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- [Narrator]
Someone is targeting
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the most vulnerable
people in the city.
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The number of deaths is rising,
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and each murder
escalates in violence.
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- We've got a lot of
vulnerable people in Winnipeg.
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How are we gonna protect
them from this happening?
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- [Narrator] If this
killer isn't found,
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there's no telling how
many more could die.
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- I'm pretty worried now
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that this is not gonna stop.
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So, it's escalating
all the time.
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We've got a huge problem
on our hands here.
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(tense music)
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The unsolved ones,
we have to stand up.
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- And approach these cases,
in a way, outside the box.
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- Let the world know
for those out there
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that did commit a murder,
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there are people that
are coming after you.
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- There's just a
lot of good people
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trying to do the right thing.
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- Because it's something
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that you have to be
passionate about.
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- Solve this.
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Bring some peace to
the family, at least.
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Just doing my job.
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- [Narrator] In the early
morning of April 10th, 2015
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in Winnipeg, Manitoba,
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a transit employee finds a man
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seemingly asleep
in a bus shelter.
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On closer inspection, the
man is horribly injured.
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The transit worker
immediately calls
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for an ambulance and the police.
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- They showed up, and they found
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lots of bruising on his head,
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and lots of blood on the floor,
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and what was unusual was his
pants had been taken off.
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At this time, they didn't know
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whether he had taken
his pants off himself,
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or whether somebody
else had removed it.
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It was just unusual.
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(sirens wailing)
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- [Narrator] The unknown man
is rushed to the hospital,
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as police begin investigating
the brutal attack.
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Until the assailant is found,
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the city's most vulnerable
citizens could be in trouble.
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Winnipeg is one of the
largest cities in Canada.
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- It is a beautiful city,
and it's a wonderful city.
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It's been so good
to me and my family.
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And you know what?
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It's a big city, and every big
city has a rough edge to it.
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Winnipeg is historically
a type of frontier town,
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and that's where it started off,
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as a trading post, and it
just progressed from that.
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And a frontier town came
with all the other issues
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that comes with frontier towns,
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where people could
just keep on moving.
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I moved there.
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I'm originally from Ireland.
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- Unfortunately, this
kind of brutal attack
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is not as rare in
the city of Winnipeg
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as we wished it was.
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Winnipeg has often found
itself rated fairly high
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on the crime severity index,
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and the number of
homicides per capita.
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- It's got a gang problem.
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It's got a poverty problem.
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It's not a a police issue
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to try and solve
all these things.
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There's so many
layers of government
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have got to get in there,
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and provide the
proper education,
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and the proper direction
for the youth, especially.
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It was an extremely busy
year for homicides, as well.
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Our unit was quite a bit
smaller than it is now,
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and we had 14 investigators,
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and two supervisors
working in the unit,
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and it was busy all the time.
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We were supposed to
work Monday to Fridays,
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but we worked around
the clock, regularly.
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It was not unusual to
work a 15, 20, 30 hour day
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without a break.
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- [Narrator] The man
in the bus shelter
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is identified as Miles Monias.
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- We were able to identify
him through fingerprints.
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Miles's family were
extremely cooperative,
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as much as they could.
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It didn't sound like
Miles had any enemies,
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any beefs with anybody
in the community.
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He seemed to be a decent, happy,
you know, easygoing person.
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When Miles Monias was attacked,
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it was the day that the
Jets made the playoffs
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for the very first time.
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So Portage and Main
was absolutely packed.
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There was thousands of
people out there celebrating.
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They even shut down
the intersection.
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They were playing
street hockey there.
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It was a good time.
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A good time was had by
all, everybody was happy.
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- [Narrator] On the morning
when Miles Monias is found,
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there are four other people
with him in the bus shelter.
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- At that time, Winnipeg
Transit would come around,
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check on the bus shacks,
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and they found these five
people in the bus shelter,
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and they asked them to move.
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So the four people
that were still alive
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got up and moved.
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They took their blankets,
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and whatever else that
they had with them,
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and they just headed off
south on Main Street,
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and eventually into
Winnipeg Square
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into the underground, and
disappeared into the morning.
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But, the transit people
tried to rouse the man
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that was still, they
thought, sleeping.
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They found him unresponsive.
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They found blood
around his head,
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and they realize
that this person
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was most likely the
victim of an assault.
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At this time, Miles
was still alive.
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He was transported to the
hospital in critical condition,
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and he was put
under observation.
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He was treated, moved to
the intensive care unit.
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I believe he had suffered
massive head injuries
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from the attack.
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He had had previous
head injury before that.
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So he was, not only
was he vulnerable
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because of his circumstances,
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his health was vulnerable.
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- The victim is
determined to have
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a substantial list of injuries,
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including bruising and
swelling to the face and scalp,
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a large bilateral craniectomy,
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massive brain swelling
and herniation,
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all of which point to
repeated and severe
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blunt trauma to the head.
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- One of the strange
things about Miles Monias,
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and this is upsetting,
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but he had footprints
on his face
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from where he was
literally stomped.
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And there was two different
footprints on his face,
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from two different
types of shoes.
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Now, that would
lead you to believe
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that there's two attackers,
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but it could also be the fact
that somebody had odd shoes.
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The bus shack was frequented
by four people who had left.
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We didn't know who they were.
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There was very
little left behind.
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There was just whatever debris
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was in the bus shack overnight.
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There was a couple
of cigarette butts.
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Could they have been
there from earlier in day?
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Of course they could, you know,
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but they're just things
that you pick up.
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There's a million fingerprints
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on the glass of
this bus shelter.
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You take as many as you can,
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and you try and identify them,
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and you basically work
with what you got.
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The scene, there's very
little left behind.
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The body has been attacked.
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- When investigating a crime
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that occurred in a public place,
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there can be a real situation
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where there's just too much
information, too much evidence.
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Think about how many people
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walk through a bus
shelter every single day.
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So a broken bottle you might
find in a private residence
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will give you a
wealth of information
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about a crime that happened
that's very specific.
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A broken bottle in a bus
shelter, or in a public place,
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could have been there
for days, weeks even.
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And it just adds
to the complexity
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of the forensic analysis
that needs to be done
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on all of these
pieces of evidence.
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- The Winnipeg Police
Service Major Crimes Unit
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started the investigation,
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and they gathered
as much intelligence
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and information as they could.
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There are no witnesses,
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even though there's
thousands of people
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on the street earlier
in the evening,
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we didn't know exactly what
time Miles had been attacked.
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We went out and gathered as
much CCTV video as possible.
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You do see some shadows
coming and going.
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Unfortunately, it's
all from a distance.
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Nothing that's gonna
tell you who it is.
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- [Narrator] The closed
circuit television footage
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is taken from a building
that is close by,
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but not actually meant for
surveilling the bus shack.
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Because of this, while the
footage shows the area,
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the actual crime
is barely visible.
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Still, there is some
information to be gleaned.
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- Now we do see the four
people coming into the shack
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at different times
during the night.
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They don't all come together,
but they all leave together.
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So, there are four
persons of interest.
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- [Narrator] The investigation
is making headway,
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but terrible news makes its way
back to the Winnipeg Police.
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Miles Monias is unable to
survive the horrible injuries
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he has sustained,
and dies in hospital.
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This is no longer
about an assault.
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This is now a murder
investigation,
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and a killer is on the streets.
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(dramatic music)
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On an early spring morning
in Winnipeg, Manitoba,
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a man is found brutally
beaten in a bus shelter.
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The man is brought
to the hospital,
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and is identified soon
after as Miles Monias.
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The Winnipeg police begin
investigating the assault,
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but the bus shack
where it occurred
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has too much
traffic to determine
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what might actually mean
anything to the case.
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Thankfully, a nearby
building has a CCTV camera
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that sees the bus shack.
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Though the footage
isn't clear enough
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to determine who is responsible,
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it does reveal four people
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who came into the bus
shack throughout the night.
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Doctors do their best,
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but Miles eventually
succumbs to his injuries,
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and passes away.
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The investigation is no
longer abut an assault,
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but about finding a murderer.
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(eerie music)
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- By the time Miles
had passed away,
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we were able to gather
more of that CCTV video
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from different areas
on Main Street,
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and inside Winnipeg Square.
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Now we have a better view
of these four people.
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We're going under
the point that these
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probably are involved
in Miles's death.
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I mean, they're the last
people who were with him.
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Our next thing is to try
and identify these people,
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and it's very, very difficult.
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You've got four
blurred faces from CCTV
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in April, where people
are wearing heavy coats,
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they're wearing hats, they're
wearing scarves and tuques,
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so, you know,
everybody's covered up.
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It's Winnipeg.
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We eventually, after
three or four days,
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we now have an idea
who these people are.
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- [Narrator] The four
suspects are found
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and brought into the police
station for questioning.
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- When we do find these people,
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they know absolutely nothing
about what's happening.
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And our investigators,
they don't know that.
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- Nearly every suspect
starts by saying,
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no, it wasn't me, denying that
they committed this crime.
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So then it's up to
you to make a decision
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based on what you've
got in front of you,
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based on your gut feelings,
based on the evidence,
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and what it's telling you is,
do you need to push forward,
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or do you believe
what they're saying?
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- And it is hard to know
if they're holding back,
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if they're lying, or if they're
being completely truthful.
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And it was hours and hours
and hours of interview
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of each of these people
before we got nowhere.
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We were literally
spinning our wheels,
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focusing on these
four individuals,
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and trying to find out
if they weren't involved,
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they must know who was involved.
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They must know what happened.
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But then again, there
was the unknown factor
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that we know when these people
came into the bus shack.
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There was thousands of
people out in the street.
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Could it have been one of the
revelers from the hockey game?
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You know, it could
very easily have been.
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It's getting colder by the day.
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We've front loaded it,
we've put as much into it
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as we could at the
very beginning.
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We've tracked down
these four people,
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we've interviewed them, we've
interviewed their friends,
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we've interviewed
their associates
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to see if they've made any
disclosure about anything.
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This is an extremely
difficult case.
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(ominous music)
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- [Narrator] But before
a breakthrough can come,
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another murder
investigation begins.
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At a quarter to
one in the morning,
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Donald Collins' body is
found behind a parking lot
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that's under construction,
behind a hotel.
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- [John] And the parking
lot was almost completed.
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The construction of this
and a multi-story car park
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was underway, and it
was almost completed
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and ready to be opened.
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So, I get called at home at
20 past one in the morning.
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This is on a Saturday morning.
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I make my way up to
this crime scene.
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It's a violent scene.
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It's disturbing.
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No matter how many times you've
seen it, it's disturbing.
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- [Narrator] The attack
appears to be even more brutal
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than what happened
to Miles Monias.
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(camera clicks)
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- The second victim's injuries
include a scalp hemorrhage
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and multi contusions to
the side of the head.
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Nasal fractures,
multifocal lacerations,
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and hemorrhage to
the neck muscles,
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and a stab wound to the neck.
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They're once again
injuries consistent
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with blunt trauma to the head.
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But this time,
strangulation and stabbing
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are added to that.
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- Now, the body had been
found by a pizza delivery guy
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who was taking a shortcut
through the car park
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to get to, I think to the hotel.
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And he had alerted a security
guard at the construction site
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that he had found the body,
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and the security guard
had called the police.
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These people, even though
they're the first people
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to find the body,
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they had nothing to do with
it, and didn't know anything.
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He's got an address
on Carlton Street.
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Donald Collins isn't homeless,
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but he is a very
vulnerable person.
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We found out that he's a
ward of the public trustee,
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which means that he does have
extremely vulnerable issues,
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where they have taken
over his day-to-day care.
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There were drag
marks on the ground,
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and there was a belt wrapped
around Mr. Collins's neck.
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He had been beaten
badly, and like I say,
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his clothes had been
stripped from him as well.
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- [Narrator] The police
interviewed the security guard
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who called in, but
there is very little
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for their
investigation to go on.
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(camera clicks)
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- It's around six
in the morning now,
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and I'm starting to think, okay,
this guy has been stripped.
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The guy a week earlier had
been stripped, Miles Monias,
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so maybe, and they're both
killed in a similar fashion.
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The belt was different.
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So you know, that's a bit
of a wild card right now.
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We have started to
collect some video.
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We went back to Mr.
Collins's apartment,
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and there was video
inside and outside,
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and we know that he
left his residence
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at 20 past 10 at night,
the night before.
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Basically walked
around the area,
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picked up a few cigarette butts,
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and he's just walking
through that downtown area.
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The next time that we see him,
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we see him on video in
front of the liquor store
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on Ellice and Hargrave,
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and he's picked up in their
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outside surveillance video
as well, at 25 past 10.
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We then see him walking
across the road,
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and there's a shadow with him.
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I say a shadow, there's somebody
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that's all in black,
unrecognizable.
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It's almost out of video,
and we don't know that he's,
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but he's there.
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(tense music)
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- [Narrator] Progress is made
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on the Donald Collins
case throughout the day,
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but by the evening, it is
forced to be put on hold
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when another body is found.
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- We're still on the 25th,
it's 10 after seven actually,
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and we get notified that
another body has been found
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very, very close to
Donald Collins's body,
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behind 339 Portage Avenue.
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(ominous music)
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The third victim was
identified as Stony Bushie.
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Mr. Bushie was another
homeless person.
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His body was concealed
in a construction site
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behind 339 Portage.
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It was covered with
pallets and plywood,
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and he had been beaten up
pretty bad as well, and stomped.
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The saving grace of this one
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was that there was a lot of
surveillance video in the area.
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There was video from
the Air Canada building.
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There was video from
the APTN building,
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all in the the back area.
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So we were able to tell exactly
when this attack occurred,
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and it actually turned out
that Stony Bushie was killed
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before Donald Collins.
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- The third victim's
list of injuries
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includes severe
linear lacerations
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to this side of the head,
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and multiple fractures to
the left side of the head.
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There are subdural and
subarachnoid hemorrhages,
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a partial fracture of the
seventh cervical vertebrae,
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and patterned stains consistent
with possible footprints.
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Once again, these
injuries are consistent
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with the first victim,
but built upon.
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- [Narrator] Another element
that all three murders
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appear to have in common
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is that the victims' pants
have all been removed.
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- At this point,
I firmly believed
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that the three of
them are related,
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but I also now see that
there's a huge escalation
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between the three of them,
in the violence that's there.
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(tense music)
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Miles Monias was beaten,
kicked, and stomped.
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Stony Bushie was
beaten, stomped on,
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and beaten with a two by four.
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And then his body was concealed.
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And then Donald
Collins was beaten.
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He had a belt wrapped
around his neck,
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and he was cut from
his neck to his waist.
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So, it's escalating
all the time.
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- [Narrator] With
three murder victims
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discovered in less
than two weeks,
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the city's most
vulnerable population
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could be in terrible trouble.
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(tense music)
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00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:01,407
- I'm pretty worried now
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that this is not gonna stop,
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and it's getting, they're
more and more frequent.
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There's only hours between
them now, instead of days.
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And we've got a huge
problem on our hands here.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Narrator] Miles Monias is
found barely hanging onto life
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after being severely
beaten in a bus shelter.
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Sadly, while the
investigation into the assault
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is just beginning, Miles
dies in the hospital.
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(monitor beeps)
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With CCTV footage revealing
four possible suspects,
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the case starts strong.
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But after each lead
runs its course,
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it looks more and more likely
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that Miles's murder
might never be solved,
426
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at least anytime soon.
427
00:21:02,052 --> 00:21:04,012
Two more murder
victims are discovered,
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and the similarities
to each other,
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and how Miles was
found, makes it possible
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that all three attacks
could have been committed
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by the same individual.
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- One of the things
we're trying to do
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is we're trying to see
is there any relationship
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00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,111
between these three victims?
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And there doesn't appear to be,
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so we're looking now
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at random killings
of vulnerable people.
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It's very disturbing.
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We've got a lot of vulnerable
people in Winnipeg,
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and we've gotta,
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00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:33,292
how are we gonna protect
them from this happening?
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- [Narrator] As with
the first two murders,
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the police search
for more CCTV footage
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that may shed any light
on Stony Bushie's attack.
445
00:21:43,427 --> 00:21:45,470
- We got very, very
lucky with the CCTV
446
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because of the areas
where it happened,
447
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especially the
last two homicides,
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Collins and Bushie,
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they're unfortunately
high crime areas,
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and a lot of businesses have
CCTV for their own security.
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The business community in
that area were phenomenal.
452
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It was a weekend, and
they brought in people,
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and they downloaded
as much video.
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We told 'em what we believed
we were investigating.
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We told 'em, we believe we're
investigating a serial killer
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who is out there picking on
the most vulnerable people
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in our society, our
homeless people.
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And they dropped
everything and came,
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00:22:23,717 --> 00:22:24,926
and that was fantastic.
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We couldn't have asked for more.
461
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- [Narrator] Sifting
through the CCTV footage
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eventually pays off.
463
00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:34,186
- We find video
on Ellice Avenue,
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A couple of shots
of Stony Bushie
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walking with an individual.
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00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:39,775
The video is terrible.
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The quality is brutal.
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00:22:41,943 --> 00:22:46,406
It's video of a man
dressed in black.
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He's carrying a
colored backpack,
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and he's with Stony Bushie.
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We have black and white shots
that are taken at night,
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but the lighting is terrible.
473
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You're looking at street lights,
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and relatively cheaper
security systems,
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and they're all in place
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to protect the
buildings they're on.
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They're not there
to spy on people,
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it's just, people
walk into these shots.
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One of the better
pictures that we have
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is from the liquor store
at Hargrave and Ellice.
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And we do see Stony
Bushie and this individual
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having a very quick conversation
with a security guard
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who's stationed outside
the liquor store,
484
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and then walking south towards
the Air Canada building,
485
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and towards where Stony
Bushie was killed.
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- [Narrator] The police plan
to interview the security guard
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in hopes that they can help
identify their suspect,
488
00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:43,839
but when they arrive,
they receive a setback.
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- We find out that
security guard,
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that was his last day at work.
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He's on a Greyhound bus,
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00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:52,597
and he's heading to Fort
McMurray to start a new job.
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Okay, now what do
we do, you know?
494
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- [Narrator] The police
are doing all they can
495
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to find their suspect.
496
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Every moment wasted
could mean another death.
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00:24:02,566 --> 00:24:04,609
- The first thing we
do is we put together
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an internal wanted poster,
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and send it out to
every single member
500
00:24:10,323 --> 00:24:12,032
of the Winnipeg Police Service.
501
00:24:12,032 --> 00:24:14,453
This is something that
they get in their email.
502
00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,205
Those that are working,
they can look at it.
503
00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:18,540
If they come across somebody
504
00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:20,125
that looks like this individual,
505
00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:23,003
they can detain them
and get 'em to us.
506
00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:24,504
If it's somebody else who's off,
507
00:24:24,504 --> 00:24:26,047
and they happen to
open their email,
508
00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:28,800
and they recognize this
person, they will call.
509
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,427
We got nothing from that.
510
00:24:30,427 --> 00:24:32,721
- [Narrator] But getting
the word out internally
511
00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:36,224
isn't enough, and the police
decide it would be best
512
00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:38,018
to hold a press conference.
513
00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:40,854
All the police can do is wait,
514
00:24:40,854 --> 00:24:43,064
hoping someone calls
in with information
515
00:24:43,064 --> 00:24:44,232
that could be helpful.
516
00:24:44,232 --> 00:24:47,234
But every second waiting
is another second
517
00:24:47,234 --> 00:24:49,279
where the killer is
still on the streets.
518
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:54,826
- So, we had the news
conference, and it
was within an hour,
519
00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:58,914
we had name of who
this person was.
520
00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:02,125
We got calls from
people in the city
521
00:25:02,125 --> 00:25:04,711
who were involved
in social services,
522
00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:06,922
who were involved with shelters.
523
00:25:06,922 --> 00:25:08,840
Nationwide paid off as well,
524
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,636
because we got a phone call
from Fort Hope, Ontario,
525
00:25:12,636 --> 00:25:14,763
which is several hundred
kilometers above,
526
00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:17,516
four or 500 kilometers
north of Thunder Bay
527
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:19,267
in a very remote community.
528
00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:23,522
And this man said that he
recognized the individual
529
00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:25,815
as his brother, John Ostamas.
530
00:25:25,815 --> 00:25:28,527
(eerie music)
531
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:34,950
When I put out that
bulletin to the media
532
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:37,285
of this blurred picture
533
00:25:37,285 --> 00:25:40,580
that looked like, it barely
looked like anything to me.
534
00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:43,208
And I thought, okay, if
we get a hit on this,
535
00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:46,086
I mean, it's like
we've won the lottery.
536
00:25:46,086 --> 00:25:48,004
And we got four or
five phone calls,
537
00:25:48,004 --> 00:25:49,422
and they were all
of the same person.
538
00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:50,965
I could not believe that.
539
00:25:50,965 --> 00:25:52,217
If that didn't happen,
540
00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:55,262
if we didn't get that
grainy, dull picture
541
00:25:55,262 --> 00:25:59,432
on Ellice Avenue of him walking,
we would've had nothing.
542
00:25:59,432 --> 00:26:01,101
I have enough to arrest him.
543
00:26:01,101 --> 00:26:02,602
I don't have enough
to charge him.
544
00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:04,229
Nowhere close.
545
00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:06,439
I also have to find this guy.
546
00:26:06,439 --> 00:26:10,859
My best way of identifying
him is this security guard
547
00:26:10,859 --> 00:26:14,071
who's on a bus on his
way to Fort McMurray.
548
00:26:14,071 --> 00:26:15,657
So I look into my incident room,
549
00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:19,828
and I call two of my
detectives and I say, okay,
550
00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:21,997
you guys pack a bag.
551
00:26:21,997 --> 00:26:24,040
You're flying to Fort McMurray.
552
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,126
And they said, well, really?
553
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:27,460
You know, and I said yeah,
554
00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:29,337
you gotta go meet this bus,
and interview this guy,
555
00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:32,465
and show him a photo
lineup of John Ostamas
556
00:26:32,465 --> 00:26:34,593
now that we have an
identification on him.
557
00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,386
Normally, there's
a bunch of hoops
558
00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:39,263
that we should go
through to get this.
559
00:26:39,263 --> 00:26:40,473
There was no time for that.
560
00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:42,851
I opened my drawer,
pulled out my credit card,
561
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:45,061
and I gave him the credit
card, said, book the flight.
562
00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:47,772
We'll beg for
forgiveness next week.
563
00:26:47,772 --> 00:26:51,776
(plane engine roaring)
(tense music)
564
00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:53,445
They identified him
with the photograph
565
00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:55,530
that we got from Thunder Bay.
566
00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:56,823
We go through our database,
567
00:26:56,823 --> 00:26:58,532
and we select nine
other photographs
568
00:26:58,532 --> 00:27:02,037
which are similar in appearance.
569
00:27:02,037 --> 00:27:05,498
And we showed him an
array of 10 photographs,
570
00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:07,208
and right away,
this security guard
571
00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:10,629
picked up this photograph
of John Ostamas.
572
00:27:11,546 --> 00:27:13,548
When I sent the guys out there,
573
00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:15,050
as they were leaving the office,
574
00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:16,843
I kinda jokingly said to 'em,
575
00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:19,638
if you don't get an
ID, don't come back.
576
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:21,765
So they phoned me and
they said, guess what?
577
00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:22,766
We got an ID.
578
00:27:23,892 --> 00:27:25,310
100% positive ID.
579
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:28,647
So I said okay, well you're
welcome to come back.
580
00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,941
- [Narrator] With a
positive ID on John Ostamas,
581
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,653
the next step is to find him
582
00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:38,365
before he finds another victim.
583
00:27:38,365 --> 00:27:40,992
(tense music)
584
00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:45,163
(gentle music)
585
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,340
(ominous music)
586
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,759
When three murders
happen within two weeks,
587
00:27:57,759 --> 00:27:59,594
the Winnipeg police
become worried
588
00:27:59,594 --> 00:28:02,097
for their most
vulnerable population.
589
00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:04,891
Though there is a clear
escalation in violence
590
00:28:04,891 --> 00:28:06,351
with each attack,
591
00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:09,061
the investigation believes
that the same person
592
00:28:09,061 --> 00:28:11,398
may be responsible
for all three.
593
00:28:11,398 --> 00:28:14,567
CCTV footage is proven
to be invaluable,
594
00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:16,945
and gives the police
an image of a suspect
595
00:28:16,945 --> 00:28:18,696
that they bring to the public.
596
00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,950
Within hours of holding
a press conference,
597
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:24,703
they have a name, John Ostamas.
598
00:28:25,494 --> 00:28:28,164
But knowing who he
is isn't enough.
599
00:28:28,164 --> 00:28:31,209
They need to immediately
get him off the street.
600
00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:32,711
- Now we gotta find him,
601
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,089
but it's a different
kind of pressure now.
602
00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:39,342
It's okay, now we're not looking
for a needle in a haystack.
603
00:28:39,342 --> 00:28:40,802
We're looking for an individual
604
00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:42,429
in a city of a million people.
605
00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:44,681
But you know, we've
done that before,
606
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:47,100
and we've done it
very successfully.
607
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,019
- [Narrator] A face and name
to help their investigation
608
00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:51,438
leads to more information
609
00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:55,191
on Ostamas's actions,
outside of the murders.
610
00:28:55,191 --> 00:28:56,484
- Now we had a trail to follow.
611
00:28:56,484 --> 00:29:00,613
We're knocking on doors, we're
finding out different things.
612
00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:02,824
We find out that on the Friday
613
00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:05,660
before the murder
of Stony Bushie,
614
00:29:06,619 --> 00:29:10,457
John Ostamas goes to the
Winnipeg Hotel on Main Street.
615
00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:13,209
He lights a fire
upstairs in a corridor,
616
00:29:13,209 --> 00:29:16,421
and the hotel has
to be evacuated.
617
00:29:18,381 --> 00:29:20,633
It's brought under
control very quickly,
618
00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:22,218
but this is a residential hotel
619
00:29:22,218 --> 00:29:24,471
where a lot of
vulnerable people live.
620
00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:26,556
The whole place had
to be evacuated.
621
00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:29,058
Again, he's caught
on video doing this.
622
00:29:29,058 --> 00:29:31,436
- [Narrator] One of the places
that the police look into
623
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:34,606
is the Employment and
Income Assistance Office.
624
00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:36,316
- We're now into Monday.
625
00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,193
The city is coming alive again.
626
00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:40,153
It's starting to to wake up.
627
00:29:40,153 --> 00:29:41,446
Businesses are opening.
628
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:45,742
We go to the Social Assistance
Office on Rorie Street.
629
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:49,204
The investigators ask
if he's known to them.
630
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:50,955
They don't know who he is,
631
00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:53,958
but they flag his name
in case he does come in.
632
00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:57,462
That afternoon, we get
a phone call from EIA
633
00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:01,549
saying that he's in their office
right now, on Rorie Street.
634
00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:06,429
And this is a red alert, and I
scramble as many crews I can.
635
00:30:06,429 --> 00:30:09,224
I send three teams
over to Rorie Street.
636
00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:10,225
It's a short distance
637
00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:12,185
from the public safety
building to Rorie,
638
00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,229
but they're going at a
million miles per hour,
639
00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:15,396
like lights and sirens.
640
00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:18,233
And when they get
there, sure enough,
641
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:20,693
John Ostamas is there,
and they arrest him.
642
00:30:20,693 --> 00:30:24,155
He's calm, he's easy
to to deal with.
643
00:30:24,155 --> 00:30:26,324
He's told at the time
that he's under arrest
644
00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:28,243
for murder or similar offense.
645
00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:32,080
He shrugs it off,
and he's handcuffed,
646
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,167
and he's brought into the
public safety building.
647
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:39,254
I view him, as he comes
in, as the supervisor.
648
00:30:39,254 --> 00:30:42,423
I ask him a few
questions to make sure
649
00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:45,552
that he doesn't need
any medical attention,
650
00:30:45,552 --> 00:30:50,557
that he understands why
he's there, and he's fine.
651
00:30:50,557 --> 00:30:55,186
He's polite, he's understanding
everything I say to him.
652
00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:56,688
Ask him, does he want anything?
653
00:30:56,688 --> 00:31:00,066
He says he's hungry, so we
provide him with some food.
654
00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:04,279
He wants coffee, kept
asking for coffee.
655
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:05,488
He had a few cigarettes.
656
00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:07,448
He ate several sandwiches.
657
00:31:07,448 --> 00:31:09,576
After it was explained to him,
658
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,494
his legal rights
were provided to him,
659
00:31:11,494 --> 00:31:15,540
and his right to a lawyer,
and his police caution
660
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:18,376
that anything he said
would be recorded
661
00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:19,794
and used against him,
662
00:31:19,794 --> 00:31:24,591
and that he was being
arrested for three homicides,
663
00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:27,886
he said he wanted to
speak with a lawyer.
664
00:31:28,803 --> 00:31:32,181
- [Narrator] Ostamas requests
a lawyer from Thunder Bay,
665
00:31:32,181 --> 00:31:35,894
but when that lawyer is called,
he recommends someone local.
666
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:38,980
The lawyer comes
to talk to Ostamas,
667
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,815
but soon leaves after,
668
00:31:40,815 --> 00:31:44,485
giving his client the advice
to not speak to the police.
669
00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:47,530
- A lawyer is always gonna
tell their client not to talk,
670
00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:49,574
and it's always in their
client's best interest
671
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:50,825
not to make a statement.
672
00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:54,245
But in the end, this is a
recommendation, and not the law.
673
00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:56,414
If the client chooses
to talk anyway,
674
00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:58,666
there's nothing to
be done about it.
675
00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:00,710
- After a while,
the investigators
676
00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:04,589
got some background
information from John Ostamas.
677
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:07,258
He started off with a
bizarre story of an injury
678
00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:08,509
that had occurred to him
679
00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:10,637
when he was in his
very early teens.
680
00:32:10,637 --> 00:32:14,474
Couple of RCMP officers
beat him up in Fort Hope,
681
00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:16,851
and he was badly injured,
682
00:32:16,851 --> 00:32:19,896
and he had PTSD after
that, and everything.
683
00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:21,481
And that that didn't
sit right with me.
684
00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:23,524
That just sounded wrong,
685
00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:26,611
because the RCMP haven't
policed in Ontario
686
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:29,155
for probably close
to a 100 years,
687
00:32:29,155 --> 00:32:30,531
and it's the OPP.
688
00:32:30,531 --> 00:32:34,243
John knows the difference
between the OPP and the RCMP.
689
00:32:34,243 --> 00:32:36,788
- The RCMP is the Royal
Canadian Mounted Police.
690
00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:40,708
It's a national police service
for the country of Canada.
691
00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:43,211
The RCMP provides
contract policing services
692
00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:45,505
to all provinces and
territories in the country,
693
00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:47,966
with the exception of
Ontario and Quebec.
694
00:32:48,925 --> 00:32:51,886
- [Narrator] Ostamas's
story about the RCMP
695
00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:53,513
loses even more credibility
696
00:32:53,513 --> 00:32:55,765
when the Winnipeg police
speak to his brother,
697
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:58,685
and learn the event
never occurred.
698
00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:00,228
- He started to talk about,
699
00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:03,314
he wanted to get
this off his chest,
700
00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:06,442
and he said, "I've actually
killed a lot of people."
701
00:33:06,442 --> 00:33:07,568
This is where he said,
702
00:33:07,568 --> 00:33:10,989
"I've killed a lot of
people, not just here."
703
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,658
He said, "I've killed
the three people here,"
704
00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:16,995
now a confirmation for me that
he's killed the three people
705
00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:19,372
including Miles Monias.
706
00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:22,333
But he said he's killed
people in New York, as well,
707
00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:24,127
and in other places.
708
00:33:25,294 --> 00:33:27,964
Now I'm thinking, okay, and
this is rambling of a guy
709
00:33:27,964 --> 00:33:32,301
who's trying to build an
insanity case or something.
710
00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:34,512
In the meantime,
other investigators
711
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,639
are now searching social media,
712
00:33:36,639 --> 00:33:38,641
and sure enough,
there's photographs
713
00:33:38,641 --> 00:33:40,810
on John Ostamas'
Facebook account,
714
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,061
and here he is in New York
715
00:33:42,061 --> 00:33:44,772
with photographs of
selfies taken of him
716
00:33:44,772 --> 00:33:48,484
in different places in New
York over different years.
717
00:33:48,484 --> 00:33:51,029
So, maybe it's true,
maybe it isn't.
718
00:33:51,946 --> 00:33:54,907
- [Narrator] Ostamas soon
starts giving more details
719
00:33:54,907 --> 00:33:56,409
into the recent murders.
720
00:33:57,285 --> 00:34:01,164
- He talks about the
Miles Monias homicide.
721
00:34:01,164 --> 00:34:05,668
How he just went into the
bus shack and killed him.
722
00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:09,297
He never really gave her a
reason for killing Miles Monias.
723
00:34:09,297 --> 00:34:10,465
He described how he killed him,
724
00:34:10,465 --> 00:34:12,800
and it was brutal,
absolutely brutal.
725
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,802
He said Miles
Monias was sleeping
726
00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:16,554
when he attacked him,
727
00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:20,600
and he talked about
stomping on his head,
728
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,478
and trying to snap
his neck and you know,
729
00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:27,356
just a brutal physical assault.
730
00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:30,151
He said that he went
the to the river,
731
00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:32,236
and changed his clothing
after that assault.
732
00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:36,074
And he said he always wore two
or three layers of clothing,
733
00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:38,951
and he threw the top layer
of clothing into the river,
734
00:34:38,951 --> 00:34:41,996
and then he just
continued on his business.
735
00:34:41,996 --> 00:34:46,000
Then he went on to talk about
the Stony Bushie homicide,
736
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,670
and confirming that
this was the second one.
737
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:53,007
He said that he met Stony
Bushie on the street randomly,
738
00:34:53,007 --> 00:34:54,509
near the Quest Hotel.
739
00:34:55,510 --> 00:35:00,681
He said that Stony Bushie
asked him, was he the devil?
740
00:35:01,556 --> 00:35:04,685
And he said, yes, and
he said, follow me.
741
00:35:04,685 --> 00:35:07,271
And he said Stony
Bushie just followed him
742
00:35:07,271 --> 00:35:08,815
down to where he killed him.
743
00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:12,819
He described, in detail,
the attack on Stony Bushie,
744
00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:14,320
which we were able to confirm
745
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,032
because we had a lot
of it recorded on CCTV,
746
00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:20,284
even though it was
from a distance.
747
00:35:20,284 --> 00:35:22,870
It was brutal, and he
didn't blink an eye,
748
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,998
he didn't show any emotion
when he spoke about this.
749
00:35:25,998 --> 00:35:31,212
He literally just talked about,
it was so matter of fact.
750
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,550
He said after the
Stony Bushie homicide,
751
00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:38,136
he went to the river
and changed his clothes.
752
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,723
Then he came back, and
he found Donald Collins
753
00:35:42,723 --> 00:35:43,766
in the same manner.
754
00:35:43,766 --> 00:35:45,476
And he said Donald
Collins asked him,
755
00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:46,853
was he the devil as well?
756
00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:48,646
And he said, yes I
am, and follow me.
757
00:35:48,646 --> 00:35:50,314
Did this happen, who knows?
758
00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:51,649
I doubt it very much.
759
00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:55,402
But, this was what
he was giving us.
760
00:35:55,402 --> 00:35:57,989
He led Donald Collins
into the corner
761
00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:01,200
of this new unoccupied
parking lot,
762
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,661
and he literally
slaughtered him as well.
763
00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:04,871
And he had the detail,
764
00:36:04,871 --> 00:36:08,541
which was all holdback evidence
of the belt around the neck
765
00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:09,542
and the cutting.
766
00:36:09,542 --> 00:36:11,210
This was something
that wasn't known,
767
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,129
the stripping of the bodies.
768
00:36:13,129 --> 00:36:15,256
It's something that
we were able to,
769
00:36:15,256 --> 00:36:17,175
that we knew that okay,
770
00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:19,677
only the person who
was there and did this
771
00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,344
can have these details.
772
00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:24,473
- [Narrator] Ostamas
claims there was a reason
773
00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:25,683
for these attacks.
774
00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:28,060
That three men raped
his girlfriend,
775
00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:29,979
and he was out for revenge.
776
00:36:31,439 --> 00:36:32,773
- We had spoken to the girl,
777
00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:34,984
and we actually went out
and double checked on that.
778
00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:36,777
Was he provoked into doing this?
779
00:36:36,777 --> 00:36:38,863
First of all, our three victims
780
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:43,284
never had any contact
with this woman, ever.
781
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:45,870
She wasn't even
like a girlfriend.
782
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,956
She was more like an
ex, and an acquaintance.
783
00:36:48,956 --> 00:36:54,212
And again, this was, I think,
John's mind reaching for,
784
00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:57,672
trying to maybe normalize it
for himself even, you know?
785
00:36:57,672 --> 00:37:01,219
That he had felt compelled
to go and do this.
786
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:03,554
- [Narrator] But one
thing gnaws at the police.
787
00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,641
Ostamas speaks of other
murders he committed.
788
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:09,936
It could be possible that there
are more bodies to be found.
789
00:37:09,936 --> 00:37:11,896
- Eventually, get him
to open up about that,
790
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:17,276
and he talks about two
other murders in Winnipeg
791
00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:20,279
going back to the early 2000s.
792
00:37:20,279 --> 00:37:24,784
One of them we found,
and it wasn't a homicide.
793
00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:30,248
It was an extremely
severe beating of a
homeless individual.
794
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:34,460
The man didn't die, and
he survived that beating.
795
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:38,005
However, he died
several years after that
796
00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:40,258
from an unrelated incident,
797
00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:43,135
or from natural
causes, actually.
798
00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:45,263
The other one John spoke about
799
00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:47,014
was he said it occurred
800
00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:49,767
behind the Woodbine
Hotel on Main Street,
801
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:53,187
and he said that he had
killed another individual
802
00:37:53,187 --> 00:37:56,274
several months after
the the Ford Street one.
803
00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:57,900
We never found that.
804
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:02,238
There were similarities to
an unsolved homicide in 2007,
805
00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:04,907
but it happened near
the Northern Hotel.
806
00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:08,035
And I'm always wondering,
were they related?
807
00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:11,372
And we never could bring
them close enough together,
808
00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,709
but we never found the
attack that he spoke about.
809
00:38:14,709 --> 00:38:16,752
- [Narrator] Ostamas
talks about more murders
810
00:38:16,752 --> 00:38:18,379
outside of the country,
811
00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:21,632
but Winnipeg police
have no way to confirm.
812
00:38:22,508 --> 00:38:25,136
Ostamas has killed at
least three people,
813
00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:28,514
and the violence has
escalated severely.
814
00:38:28,514 --> 00:38:32,018
He claims to be
responsible for many more.
815
00:38:32,018 --> 00:38:34,103
One thing police know for sure,
816
00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:37,982
this man needs to be
taken off the streets.
817
00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:40,860
(dramatic music)
818
00:38:42,777 --> 00:38:45,448
(gentle music)
819
00:38:47,658 --> 00:38:49,201
(ominous music)
820
00:38:49,201 --> 00:38:52,288
John Ostamas is believed to
have murdered three people
821
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:55,082
in less than two weeks
in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
822
00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:59,295
Miles Monias, Stony
Bushie, and Donald Collins
823
00:38:59,295 --> 00:39:01,922
are all found having
been severely beaten,
824
00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:04,759
each murder more
violent than the last.
825
00:39:05,801 --> 00:39:08,179
The original charges
made against John Ostamas
826
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,306
are for two counts of
first degree murder,
827
00:39:10,306 --> 00:39:12,975
and one count of
second degree murder.
828
00:39:12,975 --> 00:39:14,393
His lawyer makes a motion
829
00:39:14,393 --> 00:39:16,937
to change them all to
second degree murder
830
00:39:16,937 --> 00:39:19,815
with the provision that
Ostamas will plead guilty
831
00:39:19,815 --> 00:39:21,692
if this motion is passed.
832
00:39:21,692 --> 00:39:24,362
- Monias's murder is most
likely classified differently
833
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,906
from the other two, because
of how much it appears
834
00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:30,951
like it could have been
a spontaneous decision.
835
00:39:30,951 --> 00:39:33,746
Monias was attacked where
he was found asleep.
836
00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:35,956
The other two appear
more premeditated,
837
00:39:35,956 --> 00:39:38,417
as they were both brought
to a secondary location
838
00:39:38,417 --> 00:39:40,169
before they were attacked.
839
00:39:41,003 --> 00:39:42,546
- [Narrator] There are
theories of sexual assault
840
00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:45,466
because of the clothing that
is removed from the victims,
841
00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:47,718
but Ostamas denies it all.
842
00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:50,221
- Part of his agreement
with his guilty plea
843
00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:51,389
was that he would plead guilty
844
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,056
to three counts
of second degree,
845
00:39:53,056 --> 00:39:56,060
and take the three
consecutive life sentences.
846
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,104
- As soon as there's some
sort of sexual aspect
847
00:39:58,104 --> 00:40:00,189
to the murder, it becomes
a first degree murder.
848
00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:03,651
First degree murders require
intent and premeditation,
849
00:40:03,651 --> 00:40:05,986
whereas second degree
murders requires intent,
850
00:40:05,986 --> 00:40:07,113
but you don't necessarily need
851
00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,448
that premeditated
design to the crime.
852
00:40:10,449 --> 00:40:12,743
- [Narrator] The possibility
of sexual assault
853
00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:14,495
remains inconclusive,
854
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:16,038
with the investigation dropped
855
00:40:16,038 --> 00:40:18,040
after Ostamas's guilty plea.
856
00:40:18,873 --> 00:40:20,251
John Ostamas pleads guilty
857
00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:22,753
to all three counts of
second degree murder,
858
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:26,715
and is sentenced to three
consecutive life sentences.
859
00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:29,718
- All in all, he confessed
to what he believed
860
00:40:29,718 --> 00:40:31,594
were 17 homicides.
861
00:40:31,594 --> 00:40:33,431
He was convicted
of three homicides.
862
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:37,393
At the time, he got the longest
sentence ever in Canada.
863
00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:39,979
No chance of parole
for 75 years.
864
00:40:39,979 --> 00:40:42,022
I remember him saying
in his interview
865
00:40:42,022 --> 00:40:44,024
that he was a killing machine.
866
00:40:44,024 --> 00:40:45,943
He liked killing, and
he was good at it.
867
00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:48,446
That's a very, very
dangerous person.
868
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:51,157
And to see him in the person,
869
00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:54,368
he certainly does not
portray that danger.
870
00:40:54,368 --> 00:40:56,370
He's someone you would
walk past on the street
871
00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:59,915
and never ever think
that he was this person.
872
00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:01,834
It was an intense few days,
873
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:04,753
absolutely crazy,
intense few days,
874
00:41:04,753 --> 00:41:08,132
and I think if we
hadn't got him,
875
00:41:09,216 --> 00:41:11,760
he would've absolutely
wreaked havoc in our city,
876
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,889
and gone on somewhere else
and done the same thing again,
877
00:41:14,889 --> 00:41:16,640
because there's
no doubt about it,
878
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,726
his violence was escalating.
879
00:41:20,728 --> 00:41:25,232
These people were so vulnerable
in the city of Winnipeg.
880
00:41:25,232 --> 00:41:27,443
They're invisible
people, all the time.
881
00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:29,612
Like, we go about
our daily business,
882
00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:31,655
and these are invisible people.
883
00:41:31,655 --> 00:41:34,074
You know, they've got
addictions problems,
884
00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:35,951
they've got solvent
abuse problems,
885
00:41:35,951 --> 00:41:38,286
they've got mental
health issues,
886
00:41:38,286 --> 00:41:41,957
and they do what they
have to do to survive.
887
00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:45,085
- [Narrator] John
Ostamas is sentenced
888
00:41:45,085 --> 00:41:48,047
to three consecutive
life sentences
889
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:50,007
to be served in Canadian prison.
890
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:55,054
While originally ineligible
for parole for 75 years,
891
00:41:55,054 --> 00:41:58,974
an appeal has him
able to apply in 2040,
892
00:41:58,974 --> 00:42:01,393
when he will be 63 years old.
893
00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:05,314
Targeting the city's
most vulnerable,
894
00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:09,151
Ostamas almost got away with
the murder of three men.
895
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:12,655
Thankfully, he was stopped
before he could take
896
00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:13,906
any more victims.
897
00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:16,867
- Somebody has to
advocate for them,
898
00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:18,369
and there's lots
of people who do.
899
00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:20,704
But when something like
this happens to them,
900
00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:25,668
as society, we have to stand
up and advocate for them,
901
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:28,587
and look out for them,
and remember them,
902
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:30,464
because they were people.
903
00:42:30,464 --> 00:42:33,175
(somber music)
904
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,555
(dramatic music)
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