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WILLIAM SHATNER:
A village celebration
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attended by human remains.
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An underground labyrinth
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filled with skeletons.
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And a remote mountain lake
that hides...
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a deadly secret.
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After we die,
what do we really leave behind?
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Our bones?
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That's it?
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But there are those who believe
that our bones are much more
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than mere lifeless reminders
of our existence.
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It's thought by many that
our remains can bring good luck,
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good health, or even allow us
to speak with the dead.
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Is it possible that our bones
hold some kind of sacred power?
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Or perhaps even our souls?
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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โช โช
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On this large island
in the Indian Ocean,
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some 250 miles off
the eastern coast of Africa,
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the indigenous Malagasy people
gather every few years
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for a multi-generational
celebration
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known as "Famadihana."
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But this party is not
a typical family get-together
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because the Malagasy don't just
invite their living relatives
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to this reunion.
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They also invite the dead ones.
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DOMINIC STEAVU:
Famadihana,
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or the turning of the bones,
is a ritual that is performed
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usually once every
five to seven years,
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in which a... uh, the family
or the relatives
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of a deceased person
will get together
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from all over, and celebrate
the life of the deceased.
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They exhume the body,
they carefully lay it out,
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they clean it, and then
change the death shrouds,
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on the basis of this idea
that the living can intervene
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on behalf of the dead,
to improve their lot
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or their level of comfort
in the afterlife.
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One part of the celebration
also involves
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basically shouldering
the bones of the deceased,
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and the turning of the bones
will take place.
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Sometimes dancing with them.
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(cheering, whooping)
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Usually the ceremony concludes
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when they re-entomb the remains
of the deceased.
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But they're not
cutting off the memory
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of this person
from their lives.
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They will keep them present
in their lives,
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until the next time
they see them,
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which is periodically,
every five to seven years.
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And this is a way to really
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reinforce the connection
between the living and the dead.
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JONATHAN YOUNG:
People will come to honor
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the lost ancestors, to be sure.
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But also, to work
on coming to terms
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with death that hovers
around our lives.
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Some cultures deal with it
more directly than others.
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And the value
of this tradition is
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that it's a different way
of thinking
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about how death ends a life, but
it does not end a relationship.
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So, it is lovely, even though
it's a little eerie.
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It reminds us
the dead aren't entirely gone.
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SHATNER:
Bones.
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Our bodies contain 206 of them,
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and each one has been
meticulously studied
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and catalogued by scientists.
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And yet, for some reason,
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the sight
of our skeletal remains
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still sparks morbid fascination
and mystery.
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But why is that?
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YOUNG:
The skeleton represents death,
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and the danger of death
and our mortality.
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This symbol is so universal
that it shows up
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in different
geographical locations,
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in areas that have
different religions.
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It also is a kind of warning,
"Danger here,"
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if there's a dangerous
location or a poison.
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"Don't drink this."
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And then, of course, it was
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on the flag of the pirates,
the Jolly Roger.
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A very quick
symbolic representation
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that, "Deal with us,
and you're dealing with death."
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TOK THOMPSON:
Certainly, skeletons
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are an easy symbol that can be
reused in many, many cultures.
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The skeleton is spooky,
it's scary.
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On the other hand,
how we interact
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with actual skeletons
is enormously different.
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Skeletons are never mundane,
they are always important,
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a truly sacred object.
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Globally speaking,
one theme that you will see
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throughout all civilizations
is this idea
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that people should
have a proper funeral,
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or-or whatever funerary rite,
and that without that,
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the process
of leaving one's body,
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going into the spirit world
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uh, might be somehow disturbed.
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YOUNG:
There are many belief systems
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that suggest the soul is
attached to the body,
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particularly the bones,
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and that as long as bones exist,
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some trace presence of soul,
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the soul of the person
that lived in that body
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will still remain
with the bones.
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SHATNER:
Could it be true that our souls
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really remain in our bones
after we die?
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While that idea may sound
far-fetched,
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there are some people around
the world who believe it's true.
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In fact, it's often thought
that our souls lie
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within the most recognizable
part of the human body--
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the skull.
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SARAH LACY:
People really
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latch onto skulls as being
the most important bone
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that gets left behind.
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Many cultures assume
that thought
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and consciousness exists
in the skull,
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and it's quite common,
then, to also assume
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that the soul resides
within that part of the body
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and to assume that it stays
there in the skull after death.
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ANDREW COLLINS:
In the past, many different cultures believed
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that skulls were
incredibly important
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because they were seen as points
of contact with the ancestors.
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By holding them, um,
by connecting in mind with them,
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you could actually communicate,
you know, with your departed.
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So, they were often decorated,
plaster was put around them,
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they were given
cowrie shell eyes.
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And it was believed
that these would act
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as points of communication
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with whoever they represented
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on Earth
when they were still alive.
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SHATNER:
Each year, on November 8,
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the indigenous Aymara people
gather for an ancient custom,
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a colorful procession known
as "Dรญa de las รatitas,"
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or the Festival of Skulls.
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STEAVU:
The Aymara indigenous people
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of Bolivia and Peru keep skulls
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in shrines in the home.
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They keep them
in places of honor
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in households and make
regular offerings to them.
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The skulls are thought
to bring harmony to the family.
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They're thought to protect
people from illness and death.
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And they also
ask them for advice.
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They ask them for support
or for help.
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And once a year,
they will take out the skull
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and parade them
in this festival.
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PAUL KOUDOUNARIS:
You'll get 20,000 or 30,000 people
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down in the cemetery.
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It's really quite a spectacle
'cause you'll get people
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bringing five or more skulls
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down in big boxes,
and they dress them up.
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If it's cold in the morning,
they'll put on a hat.
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They'll put sunglasses on them.
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And there are certain offerings
that are pretty typical--
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cigarettes, alcohol,
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little bits of money,
coca leaves, things like that.
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You know, and it's kind of
a "thank you" to make sure
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the dead will continue
to assist the living.
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STEAVU:
These skulls are perceived as a kind of portal
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between the realm
of the living and the dead.
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A site where the spirit
of the deceased can manifest.
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And it's through these skulls
that the living can communicate
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with the dead,
as if they are living
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and as if they are present,
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there and then, in those skulls.
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There's something about the way
that the skulls are presented
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that you feel like these
individuals are being venerated.
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We're a species that
communicates with our face.
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So, it shouldn't surprise us
that we really fixate
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on the skull, as being a way
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to honor and communicate
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with those ancestors.
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SHATNER:
Do our bones retain some spiritual essence
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of who we are?
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An energy that lingers
long after our flesh decays?
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Perhaps the answer can be found
by examining the earthly remains
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of certain holy individuals.
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Remains that have been carefully
preserved by the faithful
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for thousands of years.
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SHATNER:
High atop a plateau
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overlooking the Allegheny River
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sits Saint Anthony's Chapel.
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Every day, Christians
from all over the world pass
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beneath its tall spires
and rounded arches
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to participate
in devotion and prayer.
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However, it's not the outside
of Saint Anthony's Chapel
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that makes it such
an inspiring destination,
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but rather, the inside.
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Because within
this church lies something
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that is quite unusual.
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A collection
of thousands of bones
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that once belonged
to Catholic Saints.
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VASKOV:
When you come here and you walk in and you see
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these beautiful gold
or brass reliquaries
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and just how vast
the collection is,
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which include anything
from part of an arm bone
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or a leg bone, to the skulls,
and the full skeletons,
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it really is just overwhelming.
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At Saint Anthony Chapel,
there are over 5,000 relics,
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and this collection is
second only to the Vatican.
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So, here at Saint Anthony's,
it really is a unique experience
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to come and see
the relics of saints.
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SHATNER:
The relics of Saint Anthony,
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Saint Demetrius,
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Saint Stephana,
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and Saint Theodore,
among many others,
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are kept
in Saint Anthony's Chapel.
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YOUNG:
St. Anthony's is quite a place.
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They have items-- they come from
the four corners of the world,
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mostly the Holy Land,
and they're all protected there,
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and we can see these relics.
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You can see a little
of the holy there
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in a tooth, or a piece of skull,
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which is a relic,
a piece of a saint.
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A relic that you can actually
look at and be close to.
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That's like a little bit of God
right there in the chapel.
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SHATNER:
Millions of Christians consider holy relics
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to be sacred.
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And it's well-known
that the bones
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of many saints are preserved in
cathedrals throughout the world.
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But how did such a vast
collection of relics end up
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in a chapel in Pittsburgh?
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VASKOV:
What makes the collection
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of relics here
particularly unique
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is the way in which
they were obtained
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by Father Mollinger,
who built the chapel.
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He obtained them
in the late 1880s
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because there were people
who just thought
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that the relics had no value,
and things were being discarded.
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Father Mollinger had a network
of people in Europe
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who were preserving the relics,
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and he would go
and retrieve them himself.
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We have pilgrimages come in at
least once a week if not more.
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And what a gift it is to be able
to welcome them
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and share this treasure
that we have here.
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SHATNER:
Each and every relic is enclosed with a wax seal,
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both to ensure its authenticity,
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and to protect it
from those who might wish
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to tamper with the holy remains.
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But why are holy relics
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so coveted and revered
in the first place?
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Why go to such
extraordinary lengths
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to preserve these ancient bones?
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KEN JEREMIAH:
All throughout Europe, in churches,
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you'll see these
bejeweled skeletons
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adorned with gold, silver,
and expensive jewels,
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that really look like
they're works of art,
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but strange works of art.
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And the whole purpose
of this is because
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there is this idea,
especially in Christianity,
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that there is this inherent
spiritual power
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that infuses the remains,
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and that spirit has
to be honored.
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McGOWAN:
The bones of saints and martyrs
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in Christianity are
of exceptional value,
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and extraordinary power
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according
to Christian tradition.
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It was believed
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that when a saint was murdered
for their beliefs,
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that their bones became infused
with their sanctity,
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the essence of their grace.
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ROBERT CARGILL:
Holy relics,
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specifically skeletal relics,
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stem from this tradition
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that the bones themselves
possess power.
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And this comes from the Bible.
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You have a story in 2 Kings,
in the Hebrew Bible,
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in the Old Testament
of a burial procession.
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And they were doing a burial.
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And they saw
some invaders coming,
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and they just threw the body
on top of the bones
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of the prophet Elisha,
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which were already lying
in the ground.
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And as soon as the dead body
touched the bones of Elisha,
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they came back to life.
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So, obviously,
the bones of Elisha have
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some life-giving property.
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McGOWAN:
We also have stories
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from the very beginning
of Christianity
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about miracles related to
the bones of different saints.
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The bones of Saint Lazarus,
for example,
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who was raised from the dead
by Jesus, were highly coveted.
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And there are legends
in Provence
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that the bones of Lazarus
were brought in
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to people
who were sick and dying,
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and that utilizing the bones
in the presence
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of these people
with the right kind of prayers
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would then heal them
of this near fatal illness.
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THOMPSON:
There was a huge, lucrative market
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in Medieval Europe
for saints' bones.
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Different cathedrals would be
vying with each other
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about who could have
the most important relics.
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So even today, if you go
to the cathedrals of Europe,
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any good cathedral
will have a few
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body parts in there of saints.
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SHATNER:
Ancient relics that can channel the power of God?
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For some, that idea is
a little hard to believe.
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In fact, there are
many skeptics who claim
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that supposed holy relics are
not even the actual bones
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of Christian saints.
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And yet, some of these relics
have been proven
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to be quite authentic.
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Of all the holy relics
that exist from the saints,
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perhaps the most fascinating
is the skull of Mary Magdalene.
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The relics and the skull
of Mary Magdalene have been kept
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on display in
the Basilica of Saint-Maximin
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in the southwest of France
since about the fourth century
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and have been dated
and carbon-dated
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and examined in a number
of different ways.
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So, we're pretty clear
that these are actually
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truly the relics
of Mary Magdalene.
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Now because Mary Magdalene
was present
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for the resurrection
of Jesus Christ,
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her relics were considered
to have even more power
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and importance
than perhaps any other saint.
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There was an understanding that
you could even potentially
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bring somebody back
from the dead
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with the relics
of Mary Magdalene.
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There have been miracles
recorded for centuries
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from people who were in the
presence of Magdalene's relics.
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And many people believe
that you could benefit
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from the extraordinary sanctity
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that was said to rest
in her bones.
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And people who go
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to revere her skull have
incredibly powerful
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emotional experiences with it.
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It really radiates a type
of grace and a spirituality.
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And people walk
away from it sobbing.
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People fall to their knees.
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VASKOV:
I've heard many stories of people who trust,
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with all their heart,
that the encounter they had
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with the relics of saints
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brought about healing
in their life.
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In fact,
over in the chapel museum,
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there are crutches
and canes and things
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that people were able to cast
aside because they were healed.
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If someone would doubt
whether this is real,
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whether this is authentic,
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I would just invite them
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to talk to someone whose life,
even in the slightest way,
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was made better
or made different
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because of their encounter with
the saints through holy relics.
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It's fascinating to think
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about how the bones of saints
could be imbued
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with divine power than can
actually bring us closer to God.
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But what happens
when the remains
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of the dead aren't treated
with such veneration and care?
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Perhaps the answer can be found
deep beneath the city of Paris
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in a labyrinth of tunnels
that has been called
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"The Empire of the Dead."
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SHATNER: More than two million
people live and work
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in this
41-square-mile metropolis.
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And although Paris is one
of the world's most
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instantly recognizable cities,
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just below the surface
of the City of Light
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lurks a mysterious darkness--
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a centuries-old labyrinth
of tunnels that contains
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the bones of millions
of bodies--
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the Paris Catacombs.
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JEREMIAH:
When you walk in there,
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you will see bones stacked.
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They're everywhere.
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You'll have thigh bones
stacked up in places.
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You'll have skulls
stacked in other places.
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It's almost like a warehouse
of human bones.
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LACY:
We don't know which bone goes with which.
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Sometimes they're just
piled up, but sometimes
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it's almost a decoration,
where they put them.
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In some cases,
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they're more architecturally
or artistically placed.
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YOUNG:
There are lined along the walls, thousands
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of skeletons, some with bits
of clothing hanging off of them.
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It's a whole network
of tunnels really.
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There's about a mile of it
that's open to visitors,
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and you can see some
of these places.
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SHATNER:
Over the main entrance to the Paris Catacombs,
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there is carved a sign which,
when translated, reads,
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"Stop. This is
the Empire of the Dead."
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According to some estimates,
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the Paris Catacombs
hold the bones
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of more than six million people.
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But why did Parisians decide
to stack all these bones
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together in the first place?
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LACY:
In Paris, you had people being buried
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in a traditional sense
in a graveyard.
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But those are finite locations.
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And they started
running out of space.
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So, if that is the case,
after a certain amount of time,
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individuals are going
to get dug back up
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to create space for new burials,
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and you have to do something
with those bones.
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So, they started
to utilize catacombs as a way
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to relocate those bones.
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THOMPSON:
In the Parisian Catacombs,
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very often bones have
been rearranged,
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made into even sculptural
sort of forms.
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In many ways, this conflicts
with that Christian idea
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of keeping the body together.
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KOUDOUNARIS:
The one thing
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most funeral practices
have in the world
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is some kind of respect
for one's ancestor,
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or some kind of feeling that
this is one last act of charity
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that needs to be completed for
the soul to move on properly.
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On the other hand,
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the Paris Catacombs
was not a sacred site.
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They are going to get rid
of the old bones,
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and they don't want
to have this problem again.
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I would question whether the
Paris Catacombs are respectful
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to the dead or not.
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SHATNER:
Did the builders of the Paris Catacombs
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desecrate the souls of the dead
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by moving their bones
from cemeteries
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to the dark tunnels
beneath the city?
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There are many who believe
the answer is "yes,"
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and there's a local legend
which says that moving the bones
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of so many deceased people
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unleashed a dark
and malevolent force
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that still haunts the catacombs.
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It is believed that if you're
there in the hours of darkness,
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after midnight,
that you hear whispers
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coming from the spirits
of the skeletons,
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drawing you deeper and deeper
and deeper into the catacombs,
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where you get so lost,
you will never get out.
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(ghostly whispering)
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YOUNG:
The system of tunnels is really elaborate.
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You can get turned around
down there and get lost.
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There's a legend
in the city of Paris
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that there was a doorman
at a hospital
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named Philibert Aspairt,
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and he went on an errand
down a staircase.
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One rumor is that he was going
to the wine cellar
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to get a certain cognac.
We don't know.
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But there were various points of
entry into the Paris Catacombs,
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and apparently, he went down
the wrong staircase.
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And he got himself in there
and turned around and lost,
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and never came out
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and died in there.
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And they didn't find his body
for 11 years.
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So, they buried him
right there in 1804.
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KOUDOUNARIS:
Paris Catacombs really were designed
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to be a spectacle
and a tourist attraction.
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You know, they were not designed
to have a sacred function.
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You didn't go down
in there and pray.
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They designed it
to be a famous macabre site.
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And the whole point of it
was, like, you know,
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you look in this room,
and you cannot tell
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the king from the pauper.
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You cannot tell the wise man
from the fool.
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Death is this great leveler.
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Understanding that aspect
of death is an incentive
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to live right.
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If you think about it,
the Paris Catacombs are
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a pretty grim reminder
that we have no control
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over what happens
to our bones after we die.
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But there's another location,
high in the Himalayas,
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that is even more unsettling.
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A place where the bones of
hundreds of people can be found
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beneath the waters
of an icy lake.
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SHATNER: High atop
the Himalayan Mountains
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sits a small body of water
called "Roopkund Lake."
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For most of the year,
the lake's waters are frozen.
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But during the summer months,
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as the snow and ice
slowly melt away,
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a bizarre spectacle is revealed.
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PRYOR:
Roopkund Lake is a place high up
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in the Himalayan Mountains
in the northern part of India.
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It's close to the second
highest mountain in India.
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And it is mostly unremarkable,
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other than the fact
that we have thousands
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of human bones scattered around
the shores of this lake,
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and that really is something
which is exceptional.
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Now, these bones have been known
about for a very long time.
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The site is visited by locals
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and by tourists and backpackers
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who have interacted
with the bones.
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LACY:
As people have come by, people have picked the bones up,
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they've stacked them into piles,
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and in many cases,
walked off with them.
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So, this location is
an interesting example of
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how humans interact with bones.
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There are still a lot
of unanswered questions.
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Did all those individuals
die there,
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or were they taken there
from somewhere else?
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Is it possible that in the past,
there were ceremonies
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about disposing of bodies
in this location
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that have been lost to time?
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PRYOR:
I know that we have the remains
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from something like
600 to 800 human individuals.
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These bones are from adults,
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and for many years,
there was a common assumption
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that all of these individuals
had all died
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as a result of one
catastrophic event.
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THOMPSON:
Most mass graves that we see around the world
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are the results of one event.
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A mass slaughter,
a mass catastrophe.
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In the case of Roopkund Lake,
you see something different.
494
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,693
Looking at the bones, people
have been able to figure out
495
00:26:10,778 --> 00:26:12,820
that there are several
different population groups
496
00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:14,989
that are located in this lake,
497
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:19,109
separated by hundreds,
possibly even 1,000 years.
498
00:26:19,203 --> 00:26:20,995
So clearly,
it was not one event.
499
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,497
Clearly, there was
a series of events
500
00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:26,166
around this lake
that led to people being here.
501
00:26:26,252 --> 00:26:29,286
SHATNER:
Experts have had trouble explaining
502
00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:31,171
why so many groups
of people journeyed
503
00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:33,632
to this lake at different times,
504
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,969
over the course
of centuries, and died.
505
00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:40,180
It's a fascinating story,
and recently,
506
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:43,851
the collection of bones
has become even more mysterious.
507
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:48,814
In 2019, scientists from
Harvard University conducted
508
00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:51,734
a DNA study and found
that some of the people
509
00:26:51,819 --> 00:26:55,821
who died at this lake
came from far away.
510
00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:59,658
Very far away.
511
00:26:59,785 --> 00:27:03,912
THOMPSON:
Most people are from South Asia,
512
00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:07,541
but one significant population
group seems to have been
513
00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:12,087
from Greece, specifically
from an island of Crete.
514
00:27:12,173 --> 00:27:14,882
So one big question is,
what was a bunch of
515
00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:16,508
people from the island of Crete
516
00:27:16,636 --> 00:27:20,846
doing up in northern India
even to begin with?
517
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:24,266
Let alone, how they ended up
at the bottom of Roopkund Lake?
518
00:27:24,352 --> 00:27:28,646
PRYOR:
The only thing which really makes any kind of sense
519
00:27:28,731 --> 00:27:30,064
is the idea that they were
on a pilgrimage
520
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:31,565
through the mountains.
521
00:27:31,651 --> 00:27:34,401
Now, this is documented
and known in recent times.
522
00:27:34,487 --> 00:27:36,528
There is a pilgrimage
which is made
523
00:27:36,656 --> 00:27:38,197
by people following
the Hindu faith,
524
00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:40,449
who will travel
through these mountains.
525
00:27:40,534 --> 00:27:45,028
SHATNER:
Is it possible the bones in Roopkund Lake
526
00:27:45,122 --> 00:27:46,914
are the remains
of unlucky travelers
527
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:50,501
on pilgrimage
through the Himalayas?
528
00:27:50,586 --> 00:27:54,713
And if so,
what caused their demise?
529
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,509
Some experts believe a clue
may be found in a local legend
530
00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:03,213
involving a Hindu goddess
named "Nanda Devi."
531
00:28:03,307 --> 00:28:05,766
STEAVU:
Nanda Devi is a mountain goddess
532
00:28:05,851 --> 00:28:09,978
that oversees the second
tallest mountain in India.
533
00:28:10,064 --> 00:28:13,607
There are shrines built to her
throughout the mountain.
534
00:28:14,902 --> 00:28:17,561
So there is this legend
of a king and queen
535
00:28:17,655 --> 00:28:19,613
and, uh, their many attendants
536
00:28:19,699 --> 00:28:21,573
making their way up
the mountain
537
00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:25,285
to one of these shrines.
538
00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:28,414
They were being
boisterous and festive
539
00:28:28,541 --> 00:28:31,917
as they approached the shrine.
540
00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:34,378
And Nanda Devi
was insulted by that.
541
00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:36,046
She felt that they weren't
542
00:28:36,132 --> 00:28:37,965
respectful enough
of this sacred space.
543
00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:43,595
So, out of anger,
she called on these iron balls
544
00:28:43,723 --> 00:28:48,058
to rain from the sky
onto the king and queen
545
00:28:48,144 --> 00:28:50,761
and their entire party.
546
00:28:50,855 --> 00:28:53,480
Now, this is believed
to be the explanation
547
00:28:53,566 --> 00:28:57,276
for at least some
of the human remains
548
00:28:57,403 --> 00:29:00,863
that were found at the bottom
of this lake on the mountain.
549
00:29:00,948 --> 00:29:04,608
Many of them died from
blunt force trauma to the skull.
550
00:29:05,786 --> 00:29:07,953
THOMPSON:
This is an area without a lot of tree cover,
551
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,164
without a lot of shelter,
and it's also an area
552
00:29:10,249 --> 00:29:12,750
that is known
for intense hailstorms.
553
00:29:12,835 --> 00:29:16,795
Hailstorms with hail
as big as your fist.
554
00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:18,622
And you can imagine
if you're out in a caravan
555
00:29:18,716 --> 00:29:19,956
or a pilgrimage,
and all of a sudden,
556
00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:24,303
this massive hail
comes down in this area,
557
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,805
that could take out
people regularly
558
00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:29,683
over a thousand years'
time period.
559
00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:32,186
It's plausible.
560
00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:34,021
But what's also clear
is that when people started
561
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:36,139
seeing all
these skeletons together,
562
00:29:36,233 --> 00:29:37,941
all sorts of stories
were developed
563
00:29:38,027 --> 00:29:40,977
as to who these people were
and why they were there.
564
00:29:41,071 --> 00:29:42,529
And I think this reminds us
565
00:29:42,615 --> 00:29:44,865
that if people see
something anomalous,
566
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:46,784
you seek an explanation.
567
00:29:46,869 --> 00:29:49,870
If you see a whole bunch
of skeletons in one place,
568
00:29:49,955 --> 00:29:52,372
people are going
to try to explain it.
569
00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:54,333
Whether or not
the people who traveled
570
00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:57,753
to Skeletons Lake were
the victims of an angry goddess,
571
00:29:57,838 --> 00:30:00,506
or just freak hailstorms,
572
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:03,300
perhaps the real lesson
of Skeletons Lake is
573
00:30:03,385 --> 00:30:07,596
that our bones tell stories
even after we're dead.
574
00:30:07,681 --> 00:30:10,891
And that's certainly the case
with an ancient skull
575
00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,602
that was recently discovered.
576
00:30:13,687 --> 00:30:18,774
A skull that calls into question
the origins of humanity.
577
00:30:23,614 --> 00:30:28,325
SHATNER: Paleontologists from
China's Hebei GEO University
578
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,619
analyze an astonishing discovery
579
00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:32,913
from the bottom of
an ancient well.
580
00:30:32,998 --> 00:30:34,832
(camera shutter clicking)
581
00:30:34,917 --> 00:30:39,586
Their study is of the largest
human skull ever found.
582
00:30:39,672 --> 00:30:43,882
The extraordinary find makes
headlines around the world
583
00:30:43,968 --> 00:30:48,128
and sparks intense debate
about this ancient skull,
584
00:30:48,222 --> 00:30:51,807
which scientists have
nicknamed the "Dragon Man."
585
00:30:52,935 --> 00:30:58,146
The Dragon Man skull is arguably
the most mysterious cranium
586
00:30:58,274 --> 00:31:00,473
that's ever been discovered
in this world.
587
00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:03,318
It is the largest ever.
588
00:31:03,445 --> 00:31:09,491
It's actually around nine inches
long by six inches across.
589
00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:15,330
It was discovered in 1933
by a Chinese workman.
590
00:31:15,457 --> 00:31:20,002
And because at the time,
that part of China was occupied
591
00:31:20,129 --> 00:31:23,297
by the Japanese, he felt
that the best thing to do was
592
00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:26,341
to hide it away in a well.
593
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:34,141
And it was left there until 2018
when he revealed the location
594
00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:35,851
to his grandson.
595
00:31:35,978 --> 00:31:39,179
The grandson went and dug it up,
596
00:31:39,273 --> 00:31:42,774
and it was still there
in absolute perfect condition.
597
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:46,945
And he gave it
to a local university,
598
00:31:47,031 --> 00:31:49,197
and it obviously came
to the attention
599
00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:51,950
of the scientific community.
600
00:31:52,036 --> 00:31:53,702
The Dragon Man skull
is interesting because
601
00:31:53,829 --> 00:31:56,955
the cranial shape is shaped
like an American football
602
00:31:57,041 --> 00:32:00,042
being very elongated,
603
00:32:00,169 --> 00:32:02,085
whereas a modern human skull,
Homo sapiens,
604
00:32:02,171 --> 00:32:04,546
would be more rounded in shape.
605
00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:06,465
The skull is
generally very robust,
606
00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:09,635
including a very
pronounced brow ridge.
607
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,596
The eye sockets on Dragon Man
are also very large
608
00:32:12,681 --> 00:32:16,049
and more square in shape
versus a modern human's
609
00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:18,644
which are smaller
and more rounded.
610
00:32:18,729 --> 00:32:21,438
Based off of what we know
about the skull,
611
00:32:21,523 --> 00:32:24,066
it probably dates
to around 200,000 years ago.
612
00:32:24,193 --> 00:32:26,777
Dragon Man is such
a new discovery
613
00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:29,237
that lots of ideas are coming
out of the field
614
00:32:29,365 --> 00:32:33,325
about exactly what did
this population look like
615
00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:35,568
and how do they relate to us?
616
00:32:35,663 --> 00:32:37,454
PRYOR:
The Dragon Man
617
00:32:37,539 --> 00:32:39,572
is bringing us face to face
for the first time
618
00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:42,876
with a new Asian version
of human,
619
00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,920
which very likely
we also interbred with,
620
00:32:45,047 --> 00:32:49,758
and whose DNA we probably
also carry in us today as well.
621
00:32:49,885 --> 00:32:52,344
It's one of these finds which
occasionally comes along
622
00:32:52,429 --> 00:32:55,806
which is really changing what
we know about our human story.
623
00:32:55,891 --> 00:32:59,977
SHATNER:
Experts agree that the discovery of the Dragon Man
624
00:33:00,062 --> 00:33:04,272
redefines our understanding
of humanity's past.
625
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,483
And there are some researchers
who believe
626
00:33:06,568 --> 00:33:08,610
that further investigation
of the skull
627
00:33:08,737 --> 00:33:11,071
will reveal shocking truths
628
00:33:11,156 --> 00:33:15,275
about this previously
unknown cousin of man.
629
00:33:15,369 --> 00:33:17,911
COLLINS:
There is every indication
630
00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:21,832
that the Dragon Man may well
have been not only large
631
00:33:21,917 --> 00:33:24,209
in size but also
of great height.
632
00:33:24,294 --> 00:33:27,963
Possibly as much as seven
to seven and a half feet tall.
633
00:33:28,090 --> 00:33:30,841
And if you want
to imagine them, just think
634
00:33:30,926 --> 00:33:34,219
that in the past
you'd have had the small guys
635
00:33:34,304 --> 00:33:36,722
that would have been
the Neanderthals,
636
00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:39,808
who were about five
to five and a half feet tall,
637
00:33:39,935 --> 00:33:42,185
you'd have had our own
modern human ancestors
638
00:33:42,271 --> 00:33:44,021
that were around six feet tall,
639
00:33:44,106 --> 00:33:46,356
and you'd have had
the much bigger,
640
00:33:46,442 --> 00:33:49,067
much stronger Dragon Man.
641
00:33:50,446 --> 00:33:53,697
With the discovery
of the Dragon Man skull,
642
00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:57,034
we might have
the first real evidence
643
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,578
that giants once
walked the Earth.
644
00:33:59,663 --> 00:34:01,955
SHATNER:
Is it possible
645
00:34:02,041 --> 00:34:05,208
that the Dragon Man was
actually a giant?
646
00:34:05,294 --> 00:34:08,003
Perhaps clues can be found
by examining
647
00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:10,047
the numerous historical accounts
of people claiming
648
00:34:10,132 --> 00:34:14,501
to have encountered
ancient giants.
649
00:34:14,595 --> 00:34:17,596
Giants are a stock character of
folklore throughout the world.
650
00:34:17,681 --> 00:34:20,766
For example,
the Bible clearly states
651
00:34:20,851 --> 00:34:22,684
that there were giants
on the Earth.
652
00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:26,313
HUGH NEWMAN:
In North America, the Native American cultures
653
00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:29,024
have many
of these giant stories.
654
00:34:29,151 --> 00:34:31,017
For example,
in Mi'kmaq tradition,
655
00:34:31,111 --> 00:34:35,489
we find stories of giants that
would hunt people and eat them.
656
00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:39,367
We have similar stories in
the Algonquian-speaking Natives
657
00:34:39,495 --> 00:34:41,745
of North America as well,
and traditions,
658
00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:43,872
even up to relatively
recent time,
659
00:34:43,999 --> 00:34:45,540
would honor
these ancient giants.
660
00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:47,542
And this is something
that's just prevalent
661
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:49,795
in different parts of the world.
662
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,755
SHATNER:
There are many skeptics
663
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,924
who write off tales of giants
as nothing more
664
00:34:54,009 --> 00:34:57,010
than exaggeration or fantasy.
665
00:34:57,096 --> 00:34:59,304
But there are others
who insist
666
00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:02,265
that giants were,
in fact, quite real.
667
00:35:02,351 --> 00:35:06,895
And as evidence, they point
to accounts of large human bones
668
00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:10,390
being discovered
throughout North America.
669
00:35:10,484 --> 00:35:13,276
NEWMAN:
During the mid-1800s,
670
00:35:13,362 --> 00:35:16,404
the Smithsonian Institution
had an edict
671
00:35:16,532 --> 00:35:18,398
where they would collect
all the different skeletons
672
00:35:18,492 --> 00:35:21,159
of Native American
cultures from mounds,
673
00:35:21,245 --> 00:35:25,205
from caves, from all over
the country, basically.
674
00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:29,292
And they started finding
these remarkable skeletons
675
00:35:29,378 --> 00:35:30,794
and discoveries that suggested
676
00:35:30,879 --> 00:35:32,838
there was a very advanced
race of giants
677
00:35:32,923 --> 00:35:34,756
living in North America.
678
00:35:34,883 --> 00:35:39,261
And even in their
Smithsonian annual reports
679
00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:41,138
in the late 1800s, specifically
680
00:35:41,223 --> 00:35:43,089
the fifth and the twelfth
annual reports,
681
00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:46,977
they documented between seven
and eight-foot-tall skeletons
682
00:35:47,062 --> 00:35:50,939
that their Smithsonian employees
actually dug up themselves.
683
00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:54,109
And yet, in 1910 onwards,
684
00:35:54,236 --> 00:35:58,363
when Ales Hrdlicka became
the director of the Smithsonian,
685
00:35:58,448 --> 00:36:00,240
he put a news report out saying
686
00:36:00,325 --> 00:36:03,618
giants are no more,
and tried to delete this idea
687
00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:06,830
that giants ever existed,
even though
688
00:36:06,915 --> 00:36:11,042
they discovered some themselves
in the late 1800s.
689
00:36:11,128 --> 00:36:14,004
And so,
there's a definite mystery here
690
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,047
when it comes
to trying to find evidence
691
00:36:16,133 --> 00:36:20,010
of these giant skeletons
of North America.
692
00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:22,795
COLLINS:
Hundreds, perhaps even thousands,
693
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:26,474
of these giant skeletons
have been unearthed,
694
00:36:26,602 --> 00:36:28,560
but the problem with this is
695
00:36:28,645 --> 00:36:31,229
that all of them
today have been lost.
696
00:36:31,315 --> 00:36:34,524
Everything that was inside
the Smithsonian Institute had
697
00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:37,861
to be given back,
or they were just destroyed.
698
00:36:37,946 --> 00:36:41,031
And so, the importance
of the discovery
699
00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:44,150
of the Dragon Man skull
is in the fact
700
00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:47,913
that this archaic human
that once existed
701
00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:51,333
in this region of China
has been brought back
702
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:56,880
into reality and is being
studied by the scientists today.
703
00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:58,256
You can discover
so much information
704
00:36:58,342 --> 00:36:59,883
from just a single bone.
705
00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:02,302
It opens up a whole world
of opportunity
706
00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:03,762
for what we can learn about
707
00:37:03,847 --> 00:37:06,640
who humans are
and where we came from.
708
00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:10,310
Is the Dragon Man really
the skull of an ancient giant?
709
00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:12,687
It seems hard to believe.
710
00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:14,731
But just imagine
what it would mean
711
00:37:14,816 --> 00:37:18,401
if we could actually prove that
giants once roamed the Earth.
712
00:37:18,487 --> 00:37:21,071
Something to ponder
713
00:37:21,156 --> 00:37:25,158
while we investigate yet another
collection of ancient bones.
714
00:37:25,244 --> 00:37:31,122
Bones that might have the power
to unleash a deadly curse.
715
00:37:37,214 --> 00:37:40,123
SHATNER: While making their way
across a snowy mountain range
716
00:37:40,217 --> 00:37:42,717
spanning the border
of Italy and Austria,
717
00:37:42,803 --> 00:37:46,680
two German hikers
make a gruesome discovery.
718
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:50,934
The body of a man,
half-frozen in ice.
719
00:37:52,104 --> 00:37:56,523
When scientists later remove the
skeleton from the icy ground,
720
00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:59,901
they come
to a shocking realization.
721
00:37:59,987 --> 00:38:03,146
The man,
who they nicknamed "Otzi,"
722
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,700
lived over 5,000 years ago.
723
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:11,371
PRYOR:
This is a really spectacular find,
724
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:13,164
because of the level
of preservation here.
725
00:38:13,292 --> 00:38:16,084
We have the full body preserved,
726
00:38:16,169 --> 00:38:18,161
including all of his skin,
727
00:38:18,255 --> 00:38:20,463
all of the internal organs,
and all of the possessions
728
00:38:20,549 --> 00:38:22,007
that he was carrying
at the time.
729
00:38:22,134 --> 00:38:24,834
And this, therefore,
is giving us unique insights
730
00:38:24,928 --> 00:38:26,803
into this individual
731
00:38:26,888 --> 00:38:29,514
and also what life
was like when he lived.
732
00:38:29,641 --> 00:38:32,600
SHATNER:
The recovery of Otzi's skeleton
733
00:38:32,686 --> 00:38:34,894
made headlines worldwide,
734
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:38,732
and his bones became
an object of intense fascination
735
00:38:38,817 --> 00:38:40,817
and scientific study.
736
00:38:40,902 --> 00:38:44,362
But then, unexpectedly,
737
00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:48,691
a series of bizarre deaths
took place in the years
738
00:38:48,785 --> 00:38:51,911
after Otzi's bones
were recovered.
739
00:38:51,997 --> 00:38:54,831
There's something very
mysterious going on here
740
00:38:54,916 --> 00:38:58,418
with this Otzi Iceman
since he was discovered.
741
00:38:58,503 --> 00:39:02,339
In the early '90s,
and going into the 2000s,
742
00:39:02,424 --> 00:39:04,716
people have died
who were involved
743
00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:08,544
in the discovery
or the presentation of Otzi.
744
00:39:08,638 --> 00:39:11,381
A gentleman called Rainer Henn
had the privilege
745
00:39:11,475 --> 00:39:13,183
of placing Otzi's body
746
00:39:13,268 --> 00:39:15,727
into a body bag
at the discovery.
747
00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:18,271
He died in a car crash.
748
00:39:18,357 --> 00:39:22,442
Kurt Fritz, who was involved
in the transportation of Otzi
749
00:39:22,527 --> 00:39:26,363
from one place to another,
died in an avalanche.
750
00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:29,074
Helmut Simon,
one of the discoverers of Otzi,
751
00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:31,868
had fallen 300 feet
to his death.
752
00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:34,237
Several other people
have died, as well.
753
00:39:34,331 --> 00:39:38,249
SHATNER:
All told, seven people connected
754
00:39:38,377 --> 00:39:41,294
to the discovery of Otzi died.
755
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:45,048
Were their untimely deaths
simply a coincidence?
756
00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:46,466
Or is it possible
757
00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:49,094
that the deaths were
actually the consequence
758
00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:53,181
of disturbing Otzi's bones,
which had remained untouched
759
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:55,266
for thousands of years?
760
00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:57,093
NEWMAN:
Some people believe
761
00:39:57,187 --> 00:39:59,429
there may even be
a curse associated
762
00:39:59,523 --> 00:40:02,607
with this man
buried in the ice.
763
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:06,319
Otzi had these
very strange tattoos,
764
00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:09,439
all these spirals
and different designs.
765
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,492
If he was some kind
of shaman or sorcerer,
766
00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:16,871
did he place a curse
over his body to protect him
767
00:40:16,957 --> 00:40:19,332
from future generations
digging him up?
768
00:40:19,418 --> 00:40:21,626
It's known
that it took four full days
769
00:40:21,753 --> 00:40:23,962
to excavate him from the ice.
770
00:40:24,089 --> 00:40:26,965
So there's an element
of desecration of a grave.
771
00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:31,177
THOMPSON:
There are many sort of curse stories and curse rumors
772
00:40:31,263 --> 00:40:32,846
that follow the realm
of archaeology,
773
00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:35,131
because archaeology
is often involving
774
00:40:35,225 --> 00:40:37,142
digging people out
of their graves.
775
00:40:37,269 --> 00:40:39,185
Is that disturbing their peace?
776
00:40:39,271 --> 00:40:41,521
Not allowing them
to rest in peace?
777
00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:46,484
What we can see is that this
does reflect a popular belief
778
00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:49,696
that maybe there is
something wrong
779
00:40:49,781 --> 00:40:52,824
with handling a body
in this mundane sense,
780
00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:55,326
as if it's an object to study.
781
00:40:55,454 --> 00:40:59,372
JEREMIAH:
When a body decomposes, what's left?
782
00:40:59,458 --> 00:41:01,207
You have the skeleton.
783
00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:06,546
If there's a real spiritual
essence that's within the body,
784
00:41:06,631 --> 00:41:09,215
it wouldn't fade away
with the body.
785
00:41:09,301 --> 00:41:11,667
It wouldn't fade away
with the flesh.
786
00:41:11,761 --> 00:41:14,804
It would remain
with the bones themselves.
787
00:41:14,890 --> 00:41:17,507
Obviously, life is finite.
788
00:41:17,601 --> 00:41:20,977
We're only gonna be here
for a certain amount of time.
789
00:41:21,062 --> 00:41:26,182
So the big question remains,
when we leave
790
00:41:26,276 --> 00:41:33,356
and people view our remains,
hopefully they honor us.
791
00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:36,534
Whether it's a sacred skull
or a holy relic
792
00:41:36,661 --> 00:41:40,121
or a cursed skeleton, bones
have a way of making us believe
793
00:41:40,207 --> 00:41:43,249
that after we die,
some part of us lives on.
794
00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:45,043
But is that really true,
795
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:48,371
or is it just
wishful thinking on our part?
796
00:41:48,465 --> 00:41:52,375
Well, that my friends,
is a fascinating question,
797
00:41:52,469 --> 00:41:55,545
but it's one that,
while we're still alive,
798
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,057
will remain... unexplained.
799
00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,184
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