skills, Raul. 1034 00:55:02,567 --> 00:55:03,267 See, you're the-- 1035 00:55:03,267 --> 00:55:04,201 >> Well, I am-- yeah. 1036 00:55:04,201 --> 00:55:05,403 >> You are the virtuoso. 1037 00:55:05,403 --> 00:55:06,771 No, I'm serious. 1038 00:55:06,771 --> 00:55:10,941 I got this stuff in here, I can't play any of this stuff. 1039 00:55:12,242 --> 00:55:13,878 >> I learned, you know what, instead of putting myself 1040 00:55:13,878 --> 00:55:19,384 in a situation where my blindness makes me inferior, 1041 00:55:19,384 --> 00:55:20,885 I'm going to create a situation 1042 00:55:20,885 --> 00:55:23,588 where I can put my strengths out there. 1043 00:55:23,588 --> 00:55:27,592 I think that when you're disabled in any way 1044 00:55:27,592 --> 00:55:29,960 or when you have some, I think you have 1045 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,629 to figure out how you learn. 1046 00:55:31,629 --> 00:55:34,832 >> But you know what, Raul, you use the word disabled. 1047 00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:35,766 >> Right. 1048 00:55:35,766 --> 00:55:40,304 >> You are enabled in other areas 1049 00:55:40,304 --> 00:55:42,440 that the average person doesn't have. 1050 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,275 I was a stutterer until I was 28. 1051 00:55:45,275 --> 00:55:49,647 I used to avoid the phone and, you know, just anywhere 1052 00:55:49,647 --> 00:55:52,016 where you had to talk. 1053 00:55:52,016 --> 00:55:55,085 And people would get up in your face and say, 1054 00:55:55,085 --> 00:55:57,154 "Spit it out, spit it out!" 1055 00:55:57,154 --> 00:56:01,025 as if you had a choice in the matter, you know what I mean? 1056 00:56:01,025 --> 00:56:02,159 >> Yeah. 1057 00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:04,695 >> As if you got in that line and said, "Well, 1058 00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:06,263 I think I'm going to get in," you know, 1059 00:56:06,263 --> 00:56:09,266 when you're getting ready to be born, you know, like, 1060 00:56:09,266 --> 00:56:11,235 "I think I'll get in the stuttering line." 1061 00:56:11,235 --> 00:56:15,473 And the thing is, what do you do 1062 00:56:15,473 --> 00:56:17,875 after you find out you're here? 1063 00:56:17,875 --> 00:56:20,678 So then, you know, there was a phrase 1064 00:56:20,678 --> 00:56:23,914 that I kept batting around, "In my mind's eye, 1065 00:56:23,914 --> 00:56:26,050 I can see the world from here." 1066 00:56:26,050 --> 00:56:27,952 >> Right. Wow. 1067 00:56:27,952 --> 00:56:28,853 >> How's that? 1068 00:56:28,853 --> 00:56:30,120 >> I love it. 1069 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,523 >> You want to play with that later? 1070 00:56:32,523 --> 00:56:33,858 >> Yes. 1071 00:56:33,858 --> 00:56:35,626 >> Why don't you write that down so you don't forget it? 1072 00:56:35,626 --> 00:56:37,261 >> I'm writing it down. 1073 00:56:37,261 --> 00:56:38,696 I love it, and it could be something 1074 00:56:38,696 --> 00:56:41,699 about being clear with the mind-- 1075 00:56:41,699 --> 00:56:43,100 >> Yeah, okay, write down clear. 1076 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,902 I can see the world from here. 1077 00:56:44,902 --> 00:56:46,637 >> Yeah. So because it's-- 1078 00:56:46,637 --> 00:56:48,105 >> And sometimes I-- 1079 00:56:48,105 --> 00:56:52,777 >> Because clarity, in the mind's eye, is absolute. 1080 00:56:52,777 --> 00:56:54,178 It can be absolute. 1081 00:56:54,178 --> 00:56:57,414 >> Okay. Okay now let's begin another line. 1082 00:56:57,414 --> 00:57:04,088 >> I can hear the dream, my dream, so clear. 1083 00:57:04,088 --> 00:57:04,922 >> Yeah. 1084 00:57:04,922 --> 00:57:07,492 >> Just an idea, just an idea. 1085 00:57:07,492 --> 00:57:08,659 Okay. 1086 00:57:08,659 --> 00:57:09,860 >> That's good, Raul. 1087 00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:10,995 That's good. 1088 00:57:10,995 --> 00:57:13,598 In my mind's eye, I can see the world from here. 1089 00:57:13,598 --> 00:57:19,604 >> And sometimes I can hear my dreams so clear. 1090 00:57:19,604 --> 00:57:21,371 >> Get down, Raul, come on, brother. 1091 00:57:21,371 --> 00:57:23,173 Throw something in the pot. 1092 00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:24,008 There you go. 1093 00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:26,611 >> Because people always ask me about dreams. 1094 00:57:26,611 --> 00:57:28,579 "How do you dream if you can't see?" 1095 00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:30,815 Well, I hear in my dreams, don't you? 1096 00:57:30,815 --> 00:57:31,516 >> Yeah. 1097 00:57:31,516 --> 00:57:32,817 >> You know what I mean? 1098 00:57:32,817 --> 00:57:35,486 It's not about seeing, it's about being in your dream. 1099 00:57:47,532 --> 00:57:51,001 >> I don't know what would motivate someone 1100 00:57:51,001 --> 00:57:53,671 at the point in their life that he's in, 1101 00:57:53,671 --> 00:57:55,239 with the break that he's taken. 1102 00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:59,043 But I do know that he has no problem throwing 1103 00:57:59,043 --> 00:58:00,711 down when he feels like throwing down. 1104 00:58:00,711 --> 00:58:05,149 When he wants to do something, I mean, he's just obsessed, 1105 00:58:05,149 --> 00:58:07,985 he's all in, up at 2 o'clock in the morning, not eating, 1106 00:58:07,985 --> 00:58:10,788 not sleeping, and that's exhausting. 1107 00:58:10,788 --> 00:58:14,258 >> Mi amigo Cubano. 1108 00:58:14,258 --> 00:58:15,225 >> Yeah. 1109 00:58:15,225 --> 00:58:20,164 No, I'm looking for the count-in. 1110 00:58:20,164 --> 00:58:24,735 >> Hola, como esta? 1111 00:58:24,735 --> 00:58:28,472 Mi amigo Cubano. 1112 00:58:35,412 --> 00:58:39,483 Que paso, mi hermano? 1113 00:58:46,023 --> 00:58:50,494 Mi amigo Cubano. 1114 00:59:00,938 --> 00:59:03,240 >> There you go, Raul, that's what I'm talking about, see. 1115 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,875 >> That was pretty cool, actually. 1116 00:59:04,875 --> 00:59:08,579 >> You know, you know, it all gets back to that thing. 1117 00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:11,882 If you start sweet, then you got somewhere to go. 1118 00:59:11,882 --> 00:59:16,320 Let me go to 41 here and see what's happening, Raul. 1119 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,689 Bear with me here, one more time, okay? 1120 00:59:18,689 --> 00:59:22,192 Listen to this and then I'll make my next edit, okay? 1121 00:59:22,192 --> 00:59:24,394 >> Hola, como esta? 1122 00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:29,333 >> I think Bill is always thinking of songs. 1123 00:59:29,333 --> 00:59:33,270 He has songs that he's created over the last, you know, 10, 1124 00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:36,807 15 years that are on tape. 1125 00:59:36,807 --> 00:59:41,111 He put a lot into building that studio. 1126 00:59:41,111 --> 00:59:43,881 I think in his imagination, he felt, 1127 00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:45,249 I'm going to do some music. 1128 00:59:45,249 --> 00:59:48,118 Whether or not he was going to actually, you know, 1129 00:59:48,118 --> 00:59:50,420 put it out there, that's another story. 1130 00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:53,924 >> Background Amigo Cubano. 1131 00:59:53,924 --> 00:59:54,959 >> Right. 1132 00:59:54,959 --> 00:59:56,093 >> Ba-do be-da-go-do-go-dee. 1133 00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:59,163 >> Selfishly, it would be fantastic, fantastic, 1134 00:59:59,163 --> 01:00:03,133 if he would put a-- you know, get a record together 1135 01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:06,103 and it'd be new music and all that kind of stuff. 1136 01:00:06,103 --> 01:00:09,306 And it'd be fun, but realistically, 1137 01:00:09,306 --> 01:00:11,341 I'm not sure that he wants that. 1138 01:00:11,341 --> 01:00:14,044 He just hasn't, you know, wanted to get back 1139 01:00:14,044 --> 01:00:16,480 into the music business. 1140 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,516 >> Que paso, mi hermano. 1141 01:00:23,053 --> 01:00:25,355 >> I'm going to go to the Carnival here. 1142 01:00:27,725 --> 01:00:30,094 >> Mi amigo Cubano. 1143 01:00:30,094 --> 01:00:31,796 >> There it is, there. 1144 01:00:31,796 --> 01:00:34,164 >> Yeah, there it is. 1145 01:00:34,164 --> 01:00:36,033 Right, there it is. 1146 01:00:38,068 --> 01:00:42,539 >> Mi amigo Cubano. 1147 01:00:46,376 --> 01:00:50,147 It's got that hump. 1148 01:00:50,147 --> 01:00:52,616 >> Que paso, mi hermano? 1149 01:00:52,616 --> 01:00:55,652 >> I might just go in this frenzy, 1150 01:00:55,652 --> 01:01:00,090 you know, just become obsessed with it every day. 1151 01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:02,827 All you hear is just noise and me. 1152 01:01:02,827 --> 01:01:05,129 You know what I mean? 1153 01:01:05,129 --> 01:01:08,498 I would like that. 1154 01:01:20,044 --> 01:01:24,281 Let's figure it out. 1155 01:01:24,281 --> 01:01:26,316 Waay-oh. 1156 01:01:26,316 --> 01:01:32,156 There's just so much about you that I like. 1157 01:01:32,156 --> 01:01:41,231 And it's been so good to know how you've always been there 1158 01:01:46,170 --> 01:01:51,075 for me when I needed a friend. 1159 01:01:51,075 --> 01:01:55,045 And oh, by the way any time, any time, any time of the night 1160 01:01:55,045 --> 01:02:04,054 or day I will be just a telephone call away. 1161 01:02:05,689 --> 01:02:09,860 Come on, Kori, sing that bridge. 1162 01:02:09,860 --> 01:02:11,929 >> Say if you need me. 1163 01:02:11,929 --> 01:02:21,005 I'll always be just a telephone call a-wa-a-ay. 1164 01:02:24,241 --> 01:02:28,278 >> Go ahead, sing it. 1165 01:02:28,278 --> 01:02:37,354 >> And oh, by the way I just want to say any time, 1166 01:02:45,462 --> 01:02:54,538 any ti-ime, any time of the night or day. 1167 01:03:01,278 --> 01:03:10,354 I will be ju-u-u-ust a telephone call away. 1168 01:03:11,621 --> 01:03:12,456 >> Yeah. 1169 01:03:12,456 --> 01:03:19,329 >> Yeah. Let's get out of here. 1170 01:03:19,329 --> 01:03:24,368 >> That sounded really nice . 1171 01:03:24,368 --> 01:03:39,583 >> But Kori, girl, we can work that tune. 1172 01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:41,952 >> We can. 1173 01:03:41,952 --> 01:03:47,091 >> We can do that song. 1174 01:03:47,091 --> 01:03:49,593 >> Yeah. As far as music goes, 1175 01:03:49,593 --> 01:03:53,563 I think my dad is a pretty honest critic, and I really had 1176 01:03:53,563 --> 01:03:56,033 to toughen up and realize that there's a difference 1177 01:03:56,033 --> 01:03:58,235 between someone criticizing you 1178 01:03:58,235 --> 01:04:00,770 in a way that's saying you're untalented 1179 01:04:00,770 --> 01:04:03,473 and someone being a coach, you know, someone saying, "Yeah, 1180 01:04:03,473 --> 01:04:05,575 that wasn't a strike." 1181 01:04:05,575 --> 01:04:08,378 >> You ain't no joke, sugar. 1182 01:04:08,378 --> 01:04:09,246 >> No. 1183 01:04:09,246 --> 01:04:10,347 >> You ain't no joke. 1184 01:04:10,347 --> 01:04:12,016 >> That was so great to sing in that room. 1185 01:04:12,016 --> 01:04:13,150 The acoustic is there. 1186 01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:14,484 >> Yeah. You getting a little grease on you, 1187 01:04:14,484 --> 01:04:16,753 that's what I'm talking about, you understand? 1188 01:04:16,753 --> 01:04:20,324 You know, getting a little grease on you, that's, you know, 1189 01:04:20,324 --> 01:04:28,999 you bringing the, you bringing the stuff, Kori. 1190 01:04:28,999 --> 01:04:32,970 Let's hit this sucker here. 1191 01:04:34,238 --> 01:04:35,505 Yeah. 1192 01:04:35,505 --> 01:04:40,410 >> I knew there are ways that my father is gifted, 1193 01:04:40,410 --> 01:04:43,580 and that I'm different than that, and that I'm going to have 1194 01:04:43,580 --> 01:04:46,650 to find my own process in sort of my own way, 1195 01:04:46,650 --> 01:04:49,453 and for me I just knew that I wanted to get better. 1196 01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:52,789 >> You just be comfortable and we'll make all this work. 1197 01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:53,390 >> Okay. That's a . 1198 01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:54,091 Okay. 1199 01:04:54,091 --> 01:04:55,159 >> Yeah. 1200 01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:57,427 >> I'm going to lift this just slightly. 1201 01:04:57,427 --> 01:04:58,495 >> Do what you want to with it. 1202 01:04:58,495 --> 01:05:00,130 You want it closer, further away? 1203 01:05:00,130 --> 01:05:01,431 >> No, that's good. 1204 01:05:01,431 --> 01:05:05,535 This is a-- this is called Blue Blues. 1205 01:05:18,882 --> 01:05:27,958 >> I've moved on from you, so I say, so it seemed. 1206 01:05:29,193 --> 01:05:34,331 You are gone far away, I let you go, I set you free. 1207 01:05:34,331 --> 01:05:39,569 Still I swim in a sea of you. 1208 01:05:39,569 --> 01:05:40,837 My blue. 1209 01:05:40,837 --> 01:05:42,806 >> My biggest fear, worst nightmare, 1210 01:05:42,806 --> 01:05:51,881 was that I would be a disappointment to him, 1211 01:05:53,283 --> 01:06:01,925 that I would show him what I had and he would be disappointed, 1212 01:06:12,702 --> 01:06:16,073 because I knew he always was really eager to work with me, 1213 01:06:16,073 --> 01:06:19,809 and I was always just like, "Why? 1214 01:06:19,809 --> 01:06:22,079 You're Bill Withers. 1215 01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:25,882 Why would you ever want to do that? 1216 01:06:25,882 --> 01:06:28,418 Like, why would you ever want to do that?" 1217 01:06:28,418 --> 01:06:32,622 And I just could never see how he and I could sit in a room 1218 01:06:32,622 --> 01:06:35,025 as equals and do anything together. 1219 01:06:35,025 --> 01:06:39,996 >> I give up, I give in, 1220 01:06:39,996 --> 01:06:50,974 I can't hide away this love I'm in will never have me, 1221 01:06:52,476 --> 01:07:01,485 will only leave me deep in the sea of my blue, blue blues. 1222 01:07:24,708 --> 01:07:26,843 >> Oh, that's great. 1223 01:07:26,843 --> 01:07:28,044 >> Oh, I'm sorry. 1224 01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:36,653 >> I'm just, you know, I'm just glad to see you. 1225 01:07:39,289 --> 01:07:48,365 You know what I mean. 1226 01:07:48,932 --> 01:07:53,237 Let's hear that. 1227 01:07:53,237 --> 01:07:59,075 Let's hear that. 1228 01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:07,384 >> We're all accidents at birth, you know? 1229 01:08:07,384 --> 01:08:10,920 We don't get to choose, you know, what we look like, 1230 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,990 we don't get to choose how gifted we're going to be, 1231 01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:18,295 how tall, how strong, we don't get to choose anything 1232 01:08:18,295 --> 01:08:21,198 about what we're going to be. 1233 01:08:21,198 --> 01:08:24,568 One day, somebody says, "You are." 1234 01:08:24,568 --> 01:08:29,373 At some point or another, we have a choice 1235 01:08:31,208 --> 01:08:34,144 if we're sane enough by that point, 1236 01:08:34,144 --> 01:08:38,448 as to how much we're going to apply ourselves, 1237 01:08:38,448 --> 01:08:44,488 and a lot of that is influenced by the people who nurture us. 1238 01:08:54,664 --> 01:08:57,367 I already did what I did. 1239 01:08:57,367 --> 01:09:01,738 You know, I'm not that little boy or that young guy anymore 1240 01:09:01,738 --> 01:09:05,442 that hasn't had any validation. 1241 01:10:42,472 --> 01:10:44,541 >> Grandma's hand clapped 1242 01:10:44,541 --> 01:10:49,379 in church on Sunday morning. 1243 01:10:49,379 --> 01:10:54,884 Grandma's hand played a tambourine so well. 1244 01:10:54,884 --> 01:11:00,590 Grandma's hand issued out a warning, Billy, don't you run 1245 01:11:00,590 --> 01:11:06,596 so fast, might fall on a piece of glass, 1246 01:11:06,596 --> 01:11:09,333 might be snakes there in that grass. 1247 01:11:09,333 --> 01:11:11,501 Grandma's hand-- 1248 01:11:48,638 --> 01:11:50,574 And you know 1249 01:11:50,574 --> 01:11:55,379 that Grandma's hands soothed a local unwed mother. 1250 01:11:55,379 --> 01:11:59,949 Grandma's hand it aches some times and swells. 1251 01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:03,219 Grandma's hands lift her face and tell her, Baby, 1252 01:12:03,219 --> 01:12:05,389 Grandma understand that you really love 1253 01:12:05,389 --> 01:12:14,464 that man even though he ain't no good. 1254 01:12:15,298 --> 01:12:17,767 Grandma's hand. 1255 01:12:17,767 --> 01:12:20,504 Come on, play it, man. 1256 01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:34,478 >> A man we passed just tried to stare me down 1257 01:13:35,745 --> 01:13:43,520 and when I looked at you, you looked at the ground. 1258 01:13:45,922 --> 01:13:54,664 I don't know who he is but I think that you do. 1259 01:13:54,664 --> 01:14:00,303 Dadgummit, who is he and what is he to you? 1260 01:14:00,303 --> 01:14:05,475 Ah, something in my heart 1261 01:14:05,475 --> 01:14:14,551 and in your eye tells me he's not someone just passing by. 1262 01:14:22,726 --> 01:14:31,768 Ah, and when you cleared your throat, was that your cue? 1263 01:14:33,336 --> 01:14:39,308 Dadgummit, who is he and what is he to you? 1264 01:14:39,308 --> 01:14:48,384 And now, when I add the sum of you and me, I get confused 1265 01:14:54,658 --> 01:14:58,895 and I keep coming up with three. 1266 01:14:58,895 --> 01:15:07,904 You're too much for one man but not enough for two. 1267 01:15:12,041 --> 01:15:18,047 Dadgummit, who is he and what is he to you? 1268 01:15:18,047 --> 01:15:27,123 Well, you tell me men don't have much intuition is 1269 01:15:28,391 --> 01:15:33,462 that what you're really thinking girl or are you wishing? 1270 01:15:33,462 --> 01:15:46,475 Before you wreck your old home, please search another new. 1271 01:15:50,446 --> 01:15:59,522 Dadgummit, who is he and what is he to you? 1272 01:16:00,624 --> 01:16:09,165 Dadgummit, who is he and what is he to you? 1273 01:16:10,900 --> 01:16:19,475 Dadgummit, who is he and what is he to you? 1274 01:16:19,475 --> 01:16:20,744 Dadgummit-- 97649

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