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I love being in the military.
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I love wearing the uniform. I'm proud to wear the uniform.
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I'd have never in a million years...
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imagined that I would be going to jail.
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After the first murder,
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everything that I believed in in the army was gone.
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People in my platoon, they just changed.
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Something in them changed.
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This was the platoon from hell.
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Accused of shocking crimes...
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that include murdering Afghans for sport.
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At the time, what was
going on around us didn't--
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It wasn't far-fetched.
It wasn't bizarre.
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It was just, like,
"All right. Sure." You know?
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"This is okay."
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Soldiers allegedly formed a Kill Team,
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mutilating corpses, taking pot shots at Afghan civilians.
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Right now, if you
handed me a human finger,
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it would--
it would scare me.
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But over there, it's--
it's combat, man.
It happens.
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Unarmed Afghan civilians...
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picked out, stood up, shot and then blown up.
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I was so dead set
on just avoiding this,
staying out of it.
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I never wanted
to kill anyone ever.
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Specialist Adam Winfield's father, Chris, warned the army,
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but tragically army officials refused to investigate.
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His son now charged in the third killing...
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that took place three months later.
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Is your son a whistle-blower or a murderer?
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He's a whistle-blower.
He-- He tried.
The army didn't listen.
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When we first heard that Adam was brought in...
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and we felt like he was safe,
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the army told us everything was gonna be okay.
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But as soon as he stepped off the airplane,
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they arrested him for murder.
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We don't-- We don't know what's going on.
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We don't know how this has occurred.
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We-- We know that months ago,
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he tried to tell people what was going on...
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and now suddenly he's being charged...
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with the same crimes that he reported.
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Left.
Left, right.
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The army says they want
to move this case,
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but yet every action
that they've taken beguiles
that very notion.
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I mean, we were supposed
to be going to trial,
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and they're just now
coming to the table...
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with new evidence they've
discovered? Bullshit.
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Okay?
It's just bullshit.
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So my eye is
toward getting--
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I've been confined...
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367 days.
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They are trying to get me...
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for premeditated murder
in the first degree, which is...
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a mandatory minimum sentence of life.
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So I'm depressed
constantly, constantly,
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and my anxiety is at levels
that I've never
experienced before.
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- Same guy, right?
- Yup.
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Same situation.
Same guy as this guy.
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Same guy as this guy.
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So, the army's evidence--
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At one point in time, overseas,
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the people in my platoon and my squad leader were murdering people.
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Are they trying to say
this is the victim?
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Well, then they come along...
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and then they say
that this is the victim.
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It was, like, I can
make a stand out here...
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and risk my life,
or I can just...
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try to stay out of it as best as I can.
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You know.
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Unfortunately, it didn't pan out that way.
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♪ And ripped them away ♪
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♪ She was queen
for about an hour ♪
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♪ After that, shit got sour ♪♪
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As infantrymen,
your entire existence
is like a series of tests.
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Are you man enough?
Are you tough enough?
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Uh, you know, can
you pull the trigger?
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Can you kill?
Can you survive?
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Our brigade commander described it before we left.
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"Afghanistan is
a warrior's paradise."
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My first firefight-- We were just getting ready...
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to walk into this village
through the wall...
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and then bullets are
flying right over your head.
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I mean, hitting the trees
right behind you.
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And the first thing
that came to my mind...
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when that was, was
"Danger Zone" from Top Gun.
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It was intense.
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You know, it was--
it was really cool.
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You can hear
the firefight going on
right down the way...
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and we've got helicopters
and fast movers
and, uh, explosions.
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All the bullshit
paid off right there.
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I mean, all the--
all the rock marchin'...
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and the dumb shit,
it was all worth it.
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I mean, I don't know
if it was the adrenaline
or what it was,
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but to finally be able
to start and do your job
for real was, like,
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"All right.
Right on. This is cool."
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Like, a couple guys--
like, we were laughing
our asses off...
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the first time we started
getting shot at.
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You get the reason
why you wanted to join...
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for all of, you know,
10 minutes--
10, 15 minutes,
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but then it's just back
to the grind, you know?
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Hating life.
Just suckin'.
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This is boring as fuck.
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So, uh...
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here we are.
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Middle of nowhere, Afghanistan.
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Uh, been out here
about three days now.
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This sucks a lot.
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I expected climbing mountains
and firefights every day...
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and staying out
for days at a time.
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It really wasn't
anything like that.
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You drive out to a village,
find the local elder,
mullah, whatever,
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and the L.T. asks him
some questions,
and then you drive back.
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Ooh, look.
There's an I.E.D.
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- One-two.
- One-two, you okay?
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What the hell we were, you know,
risking our fuckin' necks for...
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driving across the desert,
waiting for a buddy
to get blown up...
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just to go ask some old dude
some questions.
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Like, for what? You know?
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Patrolling the streets of--
Where are we?
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We are in
Tabin-eh Bulya.
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Tabin-eh--
Whatever.
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- Yeah.
- We're in Afghanistan.
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Great place.
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Lots of, uh,
friendly people here
wanting to kill us.
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Our biggest fear
is stepping on land mines.
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Yeah. Look
at the ground.
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Or pressure plates.
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We gotta walk
around all day.
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Making sure we don't
hit any I.E.D.s.
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We've been training to do one thing all this time,
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counterguerilla stuff.
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And, you know, being a warrior and going kicking ass.
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And then you get there, and we're forced to go and help them...
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and build them a well, a school or whatever.
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To do any offensive operation,
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you needed the top fuckin'
signature from, you know,
whoever--
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big dog general
or President Karzai himself.
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You can't shoot somebody
because of this reason.
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You can't do it
because of that reason.
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They blow you up
and you see them driving away...
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It was nothing like what
everybody hyped it to be.
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And part of that's probably why,
you know, things happened.
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There are certain facts
that are not in dispute.
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You have dead guy.
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Two people within 15-20 meters
pointing their gun at this guy,
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unarmed civilian, and he's dead.
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Why is that?
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So, we've got to walk
a fairly close line...
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with the moral piece on this,
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because he's not
totally clean-gloved.
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I guess I'm looking at it
from a different perspective.
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To somebody who's looking
at it in a vacuum,
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they've got to decide,
is it more likely than not,
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or beyond all reasonable doubt,
that this guy,
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on that day, knew
what was about to happen
and participated willingly.
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And it sounds like he did
under one version of the story.
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It's plausible.
It's possible.
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Adam was there.
He discharged his weapon.
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There are a lot of witnesses
that will corroborate that.
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The only-- The only
distinction is:
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What was in his brain
at that moment.
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Was he a willing
participant or not?
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We're doing a battalion push on this village.
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And, I mean, it wasn't even 30 minutes in.
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Pulled up to town. Our squad leader hit an I.E.D.
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And, uh, I think
severed his left leg.
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I only got to see him
in the hospital...
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before they flew him to Germany,
and he was heavily sedated.
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He had his eyes closed
and we went up
and we just said,
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"We apologize.
We couldn't have
been there, man.
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You know, you're
a brother to us
and we love you."
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Hey, you fuckin' move.
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After that, we were down a guy.
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We needed a new squad leader.
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And then, it was a couple of weeks later, I guess,
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that's when Gibbs showed up.
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We'd been in country a while.
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You've been training
with each other for years
and you get a new guy.
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You're like, "All right.
Who the fuck's this guy?"
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I mean, you see him, you're, like, "All right. Well, that's--
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that's the mold of an infantryman right there."
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If the government was gonna...
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push 'em out
on an assembly line,
that would be the guy.
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He was an infantry vet already.
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He'd already been in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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He wasn't afraid to change the tactics.
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Bring the fight to us
versus going looking for one
that didn't exist.
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Other squad leaders follow the rules to a "T."
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Gibbs was a much different story.
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Odds are, you work for him,
you're probably gonna
come back in one piece.
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Or you could work for the guy
who follows the rules
and get your ass blown up.
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He never talked to me
about what he did in Iraq.
I did see his tattoos.
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He was sittin' there, workin' out...
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and I was, like, "Skulls." You know.
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"That's cool.
What does it mean?"
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I didn't get
an answer from him,
but I asked someone else.
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They're, like, "Oh.
Those are the dudes
he's killed."
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People outside this room...
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are not our friends,
not one.
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We have to protect the zone.
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Nobody gets in the zone.
Nobody comes in this room.
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We don't talk to anybody.
They-- They--
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Nothing. Okay?
They are on lockdown.
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It is a military justice system.
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Unlike the civilian world where
there are impartial parties,
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the people that are accusing Adam of these very crimes are,
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in essence, the same people
that determine...
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who will hear the case,
who will be the jury...
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and who will hand down
the decision for sentencing.
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They are the judge and jury.
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Literally, judge and jury.
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So, talking to any of them,
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even if they have
a smile on their face,
means absolutely nothing.
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They're all the enemy.
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And so we go into every meeting,
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knowing that we're fighting for his life.
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Me and Gibbs spent a lot of time together...
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on the same truck for those first couple weeks.
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We were just getting to know each other and shooting the shit.
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"Hey, what was your last deployment like?"
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He spoke specifically about one incident I remember.
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Uh, when he was in Iraq,
he was a SAW gunner.
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And, um, he was crossing a road.
I don't know.
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And, um, a car was coming
at him, didn't stop,
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so he opened up on the car,
and it ended up being a family.
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I think, a mother, father
and a small child was killed.
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He could have stopped
the vehicle...
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or let them go by
and nothing would have
came of it,
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but he described it to me
as, like, he was looking...
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for that opportunity
for a while and had been.
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'Cause that could have been
something very easily
turned around and justified.
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You could easily
justify that situation.
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They were charging.
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There was no one there
to see anything different.
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He was, like, "Yeah, dude.
I just said this
and it was cool.
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No one questioned it.
You know, it was that easy."
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So, that was,
like, the first step,
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which ultimately ended up
leading into our own
conversations...
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about how we could maybe
implement things
in that sort of same way.
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The first conversation was-- It was based around the idea of a drop weapon.
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I've always heard
about people, you know,
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in Iraq or Afghanistan
or whatnot,
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when you find a weapon,
you know, you hold onto it
in case you need it.
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In case, you know,
some, you know--
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A civilian gets hit
and you need
to drop it on 'em,
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so they're not, you know,
they don't look innocent.
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During one
of our smoke sessions,
Morlock brought up the fact...
248
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that he could get easy kills
by, uh, setting people up.
249
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He said he'd been talking...
250
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with Sergeant Gibbs,
and he was telling him
how he could get a kill.
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Just buy a hand grenade
off the books.
That's all you need.
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The idea he kind of pitched me
was, like, "Well, hey, dude.
253
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I've got a couple extra grenades
that aren't being tracked."
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So, the idea, we could say, was
we were approached by a local--
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a bad guy, was what
we'll call him--
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and he approached us, we--
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He either threw
the grenade at us...
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or we noticed the grenade
in his hand...
259
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and we detonate the grenade
to make it look...
260
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like this guy was attacking us
and we had to take him out.
261
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Who in their right mind's...
262
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gonna think
that we made this up?
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If we-- I mean, it's
a believable enough
situation to where--
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Who's gonna question it?
You know what I mean?
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So, you're just,
like, "Well, you're right.
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Doesn't sound--
Yeah. We could pull that off."
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On our minds, we'd
been here for months.
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And nobody's innocent
because these guys...
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either know the Taliban, they're
either working with them--
270
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and they're not working with,
or for us,
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and we're here to help 'em,
and they don't give us any help.
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We're just getting blown up
every time we go out there...
273
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to, you know, just
to talk with them...
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or build them a well,
so fuck 'em.
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Ever since I made...
276
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my first statement,
it's just been fear
of the guys from my platoon.
277
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I get nightmares about that
even, just them hunting me.
278
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And it's always
back over there, too.
279
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It's back
in the theater.
280
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It's not--
It's never in the States.
281
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It's always--
I'm always over there.
282
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In the last year,
I felt kind of...
283
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as the enemy of the platoon,
because I was one of the few
to come clean and--
284
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And do you die
in these nightmares?
285
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You do?Mm-hmm.
286
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How do they kill you?
287
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They blow me up,
mostly.
288
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Normally, it involves
a grenade.
289
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Couple times, it's been,
like, blunt objects.
290
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And it's just not ever even
have a chance to run from 'em.
291
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It's just--
They always catch me.
292
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You know, I've said
some incriminating things
about some of these guys...
293
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and, you know, it's not
hard for me to believe...
294
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that they would want some sort of retribution.
295
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And that's the worst part about it.
296
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The same people that I was--
297
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been in fear of the last year
are also the same people...
298
00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:38,433
that, you know,
I've lived with
the last four years.
299
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These people were my friends and, at some point in time,
300
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they were also willing to lay their life down for me.
301
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And I, you know,
I have to remember that.
302
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In La'l Mohammad Kalay,
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there was an incident with a grenade...
304
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That day, you know,
we had our high-ups...
305
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on the top of the hill
talking to the village elder.
306
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Myself and, uh, Holmes
found ourself...
307
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kind of secluded
from the majority
of the platoon.
308
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I was, like, "Hey, man.
Let's see if we can get
one of those guys over there.
309
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There's a guy farming a field."
310
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We talked about specifics.
311
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What was gonna happen.
312
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"Hey, this guy was
coming towards us.
We told him to stop.
313
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He didn't listen
to our commands.
314
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Holmes identified
something in his hand.
He thought it was a grenade.
315
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Threw something at us,
and so we engaged him...
316
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and took cover
behind the wall."
317
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And that's what we talked about.
318
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I'm standing back up,
getting ready
to look back over,
319
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and I have, you know, Morlock
scream in my ear, "Grenade!
Holmes, shoot him!"
320
00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:29,933
Pulled the grenade,
dropped it, got down.
321
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Yelled at Holmes, "Fire."
Which, you know, seemed
like a fuckin' eternity.
322
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I had five seconds from
the time that pin falls
off from the grenade...
323
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until it will explode.
324
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He let off a burst
from the SAW.
325
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I pulled his ass down.
Grenade goes off.
326
00:19:42,633 --> 00:19:45,400
A lot of confusion,
a lot of dust
come up, you know.
327
00:19:45,466 --> 00:19:48,433
I looked over
to my left, 'cause that's
where Morlock was.
328
00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:50,100
He had his back
against the wall.
329
00:19:50,166 --> 00:19:51,633
He has his radio
and he's yelling.
330
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Um, he was telling everyone,
"Contact. Contact. Contact."
331
00:19:54,833 --> 00:19:59,500
I just heard, "Contact,"
and thought we got contact.
332
00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:01,433
Then, as soon as I heard
the description...
333
00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,800
of what happened,
it all clicked.
334
00:20:03,866 --> 00:20:05,733
What that--
He just said...
335
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,400
that someone tried to throw
a hand grenade...
336
00:20:07,466 --> 00:20:09,600
at him and Holmes
and they shot him.
337
00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:12,566
And that was
the same scenario
he explained to me.
338
00:20:12,633 --> 00:20:15,533
And I look over and I ask him,
you know, "Do we reengage?"
339
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,233
Do we get back up and, you know,
shoot the guy or whatnot?
340
00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:20,900
And, uh, Morlock
didn't answer me.
341
00:20:20,966 --> 00:20:24,333
He just stood back up,
looked over at the guy
who was on the ground,
342
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,300
you know, pulled up his M4
and just pop, pop,
two more shots.
343
00:20:30,133 --> 00:20:31,600
He didn't register as a person.
344
00:20:31,666 --> 00:20:35,233
He wasn't-- He was just, you know, there.
345
00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:41,600
I was excited.
Me and Holmes
both kinda were.
346
00:20:41,666 --> 00:20:45,366
I mean, like he said,
it plays that whole...
347
00:20:45,433 --> 00:20:48,033
you know, ideology
of the infantry world.
348
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,933
It was just like,
"Fuck. Right on, man."
349
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,433
We got a kill, whether,
you know, it was--
350
00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:54,300
we knew he was
a bad guy or not.
351
00:20:54,366 --> 00:20:56,466
So they brought
the father down,
the brother down.
352
00:20:56,533 --> 00:20:58,800
They said, "Well,
do you know this guy?"
353
00:20:58,866 --> 00:21:00,600
The guy goes,
"Yeah. That's my son."
354
00:21:01,933 --> 00:21:04,466
And, uh, the brother's
sitting there...
355
00:21:04,533 --> 00:21:07,766
and they just-- they're both
just crying. You know.
356
00:21:09,433 --> 00:21:12,500
We then put him
in a black body bag...
357
00:21:12,566 --> 00:21:16,266
and took him
to the top of the village.
358
00:21:16,333 --> 00:21:19,466
And strapped him down to the
front of one of the Strykers...
359
00:21:19,533 --> 00:21:22,300
and we took him back
to the-- to the FOB.
360
00:21:22,366 --> 00:21:23,900
Jumped back in the truck.
361
00:21:23,966 --> 00:21:28,566
You know, we're all
hyped up on all this
freakin' adrenaline...
362
00:21:28,633 --> 00:21:30,433
and just not knowing
what's gonna happen next.
363
00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:35,433
And we get back to the FOB
and, you know, it was--
364
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:37,966
it was like I was
looked upon like a--
like a hero.
365
00:21:38,033 --> 00:21:40,666
They were gettin'
all the applause.
366
00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:44,333
Everybody was, you know, giving
'em high fives and handshakes...
367
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,366
and, you know, telling 'em
they're, you know, made men...
368
00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:52,000
and, you know, they're
the-- everyone needs
to look up to them.
369
00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:53,800
And, you know,
I knew differently.
370
00:21:53,866 --> 00:21:58,100
And everybody else
knew differently too,
but it was accepted.
371
00:21:58,166 --> 00:22:01,300
Anybody with half a brain
can go,
372
00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:06,600
"Okay. You guys set this guy up
to get shot. Whatever."
373
00:22:07,833 --> 00:22:09,333
I didn't care.
374
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,133
And I remember we were
smokin', we were high.
375
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,466
And Morlock's like,
"Man. You know, we straight
murdered that dude."
376
00:22:26,933 --> 00:22:28,466
- Hello?
Hello.
377
00:22:28,533 --> 00:22:30,300
This call is from a collection facility...
378
00:22:30,366 --> 00:22:31,966
and is subject to monitoring and recording.
379
00:22:32,033 --> 00:22:33,900
Hey.
380
00:22:33,966 --> 00:22:35,900
- Hey. How you doing?
- All right.
381
00:22:35,966 --> 00:22:37,666
- How was your day?
- It was okay.
382
00:22:37,733 --> 00:22:39,166
Was it?
What'd you do today?
383
00:22:39,233 --> 00:22:40,766
Anything? Did you get
to go outside at all?
384
00:22:40,833 --> 00:22:44,733
- Got back from rec.
- Did you? That's good.
385
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,933
We're probably thinking of Mom coming out next Friday.
386
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,466
- What's the point?
- What do you mean,
what's the point?
387
00:22:52,533 --> 00:22:54,166
I'm not getting out.
388
00:22:54,233 --> 00:22:58,233
Adam, don't start losing faith now.
389
00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:00,766
I mean, I know that you're there day to day,
390
00:23:00,833 --> 00:23:03,733
but, believe me, my heart breaks every day too.
391
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,333
I know.
392
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,400
And maybe I'm not confined, but I am confined.
393
00:23:16,066 --> 00:23:18,366
When I joined the Marine Corps, it was peacetime.
394
00:23:18,433 --> 00:23:20,400
It was-- It was completely different.
395
00:23:20,466 --> 00:23:22,033
When Adam came home and said he wanted...
396
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:25,100
to join the service, we were in war.
397
00:23:25,166 --> 00:23:29,200
I had a couple long talks with Adam about that.
398
00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:30,866
You know, he had
pretty much told us...
399
00:23:30,933 --> 00:23:33,733
that, you know,
"I want your permission,
400
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,833
but, you know, when I turn 18,
I'm gonna sign up anyway."
401
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,433
If we made him wait
until he was 18,
402
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,700
there was always
gonna be that...
403
00:23:40,766 --> 00:23:43,700
"they didn't believe in me
and they didn't think
I could do this."
404
00:23:43,766 --> 00:23:47,233
And I didn't ever
want Adam to feel like
we didn't believe in him.
405
00:23:51,166 --> 00:23:53,266
When we flew out there
and he said,
406
00:23:53,333 --> 00:23:55,700
"This is it.
I'm going to Afghanistan."
407
00:23:57,833 --> 00:23:59,733
I told him, "Don't be a hero.
408
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,466
Just do your job and come home."
409
00:24:23,366 --> 00:24:25,500
Gibbs, like, a couple hours
after we got back,
410
00:24:25,566 --> 00:24:27,133
is like, "Hey, Holmes,
come check this out."
411
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,433
So, I walked in the tent
back to his room...
412
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:32,333
and he pulls out
a little piece of cloth
inside of a bag...
413
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,266
and he pulls out a finger...
414
00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:36,166
and he's like, "This
is from your guy."
415
00:24:36,233 --> 00:24:37,766
His idea behind it was...
416
00:24:37,833 --> 00:24:40,466
he was gonna take the fingers and then let them decompose...
417
00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:43,566
and then take the bone
and make a finger bone
necklace out of it.
418
00:24:43,633 --> 00:24:45,700
And you're, yeah,
well, fuck, lookin' at it,
419
00:24:45,766 --> 00:24:47,566
it's like, "All right. That's
pretty fuckin' crazy, dude."
420
00:24:47,633 --> 00:24:50,433
But, at the same time,
like, our mind-sets...
421
00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,600
are not on the normal level
of everybody else's...
422
00:24:52,666 --> 00:24:54,200
and so it was just like--
423
00:24:54,266 --> 00:24:57,766
I mean, war trophies have been,
you know, since the Bible.
424
00:24:57,833 --> 00:25:00,833
They cut Solomon's head off.
You know what I mean?
So, it's just like--
425
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:03,333
Then we're there,
and you're seeing bluts
and gore all the time.
426
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,200
It's war, and you're
just like, "All right.
Well, whatever."
427
00:25:05,266 --> 00:25:07,033
I'm not gonna make
a fuckin' bone necklace,
428
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:08,500
but if you want one, man,
whatever.
429
00:25:08,566 --> 00:25:10,333
That's cool.
It's your thing. Go for it.
430
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,966
I just thought, "What happened to these guys?
431
00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:15,366
What happened to the guys that I knew?
432
00:25:16,266 --> 00:25:18,166
Why are they all
okay with this?
433
00:25:18,233 --> 00:25:20,133
Why isn't anyone
stepping up?
434
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,600
Like, why am I the only one
that's not okay with this?
435
00:25:26,666 --> 00:25:28,666
Why is it just me?"
436
00:26:44,366 --> 00:26:48,166
Adam had to actually tell me
in the Facebook chat,
437
00:26:48,233 --> 00:26:51,100
"Don't you understand
what I'm saying?
438
00:26:51,166 --> 00:26:53,466
That they're
killing people here...
439
00:26:53,533 --> 00:26:56,766
that are innocent."
440
00:26:56,833 --> 00:27:00,466
I had to do a double take
and it just was like, "Whew."
441
00:27:04,733 --> 00:27:12,300
It was, like, uh, a rush
just came over me. Just--
442
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,900
The only thing
I could think of was...
443
00:27:26,966 --> 00:27:28,900
he was, like,
8,000 miles away...
444
00:27:28,966 --> 00:27:30,733
and there was nothing
I could do.
445
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,200
I couldn't take any more.
446
00:28:28,266 --> 00:28:32,000
I wanted to tell somebody what was going on.
447
00:28:32,066 --> 00:28:35,600
I didn't have access to the M.P.s.
448
00:28:35,666 --> 00:28:37,166
If I told someone...
449
00:28:37,233 --> 00:28:39,700
in the chain of command,
it would come right back,
450
00:28:39,766 --> 00:28:42,200
'cause that's how things
are in the infantry.
451
00:28:42,266 --> 00:28:44,733
We tend to handle things
in house.
452
00:28:47,366 --> 00:28:50,400
I felt like I had nowhere to go in the platoon.
453
00:28:50,466 --> 00:28:55,233
Everybody was on Sergeant Gibbs' side, and he had their loyalty.
454
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:59,400
So, it's my word
against 30 other guys.
455
00:29:02,433 --> 00:29:04,033
Someone had told us
that Winfield...
456
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,800
was gonna go out
and talk to the chaplain...
457
00:29:05,866 --> 00:29:08,000
'cause he was
having, uh, issues.
458
00:29:08,066 --> 00:29:10,166
I can tell the chaplain.
He's not gonna fail me.
459
00:29:10,233 --> 00:29:12,400
He's the chaplain.
460
00:29:12,466 --> 00:29:15,133
And, uh, before I went
over there...
461
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,666
to talk to the chaplain,
Sergeant Gibbs escorted me.
462
00:29:19,933 --> 00:29:21,466
As we're walking down there, he says,
463
00:29:21,533 --> 00:29:23,300
"You're not thinking about saying anything...
464
00:29:23,366 --> 00:29:25,300
that you shouldn't be talking about, are you?"
465
00:29:25,366 --> 00:29:26,833
So, Gibbs-- I don't even know...
466
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,366
when it took place.
467
00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:30,100
You know, brought up
the idea, kinda like,
468
00:29:30,166 --> 00:29:31,766
"Hey. man, Winfield
might be a liability.
469
00:29:31,833 --> 00:29:33,600
I might have
to take that guy out."
470
00:29:33,666 --> 00:29:35,666
I go, "What the fuck
you talkin' about, man?"
471
00:29:35,733 --> 00:29:38,400
He says, "Well, you know,
he knows a lot of stuff...
472
00:29:38,466 --> 00:29:40,266
about what's going on
and what we've done...
473
00:29:40,333 --> 00:29:42,833
and, you know,
it's too easy."
474
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,200
"What are you--
What do you mean,
it's too easy?"
475
00:29:45,266 --> 00:29:46,800
And he says we could--
476
00:29:46,866 --> 00:29:50,700
We could take him
to the gym, drop
a weight on his head.
477
00:29:50,766 --> 00:29:54,000
We can drop
a tow bar on him,
so he'll go away.
478
00:30:13,533 --> 00:30:15,933
I asked Morlock
about it a few times.
479
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,866
"Hey, man, what's going on?
Are you guys plottin'
on me or something?"
480
00:30:19,933 --> 00:30:22,600
And he even told me
straight up, "Yeah.
481
00:30:22,666 --> 00:30:24,966
You know, we're
thinkin' about doing
something to you.
482
00:30:25,033 --> 00:30:29,500
Don't know what,
but something, definitely."
483
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,933
Okay. So you got
safety on on white.
484
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,466
Mm-hmm.
485
00:30:37,533 --> 00:30:39,866
Flip it up to red.
You're ready to go.
486
00:30:39,933 --> 00:30:41,433
Mm-hmm.Okay?
487
00:30:56,733 --> 00:31:00,500
You know, this has become a big story in the press...
488
00:31:00,566 --> 00:31:03,600
and we had people standing at our front door with cameras.
489
00:31:03,666 --> 00:31:06,100
We had people following us everywhere I went.
490
00:31:06,166 --> 00:31:09,433
You get people that think the worst of everything...
491
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,333
and they, you know, they hear,
492
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,733
"Oh, he's arrested for murder, then he must be guilty."
493
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,333
Three.
494
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,166
How many can you
put in there?Eleven.
495
00:31:17,233 --> 00:31:19,966
We have had some threats.
496
00:31:20,033 --> 00:31:21,500
I mean, not in so many words,
497
00:31:21,566 --> 00:31:23,300
but, you know, you can read between the lines...
498
00:31:23,366 --> 00:31:26,100
that "we know where you live, we know your address."
499
00:31:26,166 --> 00:31:29,166
And I have to protect my family.
500
00:31:29,233 --> 00:31:31,733
It's a 9mm Ruger.
501
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,433
I have it sitting by the bedside, loaded and ready to go.
502
00:31:36,766 --> 00:31:39,333
We don't want to be caught with our guard down.
503
00:32:17,533 --> 00:32:21,700
So, I started
making phone calls.
I didn't know who to call.
504
00:32:21,766 --> 00:32:25,966
I was getting voice mail
everywhere I called,
for the most part.
505
00:32:26,033 --> 00:32:28,000
Um, and I was
leaving messages,
506
00:32:28,066 --> 00:32:29,666
hoping somebody
would call me back.
507
00:32:29,733 --> 00:32:32,300
I thought about, you know,
what I would have to do...
508
00:32:32,366 --> 00:32:34,566
if they came after me
in the middle of the night.
509
00:32:35,566 --> 00:32:37,966
I kept a gun always
around me...
510
00:32:38,033 --> 00:32:41,366
and, you know,
a knife on me handy
and stuff like that...
511
00:32:41,433 --> 00:32:43,666
and always looked
over my shoulder
all the time.
512
00:32:43,733 --> 00:32:47,066
I was frantic.
I was just--
I was just panicking.
513
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,233
I was loud.
I was, "Please
call me back."
514
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:50,966
I mean, there was
stress in my voice,
515
00:32:51,033 --> 00:32:54,400
and I-- and, you know,
I was just-- I did not--
516
00:32:54,466 --> 00:32:56,633
I was scrambling.
I didn't know who to call.
517
00:32:56,700 --> 00:33:00,833
Gibbs seemed like he was
recruiting more people...
518
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,666
to this Kill Team idea,
basically.
519
00:33:03,733 --> 00:33:06,200
I, you know, I see
other squad leaders,
other soldiers...
520
00:33:06,266 --> 00:33:07,866
going up
to Sergeant Gibbs,
521
00:33:07,933 --> 00:33:09,500
"Hey, man, you gotta
get me a kill.
522
00:33:09,566 --> 00:33:11,200
You gotta help me
get something."
523
00:33:11,266 --> 00:33:13,000
And he'd be, like,
"Just tell me when."
524
00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:16,500
I called the army.
Called the army hotline.
525
00:33:16,566 --> 00:33:20,266
I called, um, Army C.I.D.
in Virginia,
526
00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:22,000
the main C.I.D. office.
527
00:33:22,066 --> 00:33:23,733
I called the C.I.D.
office in Fort--
528
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,966
I kept calling,
I kept calling,
I kept calling numbers.
529
00:33:26,033 --> 00:33:27,433
I called Senator
Bill Nelson's office.
530
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,100
Figured somebody would
definitely be there...
531
00:33:29,166 --> 00:33:30,633
at the army chaplain's
office at Fort Lewis.
532
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,100
Chaplain and the assistant
chaplain. I called both,
got messages,
533
00:33:33,166 --> 00:33:35,466
voice messages
on both of 'em.
534
00:33:35,533 --> 00:33:37,433
Sergeant Gibbs,
the whole time, he
was talking shit to me,
535
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:39,833
calling me a pussy
and this and that.
536
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:43,466
Saying, you know,
I should be down to kill.
They're all savages.
537
00:33:43,533 --> 00:33:45,133
And, you know,
they're pieces of shit.
538
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,666
They're not worth anything.
539
00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:48,566
And that was just
everyone's attitude, really.
540
00:33:48,633 --> 00:33:51,100
I finally got a hold
of somebody at Fort Lewis...
541
00:33:51,166 --> 00:33:53,500
at the-- at the--
at the Command Center...
542
00:33:53,566 --> 00:33:56,233
and I told the guy
the whole story.
543
00:33:57,266 --> 00:33:59,366
The guy said, "Nothin'
I can do about it.
544
00:33:59,433 --> 00:34:01,566
It's your son's word
against everybody else's.
545
00:34:01,633 --> 00:34:03,933
Unless somebody else comes out
and says the same story,
546
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,433
then I can't do anything."
547
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:08,300
And I expected,
within a few days,
548
00:34:08,366 --> 00:34:10,533
someone to just come grab me
in the middle of the night...
549
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,666
and say, "Hey. Come with us.
It's over. You're safe."
550
00:34:14,733 --> 00:34:16,333
And then it never happened.
551
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,533
This is another option
on the table.
552
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,400
I think this is the realest
and most truest option.
553
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:31,400
There's been talk of a plea deal.
554
00:34:31,466 --> 00:34:34,866
My lawyer is trying to talk the charge down.
555
00:34:34,933 --> 00:34:36,400
That it's not--
556
00:34:36,466 --> 00:34:38,300
That I'm not guilty
of first-degree murder.
557
00:34:38,366 --> 00:34:42,066
Don't get visceral on me,
just hear
what I'm saying. Okay?
558
00:34:42,133 --> 00:34:45,366
Cowardly conduct.
Okay?
559
00:34:45,433 --> 00:34:48,800
"That the accused committed
an act of cowardice." Okay?
560
00:34:48,866 --> 00:34:53,400
In this scenario,
you didn't stop them
from doing something bad.
561
00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:55,733
Mm-hmm.Okay? 'Cause you
were scared.
562
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,866
"Conduct is cowardly only
if it amounts to misbehavior...
563
00:34:59,933 --> 00:35:01,366
which was motivated
by fear.
564
00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,733
A mere display of apprehension
is not sufficient.
565
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,266
Cowardly conduct is
the refusal or abandonment...
566
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:09,000
of the performance of duty
before or in the presence...
567
00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:12,333
of the enemy
as a result of fear." Okay?
568
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,833
Well, the enemy in this case
was not only the Taliban man,
but it was also Gibbs.
569
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:21,600
I mean, the guy was continuing
to threaten to kill you.
570
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:26,800
What's the--
What are you looking at?
571
00:35:26,866 --> 00:35:30,566
I mean, I get the misbehavior
before the enemy,
cowardly conduct charge.
572
00:35:30,633 --> 00:35:32,133
Mm-hmm.
573
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,666
What are you looking for
as the cap to--
574
00:35:34,733 --> 00:35:36,433
Eight years.
575
00:35:57,166 --> 00:35:59,800
Time went on
and the second
murder happened,
576
00:35:59,866 --> 00:36:03,866
which, at first,
I didn't even know
it was a murder again.
577
00:36:03,933 --> 00:36:06,033
I thought this was
a real engagement.
578
00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:09,100
I heard Morlock and Sergeant Gibbs...
579
00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:10,866
joking and talking about it.
580
00:36:10,933 --> 00:36:13,933
And I found out what really happened.
581
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,866
Set up a kill with an AK. Shot a dude, just, you know, in cold blood.
582
00:36:18,933 --> 00:36:23,133
Dropped the AK next to him and said it was a legit shoot.
583
00:36:27,533 --> 00:36:30,200
It seemed like everything
was falling apart...
584
00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:32,266
just from the seams.
585
00:36:32,333 --> 00:36:38,533
My whole unit, my whole,
just, concept of...
586
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,766
the military and honor
and integrity...
587
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:45,900
and just, you know,
the image you get
from a soldier,
588
00:36:45,966 --> 00:36:48,300
what you would expect
a soldier to be.
589
00:36:48,366 --> 00:36:51,266
About to show you
what Apaches do...
590
00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:54,066
to fuckin' bodies.
All right?
591
00:36:59,366 --> 00:37:02,266
It's a good shoot.
He's dead as a motherfucker.
592
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,100
Word.Don't show 'em
that shit, man.
593
00:37:10,233 --> 00:37:11,800
Everybody had their own cameras.
594
00:37:11,866 --> 00:37:14,500
Take a picture of your little combat experience. Sure. Why the hell not?
595
00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:17,600
You sit down with all
your squad leaders and,
you know, other guys...
596
00:37:17,666 --> 00:37:20,800
and they all bust out
their DVDs and discs
of their prior deployments,
597
00:37:20,866 --> 00:37:23,633
and, you know, "Hey, look
at these dead guys
we killed here."
598
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,300
Death and dead bodies...
599
00:37:26,366 --> 00:37:28,733
and bluts and gore,
and, you know, that thing--
600
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,733
You get taught to be the norm
and be okay with it.
601
00:38:12,733 --> 00:38:14,466
It was just that I was
pissed at everything.
602
00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:18,266
I was pissed at the whole
situation. Just--
603
00:38:18,333 --> 00:38:21,600
What is-- Just--
What's the point
of all this?
604
00:38:25,166 --> 00:38:26,866
And the thing that really got me was,
605
00:38:26,933 --> 00:38:29,633
from other stories I've heard from people from other units,
606
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:31,733
I knew that this stuff happens more than--
607
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,266
Well, I knew that it was...
608
00:38:33,333 --> 00:38:36,500
happening really
more than people
were letting on.
609
00:39:05,966 --> 00:39:09,466
If I were to do it
all over again, I would
probably have kept calling,
610
00:39:09,533 --> 00:39:13,000
but it's easy to say that
now as I'm sitting here.
611
00:39:13,066 --> 00:39:16,166
At the time, I was
just worried what is--
612
00:39:16,233 --> 00:39:20,300
If I continue to do this,
am I gonna get my son killed?
613
00:39:20,366 --> 00:39:22,966
It was-- It was probably
the most difficult decision...
614
00:39:23,033 --> 00:39:25,033
I have ever had to make
in my life.
615
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,200
You know, he only had
a couple more months...
616
00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:30,766
and he would be home,
and we would report it...
617
00:39:30,833 --> 00:39:34,300
and he would be safe.
618
00:39:34,366 --> 00:39:36,666
And it just didn't
turn out that way.
619
00:39:46,966 --> 00:39:49,633
Adam used to go in my closet and put on my uniform on.
620
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,600
He would always look through my Marine Corps books.
621
00:39:52,666 --> 00:39:54,400
Essentials of a Marine.
622
00:39:54,466 --> 00:39:56,400
Adam probably
read that book 50 times.
623
00:39:58,266 --> 00:40:02,666
Before he was supposed to ship off to boot camp, he was about 100 pounds.
624
00:40:02,733 --> 00:40:04,266
He was too light, so...
625
00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:07,133
they picked up a gallon of water
before they went in there...
626
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,266
and they made him drink it
and said, "Don't pee
until you get weighed."
627
00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:12,700
So I just kind of stepped
on the scale real fast...
628
00:40:12,766 --> 00:40:16,033
and got off
and went to the bathroom
and threw it up.
629
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,433
But you know, I was--
I was really motivated
to get in.
630
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:23,100
And he's putting a pack
that weighs 80 pounds
on his body.
631
00:40:23,166 --> 00:40:24,700
It's, you know,
almost heavier than him.
632
00:40:24,766 --> 00:40:29,300
So, you know, he had a lot--
He had a huge uphill battle
to climb.
633
00:40:29,366 --> 00:40:30,833
See him, you're, like, ah, there's no--
634
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,533
That guy's in the infantry? No fuckin' way, you know what I mean?
635
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,366
But he's got heart. If we were rockin' 20 miles, he's rockin' 20 miles.
636
00:40:38,433 --> 00:40:40,966
You'd run into some guy and--
"Oh, he's not infantry.
637
00:40:41,033 --> 00:40:42,533
Look at that scrawny
little bastard."
638
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,866
You could go up to him
and be, like, "Hey,
listen, motherfucker.
639
00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:47,766
He's probably the most
squared-away, bad-ass
infantryman I fuckin' know."
640
00:40:54,333 --> 00:40:56,233
It just sounds heinous. It just sounds, you know--
641
00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:59,066
Manslaughter
just sounds horrible.
642
00:41:01,366 --> 00:41:04,233
Just came from the prosecutor.
They came back with--
643
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:06,966
This is what
they are offering.
644
00:41:07,033 --> 00:41:09,733
Involuntary
manslaughter.
645
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,000
They're saying
he failed to act
when he could have acted.
646
00:41:12,066 --> 00:41:16,533
What they expect him
to have done, I still
don't quite understand.
647
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,166
I don't know how Adam's
gonna react to that.
648
00:41:19,233 --> 00:41:20,866
What do you think
he's gonna say?
649
00:41:20,933 --> 00:41:23,866
Maybe, in his mind,
it would be better to do
involuntary manslaughter...
650
00:41:23,933 --> 00:41:26,833
than cowardice.
651
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,200
I don't know.
I don't know.
652
00:41:31,366 --> 00:41:35,266
The whole thing sucks.
Bottom line.
653
00:41:35,333 --> 00:41:37,066
Yeah. They just still
want to say...
654
00:41:37,133 --> 00:41:39,800
"Well, see, we got him
and he was the bad guy."
655
00:41:39,866 --> 00:41:42,100
I think
that's a bunch of crap.
656
00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:45,133
They still have to try
to get him for eight years
to make it look good?
657
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,633
I've been saying
that same thing.
658
00:41:49,666 --> 00:41:51,933
You know,
at this point,
659
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,133
we don't have
a choice.
660
00:41:57,566 --> 00:42:02,966
He's being forced to make
another decision that...
661
00:42:03,033 --> 00:42:06,266
isn't right...
662
00:42:06,333 --> 00:42:09,466
no matter what he chooses.
663
00:42:09,533 --> 00:42:11,066
Again.
664
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:59,400
Going on leave is probably
one of the worst parts
of deployment,
665
00:42:59,466 --> 00:43:01,933
'cause you go home,
and you want everything
to be normal.
666
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,133
But nothing's normal.
You're angry
and you're pissed off.
667
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,666
I mean, you know,
you're surrounding yourself...
668
00:43:07,733 --> 00:43:09,500
by people that love you
and care about you,
669
00:43:09,566 --> 00:43:11,533
but you don't know how to deal
with their emotions,
670
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,200
'cause you don't have
a grasp on your own,
and it was just--
671
00:43:15,266 --> 00:43:17,000
I don't know.
It just all weighed on me.
672
00:43:19,266 --> 00:43:23,200
I actually spent some time
thinking about it quite a bit.
Who I would tell.
673
00:43:23,266 --> 00:43:26,566
Would I talk to my girlfriend
or my brother or my mom?
674
00:43:26,633 --> 00:43:28,700
But how do you tell somebody
something like that, you know?
675
00:43:28,766 --> 00:43:31,966
And so, I don't know.
I did what most guys do.
676
00:43:32,033 --> 00:43:33,666
Or, you know,
most fuckin' macho.
677
00:43:33,733 --> 00:43:36,700
I just turned it inward.
You know what I mean?
678
00:43:36,766 --> 00:43:39,366
I've never been a guy
that's been really good
with emotion to begin with,
679
00:43:39,433 --> 00:43:41,766
and so I did
what I always did, you know?
680
00:43:41,833 --> 00:43:44,300
Buried-- Buried it
and fuckin' powered through it.
681
00:43:46,733 --> 00:43:49,966
So, I got back, I think,
sometime early, early April,
682
00:43:50,033 --> 00:43:52,366
and then, you know,
instantly--
683
00:43:52,433 --> 00:43:54,100
I mean, not even a day
or an hour--
684
00:43:54,166 --> 00:43:57,300
I literally
got off the Black Hawk
and made my way to my room...
685
00:43:57,366 --> 00:43:59,400
and ran straight into Gibbs.
686
00:43:59,466 --> 00:44:01,800
"Hey, look at all
the fuckin' goodies I got
while you were gone.
687
00:44:01,866 --> 00:44:03,966
And soon as I get back
from patrol, I'll tell you...
688
00:44:04,033 --> 00:44:06,966
all the cool shit you missed
while you were gone," you know?
689
00:44:07,033 --> 00:44:09,200
It was right there,
right back into it.
690
00:44:18,366 --> 00:44:22,400
As long as they have,
you know, open season...
691
00:44:22,466 --> 00:44:24,433
on whatever sentence
the case they want to put,
692
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:28,733
the worst he's going to get,
regardless of the facts,
is eight years.
693
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,033
That's what
the government's saying.
The worst.
694
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:35,166
So, what--
What the hell matters
is the charge.
695
00:44:35,233 --> 00:44:39,033
I can't reconcile with the fact
that they won't move
off this eight,
696
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:41,600
regardless
of what the charge is,
697
00:44:41,666 --> 00:44:45,266
when that's
what Morlock got
for murdering people.
698
00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:47,633
And I'm not saying
that Adam was innocent...
699
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:50,733
and that he made
every single right decision,
700
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,300
but I also know
that on January 20,
he e-mailed us--
701
00:44:55,366 --> 00:45:00,500
as early as January 20--
saying, "There's something
I need to talk to you about."
702
00:45:00,566 --> 00:45:04,866
And then February comes.
Oh, well, you know what?
Just suck it up.
703
00:45:04,933 --> 00:45:07,533
Suck it up and be a man.
704
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,233
Gibbs is, what, a 200-
and-something-pound man?
705
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:13,966
This is the ultimate case
of bullying,
706
00:45:14,033 --> 00:45:17,033
and I can't reconcile
with the fact
that they're just gonna say,
707
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,600
"Well, let's give him
eight years."
708
00:45:19,666 --> 00:45:22,333
The government
can excuse themselves...
709
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,400
from all of the missteps
they made.
710
00:45:27,466 --> 00:45:29,466
But let's get--
Let's get, in your own words,
711
00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:32,133
let's get our pound of flesh
from Adam Winfield,
712
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,600
even though,
of all the people out there,
713
00:45:34,666 --> 00:45:39,033
he was the only one
that did anything.
714
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:41,566
I-I-I have
a problem with that.
715
00:45:41,633 --> 00:45:45,833
And I guess ultimately,
it's not my issue.
It's Adam's issue.
716
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,066
But I have a problem
with that, 'cause, to me,
that's not justice.
717
00:45:49,133 --> 00:45:53,200
The army still has my son,
718
00:45:53,266 --> 00:45:56,566
and unless we do what they say,
I never get him back.
719
00:46:00,366 --> 00:46:02,266
Listen, I know
you're a mom.
720
00:46:02,333 --> 00:46:05,100
I know that's your child.
I'm tracking on all that.
721
00:46:05,166 --> 00:46:08,900
But you are the only mom
in the world to him.
722
00:46:08,966 --> 00:46:12,066
To everybody else,
he's a soldier.
723
00:46:12,133 --> 00:46:14,466
Thank you.
724
00:46:20,633 --> 00:46:22,433
So, what do you think?
725
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:25,233
Fine.
726
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:26,866
I don't really have
a problem with it.
727
00:46:26,933 --> 00:46:28,533
Are you sure?
728
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,633
'Cause ultimately,
worst case scenario,
729
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:37,266
everything falls apart,
it's eight years.
730
00:46:39,666 --> 00:46:43,566
And I don't want you to feel
like we're giving up on you.
731
00:46:58,166 --> 00:47:00,133
Why are we making
this deal?
732
00:47:02,666 --> 00:47:05,266
What else
are we gonna do, Emma?
We don't have a choice.
733
00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:07,300
Do we go to trial?
No.
734
00:47:07,366 --> 00:47:09,633
We can't.
735
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:12,400
I don't know, Chris.
I just feel like
in some ways...
736
00:47:12,466 --> 00:47:14,533
we're just leading him
to the slaughter.
737
00:47:17,866 --> 00:47:20,600
I should
have done more.
738
00:47:20,666 --> 00:47:24,066
I shouldn't have accepted
the answer that I got.
739
00:47:24,133 --> 00:47:25,966
I've been thinking
about that
for a long time.
740
00:47:26,033 --> 00:47:29,033
It's always
on my mind.
741
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:34,233
And we wouldn't be
standing here right now
if I'd done something more.
742
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,166
March went by, April went by, and--
743
00:47:52,233 --> 00:47:54,400
You know, we're coming up
to the end.
744
00:47:54,466 --> 00:47:56,300
We got maybe
one more big mission.
745
00:47:56,366 --> 00:47:58,700
I knew Sergeant Gibbs had
a lot of stuff planned.
746
00:47:58,766 --> 00:48:00,233
If I could just hold out...
747
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:05,066
two more months till June,
July, and it's all over.
748
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:10,866
The task on that day was...
749
00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:12,366
to go re-engage
an individual...
750
00:48:12,433 --> 00:48:14,400
that had been arrested
while I was on leave.
751
00:48:14,466 --> 00:48:16,300
They found an I.D.
or something in his house,
752
00:48:16,366 --> 00:48:19,633
so the P.O. wanted
to check him out
and see what he's up to.
753
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:23,366
Me and Winfield ended up
leaving that compound...
754
00:48:23,433 --> 00:48:27,800
and then making our way
towards an adjacent compound
that's kind of attached to it.
755
00:48:27,866 --> 00:48:32,233
And then we ended up
running into an individual,
a local there.
756
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:35,033
Sergeant Gibbs
was coming around
the other side.
757
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:37,266
He had a few
other guys with him.
758
00:48:37,333 --> 00:48:39,000
Most of the guys
that were with him...
759
00:48:39,066 --> 00:48:40,833
kind of had an idea
of what's going on, what--
760
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:43,833
You know, these sort
of scenario things
that had been taking place.
761
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,633
Um, and then--
So, there wasn't
a whole lot of conversation.
762
00:48:54,166 --> 00:48:58,133
I knew right then and there
that I couldn't kill
an innocent person.
763
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,433
I couldn't shoot an innocent man
just in cold blood.
I couldn't do it.
764
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,633
I didn't have it--
I didn't have any drive
or want to do it.
765
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:07,900
I didn't want to do it.
I didn't want to be there.
766
00:49:07,966 --> 00:49:09,400
I didn't want
that situation.
767
00:49:09,466 --> 00:49:12,133
I wanted to get up
and just run.
768
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,666
Sergeant Gibbs started,
769
00:49:13,733 --> 00:49:16,500
you know, telling us
how things were gonna go.
770
00:49:16,566 --> 00:49:18,700
Saying, you know,
"We're gonna set this up...
771
00:49:18,766 --> 00:49:20,633
to make it look
like we're doing
a movement...
772
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,566
and this guy came out
and attacked us when we
were passing through."
773
00:49:23,633 --> 00:49:25,633
"We saw a grenade.
We had to shoot him.
774
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:28,266
And that's, you know,
that's the way
it'll play out."
775
00:49:28,333 --> 00:49:33,400
My heart started going
1,000 miles a minute. Just--
776
00:49:33,466 --> 00:49:36,033
Just started
getting nervous.
777
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:39,066
My muscles started
to twitch. Just--
778
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,233
I just froze.
779
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,900
We were laying
right next to each other,
780
00:49:43,966 --> 00:49:46,633
so I kinda just
talked him through it,
781
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:49,200
speaking in his ear,
letting him know, "Hey, yeah.
782
00:49:49,266 --> 00:49:50,866
Nothing to worry about, man.
It's too easy.
783
00:49:50,933 --> 00:49:52,766
We've done it before.
You got nothing to worry about.
784
00:49:52,833 --> 00:49:56,466
Stick to the story,
and just get it over with."
785
00:49:56,533 --> 00:50:00,100
I can stand up
and shoot Gibbs and Morlock.
786
00:50:00,166 --> 00:50:03,500
But shooting
one of our own guys...
787
00:50:03,566 --> 00:50:08,500
over, in their opinion,
over a worthless Afghan?
788
00:50:08,566 --> 00:50:11,333
Reason to show me
absolutely no mercy.
789
00:50:12,466 --> 00:50:14,000
I fired...
790
00:50:14,066 --> 00:50:19,966
a couple shots off
after the grenade blew up.
791
00:50:20,033 --> 00:50:22,200
I didn't aim at him.
I didn't--
792
00:50:22,266 --> 00:50:24,100
I just-- I drew my weapon
away from him.
793
00:50:26,166 --> 00:50:29,533
After the dust settled
from the explosion,
794
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,166
Sergeant Gibbs walked up
and, uh, smile on his face,
795
00:50:34,233 --> 00:50:36,733
and he just shot the guy
two more times.
796
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:39,400
Then he said, "Hey.
797
00:50:39,466 --> 00:50:41,566
Come take a picture
with me with the body."
798
00:50:41,633 --> 00:50:43,766
And he told me
that I was a made man...
799
00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:47,433
and I didn't have
anything to worry about
from him ever again.
800
00:50:55,533 --> 00:50:59,366
What, what-- What just happened? How did I get in--
801
00:50:59,433 --> 00:51:02,600
I was doing fine
just avoiding it,
and now I'm in it.
802
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,233
His face is--
I can't forget his face.Yeah.
803
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,766
It's his dead face.
804
00:51:14,833 --> 00:51:16,333
His head just,
805
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,033
you know, with shrapnel,
and it's so swollen.
806
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,200
I just see it staring
at me all the time.
807
00:51:22,266 --> 00:51:24,033
Like whenever
I think about it.
808
00:51:25,133 --> 00:51:28,200
And that scream
from that woman.
809
00:51:28,266 --> 00:51:30,166
I'd never heard
anything like it before.
810
00:51:30,233 --> 00:51:33,733
I've never heard
such serious grief.Yeah.
811
00:51:39,833 --> 00:51:43,233
And that's, I'd say,
the hardest part
to live with is that.
812
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:45,300
Yeah.
813
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,366
And just the smile
on his face
when he shot that guy again.
814
00:51:55,433 --> 00:51:57,666
Gibbs' smile
on his face?
815
00:51:57,733 --> 00:52:01,000
Yeah. It just--
He was pleased.
He was happy.
816
00:52:01,066 --> 00:52:03,400
He just had
this huge smile, a grin.
817
00:52:03,466 --> 00:52:07,066
And just looked
straight at me, smiling.Oh.
818
00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:11,200
And then I just--
The thought that I know...
819
00:52:11,266 --> 00:52:14,200
he would have the same smile
if he did it to me.
820
00:52:41,066 --> 00:52:45,333
I'm living a nightmare right now.
821
00:52:47,466 --> 00:52:49,866
If I don't take sleeping medicine, I, I'm--
822
00:52:49,933 --> 00:52:51,666
You know, I have nightmares.
823
00:52:51,733 --> 00:52:57,300
I fight-- I gotta fight this-- this evil monster in my dreams.
824
00:52:57,366 --> 00:53:00,200
A lot of times, I don't remember what they are.
825
00:53:00,266 --> 00:53:03,166
I just know that they're violent.
826
00:53:03,233 --> 00:53:04,933
I'll jump up and I'll try
to get something...
827
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,500
or grab it
or stop it from coming.
828
00:53:07,566 --> 00:53:11,466
And I've actually
physically fell out of bed
a couple times doing that.
829
00:53:11,533 --> 00:53:13,166
I worry about Chris.
830
00:53:13,233 --> 00:53:20,033
Um, I think he's dealing with...
831
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,600
maybe some guilt.
832
00:53:21,666 --> 00:53:24,266
Did I raise him right?
You know, did I--
833
00:53:24,333 --> 00:53:26,100
Should I have let him
go in the army?
834
00:53:26,166 --> 00:53:28,766
Should I have continued
to pursue it?
835
00:53:28,833 --> 00:53:30,700
You know, that-- It's--
836
00:53:33,833 --> 00:53:36,633
You know,
he's a great father.
837
00:53:38,566 --> 00:53:43,166
And when your son comes to you
and asks for help...
838
00:53:43,233 --> 00:53:46,000
and you're not able
to help him--
839
00:53:47,966 --> 00:53:50,233
We tried to do the right thing, and...
840
00:53:53,066 --> 00:53:55,466
it still wasn't good enough.
841
00:54:15,433 --> 00:54:17,200
We only had a couple months left deployment.
842
00:54:17,266 --> 00:54:18,800
We're safe from here on out.
843
00:54:18,866 --> 00:54:21,566
The lid's on everything and the stories were in line...
844
00:54:21,633 --> 00:54:24,133
and we've got nothing to worry about.
845
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,733
And that's when
the whole incident
with Stoner arose.
846
00:54:35,533 --> 00:54:37,200
Stoner went
and expressed his concern...
847
00:54:37,266 --> 00:54:39,233
about guys in his platoon
smoking hash,
848
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:42,433
which led to him
getting beat up.
849
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:44,233
Why would you get stoned
in my room?
850
00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:45,866
Why would you do that?
851
00:54:45,933 --> 00:54:47,533
The shit reeked.
852
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,600
And who are they gonna blame?
The private.
853
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,966
And I heard the knock
on the door, so I--
854
00:55:09,033 --> 00:55:10,833
You know, I just opened it
and let them in.
855
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:13,200
I knew it was coming.
I knew what was gonna happen.
856
00:55:13,266 --> 00:55:17,866
He said some cheese dick line
like, "I understand you guys
are here to beat my ass.
857
00:55:17,933 --> 00:55:20,000
Go ahead and--
Go ahead and do it."
858
00:55:20,066 --> 00:55:22,433
So after that, it was
just, like, "All right."
859
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:24,466
My entire goal the entire time...
860
00:55:24,533 --> 00:55:27,600
was just don't give 'em the pleasure of letting 'em know it hurts.
861
00:55:29,666 --> 00:55:34,133
I'm just sitting here and I'm gonna take it, and I'm just gonna deal with it.
862
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,633
But you're the weak ones
for snapping like this.
863
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:41,500
Now we got an issue,
'cause he's rattin' us
about fuckin' hash.
864
00:55:41,566 --> 00:55:43,500
You know, what else
is he rattin' us about?
865
00:55:43,566 --> 00:55:46,100
Gibbs was very polite,
actually.
866
00:55:46,166 --> 00:55:50,400
He was almost like
a crazy, happy, nice person.
867
00:55:50,466 --> 00:55:55,700
Um, he explained to me,
you know, "You understand
why we did that."
868
00:56:18,133 --> 00:56:20,366
Gibbs went so far
as to tell me,
869
00:56:20,433 --> 00:56:23,400
"We could stick you
in a Hesco barrier
and kill you.
870
00:56:23,466 --> 00:56:25,366
You know, no one
will ever find you.
871
00:56:25,433 --> 00:56:27,533
Fill you in with dirt.
No big deal.
872
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,066
Or take you out
on a mission.
Kill you.
873
00:56:30,133 --> 00:56:32,366
No one would ever know
the difference."
874
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,333
He wanted
to prove his point...
875
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,000
by rolling out
the guy's fingers,
876
00:56:39,066 --> 00:56:40,800
which were
his war trophies,
877
00:56:40,866 --> 00:56:42,433
you know,
out on the floor.
878
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:45,366
The next day, an acquaintance of mine down--
879
00:56:45,433 --> 00:56:47,333
a medic
down at the aid station--
880
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,333
I was going down there
for some shit.
881
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,566
She's like, "Stoner
was just down here
and saw our major,
882
00:56:51,633 --> 00:56:53,966
and they were all
super-secretive and shit."
883
00:56:54,033 --> 00:56:56,166
They took me
into his personal tent...
884
00:56:56,233 --> 00:56:58,300
to talk to me
about everything
that had happened.
885
00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:01,233
It didn't take
a brain surgeon...
886
00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:04,600
to realize that I'd just
gotten my ass whupped.
887
00:57:04,666 --> 00:57:08,700
And of course, he just
immediately contacts
the guy higher than him,
888
00:57:08,766 --> 00:57:10,666
and it just goes higher
and higher and higher.
889
00:57:12,566 --> 00:57:18,033
When C.I.D. got involved, they, uh, started asking other questions.
890
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:22,466
The one thing I did know about was the body parts.
891
00:57:22,533 --> 00:57:27,700
Once that was said,
that opened up the door
to everything.
892
00:57:27,766 --> 00:57:31,500
Five U.S. soldiers
stand accused
of shocking crimes...
893
00:57:31,566 --> 00:57:34,500
that include
murdering Afghans
for sport.
894
00:57:34,566 --> 00:57:37,300
Today near Seattle,
the alleged ringleader of...
895
00:57:37,366 --> 00:57:41,233
The story's out.
They got Gibbs locked up.
Morlock's locked up.
896
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:43,500
Um, they brought
everybody else in.
897
00:57:43,566 --> 00:57:45,466
And so, initially,
we were, like, "Okay. Good.
898
00:57:45,533 --> 00:57:49,400
So, it's out there.
He's safe."
899
00:57:49,466 --> 00:57:52,500
The Army C.I.D. people came
here, and they told us--
900
00:57:52,566 --> 00:57:54,500
You know, we asked them,
"Does Adam need a lawyer?"
901
00:57:54,566 --> 00:57:56,466
They said, "No,
he shouldn't need a lawyer."
902
00:57:56,533 --> 00:58:01,300
It was really from
the direction of Adam
that had said,
903
00:58:01,366 --> 00:58:04,400
"You can call my parents.
Go talk to my parents.
904
00:58:04,466 --> 00:58:06,666
I told them about this
back in February."
905
00:58:06,733 --> 00:58:09,766
"He's fine. He's just-- He's--
He's the witness here.
906
00:58:09,833 --> 00:58:12,900
He's the main witness.
Everything's gonna be okay."
907
00:58:12,966 --> 00:58:16,900
I was relieved, you know?
A huge weight just got lifted.
908
00:58:16,966 --> 00:58:19,900
I finally got
to express everything...
909
00:58:19,966 --> 00:58:23,566
and really tell somebody about
what I'd been wanting to say...
910
00:58:23,633 --> 00:58:25,633
for the last, like,
six months, almost.
911
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:27,933
They told me
that I was gonna help them...
912
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,066
with their case
against Sergeant Gibbs.
913
00:58:30,133 --> 00:58:32,033
That they're not
coming after me.
914
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,333
But they lied to me.
915
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,400
You thought they
had lied to you?
916
00:58:36,466 --> 00:58:38,100
Yeah.
They just tricked me.
917
00:58:40,633 --> 00:58:44,966
I was at work, and, um,
918
00:58:45,033 --> 00:58:46,966
Emma-- Emma called me.
919
00:58:47,033 --> 00:58:51,133
She said that the commander
at the base had called her
and told them...
920
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,433
that Adam had been charged
with first-degree murder.
921
00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:57,533
And she was--
922
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,566
Emma was hysteric,
and I was just,
like, "What?"
923
00:59:01,633 --> 00:59:04,000
I mean, "What? What--"
I was stunned.
924
00:59:04,066 --> 00:59:05,700
I mean, I--
I was stunned.
925
00:59:05,766 --> 00:59:08,266
I mean, I--
I, like, lost it.
926
00:59:08,333 --> 00:59:11,966
I was just-- I, like--
I started hyperventilating.
927
00:59:12,033 --> 00:59:13,700
I fell on the floor.
928
00:59:13,766 --> 00:59:16,466
You know, I was, like--
I couldn't believe it.
929
00:59:16,533 --> 00:59:18,533
I almost killed myself
that night.
930
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,533
It's like I'm gonna do it
tonight for sure.
931
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,366
Tonight's the night.
932
00:59:24,433 --> 00:59:26,433
Just kept thinking
about it.
933
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:31,333
I was having panic attacks
the whole night and, um--
934
00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:40,166
I was sitting at the desk,
and I had an M4
sitting right next to me.
935
00:59:40,233 --> 00:59:43,433
I loaded it.
It was ready to go.
936
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:46,300
I had one
in the chamber already.
937
00:59:46,366 --> 00:59:49,266
Um, and I was getting ready
to write a note.
938
00:59:49,333 --> 00:59:51,066
To whom?
939
00:59:51,133 --> 00:59:53,566
Uh, my parents.
940
00:59:53,633 --> 01:00:00,900
Apologizing for everything.
Sorry for leaving
this way, and--
941
01:00:00,966 --> 01:00:03,133
So, um--
942
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,466
As I was looking for some paper
and a pen to write,
943
01:00:07,533 --> 01:00:11,133
I actually found
a Bible instead.
944
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,866
Started reading that.
945
01:00:13,933 --> 01:00:17,300
Started praying.
946
01:00:17,366 --> 01:00:23,400
Started crying
and asking God
for forgiveness, and--
947
01:00:23,466 --> 01:00:27,966
I just kept reading the Bible,
and it said something
about your--
948
01:00:28,033 --> 01:00:32,000
You'll be brought before kings
and the judges in the synagogues
and judged,
949
01:00:32,066 --> 01:00:35,633
but, um,
950
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:40,233
if you stay faithful
and suffer for my sake,
951
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:43,633
then I'll be with you.
952
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:47,000
So, I just--
953
01:00:47,066 --> 01:00:49,800
I just kept praying
all morning.
954
01:00:49,866 --> 01:00:53,433
Unloaded the weapon
and put it back.
955
01:01:12,900 --> 01:01:15,400
He smiled at everything.
956
01:01:15,466 --> 01:01:18,566
Just talked a thousand miles an hour.
957
01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:22,133
He was, like, the happy-go-lucky kid.
958
01:01:26,533 --> 01:01:32,333
You know, a mom, a dad, a house, jobs, three kids--
959
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,733
This is what we hoped for.
960
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,666
This is what every American family hopes for.
961
01:01:38,733 --> 01:01:41,066
And we had it.
962
01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:44,166
He reads
all the history books,
963
01:01:44,233 --> 01:01:49,666
and he reads all about
these great American patriots
and how heroic they were.
964
01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:55,200
He wanted to prove to himself that he could do something like that.
965
01:02:17,066 --> 01:02:19,433
The trial's finally here.
966
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:23,500
I'm pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter.
967
01:02:23,566 --> 01:02:25,233
My other charges...
968
01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:30,866
of premeditated murder
and conspiracy
are being dropped.
969
01:02:30,933 --> 01:02:34,566
The army is just wanting
to, you know, make
this all go away,
970
01:02:34,633 --> 01:02:37,500
and they're trying
to drop it down to
the lowest common denominator.
971
01:02:37,566 --> 01:02:39,400
They want the lowest guys
to pay for it.
972
01:02:39,466 --> 01:02:41,233
There's nobody been charged--
973
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:43,333
You know, staff sergeant or below, and that's it.
974
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,200
There's no officers have any responsibility for anything.
975
01:02:52,033 --> 01:02:55,133
It's huge.
This thing is big.
976
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,400
It's bigger than Adam.
It's bigger than me.
977
01:02:57,466 --> 01:02:59,833
It's bigger than everybody
right now.
978
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:05,000
Best-case scenario, um,
the judge awards me time served,
979
01:03:05,066 --> 01:03:08,100
and I'd walk out with my family that day.
980
01:03:10,166 --> 01:03:13,166
Worst case, I get
an eight-year sentence.
981
01:03:13,233 --> 01:03:16,200
If Adam would have went
to somebody out there,
he would have been dead.
982
01:03:16,266 --> 01:03:18,733
He would have came home
in a body bag
if we were lucky.
983
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,133
'Cause, you know,
Gibbs had threatened him...
984
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,100
that he would cut him up
in a million pieces...
985
01:03:23,166 --> 01:03:25,733
and throw him
to the wild dog packs out there,
986
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,533
and nobody
would ever find him.
987
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,900
The only remnants he would have
would be Adam's finger
on his necklace...
988
01:03:30,966 --> 01:03:32,633
that he was making
of body parts.
989
01:03:37,466 --> 01:03:39,300
It's all about getting that first kill...
990
01:03:39,366 --> 01:03:41,633
and going home with a mark that says you killed somebody.
991
01:03:43,833 --> 01:03:47,500
You know, you get the badge
that says you been over there
and that you fought in a war,
992
01:03:47,566 --> 01:03:49,133
and that's what
they're all shooting for,
993
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,000
regardless if it's
legitimate or not.
994
01:03:52,066 --> 01:03:55,266
And it's just ridic--
It just makes me sick
to my stomach.
995
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,933
Part of my job over there was to protect civilians.
996
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,333
I had a responsibility to put a stop to what was going on.
997
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,600
You know, I feel--
You know, I am guilty.
998
01:04:20,233 --> 01:04:24,433
Adam's a pawn in the big picture, is what he was.
999
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,000
He was stuck
in the middle of nowhere.
1000
01:04:27,066 --> 01:04:29,566
He had the Taliban
shooting at him on one side.
1001
01:04:29,633 --> 01:04:32,166
He had his own guys
threatening to kill him
if he didn't--
1002
01:04:32,233 --> 01:04:35,100
if he said anything
on his other side.
1003
01:04:35,166 --> 01:04:37,133
He had guns pointed at him
in both directions.
1004
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,233
What do you do?
What do you do?
1005
01:04:51,233 --> 01:04:54,366
It'll be the first time
I've seen you in those.
1006
01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:56,433
I've never seen you
in your dress blues.
1007
01:04:56,500 --> 01:05:00,200
No. It's the second time I've actually worn them. So--
1008
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:05,600
Will you--
Will you have to wear those
for the rest of the trials?
1009
01:05:05,666 --> 01:05:07,633
No.Okay.
1010
01:05:07,700 --> 01:05:09,200
It depends on what happens,
1011
01:05:09,266 --> 01:05:12,166
and if I'm still in,
1012
01:05:12,233 --> 01:05:14,733
whatever I'm wearing in the jail.
1013
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,566
All right.
1014
01:05:21,866 --> 01:05:25,800
After tomorrow,
no matter what,
1015
01:05:25,866 --> 01:05:29,766
either he's out,
or we can circle a date
on a calendar and say...
1016
01:05:29,833 --> 01:05:32,433
we have "x"
number of days
till you're home.
1017
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:34,200
We have one less day
until you're home.
1018
01:05:34,266 --> 01:05:36,866
And I think
that's huge for him,
1019
01:05:36,933 --> 01:05:38,566
that he can
at least say...
1020
01:05:38,633 --> 01:05:41,000
it's gonna be over.
1021
01:05:42,833 --> 01:05:45,500
He told me
he doesn't expect
to walk away tomorrow,
1022
01:05:45,566 --> 01:05:48,433
but we'll see.
1023
01:05:51,733 --> 01:05:53,700
I sure would
like him to.
1024
01:06:15,766 --> 01:06:19,500
Take two, three deep breaths,
and then just go into
what you're gonna say.
1025
01:06:19,566 --> 01:06:22,600
And just keep that in mind
and keep an image,
1026
01:06:22,666 --> 01:06:24,766
and then you might want
to look at your parents.
1027
01:06:24,833 --> 01:06:27,433
Mm-hmm. Okay.Okay?
1028
01:06:31,833 --> 01:06:33,433
Don't give up.
1029
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,366
Promise me that,
all right?I won't.
1030
01:06:35,433 --> 01:06:38,300
Things are
gonna be okay.Mm-hmm.
1031
01:06:38,366 --> 01:06:40,600
Okay.
1032
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,066
All rise.
1033
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,333
Specialist Winfield understood
on May 2, 2010...
1034
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,600
that they were blowing up
an innocent man.
1035
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,733
He could have made a scene that day.
1036
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,833
He could have done anything.
1037
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:02,300
What does Specialist
Winfield do?
1038
01:07:02,366 --> 01:07:07,333
Nothing. He had the opportunity
over and over and over again...
1039
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,333
to ensure
he did the right thing.
1040
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,633
And he himself told you he failed.
1041
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:19,366
And that failure had catastrophic consequences.
1042
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:26,666
Sir, not protecting that man was--
1043
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:34,400
It's haunted me for the last year now.
1044
01:07:34,466 --> 01:07:37,533
And--
1045
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,033
I just want to go home, sir. Sorry.
1046
01:07:43,733 --> 01:07:45,966
Specialist Adam Christopher Winfield,
1047
01:07:46,033 --> 01:07:48,800
this court martial sentences you...
1048
01:07:48,866 --> 01:07:51,266
to be confined for three years,
1049
01:07:51,333 --> 01:07:53,000
and to be discharged from the army...
1050
01:07:53,066 --> 01:07:55,766
with a bad conduct discharge.
1051
01:07:58,633 --> 01:08:01,400
I'm all right.
1052
01:08:01,466 --> 01:08:03,433
I can do this.
1053
01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:08,066
I'm sorry we didn't
protect you.It's okay.
1054
01:08:10,300 --> 01:08:15,066
Mom. Hey.
He got three years.
1055
01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:17,133
Three years.
1056
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,600
And a bad conduct
discharge.
1057
01:08:21,733 --> 01:08:24,900
- Are you okay?
Are you okay?
- I'm fine.
1058
01:08:24,966 --> 01:08:27,200
Just promise me
you're not gonna do
anything to yourself.
1059
01:08:27,266 --> 01:08:30,400
I'm not gonna
do anything.Okay? Good.
1060
01:08:30,466 --> 01:08:33,933
I was proud
of you today.So was I.
1061
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,733
You're stronger
than me.
1062
01:08:38,666 --> 01:08:40,733
I've already been through
the worst of this.
1063
01:08:43,633 --> 01:08:47,433
It's over right now.It doesn't matter what--
I mean, you know what?
1064
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:49,833
They can't do
anything else to you.
It's over.
1065
01:08:49,900 --> 01:08:51,633
Exactly.
It's all done.
1066
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,700
It's all over.
1067
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,766
I find myself thinking sometimes...
1068
01:09:14,833 --> 01:09:19,300
how are you gonna tell this story later on?
1069
01:09:21,666 --> 01:09:24,200
Somebody told me
the way to look at it...
1070
01:09:24,266 --> 01:09:26,366
is it's not
that you're a murderer.
1071
01:09:26,433 --> 01:09:28,166
You were convicted
of murder.
1072
01:09:33,266 --> 01:09:35,266
Pretty much initially after the first incident,
1073
01:09:35,333 --> 01:09:37,066
it was, like, "Fuck, welcome to the club, Morlock."
1074
01:09:37,133 --> 01:09:39,533
You know? "You're a grown-ass man now."
1075
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,633
That's what every
infantryman's looking for.
1076
01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:44,533
They're looking to be--
to fulfill their job.
1077
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,033
To fulfill, you know,
the way of life
of an infantryman.
1078
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:50,466
And so, I mean--
1079
01:09:50,533 --> 01:09:52,766
Your superiors, in a way,
kind of become
your father figures.
1080
01:09:52,833 --> 01:09:56,766
They become the guys
that you most want to impress,
1081
01:09:56,833 --> 01:09:58,600
and this was the way
to do it.
1082
01:10:11,366 --> 01:10:14,133
I was 19. Fresh out of high school.
1083
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,133
I thought I knew everything that there was to know,
1084
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,366
but, man, I was really, really wrong.
1085
01:10:21,333 --> 01:10:23,333
I didn't know who to talk to, you know?
1086
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,666
I didn't know what to say. I didn't know what to think.
1087
01:10:25,733 --> 01:10:27,933
'Cause these were the guys
that I was walking into combat.
1088
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,666
I was doing patrols
with these guys,
and I didn't want to--
1089
01:10:31,733 --> 01:10:35,200
I didn't want them to,
you know, think different of me.
1090
01:10:55,266 --> 01:10:56,700
We're training you...
1091
01:10:56,766 --> 01:10:59,700
from the day you join to the day you're out...
1092
01:11:00,433 --> 01:11:01,900
to kill.
1093
01:11:01,966 --> 01:11:03,766
Your job is to kill.
You're infantry.
1094
01:11:03,833 --> 01:11:09,266
Your job is to kill everything
that gets in your way.
1095
01:11:09,333 --> 01:11:12,733
Well, then why the hell
are you pissed off
when we do it?
1096
01:11:26,166 --> 01:11:29,833
I never want to be referred to as a whistle-blower,
1097
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:32,633
'cause it's worse than what they're being portrayed as.
1098
01:11:32,700 --> 01:11:37,000
If I could go back, I wouldn't have said anything.
1099
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,433
Everything we did was put into the media...
1100
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:45,266
as we're horrible, we're the Kill Team,
1101
01:11:45,333 --> 01:11:47,300
we're rogue platoon, we're all these things.
1102
01:11:47,366 --> 01:11:51,266
I don't care
what the military
wants to say,
1103
01:11:51,333 --> 01:11:53,266
but this goes on
more than just us.
1104
01:11:53,333 --> 01:11:55,433
We're just the ones
that got caught.
1105
01:11:58,566 --> 01:12:01,433
There was no way for me not to be a part of it.
1106
01:12:02,833 --> 01:12:04,666
There's no way not to be surrounded by Gibbs.
1107
01:12:04,733 --> 01:12:08,533
There's no way not to be pressured into these things.
1108
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,600
The constant pressure of having to kill...
1109
01:12:10,666 --> 01:12:13,733
and then the risk of being killed yourself--
1110
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,200
It was impossible
not to surrender
to the insanity of it all.
1111
01:12:30,133 --> 01:12:34,833
I think about it a lot. The war.
1112
01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:39,633
All the stuff that the guys in my platoon were doing.
1113
01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:41,833
I never understood it. I--
1114
01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:45,366
Even now, I don't understand.
1115
01:12:45,433 --> 01:12:48,033
I just-- I don't know. I'll never understand, I guess.
1116
01:12:56,733 --> 01:12:59,800
War is dirty.
1117
01:12:59,866 --> 01:13:03,933
It's not how they portray it
in the movies where, you know,
1118
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,166
there's just a bunch
of honorable men...
1119
01:13:09,233 --> 01:13:14,133
with, you know,
unshakable patriotism.
1120
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:19,033
It's just a bunch
of guys with guns.
1121
01:13:43,366 --> 01:13:46,400
And I wish
that I could fix it.
1122
01:13:50,166 --> 01:13:53,433
And I wish--
1123
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:57,233
I don't know.
I wish that none of that
had to happen to them.
1124
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,733
Um--
1125
01:14:08,066 --> 01:14:11,700
And I wish I could
tell them that myself.
88140
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