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- Hi.

- The question is, are y'all?

- Tonight on the "Southern
Charm" Season 9 reunion...

"Southern Charm."

- How are you?

- My cleavage popping off.

Boom, boom, boom!

- They're like prescription
eye drops for news anchors.

- Hey, Marilyn.

- * Happy birthday to you *

- Wow. Va-va-va-va-va-va-va-va.

- First reunion.

And I got a lot to say.

- Let's just say
I was undisciplined

last night, which means
I may be unhinged today.

- No. But we're here.

- Austen, it's astounding,
the lack of contriteness.

There's a quote by Napoleon--

"Never interfere
with your opponent

"when he's making mistakes.

It's rude."

[laughs]

- No. I'm nervous with Taylor.

- Olivia is a very,
very bold human being.

Like, I am in the hot seat,
but then there's other things

that need to be discussed.

- Like, I'm sorry, you're in
this because of your actions.

But like, that's not a person
I want in my life at all.

- Shep's coming in.

- Hey, Shep, come on in.

You're gonna sit
right over here.

- Lovely, lovely.
- Hey, guys. Hey.

- It's JT on 6 and 7.

- We're good. OK, thank you.

- Pan right.

Let's clear people out
of the way, please.

Let's see on this shot.

Here we go.

- What percentage
of times with Shep

did you end the evening
satisfied?

- I mean, I could probably
count on one hand.

- Oh, no.

- Well.

- I think I'm gonna perform
the first ever

Fuckboy exorcism.

- The power of JT compels you.

[laughter]

- Jesus.

- Not only have you proven
yourself to be a shit friend,

you're a shit human too.

- Olivia, every text--

- Shut up.

- Were you lying in that scene?

- I was bending the truth.

- Yeah, he's not
bending the truth.

He's full of shit.
- JT.

- I'm telling the truth.

It's so weird.

- BravoCon,
I was out of control.

- Well, what happened is you
were blacked out all weekend.

- Yes.

- This road that you're on
ends with a cliff.

I can't be in that car anymore.

[dramatic music]

- I'm just saying, Olivia,

forgive as you want
to be forgiven.

- The implication there is
that she's done something...

- To a friend.

- Had a hookup--
dumb, drunken night one time.

And she's the only person
I told on Earth about that.

And here you are
sitting here now

trying to use it against me.

- Andy, on one, please.

- Five, four, three, two...

- "Southern Charm"
season 9 reunion starts now.

- Mm-hmm.

* *

- Hey, everybody.

Welcome to the "Southern Charm"
season 9 reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen reuniting
with the gang from Charleston

to rehash so much drama.

It might cause a little
Southern discomfort

for my guests.

This season ended
with a big cliffhanger,

and we're gonna get to that
a little later.

But first, I want
to welcome everyone.

Hey, Shep, you're
looking dapper and green.

- Thank you very much.

I like the motif this year.

- Yes.

Well, it's kind
of based on your--

- Mountain house.
- Yeah, mountain house.

- My happy place.

- Do you feel happy now?

- Give me a few hours.
- OK.

Hey, Craig.

Paige picked your
clothes out tonight?

- She--yeah, heavy influence.

- OK.

Uh, Taylor Ann Green.

- Hi, Andy.

- Did Ariana give you
any advice

about the revenge dress?

- I'm wearing
my scarlet letter,

owning up to everything.

- Oh, really?
- Mm-hmm.

- Hey, Olivia.
- Hi.

- Should mention Olivia
is also in red today.

- I don't have
a scarlet letter.

- Yeah.
- OK.

- Madison Monroe.

- Hi, Andy.

- I love the look.
- Thank you.

- I've seen a lot of looks.

This is at the top.
- Oh. Thanks.

- Hi, Venita.

- Hello.

- Last year,
you gave us Barbiecore.

What look are you
giving us this year?

- "Waiting to Exhale."
- OK.

- [laughs]

- Hey, JT.

- Hey, Andy.

- We're popping your
reunion cherry tonight.

How do you feel?

- I think I'm gonna perform

the first ever
fuckboy exorcism.

[laughter]

- On him.

- What a fucking...

- You know, that demons
coming out today, boy.

I'm gonna work you.
- Boy.

- Wow.
- Whoo-hoo!

- Who is this guy?

- The power of JT compels you.

Power of JT compels you.

[laughter]

- Jesus.

- Hey, JT, it's minute
one of the reunion.

- You gotta call me now.

- So I do appreciate
coming in hot but just--

we're gonna get to everything.

Hey, Leva.
- Hi.

- Who's watching Republic
while you're here?

- All the wild kids.

- Can you access the security
cameras on your phone?

- Oh, yeah.
- Oh, great.

- They're on my phone.
- OK.

Last but certainly not least,

Austen Kroll.

How are you feeling
about being here today?

- Yeah, I'm anxious.

I'm anxious to get this
kind of underway

and to hopefully just
move on, whether it's

in a bad direction
or a good direction.

Today, it will be figured out.

- OK. Very good.

So let's start off
on a serious note.

Who here thinks
pandas are real?

[laughter]

- I'm questioning it now.

- I really wanted them
to be real.

- Pandas?

- Why aren't they real?

- There's just no
evidence of it.

- Oh.

[laughter]

- I think they're people
in bear costumes.

- [laughs]

- Becca, from Houston,
Texas wants to know.

"Craig, what's the purpose
of the tin hats?

Who are you trying to keep
out of your head?"

- The people.

- The people.
- The people.

- The voices.
- The voices.

- Tinfoil companies
offered you advertising.

- Yeah, like Reynolds Wrap.

It's all over me.

- It's all over you, yeah.
[laughter]

- I want to ask you about

a few other
conspiracy theories.

True or false.
The Earth is flat.

- No.

I fly enough to know
that it's not.

- True or false.

Is Bigfoot real?

- Wait, that, we don't know.

- Austen, Craig thinks when
you look down into the left,

it means you're lying.

Do you agree?

- I think I can look
in lots of directions

and still lie, I suppose.

- When you looked back
at that scene,

were you lying in that scene?

- I was bending the truth.

Yeah.

- Have you ever kissed?

- No.

- He looked down and to
the left when he said that.

- Can we agree that
he wasn't bending the truth,

he was lying, Craig?

- Oh, yeah, I think
everyone saw that.

- He said I bend the truth.

- OK, great. Thank you.

- Olivia, this season
all you wanted to from people

was honesty.
Why do you think the truth

is so hard to find
in this group sometimes?

- I don't know.
I think there was so much

effort put into, like,
covering something up

and making agreements, and

maybe they just don't value
the friendships

the same way I do.

- No one knows what that
means, Shep.

- What'd you say?
- I said "subterfuge" and--

lost Craig there.
- Yeah, I think

I just value
friendships differently.

- Austen, who do you think is
the least honest person

in this group?
- Oh, boy.

I mean, at times it was me.
Yeah.

I mean, this year
I certainly lied,

and I paid the price for it,
so.

- Hey, that therapy's working.
[laughs]

- Um, Madison, Craig gave you
a tip about hiccups.

- Hiccups come from
the fact that we...

- [hiccups]
- Evolved from fish

and we used to breathe
underwater.

They forget that we are
not a fish.

- [hiccups]

- Say it.
- I'm not a fish.

- Say "I'm not a fish."
- I'm not a fish.

- I'm not a fish.
- I'm not a fish!

- I'm not a fish.
- [hiccups]

- Did saying "I am not a fish"
actually work?

- No.
[laughter]

- Whether Madison was
going HAM in Jamaica

or acting like a bored
housewife in Charleston,

one thing's for sure--
this newlywed still has quite

a few hurrahs left in her.

How does your marriage
work exactly?

- Um, so pretty much, he's gone
for about 3 to 4 days,

and then he's home the rest.

I don't think that
anyone could put up with me

24/7, but he says he can.

I don't know.

- Austen, you got
a lot of blowback

for your comment about Brett

that he was not as good-looking
as Madison made him out to be.

Old Mom on Twitter
said the fact

that Austen thinks
he looks just

as good as Brett shows that
his self-awareness is zero.

Care to defend yourself?

- Yeah. I mean, I just meant

that he was just like a normal,
you know, lovely guy.

- What was your reaction
to his Brett diss?

- I will say, you know,

after Brett met Austen--

and this isn't a dig to you--
but he knew

there was nothing
to worry about.

- That's not not a dig.

- Yeah.
[laughter]

- This isn't a dig to you.

- Well, let's just say,
you know, he's confident.

- We got a lot of
viewer comments

about Brett as a stepdad.

Was there any kind of
awkward transition period

after you two got married
between your son

and his new stepdad?

- You know, honestly, another
reason why the long distance

works--because Hudson
still has me all to himself

certain days.
- Right.

- And Brett has never
tried to be his dad

or step into that role.

But he--you know, Hudson looks
up to Brett in so many ways.

- Man, uh, I mean,
I could get choked up

thinking about it now.

But the scene
when Hudson came home,

and you all comforted him.

- What's wrong?

- What's up?
- Are you crying?

Hudson.

Are you hurt?
Oh, what? Who beat you?

- This kid.

- OK, OK, calm down.
- Let me see.

What happened
to your legs too?

Did you crash?
- Did you all get in a fight?

Oh, my God!

You know, that's
something that no one

has ever prepared me for.

So that was really hard.

Not only was I crying because
someone had hurt my child,

but I was also crying at
the thoughts that I was having.

- What happened after
the fight?

Did you have a chat
with the mom, or...

- I tried.

- And?

- She wasn't home.

And neither was the father.

- So I spoke...
- You rang the doorbell?

- Into the Ring camera.

- Ooh.

- And let's just say,
she took care of it.

- Wow.
- Yeah.

- Leva, how did she do
in that situation?

- I think, perfect.

I mean, that's really
what I would have done.

Yeah.
- Yeah.

What's the latest
with baby number two?

- You know, that's God's plan.
- Yeah.

I know what a tough time it was
for you being pregnant.

Have you ever considered,
uh, surrogacy?

- I have.
[sighs]

But I don't know. I just--yeah.

Yeah, I think I--I think I need
to do it myself.

- Venita, you and Madison have
known each other a long time.

Have you seen
a change in Madison

since she married Brett?

- Absolutely.

She's just gotten this
grown woman aura

about her now that--
since she's gotten with Brett

and is very refreshing
and nice to see.

- Shep, seeing Madison,
do you feel at all

inspired to settle down?

- [laughs] Yeah.

I mean, I'd be lying
if I--but I just don't

know if that's my destiny.

I'm a restless person,
and monotony scares me.

- Monotony or monogamy?

- Well, what's the difference?

- Yeah, what's nontraditional?

[laughter]

- Touché.

- I'm just talking
about just little things

that you know you have to do
over and over again in a week.

And you know, oh, we got a
babysitter for Saturday night.

Like, I just--

- To be honest, Shep,
when I had my son,

I had a full panic attack
because I thought,

I have to put him
in the tub every day

for the rest of--in
the moment, I thought,

for the rest of my life.

You know what I mean?

And my mom was like, calm down.

Now, putting him
in the tub is what

I look forward to.

You have to be able
to, like, kind of break out

of thinking certain things
are monotony when

they're actually,
like, really beautiful.

- Right.

- You seemed happiest
in the entire decade

that I've known you happiest
when you were with Taylor.

- I do not deny that at all.

In fact, I'll cop
to it for sure.

- Wow.

- The happiest time of my life.

- You're kind of sneering
at Shep right now.

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

What's going through your mind?

- Oh, I mean,
I'm just very happy

where we are
in our relationship.

- Broken up.

- Friends.
- Good. Yeah, good.

- Sharon, from Dubuque, Iowa,
wants to know

why Austen called Madison
a bored housewife.

- Um...

Madison,
hush your fucking mouth.

You're not even
involved in shit.

Bored housewife.

Dude, it doesn't
fucking matter.

I mean, in the moment
in Jamaica, I was drunk.

And everything was going
south, you know, for me.

And so that's something
to easily just cop to

and like apologize to
because that was, you know,

they're deflection
on my part for sure.

- Were you pissed?

- Yeah, I was a little pissed.

But I mean, also,
I mean, he's got to find

a girl to even make a wife.

So I think that
that comment is a little

out of nowhere, and bored?

We all know I'm not boring, so.

- No, you're not.
- Thank you.

- Just JT.

- It's just, like, a couple
reunions ago, he was crying

and calling her a monster.

And now
she's a bored housewife.

It's, like, she can do
no good for him.

He just harasses her
no matter what.

- JT, you couldn't
possibly begin

to understand that
the relationship

that Madison and I have--

- Her glow-up
compared to your glow-down...

- You couldn't possibly--
- It is iconic.

- JT, you are--you are--

- I'm telling the truth.

- It's so weird.
It's so weird.

- Is JT the man version of me?

- Yeah.

- Commodus.

You literally are Commodus.

Kiss my ring.
- He's what?

He's a commonest?

- Commodus in "Gladiator,"
the emperor.

- Oh, Commodus.

- Kiss my--remember,
he hates the Gladiator.

[laughter]

- We're gonna set Voldemort
in that Big Bird costume.

- You've named, like, eight
characters in the last--

- Well, he's a big movie guy.

- OK.
- God, man.

Worry about yourself, pal.
You really do.

- I'm doing just fine.

- You can't help yourself.

You're just over there
talking, talking, talking.

- I just like to illuminate you
for who you really are.

- OK.
- And I'm gonna do it

all day long.
- [laughs]

* *

- We'll be right back.

Coming up...

Do you leave ladies happy
when you're done with them?

- I try.

I just like driving
towards the finish line.

I mean...

- Your finish line
or their finish line?

- That's the problem, right?

[laughter]

[indistinct chatter]

- Dude, I wanted to wear
this in like a pink.

- You're gonna look good
in anything.

And now that I have
a crush on you...

It's not lost on me, OK?

He's, like, huh!

Hey, you!
- [chuckles]

- Four, three, two...

- I'm Andy Cohen, back with
the gang from "Southern Charm."

Well, this season,
Craig did the impossible.

He became a man
in Charleston who

actually wants to settle down.

And while he was eager to take
his long-distance relationship

to the next level,
some thought he

and his girlfriend were
not on the same page.

Get it?

- Oh, my God, it's so cute.

- Craig, Queens of Bravo
on Instagram

called you the Kendall Jenner
of "Southern Charm"

when they saw you
trying to open

a can and a bottle of wine.

[clanks]

- Oh, shit.

Today's just been a day.

I mean, that's what happened.

[laughter]

- JT, on "Watch
What Happens Live,"

you mentioned that Craig has
some colorful sexual fetishes.

- I've heard from multiple
sources he's into bondage,

and that's kind of hot,
like, it's just great.

- Oh, really?
- In intimacy?

- Yes.
- No.

Like at the library, Venita.

Do you like bondage?

Just answer the question,
please.

- I think light bondage.

- Yes, light, light bondage.

[laughter]

- I've heard Craig
is adventurous,

and I've known
a lot of his exes.

- I heard you were a sexter.

- Where did you hear that,
Leva?

- Exes he's dated.

- Naomi.
- People.

- My thrill comes
from the female's joy,

because it's not too hard
to make a guy happy.

- It takes 3 minutes.

- You're now kind of
accessing something

that I'm remembering,
which is a conversation

you all had on a bus.

- Taylor,
what would your advice be

to the next person
that hooks up with Shep?

- Oh!
[laughter]

- Yeah, because I don't care.

- Do you leave ladies happy
when you're done with them?

- I try.

I just like driving
towards the finish line.

I mean...

- Your finish line
or their finish line?

- That's the problem, right?

Every girl's finish line
is so finicky and crazy.

- Taylor, what percentage
of times with Shep

did you end the evening
satisfied?

- I mean, I could probably
count on one hand.

- Oh, no.
- Ugh, stop.

- Why did you want to get
back together with me, Taylor?

- A lifetime of...
- Clearly wasn't the sex.

- Unsatisfaction?
Is that what you're saying?

- It doesn't mean that
I wasn't having a good time.

- I mean, I can name
on more than one hand.

Let's just say that, Taylor.

- It's what you said.

- Yeah, I know,
but I was having fun.

- OK, well.
- OK.

- OK.
- Can I make a suggestion?

There's a book, Shep.
- It's a puzzle.

- The book is called
"She Comes First."

- Yeah.
- And this book, like,

walks you through
how to help her get there

before you do.
- Hey, I'm all ears, man.

- Yeah, I'm--
- 'Cause everyone's different.

- That's good. That's good.
- Yeah, it's good, yeah.

- You're very well read.

- Shep hates his life
right now.

- It's just--it--I'm sure--

- Would you like me
to walk you through it?

- It's actually frustrating
for a lot of women

that have trouble
getting there,

and I know there's
a lot of them.

- I wish for them it was
as simple as it is for guys.

- That's just an excuse
that they tell you

if you can't figure out
the puzzle.

- My tongue gets tired, man.

[laughter]

- Why don't you join me?
- Yes.

- And we will walk
through this together.

- Join you? OK.

- JT said we're adventurous.

- I want to be there too.

- Craig, you don't wanna--

you don't want him to join
your situation.

- Now Austen getting jealous.

[laughter]

- Austen.
- Yes.

- Do you complete your ladies?

- I think so very much.

And Madison said a very--

and I don't wanna bring her
into this

because she's married now,

but last year she said it all.

- I don't think anyone
is surprised to learn

Austen is boring in bed.
[laughter]

- Something stuck me around
for three years.

[laughter]

I'm a girl who-- I think about
myself a lot of the time,

so I've never had bad sex,
really.

- OK, Olivia,
is Austen a generous lover?

- Yeah, I've never had bad sex
with Austen.

- Oh, wow.
- OK, very good, Austen.

Good reviews.
- Thank you.

- You got one thing
going for you.

- I got one thing.

- Taylor, same question.
- What?

- Is Austen a generous lover?
- Oh, my God.

[laughter]

- I would not know that.
- OK.

- Oh, that was a trick
question.

- Just checking.

OK.

Craig, how's
the pillow business going?

- You know, it's good.

In four years, I've been able
to take Sewing Down South

to an eight-figure business,
and we're in

Kroger stores
across the country.

Welcome to the
warehouse, right?

- Yeah.
It's pretty sweet.

- It's looking good.

- I have a feeling this room
is going to fill up fast.

We have 30 employees
with health insurance and--

- Wow.
- That's awesome.

- Congratulations.
[applause]

- Um, how are the renovations
to the house going?

- They're finally--
- Is the pool done?

- Yeah, finally finished.

- Austen has spent a lot of
time there.

I have cameras, so I'll like
pull up my camera,

I'll be like, "Hey,
Austen's laying out"--

- I text you.
- Yeah, he texts me,

but it's fun--
- You have a key to his house?

- Well, I--
- The gate, like, he'll walk

to the gate...
- Oh, yeah.

- And then you know Shep for
a while was coming by,

jumping in the hot tub and--
- Yeah.

That pool is epic.

We're gonna have a lot of fun
there.

- Is it true Paige decorated
most of the house?

- Yeah.
- She did?

- Yeah.
- Wow.

Um, Danielle on Twitter said,
can we all just say aloud,

"Paige is never moving
to Charleston"?

- I figured out a way to work
from New York, which was good.

And that's what I kind want
to see from you down here.

- Yeah.

Can't just, like, plant,
like, OK.

And now you'll be in
Charleston forever.

- Show of hands,
who in this group

thinks Paige is gonna
end up moving to Charleston?

Austen, Madison, and Olivia.

- I don't think, like,
possibly full time.

- OK.

- If and when, you know,

the kid portion comes,
then maybe,

I could see Paige, you know,
transitioning to Charleston,

but still, like, you know,
having like a life

in New York, it's so easy.

Taylor, at Madison's party
you accused Paige

of cheating on Craig.

- You didn't have my back.

- I didn't cheat on you.
My friend did.

If it wasn't for me,

he would have slept
with the fucking girl.

And I should have let him.

- What about your girl
cheating on you?

- No!

- Um, Liz from Maryland said,
"Taylor doesn't seem like

the type of girl
who makes stuff up."

Where'd you hear the rumor?

- Um, it was a rumor
that was going around

at BravoCon.
- Last year at BravoCon?

- Heard from someone--yeah.

Who isn't on this couch today,
but, um...

- Someone from "Southern Charm"?

- From "Southern Charm," yeah.

- Who used to be on the show?
- Yeah.

- She have red hair?

- Maybe.
- Maybe?

Leva, you seem to hear
everything.

- I heard it, but I feel like
it was somebody

trying to hate on Paige
in another camp.

- And to Taylor's credit, we had
a really nice conversation,

and we talked about
what she was going through

because I'd been cheated on
in my life

and I knew it would make you
completely confused

with the world that you thought
that you knew.

And she, you know, told me that
she knew it wasn't true,

and just said it because
she was upset in the moment

and, um, we moved on.

- Uh, Shep,
we were talking about

conspiracy theories earlier.

We forgot to mention
your own personal one.

You're not sure Paige exists
because she's never around.

- I said--
I mean, we might--

I mean, look,
it's really, really hard

to have a relationship
on camera,

and it put a lot of strain
on me and Taylor.

- Does he get off scot-free
because she's not around?

- Well, no, he's smart.

He's strategic in that manner,

because when you put it
under the white hot light

and people start picking
at loose threads,

things can go really sideways.

- Is it a strategy?
- It's not,

but I can't say that, like,
there hasn't been

a time or two that Paige went
up to our bedroom and was like,

"I don't want to deal
with the group right now."

And like,
I know that Shep thinks

that we don't get, you know...

- Scrutinized.
- Scrutinized.

But I also think that
my relationship with Paige

is a lot different than
his relationship with Taylor.

- You guys broke up
because of infidelity.

Do you think
without the cameras

and without us
talking about it,

that wouldn't have happened?

- Yeah,
we'd probably be married.

- Wow.

- Did you just say
you'd probably be married?

- Yeah, because I wouldn't--
I wouldn't be as distracted.

I would be a different
person, you know.

I'd be like, I met someone
I really care about,

and this is it.

- You look like you have
a mix of love, hurt, regret.

- I think it's all of that.

- I--I agree with you, Shep.

I just don't know if it's
in your cards, and that's OK.

Some people aren't meant to be
married and live that life.

- That would be
so tough, though,

to be with the person
that is saying

that they were supposed
to be together,

or that there's still love.

I'd be like,
then why don't we fix this?

- All I'll say is she was right
about a lot of things in her,

you know, analysis of me.

And I've kind of realized a lot
of things here recently that--

and you know, we'll continue
to talk about it.

- We'll be right back.

[dramatic music]

Coming up...

- I saw the text.

- What did it say?

- It said,
"Come one, come all."

And then there's
a picture and it said,

"Is this like
what you're looking for?"

- It was not that.

* *

[light music]

- OK.
- Let's chew the fat.

- Let's play Truth or Dare.

- Let's see if we can keep our
heads from getting blown off.

- All right?

- Yes, sir.

- All right,
let's get back into it.

This season, Taylor was single,

unfettered,
and well, unfiltered.

But was this newly independent
woman finding her voice

or losing her manners?

Taylor, at the beginning
of the season

we saw you living
your single girl life

with your BFF, Olivia,
by your side.

How'd you like being single
together?

- Charleston's an interesting
place to be single.

- [laughs]

- So, uh...
- Seems like it.

- Yeah. [laughs]

But no, I mean, it's fun.

It's good.
There are good men

and keepers in the mix.

- Olivia, how did you feel about
your friendship with Taylor

at the beginning of the season?

- Good. I mean, we had spent so
much time prior to.

I was excited to get to show
our friendship

and we weren't the guys'
girlfriends or exes.

I was--
- Right.

- So, yeah.
- You had moved on.

- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah.

Vanessa from San Juan said,
"Taylor, you told Olivia

"at the beginning of the season
you were happy

"to be single,
but you were actually acting

like you wanted
to be back with Shep."

Looking back, do you see why
some viewers were confused

by your behavior?
- Absolutely.

I think it's something that if
you speak it into fruition,

maybe you'll believe it.

But I wasn't believing it.

- You seemed so angry
with Shep, or at least

so emotional around him at
the beginning of the season,

even though
a decent chunk of time

had passed since you broke up.

Why was that?

- I mean, he was traveling
around and doing his thing.

And I think it was just
out of sight, out of mind.

So when he came back
into Charleston,

it was just kind of
like rehashing all

of those emotions and seeing
him for the first time

in a long time.

I'm glad you're doing well.

- I'm glad
you're doing well too.

- Yeah, thank you.

- Good. It's good to see you.

- Yeah, you too.

- Cheers.

* *

- I thought that
I had been making

good steps moving forward.

And I hadn't at all.

- The dildo gift, by the way,
had a lot of viewers talking.

- You're gonna like the gift
that I got you guys.

- Yeah.
- Oh, my God.

What is that?
- [giggles]

- We get casserole dishes,
and Taylor gets us a dildo.

- Shelby on Twitter said,
I've heard of champagne flutes,

but dildos, not classy.

- After hearing...

- I should bring
the dildo to Craig.

- About your sexual
situation with him,

maybe you needed it more.
- Oh, shut up.

- So...
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[laughter]

- I was trying to be funny.

I had a--after the breakup...
- What was so offensive

about the dildo?
- I had a bunch of dildos

sent to my house.

- I just think
it was the first time

of her meeting my husband.

And I mean,
if it was my bachelorette,

bring all the dildos you want.

- I agree.

- But can we put one
in Shep's mouth real quick?

Because it's already
starting to bother me.

- What is? Shep's mouth is?
- Yeah.

I mean, for him to just--
2 seconds ago,

tell me to shut up.

I'm like, you're just so rude.

- I can't believe you
can recognize rudeness.

It's amazing.

- Here we go.

[laughter]

- They're able to stay civil
for a small period of time.

- I've only been here
for one hour.

- It's this--
[laughs]

- Taylor, at the beginning
of the season,

the girls rallied around you
and tried to give you advice

when it came to Shep.

Um, "Don't let him see you
get all worked up."

"The best revenge
is doing well."

Leva, could you elaborate on
what you were trying

to get across to her?

- I mean, I really just didn't
think that was

gonna serve anything, you know,
at that point.

And she was just unravelling and
saying things she regretted,

and I just wanted her
to pull it together

and just let Shep
come in his own time,

or just move on, you know.

- Coming in his own time
doesn't seem to be a problem.

[laughter]
- [chuckles]

- OK, now, I want to move on
to something else,

and we're obviously gonna talk
about your relationship

with Austen and Olivia later.

But first, the group
is clearly very

pro-nude photos and sexting.

But still, one of the biggest
bombshells this season

was a risqué photo
that Taylor sent.

And Taylor, we got
a lot of viewer questions

about the nude photo.

The obvious one that
came up again and again

was of all the guys
in Charleston, why Whitney?

- Great question.

I asked myself the morning
after I accidentally sent it.

But I had heard that
Shep and Whitney were

gallivanting around town,
bringing women

back to Patricia's house.

And I was being petty.

And I just was like, is this
what you're looking for?

Like, hope you guys
are having fun.

Two middle fingers to you guys.

- You were doing it kind of...
- Yes.

- To get at him.

And by the way, I don't like
how you were shamed for it.

I thought it was absolutely--

- I think it's inappropriate

that you were going around
showing people.

- It was just more of a joke
than anything.

- Well, if you feel
like it's nothing,

I'll release my sex tape.
- [laughs]

- I think it was fucked up
that he showed anyone.

That was bullshit.

- Venita, how do you
respond to critics

who say you and Madison were
shaming Taylor over the photo?

- We weren't shaming her
for the nude photo.

We were shaming her
because she sent

a nude photo to another
friend in the group.

- Please.

I admitted I had sent
nude photos.

I said, am I living
under a rock?

Of course I've done this.

- It just opened up like
a whole new can of worms,

as we were dealing with
the you and Austen thing.

- But also, it was Whitney's
girlfriend who told

Patricia about the nude photo.

- Oh.

- So it wasn't Whitney
telling his mom.

- Nobody know he has
a girlfriend or not.

- Loreza came and said,
what's with this girl?

- If he has a girlfriend,
then she needs to understand

he's hooking up with everyone
in Charleston.

- Did you hook up with Whitney?

- No.
- Never?

- Absolutely not.
- OK, never.

- Never.

Never kissed him, nothing.

I never touched him, anything.

- OK.

- Way after the fact,
Whitney was like,

look, you know
I know you and love you,

and I have love for Taylor.

I know she's in over her head.

And this is
a byproduct of that.

And I was like, well, yeah,
that's exactly what it is.

- But you used to tell her--

I hated, like,
when you guys dated,

and she would be excited
to send you a naked photo,

and you'd tell her not to.

- I'm weird about that.

I must admit.
- Really?

That's interesting.

- I hold my girlfriends
or someone serious to--

- To a different standard.

- I just--I don't want
to see her in that way.

That's my internal.
- I understand. OK.

- So you just like them
from strangers.

[laughter]

- I'll validate you, Shep.

My husband's like that' too.

Like, he doesn't like any nudes
in his phone--

- Right, because you're the
mother of his--

- Yeah, yeah.
- I don't know.

It's different for everybody.
- Yeah.

- Oh.

- JT, do you know anything?

Because you're, like, huffing
and puffing over there.

- I just can't believe Shep
doesn't like receiving nudes

and can't make a girl come.

[laughter]

- Hey.
- Jesus Christ.

- Let me put together
a list of satisfied customers

for you, JT.
- I'm sure that we're--

- And repeat customers.
- "Customers." Wow.

- Taylor, at JT's dinner,
why did you go after

Madison instead of Whitney,

considering he's the one
who showed everyone?

- I was addressing Whitney,
and Madison stepped in.

- There was a picture that
was sent out to you that you

could not see anything.

- I saw your tits and vagina.

- Did you?

- And I saw, "Come one,
come all" was the caption.

- You cannot see anything.

It's not an explicit photo.

- Yeah, but Taylor,
I don't want

to throw you under the bus,

but I saw the text.

- What did it say?

- Well, it was like--

- There's a photo of me

and it said,
"Come one, come all."

And then there was a picture.

And it said, "Is this like
what you're looking for?"

- The nude of you?

- Correct.

- Well, I mean,
I saw the whole thread.

* *

[tense music]

- Don't want to throw you

under the bus,
but I saw the text.

- Why? What did it say?

- Well, it was like--

- There was a photo of me

and it said,
"Come one, come all."

And then there was a picture.

And it said, "Is this like
what you're looking for?"

- I mean,
I saw the whole thread,

and it was not that.

I saw you saying, like,
"Come eff me in Nashville"

or something.
- Whoa. What?

- Yeah.
- Like, underneath that, like--

- I heard that one too.

- Come fuck me in Nashville?

- Yeah, or something.
Like, I don't need--

- When was I in Nashville?

- Were there multiple DMs
over multiple occasions?

- No, not to my recollection.

I have deleted every
message with Whitney.

- It was just like--it was
Whitney kind of like LOL-ing

and then him being like,
is this you?

And then you were, like,
it's a girl that your friend

used to, like,
stick his dick in.

- Did Whitney show them to you?

- I asked him why he'd
shown the guys and, like,

why he would have--you know.

And he was like, well,
I really wasn't trying to.

I just was embarrassed.

And I, you know,
basically, like--

- Oh, he was hammered
and was bragging about it.

It sucks that he's not here
to answer for it because he is

the bad guy in this situation,
except that you were,

like, sexting with
one of Shep's friends,

which I think was weird.

- When you're going
through an emotional,

just like your head,
I've been--

I mean, I've been divorced.

Like, I know

there is some grace
that needs to be given

to people who are grieving.

- You cannot put that
on Shep what she did.

I'm so tired of you
saying that.

- I made a mistake,
but I never say

because of Shep, I did this.

I'm very capable
of my own actions.

- They'll say it for you.

- By the way, Shep,
you seem to feel

a lot of guilt
about Taylor's behavior.

- I do.

I brought her into this
crazy world, you know.

- Has she changed?

- Not because of the show,
because of the breakup.

- You guys kind of talk
about her like she's a child.

Like, to say that
you were responsible

for a 30-year-old's action
is kind of like concei--

like, that's nuts.

- Well, by the way,
Haley from Brooklyn

said Shep saying it's his fault
Taylor is acting this way

is robbing Taylor
of her agency.

- I take great pride
in her development,

and I always will--
her happiness.

- That's not the point.
- What's the point?

- OK.
- What is the point?

- Taylor, do you to say
what the point is?

- You can't take responsibility
for how I was acting.

I don't think that that's--
- OK.

- I'm responsible
for how I acted and--

- I'm just empathetic,
sympathetic.

I'm sorry.
- I know.

- Well, in happier news,
Taylor,

you have a new boyfriend.
- Mm-hmm.

- He's great.

Actually, TJ's roommate.

So I met him through TJ.
But he's awesome.

He's great. He's normal.
[laughs]

- TJ from
"Southern Hospitality"?

- Yes. Yeah.

- Is he the first person you've
dated seriously since Shep?

- Mm-hmm.

- How long have
you been dating?

- Mm, four months.

- You know him, Leva?
- Yeah.

He's a really nice guy.

- Shep, have you met him?

- For 5 minutes at BravoCon.

- 5 minutes?
- Yeah.

I said, I wish you
all the best.

And she's awesome.

And good for you, and...

- That's it. Yeah.
- OK.

- But Rodrigo told me that
at BravoCon

that you guys were fighting.

- I heard that too, that he
upset her greatly at BravoCon.

- Did he upset you at BravoCon?

- He was upset that
Shep came up to me,

smacked me on the ass
as we're standing at the bar.

And I, in that moment,
didn't know what to do

and how to react
because my ex-boyfriend is

meeting my current boyfriend
for the first time.

- I don't remember that at all.

- Did you slap her in your
ass--in the ass?

- It's not how
I say hello to Taylor.

- Well, were you drunk?

- Yes.

- Well, so then, how can you
even know what you did?

- I don't.

I have no excuses, Andy.

- Um, you told me
at the beginning of the day

that there was
something on your mind

that you wanted to say
to the group.

You seem a little defeated,
buddy.

- No, no.
- You OK?

- No, yes, I'm OK.

I have something to say.

It's a little verbose.
- OK.

- But I'd love to go
on a little ramble.

- OK, we'll do it.
- OK.

- I think this is a great time
for you to say

whatever it is you want to say.

- OK, guys,
I'm glad you're all here.

I--this is sort of a mea culpa.

Um...

I'm at a crossroads.

Um, I--you know,

BravoCon was sort of
the impetus.

I was out of control,
drunk in Las Vegas,

and don't remember a bunch.

And it scared
the shit out of me.

And I'm, like, really scared.

So, um, I--I had a--

and I had a talk
with my close friends

back in Charleston,
you know, and like--

- Dial back, because I know

the answer to this,
unfortunately,

but can you explain what
happened to you at BravoCon?

- No, I can't, because I was
blacked out, you know.

I was drinking margaritas.

Then we had to do
"Watch What Happens Live."

I got to that and then
drank some more and more.

So I can't even tell you
what happened.

- Well, what happened is you
were blacked out all weekend.

- Basically, yes, yes.
- Right.

- The other thing that
I saw specifically at

"Watch What Happens Live"
was Austen,

who was really trying
to take care of you.

He was like, really trying
to make you presentable

in a way that you
didn't really realize

that he was even doing.

- I appreciate that.

- He was being
a real friend to you.

You should.

- I appreciate that.

- And that's not
the first time.

- I know.

- I'm not trying
to dump on you.

But when you asked us
to go to lunch,

that was to tell you a version
of what I'm telling you now.

- We're just saying why
we didn't go to that meeting.

- Well, wait, what meeting?

- So he said he went
around to talk

to the friends closest to us,
and we got that invite,

and I said no.

- You and Austen.

- They both said no.

- And you guys are
the only guys I can talk to.

Do you realize that?

You're the only one
that knows my reality.

- It's happened 17 times.

This road that you're on
ends with a cliff.

I can't be in that car anymore.

And that's why I didn't go
to that meeting.

We've all driven
with people, like,

reckless drivers were drunk.

And you're, like, fuck,

like, this guy
has nothing to lose.

And like, after BravoCon,
it's dark.

But I was like,
he's gonna ruin his life.

And I have to be OK with that
because, like,

we've been here before.

* *

[tense music]

- This road that you're on
ends with a cliff.

And like, after BravoCon,
it's dark,

but I was like,
he's gonna ruin his life.

And I have to be OK with that
because, like,

we've been here before.

- Then let's talk, man.

- But we've talked before.
- No.

- Shep.

- With me, like, open
to, like, buying you lunch.

- Because this isn't the
first time this has happened.

- Hey, guys,
you don't owe me anything.

Don't worry.

- We're not saying that.

- See?
That's the wrong note.

I'm your best friend
up here, man.

I have been there for you.

- You're the best friend
up here?

What the fuck?
What am I hearing?

What in the world?

- I would love your--
I would love your--

I would love your support
and help at any time, OK?

- I think they're saying that

they've been supporting you
and helping you,

and that they're
at the end of their rope.

- I--I hear you.

- But you have to put
some effort into it.

- I am.

- And like,
that is the first step,

what you just said.

No, you've never
said that before.

- Correct,
and I'm saying it right now.

I'm really in
a headspace of, like,

I need to make
some major changes.

All I can think of is,

sometimes you have
a million people around you

and you feel all alone,
you know.

And then you do things
that are shameful,

and shame and alienation are
a very dangerous cocktail.

- Shame is a really powerful
emotion, and it's horrible.

- It's awful.
- It's the worst.

- Yeah.
- Have you ever felt shame

to this degree?
- Not to this degree,

because I felt like,
"Oh, my God,

"like, you're hurting yourself
in ways--

It's like, you--I fancy myself
a smart, clever guy.

- Right.
- You know? And like,

are you?
Or are you just a fucking

worthless idiot?
- Right.

- And, um--and you're hurting
yourself, bro.

You know, and

after the last
month and a half,

like, the music stopped, right?

And you know, these boys
have their podcast.

Craig has his pillows.

I just didn't have anything.

And I thought, who am I?

And like, how am I
of value to anybody?

And I can't do--
it's physiological, Andy.

Like, I can't do the things
that I used to do.

- Right.

- I've been going hard,
pedal to the metal,

full throttle, but my body
and my mind together, I think,

are telling me what,
no, no, no, no, no, sir.

And so I'm listening
to my body and my mind.

And I'm mixing that with fear.

And I can't do it anymore,
the way I used to.

And that's a tough pill
to swallow,

because man, I was Mr. Fun Guy,
and I had a reputation

for being outrageous.

- Look, I sometimes miss it
too, but what I don't miss

is the feeling that
you're feeling now.

And so no matter how fun
a time ever was,

it's never worth that.

- Yeah, and I'm open about it.

But yeah, maybe you've been
unwilling to really let down

every--all the curtains
kind of thing.

- Well, you're talking
about your drinking.

- Yeah.

- What I'm not
understanding is,

what are you doing about it?

Did you quit drinking?

- No.

I just don't drink liquor.

I don't take shots.

And I just drink beer,
basically.

And I just feel like--

- I feel like
I've heard you say...

- No.

- Drinking beer before.

- I haven't drank liquor
in two years,

but then I had to make
a massive change this summer.

And now I really don't really
drink because, you know,

I'm an addict to that stuff.

And like, watching you
do it was sad.

- I hear you.

- I love you, and I'm sorry,
and I don't--

I hate saying that stuff,

but it seems like
you're open to your lead.

- I'm following your lead,
Craig.

- I love everything
that you just said

because I was asked,

is there anything Shep could do
to salvage your friendship?

And I said,
everything and anything.

I said, if he does
one thing, I'm there.

Like, I love good Shep.

- I know.

- And I was like,
all he has to do is

turn off this road,
but he's too proud to do it.

- I've lost all my pride,
is what I'm trying to say.

- Taylor, what's your reaction?

- Um, it makes me happy
to hear all this.

Despite popular belief of
what people see Shep as,

I know the real Shep.

He's an incredible,
kind, smart human being.

And sometimes
he might feel empty,

and he overcompensates
and tries to cover it up

by acting like an idiot.

- Well, she used to say, like,
you think you're a rock star.

And I was like,
I guess I kind of do.

And the changes that I'm
making, she wanted me to make.

And I'm a year late.

So I screwed that up too.

- You're not
a bad person, Shep.

- Venita, what's your reaction?

- One, it takes a lot to be
willing to admit something

on such a large stage.

And for him to say it
now, with the years

that he's been doing it,
he's been feeling it

for a really long time.

So it's also very sad to just
know that these are thoughts

that he's been having.

I'm happy to hear that
he wants to get help.

But I also think it is a nice
idea to think that you could

be Craig and cut
the alcohol out slowly,

but you got to cut it out
completely

in order to actually have
a true change of self, I think.

- Thanks.

- Yeah.

- You're gonna need
to want something more.

Craig wants
something else more.

You know what I mean?

Like, drinking is fun.

Eating a ton of chocolate
is fun, or, like,

fucking everybody might be fun.

But the whole point is, like,
you need to find that thing

that you want more--

if it's marrying Taylor,
if it's a career,

like all the things,
so that you don't want to get

blasted, because you're bored
out of your mind, you know?

- Well, it also may
be that you want

to continue this more because
you may be at a precipice

where it's not a--

- Healthy environment.
- Yeah.

- Maybe you need
do it in--yeah.

- Look, I'm gonna--stay tuned.

- Right. Good.

- I think I can do it.

I appreciate your support
in advance, everybody.

- Well, it seems like
you do have a lot

of support in this group.

- Oh, yeah.

Thank you to everybody.

* *

- OK.

We're gonna take a break,

and we'll be right back.

- Thanks for letting me say
what I need to say.

- Yeah. Good job, buddy.

- Yeah? Was it too raw?

- No, no, no, no, no,
it was great.

I mean, you really
have to relitigate

your relationship with alcohol.
- I know. I know.

- I am...
- I know, my friend.

- It's the right response.

Coming up...

She's done something...
- To a friend.

- Had a hookup one time.

And I wanted to take it
to my grave.

Like, who wouldn't?

[light tense music]

- [trilling lips]

- You OK?
- Yeah. Yeah.

I--I wanted to say those
things to you privately.

- I know. I appreciate that.

I'm happy for you. I am.

- [laughs] Just, I'm--I'm not.

- All right, everybody,
let's settle in.

Andy, I'm about
to send it to you.

Three, two...

- All right, I want to talk
about what got you here.

You spent time with
Austen in Australia.

Did you guys have fun?

- Yeah, I mean,
an absolute blast.

It was--I mean,
you wouldn't believe me

with everything that's,
you know, transpired.

- What kind of hurts
looking back in Australia

is we had a lot
of moments where

we could have talked and...
- Yeah.

- If Austen had said
in Australia,

"Dude, I got to tell you
something.

"Taylor and I,
we've slept in the same bed.

We made out."

How would you have
been with that?

- I would have been like,
"Thank you for being honest."

And I would have had
to try to process it.

- Do you feel bad about this?

- Yeah.
- You do.

- I am sorry for that, Shep.

- Did you think that it
wasn't gonna come out?

- I just thought that since
it was such like a non-factor--

yes, that I thought,
that I was like,

nothing came of it.

And you know, it's like--
it's not going anywhere.

- But here's what is
a potential problem,

is on this season,
he said, "Oh, man,

"Shep wouldn't even
have got with Taylor

if I had gotten to the bar
before he met her."

- You said since the first day

that Shep and Taylor
got together

that you guys have had
sexual tension.

- I did not say that.
You are making that up.

- At the Commodore, you said
"If Shep didn't take her home,

I would've."
- Oh, that day.

- Ooh.
- You said that.

- And you know how arrogant
it is to be, like,

"If I got to her first, bro,
you guys never would have

fallen in love
and spent 2 1/2 years."

- I want to know what the women
think about that comment.

- I believe Austen.

I think if he would have
gotten to Taylor first,

they would have been together.

- Oh, you do?

- Yes, I do.
- Olivia?

- That probably should've been
how it went down.

And that's why at the end
of all this mess, I was like,

they should try it out now.

I mean, why not?

When it's all this much
of a shit show, like,

why not give it a shot?

- What do you think?
- No.

- No.
- I was very much so

interested in Shep.

He captivated me one--
a million times over.

- Wow.
- Shep.

- Thank you.

- I think the big thing
for this friend group

is that you're thinking about,

like, what happened
in the moment,

whereas we're all thinking
about how you friended--

was so messed up,
you continued to lie

to these two people
the entire time.

It makes all of us want to
step back from you both.

That's the problem.

- And that's a rat.
- Right?

- That's a snake, right?
- Yes.

- So that's what it is.

- And you agree, Taylor?

- 100%.

- I understand
the severity of hurting

a friend, of hurting an ex.

- But see you guys both
keep saying the problem

was that it hurts someone.

What we're saying is,
the problem was

that you had
this sexual desire,

and instead of saying
no, no, no, no, no,

I shouldn't even go touch,
like, close to that.

- It was wrong.

- But it's not even
the action that's the problem.

- Well, they're saying
it's the cover-up.

- Not only cover up, but then
to try to then make it like

it's our fault for not
understanding that it was just

like a drunken moment after you
had lied so many fucking times

to my face, then to expect me
to, like,

hop on the forgiveness wagon.

And because I didn't,
y'all proceeded to say, like,

"Oh, I'm just
so tired of this."

Of course you're
fucking tired of this.

Y'all are in this sh-it bed
that you made.

That's where the problem
is for me.

- Never tried to say

that you were the problem
or anything.

- Yes, you did.

Every conversation we had--
- Olivia, every--

- Shut up.

You called Austen and said,
I was well within my rights.

Turned to Shep and said,

I don't know what
the big deal is.

I'm the kissing bandit.

Go to Jamaica.

Tell someone, like,
they didn't even date.

So you were just
constantly thinking,

like, you're just really
trying to drag this out.

Like, no, I wasn't.

- I'm just saying,
Olivia, like,

forgive as you'd want
to be forgiven.

- I--I'm--

- Forgive as you want
to be forgiven.

- Forgive as you would want
to be forgiven.

- Go ahead and say it.

I already see
what you're trying to do.

- Oh, it's already
been out there.

- No, no, no,
you've been hanging this

over my head--
I want to see it.

Say it.
- So you're--

so, basically,
the implication there

is that she's done something...

- To a friend.

- To a friend.
- And a confidant.

- And a confidant.

- Well, just say it now.

I mean, we're here.

- The whole Thomas situation.

- Thomas Ravenel?

- Yeah.

I was fresh out of college,
20 years old, dumb,

drunken night one time,
had a hook-up...

- With T Rav?

- With T Rav.

- Wow.

- Jesus.

- And I wanted to take it
to my grave.

Like, who wouldn't?

- [laughs]

- And Madison called it out
last year.

- I think Thomas
and Olivia, right?

- Me?

Yeah, me having sex
with Thomas?

- Yeah, that was
so fucking random.

- Did you date Thomas?

- No.
He's like a family friend.

* *

- And right afterwards,
I sat down with Taylor,

and I said, "I appreciate
you taking up for me,

but you should know
something did happen."

And she's the only person
I told on Earth about that.

And here you are
sitting here now

trying to use it against me.

- On Earth?

- But let me ask you
a question.

What does she need
to be forgiven for

for hooking up with T Rav?

- I mean, same situation.

Kathryn is a friend.
- What?

- Friend and confidant.

And then, yeah,
you lied about it.

So, like, why didn't you
go to Kathryn?

Say I'm sorry.

- Because she was embarrassed.

- I didn't know Kathryn then.

I met Kathryn
after it happened.

- You told me it
was five years ago.

- Was after baby number two.

- Was she with Thomas
at the time?

- I have no idea.

I do not believe so.

- OK.

Then why is it so bad?

- Because she's just
been sitting there

chomping at the bit
to use it against me.

- I have not been
chomping at the bit.

- Not only have
you proven yourself

to be a shit friend,
you're a shit human too.

- Yeah, that's pretty
dishonest, though.

- We're gonna leave it there.

We are gonna take a break.

- Can you imagine?

- Fucking cunt.

[dramatic music]

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- Next week, the season 9
reunion continues.

Welcome, Rod and Rodrigo.

- What did you call it, JT?
Fuckboy exorcism?

- Yes.
- Yeah.

- You told Austen to just
throw your bra away?

- Because it was
probably beige.

[laughter]
- Yeah.

[phone ringing]
- Sorry.

- Nine years.
- Nine years.

- I know.

- I'm not gonna go
tell my mama

I'm considering dating somebody

if I'm not fucking them--
I'm sorry.

- [chuckles] Oh.

- Craig, you have not really
held him that accountable.

- You would think I should
just cut him out of my life?

- Don't hide behind the fact
that you just called yourself

a gentleman 38 times.

No one knows what a piece
of shit that you are.

- So were you and Austen
on vacation together?

- You could say that.
- Yes.

- Do you give Austen a pass
and not Taylor?

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