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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,443 --> 00:00:11,253 This is the story of the rise of an idea 2 00:00:11,569 --> 00:00:13,585 that has come to dominate our society. 3 00:00:14,491 --> 00:00:16,753 It is the belief that the satisfaction of individual 4 00:00:16,958 --> 00:00:20,074 feelings and desires is our highest priority. 5 00:00:20,970 --> 00:00:25,054 Today we are going to tell you how to get whatever you want. 6 00:00:25,518 --> 00:00:27,974 I wanted to live a different life that was not available for me 7 00:00:28,179 --> 00:00:29,721 in the image I was born. 8 00:00:30,198 --> 00:00:32,817 Well, I'm here, look at me, notice me! 9 00:00:33,083 --> 00:00:35,676 Previous episodes have shown that this rise of the self 10 00:00:35,676 --> 00:00:38,553 was fostered and promoted by business. 11 00:00:39,273 --> 00:00:42,769 They had used the ideas of Sigmund Freud to develop techniques 12 00:00:43,055 --> 00:00:45,443 to read the inner desires of individuals 13 00:00:45,902 --> 00:00:48,037 and then fulfill them with products. 14 00:00:50,982 --> 00:00:54,967 This final episode is about how that idea took over politics. 15 00:00:56,164 --> 00:00:58,966 It tells the story of how politicians on the left 16 00:00:59,389 --> 00:01:01,060 in both America and Britain, 17 00:01:01,381 --> 00:01:03,960 turned to these techniques to regain power. 18 00:01:05,790 --> 00:01:07,733 They believed that they were creating a new 19 00:01:07,733 --> 00:01:09,742 and better form of democracy, 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,490 one that truly responded to the inner feelings of individuals. 21 00:01:15,555 --> 00:01:18,229 But what the politicians didn't realize was that 22 00:01:18,435 --> 00:01:20,969 the aim of those who had originally created these techniques 23 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:24,431 had not been to liberate the people but to develop a 24 00:01:24,657 --> 00:01:28,890 new way of controlling them in a new age of mass democracy. 25 00:01:29,412 --> 00:01:33,289 Century of the Self 26 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:37,962 Part Four: Eight People Sipping Wine in Kettering 27 00:01:40,791 --> 00:01:45,002 The roots of the story lie way back in the America of the 1920s with one man. 28 00:01:46,293 --> 00:01:49,745 He was called Edward Bernays, the nephew of Sigmund Freud. 29 00:01:50,654 --> 00:01:54,308 Bernays had been one of the inventors of the profession of public relations 30 00:01:54,998 --> 00:01:57,903 and he was fascinated by his uncle's theory that human behavior 31 00:01:58,152 --> 00:02:01,112 was driven by unconscious sexual and aggressive drives. 32 00:02:03,627 --> 00:02:06,498 Many of Bernays' clients were large American corporations 33 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:11,529 and he was the first person to show them how they could sell many more products 34 00:02:11,778 --> 00:02:13,812 if they link them through images and symbols 35 00:02:14,139 --> 00:02:17,497 to those unconscious desires that Freud had identified. 36 00:02:19,949 --> 00:02:22,608 Stuart Ewen - Historian of Public Relations - The strategy he offered them 37 00:02:23,078 --> 00:02:26,294 was that people could now look at the goods 38 00:02:26,582 --> 00:02:31,093 that emerging within the society and not merely view those goods 39 00:02:31,405 --> 00:02:35,547 as things that they needed in order to deal with some specific material want, 40 00:02:35,845 --> 00:02:40,952 but also as goods which will stroke and respond to deep emotional yearnings. 41 00:02:43,991 --> 00:02:48,148 You know, how this bar of soap or this bag of flour 42 00:02:48,148 --> 00:02:51,813 will make me a happier more successful more sexually appealing, 43 00:02:51,813 --> 00:02:53,778 less fearful person. 44 00:02:53,778 --> 00:02:56,030 Somebody to be admired rather than reviled. 45 00:02:57,721 --> 00:03:00,345 The powerful people in that world are those people 46 00:03:00,345 --> 00:03:04,032 who are capable of reading the public mind and giving the public 47 00:03:04,253 --> 00:03:06,548 what it wants in those terms. 48 00:03:08,518 --> 00:03:12,063 -And Bernays was at the heart of it? -Bernays was the guy who was 49 00:03:12,063 --> 00:03:16,817 the foremost articulator of the theories which were driving this new system. 50 00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:22,877 By the 1980s Bernays' ideas had come of age. 51 00:03:23,752 --> 00:03:25,785 A vast industry had grown up in America 52 00:03:26,004 --> 00:03:28,814 devoted to reading the inner desires of consumers. 53 00:03:29,267 --> 00:03:31,786 At its heart was the technique of the focus group. 54 00:03:33,194 --> 00:03:36,441 Previous episodes have shown how the focus group was invented by psychoanalysts 55 00:03:36,441 --> 00:03:39,943 employed by US corporations. 56 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:44,252 The aim was to allow consumers to express their inner feelings and needs 57 00:03:44,896 --> 00:03:47,052 just as patients did in psychoanalysis. 58 00:03:48,823 --> 00:03:52,314 The information was then used to promote and design new products 59 00:03:52,565 --> 00:03:54,493 which would fulfill those desires. 60 00:03:55,366 --> 00:03:58,630 And Edward Bernays who was now nearly a hundred years old 61 00:03:58,945 --> 00:04:02,362 was celebrated as the founding father of this marketing world. 62 00:04:04,504 --> 00:04:08,894 Hi doctor! Good to see you! Come on up over here! There you go! 63 00:04:09,998 --> 00:04:14,035 Doctor! Tell me again what the doctor is! What are we dealing with? 64 00:04:14,863 --> 00:04:18,913 -You're the father of public relations! -Well, what we're dealing with, really, is the concept 65 00:04:19,118 --> 00:04:23,273 that people will believe me more if you call me doctor! 66 00:04:28,857 --> 00:04:31,295 -So...That's a good idea!... 67 00:04:31,994 --> 00:04:34,135 And Bernays' ideas and techniques 68 00:04:34,335 --> 00:04:36,991 were also about to conquer Britain in the 1980s. 69 00:04:37,713 --> 00:04:39,945 Unlike America the ruling elites in Britain 70 00:04:40,209 --> 00:04:43,022 had always distrusted the idea of pandering to the masses. 71 00:04:45,026 --> 00:04:48,183 It was epitomized by the patrician elite who ran the BBC. 72 00:04:49,213 --> 00:04:53,401 Even as late as the 60s, the popular programs were referred to as 'ground bait'. 73 00:04:54,322 --> 00:04:58,310 Their real job was to lure the viewers into watching more serious programs 74 00:04:58,663 --> 00:05:00,573 the elite knew was good for them. 75 00:05:03,685 --> 00:05:05,900 And market research reflected this attitude. 76 00:05:06,746 --> 00:05:10,278 Individuals were observed and classified by market researchers 77 00:05:10,697 --> 00:05:16,390 according to their social class, from A through C2, D and E. 78 00:05:19,904 --> 00:05:25,655 -They might be C2... -Yes, I think...babies,...the way they carry their luggage... 79 00:05:25,655 --> 00:05:32,805 No taxi,...and all stuffed in the bags like that... I think the lady possibly set her own hair... 80 00:05:32,805 --> 00:05:36,526 -Yes!...Surely they're nicely dressed... -Yes, they are!... 81 00:05:36,761 --> 00:05:42,310 -Probably a skilled worker... -Yes! A skilled worker i think! 82 00:05:42,544 --> 00:05:50,012 -...we agree then...C2? -Yes! C2! We think so, yes!.. 83 00:05:51,153 --> 00:05:54,516 When people were asked their opinion about both products and politics 84 00:05:54,731 --> 00:05:58,635 they were selected by social class and asked only strictly factual questions 85 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:00,126 about what they thought. 86 00:06:00,935 --> 00:06:05,406 -On leaving this end participant, put this on one side, who do you think will win this coming election? -Ughh, Labour! -Labour? 87 00:06:05,986 --> 00:06:09,356 -..and tell me which you prefer?... 88 00:06:12,277 --> 00:06:16,926 - which party do you think you will you be voting for? -This time, the liberals... 89 00:06:16,926 --> 00:06:18,279 -You'll be voting for the liberals... 90 00:06:21,434 --> 00:06:23,957 -And who do you think will be second? - *//'#%^&... 91 00:06:24,672 --> 00:06:26,193 -This one! -Thank you! 92 00:06:26,859 --> 00:06:30,520 The idea that one might ask people what they themselves felt and desired 93 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,191 and then give it to them was seen as alien to the ruling elites 94 00:06:34,756 --> 00:06:38,615 and to challenge their belief that they knew was best for the public. 95 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:44,007 Michael Shields, M.D. National Opinion Polls, 1962: There's evidence that in other countries, in the United States for example, 96 00:06:44,220 --> 00:06:48,237 there were polls that have been used before the elections, to interpret the mood of the public, 97 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,754 and then you give people what they want to have, and that's what they want to have... 98 00:06:52,754 --> 00:06:56,369 But , again, this could be less or more democratic,... I don't know... 99 00:06:56,596 --> 00:07:00,691 This could be very dangerous ground I think, though, when polls are used in that way.. 100 00:07:01,892 --> 00:07:04,432 But then, in the economic crisis of the mid-70s 101 00:07:04,738 --> 00:07:07,363 British industries were forced to begin to pay attention 102 00:07:07,583 --> 00:07:09,456 to the inner feelings of consumers. 103 00:07:10,769 --> 00:07:13,806 As the recession deepened, consumer spending fell dramatically 104 00:07:14,647 --> 00:07:17,679 and the advertisers insisted that the only way for companies to survive 105 00:07:17,962 --> 00:07:20,249 was to make their advertising more effective. 106 00:07:21,071 --> 00:07:23,584 And to do this, they would have to delve into people's 107 00:07:23,584 --> 00:07:26,303 underlying psychological motives for purchasing. 108 00:07:27,740 --> 00:07:30,397 The advertising industry started to bring in Americans 109 00:07:30,397 --> 00:07:32,729 to run focus groups, with British housewives. 110 00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:41,164 Everyone is a unique person and even though you are a group of 10 today, 111 00:07:41,164 --> 00:07:46,916 we don't want a group opinion. We want to know your ideas, your thoughts, 112 00:07:46,916 --> 00:07:49,086 no matter how crazy it might be... 113 00:07:49,288 --> 00:07:54,960 Please let your imagination wild, because that's how very crazy things like instant coffee got born 114 00:07:55,289 --> 00:07:59,651 Now,...so, can we get somebody, ...this lady,.. to be a kitchen sink? 115 00:07:59,651 --> 00:08:05,555 And, kitchen sink, how do you fell, with these things that are being used, to clean you up? 116 00:08:05,555 --> 00:08:08,650 Well, I've got to feel clean, I've got to be kept clean... 117 00:08:09,416 --> 00:08:14,198 I feel that I should hate if I was all greasy, so I've got to be easy to clean... 118 00:08:15,259 --> 00:08:18,170 Ok...now the housewife...this lady... 119 00:08:18,170 --> 00:08:21,155 What would you use to clean your kitchen sink? 120 00:08:21,877 --> 00:08:30,344 Umm, it's getting harder... Of course a cloth to apply things on...and plenty of water... 121 00:08:30,987 --> 00:08:33,548 And how do you fell as you're doing this chore? 122 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,887 -Do you feel satisfied? -Well satisfied, when I have done it,... yes... 123 00:08:37,887 --> 00:08:40,329 I'm doing my duty, I feel it's a job well done.. 124 00:08:41,389 --> 00:08:44,073 The consumers were encouraged to play at being products 125 00:08:44,073 --> 00:08:46,511 from household cleaners to car seatbelts. 126 00:08:47,277 --> 00:08:50,777 The aim was not to talk rationally, but to act out and reveal 127 00:08:50,777 --> 00:08:53,313 the inner emotional relationship to products. 128 00:08:56,310 --> 00:09:02,547 -...which firmly and unmistakably underlines... 129 00:09:03,955 --> 00:09:07,628 And then, a politician emerged who also believed that people 130 00:09:07,628 --> 00:09:10,046 should be allowed to express themselves. 131 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:15,613 Instead of being controlled by the state the individual should become the central focus of society. 132 00:09:15,898 --> 00:09:21,620 Some socialists seem to believe that people should be numbers in a state computer... 133 00:09:22,097 --> 00:09:24,643 We believe they should be individuals.. 134 00:09:25,283 --> 00:09:30,120 We're all unequal...No one, thank Heavens, is quite like anyone else.. 135 00:09:30,365 --> 00:09:33,456 However, much, the socialists may pretend otherwise,... 136 00:09:34,068 --> 00:09:37,556 And we believe that everyone has the right to be unequal, 137 00:09:38,066 --> 00:09:43,225 But to us, every human being is equally important... 138 00:09:45,894 --> 00:09:51,604 A man's right to work as he will, to spend what he earns, to own property,... 139 00:09:51,913 --> 00:09:55,584 to have the state as servant and not as master.. 140 00:09:55,910 --> 00:10:03,121 They are the essence of a free economy...and on that freedom, all our other freedoms depend... 141 00:10:05,707 --> 00:10:09,412 Mrs. Thatcher's vision, was of a society in which the wants and desires 142 00:10:09,412 --> 00:10:13,232 of millions of individuals would be satisfied through the free market. 143 00:10:13,646 --> 00:10:17,168 This, she believed, would be the engine to regenerate Britain. 144 00:10:17,961 --> 00:10:21,832 And with her ascent to power, the advertising and marketing industries flourished. 145 00:10:22,701 --> 00:10:25,850 Their task was to find out what the British people really wanted 146 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:27,490 and then sell it to them. 147 00:10:28,746 --> 00:10:30,983 In this new climate, the focus group flourished, 148 00:10:31,868 --> 00:10:34,977 and those who ran them borrowed from the techniques of psychotherapy 149 00:10:35,218 --> 00:10:38,804 to delve ever deeper into people's feelings about products. 150 00:10:41,899 --> 00:10:46,712 We're trying to understand how people feel about brands, how they relate to brands, 151 00:10:46,948 --> 00:10:51,282 that is to see what the brand's personality is, as far as consumers are concerned.. 152 00:10:51,282 --> 00:10:56,151 There are a number of techniques which are very very helpful for getting to that, 153 00:10:56,151 --> 00:10:57,496 to their understanding,.. 154 00:10:57,891 --> 00:11:03,103 The consumer is given crayons, to doodle, to express their feelings, to go inside their own head 155 00:11:03,103 --> 00:11:05,840 to put out their feeling and to somehow get them onto paper... 156 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,152 And here's our ordinary drinkers, expressing their feelings about drinking Guinness 157 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:14,900 here you see a rich, very female aspect of Guinness, 158 00:11:15,141 --> 00:11:20,302 so if you were describing a woman, who somehow to you, had that character... 159 00:11:20,556 --> 00:11:24,873 -What sort of person is it? -Paullie A...She used to lay in bed, 160 00:11:25,081 --> 00:11:29,678 surrounded with magazines and chocolates, like a 50s starlet.. 161 00:11:30,325 --> 00:11:34,206 Out of this research the marketeers began to detect a new individualism. 162 00:11:34,767 --> 00:11:39,248 In particular among those who had voted conservative for the first time in 1979. 163 00:11:40,281 --> 00:11:42,888 They no longer wanted to be seen as part of social classes 164 00:11:43,501 --> 00:11:45,000 but to express themselves. 165 00:11:45,491 --> 00:11:48,457 And crucial to this were the products they chose to buy. 166 00:11:49,639 --> 00:11:53,380 Stephen Wells - Co-founder, Consumer Connection - We found that there was this trend towards 167 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:57,787 what we called individualism where people still wanted to be part of a crowd 168 00:11:57,787 --> 00:12:00,524 but to express themselves as individuals within it. 169 00:12:00,524 --> 00:12:05,038 To have their own personalities, to be, I suppose, their own man. 170 00:12:05,352 --> 00:12:08,470 I didn't want to be the same as anybody else.. 171 00:12:08,692 --> 00:12:12,955 I wanted it to be little bit different, little bit individual... 172 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,363 It's quite individual upstairs, it's not remarkable, but I think it's quite individual... 173 00:12:17,615 --> 00:12:23,678 It is expensive, it's Italian, it's good quality, quite different... 174 00:12:23,678 --> 00:12:26,987 We want to set our own standards, so no one else has got what we've got... 175 00:12:27,192 --> 00:12:30,817 we just didn't want to be the same as everybody else, we wanted to be different.. 176 00:12:32,026 --> 00:12:35,099 Business responded eagerly to this new individualism 177 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,880 and it soon became one of the main forces driving the growing consumer boom in Britain. 178 00:12:41,150 --> 00:12:45,722 Using the data from the focus groups, manufacturers created new ranges of products 179 00:12:45,957 --> 00:12:49,228 that allow people to express their individuality. 180 00:12:52,740 --> 00:12:54,846 Business also recategorized people. 181 00:12:55,253 --> 00:12:57,300 They were no longer divided by social class 182 00:12:57,581 --> 00:13:00,206 but by their inner psychological needs. 183 00:13:01,163 --> 00:13:05,712 John Banks - Chairman, Young and Rubicam - If the primary need is security and belonging we call the groups Mainstreamers, 184 00:13:05,712 --> 00:13:08,821 if it's status and the esteem of others then it's Aspirers, 185 00:13:08,821 --> 00:13:13,358 if it's control it's Succeeders, and if it's self-esteem it's Reformers. 186 00:13:14,147 --> 00:13:17,634 And this new marketing culture began to take over the institutions 187 00:13:17,634 --> 00:13:22,335 previously dominated by a patrician elite, particularly the world of journalism. 188 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:26,516 The assault was led by the profession of public relations. 189 00:13:27,724 --> 00:13:31,056 In the past PR had been seen as seedy and corrupt, 190 00:13:31,651 --> 00:13:35,529 but now it became a glamorous business, promoting products and celebrities. 191 00:13:38,930 --> 00:13:42,102 And one of the rising stars was another member of the Freud family, 192 00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:46,202 Matthew Freud, the son of the liberal MP (Member of Parliament) Clement. 193 00:13:47,017 --> 00:13:51,589 What Freud and other PRs realized was that they could use their celebrities 194 00:13:51,589 --> 00:13:56,522 as levers to infiltrate their advertising into the editorial content of newspapers. 195 00:13:57,350 --> 00:14:00,393 The newspapers were offered exclusive interviews with celebrities 196 00:14:00,837 --> 00:14:04,092 but only if they also agreed to mention products 197 00:14:04,092 --> 00:14:08,994 made by Freud's corporate clients, in terms dictated by the company. 198 00:14:09,626 --> 00:14:14,439 Matthew Wright - Tabloid Journalist 1993-2000 - What happened with Freuds was you effectively got some kind of product placement 199 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:20,498 or even product-- the manufacturers of products got some degree of control over how 200 00:14:20,769 --> 00:14:23,354 their products would appear in print. 201 00:14:23,747 --> 00:14:28,747 So if for example you wanted to write about Caprice's passion for stuffed crust pizza 202 00:14:28,747 --> 00:14:33,543 you would sign a contract which guaranteed that you would mention the firm Pizza Hut 203 00:14:33,795 --> 00:14:38,576 at least twice in certain positions in the introductory paragraph of the article 204 00:14:38,871 --> 00:14:43,892 and you would agree to run the Pizza Hut logo at such and such a size and such and such a place 205 00:14:44,106 --> 00:14:46,865 and of course that you would agree to run the enclosed pictures 206 00:14:46,865 --> 00:14:49,425 of Caprice eating her stuffed crust pizza. 207 00:14:49,661 --> 00:14:53,599 There was no choice about you would run this article in the press, 208 00:14:53,599 --> 00:14:59,261 as you were effectively told how to run the article in the press by Freuds. 209 00:14:59,796 --> 00:15:03,922 It's a rise of the corporate culture and the rise of business. 210 00:15:04,172 --> 00:15:08,328 To traditional journalists, this infiltration of advertising into the editorial pages 211 00:15:08,328 --> 00:15:11,218 was a corruption of their profession. 212 00:15:11,483 --> 00:15:15,707 But to Mrs. Thatcher's allies like Rupert Murdoch who owned The Sun and The Times, 213 00:15:15,707 --> 00:15:20,217 it was part of a democratic revolution against an arrogant elite 214 00:15:20,217 --> 00:15:23,283 who had for too long ignored the feelings of the masses. 215 00:15:24,207 --> 00:15:27,352 Rupert Murdoch - Owner, Times Newspapers (interview from that period) - They hate to see someone communicating with the masses. 216 00:15:27,352 --> 00:15:29,926 They feel that newspapers, the written word is not for the masses. 217 00:15:29,926 --> 00:15:32,655 That should be left to television or perhaps to nobody. 218 00:15:32,864 --> 00:15:36,893 I'm very proud of The Sun and The Sun was not represented tonight in your film 219 00:15:36,893 --> 00:15:39,736 you just took page three which everyone seems so fascinated with, 220 00:15:39,736 --> 00:15:42,690 what about page one, or page two, every other page of the paper. 221 00:15:42,690 --> 00:15:46,693 That was typical piece of slanting and elitism by the BBC, who after all 222 00:15:46,927 --> 00:15:51,366 in order to get viewers for this program, put on a very sexy episode of Star Trek 223 00:15:51,366 --> 00:15:53,799 which I was just watching out in the room there. 224 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:57,488 Interviewer: I don't think they put it on to get us viewers I think we are just lucky to follow them. 225 00:15:57,488 --> 00:16:00,662 Murdoch: They try to carry viewers into these programs, I know how it's done. 226 00:16:02,505 --> 00:16:06,540 By the late 80s Mrs. Thatcher and her allies in advertising and the media 227 00:16:07,113 --> 00:16:10,883 had brought the desires of the individual to the center of society. 228 00:16:12,832 --> 00:16:16,259 As last week's episode showed it was the same transformation 229 00:16:16,493 --> 00:16:19,427 that President Reagan had brought about in America. 230 00:16:20,174 --> 00:16:24,275 Both politicians had encouraged business to take over from government 231 00:16:24,275 --> 00:16:27,226 the role of fulfilling the needs of the people. 232 00:16:27,832 --> 00:16:32,214 In the process, consumers were encouraged to see the satisfaction of their desires 233 00:16:32,428 --> 00:16:34,698 as the overriding priority. 234 00:16:36,224 --> 00:16:40,149 To Thatcher and Reagan this was a new and better form of democracy. 235 00:16:44,042 --> 00:16:46,713 But to their opponents in the parties of the left, 236 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:51,249 they had summoned up the most selfish and greedy aspects of human nature. 237 00:16:53,271 --> 00:16:57,953 Robert Reich - Member of Clinton Cabinet 1993-1997 - Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher both embraced an economic philosophy 238 00:16:58,274 --> 00:17:01,178 that says the unit of judgment was not only the individual 239 00:17:01,380 --> 00:17:04,101 but it was the individual's personal satisfaction, 240 00:17:04,101 --> 00:17:08,921 the individual's own unique happiness and well being. 241 00:17:11,028 --> 00:17:17,280 It was in a sense the triumph of regarding individuals as purely emotional beings 242 00:17:18,041 --> 00:17:21,464 who have needs and wants and desires that need to be satisfied 243 00:17:21,464 --> 00:17:24,152 and can be satisfied unconsciously. 244 00:17:25,215 --> 00:17:30,455 It goes way back to the early part of the 20th century to Freud, 245 00:17:31,526 --> 00:17:34,983 to notions of the unconscious, 246 00:17:35,267 --> 00:17:40,309 the assumptions that in terms of our rational minds we are little corks 247 00:17:40,579 --> 00:17:45,498 bobbing around on this great sea of hopes and fears and desires 248 00:17:45,748 --> 00:17:50,017 of which we are only thinly aware and that the world of a marketer, 249 00:17:50,921 --> 00:17:54,782 the role of somebody selling something, including a politician 250 00:17:55,292 --> 00:18:00,872 is to appeal to this great swamp of desire, of unconscious desire. 251 00:18:05,215 --> 00:18:07,488 The left believed the opposite. 252 00:18:08,122 --> 00:18:10,276 That the way to create a better society, 253 00:18:10,497 --> 00:18:13,247 was not to treat people as emotional isolated individuals, 254 00:18:14,152 --> 00:18:18,067 but to persuade them to realize that they had common interests with others. 255 00:18:18,592 --> 00:18:22,454 To help them rise above their individual feelings and fears. 256 00:18:23,547 --> 00:18:33,372 President Roosevelt - 1933 Let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. 257 00:18:33,658 --> 00:18:36,827 Nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror 258 00:18:37,209 --> 00:18:42,561 which paralyzes needed efforts, to convert retreat into advance. 259 00:18:44,049 --> 00:18:48,013 This idea had flourished in America in the depression of the 1930s. 260 00:18:49,012 --> 00:18:52,282 President Roosevelt faced with the chaos caused by the Wall Street crash 261 00:18:52,952 --> 00:18:55,678 encouraged Americans to join together in trade's unions, 262 00:18:56,798 --> 00:19:00,082 to set up consumer groups, and to pay for a welfare system 263 00:19:00,462 --> 00:19:02,379 for those trapped in poverty. 264 00:19:03,188 --> 00:19:05,876 His aim was to create a collective awareness 265 00:19:06,143 --> 00:19:09,780 which would become a powerful weapon against the unfettered power of capitalism 266 00:19:10,188 --> 00:19:12,052 which had caused the crisis. 267 00:19:13,174 --> 00:19:16,885 That idea had driven the democratic party for 50 years. 268 00:19:17,656 --> 00:19:22,252 But now, Roosevelt's inheritors railed vainly against the effects of the self-interest 269 00:19:22,627 --> 00:19:24,804 encouraged by President Reagan. 270 00:19:27,081 --> 00:19:32,973 Mario Cuomo - Democratic Party Convention 1984 - There is despair Mr. President in the faces that you don't see. 271 00:19:33,211 --> 00:19:37,988 Maybe Mr. President if you stop in at a shelter in Chicago 272 00:19:38,909 --> 00:19:41,049 and spoke to the homeless there, 273 00:19:42,261 --> 00:19:48,022 Maybe Mr. President, if you asked the woman who had been denied the help she needed 274 00:19:48,447 --> 00:19:52,471 to feed her children because you said you needed the money for a tax break 275 00:19:52,471 --> 00:19:56,225 for a millionaire, or for a missile we couldn't afford to use. 276 00:19:58,253 --> 00:20:00,792 Mario Cuomo - Governor, New York 1982-95 - The worst thing Ronald Reagan did 277 00:20:01,020 --> 00:20:03,491 was to make the denial of compassion respectable. 278 00:20:03,299 --> 00:20:06,125 He said you've worked hard, you've made your money, 279 00:20:06,125 --> 00:20:12,287 you shouldn't have to feel guilty about refusing to throw it away on people 280 00:20:12,488 --> 00:20:16,138 who choose to be homeless and who choose not to work. 281 00:20:16,380 --> 00:20:17,491 That's what he said. 282 00:20:17,692 --> 00:20:22,146 He said it with an elegance and kind of a benign aspect 283 00:20:22,460 --> 00:20:24,571 that disguised its harshness. 284 00:20:25,710 --> 00:20:28,796 -You think we can do anything about it? -Well, why not? 285 00:20:28,796 --> 00:20:31,820 -If we can work together now to look after the lives of the people, here.. 286 00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:34,489 I don't see how we couldn't work together afterwards to clean up the mess 287 00:20:34,762 --> 00:20:37,771 and help build a better world in which these things can't possibly happen.. 288 00:20:37,771 --> 00:20:40,619 The qualities we've learned from comradeship and common suffering, 289 00:20:40,872 --> 00:20:43,509 are not to be wasted after this war... 290 00:20:43,509 --> 00:20:46,978 It's out of experience, like ours, that a better world will be built 291 00:20:49,188 --> 00:20:53,172 That same idea - marshalling the collective force of the masses 292 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:56,043 to challenge the entrenched power of wealth and business 293 00:20:56,043 --> 00:20:59,405 had also led the labor party to power in Britain after the war. 294 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:06,266 But in the 80s, labor like the democrats in America lost election after election 295 00:21:06,505 --> 00:21:10,224 as millions who had once voted for them switched their allegiance 296 00:21:10,224 --> 00:21:12,205 to the conservatives. 297 00:21:14,431 --> 00:21:18,300 There it is, going blue just about everywhere, sweeping the country... 298 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:25,572 For they are the party of yesterday...and tomorrow is ours... 299 00:21:26,748 --> 00:21:29,679 In the face of this, a growing number in the labor party 300 00:21:29,911 --> 00:21:32,600 became convinced that if they were ever going to regain power 301 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,756 labor would have to come to terms with the new individualism. 302 00:21:37,213 --> 00:21:40,317 One of them was an advertising executive called Phillip Gould 303 00:21:40,853 --> 00:21:42,712 who had been a life long labor supporter. 304 00:21:44,177 --> 00:21:47,239 Gould believed that labor's leadership had become corrupted 305 00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:51,464 by the same patrician arrogance that dominated all of Britain's institutions. 306 00:21:52,083 --> 00:21:56,353 They denigrated and disapproved of the new aspirations of working class voters. 307 00:21:57,620 --> 00:22:00,916 Philip Gould - Strategy Advisor to the Labor Party 1985-present day - Labor stopped listening to these people. 308 00:22:00,916 --> 00:22:05,509 And I remember the best example of this was after the election of 1983 309 00:22:05,509 --> 00:22:08,056 which was the election above all 310 00:22:08,277 --> 00:22:11,164 where the people's voices were just not heard. 311 00:22:11,604 --> 00:22:16,232 And I had dinner with a leading labor party figure 312 00:22:16,554 --> 00:22:20,715 who had been heavily involved in the defeat and his wife said 313 00:22:20,977 --> 00:22:26,321 'God these working class people we give them an education 314 00:22:26,321 --> 00:22:28,700 and give them chances in life and what do they do they read The Sun 315 00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:30,546 and they just don't vote for us.' 316 00:22:30,752 --> 00:22:36,103 And there was such a gap between these people just trying to make better lives 317 00:22:36,344 --> 00:22:41,497 for themselves and the kind of elitism of the labor party 318 00:22:41,497 --> 00:22:45,684 there was just this chasm that had to be filled. 319 00:22:46,699 --> 00:22:51,876 Gould became part of a small group of modernizers centered around Peter Mandelson. 320 00:22:51,876 --> 00:22:55,056 Their aim was to reconnect labor with the lost voters. 321 00:22:56,854 --> 00:23:00,637 To do this, Gould turned to the technique that he knew well from his work 322 00:23:00,637 --> 00:23:03,111 in advertising - the focus group. 323 00:23:04,219 --> 00:23:07,453 Gould commissioned focus groups in suburban areas across the country 324 00:23:07,765 --> 00:23:10,578 with small groups of voters who had switched to Mrs. Thatcher. 325 00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:15,427 People were encouraged not to talk rationally about policies 326 00:23:15,845 --> 00:23:18,169 but to express their underlying feelings. 327 00:23:19,563 --> 00:23:23,280 And what Gould discovered was a fundamental shift in people's relationship 328 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,693 to politics. 329 00:23:24,975 --> 00:23:28,238 They no longer saw themselves as part of any group but 330 00:23:28,958 --> 00:23:33,924 as individuals who could demand things from politicians in return for paying taxes. 331 00:23:35,148 --> 00:23:38,340 Just as business had taught them to do, as consumers. 332 00:23:40,672 --> 00:23:44,957 Philip Gould - Strategy Advisor to the Labor Party 1985-present day - And I found that people had become consumers, 333 00:23:45,174 --> 00:23:48,535 you know people wanted to have politics and life on their own terms. 334 00:23:48,535 --> 00:23:51,585 I mean not just in politics but in all aspects of life too. 335 00:23:51,846 --> 00:23:57,034 People see themselves as they are, as autonomous powerful individuals 336 00:23:57,353 --> 00:24:01,180 who are entitled to be respected, who are entitled to have the best 337 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:08,627 not just in Tescoes and whatever, but the best in terms of health and education too. 338 00:24:09,724 --> 00:24:12,602 All this was about getting the labor party to understand 339 00:24:13,771 --> 00:24:16,383 that people really really really had changed 340 00:24:16,699 --> 00:24:19,948 and unless the labor party changed it would not win. 341 00:24:20,650 --> 00:24:23,646 Philip Gould now set out to try and persuade the labor party 342 00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:28,463 they would have to make concessions to what he called the new aspirational classes. 343 00:24:29,249 --> 00:24:31,413 He was going to face implacable opposition. 344 00:24:32,849 --> 00:24:36,959 In the run up to the 1992 election, Gould argued that the only way to win 345 00:24:37,341 --> 00:24:40,503 was for labor not to put up (raise) taxes. 346 00:24:40,898 --> 00:24:43,791 But the Shadow Chancellor John Smith angrily refused. 347 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:46,466 Labor would stick to its fundamental policies. 348 00:24:46,944 --> 00:24:49,602 They would fight the election with the promise of tax increases 349 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,822 to create a fairer society. 350 00:24:54,340 --> 00:24:57,509 And as the campaign began it seemed as if Philip Gould was wrong. 351 00:24:58,842 --> 00:25:01,776 The traditional polls consistently showed labor ahead 352 00:25:02,023 --> 00:25:05,121 despite the conservative campaign message that labor government 353 00:25:05,367 --> 00:25:06,687 would put up (raise) taxes. 354 00:25:11,307 --> 00:25:14,812 Even the conservatives' oldest allies in the press became convinced 355 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,774 that by harping on about tax, the conservatives were cutting their own throats. 356 00:25:19,761 --> 00:25:23,328 The way of the Tories must be that they're not at the moment conveying 357 00:25:23,547 --> 00:25:25,886 a sense of grip in being at control 358 00:25:26,152 --> 00:25:29,374 and unless they can do better than that, I think they're going to lose... 359 00:25:29,374 --> 00:25:33,368 The other thing is that they still say they are going to go on and on 360 00:25:33,622 --> 00:25:39,107 with this one message of tax and I think, in part, the difficulty this morning 361 00:25:39,326 --> 00:25:43,464 was that you had a whole lot of people who'd been going to the same press conferences 362 00:25:43,705 --> 00:25:48,608 for 7 days, had virtually the same message, and they're getting bored 363 00:25:48,889 --> 00:25:50,967 and hitting back on him. 364 00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:55,698 I think the media sensed the big story coming, in the Tories being defeated... 365 00:25:57,027 --> 00:26:01,421 And the labor party too, was convinced it would win and finally return to power. 366 00:26:01,982 --> 00:26:08,326 It's now time to meet the men and women who will form the next government 367 00:26:14,146 --> 00:26:21,000 And now , it's time, time for the new prime-minister, Neil Kennet 368 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:25,318 Those running labor's campaign believed that by modern presentation 369 00:26:25,716 --> 00:26:30,427 they would attract back the voters yet keep the old policies. 370 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:35,220 But Philip Gould was convinced that labor were going to lose. 371 00:26:36,107 --> 00:26:38,663 Through his focus groups, he knew that the very people 372 00:26:38,891 --> 00:26:41,813 that were telling the traditional pollsters they would vote labor 373 00:26:42,141 --> 00:26:45,690 were in reality preparing to vote conservative out of self-interest 374 00:26:46,954 --> 00:26:48,628 but they were too embarrassed to admit it. 375 00:26:51,624 --> 00:26:53,451 And John Major also knew this 376 00:26:54,086 --> 00:26:57,128 because his focus groups were telling him the same thing. 377 00:27:00,858 --> 00:27:04,083 -Why aren't you making a poll which puts Labour 5 points ahead? 378 00:27:04,094 --> 00:27:07,056 I shouldn't worry about that. It's the feel good on the streets that matters.. 379 00:27:07,538 --> 00:27:10,604 -Is it feeling good on the streets? -It is feeling good on the streets...yes.. 380 00:27:10,881 --> 00:27:13,666 It has been felling surprisingly good on the streets for some time... 381 00:27:14,317 --> 00:27:18,018 Quite surprisingly...quite out of line...with opinion polls.. 382 00:27:18,681 --> 00:27:22,175 don't ask me to expect it, because it feels right... 383 00:27:22,590 --> 00:27:25,417 Now, let's sit down, we're ready to go!... 384 00:27:27,382 --> 00:27:31,239 John Major's victory in 1992, was a disaster for the labor party. 385 00:27:33,384 --> 00:27:36,834 The small group of reformers centered around Peter Mandelson and Philip Gould 386 00:27:37,164 --> 00:27:39,855 were convinced that the only way for the party to survive 387 00:27:40,069 --> 00:27:42,255 was to change its basic policies. 388 00:27:43,059 --> 00:27:46,864 But their ideas were rejected by John Smith who had now become leader. 389 00:27:48,387 --> 00:27:51,602 Philip Gould left Britain to go to work for the campaign to elect 390 00:27:51,819 --> 00:27:53,913 Bill Clinton President in America. 391 00:27:54,926 --> 00:27:57,943 Philip Gould - Strategy Advisor to the Labor Party 1985-present day - The 1992 election, during and afterward 392 00:27:58,153 --> 00:28:02,593 people felt under great strain and really did feel demoralized and dejected 393 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:06,534 and to from this to the Clinton campaign was an extraordinary experience 394 00:28:06,739 --> 00:28:12,489 because here suddenly I found articulated many of the ideas I had 395 00:28:12,696 --> 00:28:17,304 but not fully myself been able to encapsulate or to articulate. 396 00:28:17,812 --> 00:28:20,981 Do you want a president who will restore the middle class, 397 00:28:21,387 --> 00:28:25,155 reclaim the future for the middle class and restore the American dream? 398 00:28:25,629 --> 00:28:28,857 Vote for Bill Clinton and you have surely sent the signal to the country 399 00:28:29,078 --> 00:28:31,560 that we are coming, together!... 400 00:28:32,072 --> 00:28:35,327 What Gould discovered was that like the labor party, the democrats 401 00:28:35,327 --> 00:28:37,907 had also been doing focus groups with swing voters. 402 00:28:38,532 --> 00:28:42,097 The difference was that Bill Clinton had decided to tailor his policies 403 00:28:42,358 --> 00:28:44,437 to fit with these voters desires. 404 00:28:45,201 --> 00:28:48,926 Above all, with their ferocious belief that they should only pay tax 405 00:28:48,926 --> 00:28:52,894 for things that benefitted them, not for the welfare of others. 406 00:28:54,468 --> 00:28:57,988 I have no idea what percentage of my tax-dollars go to welfare, but, 407 00:28:58,251 --> 00:29:03,481 even if it's a minuscule percentage, even if it's a core percent, 408 00:29:03,802 --> 00:29:08,077 it's still too much...for people that are receiving these benefits 409 00:29:08,077 --> 00:29:10,516 that are basically non-productive... 410 00:29:11,206 --> 00:29:14,735 The Clinton team decided that to win they had to promise tax cuts 411 00:29:14,956 --> 00:29:17,253 for these suburban voters. 412 00:29:17,491 --> 00:29:20,534 And they also used the focus groups throughout the campaign 413 00:29:20,534 --> 00:29:23,521 to check every appearance, speech and policy 414 00:29:23,521 --> 00:29:25,672 with them for their approval. 415 00:29:26,317 --> 00:29:30,127 What Clinton called the forgotten middle class became central figures 416 00:29:30,382 --> 00:29:32,456 in a new type of reactive politics. 417 00:29:35,103 --> 00:29:37,608 Robert Reich - Member of Clinton Cabinet 1993-1997 - Candidates for the presidency of the United States 418 00:29:37,608 --> 00:29:41,878 has been pre-packaged and designed for many many years. 419 00:29:42,111 --> 00:29:49,378 What was new, was an attempt to use very sophisticated or pseudo-sophisticated 420 00:29:49,588 --> 00:29:52,974 techniques to plum the public psychology to find out precisely 421 00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:57,850 what the desires of the individuals were and then to come up with 422 00:29:58,141 --> 00:30:04,298 a candidate and a platform and images and words that exactly responded 423 00:30:04,522 --> 00:30:05,598 to those deep desires. 424 00:30:06,035 --> 00:30:08,688 This was packaging at a new level. 425 00:30:08,988 --> 00:30:11,896 This was polling at an extreme. 426 00:30:12,698 --> 00:30:14,580 I'm not gonna raise taxes on the middle class! 427 00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:16,427 ...and the middle class needs a break... 428 00:30:16,725 --> 00:30:19,382 Government is in the way... 429 00:30:19,646 --> 00:30:23,308 It's taking more of your money and giving you less in return... 430 00:30:24,554 --> 00:30:29,441 In the name of the hard-working Americans who make up our forgotten middle class 431 00:30:30,116 --> 00:30:34,873 I proudly accept your nomination for president of the United States... 432 00:30:35,175 --> 00:30:38,630 Stay focused! Talk about things that matter to people!...You know? 433 00:30:39,495 --> 00:30:42,210 It's the economy, stupid!.. OK?... 434 00:30:43,289 --> 00:30:46,888 But Clinton's campaign team led by James Carville and George Stephanopoulos 435 00:30:47,151 --> 00:30:49,942 did not believe that they were capitulating to the selfish desires 436 00:30:49,942 --> 00:30:51,726 of the middle classes. 437 00:30:52,097 --> 00:30:55,212 Tax cuts were the price they had to pay to regain power. 438 00:30:56,201 --> 00:30:59,944 But once in power they would still fulfill traditional democratic policies 439 00:31:00,695 --> 00:31:03,713 and help the poor who had been neglected under Reagan, 440 00:31:04,086 --> 00:31:06,387 above all with the reform of health care. 441 00:31:07,697 --> 00:31:10,929 They would pay for the tax cuts by cutting defense spending 442 00:31:11,155 --> 00:31:13,438 and increasing taxes on the very rich. 443 00:31:14,126 --> 00:31:16,859 In this way, they believed they were forging a coalition 444 00:31:17,118 --> 00:31:20,918 of the new and the old voters both of whom, could be satisfied. 445 00:31:21,636 --> 00:31:25,732 Probably for the first time in a generation, tomorrow, we're gonna win... 446 00:31:25,732 --> 00:31:28,993 And that means that more people are going to have better jobs, 447 00:31:29,231 --> 00:31:32,371 people are going to pay a little less for healthcare, get better care, 448 00:31:32,633 --> 00:31:35,711 and more kids are going to go to better schools... 449 00:31:36,216 --> 00:31:38,108 Umm,...So,... thanks... 450 00:31:42,842 --> 00:31:45,573 But the Democrats' optimism was to be short-lived. 451 00:31:47,142 --> 00:31:50,972 In November 1992, Clinton was triumphantly elected President. 452 00:31:51,838 --> 00:31:55,080 But within weeks, his administration discovered that the budgets deficit 453 00:31:55,357 --> 00:31:57,697 was far greater than they had anticipated. 454 00:31:59,202 --> 00:32:01,948 At a meeting in the White House, in January 1993 455 00:32:02,323 --> 00:32:05,169 the head of the Federal Reserve told them that the deficit 456 00:32:05,169 --> 00:32:07,530 was nearly 300 Billion dollars. 457 00:32:08,269 --> 00:32:11,438 There was no way they could borrow more without panicking the markets 458 00:32:11,642 --> 00:32:13,217 and causing a crisis. 459 00:32:13,875 --> 00:32:17,591 The only way to pay for the proposed tax cuts, would be to cut 460 00:32:17,910 --> 00:32:21,155 government spending not just in defense but on welfare. 461 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:28,248 Clinton was faced with a choice between the old politics and the new 462 00:32:28,624 --> 00:32:30,611 and he chose the old. 463 00:32:31,191 --> 00:32:34,320 The tax cuts were dropped and he tried to inspire the country 464 00:32:34,612 --> 00:32:37,501 with the old democratic ideal of government spending 465 00:32:37,796 --> 00:32:40,158 to help the poor and disadvantaged. 466 00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:44,268 Tonight I want to talk with you about what government can do, 467 00:32:44,504 --> 00:32:48,382 because i believe the government must do more to put people to work now 468 00:32:48,627 --> 00:32:52,759 to create a half a million jobs, jobs to rebuild our highways and airports 469 00:32:53,003 --> 00:32:56,781 to renovate housing, to bring new life to rural communities and spread hope 470 00:32:57,007 --> 00:32:59,399 and opportunity among our nation's youth. 471 00:32:59,924 --> 00:33:05,198 -Healthcare reform sounds like a great idea to me! -Well, I know, but some of these details sure scare the heck out of me! 472 00:33:05,457 --> 00:33:07,421 -Like what? -Like... 473 00:33:07,629 --> 00:33:11,095 Robert Reich - Member of Clinton Cabinet 1993-1997 - At the start of the Clinton administration 474 00:33:11,095 --> 00:33:14,440 many of us, including I believe President Clinton himself 475 00:33:14,702 --> 00:33:16,345 reverted back to an older tradition, 476 00:33:16,586 --> 00:33:23,160 tried to lift the public to talk about genuine ideals beyond the individual. 477 00:33:23,428 --> 00:33:27,316 And that reformed agenda being, not only universal health care, and child care, 478 00:33:27,705 --> 00:33:32,802 and dealing with the widening inequalities in our society, and homelessness, 479 00:33:33,164 --> 00:33:37,903 many things that many citizens - particularly middle income citizens 480 00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:40,110 just didn't want to deal with. 481 00:33:40,821 --> 00:33:43,282 But the suburban voters who had been promised tax cuts 482 00:33:43,662 --> 00:33:45,666 were not inspired by Bill Clinton's vision. 483 00:33:46,348 --> 00:33:48,957 They felt betrayed and wanted revenge. 484 00:33:52,447 --> 00:33:56,615 Their opportunity came in 1994, with the congressional elections. 485 00:33:57,271 --> 00:34:00,608 The Republicans led by Newt Gingrich promised huge tax cuts 486 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,400 and to dismantle the welfare system. 487 00:34:04,232 --> 00:34:07,366 The voters who had defected to Clinton switched sides yet again 488 00:34:08,021 --> 00:34:11,434 and the Republicans won both houses of Congress in a landslide. 489 00:34:12,475 --> 00:34:15,836 Well, i think it's a tremendous vote in favor of a smaller government and 490 00:34:16,059 --> 00:34:19,684 lower taxes in a sense of a renewal of a Thatcher-Reagan tradition 491 00:34:20,155 --> 00:34:21,950 and that interest is pretty decisive... 492 00:34:22,474 --> 00:34:25,022 It means that the welfare state is going to be less hospitable 493 00:34:25,525 --> 00:34:28,826 for people who are not willing to take responsibility for their own situation 494 00:34:29,483 --> 00:34:30,319 no question about it... 495 00:34:30,678 --> 00:34:34,040 I think today is the beginning of the end of the welfare state... 496 00:34:35,522 --> 00:34:37,716 For Clinton it was a disaster. 497 00:34:38,282 --> 00:34:42,220 Faced with a hostile congress there was no way for him to get his reforms through. 498 00:34:42,797 --> 00:34:45,979 His personal popularity plummeted and it seemed certain 499 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,431 he would not be re-elected in two years time. 500 00:34:50,279 --> 00:34:52,466 In desperation and without telling his cabinet 501 00:34:52,729 --> 00:34:55,256 Clinton turned for help to one of America's most ruthless 502 00:34:55,256 --> 00:34:58,076 political strategists, Dick Morris. 503 00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:01,809 -What did he want you to do? -Save his butt... 504 00:35:03,264 --> 00:35:08,459 Dick Morris - Strategy Advisor to President Clinton 1994-1996 - Clinton was in serious trouble, he had lost the 94 election, 505 00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:12,464 he had lost control of Congress, and he hired me to come back help and save him. 506 00:35:12,753 --> 00:35:16,256 So he was basically asking me to perform roughly the same role as 507 00:35:16,498 --> 00:35:18,977 a life preserver would if you are drowning. 508 00:35:19,853 --> 00:35:22,404 What Morris told Clinton was that to win re-election 509 00:35:22,882 --> 00:35:26,070 he would have to transform the very nature of politics. 510 00:35:27,498 --> 00:35:31,637 The crucial swing voters in the suburbs now thought and behaved like consumers. 511 00:35:32,532 --> 00:35:35,979 The only way to win them back was to forget all ideology 512 00:35:36,228 --> 00:35:39,586 and instead turn politics into a form of consumer business. 513 00:35:40,977 --> 00:35:44,997 Clinton must try to identify their personal desires and whims 514 00:35:45,340 --> 00:35:46,990 and then promise to fulfill them. 515 00:35:47,741 --> 00:35:51,063 If he followed those consumer rules they would follow him. 516 00:35:52,825 --> 00:35:55,765 Dick Morris - Strategy Advisor to President Clinton 1994-1996 - I said that I felt the most important thing for him to do 517 00:35:56,345 --> 00:36:00,950 was to bring to the political system the same consumer rules philosophy 518 00:36:01,213 --> 00:36:03,716 that the business community has. 519 00:36:04,232 --> 00:36:09,152 Because I think politics needs to be as responsive to the whims and desires 520 00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,625 of the marketplace as business is. 521 00:36:12,029 --> 00:36:16,386 And it needs to be sensitive to the bottom line - profits or votes 522 00:36:16,776 --> 00:36:17,890 - as a business is. 523 00:36:18,338 --> 00:36:23,591 I think all of this involves really, a changed view of the voters 524 00:36:23,956 --> 00:36:27,545 so that instead of treating them as targets you treat them as owners. 525 00:36:27,941 --> 00:36:31,205 Instead of treating them as something that you can manipulate 526 00:36:31,528 --> 00:36:33,777 you treat them as something you need to learn from. 527 00:36:34,108 --> 00:36:37,003 And instead of feeling that you can stay in one place 528 00:36:37,342 --> 00:36:41,092 and you can manipulate the voters you need to learn what they want 529 00:36:41,501 --> 00:36:43,938 and move yourself to accommodate them. 530 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,515 To get inside the minds of the swing voters, 531 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:51,199 Morris brought lifestyle marketing into politics for the first time. 532 00:36:52,581 --> 00:36:55,504 He went to one of America's most prominent market research firms 533 00:36:55,729 --> 00:37:00,670 called Penn and Schoen and commissioned what they called a neuro-personality poll. 534 00:37:02,935 --> 00:37:05,565 It was a massive survey of hundreds of thousands of voters 535 00:37:06,419 --> 00:37:09,863 but the only political questions it asked were to find out if someone 536 00:37:10,109 --> 00:37:12,235 was a swing voter or not. 537 00:37:13,563 --> 00:37:16,424 All the other questions were intimate psychological ones 538 00:37:16,691 --> 00:37:21,579 designed to see whether swing voters fell into identifiable psychological types. 539 00:37:22,767 --> 00:37:25,765 Mark Penn - Market Researcher for President Clinton - 1995-2000 - Well we were asking people questions like 540 00:37:25,765 --> 00:37:27,928 do you think you're the life of the party? 541 00:37:27,928 --> 00:37:33,302 Do you think when you see things you like to have a list and organize them? 542 00:37:33,954 --> 00:37:40,535 Do you typically, like to plan things ahead or be more spontaneous? 543 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,997 Where do you like to go? What sports do you like to play? 544 00:37:45,423 --> 00:37:48,505 What would you do with your spouse on a romantic weekend? 545 00:37:49,163 --> 00:37:52,629 So we were asking people some very personal questions about their own lives 546 00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:56,369 to see were the kinds of people that were likely to change their vote 547 00:37:56,788 --> 00:38:04,864 also possessing a certain kind of personality traits and in fact they were. 548 00:38:06,725 --> 00:38:11,205 The neuro-personality poll allowed the Clinton team to segment swing voters 549 00:38:11,205 --> 00:38:13,193 into different lifestyle types. 550 00:38:13,471 --> 00:38:17,939 They were given names like Pools and Patios, or Caps and Gowns 551 00:38:17,939 --> 00:38:20,634 who were urban intellectuals living in university towns. 552 00:38:22,223 --> 00:38:25,630 From this, the team could identify ways in which they could make individuals 553 00:38:25,887 --> 00:38:28,528 feel more secure in their chosen lifestyles. 554 00:38:29,504 --> 00:38:31,711 Just as business had learned to do with products. 555 00:38:33,257 --> 00:38:35,397 Dick Morris called it small-bore politics. 556 00:38:36,092 --> 00:38:38,949 Tiny details of peoples personal lives and personal anxieties 557 00:38:39,208 --> 00:38:42,396 which politics never even thought about or noticed before 558 00:38:43,412 --> 00:38:46,201 but which now had become the key to winning power. 559 00:38:48,101 --> 00:38:54,746 Doug Schoen - Market Researcher for President Clinton - 1995-2000 - It was an America that focused on day to day practical concerns 560 00:38:54,746 --> 00:39:01,431 - should I wear seatbelts, should I stop smoking, should I wear a school uniform, 561 00:39:01,681 --> 00:39:03,789 is my neighborhood being protected... 562 00:39:04,185 --> 00:39:09,405 It was not so much a new individualism as the social order 563 00:39:09,671 --> 00:39:12,934 as we had known it had broken down so we got into people's heads, 564 00:39:13,169 --> 00:39:16,870 understood their psychology about lifestyle, about values, 565 00:39:17,156 --> 00:39:20,965 what they thought was important, what issues they wanted politicians 566 00:39:21,226 --> 00:39:22,952 and particularly the president to address. 567 00:39:23,181 --> 00:39:25,257 And these issues proved to be very very different 568 00:39:25,485 --> 00:39:27,390 from what the conventional wisdom had suggested. 569 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,982 As the election campaign began, Clinton revealed Morris's new approach 570 00:39:32,182 --> 00:39:33,996 to a shocked White House. 571 00:39:34,797 --> 00:39:36,930 All traditional policies were to be dropped. 572 00:39:37,232 --> 00:39:40,917 Instead he would concentrate exclusively on policies that targeted 573 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,946 the worries of swing voters. 574 00:39:43,416 --> 00:39:46,369 V-Chips would be fitted into televisions to prevent children 575 00:39:46,578 --> 00:39:51,248 from watching pornography and mobile phones would be fitted into school buses 576 00:39:51,496 --> 00:39:53,793 to make parents feel more secure. 577 00:39:54,905 --> 00:39:58,049 Dick Morris also persuaded the president to spend his leisure time 578 00:39:58,279 --> 00:40:00,796 in the same way as particular swing voters. 579 00:40:02,019 --> 00:40:06,081 He sent Clinton on a hunting holiday, dressed in exactly the Gore-Tex outfits 580 00:40:06,308 --> 00:40:08,871 the group called Big Sky Families liked. 581 00:40:09,734 --> 00:40:12,810 The aim was to reflect swing voters lifestyles back to them. 582 00:40:13,843 --> 00:40:16,762 The liberals in Clinton's cabinet hated this approach. 583 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:22,215 Robert Reich - Member of Clinton Cabinet 1993-1997 - I would say Dick why have a campaign if all the president is going to do 584 00:40:22,421 --> 00:40:27,279 is offer up all these little bite-sized miniature initiatives 585 00:40:27,533 --> 00:40:32,310 that appealed to people desires like consumers buying soap. 586 00:40:32,617 --> 00:40:36,421 V-Chips that you could put in your televisions so you'd make sure 587 00:40:36,642 --> 00:40:41,165 that your children could not have pornography and ... school uniforms. 588 00:40:41,481 --> 00:40:45,661 Why talk about them, they're so mundane and they're so tiny, 589 00:40:45,661 --> 00:40:49,599 and he would say if we don't do this we may not get re-elected. 590 00:40:50,564 --> 00:40:53,424 And I would say what's the point of getting re-elected if you have no mandate 591 00:40:53,733 --> 00:40:55,564 to do anything when you're re-elected 592 00:40:55,781 --> 00:40:59,005 and he'd say what's the point of having a mandate if you can't get re-elected? 593 00:41:00,081 --> 00:41:02,031 Isn't the ultimate goal getting re-elected? 594 00:41:04,633 --> 00:41:07,690 But Morris's new politics were an extraordinary success. 595 00:41:08,209 --> 00:41:10,866 Clinton's ratings among the swing voters began to soar 596 00:41:11,631 --> 00:41:16,018 and Dick Morris along with the marketeer Mark Penn, took effective charge 597 00:41:16,237 --> 00:41:17,849 of making White House policy. 598 00:41:18,128 --> 00:41:22,693 Mark Penn set up a huge call center in an office block in Denver 599 00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:26,663 and every night, hundreds of telephone operators called swing voters 600 00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:32,528 in suburbs across the country, to check with them every detail of policies 601 00:41:32,942 --> 00:41:35,038 Clinton was proposing. 602 00:41:35,903 --> 00:41:40,335 James Bennet - Washington correspondent, New York Times - The policy was made by a group of people manning telephones 603 00:41:40,584 --> 00:41:43,851 in Denver Colorado placing calls to voters in places like 604 00:41:44,057 --> 00:41:49,739 Westchester and Pasadena and asking them what they wanted from their government, 605 00:41:50,223 --> 00:41:53,701 and asking them very specifically about specific policies that 606 00:41:53,944 --> 00:41:55,462 Bill Clinton was considering. 607 00:41:55,691 --> 00:41:58,402 Would you be more likely to support him if he offered this particular 608 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,364 government service or if he offered that one. 609 00:42:01,665 --> 00:42:04,633 Those people told them what they thought, Mark Penn transmitted that 610 00:42:04,852 --> 00:42:07,258 to Bill Clinton and it came out of his mouth. 611 00:42:07,543 --> 00:42:11,744 So essentially it was suburbanite voters, suburban voters in the 90s 612 00:42:12,105 --> 00:42:17,572 were creating American domestic policy and some of its foreign policy as well. 613 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,929 -Really? -Yeah, Mark Penn was polling on questions like 614 00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:25,068 whether we should bomb in Bosnia, things like that. 615 00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:29,792 Morris also insisted that Clinton make a symbolic sacrifice of the old politics 616 00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:32,524 to convince the swing voters to trust him. 617 00:42:33,334 --> 00:42:38,057 In August 1996, Clinton signed a bill which ended the system of guaranteed help 618 00:42:38,335 --> 00:42:39,946 to poor and unemployed. 619 00:42:40,866 --> 00:42:45,163 Welfare would be cut back after two years in order to force people into work. 620 00:42:46,272 --> 00:42:49,644 The new system was called "Welfare to Work" and would he said 621 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,586 be a hand up not a hand out. 622 00:42:55,267 --> 00:42:58,083 It was the effective end of the guaranteed welfare system 623 00:42:58,321 --> 00:43:00,926 created by President Roosevelt 60 years before. 624 00:43:02,565 --> 00:43:05,948 For many in Clinton's cabinet it was also the end of the 625 00:43:05,948 --> 00:43:09,598 progressive political ideal that Roosevelt had represented. 626 00:43:10,586 --> 00:43:12,794 The belief that one used a position of leadership 627 00:43:13,037 --> 00:43:16,668 to persuade the voters to think and behave as social beings, 628 00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:19,490 not as self-interested individuals. 629 00:43:21,241 --> 00:43:24,518 Robert Reich - Member of Clinton Cabinet 1993-1997 - Dick Morris and the pollsters had won. 630 00:43:24,518 --> 00:43:30,025 And by that I mean the people who ultimately got to the president 631 00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:35,511 shaped the president's mind, were those who viewed the voters 632 00:43:35,770 --> 00:43:39,725 as just a collection of individual desires that had to be catered to 633 00:43:39,725 --> 00:43:40,841 and pandered to. 634 00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:44,168 It suggests that democracy is nothing more and should be nothing more 635 00:43:44,789 --> 00:43:52,856 than pandering to these un-thought about very primitive desires. 636 00:43:53,290 --> 00:43:56,666 Primitive in the sense that they are not even necessarily conscious, 637 00:43:57,260 --> 00:44:01,220 just what people want in terms of satisfying themselves. 638 00:44:05,041 --> 00:44:08,638 And the same triumph of the politics of the self was about 639 00:44:08,856 --> 00:44:10,371 to happen in Britain too. 640 00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:15,686 In 1994 Tony Blair had become the leader of the labor party 641 00:44:16,339 --> 00:44:19,949 and the reforming group centered around Peter Mandelson became all powerful. 642 00:44:22,763 --> 00:44:27,149 Almost every night Philip Gould ran focus groups with swing voters in the suburbs, 643 00:44:27,925 --> 00:44:30,125 but this time he was listened to. 644 00:44:30,388 --> 00:44:32,858 The desires and fears of the new aspirational classes 645 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,512 became the force shaping labor party policies. 646 00:44:37,889 --> 00:44:42,838 Philip Gould - New Labor Strategy Advisor Election Campaign 1997 - In that period I was talking to people who used to vote conservative 647 00:44:42,838 --> 00:44:45,901 and were considering voting labor and they want it understood 648 00:44:46,141 --> 00:44:50,061 that they are financially pressed and there are limits to the extent to which 649 00:44:50,263 --> 00:44:53,800 taxation can be improved, and they think crime is an issue that matters to them, 650 00:44:54,031 --> 00:44:59,820 and should be respected, they want welfare to go to people who deserve welfare 651 00:45:00,232 --> 00:45:02,216 not to people who do not. 652 00:45:02,669 --> 00:45:05,525 This was seen by many in the labor party as selfish. 653 00:45:05,854 --> 00:45:10,999 I never saw that it was selfish, I believed that Dad or Mom doing the best 654 00:45:11,216 --> 00:45:13,969 for their families was not selfish they're just doing the best for their families, 655 00:45:14,188 --> 00:45:15,291 that's what people do. 656 00:45:15,006 --> 00:45:18,193 I crack down on those who make life hell in their local neighborhoods 657 00:45:18,193 --> 00:45:19,803 through noise or disturbance 658 00:45:19,803 --> 00:45:22,617 Law and order is a Labour issue today! 659 00:45:25,019 --> 00:45:30,912 Derek Draper - Assistant to Peter Mandelson 1992-1995 - The philosophy of the campaign is let's concentrate on swing voters 660 00:45:31,114 --> 00:45:34,253 let's focus group them to find out what they want and what will appeal to them 661 00:45:34,465 --> 00:45:37,221 and let's just relentlessly push those things in the election. 662 00:45:39,331 --> 00:45:43,195 Something is happening to you!... 663 00:45:43,634 --> 00:45:46,213 After promising to put money in your pocket, 664 00:45:47,432 --> 00:45:51,271 the conservatives are quietly taking it away... 665 00:45:52,229 --> 00:45:57,605 Philip Gould was crucial, because he gave the 'raw material' if you like 666 00:45:58,114 --> 00:46:02,509 for these politicians to do this kind of politics, 667 00:46:03,197 --> 00:46:05,934 in that when he came up with stuff they'd follow it, 668 00:46:06,339 --> 00:46:08,241 pretty much without exception. 669 00:46:08,839 --> 00:46:12,747 Blair himself would pour over these sort of twelve page memos 670 00:46:13,389 --> 00:46:15,089 and say well this is what we must do. 671 00:46:16,134 --> 00:46:20,327 We want people to earn more, to consume the good things of life, 672 00:46:20,652 --> 00:46:22,195 we want people to pay lower taxes... 673 00:46:23,805 --> 00:46:27,774 Gordon Brown says a Labour government would hold the main tax-rates unchanged... 674 00:46:28,103 --> 00:46:31,307 The Labour government will not increase the tax.. 675 00:46:32,814 --> 00:46:35,969 I want to make it clear that I will not increase the basic rate of tax.. 676 00:46:36,510 --> 00:46:38,836 In fact, the Labour party does stand for Middle England... 677 00:46:39,118 --> 00:46:43,023 Those who'd asipre to do better, to get on in life and be ambitious 678 00:46:43,273 --> 00:46:45,511 for themselves and their families, will do better with Labour... 679 00:46:45,935 --> 00:46:49,294 Groups of eight people you know dinking wine and eating Cheerios, 680 00:46:49,574 --> 00:46:56,120 what they thought, determined effectively everything that the labor party did. 681 00:46:57,857 --> 00:47:00,890 And although those running the campaign would like to portray the new approach 682 00:47:00,890 --> 00:47:04,728 as their invention it was in fact copied from the Americans 683 00:47:05,577 --> 00:47:08,535 even down to the phrases that the American marketeers had tested 684 00:47:08,535 --> 00:47:10,355 on their swing voters. 685 00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:14,847 Doug Schoen - Market Researcher for President Clinton - 1995-2000 - Peter Mandelson and their team were in the United States watching what we did 686 00:47:15,095 --> 00:47:19,922 and copied almost verbatim our approach in their 1997 campaign. 687 00:47:20,135 --> 00:47:27,073 The benefit system should be about giving people a hand up, not just a hand out.. 688 00:47:28,041 --> 00:47:30,465 Mandelson is not a fool and if he's anything ... 689 00:47:30,693 --> 00:47:33,264 he saw something that worked and said why not do it. 690 00:47:33,549 --> 00:47:36,531 And I can remember reading their manifesto and say to myself: 691 00:47:37,203 --> 00:47:39,420 they just took it lock stock and barrel. 692 00:47:40,924 --> 00:47:43,629 You know on the one hand you're proud and on the other hand you're saying: 693 00:47:43,629 --> 00:47:44,780 son of a beach! 694 00:47:45,297 --> 00:47:49,486 And as in America, labor was forced to drop policies that would not 695 00:47:49,486 --> 00:47:51,108 directly benefit the swing voters, 696 00:47:51,466 --> 00:47:53,968 even if it meant sacrificing it's fundamental principles. 697 00:47:55,078 --> 00:47:56,942 The commitment to public control of industry 698 00:47:57,437 --> 00:48:02,145 which was enshrined as Clause Four of the party constitution was dropped. 699 00:48:03,087 --> 00:48:06,906 The aim of Clause Four had been to use the collective power of the people 700 00:48:07,188 --> 00:48:09,580 to challenge the unfettered greed of business. 701 00:48:10,312 --> 00:48:12,899 But now, Tony Blair was faced with crucial voters 702 00:48:13,201 --> 00:48:16,608 who no longer saw themselves as exploited by the free market. 703 00:48:17,625 --> 00:48:21,141 They saw themselves as individual consumers who were fulfilled 704 00:48:21,141 --> 00:48:24,251 and given identity by what business delivered them. 705 00:48:25,205 --> 00:48:27,894 The new Clause Four, promised not to control the free market 706 00:48:28,237 --> 00:48:29,676 but to let it flourish. 707 00:48:30,158 --> 00:48:35,301 Business is more powerful than government, it is quicker, it is more creative.. 708 00:48:35,641 --> 00:48:39,051 Business is the lifeblood of the country.. 709 00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:44,615 From this, come all the benefits that society needs...employment, investment... 710 00:48:44,845 --> 00:48:47,793 I think frankly there is only one party getting business right 711 00:48:47,793 --> 00:48:49,268 and that's new Labour 712 00:48:50,722 --> 00:48:54,448 Derek Draper - Assistant to Peter Mandelson 1992-1995 - What new labor did was suit people who exert power in society 713 00:48:54,448 --> 00:49:01,851 not through the political system or not through the democratic political system, 714 00:49:02,087 --> 00:49:06,847 so it's big business, and it suits interest, interest suits in the status quo 715 00:49:07,555 --> 00:49:12,864 those three things are what the labor party is supposed to be 716 00:49:13,576 --> 00:49:15,271 a counter-force to. 717 00:49:15,664 --> 00:49:20,182 What that means is big business get to carry on exerting their power 718 00:49:20,685 --> 00:49:23,325 behind the scenes getting their way 719 00:49:23,540 --> 00:49:25,285 because their no count of adding pressure 720 00:49:25,495 --> 00:49:28,154 because you know count of adding pressure is not going to come from 721 00:49:28,154 --> 00:49:29,914 eight people sipping wine in Kettering. 722 00:49:42,337 --> 00:49:45,162 But those who masterminded labor's victory in 1997 723 00:49:45,603 --> 00:49:49,483 saw it as a triumphant vindication of a new form of democracy. 724 00:49:50,545 --> 00:49:53,982 By understanding and fulfilling people's inner desires through the focus group 725 00:49:54,332 --> 00:49:58,944 they were giving power to individuals, not treating them as faceless groups 726 00:49:59,213 --> 00:50:02,152 who were told by politicians what was good for them. 727 00:50:04,775 --> 00:50:10,000 Philip Gould - New Labor Strategy Advisor Election Campaign 1997 - I don't see the focus group as some marketing tool 728 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,527 I see the focus group as a way of hearing what the people have to say. 729 00:50:14,948 --> 00:50:19,274 And I see the focus group as a way to a new form of politics. 730 00:50:20,845 --> 00:50:25,278 What the people give, the people can take away.. 731 00:50:25,619 --> 00:50:29,168 We are the servants, they are the masters now 732 00:50:30,832 --> 00:50:35,853 1997 was I think fundamentally important in that I think it is the end 733 00:50:36,151 --> 00:50:42,295 of elitist politics that has dominated Britain for so much 734 00:50:42,518 --> 00:50:44,777 of the last hundred years. 735 00:50:51,956 --> 00:50:57,011 In 1939 Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud's nephew created a vision 736 00:50:57,215 --> 00:51:00,140 of a future world in which the consumer was king. 737 00:51:02,814 --> 00:51:07,584 It was at the World's Fair in New York, and Bernays called it Democracity. 738 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,193 It was one of the earliest and most dramatic portrayals 739 00:51:11,409 --> 00:51:13,077 of a consumerist democracy. 740 00:51:13,988 --> 00:51:16,707 A society in which the needs and desires of individuals 741 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,943 were read and fulfilled by business in the free market. 742 00:51:22,327 --> 00:51:24,935 Stewart Ewen - Historian of Public Relations - The World's Fair created a spectacle 743 00:51:25,453 --> 00:51:28,093 in which all of these concerns were met and 744 00:51:28,346 --> 00:51:33,486 they met by Westinghouse and General Motors and the American Cash Register Company 745 00:51:33,814 --> 00:51:38,269 and company after company presented itself as the sort of centerpiece 746 00:51:38,516 --> 00:51:42,661 of a society in which human desire and human want and human anxiety 747 00:51:42,908 --> 00:51:46,813 would all be responded to and it would all be met purely through 748 00:51:47,051 --> 00:51:49,280 the free enterprise system. 749 00:51:49,853 --> 00:51:52,784 There was this sort of notion that the free market was something 750 00:51:53,346 --> 00:51:56,954 not guided by ideologies or by political power, 751 00:51:57,265 --> 00:52:00,484 it was something that was simply guided by the people's will. 752 00:52:02,224 --> 00:52:06,569 This was the model of democracy that both new labor and the American democrats 753 00:52:06,827 --> 00:52:09,515 had bought into in order to regain power. 754 00:52:10,973 --> 00:52:14,579 They had used techniques developed by business to read the desires of consumers 755 00:52:15,226 --> 00:52:19,930 and they had accepted Bernays' claim that this was a better form of democracy. 756 00:52:23,066 --> 00:52:27,747 But in reality the World's Fair had been an elaborate piece of propaganda 757 00:52:28,137 --> 00:52:32,481 designed by Bernays for his clients, the giant American corporations. 758 00:52:34,753 --> 00:52:38,807 Privately, Bernays did not believe that true democracy could ever work. 759 00:52:40,145 --> 00:52:44,590 He had been profoundly influenced in this by his uncle's theories of human nature. 760 00:52:45,958 --> 00:52:49,270 Freud believed that individuals were not driven by rational thought 761 00:52:49,586 --> 00:52:52,115 but by primitive unconscious desires and feelings. 762 00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:56,478 And Bernays believed that this meant it was too dangerous 763 00:52:56,850 --> 00:52:59,856 to let the masses ever have control over their own lives 764 00:53:00,853 --> 00:53:04,912 and consumerism was a way of giving people the illusion of control 765 00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:09,616 while allowing a responsible elite to continue managing society. 766 00:53:14,747 --> 00:53:17,635 Stewart Ewen - Historian of Public Relations - It's not that the people are in charge 767 00:53:17,635 --> 00:53:20,021 but that the people's desires are in charge. 768 00:53:20,667 --> 00:53:24,883 The people are not in charge the people exercise no decision-making power 769 00:53:25,104 --> 00:53:26,525 within this environment. 770 00:53:26,741 --> 00:53:33,040 So democracy is reduced from something which assumes an active citizenry 771 00:53:33,699 --> 00:53:39,167 to something which now increasingly is predicated on the idea of the public 772 00:53:39,375 --> 00:53:40,853 as passive consumers, 773 00:53:41,213 --> 00:53:44,149 the public as people who essentially what you are delivering them 774 00:53:44,573 --> 00:53:46,105 is doggy treats. 775 00:53:47,573 --> 00:53:51,246 The problem for new labor was that it believed the propaganda. 776 00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:55,545 They took at face value the idea promoted by business 777 00:53:56,076 --> 00:53:59,992 that the systems used to read the consumers mind could form the basis 778 00:54:00,216 --> 00:54:01,556 for a new type of democracy. 779 00:54:03,221 --> 00:54:06,480 Once in power new labor tried to govern through a new system 780 00:54:06,699 --> 00:54:09,297 that Philip Gould called 'continuous democracy'. 781 00:54:10,587 --> 00:54:12,916 But what worked for business in designing products 782 00:54:13,358 --> 00:54:16,250 led the labor government into a bewildering maze of 783 00:54:16,488 --> 00:54:18,643 contradictory whims and desires. 784 00:54:20,278 --> 00:54:22,607 For much of labor's first term the focus groups 785 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,124 said the railways were not a high priority and labors policies 786 00:54:26,324 --> 00:54:28,350 faithfully reflected this. 787 00:54:28,676 --> 00:54:32,263 But now those same groups are now blaming the government 788 00:54:32,471 --> 00:54:35,233 for not having invested more money sooner in the railways. 789 00:54:37,006 --> 00:54:40,098 Derek Draper - Assistant to Peter Mandelson 1992-1995 - The point about focus group politics is that 790 00:54:40,313 --> 00:54:43,198 there isn't one because people are contradictory and irrational 791 00:54:43,575 --> 00:54:47,601 and so you have a problem in terms of deciding what you are going to do 792 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,177 if all you do is listen to a mass of individual opinions 793 00:54:51,444 --> 00:54:54,251 that are forever fluctuating and don't really have any coherence 794 00:54:54,488 --> 00:54:56,484 and crucially are not set in context. 795 00:54:56,709 --> 00:54:59,764 So that's why people can say you know I want lower taxes 796 00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:01,709 and better public services. 797 00:55:01,968 --> 00:55:03,395 Well of course they do. 798 00:55:04,797 --> 00:55:08,389 You know you say do you want to pay more taxes to get better public services 799 00:55:08,707 --> 00:55:09,865 and people are less sure. 800 00:55:10,112 --> 00:55:13,282 They then don't believe that if they pay more taxes they will be spent 801 00:55:13,282 --> 00:55:15,054 on better public services. 802 00:55:15,264 --> 00:55:18,206 So you end up in this quagmire and the truth is the politicians have to say 803 00:55:18,206 --> 00:55:21,410 look this is what I believe, I believe you should pay slightly more taxes 804 00:55:21,786 --> 00:55:25,347 to make better public services and I pledge that I am competent enough 805 00:55:25,347 --> 00:55:29,193 to use that money wisely do you want now to vote for me yes or no. 806 00:55:29,711 --> 00:55:31,830 And that's what Blair has failed to do. 807 00:55:32,065 --> 00:55:34,675 Tony Blair turned around and tries to feed back to them what 808 00:55:34,675 --> 00:55:37,785 they already believe and give them what they believe is sort of 809 00:55:37,785 --> 00:55:43,267 an individual incoherent contradictory nonsense and that's all he has to offer. 810 00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:46,292 And then he wonders why people don't get him. 811 00:55:46,678 --> 00:55:48,854 It isn't that they don't get him it's that they're looking for someone 812 00:55:48,854 --> 00:55:51,427 to do something that they can't do themselves which is actually come up 813 00:55:51,660 --> 00:55:54,254 with a coherent political opinion that they might have faith in. 814 00:55:55,132 --> 00:55:57,097 New labor are faced with a dilemma. 815 00:55:57,879 --> 00:56:00,447 The system of consumer democracy they have embraced 816 00:56:00,775 --> 00:56:04,789 has trapped them into a series of short term and often contradictory policies. 817 00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:09,067 There are now growing demands that they fulfill a grander vision. 818 00:56:09,882 --> 00:56:12,652 That they use the power of government, to deal with the problems 819 00:56:12,874 --> 00:56:16,388 of growing inequality and the decaying social fabric of the country. 820 00:56:18,074 --> 00:56:21,240 But to do this they will have to appeal to the electorate 821 00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:23,858 to think outside their own self-interest. 822 00:56:24,654 --> 00:56:28,045 And this would mean challenging the now dominant Freudian view of human beings 823 00:56:28,617 --> 00:56:30,911 as selfish instinct driven individuals 824 00:56:32,037 --> 00:56:35,472 which is a concept of human beings that has been fostered and encouraged 825 00:56:35,813 --> 00:56:39,058 by business because it produces ideal consumers. 826 00:56:42,347 --> 00:56:46,577 Although we feel we are free, in reality we, like the politicians 827 00:56:46,846 --> 00:56:49,468 have become the slaves of our own desires. 828 00:56:51,988 --> 00:56:54,388 We have forgotten that we can be more than that, 829 00:56:55,234 --> 00:56:57,462 that there are other sides to human nature. 830 00:56:59,633 --> 00:57:05,550 Robert Reich - Member of Clinton Cabinet 1993-1997 - Fundamentally here, we have two different views of human nature and of democracy. 831 00:57:05,834 --> 00:57:10,471 You have the view that people are irrational 832 00:57:11,048 --> 00:57:16,552 that they are bundles of unconscious emotion, that comes directly out of Freud. 833 00:57:17,237 --> 00:57:21,701 And businesses are very able to respond to that, that's what they have honed 834 00:57:21,923 --> 00:57:24,775 their skills to and that's what marketing really is all about - 835 00:57:25,038 --> 00:57:27,758 what are the symbols the images the music, the words 836 00:57:27,991 --> 00:57:31,568 that will appeal to these unconscious feelings. 837 00:57:32,345 --> 00:57:35,506 Politics must be more than that. 838 00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:44,188 Politics and leadership are about engaging the public in a rational discussion 839 00:57:44,444 --> 00:57:46,600 and deliberation about what is best 840 00:57:47,799 --> 00:57:52,698 and treating people with respect in terms of their rational abilities 841 00:57:52,962 --> 00:57:54,802 to debate what is best. 842 00:57:55,206 --> 00:57:59,525 If it's not that, if it is Freudian if it is basically 843 00:58:00,071 --> 00:58:04,910 a matter of appealing to the same basic unconscious feelings that business 844 00:58:05,207 --> 00:58:07,206 appeals to then why not let business do it? 845 00:58:07,416 --> 00:58:09,554 Business can do it better, business knows how to do it. 846 00:58:09,896 --> 00:58:14,134 Business after all is in the business of responding to those feelings. 847 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:50,000 Time synch (+1.8s), spellcheck, and (some) edits by coyote 26December2011 848 00:58:51,000 --> 00:59:01,000 from version uploaded to Subscene.com 18October2010 by subsred 86699

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