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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:03,003 (ominous music) 2 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:08,591 - [Narrator] Someone is targeting 3 00:00:08,591 --> 00:00:11,135 the most vulnerable people in the city. 4 00:00:12,971 --> 00:00:15,432 The number of deaths is rising, 5 00:00:15,432 --> 00:00:18,143 and each murder escalates in violence. 6 00:00:18,143 --> 00:00:20,353 - We've got a lot of vulnerable people in Winnipeg. 7 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:23,148 How are we gonna protect them from this happening? 8 00:00:24,733 --> 00:00:27,027 - [Narrator] If this killer isn't found, 9 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:31,489 there's no telling how many more could die. 10 00:00:31,489 --> 00:00:32,449 - I'm pretty worried now 11 00:00:32,449 --> 00:00:34,367 that this is not gonna stop. 12 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:36,536 So, it's escalating all the time. 13 00:00:36,536 --> 00:00:40,165 We've got a huge problem on our hands here. 14 00:00:40,165 --> 00:00:42,792 (tense music) 15 00:00:45,086 --> 00:00:48,757 The unsolved ones, we have to stand up. 16 00:00:48,757 --> 00:00:52,719 - And approach these cases, in a way, outside the box. 17 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:54,637 - Let the world know for those out there 18 00:00:54,637 --> 00:00:55,847 that did commit a murder, 19 00:00:55,847 --> 00:00:57,974 there are people that are coming after you. 20 00:00:57,974 --> 00:00:59,434 - There's just a lot of good people 21 00:00:59,434 --> 00:01:01,352 trying to do the right thing. 22 00:01:01,352 --> 00:01:02,645 - Because it's something 23 00:01:02,645 --> 00:01:04,481 that you have to be passionate about. 24 00:01:04,481 --> 00:01:05,398 - Solve this. 25 00:01:05,398 --> 00:01:07,566 Bring some peace to the family, at least. 26 00:01:07,566 --> 00:01:09,486 Just doing my job. 27 00:01:09,486 --> 00:01:12,238 (dramatic music) 28 00:01:16,075 --> 00:01:17,410 (tense music) 29 00:01:17,410 --> 00:01:21,581 - [Narrator] In the early morning of April 10th, 2015 30 00:01:21,581 --> 00:01:23,500 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, 31 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:26,252 a transit employee finds a man 32 00:01:26,252 --> 00:01:29,672 seemingly asleep in a bus shelter. 33 00:01:29,672 --> 00:01:33,885 On closer inspection, the man is horribly injured. 34 00:01:35,678 --> 00:01:37,472 The transit worker immediately calls 35 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:39,933 for an ambulance and the police. 36 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:42,936 - They showed up, and they found 37 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:44,687 lots of bruising on his head, 38 00:01:44,687 --> 00:01:46,898 and lots of blood on the floor, 39 00:01:46,898 --> 00:01:51,361 and what was unusual was his pants had been taken off. 40 00:01:51,361 --> 00:01:52,821 At this time, they didn't know 41 00:01:52,821 --> 00:01:54,823 whether he had taken his pants off himself, 42 00:01:54,823 --> 00:01:56,658 or whether somebody else had removed it. 43 00:01:56,658 --> 00:01:58,326 It was just unusual. 44 00:01:58,326 --> 00:01:59,494 (sirens wailing) 45 00:01:59,494 --> 00:02:01,788 - [Narrator] The unknown man is rushed to the hospital, 46 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:05,125 as police begin investigating the brutal attack. 47 00:02:06,584 --> 00:02:08,419 Until the assailant is found, 48 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:11,840 the city's most vulnerable citizens could be in trouble. 49 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:17,387 Winnipeg is one of the largest cities in Canada. 50 00:02:17,387 --> 00:02:21,558 - It is a beautiful city, and it's a wonderful city. 51 00:02:21,558 --> 00:02:24,185 It's been so good to me and my family. 52 00:02:24,185 --> 00:02:25,353 And you know what? 53 00:02:25,353 --> 00:02:28,898 It's a big city, and every big city has a rough edge to it. 54 00:02:28,898 --> 00:02:33,319 Winnipeg is historically a type of frontier town, 55 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:34,821 and that's where it started off, 56 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:38,241 as a trading post, and it just progressed from that. 57 00:02:38,241 --> 00:02:43,663 And a frontier town came with all the other issues 58 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:45,582 that comes with frontier towns, 59 00:02:45,582 --> 00:02:47,375 where people could just keep on moving. 60 00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:48,334 I moved there. 61 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:50,169 I'm originally from Ireland. 62 00:02:51,087 --> 00:02:53,381 - Unfortunately, this kind of brutal attack 63 00:02:53,381 --> 00:02:56,008 is not as rare in the city of Winnipeg 64 00:02:56,008 --> 00:02:57,093 as we wished it was. 65 00:02:57,093 --> 00:02:59,721 Winnipeg has often found itself rated fairly high 66 00:02:59,721 --> 00:03:01,097 on the crime severity index, 67 00:03:01,097 --> 00:03:03,808 and the number of homicides per capita. 68 00:03:03,808 --> 00:03:05,643 - It's got a gang problem. 69 00:03:05,643 --> 00:03:08,020 It's got a poverty problem. 70 00:03:08,020 --> 00:03:10,690 It's not a a police issue 71 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:12,901 to try and solve all these things. 72 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:14,986 There's so many layers of government 73 00:03:14,986 --> 00:03:16,946 have got to get in there, 74 00:03:16,946 --> 00:03:19,616 and provide the proper education, 75 00:03:19,616 --> 00:03:24,120 and the proper direction for the youth, especially. 76 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,790 (suspenseful music) 77 00:03:27,790 --> 00:03:31,794 It was an extremely busy year for homicides, as well. 78 00:03:32,669 --> 00:03:36,216 Our unit was quite a bit smaller than it is now, 79 00:03:36,841 --> 00:03:39,928 and we had 14 investigators, 80 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:43,389 and two supervisors working in the unit, 81 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:45,600 and it was busy all the time. 82 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,687 We were supposed to work Monday to Fridays, 83 00:03:49,687 --> 00:03:52,398 but we worked around the clock, regularly. 84 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:59,030 It was not unusual to work a 15, 20, 30 hour day 85 00:03:59,614 --> 00:04:00,448 without a break. 86 00:04:01,574 --> 00:04:02,951 - [Narrator] The man in the bus shelter 87 00:04:02,951 --> 00:04:06,246 is identified as Miles Monias. 88 00:04:07,288 --> 00:04:10,959 - We were able to identify him through fingerprints. 89 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:13,962 Miles's family were extremely cooperative, 90 00:04:13,962 --> 00:04:14,963 as much as they could. 91 00:04:14,963 --> 00:04:18,174 It didn't sound like Miles had any enemies, 92 00:04:18,174 --> 00:04:21,052 any beefs with anybody in the community. 93 00:04:21,052 --> 00:04:26,266 He seemed to be a decent, happy, you know, easygoing person. 94 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:29,811 When Miles Monias was attacked, 95 00:04:29,811 --> 00:04:34,232 it was the day that the Jets made the playoffs 96 00:04:34,232 --> 00:04:35,817 for the very first time. 97 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:39,279 So Portage and Main was absolutely packed. 98 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,490 There was thousands of people out there celebrating. 99 00:04:42,490 --> 00:04:44,242 They even shut down the intersection. 100 00:04:44,242 --> 00:04:46,452 They were playing street hockey there. 101 00:04:46,452 --> 00:04:47,620 It was a good time. 102 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:49,914 A good time was had by all, everybody was happy. 103 00:04:51,249 --> 00:04:53,918 - [Narrator] On the morning when Miles Monias is found, 104 00:04:53,918 --> 00:04:57,171 there are four other people with him in the bus shelter. 105 00:04:58,589 --> 00:05:01,801 - At that time, Winnipeg Transit would come around, 106 00:05:01,801 --> 00:05:03,052 check on the bus shacks, 107 00:05:03,052 --> 00:05:07,515 and they found these five people in the bus shelter, 108 00:05:07,515 --> 00:05:08,933 and they asked them to move. 109 00:05:08,933 --> 00:05:12,979 So the four people that were still alive 110 00:05:12,979 --> 00:05:14,647 got up and moved. 111 00:05:15,690 --> 00:05:17,525 They took their blankets, 112 00:05:17,525 --> 00:05:19,319 and whatever else that they had with them, 113 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:22,822 and they just headed off south on Main Street, 114 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:24,240 and eventually into Winnipeg Square 115 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,452 into the underground, and disappeared into the morning. 116 00:05:29,370 --> 00:05:32,832 But, the transit people tried to rouse the man 117 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:35,126 that was still, they thought, sleeping. 118 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:38,755 They found him unresponsive. 119 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:40,464 They found blood around his head, 120 00:05:40,464 --> 00:05:43,134 and they realize that this person 121 00:05:43,134 --> 00:05:46,053 was most likely the victim of an assault. 122 00:05:48,222 --> 00:05:49,849 At this time, Miles was still alive. 123 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:53,226 He was transported to the hospital in critical condition, 124 00:05:53,226 --> 00:05:55,980 and he was put under observation. 125 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:59,108 He was treated, moved to the intensive care unit. 126 00:05:59,108 --> 00:06:02,737 I believe he had suffered massive head injuries 127 00:06:02,737 --> 00:06:03,904 from the attack. 128 00:06:03,904 --> 00:06:07,075 He had had previous head injury before that. 129 00:06:07,075 --> 00:06:10,661 So he was, not only was he vulnerable 130 00:06:10,661 --> 00:06:12,872 because of his circumstances, 131 00:06:12,872 --> 00:06:14,749 his health was vulnerable. 132 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:16,209 - The victim is determined to have 133 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:18,336 a substantial list of injuries, 134 00:06:18,336 --> 00:06:22,839 including bruising and swelling to the face and scalp, 135 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,134 a large bilateral craniectomy, 136 00:06:25,134 --> 00:06:28,471 massive brain swelling and herniation, 137 00:06:28,471 --> 00:06:31,724 all of which point to repeated and severe 138 00:06:31,724 --> 00:06:33,392 blunt trauma to the head. 139 00:06:34,644 --> 00:06:37,105 - One of the strange things about Miles Monias, 140 00:06:37,105 --> 00:06:38,147 and this is upsetting, 141 00:06:38,147 --> 00:06:40,358 but he had footprints on his face 142 00:06:40,358 --> 00:06:42,819 from where he was literally stomped. 143 00:06:44,821 --> 00:06:49,534 And there was two different footprints on his face, 144 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:51,786 from two different types of shoes. 145 00:06:51,786 --> 00:06:53,913 Now, that would lead you to believe 146 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:55,164 that there's two attackers, 147 00:06:55,164 --> 00:06:58,835 but it could also be the fact that somebody had odd shoes. 148 00:07:00,002 --> 00:07:05,174 The bus shack was frequented by four people who had left. 149 00:07:05,925 --> 00:07:07,051 We didn't know who they were. 150 00:07:07,051 --> 00:07:08,594 There was very little left behind. 151 00:07:08,594 --> 00:07:09,929 There was just whatever debris 152 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:12,390 was in the bus shack overnight. 153 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:15,226 There was a couple of cigarette butts. 154 00:07:15,226 --> 00:07:17,562 Could they have been there from earlier in day? 155 00:07:17,562 --> 00:07:18,855 Of course they could, you know, 156 00:07:18,855 --> 00:07:21,566 but they're just things that you pick up. 157 00:07:21,566 --> 00:07:22,692 There's a million fingerprints 158 00:07:22,692 --> 00:07:24,986 on the glass of this bus shelter. 159 00:07:24,986 --> 00:07:26,988 You take as many as you can, 160 00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:29,115 and you try and identify them, 161 00:07:29,907 --> 00:07:33,411 and you basically work with what you got. 162 00:07:33,411 --> 00:07:37,582 The scene, there's very little left behind. 163 00:07:37,582 --> 00:07:39,750 The body has been attacked. 164 00:07:40,793 --> 00:07:42,003 - When investigating a crime 165 00:07:42,003 --> 00:07:43,588 that occurred in a public place, 166 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:45,173 there can be a real situation 167 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:48,593 where there's just too much information, too much evidence. 168 00:07:48,593 --> 00:07:49,844 Think about how many people 169 00:07:49,844 --> 00:07:52,138 walk through a bus shelter every single day. 170 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:55,224 So a broken bottle you might find in a private residence 171 00:07:55,224 --> 00:07:56,976 will give you a wealth of information 172 00:07:56,976 --> 00:07:59,520 about a crime that happened that's very specific. 173 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,106 A broken bottle in a bus shelter, or in a public place, 174 00:08:02,106 --> 00:08:04,817 could have been there for days, weeks even. 175 00:08:04,817 --> 00:08:08,070 And it just adds to the complexity 176 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:10,198 of the forensic analysis that needs to be done 177 00:08:10,198 --> 00:08:11,741 on all of these pieces of evidence. 178 00:08:11,741 --> 00:08:14,327 - The Winnipeg Police Service Major Crimes Unit 179 00:08:14,327 --> 00:08:16,162 started the investigation, 180 00:08:16,162 --> 00:08:19,707 and they gathered as much intelligence 181 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:21,792 and information as they could. 182 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:23,544 There are no witnesses, 183 00:08:23,544 --> 00:08:26,214 even though there's thousands of people 184 00:08:26,214 --> 00:08:28,799 on the street earlier in the evening, 185 00:08:28,799 --> 00:08:32,595 we didn't know exactly what time Miles had been attacked. 186 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:37,558 We went out and gathered as much CCTV video as possible. 187 00:08:37,558 --> 00:08:41,229 You do see some shadows coming and going. 188 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:43,981 Unfortunately, it's all from a distance. 189 00:08:43,981 --> 00:08:46,526 Nothing that's gonna tell you who it is. 190 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:48,986 - [Narrator] The closed circuit television footage 191 00:08:48,986 --> 00:08:51,322 is taken from a building that is close by, 192 00:08:51,322 --> 00:08:54,325 but not actually meant for surveilling the bus shack. 193 00:08:54,325 --> 00:08:57,119 Because of this, while the footage shows the area, 194 00:08:57,119 --> 00:08:59,539 the actual crime is barely visible. 195 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:02,542 Still, there is some information to be gleaned. 196 00:09:03,583 --> 00:09:06,546 - Now we do see the four people coming into the shack 197 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,548 at different times during the night. 198 00:09:09,506 --> 00:09:13,010 They don't all come together, but they all leave together. 199 00:09:15,263 --> 00:09:17,598 So, there are four persons of interest. 200 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:20,601 - [Narrator] The investigation is making headway, 201 00:09:20,601 --> 00:09:24,230 but terrible news makes its way back to the Winnipeg Police. 202 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:27,984 Miles Monias is unable to survive the horrible injuries 203 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:30,820 he has sustained, and dies in hospital. 204 00:09:31,821 --> 00:09:33,573 This is no longer about an assault. 205 00:09:35,032 --> 00:09:37,827 This is now a murder investigation, 206 00:09:38,995 --> 00:09:41,581 and a killer is on the streets. 207 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:46,586 (dramatic music) 208 00:09:53,634 --> 00:09:54,885 (tense music) 209 00:09:54,885 --> 00:09:57,513 On an early spring morning in Winnipeg, Manitoba, 210 00:09:57,513 --> 00:10:00,891 a man is found brutally beaten in a bus shelter. 211 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:04,312 The man is brought to the hospital, 212 00:10:04,312 --> 00:10:07,898 and is identified soon after as Miles Monias. 213 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:12,653 The Winnipeg police begin investigating the assault, 214 00:10:12,653 --> 00:10:14,447 but the bus shack where it occurred 215 00:10:14,447 --> 00:10:15,990 has too much traffic to determine 216 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:18,618 what might actually mean anything to the case. 217 00:10:20,285 --> 00:10:24,373 Thankfully, a nearby building has a CCTV camera 218 00:10:24,373 --> 00:10:25,916 that sees the bus shack. 219 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:30,087 Though the footage isn't clear enough 220 00:10:30,087 --> 00:10:32,173 to determine who is responsible, 221 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:33,506 it does reveal four people 222 00:10:33,506 --> 00:10:36,552 who came into the bus shack throughout the night. 223 00:10:39,847 --> 00:10:41,307 Doctors do their best, 224 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:44,018 but Miles eventually succumbs to his injuries, 225 00:10:44,018 --> 00:10:45,561 and passes away. 226 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:48,314 The investigation is no longer abut an assault, 227 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:50,524 but about finding a murderer. 228 00:10:51,275 --> 00:10:53,903 (eerie music) 229 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:58,032 - By the time Miles had passed away, 230 00:10:58,032 --> 00:11:02,745 we were able to gather more of that CCTV video 231 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:05,623 from different areas on Main Street, 232 00:11:05,623 --> 00:11:07,625 and inside Winnipeg Square. 233 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:10,920 Now we have a better view of these four people. 234 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,256 We're going under the point that these 235 00:11:14,256 --> 00:11:17,218 probably are involved in Miles's death. 236 00:11:17,218 --> 00:11:20,513 I mean, they're the last people who were with him. 237 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:24,475 Our next thing is to try and identify these people, 238 00:11:24,475 --> 00:11:26,394 and it's very, very difficult. 239 00:11:26,394 --> 00:11:31,273 You've got four blurred faces from CCTV 240 00:11:31,273 --> 00:11:33,567 in April, where people are wearing heavy coats, 241 00:11:33,567 --> 00:11:35,361 they're wearing hats, they're wearing scarves and tuques, 242 00:11:35,361 --> 00:11:37,780 so, you know, everybody's covered up. 243 00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:38,780 It's Winnipeg. 244 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:41,951 We eventually, after three or four days, 245 00:11:41,951 --> 00:11:44,787 we now have an idea who these people are. 246 00:11:45,746 --> 00:11:47,456 - [Narrator] The four suspects are found 247 00:11:47,456 --> 00:11:50,292 and brought into the police station for questioning. 248 00:11:51,293 --> 00:11:52,837 - When we do find these people, 249 00:11:52,837 --> 00:11:55,089 they know absolutely nothing about what's happening. 250 00:11:55,089 --> 00:11:58,092 And our investigators, they don't know that. 251 00:11:58,968 --> 00:12:00,803 - Nearly every suspect starts by saying, 252 00:12:00,803 --> 00:12:04,849 no, it wasn't me, denying that they committed this crime. 253 00:12:04,849 --> 00:12:06,892 So then it's up to you to make a decision 254 00:12:06,892 --> 00:12:08,352 based on what you've got in front of you, 255 00:12:08,352 --> 00:12:11,647 based on your gut feelings, based on the evidence, 256 00:12:11,647 --> 00:12:15,234 and what it's telling you is, do you need to push forward, 257 00:12:15,234 --> 00:12:17,153 or do you believe what they're saying? 258 00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:21,323 - And it is hard to know if they're holding back, 259 00:12:21,323 --> 00:12:24,410 if they're lying, or if they're being completely truthful. 260 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:29,790 And it was hours and hours and hours of interview 261 00:12:30,791 --> 00:12:34,754 of each of these people before we got nowhere. 262 00:12:36,464 --> 00:12:38,174 We were literally spinning our wheels, 263 00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:40,426 focusing on these four individuals, 264 00:12:40,426 --> 00:12:43,220 and trying to find out if they weren't involved, 265 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:45,431 they must know who was involved. 266 00:12:45,431 --> 00:12:47,183 They must know what happened. 267 00:12:48,100 --> 00:12:50,561 But then again, there was the unknown factor 268 00:12:50,561 --> 00:12:53,773 that we know when these people came into the bus shack. 269 00:12:54,815 --> 00:12:56,734 There was thousands of people out in the street. 270 00:12:56,734 --> 00:13:00,154 Could it have been one of the revelers from the hockey game? 271 00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:02,530 You know, it could very easily have been. 272 00:13:02,530 --> 00:13:04,116 It's getting colder by the day. 273 00:13:04,116 --> 00:13:06,619 We've front loaded it, we've put as much into it 274 00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:08,245 as we could at the very beginning. 275 00:13:08,245 --> 00:13:09,663 We've tracked down these four people, 276 00:13:09,663 --> 00:13:12,082 we've interviewed them, we've interviewed their friends, 277 00:13:12,082 --> 00:13:13,708 we've interviewed their associates 278 00:13:13,708 --> 00:13:17,046 to see if they've made any disclosure about anything. 279 00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:20,131 This is an extremely difficult case. 280 00:13:21,717 --> 00:13:23,969 (ominous music) 281 00:13:23,969 --> 00:13:26,514 - [Narrator] But before a breakthrough can come, 282 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:29,266 another murder investigation begins. 283 00:13:30,434 --> 00:13:32,520 At a quarter to one in the morning, 284 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,981 Donald Collins' body is found behind a parking lot 285 00:13:35,981 --> 00:13:39,151 that's under construction, behind a hotel. 286 00:13:41,153 --> 00:13:44,114 - [John] And the parking lot was almost completed. 287 00:13:44,114 --> 00:13:46,617 The construction of this and a multi-story car park 288 00:13:46,617 --> 00:13:49,787 was underway, and it was almost completed 289 00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:51,121 and ready to be opened. 290 00:13:52,706 --> 00:13:56,418 So, I get called at home at 20 past one in the morning. 291 00:13:56,418 --> 00:13:58,629 This is on a Saturday morning. 292 00:13:58,629 --> 00:14:01,298 I make my way up to this crime scene. 293 00:14:01,298 --> 00:14:02,842 It's a violent scene. 294 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:05,052 It's disturbing. 295 00:14:06,011 --> 00:14:09,849 No matter how many times you've seen it, it's disturbing. 296 00:14:10,599 --> 00:14:12,852 - [Narrator] The attack appears to be even more brutal 297 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:15,396 than what happened to Miles Monias. 298 00:14:15,396 --> 00:14:16,772 (camera clicks) 299 00:14:16,772 --> 00:14:19,859 - The second victim's injuries include a scalp hemorrhage 300 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:23,696 and multi contusions to the side of the head. 301 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:27,366 Nasal fractures, multifocal lacerations, 302 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:29,285 and hemorrhage to the neck muscles, 303 00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:31,495 and a stab wound to the neck. 304 00:14:31,495 --> 00:14:33,664 They're once again injuries consistent 305 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:35,749 with blunt trauma to the head. 306 00:14:35,749 --> 00:14:38,586 But this time, strangulation and stabbing 307 00:14:38,586 --> 00:14:39,879 are added to that. 308 00:14:40,838 --> 00:14:43,465 - Now, the body had been found by a pizza delivery guy 309 00:14:43,465 --> 00:14:46,302 who was taking a shortcut through the car park 310 00:14:46,302 --> 00:14:48,596 to get to, I think to the hotel. 311 00:14:48,596 --> 00:14:52,391 And he had alerted a security guard at the construction site 312 00:14:52,391 --> 00:14:54,310 that he had found the body, 313 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:57,438 and the security guard had called the police. 314 00:14:57,438 --> 00:14:59,857 These people, even though they're the first people 315 00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:01,066 to find the body, 316 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:04,445 they had nothing to do with it, and didn't know anything. 317 00:15:04,445 --> 00:15:07,239 He's got an address on Carlton Street. 318 00:15:07,239 --> 00:15:09,366 Donald Collins isn't homeless, 319 00:15:09,366 --> 00:15:11,410 but he is a very vulnerable person. 320 00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:13,662 We found out that he's a ward of the public trustee, 321 00:15:13,662 --> 00:15:17,374 which means that he does have extremely vulnerable issues, 322 00:15:17,374 --> 00:15:20,586 where they have taken over his day-to-day care. 323 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:23,714 There were drag marks on the ground, 324 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:26,884 and there was a belt wrapped around Mr. Collins's neck. 325 00:15:26,884 --> 00:15:30,179 He had been beaten badly, and like I say, 326 00:15:30,179 --> 00:15:33,641 his clothes had been stripped from him as well. 327 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,727 - [Narrator] The police interviewed the security guard 328 00:15:36,727 --> 00:15:38,979 who called in, but there is very little 329 00:15:38,979 --> 00:15:40,940 for their investigation to go on. 330 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:43,901 (camera clicks) 331 00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:45,361 - It's around six in the morning now, 332 00:15:45,361 --> 00:15:48,781 and I'm starting to think, okay, this guy has been stripped. 333 00:15:48,781 --> 00:15:52,368 The guy a week earlier had been stripped, Miles Monias, 334 00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:57,122 so maybe, and they're both killed in a similar fashion. 335 00:15:57,122 --> 00:15:58,582 The belt was different. 336 00:15:58,582 --> 00:16:01,961 So you know, that's a bit of a wild card right now. 337 00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:05,547 We have started to collect some video. 338 00:16:05,547 --> 00:16:09,426 We went back to Mr. Collins's apartment, 339 00:16:09,426 --> 00:16:12,054 and there was video inside and outside, 340 00:16:12,054 --> 00:16:15,224 and we know that he left his residence 341 00:16:15,224 --> 00:16:18,352 at 20 past 10 at night, the night before. 342 00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:23,774 Basically walked around the area, 343 00:16:23,774 --> 00:16:25,567 picked up a few cigarette butts, 344 00:16:25,567 --> 00:16:30,990 and he's just walking through that downtown area. 345 00:16:33,742 --> 00:16:35,411 The next time that we see him, 346 00:16:35,411 --> 00:16:38,288 we see him on video in front of the liquor store 347 00:16:38,288 --> 00:16:39,790 on Ellice and Hargrave, 348 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:41,125 and he's picked up in their 349 00:16:41,125 --> 00:16:45,129 outside surveillance video as well, at 25 past 10. 350 00:16:48,298 --> 00:16:51,719 We then see him walking across the road, 351 00:16:51,719 --> 00:16:54,722 and there's a shadow with him. 352 00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:56,724 I say a shadow, there's somebody 353 00:16:56,724 --> 00:16:58,851 that's all in black, unrecognizable. 354 00:16:58,851 --> 00:17:02,229 It's almost out of video, and we don't know that he's, 355 00:17:02,229 --> 00:17:03,564 but he's there. 356 00:17:03,564 --> 00:17:06,191 (tense music) 357 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:08,359 - [Narrator] Progress is made 358 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,904 on the Donald Collins case throughout the day, 359 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,452 but by the evening, it is forced to be put on hold 360 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:18,787 when another body is found. 361 00:17:18,787 --> 00:17:22,458 - We're still on the 25th, it's 10 after seven actually, 362 00:17:22,458 --> 00:17:25,961 and we get notified that another body has been found 363 00:17:25,961 --> 00:17:28,714 very, very close to Donald Collins's body, 364 00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:32,051 behind 339 Portage Avenue. 365 00:17:32,051 --> 00:17:33,510 (ominous music) 366 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:36,597 The third victim was identified as Stony Bushie. 367 00:17:36,597 --> 00:17:39,808 Mr. Bushie was another homeless person. 368 00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:43,020 His body was concealed in a construction site 369 00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:45,064 behind 339 Portage. 370 00:17:45,981 --> 00:17:48,859 It was covered with pallets and plywood, 371 00:17:48,859 --> 00:17:54,323 and he had been beaten up pretty bad as well, and stomped. 372 00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:58,994 The saving grace of this one 373 00:17:58,994 --> 00:18:02,330 was that there was a lot of surveillance video in the area. 374 00:18:02,330 --> 00:18:04,500 There was video from the Air Canada building. 375 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:06,460 There was video from the APTN building, 376 00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:08,629 all in the the back area. 377 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,050 So we were able to tell exactly when this attack occurred, 378 00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:17,888 and it actually turned out that Stony Bushie was killed 379 00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:19,431 before Donald Collins. 380 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:23,602 - The third victim's list of injuries 381 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:26,814 includes severe linear lacerations 382 00:18:26,814 --> 00:18:28,232 to this side of the head, 383 00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:32,027 and multiple fractures to the left side of the head. 384 00:18:32,027 --> 00:18:35,614 There are subdural and subarachnoid hemorrhages, 385 00:18:35,614 --> 00:18:39,576 a partial fracture of the seventh cervical vertebrae, 386 00:18:39,576 --> 00:18:43,955 and patterned stains consistent with possible footprints. 387 00:18:43,955 --> 00:18:46,750 Once again, these injuries are consistent 388 00:18:46,750 --> 00:18:49,795 with the first victim, but built upon. 389 00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:52,464 - [Narrator] Another element that all three murders 390 00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:54,465 appear to have in common 391 00:18:54,465 --> 00:18:57,469 is that the victims' pants have all been removed. 392 00:18:58,595 --> 00:19:00,222 - At this point, I firmly believed 393 00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:03,142 that the three of them are related, 394 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:06,895 but I also now see that there's a huge escalation 395 00:19:06,895 --> 00:19:10,566 between the three of them, in the violence that's there. 396 00:19:10,566 --> 00:19:13,068 (tense music) 397 00:19:13,068 --> 00:19:16,155 Miles Monias was beaten, kicked, and stomped. 398 00:19:18,448 --> 00:19:23,369 Stony Bushie was beaten, stomped on, 399 00:19:23,369 --> 00:19:25,580 and beaten with a two by four. 400 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,002 And then his body was concealed. 401 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:37,759 And then Donald Collins was beaten. 402 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:40,429 He had a belt wrapped around his neck, 403 00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:44,183 and he was cut from his neck to his waist. 404 00:19:45,309 --> 00:19:48,186 So, it's escalating all the time. 405 00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,147 - [Narrator] With three murder victims 406 00:19:50,147 --> 00:19:52,441 discovered in less than two weeks, 407 00:19:52,441 --> 00:19:55,194 the city's most vulnerable population 408 00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,529 could be in terrible trouble. 409 00:19:57,529 --> 00:20:00,490 (tense music) 410 00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:01,407 - I'm pretty worried now 411 00:20:01,407 --> 00:20:03,160 that this is not gonna stop, 412 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,369 and it's getting, they're more and more frequent. 413 00:20:05,369 --> 00:20:08,832 There's only hours between them now, instead of days. 414 00:20:08,832 --> 00:20:12,586 And we've got a huge problem on our hands here. 415 00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:17,382 (dramatic music) 416 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:30,354 - [Narrator] Miles Monias is found barely hanging onto life 417 00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:33,232 after being severely beaten in a bus shelter. 418 00:20:37,819 --> 00:20:40,656 Sadly, while the investigation into the assault 419 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:43,992 is just beginning, Miles dies in the hospital. 420 00:20:44,534 --> 00:20:45,869 (monitor beeps) 421 00:20:45,869 --> 00:20:49,957 With CCTV footage revealing four possible suspects, 422 00:20:49,957 --> 00:20:51,583 the case starts strong. 423 00:20:52,542 --> 00:20:54,461 But after each lead runs its course, 424 00:20:54,461 --> 00:20:56,255 it looks more and more likely 425 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:59,758 that Miles's murder might never be solved, 426 00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:01,260 at least anytime soon. 427 00:21:02,052 --> 00:21:04,012 Two more murder victims are discovered, 428 00:21:04,012 --> 00:21:05,847 and the similarities to each other, 429 00:21:05,847 --> 00:21:08,517 and how Miles was found, makes it possible 430 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:10,560 that all three attacks could have been committed 431 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,271 by the same individual. 432 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:14,523 - One of the things we're trying to do 433 00:21:14,523 --> 00:21:17,359 is we're trying to see is there any relationship 434 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,111 between these three victims? 435 00:21:19,111 --> 00:21:20,487 And there doesn't appear to be, 436 00:21:20,487 --> 00:21:21,863 so we're looking now 437 00:21:21,863 --> 00:21:24,657 at random killings of vulnerable people. 438 00:21:24,657 --> 00:21:25,742 It's very disturbing. 439 00:21:25,742 --> 00:21:28,328 We've got a lot of vulnerable people in Winnipeg, 440 00:21:28,328 --> 00:21:29,371 and we've gotta, 441 00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:33,292 how are we gonna protect them from this happening? 442 00:21:36,169 --> 00:21:37,838 - [Narrator] As with the first two murders, 443 00:21:37,838 --> 00:21:39,923 the police search for more CCTV footage 444 00:21:39,923 --> 00:21:43,427 that may shed any light on Stony Bushie's attack. 445 00:21:43,427 --> 00:21:45,470 - We got very, very lucky with the CCTV 446 00:21:45,470 --> 00:21:48,056 because of the areas where it happened, 447 00:21:48,056 --> 00:21:50,851 especially the last two homicides, 448 00:21:50,851 --> 00:21:52,311 Collins and Bushie, 449 00:21:52,894 --> 00:21:56,523 they're unfortunately high crime areas, 450 00:21:56,523 --> 00:22:00,152 and a lot of businesses have CCTV for their own security. 451 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:04,114 The business community in that area were phenomenal. 452 00:22:04,114 --> 00:22:06,616 It was a weekend, and they brought in people, 453 00:22:06,616 --> 00:22:08,994 and they downloaded as much video. 454 00:22:08,994 --> 00:22:11,371 We told 'em what we believed we were investigating. 455 00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:15,208 We told 'em, we believe we're investigating a serial killer 456 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:19,004 who is out there picking on the most vulnerable people 457 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:20,797 in our society, our homeless people. 458 00:22:20,797 --> 00:22:23,717 And they dropped everything and came, 459 00:22:23,717 --> 00:22:24,926 and that was fantastic. 460 00:22:24,926 --> 00:22:27,012 We couldn't have asked for more. 461 00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:29,473 - [Narrator] Sifting through the CCTV footage 462 00:22:29,473 --> 00:22:31,141 eventually pays off. 463 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:34,186 - We find video on Ellice Avenue, 464 00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:36,605 A couple of shots of Stony Bushie 465 00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:38,815 walking with an individual. 466 00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:39,775 The video is terrible. 467 00:22:39,775 --> 00:22:41,943 The quality is brutal. 468 00:22:41,943 --> 00:22:46,406 It's video of a man dressed in black. 469 00:22:46,406 --> 00:22:49,785 He's carrying a colored backpack, 470 00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:51,828 and he's with Stony Bushie. 471 00:22:51,828 --> 00:22:54,915 We have black and white shots that are taken at night, 472 00:22:54,915 --> 00:22:56,917 but the lighting is terrible. 473 00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,377 You're looking at street lights, 474 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:03,048 and relatively cheaper security systems, 475 00:23:03,048 --> 00:23:04,090 and they're all in place 476 00:23:04,090 --> 00:23:05,384 to protect the buildings they're on. 477 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:06,927 They're not there to spy on people, 478 00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:09,304 it's just, people walk into these shots. 479 00:23:09,304 --> 00:23:11,390 One of the better pictures that we have 480 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:16,770 is from the liquor store at Hargrave and Ellice. 481 00:23:17,813 --> 00:23:21,608 And we do see Stony Bushie and this individual 482 00:23:21,608 --> 00:23:25,487 having a very quick conversation with a security guard 483 00:23:25,487 --> 00:23:28,573 who's stationed outside the liquor store, 484 00:23:28,573 --> 00:23:32,285 and then walking south towards the Air Canada building, 485 00:23:32,285 --> 00:23:34,621 and towards where Stony Bushie was killed. 486 00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:37,791 - [Narrator] The police plan to interview the security guard 487 00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:40,877 in hopes that they can help identify their suspect, 488 00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:43,839 but when they arrive, they receive a setback. 489 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:45,924 - We find out that security guard, 490 00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:47,717 that was his last day at work. 491 00:23:47,717 --> 00:23:49,261 He's on a Greyhound bus, 492 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:52,597 and he's heading to Fort McMurray to start a new job. 493 00:23:52,597 --> 00:23:55,517 Okay, now what do we do, you know? 494 00:23:55,517 --> 00:23:57,144 - [Narrator] The police are doing all they can 495 00:23:57,144 --> 00:23:58,645 to find their suspect. 496 00:23:58,645 --> 00:24:01,690 Every moment wasted could mean another death. 497 00:24:02,566 --> 00:24:04,609 - The first thing we do is we put together 498 00:24:04,609 --> 00:24:07,529 an internal wanted poster, 499 00:24:08,446 --> 00:24:10,323 and send it out to every single member 500 00:24:10,323 --> 00:24:12,032 of the Winnipeg Police Service. 501 00:24:12,032 --> 00:24:14,453 This is something that they get in their email. 502 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,205 Those that are working, they can look at it. 503 00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:18,540 If they come across somebody 504 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:20,125 that looks like this individual, 505 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:23,003 they can detain them and get 'em to us. 506 00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:24,504 If it's somebody else who's off, 507 00:24:24,504 --> 00:24:26,047 and they happen to open their email, 508 00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:28,800 and they recognize this person, they will call. 509 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,427 We got nothing from that. 510 00:24:30,427 --> 00:24:32,721 - [Narrator] But getting the word out internally 511 00:24:32,721 --> 00:24:36,224 isn't enough, and the police decide it would be best 512 00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:38,018 to hold a press conference. 513 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:40,854 All the police can do is wait, 514 00:24:40,854 --> 00:24:43,064 hoping someone calls in with information 515 00:24:43,064 --> 00:24:44,232 that could be helpful. 516 00:24:44,232 --> 00:24:47,234 But every second waiting is another second 517 00:24:47,234 --> 00:24:49,279 where the killer is still on the streets. 518 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:54,826 - So, we had the news conference, and it was within an hour, 519 00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:58,914 we had name of who this person was. 520 00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:02,125 We got calls from people in the city 521 00:25:02,125 --> 00:25:04,711 who were involved in social services, 522 00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:06,922 who were involved with shelters. 523 00:25:06,922 --> 00:25:08,840 Nationwide paid off as well, 524 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,636 because we got a phone call from Fort Hope, Ontario, 525 00:25:12,636 --> 00:25:14,763 which is several hundred kilometers above, 526 00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:17,516 four or 500 kilometers north of Thunder Bay 527 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:19,267 in a very remote community. 528 00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:23,522 And this man said that he recognized the individual 529 00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:25,815 as his brother, John Ostamas. 530 00:25:25,815 --> 00:25:28,527 (eerie music) 531 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:34,950 When I put out that bulletin to the media 532 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:37,285 of this blurred picture 533 00:25:37,285 --> 00:25:40,580 that looked like, it barely looked like anything to me. 534 00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:43,208 And I thought, okay, if we get a hit on this, 535 00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:46,086 I mean, it's like we've won the lottery. 536 00:25:46,086 --> 00:25:48,004 And we got four or five phone calls, 537 00:25:48,004 --> 00:25:49,422 and they were all of the same person. 538 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:50,965 I could not believe that. 539 00:25:50,965 --> 00:25:52,217 If that didn't happen, 540 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:55,262 if we didn't get that grainy, dull picture 541 00:25:55,262 --> 00:25:59,432 on Ellice Avenue of him walking, we would've had nothing. 542 00:25:59,432 --> 00:26:01,101 I have enough to arrest him. 543 00:26:01,101 --> 00:26:02,602 I don't have enough to charge him. 544 00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:04,229 Nowhere close. 545 00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:06,439 I also have to find this guy. 546 00:26:06,439 --> 00:26:10,859 My best way of identifying him is this security guard 547 00:26:10,859 --> 00:26:14,071 who's on a bus on his way to Fort McMurray. 548 00:26:14,071 --> 00:26:15,657 So I look into my incident room, 549 00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:19,828 and I call two of my detectives and I say, okay, 550 00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:21,997 you guys pack a bag. 551 00:26:21,997 --> 00:26:24,040 You're flying to Fort McMurray. 552 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,126 And they said, well, really? 553 00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:27,460 You know, and I said yeah, 554 00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:29,337 you gotta go meet this bus, and interview this guy, 555 00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:32,465 and show him a photo lineup of John Ostamas 556 00:26:32,465 --> 00:26:34,593 now that we have an identification on him. 557 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:36,386 Normally, there's a bunch of hoops 558 00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:39,263 that we should go through to get this. 559 00:26:39,263 --> 00:26:40,473 There was no time for that. 560 00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:42,851 I opened my drawer, pulled out my credit card, 561 00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:45,061 and I gave him the credit card, said, book the flight. 562 00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:47,772 We'll beg for forgiveness next week. 563 00:26:47,772 --> 00:26:51,776 (plane engine roaring) (tense music) 564 00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:53,445 They identified him with the photograph 565 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:55,530 that we got from Thunder Bay. 566 00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:56,823 We go through our database, 567 00:26:56,823 --> 00:26:58,532 and we select nine other photographs 568 00:26:58,532 --> 00:27:02,037 which are similar in appearance. 569 00:27:02,037 --> 00:27:05,498 And we showed him an array of 10 photographs, 570 00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:07,208 and right away, this security guard 571 00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:10,629 picked up this photograph of John Ostamas. 572 00:27:11,546 --> 00:27:13,548 When I sent the guys out there, 573 00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:15,050 as they were leaving the office, 574 00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:16,843 I kinda jokingly said to 'em, 575 00:27:16,843 --> 00:27:19,638 if you don't get an ID, don't come back. 576 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:21,765 So they phoned me and they said, guess what? 577 00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:22,766 We got an ID. 578 00:27:23,892 --> 00:27:25,310 100% positive ID. 579 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:28,647 So I said okay, well you're welcome to come back. 580 00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,941 - [Narrator] With a positive ID on John Ostamas, 581 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,653 the next step is to find him 582 00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:38,365 before he finds another victim. 583 00:27:38,365 --> 00:27:40,992 (tense music) 584 00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:45,163 (gentle music) 585 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,340 (ominous music) 586 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,759 When three murders happen within two weeks, 587 00:27:57,759 --> 00:27:59,594 the Winnipeg police become worried 588 00:27:59,594 --> 00:28:02,097 for their most vulnerable population. 589 00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:04,891 Though there is a clear escalation in violence 590 00:28:04,891 --> 00:28:06,351 with each attack, 591 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:09,061 the investigation believes that the same person 592 00:28:09,061 --> 00:28:11,398 may be responsible for all three. 593 00:28:11,398 --> 00:28:14,567 CCTV footage is proven to be invaluable, 594 00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:16,945 and gives the police an image of a suspect 595 00:28:16,945 --> 00:28:18,696 that they bring to the public. 596 00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,950 Within hours of holding a press conference, 597 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:24,703 they have a name, John Ostamas. 598 00:28:25,494 --> 00:28:28,164 But knowing who he is isn't enough. 599 00:28:28,164 --> 00:28:31,209 They need to immediately get him off the street. 600 00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:32,711 - Now we gotta find him, 601 00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,089 but it's a different kind of pressure now. 602 00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:39,342 It's okay, now we're not looking for a needle in a haystack. 603 00:28:39,342 --> 00:28:40,802 We're looking for an individual 604 00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:42,429 in a city of a million people. 605 00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:44,681 But you know, we've done that before, 606 00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:47,100 and we've done it very successfully. 607 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,019 - [Narrator] A face and name to help their investigation 608 00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:51,438 leads to more information 609 00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:55,191 on Ostamas's actions, outside of the murders. 610 00:28:55,191 --> 00:28:56,484 - Now we had a trail to follow. 611 00:28:56,484 --> 00:29:00,613 We're knocking on doors, we're finding out different things. 612 00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:02,824 We find out that on the Friday 613 00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:05,660 before the murder of Stony Bushie, 614 00:29:06,619 --> 00:29:10,457 John Ostamas goes to the Winnipeg Hotel on Main Street. 615 00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:13,209 He lights a fire upstairs in a corridor, 616 00:29:13,209 --> 00:29:16,421 and the hotel has to be evacuated. 617 00:29:18,381 --> 00:29:20,633 It's brought under control very quickly, 618 00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:22,218 but this is a residential hotel 619 00:29:22,218 --> 00:29:24,471 where a lot of vulnerable people live. 620 00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:26,556 The whole place had to be evacuated. 621 00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:29,058 Again, he's caught on video doing this. 622 00:29:29,058 --> 00:29:31,436 - [Narrator] One of the places that the police look into 623 00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:34,606 is the Employment and Income Assistance Office. 624 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:36,316 - We're now into Monday. 625 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,193 The city is coming alive again. 626 00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:40,153 It's starting to to wake up. 627 00:29:40,153 --> 00:29:41,446 Businesses are opening. 628 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:45,742 We go to the Social Assistance Office on Rorie Street. 629 00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:49,204 The investigators ask if he's known to them. 630 00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:50,955 They don't know who he is, 631 00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:53,958 but they flag his name in case he does come in. 632 00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:57,462 That afternoon, we get a phone call from EIA 633 00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:01,549 saying that he's in their office right now, on Rorie Street. 634 00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:06,429 And this is a red alert, and I scramble as many crews I can. 635 00:30:06,429 --> 00:30:09,224 I send three teams over to Rorie Street. 636 00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:10,225 It's a short distance 637 00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:12,185 from the public safety building to Rorie, 638 00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,229 but they're going at a million miles per hour, 639 00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:15,396 like lights and sirens. 640 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:18,233 And when they get there, sure enough, 641 00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:20,693 John Ostamas is there, and they arrest him. 642 00:30:20,693 --> 00:30:24,155 He's calm, he's easy to to deal with. 643 00:30:24,155 --> 00:30:26,324 He's told at the time that he's under arrest 644 00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:28,243 for murder or similar offense. 645 00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:32,080 He shrugs it off, and he's handcuffed, 646 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,167 and he's brought into the public safety building. 647 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:39,254 I view him, as he comes in, as the supervisor. 648 00:30:39,254 --> 00:30:42,423 I ask him a few questions to make sure 649 00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:45,552 that he doesn't need any medical attention, 650 00:30:45,552 --> 00:30:50,557 that he understands why he's there, and he's fine. 651 00:30:50,557 --> 00:30:55,186 He's polite, he's understanding everything I say to him. 652 00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:56,688 Ask him, does he want anything? 653 00:30:56,688 --> 00:31:00,066 He says he's hungry, so we provide him with some food. 654 00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:04,279 He wants coffee, kept asking for coffee. 655 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:05,488 He had a few cigarettes. 656 00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:07,448 He ate several sandwiches. 657 00:31:07,448 --> 00:31:09,576 After it was explained to him, 658 00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,494 his legal rights were provided to him, 659 00:31:11,494 --> 00:31:15,540 and his right to a lawyer, and his police caution 660 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:18,376 that anything he said would be recorded 661 00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:19,794 and used against him, 662 00:31:19,794 --> 00:31:24,591 and that he was being arrested for three homicides, 663 00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:27,886 he said he wanted to speak with a lawyer. 664 00:31:28,803 --> 00:31:32,181 - [Narrator] Ostamas requests a lawyer from Thunder Bay, 665 00:31:32,181 --> 00:31:35,894 but when that lawyer is called, he recommends someone local. 666 00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:38,980 The lawyer comes to talk to Ostamas, 667 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,815 but soon leaves after, 668 00:31:40,815 --> 00:31:44,485 giving his client the advice to not speak to the police. 669 00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:47,530 - A lawyer is always gonna tell their client not to talk, 670 00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:49,574 and it's always in their client's best interest 671 00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:50,825 not to make a statement. 672 00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:54,245 But in the end, this is a recommendation, and not the law. 673 00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:56,414 If the client chooses to talk anyway, 674 00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:58,666 there's nothing to be done about it. 675 00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:00,710 - After a while, the investigators 676 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:04,589 got some background information from John Ostamas. 677 00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:07,258 He started off with a bizarre story of an injury 678 00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:08,509 that had occurred to him 679 00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:10,637 when he was in his very early teens. 680 00:32:10,637 --> 00:32:14,474 Couple of RCMP officers beat him up in Fort Hope, 681 00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:16,851 and he was badly injured, 682 00:32:16,851 --> 00:32:19,896 and he had PTSD after that, and everything. 683 00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:21,481 And that that didn't sit right with me. 684 00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:23,524 That just sounded wrong, 685 00:32:23,524 --> 00:32:26,611 because the RCMP haven't policed in Ontario 686 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:29,155 for probably close to a 100 years, 687 00:32:29,155 --> 00:32:30,531 and it's the OPP. 688 00:32:30,531 --> 00:32:34,243 John knows the difference between the OPP and the RCMP. 689 00:32:34,243 --> 00:32:36,788 - The RCMP is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 690 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:40,708 It's a national police service for the country of Canada. 691 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:43,211 The RCMP provides contract policing services 692 00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:45,505 to all provinces and territories in the country, 693 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:47,966 with the exception of Ontario and Quebec. 694 00:32:48,925 --> 00:32:51,886 - [Narrator] Ostamas's story about the RCMP 695 00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:53,513 loses even more credibility 696 00:32:53,513 --> 00:32:55,765 when the Winnipeg police speak to his brother, 697 00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:58,685 and learn the event never occurred. 698 00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:00,228 - He started to talk about, 699 00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:03,314 he wanted to get this off his chest, 700 00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:06,442 and he said, "I've actually killed a lot of people." 701 00:33:06,442 --> 00:33:07,568 This is where he said, 702 00:33:07,568 --> 00:33:10,989 "I've killed a lot of people, not just here." 703 00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,658 He said, "I've killed the three people here," 704 00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:16,995 now a confirmation for me that he's killed the three people 705 00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:19,372 including Miles Monias. 706 00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:22,333 But he said he's killed people in New York, as well, 707 00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:24,127 and in other places. 708 00:33:25,294 --> 00:33:27,964 Now I'm thinking, okay, and this is rambling of a guy 709 00:33:27,964 --> 00:33:32,301 who's trying to build an insanity case or something. 710 00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:34,512 In the meantime, other investigators 711 00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,639 are now searching social media, 712 00:33:36,639 --> 00:33:38,641 and sure enough, there's photographs 713 00:33:38,641 --> 00:33:40,810 on John Ostamas' Facebook account, 714 00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,061 and here he is in New York 715 00:33:42,061 --> 00:33:44,772 with photographs of selfies taken of him 716 00:33:44,772 --> 00:33:48,484 in different places in New York over different years. 717 00:33:48,484 --> 00:33:51,029 So, maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. 718 00:33:51,946 --> 00:33:54,907 - [Narrator] Ostamas soon starts giving more details 719 00:33:54,907 --> 00:33:56,409 into the recent murders. 720 00:33:57,285 --> 00:34:01,164 - He talks about the Miles Monias homicide. 721 00:34:01,164 --> 00:34:05,668 How he just went into the bus shack and killed him. 722 00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:09,297 He never really gave her a reason for killing Miles Monias. 723 00:34:09,297 --> 00:34:10,465 He described how he killed him, 724 00:34:10,465 --> 00:34:12,800 and it was brutal, absolutely brutal. 725 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,802 He said Miles Monias was sleeping 726 00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:16,554 when he attacked him, 727 00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:20,600 and he talked about stomping on his head, 728 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,478 and trying to snap his neck and you know, 729 00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:27,356 just a brutal physical assault. 730 00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:30,151 He said that he went the to the river, 731 00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:32,236 and changed his clothing after that assault. 732 00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:36,074 And he said he always wore two or three layers of clothing, 733 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:38,951 and he threw the top layer of clothing into the river, 734 00:34:38,951 --> 00:34:41,996 and then he just continued on his business. 735 00:34:41,996 --> 00:34:46,000 Then he went on to talk about the Stony Bushie homicide, 736 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,670 and confirming that this was the second one. 737 00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:53,007 He said that he met Stony Bushie on the street randomly, 738 00:34:53,007 --> 00:34:54,509 near the Quest Hotel. 739 00:34:55,510 --> 00:35:00,681 He said that Stony Bushie asked him, was he the devil? 740 00:35:01,556 --> 00:35:04,685 And he said, yes, and he said, follow me. 741 00:35:04,685 --> 00:35:07,271 And he said Stony Bushie just followed him 742 00:35:07,271 --> 00:35:08,815 down to where he killed him. 743 00:35:08,815 --> 00:35:12,819 He described, in detail, the attack on Stony Bushie, 744 00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:14,320 which we were able to confirm 745 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,032 because we had a lot of it recorded on CCTV, 746 00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:20,284 even though it was from a distance. 747 00:35:20,284 --> 00:35:22,870 It was brutal, and he didn't blink an eye, 748 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,998 he didn't show any emotion when he spoke about this. 749 00:35:25,998 --> 00:35:31,212 He literally just talked about, it was so matter of fact. 750 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,550 He said after the Stony Bushie homicide, 751 00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:38,136 he went to the river and changed his clothes. 752 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,723 Then he came back, and he found Donald Collins 753 00:35:42,723 --> 00:35:43,766 in the same manner. 754 00:35:43,766 --> 00:35:45,476 And he said Donald Collins asked him, 755 00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:46,853 was he the devil as well? 756 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:48,646 And he said, yes I am, and follow me. 757 00:35:48,646 --> 00:35:50,314 Did this happen, who knows? 758 00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:51,649 I doubt it very much. 759 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:55,402 But, this was what he was giving us. 760 00:35:55,402 --> 00:35:57,989 He led Donald Collins into the corner 761 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:01,200 of this new unoccupied parking lot, 762 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,661 and he literally slaughtered him as well. 763 00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:04,871 And he had the detail, 764 00:36:04,871 --> 00:36:08,541 which was all holdback evidence of the belt around the neck 765 00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:09,542 and the cutting. 766 00:36:09,542 --> 00:36:11,210 This was something that wasn't known, 767 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,129 the stripping of the bodies. 768 00:36:13,129 --> 00:36:15,256 It's something that we were able to, 769 00:36:15,256 --> 00:36:17,175 that we knew that okay, 770 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:19,677 only the person who was there and did this 771 00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,344 can have these details. 772 00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:24,473 - [Narrator] Ostamas claims there was a reason 773 00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:25,683 for these attacks. 774 00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:28,060 That three men raped his girlfriend, 775 00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:29,979 and he was out for revenge. 776 00:36:31,439 --> 00:36:32,773 - We had spoken to the girl, 777 00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:34,984 and we actually went out and double checked on that. 778 00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:36,777 Was he provoked into doing this? 779 00:36:36,777 --> 00:36:38,863 First of all, our three victims 780 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:43,284 never had any contact with this woman, ever. 781 00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:45,870 She wasn't even like a girlfriend. 782 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,956 She was more like an ex, and an acquaintance. 783 00:36:48,956 --> 00:36:54,212 And again, this was, I think, John's mind reaching for, 784 00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:57,672 trying to maybe normalize it for himself even, you know? 785 00:36:57,672 --> 00:37:01,219 That he had felt compelled to go and do this. 786 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:03,554 - [Narrator] But one thing gnaws at the police. 787 00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,641 Ostamas speaks of other murders he committed. 788 00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:09,936 It could be possible that there are more bodies to be found. 789 00:37:09,936 --> 00:37:11,896 - Eventually, get him to open up about that, 790 00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:17,276 and he talks about two other murders in Winnipeg 791 00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:20,279 going back to the early 2000s. 792 00:37:20,279 --> 00:37:24,784 One of them we found, and it wasn't a homicide. 793 00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:30,248 It was an extremely severe beating of a homeless individual. 794 00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:34,460 The man didn't die, and he survived that beating. 795 00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:38,005 However, he died several years after that 796 00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:40,258 from an unrelated incident, 797 00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:43,135 or from natural causes, actually. 798 00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:45,263 The other one John spoke about 799 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:47,014 was he said it occurred 800 00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:49,767 behind the Woodbine Hotel on Main Street, 801 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:53,187 and he said that he had killed another individual 802 00:37:53,187 --> 00:37:56,274 several months after the the Ford Street one. 803 00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:57,900 We never found that. 804 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:02,238 There were similarities to an unsolved homicide in 2007, 805 00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:04,907 but it happened near the Northern Hotel. 806 00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:08,035 And I'm always wondering, were they related? 807 00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:11,372 And we never could bring them close enough together, 808 00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,709 but we never found the attack that he spoke about. 809 00:38:14,709 --> 00:38:16,752 - [Narrator] Ostamas talks about more murders 810 00:38:16,752 --> 00:38:18,379 outside of the country, 811 00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:21,632 but Winnipeg police have no way to confirm. 812 00:38:22,508 --> 00:38:25,136 Ostamas has killed at least three people, 813 00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:28,514 and the violence has escalated severely. 814 00:38:28,514 --> 00:38:32,018 He claims to be responsible for many more. 815 00:38:32,018 --> 00:38:34,103 One thing police know for sure, 816 00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:37,982 this man needs to be taken off the streets. 817 00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:40,860 (dramatic music) 818 00:38:42,777 --> 00:38:45,448 (gentle music) 819 00:38:47,658 --> 00:38:49,201 (ominous music) 820 00:38:49,201 --> 00:38:52,288 John Ostamas is believed to have murdered three people 821 00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:55,082 in less than two weeks in Winnipeg, Manitoba. 822 00:38:56,125 --> 00:38:59,295 Miles Monias, Stony Bushie, and Donald Collins 823 00:38:59,295 --> 00:39:01,922 are all found having been severely beaten, 824 00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:04,759 each murder more violent than the last. 825 00:39:05,801 --> 00:39:08,179 The original charges made against John Ostamas 826 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,306 are for two counts of first degree murder, 827 00:39:10,306 --> 00:39:12,975 and one count of second degree murder. 828 00:39:12,975 --> 00:39:14,393 His lawyer makes a motion 829 00:39:14,393 --> 00:39:16,937 to change them all to second degree murder 830 00:39:16,937 --> 00:39:19,815 with the provision that Ostamas will plead guilty 831 00:39:19,815 --> 00:39:21,692 if this motion is passed. 832 00:39:21,692 --> 00:39:24,362 - Monias's murder is most likely classified differently 833 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,906 from the other two, because of how much it appears 834 00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:30,951 like it could have been a spontaneous decision. 835 00:39:30,951 --> 00:39:33,746 Monias was attacked where he was found asleep. 836 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:35,956 The other two appear more premeditated, 837 00:39:35,956 --> 00:39:38,417 as they were both brought to a secondary location 838 00:39:38,417 --> 00:39:40,169 before they were attacked. 839 00:39:41,003 --> 00:39:42,546 - [Narrator] There are theories of sexual assault 840 00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:45,466 because of the clothing that is removed from the victims, 841 00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:47,718 but Ostamas denies it all. 842 00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:50,221 - Part of his agreement with his guilty plea 843 00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:51,389 was that he would plead guilty 844 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,056 to three counts of second degree, 845 00:39:53,056 --> 00:39:56,060 and take the three consecutive life sentences. 846 00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,104 - As soon as there's some sort of sexual aspect 847 00:39:58,104 --> 00:40:00,189 to the murder, it becomes a first degree murder. 848 00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:03,651 First degree murders require intent and premeditation, 849 00:40:03,651 --> 00:40:05,986 whereas second degree murders requires intent, 850 00:40:05,986 --> 00:40:07,113 but you don't necessarily need 851 00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,448 that premeditated design to the crime. 852 00:40:10,449 --> 00:40:12,743 - [Narrator] The possibility of sexual assault 853 00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:14,495 remains inconclusive, 854 00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:16,038 with the investigation dropped 855 00:40:16,038 --> 00:40:18,040 after Ostamas's guilty plea. 856 00:40:18,873 --> 00:40:20,251 John Ostamas pleads guilty 857 00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:22,753 to all three counts of second degree murder, 858 00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:26,715 and is sentenced to three consecutive life sentences. 859 00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:29,718 - All in all, he confessed to what he believed 860 00:40:29,718 --> 00:40:31,594 were 17 homicides. 861 00:40:31,594 --> 00:40:33,431 He was convicted of three homicides. 862 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:37,393 At the time, he got the longest sentence ever in Canada. 863 00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:39,979 No chance of parole for 75 years. 864 00:40:39,979 --> 00:40:42,022 I remember him saying in his interview 865 00:40:42,022 --> 00:40:44,024 that he was a killing machine. 866 00:40:44,024 --> 00:40:45,943 He liked killing, and he was good at it. 867 00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:48,446 That's a very, very dangerous person. 868 00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:51,157 And to see him in the person, 869 00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:54,368 he certainly does not portray that danger. 870 00:40:54,368 --> 00:40:56,370 He's someone you would walk past on the street 871 00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:59,915 and never ever think that he was this person. 872 00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:01,834 It was an intense few days, 873 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:04,753 absolutely crazy, intense few days, 874 00:41:04,753 --> 00:41:08,132 and I think if we hadn't got him, 875 00:41:09,216 --> 00:41:11,760 he would've absolutely wreaked havoc in our city, 876 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,889 and gone on somewhere else and done the same thing again, 877 00:41:14,889 --> 00:41:16,640 because there's no doubt about it, 878 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,726 his violence was escalating. 879 00:41:20,728 --> 00:41:25,232 These people were so vulnerable in the city of Winnipeg. 880 00:41:25,232 --> 00:41:27,443 They're invisible people, all the time. 881 00:41:27,443 --> 00:41:29,612 Like, we go about our daily business, 882 00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:31,655 and these are invisible people. 883 00:41:31,655 --> 00:41:34,074 You know, they've got addictions problems, 884 00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:35,951 they've got solvent abuse problems, 885 00:41:35,951 --> 00:41:38,286 they've got mental health issues, 886 00:41:38,286 --> 00:41:41,957 and they do what they have to do to survive. 887 00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:45,085 - [Narrator] John Ostamas is sentenced 888 00:41:45,085 --> 00:41:48,047 to three consecutive life sentences 889 00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:50,007 to be served in Canadian prison. 890 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:55,054 While originally ineligible for parole for 75 years, 891 00:41:55,054 --> 00:41:58,974 an appeal has him able to apply in 2040, 892 00:41:58,974 --> 00:42:01,393 when he will be 63 years old. 893 00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:05,314 Targeting the city's most vulnerable, 894 00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:09,151 Ostamas almost got away with the murder of three men. 895 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:12,655 Thankfully, he was stopped before he could take 896 00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:13,906 any more victims. 897 00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:16,867 - Somebody has to advocate for them, 898 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:18,369 and there's lots of people who do. 899 00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:20,704 But when something like this happens to them, 900 00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:25,668 as society, we have to stand up and advocate for them, 901 00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:28,587 and look out for them, and remember them, 902 00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:30,464 because they were people. 903 00:42:30,464 --> 00:42:33,175 (somber music) 904 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,555 (dramatic music) 71421

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