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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:12,580 [Amy] The guy is laughing. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,800 He's bouncing off the ceiling, the walls... 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,166 I'm getting nervous. 4 00:00:17,186 --> 00:00:18,333 Damn! 5 00:00:19,166 --> 00:00:22,467 I have witnessed my husband battle something 6 00:00:22,487 --> 00:00:24,146 while he's asleep. 7 00:00:24,166 --> 00:00:27,739 Like, I'm fighting for my life in there sometimes. 8 00:00:27,759 --> 00:00:31,333 It's attacking him! He's [bleep] all over the place. 9 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:37,000 [exhaling] It's like out of a horror movie, right? - Yes. 10 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:38,233 It would've been a nightmare. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,240 I let him sit there and fight this thing! 12 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:44,900 [in a high-pitched voice] Who does that? 13 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:48,714 [sniffling] 14 00:00:48,734 --> 00:00:51,066 [Amy] This guy's gonna be obliterated. 15 00:01:12,467 --> 00:01:14,266 [Amy] I'm anxious about this. 16 00:01:16,634 --> 00:01:18,166 I'm getting nervous. 17 00:01:18,186 --> 00:01:19,366 Damn! 18 00:01:21,166 --> 00:01:22,333 Not good. 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,467 Yeah, just not good. 20 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:28,000 Something doesn't feel right here. 21 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,734 [creaking] 22 00:01:33,166 --> 00:01:34,233 Ooh, boy. 23 00:01:34,734 --> 00:01:36,533 I don't like this. Okay. 24 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,100 Ow! Oh, God. 25 00:01:43,166 --> 00:01:44,867 I need to take a minute, 'cause, um... 26 00:01:44,887 --> 00:01:46,533 That hurt a lot. 27 00:02:00,166 --> 00:02:02,266 [Steve] I'm out here in Summerville, South Carolina. 28 00:02:02,286 --> 00:02:04,467 It's about 25 miles north of Charleston. 29 00:02:06,367 --> 00:02:09,580 I got a call from a desperate woman named Traci. 30 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,734 She says she used her entire life savings to buy a home for her family, 31 00:02:13,754 --> 00:02:15,080 but the second they moved in, 32 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:17,533 the place turned into a paranormal war zone. 33 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:22,240 Traci said she knows she sounds dramatic, 34 00:02:22,260 --> 00:02:24,000 but she thinks whatever's in the house 35 00:02:24,020 --> 00:02:25,333 is trying to kill her. 36 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:29,233 She sounds bad, and I'm really hoping we can help her out. 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,980 So Traci, I gotta tell you. 38 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,573 Just driving through this neighborhood 39 00:02:33,593 --> 00:02:35,720 and coming up to this beautiful home, 40 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:37,847 I understand why you were drawn to it. 41 00:02:37,867 --> 00:02:40,700 But, on the other side of that when we spoke on the phone, 42 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,500 it sounded like it's nothing but a nightmare here. 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:43,633 What the hell's going on? 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,714 We're living through hell. 45 00:02:45,734 --> 00:02:48,533 This... This house that was supposed to be our dream home... 46 00:02:49,166 --> 00:02:51,266 ...has turned into our nightmare. 47 00:02:51,286 --> 00:02:53,847 It sucks the life out of you. 48 00:02:53,867 --> 00:02:59,166 It takes any happiness and any hope that you have for the future 49 00:02:59,186 --> 00:03:01,600 and... it steals it. 50 00:03:01,620 --> 00:03:02,833 Okay. 51 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:04,467 Why don't we start from the basics? 52 00:03:04,487 --> 00:03:05,700 Who all lives in the house? 53 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:11,100 [Traci] My husband David and our 20 year old daughter Catherine. 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,714 [Steve] Uh, Traci, 55 00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:13,680 do me a favor and give me a list 56 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,980 of what you guys were experiencing here. 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,246 [Traci] We have things moving on their own. 58 00:03:18,266 --> 00:03:21,100 We're seeing apparitions and shadow figures. 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,347 I'm having severe mood changes. 60 00:03:23,367 --> 00:03:26,367 And now it's beginning to affect us physically. 61 00:03:26,387 --> 00:03:27,967 Now, you mentioned mood changes. 62 00:03:27,987 --> 00:03:28,947 Tell me about that. 63 00:03:28,967 --> 00:03:32,166 I will be fine and then someone flips a switch 64 00:03:32,186 --> 00:03:33,714 and I see red. 65 00:03:33,734 --> 00:03:35,947 If I knew I didn't have to pay for everything, 66 00:03:35,967 --> 00:03:38,600 I would destroy... I'd destroy everything in the house. 67 00:03:38,620 --> 00:03:39,447 Really? 68 00:03:39,467 --> 00:03:41,523 [Traci] It gets that bad. 69 00:03:41,543 --> 00:03:43,580 And then I go after David. 70 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,847 The last time it got really bad. 71 00:03:45,867 --> 00:03:48,500 I not only went after David, but I went after Catherine. 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,447 And I'm gonna say something ugly 73 00:03:51,467 --> 00:03:56,166 and hateful, and I'm thinking, "Don't do that, that will hurt her so bad. 74 00:03:56,186 --> 00:03:57,614 She'll never forget it." 75 00:03:57,634 --> 00:03:59,146 Do you feel like something's taking over you, 76 00:03:59,166 --> 00:04:02,367 or do you just feel like you can't control yourself? 77 00:04:02,387 --> 00:04:05,614 It feels like something is taking over me, 78 00:04:05,634 --> 00:04:09,166 because it's almost like I'm locked in my head. 79 00:04:09,186 --> 00:04:11,900 But I can't... it just comes out. 80 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:14,480 You break my heart. I just... 81 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:16,580 You were feeling guilty, it sounds like 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,600 because you feel like you're dragging your family down. 83 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:21,367 The amount of guilt I have, you have no idea. 84 00:04:21,387 --> 00:04:23,847 Um, I have an amazing husband 85 00:04:23,867 --> 00:04:28,000 and the best child anybody could ever ask for. 86 00:04:28,634 --> 00:04:31,066 And I... I put them through hell. 87 00:04:32,100 --> 00:04:33,580 Any other physical things happening? 88 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,367 I mean, that's got to take its toll on you. 89 00:04:35,387 --> 00:04:36,847 We will get anxiety. 90 00:04:36,867 --> 00:04:38,956 We will also get no energy. 91 00:04:38,976 --> 00:04:41,911 You're walking through sludge. 92 00:04:41,931 --> 00:04:44,847 It sucks the life out of you. 93 00:04:44,867 --> 00:04:46,734 And so, you guys are my last hope. 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,433 [Amy] I see these outlines of people around the campfire. 95 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:59,480 I can only make one male out. 96 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:04,480 He's thin, white, longer brown hair... 97 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:08,467 I'm getting his emotions, so he's like really stressed out. 98 00:05:08,487 --> 00:05:09,480 He's really worried. 99 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:12,600 He knows, like, everyone is exhausted. 100 00:05:12,620 --> 00:05:17,734 I'm talking extreme exhaustion. 101 00:05:18,467 --> 00:05:20,333 His legs are like jelly. 102 00:05:21,266 --> 00:05:24,900 You know, so the muscles are so exhausted. 103 00:05:26,967 --> 00:05:28,000 Hmm, hmm... 104 00:05:29,066 --> 00:05:31,333 So I'm thinking that... 105 00:05:32,367 --> 00:05:36,847 ...those kind of emotional things... 106 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:40,734 ...and physical things from the stress and the exhaustion 107 00:05:40,754 --> 00:05:43,166 may be affecting the living here. 108 00:05:45,367 --> 00:05:47,600 Some bad [bleep] went down 109 00:05:47,620 --> 00:05:49,266 around this area. 110 00:05:56,467 --> 00:05:57,246 [Steve] Okay, Traci. 111 00:05:57,266 --> 00:05:58,580 So why are we in the garage? 112 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,600 This is where I come when I feel like I am being influenced, 113 00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:04,383 I am full of rage... 114 00:06:04,403 --> 00:06:06,146 ...to decompress. 115 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:08,634 [Steve] Are you having any experiences while you're in here? 116 00:06:08,654 --> 00:06:12,000 I have seen a shadow figure peeking around the corner 117 00:06:12,020 --> 00:06:12,980 into the bedroom. 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,266 [Steve] Describe what it looked like. 119 00:06:14,286 --> 00:06:15,716 It kind of felt like a male. 120 00:06:15,736 --> 00:06:16,941 More solid. - More solid? 121 00:06:16,961 --> 00:06:18,146 Yes. - [Steve] Okay. 122 00:06:18,166 --> 00:06:19,700 What are you feeling from this shadow figure 123 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,867 that's looking at you in the bedroom? 124 00:06:21,887 --> 00:06:23,550 It makes me uncomfortable. 125 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:25,233 Uh, it's an uneasy feeling. 126 00:06:25,634 --> 00:06:26,714 Okay, anything else? 127 00:06:26,734 --> 00:06:31,146 I feel a negative presence or energy in the bathroom. 128 00:06:31,166 --> 00:06:32,580 [Steve] Are you sure it's not somebody walking in, 129 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,734 and you just feel like its presence? - [Traci] I'm sure. 130 00:06:34,754 --> 00:06:38,000 Feels like there's someone in the corner, 131 00:06:38,020 --> 00:06:39,333 and it feels heavy. 132 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,947 It feels dark. 133 00:06:40,967 --> 00:06:44,166 So basically, this is almost a menacing presence here. 134 00:06:44,186 --> 00:06:45,347 Yeah, a creeper. 135 00:06:45,367 --> 00:06:47,447 Um... you shouldn't be in the bathroom 136 00:06:47,467 --> 00:06:48,714 when I'm taking a shower. - [Steve] Right. 137 00:06:48,734 --> 00:06:51,533 When my daughter's in there, nobody should be in there. 138 00:06:52,367 --> 00:06:53,533 Okay. 139 00:06:55,367 --> 00:06:58,580 [Amy] I'm hearing a male. 140 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,980 He is dead, and he's crying. 141 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,980 Uh, so he keeps wiping his eyes 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,467 and, um, he feels devastated and lost. 143 00:07:08,367 --> 00:07:12,333 I think the living would feel this, uh... 144 00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:14,080 ...despair. 145 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:16,467 They're feeling the emotions, I think, 146 00:07:16,487 --> 00:07:17,680 and he feels sick. 147 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:20,100 Like, there's something wrong with his stomach, 148 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,633 you know, for sure. 149 00:07:21,653 --> 00:07:23,146 That's how he died. 150 00:07:23,166 --> 00:07:24,634 And then they're seeing him. 151 00:07:26,367 --> 00:07:29,066 I... He thinks they're seeing him, him. 152 00:07:34,266 --> 00:07:35,480 [exhaling] 153 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:38,367 Literally felt like something went "bam," 154 00:07:38,387 --> 00:07:41,166 like through my whole left side. 155 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,847 It hurt. A lot. 156 00:07:44,867 --> 00:07:47,447 I think that they would have severe... 157 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:50,700 an intense, like, stomach and back pain, you know? 158 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,833 Like it... 159 00:07:52,266 --> 00:07:53,367 [exhaling] 160 00:07:54,166 --> 00:07:56,634 [quietly] Yes, that hurt. Okay. 161 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:05,600 [Steve] All right, so what's going on in here? 162 00:08:05,620 --> 00:08:08,246 I will wake up sometimes in extreme pain 163 00:08:08,266 --> 00:08:11,266 in my kidneys, um, I will wake up with bruising. 164 00:08:11,286 --> 00:08:13,266 What parts of the body are they on, mostly? 165 00:08:13,286 --> 00:08:14,614 [Traci] My legs a lot. 166 00:08:14,634 --> 00:08:17,000 Is it, to you, like you're in bed and it looks like 167 00:08:17,020 --> 00:08:18,246 somebody's grabbing your legs? 168 00:08:18,266 --> 00:08:19,367 Something like that? - [Traci] Yes. 169 00:08:19,387 --> 00:08:20,714 With both hands. 170 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:25,000 They're not a pattern that would be found on my bed, 171 00:08:25,020 --> 00:08:26,980 or by one of our animals. 172 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,347 How many times has this happened? 173 00:08:28,367 --> 00:08:33,100 It's happened probably two dozen times since we've moved in. 174 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,246 All right, anything else? 175 00:08:34,266 --> 00:08:38,867 I have witnessed my husband battle something full-on 176 00:08:38,887 --> 00:08:40,146 while he's asleep. 177 00:08:40,166 --> 00:08:41,623 It's happened multiple times. 178 00:08:41,643 --> 00:08:43,944 What's... what's going on? 179 00:08:43,964 --> 00:08:46,246 He is yelling, "Stop! No!" 180 00:08:46,266 --> 00:08:48,673 He'll roll over, he will push his arms out 181 00:08:48,693 --> 00:08:51,100 like he's trying to push something off of him. 182 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,347 He does not recall when he wakes up. 183 00:08:53,367 --> 00:08:56,166 So in your opinion, does it feel like he's being physically attacked? 184 00:08:56,186 --> 00:08:57,680 [Traci] It does feel like that. 185 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:01,233 In his voice, it sounds like you can hear pain. 186 00:09:01,867 --> 00:09:03,146 Thanks a lot. Okay. 187 00:09:03,166 --> 00:09:04,313 So I gotta ask you something, Traci. 188 00:09:04,333 --> 00:09:06,467 What do you think is here when it comes to the paranormal? 189 00:09:06,487 --> 00:09:07,800 I think there's something... 190 00:09:08,533 --> 00:09:10,480 ...that's not human outside. 191 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:12,967 And I think there's something inside, 192 00:09:12,987 --> 00:09:14,433 or multiple things inside. 193 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,947 Either way, they don't belong here. 194 00:09:17,967 --> 00:09:19,634 And they're making our lives a living hell. 195 00:09:20,867 --> 00:09:22,333 I'm hanging on by a thread. 196 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:27,447 [Amy] I... 197 00:09:27,467 --> 00:09:30,246 ...encountered a very odd male. 198 00:09:30,266 --> 00:09:33,166 He's creepy and he's got this big smile. 199 00:09:33,186 --> 00:09:35,467 So he did something to a male... 200 00:09:36,467 --> 00:09:37,734 ...who was... 201 00:09:39,266 --> 00:09:40,634 ...sleeping? 202 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:43,580 The guy is laughing. 203 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,266 He's bouncing off the [bleep] ceiling, the walls, 204 00:09:46,286 --> 00:09:47,347 he's laughing. 205 00:09:47,367 --> 00:09:48,923 He's very, very bad. 206 00:09:48,943 --> 00:09:50,480 He's attacking him. 207 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:52,614 He's [bleep] all over the place. 208 00:09:52,634 --> 00:09:55,367 There's some kind of impact to the mid-chest. 209 00:09:56,266 --> 00:09:59,480 I feel like it's a punch to the chest. 210 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:03,634 Like, he's kind of claiming, like, "I was just scaring him..." 211 00:10:03,654 --> 00:10:06,900 But this male is feeling, 212 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,216 like, he's being attacked. 213 00:10:09,236 --> 00:10:11,533 What was his experience? 214 00:10:12,367 --> 00:10:13,714 He's like stuck. 215 00:10:13,734 --> 00:10:17,090 Can't move his arms, trying to move his arms. 216 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:20,467 Like, feeling like there's a person on him. 217 00:10:20,487 --> 00:10:21,533 Something's on him. 218 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:24,800 You know, "Get it off me." 219 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:43,166 [Steve] So Catherine, I spoke with Mom earlier. 220 00:10:43,186 --> 00:10:44,447 She thinks something in the house 221 00:10:44,467 --> 00:10:46,000 is making her fly off the handle. 222 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:47,100 I mean, do you agree? 223 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,050 Yes, sir. 224 00:10:48,070 --> 00:10:48,980 It's tough. 225 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,840 Yeah, I can definitely tell she's not herself. 226 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:54,700 The rage... it's... you can't even describe it. 227 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,980 It's scary leaving, 228 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,146 like if I have to go to school, 229 00:10:58,166 --> 00:11:01,634 but I know she... she's having an episode or a hard time, 230 00:11:01,654 --> 00:11:03,266 that I don't want to leave her alone. 231 00:11:03,634 --> 00:11:04,847 Okay. 232 00:11:04,867 --> 00:11:06,080 What about experiences here? 233 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:07,980 What can you tell me about that you've had? 234 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,080 I've seen a creature standing outside of my window. 235 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:13,357 [Tony] Okay. This window here? - [Catherine] Yes, sir. 236 00:11:13,377 --> 00:11:15,634 When you say "a creature," what are you talking about? 237 00:11:15,654 --> 00:11:17,900 I could only see from the torso up. 238 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Okay. - [Catherine] Um... 239 00:11:18,900 --> 00:11:21,266 But it... it seemed really tall. 240 00:11:21,286 --> 00:11:22,450 And it was... 241 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:23,614 ...pitch black. 242 00:11:23,634 --> 00:11:25,447 This was at night? - [Catherine] Yes, sir. 243 00:11:25,467 --> 00:11:26,867 [Steve] Could it have been somebody from college 244 00:11:26,887 --> 00:11:27,847 playing a prank, maybe? 245 00:11:27,867 --> 00:11:30,266 No, sir. The shape of it... It wasn't human. 246 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:32,347 Okay, anything else? 247 00:11:32,367 --> 00:11:34,357 I was in the bathroom one morning. 248 00:11:34,377 --> 00:11:36,347 I was just standing at the sink, 249 00:11:36,367 --> 00:11:39,166 brushing my teeth, and something pulled the shower curtain open. 250 00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:41,080 But there wasn't anything there. 251 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:42,900 And I was the only one in the bathroom. 252 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,847 I know you guys got pets. 253 00:11:43,867 --> 00:11:45,000 I mean, was any of the pets in the room? 254 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:46,080 No, sir. 255 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:47,900 What did you do? 'Cause I think I would've ran out. 256 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,880 I think I kind of just... froze. 257 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:52,980 It's shocking, but you always get used to it. 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,166 So... - Okay, you guys are basically numb to everything 259 00:11:55,186 --> 00:11:56,900 that's going on. - Yes, sir. 260 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,347 Okay. So anything else? 261 00:11:58,367 --> 00:12:02,533 One time I saw the reflection of a man standing behind me in my mirror. 262 00:12:02,553 --> 00:12:03,800 Here in this room? - [Catherine] Yes, sir. 263 00:12:04,367 --> 00:12:06,447 He was standing in my doorway. 264 00:12:06,467 --> 00:12:08,146 Okay, you're sure nobody came walking into the house 265 00:12:08,166 --> 00:12:09,467 trying to rob the place, right? - [Catherine] Yes, sir. 266 00:12:09,487 --> 00:12:11,166 Dad was sleeping, Mom was sleeping... 267 00:12:11,186 --> 00:12:12,533 How are you sleeping at night? 268 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:14,573 I think I try to block it out. 269 00:12:14,593 --> 00:12:15,880 Okay. - [Catherine] Um... 270 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:17,714 I mean, sometimes you still get that feeling 271 00:12:17,734 --> 00:12:20,867 of you're laying there and you feel something in the room with you, 272 00:12:20,887 --> 00:12:22,080 even if you're not seeing anything, 273 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:24,734 you can tell someone's. like, standing right next to you. 274 00:12:27,867 --> 00:12:30,266 [Amy] That creepy smiling guy is out here. 275 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,867 His eyes are sewn... 276 00:12:34,367 --> 00:12:35,980 uh, shut. 277 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,440 Uh, and they're kind of caved in. 278 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:40,900 He's got this smile on this face, 279 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,533 and the smile is not normal. 280 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:46,734 It's, like, grotesque. 281 00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:49,080 So it's big. 282 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:52,367 And you can just see his... his teeth. 283 00:12:52,387 --> 00:12:53,847 He's very, very bad. 284 00:12:53,867 --> 00:12:57,080 I tried to get more info out of him, 285 00:12:57,100 --> 00:13:02,166 but then he turns into, like, a complete shadow person. 286 00:13:04,166 --> 00:13:08,900 And now he loses all of the features in the hair. 287 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,000 His head becomes completely round, 288 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:14,847 and there's just that smile. 289 00:13:14,867 --> 00:13:17,600 Now he kind of becomes like a stick figure 290 00:13:17,620 --> 00:13:18,614 with a smile. 291 00:13:18,634 --> 00:13:21,166 He started climbing the walls, and then he, like, 292 00:13:21,186 --> 00:13:22,533 disappeared out the wall. 293 00:13:23,467 --> 00:13:24,734 Oh yeah, he's bad. 294 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,867 [Steve] So David, I've talked to your wife earlier. 295 00:13:35,887 --> 00:13:38,000 She seems like a very sweet woman, right? 296 00:13:38,020 --> 00:13:38,980 Yeah. 297 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,467 But it sounds like she just totally changes. 298 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:43,367 Yeah, it's... it's like night and day. 299 00:13:43,387 --> 00:13:44,433 What do you see happen? 300 00:13:45,734 --> 00:13:47,634 Just... rage. 301 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:49,200 Um... 302 00:13:49,367 --> 00:13:50,146 Hatred. 303 00:13:50,166 --> 00:13:51,513 It's almost indescribable. 304 00:13:51,533 --> 00:13:54,367 It's like she could lose her mind and then, 305 00:13:54,387 --> 00:13:56,050 like, flip everything. 306 00:13:56,070 --> 00:13:57,734 And then just go nuts. 307 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:00,513 It's insane to see it. 308 00:14:00,533 --> 00:14:02,166 It's gotta be a little stressful for you. 309 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:04,347 Yeah, very. 310 00:14:04,367 --> 00:14:07,367 So, have you had any experiences that you can't explain? 311 00:14:07,387 --> 00:14:10,467 Yeah, the smoke detectors go off by themselves. 312 00:14:10,487 --> 00:14:12,166 All right, so was this one defective... 313 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,080 ...smoke detector? 314 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:17,000 No, we have three throughout the house. 315 00:14:17,020 --> 00:14:18,080 Okay. 316 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:21,233 At different times, one would go off. 317 00:14:22,367 --> 00:14:23,513 That's odd. - [David] Yeah. 318 00:14:23,533 --> 00:14:26,000 Were there any signs that smoke might've... 319 00:14:26,020 --> 00:14:27,447 ...into the house? - No. No. 320 00:14:27,467 --> 00:14:29,146 There was no electrical problems? 321 00:14:29,166 --> 00:14:32,080 No, they're not hard-wired. It isn't battery operated. 322 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:34,734 All right, is there anything else you can tell me that you can't explain? 323 00:14:35,266 --> 00:14:37,266 Yeah, the dogs and the cats 324 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,100 are staring... 325 00:14:39,734 --> 00:14:41,980 ...at things we can't see. 326 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,233 And they're... they're, like, fixated on it? - Yes. 327 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Our dog, he sat here... 328 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:51,533 ...one night, and just looked up there and barked. 329 00:14:52,867 --> 00:14:54,513 And you couldn't shut him up. 330 00:14:54,533 --> 00:14:55,789 All right, so let me ask a question. 331 00:14:55,809 --> 00:14:57,066 Do you have a crawlspace up there? 332 00:14:57,367 --> 00:14:58,347 [David] Yup. 333 00:14:58,367 --> 00:14:59,513 [Steve] What's your thoughts on it, though? 334 00:14:59,533 --> 00:15:01,000 Do you think that it could have something paranormal? 335 00:15:01,020 --> 00:15:03,000 Definitely something that's not normal. 336 00:15:03,020 --> 00:15:04,267 That's for sure. 337 00:15:05,166 --> 00:15:06,447 So David, I spoke to your wife. 338 00:15:06,467 --> 00:15:08,680 And, uh, she explained to me that you're going 339 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:10,700 through some stuff when you're... when you're sleeping. 340 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,580 She just told me several times 341 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,100 just... like I'm... fighting for my life 342 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,880 in there sometimes, and... 343 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:21,000 ...just tossing and turning and obviously I don't know I'm doing it. 344 00:15:21,020 --> 00:15:22,900 I need to try to figure out what's going on 345 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,734 or whatever, something. 346 00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:26,633 'Cause... 347 00:15:27,533 --> 00:15:28,634 ...I don't have a clue. 348 00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:35,614 [Amy] That creepy smiling guy 349 00:15:35,634 --> 00:15:38,066 is obsessed with someone in this house. 350 00:15:40,266 --> 00:15:42,447 There's the living... 351 00:15:42,467 --> 00:15:46,100 I'm thinking dude laying here, right? - [cameraman] Right. 352 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,467 [Amy] The smiling dude... - [cameraman] Mmm-hmm. 353 00:15:49,487 --> 00:15:52,634 ...is, was on him enough like this. 354 00:15:52,654 --> 00:15:53,513 [cameraman] Mmm-hmm. 355 00:15:53,533 --> 00:15:56,433 [Amy] That thing is like molesting people. 356 00:15:57,700 --> 00:16:00,100 I'm thinking this might be the same living person 357 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,867 whose... was on the couch! 358 00:16:02,867 --> 00:16:07,734 This male is feeling like he's being attacked. 359 00:16:08,734 --> 00:16:12,433 Occasionally, other people might get... 360 00:16:13,266 --> 00:16:15,146 ...affected by him. 361 00:16:15,166 --> 00:16:17,900 I think he's attracted to... 362 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:20,614 ...the living male. 363 00:16:20,634 --> 00:16:23,066 Person woke up, freaking out. 364 00:16:24,467 --> 00:16:26,266 Do you know what he wants to do to him? 365 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,333 Uh, kill him. 366 00:16:33,533 --> 00:16:37,367 [Steve] First question I ask when I start these investigations is, 367 00:16:37,387 --> 00:16:39,716 "Who was the original owner of my client's land?" 368 00:16:39,736 --> 00:16:41,941 Usually it's someone boring and I move on. 369 00:16:41,961 --> 00:16:44,146 But in this case, it's different. 370 00:16:44,166 --> 00:16:46,046 I'm on my way to meet a genealogist 371 00:16:46,066 --> 00:16:48,867 who says the first owners experienced nothing but misery 372 00:16:48,887 --> 00:16:50,700 the second they bought the property. 373 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,533 And it all ended with a murder. 374 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,500 Well Jeff, thanks for helping me out with this case. 375 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,166 This family, what can you tell me about them? 376 00:17:01,186 --> 00:17:02,716 Yeah, the matriarch of the family 377 00:17:02,736 --> 00:17:04,246 was a lady named Harriet Harllee. 378 00:17:04,266 --> 00:17:07,500 She was born in 1837 in South Carolina, 379 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,333 and when she was 20 in 1857, 380 00:17:09,353 --> 00:17:11,016 she married her first husband. 381 00:17:11,036 --> 00:17:12,680 His name was Robert Graham. 382 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:14,600 And the Grahams really had a lot going for them. 383 00:17:14,620 --> 00:17:16,433 They had money, they had social status, 384 00:17:16,453 --> 00:17:18,249 and eventually they had nine children. 385 00:17:18,269 --> 00:17:20,046 All right, so, uh, what about her husband? 386 00:17:20,066 --> 00:17:23,266 What did he do? - Robert Graham was a judge in the Charleston area. 387 00:17:23,286 --> 00:17:26,246 And he had a pretty fascinating ancestral background. 388 00:17:26,266 --> 00:17:31,367 His great grandfather arrived in the Carolinas in 1735 from England. 389 00:17:31,387 --> 00:17:33,266 His grandfather fought in the Revolutionary War. 390 00:17:33,286 --> 00:17:35,146 And Robert himself was a colonel 391 00:17:35,166 --> 00:17:36,873 in the Confederate Army during the Civil War. 392 00:17:36,893 --> 00:17:38,600 All right, so a lot of history with this family. 393 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:39,947 Definitely. 394 00:17:39,967 --> 00:17:41,367 So I know when they got to my client's property, things went bad. 395 00:17:41,387 --> 00:17:43,266 You told me that, but, what about before that? 396 00:17:43,286 --> 00:17:44,433 Was everything okay? 397 00:17:44,453 --> 00:17:45,580 Unfortunately not. 398 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,166 Um, they actually lost their first daughter Harriet. 399 00:17:48,186 --> 00:17:51,347 Uh, she was only six months old in 1857. 400 00:17:51,367 --> 00:17:53,367 A few years after that, they lost a son, Archie. 401 00:17:53,387 --> 00:17:54,714 He was only two years old. 402 00:17:54,734 --> 00:17:58,600 Then in 1874, Judge Graham himself passed away from yellow fever. 403 00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:00,246 He was only 41. 404 00:18:00,266 --> 00:18:01,967 And this was the judge's obituary. 405 00:18:01,987 --> 00:18:03,347 Okay. 406 00:18:03,367 --> 00:18:04,533 All right, so things are tough for this woman. 407 00:18:04,553 --> 00:18:05,947 She's got two dead kids now. 408 00:18:05,967 --> 00:18:07,367 Does it get better for her at all? 409 00:18:07,387 --> 00:18:08,580 No, they actually get worse. 410 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,246 Not long after Judge Graham died, 411 00:18:10,266 --> 00:18:13,066 uh, one of her children died from food poisoning 412 00:18:13,086 --> 00:18:14,800 as a result of eating bad chicken. 413 00:18:15,266 --> 00:18:16,347 Bad chicken? 414 00:18:16,367 --> 00:18:18,367 [Jeffrey] Yeah, and here's an article about that. 415 00:18:18,387 --> 00:18:20,117 [Steve] Okay, so now we got a widow. 416 00:18:20,137 --> 00:18:21,867 She's down to six kids, unfortunately. 417 00:18:21,887 --> 00:18:23,246 When does she remarry? 418 00:18:23,266 --> 00:18:26,967 Um, 1881 she remarried to Benjamin Muckenfuss, 419 00:18:26,987 --> 00:18:29,116 and they had one daughter named Nell. 420 00:18:29,136 --> 00:18:31,266 Uh, when did they actually come and, uh, 421 00:18:31,286 --> 00:18:32,580 purchase my client's property? 422 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,533 Yeah, in 1886, the family decided to leave Charleston 423 00:18:35,553 --> 00:18:36,980 and move up to the Summerville area, 424 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,347 and they bought a large tract of land 425 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:41,046 that included the property that your client owns now. 426 00:18:41,066 --> 00:18:42,273 [Steve] All right, so we know things went bad 427 00:18:42,293 --> 00:18:43,500 when they got on my client's property. 428 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,480 How soon? 429 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:45,714 Uh, pretty quick, actually. 430 00:18:45,734 --> 00:18:47,680 Eight days after they settled on the land, 431 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:50,000 uh, their daughter Nell died of whooping cough. 432 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:51,533 She was only four years old. 433 00:18:52,166 --> 00:18:53,980 This is her death certificate. 434 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,467 [Steve] All right, so this poor woman went through tragedy 435 00:18:56,487 --> 00:18:57,847 no one should have to deal with. 436 00:18:57,867 --> 00:19:00,166 But you mentioned on the phone about a murder. 437 00:19:00,186 --> 00:19:01,714 What the hell happened with that? 438 00:19:01,734 --> 00:19:06,867 Yes, actually, in 1907, um, Harriet's oldest surviving son Robert Graham Jr., 439 00:19:06,887 --> 00:19:07,947 uh, was murdered. 440 00:19:07,967 --> 00:19:10,347 Uh, he had entered a store in Stallsville, 441 00:19:10,367 --> 00:19:12,867 which is about a mile from your client's house. 442 00:19:12,887 --> 00:19:13,714 Okay. 443 00:19:13,734 --> 00:19:15,500 There was a man in there named Luke Chisolm, 444 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,347 he had been drinking. 445 00:19:16,367 --> 00:19:18,233 Uh, the two got into an argument... 446 00:19:18,634 --> 00:19:19,714 ...it turned violent. 447 00:19:19,734 --> 00:19:21,680 Uh, they rolled out the door into the street, 448 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:25,066 and Chisolm had an iron bar and beat him over the head. 449 00:19:25,086 --> 00:19:26,867 I swear, this woman endured more heartache 450 00:19:26,887 --> 00:19:28,266 than anybody should have to endure. 451 00:19:28,286 --> 00:19:29,947 How'd she handle all this? 452 00:19:29,967 --> 00:19:32,166 I think that was the straw that broke the camel's back. 453 00:19:32,186 --> 00:19:33,849 Uh, she died of pneumonia. 454 00:19:33,869 --> 00:19:35,513 Um, she was 74 years old. 455 00:19:35,533 --> 00:19:37,614 [Steve] It's amazing she lived as long as she did. 456 00:19:37,634 --> 00:19:40,867 I mean, just the stress alone I think I would've lost it a long time ago. 457 00:19:40,887 --> 00:19:44,800 Yeah, 74 is impressive to live that much of a life through tragedy. 458 00:19:49,367 --> 00:19:51,634 [Amy] I'm seeing that creepy smiling dude again. 459 00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:57,634 All of a sudden, his hair becomes long. 460 00:19:59,734 --> 00:20:02,500 And it has that curl, and it has a bow. 461 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,250 You know, back in the day. 462 00:20:04,270 --> 00:20:06,000 The dudes used to have that. 463 00:20:06,020 --> 00:20:08,146 It was wigs, usually. 464 00:20:08,166 --> 00:20:11,246 He's got that, like, kind of French 465 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:15,367 or maybe English style of clothing 466 00:20:15,387 --> 00:20:18,680 from the 1750s to the 1850s. 467 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:21,847 He's showing that this is in his family lineage. 468 00:20:21,867 --> 00:20:24,700 I think they were the original owners of the land here. 469 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,967 [bell ringing] 470 00:20:29,867 --> 00:20:32,000 [cameraman] Did you get a sense of when the smiley guy died? 471 00:20:33,867 --> 00:20:36,146 Like 1880s. 472 00:20:36,166 --> 00:20:38,734 He was relatively young, though. 473 00:20:39,266 --> 00:20:41,467 Like, did he die young? 474 00:20:42,367 --> 00:20:44,467 I think he was the last one to die. 475 00:20:46,533 --> 00:20:48,480 Or at least the last psychopath. 476 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:50,734 [chuckling] I don't know, in the family... 477 00:20:52,734 --> 00:20:54,347 [Steve] So far, I have a desperate client 478 00:20:54,367 --> 00:20:58,000 who believes the paranormal is causing her to lash out at her family, 479 00:20:58,020 --> 00:21:00,266 on a property where the original owner's son 480 00:21:00,286 --> 00:21:01,467 was beaten to death. 481 00:21:02,967 --> 00:21:05,433 But, I want to see if there's anything else. 482 00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:07,146 Searching through old records, 483 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:09,347 I find the previous owner of Traci's house 484 00:21:09,367 --> 00:21:12,800 was killed in a hit-and-run accident while out riding his bike. 485 00:21:17,066 --> 00:21:18,606 I'm heading over to meet a retired cop. 486 00:21:18,626 --> 00:21:20,146 She's looking into this case for me, 487 00:21:20,166 --> 00:21:23,800 and says the hit-and-run driver barely got a slap on the wrist. 488 00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:26,347 I know she's gonna piss me off, 489 00:21:26,367 --> 00:21:27,900 but I gotta find out what happened. 490 00:21:35,367 --> 00:21:37,367 [Steve] Well, Dr. Love. Thanks for looking into this for me. 491 00:21:37,387 --> 00:21:38,347 I appreciate that. 492 00:21:38,367 --> 00:21:39,714 [Dr. Love] Yes, sir. 493 00:21:39,734 --> 00:21:40,867 [Steve] So before we get to the hit-and-tun, 494 00:21:40,887 --> 00:21:42,046 what do we know about the victim? 495 00:21:42,066 --> 00:21:46,166 Well, William Adams Jr. was born in 1936. 496 00:21:46,186 --> 00:21:48,066 And this is his high school picture. 497 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:51,640 [Steve] What did he do for a living? 498 00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:53,953 [Dr. Love] He retired from the Air Force 499 00:21:53,973 --> 00:21:56,266 after 21 years, and when he retired, 500 00:21:56,286 --> 00:21:58,614 he became a civil engineer 501 00:21:58,634 --> 00:22:00,700 at the Charleston Navy Shipyard. 502 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,614 All right, Dr. Love. 503 00:22:01,634 --> 00:22:04,073 So let's get to the action and what happened. 504 00:22:04,093 --> 00:22:07,470 So William, Bill, was an avid bicycle rider, 505 00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:10,847 and early Saturday morning, July 7th, 1984, 506 00:22:10,867 --> 00:22:13,166 he was riding his bicycle on Dorchester Road. 507 00:22:13,186 --> 00:22:15,680 And he got hit by a car. 508 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:17,734 There was no witnesses at the time, 509 00:22:17,754 --> 00:22:19,900 and the driver fled the scene. 510 00:22:21,367 --> 00:22:23,480 [Steve] Geez, this guy died young. 47. 511 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:26,873 [Dr. Love] He did. - [Steve] So what was the official cause of death? 512 00:22:26,893 --> 00:22:30,266 The coroner came back and said that he had massive head injuries, 513 00:22:30,286 --> 00:22:33,447 um, broken bones, and internal injuries. 514 00:22:33,467 --> 00:22:35,867 All right, so I know they made an arrest on this case. 515 00:22:35,887 --> 00:22:36,614 Who was it? 516 00:22:36,634 --> 00:22:40,480 [Dr. Love] A 22 year old Gerard Geddis. 517 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:44,000 So you mentioned on the phone that this kid got a slap on the wrist. 518 00:22:44,020 --> 00:22:45,580 I mean, what was he charged with originally? 519 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,467 So originally, he was charged with reckless homicide, 520 00:22:48,487 --> 00:22:51,066 and leaving the scene of an accident. - Okay. 521 00:22:51,086 --> 00:22:53,146 And later the solicitor's office 522 00:22:53,166 --> 00:22:56,440 dropped the reckless homicide due to lack of evidence. 523 00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:59,734 The judge sentenced a year suspended on 30 days served. 524 00:22:59,754 --> 00:23:01,847 And that's it. - [Dr. Love] That's it. 525 00:23:01,867 --> 00:23:03,847 [Steve] In my book, there's no justice here. 526 00:23:03,867 --> 00:23:06,100 You hit someone and leave the scene of the crime, 527 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,233 that's gotta be more than 30 days in jail. 528 00:23:11,166 --> 00:23:14,233 [Amy] I'm seeing that older dead guy with the stomach pain again. 529 00:23:17,166 --> 00:23:19,467 He's maybe early 60s? 530 00:23:20,166 --> 00:23:22,756 Kind of balding, uh... 531 00:23:22,776 --> 00:23:25,347 ...brown hair, glasses... 532 00:23:25,367 --> 00:23:28,634 I think he used to maybe own this house? 533 00:23:31,867 --> 00:23:34,146 He doesn't know he died. 534 00:23:34,166 --> 00:23:37,233 He might've died in the 1980s, I'm thinking. 535 00:23:37,867 --> 00:23:40,723 This was a bad moment for him. 536 00:23:40,743 --> 00:23:43,580 He's very upset about something. 537 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,100 And he's acting a little wacked out right now. 538 00:23:46,867 --> 00:23:48,734 He's crying... 539 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,367 He feels like he lost everything... 540 00:23:52,387 --> 00:23:54,500 He had some depression issues. 541 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,733 Um... 542 00:23:56,266 --> 00:23:58,367 Now he's, like, brandishing a gun. 543 00:23:58,387 --> 00:23:59,714 Okay. 544 00:23:59,734 --> 00:24:01,433 What the [bleep]? 545 00:24:02,734 --> 00:24:04,440 For more information about the show, 546 00:24:04,460 --> 00:24:06,270 and if you need us to investigate 547 00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:08,080 unexplained activity in your home... 548 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,973 Please visit TravelChannel.com slash TheDeadFiles. 549 00:24:10,993 --> 00:24:13,867 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 550 00:24:13,887 --> 00:24:15,100 and we'll help if we can. 551 00:24:18,867 --> 00:24:21,100 [Steve] I just got a call from a local historian. 552 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:22,980 He says back before the Civil War, 553 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,123 plantation owners in this area formed something called slave patrols... 554 00:24:27,143 --> 00:24:31,246 ...that would literally go out and track down runaway slaves. 555 00:24:31,266 --> 00:24:34,533 He tells me these missions would often end up in bloodshed. 556 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,333 So, Randy, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 557 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,347 Let's start with the basics. 558 00:24:46,367 --> 00:24:47,447 I mean, this is the South. 559 00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:50,246 I'm sure the slave trade was pretty big here, right? 560 00:24:50,266 --> 00:24:55,000 Yeah, in fact, Charleston Port was the main importation point 561 00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:56,447 for enslaved people. 562 00:24:56,467 --> 00:24:58,634 Okay, so Randy, let's get to this slave patrol. 563 00:24:58,654 --> 00:25:00,046 What the hell is that? 564 00:25:00,066 --> 00:25:03,840 There was such a prevalence of slavery in Charleston 565 00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:07,103 that in 1704 the colonial legislature enacted a law 566 00:25:07,123 --> 00:25:10,367 that specified that there would be slave patrols. 567 00:25:10,387 --> 00:25:13,980 And every able-bodied young man 568 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,266 in this area would have been required at different times to serve on slave patrols. 569 00:25:19,286 --> 00:25:22,367 The slave patrols eventually evolved into the Ku Klux Klan. 570 00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:24,880 That was its origins. - Really? 571 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:28,373 How many people were in these patrols, and what did they do? 572 00:25:28,393 --> 00:25:31,586 They usually consisted of anywhere from 10-12 individuals. 573 00:25:31,606 --> 00:25:34,926 They would patrol the streets, they would patrol the highways, 574 00:25:34,946 --> 00:25:38,266 and if they encountered any enslaved people, or freed men, 575 00:25:38,286 --> 00:25:40,714 on the streets, or on the trails, 576 00:25:40,734 --> 00:25:44,266 they would accost them and insist on seeing their papers. 577 00:25:44,286 --> 00:25:45,980 Well, that was the question I was gonna ask you. 578 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,734 I mean, how the hell did they know who they were looking for? 579 00:25:47,754 --> 00:25:50,100 Thousands of ads were placed in papers, 580 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,634 in Charleston and in Summerville. 581 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:53,080 Um... 582 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:54,580 ...describing runaway slaves, 583 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,467 and offering rewards for anyone who could bring them back. 584 00:25:57,487 --> 00:25:58,880 Here's a sample of them. 585 00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:00,700 [Steve] So these were the actual ads that were in the paper? 586 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,680 [Randy] Yes. 587 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:03,773 Each one of these ads represents a human being 588 00:26:03,793 --> 00:26:05,867 who was trying to establish their own freedom. 589 00:26:05,887 --> 00:26:07,533 [Steve] Where would they try to hide out? 590 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:09,347 Any particular spot? 591 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:11,467 The safest place would've been in the marshes, 592 00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:12,780 because they're harder to get to, 593 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,447 and so the slave patrols would've been forced 594 00:26:15,467 --> 00:26:19,700 to pursue them in some really inhospitable territory. 595 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,700 What happens to these guys if they're caught? 596 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,714 [Randy] It's not good. 597 00:26:22,734 --> 00:26:25,347 If a runaway was caught, uh, for the first time... 598 00:26:25,367 --> 00:26:27,800 [Steve] Okay. - ...the punishment was, uh, a whipping. 599 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:30,250 And it was usually up to 40 lashes. 600 00:26:30,270 --> 00:26:32,680 But if you did it a second time, 601 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:35,100 they would take a branding iron with an R on it 602 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,867 and sizzle it into your right cheek. 603 00:26:37,887 --> 00:26:38,847 The R for... 604 00:26:38,867 --> 00:26:40,506 Runaway. - [Steve] Runaway, okay. 605 00:26:40,526 --> 00:26:42,146 And if you were caught a third time, 606 00:26:42,166 --> 00:26:44,880 they would cut off the enslaved person's ears. 607 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,166 If they were caught a fourth time and they were male, 608 00:26:47,186 --> 00:26:48,447 they could be castrated. 609 00:26:48,467 --> 00:26:51,614 And if they were, um, caught a fifth time, 610 00:26:51,634 --> 00:26:55,533 they would actually sever the Achilles tendon and disable them. 611 00:26:55,553 --> 00:26:57,166 I mean, it's like out of a horror movie. 612 00:26:57,186 --> 00:26:58,714 Right? - Yes. 613 00:26:58,734 --> 00:27:00,233 It would've been a nightmare. 614 00:27:04,867 --> 00:27:07,967 [Amy] I'm seeing the people around the campfire again. 615 00:27:09,734 --> 00:27:12,000 There was one or two Native American women, 616 00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:13,634 10-11 men. 617 00:27:15,734 --> 00:27:17,907 It's work-related. They're working. 618 00:27:17,927 --> 00:27:20,003 And then searching for something. 619 00:27:20,023 --> 00:27:22,080 They're looking for something. 620 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,467 And I'm hearing, I think it's a male, 621 00:27:24,487 --> 00:27:25,347 it's a male voice. 622 00:27:25,367 --> 00:27:28,166 I'm hearing, "Oh, not again!" 623 00:27:28,186 --> 00:27:29,780 Like, "Not again!" 624 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,734 "I," you know, "I just can't go through this again! 625 00:27:32,754 --> 00:27:35,433 I cannot go through this again! 626 00:27:36,867 --> 00:27:39,190 I can't deal with this anymore. 627 00:27:39,210 --> 00:27:41,533 There's no hope left." 628 00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,467 Are you able to tell yet, at all, what they're afraid of? 629 00:27:46,487 --> 00:27:47,967 The other men! 630 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,066 This dude has some panic going on. 631 00:27:52,867 --> 00:27:55,734 He's starting to experience fear. 632 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,066 So I'm thinking he died... 633 00:28:00,367 --> 00:28:01,533 ...a traumatic death. 634 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:13,080 I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, 635 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:15,734 but the smiling man attacking a living person 636 00:28:15,754 --> 00:28:17,533 concerns me the most. 637 00:28:18,533 --> 00:28:23,066 He's got his hands on the guy who's laying in the bed. 638 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,800 He is thin. 639 00:28:26,634 --> 00:28:29,367 All of his hair is back, 640 00:28:29,387 --> 00:28:31,246 in a ponytail. 641 00:28:31,266 --> 00:28:34,614 His eyes are sewn shut. 642 00:28:34,634 --> 00:28:39,333 See, he's got a huge, grotesque smile. 643 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,366 Yeah. 644 00:28:41,634 --> 00:28:43,734 And it's all kind of oversized. 645 00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,233 It's gross. 646 00:28:58,100 --> 00:28:59,166 Is this what you saw? 647 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,167 Yes. 648 00:29:13,367 --> 00:29:14,347 [Steve] Now that Amy and I 649 00:29:14,367 --> 00:29:16,046 have completed our investigations, 650 00:29:16,066 --> 00:29:19,000 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other, 651 00:29:19,020 --> 00:29:21,233 and our clients for the first time. 652 00:29:21,253 --> 00:29:23,467 So Amy, I'd like you to meet Traci... 653 00:29:24,266 --> 00:29:25,046 ...and Catherine. 654 00:29:25,066 --> 00:29:26,606 They're mother and daughter. 655 00:29:26,626 --> 00:29:28,146 They live here with David, 656 00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:31,467 Traci's husband and Catherine's dad. 657 00:29:32,266 --> 00:29:34,867 Now, this house was their dream come true, 658 00:29:34,887 --> 00:29:37,614 and they spent years saving for it. 659 00:29:37,634 --> 00:29:40,867 But now they believe whatever's here is ripping them apart. 660 00:29:40,887 --> 00:29:42,947 These guys are praying you can find a way 661 00:29:42,967 --> 00:29:46,233 to save their home, their sanity, and their family. 662 00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:49,166 Now, unless Amy's got some questions for you guys, 663 00:29:49,186 --> 00:29:50,367 she'll tell us about her walk. 664 00:29:55,266 --> 00:29:58,533 [Amy] The first thing that I'm going to discuss 665 00:29:58,553 --> 00:30:02,633 is what I encountered in the backyard. 666 00:30:02,653 --> 00:30:06,734 What I saw was a campfire back there. 667 00:30:07,166 --> 00:30:08,233 There was about... 668 00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:11,233 ...I don't know, 12 or 13 people. 669 00:30:11,634 --> 00:30:14,000 I got a lot of anxiety. 670 00:30:14,367 --> 00:30:16,480 A lot of stress. 671 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:22,066 The physical exhaustion that I felt from these individuals 672 00:30:22,086 --> 00:30:25,347 was like my legs felt like jelly. 673 00:30:25,367 --> 00:30:32,467 I think the living here would really, uh, feel this type of exhaustion. 674 00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:34,480 Traci, I mean, come on. 675 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,000 We talked about you feeling exhausted and anxious. 676 00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:38,046 Absolutely. 677 00:30:38,066 --> 00:30:42,533 Um, the exhaustion, the draining is indescribable. 678 00:30:42,553 --> 00:30:44,533 My anxiety, it does go through the roof. 679 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,233 It just feels bad. 680 00:30:49,166 --> 00:30:50,367 [Steve] Okay, what else we got? 681 00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:53,046 [Amy] So I come inside, 682 00:30:53,066 --> 00:30:55,233 and this little guy comes up. 683 00:30:55,734 --> 00:30:59,513 He is, like, uh, in his 60s. 684 00:30:59,533 --> 00:31:03,367 What I was thinking is that he was probably an owner. 685 00:31:03,387 --> 00:31:07,246 I got that he might've died in the 80s. 686 00:31:07,266 --> 00:31:12,000 I was worried that you guys may, uh, have experiences 687 00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:15,146 with depression if he's around. 688 00:31:15,166 --> 00:31:19,440 He has some stomach issues, like really bad. 689 00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:23,734 I think it has something to do with how he died. 690 00:31:24,867 --> 00:31:28,246 I... felt intense pain. 691 00:31:28,266 --> 00:31:32,173 Like I'd been hit on my left side hard. 692 00:31:32,193 --> 00:31:36,100 That would kind of bring in any back pain 693 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,347 that you may experience. 694 00:31:39,367 --> 00:31:44,166 I will wake up and feel like someone has just repeatedly kicked me 695 00:31:44,186 --> 00:31:46,347 in the kidney, overnight. 696 00:31:46,367 --> 00:31:50,367 Or I will wake up and feel like I can't walk and need a walker. 697 00:31:50,387 --> 00:31:52,146 I have gone and had every scan, 698 00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:55,166 all bloodwork, everything comes back normal. 699 00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:01,500 He did express that you guys may have seen him 700 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,733 on a couple of occasions. 701 00:32:03,753 --> 00:32:05,947 So it was in my bedroom. 702 00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:09,367 There was a guy standing behind me that I could see in the mirror. 703 00:32:09,387 --> 00:32:11,634 So I of course turn around, there's no one there. - Mmm-hmm. 704 00:32:11,654 --> 00:32:14,146 I look back in the mirror, no one's there. 705 00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:17,867 [Steve] All right, now Amy, you also said this guy can cause depression. 706 00:32:17,887 --> 00:32:20,867 One of the biggest reasons we were called in... 707 00:32:20,887 --> 00:32:23,867 ...is Traci here is having severe mood swings. 708 00:32:23,887 --> 00:32:25,580 And it's causing her to lash out. 709 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,533 I will be completely fine, and then all of a sudden, 710 00:32:30,266 --> 00:32:31,333 I will see red. 711 00:32:32,066 --> 00:32:33,233 And... 712 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,480 ...it's instant. 713 00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:37,246 I've tried to keep Catherine out of it, 714 00:32:37,266 --> 00:32:40,000 and I'm like, "I could never say that to my child. 715 00:32:40,020 --> 00:32:42,580 I would never hurt her like that." 716 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,734 And then it comes... it comes out of my mouth. 717 00:32:45,754 --> 00:32:47,614 'Cause I'm usually the one, you know, 718 00:32:47,634 --> 00:32:49,734 if no one else can, like, maybe calm her down or help her. 719 00:32:49,754 --> 00:32:52,000 But even in this, like, I can't. 720 00:32:52,020 --> 00:32:54,266 [quietly] No one deserves that. 721 00:32:54,286 --> 00:32:55,634 Not... no one. 722 00:32:57,266 --> 00:32:59,800 I would give my life for her in a second. 723 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,540 And to know that I make her feel like that 724 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,080 is the exact opposite of what I've done 725 00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,634 for the last 20 years, to try to protect her. 726 00:33:10,266 --> 00:33:11,706 So we have a guy who died in the 80s 727 00:33:11,726 --> 00:33:13,166 and maybe owned this house, all right? 728 00:33:13,186 --> 00:33:14,447 So... 729 00:33:14,467 --> 00:33:16,634 ...you might be talking about William Adams Jr. who 730 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:19,513 was born and raised here in South Carolina. 731 00:33:19,533 --> 00:33:22,940 Um, this is actually what he looked like in his high school days. 732 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,367 He was a military man and served in the Air Force for 21 years. 733 00:33:27,367 --> 00:33:30,266 Bill bought this house with his third wife in 1982. 734 00:33:30,286 --> 00:33:31,146 Ah! 735 00:33:31,166 --> 00:33:35,146 But tragedy hit on July 7th, 1984. 736 00:33:35,166 --> 00:33:37,066 Now that morning, Bill went out for a bike ride 737 00:33:37,086 --> 00:33:38,580 on an isolated road, 738 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,166 when suddenly he was hit by a car. 739 00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:43,123 Now, the driver took off, and by the time 740 00:33:43,143 --> 00:33:45,928 the paramedics got to the scene, he was dead. 741 00:33:45,948 --> 00:33:48,734 Oh! Hmm... - Now, Bill was just 47 years old. 742 00:33:48,754 --> 00:33:50,714 Oh, he was young! 743 00:33:50,734 --> 00:33:54,734 [Steve] The coroner's report showed he had massive internal injuries. 744 00:33:54,754 --> 00:33:56,967 They estimated he was probably hit at about 745 00:33:56,987 --> 00:33:58,080 45 miles per hour. 746 00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:01,000 The good news is, the cops found the low-life who hit him. 747 00:34:01,020 --> 00:34:02,447 He was a 22 year old kid 748 00:34:02,467 --> 00:34:04,600 who eventually got sentenced to a year in prison, 749 00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:07,347 but only ended up doing 30 days. 750 00:34:07,367 --> 00:34:10,447 Um... yeah. Here's an article about that. - Damn! 751 00:34:10,467 --> 00:34:13,467 [Steve] Now this guy's left behind a wife and two sons. 752 00:34:13,487 --> 00:34:15,266 One of the sons was only three years old. 753 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,800 I'm... sad. 754 00:34:18,367 --> 00:34:19,466 For him. 755 00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:20,533 [Amy] Wow! 756 00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,634 [Steve] All right, so what else? 757 00:34:24,654 --> 00:34:27,246 So there's this other male. 758 00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:29,467 He's the one I'm concerned about here. 759 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:33,266 His family goes very way back here, 760 00:34:33,286 --> 00:34:34,980 maybe about 200 years. 761 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,266 They were the original owners of the land in this area. 762 00:34:39,286 --> 00:34:42,347 He is very odd-looking. 763 00:34:42,367 --> 00:34:44,857 I saw him in a couple of different forms. 764 00:34:44,877 --> 00:34:47,367 Uh, but the one that really stood out to me 765 00:34:47,387 --> 00:34:49,634 was the one where he has this, like, 766 00:34:49,654 --> 00:34:51,734 really grotesque smile. 767 00:34:53,066 --> 00:34:57,246 His eyes are sewn, uh, shut. 768 00:34:57,266 --> 00:34:59,756 Uh, and they're kind of caved in. 769 00:34:59,776 --> 00:35:02,928 He's got this smile on his face, 770 00:35:02,948 --> 00:35:06,100 and the smile is not normal. 771 00:35:07,166 --> 00:35:09,146 Um, I'm terrified. 772 00:35:09,166 --> 00:35:11,980 I mean, how do you hear a description... 773 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 ...of someone who can morph and look like that? - [Steve] Right. 774 00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:16,166 And know they're in your home? 775 00:35:16,186 --> 00:35:16,847 Yeah. 776 00:35:16,867 --> 00:35:18,146 Well, you know what? 777 00:35:18,166 --> 00:35:20,266 I don't know enough to tell you who this guy might have been. 778 00:35:20,286 --> 00:35:22,467 But you said this guy was creepy. 779 00:35:22,967 --> 00:35:24,200 What does he do? 780 00:35:24,367 --> 00:35:26,246 I got that this... 781 00:35:26,266 --> 00:35:30,256 ...dead male is very keyed in on the male here. 782 00:35:30,276 --> 00:35:34,266 And everybody else who might be affected... 783 00:35:34,286 --> 00:35:37,947 it's just collateral damage. 784 00:35:37,967 --> 00:35:41,867 What I saw him doing was at some point there was a male 785 00:35:41,887 --> 00:35:43,614 laying on the couch. 786 00:35:43,634 --> 00:35:46,980 And all of a sudden, this guy comes out 787 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,867 and the living male is feeling like pain in his chest. 788 00:35:52,887 --> 00:35:56,480 It's because this guy was, like, attacking him. 789 00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,000 All right, so, I mean, there's only one male in the house. 790 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:01,980 But, uh, before we get to that... 791 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,367 ...I just wanna talk about some other stuff. 792 00:36:03,387 --> 00:36:06,046 Traci, you wake up with bruises, right? 793 00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:11,367 I will wake up with bruises usually right above my knee, and below. 794 00:36:11,387 --> 00:36:14,046 Bruises that can't be explained. 795 00:36:14,066 --> 00:36:15,390 [Steve] Hey Catherine, didn't you tell me 796 00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:16,734 that you saw some creature-looking thing 797 00:36:16,754 --> 00:36:18,347 from outside your bedroom window? 798 00:36:18,367 --> 00:36:20,246 [Catherine] Yes. - Tell Amy about that. 799 00:36:20,266 --> 00:36:21,847 [Catherine] One night, I was laying in my bed, 800 00:36:21,867 --> 00:36:25,000 and I had looked at my window, and I always keep my blinds closed. 801 00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:26,867 But I could see the outline of this thing, 802 00:36:26,887 --> 00:36:28,714 and, like he said, I called it a creature 803 00:36:28,734 --> 00:36:31,266 because it was human in the fact that there was, like, 804 00:36:31,286 --> 00:36:33,216 I could see a little bit of the torso, 805 00:36:33,236 --> 00:36:35,408 there were shoulders, a neck, and a head, 806 00:36:35,428 --> 00:36:37,337 but everything was taller and elongated 807 00:36:37,357 --> 00:36:39,246 so it was like humanoid... - Mmm. 808 00:36:39,266 --> 00:36:42,634 but it wasn't, like, that's not physically possible... 809 00:36:42,654 --> 00:36:44,146 [Amy] Right. - ...for a human shape. 810 00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:46,100 [Steve] Okay, you say it's targeting David. 811 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,347 What's it doing? 812 00:36:47,367 --> 00:36:52,867 So the other situation I saw was going on in the main bedroom. 813 00:36:52,887 --> 00:36:56,714 The smiling dude... - [cameraman] Mmm-hmm. 814 00:36:56,734 --> 00:37:00,967 [Amy]...is, was on him enough like this. - [cameraman] Mmm-hmm. 815 00:37:00,987 --> 00:37:03,333 [Amy] That thing is, like, molesting people. 816 00:37:05,367 --> 00:37:10,467 This male is feeling like he's being attacked. 817 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:13,246 On multiple occasions, 818 00:37:13,266 --> 00:37:15,889 Catherine and I have witnessed David... 819 00:37:15,909 --> 00:37:18,513 ...fighting something in his sleep. 820 00:37:18,533 --> 00:37:20,839 And he never has any recollection of it. 821 00:37:20,859 --> 00:37:23,166 He'll be saying, "Mmm-mmm, no, stop!" 822 00:37:23,186 --> 00:37:25,580 And he'll be pushing his arms. 823 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,233 I... I did have a sketch done of what I saw occurring in the bedroom. 824 00:37:38,467 --> 00:37:39,633 There you go. 825 00:37:43,166 --> 00:37:44,634 [Traci] I'm terrified. 826 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,080 It makes sense, 'cause that... that room 827 00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,900 has always been consistently uncomfortable. 828 00:37:53,367 --> 00:37:55,600 He's a good man. He doesn't deserve it. 829 00:37:55,620 --> 00:37:56,900 He doesn't... 830 00:37:57,734 --> 00:37:59,266 ...doesn't deserve it. 831 00:38:00,967 --> 00:38:02,847 [Steve] Now, I'm curious though. 832 00:38:02,867 --> 00:38:04,867 What would've happened if these guys didn't call us 833 00:38:04,887 --> 00:38:05,947 when it came to this thing? 834 00:38:05,967 --> 00:38:08,734 Like I said, he's really, really focused on him. 835 00:38:08,754 --> 00:38:11,734 Uh, so I think he would've just kept doing 836 00:38:11,754 --> 00:38:15,433 what he's doing until he got him. 837 00:38:17,867 --> 00:38:20,790 [Traci] I've watched him fight this... 838 00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:24,628 ...thing and I've walked out of the room. 839 00:38:24,648 --> 00:38:28,467 I let him sit there and fight this thing! 840 00:38:28,487 --> 00:38:30,467 And I walked out of the room! 841 00:38:32,367 --> 00:38:33,533 [in a high-pitched voice] Who does that? 842 00:38:34,867 --> 00:38:36,347 You can't blame yourself for that. 843 00:38:36,367 --> 00:38:37,734 [Amy] Mmm-mmm... - [Traci] Who does that? 844 00:38:37,754 --> 00:38:38,847 [Traci sniffling] 845 00:38:38,867 --> 00:38:41,157 [Steve] You thought you were doing the right thing. 846 00:38:41,177 --> 00:38:43,467 I was worried about my damn self, is what I was... 847 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,513 ...and my mood swings! 848 00:38:45,533 --> 00:38:47,734 And he's in there fighting... 849 00:38:47,754 --> 00:38:49,100 ...the freakin' devil. 850 00:39:00,634 --> 00:39:02,533 [Steve] All right, Traci, I'll give you the good news first. 851 00:39:03,266 --> 00:39:04,780 You're not crazy. 852 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,800 But the bad news is, you're not crazy. 853 00:39:07,867 --> 00:39:10,246 You've got some weird stuff going on here. 854 00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:13,533 Now, Amy's gonna let you know if there's any way you can stay here and fight, 855 00:39:13,553 --> 00:39:15,533 and if so, what's it gonna take. 856 00:39:20,533 --> 00:39:22,146 [Amy] Okay, so... 857 00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:26,614 The first thing, uh, to be done, 858 00:39:26,634 --> 00:39:29,867 we're going to take care of the people by the campfire 859 00:39:29,887 --> 00:39:32,367 who are present here in your yard. 860 00:39:33,266 --> 00:39:36,447 They all need to be moved on. 861 00:39:36,467 --> 00:39:39,166 I'd like you to bring in a medium and a holy man. 862 00:39:39,186 --> 00:39:41,849 What I'd like is for them to come, 863 00:39:41,869 --> 00:39:44,533 spend the day, move everybody on. 864 00:39:44,553 --> 00:39:45,780 Okay? 865 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,634 That will free you of the emotions that you're dealing with 866 00:39:51,654 --> 00:39:55,450 as far as any fear, anxiety, and stress. 867 00:39:55,470 --> 00:39:59,266 Oh, also the exhaustion will go down. 868 00:40:00,367 --> 00:40:04,123 As for, you know, the other former owner, 869 00:40:04,143 --> 00:40:07,880 so what I would like is for a psychic 870 00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:12,634 who is also a Reiki Master, to come and... 871 00:40:13,066 --> 00:40:14,167 ...get rid of him. 872 00:40:14,867 --> 00:40:17,000 When it comes to this... 873 00:40:17,634 --> 00:40:20,447 ...evil man, 874 00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:24,080 I want a male demonologist to come 875 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:28,467 and I want him to treat him as if he were a demon. 876 00:40:28,487 --> 00:40:30,900 This guy's gonna be obliterated. 877 00:40:31,367 --> 00:40:33,246 In the meantime... 878 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:37,206 ...I do not think it's safe for your husband to be here. 879 00:40:37,226 --> 00:40:41,166 It would be best if he could stay with friends or family 880 00:40:41,186 --> 00:40:44,100 until all of these things are completed. 881 00:40:46,467 --> 00:40:49,000 [Steve] That's a lot of work. Are you gonna do it? 882 00:40:49,467 --> 00:40:50,967 Yes, absolutely. 883 00:40:50,987 --> 00:40:51,780 Okay. 884 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,634 [Traci] I mean, this guy's got to go. 885 00:40:54,467 --> 00:40:56,447 It's so much easier knowing. 886 00:40:56,467 --> 00:40:59,800 Knowing that, you know, there's a solution right around the corner, 887 00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:02,146 and, like, it'll happen. 888 00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:05,166 [Steve] Okay, Amy. When they do all this, will all the fighting stop? 889 00:41:05,186 --> 00:41:07,734 So that they can go back to being a loving family? 890 00:41:07,754 --> 00:41:09,100 Yes. 891 00:41:11,467 --> 00:41:13,540 [Traci] You have changed our lives. 892 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,614 You have changed the trajectory of it, 893 00:41:15,634 --> 00:41:20,233 the path of it, and how we're gonna be when all of this is over. 894 00:41:21,467 --> 00:41:24,166 Finally, we'll have some peace. 895 00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,146 And feel normal. 896 00:41:26,166 --> 00:41:27,967 And it's because of both of you, 897 00:41:27,987 --> 00:41:29,417 so thank you so much. 898 00:41:29,437 --> 00:41:30,867 You're welcome very much. 899 00:41:32,066 --> 00:41:34,890 [Amy] Traci and her family have a lot of work to do. 900 00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:37,395 But I'm confident if they follow my advice 901 00:41:37,415 --> 00:41:39,880 and bring in the people I recommended, 902 00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:42,100 they should be able to live in their home 903 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,967 safely and in peace. 70164

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