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{\an8}[♪ suspenseful music]
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{\an8}[Scott] A man walksinto the appliance repair shop.
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Mark Chynoweth
is in there by himself.
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[♪ intense music]
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And the killer opens fire.
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[gunshots]
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[music continues]
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Simultaneously, Eddie Marston
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is at a house
in an Irving neighborhood.
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A black Silverado pickup truckpulls up, a guy gets out...
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[♪ music continues]
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Shoots Eddie Marston dead.
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[♪ music continues]
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While those two murders
are happening,
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a black Silverado pickup truckpulls up on Rena Street.
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[♪ music continues]
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Gunman gets out...
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[♪ music continues]
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Shoots Duane Chynowethdead in the driveway.
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[gunshot]
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[gunshots]
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[Lindsay]
Sitting in the pickup truck
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is eight-year-old
Jenny Chynoweth,
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who just witnessed
her father being murdered.
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[Scott] The little girl,Jennifer, starts screaming.
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[muffled screaming]
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The killer reaches inthrough the window
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and just shoots her
point-blank range in the head.
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[gunshot]
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[♪ music continues]
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[tires squealing]
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[♪ unsettling string music]
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This was the first time
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in all of the years
I lived with Mark and Lillian
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I did not have to go
to work sick.
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But I was gonna haveto stay home
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and take care of the kids.
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[♪ suspenseful music]
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[Emily]
Like a typical summer day,
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I'm home with my siblings
in Houston,
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12 years old. School's out.
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Was outside playing basketball,
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and the phone was ringing.
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[telephone ringing]
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{\an8}And it was one of the men
that worked for Mark.
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And he's like, "Anna,are you and the kids okay?"
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I was like, yes.
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And he's like, "There's
a truck and a car coming.
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They'll be at your house
any minute.
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Get the children,
gather them up,
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and you get in the cars
as quickly as you can."
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[♪ music continues]
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The energy
just leaves your body,
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and your knees are shaking.
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Everything just starts shaking.
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[♪ music continues]
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I came in, and I said,
"Well, you know, what happened"?
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She told me that,
"Now I just need you to listen
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and do what I'm saying".
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I-I knew instantly.
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[stutters] This was, like,
the dreaded day.
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{\an8}I thought, my dad's dead.
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{\an8}I have that awareness, too,
that this was probably our dad.
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{\an8}[crying] I just remember
just, like, hitting my knees
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{\an8}and just praying
that nothing was happening,
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{\an8}you know, to Dad. Like, God,
please protect my dad.
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Please don't let this be.
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I gathered up the kids
as quickly as I could.
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I start, you know,
getting them out the door.
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[♪ music continues]
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I have no idea what's going on,
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but my worst nightmares,
I know, are coming true.
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[reporter] In Texas,four people were murdered
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in separate attackswithin 15 minutes.
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In Houston,Mark Chynoweth was shot dead
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behind the counterof his secondhand store.
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We do not know
what the motive for it is.
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We have been told
by several persons
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that, uh, he was a member
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of some type
of a fraternal organization.
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Three middle-class
businessmen,
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one innocent
eight-year-old child,
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{\an8}all killed in the same day,
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{\an8}all killed about the same time,
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{\an8}all shot by weapons
of destructive caliber.
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Even in Houston, which has
more than its fair share
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of homicides, this is...
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this is different.
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These murders get dubbed
"The 4 o'clock Murders."
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The press picks it up.
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And June 27 at 4 o'clock
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is not just any timefor Mormons.
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{\an8}It's the exact time
Mormon founder
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{\an8}and prophet Joseph Smith
was killed in Carthage Jail
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{\an8}by an angry mob.
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The homicides, all three,
were very well organized.
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{\an8}And they almost
always wanna make sure
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{\an8}the victim was at some place
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{\an8}where they felt comfortable
or normal.
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These are assassinations.
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[Scott] They were carryingthese murders out
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in broad daylight.
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What the killersdecided to do was,
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they would all wear
matching disguises,
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and they would all havethe same stolen pickup truck
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that they would be driving.
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So, if there were eyewitnesses,and there were,
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{\an8}all the descriptions
would perfectly match.
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Somebody had really
thought this thing through
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and really planned.
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[♪ music continues]
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[Lindsay]
So now police are left with,
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who would have come up
with such a coordinated
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and complex plot to executethese men at the same time?
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[♪ dramatic music]
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[Anna] They bring all the kidsto this friend's house.
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Nobody will tell me
what's going on,
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and I'm like, "Can you please
tell me what's going on?"
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We have to just wait.
You have to just wait.
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[Emily] It was actuallythe pastor of our church,
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his wife gathered us togetherin this friend's living room,
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just said it really straight
to all of us.
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"I hate to tell you kids,
but your dad's dead."
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And there was just, like...
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[voice breaking] Just this,just horrible, like, wailing.
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To this day,
that sound never leaves.
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[voice breaking]
I knew that I didn't want Celia
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to find out about Mark
from anyone else but me.
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[♪ music continues]
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{\an8}She says, "Celia,
Mark has been shot."
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{\an8}[inhales sharply]
And my knees just grow weak,
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and I lose it.
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[♪ music continues]
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And then we find out that Duane
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and his little daughter Jenny
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and our half-brother Ed
were also murdered.
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[Scott] When police talkedto the families,
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they started figuringout the connection.
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They learnedabout this hit list.
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They had a sense
of who was behind this.
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[♪ music continues]
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We knew,
and no one had to tell us.
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- No one had to tell us. Yeah.
- We didn't have to ask.
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It was other parts
of our family.
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- Other people that we loved...
- [Anna] Mm-hmm.
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Were killing
these precious humans...
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- that we adored.
- [Anna] Mm-hmm, yeah.
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This time, when the authorities
and the police
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are asking me to name names
and identify people...
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[♪ music continues]
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I was able to say who I knew
and what I knew.
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I didn't have to say,
I don't know.
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We knewthey were blood atonements.
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They were carrying out
our-our father's revelations
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from The Book
of the New Covenant.
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[♪ music continues]
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Chynoweth and Marston families
were devout followers
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of Ervil LeBaron.
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But apparently they defected,
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a sin, according
to LeBaron religious doctrine.
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Some people close to that sect
would say that on June 27th,
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they were punished
for their sin.
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[♪ music continues]
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After they had interviewed
the Chynoweth family,
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there were people that they
suspected of being involved,
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specifically the group
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called the Kingdom of Godon Earth, the KOG,
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that's run by Heber LeBaron,
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along with his brother Aaronin Mexico.
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Law enforcement was puzzledby these four murders in Texas.
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They needed more information
in order to understand
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how this could happen
the way it happened.
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And being the lead Assistant
U.S. Attorney at the time,
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it became my responsibility
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to coordinate thingsfrom here.
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It was a really tough case.
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Houston PD did not have
a lot of evidence to work with,
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no fingerprints,
no positive identifications.
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They were getting nowhere.
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[Lindsay] They knewwho'd ordered the murders,
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but they couldn't arrest him,
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because Ervil LeBaron
had been dead
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for over seven years.
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{\an8}[♪ dramatic music]
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After Mark died,
we all got to go home,
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{\an8}me and the children--
to be with Lillian at our house.
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{\an8}We know that it's possible
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{\an8}that somebodycould come after her, too.
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{\an8}There was
a very compelling belief
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{\an8}that my mother, Lillian,
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{\an8}was supposed to be killed
the same day,
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that they would come back
and kill her.
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And because a childhad been killed,
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would more children be killed?
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We were absolutely terrified.
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{\an8}And there's a SWAT team
surrounding our house.
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Um, they had installedmotion-detection lighting.
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We could not go outside at all.
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[♪ music continues]
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And I'm at the iron downstairs,
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helping get the clothesready for the funeral.
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And all of a sudden...
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all the lights go outin the house,
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and we are left in pitch-dark.
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{\an8}When the lights went out,
it felt like,
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{\an8}"Wait a minute,
the security's failed".
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[Emily] Yeah.
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We were in the pitch-black,
just crawling.
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[♪ music continues]
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[Anna] I'm scrambling around.
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I find Celia, and we're like--
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[Celia]
We go hide in the bathtub.
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[Anna] We go hidein the bathtub.
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We make ourselvesas small as we can.
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[Celia] Barely breathing.
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[Anna] We're just shakingwith fear,
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thinking, somebody's going to
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come in here and shoot me.
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I thought people were gonna
burst in--
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Burst in and murder us,
for sure.
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[♪ suspenseful music]
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[Anna] Time passes.
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And then all of a sudden,
the lights come back on.
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And it was faulty wiring
with the motion detectors.
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{\an8}[♪ music continues]
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{\an8}After the 4 o'clock murders,
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{\an8}we were still in Denver,
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{\an8}and we were...
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{\an8}still trying to live our lives,
we were...
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{\an8}but we knew my mom, Anna Mae,
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{\an8}was on that hit list.
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{\an8}So, at the age of 13,
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I was given a gun.
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[♪ music continues]
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Whenever my mom
answered the door,
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I was to aim that gun
out the living-room window.
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And if it was
any of my siblings,
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if you saw anybody draw a gun,
you were to pull the trigger.
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[♪ music continues]
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[Hyrum] It was understood,there was probably gonna be
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somebody comingtrying to kill us, so
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you have to shoot first.
You shoot to kill.
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{\an8}We were petrified, we thought
they would come
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{\an8}and kill us at any moment.
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And they knew where
all of our homes were,
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'cause they were living with us.
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{\an8}We were like,
"We have to get out of town.
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We have to leave Denver".
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The map was spread out, andthere was these conversations
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going back and forthabout where we should go.
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But nobody really had
any real-world experience
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of anywhere else.
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I had heard about Oregon before,
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and it sounded really
cool to me. So I was like,
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"We should go to Oregon".
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It seemed far enough away
to be safe,
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and nobody would expect it
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because that's nowhere
we'd ever lived before.
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Pretty soon, the decision wasmade, we're going to Oregon.
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We had a huge caravan.
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We all left
in the middle of the night.
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Our homes
were completely intact.
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We took a few clothes,a few things, and left.
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[Anna] Do you know that after
the 4 o'clock murders happened,
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I had to start
carrying a gun, too?
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I didn't know that.
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[Anna] I was working
in the appliance shop,
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and I carried a gun to work.
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I remember the feeling
of the heaviness of it
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in my pocket.
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I remember driving back.
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After Mark was killed,
I had to go back into the shop.
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And so they said,
"It hasn't been cleaned up yet".
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[Celia] Oh! How many days after?
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Like, the next day.
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- Oh, no, really?
- [Anna] It was like...
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[breathes deeply]
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The carpet
still had his blood on it.
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[distant siren wailing]
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[♪ intense continues]
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[Emily] The day of the funeral,
the emphasis was
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not on grieving their loss.
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It was on survival.
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It was a terrorizing event.
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Fear had gripped everyone.
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[reporter]
The victims were all members
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of the Chynoweth family.
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They'd been linked withseveral murders themselves,
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{\an8}but they'd left the LeBaronchurch to start a new life
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{\an8}away from the violence.
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{\an8}Using the past example
of the Rulon Allred funeral,
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{\an8}designed to lure Verlanto his death,
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{\an8}the authorities were
really worried that
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{\an8}that the same thing
could happen with the,
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{\an8}with the Chynoweth
and the Marston funerals.
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{\an8}There are some
who aren't here,
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{\an8}who would like to be here.
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{\an8}They're concerned
for their safety.
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- [man] Your brother Victor?
- Yes.
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- [man] Your sister Rena?
- Yes.
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[♪ music continues]
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There was a perimeter created
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around where we were gonna
bury our loved ones.
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[Celia] They were protectingus from anybody else
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that might wanna take out
more hits during the gathering.
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There were snipers
in the trees.
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There were friends of mine
who didn't come to the funeral
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and told me,
"I'm very sorry, I can't go
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to your dad's funeral.
I'm afraid I'm gonna be killed".
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There's an overarching
sense of just terror.
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The boogeyman is really big.
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Anywhere, anytime, you don't
really know what or why.
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[♪ music continues]
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Right after the funeral,
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literally within 24 hours,we had to be packed and ready
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and were whisked awayby the FBI
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into Witness Protection.
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They changed
our last name to DeVeaux,
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and that we had to be
very careful.
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We couldn't tell
anyone where we were.
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We couldn't hardly ever leave.
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And our mother,she had lost everything.
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She had losther whole community,
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her support structure,
her family.
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She was spiraling
into just a depressive state.
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[Lisa] My dad was such a rock...
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I mean, for her, for us...
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- [Emily] Mm-hmm.
- For our community.
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That loss was really
incalculable.
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And I think it's something that,
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um, you know, honestly,
she just never recovered from.
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[♪ intense music]
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[camera shutter clicks]
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{\an8}[David] We have four murders.
These weren't random killings.
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{\an8}They were
targeted assassinations.
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Law enforcementhad a pretty good idea
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Heber and Aaron did this,
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but they didn't havethe necessary evidence
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to prove it.
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And then not longafter the murders,
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there was a development
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that proved
to be very important.
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{\an8}[♪ intense music]
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{\an8}[Lindsay] Police in Arizona geta tip that this group of people
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are stayingin this dingy motel,
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acting a little suspicious.
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{\an8}And when police arrive,
they find this group
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{\an8}of clean-cut kids
driving stolen cars.
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As police dig throughthe cars for evidence,
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they find a copyof a newspaper
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reporting on
the 4 o'clock murders
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the day after it had happened.
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There's also a mapof the Houston area.
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Rena Street is circled
right in the middle...
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the street where Duane
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and his eight-year-olddaughter Jenny were murdered.
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There were a number
of other things,
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like what appeared
to be disguises.
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The stuffthat was in these trucks
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was pretty good
circumstantial evidence
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that these people
had something to do with
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what had gone on in Texas.
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[Lindsay] The police arrestedthem on auto-theft charges.
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And one of the men...
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happens to be Heber LeBaron.
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[reporter] Authorities sayit wasn't until a week later
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whena Phoenix investigator called
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the Houston Police Department
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that they realizedwho they had.
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Investigators began
talking to one another
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and put together some details
that were similar,
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both in Houston and in Phoenix.
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And it was that type
of information yesterday
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that, uh, led our investigators
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to believe that the people
that we already had in custody
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could, in fact, be involved
in some cases in Houston.
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I've been a prosecuting
attorney for over 40 years.
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{\an8}I was called to the office
of the United States Attorney,
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who had a case that they would
like us to handle for them,
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and this turned out
to be the LeBaron case.
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[Lindsay] So, as they startpiecing together
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this terrifying LeBaron puzzle,
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they think that Heberis the leader
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of the 4 o'clockassassinations.
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{\an8}But the problem is, they're
having a very difficult time
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{\an8}putting together
a case to try him
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and other members of the KOG.
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[distant siren wailing]
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[Scott] The big problemwith the case was,
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you have these murders
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where they match up
in almost every way.
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It's like one killer
had cloned himself or herself,
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{\an8}acted in three places
at the exact same moment.
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{\an8}And in American law,
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{\an8}you have to know
which one did which murder.
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{\an8}[♪ dramatic music]
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The police knew, the FBI knew
who the three killers were.
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They were very confident
that the killers were Heber...
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[♪ music continues]
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{\an8}Richard LeBaron...
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and Doug Barlow.
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What they couldn't do
was match up
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which of those three
had done which murder.
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And if you can't do that, you
can't bring somebody to trial.
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[♪ music continues]
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[Terry] What did we have?We had nothing.
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No one can put them there
at the time,
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no person to put them in Texas
at the time,
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no person to put them,
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you know, acquiring
these things, really.
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And even then, if you could
put them acquiring the things,
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how could you relate the things
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to the actual event?
You couldn't.
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You can think
you've got the right people,
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but you still have
to meet the standard.
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You have to prove things
beyond a reasonable doubt
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when you get to trial.
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But in Arizona,
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officials aren't having
a hard time at all
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building a pretty solid
auto-theft case.
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[judge speaking indistinctly]
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[Scott] When they get bustedon the auto-theft charges,
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they make the decision
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to-to plead out,
to plead guilty to them.
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My feeling is they do it because
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you'll get a lesser sentenceby pleading guilty,
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rather than going to trial.
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And then maybe you sort of
fall off the radar down the road
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of, on these murders you did.
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So I think that for a lot
of strategic reasons,
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they-they-they thought,
"Okay, let's just plead out".
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[♪ intense music]
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[Lindsay] You've gotHeber LeBaron and Doug Barlow
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sentenced to 10 years,
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and Richard LeBaronis sentenced to
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three and a half years,because he's a minor.
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But in 1988,
it was pretty common
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for convicts to serve halfthe time sentence or even less.
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So they were still a threat.
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{\an8}[♪ music continues]
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{\an8}Before Mark died,
I had already been accepted
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into a college.
I was so excited.
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After Mark died
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and the 4 o'clock murders
happened,
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{\an8}there was a big discussion
among the administration.
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They thought that if the parents
found out who I was
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that they would unenrolltheir children
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if they didn't thinkthey were safe.
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They told meif I changed my name
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and swear that I was not going
to reveal who I was
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to any of the students,
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they would let me come.
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It was a very weighty
decision for me,
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especially because I knew
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how muchLillian depended on me.
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But at the same time,I felt like
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I had to move on with my life.
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So I told Lillian
that I had made the decision
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that I wanted to go ahead
and continue my education
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and go to college.
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And she was supportiveof that.
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I mean, it was hard to leave
the children behind...
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you know, Emily and Lisa
and the other kids,
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because I was so close to them
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and I was so, um,involved in their lives.
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But I felt like I was doing
the right thing.
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During this time where
my mother was really suffering,
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{\an8}her life as she had known it
had collapsed.
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{\an8}And I think that as strong
as my mother was, of course,
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{\an8}there was just an alonenessat that time
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that just can't be overstated.
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I remember that morning.
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I got up and went to check
on the laundry.
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And my momwas standing in there.
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She turned around,and she was crying.
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And then I said, "Mom,
I just wanna let you know,
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we're gonna be okay, that
I really feel like, you know,
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God's going to take care of us
and we're gonna...
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we're gonna be okay."
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[♪ mellow music]
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And I hugged her.I went back to bed.
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And, I mean, it was really
only minutes later,
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I heard the sound of
what, you know,
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you know is a gunshot sound.
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And then...
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[♪ music continues]
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I just, I knew she was gone.
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[crying] I just remember
thinking, I can't believe
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our whole life is turned
so upside down.
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[sniffles]
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[Anna] When Lilliantook her own life...
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I remember just being shocked.
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It was like losing your mom.
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The tragedy
of Lillian's suicide
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is that
she was just one in a list
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of many former followers
who took their own lives.
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Three years after testifying
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against his own fatherin court...
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Isaac LeBarondied by suicide as well.
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{\an8}[♪ suspenseful continues]
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[telephone ringing]
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[David] In this period after,
503
00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:10,365
the murder case in Houston
had cooled off some.
504
00:24:11,992 --> 00:24:13,785
Leads had been exhausted.
505
00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:16,830
All the people that could havebeen talked to were talked to,
506
00:24:16,913 --> 00:24:20,292
but it really wasn't leading
to anything specific.
507
00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:24,087
{\an8}[Lindsay] Police have Heberin jail for auto theft...
508
00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:27,674
{\an8}but he's essentiallygotten away with murder.
509
00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:30,427
{\an8}Without a major break
510
00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:33,013
or someone from the KOG
coming forward,
511
00:24:33,388 --> 00:24:36,558
the murders are in danger
of never being solved.
512
00:24:36,641 --> 00:24:39,227
You don't prosecute
a Mafia don
513
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:42,981
without somebody
in the family turning
514
00:24:43,273 --> 00:24:45,817
{\an8}and giving evidence
against the Mafia don.
515
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,571
{\an8}It's the same thingwith this family.
516
00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:52,616
{\an8}They may be evena tougher nut to crack
517
00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:55,285
{\an8}because they're related by blood
518
00:24:55,368 --> 00:24:57,913
and they're relatedby this ideology
519
00:24:58,246 --> 00:25:01,875
that has vengeanceand violence at its core.
520
00:25:01,958 --> 00:25:04,461
What law enforcement
needed badly
521
00:25:04,669 --> 00:25:09,090
was someone on the inside
who could open the door.
522
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,760
[telephone ringing]
523
00:25:12,427 --> 00:25:15,847
The Utah detective
gets a phone call...
524
00:25:16,973 --> 00:25:19,309
from Cynthia LeBaron,
525
00:25:19,518 --> 00:25:21,728
who was down in Mexico.
526
00:25:22,145 --> 00:25:24,898
Cynthia is a daughterof Ervil LeBaron.
527
00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:27,692
Cynthia tells the detective
528
00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:31,613
that some things have happened
in, in Mexico,
529
00:25:31,696 --> 00:25:35,909
that she and her sisterwere afraid for their lives,
530
00:25:36,451 --> 00:25:38,495
that they would be willingto talk.
531
00:25:38,578 --> 00:25:41,122
She wants us
to meet her in Texas.
532
00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:43,542
This is a huge break
for law enforcement
533
00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:45,418
because she was part
of the group in Phoenix.
534
00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:48,797
They know she knows who did
what in the 4 o'clock murders.
535
00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:50,674
[♪ intense music]
536
00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:52,968
So Cynthia comes across.
537
00:25:53,051 --> 00:25:56,471
She's met by investigators
at the US-Mexican border.
538
00:25:56,805 --> 00:25:58,723
[♪ music continues]
539
00:25:58,974 --> 00:26:00,433
[David] Now, on the one hand,we thought
540
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,519
we're being set upfor an ambush.
541
00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:05,689
On the other hand, we thought,
"Well, maybe they're serious.
542
00:26:05,772 --> 00:26:07,649
We can't ignorethis possibility.
543
00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:09,234
We have to takeadvantage of it."
544
00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:12,362
That very same day,
they cut a deal.
545
00:26:12,445 --> 00:26:14,823
Anything she saysin this interview...
546
00:26:16,825 --> 00:26:18,618
will not be used against her.
547
00:26:18,702 --> 00:26:22,914
So, once she gets that promise,
she starts singing.
548
00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:24,874
[♪ music continues]
549
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,213
Cynthia and I were
best friends as little girls.
550
00:26:30,297 --> 00:26:34,217
Cynthia and her siblings
551
00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:36,595
lived with us in Ensenada.
552
00:26:36,678 --> 00:26:40,015
Their mother would go
to the US to work,
553
00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:43,393
and my mom helped raise
those children at the time.
554
00:26:43,476 --> 00:26:45,520
So we knew them very well.
555
00:26:46,938 --> 00:26:49,941
Cynthia admitted to her part
556
00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:53,320
in the plot
to kill the people in Texas.
557
00:26:55,155 --> 00:26:57,157
She admittedto keeping surveillance
558
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,950
on one of the victims.
559
00:26:59,034 --> 00:27:00,952
[Terry] Cynthiawas basically a lookout.
560
00:27:01,036 --> 00:27:03,747
She called Heber and said,
"He's there now."
561
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,707
[♪ music continues]
562
00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:08,293
[David] She knew all aboutthe plan, she was part of it.
563
00:27:08,376 --> 00:27:10,879
She described
who was assigned to do what,
564
00:27:10,962 --> 00:27:13,757
who was to kill Duane,who was to kill Mark,
565
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,634
who was to kill Ed.
566
00:27:16,718 --> 00:27:18,303
She not only names Heber
567
00:27:18,386 --> 00:27:20,388
and the other killers
in the 4 o'clock murders.
568
00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:23,308
She gives investigators
another piece of evidence,
569
00:27:23,391 --> 00:27:26,686
which is,
Aaron is in charge of the KOG.
570
00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:28,980
[♪ intense music]
571
00:27:30,231 --> 00:27:32,108
Heber is his hitman.
572
00:27:34,402 --> 00:27:36,780
And they had planned
the 4 o'clock murders
573
00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:38,573
for two years.
574
00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,368
[Scott]All along, law enforcement
575
00:27:41,451 --> 00:27:44,954
has been thinking
that Heber LeBaron
576
00:27:45,038 --> 00:27:47,916
was the one mighty and strong,
he is the leader of the cult.
577
00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,543
But in fact,
it was Aaron LeBaron
578
00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:52,754
who wasthe one mighty and strong.
579
00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:55,173
[♪ music continues]
580
00:27:55,715 --> 00:28:00,011
Basically, we learned
that Aaron is more like Ervil,
581
00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,180
in the sense that Aaron
582
00:28:02,889 --> 00:28:05,725
understands the religion
really, really, really well
583
00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:08,353
and is-is more hands off.
584
00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:12,607
[David] They were toldfrom the time they were born
585
00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:16,486
that they were the anointed,
that they were the exceptional,
586
00:28:16,569 --> 00:28:18,988
that they were the people
that were going to inherit
587
00:28:19,072 --> 00:28:20,990
the Kingdom of God on Earth
588
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:24,369
if they did the thingsErvil expected them to do.
589
00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:27,914
The information
that Cynthia had
590
00:28:27,997 --> 00:28:31,167
became extremely valuable
in multiple cases,
591
00:28:31,251 --> 00:28:33,586
including Dan Jordan's murder.
592
00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:38,216
{\an8}[David] Cynthia knew the planfor killing Dan Jordan.
593
00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:42,053
She knew who was communicating
to the people in Mexico
594
00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:43,847
to get it done.
595
00:28:45,265 --> 00:28:48,059
Cynthia told them
that the KOG purposely played
596
00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:50,895
on Dan's sympathies
to get in with the family.
597
00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:53,481
This really was a long con.
598
00:28:54,232 --> 00:28:57,360
While KOG members and Aaronare living with Dan Jordan,
599
00:28:58,069 --> 00:29:00,655
Heber's hiding outin Mexico for months,
600
00:29:00,989 --> 00:29:04,200
just waiting for the right time
and the right moment
601
00:29:04,325 --> 00:29:05,869
for Dan Jordan's murder.
602
00:29:07,704 --> 00:29:09,664
They knew the hunting tripwould be a time
603
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,666
that Dan would be isolated.
604
00:29:12,625 --> 00:29:15,795
Aaron tells Heberwhen and where they would be.
605
00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,131
Heber comes up from Mexico.
606
00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:20,550
Now he's hiding in the woods,lying in wait
607
00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:22,510
to kill Dan Jordan.
608
00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:23,928
[gunshot]
609
00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:25,305
Aaron orchestrated
610
00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:27,056
a near-perfect crime.
611
00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:30,769
Aaron was still out there
on the run,
612
00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:34,063
and the possibility
of him coming to kill you
613
00:29:34,147 --> 00:29:36,357
for one reason or another
still existed.
614
00:29:37,317 --> 00:29:40,945
But what we'd just been toldby Cynthia
615
00:29:41,237 --> 00:29:42,864
was a game changer.
616
00:29:42,947 --> 00:29:46,242
It was what we needed
to get a case prosecuted
617
00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:48,244
in Texas,
618
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:51,956
and Cynthia was taken intothe Witness Protection Program
619
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,127
almost immediately aftershe gave us this information.
620
00:29:56,211 --> 00:29:59,422
Even though Aaron
remains a fugitive on the lam,
621
00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:01,966
the Feds decideto go ahead and prosecute
622
00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:04,135
the remaining suspectsin custody.
623
00:30:04,219 --> 00:30:06,304
[♪ dramatic music]
624
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:10,016
But untilAaron is behind bars...
625
00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:12,435
the threat of violence
626
00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:14,229
is always in the back
of people's minds.
627
00:30:19,776 --> 00:30:21,778
{\an8}[♪ dramatic music]
628
00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:27,033
[Anna] For my birthday,
629
00:30:27,116 --> 00:30:28,910
Mark and Lillianhad purchased me...
630
00:30:28,993 --> 00:30:31,329
- a, um, hope chest.
- Hope chest, yeah.
631
00:30:31,412 --> 00:30:33,331
{\an8}Where I could begin planning
632
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:36,042
{\an8}for my future life
as a married woman.
633
00:30:37,585 --> 00:30:40,505
And so, when I had a boyfriendfor the very first time,
634
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:44,217
I strongly suspected that he was
going to ask me to marry him.
635
00:30:44,384 --> 00:30:46,594
And, you know, of course,
the answer was yes.
636
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,683
I was operating on probably
less than a shoestring budget.
637
00:30:52,934 --> 00:30:55,061
And Celiahad a friend of our family
638
00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:57,397
give me a beautiful dress.
639
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,440
I got to be her bridesmaid.
640
00:31:02,485 --> 00:31:04,571
[Anna] I had looked forward
to Lillian
641
00:31:04,654 --> 00:31:07,866
helping me plan my wedding
and looked forward to Mark
642
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,701
giving me away
on my wedding day.
643
00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:12,954
[Celia] Mark and Lillianwere very absent.
644
00:31:13,037 --> 00:31:15,206
[Anna] And Mark and Lillianwere very absent.
645
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:17,667
[♪ dramatic music]
646
00:31:18,167 --> 00:31:20,378
We were trying to move onwith our lives,
647
00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:22,881
but things from our past
648
00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:25,884
kept coming back
and kept coming back.
649
00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:28,052
It was still
in the back of our minds,
650
00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:30,388
- the KOG and the events and...
- [Anna] Yeah.
651
00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:32,557
That we could be in, you know,
there could be danger.
652
00:31:34,309 --> 00:31:36,352
{\an8}[♪ intense music]
653
00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:39,814
[reporter] The victimswere one-time followers
654
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,900
who dared break awayand were cut down
655
00:31:41,983 --> 00:31:43,526
in what is knownas a blood atonement.
656
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:45,278
This is howauthorities view that
657
00:31:45,361 --> 00:31:46,863
atonementin the indictment.
658
00:31:46,946 --> 00:31:49,282
Conspiracy to commit
murder for hire,
659
00:31:49,365 --> 00:31:51,034
interstate and foreign travel
660
00:31:51,117 --> 00:31:52,702
{\an8}for the purpose
of murder for hire.
661
00:31:52,785 --> 00:31:54,537
{\an8}Prosecutors believe
that they'll be able,
662
00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:56,789
{\an8}with a conviction,
to get a lengthy sentence
663
00:31:56,873 --> 00:31:58,666
without any probability
of parole.
664
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:01,836
Even though they're in prison
under auto-theft charges,
665
00:32:02,462 --> 00:32:05,048
Heber and his associates,
666
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,842
Richard LeBaronand Doug Barlow,
667
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:09,510
get put on trial.
668
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,220
As an assistant
federal public defender,
669
00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:13,514
I was assigned
to represent Heber LeBaron,
670
00:32:14,015 --> 00:32:15,808
the lead defendant in this case.
671
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:18,102
I did not expect him to be...
672
00:32:19,145 --> 00:32:22,065
as college-kid-lookingas he turned out to be...
673
00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:25,902
nor in the end,did I expect him to be
674
00:32:25,985 --> 00:32:27,946
as candid as he was with me.
675
00:32:29,697 --> 00:32:32,075
{\an8}Heber truly believed...
676
00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:35,995
{\an8}what his father had told him
and raised him to be.
677
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,872
He believed
that they were obligated
678
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:40,458
to kill the people
they were told to kill
679
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:42,460
in order to inherit
680
00:32:42,543 --> 00:32:44,963
all the material
and spiritual wealth
681
00:32:45,046 --> 00:32:46,756
of the world.
682
00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:48,800
[♪ instrumental music]
683
00:32:49,342 --> 00:32:52,512
[David] During the trial,Heber was as detached
684
00:32:52,595 --> 00:32:55,848
as anything else,
just detached, not part of this.
685
00:32:55,932 --> 00:32:59,060
{\an8}I'm above it all, I'm not gonna,
I'm not gonna give this
686
00:32:59,143 --> 00:33:02,563
{\an8}the dignity of paying
careful attention,
687
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,941
although I think they were
listening very carefully
688
00:33:05,024 --> 00:33:06,693
to everything
that was being said...
689
00:33:08,236 --> 00:33:11,364
Particularly when Cynthiatook the witness stand.
690
00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:15,660
I had to deal with the devil,
691
00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:18,371
and I'll stand by that deal.
692
00:33:18,496 --> 00:33:20,373
{\an8}But without her,
693
00:33:20,456 --> 00:33:22,750
{\an8}there would have been
no prosecution, none.
694
00:33:25,003 --> 00:33:26,796
[David] Cynthia laid things out
695
00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:28,965
just as she hadlaid them out for us...
696
00:33:29,257 --> 00:33:31,426
[♪ intense music]
697
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:36,556
Fearlessly, without looking
or sounding intimidated,
698
00:33:36,639 --> 00:33:39,559
nervous, or uncomfortable
in any way...
699
00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:43,521
although I'm sureshe was all three.
700
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:47,984
The trial lasted for four days.
701
00:33:50,445 --> 00:33:52,572
At the end of four days,
it was given to the jury.
702
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:53,865
It was in the jury's hands.
703
00:33:53,948 --> 00:33:55,366
The outcome was in doubt,
704
00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:57,368
because it's a jury trial,
705
00:33:57,452 --> 00:33:59,620
and we only had to winone juror's imagination
706
00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:01,122
to hang it up.
707
00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:04,042
I felt if we did not get
a conviction,
708
00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:06,085
more people were going to die.
709
00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:11,424
After so much injustice
that followed this family,
710
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:14,552
the verdict comes down,
711
00:34:14,635 --> 00:34:18,222
and it's guilty
for all three perpetrators.
712
00:34:18,848 --> 00:34:22,643
Heber and Dougget life sentences
713
00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:24,604
for the 4 o'clock murders.
714
00:34:24,687 --> 00:34:26,606
I think Heber
has killed before,
715
00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:28,691
and I think he enjoyed killing.
716
00:34:28,775 --> 00:34:30,693
So, no, I don't think
life's appropriate.
717
00:34:30,777 --> 00:34:32,070
The death penalty is.
718
00:34:32,153 --> 00:34:33,988
As for Richard,
719
00:34:34,155 --> 00:34:37,700
he reaches a plea agreement
and serves five years.
720
00:34:39,619 --> 00:34:41,579
When I found out later
about the verdict
721
00:34:41,662 --> 00:34:43,122
and that they
were gonna be spending time--
722
00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:44,707
a lot of time in prison,
723
00:34:44,791 --> 00:34:46,209
um, I felt safer.
724
00:34:47,126 --> 00:34:48,878
[Celia] It was betterthat they be in prison,
725
00:34:48,961 --> 00:34:50,296
but there are
726
00:34:50,379 --> 00:34:52,298
- a lot of mixed emotions.
- Yes.
727
00:34:52,381 --> 00:34:55,134
These are people that you love,
that you care about.
728
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:56,677
It was heart-wrenching.
729
00:34:56,761 --> 00:34:58,638
I mean, anybody would,
730
00:34:58,721 --> 00:35:00,556
that was
close to the story,
731
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,683
I think, felt
a collective relief.
732
00:35:03,976 --> 00:35:06,646
[Lisa] You know,Heber did send us a letter
733
00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:08,940
that he wanted to
take responsibility
734
00:35:09,023 --> 00:35:11,609
and acknowledge
for killing our father
735
00:35:11,692 --> 00:35:13,820
and, uh, acknowledge the role
736
00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:15,863
that he played
in our mother's death.
737
00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:18,282
[♪ instrumental music]
738
00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:22,078
But I will never forget
our mother,
739
00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:26,290
in her deepest grief,
prayed and forgave him
740
00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:28,126
and told us,
you have to forgive him
741
00:35:28,209 --> 00:35:31,462
and, like, release him,
that God will handle it.
742
00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:34,841
We did not grow up with
the burden of unforgiveness.
743
00:35:35,424 --> 00:35:38,636
And, um, it's the most
tremendous gift
744
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,388
that our mother
really could've ever given us,
745
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:42,098
as far as I'm concerned.
746
00:35:42,181 --> 00:35:44,016
- Lisa and I have been through--
- A lot.
747
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,894
A lot of, a lot of
complex situations.
748
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:50,940
And, you know, here we are,
we still have a very close bond.
749
00:35:51,023 --> 00:35:52,400
- And I'm very grateful.
- Mm-hmm.
750
00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:55,653
There was just
such profound fear for so long.
751
00:35:55,736 --> 00:35:57,905
So I was like, I'm not
gonna let this run my life.
752
00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,449
I'm not gonna run away
from death
753
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,702
and these gruesome things,
I'm going to...
754
00:36:03,911 --> 00:36:05,204
make it my bitch.
755
00:36:05,288 --> 00:36:06,956
[chuckling]
756
00:36:09,041 --> 00:36:10,918
It's hard to decide
757
00:36:11,002 --> 00:36:14,088
if justice is ever served
when so much is lost,
758
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,883
but I think this was finally
a step in the right direction.
759
00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:20,052
But someone
was still skirting justice.
760
00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:23,222
[reporter] Aaron LeBaron, now24, leader of the conspiracy,
761
00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:25,683
according to authorities,still at large in Mexico,
762
00:36:25,766 --> 00:36:28,144
Aaron having been designatedas the grand patriarch
763
00:36:28,227 --> 00:36:29,562
of this violent sect.
764
00:36:36,527 --> 00:36:39,405
{\an8}In 1995, we learned
that Aaron's been taken
765
00:36:39,488 --> 00:36:41,032
into custody in Mexico.
766
00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:43,492
[♪ dramatic music]
767
00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:46,704
We finally were able
to convince, uh, Mexico
768
00:36:46,787 --> 00:36:50,166
to arrest him
and, uh, get him extradited.
769
00:36:50,249 --> 00:36:52,293
I didn't give, uh, orders,
770
00:36:52,418 --> 00:36:55,046
neither am I leader of a cult
like the newspapers say.
771
00:36:55,129 --> 00:36:58,007
I'm a, um...
772
00:36:59,008 --> 00:37:00,885
director of an English,
uh, school.
773
00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:02,637
I believe in, um...
774
00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:06,641
uh, giving to other people
and helping other people.
775
00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:09,227
[♪ intense music]
776
00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:11,562
[David] I wouldn't look at himand say, "Jeez,
777
00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:13,606
this guy is a master criminal."
778
00:37:15,107 --> 00:37:17,276
But then I knew differently.
779
00:37:18,778 --> 00:37:21,572
I knew that he'd had a lot
more to do with all of this
780
00:37:21,656 --> 00:37:24,200
than anybody really believed.
781
00:37:24,283 --> 00:37:26,494
[♪ music continues]
782
00:37:27,161 --> 00:37:30,164
Ervil had indoctrinated
these people for years.
783
00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:32,291
And we're, like,
two generations in now.
784
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:35,086
When you've been indoctrinated
your entire life
785
00:37:35,169 --> 00:37:38,256
to believe that murder
is a Godly act,
786
00:37:38,381 --> 00:37:40,967
that really complicates
your morality.
787
00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:44,303
[Terry]
He was tried and convicted
788
00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:46,806
because he was the intellectual
author of the homicides.
789
00:37:46,889 --> 00:37:48,391
He's the one
that put it in motion.
790
00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:50,768
And he was sentenced
to 45 years in prison.
791
00:37:50,851 --> 00:37:52,645
[♪ music continues]
792
00:37:55,898 --> 00:37:58,776
I never met Ervil LeBaron
in the flesh,
793
00:37:58,901 --> 00:38:00,486
but I lived and worked
794
00:38:00,569 --> 00:38:03,322
in the shadow of his ghost
for years
795
00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,367
and didn't stop until after
796
00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:08,869
the conviction of Aaron
in Texas.
797
00:38:09,328 --> 00:38:11,247
It's hard to get
an exact count
798
00:38:11,330 --> 00:38:14,083
in the wake
of this 30-year crime spree,
799
00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:18,045
but we do know that
around 33 people were killed,
800
00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:21,257
somewhere around
nine completed suicide,
801
00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:23,551
and countless others suffered
802
00:38:23,634 --> 00:38:26,429
at the hands
of all of this violence.
803
00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:29,974
As long as that
doggone book's out there,
804
00:38:30,057 --> 00:38:31,642
The Book of the Covenant...
805
00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:35,604
there's always a potential forsomeone to pick it up and say,
806
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:37,898
"I'm the one mighty
and strong now,"
807
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:41,277
and that should be
a concern to everyone.
808
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,029
{\an8}[♪ instrumental music]
809
00:38:44,488 --> 00:38:47,283
{\an8}Colonia LeBaron,
where Ervil first started out,
810
00:38:47,366 --> 00:38:49,160
still exists today.
811
00:38:49,410 --> 00:38:51,829
The people living thereare trying to
812
00:38:51,912 --> 00:38:55,750
put the past behind them.
And then 2019 happens.
813
00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:58,544
Families mourning
after a brutal massacre,
814
00:38:58,627 --> 00:39:01,505
three mothers and six
of their children killed.
815
00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:04,383
The LeBarons find themselves
in the headlines again
816
00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:06,510
for murder and death.
817
00:39:06,594 --> 00:39:08,387
[♪ intense music]
818
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:11,140
Three cars
are crossing the border
819
00:39:11,223 --> 00:39:15,227
from Mexico into Texas
when the cars are ambushed.
820
00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:17,563
[♪ music continues]
821
00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:23,694
And inside the cars are women,
mothers, and their children.
822
00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:26,447
At first, I thought to myself,
"Oh, my God,
823
00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:27,990
is the-is the cult back?
824
00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:30,534
Is this the new,
the new chapter?"
825
00:39:30,618 --> 00:39:32,078
Since then, it seems clear that
826
00:39:32,161 --> 00:39:34,163
other, other factors
have been at work.
827
00:39:34,246 --> 00:39:36,248
[reporter] Mexican officialsbelieve they were caught
828
00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:38,626
in the crosshairsof cartel violence,
829
00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:40,920
saying that a criminal gangconfused them
830
00:39:41,003 --> 00:39:43,381
for a group alignedwith the Sinaloa Cartel.
831
00:39:44,965 --> 00:39:48,386
It's just so sad, because
these families living there
832
00:39:48,677 --> 00:39:51,680
completely disavowErvil's teachings.
833
00:39:51,764 --> 00:39:53,599
And yet, it seems like
834
00:39:53,682 --> 00:39:57,478
the sort of curse of LeBaron
murderers isn't going away.
835
00:39:57,645 --> 00:39:59,814
[♪ music continues]
836
00:40:04,068 --> 00:40:06,487
[♪ soft music playing
on television]
837
00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:20,751
[Adine] Oh, my God.
838
00:40:21,836 --> 00:40:23,879
[Celia] So they have to start
with Los Molinos?
839
00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:25,339
[Faye] This is Los Molinos.
840
00:40:25,464 --> 00:40:27,508
- [Celia] Oh, God.
- [Adine] Oh, my gosh.
841
00:40:27,591 --> 00:40:30,469
There was a made-for-TV movie
that came out in the early '90s
842
00:40:30,553 --> 00:40:33,931
called Prophet of Evil.
It was about our father, Ervil.
843
00:40:34,014 --> 00:40:36,225
[♪ music continues]
844
00:40:37,893 --> 00:40:40,312
- [Celia] Oh, man.
- [Anna] This is horrible.
845
00:40:40,396 --> 00:40:42,273
[Adine] That's terrible.
846
00:40:43,357 --> 00:40:45,776
Watching it now,
it's just horrifying
847
00:40:46,152 --> 00:40:50,990
how much violence there was
in our family history.
848
00:40:51,073 --> 00:40:53,325
Just heart-wrenching to see
849
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,578
because they're representing
people that I love.
850
00:40:55,661 --> 00:40:59,415
So it's hard to see what
they've done with their lives.
851
00:40:59,498 --> 00:41:01,667
And the thing is that
they were just brainwashed.
852
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:04,336
And when you take away
that brainwashing,
853
00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:06,380
we were always good people.
854
00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:08,466
[♪ somber music]
855
00:41:10,676 --> 00:41:13,512
[Faye] The places that they're
showing there are way too nice.
856
00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:15,264
- I know.
[laughter]
857
00:41:15,389 --> 00:41:18,184
We did not live
this nice, okay?
858
00:41:18,267 --> 00:41:20,060
Something was bumping me,
and I couldn't figure out
859
00:41:20,144 --> 00:41:21,562
what it was, it's just likethis really nice house,
860
00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:22,855
well kept, maintained...
861
00:41:23,272 --> 00:41:24,732
[Anna] And we weren't
even allowed outside!
862
00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:26,317
- ...with white picket fence.
- [laughter]
863
00:41:29,195 --> 00:41:32,072
Through it all,
I never really lost my faith.
864
00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:35,451
I always had
a relationship with God.
865
00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:40,372
I have 10 children,21 grandchildren,
866
00:41:40,456 --> 00:41:42,708
and it just tickles my heart
867
00:41:42,791 --> 00:41:45,211
to be with themand play with them.
868
00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:48,172
And even thoughI went through all that crap,
869
00:41:48,255 --> 00:41:52,009
I'm a very happy person,
and I have a very happy life.
870
00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:53,928
[♪ music continues]
871
00:41:54,178 --> 00:41:56,430
Oh, there's the Mexican jail
where you were...
872
00:41:56,555 --> 00:41:59,475
- [both] Conceived!
- [laughter]
873
00:41:59,558 --> 00:42:02,478
I wanted to become a nurse,
874
00:42:02,978 --> 00:42:07,274
but my life was set out for meby religious doctrine.
875
00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:10,778
So I didn't think
I was smart enough.
876
00:42:10,861 --> 00:42:14,073
I didn't think
that was possible.
877
00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:16,951
But now as an adult,I became a nurse,
878
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:19,703
and I recently becamea master gardener.
879
00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:22,289
If that little girl
could just see me now...
880
00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:26,669
[children] Kill the police.
Kill the police.
881
00:42:26,752 --> 00:42:29,046
Kill the police.
Kill the police.
882
00:42:29,129 --> 00:42:30,714
No way would that ever happen.
883
00:42:30,798 --> 00:42:32,675
We were taught to say,
I don't know!
884
00:42:32,758 --> 00:42:35,177
- I don't know!
- I don't know!
885
00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:36,887
[laughter]
886
00:42:38,264 --> 00:42:40,266
Currently, my beliefs
about religion is
887
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:43,519
basically an atheist.
I think all religions are cults.
888
00:42:44,186 --> 00:42:47,064
It's just
some are better than others.
889
00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:49,567
[♪ instrumental music]
890
00:42:50,609 --> 00:42:53,487
I'm a Sergeant First Classin the US Army.
891
00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:56,782
I've deployed four times.
892
00:42:56,865 --> 00:42:58,242
[♪ music continues]
893
00:42:58,909 --> 00:43:03,330
I try to be beneficial
to humanity and the planet.
894
00:43:04,206 --> 00:43:06,166
You were consideredthe military leader...
895
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,710
Oh, that's Bryan Cranston
right there.
896
00:43:07,793 --> 00:43:09,378
[Celia] Oh, my God!
Breaking Bad!
897
00:43:09,461 --> 00:43:10,879
- Wait. Rewind, rewind!
- [Anna] Who is he?
898
00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:12,464
[Celia] Breaking Bad!
899
00:43:12,548 --> 00:43:13,841
[Hyrum] He's only one
of the most famous--
900
00:43:14,216 --> 00:43:15,342
[Adine] The guy
from Malcolm in the Middle!
901
00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:16,677
Yes! Oh, my God.
902
00:43:17,094 --> 00:43:18,429
[Hyrum] I didn't know
who he was the first time
903
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:19,805
- I watched this 20 years ago.
- [Anna] What?
904
00:43:20,139 --> 00:43:22,141
This is where
he made his big debut.
905
00:43:22,224 --> 00:43:23,392
Debut.
906
00:43:24,810 --> 00:43:28,814
It's been over 40 years since
I escaped my father's cult.
907
00:43:28,897 --> 00:43:30,816
[♪ instrumental music]
908
00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:35,112
I mean, it was a shock to me
that I, when I learned
909
00:43:35,195 --> 00:43:38,032
that what we had experienced
is called trauma.
910
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,786
To be able to grow and becomethe person that I am today,
911
00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:45,164
to heal enough
912
00:43:45,247 --> 00:43:48,083
{\an8}that I was able
to write my own story
913
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:50,377
{\an8}and to publish my book...
914
00:43:51,837 --> 00:43:54,048
{\an8}I want to be an inspiration
to others...
915
00:43:54,131 --> 00:43:58,385
anyone who's experienced
abuse, neglect, abandonment.
916
00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:01,055
Those things
don't have to define us today.
917
00:44:01,138 --> 00:44:02,931
[♪ instrumental music]
918
00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:06,852
{\an8}I have overcome all of the odds,
919
00:44:07,102 --> 00:44:08,896
{\an8}and here I am.
920
00:44:09,605 --> 00:44:12,107
So it's me and Hyrum
that are in the movie so far.
921
00:44:12,191 --> 00:44:14,068
- Yes.
- We were in the Veracruz raid!
922
00:44:14,151 --> 00:44:16,403
[Celia] Not specifically,
but you were one of those kids.
923
00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:19,740
Hyrum assisted
by opening the door.
924
00:44:19,823 --> 00:44:21,492
Thanks, Hyrum.
925
00:44:23,035 --> 00:44:26,497
I ran away
from the cult 36 years ago,
926
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:28,749
and I never turned back.
927
00:44:30,250 --> 00:44:32,795
I have three grown children.
928
00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:35,047
{\an8}I have a career in finance.
929
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:38,884
{\an8}And in my process,I had to evaluate
930
00:44:38,967 --> 00:44:42,221
every belief that I had,
931
00:44:42,304 --> 00:44:45,307
every thought, practically,
that went through my mind
932
00:44:46,141 --> 00:44:49,353
and look at it and say,"Do I really believe this?
933
00:44:49,436 --> 00:44:51,772
Or is this what
I was taught to believe"?
934
00:44:51,855 --> 00:44:53,899
[♪ music continues]
935
00:44:56,694 --> 00:44:58,362
[narrator on TV]
Since Ervil LeBaron's death,
936
00:44:58,445 --> 00:45:00,239
his children and membersof his church
937
00:45:00,322 --> 00:45:02,574
have committed15 additional murders.
938
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,494
His legacy has continued.
939
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,746
- But no more!
- Not anymore.
940
00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:09,790
- [Anna] No more.
- No more.
941
00:45:11,125 --> 00:45:12,960
[Anna]
There's no telling this story
942
00:45:13,043 --> 00:45:15,879
without bringing up this past.
943
00:45:15,963 --> 00:45:17,923
[♪ music continues]
944
00:45:19,258 --> 00:45:22,302
[Celia] I am ready nowto embrace the wholeness
945
00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:24,138
of who I am
946
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:28,392
and what it means today
to be a LeBaron.
947
00:45:28,475 --> 00:45:29,810
Mm-hmm.
948
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:31,687
It's something
that I'm proud of.
949
00:45:32,354 --> 00:45:35,941
It's been over 30 years.
950
00:45:36,024 --> 00:45:41,029
Ervil's children
are not about that anymore.
951
00:45:41,113 --> 00:45:43,615
Ervil's children are the ones
who want all of that
952
00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:46,118
- to stop more than everyone.
- [Celia] Yeah.
953
00:45:46,201 --> 00:45:47,995
I promise you that.
954
00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:51,123
[♪ instrumental music]
955
00:46:06,638 --> 00:46:08,640
[♪ instrumental music]
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