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[Announcer] The
following program
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contains allegations
of sexual abuse
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that some viewers
may find disturbing.
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(photographers chatting)
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- [Narrator] Harvey
Weinstein sat atop Hollywood
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as one of the most
successful and respected
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movie producers in history.
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But beneath the money and
the fame was a monster,
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hiding a dark and
disturbing secret.
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- So hot, that
place, and so sexy.
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You just get crazy
thoughts there.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Narrator] The truth cannot
be hidden away forever,
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and in Hollywood,
when the movies end
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and the credits roll,
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the reality can be
even more terrifying
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than you could ever imagine.
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(dramatic music)
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- She's good, really good,
she's good, she's wonderful.
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- [Interviewer] She's
got real charisma
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and a presence about her.
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- She does, she certainly does.
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(dramatic music)
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(somber music)
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- People believe in you,
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and it's not been fair
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that you've used the power,
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the gift that you
have, you've turned
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it into such a
corruption to take
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advantage of other people.
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- I had created a
safeguard of how
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I could avoid those situations,
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and I never was in a hotel
room with him alone again.
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- You're meeting with a very
powerful guy in Hollywood
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that makes a lot of
actress's careers happen,
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so when he said to
go to the Peninsula,
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I just thought,
that's a bar, so fine.
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So we met at the bar there,
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and we talked for a few minutes,
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and then he didn't
really ask me,
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he just said, "We're going
upstairs to my room."
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And I didn't really
know how to take that.
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I'm like, "What
do you, I'm just?"
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I didn't know how to say no to
someone like him at the time,
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which I regret.
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- The next thing I knew,
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he had unzipped his fly
and pulled out his penis.
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(dramatic music)
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My heart started pounding.
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My mind started racing.
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How do I deal with this?
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How do I get out of this?
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Am I going to get out of this?
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How is this happening?
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He then grabbed my hand
and pulled me towards him,
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and forced my hand onto his
penis and held it there.
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He said, "Name anyone, any
actress you can think of
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"and this is how they made it."
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I have told parts of this story
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to only a very few
people over the years.
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I felt so powerless
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because he is, after
all, very powerful,
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and very well known
and very successful.
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I didn't think anyone
would believe me.
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I was nobody.
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Why would they?
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- [Narrator] New York City 1979.
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Two brothers, having
successfully built
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a concert promotion business,
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decide to gamble on a new
business venture together.
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They set up a small,
independent film distribution
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company called Miramax.
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- Harvey thinks that he
was in an alternate reality
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actually, he thinks
he's gonna wake up
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and this is not the real thing.
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- [Narrator] In just
a few short years,
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Miramax would grow to
become one of the biggest
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players in the
entertainment industry,
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and Harvey and Bob Weinstein
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would become household names.
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(dramatic music)
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- Harvey Weinstein
has been a mogul
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in the entertainment
industry for decades
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and it really started
in independent film,
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and I think that's
where a lot of people
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got to know him
and his brother Bob
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from Miramax, the film company,
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and especially in the 90s
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when independent film was
just absolutely everything,
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they started to get more
and more power in Hollywood.
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Their company was
eventually bought by Disney,
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and of course that
brought them more money,
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more power, and I
think that allure,
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having a film made by
Miramax, made by Disney,
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was a really big deal.
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- Harvey Weinstein was someone.
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He was this kid from
Queens, New York,
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him and his brother.
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They started off as
concert promoters.
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Harvey always had
his plan in place.
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He wanted to be a
huge Hollywood player,
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and he became that.
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- Miramax became
especially known
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for their Oscar
pushes for films.
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They were the studio
that if you wanted
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to hold up that gold statue,
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at the end of the season
that you should go to,
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so they had countless
hits including
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Pulp Fiction,
Shakespeare in Love,
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and through those they allowed
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their actors and actresses
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to say, "Thank you"
to the Academy.
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- I'm one of those kids
from Brooklyn and Queens
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who used to watch the Oscars
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and root and cheer
and had dreams,
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and I just wanted
to dedicate this
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as everybody does, mine, anyhow,
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to all those kids out there,
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and tell 'em to break the rules.
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- [Narrator] Miramax
spearheaded some of the most
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successful films of their time.
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Pulp Fiction in 1994,
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Good Will Hunting in 1997,
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and Shakespeare in Love in 1998.
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Their might in the
industry was evidential,
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recognized in their countless
Oscars and accolades.
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(dramatic music)
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- Harvey was never liked.
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People feared him.
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People wanted to work with him,
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people wanted him to
put them on screen,
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to get them an Oscar,
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and he literally bought
Oscars for everybody.
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No one to this day can explain
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how Shakespeare in Love
beat Saving Private Ryan
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for Academy Award
for Best Picture.
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The reason?
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Harvey Weinstein.
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And the same guy who
is powerful enough
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to beat Steven Spielberg
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as best picture
was powerful enough
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to shut up any actress,
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any starlet who complained about
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the fact that he wanted
to get naked with her.
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(dramatic music)
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- To be cast in a Miramax movie
or Weinstein Company movie,
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that's huge, that's big,
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especially for someone
who's just starting out.
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Harvey was seen as
someone who championed
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these smaller films,
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more artistic.
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He was an actor's producer,
a director's producer
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for more refined tastes,
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so to be cast in
a Miramax movie,
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to know that Harvey
was behind you,
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it was a great badge
of honor in this town.
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To know that Harvey
Weinstein was pushing you
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for an award for an Oscar.
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You couldn't have asked
for a better strategist.
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- [Narrator] In
2005, Harvey and Bob
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left Miramax and formed
their own company,
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The Weinstein Company.
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(dramatic music)
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- Well, Miramax, unfortunately,
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we don't have the name,
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but I think with directors
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like Quentin Tarantino,
Robert Rodriguez,
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Anthony Minghella, John
Madden, Marty Scorsese,
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all coming with the new company,
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it's sort of the
ongoing business
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without Mom and Dad's name.
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We still own the name Dimension,
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and if anybody can come
up with a better name
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than The Weinstein
Company, we're all ears.
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(laughing)
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- Nothing's better than
the Weinstein brothers,
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so the name is great.
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(laughing)
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(dramatic music)
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- I got to thinking about
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what a great producer he is
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and what it takes
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to be such a great producer.
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'Cause I've made so many movies
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and I've worked with
so many different
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kind of producers.
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And really, to be a great
producer takes such heart.
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To really put such love and care
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and guts and balls
into really making
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a movie come together.
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It takes so much.
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You have to fight tooth and nail
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to make a movie
really come together
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in the way that Harvey's
made so many great movies
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over all these years,
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and to have him stand
up for his artists
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and for the scripts,
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and for making those
movies come together.
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Harvey is an unbelievably
astonishing killer producer
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and his love for that
and for his people
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is just legendary,
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and I just want you to know
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Miriam, your mom, who I know
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has raised a really good son
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and I'm proud of you Harvey.
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(applause)
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And I mean that.
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So thank you.
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- Winning the best picture
helps make the night go great,
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and best actor didn't hurt
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and best director
didn't hurt that
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and screenplay
wasn't bad either,
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so it was pretty great.
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- [Interviewer] At this
point in your career,
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do these things
still surprise you?
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Are you--
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- I loved it, it's fun.
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Come on, I've been loving
this since you're a kid.
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It's like the world
series for guys, okay?
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- [Narrator] Harvey
seemed unstoppable,
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but on October fifth, 2017,
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his empire would
come crashing down.
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The New York Times
published a comprehensive
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investigation, exposing
a horrific string
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of sexual, predatory behavior
and abuse allegations
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by the most powerful man in
Hollywood, Harvey Weinstein.
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The allegations
span three decades
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and disclosed instances
of indecent exposure,
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inappropriate touching,
non-consensual advances
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and rape.
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- What happened with Harvey,
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we all knew he was a bully,
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and bully's putting it lightly.
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Bully sort of
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encompasses everything now,
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from simple name calling
to physical attacks,
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but he was mean.
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He was degrading.
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He had no problem
calling someone stupid,
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dumb, throwing things at
people, flipping tables.
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Everyone knew what he was.
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This is again, this
is not a surprise.
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We all knew what
a monster he was.
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- [Narrator] In response to
the New York Times article,
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Mr. Weinstein issued
the following statement.
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I appreciate the way I've
behaved with colleagues
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in the past has
caused a lot of pain,
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and I sincerely
apologize for it.
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Though I'm trying to do better,
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I know I have a long way to go.
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- When The New York
Times broke the story,
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it wasn't the first time
a news outlet had tried.
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New York Magazine,
New York Times,
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both had tried in the
past to do a piece
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about Harvey Weinstein
and all the rumors,
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both times they were scuppered
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by Harvey's team of legal eagles
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who threatened and
called up and screamed
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and pulled out all
these reasons why
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they were gonna sue if
the stories went public.
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When The New York Times
actually published the piece,
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I believe that it was
their thorough reporting
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and also the willingness
of a respectable actress
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such as Ashley Judd
to go on the record
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about what had happened to her,
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which gave it believability
and credibility.
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- [Narrator] Actress Ashley Judd
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was one of the first
women to publicly
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recount her ordeal.
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She stated that over
two decades ago,
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she met Mr. Weinstein
in his suite
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at the Peninsula
Beverly Hills hotel
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for what she thought would
be a breakfast meeting.
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Once she arrived, Harvey
allegedly pestered her
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repeatedly for a massage
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and then attempted to
move her into the bathroom
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so that she could
watch him shower.
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Judd immediately told her
agent, Michelle Bohan,
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but was helpless to
take any further action.
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- Ashley Judd's sit
down with Diane Sawyer
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is incredibly powerful.
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In great part because she is
a truly evolved human being.
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She talks about her
belief in a loving God,
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and at the very end she says,
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"I believe that Harvey
Weinstein deserves forgiveness.
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"He deserves a chance,
he deserves to be loved."
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And it was so gracious
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that it just leaves
with your mouth agape,
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at how she could be so polite,
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how she could be so forgiving,
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how she could be so kind
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to a man who is without a
question a complete monster.
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- I wish I could prevent
it for anyone always.
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I don't know that I
would have been believed
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and who was I to tell?
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- I first heard the name
Zelda as Harvey's assistant
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about 10 years ago,
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way before this happened.
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She had signed an NDA but
she was a friend of a friend
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and I had heard
through that friend
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that some very unpalatable
things had happened
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during her time at Miramax,
which is why she left.
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She was not happy,
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and she was disturbed
by a lot of it,
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and then, of course,
you fast forward
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to the scandal breaking
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and Zelda, very bravely,
decided to come forward
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against the terms of her
NDA and speak her truth,
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and I think what I
found most insightful
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about what Zelda had to say
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was to try and explain
how this happened.
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Everybody can read
about this and think,
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"Well, why did they
go in his hotel room?
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"And why did they
allow themselves
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"to get in this position?"
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And you can judge and criticize,
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but what Zelda
explained was look,
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Harvey regularly did
meetings in his hotel room.
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He had a suite, he
always had a suite,
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so there was a living room,
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so male and female
industry players
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went up to his room and
he took meetings there.
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Male directors, male agents,
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they sat in the suite
and they took meetings,
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so for Ashley Judd to
go up to his hotel suite
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was not her doing anything
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that other people and men
hadn't done previously.
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Harvey took meetings
in his room.
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Zelda also went on to explain
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that the position he was in,
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how much power he had,
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how attractive that was.
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People wanted his attention.
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People wanted to take
meetings with him.
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People wanted to be around him.
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He used, abused, and
manipulated this power,
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but it's undeniable
that he had that power.
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The reason he was
able to get away
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with so much of this is because
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people were afraid
to turn him down.
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Harvey wants to see
you in his hotel suite,
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of course, you're thinking,
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"Maybe I can get a job.
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"Maybe he'll cast me
in his next movie."
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It was a very difficult
decision to make
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and a lot of actresses
who are now speaking out
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saying that they
went up to his room
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and he was naked, he
was in his bathrobe,
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he asked for a naked massage.
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He wanted to watch him shower.
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Were horrified,
horrified and shocked,
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but the hotel room thing,
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Zelda very clearly explains
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was something that
everybody did.
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It wasn't just women,
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but the women of
course were the ones
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who were preyed upon.
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(suspenseful music)
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- [Narrator] Actress
Rose McGowan accused
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Harvey Weinstein of raping her
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at the 1997 Sundance
Film Festival.
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She also claimed
that Amazon Studios
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knew about the incident
and yet neglected
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to act accordingly.
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- In 1997, Rose McGowan
attended the Sundance
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Film Festival along
with Ben Affleck
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and Matt Damon and
Harvey Weinstein.
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There was an incident
that happened
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in the hotel suite
on the top floor
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where Harvey Weinstein,
according to Rose, raped her.
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This is something that
Rose is talking about
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in her book, Brave,
where she details
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her experience at the hands
of the Hollywood monster.
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What's further disturbing
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is that Rose came
down the next day
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and told, according
to her, Ben Affleck
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and Matt Damon, what
Harvey had done to her,
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and the reaction was to,
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"Oh, I told him to
stop doing that."
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It wasn't, "Call the police.
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"What can we do to help?
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"Let's call a lawyer.
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"Let's prosecute him."
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It was, "I told him
to stop doing that."
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It was shrugged off,
it was minimized,
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it was brushed off,
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and as Rose says now
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that experience
in that hotel room
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has been strapped to
her back for 20 years.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Narrator] McGowan
has previously said
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she was not supported
by her management
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at the time of the
alleged attack.
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Jill Messick represented
McGowan in 1997
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when the actress alleged she
was raped by Harvey Weinstein.
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Since the claims
have come forward,
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Jill Messick tragically
took her own life.
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Messick's family confirmed
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that she was used
as collateral damage
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in the Weinstein case.
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This came after
Weinstein's lawyer
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published an email from Messick
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to help deny McGowan's claims,
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describing the
incident as consensual.
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(dramatic music)
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- Everybody knew about
Harvey Weinstein.
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Everybody knew
about his behavior,
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yet nobody did anything.
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That made it almost impossible
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for anybody to come forward
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and make any accusations,
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so, for instance,
a video surfaced
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of Courtney Love saying
how to get on in Hollywood
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and what to do and what
to avoid in Hollywood,
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and she said, "If you get asked
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"to go into a private
party by Harvey Weinstein
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"at the Four Seasons
hotel, decline it."
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- [Interviewer] Do
you have any advice
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for a young girl
moving to Hollywood?
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- I'll get libeled if I said it.
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If Harvey Weinstein invites you
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to a private party at the
Four Seasons, don't go.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Narrator] When
Model Amber Battilana
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came forward with her story,
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she shared an audio recording
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she had made from an
encounter with Harvey,
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confronting him after
being harassed by him,
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just the day before.
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- [Harvey] I'm telling
you right now--
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- [Amber] What do
we have to do here?
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- [Harvey] Nothing.
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I'm gonna take a shower.
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You sit there and
have a drink, water.
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- [Amber] I don't drink.
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- [Harvey] Then have
a glass of water.
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- [Amber] Can I stay on the bar?
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- [Harvey] No, you
must come here now.
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- [Amber] No.
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- [Harvey] Look, please come.
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- [Amber] No, I don't want to.
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- [Harvey] I'm not doing
anything with you, I promise.
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- I know.
- Now you're embarrassing me.
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- I'm sorry.
- No, come in.
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- [Amber] Yesterday
was aggressive for me.
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I need to know a person before--
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- [Harvey] I won't do a thing.
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(dramatic music)
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- One of the most
astonishing stories we heard
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was Gwyneth Paltrow
coming forward
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and saying she too
was sexually harassed
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by Harvey Weinstein
early in her career,
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but then, we were
even more astonished
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that we found out
that Brad Pitt,
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who she was with at the time,
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confronted Harvey,
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and said, "Don't ever
do this to her again."
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He literally poked
him in the chest.
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To think of that experience,
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while imaging Brad Pitt
confronting Harvey Weinstein.
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Everyone was shocked.
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Not only did Brad
Pitt confront a man
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who sexually harassed
Gwyneth Paltrow ,
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but that man was at the
height of his power.
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This way the heyday of Miramax,
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so for Brad to do that,
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I imagine he was
probably nervous, too.
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He was probably nervous
about his career also
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but it's an incredible story.
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- I would like to
thank Harvey Weinstein
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and everybody at Miramax films
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for their undying support of me.
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- Gwyneth Paltrow says
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that when she was
only 22 years old
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that Weinstein invited
her to a hotel room
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for a meeting and
then propositioned
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and sexually harassed her.
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Paltrow's allegations
have become
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some of the most wide
spread in Hollywood,
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where the women have
said that Weinstein
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invited them to a hotel room
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under the guise of a meeting
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and then asked them
to give him a massage
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or asked to be able
to massage them.
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That seemed to be his tactic.
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- I had seen Harvey
Weinstein on a host,
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a myriad of red carpets,
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but I first actually
spoke to him
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at the launch of Top
Magazine in 1999.
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It was a big party,
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and they had taken
all the top press
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out to Ellis Island
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where he arrived for the launch
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of his new magazine.
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Talk Magazine was going
to be a way for him,
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by the way, to control
more journalists
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because it was going to option
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these great articles,
Vanity Fair style
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into movies and
television programs,
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and it was a way
for him to expand
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his media empire into print
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and a way for him
to have more power
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than he already did.
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I remember him well.
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He was lord of the night
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and he was very
large, heavyset man,
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and he walked around like
he was King Henry the Eighth
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00:22:16,202 --> 00:22:17,737
reincarnated.
518
00:22:17,737 --> 00:22:20,707
It was his kingdom, we were
just there at his pleasure.
519
00:22:20,707 --> 00:22:25,712
He was the man of the hour
and the week and the month.
520
00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,014
He was incredibly powerful,
521
00:22:28,014 --> 00:22:30,517
particularly in New York,
where I worked as a journalist.
522
00:22:30,517 --> 00:22:34,387
He was maybe the most
powerful man in media,
523
00:22:34,387 --> 00:22:38,124
certainly in our city,
in Manhattan for sure,
524
00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:40,793
and his influence, his reach,
525
00:22:40,793 --> 00:22:44,230
his control, his
power was incredible.
526
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:46,399
I remember Gwyneth
Paltrow was on the cover
527
00:22:46,399 --> 00:22:48,435
of the very first issue of Talk
528
00:22:48,435 --> 00:22:51,971
and inside, she did
this very bizarre S an M
529
00:22:51,971 --> 00:22:53,840
type of photo shoot,
530
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,109
really not her
style and pictures
531
00:22:57,109 --> 00:23:00,112
were very, very bizarre.
532
00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:02,615
Gwyneth said later she
had done the S and M shoot
533
00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:04,183
as a favor to Harvey,
534
00:23:04,183 --> 00:23:05,685
who had asked her to do it,
535
00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:08,287
and she felt it was
a bit exploitative,
536
00:23:08,287 --> 00:23:10,757
but she did it for him.
537
00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:14,494
Again, we started
to see the dynamic
538
00:23:14,494 --> 00:23:17,063
that he would set
up with actresses
539
00:23:17,063 --> 00:23:20,066
where he would live
out his own fantasies
540
00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:24,303
through persuasion and
manipulation and negotiation
541
00:23:24,303 --> 00:23:25,505
with them,
542
00:23:25,505 --> 00:23:27,406
but Harvey Weinstein
used to show up
543
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:30,342
at all the red carpet
events, the Oscars,
544
00:23:30,342 --> 00:23:31,978
that I would go to,
545
00:23:31,978 --> 00:23:33,145
walk the red carpet,
546
00:23:33,145 --> 00:23:34,814
and give some sound bytes.
547
00:23:34,814 --> 00:23:36,783
I met him several
times over the years,
548
00:23:36,783 --> 00:23:38,618
he was always bombastic,
549
00:23:38,618 --> 00:23:40,119
he was always opinionated,
550
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,321
he was always arrogant.
551
00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:44,724
- To learn
552
00:23:46,526 --> 00:23:49,896
that Angelina Jolie who
also Brad Pitt was with,
553
00:23:49,896 --> 00:23:51,531
early in her career,
554
00:23:51,531 --> 00:23:54,066
she came forward and said
that she was sexually harassed
555
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:56,569
by Harvey and then Angelina said
556
00:23:56,569 --> 00:23:58,838
"From that day on,
I said I will never
557
00:23:58,838 --> 00:24:00,306
"make a movie with that man."
558
00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:01,240
And she didn't.
559
00:24:03,142 --> 00:24:04,677
- [Narrator] I had a
bad experience with
560
00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:06,579
Harvey Weinstein in my youth
561
00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:09,682
and as a result, chose
never to work again
562
00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:12,752
and warn others when they did.
563
00:24:12,752 --> 00:24:15,755
This behavior towards
women in any field,
564
00:24:15,755 --> 00:24:18,725
any country, is unacceptable.
565
00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:23,395
(dramatic music)
566
00:24:26,165 --> 00:24:29,769
(camera shutters clicking)
567
00:24:30,737 --> 00:24:33,540
(somber music)
568
00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:36,008
- He called me into his office
569
00:24:36,008 --> 00:24:37,610
and told me to sit on the couch.
570
00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:40,547
He then sat down next to me
571
00:24:42,014 --> 00:24:45,952
and proceeded to tell me how
things worked in Hollywood.
572
00:24:45,952 --> 00:24:48,855
He asked me if I was good.
573
00:24:48,855 --> 00:24:51,791
I started to tell
him about my training
574
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:53,593
and my acting experience,
575
00:24:53,593 --> 00:24:57,396
and he said, "No, I need
to know if you're good."
576
00:24:57,396 --> 00:24:59,465
He said that if he
was going to introduce
577
00:24:59,465 --> 00:25:02,935
me around town to
directors and producers,
578
00:25:02,935 --> 00:25:05,705
he needed to know
if I was any good.
579
00:25:05,705 --> 00:25:10,677
He had this sly, sleazy
smile on his face,
580
00:25:10,677 --> 00:25:13,012
and the fact that he
was sitting so close
581
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:14,246
to me on this couch,
582
00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:18,651
I started to get a sick
feeling in my stomach.
583
00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:21,954
The next thing I knew,
584
00:25:23,155 --> 00:25:25,491
he had unzipped his fly
585
00:25:25,491 --> 00:25:27,426
and pulled out his penis.
586
00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:30,496
(dramatic music)
587
00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:32,164
My heart started pounding.
588
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:35,635
My mind started racing.
589
00:25:36,636 --> 00:25:38,705
How do I deal with this?
590
00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:40,607
How do I get out of this?
591
00:25:40,607 --> 00:25:42,408
Am I going to get out of this.
592
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:45,311
How is this happening?
593
00:25:45,311 --> 00:25:48,247
He then grabbed my hand
and pulled towards him,
594
00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:51,651
and forced my hand
onto his penis
595
00:25:51,651 --> 00:25:52,752
and held it there.
596
00:25:54,721 --> 00:25:56,388
I was frozen with fear.
597
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,192
Trying to remain calm,
598
00:26:00,192 --> 00:26:01,661
trying not to freak out
599
00:26:01,661 --> 00:26:05,197
because, after all, there was
nobody else in the office.
600
00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:08,701
I pulled my hand away
as casually as possible.
601
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:15,875
He told me that this was how
things worked in Hollywood,
602
00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:17,176
and that all of the actresses
603
00:26:17,176 --> 00:26:18,811
that had made it
604
00:26:18,811 --> 00:26:20,146
had made it this way.
605
00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:26,452
He said, "Name anyone, any
actress you can think of,
606
00:26:26,452 --> 00:26:28,020
"and this is how they made it."
607
00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:29,388
He spelled it out for me.
608
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:34,160
He told me that first I
would have sex with him,
609
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:37,329
and then he would
take me to parties
610
00:26:37,329 --> 00:26:39,899
and show me who I needed
to sleep with after that.
611
00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:45,471
On Monday, following
that Friday nightmare
612
00:26:45,471 --> 00:26:48,641
with Harvey Weinstein,
I resigned from my job.
613
00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:53,880
Not long after
that, I quit acting.
614
00:26:55,147 --> 00:26:57,016
I have told parts of this story
615
00:26:58,184 --> 00:27:00,720
to only a very few
people over the years.
616
00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:06,158
I felt so powerless
617
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:10,329
because he is, after
all, very powerful
618
00:27:12,198 --> 00:27:16,202
and very well known
and very successful.
619
00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:22,174
I didn't think anyone
would believe me.
620
00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:24,210
I was nobody.
621
00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:27,146
Why would they?
622
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:33,986
(dramatic music)
623
00:27:39,625 --> 00:27:41,427
- Harvey Weinstein is hideous.
624
00:27:41,427 --> 00:27:42,929
He's always been hideous.
625
00:27:42,929 --> 00:27:45,798
His first wife, Eve,
was his assistant.
626
00:27:45,798 --> 00:27:48,735
Was an assistant
who he undoubtedly
627
00:27:48,735 --> 00:27:51,771
sexually cajoled and harassed
in his position of power
628
00:27:51,771 --> 00:27:53,505
into marrying him.
629
00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:55,474
He used to leave
flowers on her desk.
630
00:27:55,474 --> 00:27:59,478
He seduced her with his
power and his position.
631
00:27:59,478 --> 00:28:01,848
They married, they
have three children.
632
00:28:01,848 --> 00:28:05,384
Eve decided very much to
stay out of the limelight.
633
00:28:05,384 --> 00:28:07,486
She raised their three children,
634
00:28:07,486 --> 00:28:10,389
their three
daughters in privacy.
635
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:12,124
Harvey continued
to work the scene.
636
00:28:12,124 --> 00:28:14,226
He continued to have affairs.
637
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:16,295
When I first met
Harvey Weinstein,
638
00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:17,764
he was still married to Eve,
639
00:28:17,764 --> 00:28:20,332
but we heard stories
repeatedly again and again
640
00:28:20,332 --> 00:28:23,970
about various actresses he
was having liaisons with.
641
00:28:23,970 --> 00:28:25,271
That's what we thought,
642
00:28:25,271 --> 00:28:26,839
but we knew he was
cheating on his wife
643
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:28,440
and it was an open secret.
644
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,410
When Harvey and Eve
finally divorced,
645
00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:33,813
it was a shock to
exactly no one.
646
00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:35,714
It had been years since
they'd been together.
647
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,383
It'd been years since
they'd lived together,
648
00:28:37,383 --> 00:28:40,920
and everybody knew
about his womanizing.
649
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,689
When Harvey and
Georgina got married,
650
00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:45,457
it was a surprise.
651
00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:49,395
First of all, Georgina
had her own family money.
652
00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,463
She had gone to private
schools in the UK,
653
00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:55,167
she was very posh and she
was starting a fashion label,
654
00:28:55,167 --> 00:28:58,470
Marchesa, seemingly on her own,
655
00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:00,773
and she didn't seem
to need Harvey,
656
00:29:00,773 --> 00:29:02,308
so it was a bit of a surprise
657
00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:04,410
when this young,
stunning, beautiful woman
658
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:07,780
would actually marry this
hideous, disgusting human being,
659
00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,081
but she did.
660
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:11,784
Now, we come to
find out that Harvey
661
00:29:11,784 --> 00:29:15,654
threatened actresses
all over Hollywood
662
00:29:15,654 --> 00:29:17,990
that if they didn't
wear his wife's gowns
663
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:19,258
on the red carpet,
664
00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:21,693
he wouldn't put them
in any more movies.
665
00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:22,929
Felicity Hoffman
actually confirmed
666
00:29:22,929 --> 00:29:25,564
that she was ordered
to wear Marchesa
667
00:29:25,564 --> 00:29:28,167
on red carpets during
her Oscar campaign.
668
00:29:28,167 --> 00:29:30,102
Other actresses,
Renee Zellweger,
669
00:29:30,102 --> 00:29:32,638
were pressured and
forced to wear Marchesa.
670
00:29:32,638 --> 00:29:34,506
Harvey used his
position of power
671
00:29:34,506 --> 00:29:36,008
not only to abuse women
672
00:29:36,008 --> 00:29:38,377
but also to force
them to do things
673
00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:41,513
that benefited him and his wife.
674
00:29:41,513 --> 00:29:45,284
Georgina and Harvey went on
to have two children together,
675
00:29:45,284 --> 00:29:49,555
and initially, Georgina
was going to stand by him.
676
00:29:49,555 --> 00:29:52,091
Georgina issued a
statement saying
677
00:29:52,091 --> 00:29:53,425
that he was receiving therapy
678
00:29:53,425 --> 00:29:54,927
and they were gonna work it out,
679
00:29:54,927 --> 00:29:56,963
and then, of course,
as we started to see
680
00:29:56,963 --> 00:29:59,866
the dozens and dozens and
dozens of women coming forward,
681
00:29:59,866 --> 00:30:01,800
including allegations of rape,
682
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,037
she very quietly
changed her mind.
683
00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:07,806
(dramatic music)
684
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:12,478
- [Narrator] Georgina
Chapman, Harvey's wife
685
00:30:12,478 --> 00:30:14,914
and fashion designer,
founder of Marchesa
686
00:30:14,914 --> 00:30:18,150
announced in a statement
that she was leaving him.
687
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:21,053
"My heart breaks
for all the women
688
00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:22,588
"who have suffered
tremendous pain
689
00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:25,357
"because of these
unforgivable actions."
690
00:30:27,193 --> 00:30:28,460
Further adding,
691
00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:30,562
"I have chosen to
leave my husband.
692
00:30:30,562 --> 00:30:33,599
"Caring for my young
children is my first priority
693
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,768
"and I ask the media for
privacy at this time."
694
00:30:37,904 --> 00:30:40,039
- As soon as the follow
up New York Times
695
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:41,473
piece came out
where you had people
696
00:30:41,473 --> 00:30:44,143
like Gwyneth Paltrow
openly talking
697
00:30:44,143 --> 00:30:46,745
about what had happened
to them with Uncle Harvey,
698
00:30:46,745 --> 00:30:48,647
as she sickeningly called him,
699
00:30:48,647 --> 00:30:50,983
I knew his wife, Georgina,
was gonna leave him.
700
00:30:50,983 --> 00:30:53,052
There was no way
that Harvey's wife
701
00:30:53,052 --> 00:30:55,287
was gonna be able to withstand
702
00:30:55,287 --> 00:30:56,355
all of these allegations
703
00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:58,124
including the ones of rape.
704
00:30:58,124 --> 00:31:01,027
It started out as he
was a little creepy,
705
00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:03,495
he wanted me to watch
him in the shower,
706
00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:04,830
or give him a massage,
707
00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:07,866
and it ended with
rape, sexual assault,
708
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:11,270
sexual predation
and a systematic
709
00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:14,941
pattern of behavior
in which he abused
710
00:31:14,941 --> 00:31:17,343
his power and abused women.
711
00:31:17,343 --> 00:31:19,912
There's no way that Harvey
Weinstein can weather
712
00:31:19,912 --> 00:31:21,948
this particular storm.
713
00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:24,650
No matter how good his
team of public relations
714
00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:28,387
experts, lawyers,
bad guys, attack dogs
715
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:30,356
that he hires,
716
00:31:30,356 --> 00:31:33,492
Harvey Weinstein has been
exposed as a monster.
717
00:31:34,961 --> 00:31:37,129
(dramatic music)
718
00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:42,134
(camera shutters clicking)
(dramatic music)
719
00:31:44,803 --> 00:31:48,074
(man speaking indistinctly)
720
00:31:48,074 --> 00:31:50,542
- Meeting Harvey was,
for me, everything,
721
00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:53,179
thinking this is an opportunity,
722
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,314
and so I,
723
00:31:55,314 --> 00:31:58,750
everything in which
I believed in,
724
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:01,787
and believing that there's
a second chance for me,
725
00:32:01,787 --> 00:32:03,189
he was that man.
726
00:32:04,223 --> 00:32:07,493
He took hold of me
727
00:32:07,493 --> 00:32:10,762
and pretty much
forced me to walk
728
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:12,031
with him to the bathroom
729
00:32:12,031 --> 00:32:14,766
where he stood me in
front of the mirror
730
00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:18,737
and he stood behind me
731
00:32:18,737 --> 00:32:20,806
and I was like,
"What are you doing?"
732
00:32:20,806 --> 00:32:23,709
He's like touching
me, rubbing me,
733
00:32:23,709 --> 00:32:26,045
and he's like, "Just relax."
734
00:32:26,045 --> 00:32:27,279
And I'm telling him to stop
735
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:28,680
and he would raise his voice
736
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,816
but at the same time,
he kept reassuring me
737
00:32:30,816 --> 00:32:33,152
that everything's
going to be okay,
738
00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:35,187
and he was rubbing my breasts
739
00:32:35,187 --> 00:32:39,358
and he placed his leg
between mine from behind,
740
00:32:39,358 --> 00:32:42,861
and was rubbing
against my vagina,
741
00:32:42,861 --> 00:32:47,733
and he pulled, 'cause I
had a dress on at the time,
742
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,602
and he pulled it down,
exposing my breasts.
743
00:32:50,602 --> 00:32:52,071
God, I feel so stupid.
744
00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:58,177
I would say to him,
"People believe in you
745
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,715
"and it's not been
fair that you've used
746
00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:07,419
"the power, the
gift that you have,
747
00:33:07,419 --> 00:33:09,755
"you've turned it
into such a corruption
748
00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:11,923
"to take advantage
of other people."
749
00:33:13,625 --> 00:33:16,395
(dramatic music)
750
00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,101
- You're meeting with
a very powerful guy
751
00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:24,603
in Hollywood, that's makes
a lot of actresses careers
752
00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:28,307
happen, so when he said
to go to the Peninsula,
753
00:33:28,307 --> 00:33:32,010
I just thought, "That's
a bar, so fine."
754
00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,413
So we met at the bar there,
755
00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:36,282
and we talked for a few minutes,
756
00:33:36,282 --> 00:33:37,749
and then he didn't
really ask me,
757
00:33:37,749 --> 00:33:40,952
he just said, "We're going
upstairs to my room."
758
00:33:40,952 --> 00:33:43,322
And I didn't really
know how to take that.
759
00:33:43,322 --> 00:33:48,327
I didn't know how to say
no to someone like him
760
00:33:48,927 --> 00:33:49,895
at the time,
761
00:33:49,895 --> 00:33:51,163
which I regret,
762
00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:54,133
and as many times as I
said no and resisted,
763
00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:56,034
I just feel like that he was not
764
00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:57,936
gonna let up on the idea,
765
00:33:57,936 --> 00:34:00,106
and it's kind of like
I felt too frozen
766
00:34:00,106 --> 00:34:01,840
to run out of the room.
767
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,643
- In this case, we allege that
768
00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,978
the Weinstein Company knew
769
00:34:08,347 --> 00:34:10,349
that one of its key
executives and part owner,
770
00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:14,286
Harvey Weinstein, was
engaging in sexual misconduct
771
00:34:14,286 --> 00:34:16,088
and that he was
using his position at
772
00:34:16,088 --> 00:34:19,258
The Weinstein Company
to bring young,
773
00:34:19,258 --> 00:34:23,395
aspiring actresses
into vulnerable places
774
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:25,564
where he would
then prey on them.
775
00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:26,932
- Oh, I was there with them
776
00:34:26,932 --> 00:34:28,934
when we were shooting
it in Barcelona,
777
00:34:28,934 --> 00:34:31,002
and it's so hot, that place.
778
00:34:31,002 --> 00:34:34,573
It's so sexy, you just
get crazy thoughts there.
779
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:37,343
(dramatic music)
780
00:34:40,512 --> 00:34:44,049
- [Photographers]
Harvey, Harvey!
781
00:34:44,049 --> 00:34:44,883
Harvey!
782
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:49,455
- He is really watching
his entire career
783
00:34:49,455 --> 00:34:50,956
collapse at this point,
784
00:34:50,956 --> 00:34:53,792
and he's being kicked out
of a lot of the esteemed
785
00:34:53,792 --> 00:34:56,162
guilds and industry
organizations.
786
00:34:56,162 --> 00:34:57,996
We've seen him
kicked out of BAFTA,
787
00:34:57,996 --> 00:34:59,965
we've seen him kicked out
of the Academy of Motion
788
00:34:59,965 --> 00:35:01,833
Picture Arts and Sciences.
789
00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:04,536
He was just kicked out of
the Television Academy,
790
00:35:04,536 --> 00:35:07,973
Producer's Guild, nobody
wants him, honestly,
791
00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:10,609
because it's an honor to
be in any of these guilds
792
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:13,145
or associated with
some of the people
793
00:35:13,145 --> 00:35:14,613
who have worked so
hard in the industry,
794
00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:15,547
and you know what?
795
00:35:15,547 --> 00:35:16,715
At this point, we're just like,
796
00:35:16,715 --> 00:35:18,083
"You're not holding
up the ideals
797
00:35:18,083 --> 00:35:20,252
"of the organization, so
we have to say goodbye."
798
00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:23,322
- Well over two thirds
of the board of governors
799
00:35:23,322 --> 00:35:26,758
decided that they
weren't gonna put up with
800
00:35:26,758 --> 00:35:29,261
all of these claims
of sexual abuse
801
00:35:29,261 --> 00:35:31,997
and they decided to revoke
802
00:35:31,997 --> 00:35:34,800
Mr. Weinstein's membership
in that Academy.
803
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,002
The Academy of Motion
Picture Arts and Sciences
804
00:35:37,002 --> 00:35:39,070
board of governors
met today to discuss
805
00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:40,906
the allegations against
Harvey Weinstein
806
00:35:40,906 --> 00:35:44,109
and has voted well in excess
of the required two thirds
807
00:35:44,109 --> 00:35:47,846
majority to immediately
expel him from the Academy.
808
00:35:47,846 --> 00:35:50,682
We do so not simply to
separate ourselves from someone
809
00:35:50,682 --> 00:35:52,851
who does not merit the
respect of his colleagues
810
00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:55,153
but also to send a
message that the era
811
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:58,023
of willful ignorance
and shameful complicity
812
00:35:59,258 --> 00:36:00,992
in sexually predatory
behavior and workplace
813
00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:03,094
harassment in our
industry is over.
814
00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:05,864
(dramatic music)
815
00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:10,669
- We are here with
yet another woman
816
00:36:10,669 --> 00:36:14,673
who alleges that she was
victimized by Harvey Weinstein.
817
00:36:14,673 --> 00:36:17,142
- I was first introduced
to Harvey Weinstein
818
00:36:17,142 --> 00:36:21,146
at the European premiere
of The Aviator in 2004.
819
00:36:21,146 --> 00:36:23,048
After a few minutes of greetings
820
00:36:23,048 --> 00:36:24,650
and normal conversation,
821
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:27,419
Harvey suddenly asked me
if I'd give him a massage.
822
00:36:28,854 --> 00:36:30,922
I said, "No, sorry,
I'm not a masseuse."
823
00:36:30,922 --> 00:36:33,259
And I suggested he
contact hotel reception
824
00:36:33,259 --> 00:36:34,393
with his request.
825
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:39,598
He kept asking about massages,
826
00:36:39,598 --> 00:36:41,633
and so I felt the
meeting was going nowhere
827
00:36:41,633 --> 00:36:42,801
and I left.
828
00:36:42,801 --> 00:36:44,370
He kept messaging and calling me
829
00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:46,104
and even showed up
at the apartment
830
00:36:46,104 --> 00:36:48,173
where I was staying
in the East Village
831
00:36:48,173 --> 00:36:50,342
twice in one day,
832
00:36:50,342 --> 00:36:52,177
literally, physically
forced himself
833
00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:53,845
in through the door,
pleading with me
834
00:36:53,845 --> 00:36:55,814
to come with him to Paris.
835
00:36:55,814 --> 00:36:57,883
I found him overwhelming
to deal with,
836
00:36:57,883 --> 00:36:59,351
and I didn't know
how to shut it down,
837
00:36:59,351 --> 00:37:02,254
so I finally said, "I'm not
coming to Paris with you
838
00:37:02,254 --> 00:37:05,023
"and I hear you have a terrible
reputation with women."
839
00:37:06,157 --> 00:37:07,859
That's when he backed off.
840
00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:10,662
He was extremely persistent
and physically overpowering.
841
00:37:13,164 --> 00:37:16,067
He then orally
forced himself on me,
842
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:17,969
while I was on my period.
843
00:37:20,806 --> 00:37:23,041
He even pulled my tampon out.
844
00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:24,443
I was mortified.
845
00:37:24,443 --> 00:37:26,812
I was in disbelief
and disgusted.
846
00:37:33,018 --> 00:37:35,921
I would not have wanted
anyone to do that to me,
847
00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:39,024
even if the person had
been a romantic partner.
848
00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:42,728
I remember Harvey
afterwards rolling over
849
00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:44,563
onto his back saying,
850
00:37:44,563 --> 00:37:48,066
"Don't you feel we're so much
closer to each other now?"
851
00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:49,735
To which I replied, "No."
852
00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:54,673
(camera shutters clicking)
853
00:37:54,673 --> 00:37:58,544
A no is a no regardless
of the circumstances,
854
00:37:58,544 --> 00:37:59,811
and I told Harvey no.
855
00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:02,914
(dramatic music)
856
00:38:02,914 --> 00:38:06,752
- We need justice
for these victims.
857
00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:10,622
As soon as Mr. Weinstein
completes his therapy
858
00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:13,825
and returns to either
New York or Los Angeles,
859
00:38:13,825 --> 00:38:17,095
we urge him or his
representatives
860
00:38:17,095 --> 00:38:20,866
to contact me to discuss
our plan for justice
861
00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:21,667
for victims.
862
00:38:23,902 --> 00:38:26,672
(dramatic music)
863
00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:33,011
Vague apologies are not enough.
864
00:38:34,279 --> 00:38:36,848
(somber music)
865
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:44,690
- I had created a safeguard
of how I could avoid
866
00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:49,294
those situations and I never
was in a hotel room with him
867
00:38:49,294 --> 00:38:50,496
alone again.
868
00:38:51,697 --> 00:38:56,668
There's a lot of shame
around that experience
869
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:59,070
and then you ask yourself,
870
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:01,473
"Why did I work for
this person after that?
871
00:39:01,473 --> 00:39:03,241
"Why didn't I see it in the way
872
00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:04,976
"that the world has seen it now
873
00:39:04,976 --> 00:39:06,211
"when it happened?"
874
00:39:06,211 --> 00:39:08,647
I think that secrecy
around it is probably
875
00:39:08,647 --> 00:39:11,116
a big part of that.
876
00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:13,752
There are days that
I feel really angry,
877
00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:15,621
and upset
878
00:39:15,621 --> 00:39:19,024
and times when you feel that
879
00:39:20,892 --> 00:39:22,561
that person really is a monster
880
00:39:22,561 --> 00:39:25,897
and they deserve whatever
is coming to them
881
00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:27,966
but it's also not that,
882
00:39:27,966 --> 00:39:29,901
I've found that's
it not that helpful
883
00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:33,739
for me in terms of my
healing and understanding
884
00:39:33,739 --> 00:39:35,907
to feel that anger.
885
00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:38,777
It doesn't do
anything to serve me.
886
00:39:41,112 --> 00:39:42,514
- [Narrator] Actress
Emma Thompson spoke
887
00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:44,282
plainly and
eloquently to the BBC
888
00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:46,618
about the issues that
allowed this abuse
889
00:39:46,618 --> 00:39:48,319
of power to take place.
890
00:39:49,488 --> 00:39:52,390
- They see their only
choice to be this choice
891
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:53,659
that isn't a choice in fact,
892
00:39:53,659 --> 00:39:55,360
it's about power,
893
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,828
it's about how am I,
that I have no power,
894
00:39:56,828 --> 00:39:59,364
and that's because
in our systems
895
00:39:59,364 --> 00:40:00,832
there are not
nearly enough women,
896
00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:02,801
particularly in Hollywood
in positions of power.
897
00:40:02,801 --> 00:40:04,903
There aren't enough women
in the top of the tree
898
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:07,005
in the studios who could perhaps
899
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,474
balance everything out.
900
00:40:08,474 --> 00:40:11,042
There aren't enough
women on set.
901
00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:13,278
There just aren't
enough women, actually.
902
00:40:14,446 --> 00:40:16,347
- In Hollywood, whenever
there's a scandal,
903
00:40:16,347 --> 00:40:18,684
everybody talks about
redemption and rehab.
904
00:40:18,684 --> 00:40:19,918
It goes in that order.
905
00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:21,152
They beg for forgiveness
906
00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:22,654
and they go to rehab,
907
00:40:22,654 --> 00:40:24,623
whether it's for sex, 'cause
they got caught cheating,
908
00:40:24,623 --> 00:40:26,825
whether it's for drugs
because they got caught
909
00:40:26,825 --> 00:40:28,994
doing cocaine, whether it's for,
910
00:40:28,994 --> 00:40:30,195
whatever it is,
911
00:40:30,195 --> 00:40:31,897
they ask for forgiveness
and they immediately
912
00:40:31,897 --> 00:40:33,064
check into rehab.
913
00:40:33,064 --> 00:40:34,966
We saw Harvey Weinstein
do the same thing.
914
00:40:34,966 --> 00:40:37,903
He gets called out as a
rapist, sexual predator,
915
00:40:37,903 --> 00:40:39,204
and the next thing you know,
916
00:40:39,204 --> 00:40:41,306
he's checking himself
into sex rehab.
917
00:40:43,241 --> 00:40:45,677
Now, I loved what
Emma Thompson said
918
00:40:45,677 --> 00:40:47,879
when she sat down
with Emily Madelis,
919
00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:49,815
the journalist, and said,
920
00:40:49,815 --> 00:40:52,217
"It's not about sex addiction.
921
00:40:52,217 --> 00:40:53,919
"That's a different thing.
922
00:40:53,919 --> 00:40:56,522
"This is about being
a sexual predator."
923
00:40:56,522 --> 00:40:58,289
And she really very nicely
924
00:40:58,289 --> 00:40:59,525
drew the distinction, I think,
925
00:40:59,525 --> 00:41:03,061
because it's one thing
to try and borrow
926
00:41:03,061 --> 00:41:05,263
someone else's
disease or illness
927
00:41:05,263 --> 00:41:10,268
in order to make your bad
behavior seem more palatable.
928
00:41:10,268 --> 00:41:12,470
Celebrities time and
time again use rehab
929
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:15,541
as a way to redeem themselves
in the eyes of the public.
930
00:41:15,541 --> 00:41:16,742
It's not acceptable.
931
00:41:16,742 --> 00:41:18,877
They need to own up
and take responsibility
932
00:41:18,877 --> 00:41:20,145
for what they've done.
933
00:41:20,145 --> 00:41:22,180
In the case of Harvey
Weinstein, initially,
934
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:23,782
it looked like he really thought
935
00:41:23,782 --> 00:41:27,452
he was gonna get away
with a quick fix.
936
00:41:27,452 --> 00:41:30,121
Go to rehab, it'll blow over.
937
00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:31,990
His wife was standing by him.
938
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:35,627
He hired a very
powerful top lawyer,
939
00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:38,396
Elisa Bloom, who was famous
for representing women,
940
00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:40,566
and I think he thought
he had locked down.
941
00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:42,500
If you look at his
initial statement,
942
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,903
he throws out vague accusations
943
00:41:44,903 --> 00:41:46,572
against the women
who had come forward.
944
00:41:46,572 --> 00:41:50,008
He implies Ashley
Judd is mentally ill.
945
00:41:50,008 --> 00:41:52,077
He denies every doing anything
946
00:41:52,077 --> 00:41:53,344
that was not consensual,
947
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:55,581
and I think he thinks
he's got it covered.
948
00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:57,749
And it wasn't until
five days later
949
00:41:57,749 --> 00:42:01,753
when all the gate,
the floodgates opened,
950
00:42:01,753 --> 00:42:03,454
that I think he realized
951
00:42:03,454 --> 00:42:06,958
this dozens and dozens of women
952
00:42:06,958 --> 00:42:08,359
started speaking out
953
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:10,161
that actually there was no way
954
00:42:10,161 --> 00:42:12,598
he was going to be able
to contain the situation.
955
00:42:16,635 --> 00:42:19,370
(dramatic music)
956
00:42:21,506 --> 00:42:23,875
- The lengths to which
Harvey Weinstein to go,
957
00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:26,812
and his access, his ability
to go to these lengths
958
00:42:26,812 --> 00:42:28,446
to protect his name
959
00:42:28,446 --> 00:42:31,016
and to protect himself
from any accusations
960
00:42:31,016 --> 00:42:32,651
were quite extraordinary,
961
00:42:32,651 --> 00:42:35,220
so for instance,
he hired Blackcube,
962
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:37,656
ex-Israeli intelligence officers
963
00:42:37,656 --> 00:42:40,759
to find out who might
be making allegations
964
00:42:40,759 --> 00:42:43,261
against him and
to shut them down.
965
00:42:43,261 --> 00:42:46,331
That is an extraordinary
powerful position to be in,
966
00:42:46,331 --> 00:42:47,699
so again, when people say,
967
00:42:47,699 --> 00:42:49,234
"Why didn't people speak up?"
968
00:42:49,234 --> 00:42:51,136
So not only are you dealing
with Harvey Weinstein,
969
00:42:51,136 --> 00:42:52,638
not only are you
risking your career,
970
00:42:52,638 --> 00:42:54,539
not only are you
gonna be blacklisted,
971
00:42:54,539 --> 00:42:56,808
not only might you
be counter-sued
972
00:42:56,808 --> 00:42:57,776
for false allegations,
973
00:42:57,776 --> 00:42:59,044
you're also gonna face the might
974
00:42:59,044 --> 00:43:01,279
of all sorts of
the murkier world
975
00:43:01,279 --> 00:43:03,214
of intelligence and security
976
00:43:03,214 --> 00:43:06,351
that are set up and designed
to protect these men,
977
00:43:06,351 --> 00:43:09,220
and men like Harvey
Weinstein use that veil
978
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:11,589
and use that screen
of protection,
979
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,258
and it makes them
believe two things,
980
00:43:13,258 --> 00:43:16,061
one, that they'll never
ever ever get caught
981
00:43:16,061 --> 00:43:17,896
and secondly, if
they do get caught,
982
00:43:17,896 --> 00:43:19,698
if something dares
to accuse them,
983
00:43:19,698 --> 00:43:21,700
they will crush the
accuser like a fly.
984
00:43:23,001 --> 00:43:25,637
- We walked out of
the room and we lost,
985
00:43:25,637 --> 00:43:27,572
and then I realized
why I'm distributing
986
00:43:27,572 --> 00:43:30,008
this money, because they
picked on the wrong guy,
987
00:43:30,008 --> 00:43:31,509
they picked on the wrong movie,
988
00:43:31,509 --> 00:43:33,144
they picked on the wrong thing.
989
00:43:33,144 --> 00:43:36,247
(applause, cheering)
990
00:43:38,483 --> 00:43:40,418
- One of the great myths
of Harvey Weinstein,
991
00:43:40,418 --> 00:43:41,352
people will say,
992
00:43:41,352 --> 00:43:42,988
"Well, it can't be that real."
993
00:43:42,988 --> 00:43:45,590
"Because some of
these allegations go
back a long while.
994
00:43:45,590 --> 00:43:48,193
"Why are these women
coming out now?"
995
00:43:48,193 --> 00:43:50,528
You imagine this scenario, okay?
996
00:43:50,528 --> 00:43:54,432
You are a woman in a
lower state of power,
997
00:43:54,432 --> 00:43:57,002
relative to one of
the most powerful men
998
00:43:57,002 --> 00:43:58,536
in the entertainment industry,
999
00:43:58,536 --> 00:44:00,906
one of the most powerful
men in the United States.
1000
00:44:00,906 --> 00:44:03,641
This man knows everybody.
1001
00:44:03,641 --> 00:44:06,377
The top lawyers,
top politicians,
1002
00:44:06,377 --> 00:44:10,115
presidents, every film
director, every producer,
1003
00:44:10,115 --> 00:44:12,183
ever actor, everybody
1004
00:44:12,183 --> 00:44:15,620
acknowledges and bows
down to Harvey Weinstein.
1005
00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:18,189
You haven't been
touched inappropriately
1006
00:44:18,189 --> 00:44:20,525
in a vulnerable position
with nowhere near
1007
00:44:20,525 --> 00:44:22,694
his economic power,
his social power,
1008
00:44:22,694 --> 00:44:25,764
his political power,
what are you gonna do?
1009
00:44:25,764 --> 00:44:27,699
You're gonna think,
"That wasn't right."
1010
00:44:27,699 --> 00:44:28,967
And more often than not,
1011
00:44:28,967 --> 00:44:30,769
you may even turn
round and think,
1012
00:44:30,769 --> 00:44:32,704
"Was it something I did?"
1013
00:44:32,704 --> 00:44:33,939
This is what's most pernicious
1014
00:44:33,939 --> 00:44:35,406
about people like
Harvey Weinstein
1015
00:44:35,406 --> 00:44:37,142
because their power is so great
1016
00:44:37,142 --> 00:44:39,044
and the women he
abused were powerless,
1017
00:44:39,044 --> 00:44:42,080
relative to him until
now, relative to him,
1018
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,581
they might think,
1019
00:44:45,283 --> 00:44:46,651
"Well, what did I lead him on?
1020
00:44:46,651 --> 00:44:47,886
"Was it something I did?"
1021
00:44:47,886 --> 00:44:48,787
And the answer to
that is an absolute
1022
00:44:48,787 --> 00:44:49,721
and categorical no.
1023
00:44:49,721 --> 00:44:52,157
These women did not do anything
1024
00:44:52,157 --> 00:44:54,425
to encourage Harvey Weinstein
1025
00:44:54,425 --> 00:44:58,063
to engage with them
against their consent.
1026
00:44:58,063 --> 00:44:59,965
And they have not
only had to live
1027
00:44:59,965 --> 00:45:01,933
with the abuse,
they've had to live
1028
00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:03,601
with the feeling
of powerlessness
1029
00:45:03,601 --> 00:45:05,136
about having been abused
1030
00:45:05,136 --> 00:45:07,305
and also, feeling ashamed of it,
1031
00:45:07,305 --> 00:45:10,175
while Harvey Weinstein
just goes on and on and on
1032
00:45:10,175 --> 00:45:12,243
and keeps doing it and
doing it and doing it.
1033
00:45:12,243 --> 00:45:15,180
This is not just
the insatiability
1034
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:17,582
of dopamine, a
neurotransmitter in the brain
1035
00:45:17,582 --> 00:45:19,184
that drives the reward system,
1036
00:45:19,184 --> 00:45:21,386
it's the insatiability
of a powerful men
1037
00:45:21,386 --> 00:45:23,254
who preys on people that
are weaker than him,
1038
00:45:23,254 --> 00:45:25,390
women that are weaker than him.
1039
00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,292
- Excellent girl, excellent.
1040
00:45:27,292 --> 00:45:28,960
No, there's no better.
1041
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,128
You know what I mean?
1042
00:45:30,128 --> 00:45:31,362
She's just terrific.
1043
00:45:31,362 --> 00:45:33,298
She's good, really good,
good, she's wonderful.
1044
00:45:33,298 --> 00:45:34,900
- [Interviewer] She's
got a real charisma
1045
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,067
and presence about her.
- She does.
1046
00:45:36,067 --> 00:45:37,368
She certainly does.
1047
00:45:37,368 --> 00:45:38,904
- The whole thing
about Weinstein
1048
00:45:38,904 --> 00:45:41,940
was about power, it
wasn't about sex,
1049
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:45,811
and because every
time he expressed
1050
00:45:45,811 --> 00:45:48,279
what he considered
to be his status,
1051
00:45:48,279 --> 00:45:50,415
his power, his
dominance over women
1052
00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:53,084
he would get a chemical
high, a dopamine high.
1053
00:45:53,084 --> 00:45:55,186
The reward system
would kick in and say,
1054
00:45:55,186 --> 00:45:56,922
"Well done, Harvey."
1055
00:45:56,922 --> 00:45:58,689
And then, he'd go down after it.
1056
00:45:58,689 --> 00:46:01,592
It was known, some women
reported him as being tearful
1057
00:46:01,592 --> 00:46:03,594
or crying or whatever it was.
1058
00:46:03,594 --> 00:46:06,031
He may be remorseful for
a short amount of time,
1059
00:46:06,031 --> 00:46:07,298
but that is in no
way gonna change
1060
00:46:07,298 --> 00:46:08,433
that behavior pattern,
1061
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:11,069
because the craving comes back,
1062
00:46:12,037 --> 00:46:13,638
and then he does it again.
1063
00:46:13,638 --> 00:46:16,041
It could be touching a
woman inappropriately.
1064
00:46:16,041 --> 00:46:17,943
It could be sexually
assaulting her.
1065
00:46:17,943 --> 00:46:20,912
It could be rape, it could
be anything on that spectrum,
1066
00:46:20,912 --> 00:46:24,082
but unwanted physical
or emotional abuse
1067
00:46:24,082 --> 00:46:25,917
of a woman by a powerful man
1068
00:46:25,917 --> 00:46:27,185
and he thought he
could get away with it,
1069
00:46:27,185 --> 00:46:29,020
and he couldn't
stop the cravings,
1070
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:30,788
because not all the
money in the world,
1071
00:46:30,788 --> 00:46:32,190
not all the status in the world,
1072
00:46:32,190 --> 00:46:33,658
not all the power in the world
1073
00:46:33,658 --> 00:46:35,861
could stop that dopamine
rush telling him,
1074
00:46:35,861 --> 00:46:37,428
"Go on, Harvey, do it again,
1075
00:46:37,428 --> 00:46:39,264
"'cause this is how
we get pleasure.
1076
00:46:39,264 --> 00:46:41,299
"This is how we get off."
1077
00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:44,569
And when you're used to
getting away with it,
1078
00:46:44,569 --> 00:46:47,205
when you've done it
10 times, 100 times,
1079
00:46:47,205 --> 00:46:49,374
1000 times, who knows
how many times he did it,
1080
00:46:49,374 --> 00:46:50,608
over so many years,
1081
00:46:50,608 --> 00:46:52,010
and everybody knows about it
1082
00:46:52,010 --> 00:46:53,879
and he knows that
everybody knows about it,
1083
00:46:53,879 --> 00:46:55,146
and he knows that
everybody knows about it
1084
00:46:55,146 --> 00:46:57,015
and he's still
getting away with it,
1085
00:46:57,015 --> 00:46:58,516
he's gonna keep doing it.
1086
00:46:58,516 --> 00:47:01,286
Harvey Weinstein was
a man who groomed
1087
00:47:01,286 --> 00:47:03,821
an entire industry,
1088
00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:06,524
the entire film industry,
the entire entertainment
1089
00:47:06,524 --> 00:47:09,494
industry was groomed
by Harvey Weinstein,
1090
00:47:09,494 --> 00:47:12,530
and quite likely, people
are standing up and saying
1091
00:47:12,530 --> 00:47:14,465
enough is enough.
1092
00:47:14,465 --> 00:47:17,068
If men get their rush
from abusing women,
1093
00:47:17,068 --> 00:47:18,303
well, too bad.
1094
00:47:18,303 --> 00:47:19,504
They've got to pay
a price for it,
1095
00:47:19,504 --> 00:47:20,872
and it's time for
them to get their rush
1096
00:47:20,872 --> 00:47:22,040
and doing something else
1097
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,641
that's safe and
legal and consensual,
1098
00:47:23,641 --> 00:47:24,842
whatever that might be.
1099
00:47:27,245 --> 00:47:30,015
(dramatic music)
1100
00:47:31,649 --> 00:47:33,751
- There isn't really
an answer for Harvey
1101
00:47:33,751 --> 00:47:36,922
in terms of his just
going to rehab in Arizona,
1102
00:47:36,922 --> 00:47:39,290
saying he's going
for sexual addiction
1103
00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:40,425
or anything else like that,
1104
00:47:40,425 --> 00:47:42,427
because he's a predator.
1105
00:47:42,427 --> 00:47:44,862
He clearly set
the path and tried
1106
00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:46,998
to trap these women
in his hotel room
1107
00:47:46,998 --> 00:47:48,233
or in his house,
1108
00:47:48,233 --> 00:47:51,502
wherever it was, he
tried to make it happen,
1109
00:47:51,502 --> 00:47:53,271
and I don't think
it's that simple
1110
00:47:53,271 --> 00:47:54,805
of going to one week of rehab
1111
00:47:54,805 --> 00:47:56,607
and just being
like, "I'm sorry."
1112
00:47:56,607 --> 00:47:58,309
I have no sympathy for him,
1113
00:47:58,309 --> 00:48:00,311
because honestly,
this is a behavior
1114
00:48:00,311 --> 00:48:01,646
that's gone on for decades
1115
00:48:01,646 --> 00:48:04,515
and one week of rehab
is not going to solve
1116
00:48:04,515 --> 00:48:05,951
your problems.
1117
00:48:05,951 --> 00:48:07,986
- I think we're passed the
point of sexual addiction here.
1118
00:48:07,986 --> 00:48:09,487
This is not a sex addict.
1119
00:48:09,487 --> 00:48:13,358
This is a rapist,
this is a predator,
1120
00:48:13,358 --> 00:48:15,493
this is an abuser.
1121
00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:19,264
A victimizer,
1122
00:48:20,331 --> 00:48:22,100
he's a complete monster.
1123
00:48:23,501 --> 00:48:25,736
- Like a lot of
malignant narcissists,
1124
00:48:25,736 --> 00:48:27,672
which I have no
doubt that he is,
1125
00:48:27,672 --> 00:48:30,575
Harvey believed that he
was capable of everything.
1126
00:48:30,575 --> 00:48:33,678
He was a super
human, super power
1127
00:48:33,678 --> 00:48:37,182
who could do whatever
he wanted to,
1128
00:48:37,182 --> 00:48:38,716
and get away with it.
1129
00:48:38,716 --> 00:48:41,953
All you have to look at
is his initial statement
1130
00:48:41,953 --> 00:48:44,622
after the women bravely
came forward in the Times,
1131
00:48:44,622 --> 00:48:47,492
after the New York
Magazine piece exposed him
1132
00:48:47,492 --> 00:48:51,629
for being such a
horrendous monster.
1133
00:48:51,629 --> 00:48:55,333
He still thinks he's
gonna go to a quick trip
1134
00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:57,935
to Arizona sex rehab and be back
1135
00:48:57,935 --> 00:49:02,873
at the top of his game, no
understanding whatsoever.
1136
00:49:02,873 --> 00:49:06,611
- There is definitely
the appearance
1137
00:49:06,611 --> 00:49:09,547
that he is admitting to
something inappropriate.
1138
00:49:12,283 --> 00:49:13,518
Or he's doing it
'cause he thinks
1139
00:49:13,518 --> 00:49:17,422
he can just do a public
relations clean up,
1140
00:49:17,422 --> 00:49:19,124
that, "Okay, I'm gonna
go to this place.
1141
00:49:19,124 --> 00:49:20,358
"I'm going to admit my problem.
1142
00:49:20,358 --> 00:49:21,492
"I'm gonna come out
and tell everyone,
1143
00:49:21,492 --> 00:49:22,960
"look, I'm better now."
1144
00:49:25,463 --> 00:49:26,797
If I was a betting man,
1145
00:49:28,166 --> 00:49:30,468
I would bet on Harvey thinks
this is a great public
1146
00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:31,302
relations move,
1147
00:49:33,004 --> 00:49:35,773
and I don't think
it's gonna work
1148
00:49:35,773 --> 00:49:38,109
in any way, shape, or form.
1149
00:49:40,145 --> 00:49:41,946
Harvey is done.
1150
00:49:41,946 --> 00:49:44,482
Harvey's career in
Hollywood is over.
1151
00:49:44,482 --> 00:49:46,151
I don't know where
else Harvey can even
1152
00:49:46,151 --> 00:49:47,785
have a career
1153
00:49:47,785 --> 00:49:50,055
and now we're looking
at prosecutors
1154
00:49:50,055 --> 00:49:52,557
in several cities
around the world
1155
00:49:52,557 --> 00:49:55,060
who are looking into
these rape allegations
1156
00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:57,495
and are looking to bring
charges against him,
1157
00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:00,831
so if he is charged with rape,
1158
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:06,404
either to trial or he does
some sort of plea bargain,
1159
00:50:06,404 --> 00:50:10,975
he's looking at spending
many years in prison
1160
00:50:10,975 --> 00:50:13,144
if not the rest of his life.
1161
00:50:13,144 --> 00:50:15,913
(dramatic music)
1162
00:50:21,652 --> 00:50:23,020
- [Narrator] The
sheer number of people
1163
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:25,756
coming forward to share
their own experiences
1164
00:50:25,756 --> 00:50:27,758
at the hands of powerful
and dangerous men
1165
00:50:27,758 --> 00:50:30,027
in Hollywood shocked the world.
1166
00:50:31,496 --> 00:50:33,331
But to those in the industry,
1167
00:50:33,331 --> 00:50:36,734
this was nothing more than
a long awaited spotlight
1168
00:50:36,734 --> 00:50:38,969
shining light on a dark truth.
1169
00:50:40,705 --> 00:50:42,173
- The idea of the casting couch
1170
00:50:42,173 --> 00:50:44,075
and the recent allegations
that have come out
1171
00:50:44,075 --> 00:50:46,511
have not been shocking
to anyone in Hollywood.
1172
00:50:46,511 --> 00:50:49,114
Unfortunately, the extent
of some of the allegations
1173
00:50:49,114 --> 00:50:52,049
have been the most
surprising thing.
1174
00:50:52,049 --> 00:50:54,085
I think people knew
that it was not a very
1175
00:50:54,085 --> 00:50:56,387
well kept secret, that
actors and actresses
1176
00:50:56,387 --> 00:50:58,256
were propositioned by directors
1177
00:50:58,256 --> 00:51:00,091
or spoken to inappropriately,
1178
00:51:00,091 --> 00:51:03,394
however I don't believe
that the pervasiveness,
1179
00:51:03,394 --> 00:51:05,430
especially of the allegations
against Harvey Weinstein
1180
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:06,697
were known.
1181
00:51:06,697 --> 00:51:08,433
- The casting culture
has been around since
1182
00:51:08,433 --> 00:51:10,735
the beginning of castings.
1183
00:51:10,735 --> 00:51:14,405
I know everyone says
this, but it's true,
1184
00:51:14,405 --> 00:51:16,841
it's in every industry,
1185
00:51:16,841 --> 00:51:19,744
so we call it casting
here in Hollywood,
1186
00:51:19,744 --> 00:51:22,713
but in another industry,
they just call it applying
1187
00:51:22,713 --> 00:51:25,850
for a job, so it's really,
1188
00:51:25,850 --> 00:51:27,252
since the beginning of time,
1189
00:51:27,252 --> 00:51:29,454
since people had power
1190
00:51:29,454 --> 00:51:30,621
and there are other
people who wanna
1191
00:51:30,621 --> 00:51:32,290
be part of their world,
1192
00:51:32,290 --> 00:51:33,791
there are people out
there who take advantage
1193
00:51:33,791 --> 00:51:36,026
of that power, take
advantage of people
1194
00:51:36,026 --> 00:51:37,695
who want something so badly.
1195
00:51:38,863 --> 00:51:40,831
- The Hollywood casting
couch has been around
1196
00:51:40,831 --> 00:51:43,668
for as long as they've
been making movies.
1197
00:51:43,668 --> 00:51:45,636
This is a dynamic where you have
1198
00:51:45,636 --> 00:51:47,372
a lot of very powerful men
1199
00:51:47,372 --> 00:51:50,541
and a lot of very
young, beautiful women,
1200
00:51:50,541 --> 00:51:54,279
and it just has
naturally evolved
1201
00:51:54,279 --> 00:51:58,749
into a very dark and ugly,
predatory arrangement.
1202
00:51:58,749 --> 00:52:02,420
Going back all the way
to the big studio heads
1203
00:52:02,420 --> 00:52:05,690
who wielded unprecedented
power in Hollywood,
1204
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:07,792
these men preyed,
very frequently,
1205
00:52:07,792 --> 00:52:10,395
on young ingenue
starlet actresses
1206
00:52:10,395 --> 00:52:12,730
and, in fact, one
Hollywood mogul
1207
00:52:12,730 --> 00:52:16,167
even had an office
next to his main office
1208
00:52:16,167 --> 00:52:18,536
where he would audition
starlets every day
1209
00:52:18,536 --> 00:52:21,005
between four and 4:30 PM
1210
00:52:21,005 --> 00:52:23,174
and everybody knew
what audition meant.
1211
00:52:23,174 --> 00:52:26,244
You have very famous
stories of you actresses
1212
00:52:26,244 --> 00:52:29,847
like Shirley Temple,
who had an MGM producer
1213
00:52:29,847 --> 00:52:33,083
expose themself to her when
she was just 12 years old,
1214
00:52:33,083 --> 00:52:35,486
stories about Louis B.
Meyer who was running
1215
00:52:35,486 --> 00:52:37,788
the big Hollywood
studio at the time,
1216
00:52:37,788 --> 00:52:41,192
who was basically
feeling up Judy Garland
1217
00:52:41,192 --> 00:52:42,527
every time she would come in.
1218
00:52:42,527 --> 00:52:44,229
She was a young singer, actress,
1219
00:52:44,229 --> 00:52:46,431
and he would put his
hand on her breasts
1220
00:52:46,431 --> 00:52:49,133
and say, "This is
where you sing from.
1221
00:52:49,133 --> 00:52:50,401
"This is how you sing."
1222
00:52:50,401 --> 00:52:53,471
And he used it as an
excuse to molest her.
1223
00:52:53,471 --> 00:52:56,541
The stories that
have long been apart
1224
00:52:56,541 --> 00:52:58,276
of Hollywood folklore
1225
00:52:58,276 --> 00:53:00,278
are dark and ugly,
1226
00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:02,247
but it's only now, I think,
1227
00:53:02,247 --> 00:53:04,649
in recent times that
people are actually
1228
00:53:04,649 --> 00:53:07,051
calling these what they are,
1229
00:53:07,051 --> 00:53:10,321
which is sexual predation
and in some cases, rape.
1230
00:53:13,090 --> 00:53:16,294
The Hollywood casting couch
really is about power,
1231
00:53:16,294 --> 00:53:18,596
and you have a lot
of very powerful men
1232
00:53:18,596 --> 00:53:21,399
who are taking
advantage of that power.
1233
00:53:21,399 --> 00:53:23,200
We see it across all industries.
1234
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,002
You see it in
investment banking,
1235
00:53:25,002 --> 00:53:27,004
you see it in any industry where
1236
00:53:27,004 --> 00:53:29,507
there are a lot of men
in positions of power
1237
00:53:29,507 --> 00:53:31,742
and women who are not.
1238
00:53:31,742 --> 00:53:34,879
In the years between
something like 2006 and 2017
1239
00:53:34,879 --> 00:53:39,884
only 4% of Hollywood
directors were female,
1240
00:53:40,818 --> 00:53:42,420
and 80% of those
female directors
1241
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:44,188
only ever got to make one movie.
1242
00:53:45,923 --> 00:53:48,092
The balance of power in
Hollywood is massively skewed
1243
00:53:48,092 --> 00:53:51,228
in favor of men and anytime
1244
00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:54,031
you get a group of men
that are this powerful
1245
00:53:54,031 --> 00:53:57,034
and women who are
trying to break through,
1246
00:53:57,034 --> 00:53:59,337
there are always going
to be those bad apples
1247
00:53:59,337 --> 00:54:01,005
who use their position of power
1248
00:54:01,005 --> 00:54:02,873
in a way to abuse women.
1249
00:54:03,774 --> 00:54:06,511
(dramatic music)
1250
00:54:06,511 --> 00:54:07,745
- So we've seen other
cases in Hollywood
1251
00:54:07,745 --> 00:54:10,648
and these men have been
forgiven in some ways,
1252
00:54:10,648 --> 00:54:12,850
but I think people are
starting to reconsider
1253
00:54:12,850 --> 00:54:14,619
whether they should be forgiven.
1254
00:54:14,619 --> 00:54:16,521
You take a look at
the Roman Polanski,
1255
00:54:18,022 --> 00:54:21,258
he was convicted of
raping a 13 year old
1256
00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:23,528
and he had her under
the influence of alcohol
1257
00:54:23,528 --> 00:54:26,163
and drugs, he was charged
with sodomy and rape
1258
00:54:26,163 --> 00:54:28,499
and you have to sit
there and take a look,
1259
00:54:28,499 --> 00:54:31,302
he's clearly guilty and
he fled the country.
1260
00:54:31,302 --> 00:54:34,138
He did not want to
serve any jail time,
1261
00:54:34,138 --> 00:54:36,073
but he's still been able to work
1262
00:54:36,073 --> 00:54:37,475
in the entertainment industry,
1263
00:54:37,475 --> 00:54:39,477
and he's been
nominated for Oscars
1264
00:54:39,477 --> 00:54:42,613
and the actors will go
and fly over to Europe
1265
00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:43,814
and work with him,
1266
00:54:43,814 --> 00:54:45,883
so clearly there's some
sort of forgiveness
1267
00:54:45,883 --> 00:54:47,284
if you're okay with that,
1268
00:54:47,284 --> 00:54:49,119
and then you take a
look at Woody Allen,
1269
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,356
and again, A list
stars are always
1270
00:54:51,356 --> 00:54:53,758
willing to work with
Woody even though,
1271
00:54:53,758 --> 00:54:56,160
and we all know
this, that he went
1272
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,663
and had an affair
with his stepdaughter
1273
00:54:58,663 --> 00:55:00,197
who was under 18 at the time
1274
00:55:00,197 --> 00:55:01,832
and then it continued on until
1275
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,302
she was a legal age and
now they are married
1276
00:55:05,302 --> 00:55:06,604
and they have kids,
1277
00:55:06,604 --> 00:55:08,773
but come on, it's really creepy,
1278
00:55:08,773 --> 00:55:10,608
and on top of that,
he was then accused
1279
00:55:10,608 --> 00:55:15,413
of molesting another one
of his wife's siblings,
1280
00:55:15,413 --> 00:55:17,915
and it's really complicated
1281
00:55:17,915 --> 00:55:19,950
and it's gross and
everything else,
1282
00:55:19,950 --> 00:55:21,251
but again, actors aren't saying,
1283
00:55:21,251 --> 00:55:22,487
"You know what?
1284
00:55:22,487 --> 00:55:23,654
"I shouldn't be
working with him."
1285
00:55:23,654 --> 00:55:24,989
But now I think people
are really gonna
1286
00:55:24,989 --> 00:55:26,256
open their eyes.
1287
00:55:26,256 --> 00:55:27,492
- No one was immune.
1288
00:55:27,492 --> 00:55:30,695
Even Joan Collins, who
was famous at the time,
1289
00:55:30,695 --> 00:55:33,498
and was up the lead
part of Cleopatra.
1290
00:55:33,498 --> 00:55:35,933
Cleopatra, she was the
front runner for the role,
1291
00:55:35,933 --> 00:55:37,535
and she said the
director basically
1292
00:55:37,535 --> 00:55:39,670
said to her, "If you
really want this role,
1293
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:42,440
"you have to be nice to me."
1294
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,775
Which in the 1960s
meant have sex with me.
1295
00:55:44,775 --> 00:55:48,846
She didn't and she lost the
role to Elizabeth Taylor,
1296
00:55:48,846 --> 00:55:50,681
but no one is immune.
1297
00:55:50,681 --> 00:55:53,283
Helen Mirren talked
about how one particular
1298
00:55:53,283 --> 00:55:54,685
director, Michael
Winner, treated her
1299
00:55:54,685 --> 00:55:56,020
like a piece of meat.
1300
00:55:56,020 --> 00:56:00,391
You go from the most
prestigious powerful
1301
00:56:00,391 --> 00:56:01,826
respected leading lady
1302
00:56:01,826 --> 00:56:05,663
to the youngest ingenue
reality star starlet,
1303
00:56:05,663 --> 00:56:08,666
everyone at every level
seems to have experienced
1304
00:56:08,666 --> 00:56:11,268
something like this.
1305
00:56:11,268 --> 00:56:13,303
- One of the most famous cases
1306
00:56:13,303 --> 00:56:16,607
is Tippi Hedren and
director Alfred Hitchcock.
1307
00:56:16,607 --> 00:56:18,843
Now he was obsessed with her
1308
00:56:18,843 --> 00:56:21,278
and she was a part of his muses
1309
00:56:21,278 --> 00:56:23,648
that they were called
his icy blondes,
1310
00:56:23,648 --> 00:56:25,282
and I think what was interesting
1311
00:56:25,282 --> 00:56:27,418
is that in her book last year,
1312
00:56:27,418 --> 00:56:30,220
Tippi actually talked
about several incidents
1313
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:33,057
where he was sexually
harassing her,
1314
00:56:33,057 --> 00:56:34,659
he was sexually assaulting her,
1315
00:56:34,659 --> 00:56:37,194
and she was constantly
fending him off.
1316
00:56:37,194 --> 00:56:39,329
Oftentimes, he would
throw himself on her.
1317
00:56:39,329 --> 00:56:41,198
He would touch her
inappropriately,
1318
00:56:41,198 --> 00:56:42,433
and if she didn't respond,
1319
00:56:42,433 --> 00:56:44,735
he would not only
be mean to her,
1320
00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:46,303
actually downright cruel,
1321
00:56:46,303 --> 00:56:47,972
but he also told her one time,
1322
00:56:47,972 --> 00:56:49,707
"I'm going to ruin your career
1323
00:56:49,707 --> 00:56:51,476
"if you don't sleep with me."
1324
00:56:51,476 --> 00:56:54,411
And essentially,
that is what he did.
1325
00:56:54,411 --> 00:56:56,847
They were in the middle
of filming Marnie
1326
00:56:56,847 --> 00:56:58,048
when he told her that
1327
00:56:58,048 --> 00:56:59,950
and he basically didn't
talk to her anymore.
1328
00:56:59,950 --> 00:57:01,786
They finished the film,
1329
00:57:01,786 --> 00:57:04,288
but he made sure that
she never worked again
1330
00:57:04,288 --> 00:57:07,091
and remember, her whole
career was really started
1331
00:57:07,091 --> 00:57:08,325
thanks to Alfred Hitchcock
1332
00:57:08,325 --> 00:57:10,528
and he started it
and he ended it.
1333
00:57:10,528 --> 00:57:12,797
He had that much power.
1334
00:57:12,797 --> 00:57:14,765
- I think it's been going
on since man and woman
1335
00:57:14,765 --> 00:57:16,934
were put on this earth,
1336
00:57:16,934 --> 00:57:18,202
and I don't think
there's anything
1337
00:57:18,202 --> 00:57:19,770
that's going to stop it.
1338
00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:21,806
I think that was has to happen
1339
00:57:21,806 --> 00:57:25,910
is young people
have to be educated
1340
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:30,180
in what they can accept
1341
00:57:30,180 --> 00:57:32,349
or what they should accept,
1342
00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:33,484
what they shouldn't accept,
1343
00:57:34,652 --> 00:57:36,554
and it should be made
very clear for them.
1344
00:57:36,554 --> 00:57:38,989
Alfred Hitchcock told
me he'd ruin my career,
1345
00:57:40,424 --> 00:57:42,793
and I stood up and as I
was walking out the door,
1346
00:57:42,793 --> 00:57:44,929
I said, "Do what
you have to do."
1347
00:57:44,929 --> 00:57:47,998
And I think it was
the best door slamming
1348
00:57:47,998 --> 00:57:49,366
I've ever done.
1349
00:57:49,366 --> 00:57:51,301
This isn't unique to Hollywood.
1350
00:57:51,301 --> 00:57:53,638
It's just that Hollywood
is more glamorous
1351
00:57:53,638 --> 00:57:55,405
and it's more fun to talk about
1352
00:57:55,405 --> 00:57:58,208
when it's an actress
and a big producer,
1353
00:57:58,208 --> 00:58:00,945
and that makes a story.
1354
00:58:00,945 --> 00:58:05,315
That sort of activity
needs to be brought out
1355
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:09,186
and that there are
women who will say no
1356
00:58:09,186 --> 00:58:13,123
and you are absolutely wrong
in even attempting this,
1357
00:58:15,125 --> 00:58:18,729
and we have a right to act out
1358
00:58:18,729 --> 00:58:21,766
how we feel about
that kind of thing.
1359
00:58:24,669 --> 00:58:26,704
- [Interviewer] To women
who are wondering about
1360
00:58:26,704 --> 00:58:28,539
speaking out, what is
your message to them?
1361
00:58:28,539 --> 00:58:30,007
- Keep it up.
1362
00:58:30,007 --> 00:58:31,709
It's the only way
it's gonna stop.
1363
00:58:33,177 --> 00:58:34,912
You don't have to
put up with that.
1364
00:58:36,213 --> 00:58:39,149
There's a not a
reason in the world,
1365
00:58:39,149 --> 00:58:40,350
not a good one.
1366
00:58:41,251 --> 00:58:44,021
(dramatic music)
1367
00:58:45,089 --> 00:58:46,991
- More people come forward,
1368
00:58:46,991 --> 00:58:51,228
the more it's talked about,
1369
00:58:51,228 --> 00:58:54,899
the less victims
are going to feel
1370
00:58:54,899 --> 00:58:56,767
like they don't
have anywhere to go,
1371
00:58:56,767 --> 00:58:58,603
and now they can go somewhere,
1372
00:58:58,603 --> 00:59:02,907
it's not shameful,
it's not something
1373
00:59:02,907 --> 00:59:05,943
that's going to threaten
their entire lives.
1374
00:59:05,943 --> 00:59:07,144
That they could survive.
1375
00:59:08,512 --> 00:59:11,949
(dramatic music)
1376
00:59:11,949 --> 00:59:13,417
- [Narrator] The Me Too movement
1377
00:59:13,417 --> 00:59:16,453
has only been made
possible by social media
1378
00:59:16,453 --> 00:59:18,255
and even though
the movement began
1379
00:59:18,255 --> 00:59:20,858
in response to the
Weinstein allegations,
1380
00:59:20,858 --> 00:59:23,994
it has become a symbol
of strength and unity
1381
00:59:23,994 --> 00:59:27,031
to all those affected
by sexual abuse.
1382
00:59:27,031 --> 00:59:29,767
(dramatic music)
1383
00:59:31,235 --> 00:59:33,470
- So what was interesting
about all of these Harvey
1384
00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:37,274
stories is that it really
fueled a social media
1385
00:59:37,274 --> 00:59:40,444
frenzy with the hashtag me too,
1386
00:59:40,444 --> 00:59:44,048
and celebrity and TV
star Alyssa Milano
1387
00:59:44,048 --> 00:59:46,516
really came forward and
just started pushing
1388
00:59:46,516 --> 00:59:48,653
the hashtag and a lot of women
1389
00:59:48,653 --> 00:59:50,154
just started sharing
their stories
1390
00:59:50,154 --> 00:59:52,056
and saying, "This happened
to me when I was a kid.
1391
00:59:52,056 --> 00:59:53,490
"This happened to me in college.
1392
00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:55,159
"This happened to me last week."
1393
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:57,227
And it was amazing to see
1394
00:59:57,227 --> 00:59:59,363
that not only was it
happening in Hollywood,
1395
00:59:59,363 --> 01:00:00,665
it was happening in sports,
1396
01:00:00,665 --> 01:00:02,967
it was happening in
the tech industry,
1397
01:00:02,967 --> 01:00:04,669
it happens in politics.
1398
01:00:04,669 --> 01:00:07,104
It's not just limited
to Los Angeles.
1399
01:00:07,104 --> 01:00:08,873
It is happening
all over the place
1400
01:00:08,873 --> 01:00:11,008
and I think women
are starting to feel
1401
01:00:11,008 --> 01:00:12,509
okay about sharing
their stories.
1402
01:00:12,509 --> 01:00:13,678
There's no shame.
1403
01:00:13,678 --> 01:00:14,979
We're here to
support each other,
1404
01:00:14,979 --> 01:00:17,047
and I'm glad people
are paying attention.
1405
01:00:18,015 --> 01:00:20,117
(dramatic music)
1406
01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:22,552
I think what's helpful
in this situation
1407
01:00:22,552 --> 01:00:25,923
is social media has
been a big player
1408
01:00:25,923 --> 01:00:28,258
when it comes to
sharing these stories.
1409
01:00:28,258 --> 01:00:30,327
You realize that famous women
1410
01:00:30,327 --> 01:00:32,429
and not so famous
women, people from just
1411
01:00:32,429 --> 01:00:34,231
average walks of
life have experienced
1412
01:00:34,231 --> 01:00:35,700
the same exact thing
1413
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:37,234
and realizing
we're all the same,
1414
01:00:37,234 --> 01:00:41,171
and I think it's
really helped everyone
1415
01:00:41,171 --> 01:00:43,073
feel better about the situation
1416
01:00:43,073 --> 01:00:44,608
and then now take action
1417
01:00:44,608 --> 01:00:46,777
on how we're not going to
have this happen again,
1418
01:00:46,777 --> 01:00:48,278
and that's what we really saw
1419
01:00:48,278 --> 01:00:49,947
when it came to
that me too hashtag.
1420
01:00:49,947 --> 01:00:52,482
- It's life changing,
it's life changing,
1421
01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:54,318
and we create cultural content
1422
01:00:54,318 --> 01:00:55,886
and we know that we have
to get our own house
1423
01:00:55,886 --> 01:00:57,221
in order, our
representation of women
1424
01:00:57,221 --> 01:01:00,157
and people of color
and LGBTQ folks
1425
01:01:00,157 --> 01:01:03,527
is frankly still really poor
1426
01:01:03,527 --> 01:01:05,529
and there's a lot of
room for improvement,
1427
01:01:05,529 --> 01:01:07,965
and we have our 50
50 by 2020 push,
1428
01:01:07,965 --> 01:01:10,667
which is to have 50%
women and 50% men
1429
01:01:10,667 --> 01:01:14,872
across all positions
across our entire industry
1430
01:01:14,872 --> 01:01:18,709
including putting women in
positions of decision making,
1431
01:01:18,709 --> 01:01:20,878
and through our leadership,
1432
01:01:20,878 --> 01:01:22,479
we hope that the
rest of the country
1433
01:01:22,479 --> 01:01:25,249
continues to catch fire
with this revolution
1434
01:01:25,249 --> 01:01:27,885
of safer workspaces
for everyone.
1435
01:01:29,353 --> 01:01:32,489
(dramatic music)
1436
01:01:32,489 --> 01:01:34,792
- My greatest fear
was that it would be
1437
01:01:34,792 --> 01:01:37,561
a flash in the pan and we'd
move on to the next outrage
1438
01:01:37,561 --> 01:01:39,129
coming from the White House.
1439
01:01:39,129 --> 01:01:44,134
Instead, it really does
feel like something seismic
1440
01:01:45,335 --> 01:01:48,438
is happening in the way
we look at the balance
1441
01:01:48,438 --> 01:01:50,507
of power, the way
women are excluded
1442
01:01:50,507 --> 01:01:53,878
from most of the
areas of the decision
1443
01:01:53,878 --> 01:01:58,849
making level, in
government, in boardrooms,
1444
01:01:59,750 --> 01:02:02,286
in business, in the media,
1445
01:02:02,286 --> 01:02:06,490
and the abuses that fall
from that imbalance,
1446
01:02:06,490 --> 01:02:09,026
so that's what the
correction is gonna be.
1447
01:02:09,026 --> 01:02:10,227
It's going to be very messy.
1448
01:02:10,227 --> 01:02:14,098
Somebody said in
the Times Up group,
1449
01:02:14,098 --> 01:02:15,833
which I'm apart,
1450
01:02:15,833 --> 01:02:19,103
that we're building
the airplane as we're
1451
01:02:19,103 --> 01:02:21,705
taking it out down the runway,
1452
01:02:21,705 --> 01:02:25,009
and that's the mess of it,
1453
01:02:25,009 --> 01:02:28,678
but I think it's a really,
really valuable shift
1454
01:02:28,678 --> 01:02:31,215
that I feel happening.
1455
01:02:31,215 --> 01:02:32,149
- [Interviewer] What
about the backlash
1456
01:02:32,149 --> 01:02:34,151
against yourself, obviously?
1457
01:02:34,151 --> 01:02:37,855
After you made that speech
at the Golden Globes,
1458
01:02:37,855 --> 01:02:39,556
it's like you put your
head above the parapet.
1459
01:02:39,556 --> 01:02:41,058
People are gonna take aim,
1460
01:02:41,058 --> 01:02:42,626
and it feels like that's
what's happening with you
1461
01:02:42,626 --> 01:02:45,262
now, people saying, "Weinstein,
she must have known."
1462
01:02:46,663 --> 01:02:48,032
- Yes.
1463
01:02:48,032 --> 01:02:52,369
I think I'm taking the
hit for an entire group
1464
01:02:52,369 --> 01:02:57,374
of people who worked
with Harvey Weinstein,
1465
01:02:57,374 --> 01:02:58,642
but the people...
1466
01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:05,349
What's difficult about this
is that it precedes him,
1467
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:06,817
these abuses,
1468
01:03:06,817 --> 01:03:10,988
and there was Roger Ales
who ran the Fox Network,
1469
01:03:10,988 --> 01:03:15,993
there was Bill O'Reilly,
who Fox paid out
1470
01:03:17,661 --> 01:03:22,566
35 million dollars in
silence money to women
1471
01:03:22,566 --> 01:03:27,004
and sexual harassment suits.
1472
01:03:27,004 --> 01:03:31,641
In our country, the settlement
of a sexual harassment suit
1473
01:03:31,641 --> 01:03:33,710
is a legitimate tax deduction.
1474
01:03:34,879 --> 01:03:37,882
It's built into the
way of doing business.
1475
01:03:37,882 --> 01:03:39,716
This is outrageous,
1476
01:03:39,716 --> 01:03:43,620
and it is again, because
the balance of power
1477
01:03:43,620 --> 01:03:46,290
that's off, as for me taking--
1478
01:03:46,290 --> 01:03:47,524
- [Interviewer] But you
knew about these things,
1479
01:03:47,524 --> 01:03:49,526
you didn't know about
these things until now?
1480
01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:52,529
- Well, the specific, no.
1481
01:03:52,529 --> 01:03:54,098
We know that people are jerks.
1482
01:03:54,098 --> 01:03:55,866
We know that there's
a lot of people
1483
01:03:55,866 --> 01:03:57,101
that are assholes out there,
1484
01:03:57,101 --> 01:03:58,502
we know that there's
a lot of people
1485
01:03:58,502 --> 01:04:01,705
that utilize their
position and their gravitas
1486
01:04:01,705 --> 01:04:04,574
for something other, lot
of times it's riches,
1487
01:04:04,574 --> 01:04:06,576
a lot of times it's just
fun to be storytellers,
1488
01:04:06,576 --> 01:04:08,212
but a lot of times
it's been able
1489
01:04:08,212 --> 01:04:10,047
to take advantage of the people
1490
01:04:10,047 --> 01:04:13,017
who are powerless against you.
1491
01:04:13,017 --> 01:04:15,419
That's, without a doubt,
1492
01:04:15,419 --> 01:04:16,853
that's been part and pull,
1493
01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:18,122
and you hear stories
and you go like,
1494
01:04:18,122 --> 01:04:20,790
we all have joined
a circus here,
1495
01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:22,960
and in that circus,
there is going
1496
01:04:24,061 --> 01:04:25,429
to be all sorts of
inappropriate messages,
1497
01:04:25,429 --> 01:04:27,031
inappropriate behavior,
1498
01:04:27,031 --> 01:04:31,235
and some stuff downright
sexual predatory aspects of it.
1499
01:04:31,235 --> 01:04:33,403
What can come out of all this
1500
01:04:33,403 --> 01:04:36,506
is understanding,
look, sex and flirting
1501
01:04:36,506 --> 01:04:38,175
and whatever you wanna call it,
1502
01:04:38,175 --> 01:04:41,045
affairs of the flesh are
never going to go away,
1503
01:04:41,045 --> 01:04:43,513
but what can go hand
in hand with that
1504
01:04:43,513 --> 01:04:46,516
is the parody that
where you work
1505
01:04:46,516 --> 01:04:49,353
actually reflects the
rest of the world,
1506
01:04:49,353 --> 01:04:51,488
that it's not one
gender having control
1507
01:04:51,488 --> 01:04:56,493
proportionally, when
in fact it should be
1508
01:04:57,227 --> 01:04:58,695
somewhere around 50 50
1509
01:04:58,695 --> 01:05:00,664
and when it is 50 50,
1510
01:05:00,664 --> 01:05:02,232
I think there's gonna
be board members
1511
01:05:02,232 --> 01:05:03,733
who are gonna say,
1512
01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:06,370
"We are paying out millions
of dollars for what exactly?"
1513
01:05:06,370 --> 01:05:07,837
And then you're gonna see--
- Won't happen.
1514
01:05:07,837 --> 01:05:09,306
- And then you're
gonna see a difference.
1515
01:05:09,306 --> 01:05:10,874
- [Interviewer] If you
were on the set together
1516
01:05:10,874 --> 01:05:13,110
and you wanted to put
your arm round Meryl,
1517
01:05:13,110 --> 01:05:14,611
you know each other
really well as friends,
1518
01:05:14,611 --> 01:05:16,546
put your arm around
Meryl's shoulder,
1519
01:05:16,546 --> 01:05:18,248
touch her on the knee,
1520
01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:20,350
are you thinking twice
about things like that?
1521
01:05:20,350 --> 01:05:22,119
It works both ways,
of course, doesn't it?
1522
01:05:22,119 --> 01:05:24,521
This is the debate
that's going on now.
1523
01:05:24,521 --> 01:05:25,990
- Yeah.
1524
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:27,624
Yeah.
1525
01:05:27,624 --> 01:05:30,427
No, I wouldn't think
twice about it,
1526
01:05:30,427 --> 01:05:34,898
and also, with actors, it's
a very different thing.
1527
01:05:34,898 --> 01:05:37,767
Tom's not employing me.
1528
01:05:37,767 --> 01:05:39,236
It's a different thing
1529
01:05:39,236 --> 01:05:44,208
when there's an imbalance
in the power dynamic.
1530
01:05:45,075 --> 01:05:46,676
If somebody's somebody's boss
1531
01:05:46,676 --> 01:05:50,814
or potentially a woman
is trying to get a job,
1532
01:05:50,814 --> 01:05:53,317
it's a very, very
different thing.
1533
01:05:53,317 --> 01:05:57,821
In the United States,
there was a newscaster
1534
01:05:57,821 --> 01:05:59,523
who had a button under his desk
1535
01:05:59,523 --> 01:06:01,391
that would lock the door
1536
01:06:01,391 --> 01:06:06,396
when his young women
interns would come in.
1537
01:06:07,531 --> 01:06:11,935
These are abuses beyond
imagining, honestly,
1538
01:06:13,103 --> 01:06:14,704
and shouldn't be
in the workplace.
1539
01:06:14,704 --> 01:06:17,207
Everybody deserves a workplace
1540
01:06:17,207 --> 01:06:19,709
that's respectful and safe.
1541
01:06:19,709 --> 01:06:21,778
That's the simplest piece of it.
1542
01:06:24,114 --> 01:06:25,682
- Well, first of all, can I say
1543
01:06:26,850 --> 01:06:28,085
I think that the women
who've come forward
1544
01:06:28,085 --> 01:06:30,754
and talked about
their experiences
1545
01:06:30,754 --> 01:06:32,256
in relation to this individual
1546
01:06:32,256 --> 01:06:33,990
have been very brave to do so
1547
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:36,193
and I commend them
for doing that.
1548
01:06:36,193 --> 01:06:38,462
We have an independent body
1549
01:06:38,462 --> 01:06:41,165
here in the UK that
looks at these issues
1550
01:06:41,165 --> 01:06:42,666
that will look into the issue
1551
01:06:42,666 --> 01:06:46,336
as to whether his honor
should be taken from him.
1552
01:06:46,336 --> 01:06:48,105
They will do that independently,
1553
01:06:48,105 --> 01:06:50,207
and I think we just let
them get on with that job.
1554
01:06:50,207 --> 01:06:52,576
- What's interesting is
I hear a lot of people
1555
01:06:52,576 --> 01:06:54,844
saying when speaking
about girl's empowerment,
1556
01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:57,214
finding and knowing their worth,
1557
01:06:57,214 --> 01:06:58,715
or women's empowerment as well,
1558
01:06:58,715 --> 01:07:00,617
you'll often hear people say,
1559
01:07:00,617 --> 01:07:02,619
"You're helping women
find their voices."
1560
01:07:02,619 --> 01:07:04,354
And I fundamentally
disagree with that
1561
01:07:04,354 --> 01:07:06,856
because women don't
need to find the voice.
1562
01:07:06,856 --> 01:07:08,092
They have a voice.
1563
01:07:08,092 --> 01:07:09,759
They need to feel
empowered to use it,
1564
01:07:09,759 --> 01:07:11,628
and people need to be
encouraged to listen,
1565
01:07:11,628 --> 01:07:13,363
and I think right
now in the climate
1566
01:07:13,363 --> 01:07:16,266
that we're seeing
so many campaigns,
1567
01:07:16,266 --> 01:07:18,402
Me Too and Times Up,
1568
01:07:18,402 --> 01:07:19,903
there is no better time
1569
01:07:19,903 --> 01:07:21,971
than to really continue
to shine a light
1570
01:07:21,971 --> 01:07:24,641
on women feeling empowered
1571
01:07:24,641 --> 01:07:26,576
and people really
helping to support them,
1572
01:07:26,576 --> 01:07:28,545
men included in that,
1573
01:07:28,545 --> 01:07:30,847
I mean, it makes such a
tremendous difference.
1574
01:07:32,316 --> 01:07:34,184
- I think the good
thing that is happening
1575
01:07:34,184 --> 01:07:35,785
with the Harvey
Weinstein situation
1576
01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:38,955
is the fact that it is
going to be a domino effect.
1577
01:07:38,955 --> 01:07:40,890
We are going to see
women finally saying,
1578
01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:42,892
"You know what, I'm not
going to accept this.
1579
01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:45,562
"I'm gonna tell people
about what happened to me
1580
01:07:45,562 --> 01:07:47,597
"so they can learn
from that experience."
1581
01:07:47,597 --> 01:07:49,199
And we have seen
that start to happen
1582
01:07:49,199 --> 01:07:51,568
with Kevin Spacey,
we've seen allegations
1583
01:07:51,568 --> 01:07:53,069
against even Ben Affleck,
1584
01:07:53,069 --> 01:07:57,641
we've seen allegations against
Bryan Singer, the director,
1585
01:07:57,641 --> 01:07:59,843
and we are starting to see,
1586
01:07:59,843 --> 01:08:01,077
it's like a house of cards,
1587
01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:03,747
it just literally is
starting to fall away,
1588
01:08:03,747 --> 01:08:07,351
and we've heard like
five, six, seven stories.
1589
01:08:07,351 --> 01:08:09,119
I think there's a
lot more to come.
1590
01:08:11,355 --> 01:08:13,757
- He might be exceptional
in terms of the years
1591
01:08:14,958 --> 01:08:16,092
and the number of
women he targeted,
1592
01:08:16,092 --> 01:08:17,494
but this is a
culture in Hollywood.
1593
01:08:17,494 --> 01:08:20,630
It extends well beyond
Harvey Weinstein.
1594
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:22,666
There are dozens of
other Harvey Weinsteins
1595
01:08:22,666 --> 01:08:24,100
in Hollywood.
1596
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:25,335
(dramatic music)
1597
01:08:25,335 --> 01:08:27,537
- Look, for every story
about Gwyneth Paltrow
1598
01:08:27,537 --> 01:08:29,973
or Charlize Theron
being sexually harassed,
1599
01:08:29,973 --> 01:08:31,575
there are also stories
1600
01:08:31,575 --> 01:08:34,678
about all very, very
famous leading men
1601
01:08:34,678 --> 01:08:36,079
also being harassed.
1602
01:08:36,079 --> 01:08:37,881
A lot of them
haven't come forward
1603
01:08:37,881 --> 01:08:40,184
so I can't name their names,
1604
01:08:40,184 --> 01:08:42,919
but I can talk about Kevin
Spacey and Anthony Rapp.
1605
01:08:42,919 --> 01:08:45,522
Anthony Rapp is a young actor,
1606
01:08:45,522 --> 01:08:48,258
was at the time, in
particular on stage
1607
01:08:48,258 --> 01:08:50,026
who worked with Kevin Spacey,
1608
01:08:50,026 --> 01:08:51,761
when Kevin Spacey,
according to him,
1609
01:08:51,761 --> 01:08:52,962
tried to seduce him.
1610
01:08:54,631 --> 01:08:57,567
Anthony Rapp was one of
the first, very brave men
1611
01:08:57,567 --> 01:08:59,803
to come forward and say
it's not just women,
1612
01:08:59,803 --> 01:09:01,238
this happened to me.
1613
01:09:01,238 --> 01:09:03,139
I think there are a lot of men
1614
01:09:03,139 --> 01:09:05,942
who are straight, who are
living as straight men
1615
01:09:05,942 --> 01:09:09,846
who have been preyed
upon by other men
1616
01:09:09,846 --> 01:09:13,183
in the industry but because
of perhaps embarrassment
1617
01:09:13,183 --> 01:09:17,153
or confusion or not
wanting to come out
1618
01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:19,389
as having had a gay
sexual experience
1619
01:09:19,389 --> 01:09:21,691
with a man in power,
1620
01:09:21,691 --> 01:09:24,761
it has caused a certain
reluctance on their part.
1621
01:09:24,761 --> 01:09:26,730
Perhaps they feel
they have more to lose
1622
01:09:26,730 --> 01:09:29,666
in terms of their public image
1623
01:09:29,666 --> 01:09:33,903
to admit that they slept
with a powerful male producer
1624
01:09:33,903 --> 01:09:35,872
or director in order
to get a film role,
1625
01:09:35,872 --> 01:09:40,076
but virtually all, quite
a few of our most famous
1626
01:09:40,076 --> 01:09:44,013
leading men have been
harassed as well.
1627
01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:46,683
- The fact that
somebody that powerful,
1628
01:09:46,683 --> 01:09:48,418
his career has been
completely ruined,
1629
01:09:48,418 --> 01:09:50,487
and I think that's
a real message
1630
01:09:50,487 --> 01:09:53,290
to anybody who would
behave like this,
1631
01:09:53,290 --> 01:09:58,295
and I think that social media
1632
01:09:59,463 --> 01:10:00,764
has given everybody a
voice and a platform
1633
01:10:00,764 --> 01:10:03,900
and everyone realizes
that they're not alone
1634
01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:05,435
and women realize
that they're not alone
1635
01:10:05,435 --> 01:10:07,304
and that their voice matters
and their voice can be heard
1636
01:10:07,304 --> 01:10:11,140
and that means behavior's
going to change.
1637
01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:12,709
- We've seen the
Bill Cosby stories,
1638
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:14,811
we've the president of
the United States tell us
1639
01:10:14,811 --> 01:10:16,079
exactly what he does,
1640
01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:18,515
we've seen this go
on and on and on,
1641
01:10:18,515 --> 01:10:19,983
and I think we have to
get to the point where
1642
01:10:19,983 --> 01:10:21,951
maybe this is it, maybe this
is the watershed moment,
1643
01:10:21,951 --> 01:10:23,520
where we believe women,
1644
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,022
where they feel safe,
that they can talk about
1645
01:10:26,022 --> 01:10:28,692
what they're experiencing.
1646
01:10:28,692 --> 01:10:29,626
- So we've heard a lot of people
1647
01:10:29,626 --> 01:10:31,127
from the industry talk about it,
1648
01:10:31,127 --> 01:10:35,031
recently we had both Matt
Damon and George Clooney
1649
01:10:35,031 --> 01:10:36,733
talking about the situation.
1650
01:10:36,733 --> 01:10:38,835
They've both worked with
him in different capacities
1651
01:10:38,835 --> 01:10:41,538
over the years and
Matt really owes
1652
01:10:41,538 --> 01:10:44,808
the beginning of his
career to Harvey Weinstein,
1653
01:10:44,808 --> 01:10:48,478
and he said, "I didn't
know this was going on
1654
01:10:48,478 --> 01:10:50,847
"and it's shocking in some ways,
1655
01:10:50,847 --> 01:10:52,482
"but I have to make
sure that I'm protecting
1656
01:10:52,482 --> 01:10:54,451
"the actresses around me
1657
01:10:54,451 --> 01:10:57,153
"and I don't condone this
behavior or anything else
1658
01:10:57,153 --> 01:10:59,389
"like that and I don't
wanna be apart of it."
1659
01:10:59,389 --> 01:11:01,157
And I think for George
Clooney, he said,
1660
01:11:01,157 --> 01:11:03,059
"I did hear stories.
1661
01:11:03,059 --> 01:11:04,294
"Harvey would tell me stories
1662
01:11:04,294 --> 01:11:05,929
"about some of my
female friends,
1663
01:11:05,929 --> 01:11:08,398
"and he said that he
had slept with them.
1664
01:11:08,398 --> 01:11:10,066
"I just didn't think
that they would do that
1665
01:11:10,066 --> 01:11:11,568
"and I didn't believe them,
1666
01:11:11,568 --> 01:11:13,303
"but in the long run,
I should have been
1667
01:11:13,303 --> 01:11:15,772
"more proactive about
calling him out on that
1668
01:11:15,772 --> 01:11:17,907
"or making sure that my
friends were protected."
1669
01:11:17,907 --> 01:11:20,276
And so we're seeing
A list celebrities
1670
01:11:20,276 --> 01:11:21,811
willing to speak out
1671
01:11:21,811 --> 01:11:24,414
although everybody's wondering
1672
01:11:24,414 --> 01:11:25,949
what Uma Thurman has.
1673
01:11:25,949 --> 01:11:27,817
She recently spoke and said,
1674
01:11:27,817 --> 01:11:30,354
"I'm too angry
right now to speak."
1675
01:11:30,354 --> 01:11:33,623
And she worked
extensively with Harvey,
1676
01:11:33,623 --> 01:11:36,326
so I don't know whether
she has a personal story
1677
01:11:36,326 --> 01:11:38,828
or she knows of
things that happened,
1678
01:11:38,828 --> 01:11:40,864
but she certainly,
1679
01:11:40,864 --> 01:11:42,098
when she's ready to talk,
1680
01:11:42,098 --> 01:11:43,700
I think everyone's
ready to listen.
1681
01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:45,402
- So I've been waiting
1682
01:11:46,536 --> 01:11:47,771
to feel less angry,
1683
01:11:48,872 --> 01:11:49,806
and when I'm ready,
1684
01:11:50,707 --> 01:11:52,476
I'll say what I have to say.
1685
01:11:54,744 --> 01:11:56,480
- [Narrator] It would
only be months later
1686
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:59,048
when she was able
to share her story.
1687
01:11:59,048 --> 01:12:02,786
According to Thurman in
1994, London Savoy hotel,
1688
01:12:02,786 --> 01:12:04,721
Harvey Weinstein pushed her down
1689
01:12:04,721 --> 01:12:07,323
and tried to force
himself upon her.
1690
01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:11,027
She said, "He did all
kinds of unpleasant things
1691
01:12:11,027 --> 01:12:13,229
"but he didn't actually
put his back into it
1692
01:12:13,229 --> 01:12:14,798
"and forced me.
1693
01:12:14,798 --> 01:12:18,835
"You're like an animal
wriggling away, like a lizard."
1694
01:12:18,835 --> 01:12:21,204
She said a bunch of flowers
arrived the next day
1695
01:12:21,204 --> 01:12:22,672
with the note reading,
1696
01:12:22,672 --> 01:12:24,708
"You have great instincts."
1697
01:12:27,511 --> 01:12:29,579
- To check what we say,
1698
01:12:29,579 --> 01:12:32,749
how we say it, who we say it to
1699
01:12:32,749 --> 01:12:35,685
is to put that in the spotlight
1700
01:12:35,685 --> 01:12:36,520
is a good thing.
1701
01:12:37,954 --> 01:12:42,959
And as Dylan said, the
times they are a changing.
1702
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,664
- It started a few weeks
before the Golden Globes
1703
01:12:47,664 --> 01:12:51,801
in 2018, we started
hearing that actresses,
1704
01:12:51,801 --> 01:12:53,803
stylists, were pulling black.
1705
01:12:53,803 --> 01:12:56,172
There was a full page ad
in one of the Hollywood
1706
01:12:56,172 --> 01:12:59,676
magazines, trade
magazines, that said,
1707
01:12:59,676 --> 01:13:01,911
we're wearing black as
a sign of solidarity.
1708
01:13:01,911 --> 01:13:03,580
Hashtag times up,
1709
01:13:03,580 --> 01:13:06,950
Times Up is the
statement being made
1710
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:10,186
that we will no longer
tolerate sexual predation.
1711
01:13:10,186 --> 01:13:12,155
We will no longer
tolerate sexual abuse.
1712
01:13:12,155 --> 01:13:14,624
Your time is up as a predator,
1713
01:13:14,624 --> 01:13:18,928
so in solidarity, we had
virtually every actress
1714
01:13:18,928 --> 01:13:21,397
in Hollywood wearing black,
1715
01:13:21,397 --> 01:13:25,702
black dresses as a way to
show that they were united
1716
01:13:25,702 --> 01:13:29,506
against the abuses
that had been going on.
1717
01:13:29,506 --> 01:13:31,240
Everyone was there
to make a statement
1718
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,977
about times up, this is over,
1719
01:13:33,977 --> 01:13:36,513
and then of course, you
have Natalie Portman
1720
01:13:36,513 --> 01:13:38,314
on stage announcing the nominees
1721
01:13:38,314 --> 01:13:42,486
for best director, and
she pauses and says,
1722
01:13:42,486 --> 01:13:47,223
"And here are the all male
nominees for best director."
1723
01:13:47,223 --> 01:13:49,392
It was a very powerful moment
1724
01:13:49,392 --> 01:13:51,461
and the reason is,
what Natalie Portman
1725
01:13:51,461 --> 01:13:53,897
was alluding to is
the real problem.
1726
01:13:53,897 --> 01:13:55,965
The real problem is that
there are so few women
1727
01:13:55,965 --> 01:13:58,568
at the table in Hollywood.
1728
01:13:58,568 --> 01:14:00,937
There are so few women
in positions of power
1729
01:14:00,937 --> 01:14:02,171
behind the scenes.
1730
01:14:02,171 --> 01:14:05,642
It's still very much a
male dominated industry
1731
01:14:05,642 --> 01:14:07,611
where women don't have a voice,
1732
01:14:07,611 --> 01:14:09,746
and as long as women
don't have a voice,
1733
01:14:09,746 --> 01:14:12,782
there are always going
to be abuses of power.
1734
01:14:14,484 --> 01:14:16,820
- I think everyone is
going to be talking about
1735
01:14:18,321 --> 01:14:19,155
this moment tonight
1736
01:14:20,323 --> 01:14:22,158
and we are amplifying
what a lot of people
1737
01:14:22,158 --> 01:14:25,562
have been working for in
the country a long time
1738
01:14:25,562 --> 01:14:26,763
for social justice
1739
01:14:26,763 --> 01:14:29,365
and I think because
we're Hollywood
1740
01:14:29,365 --> 01:14:30,600
and we're in the spotlight,
1741
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,369
sometimes I feel like
we have a responsibility
1742
01:14:33,369 --> 01:14:35,371
to address issues and especially
1743
01:14:35,371 --> 01:14:37,707
in light of what just
happened last year
1744
01:14:37,707 --> 01:14:39,676
and all these brave
women coming forward
1745
01:14:39,676 --> 01:14:40,677
and telling their stories
1746
01:14:40,677 --> 01:14:42,946
about harassment
and sexual abuse
1747
01:14:42,946 --> 01:14:44,480
in the workplace.
1748
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:46,616
- This is just the beginning
of people talking about it,
1749
01:14:46,616 --> 01:14:48,918
talking on a red carpet
about such things,
1750
01:14:50,019 --> 01:14:51,688
there's gotta be a good move.
1751
01:14:53,422 --> 01:14:56,325
- What's so hopeful
is that the fact
1752
01:14:56,325 --> 01:14:58,728
that women now are speaking up.
1753
01:14:58,728 --> 01:15:00,329
They're going on
Twitter and saying,
1754
01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:01,665
"This happened to me."
1755
01:15:01,665 --> 01:15:03,633
Is giving a lot of men pause.
1756
01:15:03,633 --> 01:15:05,234
I was told that Leo DiCaprio,
1757
01:15:05,234 --> 01:15:09,606
who's famous for his love
of very young models,
1758
01:15:09,606 --> 01:15:12,508
has been extra
careful as of late
1759
01:15:12,508 --> 01:15:14,177
in social situations
1760
01:15:14,177 --> 01:15:16,279
when he tries to
pick up young girls
1761
01:15:16,279 --> 01:15:18,314
because he's now over 40
1762
01:15:18,314 --> 01:15:22,719
and very powerful and
even actors like DiCaprio
1763
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:26,890
who are in this
Lothario category
1764
01:15:26,890 --> 01:15:29,292
are changing behavior
because they don't want
1765
01:15:29,292 --> 01:15:32,061
to be accused of something
later on down the line.
1766
01:15:32,061 --> 01:15:35,298
I do think behavior will
change, is changing.
1767
01:15:35,298 --> 01:15:38,067
The real work that
has to be done
1768
01:15:38,067 --> 01:15:41,337
is giving women more of
a voice in Hollywood.
1769
01:15:41,337 --> 01:15:43,439
I don't think until
women have more power
1770
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,208
it's ever gonna go away,
1771
01:15:45,208 --> 01:15:46,710
but I do think
there's an awful lot
1772
01:15:46,710 --> 01:15:50,413
of very nervous men in
Hollywood at the moment.
1773
01:15:51,581 --> 01:15:54,784
The day that the Harvey
Weinstein story broke,
1774
01:15:54,784 --> 01:15:58,121
you could literally hear
the men in Hollywood
1775
01:15:58,121 --> 01:16:00,757
picking up their phone
and calling their lawyers
1776
01:16:00,757 --> 01:16:04,227
and saying, "How much
trouble am I in?"
1777
01:16:04,227 --> 01:16:07,230
It caused a ripple
effect of fear
1778
01:16:07,230 --> 01:16:11,901
and panic amongst
Hollywood moguls
1779
01:16:11,901 --> 01:16:14,838
and agents and
managers who had abused
1780
01:16:14,838 --> 01:16:18,307
and continued to
abuse their power
1781
01:16:18,307 --> 01:16:20,276
with their leading ladies.
1782
01:16:20,276 --> 01:16:23,046
(dramatic music)
1783
01:16:27,684 --> 01:16:29,753
There are, of course,
a lot of women
1784
01:16:29,753 --> 01:16:32,956
who agreed to the terms
that Harvey Weinstein
1785
01:16:32,956 --> 01:16:34,523
and other men like him set out,
1786
01:16:34,523 --> 01:16:37,727
and they used it to
advance their careers.
1787
01:16:37,727 --> 01:16:40,263
I think a lot of those
women are silent now
1788
01:16:40,263 --> 01:16:42,565
or they're speaking
out about the fact
1789
01:16:42,565 --> 01:16:46,636
that they were forced
into the situation.
1790
01:16:46,636 --> 01:16:49,338
It's certainly true
that this game,
1791
01:16:49,338 --> 01:16:51,607
this negotiation, I should say,
1792
01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:54,210
of sexual favors in
exchange for power,
1793
01:16:54,210 --> 01:16:56,412
has been going on and
continues to go on
1794
01:16:56,412 --> 01:16:57,781
in every industry.
1795
01:16:57,781 --> 01:17:00,049
I think in Hollywood,
it's so public
1796
01:17:00,049 --> 01:17:01,851
and it's so abused
and it's so common
1797
01:17:01,851 --> 01:17:05,889
and now, obviously, so exposed.
1798
01:17:05,889 --> 01:17:08,057
I think for a lot of women,
1799
01:17:08,057 --> 01:17:10,426
Harvey Weinstein
preyed, manipulated,
1800
01:17:10,426 --> 01:17:12,061
and forced himself on them
1801
01:17:12,061 --> 01:17:15,564
and in the confusion and
the pain and the trauma
1802
01:17:15,564 --> 01:17:17,266
of the aftermath,
1803
01:17:17,266 --> 01:17:19,669
some continued to
be his girlfriend,
1804
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:23,673
some continued to have a
sexual relationship with him,
1805
01:17:23,673 --> 01:17:25,975
but I think psychologically
1806
01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:27,410
there's a lot at play there,
1807
01:17:27,410 --> 01:17:29,312
but it could be that it's easier
1808
01:17:29,312 --> 01:17:32,682
to believe that the
man who abused you
1809
01:17:32,682 --> 01:17:36,085
was your boyfriend, you just
hadn't started dating yet
1810
01:17:36,085 --> 01:17:37,787
than it is to
acknowledge the fact
1811
01:17:37,787 --> 01:17:39,155
that you were raped.
1812
01:17:39,155 --> 01:17:41,024
That someone forced
himself on you,
1813
01:17:41,024 --> 01:17:43,492
and I think for
some of these women
1814
01:17:43,492 --> 01:17:44,861
who seem quite vulnerable,
1815
01:17:44,861 --> 01:17:48,732
once Harvey has assaulted them,
1816
01:17:48,732 --> 01:17:50,166
they convinced themselves
1817
01:17:50,166 --> 01:17:52,101
that there was a
relationship there
1818
01:17:52,101 --> 01:17:55,338
in a way to help
their own self esteem
1819
01:17:55,338 --> 01:17:58,842
and self worth and a way
to handle the situation
1820
01:17:58,842 --> 01:18:00,476
which would have
been very traumatic,
1821
01:18:00,476 --> 01:18:03,146
and a way to justify
perhaps what they felt
1822
01:18:03,146 --> 01:18:04,480
was their own guilt and shame,
1823
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:06,049
which they shouldn't have had,
1824
01:18:06,049 --> 01:18:07,951
but is normal to have,
1825
01:18:08,952 --> 01:18:10,686
and their dirtiness about it.
1826
01:18:10,686 --> 01:18:13,456
They felt and they
wanted to make themselves
1827
01:18:13,456 --> 01:18:14,590
feel better and so they went on
1828
01:18:14,590 --> 01:18:16,559
to have a relationship with him,
1829
01:18:16,559 --> 01:18:20,063
but it doesn't change the fact
1830
01:18:20,063 --> 01:18:21,831
that they were abused,
they were assaulted,
1831
01:18:21,831 --> 01:18:23,032
they were preyed upon.
1832
01:18:23,032 --> 01:18:25,134
Whatever happened after that
1833
01:18:25,134 --> 01:18:26,402
doesn't negate the fact
1834
01:18:26,402 --> 01:18:28,972
that what he did was wrong.
1835
01:18:30,273 --> 01:18:33,042
(dramatic music)
1836
01:18:38,915 --> 01:18:42,218
- Hopefully, it's an end to
this whole culture of fear
1837
01:18:42,218 --> 01:18:46,489
and the abuse of actresses
1838
01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:49,392
and I think the story,
1839
01:18:49,392 --> 01:18:50,626
I'm sure more is to come out,
1840
01:18:50,626 --> 01:18:54,263
because if actresses
lived under this fear
1841
01:18:54,263 --> 01:18:56,532
that their career
might be affected,
1842
01:18:56,532 --> 01:18:57,767
then that clearly indicates
1843
01:18:57,767 --> 01:18:59,168
it's not just that one person.
1844
01:18:59,168 --> 01:19:01,537
There must have
been other people.
1845
01:19:01,537 --> 01:19:03,372
There must have been
a group of people
1846
01:19:03,372 --> 01:19:08,377
to be able to represent
that level of fear.
1847
01:19:10,947 --> 01:19:13,082
I hope also it means that people
1848
01:19:13,082 --> 01:19:17,854
now are much more confident
about speaking out,
1849
01:19:17,854 --> 01:19:19,222
and that's not just women,
1850
01:19:19,222 --> 01:19:20,756
that's men as well,
1851
01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:24,693
men who's women friends have
told them about an incident,
1852
01:19:24,693 --> 01:19:26,762
something that men have
to speak out as well.
1853
01:19:26,762 --> 01:19:28,664
- It feels disheartening,
1854
01:19:28,664 --> 01:19:29,565
the whole time
feels disheartening,
1855
01:19:30,733 --> 01:19:31,667
seeing it all the
time on television,
1856
01:19:31,667 --> 01:19:33,202
everything, it's oppressive.
1857
01:19:33,202 --> 01:19:36,539
It's good because I think
it's catalyst for change.
1858
01:19:36,539 --> 01:19:38,842
I think anger's a great
catalyst for change,
1859
01:19:38,842 --> 01:19:42,145
and being in reality about
what's really going on
1860
01:19:42,145 --> 01:19:43,679
is really healthy.
1861
01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:44,814
We're not always
all able to do it,
1862
01:19:44,814 --> 01:19:45,915
'cause we look at it sometimes,
1863
01:19:45,915 --> 01:19:47,817
it's like, terrifying.
1864
01:19:47,817 --> 01:19:49,752
- Who knew this movement
would take place?
1865
01:19:49,752 --> 01:19:53,456
It was very much necessary
1866
01:19:53,456 --> 01:19:55,158
and a long time coming,
1867
01:19:56,492 --> 01:19:58,361
and when we were making it,
1868
01:19:58,361 --> 01:19:59,829
I definitely felt like,
1869
01:19:59,829 --> 01:20:02,098
"Wow, this is a really
great girl power message."
1870
01:20:02,098 --> 01:20:03,867
And that was the term
that was being used,
1871
01:20:03,867 --> 01:20:05,734
when we were making
it, girl power.
1872
01:20:05,734 --> 01:20:07,436
- My heart goes out to anyone
1873
01:20:07,436 --> 01:20:09,939
who suffered through
that kind of experience
1874
01:20:09,939 --> 01:20:12,842
and abuse and I hope,
1875
01:20:12,842 --> 01:20:16,779
I'm thankful that women
who suffered through that
1876
01:20:16,779 --> 01:20:17,947
have their voices heard
1877
01:20:20,083 --> 01:20:22,886
and as a community we
can come together and say
1878
01:20:22,886 --> 01:20:24,420
that's not socially acceptable,
1879
01:20:24,420 --> 01:20:26,689
and we're not gonna stand
for that kind of behavior
1880
01:20:26,689 --> 01:20:28,157
and put a stop to it.
1881
01:20:29,358 --> 01:20:31,260
- All the stuff's
being revealed now
1882
01:20:31,260 --> 01:20:33,429
and now we have
to make a decision
1883
01:20:33,429 --> 01:20:35,131
about who are going forward,
1884
01:20:35,999 --> 01:20:37,333
and it isn't just about women,
1885
01:20:37,333 --> 01:20:39,768
it's about white
supremacy, it's about race.
1886
01:20:42,405 --> 01:20:44,073
It's a new time,
1887
01:20:44,073 --> 01:20:45,708
and we all gotta stick together,
1888
01:20:45,708 --> 01:20:47,743
we all gotta cross
our comfort zones,
1889
01:20:47,743 --> 01:20:49,378
we all gotta speak
up for each other,
1890
01:20:49,378 --> 01:20:50,813
if we wanna change the world.
1891
01:20:50,813 --> 01:20:52,348
If we don't wanna
change the world,
1892
01:20:52,348 --> 01:20:54,350
then we stay silent and quiet
1893
01:20:54,350 --> 01:20:56,152
and let the secrets persist
1894
01:20:56,152 --> 01:20:58,922
and everything will stay the
way it's going right now.
1895
01:20:58,922 --> 01:21:01,891
- It's women's minds,
women's bodies,
1896
01:21:01,891 --> 01:21:03,893
and so they have
control of that,
1897
01:21:03,893 --> 01:21:05,528
and so there's need
to be respect there.
1898
01:21:05,528 --> 01:21:08,097
There's a line, no means no.
1899
01:21:08,097 --> 01:21:11,000
- What's going on in
Hollywood, I believe,
1900
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,401
is solidarity.
1901
01:21:12,401 --> 01:21:16,472
It's what happened
when all these women
1902
01:21:16,472 --> 01:21:18,774
shared their story
and said, "Me too."
1903
01:21:19,742 --> 01:21:21,610
What happened was connection
1904
01:21:21,610 --> 01:21:23,913
and that's what we all live for,
1905
01:21:23,913 --> 01:21:27,150
we live for belonging
to a community,
1906
01:21:27,150 --> 01:21:28,651
and the community has now said,
1907
01:21:28,651 --> 01:21:29,986
"You know what?
1908
01:21:29,986 --> 01:21:31,955
"We're ready to be inclusive."
1909
01:21:31,955 --> 01:21:34,657
I do think it will extend
beyond award season
1910
01:21:34,657 --> 01:21:37,593
and what I hope is
that it sends a message
1911
01:21:37,593 --> 01:21:39,828
to women who are
still in silence,
1912
01:21:39,828 --> 01:21:41,430
because of trauma
1913
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:43,967
and who are suffering from
post-traumatic stress disorder
1914
01:21:43,967 --> 01:21:46,869
or depression or
contemplating suicide,
1915
01:21:46,869 --> 01:21:49,472
because of the trauma of
rape or sexual assault,
1916
01:21:49,472 --> 01:21:53,109
I want them to have
permission to speak up.
1917
01:21:53,109 --> 01:21:55,211
I want them to have
permission to say--
1918
01:21:55,211 --> 01:21:56,212
- It's really important.
1919
01:21:56,212 --> 01:21:58,948
- That it wasn't my fault,
1920
01:21:58,948 --> 01:22:01,484
and to out the perpetrator.
1921
01:22:01,484 --> 01:22:03,586
That's what I'm hoping.
1922
01:22:03,586 --> 01:22:05,054
(dramatic music)
1923
01:22:05,054 --> 01:22:07,123
- The real problem is that
there are so few women
1924
01:22:07,123 --> 01:22:09,558
at the table in Hollywood.
1925
01:22:09,558 --> 01:22:12,095
There are so few women
in positions of power
1926
01:22:12,095 --> 01:22:13,329
behind the scenes.
1927
01:22:13,329 --> 01:22:16,732
It's still very much a
male dominated industry
1928
01:22:16,732 --> 01:22:18,701
where women don't have a voice,
1929
01:22:18,701 --> 01:22:20,869
and as long as women
don't have a voice,
1930
01:22:20,869 --> 01:22:24,007
there are always going
to be abuses of power.
1931
01:22:24,007 --> 01:22:27,143
What we've seen in recent times
1932
01:22:27,143 --> 01:22:29,445
is women have found a voice.
1933
01:22:29,445 --> 01:22:31,981
Things like Twitter
and social media
1934
01:22:31,981 --> 01:22:36,019
give someone like Rose
McGowen a massive platform
1935
01:22:36,019 --> 01:22:38,321
in which to express herself.
1936
01:22:38,321 --> 01:22:39,989
Prior to social media,
1937
01:22:39,989 --> 01:22:44,360
women didn't have a
way to communicate
1938
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,097
to millions what had
happened to them,
1939
01:22:48,097 --> 01:22:53,036
outrage, fear,
anxiety, complaints.
1940
01:22:53,036 --> 01:22:54,303
They didn't have a voice.
1941
01:22:54,303 --> 01:22:55,338
They didn't have a platform.
1942
01:22:55,338 --> 01:22:57,340
Now, everybody has a chance.
1943
01:22:57,340 --> 01:22:59,708
Everybody has a voice,
everybody has a platform.
1944
01:22:59,708 --> 01:23:02,411
- It's an important moment
and maybe a turning point.
1945
01:23:03,679 --> 01:23:05,281
I hope it's a tipping point.
1946
01:23:05,281 --> 01:23:06,549
The fact that all these women
1947
01:23:06,549 --> 01:23:08,684
have been brave enough
to come out and speak
1948
01:23:08,684 --> 01:23:10,619
and when you're not
in a powerful position
1949
01:23:10,619 --> 01:23:12,755
and the person that
you're telling on,
1950
01:23:12,755 --> 01:23:14,857
as it were, is,
1951
01:23:14,857 --> 01:23:16,925
there can be a cost.
1952
01:23:16,925 --> 01:23:18,561
People can be very critical.
1953
01:23:18,561 --> 01:23:20,063
- It was just disgusting,
1954
01:23:20,063 --> 01:23:24,233
and the stories that have
come out are heartbreaking,
1955
01:23:24,233 --> 01:23:25,801
and I really commend the women
1956
01:23:25,801 --> 01:23:28,671
who have been willing
to step forward now
1957
01:23:28,671 --> 01:23:30,106
and tell their stories,
1958
01:23:30,106 --> 01:23:32,275
but I think it's
important that we
1959
01:23:32,275 --> 01:23:35,344
not just focus on him
and whatever consequences
1960
01:23:35,344 --> 01:23:38,981
flow from the stories
about his behavior,
1961
01:23:38,981 --> 01:23:40,783
but that we recognize,
1962
01:23:40,783 --> 01:23:44,687
this kind of behavior cannot
be tolerated anywhere.
1963
01:23:44,687 --> 01:23:46,822
(dramatic music)
1964
01:23:46,822 --> 01:23:49,024
- First of all, I think
that cultural change
1965
01:23:49,024 --> 01:23:53,462
is always difficult but we
continue to move forward,
1966
01:23:53,462 --> 01:23:55,564
not withstanding
forces that would like
1967
01:23:55,564 --> 01:23:57,866
to move us backwards,
1968
01:23:57,866 --> 01:24:01,637
women have understood the
truth about sexual harassment
1969
01:24:01,637 --> 01:24:05,308
and abuse for generations,
1970
01:24:05,308 --> 01:24:08,644
but the freedom to speak
out and be believed
1971
01:24:08,644 --> 01:24:12,215
and be heard is so important
1972
01:24:12,215 --> 01:24:15,651
and I believe there's a shift
1973
01:24:15,651 --> 01:24:19,188
and I think that
from below the line
1974
01:24:19,188 --> 01:24:22,057
to above the line,
there's a recognition
1975
01:24:22,057 --> 01:24:25,994
that we wanna provide
access and opportunity
1976
01:24:25,994 --> 01:24:30,333
not to be generous but
because if you open the door,
1977
01:24:30,333 --> 01:24:35,338
the stories are
robust and diverse
1978
01:24:36,505 --> 01:24:41,144
and different and that
we all have a right
1979
01:24:41,877 --> 01:24:42,811
to do what we love.
1980
01:24:43,779 --> 01:24:46,515
(dramatic music)
1981
01:25:08,771 --> 01:25:10,306
- People believe in you
1982
01:25:12,741 --> 01:25:14,610
and it's not been fair
1983
01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:16,745
that you've used the power,
1984
01:25:16,745 --> 01:25:21,083
the gift that you have,
you've turned it into such
1985
01:25:21,083 --> 01:25:24,387
a corruption to take
advantage of other people.
1986
01:25:25,788 --> 01:25:27,756
- I had kind of
created a safeguard
1987
01:25:27,756 --> 01:25:30,226
of how I could avoid
those situations
1988
01:25:30,226 --> 01:25:35,231
and I never was in a hotel
room with him alone again.
1989
01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:37,966
- You're meeting with
a very powerful guy
1990
01:25:37,966 --> 01:25:41,737
in Hollywood that makes a lot
of actress's careers happen,
1991
01:25:41,737 --> 01:25:44,207
so when he said to
go to the Peninsula,
1992
01:25:44,207 --> 01:25:47,876
I just thought, "That's
a bar, so fine."
1993
01:25:47,876 --> 01:25:50,313
So we met at the bar there,
1994
01:25:50,313 --> 01:25:52,147
and we talked for a few minutes
1995
01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:53,616
and then he didn't
really ask me,
1996
01:25:53,616 --> 01:25:56,852
he just said, "We're going
upstairs to my room."
1997
01:25:56,852 --> 01:25:59,154
And I didn't really
know how to take that.
1998
01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:04,092
I didn't know how to say
no to someone like him
1999
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,662
at the time, which I regret.
2000
01:26:07,596 --> 01:26:08,864
- The next thing I knew,
2001
01:26:10,299 --> 01:26:14,337
he had unzipped his fly
and pulled out his penis.
2002
01:26:16,539 --> 01:26:19,141
My heart started pounding.
2003
01:26:20,809 --> 01:26:22,545
My mind started racing.
2004
01:26:23,512 --> 01:26:25,581
How do I deal with this?
2005
01:26:25,581 --> 01:26:27,483
How do I get out of this?
2006
01:26:27,483 --> 01:26:29,452
Am I going to get out of this?
2007
01:26:30,353 --> 01:26:32,187
How is this happening?
2008
01:26:32,187 --> 01:26:35,090
He then grabbed my hand
and pulled me towards him
2009
01:26:36,492 --> 01:26:39,628
and forced my hand onto his
penis and held it there.
2010
01:26:41,597 --> 01:26:45,668
He said, "Name anyone, any
actress you can think of
2011
01:26:45,668 --> 01:26:47,303
"and this is how they made it."
2012
01:26:48,671 --> 01:26:50,439
I have told parts of this story
2013
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:54,277
to only a very few
people over the years.
2014
01:26:57,746 --> 01:26:59,748
I felt so powerless
2015
01:27:00,949 --> 01:27:03,852
because he is, after
all, very powerful
2016
01:27:05,688 --> 01:27:09,725
and very well known
and very successful.
2017
01:27:12,661 --> 01:27:15,298
I didn't think anyone
would believe me.
2018
01:27:16,365 --> 01:27:17,199
I was nobody.
2019
01:27:19,302 --> 01:27:20,135
Why would they?
2020
01:27:21,337 --> 01:27:22,838
(dramatic music)
2021
01:27:22,838 --> 01:27:25,308
- I would not have wanted
anyone to do that to me,
2022
01:27:25,308 --> 01:27:28,377
even if the person had
been a romantic partner.
2023
01:27:30,045 --> 01:27:34,317
- We need justice
for these victims.
2024
01:27:35,584 --> 01:27:38,220
As soon as Mr. Weinstein
completes his therapy
2025
01:27:38,220 --> 01:27:41,424
and returns to either
New York or Los Angeles,
2026
01:27:41,424 --> 01:27:45,093
we urge him or his
representatives
2027
01:27:45,093 --> 01:27:48,431
to contact me to discuss
our plan for justice
2028
01:27:48,431 --> 01:27:49,465
for victims.
2029
01:27:50,699 --> 01:27:54,002
Vague apologies are not enough.
2030
01:27:55,203 --> 01:27:56,972
- [Narrator] UK police
are now investigating
2031
01:27:56,972 --> 01:27:59,608
allegations made by 10
women against producer
2032
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Harvey Weinstein,
2033
01:28:01,176 --> 01:28:03,512
so as more and more people
bravely come forward
2034
01:28:03,512 --> 01:28:04,880
with their own stories,
2035
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,915
more and more powerful
men in the industry
2036
01:28:06,915 --> 01:28:08,250
are beginning to fall
2037
01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:11,487
as their misconduct
is being exposed.
2038
01:28:11,487 --> 01:28:15,891
Kevin Spacey, Louis
CK, Ed Westwick,
2039
01:28:15,891 --> 01:28:20,228
Dustin Hoffman, James
Toback, Woody Allen,
2040
01:28:20,228 --> 01:28:21,797
Roman Polanski,
2041
01:28:21,797 --> 01:28:24,500
no longer can the
industry tolerate
2042
01:28:24,500 --> 01:28:26,301
this kind of behavior.
2043
01:28:26,301 --> 01:28:29,237
The truth is out and
it is being heard.
2044
01:28:37,413 --> 01:28:40,248
(dramatic music)
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