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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 0 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,370 MICHAEL HEMANN: So let's put in some numbers here. 1 00:00:03,370 --> 00:00:07,260 So we have just that formula again, 100 times 2 00:00:07,260 --> 00:00:13,830 T plus 6NPD over 2E. 3 00:00:13,830 --> 00:00:27,140 So say you have 75 PDs, you have 20 T's, and you have 5 NPDs. 4 00:00:27,140 --> 00:00:30,950 So here we have your distance in centimorgans 5 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:38,120 equals 100 times the number of T's plus 6 times the number 6 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,660 of NPDs over 2 times the total number, 7 00:00:42,660 --> 00:00:56,400 which is 100, which equals 50 over 200, or 25 centimorgans. 8 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,900 So think about this. 9 00:00:57,900 --> 00:01:01,740 If you just counted random gametes, 10 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:07,464 so if you just counted random gametes, you would have, 11 00:01:07,464 --> 00:01:10,830 obviously, T's, and NPDs, and PDs, but you're 12 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:13,545 just going to count just single cells without regard. 13 00:01:13,545 --> 00:01:16,890 14 00:01:16,890 --> 00:01:23,460 So you'd expect for every T you have, 15 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:33,720 so you have 20 T's, you'd have two recombinants within those 16 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,040 T's. 17 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,315 So that would be the T class. 18 00:01:36,315 --> 00:01:39,490 19 00:01:39,490 --> 00:01:45,308 Plus you'd have four recombinants for every NPD 20 00:01:45,308 --> 00:01:45,850 that you had. 21 00:01:45,850 --> 00:01:47,980 So you're just counting these randomly. 22 00:01:47,980 --> 00:01:52,590 So T's and NPDs. 23 00:01:52,590 --> 00:02:01,250 So if you looked at 100 times 40, so 20 times 2 24 00:02:01,250 --> 00:02:08,100 plus 5 times 4 over the total number of gametes 25 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:14,680 that you have, so it's 100 times 4, 26 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,140 it would give you 15 centimorgans. 27 00:02:17,140 --> 00:02:20,410 If, essentially, we're not taking the double recombinants 28 00:02:20,410 --> 00:02:24,460 into account, we're systematically underestimating 29 00:02:24,460 --> 00:02:25,930 genetic distances. 30 00:02:25,930 --> 00:02:30,100 And so this ability to look at tetrad types 31 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:34,630 allows you to essentially infer the existence 32 00:02:34,630 --> 00:02:38,490 of double crossovers based on the number of NPDs, 33 00:02:38,490 --> 00:02:41,170 so the number of double crossovers that we don't see. 34 00:02:41,170 --> 00:02:43,840 The double crossovers that are tetra types, 35 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,620 or the double crossovers that come from-- 36 00:02:47,620 --> 00:02:50,120 that look like parental ditypes you remember here. 37 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,350 So for example, in this case where 38 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:55,870 we have a first crossover of 2, 3, 39 00:02:55,870 --> 00:02:59,020 and a second crossover of 2, 3, this 40 00:02:59,020 --> 00:03:01,540 resulted in a parental ditype. 41 00:03:01,540 --> 00:03:04,480 But in reality, there were two recombination events here. 42 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,040 We're just not seeing them, because 43 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,700 the second recombination shifted the initial recombination 44 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:10,820 event back. 45 00:03:10,820 --> 00:03:15,490 So what the NPD stuff does is it allows us to look at-- 46 00:03:15,490 --> 00:03:18,820 infer the existence of these double crossover events. 47 00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:21,830 Now importantly, this formula can be applied 48 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:25,240 if there are no NPD events. 49 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:31,640 So if there are no NPD events, it's just 100 times 50 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:38,630 T plus 6 times 0 over 2E, which equals 51 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:43,220 T over 2E, which is just the formula that we had before 52 00:03:43,220 --> 00:03:44,630 for a tightly linked gene. 53 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:49,118 So you can include it, even as a general formula. 54 00:03:49,118 --> 00:03:50,660 And you can also think OK, well, what 55 00:03:50,660 --> 00:03:55,070 happens if you had totally unlinked genes? 56 00:03:55,070 --> 00:03:59,450 So we would expect this ratio of one to four to one 57 00:03:59,450 --> 00:04:00,450 if they're unlinked. 58 00:04:00,450 --> 00:04:11,030 So 10PD to 40T to 10NPD. 59 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:15,440 So what happens if we actually put-- so unlinked numbers 60 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,800 into this equation? 61 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:23,570 So say we have 100 times the number 62 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:35,860 of T's, so in this case, say, 40 T's, plus the number of NPDs 63 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:43,240 times 6 over the total, or 2E, which would be 2 times 60. 64 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,970 I'm just putting in these numbers here into that formula. 65 00:04:46,970 --> 00:05:02,008 We would get 100 times 100 over 120, which is something 66 00:05:02,008 --> 00:05:02,800 like, I don't know. 67 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,280 What is it, 83 centimorgans? 68 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:08,320 So if they're unlinked, it's giving us 69 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,680 a number that's greater than 50 centimorgans, which suggests 70 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,870 that they're in fact unlinked. 71 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:17,620 So it allows us to generally put in numbers, regardless 72 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:19,750 whether they are linked or unlinked, 73 00:05:19,750 --> 00:05:21,850 to get some kind of genetic distance. 74 00:05:21,850 --> 00:05:24,910 And again, if you're going to try to exclude some hypothesis 75 00:05:24,910 --> 00:05:30,118 or take another into account, your numbers are going to-- 76 00:05:30,118 --> 00:05:31,660 the numbers that you have, the number 77 00:05:31,660 --> 00:05:38,470 of tetrads that you analyze are going to matter, absolutely. 78 00:05:38,470 --> 00:05:42,850 So numbers do matter here in making a statistical inference 79 00:05:42,850 --> 00:05:44,590 based on this data. 80 00:05:44,590 --> 00:05:48,910 But with the data in general, or what the approach generally 81 00:05:48,910 --> 00:05:51,580 allows you to do is remember, we had this issue 82 00:05:51,580 --> 00:06:05,570 before comparing genetic distance and physical distance 83 00:06:05,570 --> 00:06:09,290 where essentially in the other systems, 84 00:06:09,290 --> 00:06:12,620 in the Drosophila system and also in mammalian systems, 85 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:16,220 this is really breaking down early on. 86 00:06:16,220 --> 00:06:23,700 So basically at 50 centimorgans, there's 87 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:30,180 really no ability to discern any distance whatsoever, but really 88 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:32,310 breaks down significantly before them. 89 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:37,420 With yeast and tetrad analysis, we 90 00:06:37,420 --> 00:06:40,990 can actually look at accurate interactions, 91 00:06:40,990 --> 00:06:44,200 maybe up until 40 centimorgans or so. 92 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:49,120 Once you start getting to greater genetic distances, 93 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,550 the recombination rates, or double recombination rates 94 00:06:51,550 --> 00:06:54,220 really obscure this connection between genetic distance 95 00:06:54,220 --> 00:06:55,370 and physical distance. 96 00:06:55,370 --> 00:07:00,370 So this tetrad analysis again provides much more accurate 97 00:07:00,370 --> 00:07:05,230 measures of genetic distance. 98 00:07:05,230 --> 00:07:10,000 The real truth here is that that 50 centimorgan distance 99 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,890 is the distance at which recombination distances are 100 00:07:14,890 --> 00:07:18,465 impossible to measure, because 50 means 50% recombination. 101 00:07:18,465 --> 00:07:19,840 This is a really good point, Sky, 102 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,880 and I appreciate you bringing it up. 103 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,740 50 centimorgan distance means it's just equally probable. 104 00:07:24,740 --> 00:07:25,990 This is 50% recombination. 105 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:27,590 So it's random chance. 106 00:07:27,590 --> 00:07:32,440 So the reality is that in most of the systems that we use, 107 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,440 the connections really start breaking down 108 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,920 at even much lower, 30 centimorgans, where we're just 109 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,070 seeing a very high rate of double recombination that 110 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:45,160 is making us systematically underestimate 111 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,120 genetic distances. 112 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,910 And so even yeast recombination breaks down at 50 centimorgans. 113 00:07:49,910 --> 00:07:52,930 So regardless how robust the systems are, 114 00:07:52,930 --> 00:07:55,330 the reality is, in yeast, it's very accurate 115 00:07:55,330 --> 00:07:58,210 up until greater than 40 centimorgans. 116 00:07:58,210 --> 00:08:03,430 And in people or in flies, it's not 117 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:05,080 accurate at 40 centimorgans. 118 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:11,430 So this distance-- you are right in that the absolute bar, 119 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:17,420 the absolute barrier here is 50 centimorgans. 120 00:08:17,420 --> 00:08:18,680 That is correct. 121 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,250 But if we think about a point below there, 122 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:26,290 say 40 centimorgans it's already broken down 123 00:08:26,290 --> 00:08:29,390 if you look at random gametes, and it's still 124 00:08:29,390 --> 00:08:31,780 a pretty good correlation between physical distance 125 00:08:31,780 --> 00:08:34,990 and genetic distance if you're looking at yeast tetrad 126 00:08:34,990 --> 00:08:35,679 analysis. 127 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,500 128 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:41,140 Again, I think that the reason why 129 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:42,760 we talk about this, and the reason 130 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 why we introduced this idea is that it's an interesting way 131 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,470 to think about the way that meiosis occurs and introduces 132 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:53,950 the possibility of what you could see if you could actually 133 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:55,750 follow all of those recombination events 134 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:58,330 and see all of the haploids that are generated 135 00:08:58,330 --> 00:09:00,700 from this double recombination event. 136 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:04,000 And so it's why I think a lot of initial genetics work 137 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,500 and really significant genetics work 138 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:08,650 has been done in systems like yeast that allow us to study 139 00:09:08,650 --> 00:09:11,640 recombination really well. 10747

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