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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,867 --> 00:00:05,605 (birds chirping) (air whooshing) 2 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:18,151 (mischievous music) 3 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:38,104 - [Cameraman] Is yours working? 4 00:00:38,138 --> 00:00:39,639 - [Cameraman] Mm hm. 5 00:00:41,541 --> 00:00:42,475 (Dwight sighs) 6 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:46,212 (cameraman speaking faintly) 7 00:00:48,815 --> 00:00:51,217 - [Kaiser] All right, we're just gonna start easy. 8 00:00:51,251 --> 00:00:53,586 Can you give me your name, age and where you're from? 9 00:00:54,554 --> 00:00:55,655 - Okay. 10 00:00:55,688 --> 00:00:57,424 My name is Dwight Nixon. 11 00:00:59,192 --> 00:01:00,493 I'm from Atlanta, Georgia. 12 00:01:00,527 --> 00:01:02,862 I'm 37 years old. 13 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:04,364 - [Kaiser] And your wife? 14 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:06,132 - My wife's name is Emily Nixon. 15 00:01:06,166 --> 00:01:08,468 She's from Springfield, Tennessee. 16 00:01:08,501 --> 00:01:10,170 We both are livin' here now. 17 00:01:10,203 --> 00:01:11,738 - [Kaiser] Where's your wife now? 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,643 - (sighs) Emily went missin' 32 days ago. 19 00:01:18,445 --> 00:01:20,513 - [Kaiser] Do you know what might've happened to her? 20 00:01:21,881 --> 00:01:24,784 - No, but I plan to find out. 21 00:01:26,453 --> 00:01:28,221 - [Kaiser] Did you kill your wife? 22 00:01:30,790 --> 00:01:33,793 (singer vocalizing) 23 00:01:36,529 --> 00:01:37,797 My name is Kaiser Whitmore. 24 00:01:39,265 --> 00:01:41,201 Me and my college classmate, Charlie Burris, 25 00:01:41,234 --> 00:01:43,303 are film students in Nashville, Tennessee. 26 00:01:44,237 --> 00:01:45,472 We read about the disappearance 27 00:01:45,505 --> 00:01:46,906 of Emily Nixon - Emily! 28 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:48,441 - [Kaiser] and her husband Dwight's ongoing search 29 00:01:48,475 --> 00:01:51,177 for her while also remaining the primary suspect. 30 00:01:52,345 --> 00:01:53,613 We thought it interesting enough, 31 00:01:53,646 --> 00:01:55,415 so we inquired about doing this interview. 32 00:01:55,448 --> 00:01:57,817 (Emily laughing) 33 00:01:57,851 --> 00:01:59,786 What we thought was gonna be a single day 34 00:01:59,819 --> 00:02:01,921 of filming turned into much more than that. 35 00:02:02,922 --> 00:02:04,757 Something more mysterious, 36 00:02:04,791 --> 00:02:06,793 (shutter flashing) 37 00:02:06,826 --> 00:02:08,194 more unexplainable. 38 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:09,496 - [Dispatcher] 911, what's your emergency? 39 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:10,497 - [Kaiser] More sinister. 40 00:02:10,530 --> 00:02:11,865 (dramatic music) 41 00:02:11,898 --> 00:02:13,199 - Oh my God! - Oh God! 42 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:14,534 Get outta here. 43 00:02:14,567 --> 00:02:18,204 (somber mysterious music) 44 00:02:52,438 --> 00:02:53,907 - A few days after our initial interview, 45 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:57,577 Dwight agreed to walk us through the day Emily disappeared. 46 00:02:57,610 --> 00:02:58,978 It happened on an 82 acre farm 47 00:02:59,012 --> 00:03:01,514 in Springfield, Tennessee called Howard's Mill. 48 00:03:03,449 --> 00:03:05,485 Abandoned for nearly 50 years, 49 00:03:05,518 --> 00:03:08,388 the land consists of mostly overgrown fields, 50 00:03:08,421 --> 00:03:10,623 some small wooded areas and a large pond. 51 00:03:13,059 --> 00:03:13,960 That much stuff? 52 00:03:13,993 --> 00:03:15,295 Oh, he's here. 53 00:03:15,328 --> 00:03:16,829 - Okay, okay. - Do you need help? 54 00:03:16,863 --> 00:03:18,665 - [Charlie] No, I'm good, I'm good. 55 00:03:21,067 --> 00:03:22,869 - [Kaiser] Hey, good to see you again. 56 00:03:22,902 --> 00:03:23,836 - Hey, how you doin'? 57 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:24,604 - [Kaiser] Good, how are you? 58 00:03:24,637 --> 00:03:26,339 - I'm all right. 59 00:03:26,372 --> 00:03:27,507 - Well, thank you so much for coming. 60 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:31,477 Do you mind just walking us through that day, 61 00:03:31,511 --> 00:03:34,881 beginning of the day up until her disappearance? 62 00:03:34,914 --> 00:03:36,282 - Yeah, sure. 63 00:03:36,316 --> 00:03:40,320 Emily and I got here probably about 12:15. 64 00:03:40,353 --> 00:03:41,487 - Okay. 65 00:03:41,521 --> 00:03:42,722 - We stopped by the nursing home. 66 00:03:42,755 --> 00:03:45,024 Emily's mom is in the nursing home. 67 00:03:45,058 --> 00:03:46,392 - Oh, okay. 68 00:03:46,426 --> 00:03:48,494 - And we made sure she got her meds 69 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:50,863 and talked with her for a minute, then we drove up here. 70 00:03:50,897 --> 00:03:51,831 Yeah. 71 00:03:51,864 --> 00:03:53,366 - What were you guys doing over here again? 72 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:54,434 - Metal detector, 73 00:03:54,467 --> 00:03:55,301 metal- - That's right. 74 00:03:55,335 --> 00:03:55,969 - Yeah. - Okay. 75 00:03:57,036 --> 00:03:59,606 So, when you did bring him in 76 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:02,075 was there anything off about him? 77 00:04:02,108 --> 00:04:04,077 - Nothin' stuck out at first. 78 00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:07,981 He had a good recollection of the day. 79 00:04:08,014 --> 00:04:10,383 And what were you doin' on the property? 80 00:04:11,951 --> 00:04:14,487 - My wife and I are amateur treasure hunters. 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,522 - Do you ever find anything? 82 00:04:16,556 --> 00:04:18,591 - No, it's just a way of spending time together. 83 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:19,959 So, we're up here. 84 00:04:19,993 --> 00:04:22,929 We're metal detecting and then we decided, okay. 85 00:04:22,962 --> 00:04:25,398 We decide we're gonna split off. 86 00:04:25,431 --> 00:04:26,399 All right? 87 00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:28,534 So, I go- - Wait, y'all split off? 88 00:04:28,568 --> 00:04:32,739 - When did you decide to go in different directions? 89 00:04:32,772 --> 00:04:35,441 (Dwight sighs) (mysterious music) 90 00:04:35,475 --> 00:04:36,943 - We didn't. 91 00:04:36,976 --> 00:04:39,112 Well, I mean, it's what we do. 92 00:04:39,145 --> 00:04:40,947 We walk in different directions 93 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:43,049 so we're not coverin' the same area. 94 00:04:43,082 --> 00:04:47,420 - Kinda counter to spendin' time together wouldn't you say? 95 00:04:48,921 --> 00:04:51,457 - And we always agree to meet at a certain, 96 00:04:51,491 --> 00:04:52,659 meet at a middle point. 97 00:04:52,692 --> 00:04:55,561 And so, we agreed to meet right over here, over that ridge. 98 00:04:55,595 --> 00:04:57,630 Do you see way up there where that ridge is? 99 00:04:57,664 --> 00:04:58,564 - Yeah. - Okay. 100 00:04:58,598 --> 00:04:59,966 That's where we agreed to meet. 101 00:04:59,999 --> 00:05:02,368 - When he started walkin' us through the routes 102 00:05:02,402 --> 00:05:04,137 that he and his wife took around the property, 103 00:05:04,170 --> 00:05:06,439 that's when his story began fallin' apart. 104 00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:08,341 - So, you saw her the whole time? 105 00:05:09,709 --> 00:05:11,644 - I saw her most of the time, yeah. 106 00:05:11,678 --> 00:05:15,114 - Can you show me on the map, the area you covered? 107 00:05:17,950 --> 00:05:19,986 - And if you look over this ridge here, 108 00:05:20,019 --> 00:05:21,821 you really can't see down into that. 109 00:05:21,854 --> 00:05:23,823 So, I figured that maybe she'll 110 00:05:23,856 --> 00:05:25,425 come over the hill eventually. 111 00:05:25,458 --> 00:05:28,861 So, I stop right about here in this little open space. 112 00:05:28,895 --> 00:05:32,865 - And where we found a piece of Emily's metal detector? 113 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:37,103 (Dwight sighs) 114 00:05:37,136 --> 00:05:39,138 - And I feel somethin' under my foot. 115 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:42,975 (dramatic music) (shutter flashing) 116 00:05:43,009 --> 00:05:44,177 - [Charlie] Did the police come here 117 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:45,445 and meet you here? 118 00:05:45,478 --> 00:05:46,979 - Yes, yes. 119 00:05:47,013 --> 00:05:49,115 They couldn't find anything, I couldn't find anything. 120 00:05:49,148 --> 00:05:52,151 (mysterious music) 121 00:05:53,453 --> 00:05:54,754 - [Kaiser] While searching the property, 122 00:05:54,787 --> 00:05:56,155 police discovered Emily's phone. 123 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:57,757 (shutter flashing) 124 00:05:57,790 --> 00:05:58,925 The following footage 125 00:05:58,958 --> 00:06:00,460 was the last thing Emily recorded 126 00:06:00,493 --> 00:06:02,528 just moments before her disappearance. 127 00:06:03,663 --> 00:06:05,732 - I'm gettin' a strong kick here. 128 00:06:05,765 --> 00:06:07,500 It seems to be about six inches down. 129 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:10,136 (dramatic music) 130 00:06:12,805 --> 00:06:15,041 What do we have here? 131 00:06:15,074 --> 00:06:17,076 Dwight's gonna be so mad. 132 00:06:18,144 --> 00:06:19,779 He never really finds anything. 133 00:06:20,913 --> 00:06:22,482 I'm not sure what it is right now 134 00:06:22,515 --> 00:06:25,084 but it seems kind of heavy and metallic. 135 00:06:25,118 --> 00:06:27,453 I'm gonna have to get it home to wash it off. 136 00:06:27,487 --> 00:06:30,089 (dramatic music) 137 00:06:46,506 --> 00:06:49,442 (children singing) 138 00:06:55,515 --> 00:06:57,717 - [Dwight] Emily was born in Springfield, Tennessee. 139 00:06:57,750 --> 00:06:58,684 - [Man] What are y'all posin' for? 140 00:06:58,718 --> 00:07:00,186 This is a movie camera. 141 00:07:00,219 --> 00:07:03,623 - [Dwight] Her dad died when she was six months old. 142 00:07:04,757 --> 00:07:07,226 - They can't bring no camera with you. 143 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:10,696 - [Dwight] So, she was raised by her mom. 144 00:07:10,730 --> 00:07:12,498 Just she and her mom. 145 00:07:12,532 --> 00:07:15,067 (solemn music) 146 00:07:17,003 --> 00:07:18,704 - I've known Emily since we were kids. 147 00:07:18,738 --> 00:07:19,839 - We grew up together. 148 00:07:19,872 --> 00:07:20,973 We had lots of classes together 149 00:07:21,007 --> 00:07:22,275 and we just became best friends. 150 00:07:22,308 --> 00:07:24,577 - We've been best friends since junior high. 151 00:07:24,610 --> 00:07:25,711 She was always happy. 152 00:07:25,745 --> 00:07:27,180 She always had a smile. 153 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:30,216 - She was sweet, kindhearted and hilarious. 154 00:07:30,249 --> 00:07:35,087 - Beautiful personality, liked by everyone. 155 00:07:35,121 --> 00:07:37,857 - This town has always been really fun for us. 156 00:07:37,890 --> 00:07:39,826 We hung out, we got our own little places 157 00:07:39,859 --> 00:07:41,727 that we love to go and we spend a ton 158 00:07:41,761 --> 00:07:44,630 of time just runnin' around and bein' goofy girls. 159 00:07:47,233 --> 00:07:50,069 - Emily and I met in 2011. 160 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:53,039 - When he got with Emily, 161 00:07:53,072 --> 00:07:55,208 it's like his whole life just changed. 162 00:07:55,241 --> 00:07:56,876 - Hi. (Dwight laughs) 163 00:07:56,909 --> 00:07:57,743 - Isn't she cute? 164 00:07:57,777 --> 00:07:58,678 - He loved Emily. 165 00:07:58,711 --> 00:08:00,112 He'd just do anything for Emily. 166 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,816 ♪ Happy birthday 167 00:08:03,850 --> 00:08:07,186 - It felt really quick, like pretty quick for her. 168 00:08:07,220 --> 00:08:08,654 I mean, that was a unique situation. 169 00:08:08,688 --> 00:08:10,790 I wasn't used to her responding so quickly. 170 00:08:10,823 --> 00:08:14,260 - It was fast, but he just fell head 171 00:08:14,293 --> 00:08:17,597 over heels in love with her. 172 00:08:18,631 --> 00:08:21,067 (Emily laughs) 173 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:22,635 (Dwight groans) 174 00:08:22,668 --> 00:08:25,071 - We got married in 2013. 175 00:08:25,104 --> 00:08:27,640 (soft music) 176 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:33,112 - [Emily] So, Dwight just got to Springfield, Tennessee. 177 00:08:33,145 --> 00:08:33,980 (Dwight sighs) 178 00:08:34,013 --> 00:08:35,181 (Emily giggles) 179 00:08:35,214 --> 00:08:37,250 You ready for your first pair of overalls? 180 00:08:37,283 --> 00:08:38,484 (Dwight laughs) (Emily giggles) 181 00:08:38,517 --> 00:08:41,120 - What'd you think we didn't have 'em Atlanta in the 1990s? 182 00:08:41,153 --> 00:08:42,788 (Emily laughs) 183 00:08:42,822 --> 00:08:44,156 I just hope you don't care 184 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:46,192 if I have one strap on with no shirt (indistinct). 185 00:08:46,225 --> 00:08:47,793 (Emily laughs) 186 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:49,562 Oo yeah! - Oh, whatever (laughs). 187 00:08:50,997 --> 00:08:52,832 Well, I think you're gonna love living here. 188 00:08:52,865 --> 00:08:54,767 It's a great place to raise a family. 189 00:08:56,669 --> 00:08:58,204 - So, you're ready for a family? 190 00:08:58,237 --> 00:09:00,072 (Emily laughs) 191 00:09:00,106 --> 00:09:01,774 - Hm, maybe. 192 00:09:02,742 --> 00:09:05,211 (somber music) 193 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,630 - Robertson County was founded in 1796 194 00:09:24,664 --> 00:09:28,367 the same year the state of Tennessee was established. 195 00:09:28,401 --> 00:09:29,969 (clock chimes) 196 00:09:30,002 --> 00:09:34,106 It is a small town, but we do have a lot of history. 197 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:37,977 We have tobacco, we have the whiskey industry. 198 00:09:38,010 --> 00:09:39,879 It's a wonderful place to live. 199 00:09:41,781 --> 00:09:43,950 - Been here all my life, so far. 200 00:09:46,185 --> 00:09:48,087 - I feel like everyone's family here. 201 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:57,997 - That Eagle was picking up baby pigs, 202 00:09:58,030 --> 00:09:59,865 and so it had to be killed. 203 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:02,368 (somber music) 204 00:10:16,916 --> 00:10:19,218 - [Kaiser] Did you ever regret moving here? 205 00:10:19,251 --> 00:10:20,820 - No, not at all. 206 00:10:21,854 --> 00:10:22,755 I don't- - Even if it means 207 00:10:22,788 --> 00:10:23,823 you never see Emily again? 208 00:10:25,324 --> 00:10:28,361 - No, I don't regret moving here and I definitely 209 00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:31,764 don't blame moving here for Emily's disappearance. 210 00:10:31,797 --> 00:10:35,201 - [Kaiser] Is it possible that Emily just left on her own? 211 00:10:35,234 --> 00:10:36,102 - Absolutely not. 212 00:10:37,236 --> 00:10:39,705 She wouldn't just leave. 213 00:10:39,739 --> 00:10:42,208 (eerie music) 214 00:10:45,511 --> 00:10:47,713 - There was somethin' about Emily's disappearance 215 00:10:47,747 --> 00:10:49,949 that never seemed right to me. 216 00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:53,252 The clues weren't there. 217 00:10:55,488 --> 00:10:57,456 In my experience, when somebody goes missing, 218 00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:58,457 there's always a clue. 219 00:10:58,491 --> 00:10:59,859 We had nothin' to go on. 220 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:03,963 - [Man] She just flat disappeared. 221 00:11:05,064 --> 00:11:06,932 - [Man] He was the last person to see her. 222 00:11:06,966 --> 00:11:08,801 That's going to obviously put him 223 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:11,137 at a higher level of suspicion. 224 00:11:12,772 --> 00:11:13,472 - [Kaiser] Do you think her husband 225 00:11:13,506 --> 00:11:14,940 had something to do with it? 226 00:11:16,308 --> 00:11:18,744 - Man, I hate to speculate on stuff like that. 227 00:11:19,912 --> 00:11:22,314 - When this case with she'd been gone a month, 228 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:24,050 I would likely expect to find 229 00:11:24,083 --> 00:11:25,851 a body instead of a living person. 230 00:11:27,253 --> 00:11:29,021 - Course everybody's got an angle. 231 00:11:30,089 --> 00:11:31,357 Who you gonna believe? 232 00:11:31,390 --> 00:11:34,060 (eerie music) 233 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:42,001 - [Bobby] Were there any problems in your marriage problems? 234 00:11:42,034 --> 00:11:43,502 - No, we didn't have any problems. 235 00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:45,504 Not any different than any other couple. 236 00:11:45,538 --> 00:11:47,406 - Any major fights recently? 237 00:11:48,874 --> 00:11:49,742 - No. 238 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:53,145 - Why are you harassin' me? 239 00:11:53,179 --> 00:11:54,246 - Why do you think I had lunch with you? 240 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,383 - Last chance. - You're crazy. 241 00:11:57,416 --> 00:11:59,819 - Do you recall that argument? 242 00:11:59,852 --> 00:12:02,054 (Dwight speaking faintly) 243 00:12:02,088 --> 00:12:02,955 - Yes. 244 00:12:04,256 --> 00:12:07,026 - We were able to uncover a bit more evidence 245 00:12:07,059 --> 00:12:09,995 about the relationship between Mr and Mrs. Nixon. 246 00:12:10,029 --> 00:12:11,397 - Sometimes people are drunk and they fight, 247 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:14,066 and she'd spend some time with me when she felt 248 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:16,402 like she needed to let him cool off. 249 00:12:16,435 --> 00:12:18,471 - [Kaiser] He would never physically hurt her, would he? 250 00:12:18,504 --> 00:12:20,906 - Absolutely not, absolutely not. 251 00:12:22,174 --> 00:12:26,378 He was not brought up around violence at all. 252 00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:28,013 He comes from a family where 253 00:12:28,047 --> 00:12:32,885 the women were very well respected 254 00:12:32,918 --> 00:12:37,523 and that's just something totally against his nature. 255 00:12:37,556 --> 00:12:40,226 - I warned her that it could possibly 256 00:12:40,259 --> 00:12:42,561 be on the verge of actually turning violent. 257 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:45,865 - Even if you get angry with them, you walk away. 258 00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:47,566 - What's wrong? - We're just friends. 259 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,567 - Just friends? - You knew that when 260 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:49,435 we moved here. - Why didn't you 261 00:12:49,468 --> 00:12:50,402 tell me about him? 262 00:12:50,436 --> 00:12:51,537 - [Emily] You knew about him. 263 00:12:51,570 --> 00:12:52,905 - I knew you dated him - You knew we 264 00:12:52,938 --> 00:12:53,939 - in high school. - had been best friends. 265 00:12:53,973 --> 00:12:55,341 - I didn't know that 266 00:12:55,374 --> 00:12:58,577 you had lunch with him. - We are friends, that's it. 267 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:01,480 - [Kaiser] Detective Latta believes you killed your wife. 268 00:13:01,514 --> 00:13:03,048 - Of course he does (sighs). 269 00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:06,152 But what you should concern yourself 270 00:13:06,185 --> 00:13:07,953 with is what he's not sayin'. 271 00:13:11,056 --> 00:13:12,258 This has happened before, 272 00:13:12,291 --> 00:13:13,959 right there on that same property. 273 00:13:13,993 --> 00:13:18,998 (eerie music) (singer vocalizing) 274 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,943 - People still say things happen around here all the time. 275 00:13:30,976 --> 00:13:32,411 You can ask anybody in the community 276 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:36,115 and they've had some story or odd occurrence out here. 277 00:13:37,583 --> 00:13:40,519 - It's kind of a local novelty. 278 00:13:40,553 --> 00:13:43,189 Kids talk about the place and they dare 279 00:13:43,222 --> 00:13:48,194 their buddies to go over there and walk around or whatever. 280 00:13:49,562 --> 00:13:52,364 - [Sam] We went there one time, we'll never go back. 281 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:56,502 - Our friend went in and he didn't come out for 15 minutes, 282 00:13:56,535 --> 00:13:58,604 and when he came out, he was crying. 283 00:13:58,637 --> 00:14:00,005 - As soon as we pulled out my truck 284 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:01,373 just went (imitates engine chugging), 285 00:14:01,407 --> 00:14:04,276 started givin' out and he said he saw somethin', 286 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:05,511 in my headlights. 287 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:07,012 He said he saw some woman or somethin'. 288 00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:08,247 - I'm pretty sure it's like a ghost 289 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,182 because it was moving slightly. 290 00:14:11,317 --> 00:14:12,651 And I don't believe in no supernatural 291 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:14,587 but I did run, so (laughs). 292 00:14:19,258 --> 00:14:20,526 - I look up and there's like, 293 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:24,363 just this silver thing just sittin' in the sky. 294 00:14:24,396 --> 00:14:26,665 And I was like, that's kinda weird. 295 00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:28,267 - Yeah, I've seen some lights. 296 00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:30,135 - And all this whole area, 297 00:14:30,169 --> 00:14:34,640 this whole county is known to have odd events happen. 298 00:14:34,673 --> 00:14:37,276 It could definitely be the reason you have strange events 299 00:14:37,309 --> 00:14:40,546 and occurrences on the Howard's property. 300 00:14:40,579 --> 00:14:43,215 All this property was sacred hunting ground to the Indians. 301 00:14:43,249 --> 00:14:47,019 So, they supposedly protected this property 302 00:14:47,052 --> 00:14:50,222 by way of blessing these rocks and the graves. 303 00:14:50,256 --> 00:14:54,360 So, incidentally I don't mess with graves out here 304 00:14:54,393 --> 00:14:57,696 because I don't wanna start it again, whatever it was. 305 00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:02,668 - This has happened before, 306 00:15:02,701 --> 00:15:04,470 right there on that same property. 307 00:15:05,471 --> 00:15:06,672 - [Kaiser] What do you mean? 308 00:15:06,705 --> 00:15:07,673 Who'd this happen to? 309 00:15:07,706 --> 00:15:08,874 When? 310 00:15:08,907 --> 00:15:14,179 - In 1994, a little girl named Sarah Winston disappeared. 311 00:15:15,281 --> 00:15:16,949 Just vanished right there at Howard's Mill. 312 00:15:24,723 --> 00:15:26,659 - [Sarah's Mom] Did you feed some chips to the birds? 313 00:15:26,692 --> 00:15:28,260 - [Sarah] Uh (giggles)- 314 00:15:28,294 --> 00:15:31,697 - [Sarah's Mom] Yeah, did you see that blue heron? 315 00:15:34,633 --> 00:15:36,368 Want another sandwich, baby? 316 00:15:36,402 --> 00:15:37,569 - No, I'm cool. 317 00:15:37,603 --> 00:15:38,771 - [Sarah's Mom] Are you saving room for cake? 318 00:15:38,804 --> 00:15:39,738 - Yeah. (Sarah's mom laughs) 319 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:41,073 - [Roger] I am, too. 320 00:15:41,106 --> 00:15:42,608 - Chocolate cake. - Mm, mm, mm. 321 00:15:42,641 --> 00:15:43,475 I love you, baby. 322 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:44,476 - I love you too. 323 00:15:44,510 --> 00:15:45,644 - Mwah. - You want a sandwich? 324 00:15:45,678 --> 00:15:47,046 - [Roger] No, no thank you, I'm good. 325 00:15:47,079 --> 00:15:48,213 - You don't want- - I'm gonna go play. 326 00:15:48,247 --> 00:15:49,348 - Be careful up there. - Love you, Dad. 327 00:15:49,381 --> 00:15:50,282 - [Roger] All right, love you too. 328 00:15:50,316 --> 00:15:51,450 - You didn't like that she didn't stay. 329 00:15:51,483 --> 00:15:52,384 - [Roger] I don't think I do. 330 00:15:52,418 --> 00:15:53,652 (Sarah's parents laughing) 331 00:15:53,686 --> 00:15:55,220 - [Sarah's Mom] Look how fast she's runnin' in those boots. 332 00:15:55,254 --> 00:15:56,188 She's running now. 333 00:15:58,190 --> 00:16:00,192 - [Roger] Sarah? 334 00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:02,261 - [Sarah's Mom] Sarah, are you okay? 335 00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:03,228 - [Roger] She's playin' around. 336 00:16:03,262 --> 00:16:04,530 - [Sarah's Mom] I don't see her. 337 00:16:05,431 --> 00:16:06,265 - [Roger] Well, hold on. 338 00:16:06,298 --> 00:16:07,132 - [Sarah's Mom] Sarah? 339 00:16:07,166 --> 00:16:09,101 - [Roger] Sarah? 340 00:16:09,134 --> 00:16:10,235 - [Sarah's Mom] Honey, 341 00:16:10,269 --> 00:16:13,339 go see what happened. - Sarah? 342 00:16:13,372 --> 00:16:14,373 Come on now. 343 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:16,475 - [Sarah's Mom] Sarah? 344 00:16:16,508 --> 00:16:18,243 - [Roger] Sarah? 345 00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:19,278 Sarah? 346 00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:20,479 - [Sarah's Mom] Don't see her? 347 00:16:20,512 --> 00:16:22,114 - [Roger] Sarah! 348 00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:22,781 - [Sarah's Mom] Sarah? 349 00:16:22,815 --> 00:16:23,649 - [Roger] Sarah! 350 00:16:23,682 --> 00:16:24,650 Good Lord! 351 00:16:24,683 --> 00:16:25,617 Where'd she go? 352 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:26,552 Sarah! 353 00:16:26,585 --> 00:16:27,586 - [Sarah's Mom] Sarah? 354 00:16:27,619 --> 00:16:29,088 - [Roger] Sarah? 355 00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:32,491 - [Sarah's Mom and Roger] Sarah? 356 00:16:32,524 --> 00:16:33,726 - [Roger] Oh my God. 357 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:34,793 Oh my God, 358 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:35,661 where did she go? - Sarah? 359 00:16:35,694 --> 00:16:36,528 Sarah! 360 00:16:36,562 --> 00:16:38,063 (dramatic music) 361 00:16:38,097 --> 00:16:38,764 Sarah! 362 00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:42,201 - [Sarah's Mom and Roger] Sarah! 363 00:16:42,234 --> 00:16:45,137 (crow cawing) 364 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:46,372 - [Kaiser] We were able to track down 365 00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:49,541 the lead investigator from the Sarah Winston disappearance, 366 00:16:49,575 --> 00:16:52,211 retired Detective, Dan Thompson. 367 00:16:52,244 --> 00:16:55,280 (train rattling) 368 00:16:55,314 --> 00:16:57,082 - [Dwight] So, you worked the Sarah Winston case? 369 00:16:57,116 --> 00:17:00,119 - Yes, I did and it was real tragic, that one. 370 00:17:00,152 --> 00:17:02,521 - Well, what do you remember about it? 371 00:17:02,554 --> 00:17:05,157 - Oh, I remember everything. 372 00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:06,325 Everything. 373 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:07,726 She went missing practically right 374 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,530 in front of her parents, broad daylight. 375 00:17:11,563 --> 00:17:12,531 - Hm. 376 00:17:12,564 --> 00:17:14,199 - Yeah, that was a strange case. 377 00:17:14,233 --> 00:17:15,434 There was an open field. 378 00:17:15,467 --> 00:17:19,238 They were out, nobody around and next thing you know, gone. 379 00:17:20,873 --> 00:17:23,342 Nowhere to hide, nobody anywhere around, nothin'. 380 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:24,243 No sounds. 381 00:17:25,177 --> 00:17:25,844 Very strange. 382 00:17:27,646 --> 00:17:29,348 - What do you think happened? 383 00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:30,315 - I'm not sure. 384 00:17:30,349 --> 00:17:32,317 That case was never solved, 385 00:17:32,351 --> 00:17:35,387 so never found an end to it. 386 00:17:37,189 --> 00:17:38,557 - [Kaiser] We found an address for Roger Winston 387 00:17:38,590 --> 00:17:41,160 just outside Bowling Green, Kentucky. 388 00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:50,869 All right. 389 00:17:50,903 --> 00:17:52,571 - Ah, is that it? 390 00:17:52,604 --> 00:17:53,505 - [Kaiser] Yeah, this is it. 391 00:17:53,539 --> 00:17:55,140 - Okay. - Let's go. 392 00:18:02,314 --> 00:18:03,649 - It was a Saturday. 393 00:18:05,217 --> 00:18:06,518 We were celebratin' her 10th birthday 394 00:18:06,552 --> 00:18:09,621 off of Old State Highway 41. 395 00:18:09,655 --> 00:18:10,889 - [Dwight] The Howard place? 396 00:18:13,225 --> 00:18:16,128 - We just treated it like a park. 397 00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:18,564 Nobody bothered us there. 398 00:18:23,302 --> 00:18:24,303 She liked to run around. 399 00:18:24,336 --> 00:18:26,672 - Did you see that blue heron? (Sarah giggling) 400 00:18:26,705 --> 00:18:29,508 - [Roger] She was the happiest kid I ever saw. 401 00:18:30,476 --> 00:18:31,844 - I love you, Dad. 402 00:18:31,877 --> 00:18:33,612 - [Dwight] And you didn't see anyone else around? 403 00:18:35,814 --> 00:18:37,349 - Nah, it's just us. 404 00:18:37,382 --> 00:18:39,918 (solemn music) 405 00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:46,892 Then after (sniffs), I ran up there. 406 00:18:46,925 --> 00:18:48,927 Hey, baby, come on! 407 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:49,795 Tryin' to find her and, 408 00:18:49,828 --> 00:18:51,230 Sarah! 409 00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:52,331 See if she was okay and... 410 00:18:52,364 --> 00:18:53,765 Sarah! 411 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:54,633 - [Sarah's Mom] Sarah? 412 00:18:54,666 --> 00:18:55,567 - Sarah? 413 00:18:55,601 --> 00:18:56,502 She wasn't there. 414 00:18:57,436 --> 00:18:59,905 Vanished (inhales sharply). 415 00:18:59,938 --> 00:19:01,740 Just poof, she's gone. 416 00:19:06,445 --> 00:19:07,546 Gone. 417 00:19:07,579 --> 00:19:12,317 (solemn music) (singer vocalizing) 418 00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:24,429 - Roger, to say he went to pieces is an understatement. 419 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:27,766 - After she went missin', 420 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:32,804 he just totally, just lost his self, lost everything. 421 00:19:34,339 --> 00:19:36,575 - [Man] It was like all the life had been taken out of him. 422 00:19:37,809 --> 00:19:39,011 - He started havin' to deal with that grief 423 00:19:39,044 --> 00:19:41,914 and the way that he chose to deal with it was an addiction. 424 00:19:41,947 --> 00:19:46,952 It ruined his family and you can't really reason 425 00:19:48,487 --> 00:19:51,557 with somebody when they're in such a depression. 426 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:55,427 It hits you the way it hits you. 427 00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:56,795 If you think about it we're all 428 00:19:56,828 --> 00:19:59,698 one missing kid away from being a crazy person. 429 00:20:02,734 --> 00:20:05,704 - Then he started chasing all these theories. 430 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,775 - He's not the person I knew back before this happened. 431 00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:16,515 - How can you say goodbye when they're still out there? 432 00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:19,251 (solemn music) 433 00:20:22,387 --> 00:20:26,658 After she was gone, I went back everyday, 434 00:20:26,692 --> 00:20:28,794 and then every Saturday, 435 00:20:30,829 --> 00:20:35,667 and then once a year on the day it happened. 436 00:20:38,837 --> 00:20:43,675 One year I went and it was 2004, 437 00:20:45,777 --> 00:20:48,647 and I got there and it was already dark out. 438 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,917 It was sunset but it was dark. 439 00:20:51,950 --> 00:20:54,519 (eerie music) 440 00:20:56,521 --> 00:20:58,824 And it looked different, yeah. 441 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,365 Somebody put a pond in almost exactly 442 00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:10,602 on the spot where Sarah... 443 00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:14,706 Sarah! 444 00:21:16,441 --> 00:21:18,076 (Roger sniffles) 445 00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:20,946 There was somethin' floatin' in it. 446 00:21:20,979 --> 00:21:25,984 (Roger sniffling) (solemn music) 447 00:21:35,827 --> 00:21:37,362 I found this there that night. 448 00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:39,798 (eerie music) 449 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,870 It was wet, but it was spotless. 450 00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:53,712 Just like the day she made it. 451 00:21:53,745 --> 00:21:57,115 There's no way this was laying in the dirt, 452 00:21:57,149 --> 00:21:58,984 floatin' in that pond for 10 years. 453 00:21:59,017 --> 00:22:01,687 (solemn music) 454 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,096 - [Dwight] So what do you think happened? 455 00:22:11,129 --> 00:22:13,031 - I think she was tryin' to come home. 456 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:15,701 - [Dwight] Come home from where? 457 00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:18,370 (eerie music) 458 00:22:22,908 --> 00:22:25,143 - [Kaiser] Sarah in 1994. 459 00:22:26,078 --> 00:22:27,813 Emily in 2017. 460 00:22:29,114 --> 00:22:33,051 Two disappearances so similar, but over 20 years apart. 461 00:22:34,619 --> 00:22:38,623 Are they connected or just coincidental tragedies? 462 00:22:38,657 --> 00:22:40,525 - [Roger] That's 'cause she's not dead. 463 00:22:41,693 --> 00:22:42,794 She's still out there. 464 00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:45,530 You wife might be, too. 465 00:22:48,667 --> 00:22:52,070 - [Kaiser] We needed a lead to connect Emily and Sarah. 466 00:22:52,104 --> 00:22:54,673 Something real, someone. 467 00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:57,175 (eerie music) 468 00:22:58,677 --> 00:22:59,978 The day that Emily went missing, 469 00:23:00,011 --> 00:23:02,514 why didn't you immediately call the police? 470 00:23:02,547 --> 00:23:05,150 - I don't know, I did what anyone else would. 471 00:23:05,183 --> 00:23:06,952 I started yellin' for her. 472 00:23:06,985 --> 00:23:08,453 I called her cell phone. 473 00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:11,790 That took some time. 474 00:23:11,823 --> 00:23:13,625 - [Kaiser] Three hours? 475 00:23:13,658 --> 00:23:16,862 - I mean, look, it took at least 10 minutes goin' back 476 00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:18,196 and forth to the car. 477 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:21,133 Then goin' through the woods was like another hour. 478 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:24,603 (eerie music) 479 00:23:24,636 --> 00:23:25,704 I wasn't thinkin' about time. 480 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:28,140 (eerie music) 481 00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:31,710 - What do we have here? 482 00:23:31,743 --> 00:23:32,811 - [Kaiser] Can I show you something? 483 00:23:32,844 --> 00:23:34,679 (dramatic music building) 484 00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:35,881 Do you see that? 485 00:23:35,914 --> 00:23:37,449 There's someone in the background. 486 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,222 - Why am I just seein' this? 487 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:45,624 - [Kaiser] Because we thought it could be you. 488 00:23:45,657 --> 00:23:47,759 (dramatic music) 489 00:23:47,793 --> 00:23:49,161 - That's not me. 490 00:23:49,194 --> 00:23:50,262 That's Wayne. 491 00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:54,966 (singer vocalizing) (soft music) 492 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,934 - [Kaiser] For the first time 493 00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:57,769 since we began our documentary, 494 00:23:57,803 --> 00:23:59,738 we had a suspect other than Dwight. 495 00:24:04,009 --> 00:24:07,813 The Ritchie farm borders to Howard's property to the west, 496 00:24:07,846 --> 00:24:09,848 giving Wayne the most direct access 497 00:24:09,881 --> 00:24:12,517 to Howard's Mill than any of the other neighbors. 498 00:24:13,218 --> 00:24:14,586 - Yeah, I know Wayne. 499 00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:16,855 He's kinda keeps to himself. 500 00:24:16,888 --> 00:24:19,724 He doesn't do much socializing or nothin'. 501 00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:22,727 - He's just one of those guys that, 502 00:24:22,761 --> 00:24:25,197 he's kind of like the town eccentric. 503 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:29,000 - Just kinda odd (laughs), kinda like the rest of us. 504 00:24:29,034 --> 00:24:30,602 But anyhow. 505 00:24:30,635 --> 00:24:31,770 - You see him sometimes with, 506 00:24:31,803 --> 00:24:34,639 he's got a rabbit in his hand that he got on the road. 507 00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:35,874 I don't know what he does with it. 508 00:24:35,907 --> 00:24:37,075 - No (chuckles). 509 00:24:37,108 --> 00:24:39,878 His job is pickin' up roadkill for the county. 510 00:24:39,911 --> 00:24:41,079 Somebody gotta do it. 511 00:24:41,112 --> 00:24:42,981 - I know when my kids were little, 512 00:24:43,014 --> 00:24:45,917 I used to go to like the food store and the toy store, 513 00:24:45,951 --> 00:24:48,186 he'd be buyin' like all this baby food. 514 00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:49,554 - Heard a story about him awhile back, 515 00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:52,257 that he, he's kinda off. 516 00:24:52,290 --> 00:24:54,593 So his momma, he wanted the money from his momma 517 00:24:54,626 --> 00:24:56,761 and she told him to go rob a bank. 518 00:24:56,795 --> 00:24:58,129 Well, he goes up here and robs the bank 519 00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,998 and he ain't gonna hurt nobody. 520 00:25:00,031 --> 00:25:01,933 But he said, "I'm here to get some money. 521 00:25:01,967 --> 00:25:03,969 My momma told me to come get some money from y'all. 522 00:25:04,002 --> 00:25:05,036 I'm here to rob a bank." 523 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:05,904 (laughs) 524 00:25:05,937 --> 00:25:08,607 (eerie music) 525 00:25:09,941 --> 00:25:13,245 - I think Wayne's life was probably pretty tough at home. 526 00:25:13,278 --> 00:25:15,680 I think his dad was pretty rough on him 527 00:25:15,714 --> 00:25:18,984 and his dad was a no nonsense kinda guy, 528 00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:22,120 a hard workin' man, hard drinkin' guy 529 00:25:22,153 --> 00:25:24,990 and I think Wayne was scared to death of him. 530 00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:26,358 And to be honest with you, 531 00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:27,792 I probably was a little bit too. 532 00:25:27,826 --> 00:25:29,327 - [Kaiser] Were you scared of Wayne at all? 533 00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:30,328 - No, no. 534 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:31,897 - I don't think he's dangerous. 535 00:25:31,930 --> 00:25:33,632 I think he's just kind of a loner. 536 00:25:33,665 --> 00:25:36,868 - Most people just leave him alone, leave him be because- 537 00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:38,770 - He'd probably run 'em off anyway. 538 00:25:38,803 --> 00:25:39,671 - He probably would. 539 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:40,605 He was- - That's the way 540 00:25:40,639 --> 00:25:42,307 his family's always been. 541 00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:45,844 - There's been a lot of kids going to that house. 542 00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:47,379 Like we would normally like ride four wheelers 543 00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:50,949 down our road and stuff and we never do that anymore. 544 00:25:50,982 --> 00:25:55,353 He has threatened to kill me and my neighbor. 545 00:25:57,722 --> 00:26:00,091 - [Kaiser] What's Wayne's connection to the Howard's land? 546 00:26:00,125 --> 00:26:02,027 - Well, he kinda takes care of it. 547 00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:04,696 Used to be a farm several years ago 548 00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:06,665 but it kinda died out. 549 00:26:06,698 --> 00:26:08,967 Now he just does some mowin' and things like that. 550 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,969 - Well, I don't know why he's mowing that lawn 551 00:26:11,002 --> 00:26:13,905 when the Howard's left decades ago. 552 00:26:13,939 --> 00:26:15,106 Why would anybody do that? - I don't know but he had, 553 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:17,275 the Howard's ain't comin' back. 554 00:26:18,810 --> 00:26:22,047 - Before he kinda tried to kidnap a girl 555 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,716 I think is the way that it turned out to be. 556 00:26:24,749 --> 00:26:27,052 We all just kinda thought that he was strange. 557 00:26:27,085 --> 00:26:30,288 - He gave this girl a ride home from school. 558 00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:31,923 He didn't stop at her house. 559 00:26:31,957 --> 00:26:35,093 He just kept going and she was gone for a whole hour. 560 00:26:35,126 --> 00:26:37,729 (eerie music) 561 00:26:39,164 --> 00:26:40,765 - [Kaiser] Is Wayne a suspect? 562 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:45,136 - (sighs) Wayne's slow. 563 00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:47,339 He's always been slow. 564 00:26:47,372 --> 00:26:52,010 He likes to keep to himself which upsets some people. 565 00:26:52,043 --> 00:26:53,445 Kidnappin'? 566 00:26:53,478 --> 00:26:54,346 No. 567 00:26:55,914 --> 00:26:59,684 Wayne Ritchie didn't kidnap anybody. 568 00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:01,052 - [Kaiser] But what about Terra Edwards? 569 00:27:01,086 --> 00:27:03,254 (dramatic music) 570 00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:05,924 (eerie music) 571 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:09,794 Although Wayne Ritchie was nearby 572 00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:13,431 during the disappearance of Emily Nixon and Sarah Winston, 573 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:17,736 we wrote him off as a harmless misunderstood recluse. 574 00:27:17,769 --> 00:27:19,904 But then we learned about Terra Edwards. 575 00:27:19,938 --> 00:27:22,407 (eerie music) 576 00:27:25,343 --> 00:27:27,812 - Yeah, I was 14. 577 00:27:28,947 --> 00:27:30,181 We all thought he was harmless. 578 00:27:30,215 --> 00:27:32,817 One day he said he'd take me home. 579 00:27:33,952 --> 00:27:38,857 But he just drove right past my neighborhood. 580 00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:41,359 - Apparently Mr. Ritchie had gone to the school 581 00:27:41,393 --> 00:27:43,895 in his car and my daughter doesn't have a car to drive. 582 00:27:43,928 --> 00:27:45,764 So, offered her a ride home. 583 00:27:46,898 --> 00:27:49,968 They drove towards the house and when she said, 584 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:51,169 "This is my house, 585 00:27:51,202 --> 00:27:53,304 just let me off in front of the house," 586 00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:54,372 he kept driving. 587 00:27:57,976 --> 00:27:58,910 - Next thing I remember, 588 00:27:58,943 --> 00:28:02,080 I mean, I just started screaming, freaking out. 589 00:28:02,113 --> 00:28:06,217 Next stop sign I jump outta the car, run home, tell my dad. 590 00:28:06,251 --> 00:28:07,452 - I could see right away. 591 00:28:07,485 --> 00:28:09,120 I knew somethin' was wrong. 592 00:28:10,155 --> 00:28:11,222 I called the cops. 593 00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:13,925 (eerie music) 594 00:28:19,497 --> 00:28:21,166 - Oh, I remember Wayne Ritchie very well. 595 00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:23,068 It was my second year as a teacher. 596 00:28:23,101 --> 00:28:25,537 Wayne was not a very good student 597 00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:27,505 and his heart wasn't in it, 598 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:30,475 never really got in a whole lot of trouble. 599 00:28:30,508 --> 00:28:32,844 He just didn't do much while he was here. 600 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:36,247 - Obviously he has somethin' wrong. 601 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:39,184 - It was a little awkward because he would come. 602 00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:40,418 He was not a student here, 603 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:44,155 but he would come up and even enter the building at times. 604 00:28:44,189 --> 00:28:46,925 So we ran him off on a number of occasions. 605 00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:49,394 - I didn't think taking a ride with them was a big deal, 606 00:28:49,427 --> 00:28:53,965 until he had that look that, I mean, it was just blank. 607 00:28:53,998 --> 00:28:55,200 There was nothing there. 608 00:28:56,835 --> 00:29:00,238 - I think it was just a big infatuation on his part 609 00:29:00,271 --> 00:29:01,473 that had gotten to a point 610 00:29:01,506 --> 00:29:04,576 that it was probably not healthy anymore. 611 00:29:04,609 --> 00:29:07,245 - I never thought he was capable 612 00:29:07,278 --> 00:29:11,416 of hurting someone until that day. 613 00:29:11,449 --> 00:29:13,318 - [Stan] His intentions weren't good. 614 00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:17,889 - Now, Wayne, he did have an uncle 615 00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:19,991 or a cousin that was on the police force, 616 00:29:20,024 --> 00:29:21,226 tried to make it look like it 617 00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:23,428 was an innocent misunderstanding. 618 00:29:23,461 --> 00:29:24,362 Of course, it went away 619 00:29:24,395 --> 00:29:28,600 and Terra's dad was pretty upset about that. 620 00:29:28,633 --> 00:29:32,103 - What I remember what the cops did was nothing. 621 00:29:34,339 --> 00:29:36,508 - [Dwight] I mean, with Emily and Sarah Winston 622 00:29:36,541 --> 00:29:38,309 both missin' so close to his property, 623 00:29:38,343 --> 00:29:41,479 that's just too much of a coincidence. 624 00:29:44,048 --> 00:29:45,016 So yeah, you're damn right, 625 00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:46,417 I wanna talk to Wayne Ritchie. 626 00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:49,220 (pensive music) 627 00:29:56,661 --> 00:29:59,063 - [Kaiser] Mr. Ritchie, do you have a minute? 628 00:30:01,032 --> 00:30:02,167 - No, I got nothin' to say, so. 629 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,903 - [Kaiser] Do you think Dwight Nixon killed his wife? 630 00:30:07,305 --> 00:30:08,606 - No. 631 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,241 - [Kaiser] Who do you think did? 632 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:15,213 - Nobody killed nobody. 633 00:30:15,246 --> 00:30:16,281 The land done it. 634 00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:17,348 The land took 'em. 635 00:30:17,382 --> 00:30:19,517 It took whatever it wants. 636 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:23,221 It took her away. 637 00:30:23,254 --> 00:30:24,322 - [Kaiser] What about Sarah Winston? 638 00:30:24,355 --> 00:30:25,223 - Yep. 639 00:30:26,124 --> 00:30:27,992 Yep, and the Lopez's. 640 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:30,495 - [Kaiser] The Lopez's? 641 00:30:30,528 --> 00:30:31,362 Wait, wait, wait! 642 00:30:31,396 --> 00:30:32,664 Who are the Lopez's? 643 00:30:32,697 --> 00:30:33,965 - I can't talk right now. - No, no, just, 644 00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:35,533 - I gotta go. - who are the Lopez's? 645 00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:37,635 - [Wayne] Leave me alone. 646 00:30:40,972 --> 00:30:42,407 - Did you get that? 647 00:30:44,475 --> 00:30:45,677 (eerie music) 648 00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:47,078 Wayne's mention of the Lopez's led us 649 00:30:47,111 --> 00:30:49,614 to a third missing persons case connected 650 00:30:49,647 --> 00:30:51,583 to the Howard's property. 651 00:30:51,616 --> 00:30:54,452 In 1977 a family of migrant workers vanished, 652 00:30:54,485 --> 00:30:57,088 leaving behind their nine-year-old son, Daniel. 653 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,258 - [Daniel] My uncle cried out. 654 00:31:00,291 --> 00:31:01,626 I looked up and he was gone. 655 00:31:01,659 --> 00:31:03,995 (dramatic music) 656 00:31:04,028 --> 00:31:08,199 Then my father, he fell, 657 00:31:09,334 --> 00:31:10,668 dropped straight to the ground. 658 00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:13,104 He was reachin' up for my mother's dress 659 00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:17,208 when he was goin' down and then she was gone, too. 660 00:31:17,242 --> 00:31:20,111 (dramatic music) 661 00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:35,426 - [Kaiser] Are you familiar with the Lopez's? 662 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:37,095 - No, I don't believe so. 663 00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:42,267 - In the '70s they started entering migrant workers 664 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:44,736 here to work the tobacco field 'cause they couldn't 665 00:31:44,769 --> 00:31:46,170 get other people to work. 666 00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:50,108 - The Howard's had foreign farm hands 667 00:31:50,141 --> 00:31:52,043 come in before anybody else did. 668 00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:54,045 - He used a lot of 'em, Mr. Howard. 669 00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:56,147 He used a lot of 'em throughout the years. 670 00:31:59,317 --> 00:32:00,718 - [Dwight] You remember the Lopez case? 671 00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:02,353 - Mm hm, yeah. 672 00:32:03,488 --> 00:32:06,524 They left a abandoned little boy, I think. 673 00:32:06,557 --> 00:32:08,026 Left a little boy at 10 years old, 674 00:32:08,059 --> 00:32:09,227 nine years old, somethin' like that. 675 00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:12,297 - His family went missin' and we took them in for awhile 676 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:16,467 and we were hopin' that his family would come back 677 00:32:16,501 --> 00:32:19,237 but they never did. 678 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:22,440 The county came and got him and sent him back to Illinois. 679 00:32:22,473 --> 00:32:23,741 - It's really sad though, 680 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:27,345 that his family left him like that. 681 00:32:27,378 --> 00:32:28,613 - I just had a hard time believin' 682 00:32:28,646 --> 00:32:31,349 that they ever would abandon their son. 683 00:32:31,382 --> 00:32:32,317 They were such a tight knit family. 684 00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:34,519 - Do you have a case file I could look at? 685 00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:36,721 - I don't, no. 686 00:32:36,754 --> 00:32:39,424 That was Jennings case and he's passed on now. 687 00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:41,326 So, I'm sure there's something in the archive. 688 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:42,160 We can go look it up. 689 00:32:42,193 --> 00:32:44,362 (soft music) 690 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,775 - [Helen] I'm Helen Jennings. 691 00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,078 David Jennings was my husband. 692 00:33:03,214 --> 00:33:04,582 - [Kaiser] What did he do? 693 00:33:04,615 --> 00:33:07,719 - He was on the police force here in Springfield. 694 00:33:07,752 --> 00:33:12,223 He was on the force, gosh, for 40 years plus 695 00:33:12,256 --> 00:33:16,461 and he was promoted to detective in '69, 1969, I think. 696 00:33:18,763 --> 00:33:21,132 - [Kaiser] Is there a lot of detective work in this town? 697 00:33:21,165 --> 00:33:22,533 It seems pretty quiet. 698 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:24,569 - Well, it does, but you'd be surprised. 699 00:33:24,602 --> 00:33:28,706 We had a lot of crime here, including murders. 700 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:31,576 - [Kaiser] Any cases that stood out in particular? 701 00:33:31,609 --> 00:33:33,277 - Oh yes, absolutely. 702 00:33:33,311 --> 00:33:35,546 It was the Lopez case. 703 00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:37,415 It just got under his skin more 704 00:33:37,448 --> 00:33:40,084 than anything else he ever worked on. 705 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,820 They never found any trace of the family, 706 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:45,156 they left everything behind. 707 00:33:45,189 --> 00:33:48,693 The boy even said, "They disappeared into the earth." 708 00:33:48,726 --> 00:33:50,762 - [Kaiser] Did he believe Daniel's story 709 00:33:50,795 --> 00:33:52,797 about being sucked into the earth? 710 00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:54,432 (Helen sighs) 711 00:33:54,465 --> 00:33:58,136 - He believed there was a logical explanation to it. 712 00:33:58,169 --> 00:34:00,505 He investigated sinkholes, earthquakes, 713 00:34:00,538 --> 00:34:03,174 anything that he could find 714 00:34:03,207 --> 00:34:05,443 that would prove the boy's story, 715 00:34:05,476 --> 00:34:10,148 but sad as it was, the Lopez family abandoned Daniel. 716 00:34:10,181 --> 00:34:12,650 (eerie music) 717 00:34:14,218 --> 00:34:16,554 - [Kaiser] We were able to track down Daniel Lopez, 718 00:34:16,587 --> 00:34:18,790 who is now living in Raleigh, North Carolina. 719 00:34:23,694 --> 00:34:24,562 - [Dwight] Daniel? 720 00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:25,630 - Yes. - Hey, Dwight. 721 00:34:25,663 --> 00:34:26,898 - Hey, how you doin'? 722 00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:28,199 - This is Kaiser - Kaiser, nice to meet you. 723 00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:29,400 - and Charlie. - Pleasure, pleasure. 724 00:34:29,434 --> 00:34:31,202 How's it goin'? - You ready to talk? 725 00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:31,869 - Yeah, yeah. 726 00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:32,737 Come on in. 727 00:34:32,770 --> 00:34:33,905 - All right. 728 00:34:33,938 --> 00:34:34,906 - Come on. 729 00:34:34,939 --> 00:34:37,675 (gentle music) 730 00:34:39,844 --> 00:34:40,745 - [Dwight] Let's start with you tellin' 731 00:34:40,778 --> 00:34:42,480 us who your parents were. 732 00:34:42,513 --> 00:34:44,182 - My parents were migrants. 733 00:34:44,215 --> 00:34:45,383 We all traveled together. 734 00:34:46,584 --> 00:34:49,587 - So what brought you and your family to Howard's Mill? 735 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:52,757 - Howard's Mill was a big tobacco farm. 736 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:55,259 We spent many months there. 737 00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:57,361 - Do you remember a man named Wayne Ritchie? 738 00:34:57,395 --> 00:34:58,663 - He lived nearby. 739 00:34:58,696 --> 00:35:00,498 We spent some time together. 740 00:35:00,531 --> 00:35:02,200 We didn't have much in common, 741 00:35:02,233 --> 00:35:06,671 but neither of us really was around other kids. 742 00:35:06,704 --> 00:35:08,906 - Tell us about the, what you remember 743 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,476 about the day your family disappeared. 744 00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:13,845 - It was late afternoon. 745 00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:14,879 I was about, 746 00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:19,350 20 steps from the old barn. 747 00:35:20,685 --> 00:35:24,789 My family was out in the fields, loading up the pickup truck 748 00:35:24,822 --> 00:35:26,157 with the day's crop. 749 00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:29,460 - [Dwight] Can you describe that field? 750 00:35:29,494 --> 00:35:32,430 - It was directly behind the house. 751 00:35:32,463 --> 00:35:35,733 The ground dipped down 752 00:35:35,766 --> 00:35:39,937 and started to spring right back up into a ridge. 753 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,674 They were about halfway up the hill, 754 00:35:43,708 --> 00:35:47,912 maybe about 100 to 150 yards from the house. 755 00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:49,580 My uncle cried out. 756 00:35:49,614 --> 00:35:51,249 I looked up and he was gone. 757 00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:53,317 (dramatic music) 758 00:35:53,351 --> 00:35:55,319 Then my father, 759 00:35:56,587 --> 00:36:00,224 he fell, dropped straight to the ground. 760 00:36:00,258 --> 00:36:01,792 He- - You remember it that well? 761 00:36:04,862 --> 00:36:09,567 - Yeah, you can't forget something like that. 762 00:36:11,569 --> 00:36:13,271 I got scared, so I ran. 763 00:36:14,605 --> 00:36:16,541 Went back to the last spot where I saw my family. 764 00:36:17,675 --> 00:36:20,978 After awhile, a police officer came and got me. 765 00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:26,450 - I'm gonna show you something. 766 00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:30,221 This video was taken in 1994. 767 00:36:32,723 --> 00:36:33,925 - [Sarah] I'm gonna go play. 768 00:36:33,958 --> 00:36:35,293 - [Roger] All right honey, love you. 769 00:36:35,326 --> 00:36:36,427 Be careful up there. - Love you, Dad. 770 00:36:36,460 --> 00:36:37,361 - [Roger] All right, love you too. 771 00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:37,995 - [Sarah's Mom] You didn't like 772 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:38,963 that she didn't stay. 773 00:36:38,996 --> 00:36:39,897 - [Roger] I don't think I do. 774 00:36:39,931 --> 00:36:41,532 (Sarah's parents laughing) 775 00:36:41,566 --> 00:36:42,466 - [Sarah's Mom] Look how far she's running in her boots. 776 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:43,434 - [Roger] Oh my goodness, honey. 777 00:36:43,467 --> 00:36:44,368 - [Sarah's Mom] Birthday boots. 778 00:36:44,402 --> 00:36:45,503 - She's fast. - Whoops. 779 00:36:46,571 --> 00:36:48,506 - Yeah, yes. 780 00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:52,376 That's exactly what happened. 781 00:36:53,578 --> 00:36:56,013 (dramatic music) 782 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:57,915 - Her name is Sarah Winston. 783 00:36:57,949 --> 00:36:59,750 - [Daniel] Okay. 784 00:36:59,784 --> 00:37:01,352 - Daniel, she's still missing. 785 00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:02,820 Nothing was ever found except 786 00:37:02,853 --> 00:37:04,021 for that pink and white hair bow 787 00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:06,524 that you can see in the recording. 788 00:37:06,557 --> 00:37:09,360 That same hair bow was found 10 years later, 789 00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:10,528 floating in a pond that was built 790 00:37:10,561 --> 00:37:12,363 on the site of her disappearance. 791 00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:14,799 (eerie music) 792 00:37:21,672 --> 00:37:23,608 - So, Dwight is out there marking a location 793 00:37:23,641 --> 00:37:26,877 where the Lopez's were working, 794 00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:31,782 and we're about 20 steps from the old barn, 795 00:37:31,816 --> 00:37:33,684 which would put Daniel right here. 796 00:37:34,685 --> 00:37:36,287 Hey, how's it goin' out there? 797 00:37:37,588 --> 00:37:40,057 - Well, based on Daniel's account, 798 00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:42,560 this is the spot where the family disappeared. 799 00:37:43,728 --> 00:37:45,997 The family was gathering supplies right here 800 00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:49,634 where I'm standing and guy's, 801 00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:51,102 looking around I don't see any obstacles 802 00:37:51,135 --> 00:37:54,605 or anything that you can hop on. 803 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,074 - [Kaiser] So, how fast do you think it would take to get 804 00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:59,543 to the tree line right behind you? 805 00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:02,546 - Well, I mean, if you were running really fast, 806 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:03,748 maybe 20, 30 seconds. 807 00:38:05,516 --> 00:38:07,084 - [Kaiser] So, if Daniel looked down for a second 808 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:10,421 they could have easily ran towards those trees. 809 00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,723 - I mean, it's possible, but there are plenty 810 00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:14,892 of easier ways of abandoning your kid than just waiting 811 00:38:14,925 --> 00:38:17,595 for him to look down and then running to some trees. 812 00:38:19,497 --> 00:38:20,131 - [Kaiser] Yeah, he's right. 813 00:38:20,164 --> 00:38:22,833 (eerie music) 814 00:38:24,001 --> 00:38:25,770 - [Dwight] Emily disappeared here. 815 00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:30,941 - And Lopez's over there up that ridge about 100 yards. 816 00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:36,080 - Yeah, and then Sarah Winston disappeared 817 00:38:36,113 --> 00:38:37,782 over this region, near the pond. 818 00:38:39,083 --> 00:38:41,118 We're talkin' three different disappearances, 819 00:38:41,152 --> 00:38:42,887 all on the same property. 820 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,523 (eerie music) 821 00:38:53,531 --> 00:38:56,367 (birds chirping) 822 00:39:04,875 --> 00:39:07,478 (eerie music) 823 00:39:38,075 --> 00:39:39,176 - [Kaiser] To get a better idea 824 00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:41,946 of the geological layout of Howard's Mill, 825 00:39:41,979 --> 00:39:44,615 we visited the Robertson County Archives. 826 00:39:49,153 --> 00:39:51,188 (Dwight sighs) 827 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:54,458 - We've got all their names on the back side. 828 00:39:54,492 --> 00:39:56,127 - Okay. - Yes. 829 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,165 Okay, so Howard's Mill should be there. 830 00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:04,935 - [Dwight] Wow. 831 00:40:04,969 --> 00:40:10,074 - So that bounds up to Highway 11 and mile marker 42. 832 00:40:12,977 --> 00:40:14,812 Hm, that is really interesting. 833 00:40:14,845 --> 00:40:17,481 You notice it's a triangular piece of property. 834 00:40:17,515 --> 00:40:19,750 You seldom ever find triangular pieces 835 00:40:19,784 --> 00:40:22,686 of property like that one anymore. 836 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:23,754 - Yeah, I see that. 837 00:40:23,788 --> 00:40:24,789 Are there any other properties 838 00:40:24,822 --> 00:40:27,124 like that here in Springfield? 839 00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:27,958 - I doubt it. 840 00:40:27,992 --> 00:40:30,661 (gentle music) 841 00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:35,099 - Originally, it was Pickett's Mill. 842 00:40:35,132 --> 00:40:36,700 It was named after John Pickett 843 00:40:36,734 --> 00:40:37,802 who was the man who built it. 844 00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:38,803 John was born in Virginia 845 00:40:38,836 --> 00:40:42,606 and he and Thomas Kilgore 846 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,743 established Cross Plains, Tennessee near the Red River. 847 00:40:45,776 --> 00:40:50,714 About three years after that, John and his wife, Hannah, 848 00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:53,751 moved three miles to the east and built the mill. 849 00:40:53,784 --> 00:40:56,787 In 1971, the Howard's came into town 850 00:40:56,821 --> 00:40:59,256 from St. Louis and they bought 851 00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:02,126 the mill from one Marty Lewis. 852 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,195 That's L-E-W-I-S Lewis. 853 00:41:04,228 --> 00:41:09,233 And she was a direct descendant of the Pickett family. 854 00:41:10,568 --> 00:41:11,735 - [Kaiser] Are you aware of any disappearances 855 00:41:11,769 --> 00:41:13,771 that have happened on the property? 856 00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:15,840 - You mean, Grant Pickett? 857 00:41:15,873 --> 00:41:20,144 Grant Pickett vanished in plain sight of his family. 858 00:41:20,177 --> 00:41:23,681 Story goes that he was working in his field 859 00:41:23,714 --> 00:41:26,984 and his son who was climbing a tree fell out 860 00:41:27,017 --> 00:41:30,020 of the tree and broke his arm and he started screaming. 861 00:41:30,054 --> 00:41:34,124 So, Grant goes running toward his son and his wife, Mary, 862 00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:36,260 who was in the house, goes running as well. 863 00:41:36,293 --> 00:41:37,795 Mary is closer. 864 00:41:37,828 --> 00:41:40,698 She gets to the boy first and as Grant Pickett 865 00:41:40,731 --> 00:41:45,269 is running toward his wife and screaming child, he vanished. 866 00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:47,872 Never heard from again. 867 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:49,940 - [Kaiser] Do you believe this story? 868 00:41:49,974 --> 00:41:54,311 (laughs) (bright music) 869 00:41:55,746 --> 00:41:58,549 - So this book should contain the current deed 870 00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:01,719 for Ms. Rebecca Howard. 871 00:42:02,686 --> 00:42:04,154 All right, here we go. 872 00:42:05,656 --> 00:42:07,758 So, it is currently Rebecca Howard's property 873 00:42:07,791 --> 00:42:09,293 to do with her as she places. 874 00:42:09,326 --> 00:42:13,063 Now, I've heard a rumor that Ms. Rebecca wrote a will 875 00:42:13,097 --> 00:42:15,366 and that it says that she's given 876 00:42:15,399 --> 00:42:18,135 this land to the city at her death. 877 00:42:18,168 --> 00:42:20,938 - So, the city has no jurisdiction over the land? 878 00:42:20,971 --> 00:42:24,074 - That is owned by Rebecca Howard, period. 879 00:42:24,108 --> 00:42:26,710 (eerie music) 880 00:42:37,821 --> 00:42:40,357 (Dwight groans) 881 00:42:44,128 --> 00:42:44,962 - [Dwight] You got it? 882 00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:45,829 Good. 883 00:42:45,863 --> 00:42:46,764 - [Kaiser] Heck yeah. 884 00:42:46,797 --> 00:42:47,731 - [Dwight] All right, thank you. 885 00:42:55,339 --> 00:42:56,874 - [Charlie] Got something here. 886 00:42:56,907 --> 00:42:57,975 - Be careful. 887 00:42:58,008 --> 00:42:59,043 A lot of glass. - What is that? 888 00:42:59,076 --> 00:42:59,977 - Yeah. 889 00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:01,278 - It's the Howards. 890 00:43:01,312 --> 00:43:03,981 (eerie music) 891 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,820 You guys see this door? 892 00:43:11,889 --> 00:43:13,057 It locks from the outside. 893 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:15,759 (eerie music) 894 00:43:18,896 --> 00:43:21,398 We've got some kids' clothes over here. 895 00:43:21,432 --> 00:43:24,435 - [Kaiser] I thought the Howard's didn't have any kids. 896 00:43:24,468 --> 00:43:26,704 - I thought they didn't have any kids either. 897 00:43:26,737 --> 00:43:29,139 (eerie music) 898 00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:37,081 Again, here we are. 899 00:43:37,114 --> 00:43:38,415 Same thing. 900 00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:40,951 Lock is on the outside of the door. 901 00:43:45,456 --> 00:43:47,157 - [Kaiser] Oh, God, it's a door. 902 00:43:47,191 --> 00:43:49,960 (pensive music) 903 00:43:55,799 --> 00:43:58,135 (indistinct) 904 00:44:03,107 --> 00:44:03,941 (Charlie groans) 905 00:44:03,974 --> 00:44:05,709 Gives me the creeps. 906 00:44:18,422 --> 00:44:21,291 (Dwight coughing) 907 00:44:27,431 --> 00:44:28,932 - [Dwight] Wait a minute, wait a minute. 908 00:44:28,966 --> 00:44:29,800 I got somethin'. 909 00:44:29,833 --> 00:44:31,001 - [Kaiser] What? 910 00:44:34,772 --> 00:44:35,806 - What is this? 911 00:44:37,408 --> 00:44:38,342 - [Charlie] A box? 912 00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:42,946 (music box playing) 913 00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:44,715 - [Dwight] It's like a music box. 914 00:44:46,917 --> 00:44:48,352 Then I've got a box here. 915 00:44:48,385 --> 00:44:51,188 (Dwight panting) 916 00:44:54,992 --> 00:44:56,326 Wait, wait, I got somethin'. 917 00:44:59,530 --> 00:45:02,332 Pictures. - It's pictures. 918 00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:04,968 - [Dwight] It's a little girl (panting) 919 00:45:05,002 --> 00:45:06,370 - [Kaiser] Who is she? 920 00:45:06,403 --> 00:45:07,337 - [Dwight] I don't know. 921 00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:10,107 (pensive music) 922 00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:16,313 (singer vocalizing) 923 00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:24,421 - [Kaiser] I thought the Howard's didn't have any kids? 924 00:45:25,989 --> 00:45:30,527 - [Dwight] I thought they didn't have any kids either. 925 00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:34,765 - I don't remember the Howard's having any kids. 926 00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:42,773 - Yeah, I think they did have some kids, a boy I believe. 927 00:45:44,174 --> 00:45:47,945 But again, they had a lot of farm hands over there. 928 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:50,514 So, it could've been one of them. 929 00:45:52,049 --> 00:45:54,585 - I can remember one time my old truck broke down 930 00:45:54,618 --> 00:45:56,587 out close to their farm, 931 00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:59,022 and they were nice and kind enough 932 00:45:59,056 --> 00:46:00,924 to let me use their phone 933 00:46:00,958 --> 00:46:02,893 and I think I remember a girl 934 00:46:02,926 --> 00:46:04,161 bein' there but I don't recall 935 00:46:04,194 --> 00:46:07,064 them ever mentionin' her name or anything. 936 00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:09,867 Like I said, that was back in the '70s. 937 00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:13,237 - I know I wasn't, I wasn't able to find 938 00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:15,405 any records that the Howard's had a baby. 939 00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:16,907 Given this is a rural area, 940 00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:18,242 it's pretty common that a lot of people 941 00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:20,110 had children at home. 942 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,116 - [Kaiser] After trying to reach Rebecca Howard by Phone, 943 00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:27,317 we decided to make the drive 944 00:46:27,351 --> 00:46:28,919 to St. Louis to see her in person. 945 00:46:28,952 --> 00:46:31,355 (eerie music) 946 00:46:33,257 --> 00:46:35,492 - So, the Howard's had a kid also went missin', 947 00:46:35,526 --> 00:46:37,594 or at least nobody can find him. 948 00:46:37,628 --> 00:46:39,096 - So, what does that mean? 949 00:46:41,098 --> 00:46:43,300 - I don't know what that means for Emily yet, 950 00:46:43,333 --> 00:46:45,969 but between Sarah, the Lopez's and this, 951 00:46:47,104 --> 00:46:49,139 it makes me wonder how big this thing can get. 952 00:46:51,141 --> 00:46:56,146 (somber music) (singer vocalizing) 953 00:46:58,148 --> 00:47:00,951 - After the Lopez incident, 954 00:47:02,052 --> 00:47:03,654 the house didn't feel like home anymore. 955 00:47:03,687 --> 00:47:06,857 It felt cold, soulless. 956 00:47:09,259 --> 00:47:12,629 I started feelin' like people were watchin' me. 957 00:47:15,132 --> 00:47:17,501 - There's been a recurrent theme 958 00:47:17,534 --> 00:47:20,103 in a lot of the sightings in the area 959 00:47:20,137 --> 00:47:23,941 from people who really have no contact with one another 960 00:47:23,974 --> 00:47:28,979 and that is of these tall, slender figures who are watching. 961 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,248 They call 'em the Watchers. 962 00:47:31,281 --> 00:47:34,151 People have seen them on the perimeter of their fields. 963 00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:37,421 People have seen them in their barns, in the haylofts. 964 00:47:38,555 --> 00:47:41,391 - They were all lined up on the horizon. 965 00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:45,362 (eerie music) 966 00:47:49,433 --> 00:47:52,636 I called Glynis a miracle. 967 00:47:54,438 --> 00:47:57,608 We tried for 15 years, prayed. 968 00:47:59,176 --> 00:48:02,613 I was nearly 40 when I found out I was expecting. 969 00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:09,586 She was playin' like she always was. 970 00:48:11,255 --> 00:48:13,323 I went down to tell her supper was ready. 971 00:48:14,625 --> 00:48:16,393 It seemed like she was talkin' to someone 972 00:48:16,426 --> 00:48:18,962 but there wasn't anyone there. 973 00:48:20,998 --> 00:48:24,434 Just before I got to her, the lights went out. 974 00:48:25,636 --> 00:48:30,440 But then there was this sort of different light. 975 00:48:30,474 --> 00:48:34,478 (wind chime chiming) (Rebecca gasping) 976 00:48:34,511 --> 00:48:35,512 I yelled for her. 977 00:48:42,219 --> 00:48:44,054 They were tellin' me to leave, 978 00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:48,959 like that land was theirs, not mind. 979 00:48:51,395 --> 00:48:55,666 I thought if I did what they said, 980 00:48:55,699 --> 00:48:57,334 they'd bring her back to me. 981 00:48:57,367 --> 00:49:02,306 (wind chime chiming) (soft music) 982 00:49:03,607 --> 00:49:06,176 - [Dwight] So in 1988, a young girl was found wandering 983 00:49:06,209 --> 00:49:07,744 outside the Howard's property. 984 00:49:07,778 --> 00:49:09,379 - [Dan] Right. 985 00:49:09,413 --> 00:49:11,315 - [Dwight] She was claiming that she was Glynis Howard. 986 00:49:11,348 --> 00:49:12,349 Do you remember that case? 987 00:49:12,382 --> 00:49:13,317 - I remember the case. 988 00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:15,786 Now, it wasn't my case, but I do remember it. 989 00:49:15,819 --> 00:49:18,155 It was pretty standard, really. 990 00:49:18,188 --> 00:49:20,090 A missing girl. 991 00:49:21,591 --> 00:49:23,360 It's a shame though, nobody came claimin' her. 992 00:49:23,393 --> 00:49:26,196 (pensive music) 993 00:49:33,603 --> 00:49:35,472 - No one here now was here back then 994 00:49:35,505 --> 00:49:39,576 but I was able to find a little info for you. 995 00:49:39,609 --> 00:49:43,080 We have anywhere from 10 to 15 kids here at a time. 996 00:49:43,113 --> 00:49:47,317 Glynis was here for two months. 997 00:49:48,752 --> 00:49:53,190 She came with a kind of a sad story back in 1988. 998 00:49:53,223 --> 00:49:55,158 Didn't know much about herself 999 00:49:55,192 --> 00:49:58,295 and our records show she didn't talk much. 1000 00:49:58,328 --> 00:50:01,531 Someone found her walkin' down the road barefoot 1001 00:50:01,565 --> 00:50:06,570 and nobody had reported any missing children at the time 1002 00:50:07,671 --> 00:50:09,439 and nobody came forward to claim her 1003 00:50:09,473 --> 00:50:12,309 and she did say her name was Glynis Howard. 1004 00:50:13,410 --> 00:50:15,245 - We checked out the Howard's house. 1005 00:50:15,278 --> 00:50:16,413 It was about a mile 1006 00:50:16,446 --> 00:50:17,814 from where the girl was picked up at there, 1007 00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:20,083 and they hadn't been there, 1008 00:50:20,117 --> 00:50:22,152 I guess probably 10 years at that point. 1009 00:50:22,185 --> 00:50:26,690 So, I mean, it's common enough, last name Howard, but no. 1010 00:50:28,558 --> 00:50:31,194 - Oh, yeah. 1011 00:50:31,228 --> 00:50:32,496 Yeah, I remember that. 1012 00:50:33,830 --> 00:50:35,832 Real sad story. 1013 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:40,270 Got a call about a kid walking down the street alone, 1014 00:50:40,303 --> 00:50:43,106 pulled up in my car, checked her out. 1015 00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:47,144 She was in really bad shape, barefoot, unkempt hair, 1016 00:50:47,177 --> 00:50:49,112 looked like she hadn't eaten in a week. 1017 00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:51,581 - [Kaiser] Do you know if she was related 1018 00:50:51,615 --> 00:50:53,183 to anybody in town? 1019 00:50:53,216 --> 00:50:54,151 - Nothing. 1020 00:50:54,184 --> 00:50:56,119 Nobody reported anybody missing. 1021 00:50:57,220 --> 00:50:59,222 Not much more I could do beyond that. 1022 00:51:00,624 --> 00:51:03,226 - The last time we heard anything about Glynis, 1023 00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:06,430 she had been placed with a good foster family 1024 00:51:06,463 --> 00:51:08,765 and they decided to give her a permanent home. 1025 00:51:08,799 --> 00:51:11,535 This story had a very happy ending. 1026 00:51:11,568 --> 00:51:13,770 (eerie music) 1027 00:51:13,804 --> 00:51:15,205 - Well, I only can give 1028 00:51:15,238 --> 00:51:17,774 you what's non-confidential information. 1029 00:51:17,808 --> 00:51:21,611 She was in our care facility for a short amount of time 1030 00:51:21,645 --> 00:51:22,579 and then she was placed 1031 00:51:22,612 --> 00:51:25,248 with a foster family by the name of Lasseter. 1032 00:51:26,783 --> 00:51:28,819 - Okay, here's what we know. 1033 00:51:28,852 --> 00:51:32,889 In 1979, the Howard's left Springfield 1034 00:51:32,923 --> 00:51:34,858 and according to everyone who remembers, 1035 00:51:34,891 --> 00:51:36,660 that house remained empty ever since. 1036 00:51:36,693 --> 00:51:39,830 Then in 1988 this little girl shows up claimin' 1037 00:51:39,863 --> 00:51:41,231 her last name is Howard, 1038 00:51:41,264 --> 00:51:42,766 but the Howard's didn't have any kids. 1039 00:51:42,799 --> 00:51:45,368 And if they did have a daughter, she would have to be what? 1040 00:51:45,402 --> 00:51:47,504 11, 12 years old by 1988. 1041 00:51:47,537 --> 00:51:49,272 So, the dates just don't add up. 1042 00:51:49,306 --> 00:51:52,375 I mean, if this really is the Howard's daughter. 1043 00:51:52,409 --> 00:51:55,278 - I say we find her, ask her some more questions. 1044 00:51:56,246 --> 00:51:57,280 - [Woman] Hi. 1045 00:52:00,517 --> 00:52:01,651 - Look at mommy! 1046 00:52:01,685 --> 00:52:03,520 - [Woman] Behave like a little lady. 1047 00:52:03,553 --> 00:52:05,622 You are six years old. 1048 00:52:05,655 --> 00:52:07,257 Stop jumping on that couch. 1049 00:52:07,290 --> 00:52:09,459 (Glynis giggles) 1050 00:52:09,493 --> 00:52:12,262 - [Kaiser] So, how was she as a child? 1051 00:52:12,295 --> 00:52:14,498 - Oh, she was very special child. 1052 00:52:14,531 --> 00:52:17,400 Yeah, smart, funny. 1053 00:52:17,434 --> 00:52:18,935 You couldn't ask for a better daughter. 1054 00:52:18,969 --> 00:52:23,440 Sweet, sweet as could be, but we knew right away. 1055 00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:26,309 We just knew that we were meant to be a family. 1056 00:52:26,343 --> 00:52:27,911 That's all I can tell you. 1057 00:52:27,944 --> 00:52:28,812 1989. 1058 00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:33,550 And that's whose birthday? 1059 00:52:33,583 --> 00:52:34,417 - Mine. 1060 00:52:34,451 --> 00:52:35,819 - [Ben] Yours? 1061 00:52:35,852 --> 00:52:37,187 Is it your birthday? 1062 00:52:38,388 --> 00:52:39,256 Huh? 1063 00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:41,258 Wow. 1064 00:52:41,291 --> 00:52:42,626 What have you been doing today? 1065 00:52:47,464 --> 00:52:48,832 - [Dwight] If you don't mind for the camera, 1066 00:52:48,865 --> 00:52:51,868 would you tell us your full first name and last name? 1067 00:52:51,902 --> 00:52:54,271 - It's Glynis Williams. 1068 00:52:54,304 --> 00:52:57,741 Williams is my married name, I got married last summer. 1069 00:52:58,942 --> 00:53:00,443 - [Dwight] So, tell us a little bit 1070 00:53:00,477 --> 00:53:01,745 about your life growin' up. 1071 00:53:04,915 --> 00:53:06,516 - Well, I'm happy to tell you 1072 00:53:06,550 --> 00:53:08,919 the story I told everybody else back then 1073 00:53:08,952 --> 00:53:12,656 but I was little was little, 1074 00:53:12,689 --> 00:53:13,723 I was really little, though. 1075 00:53:13,757 --> 00:53:16,726 So, I think memories can change. 1076 00:53:18,328 --> 00:53:18,995 But, 1077 00:53:24,901 --> 00:53:26,703 I was playing inside. 1078 00:53:27,737 --> 00:53:29,906 I mostly only played inside, 1079 00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:33,610 and somehow I ran out. 1080 00:53:33,643 --> 00:53:35,345 I don't know if I was chasing something or... 1081 00:53:35,378 --> 00:53:38,748 It's not really clear but I got all turned around 1082 00:53:38,782 --> 00:53:40,884 and I couldn't find my way back. 1083 00:53:40,917 --> 00:53:44,421 Now it kind of feels like a dream, 1084 00:53:44,454 --> 00:53:47,757 like pieces don't really fit, 1085 00:53:47,791 --> 00:53:50,894 but you swear it was real. 1086 00:53:50,927 --> 00:53:52,362 Swear it really happened. 1087 00:53:53,563 --> 00:53:54,397 And, 1088 00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:58,935 yeah, I must've walked for, 1089 00:54:00,470 --> 00:54:01,638 I walked for a really long time 1090 00:54:01,671 --> 00:54:03,640 and then I think someone drove by 1091 00:54:03,673 --> 00:54:05,408 and they called the police. 1092 00:54:06,943 --> 00:54:08,078 - [Dwight] Glynis, do you remember why 1093 00:54:08,111 --> 00:54:09,045 you said your last name was Howard? 1094 00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,481 - I thought it was. 1095 00:54:11,514 --> 00:54:12,382 I thought it was. 1096 00:54:14,684 --> 00:54:15,585 Even now when I hear it, 1097 00:54:15,619 --> 00:54:18,822 it still sounds like my name. 1098 00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:20,924 - [Dwight] Feels natural? 1099 00:54:20,957 --> 00:54:21,825 - Yeah. 1100 00:54:23,927 --> 00:54:25,829 - [Dwight] Do you remember your parents? 1101 00:54:27,130 --> 00:54:28,665 (Glynis chuckles) 1102 00:54:28,698 --> 00:54:29,599 - No, not really. 1103 00:54:29,633 --> 00:54:32,669 I (sighs) remember my dad. 1104 00:54:32,702 --> 00:54:34,304 I remember my dad a little bit. 1105 00:54:38,708 --> 00:54:41,044 And people told me about the real Howard family, 1106 00:54:44,714 --> 00:54:46,850 started to talk to me about it and told me 1107 00:54:46,883 --> 00:54:49,452 that there was no way I could be their kid. 1108 00:54:49,486 --> 00:54:50,687 That even if they had a kid, 1109 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,422 it was impossible I could even be theirs 1110 00:54:52,455 --> 00:54:54,791 because of my age and the time they lived in the house, 1111 00:54:54,824 --> 00:54:56,393 timelines and stuff. 1112 00:54:56,426 --> 00:54:57,761 And it just, nothing that would make sense to me, 1113 00:54:57,794 --> 00:54:58,995 a little kid. 1114 00:54:59,029 --> 00:55:03,900 A big, big part of me always felt like I was Glynis Howard. 1115 00:55:05,035 --> 00:55:08,805 And so, when I was 16 I actually looked up 1116 00:55:08,838 --> 00:55:10,840 the real Howard family, called 'em up. 1117 00:55:10,874 --> 00:55:13,076 And I thought if we could see each other 1118 00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:14,711 it would clear everything up. 1119 00:55:14,744 --> 00:55:16,413 You know? - Yeah. 1120 00:55:16,446 --> 00:55:20,550 - People would believe me, but I was wrong. 1121 00:55:21,551 --> 00:55:22,886 I had never seen them before. 1122 00:55:23,887 --> 00:55:25,689 (Glynis speaking indistinctly) 1123 00:55:25,722 --> 00:55:27,824 I've pretty much given up on that dream. 1124 00:55:29,592 --> 00:55:34,597 I used to have this fantasy that my real parents, 1125 00:55:36,066 --> 00:55:38,968 my birth parents would come back for me. 1126 00:55:39,903 --> 00:55:41,171 (Glynis laughs) 1127 00:55:41,204 --> 00:55:43,039 Like they didn't abandon me. 1128 00:55:43,073 --> 00:55:45,675 They just, lost in an accident or somethin'. 1129 00:55:49,045 --> 00:55:50,180 (Glynis sniffles) 1130 00:55:50,213 --> 00:55:51,881 I used to have a lot of fantasies back then, 1131 00:55:55,118 --> 00:55:58,755 that I was a princess or a time traveler. 1132 00:55:59,789 --> 00:56:01,091 (Dwight chuckles) 1133 00:56:01,124 --> 00:56:01,958 Yeah, to makes sense - Right there. 1134 00:56:01,991 --> 00:56:03,693 - [Glynis] of all the... 1135 00:56:03,727 --> 00:56:04,761 - Craziness? - Very, very pretty. 1136 00:56:04,794 --> 00:56:05,995 - Yeah, make sense - Okay. 1137 00:56:06,029 --> 00:56:07,630 - of all the missing pieces. - Too close. 1138 00:56:07,664 --> 00:56:09,799 - [Glynis] I would just... 1139 00:56:11,668 --> 00:56:13,970 I always wanted to be somethin' special. 1140 00:56:14,003 --> 00:56:15,138 - [Dwight] Speakin' of missing pieces, 1141 00:56:15,171 --> 00:56:17,173 I've got somethin' that I wanna show you. 1142 00:56:20,110 --> 00:56:22,178 Do you- - I know this. 1143 00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:23,146 - You recognize that box? - Yeah. 1144 00:56:23,179 --> 00:56:24,047 I... 1145 00:56:26,983 --> 00:56:28,518 - [Dwight] We found that in the Howard's house. 1146 00:56:28,551 --> 00:56:30,453 It was buried with some other things. 1147 00:56:34,023 --> 00:56:35,191 Yeah, I... 1148 00:56:35,225 --> 00:56:37,427 This was, I remember this. 1149 00:56:38,595 --> 00:56:41,531 I think you wind it on the bottom here. 1150 00:56:41,564 --> 00:56:42,832 (music box playing) 1151 00:56:42,866 --> 00:56:43,733 Yeah. 1152 00:56:45,702 --> 00:56:50,707 Oh my gosh. (music box playing) 1153 00:56:58,615 --> 00:57:00,216 (sniffles) That's crazy. 1154 00:57:00,250 --> 00:57:01,117 I... 1155 00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:04,120 Yeah, this was... 1156 00:57:06,122 --> 00:57:08,892 (sniffles) 1157 00:57:08,925 --> 00:57:10,627 (dramatic music) 1158 00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:11,861 This was mine (sniffles). 1159 00:57:13,863 --> 00:57:16,666 (pensive music) 1160 00:57:18,001 --> 00:57:20,703 - [Charlie] Why would they bury all of her things here? 1161 00:57:23,873 --> 00:57:25,041 - I don't know. 1162 00:57:25,074 --> 00:57:26,209 What do you think? 1163 00:57:26,242 --> 00:57:27,710 - [Dwight] I don't know. 1164 00:57:27,744 --> 00:57:30,480 (pensive music) 1165 00:57:33,116 --> 00:57:36,219 - [Kaiser] Is she really a lost child of the Howard's? 1166 00:57:36,252 --> 00:57:38,721 As intriguing as that theory sounds, 1167 00:57:38,755 --> 00:57:41,925 we needed to focus on the more plausible explanations. 1168 00:57:41,958 --> 00:57:43,827 - [Woman] Have fun on your big day. 1169 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:45,595 Happy birthday. 1170 00:57:45,628 --> 00:57:46,996 - [Girl] Who, me? 1171 00:57:48,164 --> 00:57:49,666 - [Kaiser] During our investigation, 1172 00:57:49,699 --> 00:57:51,768 Dwight was called back in for questioning, 1173 00:57:51,801 --> 00:57:54,804 as more evidence of his possible involvement was discovered. 1174 00:57:56,172 --> 00:57:57,640 - Do you know this man? 1175 00:58:00,043 --> 00:58:01,711 - I don't believe so. 1176 00:58:01,744 --> 00:58:03,046 - [Detective] Edward Baker. 1177 00:58:04,914 --> 00:58:05,882 - Yeah, yeah. 1178 00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:08,284 Sure, I'm sorry, yeah. 1179 00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:10,887 - Were you aware that your wife knew him? 1180 00:58:12,021 --> 00:58:13,990 - Yeah, they would hustle together. 1181 00:58:14,023 --> 00:58:16,726 (gentle music) 1182 00:58:16,759 --> 00:58:17,994 - [Kaiser] Edward Baker was born 1183 00:58:18,027 --> 00:58:20,163 and raised in Springfield, Tennessee, 1184 00:58:20,196 --> 00:58:22,265 and was a close childhood friend of Emily 1185 00:58:22,298 --> 00:58:23,933 and their friendship turned into something more 1186 00:58:23,967 --> 00:58:25,969 when they dated throughout high school. 1187 00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:29,973 - They were sweet together. 1188 00:58:30,006 --> 00:58:32,175 I thought they were the perfect pair. 1189 00:58:32,208 --> 00:58:33,910 - They seemed pretty cute. 1190 00:58:33,943 --> 00:58:38,181 Very flirtatious around each other, high school sweetheart. 1191 00:58:38,214 --> 00:58:40,817 - Eddie was two years ahead of us. 1192 00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:42,552 Yeah, they were always together. 1193 00:58:44,921 --> 00:58:49,926 - When she went off to college, they broke up unfortunately. 1194 00:58:51,261 --> 00:58:52,195 - [Ashley] They tried the long distance relationship, 1195 00:58:52,228 --> 00:58:53,663 but it just didn't work out. 1196 00:58:53,696 --> 00:58:54,864 - [Kaiser] So, when she came back here, 1197 00:58:54,898 --> 00:58:56,833 they started hanging out again? 1198 00:58:56,866 --> 00:58:58,334 - Yeah, I mean, he worked a few blocks away 1199 00:58:58,368 --> 00:59:01,337 in this office building over here down on Eighth 1200 00:59:01,371 --> 00:59:05,174 and he'd come by for lunch or just to visit. 1201 00:59:06,809 --> 00:59:09,212 - When Emily moved back to take care of her mom, 1202 00:59:09,245 --> 00:59:12,382 of course Edward came around and we hung out with everybody. 1203 00:59:12,415 --> 00:59:14,384 So, it wasn't unusual for him to be around. 1204 00:59:14,417 --> 00:59:16,085 - They still hang out time to time. 1205 00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:17,687 I'm not sure if Dwight knows about it, 1206 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,689 but I mean, it's just a friendship. 1207 00:59:19,722 --> 00:59:20,790 Everybody knows that. 1208 00:59:20,823 --> 00:59:22,825 - Thank you for moving here. 1209 00:59:22,859 --> 00:59:23,793 - [Dwight] You're welcome. 1210 00:59:23,826 --> 00:59:25,328 - [Heather] Dwight's not really a fan of Eddie. 1211 00:59:25,361 --> 00:59:27,830 I mean, can you blame him? 1212 00:59:27,864 --> 00:59:30,300 - Dwight just like, really did not like 1213 00:59:30,333 --> 00:59:32,735 that Edward was comin' around 1214 00:59:32,769 --> 00:59:34,404 and I think he kind of let that be known. 1215 00:59:34,437 --> 00:59:37,040 - [Dwight] I think when you start makin' that family- 1216 00:59:37,073 --> 00:59:38,408 - You wanna start right now? 1217 00:59:38,441 --> 00:59:39,809 - [Dwight] Oh, we can just pull over right now. 1218 00:59:39,842 --> 00:59:41,878 - No, no, no, no, no, no (laughs). 1219 00:59:41,911 --> 00:59:43,980 Let's at least get home first (laughs). 1220 00:59:44,013 --> 00:59:47,283 (Dwight laughs) 1221 00:59:47,317 --> 00:59:51,888 - Were you aware of Edward and your wife's history? 1222 00:59:51,921 --> 00:59:54,390 - Yeah, they dated in high school. 1223 00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:56,893 - Did you know that they were havin' an affair? 1224 01:00:01,164 --> 01:00:02,298 - What makes you say that? 1225 01:00:02,332 --> 01:00:05,735 - Mr. Baker came forward yesterday. 1226 01:00:05,768 --> 01:00:08,838 He was a little worried, feelin' guilty. 1227 01:00:08,871 --> 01:00:10,073 Thought that this information 1228 01:00:10,106 --> 01:00:12,075 might help our investigation a little bit. 1229 01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:15,445 - Why were you havin' lunch with your ex-boyfriend? 1230 01:00:15,478 --> 01:00:16,846 Emily, what the hell 1231 01:00:16,879 --> 01:00:17,981 is wrong with y'all? - We're just friends! 1232 01:00:18,014 --> 01:00:19,148 - Just friends, right. - You knew that 1233 01:00:19,182 --> 01:00:20,183 - Then why didn't - when you moved here. 1234 01:00:20,216 --> 01:00:21,150 - you tell me about him? - You knew. 1235 01:00:21,184 --> 01:00:23,920 - Mr. Nixon, I don't have a body 1236 01:00:23,953 --> 01:00:26,189 and I don't have a murder weapon 1237 01:00:26,222 --> 01:00:30,326 but what I do have is a motive. 1238 01:00:31,928 --> 01:00:33,429 - We're through. 1239 01:00:33,463 --> 01:00:36,032 ♪ Remember the free 1240 01:00:36,065 --> 01:00:41,070 ♪ Remember to hold your head high ♪ 1241 01:00:42,972 --> 01:00:45,975 ♪ Remember to smile some 1242 01:00:46,009 --> 01:00:50,980 ♪ And just listen awhile 1243 01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:55,151 ♪ Practiced enough, yeah 1244 01:00:55,184 --> 01:00:58,788 ♪ That's what I told myself 1245 01:00:58,821 --> 01:00:59,455 Look at us. 1246 01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:00,289 - Mm hm. 1247 01:01:00,323 --> 01:01:01,457 - Play with you. 1248 01:01:01,491 --> 01:01:04,460 ♪ Nervously asked you your name ♪ 1249 01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:09,699 ♪ And that's when the world seemed to stop ♪ 1250 01:01:10,833 --> 01:01:14,270 ♪ And I'd died when you looked up like that ♪ 1251 01:01:14,303 --> 01:01:16,739 ♪ Took my breath away 1252 01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:19,142 ♪ Knocked me flat on my back 1253 01:01:19,175 --> 01:01:21,310 ♪ I knew right then and there 1254 01:01:21,344 --> 01:01:24,180 ♪ In that first second stare 1255 01:01:24,213 --> 01:01:29,085 ♪ It would be awhile 1256 01:01:29,118 --> 01:01:33,523 ♪ And everything falls out of focus ♪ 1257 01:01:33,556 --> 01:01:36,359 ♪ You walked through the door 1258 01:01:36,392 --> 01:01:40,997 ♪ And one thing that's clear to me helplessly hopeless ♪ 1259 01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:45,968 ♪ I'm all right with that in a room full of people ♪ 1260 01:01:46,002 --> 01:01:49,806 ♪ Everything else disappears 1261 01:01:53,376 --> 01:01:56,379 We need to keep our focus on Wayne Ritchie. 1262 01:01:56,412 --> 01:01:58,981 Wayne practically grew up on the land, 1263 01:01:59,015 --> 01:02:00,550 and his house is nearby. 1264 01:02:00,583 --> 01:02:03,419 I've been lookin' at the city history, 1265 01:02:04,420 --> 01:02:06,122 old maps and things like that. 1266 01:02:07,256 --> 01:02:10,426 So, what I'm wonderin' is if this entrance 1267 01:02:10,460 --> 01:02:13,830 or this cave actually right here near Wayne's house 1268 01:02:13,863 --> 01:02:16,799 runs towards the Howard's land, or maybe even underneath. 1269 01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:19,469 We need to check this out and see 1270 01:02:19,502 --> 01:02:22,271 if we can find any tunnels or anything like that 1271 01:02:22,305 --> 01:02:25,541 that maybe some of these people could have just fallen into. 1272 01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:28,177 (eerie music) 1273 01:02:29,979 --> 01:02:31,547 - We headed out to find the cave, 1274 01:02:31,581 --> 01:02:34,417 and see if it could answer some of our questions. 1275 01:02:34,450 --> 01:02:37,053 Not knowing the exact location of the cave, 1276 01:02:37,086 --> 01:02:40,156 we decided to split up to cover more ground. 1277 01:02:40,189 --> 01:02:42,558 Charlie and I headed directly east, 1278 01:02:42,592 --> 01:02:44,360 while Dwight headed northeast. 1279 01:02:47,230 --> 01:02:48,064 Here you go. 1280 01:02:48,097 --> 01:02:50,800 (eerie music) 1281 01:02:54,237 --> 01:02:55,304 Dwight, do you copy? 1282 01:02:58,441 --> 01:03:01,177 - [Dwight] Yes, go ahead. 1283 01:03:01,210 --> 01:03:02,178 - Just testing the range. 1284 01:03:02,211 --> 01:03:03,212 Do you see anything? 1285 01:03:06,082 --> 01:03:08,518 - [Dwight] No, nothing yet. 1286 01:03:08,551 --> 01:03:09,418 You guys? 1287 01:03:12,455 --> 01:03:13,322 - Just woods. 1288 01:03:13,356 --> 01:03:16,058 (eerie music) 1289 01:03:28,070 --> 01:03:30,106 Charlie, come here! 1290 01:03:30,139 --> 01:03:31,207 I found it! 1291 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,074 - [Charlie] Seriously? 1292 01:03:32,108 --> 01:03:32,942 - Yes! 1293 01:03:32,975 --> 01:03:33,910 It's gotta be it. 1294 01:03:33,943 --> 01:03:34,544 It's the only cave we've seen. 1295 01:03:34,577 --> 01:03:35,478 Come on, come on. 1296 01:03:35,511 --> 01:03:36,512 Dwight, do you copy? 1297 01:03:39,248 --> 01:03:40,116 Dwight? 1298 01:03:41,651 --> 01:03:43,219 - [Charlie] He's probably out of range. 1299 01:03:43,252 --> 01:03:47,256 - [Kaiser] It probably goes down 20 feet, it's narrow. 1300 01:03:47,290 --> 01:03:50,092 - [Charlie] Okay, I don't wanna risk the camera. 1301 01:03:50,126 --> 01:03:51,661 I guess I'll shoot on my phone. 1302 01:03:51,694 --> 01:03:53,029 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1303 01:03:53,062 --> 01:03:53,930 let's do that. - Okay, let's go. 1304 01:03:53,963 --> 01:03:55,198 - [Kaiser] Okay. 1305 01:03:55,231 --> 01:03:56,199 Charlie, how you doin'? 1306 01:03:56,232 --> 01:03:58,267 - [Charlie] I'm doin' okay. 1307 01:03:58,301 --> 01:03:59,235 How'd you get down - All right, be careful. 1308 01:03:59,268 --> 01:04:00,436 - [Charlie] there so fast? 1309 01:04:00,469 --> 01:04:03,239 - [Kaiser] (chuckles) That's a good question. 1310 01:04:03,272 --> 01:04:05,975 (eerie music) 1311 01:04:09,278 --> 01:04:10,646 - [Charlie] Do you wanna try Dwight again? 1312 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,148 - [Kaiser] Yeah, good idea. 1313 01:04:14,550 --> 01:04:16,052 Dwight, do you copy? 1314 01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:18,654 Dwight? 1315 01:04:18,688 --> 01:04:20,389 We're in the cave right now. 1316 01:04:20,423 --> 01:04:23,092 Just wanna let you know if you can hear us. 1317 01:04:23,125 --> 01:04:24,493 - Oo! - Feel like our range 1318 01:04:24,527 --> 01:04:25,394 is still bad. 1319 01:04:26,662 --> 01:04:27,563 You good? 1320 01:04:27,597 --> 01:04:29,265 - [Charlie] Yeah, I'm good. 1321 01:04:29,298 --> 01:04:30,333 All right. - Look at this thing, 1322 01:04:30,366 --> 01:04:32,668 it's like an altar or something. 1323 01:04:35,171 --> 01:04:36,439 - [Charlie] It's crazy! 1324 01:04:36,472 --> 01:04:37,640 Look how steep it is. 1325 01:04:37,673 --> 01:04:42,178 I just wonder how far or where we are 1326 01:04:42,211 --> 01:04:44,480 in relation to the Howard's property. 1327 01:04:48,217 --> 01:04:49,518 Kaiser? 1328 01:04:49,552 --> 01:04:50,686 Kaiser? 1329 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,188 - [Kaiser] Hey, hey, I'm right here. 1330 01:04:53,322 --> 01:04:54,957 - [Charlie] Okay. 1331 01:04:54,991 --> 01:04:56,325 - [Kaiser] I went down this way and it dead ended. 1332 01:04:56,359 --> 01:04:58,027 Did you find anything? 1333 01:04:58,060 --> 01:05:00,162 I found this weird little entrance thing 1334 01:05:00,196 --> 01:05:02,298 over here and I don't know. 1335 01:05:02,331 --> 01:05:07,336 I just, I feel like it might be a cave in. 1336 01:05:08,137 --> 01:05:09,238 - [Charlie] A cave in? 1337 01:05:09,272 --> 01:05:11,374 - [Kaiser] Yeah, I mean the walls are wet. 1338 01:05:15,077 --> 01:05:15,711 - [Charlie] Wet? 1339 01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:17,313 - Yeah. 1340 01:05:17,346 --> 01:05:20,149 But the only thing is it's blocked off up ahead. 1341 01:05:20,182 --> 01:05:22,451 I don't think we can go any further. 1342 01:05:25,087 --> 01:05:26,289 - All right, you guys okay? 1343 01:05:26,322 --> 01:05:27,390 - [Kaiser] Yeah, we're good. 1344 01:05:27,423 --> 01:05:28,224 You okay? - Yeah, I'm good. 1345 01:05:28,257 --> 01:05:30,026 Did you find anything? 1346 01:05:30,059 --> 01:05:31,627 - Well, we didn't make it too far in 1347 01:05:31,661 --> 01:05:33,195 before we hit a blocked part 1348 01:05:33,229 --> 01:05:36,065 but it looks like it might be a cave-in, though. 1349 01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,701 The rocks are wet, water ran down the walls. 1350 01:05:38,734 --> 01:05:41,370 - So maybe the cave was under the pond? 1351 01:05:41,404 --> 01:05:44,106 (eerie music) 1352 01:05:45,374 --> 01:05:48,577 After exploring the cave, I think at one time 1353 01:05:48,611 --> 01:05:51,247 the cave extended past the area, which is now a pond. 1354 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,415 Take a look at this. 1355 01:05:52,448 --> 01:05:56,085 Here's the cave and here's where Sarah Winston disappeared, 1356 01:05:56,118 --> 01:05:59,121 in the same spot where the pond was built six years later. 1357 01:05:59,155 --> 01:06:01,557 Emily's metal detector ring where we found it, 1358 01:06:01,590 --> 01:06:03,526 this is where the Lopez's disappeared. 1359 01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:05,094 The Howard's house. 1360 01:06:05,127 --> 01:06:06,796 It's all one line. 1361 01:06:06,829 --> 01:06:09,198 So, if the cave does run underneath all these spots, 1362 01:06:09,231 --> 01:06:10,333 this could all be connected. 1363 01:06:10,366 --> 01:06:13,469 (eerie music) 1364 01:06:13,502 --> 01:06:16,672 - There are caves everywhere in Robertson County 1365 01:06:16,706 --> 01:06:20,343 and we are told that they are all connected. 1366 01:06:20,376 --> 01:06:23,279 And at Cross Plains you have Kilgore Cave 1367 01:06:23,312 --> 01:06:26,449 where Thomas Kilgore, the first white person 1368 01:06:26,482 --> 01:06:28,250 in Robertson County spent 1369 01:06:28,284 --> 01:06:31,187 the winter hiding from the Indians. 1370 01:06:31,220 --> 01:06:34,223 Our historical society had our annual picnic there 1371 01:06:34,256 --> 01:06:36,392 about two weeks ago. 1372 01:06:36,425 --> 01:06:37,693 - [Dwight] If we could get a better understanding 1373 01:06:37,727 --> 01:06:39,528 of what's below the property, 1374 01:06:39,562 --> 01:06:42,398 it could help us get answers about the disappearances. 1375 01:06:42,431 --> 01:06:44,767 - The Vietcong had networks 1376 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,636 of tunnels that they used during the Vietnam War. 1377 01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:51,140 They could come up through one of these openings, 1378 01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:53,142 they could snatch someone out of the platoon 1379 01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:56,412 down into the tunnel, seal up the hatch, 1380 01:06:56,445 --> 01:06:58,247 and nobody would know what's going on. 1381 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,149 They'd be like, "Where's Joe?" 1382 01:07:00,182 --> 01:07:01,817 Well, Joe's down in the bowels 1383 01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:03,319 of the earth somewhere. 1384 01:07:03,352 --> 01:07:06,055 (eerie music) 1385 01:07:09,825 --> 01:07:10,993 - Right now they're gonna be runnin' 1386 01:07:11,026 --> 01:07:13,763 some ground penetrating radar over the top of the site. 1387 01:07:13,796 --> 01:07:15,831 They'll lay out a grid pattern first and literally, 1388 01:07:15,865 --> 01:07:17,233 it'll map out every inch, 1389 01:07:17,266 --> 01:07:19,702 it'll penetrate just like a water saw does. 1390 01:07:19,735 --> 01:07:21,570 So if we had any ground that's been disturbed recently 1391 01:07:21,604 --> 01:07:24,340 or any type of cave system underneath us, 1392 01:07:24,373 --> 01:07:25,641 it'll pick that up as well. 1393 01:07:25,674 --> 01:07:27,643 Once they identify a cave or a cavern, 1394 01:07:27,676 --> 01:07:30,546 we'll be able to identify whether it does connect 1395 01:07:30,579 --> 01:07:33,449 to any other systems on the property, includin' the pond. 1396 01:07:35,251 --> 01:07:36,719 - [Man] One, two, three. 1397 01:07:37,787 --> 01:07:39,088 There you go. 1398 01:07:44,493 --> 01:07:46,629 - We're looking at the site scanning sonar, 1399 01:07:46,662 --> 01:07:48,831 which is directly underneath the boat, 1400 01:07:48,864 --> 01:07:51,434 penetrates all the way down to the bottom of the lake. 1401 01:07:51,467 --> 01:07:52,802 - Okay, so if there's a body, 1402 01:07:52,835 --> 01:07:55,571 it should appear like a white blob or a white- 1403 01:07:55,604 --> 01:07:56,739 - Yes, on either screen here, 1404 01:07:56,772 --> 01:07:58,874 it'll come up either white or kinda grayish. 1405 01:07:58,908 --> 01:08:00,543 It'll pick up anything that might've fallen 1406 01:08:00,576 --> 01:08:02,244 into the lake accidentally and maybe drowned, 1407 01:08:02,278 --> 01:08:03,612 such as an animal. 1408 01:08:03,646 --> 01:08:05,448 So, we don't wanna put a diver down on somethin' 1409 01:08:05,481 --> 01:08:06,682 that's not truly human remains. 1410 01:08:06,715 --> 01:08:07,817 As you come up here if you look at that 1411 01:08:07,850 --> 01:08:09,652 where the boat is right now, 1412 01:08:09,685 --> 01:08:11,253 directly underneath there, 1413 01:08:11,287 --> 01:08:14,523 you can see a black kind of indentation to the red U, 1414 01:08:14,557 --> 01:08:17,526 and that's an indication that there is an opening there. 1415 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,362 - By opening deep, do you mean like a cave or- 1416 01:08:20,396 --> 01:08:21,530 - It can be a cave or it could be 1417 01:08:21,564 --> 01:08:22,565 just a really big depression 1418 01:08:22,598 --> 01:08:23,699 in the bottom of the lake 1419 01:08:23,732 --> 01:08:25,801 but that would appear to be a cave. 1420 01:08:25,835 --> 01:08:27,236 It's goin' that northerly direction, 1421 01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:30,306 almost directly where the boat is right now. 1422 01:08:30,339 --> 01:08:31,774 - So, in the same direction as the house? 1423 01:08:31,807 --> 01:08:33,175 - Same direction as the house. 1424 01:08:33,209 --> 01:08:36,245 (dramatic music) 1425 01:08:36,278 --> 01:08:37,480 - [Kaiser] Have you guys ever found a shaft 1426 01:08:37,513 --> 01:08:39,248 that connects to a whole cave system? 1427 01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:40,483 - Absolutely. 1428 01:08:40,516 --> 01:08:41,784 And that's most of the time what you do find. 1429 01:08:41,817 --> 01:08:43,886 You'll find a smaller opening that'll lead 1430 01:08:43,919 --> 01:08:46,555 into a bigger cavern or a bigger opening. 1431 01:08:46,589 --> 01:08:48,457 Diving in the shaft is extremely dangerous 1432 01:08:48,491 --> 01:08:50,726 'cause only one diver can go one at a time. 1433 01:08:50,759 --> 01:08:52,561 So, we're gonna take every precaution we can 1434 01:08:52,595 --> 01:08:53,963 to make sure the divers stay safe. 1435 01:08:53,996 --> 01:08:56,765 - [Kaiser] Which one of you are going down the shaft? 1436 01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:58,367 - T-Roy. 1437 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,236 - [Kaiser] So, you've done this a few times? 1438 01:09:00,269 --> 01:09:01,403 - Yes. 1439 01:09:01,437 --> 01:09:02,571 - [Kaiser] What's it like down there? 1440 01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:04,306 - It's tight. 1441 01:09:08,777 --> 01:09:09,979 - So, what we're seein' down 1442 01:09:10,012 --> 01:09:12,214 there right now is low visibility. 1443 01:09:13,883 --> 01:09:14,817 - See by the (indistinct). 1444 01:09:14,850 --> 01:09:17,186 - [T-Roy] Located the shaft. 1445 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:18,954 - [Mike] Top side, copy. 1446 01:09:18,988 --> 01:09:20,322 Located the shaft. 1447 01:09:20,356 --> 01:09:22,424 - [T-Roy] Proceeding down the shaft. 1448 01:09:23,826 --> 01:09:25,861 The walls are rock solid. 1449 01:09:27,963 --> 01:09:28,964 - Top side, copy. 1450 01:09:28,998 --> 01:09:31,300 Rock walled, entering the shaft. 1451 01:09:31,333 --> 01:09:32,935 Real good sign that we're in rock walls, 1452 01:09:32,968 --> 01:09:34,970 so this potentially could be a cave system. 1453 01:09:35,004 --> 01:09:36,472 The shaft should connect us down to the bottom. 1454 01:09:36,505 --> 01:09:38,641 This is not the bottom of the lake. 1455 01:09:38,674 --> 01:09:40,876 He's about 10 feet down now. 1456 01:09:43,879 --> 01:09:46,715 - [T-Roy] I've reached the front of the shaft. 1457 01:09:46,749 --> 01:09:47,583 Feeling the wall. 1458 01:09:47,616 --> 01:09:49,318 Hang on a sec. 1459 01:09:49,351 --> 01:09:51,820 Solid, looks like a (indistinct). 1460 01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:52,821 Solid (indistinct). 1461 01:09:55,724 --> 01:09:58,294 Top side, we have remains. 1462 01:09:58,327 --> 01:09:59,428 - What'd he just say? - Top side, copy. 1463 01:09:59,461 --> 01:10:00,429 We have remains. 1464 01:10:00,462 --> 01:10:01,630 They have remains. 1465 01:10:01,664 --> 01:10:02,998 See the girl on the GoPro? (T-Roy speaking indistinctly) 1466 01:10:03,032 --> 01:10:04,600 And you have it here on the sonar. 1467 01:10:04,633 --> 01:10:05,768 You see the difference in that white-ish gray 1468 01:10:05,801 --> 01:10:07,336 we were talkin' about earlier. 1469 01:10:07,369 --> 01:10:08,737 You can start to see the remains right there. 1470 01:10:08,771 --> 01:10:10,706 - We don't know what kind of remains though, right? 1471 01:10:10,739 --> 01:10:12,741 - We don't know until he can physically 1472 01:10:12,775 --> 01:10:14,810 and visually get up on top of it. 1473 01:10:17,646 --> 01:10:19,882 - [T-Roy] These are human remains. 1474 01:10:19,915 --> 01:10:20,883 Definitely remains. 1475 01:10:20,916 --> 01:10:22,284 Float the buoy. 1476 01:10:23,052 --> 01:10:24,386 - Top side, copy. 1477 01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:25,921 Human remains, floatin' the buoy. 1478 01:10:26,889 --> 01:10:28,490 (Dwight exhales) 1479 01:10:28,524 --> 01:10:33,529 (pensive music) (water gurgling) 1480 01:10:34,763 --> 01:10:36,365 - [Susanna] This is Susanna Connor reporting 1481 01:10:36,398 --> 01:10:38,567 for Channel 2 News from an abandoned piece 1482 01:10:38,601 --> 01:10:40,603 of farmland outside of Springfield, 1483 01:10:40,636 --> 01:10:44,573 where skeletal remains of a young girl have been found. 1484 01:10:44,607 --> 01:10:46,976 (eerie music) 1485 01:11:20,609 --> 01:11:23,345 (phone ringing) 1486 01:11:26,015 --> 01:11:26,882 - Yeah. 1487 01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:30,552 Okay, yeah, no, no, I appreciate it. 1488 01:11:30,586 --> 01:11:31,820 The results are in. 1489 01:11:31,854 --> 01:11:33,922 The body was identified as Sarah Winston. 1490 01:11:34,823 --> 01:11:36,525 (dramatic music) 1491 01:11:36,558 --> 01:11:38,961 (singer vocalizing) 1492 01:11:38,994 --> 01:11:40,996 - [Roger] I knew she was still out there. 1493 01:11:42,598 --> 01:11:45,000 - [Kaiser] Wait, how did Sarah end up in the pond? 1494 01:11:45,034 --> 01:11:46,368 It wasn't there in 1994. 1495 01:11:47,469 --> 01:11:50,472 (singer vocalizing) 1496 01:11:58,647 --> 01:12:01,483 - So, if the Howard's left Springfield in 1979, 1497 01:12:01,517 --> 01:12:03,118 and hadn't returned, then who built 1498 01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:04,720 that pond on that property? 1499 01:12:04,753 --> 01:12:07,690 - That big sinkhole opened up over there. 1500 01:12:07,723 --> 01:12:09,091 It was in '98. 1501 01:12:09,124 --> 01:12:10,859 It just boom, like that. 1502 01:12:10,893 --> 01:12:12,928 - And that hole was massive. 1503 01:12:12,961 --> 01:12:14,530 I went over there several times 1504 01:12:14,563 --> 01:12:16,632 to just stand there and look down into the thing. 1505 01:12:16,665 --> 01:12:17,599 It was huge. 1506 01:12:17,633 --> 01:12:19,101 - With the Howard's gone, 1507 01:12:19,134 --> 01:12:20,836 nobody went up there to put any sign 1508 01:12:20,869 --> 01:12:23,038 to warn people about it. 1509 01:12:23,072 --> 01:12:24,640 - A farmer's cow wandered off 1510 01:12:24,673 --> 01:12:29,011 and ended up in that sinkhole, fell right in. 1511 01:12:29,044 --> 01:12:30,412 - We did get her out, though. 1512 01:12:30,446 --> 01:12:32,815 She was kinda shaken up but she's okay. 1513 01:12:32,848 --> 01:12:35,818 - Yes, Sir, because of safety purposes, 1514 01:12:35,851 --> 01:12:39,188 we agreed to fill the pond in with water. 1515 01:12:39,221 --> 01:12:41,156 Well, they went in and filled it with rock 1516 01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:44,727 and hard clay and stuff just to try 1517 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,629 to build a base in it where it would retain the water. 1518 01:12:47,663 --> 01:12:49,031 - [Kaiser] Who filled up that sinkhole? 1519 01:12:49,064 --> 01:12:50,566 - Wayne Ritchie. 1520 01:12:50,599 --> 01:12:52,768 - That pond was built by Wayne Ritchie. 1521 01:12:52,801 --> 01:12:54,002 - Wayne Ritchie. 1522 01:12:54,036 --> 01:12:57,005 - Well, I loaned him the equipment to do it with 1523 01:12:57,039 --> 01:12:59,041 in exchange for fishin' rights of course. 1524 01:13:00,809 --> 01:13:05,814 - My first thought was that he drowned her somewhere else, 1525 01:13:06,949 --> 01:13:08,784 kept her body and then moved her back 1526 01:13:08,817 --> 01:13:11,186 to the pond once he built it. 1527 01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:12,621 - [Kaiser] Could Sarah's body have been moved 1528 01:13:12,654 --> 01:13:14,790 to the pond after she was murdered? 1529 01:13:14,823 --> 01:13:15,924 We would need to talk 1530 01:13:15,958 --> 01:13:17,760 to the forensic pathologist to find out. 1531 01:13:17,793 --> 01:13:20,195 - After we determined that the cause 1532 01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:23,232 or manner of death was not from gunshot or a stab wound, 1533 01:13:23,265 --> 01:13:26,668 we then turned our investigation towards drowning 1534 01:13:26,702 --> 01:13:29,805 since the skeleton was found in the pond. 1535 01:13:29,838 --> 01:13:34,843 We were gonna look at the presence or absence of diatoms. 1536 01:13:35,978 --> 01:13:37,479 - [Kaiser] Diatoms are photosynthesizing algae 1537 01:13:37,513 --> 01:13:40,115 that are present in every aquatic environment. 1538 01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:42,117 - When we studied the bone marrow, 1539 01:13:42,151 --> 01:13:45,053 we noticed diatoms present, 1540 01:13:45,087 --> 01:13:48,624 indicating that the cause of death was drowning. 1541 01:13:48,657 --> 01:13:50,559 - [Kaiser] Every body of water has its own unique 1542 01:13:50,592 --> 01:13:53,228 and distinct form of diatom, 1543 01:13:53,262 --> 01:13:54,730 kind of like a fingerprint. 1544 01:13:56,031 --> 01:13:59,101 - We took a sample in the pond at Howard's Mill 1545 01:13:59,134 --> 01:14:03,238 and studied the signature of the diatoms present. 1546 01:14:03,272 --> 01:14:07,943 Interestingly, it was an exact match to the diatoms present 1547 01:14:07,976 --> 01:14:10,045 in the bone marrow of Sarah Winston. 1548 01:14:10,078 --> 01:14:11,847 - [Kaiser] The presence of diatoms in the lungs 1549 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,849 and bone marrow would indicate 1550 01:14:13,882 --> 01:14:17,252 that the person entered the water alive and then drowned. 1551 01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:20,055 The absence of diatoms would prove a body had been dumped 1552 01:14:20,088 --> 01:14:22,224 in the water after they were deceased. 1553 01:14:22,257 --> 01:14:24,259 - Based on these findings, the science shows 1554 01:14:24,293 --> 01:14:27,930 that Sarah Winston actually drowned in 2004. 1555 01:14:27,963 --> 01:14:30,632 (eerie music) 1556 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,970 - So in 1994, 10-year-old Sarah Winston disappears. 1557 01:14:35,003 --> 01:14:37,840 In 2017 the body of Sarah Winston is found 1558 01:14:37,873 --> 01:14:39,741 in the pond on Howard's Mill, 1559 01:14:41,076 --> 01:14:44,279 but the forensics report shows she drowned in 2004. 1560 01:14:44,313 --> 01:14:46,748 So, that means she should have been 20 years old 1561 01:14:46,782 --> 01:14:49,084 in 2004 when she drowned, 1562 01:14:49,117 --> 01:14:50,886 but she was still at 10 years old, 1563 01:14:50,919 --> 01:14:54,523 the same age she was in 1994 before the pond was ever built. 1564 01:14:56,124 --> 01:14:57,626 Are you confused yet? 1565 01:14:57,659 --> 01:14:59,928 (eerie music) 1566 01:14:59,962 --> 01:15:02,931 - Human time travel may not be probable 1567 01:15:02,965 --> 01:15:07,102 but it is potentially possible. 1568 01:15:08,937 --> 01:15:13,275 Technically, we are all time travelers. 1569 01:15:14,977 --> 01:15:18,046 In the past 24 hours, I traveled one day in time. 1570 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,915 I presume that you did too. 1571 01:15:20,883 --> 01:15:22,751 The real question is whether 1572 01:15:22,784 --> 01:15:26,755 or not different people travel faster than others. 1573 01:15:26,788 --> 01:15:28,357 Einstein thought so. 1574 01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:30,659 In the case of Sarah Winston, 1575 01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:35,697 you have forensic proof that a 10-year-old girl disappeared 1576 01:15:36,832 --> 01:15:40,235 and then drowned at the same age 10 years later. 1577 01:15:42,204 --> 01:15:43,805 The Glynis Howard story doesn't 1578 01:15:43,839 --> 01:15:45,207 have the science to back it up, 1579 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,844 but the coincidence of them both happening 1580 01:15:48,877 --> 01:15:51,914 on the same piece of bland is compelling. 1581 01:15:51,947 --> 01:15:53,315 - [Kaiser] Are you saying you believe 1582 01:15:53,348 --> 01:15:56,151 that Sarah Winston traveled 10 years into the future, 1583 01:15:56,184 --> 01:15:59,054 returning to this exact same spot she disappeared 1584 01:15:59,087 --> 01:16:02,190 where a pond had been built and then drowned? 1585 01:16:02,224 --> 01:16:03,358 - You have two related cases 1586 01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:05,794 of people with age discrepancies 1587 01:16:05,827 --> 01:16:07,329 connected to the same location, 1588 01:16:07,362 --> 01:16:09,031 and one of them is still living. 1589 01:16:12,034 --> 01:16:14,836 I would ask the one that's still living. 1590 01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:17,272 (eerie music) 1591 01:16:27,449 --> 01:16:30,185 (door creaking) 1592 01:16:35,791 --> 01:16:36,658 - Yeah. 1593 01:16:39,328 --> 01:16:40,796 It's all familiar. 1594 01:16:42,297 --> 01:16:44,967 (eerie music) 1595 01:16:52,174 --> 01:16:53,041 - Your old room. 1596 01:16:54,810 --> 01:16:55,677 - No. 1597 01:16:57,179 --> 01:17:00,315 No, I've never been in this room before. 1598 01:17:00,349 --> 01:17:03,251 - [Dwight] But this is the only child's room in the house. 1599 01:17:08,957 --> 01:17:10,993 - I don't remember this room. 1600 01:17:12,894 --> 01:17:15,731 When I, I remember I took naps though, 1601 01:17:15,764 --> 01:17:17,299 upstairs in this room. 1602 01:17:17,332 --> 01:17:20,002 (eerie music) 1603 01:17:23,939 --> 01:17:28,944 Yeah, I took naps in here with my dad, 1604 01:17:30,078 --> 01:17:34,082 but I had my own room, was in the basement. 1605 01:17:36,218 --> 01:17:38,086 So. 1606 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:39,054 - The basement? 1607 01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:39,955 - Uh huh. 1608 01:17:44,860 --> 01:17:46,395 I mean, this place is so... 1609 01:17:46,428 --> 01:17:48,997 I mean, I know I was here. 1610 01:17:49,031 --> 01:17:50,098 I know I was here. 1611 01:17:53,769 --> 01:17:56,238 It's crazy, I felt like it was bigger. 1612 01:18:00,976 --> 01:18:04,813 It was like twice this size when I was here. 1613 01:18:06,081 --> 01:18:07,849 Like this wall wasn't here 1614 01:18:08,817 --> 01:18:11,820 'cause I had like a dresser and- 1615 01:18:11,853 --> 01:18:13,321 - Shine the light on here. 1616 01:18:13,355 --> 01:18:14,222 Let me see. 1617 01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:17,492 Yeah, this board is... 1618 01:18:17,526 --> 01:18:19,294 Hold that light right there. - Okay. 1619 01:18:19,327 --> 01:18:20,162 - [Glynis] Be careful. 1620 01:18:20,195 --> 01:18:22,764 (eerie music) 1621 01:18:28,003 --> 01:18:29,771 Got it? - Yeah, I got it. 1622 01:18:29,805 --> 01:18:30,972 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 1623 01:18:31,006 --> 01:18:32,274 - Oh my God! 1624 01:18:32,307 --> 01:18:33,241 - Yeah, there's something - Yeah, yeah, 1625 01:18:33,275 --> 01:18:34,176 - in there. - yeah. 1626 01:18:34,209 --> 01:18:35,477 I knew this wall wasn't here. 1627 01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:37,079 I knew this wall wasn't here. 1628 01:18:37,112 --> 01:18:39,514 (eerie music) 1629 01:18:42,117 --> 01:18:42,951 - [Dwight] All right? 1630 01:18:42,984 --> 01:18:44,419 - [Charlie] Camera. 1631 01:18:46,221 --> 01:18:47,089 Got it. 1632 01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:52,294 - Oh my God. 1633 01:18:52,327 --> 01:18:53,528 - [Dwight] What are you seein', guys? 1634 01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:55,430 - [Glynis] Oh my God, this is all my stuff. 1635 01:18:55,464 --> 01:18:56,565 These are my... 1636 01:18:56,598 --> 01:18:58,100 I remember these books. 1637 01:18:59,367 --> 01:19:01,837 It was up against this wall but... 1638 01:19:01,870 --> 01:19:03,038 And this picture. 1639 01:19:04,573 --> 01:19:07,142 I mean, I looked at this picture every single day. 1640 01:19:07,175 --> 01:19:08,376 - [Dwight] Wow. 1641 01:19:09,978 --> 01:19:10,812 It's still here. 1642 01:19:10,846 --> 01:19:11,780 - Yeah, I... 1643 01:19:14,182 --> 01:19:15,050 Like... 1644 01:19:16,118 --> 01:19:17,586 I'm kinda in shock right now. 1645 01:19:17,619 --> 01:19:19,154 I'm shaking. 1646 01:19:19,187 --> 01:19:20,856 This bed, this was my bed. 1647 01:19:22,157 --> 01:19:25,327 This was my bed and all my things and... 1648 01:19:27,095 --> 01:19:28,296 Oh my God! - Oh God! 1649 01:19:28,330 --> 01:19:29,264 - [Charlie] Get outta here! 1650 01:19:29,297 --> 01:19:32,100 (dramatic music) 1651 01:19:39,975 --> 01:19:42,010 - [Reporter] For the second time in 28 days, 1652 01:19:42,043 --> 01:19:43,445 skeletal remains of a child 1653 01:19:43,478 --> 01:19:46,581 have been discovered on the abandoned Howard's Mill. 1654 01:19:46,615 --> 01:19:49,317 Police questioned a suspect, Wayne Ritchie, 1655 01:19:49,351 --> 01:19:52,053 after discovering the body of 10 year old Sarah Winston 1656 01:19:52,087 --> 01:19:55,056 who had been missing since 1994. 1657 01:19:55,090 --> 01:19:56,892 - I don't care what those scientists say. 1658 01:19:56,925 --> 01:19:58,593 I know Wayne did it. 1659 01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:01,596 - When I heard about Sarah Winston, 1660 01:20:01,630 --> 01:20:03,565 I immediately, I just got chills. 1661 01:20:05,534 --> 01:20:09,471 I mean, that could've been me. 1662 01:20:09,504 --> 01:20:10,872 - I guess I'm surprised. 1663 01:20:10,906 --> 01:20:13,308 I really didn't see him as the murdering kind. 1664 01:20:13,341 --> 01:20:15,577 - Never, I'll never believe that he did that. 1665 01:20:18,246 --> 01:20:21,082 (phone ringing) 1666 01:20:21,116 --> 01:20:22,017 - Hello? 1667 01:20:22,050 --> 01:20:26,054 - [Glynis] Hi, yes, this is Glynis Williams. 1668 01:20:26,087 --> 01:20:31,092 I just, I was watching the news and the man, 1669 01:20:33,595 --> 01:20:37,399 Wayne Ritchie, I think they said his name was, I know him. 1670 01:20:37,432 --> 01:20:39,267 I know who that is. 1671 01:20:39,301 --> 01:20:41,102 - [Dwight] You've met him? 1672 01:20:41,136 --> 01:20:45,907 - [Glynis] I'm positive that that man is my father. 1673 01:20:45,941 --> 01:20:47,442 (singer vocalizing) 1674 01:20:47,475 --> 01:20:50,312 (shutter flashes) 1675 01:20:56,451 --> 01:20:58,954 - [Detective] What was your relationship with Sarah Winston? 1676 01:21:00,488 --> 01:21:05,126 - Not much, it was a long time ago. 1677 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,896 - Why'd you build a wall in the Howard's house, Wayne? 1678 01:21:09,564 --> 01:21:10,632 Come on now, answer the question. 1679 01:21:10,665 --> 01:21:12,267 - It wasn't safe. 1680 01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:14,336 - It wasn't safe for who? 1681 01:21:14,369 --> 01:21:16,137 Wasn't safe for who? 1682 01:21:17,339 --> 01:21:18,273 - Glynis, Bobby. 1683 01:21:18,306 --> 01:21:20,141 It wasn't safe for Glynis. 1684 01:21:20,175 --> 01:21:22,577 (eerie music) 1685 01:21:23,712 --> 01:21:25,013 - [Dwight] All right, what you go for me, Dan? 1686 01:21:25,046 --> 01:21:27,549 - Well, the lab results are in, brother. 1687 01:21:27,582 --> 01:21:29,084 You're not gonna believe it. 1688 01:21:30,452 --> 01:21:33,121 Wayne Ritchie and Glynis Williams are not related. 1689 01:21:33,154 --> 01:21:34,289 - [Dwight] Okay. 1690 01:21:34,322 --> 01:21:38,426 - [Dan] Rebecca Howard and Glynis Williams are not related. 1691 01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:39,361 - [Dwight] Wait, now what are you talkin'- 1692 01:21:39,394 --> 01:21:41,596 - (tutting) There's more. 1693 01:21:41,630 --> 01:21:46,635 Rebecca Howard and Jane Doe are related. 1694 01:21:48,203 --> 01:21:51,006 (dramatic music) 1695 01:21:53,241 --> 01:21:55,944 (pensive music) 1696 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,717 - When was the last time you saw your daughter? 1697 01:22:04,319 --> 01:22:05,654 - June 1st, 1979. 1698 01:22:08,089 --> 01:22:09,024 - That's specific. 1699 01:22:09,057 --> 01:22:11,426 - It's not the kind of thing your forget. 1700 01:22:12,594 --> 01:22:13,728 - She went missing. 1701 01:22:13,762 --> 01:22:15,463 You and your husband didn't tell anyone 1702 01:22:15,497 --> 01:22:17,365 and didn't report it to the cops. 1703 01:22:17,399 --> 01:22:19,100 You packed up, you left. 1704 01:22:19,134 --> 01:22:21,269 You left most of your possessions behind. 1705 01:22:21,303 --> 01:22:22,671 Is that right? 1706 01:22:22,704 --> 01:22:24,139 - Not exactly. 1707 01:22:24,172 --> 01:22:26,341 - Well, what part of that is not factual? 1708 01:22:27,309 --> 01:22:29,678 - She didn't go missing. 1709 01:22:29,711 --> 01:22:30,745 She was taken. 1710 01:22:30,779 --> 01:22:32,414 (dramatic music) 1711 01:22:32,447 --> 01:22:33,281 - By who? 1712 01:22:33,315 --> 01:22:35,717 (eerie music) 1713 01:22:40,822 --> 01:22:41,723 This Glynis? 1714 01:22:43,725 --> 01:22:47,529 - [Wayne] Naw, she don't look like that no more. 1715 01:22:47,562 --> 01:22:49,564 - All right, wait a second here. 1716 01:22:53,268 --> 01:22:54,369 How 'bout her? 1717 01:22:58,073 --> 01:22:58,673 - Yep. 1718 01:23:01,142 --> 01:23:03,078 - Now, Wayne, I don't understand. 1719 01:23:03,111 --> 01:23:04,346 Why do you know her? 1720 01:23:04,379 --> 01:23:06,448 - I don't know who that is. 1721 01:23:06,481 --> 01:23:08,049 - That's Glynis Howard! 1722 01:23:08,083 --> 01:23:10,085 The real Glynis Howard! 1723 01:23:11,786 --> 01:23:13,421 - [Kaiser] Wayne Ritchie didn't recognize 1724 01:23:13,455 --> 01:23:16,091 the photo of the real Glynis Howard, 1725 01:23:16,124 --> 01:23:18,727 but was able to identify Glynis Williams, 1726 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,597 although referring to her as Glynis Howard. 1727 01:23:22,630 --> 01:23:24,799 He seemed just as confused as everyone else. 1728 01:23:26,401 --> 01:23:28,069 - First time Glynis went missin' 1729 01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,437 she was just a little baby. 1730 01:23:32,574 --> 01:23:36,244 That Howard woman, she was scared, 1731 01:23:37,245 --> 01:23:40,148 but she wouldn't talk about it. 1732 01:23:40,181 --> 01:23:42,817 And then she was gone just like Daniel's parents. 1733 01:23:42,851 --> 01:23:44,152 - No, the Howard's went away. 1734 01:23:44,185 --> 01:23:45,653 They didn't disappear, Wayne. 1735 01:23:50,125 --> 01:23:52,427 - A few years later I was walkin' 1736 01:23:52,460 --> 01:23:57,465 through that field and heard cryin'. 1737 01:24:00,735 --> 01:24:02,303 Saw a baby out there, Bobby. 1738 01:24:02,337 --> 01:24:03,438 Glynis comin' back. 1739 01:24:03,471 --> 01:24:05,140 Flies was all around her - wait a minute, 1740 01:24:05,173 --> 01:24:05,840 - out there in the middle - wait a minute. 1741 01:24:05,874 --> 01:24:07,275 - of the field. - Wayne, 1742 01:24:07,308 --> 01:24:08,476 you found a baby? 1743 01:24:08,510 --> 01:24:09,644 Why didn't you tell me? 1744 01:24:09,677 --> 01:24:11,146 - Well, I thought that if anybody knew, 1745 01:24:11,179 --> 01:24:12,447 then they might find out, 1746 01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:13,615 they might come back for, 1747 01:24:13,648 --> 01:24:15,750 take her back where took her the first time. 1748 01:24:15,784 --> 01:24:17,719 I was just tryin' to make things 1749 01:24:17,752 --> 01:24:20,755 the way they was before for her. 1750 01:24:23,491 --> 01:24:24,726 Figured she's better off. 1751 01:24:26,227 --> 01:24:29,197 - Why did you build a wall in that house, Wayne? 1752 01:24:29,230 --> 01:24:31,833 - Last time I was down there, 1753 01:24:33,935 --> 01:24:36,171 there wasn't nobody down there. 1754 01:24:36,204 --> 01:24:37,238 - [Bob] Okay. 1755 01:24:37,272 --> 01:24:38,139 - All right? 1756 01:24:38,173 --> 01:24:38,840 I know that. 1757 01:24:39,774 --> 01:24:42,343 Things was gettin' dangerous down there. 1758 01:24:42,377 --> 01:24:44,679 Caught Glynis playin' down there. 1759 01:24:45,847 --> 01:24:49,784 And the pipes were exposed, leakin'. 1760 01:24:49,818 --> 01:24:52,153 Seen a rat down there. 1761 01:24:52,187 --> 01:24:56,424 So, I walled it up. 1762 01:24:57,659 --> 01:25:00,595 - And you buried some children's toys down there, too? 1763 01:25:04,833 --> 01:25:07,635 - Yeah well, I was just sayin' bye. 1764 01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:10,405 (pensive music) 1765 01:25:12,507 --> 01:25:13,608 - This just all seems to point 1766 01:25:13,641 --> 01:25:15,243 more and more to Wayne Ritchie. 1767 01:25:15,276 --> 01:25:17,545 The fact that we have a body in the room 1768 01:25:17,579 --> 01:25:19,581 that he admits he sealed, 1769 01:25:20,949 --> 01:25:25,587 then we've got a body in a pond that he had field. 1770 01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:28,423 The question now is, where is Emily? 1771 01:25:30,792 --> 01:25:33,194 - [Kaiser] Are you happy with the arrest? 1772 01:25:33,228 --> 01:25:35,697 (somber music) 1773 01:25:37,465 --> 01:25:38,466 So, are we done? 1774 01:25:40,502 --> 01:25:41,703 - No. 1775 01:25:41,736 --> 01:25:43,304 I still need to find my wife. 1776 01:26:02,323 --> 01:26:04,826 (Dwight sighs) 1777 01:26:09,364 --> 01:26:11,666 Wayne, I need your help. 1778 01:26:11,699 --> 01:26:12,834 - All right. 1779 01:26:12,867 --> 01:26:14,936 I mean, I'll help however I can help. 1780 01:26:16,571 --> 01:26:17,438 - All right. 1781 01:26:18,573 --> 01:26:19,707 What I'm havin' a problem wrappin' 1782 01:26:19,741 --> 01:26:22,010 my mind around is this. 1783 01:26:22,043 --> 01:26:23,545 You admit to all these things, 1784 01:26:23,578 --> 01:26:25,480 buildin' that wall? - Yeah. 1785 01:26:26,414 --> 01:26:27,649 - Takin' that little baby, 1786 01:26:29,050 --> 01:26:30,852 but what about Emily? 1787 01:26:30,885 --> 01:26:33,388 What about my wife, Wayne? 1788 01:26:33,421 --> 01:26:34,856 - I told you Dwight, told you from the start, 1789 01:26:34,889 --> 01:26:36,424 I had nothin' to do with that. 1790 01:26:36,457 --> 01:26:40,328 I had nothin' to do with that. 1791 01:26:41,462 --> 01:26:42,597 - [Wayne] Why are you in the video 1792 01:26:42,630 --> 01:26:44,599 she took right before she went missin'? 1793 01:26:44,632 --> 01:26:48,603 That's you standin' right there. 1794 01:26:49,637 --> 01:26:50,738 - I don't know. 1795 01:26:52,340 --> 01:26:53,474 That wasn't me. 1796 01:26:53,508 --> 01:26:56,611 It's 'cause I go out there sometimes 1797 01:26:56,644 --> 01:26:58,279 and when I walk around I hunt. 1798 01:26:58,313 --> 01:26:59,814 That ain't a crime. 1799 01:26:59,847 --> 01:27:00,949 - No, that's not a crime. 1800 01:27:00,982 --> 01:27:02,717 But you didn't notice her there 1801 01:27:02,750 --> 01:27:04,752 even though she was talkin' awfully loud 1802 01:27:04,786 --> 01:27:05,954 and she wasn't exactly blendin' in? 1803 01:27:05,987 --> 01:27:07,355 - Well, so what? 1804 01:27:07,388 --> 01:27:09,424 If I did, it don't mean I hurt her. 1805 01:27:09,457 --> 01:27:11,726 It don't mean I done nothin' with her. 1806 01:27:11,759 --> 01:27:15,563 Sometimes I go out there and I watch people a little bit, 1807 01:27:16,598 --> 01:27:19,801 see if they disappear or whatnot. 1808 01:27:20,935 --> 01:27:21,836 - Are you sayin' you saw what happened to her? 1809 01:27:21,869 --> 01:27:22,770 - Naw. 1810 01:27:22,804 --> 01:27:25,607 A dog ran off into the woods, 1811 01:27:26,741 --> 01:27:31,579 and I followed the dog into the woods. 1812 01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:33,948 I figured she went home. 1813 01:27:33,982 --> 01:27:36,684 - If you don't have anything to hide, 1814 01:27:36,718 --> 01:27:38,553 while are you always chasin' people off that property? 1815 01:27:38,586 --> 01:27:42,957 - 'Cause I wanna make sure nobody out there disappears again 1816 01:27:42,991 --> 01:27:46,728 and I wanna make sure nobody else pops up, 1817 01:27:48,429 --> 01:27:50,465 like Glynis done. 1818 01:27:50,498 --> 01:27:51,332 - You were just walkin' by? 1819 01:27:51,366 --> 01:27:52,600 - I was just walkin' by. 1820 01:27:52,634 --> 01:27:54,602 They took her, not me. 1821 01:27:54,636 --> 01:27:55,470 - Who? 1822 01:27:55,503 --> 01:27:56,804 Who took her? 1823 01:27:56,838 --> 01:27:58,373 - I had nothin' to do with this. 1824 01:27:58,406 --> 01:27:59,674 I had nothin' to do with this. 1825 01:27:59,707 --> 01:28:01,676 I had nothin' to, - This person disappeared 1826 01:28:01,709 --> 01:28:03,878 - y'all can... - only a few weeks ago. 1827 01:28:03,911 --> 01:28:04,746 Who took her, Wayne? 1828 01:28:04,779 --> 01:28:07,348 (eerie music) 1829 01:28:08,983 --> 01:28:11,686 - Now you know we've got several people out there 1830 01:28:11,719 --> 01:28:14,055 that claim they saw lights 1831 01:28:14,088 --> 01:28:17,558 but there's no proof of that so we can't go anything there. 1832 01:28:17,592 --> 01:28:18,960 And you've got the Lopez's, 1833 01:28:18,993 --> 01:28:23,598 you've got Sarah Winston and you've got Glynis Howard 1834 01:28:23,631 --> 01:28:26,067 all disappearing from the same land. 1835 01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:27,702 - [Roger] Sarah! 1836 01:28:27,735 --> 01:28:28,569 - [Sarah's Mom] Sarah? 1837 01:28:28,603 --> 01:28:29,837 - [Roger] Sarah! 1838 01:28:29,871 --> 01:28:31,472 Did you see where she went? - Where is she? 1839 01:28:31,506 --> 01:28:33,541 - Some people believe theoretically 1840 01:28:33,574 --> 01:28:35,410 that the potential for traveling through time, 1841 01:28:35,443 --> 01:28:37,879 forward through time is possible. 1842 01:28:37,912 --> 01:28:42,917 (singer vocalizing) (soft music) 1843 01:28:44,752 --> 01:28:49,123 - 1979, Glynis Howard goes missing age six, all right? 1844 01:28:49,157 --> 01:28:51,092 She shows back up forensics report 1845 01:28:51,125 --> 01:28:55,697 that Glynis Howard's body found in a wall dead at age six. 1846 01:28:55,730 --> 01:28:57,031 Look, that's 10 years. 1847 01:28:58,499 --> 01:29:01,703 Sarah Winston, disappears at age 10, 1994. 1848 01:29:03,171 --> 01:29:06,107 10 years later forensics again says 1849 01:29:06,140 --> 01:29:09,077 she shows up drowned, dead but the same age. 1850 01:29:10,078 --> 01:29:12,847 - There's also the twin paradox. 1851 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,050 The idea being that if you take identical twins 1852 01:29:16,084 --> 01:29:17,652 under the right circumstances, 1853 01:29:17,685 --> 01:29:20,755 one could travel to space and returning 1854 01:29:20,788 --> 01:29:23,991 have aged slower than the one who remained on Earth. 1855 01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:26,160 - Now, what's with the 10 years? 1856 01:29:26,194 --> 01:29:28,162 Now, you tell me how somebody's, 1857 01:29:28,196 --> 01:29:30,164 they disappear at a certain age, 1858 01:29:30,198 --> 01:29:31,999 their bodies are kept and then they show 1859 01:29:32,033 --> 01:29:35,670 back up dead at a certain age. 1860 01:29:35,703 --> 01:29:38,940 - So, you're sayin' that Emily will come back in 10 years? 1861 01:29:40,074 --> 01:29:43,077 - More importantly, will she show back up 1862 01:29:43,111 --> 01:29:46,180 in 10 years the same age as when she disappeared? 1863 01:29:46,214 --> 01:29:48,816 (eerie music) 1864 01:29:51,652 --> 01:29:53,488 - [Kaiser] Maybe Roger Winston's theories 1865 01:29:53,521 --> 01:29:55,757 weren't so far fetched. 1866 01:29:55,790 --> 01:29:58,559 Maybe he's not as crazy as everyone thinks. 1867 01:30:01,129 --> 01:30:03,531 - Twin Falls, Idaho, 1987, 1868 01:30:03,564 --> 01:30:05,666 this is an interview with a boy named Cole Thomas, 1869 01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:07,135 eight year old boy. 1870 01:30:07,168 --> 01:30:09,103 He claimed he'd been missin' for two days 1871 01:30:09,137 --> 01:30:12,006 and when they found him he'd only been gone, 1872 01:30:12,039 --> 01:30:13,841 he said four minutes, okay? 1873 01:30:13,875 --> 01:30:16,077 So, the only thing that he remembered 1874 01:30:16,110 --> 01:30:19,213 was the distinct feelin' of bein' watched. 1875 01:30:19,247 --> 01:30:22,550 Texarkana, Arkansas, 2001, right? 1876 01:30:22,583 --> 01:30:25,820 "I saw my sister climbing through the second floor window 1877 01:30:25,853 --> 01:30:27,054 but not really climbing. 1878 01:30:27,088 --> 01:30:28,890 It was more like she was floatin', 1879 01:30:28,923 --> 01:30:31,959 and when I got to the window, she was gone," right? 1880 01:30:31,993 --> 01:30:34,529 - And there were triangular lights 1881 01:30:34,562 --> 01:30:37,231 that appeared at the horizon. 1882 01:30:37,265 --> 01:30:40,968 - The lights comin' in the window. 1883 01:30:41,002 --> 01:30:43,671 - They would rotate and move. 1884 01:30:43,704 --> 01:30:46,073 - And lights floatin' in the distance. 1885 01:30:46,107 --> 01:30:48,009 - I got a lot of this stuff here 1886 01:30:48,042 --> 01:30:49,644 and it's just missin' persons 1887 01:30:49,677 --> 01:30:52,713 with no recollection of where they've been, okay? 1888 01:30:52,747 --> 01:30:55,950 Just, they all know that they've been watched. 1889 01:30:55,983 --> 01:31:00,888 - They were all lined up on the horizon, watching. 1890 01:31:02,757 --> 01:31:07,762 (wind chime chiming) (pensive music) 1891 01:31:09,163 --> 01:31:11,899 - The entities appear to study their subjects, 1892 01:31:11,933 --> 01:31:13,768 first as many abducted individuals 1893 01:31:13,801 --> 01:31:17,572 share the feeling of being watched. 1894 01:31:17,605 --> 01:31:18,739 All right? 1895 01:31:18,773 --> 01:31:20,141 "Sometimes months before the incident, 1896 01:31:20,174 --> 01:31:22,677 while there are numerous vivid accounts of abduction 1897 01:31:22,710 --> 01:31:26,881 there are just as many lost time incidents," all right? 1898 01:31:26,914 --> 01:31:30,718 "The victim goes missing for days, months, even years, 1899 01:31:30,751 --> 01:31:32,787 with no memory of being gone 1900 01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:34,755 and in the case of Marilyn Graham, 1901 01:31:34,789 --> 01:31:36,290 showing no signs of aging 1902 01:31:36,324 --> 01:31:39,160 despite being missing for over 10 years." 1903 01:31:39,193 --> 01:31:41,028 Okay, look at all of these, all right? 1904 01:31:41,062 --> 01:31:44,632 And you wanna say that you don't believe? 1905 01:31:44,665 --> 01:31:48,102 - I'm lookin' at all this, but what are you sayin' here? 1906 01:31:49,637 --> 01:31:50,538 - What am I saying? 1907 01:31:52,673 --> 01:31:53,541 Just read it. 1908 01:31:55,176 --> 01:31:58,913 - [Kaiser] If the 10 year time travel theory is possible, 1909 01:31:58,946 --> 01:32:00,581 could it be that Glynis Howard returned 1910 01:32:00,615 --> 01:32:02,884 to the exact same spot in the basement 1911 01:32:02,917 --> 01:32:04,252 where she disappeared only 1912 01:32:04,285 --> 01:32:07,321 to find herself trapped behind the wall Wayne built? 1913 01:32:07,355 --> 01:32:08,289 Did a starving child try to claw 1914 01:32:08,322 --> 01:32:10,958 her way out of what would become her tomb? 1915 01:32:12,293 --> 01:32:13,794 And did Sarah Winston return 1916 01:32:13,828 --> 01:32:15,196 to the same spot she disappeared 1917 01:32:15,229 --> 01:32:17,732 where upon it had been built and then drowned? 1918 01:32:20,101 --> 01:32:21,969 Did Roger Winston just miss an opportunity 1919 01:32:22,003 --> 01:32:24,672 to save his daughter from drowning 1920 01:32:24,705 --> 01:32:27,008 the night he found her bow floating in the pond? 1921 01:32:29,977 --> 01:32:31,879 - [Roger] I think she was trying to come home. 1922 01:32:31,913 --> 01:32:36,918 (singer vocalizing) (soft music) 1923 01:32:38,953 --> 01:32:41,355 - [Kaiser] But then what about the Lopez's? 1924 01:32:41,389 --> 01:32:42,290 Where did they go? 1925 01:32:43,324 --> 01:32:44,692 And what about Glynis Williams 1926 01:32:44,725 --> 01:32:46,928 who Wayne found in the Howard's field? 1927 01:32:46,961 --> 01:32:48,129 Where did she come from? 1928 01:32:50,364 --> 01:32:53,334 And then there is a reason why we started this journey, 1929 01:32:53,367 --> 01:32:54,735 Dwight's wife, Emily. 1930 01:32:56,137 --> 01:32:57,872 Maybe it all doesn't add up perfectly 1931 01:32:57,905 --> 01:33:00,007 but something unnatural is clearly happening 1932 01:33:00,041 --> 01:33:03,144 on this abandoned piece of land called Howard's Mill. 1933 01:33:07,882 --> 01:33:09,050 - [Wayne] No, you need to understand, 1934 01:33:09,083 --> 01:33:12,987 sometimes it takes people and sometimes it gives people. 1935 01:33:14,288 --> 01:33:15,923 Best just to stay away. 1936 01:33:18,826 --> 01:33:20,895 - For the first time in my life, 1937 01:33:20,928 --> 01:33:22,663 I really don't know what to think. 1938 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,970 I mean, we finally got Wayne Ritchie in jail. 1939 01:33:30,438 --> 01:33:32,907 I don't know if he did it, Kaiser. 1940 01:33:36,377 --> 01:33:40,047 You got people movin' at different speeds, 1941 01:33:40,081 --> 01:33:41,882 reappearin' and disappearin'. 1942 01:33:41,916 --> 01:33:43,050 Little girls just poppin' up 1943 01:33:43,084 --> 01:33:47,288 in rooms with no windows or doors, and Emily. 1944 01:33:48,990 --> 01:33:50,157 I can't find my wife. 1945 01:33:54,095 --> 01:33:55,029 This whole thing's crazy. 1946 01:33:55,062 --> 01:33:56,797 It's just got my mind spinnin'. 1947 01:33:59,467 --> 01:34:00,334 I feel lost. 1948 01:34:01,936 --> 01:34:04,071 - [Kaiser] So, what are you gonna do now? 1949 01:34:04,105 --> 01:34:04,972 - Keep lookin. 1950 01:34:06,173 --> 01:34:08,242 - [Kaiser] Do you think she'll come back? 1951 01:34:08,275 --> 01:34:10,911 - I mean, yeah. 1952 01:34:10,945 --> 01:34:13,314 I have to believe that, 1953 01:34:13,347 --> 01:34:15,116 but if she doesn't, 1954 01:34:15,149 --> 01:34:19,920 I will be right here 10 years from now waitin' on her. 1955 01:34:23,190 --> 01:34:24,025 I just... 1956 01:34:24,058 --> 01:34:26,794 (gentle music) 1957 01:34:33,067 --> 01:34:37,204 ♪ When everything falls out of focus ♪ 1958 01:34:37,238 --> 01:34:39,774 ♪ You walk through the door 1959 01:34:39,807 --> 01:34:42,376 ♪ And one thing that's clear to me ♪ 1960 01:34:42,410 --> 01:34:44,845 ♪ Helplessly hopeless 1961 01:34:44,879 --> 01:34:46,747 ♪ I'm all right with that 1962 01:34:46,781 --> 01:34:49,350 ♪ In a room full of people 1963 01:34:49,383 --> 01:34:54,388 ♪ Everything else disappears 1964 01:34:55,322 --> 01:34:59,093 ♪ Everything else disappears 1965 01:34:59,126 --> 01:35:03,798 ♪ Everything else disappears 1966 01:35:03,831 --> 01:35:06,500 ♪ Everything else 1967 01:35:12,306 --> 01:35:14,909 (eerie music) 1968 01:35:45,239 --> 01:35:48,042 (dramatic music) 1969 01:35:49,543 --> 01:35:52,179 (eerie music) 143473

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