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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:51,385 I guess you're asking yourselves why I came down those stairs, 2 00:00:52,302 --> 00:00:57,057 walked across these boards, ambled past these props, 3 00:00:57,516 --> 00:01:01,770 these theater trunks cluttered with memories of a thousand opening nights. 4 00:01:03,313 --> 00:01:05,315 I guess you're asking yourself, 5 00:01:05,649 --> 00:01:09,152 "What does that have to do with tonight's show?" 6 00:01:09,987 --> 00:01:12,781 Well, I'll tell you. Nothing. 7 00:01:31,842 --> 00:01:36,096 My name's Hal Needham. My face you will not recognize. 8 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:38,140 But I bet you've seen a lot of my work. 9 00:01:38,849 --> 00:01:40,684 For 20 years I've been a Hollywood stuntman. 10 00:01:46,565 --> 00:01:47,774 Not too bad, huh? 11 00:01:47,858 --> 00:01:49,610 When a stuntman does that kind of driving, 12 00:01:49,693 --> 00:01:51,403 he better have his act together 13 00:01:51,486 --> 00:01:52,946 because there's no room for error. 14 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:08,629 But recently, I graduated. 15 00:02:08,712 --> 00:02:09,963 I directed a movie. 16 00:02:10,547 --> 00:02:13,258 And that movie starred a dear friend of mine, 17 00:02:13,342 --> 00:02:16,011 my old roommate, a good old boy 18 00:02:16,178 --> 00:02:18,972 that probably you people are gonna recognize like that. 19 00:02:28,482 --> 00:02:30,359 Ladies and gentlemen, Burt Reynolds. 20 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:37,115 Burt Reynolds, the most exciting star on the screen today. 21 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:43,372 Burt Reynolds is Gator McKlusky. 22 00:02:43,705 --> 00:02:46,625 Whether he's racing the law or chasing the ladies. 23 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:56,927 Burt Reynolds, the quarterback who'll tackle anything. 24 00:03:00,097 --> 00:03:01,977 You saw Charlie Bronson in the lens. 25 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:06,958 Now, you're Burt Reynolds' stuntman. 26 00:03:06,978 --> 00:03:08,710 Where does Burt like to draw the line as far as 27 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:10,482 doing his own stunts are concerned? 28 00:03:10,565 --> 00:03:13,360 Well, actually, I've never seen Burt draw the line. 29 00:03:14,653 --> 00:03:17,989 He'll do just damn near anything you want done. 30 00:03:18,073 --> 00:03:20,242 The insurance companies draw the line sometimes. 31 00:03:20,325 --> 00:03:23,120 But really and truly he doesn't draw the line. 32 00:03:23,245 --> 00:03:26,123 I've seen him do some things which is flat scary. 33 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:27,791 I mean, there's no other way to put it. 34 00:03:38,468 --> 00:03:40,148 What is the job of a stuntman? 35 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:42,619 The objective of the stunt guy 36 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:45,142 is to come in and look as much as you can like the actor. 37 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:48,770 They dress you like him, even fix your hair, whatever. 38 00:03:48,854 --> 00:03:51,773 And whatever they want to do, whether it'd be a horse fall or high fall 39 00:03:51,857 --> 00:03:54,067 or who knows, a fight, 40 00:03:54,151 --> 00:03:58,864 be able to do it as many times as you can do it without getting hurt. 41 00:04:00,282 --> 00:04:01,471 In the old days they would go out 42 00:04:01,491 --> 00:04:05,287 and they would shoot four or five days with all stuntmen. No actors. 43 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:07,998 The wide shots were for stunt people. 44 00:04:17,549 --> 00:04:20,719 And then they'll bring the actors out and they'd do the tight shots 45 00:04:20,802 --> 00:04:21,887 and the medium shots. 46 00:04:22,721 --> 00:04:25,098 If you're the biggest actor in the world, 47 00:04:25,182 --> 00:04:27,726 you want to have the best stuntman 48 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:29,311 in the world next to you. Why not? 49 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:34,858 Those goddamn bastards! Told me they weren't gonna shoot back! 50 00:04:47,078 --> 00:04:49,206 Burt trusted Hal and knew 51 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:51,082 that Hal was gonna do the stunts 52 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:52,834 that would really make him look good. 53 00:05:12,020 --> 00:05:16,024 Hal and Burt were guys who appeared at a time in the '70's 54 00:05:16,107 --> 00:05:18,276 when anything can happen. 55 00:05:18,944 --> 00:05:22,113 Burt was an actor with all the accoutrements that an actor has. 56 00:05:22,197 --> 00:05:23,907 And Hal Needham was a man of action. 57 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:24,991 Ready? 58 00:05:26,243 --> 00:05:30,163 I've seen a lot of actors have good relationships with stuntmen, 59 00:05:30,247 --> 00:05:31,998 but never like Hal and Burt did. 60 00:05:33,375 --> 00:05:35,126 That was the closest relationship 61 00:05:35,210 --> 00:05:36,920 I ever saw in the picture business. 62 00:05:37,712 --> 00:05:40,715 But you don't wanna get too close to an actor. I don't believe... 63 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,471 It's not gonna work out very good. 64 00:05:48,265 --> 00:05:52,561 Okay, Hal. How did you meet Burt? Like, on Smokey and the Bear? 65 00:05:53,103 --> 00:05:55,188 Smokey and the Bandit. And the Bandit. 66 00:05:55,272 --> 00:05:59,776 Was that something that he's found as a property and then looked for you 67 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:02,320 to complete the movie or did you come first? 68 00:06:02,445 --> 00:06:04,656 No, I wrote Smokey and the Bandit. Oh. 69 00:06:05,282 --> 00:06:07,742 I understand you directed this movie. Yeah. 70 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:10,120 This is kind of an unusual case. Isn't it, Hal? 71 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:11,977 I mean, I've heard of actors turning director, 72 00:06:11,997 --> 00:06:13,665 I've heard of writers turning director, 73 00:06:13,748 --> 00:06:15,000 but never a stuntman. 74 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:21,381 I was doing a film with Burt down in Georgia called Gator. 75 00:06:22,507 --> 00:06:24,968 That's the thread that put Smokey together. 76 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,014 We spent a lot of time in the swamp. 77 00:06:29,097 --> 00:06:32,225 And I remember everyone said, "Weren't you scared in the swamp?" 78 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:34,227 Only Needham was from down there, 79 00:06:34,311 --> 00:06:35,896 the rest of us were from other places. 80 00:06:35,979 --> 00:06:37,522 He was like at home. 81 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:42,360 We had a lot of Coors beer we'd brought down from Los Angeles. 82 00:06:42,986 --> 00:06:44,906 Because in those days, at the end of the work day 83 00:06:44,988 --> 00:06:45,989 everyone got a beer. 84 00:06:46,615 --> 00:06:49,117 Needham and I were talking about how the Coors kept 85 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,036 disappearing from our minibars. 86 00:06:51,995 --> 00:06:54,164 So we finally realized that our housekeepers 87 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:56,333 were helping themselves to our beer. 88 00:06:56,499 --> 00:06:59,628 So we asked them and they said, "What? It's Coors beer, man." 89 00:06:59,711 --> 00:07:00,754 "What are you doing?" 90 00:07:00,837 --> 00:07:04,674 She said, "No, I get, like, $20 a six-pack for this beer down here" 91 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:05,884 "'cause you can't get it." 92 00:07:06,551 --> 00:07:08,678 Hal and I looked at each other and we said, "Well," 93 00:07:08,845 --> 00:07:11,181 "maybe we should make a movie" 94 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:13,850 "about getting Coors beer to the East Coast." 95 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:16,937 At the time, I really had some doubts 96 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:18,897 whether this was even true or not. 97 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:22,275 In other words, I don't know how you prohibit a beer company 98 00:07:22,359 --> 00:07:26,363 from shipping beer from one geographical location to the other. 99 00:07:27,489 --> 00:07:28,720 So we're like, "Let's just do a trucking movie" 100 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:30,450 "with Coors and fast cars" 101 00:07:30,533 --> 00:07:32,243 "and let's see what we can come up with." 102 00:07:32,327 --> 00:07:35,246 And at that time the trucking industry was very romantic. 103 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:40,543 Modern truckers and last American cowboys... 104 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:46,290 He told me he was writing a screenplay. 105 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:49,386 Everybody said, "Nice pipe dream, Hal." 106 00:07:49,886 --> 00:07:52,681 In between shots he'd be over in his room and he's scribbling down... 107 00:07:52,764 --> 00:07:54,004 I said, "What are you doing?" 108 00:07:54,057 --> 00:07:55,475 He'd say, "I'm writing a story." 109 00:07:55,558 --> 00:07:57,102 And he told me a little about it 110 00:07:57,185 --> 00:07:59,854 and I thought, "Okay, whatever," you know. 111 00:08:00,188 --> 00:08:04,776 They handed me this mash of legal pad notes 112 00:08:04,859 --> 00:08:06,619 and scenes and characters and all this stuff. 113 00:08:06,903 --> 00:08:10,407 I think my mother typed up the script for Smokey and the Bandit. 114 00:08:12,951 --> 00:08:15,036 We played with different names for the movie, 115 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,830 but I called it The Bandit at one point 116 00:08:16,913 --> 00:08:18,373 or Bandit. 117 00:08:18,456 --> 00:08:21,543 I wanted to do, hopefully, action comedy. 118 00:08:21,626 --> 00:08:24,337 I just wanted to throw something on the screen 119 00:08:24,421 --> 00:08:26,756 that people can be entertained with. 120 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,175 And I think that laughter is contagious, 121 00:08:29,259 --> 00:08:31,261 and I think people enjoy action. 122 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:32,929 Not violence, action. 123 00:08:35,473 --> 00:08:37,684 We were gonna sell it to a company called AIP 124 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:40,228 which made small exploitative genre movies. 125 00:08:40,311 --> 00:08:42,814 That was its first incarnation. 126 00:08:42,939 --> 00:08:44,441 We wanted to do something on our own. 127 00:08:46,568 --> 00:08:47,569 Look out! 128 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:55,932 Hal Needham had made a living sort of falling on his head 129 00:08:55,952 --> 00:08:57,954 for 20 or 30 years. 130 00:08:58,288 --> 00:09:00,707 And he's a nice guy, not a Rhodes scholar. 131 00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:07,380 Hal said to me, "I'm getting too old" 132 00:09:07,464 --> 00:09:09,549 "to bury my head in the dirt anymore." 133 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:15,221 In the back of his mind, he always wanted to be either a star or a director. 134 00:09:15,805 --> 00:09:19,726 Every stuntman, every second unit guy, every cameraman, 135 00:09:19,809 --> 00:09:21,169 everybody... You know the old joke. 136 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:22,507 Everyone wants to be a director. 137 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:24,814 He had the script that he had written 138 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:26,858 and he took it to Universal Studios 139 00:09:26,941 --> 00:09:28,701 and he said, "I want to direct this movie." 140 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:32,572 People that ran the studios... 141 00:09:32,655 --> 00:09:35,408 They, "He's a stuntman, he can't direct a movie." 142 00:09:35,492 --> 00:09:37,077 "What are they talking about?" 143 00:09:40,163 --> 00:09:43,625 Unless you have that movie star, that bankable movie star 144 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:47,670 that says, "I want to be the Bandit, " you're not gonna get it made. 145 00:09:50,632 --> 00:09:53,426 And they said, "It's a nice script." 146 00:09:53,510 --> 00:09:55,970 "Do you think you can get your roommate to star in this?" 147 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:58,723 Hiya. How are ya? 148 00:10:00,183 --> 00:10:02,018 Big star. Big star. 149 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:08,608 Burt and I were on the show together 150 00:10:08,691 --> 00:10:10,944 and I came in one night and I say, "You know, Burt," 151 00:10:11,027 --> 00:10:14,531 I said, "I gotta find me an igloo, a teepee or something to live in" 152 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,491 "'cause I just got thrown out of the house." 153 00:10:16,574 --> 00:10:17,951 And he said, "Hal, come on over." 154 00:10:18,034 --> 00:10:19,390 "Stay at my place for a couple of days." 155 00:10:19,410 --> 00:10:20,620 "I don't care." 156 00:10:20,787 --> 00:10:23,248 My father moved in to Burt Reynolds' house. 157 00:10:23,331 --> 00:10:25,291 He was gonna stay there for a week or two, 158 00:10:25,375 --> 00:10:28,086 and then he was there for, like, 11 years. 159 00:10:29,337 --> 00:10:32,090 I mean, if you could imagine putting together 160 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:34,592 a bachelor pad back in... It was... 161 00:10:36,136 --> 00:10:38,346 I think of all the homes that Burt has had, 162 00:10:38,429 --> 00:10:40,390 I think I like that one the best. 163 00:10:41,683 --> 00:10:44,310 The first thing I think that people 164 00:10:44,394 --> 00:10:46,104 would see when they go into the bedroom 165 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,691 is the mirrors on the ceiling. 166 00:10:51,151 --> 00:10:55,155 They were both single and had a lot of girlfriends 167 00:10:56,239 --> 00:10:57,448 and a lot of fun. 168 00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:01,035 Bathroom is big. 169 00:11:01,744 --> 00:11:04,205 And it too has mirrors. 170 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:06,791 And tile, and I happened to... 171 00:11:06,875 --> 00:11:10,295 Tile is my second favorite thing in life. 172 00:11:10,378 --> 00:11:11,838 It just gives me joy. Tile. 173 00:11:12,088 --> 00:11:14,465 If I could spend the rest of my life in a room, 174 00:11:14,549 --> 00:11:16,092 it would be tiled and mirrored. 175 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:20,138 The dining room is early Indian. 176 00:11:20,221 --> 00:11:22,807 I mean, Indian kind of design. 177 00:11:23,933 --> 00:11:26,060 I think it's kind of classy. 178 00:11:26,144 --> 00:11:29,355 Third favorite thing in my life is Indians. 179 00:11:30,190 --> 00:11:31,941 If I could find an Indian with a mirror, 180 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:33,526 who did tile work, 181 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:36,696 I would probably be happy for the rest of my life. 182 00:11:41,951 --> 00:11:44,454 I took the script home and gave it to Burt. 183 00:11:44,621 --> 00:11:45,768 Burt looked at it and he said, 184 00:11:45,788 --> 00:11:47,937 "Hal, that's the worst dialogue I've ever read in my life." 185 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:50,793 But he said the overall concept was pretty good. 186 00:11:50,877 --> 00:11:53,755 He said, "If you can take my name power" 187 00:11:53,838 --> 00:11:57,050 "and go get the money and if somebody is fool enough to let you direct it," 188 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:59,135 "says you can direct it." 189 00:11:59,636 --> 00:12:01,784 And Burt said, "You know there's only one man in America" 190 00:12:01,804 --> 00:12:03,723 "who can direct this movie, it's Hal Needham." 191 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:08,478 We want Burt. We want Burt. 192 00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:10,801 Had Burt said Adolf Hitler, I would've agreed. 193 00:12:11,606 --> 00:12:13,441 Burt was a big movie star. 194 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:15,443 We want Burt. 195 00:12:15,526 --> 00:12:18,112 Are you here to see Burt? Who else? Who else? 196 00:12:19,155 --> 00:12:23,660 What happened was, there was so much goodness in Burt Reynolds 197 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,411 that he made people happy. 198 00:12:25,703 --> 00:12:27,872 And that's a natural gift that he had. 199 00:12:28,665 --> 00:12:32,335 Burt Reynolds, tough, sexy, superstar. 200 00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:37,298 Is it a lot of pressure, Burt, being this kind of a sex symbol? 201 00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:41,511 He struck such a chord with the American public. 202 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:44,347 We're so glad... I work alone. 203 00:12:47,058 --> 00:12:51,229 The humor and the joy, and the honesty, it was real. 204 00:12:51,354 --> 00:12:55,483 So he became the number one star in the world. 205 00:13:09,539 --> 00:13:11,124 Just one on the cheek? Huh? 206 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,384 I just think I'm the best Burt Reynolds there is. 207 00:13:38,776 --> 00:13:39,986 Hello. 208 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:41,487 Hello, sweetheart. 209 00:13:48,911 --> 00:13:50,121 You like my bear? 210 00:13:51,122 --> 00:13:52,602 If he gave you a few acting tips. 211 00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:57,400 You should just come tonight 212 00:13:57,420 --> 00:13:59,152 instead of running off to be with your girlfriend. 213 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:01,321 Where were the kids when you told them? Oh, I don't know. 214 00:14:01,341 --> 00:14:03,239 What do you mean you don't know? Were they sitting there? 215 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:04,260 No, of course not. 216 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:06,679 You try carrying that around with you! 217 00:14:06,763 --> 00:14:07,972 Son of a bitch! 218 00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:11,059 I couldn't help it, damn it. 219 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:13,853 Scene. 220 00:14:18,441 --> 00:14:22,445 It's wonderful to see somebody tackle something this difficult 221 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:24,655 and make it work. 222 00:14:25,948 --> 00:14:30,745 Fear of failure is something that's ingrained in all of us. 223 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:33,289 You gotta fight through it 224 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,416 in order to be better. 225 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:39,345 In a nutshell, could you tell me 226 00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:41,506 what the story of Smokey and the Bandit is? 227 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:47,261 I couldn't tell you what the story is of Smokey and the Bandit 228 00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:49,138 if you put a gun to my head. 229 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:14,789 We had done two Burt Reynolds movies at United Artists, 230 00:15:14,872 --> 00:15:17,417 a picture called Gator and a picture called White Lightning. 231 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:20,753 And it was the same movie over and over again. 232 00:15:20,837 --> 00:15:24,882 He was the good old boy, slightly on the other side of the line 233 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:26,134 regarding law and order. 234 00:15:26,217 --> 00:15:29,095 Gator. Gator McKlusky. 235 00:15:30,054 --> 00:15:32,223 Shirley. Shirley. How are you, darling? 236 00:15:32,306 --> 00:15:33,766 All right. Well, hi there. 237 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:37,270 I didn't wanna play good old boys for the rest of my life. 238 00:15:37,353 --> 00:15:42,984 Same time I was offered a film that had "Get the tuxedo out" 239 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:44,652 written all over it. 240 00:15:44,735 --> 00:15:46,487 It was a career-changing part. 241 00:15:48,239 --> 00:15:50,908 I said no, and nobody could believe I said no. 242 00:15:50,992 --> 00:15:52,452 My agent couldn't believe it... 243 00:15:55,037 --> 00:15:56,706 It wasn't a question of money. 244 00:15:57,874 --> 00:16:02,879 They were asking... They were offering me more money than Hal was, 245 00:16:04,714 --> 00:16:08,176 but I'd promised Hal that I'd do this film. 246 00:16:08,259 --> 00:16:10,970 And I'm gonna give credit to my roommate. 247 00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:15,308 I mean, he put his career, his everything on the line, 248 00:16:15,391 --> 00:16:17,393 so that I could have a shot at directing this. 249 00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:20,563 Candidly, I could not determine 250 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:23,357 whether Hal had the ability to direct a movie or not. 251 00:16:24,192 --> 00:16:28,196 Universal reluctantly agreed to make the picture. 252 00:16:30,114 --> 00:16:32,674 If you're gonna do a bootlegging movie, you need a blocker. 253 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:35,828 You got a truck driver and you got a blocking car guy. You got two. 254 00:16:35,912 --> 00:16:38,206 I don't remember whether Burt or Hal 255 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:40,416 or both of them suggested Jerry Reed. 256 00:16:40,958 --> 00:16:42,001 Hello. 257 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:50,420 Jerry was a character. 258 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:52,053 Hello, ladies. 259 00:16:52,178 --> 00:16:53,818 You know, and then you gotta have a girl. 260 00:16:54,055 --> 00:16:55,056 Hi. 261 00:16:55,389 --> 00:16:56,389 Who are you? 262 00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:06,567 I wanted Sally Field and they had 263 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:08,444 a lot of people that were against that. 264 00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:10,655 They kept saying she's not sexy. 265 00:17:11,239 --> 00:17:16,160 And I said, "This nun is dangerously sexy." 266 00:17:18,788 --> 00:17:20,706 And then we had to have someone chasing him. 267 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:26,879 My wish was with the Sheriff, let's put somebody in this movie that doesn't belong. 268 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:32,009 And I made it just as incongruous as it could be. 269 00:17:32,093 --> 00:17:34,387 First of all, I got a pencil mustache. 270 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:37,306 For a sheriff? A Southern sheriff with a pencil mustache? 271 00:17:38,599 --> 00:17:41,477 When Hal left to do Smokey and the Bandit, 272 00:17:42,645 --> 00:17:45,231 Hilton Green at Universal told Needham, he said, 273 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,942 "I hope you got your roller-skates on 'cause you can't do it." 274 00:17:49,735 --> 00:17:51,445 They had no faith in Hal as a director. 275 00:17:53,155 --> 00:17:57,743 All the politics created a tremendous amount of pressure on Hal. 276 00:17:57,827 --> 00:17:59,829 He'd put his reputation on the line 277 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:01,831 to get Smokey and the Bandit done. 278 00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:05,418 My father, he didn't play the game. 279 00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:08,629 He wasn't a Hollywood guy. He was who he was. 280 00:18:09,672 --> 00:18:11,404 He said, "If I didn't do Smokey and the Bandit," 281 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:14,927 "I'd probably be picking up cans on the side of the road for a living." 282 00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:18,180 We have some childhood photos of you, 283 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:20,850 and I thought maybe, Arnold, see if you can recognize. 284 00:18:23,811 --> 00:18:25,021 I was a farm kid. 285 00:18:25,396 --> 00:18:29,859 All I remember about that part of my life is using the mule's backside 286 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:33,446 as the compass up and down some cotton rows in Arkansas. 287 00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:41,996 Was there any time at all for hobbies or anything that 288 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:45,416 would give you pleasure or be fun? Hobbies? 289 00:18:45,499 --> 00:18:46,959 Hobbies? 290 00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:50,504 I can tell you've never seen a sharecropper. 291 00:18:51,088 --> 00:18:54,759 Listen, just getting food on the table, 292 00:18:54,842 --> 00:18:56,719 staying warm in the wintertime 293 00:18:57,887 --> 00:18:59,430 was a major accomplishment. 294 00:19:00,723 --> 00:19:04,393 My childhood, man, you gotta know 295 00:19:04,518 --> 00:19:07,605 being a sharecropper's son is the bottom of the totem pole. 296 00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:09,732 There's nothing lower than that. 297 00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:13,277 I think he told me they had dirt for floors. 298 00:19:13,569 --> 00:19:18,366 But he was just very smart for somebody with a very limited education. 299 00:19:18,449 --> 00:19:20,785 He told me one of his friends once said, 300 00:19:20,868 --> 00:19:23,871 "I'd never seen anybody do so much with so few tools." 301 00:19:26,707 --> 00:19:30,252 I was in the 82nd Airborne, Fort Bragg, North Carolina. 302 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:33,339 But after about two and a half years 303 00:19:33,422 --> 00:19:35,841 I could see that I got no credit 304 00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,761 for my creativity or being a great soldier. 305 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,221 And I was a good soldier. 306 00:19:40,805 --> 00:19:42,973 I said, "Gotta be a better way." 307 00:19:43,766 --> 00:19:46,268 "I'm going west till my hat floats." 308 00:19:46,435 --> 00:19:49,480 And next morning I was in my car heading for California. 309 00:19:49,563 --> 00:19:53,442 I never worked in a movie, but I had all that experience. 310 00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:55,444 I decided I was gonna be a stuntman. 311 00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,533 When I got my first chance, I was ready. 312 00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:04,704 I did a thing where I'm in an airplane, 313 00:20:04,787 --> 00:20:06,267 the guy's riding along on a horseback 314 00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:09,291 and I dive out of the airplane, or jump out the airplane, 315 00:20:09,375 --> 00:20:12,002 and knock him off the horse, called a bulldog. 316 00:20:23,973 --> 00:20:26,267 They paid me a lot of money. 317 00:20:26,976 --> 00:20:30,604 People said I couldn't do it 'cause I was too small, too dumb. 318 00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:33,816 I always had to prove otherwise. 319 00:20:34,191 --> 00:20:35,401 Hal Needham. 320 00:20:42,199 --> 00:20:44,368 We had 30 days to make a great movie. 321 00:20:48,038 --> 00:20:50,166 The film commission has been very aggressive 322 00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:51,792 in terms of luring not only us, 323 00:20:51,876 --> 00:20:52,982 but a lot of film companies here. 324 00:20:53,002 --> 00:20:54,086 It's very helpful. 325 00:20:54,170 --> 00:20:55,963 They've closed highways for us, 326 00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:58,841 they've torn up part of an old bridge for us 327 00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:00,426 that we're gonna throw a car across. 328 00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:01,594 It's just terrific. 329 00:21:01,677 --> 00:21:03,596 Mark. Hold all the noise, 330 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:06,348 all the talk, everything. Quiet. 331 00:21:07,892 --> 00:21:10,728 The entire picture was shot 16, 17 miles away 332 00:21:10,811 --> 00:21:12,438 from the center of downtown Atlanta. 333 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:15,274 In the motion picture business, you put up a sign 334 00:21:15,357 --> 00:21:16,672 that says, "Entering Mississippi," 335 00:21:16,692 --> 00:21:17,972 and you're entering Mississippi. 336 00:21:20,321 --> 00:21:23,908 But with respect and affection for Hal, 337 00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:26,952 this was as new to him, really, as it was to me. 338 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:29,371 When we went to work the first morning, 339 00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:32,625 I got up, sort of, stood around waiting for things to happen. 340 00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:36,670 The production manager asked me what we should do, 341 00:21:36,754 --> 00:21:39,298 and I didn't have a clue. 342 00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:40,674 I remember the first day. 343 00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:42,885 Hal had pulled up to the location. 344 00:21:43,552 --> 00:21:46,180 Sitting under a tree in a director's chair 345 00:21:46,263 --> 00:21:51,060 with his Fleetwood stretch gold limo next to him 346 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:53,479 was Jackie Gleason. 347 00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:55,282 Jackie was sitting in this director's chair 348 00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:57,942 wearing a black Gucci leisure suit 349 00:21:58,025 --> 00:21:59,318 with a red carnation. 350 00:21:59,401 --> 00:22:00,694 No one was there. 351 00:22:00,778 --> 00:22:02,178 He was the first person on the set. 352 00:22:04,198 --> 00:22:05,838 Was directing anything at all 353 00:22:05,908 --> 00:22:07,910 like you thought it was going to be? 354 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,703 Well, I had no fear going in, 355 00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:13,582 I mean, we're not doing Gone with the Wind or Fiddler on the Roof. 356 00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:15,251 It's action comedy. 357 00:22:15,751 --> 00:22:19,338 Just light it for the color and let's shoot it. 358 00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:21,549 Speed, speed, speed. 359 00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:25,344 In a big movie, you may do three pages a day. 360 00:22:26,136 --> 00:22:29,265 Hal would shoot 16 pages a day. MAN: Yeah. 361 00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:32,643 We did things that were insane, 362 00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:34,353 right on the edge of insanity. 363 00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:38,899 Hal Needham directing Burt, 364 00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:41,443 this was a brand new process for them. 365 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:45,030 I think he just wanted Burt to be Burt. 366 00:22:45,823 --> 00:22:50,452 I had no qualms about going in there and saying, "Action." 367 00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:07,678 Oh, my God. 368 00:23:13,976 --> 00:23:15,561 We'd walk on the set, 369 00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:17,813 and there's the Panavision camera and all the lights, 370 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,982 and there's Burt Reynolds. 371 00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:22,985 Old legends never die. They just lose weight. 372 00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:27,197 Seems like a legend and an out-of-work bum look a lot alike, Daddy. 373 00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:29,992 And you go, "Oh, my God. How did I... How did I wind up here?" 374 00:23:36,665 --> 00:23:41,003 Now, gettin' to Texarkana and back in 28 hours, that's no problem. 375 00:23:42,004 --> 00:23:44,423 It ain't never been done before, hot shit. 376 00:23:44,506 --> 00:23:46,133 Watch your language, little lady. 377 00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:48,802 The problem is that Coors beer. 378 00:23:48,886 --> 00:23:52,848 You take that east of Texas and that's... That's bootleggin'. 379 00:23:54,183 --> 00:23:55,873 There were a lot of things about the south 380 00:23:55,893 --> 00:23:57,478 that I was embarrassed about, 381 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,192 but there were also things about the south that were wonderful. 382 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:08,864 I had hoped to make something out of that 383 00:24:09,406 --> 00:24:11,659 in a way that nobody had seen. 384 00:24:15,496 --> 00:24:18,707 Nobody thinks of Florida as being south, 385 00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:21,043 but if we had enough time on this show, 386 00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:25,339 I could take you places where you'd realize that this is the south. 387 00:24:29,218 --> 00:24:31,929 I wanted to make it so bad when I was growing up here. 388 00:24:32,012 --> 00:24:33,889 I mean, I really wanted to make it bad. 389 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:39,603 But great, great memories. 390 00:24:39,687 --> 00:24:41,563 Really great memories. 391 00:24:42,398 --> 00:24:44,400 My dad is a cowboy. 392 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:50,114 He's tough and leathery and the most honest man I've ever known in my life. 393 00:24:51,907 --> 00:24:55,953 We had our little off and ons, but he was a normal kid. 394 00:24:56,036 --> 00:24:58,664 He got in just as much trouble as anyone else. 395 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:02,251 He put me in jail one night for getting in a fight. 396 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,837 I remember he came in and he says, 397 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,797 "You kids, uh, your father's here." 398 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,048 "You can go home now." 399 00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:09,530 "Your father's here. You can go home now." 400 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:12,678 And he looked to me and says, "Your father ain't here." 401 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:14,805 So I stayed there all night. 402 00:25:16,932 --> 00:25:18,726 There's a saying in the south that, 403 00:25:18,809 --> 00:25:22,563 "No man is a man until his father tells him he is." 404 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:27,026 I think his dad expected a lot out of him. 405 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:30,863 He was, kind of, the golden boy in football, 406 00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:32,386 and it looked like he was gonna have 407 00:25:32,448 --> 00:25:35,451 a great pro-career and college career. 408 00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:41,290 He got tore up in his senior year in high school. 409 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:44,710 Tore the cartilage out of both sides of both knees. 410 00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:46,712 Well, he was sort of lost. 411 00:25:46,795 --> 00:25:49,548 All he'd ever done was play football. 412 00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:55,137 I was getting ready to cast and direct the play Outward Bound, 413 00:25:55,637 --> 00:25:58,098 and Burt sat in the front row 414 00:25:58,182 --> 00:26:00,350 in my English Literature class, 415 00:26:00,434 --> 00:26:04,188 and he looked like the guy that I wanted 416 00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:06,106 for the role of an alcoholic. 417 00:26:06,523 --> 00:26:09,818 And I said, "You're out of your bird." 418 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,301 And I said, "I've never been in a play in my life." 419 00:26:12,321 --> 00:26:15,240 I somehow went to that room 420 00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:19,578 and walked in there, and he looked at me and he said, "Read." 421 00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:21,538 I opened the book and I went, "The..." 422 00:26:21,622 --> 00:26:23,062 And he said, "That's it. You got the part." 423 00:26:23,082 --> 00:26:24,500 I saw something in Burt. 424 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:25,959 I saw the spark. 425 00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:44,436 I hated Riverboat. 426 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,521 I hated doing it. 427 00:26:46,814 --> 00:26:50,109 I had this character I called Dumb-Dumb the Whistleblower. 428 00:26:51,777 --> 00:26:53,028 Boiler deck! 429 00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:54,404 Carney, cut it to half speed. 430 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:55,989 Aye, sir! Half speed! 431 00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:59,201 They would bring in the stuntmen. 432 00:27:01,203 --> 00:27:03,539 They were the men, we were the boys. 433 00:27:06,041 --> 00:27:08,544 The stars always migrated to the stunt guys. 434 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:12,005 They saw some realness. 435 00:27:12,089 --> 00:27:13,715 There was no acting. 436 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,050 They were the jocks, 437 00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:17,177 and that's what I've been. 438 00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:22,850 Burt was very capable. 439 00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:24,101 He could do it all, 440 00:27:24,518 --> 00:27:27,062 but you can't do it all. 441 00:27:27,146 --> 00:27:29,982 You gotta have a... You need a double. 442 00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:33,819 Over at Universal, they just hired me 443 00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:35,737 to come in and double somebody. 444 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:37,421 They'd say, "Yeah, here's your outfit." 445 00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:38,554 I said, "Who am I doubling?" 446 00:27:38,574 --> 00:27:40,889 They said, "Go down to the set and find somebody dressed like you", 447 00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:42,411 "and that's who you're doubling." 448 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,079 I got down there and it was Burt. 449 00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:50,377 Hal came in to do a stunt and he was gonna be doubling me, 450 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:52,838 and I thought, "Hell, I can do that." 451 00:28:05,642 --> 00:28:07,249 He said, "You could be really handy." 452 00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:10,522 "Handy" is a super-compliment for a stuntman. 453 00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:13,775 He always said, "Actors are candy-asses. I don't wanna be an actor." 454 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,325 I've always felt that Burt 455 00:28:22,201 --> 00:28:25,078 kind of wanted to be doing what Hal was doing. 456 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:28,373 He'd come out to my place on Saturday and Sunday, 457 00:28:28,457 --> 00:28:31,293 and there'd be 18, 20 stuntmen out there practicing. 458 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,296 Most people are in less than top physical condition. 459 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:37,424 The first and foremost for every stuntman is a good warm up, 460 00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:38,675 as it should be for you. 461 00:28:40,969 --> 00:28:42,304 Cut! Cut, cut! 462 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,563 They were the pirates, running around having a good time. 463 00:28:55,484 --> 00:28:56,902 When I first saw that group, 464 00:28:56,985 --> 00:29:00,322 reminded me of Butch Cassidy and the Hole-in-the-Wall gang. 465 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,658 And we were kind of all the Hole-in-the-Wall gang. 466 00:29:03,951 --> 00:29:05,751 That's a great line in that movie, Butch says, 467 00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:08,307 "Listen, I've got vision, everyone else is wearing bifocals." 468 00:29:08,497 --> 00:29:11,124 Hal Needham was the Butch Cassidy character. 469 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:15,504 Hal was... He was an innovator, you know? 470 00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:18,590 I've never seen him back off from nothing. 471 00:29:18,674 --> 00:29:20,822 They say, "We want you to get in this car, go down there", 472 00:29:20,842 --> 00:29:22,386 "turn it over at 90 miles an hour," 473 00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:24,012 "blow it up, come out on fire," 474 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:25,472 "run across the street and die." 475 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:26,640 I say, "Okay." 476 00:29:28,558 --> 00:29:31,311 He, more or less, got a group of guys together 477 00:29:31,395 --> 00:29:33,313 that could do anything. 478 00:29:33,397 --> 00:29:37,067 We just started our own organization called Stunts Unlimited. 479 00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:39,903 Right when we started Stunts Unlimited, 480 00:29:39,987 --> 00:29:41,822 we had our office on the lot of Paramount. 481 00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:45,200 Paramount didn't even know we had an office there. 482 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:48,328 For four years, 483 00:29:48,412 --> 00:29:50,831 we were the biggest, best-known organization in the world. 484 00:29:57,879 --> 00:30:01,300 Got up early in the morning, went to the set, 485 00:30:01,383 --> 00:30:04,386 went through wardrobe, makeup, hair, got a burrito, 486 00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:06,388 jumped on your horse, went to work. 487 00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:08,181 It was just the best. 488 00:30:08,265 --> 00:30:10,809 And then at night, when you get back to the hotel, 489 00:30:10,892 --> 00:30:13,437 you stop at a bar, you have a couple of belts, 490 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:16,982 have a couple more, say, "Let's go, man!" 491 00:30:17,316 --> 00:30:21,153 Off to the 17th Bar and Grill, close it down. 492 00:30:21,862 --> 00:30:23,655 We would come in, the wranglers would be 493 00:30:23,739 --> 00:30:25,991 going to work to get the horses ready for us. 494 00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:28,160 We'd grab a shower and go to work. 495 00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:30,370 It was... It was mad. 496 00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:35,751 And Hal really had a rule that you didn't bring your wives on location 497 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:39,546 because of that, it would cause problems, you know. 498 00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:42,758 Well, we went through a lot of wives. 499 00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,265 What do you two do in the movie? 500 00:30:50,349 --> 00:30:52,642 Well, we drink a lot of champagne in the movie. 501 00:30:52,726 --> 00:30:54,853 We're sitting at a table and just 502 00:30:54,936 --> 00:30:58,607 more or less talking with Pat McCormick and Paul Williams. 503 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:01,693 And then Burt Reynolds walks up to the scene. 504 00:31:01,777 --> 00:31:03,133 Does Burt try to put the make on you? 505 00:31:03,153 --> 00:31:05,030 No, we wish, but no. 506 00:31:05,113 --> 00:31:06,698 No, we're more or less hoping 507 00:31:06,782 --> 00:31:08,950 that he'll let us put the make on him. 508 00:31:18,001 --> 00:31:19,628 Watch out! Everybody move back. 509 00:31:19,711 --> 00:31:22,111 What you just saw was a scene from a new Burt Reynolds movie, 510 00:31:22,172 --> 00:31:25,967 Smokey and the Bandit being filmed here at Lakewood Fairgrounds, Atlanta. 511 00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,806 Pontiac division of General Motors gave us four sedans 512 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:32,891 that we used as police cars, 513 00:31:32,974 --> 00:31:35,394 and they gave us two Trans Ams, and that was it. 514 00:31:39,981 --> 00:31:41,525 By the second week of the picture, 515 00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:44,069 both the Trans Ams had been destroyed, 516 00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:46,905 and we had to go back and beg to get a couple more. 517 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:49,491 It's beautiful, huh? Honey, hush. 518 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:52,327 Jerry Reed went, "Honey, hush." 519 00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:01,795 The way that he said it, it was the greatest looking gal you'd ever seen. 520 00:32:08,885 --> 00:32:10,554 You bet I love it. 521 00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:14,683 I mean, I really get a kick out of driving a Firebird. 522 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:23,233 There seems to be a thing about that bloody Trans Am. 523 00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:26,945 As a symbol of your getaway steed, 524 00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:30,282 the male animal, 525 00:32:30,365 --> 00:32:35,412 it is the wannabe warrior who's now working at a factory somewhere 526 00:32:35,495 --> 00:32:37,622 connecting with that character, that car. 527 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:41,793 Maybe it's the element of escape. 528 00:32:41,877 --> 00:32:43,128 I mean, it's an escapist movie, 529 00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:45,380 but it's a movie about escape. 530 00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:49,593 That was a great answer. 531 00:32:50,385 --> 00:32:52,471 What about all the nutty stunts in cars? 532 00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:55,265 You ever have a really far-out car run? 533 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,434 Oh, yeah. 534 00:32:58,894 --> 00:33:01,313 First of all, see, I love cars. 535 00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:03,064 I can make a car talk. 536 00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:07,152 Slant it sideways, spin it completely around 360 degrees, 537 00:33:07,235 --> 00:33:08,528 do all those things with it. 538 00:33:08,612 --> 00:33:10,989 I know exactly where that car is at. 539 00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:12,824 Why do you drive like that, Hal? 540 00:33:12,908 --> 00:33:14,534 Why do I drive like that? 541 00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:16,077 Well, there's a couple reasons. 542 00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:20,415 Number one's money, and the second one is we're making a movie. 543 00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:25,128 Fast cars, that was dangerous stuff. 544 00:33:25,754 --> 00:33:29,633 Whether we're jumping a boat, or jumping a car, or jumping a horse, 545 00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:30,884 it was all the... 546 00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:34,137 It all stemmed from the basics of stunt work 547 00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:36,181 where it all started with the horse and the fight. 548 00:33:42,437 --> 00:33:45,524 I believe, personally, that when you work with animals, 549 00:33:45,607 --> 00:33:48,193 you stand a better chance of getting somebody hurt 550 00:33:48,276 --> 00:33:49,528 than you do with automobiles 551 00:33:49,611 --> 00:33:51,092 'cause the automobile doesn't care about 552 00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:52,447 the explosions or the bullet hits 553 00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:53,698 or the whatever it is, 554 00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:55,116 it will go wherever you steer it, 555 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,702 and it'll only go as fast as you mash the accelerator. 556 00:34:02,415 --> 00:34:05,502 It's like, the westerns just slowly faded out, 557 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:07,462 and here come all the car pictures. 558 00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:16,555 Okay, fearless, let me ask you this. 559 00:34:16,638 --> 00:34:19,891 Has there ever been a stunt that somebody wanted to do in a movie 560 00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:22,394 that you said flat-out, "No"? 561 00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:26,231 I've never turned down a stunt. 562 00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:29,150 I said, if you can put a man on the moon, 563 00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:31,486 you can damn sure figure out a way to do a stunt. 564 00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:35,824 Couple of times, Hal did get in over his head. 565 00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:38,743 There was a stunt where I should've said something, 566 00:34:38,827 --> 00:34:40,412 but I thought, "Wait a minute." 567 00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:43,707 "He's Hal Needham. Keep your mouth shut." 568 00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:47,419 When you're doubling a leading man, 569 00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:50,005 you wanna make him look like a hero. 570 00:34:52,215 --> 00:34:53,822 White Lightning, there's a scene where 571 00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:56,428 Burt Reynolds' character being doubled by Hal Needham 572 00:34:56,511 --> 00:34:58,346 is trying to escape police officers 573 00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:00,307 when he sees a big old sand barge 574 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:02,767 pulling out into the middle of the river. 575 00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:05,228 So he turns the car sideways and then 576 00:35:05,312 --> 00:35:08,106 goes down the dock and jumps the car. 577 00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,943 Think it was probably 70, 80 feet across to the barge. 578 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:20,201 Even though he was banged up pretty good, he got out of the car 579 00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:21,870 and continued to play the part. 580 00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:24,873 And after we cut, he fell down. 581 00:35:25,624 --> 00:35:26,904 But he always finished the shot. 582 00:35:30,378 --> 00:35:31,630 Well, I'll be damned. 583 00:35:31,713 --> 00:35:33,048 Busted his spleen. 584 00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:35,133 Damn near died. 585 00:35:36,843 --> 00:35:39,012 You know, stuntmen, 586 00:35:39,095 --> 00:35:43,266 you can get hurt right there, and they just haul you off and keep shooting, 587 00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:45,602 but the actor goes down, you're done. 588 00:35:47,228 --> 00:35:50,398 We were shooting The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing, 589 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:53,401 he had a hernia down in the bottom of this canyon and it was 590 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:54,986 200 feet up. 591 00:35:55,236 --> 00:35:57,614 I couldn't even get a chopper in there. 592 00:35:57,697 --> 00:36:01,159 So I turned to Burt and I said, "Tell you what, son," I said, 593 00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:03,411 "If you can hold onto my back," 594 00:36:03,495 --> 00:36:05,622 "leave some of that rope down here," 595 00:36:05,705 --> 00:36:07,082 "I can carry you out of here." 596 00:36:08,458 --> 00:36:11,461 So I carried him up the hillside on my back. 597 00:36:11,544 --> 00:36:12,962 We got to the top. 598 00:36:13,463 --> 00:36:15,090 They had a chopper which I threw him in 599 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:16,424 and they forgot to get me, 600 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:18,593 and I was rolling on the ground, all out of breath. 601 00:36:23,932 --> 00:36:27,519 That's just a shot of Burt and I down at his ranch in Florida. 602 00:36:27,602 --> 00:36:31,523 It says, "To the best roomie a guy could ask for", 603 00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:34,234 "and a hell of a man. Love, Burt." 604 00:36:36,611 --> 00:36:40,573 We had this crazy schedule, that I used to wake up 605 00:36:40,657 --> 00:36:43,201 in the morning and would be stumbling down the hall, 606 00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:47,122 and there'd be a note on the bathroom door that said, 607 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:51,334 "The place is yours, but I need it for the next three days." 608 00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:54,129 "Hope you don't mind. Love, roomie." 609 00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:57,006 And that meant I got out. And I did. 610 00:36:58,091 --> 00:36:59,864 I don't know that I fell in love instantly, 611 00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:01,469 but I sure did like the guy. 612 00:37:01,678 --> 00:37:06,599 My first date with Hal was at his house with Burt and Dinah Shore. 613 00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:09,894 It was an interesting time. 614 00:37:11,813 --> 00:37:14,023 Burt and Dinah were lovers. 615 00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:17,068 She was a cougar at the time, I guess. 616 00:37:17,527 --> 00:37:22,824 I'd like to make it eminently clear that there are many areas in which 617 00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:25,243 Hal does not double. 618 00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:28,079 Okay? 619 00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:34,159 I want to know something. 620 00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:38,047 He and I started almost simultaneous. What happened? 621 00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:40,733 I mean, I'm better looking than he is, I'm... 622 00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:42,385 What? What? 623 00:37:43,178 --> 00:37:44,304 I'll explain it to you. 624 00:37:44,387 --> 00:37:45,493 Okay. I wish somebody would. 625 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:46,765 Yeah. It's very simple. 626 00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:48,266 You don't have any problems... Okay. 627 00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:50,059 Because you're a real choreographer. 628 00:37:50,143 --> 00:37:52,353 I mean, those fights are staged... 629 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:54,522 I'll tell you what. I don't care who it is, 630 00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:57,650 I always say the biggest thing about a man is his ego, 631 00:37:58,067 --> 00:38:00,195 and I'm no different than anybody else. 632 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,613 All right. Ready? 633 00:38:01,696 --> 00:38:03,573 Hal wanted to be a star. 634 00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:07,869 I think, secretly, he would've liked to be Burt Reynolds. 635 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,872 On the other hand, I think Burt wanted to be Hal Needham, 636 00:38:10,955 --> 00:38:14,959 but knew that his bread was gonna be buttered on the movie star's side. 637 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,062 For a little PR we put an ad in the paper 638 00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:37,857 that Burt Reynolds is gonna be the judge of a dog show 639 00:38:37,941 --> 00:38:40,902 to pick a dog to be in the movie and everything. 640 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:42,300 Go ahead and bring him on by. 641 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,074 The next day, there was not a dog in the dog pound. 642 00:38:46,407 --> 00:38:49,994 It was in a park and it was just a sea of dogs out there. 643 00:38:50,078 --> 00:38:53,748 Burt said, "That's your dog," and that's how he got in the movie. 644 00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:58,169 Now, Bo, I'm tellin' ya, Fred here ain't gonna be no problem. 645 00:38:59,379 --> 00:39:02,340 Well, I can see he's gonna be a major asset. 646 00:39:07,262 --> 00:39:09,430 Jerry Reed hit it off with everybody, 647 00:39:09,722 --> 00:39:13,268 and on the set, he had his band there. 648 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,979 Hal and I were invited up to his suite 649 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:19,858 and they played this little song called Eastbound and Down, 650 00:39:19,941 --> 00:39:23,319 and asking Hal, "Do you like it? What do you think of it?" 651 00:39:23,444 --> 00:39:25,321 "It was fabulous!" 652 00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:27,073 And it's the song of the movie. 653 00:39:39,919 --> 00:39:41,734 Break for that Bandit One. Break for that Bandit One. 654 00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:43,214 Yeah, Snowman. Come on back. 655 00:39:50,138 --> 00:39:52,682 This is Sheriff Buford T. Justice again. 656 00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:56,060 I lost that Trans Am. Set up a roadblock. 657 00:39:56,144 --> 00:39:57,145 Good idea. 658 00:39:59,898 --> 00:40:02,567 Bandit, this here's the Grave Robber. 659 00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,402 Put the pedal to the metal, good buddy, 660 00:40:04,485 --> 00:40:07,155 and we'll hold this county mountie as long as we can. Come on. 661 00:40:08,281 --> 00:40:12,660 Bandit, honey, this is the Good Witch of the North speakin'. 662 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:15,204 You'd better not come this way. 663 00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:23,755 This is the Bandit, darling. 664 00:40:24,005 --> 00:40:26,007 And how can I help? Bring it back. 665 00:40:33,723 --> 00:40:38,478 I knew the music before I knew the man, and the music got to me. 666 00:40:39,145 --> 00:40:40,563 I got that all worked out. 667 00:40:40,647 --> 00:40:43,358 This Bandit character loved Jerry Reed. 668 00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:49,614 We have a relationship that's very similar in some ways between me and Hal. 669 00:40:50,156 --> 00:40:53,076 He was crazy, but crazy good. 670 00:41:07,423 --> 00:41:09,342 What is a good old boy? 671 00:41:09,425 --> 00:41:12,971 Someone that you really like hanging out with and you can trust. 672 00:41:13,346 --> 00:41:16,057 Doesn't take life too seriously, but always gets the job done. 673 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:19,602 There's not a lot of angst in the good old boy. Put it that way. 674 00:41:21,062 --> 00:41:23,982 I suppose a lot of people say that people become actors 675 00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:25,650 because they're unhappy with themselves 676 00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:28,820 and they get to hide in somebody else's skin, 677 00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:30,446 but that's not true. 678 00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:33,157 People become actors, I think, 679 00:41:33,241 --> 00:41:35,535 because we're people pleasers. 680 00:41:35,785 --> 00:41:40,373 And the only thrill for us, really, 681 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:43,876 is your getting some enjoyment from what we do. 682 00:41:44,419 --> 00:41:45,420 Oh, my God. 683 00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:51,259 I like to be considered somebody 684 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,761 who paid their dues and is a good actor. 685 00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:55,680 I think that there's a school of acting which, 686 00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:58,850 I'm a great believer in this particular school of acting, 687 00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:01,310 which is called effortless. 688 00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:05,773 And I worked 20 years to learn how to make it look easy. 689 00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:09,944 Quite honestly, it's very easy to do, what I call, 690 00:42:10,028 --> 00:42:11,612 the constipated school of acting 691 00:42:12,822 --> 00:42:16,034 which is where you let every vein show in the neck 692 00:42:16,117 --> 00:42:18,244 and you just go for it with every take, 693 00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:20,268 and everybody says, "What a brilliant actor he is." 694 00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:23,374 Well, he gets an Oscar in Preparation H and I get a smile. 695 00:42:27,003 --> 00:42:28,087 That's an actor? 696 00:42:30,465 --> 00:42:33,468 But he was brilliant in A Streetcar Named Desire. 697 00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:34,802 A Streetcar Named Desire. 698 00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:37,597 What was he? A conductor? 699 00:42:38,389 --> 00:42:42,226 That was the time when everybody wanted to be Marlon Brando. 700 00:42:42,310 --> 00:42:43,978 And who were you? 701 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,855 I didn't know who the hell I was. 702 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:47,857 Question, Rocky? 703 00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:51,778 Yeah, I mean, what is my, uh, tertiary motivation here? 704 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,199 I mean, like, I walk through the door and, uh, I see her. 705 00:42:57,158 --> 00:42:58,159 Why? 706 00:42:58,993 --> 00:43:00,036 Why what, Rocky? 707 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:01,120 What's the question? 708 00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:02,663 Exactly. 709 00:43:02,747 --> 00:43:03,873 What is the question? 710 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,000 I wanted to play the rebel. 711 00:43:07,168 --> 00:43:10,171 The kind of label they'd given me at the studio. 712 00:43:10,254 --> 00:43:13,424 I said, "Jesus Christ. He looks like Brando." 713 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,114 When I first went to Hollywood, 714 00:43:15,134 --> 00:43:16,928 everybody wanted me to meet Marlon, 715 00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:19,097 and I'd heard so many Marlon Brando stories. 716 00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:22,058 There's a coffee house on the strip called Cyrano's 717 00:43:22,141 --> 00:43:25,228 and at the time, it was the in place. 718 00:43:25,311 --> 00:43:29,232 All... Everybody went, to see or be seen. 719 00:43:29,774 --> 00:43:31,275 We walked in, 720 00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:34,237 immediately, there was a director named Hubert Cornfield, 721 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,241 who ran over to me and grabbed me and said, "He's here!" 722 00:43:38,741 --> 00:43:40,118 And I, uh... 723 00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:42,161 I said, "He is?" 724 00:43:42,245 --> 00:43:43,746 And he said, "Come on!" 725 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,748 He was pulling me by the shirt. 726 00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:49,252 We came around and we stopped in front of a table. 727 00:43:49,335 --> 00:43:52,088 And I suddenly realized it was Marlon. 728 00:43:53,297 --> 00:43:54,298 And Marlon... 729 00:43:54,382 --> 00:43:57,301 Everybody was looking at me except Marlon. 730 00:43:57,385 --> 00:44:00,555 Marlon was looking right about there. 731 00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:04,517 And Hubert Cornfield said, 732 00:44:05,393 --> 00:44:08,479 "Marlon, isn't this fantastic?" 733 00:44:09,522 --> 00:44:13,818 And like a dummy, I was going like this 734 00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,612 'cause I thought I'd been brought over to be introduced. 735 00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:20,074 But he never looked up. 736 00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:22,160 He just went, "Mmm." 737 00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:29,917 And I still had my hand out. 738 00:44:30,585 --> 00:44:33,337 And it was deathly silence in the place. 739 00:44:34,297 --> 00:44:35,840 And I suddenly... 740 00:44:35,923 --> 00:44:37,842 I had the urge to kill. 741 00:44:37,925 --> 00:44:39,719 I mean, to reach across and kill. 742 00:44:42,096 --> 00:44:44,807 I want to be mean. Who the hell does he think he is? 743 00:44:44,891 --> 00:44:49,145 Burt had that thing that you have to have to become a leading man 744 00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:50,479 and he could go after you. 745 00:44:51,272 --> 00:44:53,941 If he lost it, and I've seen him lose it with some people. 746 00:44:54,025 --> 00:44:56,986 So he'd... You couldn't fuck around with Burt too much. 747 00:44:57,778 --> 00:44:59,530 I wanna go on killin' white men. 748 00:45:02,909 --> 00:45:04,744 He says you will have to prove yourself. 749 00:45:06,204 --> 00:45:07,872 I'll prove myself. 750 00:45:08,289 --> 00:45:09,498 Just give me a chance. 751 00:45:09,582 --> 00:45:13,419 Burt wanted to be a star, and I think he'd have done most anything. 752 00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:20,509 Sometimes, you learn more from a bad film than you do from a good film. 753 00:45:20,593 --> 00:45:23,387 In that case, I should be a very good actor. 754 00:45:42,907 --> 00:45:45,576 I got a lot of parts because they didn't have to hire 755 00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:46,827 a stuntman, you know. 756 00:45:46,911 --> 00:45:49,791 They'd say, "Get that guy. He falls down the stairs and he talks okay." 757 00:45:49,872 --> 00:45:52,208 So I fell down the stairs and talked. 758 00:45:53,334 --> 00:45:56,295 As the years went by, I fell less and talked more. 759 00:45:57,588 --> 00:46:01,259 Thought you were an authority on architecture. 760 00:46:02,343 --> 00:46:04,887 I didn't know your hobby was boating. 761 00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:20,695 I think I've probably chosen worse than any actor 762 00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:21,862 in the history of films. 763 00:46:24,031 --> 00:46:25,926 Some films, I said, "What's the location?" 764 00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:27,410 They said, "Tahiti." 765 00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:29,287 And I said, "I'll take that picture." 766 00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:40,840 I did Deliverance which was my deliverance out of bad films, I thought. 767 00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:48,306 Sometimes, you have to lose yourself before you can find anything. 768 00:46:50,349 --> 00:46:51,851 Any snakes around here? 769 00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:58,754 I think Georgia is kind of a good luck charm for you. 770 00:46:58,774 --> 00:47:01,694 Do you look on it as a real good place to make films? 771 00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:06,532 I'd like to shoot four out of five pictures here, which really wouldn't 772 00:47:06,615 --> 00:47:10,161 sit too well with a lot of people who want to do desert movies. 773 00:47:10,286 --> 00:47:12,646 Deliverance was kind of like coming home, you know. Mmm-hmm. 774 00:47:13,205 --> 00:47:15,249 Changed everything for me. 775 00:47:15,541 --> 00:47:19,128 I had never done a part that good, 776 00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:20,796 but I understand this guy. 777 00:47:25,134 --> 00:47:26,427 I could play him. 778 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:28,929 We gotta get rid of that guy. 779 00:47:30,973 --> 00:47:32,975 Just how are you gonna do that, Lewis? 780 00:47:33,351 --> 00:47:34,769 Where? 781 00:47:35,811 --> 00:47:37,104 Anywhere. 782 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:44,111 Everywhere. 783 00:47:44,612 --> 00:47:49,200 I asked the director, John Boorman, what parts he'd seen me play 784 00:47:49,283 --> 00:47:51,118 that would make me right for this picture. 785 00:47:51,452 --> 00:47:54,121 And he said, I didn't see you in a part, 786 00:47:54,872 --> 00:47:57,625 but I saw you on The Tonight Show. 787 00:48:00,628 --> 00:48:01,670 Hello. 788 00:48:01,754 --> 00:48:03,944 Nice, you look so sharp, again tonight. You're dressing so well... 789 00:48:03,964 --> 00:48:05,071 Thank you. I was just pressed. 790 00:48:05,091 --> 00:48:06,447 They just pressed me. The whole thing? 791 00:48:06,467 --> 00:48:08,324 Did you get into your clothes? They pressed my entire body. 792 00:48:08,344 --> 00:48:10,805 Burt Reynolds was the catch on a talk show. 793 00:48:11,305 --> 00:48:13,766 Everybody liked to be around Burt. 794 00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:15,810 It's nice to see you haven't changed a bit. 795 00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:16,894 No, I haven't. 796 00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:21,565 Listen, Deliverance is a really... 797 00:48:21,649 --> 00:48:23,192 It's from a novel. It's quite serious. 798 00:48:23,275 --> 00:48:26,612 It's got rape and murder in it and all those things. 799 00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:30,866 Mmm-hmm. And here you are, cavorting like a jackass. 800 00:48:34,537 --> 00:48:36,789 Not being a jackass, just cavorting like one. 801 00:48:36,872 --> 00:48:38,040 Hmm. 802 00:48:38,124 --> 00:48:39,500 I gambled, I really gambled. 803 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,670 I mean, Deliverance was BC. Before Cosmo. 804 00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:54,682 The gamble was would I ever be considered a serious actor after that. 805 00:48:56,016 --> 00:48:58,769 When I died, on my tombstone would they say, 806 00:48:58,853 --> 00:49:00,771 "His contribution to the world was," 807 00:49:00,855 --> 00:49:03,691 "he was the first male nude centerfold." 808 00:49:19,540 --> 00:49:21,625 What it's like to be pastor of a man 809 00:49:21,709 --> 00:49:23,544 who posed nude in Cosmopolitan? 810 00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:26,422 This is what we Baptists call a problem. 811 00:49:27,131 --> 00:49:30,509 I don't know, I didn't tell him to take his clothes off. 812 00:49:30,593 --> 00:49:32,219 And I wish he hadn't done it. 813 00:49:32,887 --> 00:49:35,139 But at the same time, he did it. 814 00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:37,057 He's free and I'm free. 815 00:49:37,308 --> 00:49:39,435 I feel free to wear my clothes, 816 00:49:39,518 --> 00:49:41,395 and he feels free to take his off. 817 00:49:44,899 --> 00:49:47,985 Posing catapulted Burt Reynolds to household name. 818 00:49:48,569 --> 00:49:50,946 He became, then, the guy. 819 00:49:55,826 --> 00:49:57,411 That's literally true. 820 00:50:04,793 --> 00:50:08,130 How many people like him, with the mustache? 821 00:50:11,634 --> 00:50:14,428 And then, without the mustache? 822 00:50:17,389 --> 00:50:19,934 This is a hell of a time to tell me. 823 00:50:20,768 --> 00:50:23,270 I think you should stick with the mustache, Burt. 824 00:50:23,479 --> 00:50:25,981 Definitely stick with the mustache. 825 00:50:26,315 --> 00:50:30,152 The Cosmopolitan came out 30 days before Deliverance. 826 00:50:31,445 --> 00:50:37,034 It was very difficult for 98% of the film critics 827 00:50:37,117 --> 00:50:38,869 to disassociate 828 00:50:38,953 --> 00:50:43,165 this character who, you know, laid down on a bear rug, like an idiot, 829 00:50:43,249 --> 00:50:45,793 you know, and did this strange thing 830 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:48,754 with an actor who took his craft seriously 831 00:50:48,837 --> 00:50:50,381 and took the film business seriously. 832 00:50:50,965 --> 00:50:53,592 And a lot of people who, 833 00:50:53,676 --> 00:50:55,010 I trust their instincts, 834 00:50:55,094 --> 00:50:57,513 felt that it might have cost me a nomination that year. 835 00:51:00,474 --> 00:51:03,435 It was a bad choice 'cause it trivialized him. 836 00:51:04,019 --> 00:51:05,729 And I know he was sorry about it, 837 00:51:05,813 --> 00:51:07,773 and I was unhappy to see it myself. 838 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,483 He didn't need it. 839 00:51:09,984 --> 00:51:12,278 Most serious actors don't do that. 840 00:51:13,028 --> 00:51:14,655 A clown would do it. 841 00:51:14,822 --> 00:51:18,033 In fact, a lot of people never forgave me for that. 842 00:51:18,951 --> 00:51:20,411 I'm one of them actually. 843 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,634 What now do you look for? What does a role have to have 844 00:51:35,718 --> 00:51:38,053 for you to really consider it? 845 00:51:39,013 --> 00:51:41,098 Well, I'm looking now for humor. 846 00:51:41,181 --> 00:51:43,809 Because I happen to think that, 847 00:51:43,892 --> 00:51:47,605 of my contemporaries, I have to look around and say, 848 00:51:47,688 --> 00:51:49,189 "What's the competition?" 849 00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:51,942 I can't stand in the doorway better than Paul Newman. 850 00:51:52,026 --> 00:51:54,820 And I can't have blonder hair than Robert Redford. 851 00:51:55,362 --> 00:51:56,614 But I can do comedy better than 852 00:51:56,697 --> 00:51:58,217 either one of them, I can eat them up. 853 00:51:59,617 --> 00:52:02,036 Hold it! The beer! Watch the beer! 854 00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:09,001 You all right? Very funny! Very funny! 855 00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:10,127 I thought it was funny. 856 00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:14,089 To move people to laugh, it's extremely difficult, 857 00:52:14,590 --> 00:52:16,800 crossing a lot of different cultures. 858 00:52:17,217 --> 00:52:20,137 And there's no question, you ask anyone, 859 00:52:20,346 --> 00:52:23,140 anyone who is in the creative end of this business 860 00:52:23,682 --> 00:52:26,518 and they will always tell you, you take a guy like Jackie Gleason. 861 00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:42,409 There wasn't any script for me, believe me. 862 00:52:42,826 --> 00:52:45,245 I never had a line of dialogue written. 863 00:52:45,329 --> 00:52:48,207 The director would stick his head in the window of the car and say, 864 00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:50,584 "Now we have to go up the thing and" 865 00:52:50,668 --> 00:52:52,670 "you'll see him there, what do you want to say?" 866 00:52:52,753 --> 00:52:54,421 And I'd think for a second and I said, 867 00:52:54,505 --> 00:52:56,225 "How about something." He says, "Great." 868 00:52:56,256 --> 00:52:57,675 "Okay, let's go." 869 00:52:57,758 --> 00:52:58,842 Good shit! 870 00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:03,889 I got the evidence! Put the evidence in the car. 871 00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:05,307 But, Daddy... 872 00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:07,935 Put the evidence in the car! 873 00:53:08,268 --> 00:53:12,523 I'm gonna barbecue your ass in molasses! 874 00:53:14,608 --> 00:53:17,027 I am not going to attempt 875 00:53:17,111 --> 00:53:19,488 to give any messages to the people out there. 876 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,951 I can do two things, and I think I do 'em extremely well. 877 00:53:24,493 --> 00:53:28,872 Action, I know I do well, and my comedy isn't too bad, all right? 878 00:53:28,956 --> 00:53:29,978 No, it's three things. 879 00:53:29,998 --> 00:53:30,999 What's that? 880 00:53:31,083 --> 00:53:33,377 You just sit there and look good, that's a third. 881 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:36,318 You sweet thing, from now on you can say anything you want to. 882 00:53:36,338 --> 00:53:38,882 Let's play tag. Tag! You're it! 883 00:53:41,009 --> 00:53:42,010 Tag? 884 00:53:42,428 --> 00:53:43,992 I was 11 years old when I saw my first movie. 885 00:53:44,012 --> 00:53:45,013 What was it? 886 00:53:45,097 --> 00:53:47,224 It was called Pop Goes the Weasel, 887 00:53:47,307 --> 00:53:49,143 and I mean this is way back, okay. 888 00:53:49,810 --> 00:53:51,687 To me, I was amazed. 889 00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:59,695 Now, I relate today to what I thought then, all right. And I said, 890 00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:01,135 "Hell! That's what I wanted to see," 891 00:54:01,155 --> 00:54:03,315 "and I believe that's what people want to see today." 892 00:54:11,248 --> 00:54:12,249 Oof. 893 00:54:12,833 --> 00:54:14,543 I will never win an Academy Award. 894 00:54:16,336 --> 00:54:18,130 But I'm gonna be very rich, so... 895 00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:19,853 And I think I put out entertaining films, 896 00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:21,483 and I think that's what it's all about. 897 00:54:22,551 --> 00:54:23,802 What happened, Daddy? 898 00:54:23,886 --> 00:54:28,098 Both Hal and I realized that this was gold, 899 00:54:28,182 --> 00:54:30,058 and neither of us wanted to touch it. 900 00:54:30,142 --> 00:54:32,436 I had never had a scene with Burt Reynolds, 901 00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:33,937 I had to sit down and write one. 902 00:54:34,021 --> 00:54:35,606 That was the scene in the lunch room. 903 00:54:36,273 --> 00:54:39,943 Just keep your eye out for that Mr. Bandit bastard! 904 00:54:42,863 --> 00:54:45,783 Let me have a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper. 905 00:54:45,866 --> 00:54:48,202 Make it fast. I'm in a goddamn hurry. 906 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:49,953 In the original screenplay, 907 00:54:50,037 --> 00:54:52,289 there were maybe six or seven scenes 908 00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:54,583 where the two of them were together. 909 00:54:55,709 --> 00:54:57,795 We shot that scene in the restaurant 910 00:54:57,878 --> 00:54:59,546 where Burt knows who Jackie is, 911 00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:01,215 Jackie doesn't know who Burt is. 912 00:55:02,090 --> 00:55:03,697 You must be in a hell of a hurry, huh, Sheriff? 913 00:55:03,717 --> 00:55:05,719 You bet your ass on that, boy. 914 00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:08,430 Oh, you got a little mess there. Let me... 915 00:55:08,514 --> 00:55:10,974 Let me help you out here, get that off of there. That's... 916 00:55:11,058 --> 00:55:12,768 Yeah, yeah. Much obliged. 917 00:55:12,851 --> 00:55:16,480 When we finished that scene, Burt came to Hal and me, 918 00:55:16,563 --> 00:55:19,316 he said, "I'm not gonna work with Jackie anymore." 919 00:55:20,567 --> 00:55:21,693 Somebody chasin' you? 920 00:55:21,777 --> 00:55:23,320 Nobody chasin' me, boy. 921 00:55:23,946 --> 00:55:26,406 I been chasin' a goddamn maniac. 922 00:55:29,535 --> 00:55:32,079 And of course, I had no idea what this was about, 923 00:55:32,162 --> 00:55:34,122 but we started re-writing. 924 00:55:37,918 --> 00:55:41,505 Did Burt feel that Jackie was upstaging him, stealing from him? 925 00:55:42,047 --> 00:55:43,247 You know, I really don't know. 926 00:55:43,924 --> 00:55:47,594 Do you feel that you are in competition to Burt Reynolds? 927 00:55:48,011 --> 00:55:51,431 Oh, no, no, no, he plays comedy, I'm in the lead in this. 928 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:52,788 Oh, let me pay for it. Let me pay. 929 00:55:52,808 --> 00:55:54,331 Oh, no. No, no. You're an officer of the law. 930 00:55:54,351 --> 00:55:56,895 I'd... I'd be honored. Much obliged. 931 00:55:56,979 --> 00:55:58,689 Where's the can? I gotta take a squirt. 932 00:55:58,772 --> 00:56:01,149 Oh, right back there. Just used it myself. 933 00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:05,362 I think that Burt could be a very great comedian. 934 00:56:05,863 --> 00:56:08,866 He can look at you and say something 935 00:56:08,949 --> 00:56:12,327 and then he gives you the attitude that he's saying, "Who me?" 936 00:56:12,828 --> 00:56:16,498 And that's a great quality for someone who wants to do comedy, 937 00:56:16,582 --> 00:56:19,293 I believe he could be a great comedian. 938 00:56:36,351 --> 00:56:40,188 Every time you make a film, it's a battle. Hal, he always had a plan. 939 00:56:40,647 --> 00:56:42,441 He was always willing to take that chance 940 00:56:42,524 --> 00:56:44,610 to do something special and different. 941 00:57:01,877 --> 00:57:03,545 Alan was doubling Burt. 942 00:57:04,546 --> 00:57:06,506 Looks like Burt when he's riding in the car. 943 00:57:07,507 --> 00:57:09,343 And Janet Brady looked exactly like Sally 944 00:57:09,426 --> 00:57:11,261 and just continued to double her. 945 00:57:11,428 --> 00:57:13,931 She could do the fight, she could do the falls, 946 00:57:14,014 --> 00:57:17,267 but her specialty was cars, no question about it. 947 00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,605 She and Alan Gibbs met, 948 00:57:21,688 --> 00:57:24,149 they decide to get married. 949 00:57:25,192 --> 00:57:28,612 And they get married during the filming of Smokey and the Bandit, 950 00:57:28,695 --> 00:57:31,031 and Hal gives Janet away, 951 00:57:31,448 --> 00:57:33,492 as the father of the bride. 952 00:57:34,785 --> 00:57:36,808 Is it true that there was nearly an accident 953 00:57:36,828 --> 00:57:39,831 shooting the scene where the car crashes on to the football field? 954 00:57:39,915 --> 00:57:42,042 Oh, boy, there sure was. 955 00:57:52,636 --> 00:57:55,639 We got shots that didn't go in the film 956 00:57:55,722 --> 00:57:57,849 'cause they were so scary. 957 00:58:02,479 --> 00:58:04,398 When the car jumped and I saw everybody 958 00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:06,316 start running out of the dug-out. 959 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,276 I saw one guy just stand straight up 960 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,445 and the car just hit the dug-out. 961 00:58:12,155 --> 00:58:13,949 A couple of kids got hit. 962 00:58:15,283 --> 00:58:17,452 Fortunately no one got hurt badly, 963 00:58:17,536 --> 00:58:20,497 but you know, there were one or two kids in the hospital. 964 00:58:23,166 --> 00:58:26,086 When the car hit, two things happened, number one was... 965 00:58:26,169 --> 00:58:28,046 I was not aware that we had watered 966 00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:30,007 this last night or they had watered it 967 00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:34,511 and even though we put on Pirelli tires to try to compensate for it, 968 00:58:34,594 --> 00:58:37,222 we just couldn't get stopped, that's all there is to it, 969 00:58:37,305 --> 00:58:39,725 and I just thank God that one of my 970 00:58:39,808 --> 00:58:42,185 stunt men had enough sense in there to... 971 00:58:42,811 --> 00:58:45,022 And the stunt girl, both to turn that car 972 00:58:45,105 --> 00:58:47,274 and get it outside of these people. 973 00:58:51,111 --> 00:58:55,449 I said, we're gonna hurt somebody bad, I want this stopped now. 974 00:58:56,450 --> 00:59:00,537 You know, you can do anything in the world in a movie, but you can't stop. 975 00:59:00,620 --> 00:59:03,540 The absolute decision is mine because... 976 00:59:03,623 --> 00:59:05,751 I mean, I am the boss in that case because 977 00:59:05,834 --> 00:59:08,045 it's my tokus that's on the line 978 00:59:08,128 --> 00:59:10,672 and nobody can tell me how I want to risk it. 979 00:59:17,971 --> 00:59:20,265 Did you do the actual driving in Smokey and the Bandit? 980 00:59:20,474 --> 00:59:23,477 I did all the driving, except the jump over the bridge. 981 00:59:24,352 --> 00:59:26,897 I was under a tree then, hiding my face. 982 00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:31,401 When people go to a movie, 983 00:59:31,485 --> 00:59:33,779 they get engrossed with the character, 984 00:59:33,862 --> 00:59:35,322 the lead character and everything. 985 00:59:37,282 --> 00:59:40,577 They don't think about us stunt men, and I don't think they should, 986 00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:42,996 but when an actor is confronted 987 00:59:43,830 --> 00:59:46,166 on national television or something, 988 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:48,168 seems to me like he should have enough 989 00:59:48,251 --> 00:59:50,087 huevos to say "No, I didn't do that." 990 00:59:51,213 --> 00:59:54,925 Most actors can't do their own stuff. 991 00:59:55,008 --> 00:59:56,551 An actor went on Johnny Carson, 992 00:59:56,635 --> 00:59:58,154 "Oh, yeah, I did all my own stunts." 993 00:59:58,178 --> 01:00:01,389 And we didn't care, we didn't want any recognition. 994 01:00:02,015 --> 01:00:04,935 It was all about working and making money 995 01:00:05,018 --> 01:00:07,395 and going to the next show and the next deal. 996 01:00:07,687 --> 01:00:10,273 The stunt community was kind of a cloak and dagger thing, 997 01:00:10,357 --> 01:00:13,068 I mean, there was no publicity, there was nothing 998 01:00:13,151 --> 01:00:16,446 because the public didn't know what a stunt guy was. 999 01:00:18,031 --> 01:00:21,368 Ironically, it was Hal who let the cat out of the bag. 1000 01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:26,873 Hi there, David, how are you? 1001 01:00:26,957 --> 01:00:28,208 Nice of you to drop in. 1002 01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:29,292 Thank you very much. 1003 01:00:29,376 --> 01:00:30,710 You okay? Oh, I'm fine. 1004 01:00:30,877 --> 01:00:33,213 Nobody had a bigger shadow than Burt Reynolds, 1005 01:00:33,296 --> 01:00:37,300 and my father was really more than ready to step out from behind it. 1006 01:00:38,635 --> 01:00:40,554 When Hal first met me, he said, 1007 01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:42,722 "This is the guy who's gonna make me a star?" 1008 01:00:43,223 --> 01:00:44,808 Let's get this thing rolling. 1009 01:00:45,433 --> 01:00:48,520 My assignment was to make Hal a household name. 1010 01:00:48,603 --> 01:00:50,397 And wow! How do you do that? 1011 01:00:51,606 --> 01:00:53,567 Next you'll see Hal Needham. 1012 01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:55,986 Hal is wearing an awning-striped caftan. 1013 01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:57,487 I'm not crazy about that. 1014 01:00:57,571 --> 01:00:59,386 Oh, I think it looks great on him though, 1015 01:00:59,406 --> 01:01:01,491 it's got a hood, you can cover all up in it. 1016 01:01:01,575 --> 01:01:05,078 I think he realized that acting wasn't his forte, 1017 01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:07,831 but certainly stunts were. 1018 01:01:08,206 --> 01:01:10,709 It's good weather for flying, 1019 01:01:11,126 --> 01:01:13,879 but Hal Needham doesn't have a plane. 1020 01:01:13,962 --> 01:01:15,964 What he does have is a truck. 1021 01:01:16,756 --> 01:01:18,550 The distance between the ramps 1022 01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:22,012 comparable to a 12-story building laid on its side. 1023 01:01:22,429 --> 01:01:23,889 How are you gonna do that, Hal? 1024 01:01:23,972 --> 01:01:27,684 Well, I'm gonna stick a rocket in the back end and jump the river. 1025 01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:31,688 I spent all day everyday looking for ways 1026 01:01:31,771 --> 01:01:34,941 to get Hal in front of anybody you could, anytime. 1027 01:01:49,748 --> 01:01:52,375 To me, I remember it 'cause I broke my back... 1028 01:01:52,459 --> 01:01:54,252 For the second time. 1029 01:01:57,214 --> 01:02:00,967 I can remember him breaking his back and ribs 1030 01:02:01,176 --> 01:02:03,200 and getting out of the hospital and getting on an airplane 1031 01:02:03,220 --> 01:02:05,764 and going down to do another movie. 1032 01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:13,063 He was the first human to test the airbag. 1033 01:02:13,146 --> 01:02:14,564 You know when nobody knew anything 1034 01:02:14,648 --> 01:02:16,066 about the airbag, there was Hal. 1035 01:02:17,275 --> 01:02:19,299 When I first started to go out to pitch Hal, 1036 01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:21,154 it was not an easy task. 1037 01:02:24,366 --> 01:02:27,244 I realized where I had to go was to tell people, 1038 01:02:27,327 --> 01:02:30,163 "Well, Hal Needham is Burt Reynolds' stuntman." 1039 01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:32,165 Now we have their attention. 1040 01:02:32,290 --> 01:02:33,980 He used to like to do his own stunts anyway. 1041 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,585 Well, he started as a stuntman. 1042 01:02:35,669 --> 01:02:37,269 You know, originally, he was a stuntman. 1043 01:02:37,337 --> 01:02:40,006 Unfortunately, when we started some of the interviews, 1044 01:02:40,382 --> 01:02:42,008 they all still went back to Burt. 1045 01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:44,928 There's a lot of little things that he took... 1046 01:02:45,428 --> 01:02:47,847 You know, I know he took from me. 1047 01:02:48,348 --> 01:02:51,351 And for instance, he took my wardrobe, okay. 1048 01:02:51,726 --> 01:02:56,564 He had them copy my wardrobe that I wear normally all the time. 1049 01:02:56,982 --> 01:02:59,109 And that's what he wore in the movie. 1050 01:02:59,192 --> 01:03:01,778 One day he came out, he and I were dressed exactly alike. 1051 01:03:02,487 --> 01:03:05,573 We worked a lot on that because we knew that was coming every time, 1052 01:03:06,074 --> 01:03:08,118 and then he was off, talking about stunts. 1053 01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:11,663 Presenting The Stuntman. 1054 01:03:12,122 --> 01:03:14,749 And he's not just your basic everyday stuntman either, 1055 01:03:15,083 --> 01:03:17,252 he was modeled after Hal Needham, 1056 01:03:17,335 --> 01:03:20,338 the guy that I consider to be the best stuntman in the business. 1057 01:03:20,714 --> 01:03:23,258 Well, he had met the guy that owned a toy company, 1058 01:03:23,341 --> 01:03:27,053 they said, "You know, Evel Knievel's doll made a ton of money." 1059 01:03:28,722 --> 01:03:30,912 It was sitting on his desk one day when I went in. 1060 01:03:30,932 --> 01:03:33,560 I said, "Oh, my God, Hal, you've got a doll." 1061 01:03:33,685 --> 01:03:36,062 A little stunt doll, give me a break! 1062 01:03:36,563 --> 01:03:40,275 There's a little ram and you could fly the doll and it'll turn, 1063 01:03:40,358 --> 01:03:43,236 you could make the hat fly off with a string. 1064 01:03:44,654 --> 01:03:46,448 They had designed the prototype, 1065 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,492 but they didn't have the market for it yet. 1066 01:03:50,618 --> 01:03:54,164 We recognized that we're gonna need a big event. 1067 01:03:54,247 --> 01:03:58,001 Hal and Bill Frederick came up with the idea of the rocket car. 1068 01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:02,172 Three, two, one, ignition. 1069 01:04:06,092 --> 01:04:08,575 Wow. Looks like he's off in a good wind this time, kid. 1070 01:04:08,595 --> 01:04:10,722 Thunderous send-off to Hal Needham. 1071 01:04:11,348 --> 01:04:13,516 Climbing to four, to 500, 1072 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,478 almost 550 miles per hour and still climbing. 1073 01:04:16,561 --> 01:04:18,730 That's faster than programmed, kid. 1074 01:04:19,606 --> 01:04:21,421 His chute just came out, his chute deployed, 1075 01:04:21,441 --> 01:04:22,484 but it has not opened. 1076 01:04:22,567 --> 01:04:23,715 Ken, it has not opened. 1077 01:04:23,735 --> 01:04:25,467 He might be in very serious trouble down there. 1078 01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:26,760 He's missed the red flag, 1079 01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:29,616 and he has crashed at the end of the course. 1080 01:04:30,784 --> 01:04:32,160 I'm gonna tell you something, 1081 01:04:32,243 --> 01:04:35,163 the last couple of hundred yards is a son-of-a-gun. 1082 01:04:35,747 --> 01:04:38,208 Hal said, "I'm not going to put my life behind" 1083 01:04:38,291 --> 01:04:40,752 "a 700 mile an hour car any longer." 1084 01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:46,883 It was sometime after the rocket car event that the toy finally emerged. 1085 01:04:47,258 --> 01:04:49,969 It never really made a place in the market. 1086 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,014 He knew he was never gonna be a movie star. 1087 01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:55,892 So, Hal was under tremendous pressure 1088 01:04:55,975 --> 01:04:58,144 to make Smokey and the Bandit a success. 1089 01:05:06,861 --> 01:05:11,950 There's a scene in the picture where it's a small dirt road, bridge. 1090 01:05:12,617 --> 01:05:16,287 The car leaps the bridge, flies through the air and lands on the other side. 1091 01:05:18,123 --> 01:05:20,583 That was really dangerous, there's no... 1092 01:05:20,667 --> 01:05:23,420 That's a problem, you come up short, you got issues here. 1093 01:05:29,676 --> 01:05:31,177 Sorry. I don't want to get married. 1094 01:05:31,845 --> 01:05:33,680 Terrific. That makes two of us. 1095 01:05:34,013 --> 01:05:37,684 Sally and Burt became an item by that day of shooting. 1096 01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:40,353 Hold it, oh, wait, one minute, here we have... 1097 01:05:40,645 --> 01:05:43,648 We watched the dailies and you could kind of see it, it was there. 1098 01:05:43,731 --> 01:05:45,608 When two people are hitting it off 1099 01:05:45,692 --> 01:05:47,610 and you can tell they are liking each other. 1100 01:05:47,694 --> 01:05:51,281 Sometimes, you call action and there are things that happen first. 1101 01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:06,796 I think the Bandit covers up his vulnerability and his 1102 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,384 sensitivity with a lot of braggadocio and fancy shirts 1103 01:06:12,218 --> 01:06:15,805 because I think basically he's rather shy. 1104 01:06:15,889 --> 01:06:17,348 He's only good at one thing. 1105 01:06:17,432 --> 01:06:18,433 Frog? 1106 01:06:18,516 --> 01:06:20,935 Not showing off, but he's great at that. 1107 01:06:21,561 --> 01:06:24,647 I don't wear these kind of shirts, I do wear cowboy hats. 1108 01:06:25,773 --> 01:06:29,110 I think, I'm not real positive about this because 1109 01:06:29,194 --> 01:06:32,447 there's a big debate going on about this in America. 1110 01:06:32,530 --> 01:06:34,073 I think I'm a real good actor. 1111 01:06:36,075 --> 01:06:39,162 Burt Reynolds has been top box office for six years, 1112 01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:41,414 mostly in redneck tough-guy films. 1113 01:06:41,748 --> 01:06:43,833 Now he wants to try serious drama. 1114 01:06:43,958 --> 01:06:47,253 If you wanted to get away from the good ol' boy image, 1115 01:06:48,296 --> 01:06:49,923 will the audience let you? 1116 01:06:50,006 --> 01:06:52,634 If I'm good. If I'm really good. 1117 01:06:53,843 --> 01:06:56,095 And there's no concealing 1118 01:06:56,179 --> 01:06:59,390 The fact I'm feeling bored 1119 01:06:59,474 --> 01:07:03,311 Bored! Bored! 1120 01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:05,230 I find Burt Reynolds the most puzzling actor, 1121 01:07:05,313 --> 01:07:06,940 he has the power and physical attributes 1122 01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:08,816 of the perfect screen tough guy. 1123 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,652 Yet he insists on playing light comedies, 1124 01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:13,112 as if he saw himself as a kind of Cary Grant with muscles. 1125 01:07:13,571 --> 01:07:15,261 The point that seems to escape him, however, 1126 01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:17,367 is that you can't be Cary Grant and have muscles, 1127 01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:19,130 you've got to settle for one or the other. 1128 01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:22,997 He connects, but he doesn't take very good parts. 1129 01:07:23,081 --> 01:07:26,084 He doesn't take the parts that would stretch him and test him. 1130 01:07:26,459 --> 01:07:29,379 He could possibly be as great as Sean Connery, 1131 01:07:29,462 --> 01:07:31,965 if he had more ease about the way he looked. 1132 01:07:32,048 --> 01:07:35,051 You can always feel that he wants to look good 1133 01:07:35,134 --> 01:07:37,387 and this is fatal in a male actor. 1134 01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:39,681 Maybe he's getting bad advice, Pauline. 1135 01:07:39,764 --> 01:07:42,100 Or maybe there's fear in him. 1136 01:07:46,771 --> 01:07:50,191 Burt, when you look in the mirror, what do you see? 1137 01:07:50,733 --> 01:07:52,318 Who do you see? 1138 01:07:55,113 --> 01:07:58,533 You're looking at a very well-paid movie star. 1139 01:07:59,701 --> 01:08:02,412 And a starving actor. Actor. 1140 01:08:04,247 --> 01:08:06,833 To be a personality is painful. 1141 01:08:08,626 --> 01:08:12,338 To be in the public eye is painful. 1142 01:08:12,422 --> 01:08:14,924 'Cause you can never ever give them enough, 1143 01:08:15,008 --> 01:08:17,468 they always want a little bit more. 1144 01:08:20,096 --> 01:08:22,849 Is it true that you are back together with Dinah Shore? 1145 01:08:22,932 --> 01:08:26,185 Do you plan on making any movies on location in Chicago? 1146 01:08:26,311 --> 01:08:28,042 Would you like to go for coffee after the show? 1147 01:08:28,062 --> 01:08:30,273 You said your favorite sport was football, 1148 01:08:30,356 --> 01:08:32,650 is that what influenced you doing The Longest Yard? 1149 01:08:32,734 --> 01:08:34,882 Is it true that you've been trying to adopt a child? 1150 01:08:34,902 --> 01:08:36,259 And do you plan on marrying again? 1151 01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:37,999 Burt, do you really enjoy all this? 1152 01:08:40,575 --> 01:08:42,744 Burt got sick down there, 1153 01:08:42,827 --> 01:08:45,622 and he was struggling to come to the set. 1154 01:08:45,705 --> 01:08:47,457 You talk about change in schedules, 1155 01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:50,710 I mean, Sally couldn't work without Burt because it was in the car. 1156 01:08:54,964 --> 01:08:57,383 He did disappear for a couple of days, yes. 1157 01:08:57,467 --> 01:09:00,553 But I don't want to get into the reasonings. 1158 01:09:03,348 --> 01:09:04,787 Hal understood Burt was an actor. 1159 01:09:04,807 --> 01:09:06,687 Being an actor, he was high strung and neurotic. 1160 01:09:06,768 --> 01:09:08,728 I mean, all actors are crazy, right? 1161 01:09:08,811 --> 01:09:10,938 I mean, Marlon Brando walked out of acting 1162 01:09:11,022 --> 01:09:13,107 because he couldn't take it anymore. 1163 01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:17,445 You must understand, their face is on this 100-foot screen. 1164 01:09:17,528 --> 01:09:18,718 You know who that is? 1165 01:09:18,738 --> 01:09:22,575 If they are embarrassed with what they see, they wanna kill themselves. 1166 01:09:22,659 --> 01:09:26,204 So, the pressure on an actor, on his ego 1167 01:09:26,287 --> 01:09:27,830 is so overwhelming. 1168 01:09:31,626 --> 01:09:34,587 We ain't gonna make it, son. We're gonna hang it up. 1169 01:09:34,671 --> 01:09:37,340 Whoa, negatory, negatory! What are you, crazy or somethin'? 1170 01:09:37,632 --> 01:09:39,592 We come this far, ain't we? 1171 01:09:39,676 --> 01:09:41,969 When we say we gonna do a job, we do a job! 1172 01:09:44,305 --> 01:09:48,142 And Hal came up and said, "I give up, are you doing this?" 1173 01:09:50,103 --> 01:09:53,314 There's one thing about good old Southern boys, all the way through. 1174 01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:56,442 They have a sense of loyalty to their friend. 1175 01:10:03,157 --> 01:10:06,577 I felt like, if anything, I would rebel. 1176 01:10:12,291 --> 01:10:14,877 You got to be dangerous 1177 01:10:14,961 --> 01:10:16,879 as part of being sexy. 1178 01:10:21,467 --> 01:10:22,510 Too late now. 1179 01:10:25,179 --> 01:10:26,973 Let's jump this bridge. 1180 01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:42,780 We jumped over that bridge! We did that! 1181 01:10:42,864 --> 01:10:44,741 Did you see what we did? Yes, I did. 1182 01:10:44,824 --> 01:10:46,617 I wanna jump something else! 1183 01:10:46,701 --> 01:10:49,162 I wanna jump a house! I wanna jump something! 1184 01:10:49,328 --> 01:10:50,913 We'd just done the car jump. 1185 01:10:50,997 --> 01:10:53,040 The director yelled, "That's it, that's a wrap." 1186 01:10:54,167 --> 01:10:56,002 That was the last... The end of the movie. 1187 01:10:56,502 --> 01:10:59,964 Needham, he and I looked over the top of the Trans Am at each other. 1188 01:11:00,882 --> 01:11:03,156 He just gave me a wry smile and looked at me and, you know, 1189 01:11:03,176 --> 01:11:04,741 we just nodded at each other and that was it. 1190 01:11:04,761 --> 01:11:06,429 You're crazy! 1191 01:11:06,512 --> 01:11:08,264 Kind of our moment. 1192 01:11:08,347 --> 01:11:12,185 We realized that it exists and it's gonna be around a lot longer than you are. 1193 01:11:17,356 --> 01:11:21,444 Everybody was convinced it was a toy car that went up, 1194 01:11:21,527 --> 01:11:24,864 but we all know it was a real car. 1195 01:11:24,947 --> 01:11:26,157 With people in it. 1196 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,367 With people in it. 1197 01:11:29,076 --> 01:11:31,078 - And that's Needham. - Yeah. 1198 01:11:31,287 --> 01:11:34,582 It was never... He wouldn't work with a toy anything. 1199 01:11:35,041 --> 01:11:38,544 That was the beautiful art of it and that's the loss. 1200 01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:42,381 They'd figure out a way to do it now without doing it for real. 1201 01:11:42,465 --> 01:11:43,883 We didn't have that technology... 1202 01:11:43,966 --> 01:11:46,594 No, there were people hanging it out there pretty far. 1203 01:11:47,136 --> 01:11:49,889 It all went together and it was magical. 1204 01:11:50,348 --> 01:11:55,102 Universal... I think there's a computer at Universal that 1205 01:11:55,186 --> 01:11:59,315 pretty much predicts what a movie's supposed to make. 1206 01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:06,781 They put in all the facts, the stars, the timing, how many theaters, 1207 01:12:06,864 --> 01:12:08,825 and I think that computer spit out 1208 01:12:08,908 --> 01:12:11,202 for Smokey and the Bandit, one million. 1209 01:12:11,285 --> 01:12:12,411 That was it. 1210 01:12:13,746 --> 01:12:15,832 The general sales manager at Universal, 1211 01:12:15,915 --> 01:12:18,084 having seen the movie by the way, 1212 01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:19,887 I don't think had much faith in the picture. 1213 01:12:20,753 --> 01:12:23,256 He asked that we not sneak preview. 1214 01:12:23,339 --> 01:12:26,300 I think he actually suspected that he was going to lose bookings 1215 01:12:26,384 --> 01:12:28,177 'cause the picture was so bad. 1216 01:13:00,501 --> 01:13:02,837 And I said, "Take it out!" 1217 01:13:06,299 --> 01:13:08,301 You do a comedy that doesn't work... 1218 01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:10,595 Dead! 1219 01:13:10,678 --> 01:13:13,514 And only a fool does it, thinking it's a sure thing. 1220 01:13:14,348 --> 01:13:16,309 I thought it was a very funny movie. 1221 01:13:16,976 --> 01:13:18,958 And then, you know we thought we had great expectations, 1222 01:13:18,978 --> 01:13:20,479 they opened the movie 1223 01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:23,316 in the Radio City Music Hall, and then it died. 1224 01:13:25,776 --> 01:13:30,031 I said, "Wait a minute, you opened it in New York"? 1225 01:13:30,114 --> 01:13:31,949 That's ridiculous. 1226 01:13:32,325 --> 01:13:34,952 It was a disastrous screening. I mean... 1227 01:13:35,494 --> 01:13:40,291 The cards were, you know, "This is boring, we've seen this before." 1228 01:13:40,499 --> 01:13:45,546 I thought, you know, what do I do to get these guys to get it? 1229 01:13:48,341 --> 01:13:51,636 And I said, "Put the damn thing out in the South." 1230 01:13:51,719 --> 01:13:53,262 That's who it was made for. 1231 01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:32,468 How many of you have seen Hal's picture, Smokey and the Bandit? 1232 01:14:34,762 --> 01:14:36,642 - I love it! I love it! - Everybody loves it. 1233 01:14:37,598 --> 01:14:40,309 I bet I've seen that movie 200 times. 1234 01:14:40,393 --> 01:14:42,478 That's probably plus or minus five. 1235 01:14:59,537 --> 01:15:03,332 That little number is the second highest grossing motion picture 1236 01:15:03,416 --> 01:15:05,334 in the history of the motion picture business. 1237 01:15:05,418 --> 01:15:06,732 I'm glad it was because it was a picture 1238 01:15:06,752 --> 01:15:08,067 that wasn't made for the critics, 1239 01:15:08,087 --> 01:15:10,172 it was made for the people. 1240 01:15:10,798 --> 01:15:12,174 How did you like the movie? 1241 01:15:12,258 --> 01:15:13,592 Oh, I just loved it. 1242 01:15:13,926 --> 01:15:15,428 It was so exciting. 1243 01:15:15,678 --> 01:15:17,513 Who was your favorite in the film? Burt. 1244 01:15:18,931 --> 01:15:21,767 Naturally. The dog was good, too. 1245 01:15:23,060 --> 01:15:26,230 All of us that live in that part of the country go, 1246 01:15:26,313 --> 01:15:27,857 "Yup, that's about how it works." 1247 01:15:27,940 --> 01:15:29,251 Or, "He reminds me of my uncle." 1248 01:15:29,275 --> 01:15:30,776 Or, "He reminds me of my dad," 1249 01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:32,508 or, "He reminds me of my neighbor down the road." 1250 01:15:32,528 --> 01:15:33,863 Who's gonna hold your hat? 1251 01:15:33,946 --> 01:15:37,116 You know, in the South, they think of Smokey and the Bandit as a documentary. 1252 01:15:38,659 --> 01:15:41,746 It had a cultural impact that I don't think any of us could have imagined. 1253 01:15:41,829 --> 01:15:45,041 I mean, to this very day it's a friendlier South 1254 01:15:45,124 --> 01:15:47,460 than maybe a lot of people had seen before. 1255 01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:50,296 And maybe in that there is an elegance. 1256 01:15:51,505 --> 01:15:55,342 The buzz was huge. I mean, it was huge. 1257 01:15:58,929 --> 01:16:00,411 You know, in the days of silent movies, 1258 01:16:00,431 --> 01:16:02,271 the chase was often the highlight of the story. 1259 01:16:02,308 --> 01:16:06,979 So Hollywood figured if audiences like a little, they'll love a lot. 1260 01:16:07,146 --> 01:16:10,357 And pretty soon there's no meal at all, it's all dessert. 1261 01:16:10,483 --> 01:16:13,194 It's not a B movie. It's A++. 1262 01:16:13,277 --> 01:16:15,821 Burt bought us through the disco era. 1263 01:16:15,905 --> 01:16:18,991 He kept us all alive and gave us a reason to say, 1264 01:16:19,075 --> 01:16:21,494 "Hey, we still got a hero out here." 1265 01:16:21,577 --> 01:16:23,829 When I say Burt Reynolds right now... 1266 01:16:24,663 --> 01:16:28,459 Black cowboy hat, mustache. Is that what you see? 1267 01:16:28,542 --> 01:16:31,003 It's what I see. I also see him in a Trans Am. 1268 01:16:31,545 --> 01:16:34,340 If he drove up in a Lexus, it would just destroy me. 1269 01:16:35,508 --> 01:16:39,428 The Washington Post critic in that person's opinion, 1270 01:16:39,512 --> 01:16:41,222 greatest road movie ever made. 1271 01:16:42,389 --> 01:16:45,935 This new talent that had emerged on the American film scene, 1272 01:16:46,018 --> 01:16:48,020 Hal Needham, made Preston Sturges, 1273 01:16:48,187 --> 01:16:50,147 and John Ford and all of these people, 1274 01:16:50,231 --> 01:16:52,650 you know, look like second stringers. 1275 01:16:52,733 --> 01:16:55,820 The critic thought this was, you know, the Second Coming of Christ. 1276 01:16:56,695 --> 01:16:58,864 I mean, the picture elevated Hal, 1277 01:16:58,948 --> 01:17:00,825 and Hal was no longer a stuntman. 1278 01:17:03,994 --> 01:17:06,122 So, my father decided it was time to 1279 01:17:06,205 --> 01:17:08,290 move out of Burt Reynolds' house. 1280 01:17:08,666 --> 01:17:12,211 You get married, you settle down and then, 1281 01:17:12,294 --> 01:17:15,089 you have to move out, you gotta get your own place. 1282 01:17:22,721 --> 01:17:24,640 I've always wanted to have a theater, 1283 01:17:25,182 --> 01:17:27,434 all my life, ever since I started being an actor. 1284 01:17:28,269 --> 01:17:29,812 How are you tonight? 1285 01:17:29,895 --> 01:17:32,022 If you'll follow Bruce, he'll take you to your seats. 1286 01:17:32,106 --> 01:17:33,506 Good evening. How are you all doing? 1287 01:17:38,863 --> 01:17:42,241 And I think secretly, most actors, 1288 01:17:42,658 --> 01:17:44,076 back in the back of their mind, 1289 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,872 think about going back to their hometown and building a theater. 1290 01:17:49,373 --> 01:17:51,792 We have an apprentice program, and they're learning 1291 01:17:51,876 --> 01:17:54,962 that it isn't just stardust and moonbeams. 1292 01:17:55,296 --> 01:17:57,756 It's a lot of hard work, a lot of pain... 1293 01:17:58,132 --> 01:18:00,926 Get out of here! Punctuate it. 1294 01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:03,179 Burt Reynolds is a hungry man. 1295 01:18:03,262 --> 01:18:06,974 I think he is hungry to show everybody and the world that he is more 1296 01:18:08,601 --> 01:18:10,936 than the illusion that he presents. 1297 01:18:12,313 --> 01:18:14,481 Do you want to be taken more seriously 1298 01:18:14,565 --> 01:18:17,776 or would you go on doing these stunting performances? 1299 01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:23,282 Well, I think that probably 1300 01:18:23,949 --> 01:18:27,578 20 years from now these "stunting performances" as you call them 1301 01:18:27,661 --> 01:18:29,914 will be considered minor works of art. 1302 01:18:31,624 --> 01:18:34,627 And they'll say, "Those were damn good films." 1303 01:18:34,793 --> 01:18:36,712 For what they were, they weren't trying 1304 01:18:36,795 --> 01:18:38,672 to be anything other than what they were. 1305 01:18:39,256 --> 01:18:42,009 But for what they were, they were terrific. 1306 01:18:42,134 --> 01:18:45,304 But you're still shooting for a Casablanca in your career? 1307 01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:47,556 Yeah, I'm shooting for a Casablanca, 1308 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,892 and you know what I'll do when I get my Casablanca? 1309 01:18:49,975 --> 01:18:52,686 I'll go right back and make a Smokey and the Bandit. 1310 01:18:54,813 --> 01:18:58,234 Burt, the co-writer and director of Smokey and the Bandit. 1311 01:18:58,317 --> 01:19:00,319 Your pal, Hal Needham. 1312 01:19:03,530 --> 01:19:05,699 First off, let me say that I'm sure 1313 01:19:05,783 --> 01:19:07,868 nobody expects me to play a guitar or sing 1314 01:19:07,952 --> 01:19:09,703 'cause y'all know better than that. 1315 01:19:09,787 --> 01:19:13,332 I only have one God-given talent and that was to fall on my head, 1316 01:19:13,415 --> 01:19:16,043 and I'm thankful for that because it allowed me 1317 01:19:16,126 --> 01:19:19,296 to meet Burt Reynolds some 20 some-odd years ago. 1318 01:19:20,547 --> 01:19:22,507 I always told him if he'd have been a woman, 1319 01:19:22,549 --> 01:19:24,468 we'd have had a great marriage. 1320 01:19:25,803 --> 01:19:27,638 He was an amazing man. 1321 01:19:29,265 --> 01:19:32,851 They don't come along like that but once in your lifetime. 1322 01:19:35,646 --> 01:19:39,066 You're a doll, I love you, and I owe everything to you, Burt. Thank you. 1323 01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:46,907 I just wanna make a wish. 1324 01:19:57,918 --> 01:20:00,713 Certain people show up in your life, 1325 01:20:01,380 --> 01:20:04,300 and the magic happens, and it doesn't always happen. 1326 01:20:04,383 --> 01:20:06,051 But when the magic happens... 1327 01:20:09,888 --> 01:20:11,181 You know something? 1328 01:20:12,141 --> 01:20:15,352 You're looking at the luckiest man alive. 1329 01:20:17,062 --> 01:20:20,816 So we're talking and I say, "Hal, can you believe your success" 1330 01:20:21,191 --> 01:20:25,404 "from the sharecropper's kid in Arkansas. You do Smokey and the Bandit." 1331 01:20:25,487 --> 01:20:28,449 "Yeah, " he said. "It's been a good run, man." 1332 01:20:28,532 --> 01:20:32,619 Folks didn't think too much of me, what I was gonna amount to. 1333 01:20:34,997 --> 01:20:37,583 But for sure, for sure... 1334 01:20:40,002 --> 01:20:44,214 My mom is looking down on tonight 1335 01:20:45,507 --> 01:20:47,760 with a big smile on her face. 1336 01:20:55,601 --> 01:20:58,896 I wanna thank the entire Hollywood community 1337 01:20:59,938 --> 01:21:02,733 for allowing me to be part of it. 1338 01:21:03,025 --> 01:21:04,818 Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 1339 01:21:13,118 --> 01:21:14,578 When I heard that he'd passed, 1340 01:21:16,038 --> 01:21:20,793 I thought, "What in God's name could kill him?" 1341 01:21:21,293 --> 01:21:22,628 "What could kill him?" 1342 01:21:22,711 --> 01:21:25,464 He was the only guy that I thought might live forever. 1343 01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:30,344 He liked speed. 1344 01:21:30,594 --> 01:21:32,805 He liked to bend the rules a little bit. 1345 01:21:33,138 --> 01:21:35,599 He liked to live life on his own terms. 1346 01:21:36,392 --> 01:21:39,937 Hal Needham was and will always be The Bandit. 106887

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