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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,291 --> 00:00:03,294 (suspenseful music) 2 00:00:05,463 --> 00:00:08,507 - [Narrator] A senior is found beaten to death 3 00:00:08,507 --> 00:00:10,176 with overkill. 4 00:00:10,176 --> 00:00:13,388 - The violence that occurred to Lucile stood out. 5 00:00:13,388 --> 00:00:15,306 It was a severe beating. 6 00:00:16,933 --> 00:00:18,685 - [Narrator] If she has no enemies, 7 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:21,396 why does this murder look personal? 8 00:00:22,689 --> 00:00:25,942 A relative seems to hold a grudge. 9 00:00:25,942 --> 00:00:27,402 - Could Lucile have been murdered 10 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:30,113 by a family member in cold blood over money? 11 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:33,742 - [Narrator] And a serial killer is on the loose, 12 00:00:33,742 --> 00:00:37,412 but no one knows why this heinous crime has happened. 13 00:00:38,537 --> 00:00:40,331 - You start going over everything again, 14 00:00:40,331 --> 00:00:44,753 and, "What have I missed, what have I misinterpreted?" 15 00:00:44,753 --> 00:00:49,591 - [Narrator] Two decades later, a hot tip warms a cold case. 16 00:00:49,591 --> 00:00:52,594 Now it's game on to catch a killer. 17 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:54,679 - It was eye-opening that someone 18 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:57,766 would do something like this, it shocks you. 19 00:00:57,766 --> 00:01:00,894 (dramatic music) 20 00:01:02,228 --> 00:01:05,732 - The unsolved ones, we have to stand up. 21 00:01:05,732 --> 00:01:09,569 - And approach these cases in a way outside the box. 22 00:01:09,569 --> 00:01:11,780 - Let the world know, those out there 23 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:13,490 that did commit a murder and there are people 24 00:01:13,490 --> 00:01:15,116 that are coming after you. 25 00:01:15,116 --> 00:01:16,575 - There's just a lot of good people trying 26 00:01:16,575 --> 00:01:18,495 to do the right thing. 27 00:01:18,495 --> 00:01:20,371 - Because it's something that you have 28 00:01:20,371 --> 00:01:21,623 to be passionate about. 29 00:01:21,623 --> 00:01:24,125 - Solve this, bring some peace to the family, 30 00:01:24,125 --> 00:01:26,419 at least, just doing my job. 31 00:01:26,419 --> 00:01:29,756 (suspenseful music) 32 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:37,972 - [Narrator] It's a very cold day in Holiday, 33 00:01:37,972 --> 00:01:40,683 a suburb of Salt Lake City and known as one of 34 00:01:40,683 --> 00:01:44,729 the most safe and sought after places in Utah to live. 35 00:01:46,063 --> 00:01:48,817 When Shirley England is unable to reach her very active, 36 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:52,112 and community-oriented mother, Lucile Johnson, 37 00:01:52,112 --> 00:01:54,739 she drops into her home to say hello. 38 00:01:55,448 --> 00:01:58,743 (suspenseful music) 39 00:01:59,619 --> 00:02:01,663 - Her mom's a very busy senior. 40 00:02:01,663 --> 00:02:03,790 It's more common than not that Lucile Johnson 41 00:02:03,790 --> 00:02:06,376 will be very far from her phone, 42 00:02:06,376 --> 00:02:08,502 but Shirley England sees very quickly 43 00:02:08,502 --> 00:02:10,004 that something's wrong. 44 00:02:11,172 --> 00:02:12,882 - [Narrator] Lucile is lying at the end 45 00:02:12,882 --> 00:02:15,135 of the main floor hallway in a pool of blood. 46 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:21,641 A pillow over her face, blood splattered around her head. 47 00:02:22,934 --> 00:02:24,435 - England's first thought is that her mother 48 00:02:24,435 --> 00:02:25,728 has been hemorrhaging and holding 49 00:02:25,728 --> 00:02:28,064 the pillow to her face to absorb the blood. 50 00:02:28,064 --> 00:02:30,900 And, on her way to the bathroom, she passes out. 51 00:02:32,485 --> 00:02:36,281 - [Narrator] She calls 911 and they suggest CPR, 52 00:02:36,281 --> 00:02:39,159 but it's clear to Shirley that her mother is dead. 53 00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:41,744 But when she tells the operator 54 00:02:41,744 --> 00:02:44,080 there is a pillow over her mother's face, 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,709 Shirley England is shocked when the operator asks, 56 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:50,127 "Are you alone in the house?" 57 00:02:53,006 --> 00:02:55,633 - That's when she knows that her mother has been murdered 58 00:02:55,633 --> 00:02:58,636 and she could be alone with the killer. 59 00:02:58,636 --> 00:03:01,764 (dramatic music) 60 00:03:06,519 --> 00:03:09,480 - [Narrator] The operator immediately dispatches police 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,191 to the crime scene. 62 00:03:12,275 --> 00:03:14,903 - So I was off and got a call that there was 63 00:03:14,903 --> 00:03:18,198 a dead body and it looked suspicious. 64 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:22,285 - [Narrator] Patrol officers have already cleared the house 65 00:03:22,285 --> 00:03:25,205 when lead detective Manny Lassig arrives. 66 00:03:26,831 --> 00:03:28,750 - I was the first homicide detective on scene. 67 00:03:28,750 --> 00:03:32,544 The patrol officers, you know, initially took me through 68 00:03:32,544 --> 00:03:34,589 and showed me what they had seen. 69 00:03:36,007 --> 00:03:38,551 - Lucile Johnson lays in a pool of blood at the end 70 00:03:38,551 --> 00:03:42,055 of the hall with her head against the base of a door. 71 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:44,724 - Now, there wasn't a whole lot of ransacking 72 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:47,769 that I could see, but the violence 73 00:03:47,769 --> 00:03:50,647 that occurred to Lucile stood out. 74 00:03:50,647 --> 00:03:52,232 There was a pillow over her face. 75 00:03:54,484 --> 00:03:56,861 - The scene is quite unusual for a neighborhood 76 00:03:56,861 --> 00:03:58,780 where normally a very petite senior 77 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:01,115 should have been living in safety. 78 00:04:01,866 --> 00:04:03,493 - You know, fairly quiet street, 79 00:04:03,493 --> 00:04:05,828 decent sized lots with nice homes 80 00:04:05,828 --> 00:04:08,915 in a neighborhood, an upscale neighborhood. 81 00:04:09,624 --> 00:04:12,919 (suspenseful music) 82 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:18,258 - [Narrator] Lucile Miner is born in 1912 in Eureka, Utah. 83 00:04:20,551 --> 00:04:22,637 Kind, loving and accomplished, 84 00:04:22,637 --> 00:04:25,932 she's a graduate of the Latter Day Saints Business College 85 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:29,269 and a former member of the Salt Lake Exchange Club. 86 00:04:30,436 --> 00:04:33,022 Lucile is active in the Church of Jesus Christ 87 00:04:33,022 --> 00:04:34,815 of Latter Day Saints, 88 00:04:34,815 --> 00:04:38,069 president of the Utah Broadcasting Association 89 00:04:38,069 --> 00:04:40,904 and president of the Investment Center. 90 00:04:42,782 --> 00:04:45,827 She marries Howard Johnson in 1933, 91 00:04:45,827 --> 00:04:48,788 and they are together for almost 56 years 92 00:04:48,788 --> 00:04:51,791 before he passes away in 1989. 93 00:04:54,085 --> 00:04:56,713 Lucile Johnson is independent and, 94 00:04:56,713 --> 00:04:58,755 after her husband's death, continues 95 00:04:58,755 --> 00:05:01,926 to live in the same house where they raised their children. 96 00:05:01,926 --> 00:05:04,178 She keeps in close contact with her children, 97 00:05:04,178 --> 00:05:06,848 Shirley England and Jerry Johnson. 98 00:05:08,224 --> 00:05:10,685 In the summer months, Lucile is up 99 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:13,271 by 6:00 AM working in her garden. 100 00:05:15,106 --> 00:05:17,900 She spends her days caring for elderly neighbors, 101 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:19,319 or anyone else in need. 102 00:05:20,737 --> 00:05:22,613 Her grandchildren take a high priority. 103 00:05:22,613 --> 00:05:26,284 She keeps toys stored in the house for when they visit. 104 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:30,955 - Lucile Johnson is healthy, she still drives. 105 00:05:30,955 --> 00:05:33,875 She runs all her own errands and she shares 106 00:05:33,875 --> 00:05:36,002 an interest in genealogy with a nephew, 107 00:05:36,002 --> 00:05:38,212 and they work on family projects together. 108 00:05:38,212 --> 00:05:40,380 He spends a lot of time in the family home, 109 00:05:40,380 --> 00:05:44,135 and Lucile has helped him financially for several years. 110 00:05:45,678 --> 00:05:47,263 - But the week before her murder, 111 00:05:47,263 --> 00:05:50,099 Lucile tells him she is tired of constantly being expected 112 00:05:50,099 --> 00:05:52,935 to contribute financially and she is going 113 00:05:52,935 --> 00:05:55,355 to start cutting back on support. 114 00:05:56,064 --> 00:05:59,359 (suspenseful music) 115 00:06:04,822 --> 00:06:06,074 - [Narrator] The day of the murder, 116 00:06:06,074 --> 00:06:08,993 report is broadcast on the local news. 117 00:06:09,911 --> 00:06:11,746 Lucile's son, Jerry Johnson, hears 118 00:06:11,746 --> 00:06:14,332 his mother's address announced on the radio, 119 00:06:14,332 --> 00:06:16,000 but doesn't hear why. 120 00:06:17,752 --> 00:06:19,754 At the murder scene police collect 121 00:06:19,754 --> 00:06:22,548 the pillow that was over the victim's face. 122 00:06:22,548 --> 00:06:24,008 (camera snapping) 123 00:06:24,008 --> 00:06:27,428 - Lucile is wearing a red shirt covered with blood 124 00:06:27,428 --> 00:06:29,931 and her body is laying face up. 125 00:06:29,931 --> 00:06:32,350 There's blood spatter on the walls and door. 126 00:06:32,350 --> 00:06:34,267 She fought for her life. 127 00:06:35,728 --> 00:06:37,355 - [Narrator] The height of the blood splatter 128 00:06:37,355 --> 00:06:39,482 indicates the victim is on the ground 129 00:06:39,482 --> 00:06:41,401 when she is savagely beaten. 130 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:45,529 Near the front door and across the living room, 131 00:06:45,529 --> 00:06:47,407 Lego bricks are scattered. 132 00:06:49,534 --> 00:06:54,080 Shirley, Lucile's daughter, waves a red flag to police. 133 00:06:54,914 --> 00:06:56,707 - She said, "No, that'd be outta order. 134 00:06:56,707 --> 00:06:58,084 "If somebody came over to play those blocks 135 00:06:58,084 --> 00:06:59,836 "would be put away, you know, 136 00:06:59,836 --> 00:07:02,088 "if they didn't put 'em away, she would put 'em away." 137 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:04,048 She gave me some history of her mom, 138 00:07:04,048 --> 00:07:06,884 how she was a real meticulous housekeeper. 139 00:07:06,884 --> 00:07:09,387 She kept her house real neat, clean. 140 00:07:10,763 --> 00:07:13,433 - The scene appears to be a robbery gone bad. 141 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:16,436 There are items missing, a high-end purse, 142 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,438 some rings and a necklace. 143 00:07:19,772 --> 00:07:22,233 However, there's other valuable items left behind, 144 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:24,944 like a wallet and another necklace 145 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:27,738 so it's not obviously clear what happened here. 146 00:07:29,407 --> 00:07:31,742 - [Narrator] The only clues detectives have 147 00:07:31,742 --> 00:07:35,163 are the blood soaked pillow case and the pieces of Lego 148 00:07:35,163 --> 00:07:38,207 that are indicated out of place by the daughter. 149 00:07:39,083 --> 00:07:40,960 - We gathered the Lego blocks that were 150 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,213 in the front room and went through documented, you know, 151 00:07:44,213 --> 00:07:48,342 the scene where there was some blood spatter 152 00:07:48,342 --> 00:07:52,346 on the walls down at the end of the hallway, pillow, 153 00:07:52,346 --> 00:07:56,267 anything that would stand out as far as evidence wise, 154 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:59,145 we were there to document and gather. 155 00:08:00,271 --> 00:08:03,232 - There's not a lot to go on at this time. 156 00:08:03,232 --> 00:08:06,110 It's a very sparse scene and, interestingly, 157 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:08,321 there's no sign of forced entry. 158 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:11,699 Lucile clearly opens the door willingly to someone. 159 00:08:13,242 --> 00:08:15,578 - You had your front door and then you had a storm door 160 00:08:15,578 --> 00:08:18,372 that went on it, it had a latch on it 161 00:08:18,372 --> 00:08:20,208 and she would keep that locked, and there were 162 00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:23,503 some Lego blocks out in the driveway, we gathered those. 163 00:08:28,216 --> 00:08:30,343 - Detective Lassig asked Lucile's daughter 164 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:33,179 if a smooth talker could have persuaded Lucile 165 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:36,057 to open the door, but Shirley is adamant 166 00:08:36,057 --> 00:08:37,475 that her mother would've never 167 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:39,727 allowed a stranger into her house. 168 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:42,855 There doesn't seem to be a reason for this, 169 00:08:42,855 --> 00:08:46,817 but authorities know something the general public does not. 170 00:08:46,817 --> 00:08:50,112 In Utah, there appears to be a serial killer on the loose, 171 00:08:50,112 --> 00:08:53,366 and who targets elderly women who live alone. 172 00:08:56,910 --> 00:08:59,914 (discordant music) 173 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:04,752 (dramatic music) 174 00:09:09,298 --> 00:09:11,133 - [Narrator] An active senior citizen 175 00:09:11,133 --> 00:09:13,553 is brutally murdered in her own home. 176 00:09:15,011 --> 00:09:16,806 Only a few items are missing, 177 00:09:18,182 --> 00:09:19,976 and the only thing out of place are a few 178 00:09:19,976 --> 00:09:23,563 of her grandchildren's Lego pieces strewn on the floor. 179 00:09:25,022 --> 00:09:26,816 But police know that a serial killer 180 00:09:26,816 --> 00:09:31,904 who targets elderly women in their homes is on the loose. 181 00:09:31,904 --> 00:09:35,616 (dramatic music continues) 182 00:09:37,285 --> 00:09:39,953 Lucile Johnson is the ninth elderly woman 183 00:09:39,953 --> 00:09:44,333 to be murdered in Salt Lake City over a 10-year span. 184 00:09:44,333 --> 00:09:48,546 Between 1982 and 1991, nine women over the age 185 00:09:48,546 --> 00:09:51,631 of 69 are found murdered in their homes. 186 00:09:53,134 --> 00:09:54,802 - And police don't know who's doing it, 187 00:09:54,802 --> 00:09:58,514 but they do suspect that Lucile could be part of a pattern. 188 00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:02,768 - Authorities trace Lucile Johnson's activities that day 189 00:10:02,768 --> 00:10:04,812 for clues of what might have happened 190 00:10:04,812 --> 00:10:06,856 and who might have crossed her path. 191 00:10:10,401 --> 00:10:13,404 The day of Lucile's murder, she is typically active 192 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:16,490 and in service of others, she visits 193 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:20,328 the senior citizen center, she shops for groceries 194 00:10:20,328 --> 00:10:23,289 and drops off food for a neighbor in need. 195 00:10:24,498 --> 00:10:26,708 - At the end of her busy day, she's having problems 196 00:10:26,708 --> 00:10:29,837 with her vehicle, so she takes it in for servicing. 197 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:34,216 - [Narrator] She has to leave her car 198 00:10:34,216 --> 00:10:37,636 so an employee from the dealership drops her off at home. 199 00:10:40,264 --> 00:10:44,352 - Lucile is last observed alive in the afternoon. 200 00:10:44,352 --> 00:10:47,271 A neighbor sees her sweeping the exterior porch 201 00:10:47,271 --> 00:10:48,522 of her house. 202 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:53,402 - Shirley intends to come over to Lucile's 203 00:10:53,402 --> 00:10:56,572 with a pizza after work, but she's too tired, 204 00:10:56,572 --> 00:10:58,616 puts it off to the next day. 205 00:10:58,616 --> 00:11:00,618 Her daughter never worries about Lucile, 206 00:11:00,618 --> 00:11:03,287 her very capable mother, being left alone. 207 00:11:03,287 --> 00:11:05,414 (door bell ringing) 208 00:11:05,414 --> 00:11:09,210 (dramatic music continues) 209 00:11:13,381 --> 00:11:16,467 - [Narrator] The victim sustains a vicious attack. 210 00:11:17,635 --> 00:11:21,597 There are 24 rib fractures and her sternum is broken. 211 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:26,227 - There was a lot of beating to the head, 212 00:11:26,227 --> 00:11:30,564 chest, there was a bloody footprint on her chest 213 00:11:30,564 --> 00:11:33,192 where she was stomped on the chest. 214 00:11:33,192 --> 00:11:34,985 And when we got her up to the, you know, 215 00:11:34,985 --> 00:11:36,320 medical examiner's office, she died 216 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,824 from blunt force trauma, just a severe beating. 217 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,535 - [Narrator] There are injuries on 218 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:44,745 the front, back and side of her head. 219 00:11:44,745 --> 00:11:48,582 Two of the lacerations on the head penetrate the skull. 220 00:11:48,582 --> 00:11:52,211 Those injuries suggest the use of a bat, or a stick. 221 00:11:53,421 --> 00:11:55,297 - The killing is excessively brutal 222 00:11:55,297 --> 00:11:58,384 given Lucile's petite's size and advanced age. 223 00:11:58,384 --> 00:12:02,346 This degree of violence suggests anger and revenge. 224 00:12:02,346 --> 00:12:04,682 This killing looked personal. 225 00:12:04,682 --> 00:12:08,727 And the autopsy made clear that the victim fights back. 226 00:12:10,146 --> 00:12:13,399 - [Narrator] Fingernail clippings are taken and preserved 227 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,902 in case Lucile managed to scratch her attacker. 228 00:12:17,778 --> 00:12:19,864 - Little old, single, you know, 229 00:12:19,864 --> 00:12:23,284 widowed woman living by herself in that house, 230 00:12:23,284 --> 00:12:24,660 you know, she's not gonna be able to put up 231 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:25,910 a whole lot of a fight. 232 00:12:28,122 --> 00:12:31,000 (dramatic music) 233 00:12:33,043 --> 00:12:35,755 - [Narrator] Directly after Lucile's killing, 234 00:12:36,797 --> 00:12:38,549 daughter Shirley receives a strange 235 00:12:38,549 --> 00:12:41,761 and disturbing phone call from Lucile's nephew. 236 00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:45,054 - It's just a week earlier when Lucile tells 237 00:12:45,054 --> 00:12:46,474 the nephew that she's decreasing 238 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:48,768 the financial support she's giving him. 239 00:12:50,102 --> 00:12:52,730 Now, in the wake of the brutal murder, 240 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:55,649 he's even refusing to offer condolences. 241 00:12:56,776 --> 00:12:59,445 - The nephew makes a comment that's shockingly cold, 242 00:12:59,445 --> 00:13:02,280 and displays a frightening lack of empathy. 243 00:13:03,657 --> 00:13:05,659 - [Narrator] "I have my own feelings to deal with, 244 00:13:05,659 --> 00:13:07,953 "but there are things in that house that belong to me, 245 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:10,873 "and I want to be there when you clean it out." 246 00:13:11,957 --> 00:13:14,168 - Shirley is reminded that there is in fact 247 00:13:14,168 --> 00:13:16,796 one person who had a problem with Lucile. 248 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:21,383 As the story spreads, family and friends are growing 249 00:13:21,383 --> 00:13:24,136 increasingly suspicious of the nephew. 250 00:13:24,136 --> 00:13:25,554 Could Lucile have been murdered 251 00:13:25,554 --> 00:13:28,098 by a family member in cold blood over money? 252 00:13:29,266 --> 00:13:32,311 (suspenseful music) 253 00:13:35,731 --> 00:13:38,818 (dramatic music) 254 00:13:39,860 --> 00:13:41,445 At the funeral, Shirley is hoping 255 00:13:41,445 --> 00:13:43,739 that her suspicions are unfounded. 256 00:13:45,282 --> 00:13:49,160 She approaches the nephew, but she's very disappointed. 257 00:13:50,703 --> 00:13:52,665 - [Narrator] "Even at the funeral, 258 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:55,835 "I kept thinking that, 'It couldn't be, it couldn't be.' 259 00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:58,045 "I went over and tried to give him a hug 260 00:13:58,045 --> 00:14:01,215 "and it was like a block," Shirley England. 261 00:14:03,926 --> 00:14:06,303 - Lucile's extended family grows suspicious 262 00:14:06,303 --> 00:14:09,014 of the nephew based on his odd behavior. 263 00:14:10,182 --> 00:14:13,102 Investigators agree, the nephew becomes 264 00:14:13,102 --> 00:14:15,229 a person of interest. 265 00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:17,982 (dramatic music) 266 00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:24,697 - [Narrator] Lucile Johnson is laid to rest 267 00:14:24,697 --> 00:14:28,033 at a memorial park in East Mill Creek, Utah. 268 00:14:29,827 --> 00:14:33,247 And her nephew is taken by police to be interviewed. 269 00:14:34,498 --> 00:14:38,127 (dramatic music continues) 270 00:14:38,127 --> 00:14:41,630 - I came at him hard, you know, it's not, 271 00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:43,924 "Well, did you do it, do you want to tell me about it?" 272 00:14:43,924 --> 00:14:47,845 You come after him and you go hard with him, and you push. 273 00:14:47,845 --> 00:14:52,892 He gave us his alibis, you run every one of those down. 274 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:56,228 Every sentence that he gave you as far as, 275 00:14:56,228 --> 00:15:00,274 what I was doing that night, where I was, who I was with. 276 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:04,028 - Police compare his footwear size 277 00:15:04,028 --> 00:15:06,947 to the bloody shoe print found on Lucile's torso. 278 00:15:08,657 --> 00:15:11,911 It's not a match, and his alibi checks out. 279 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:16,332 The nephew is cleared off the suspect list. 280 00:15:16,332 --> 00:15:19,376 (dramatic music) 281 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:22,671 - By the middle of the next year, 282 00:15:22,671 --> 00:15:25,341 police have followed all leads to no avail. 283 00:15:25,341 --> 00:15:28,135 And despite a possible serial killer on the loose, 284 00:15:28,135 --> 00:15:31,597 police still don't have a solid suspect for this murder. 285 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:36,268 - There's frustration, you start going over everything again 286 00:15:36,268 --> 00:15:38,520 and, you know, you got your crime scene photos, 287 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,939 you're looking at 'em all, you know, 288 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:42,316 you're examining each picture again, 289 00:15:42,316 --> 00:15:46,362 looking to see what is there, did you miss something? 290 00:15:46,362 --> 00:15:50,616 "What have I missed, what have I misinterpreted?" 291 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:55,371 - This ferocious killing of a vulnerable senior 292 00:15:55,371 --> 00:15:59,959 goes on the shelf, Lucile Johnson's case goes cold. 293 00:16:01,669 --> 00:16:05,756 - And then, you box up everything that you've got. 294 00:16:05,756 --> 00:16:07,841 And it gets put into archives. 295 00:16:07,841 --> 00:16:09,760 Yeah, it's a little bit personal. 296 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,222 If I didn't do everything I could possibly do 297 00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:16,225 and there is this evil person out there, 298 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:20,729 preying on somebody else, that's a tough pill to swallow. 299 00:16:22,398 --> 00:16:24,483 - Detectives have no idea they've laid 300 00:16:24,483 --> 00:16:27,277 the perfect groundwork, they just have 301 00:16:27,277 --> 00:16:29,530 to wait for the technology to catch up. 302 00:16:30,406 --> 00:16:33,951 (dramatic music continues) 303 00:16:38,122 --> 00:16:41,125 (discordant music) 304 00:16:43,127 --> 00:16:45,963 (dramatic music) 305 00:16:49,925 --> 00:16:52,886 - [Narrator] A well loved senior citizen is murdered 306 00:16:52,886 --> 00:16:55,514 in a ferocious attack in her home. 307 00:16:56,807 --> 00:16:59,101 She appears to be the ninth in a string 308 00:16:59,101 --> 00:17:01,812 of serial murders of elderly women. 309 00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:06,191 But when no suspects are unearthed, 310 00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:08,861 her case goes into cold case storage. 311 00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:13,282 (dramatic music continues) 312 00:17:16,785 --> 00:17:20,122 - Although Lucile's case is stalled, the investigation 313 00:17:20,122 --> 00:17:22,833 into the deaths of female seniors continues 314 00:17:22,833 --> 00:17:25,127 and within a few years it looks like 315 00:17:25,127 --> 00:17:27,921 there may be reason to reopen her case. 316 00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:31,215 - [Narrator] Salt Lake City is an idyllic community 317 00:17:31,215 --> 00:17:35,679 surrounded by natural beauty with a strong central church. 318 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:39,850 A relatively small population, it's a peaceful area 319 00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:43,561 that is low on unemployment and crime. 320 00:17:43,561 --> 00:17:46,523 - Utah has a dark past, the state is ranked 9th 321 00:17:46,523 --> 00:17:48,400 in the US for the largest number 322 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,903 of documented serial killer victims. 323 00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:54,364 - [Narrator] In the 1970s, while a law student 324 00:17:54,364 --> 00:17:56,950 at the University of Utah, Ted Bundy goes 325 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:59,453 on a murder spree of women and, eventually, 326 00:17:59,453 --> 00:18:02,164 stands trial for kidnapping and murder. 327 00:18:03,540 --> 00:18:07,086 Arthur Gary Bishop is born and raised in Salt Lake City, 328 00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:09,755 a high school honors student, and member 329 00:18:09,755 --> 00:18:11,632 of the Church of Latter Day Saints. 330 00:18:11,632 --> 00:18:14,593 He confesses to the murder of five young boys 331 00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:19,765 and is put to death by lethal injection in Utah in 1988. 332 00:18:19,765 --> 00:18:22,392 Gary Ridgway, born in Utah, is known 333 00:18:22,392 --> 00:18:25,979 as the Green River Killer, he preys on vulnerable women 334 00:18:25,979 --> 00:18:30,734 and is the second most prolific serial killer in the US. 335 00:18:30,734 --> 00:18:33,320 - Over the span of a decade, Utah police see 336 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,199 a pattern in the murders of elderly women in Salt Lake City. 337 00:18:38,659 --> 00:18:40,619 - So there was multiple cases that were looked at 338 00:18:40,619 --> 00:18:44,455 at that time of elderly women that had been murdered. 339 00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:48,417 (dramatic music) 340 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:54,715 - [Narrator] Daniel Troyer is 20 years old when he attempts 341 00:18:54,715 --> 00:18:59,680 to rape a 71-year-old paraplegic woman in 1979. 342 00:19:04,434 --> 00:19:07,479 He is swiftly in custody again for burglary 343 00:19:07,479 --> 00:19:10,773 and in prison until the summer of 1985. 344 00:19:11,692 --> 00:19:15,195 Weeks later, 83-year-old Drucilla Ovard 345 00:19:15,195 --> 00:19:17,698 of Salt Lake City is brutally beaten, 346 00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:20,742 strangled, and bludgeoned to death. 347 00:19:22,035 --> 00:19:24,413 - Detectives believe that the killer hurts his right hand 348 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:27,124 in the attack, so they distribute a bulletin 349 00:19:27,124 --> 00:19:30,627 to patrol officers about a potential daytime burglar 350 00:19:30,627 --> 00:19:32,713 with an injured right hand. 351 00:19:32,713 --> 00:19:35,507 Soon after, officers catch a man 352 00:19:35,507 --> 00:19:37,426 with a bandaged right hand breaking 353 00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:40,637 into homes just blocks from the murder scene, 354 00:19:40,637 --> 00:19:42,556 his name is Daniel Troyer. 355 00:19:43,849 --> 00:19:46,143 - [Narrator] Police strongly suspect Troyer 356 00:19:46,143 --> 00:19:48,186 is involved in the death of Ovard 357 00:19:48,186 --> 00:19:51,190 and her 69-year-old neighbor, Thelma Blodgett, 358 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:55,194 who is murdered six days earlier, but they can't prove it. 359 00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:58,739 - This time, Daniel Troyer is sentenced 360 00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:03,744 to 15 years for burglary, but is paroled again in 1988 361 00:20:03,744 --> 00:20:05,954 and released to a halfway house. 362 00:20:07,164 --> 00:20:09,708 Troyer applies for barber college. 363 00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:11,877 Shortly after, Ethel Luckau, 364 00:20:11,877 --> 00:20:14,838 who lives very close to the school, is killed. 365 00:20:14,838 --> 00:20:16,715 - [Narrator] Witnesses report seeing Troyer 366 00:20:16,715 --> 00:20:22,179 near Luckau's home just two days before she is murdered. 367 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:25,641 - Police compare pubic hair found on Luckau's body 368 00:20:25,641 --> 00:20:27,601 and it matches to Troyer. 369 00:20:28,977 --> 00:20:32,689 - In 1989, he is charged with Ethel Luckau's murder. 370 00:20:32,689 --> 00:20:34,900 However, two years later, the judge rules 371 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:38,445 that certain evidence is inadmissible and gets thrown out. 372 00:20:38,445 --> 00:20:40,239 The district attorney appeals. 373 00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:44,409 - [Narrator] In 1996, the Utah Supreme Court rules 374 00:20:44,409 --> 00:20:46,578 in favor of the DA and Troyer 375 00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:49,205 is recharged with capital murder. 376 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:53,919 In 1998, DNA testing is done 377 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:56,505 from the Drucilla Ovard crime scene, 378 00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,507 and Troyer's DNA is a match, 379 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:01,718 so he is finally charged with her murder as well. 380 00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:05,722 - In June 1999, Troyer agrees to a plea deal. 381 00:21:05,722 --> 00:21:08,892 He pleads guilty to the murders of Luckau and Ovard 382 00:21:08,892 --> 00:21:11,811 so that he can receive a life without parole sentence, 383 00:21:11,811 --> 00:21:13,939 as opposed to the death sentence. 384 00:21:14,815 --> 00:21:16,858 Authorities believe he has killed others, 385 00:21:16,858 --> 00:21:19,278 but there's not enough evidence to prove it. 386 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:21,863 - Troyer looks like the kind of killer 387 00:21:21,863 --> 00:21:23,740 that would target Lucile Johnson. 388 00:21:24,491 --> 00:21:27,327 (dramatic music) 389 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,917 - But police discover that Daniel Troyer is in prison 390 00:21:34,917 --> 00:21:39,214 at the time Lucile was killed, he did not kill Lucile. 391 00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,718 And with Troyer eliminated as a suspect, 392 00:21:43,844 --> 00:21:46,847 the case goes cold until 20 years later. 393 00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:50,976 (dramatic music continues) 394 00:21:51,852 --> 00:21:53,478 - [Narrator] Police receive a tip 395 00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:56,857 from a nephew of a man named John Sansing 396 00:21:56,857 --> 00:21:59,776 regarding a murder in 1991. 397 00:21:59,776 --> 00:22:03,571 The nephew states he hears on more than one occasion, 398 00:22:03,571 --> 00:22:06,867 Sansing arguing with his wife, Kara Sansing. 399 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:10,996 She threatens to tell police about an elderly woman 400 00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:14,458 he admits to killing in Utah in 1991. 401 00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:20,047 - In 2013, detectives with Utah's Unified Police Department 402 00:22:20,047 --> 00:22:22,799 in the Greater Salt Lake Area look for cases 403 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,302 that match this tip and subsequently, 404 00:22:25,302 --> 00:22:27,721 look at the Lucile Johnson case. 405 00:22:29,138 --> 00:22:32,934 - In 2013, I was assigned to our Violent Crimes Unit 406 00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:36,271 and part of my responsibilities in that unit was 407 00:22:36,271 --> 00:22:38,440 to investigate current homicides, 408 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,734 as well as past homicides, cold cases. 409 00:22:41,734 --> 00:22:45,781 (dramatic music continues) 410 00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:46,990 - [Narrator] In that same year, 411 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:49,201 the US Department of Justice provides 412 00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:52,579 a $300,000 cold case grant. 413 00:22:52,579 --> 00:22:54,955 It is for cases that can potentially benefit 414 00:22:54,955 --> 00:22:58,502 from the advances in modern forensic DNA technology. 415 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:03,173 - When DNA first came out, it was very, 416 00:23:03,173 --> 00:23:05,008 very expensive, time-consuming, 417 00:23:05,008 --> 00:23:07,886 you could go months before you had any results. 418 00:23:07,886 --> 00:23:09,846 And this particular grant that we had 419 00:23:09,846 --> 00:23:11,890 at the time was focused on DNA. 420 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:13,892 And, as I reviewed the case, I believe 421 00:23:13,892 --> 00:23:16,228 there was good evidence in this case 422 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:19,231 that we could test for DNA, tests that weren't available 423 00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:24,236 in 1991, or even in the late '90s for detectives to use. 424 00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:28,031 - [Narrator] Sergeant Mike Ikemiyashiro, 425 00:23:28,031 --> 00:23:31,368 known as Sergeant Mike Ike, oversees the decision 426 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:35,414 of what pieces of evidence will be used for DNA testing. 427 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,959 - I looked at the clothing, I looked at photos, 428 00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:42,129 I looked at items of evidence collected from the autopsy. 429 00:23:42,129 --> 00:23:46,049 And, as I searched through that, I made some decisions. 430 00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:49,094 - Sergeant Ike hopes that the killer's DNA 431 00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:52,347 is embedded within the fibers of the pillow, 432 00:23:52,347 --> 00:23:53,974 depending on how forcefully 433 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:56,476 it was pressed down to Lucile's face. 434 00:23:58,019 --> 00:24:02,190 - I identified some of the items, clothing, a pillow case, 435 00:24:02,190 --> 00:24:04,818 and I submitted several articles of evidence. 436 00:24:04,818 --> 00:24:08,029 And, in this case specifically, the fingernails 437 00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:10,532 that were collected at the time of autopsy. 438 00:24:12,075 --> 00:24:14,202 - And if Lucile fought her killer, 439 00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:15,912 as police believe she did, 440 00:24:15,912 --> 00:24:18,457 there could be DNA under her fingernails. 441 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:24,963 - [Narrator] And CODIS returns a hit, John Sansing. 442 00:24:24,963 --> 00:24:28,133 (dramatic music) 443 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:33,221 Sergeant Ike is able to tell Detective Lassig, 444 00:24:33,221 --> 00:24:35,974 who is one of the first on the scene in 1991, 445 00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:40,061 that he's found a DNA hit for Lucile Johnson's killer. 446 00:24:40,061 --> 00:24:42,314 - I let him know about the CODIS hit, 447 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,275 the identification, the process that we'd be going through. 448 00:24:45,275 --> 00:24:48,820 And from a detective that had that case 449 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:51,865 in the '90s, the only thing you could genuinely see 450 00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:54,242 in his eyes is that he was glad. 451 00:24:55,577 --> 00:24:57,871 I think that's another great trait of good detectives 452 00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:01,041 There was no pride, there was no resentment. 453 00:25:01,041 --> 00:25:03,710 He was just genuinely glad. 454 00:25:05,378 --> 00:25:07,172 - [Narrator] John Sansing has a record 455 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:10,258 of arrests that put his DNA on file. 456 00:25:10,258 --> 00:25:13,887 In fact, he sits on death row in an Arizona prison 457 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:17,098 for a rape and murder in 1998. 458 00:25:17,098 --> 00:25:20,143 But Sergeant Ikemiyashiro doesn't have enough 459 00:25:20,143 --> 00:25:23,688 to convict him in the Lucile Johnson case... yet. 460 00:25:25,273 --> 00:25:27,359 - Although his DNA is found under her fingernails, 461 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,486 it could be there innocently. 462 00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:32,781 Police need to investigate how Sansing crossed paths 463 00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:34,991 with Lucile because they're going to need more, 464 00:25:34,991 --> 00:25:36,535 if they want to convict him. 465 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,248 - [Narrator] Sergeant Ikemiyashiro speaks 466 00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:45,710 to Sansing's wife, Kara, who's presently in prison herself. 467 00:25:47,128 --> 00:25:49,297 She reports that John Sansing worked 468 00:25:49,297 --> 00:25:54,052 in Salt Lake City County at a car dealership in 1998. 469 00:25:54,052 --> 00:25:56,429 Lucile takes her car in to be serviced 470 00:25:56,429 --> 00:25:59,057 on the day she is killed and is given 471 00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:02,227 a ride home by someone at the dealership. 472 00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:06,314 - The suspect, part of his job responsibilities was 473 00:26:06,314 --> 00:26:08,316 to shuttle people back while their vehicle 474 00:26:08,316 --> 00:26:11,820 was being serviced, so he had the opportunity 475 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:15,156 to see where she lived, talk with her a little bit, 476 00:26:15,156 --> 00:26:18,493 and then returned later in the evening 477 00:26:18,493 --> 00:26:19,994 when this attack occurred. 478 00:26:21,288 --> 00:26:24,207 - [Narrator] Still, this could be argued as circumstantial 479 00:26:24,207 --> 00:26:26,585 and isn't enough to seal the case. 480 00:26:31,256 --> 00:26:35,594 Sergeant Ike goes to Arizona to interview John Sansing 481 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,387 and investigate the shocking killing 482 00:26:37,387 --> 00:26:42,559 that lands John Sansing on death row in an Arizona prison. 483 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,186 - Most repeat murders have patterns, 484 00:26:45,186 --> 00:26:47,147 and these are details that Sergeant Ike 485 00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:50,150 may be able to use to prove beyond any doubt 486 00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:52,652 that Sansing murdered Lucile Johnson. 487 00:26:54,195 --> 00:26:56,489 - Everything is riding on this interview. 488 00:26:57,782 --> 00:27:01,286 - This was a unique interview because of the security issues 489 00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:03,371 of the status that he was under. 490 00:27:03,371 --> 00:27:07,500 It was a crowded room with a lot of security measures 491 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:11,921 in place, so it was very tense from the very beginning. 492 00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:20,638 (dramatic music) 493 00:27:22,766 --> 00:27:25,644 (dramatic music) 494 00:27:30,190 --> 00:27:32,817 - [Narrator] A serial killer of seniors is ruled out 495 00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:36,154 in Lucile Johnson's 1991 murder. 496 00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:39,532 Evidence from the 20 year old murder is sent for testing 497 00:27:39,532 --> 00:27:42,410 and the DNA search reveals a suspect. 498 00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:47,290 But DNA is not enough, investigators travel 499 00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:49,250 to interview the suspect who sits 500 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:53,463 on death row for an unrelated rape and murder. 501 00:27:53,463 --> 00:27:57,050 (dramatic music continues) 502 00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,888 - When Sergeant Ike interviews John Sansing, 503 00:28:02,888 --> 00:28:05,475 he doesn't mention a specific case, 504 00:28:05,475 --> 00:28:08,895 but that he wants to know the man's background history. 505 00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:14,442 Sansing talks, he unwittingly places himself 506 00:28:14,442 --> 00:28:17,445 in Salt Lake City at the time of the killing. 507 00:28:17,445 --> 00:28:20,699 This is the corroboration that police need. 508 00:28:22,157 --> 00:28:24,536 - And the case that landed Sansing on death row 509 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:28,707 offers Sergeant Ikemiyashiro dark new insights. 510 00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:31,417 - [Narrator] 31-year-old father of four, 511 00:28:31,417 --> 00:28:34,713 John Sansing, is high on crack cocaine. 512 00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:40,927 He and his wife, Kara, need more drugs, but they are broke. 513 00:28:42,345 --> 00:28:44,889 They decide to rob someone for their valuables. 514 00:28:46,015 --> 00:28:48,226 - They also need to feed their four children. 515 00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:50,729 So John Sansing comes up with a plan. 516 00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:55,483 He calls Living Springs Church near Glendale, 517 00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:58,445 and arranges for a charitable food delivery. 518 00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:01,573 He'll get food, and rob the delivery person. 519 00:29:03,158 --> 00:29:05,201 - [Narrator] At approximately 5:00 PM 520 00:29:05,201 --> 00:29:08,288 41-year-old, Trudy Calibrese arrives 521 00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:10,665 at the Sansing home with a box of food. 522 00:29:10,665 --> 00:29:13,543 She chats with the couple and, as she attempts 523 00:29:13,543 --> 00:29:16,671 to leave, she is attacked by Sansing. 524 00:29:17,797 --> 00:29:20,341 - The Sansing children are present. 525 00:29:20,341 --> 00:29:22,802 They testify that Trudy Calibrese begs them 526 00:29:22,802 --> 00:29:26,723 to call police, and cries that she doesn't want to die. 527 00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:29,017 Sansing beats her unconscious 528 00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:34,105 with a club as she pleads and prays, he binds her limbs 529 00:29:35,648 --> 00:29:37,776 and with help from his wife, Kara, drags her into a bedroom. 530 00:29:39,652 --> 00:29:42,530 - [Narrator] Sansing orders his children to watch television 531 00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:45,909 in another room, but they overhear events. 532 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:49,829 - At that point, he rapes, tortures, 533 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:53,958 and murders Trudy Calibrese then, steals her jewelry. 534 00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:56,127 Afterwards, he looks out the dining room window 535 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:58,922 to make certain that no one has seen anything. 536 00:30:00,673 --> 00:30:04,052 - Each of the four children see Calibrese's dead body. 537 00:30:04,052 --> 00:30:07,055 Sansing ineffectually tries to hide 538 00:30:07,055 --> 00:30:10,183 the body behind a shed in the backyard. 539 00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:12,811 He covers the body with a pile of clothing. 540 00:30:15,063 --> 00:30:18,441 But the next day searchers find Miss Calibrese's truck 541 00:30:18,441 --> 00:30:21,277 in a parking lot near the Sansing home. 542 00:30:22,445 --> 00:30:24,030 - [Narrator] Inside there's a piece 543 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:26,449 of paper with the Sansing address. 544 00:30:26,449 --> 00:30:28,201 When authorities come looking for her 545 00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:29,577 at the Sansing residence, 546 00:30:29,577 --> 00:30:33,081 they easily locate her body behind the shed. 547 00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:36,709 Sansing, who has driven to his sister's house, 548 00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:40,505 admits to her that he and Kara killed Trudy Calibrese. 549 00:30:41,923 --> 00:30:45,343 Eventually, John Sansing's father telephones police 550 00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:47,428 and reports his son's location. 551 00:30:47,428 --> 00:30:50,890 John Sansing knows the police are coming. 552 00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:54,853 He does not attempt to flee and submits to custody. 553 00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:57,730 - Sansing is charged with first degree murder, 554 00:30:57,730 --> 00:31:00,567 kidnapping, sexual assault, and armed robbery. 555 00:31:00,567 --> 00:31:03,152 His wife, Kara, is also charged 556 00:31:03,152 --> 00:31:05,446 with first degree murder and kidnapping. 557 00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:09,659 - [Narrator] John and Kara Sansing plead guilty 558 00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:11,870 to first degree murder charges. 559 00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,331 - Kara Sansing claims that she didn't see 560 00:31:15,331 --> 00:31:17,667 all of the murder and she didn't say anything 561 00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:20,587 because she was a battered woman under John Sansing. 562 00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:23,131 Kara Sansing is sentenced to 25 years 563 00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:25,884 and John Sansing receives the death penalty. 564 00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:29,387 - Sansing expresses a desire for their children, 565 00:31:29,387 --> 00:31:31,306 who are now in foster care, to get 566 00:31:31,306 --> 00:31:34,017 a permanent placement and to go to church. 567 00:31:35,101 --> 00:31:37,896 (dramatic music) 568 00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:43,234 - The similarities between the 1998 murder 569 00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:46,237 of Trudy Calibrese and the 1991 murder 570 00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:48,865 of Lucile Johnson cannot be denied. 571 00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,825 Both female victims were bludgeoned, 572 00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:53,244 strangled, and had their jewelry stolen 573 00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:57,165 making robbery the likely motivation for the attacks. 574 00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:59,709 But it's still not enough to prove anything. 575 00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:02,503 Sergeant Ike makes the connection 576 00:32:02,503 --> 00:32:04,505 after finding out Sansing's children 577 00:32:04,505 --> 00:32:06,966 were present for the Calibrese murder. 578 00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:10,762 - [Narrator] Sergeant Mike Ikemiyashiro sends 579 00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:13,723 the Legos that were found strewn in the living room 580 00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:16,935 in for latent fingerprint testing analysis. 581 00:32:18,102 --> 00:32:19,520 - It was one thing that seemed oddly 582 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,773 out of place on the day of the murder. 583 00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:25,401 Lucile was too neat and tidy to leave toys lying around. 584 00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:30,490 - Small fingerprints are found on Lego pieces. 585 00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:32,742 Now, these could belong to the grandchildren 586 00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:37,622 of Lucile Johnson, but Sergeant Ike has a long shot idea. 587 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:40,875 - I actually met with Kelsey Vail, 588 00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:44,337 one of the latent examiners at the state lab 589 00:32:44,337 --> 00:32:46,798 and talked to her about the potential 590 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:50,426 of finding fingerprints of a child, 591 00:32:50,426 --> 00:32:54,347 but then comparing them to fingerprints of an adult. 592 00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:57,558 They're just smaller prints, but the ridge detail's gonna be 593 00:32:57,558 --> 00:32:59,686 the same, they're just gonna be larger. 594 00:33:00,895 --> 00:33:04,315 - Kids Lego could make or break this case. 595 00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:07,110 (dramatic music) 596 00:33:09,195 --> 00:33:12,156 Sergeant Ike tracks down Sansing's children. 597 00:33:12,156 --> 00:33:14,158 They're now adults in their 20s, 598 00:33:14,158 --> 00:33:16,160 but fingerprints never change. 599 00:33:17,245 --> 00:33:18,830 - Myself and my partner that went with me, 600 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,957 we actually carried around, at the time, 601 00:33:20,957 --> 00:33:23,042 a portable fingerprint station, 602 00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:26,879 so ink pads, rollers, fingerprint cards. 603 00:33:26,879 --> 00:33:29,841 And as we interviewed the children, 604 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,093 we asked them if they would provide us 605 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:34,095 with a sample of their fingerprints. 606 00:33:34,095 --> 00:33:37,098 Obviously, at that time, I wasn't disclosing information 607 00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:39,726 as to what I was specifically looking for 608 00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:43,521 other than trying to find some comparisons to this case. 609 00:33:44,647 --> 00:33:47,191 - Police matched the prints of Sansing's son, 610 00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:50,069 who was five at the time, on Lego bricks found 611 00:33:50,069 --> 00:33:54,532 at Lucile's home, he was there at the time she was killed. 612 00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:58,494 - Maybe I was a little naive, but there are people 613 00:33:58,494 --> 00:34:01,873 in the world that will bring family along 614 00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:04,625 to commit crimes, and it's a tough one. 615 00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:07,378 - [Narrator] "When you hear the details 616 00:34:07,378 --> 00:34:09,172 "of this particular case, you can see 617 00:34:09,172 --> 00:34:12,592 "that this individual is barely human," 618 00:34:12,592 --> 00:34:15,511 Salt Lake County Sheriff, Jim Winder. 619 00:34:15,511 --> 00:34:19,265 (dramatic music continues) 620 00:34:22,477 --> 00:34:25,480 (discordant music) 621 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,109 (dramatic music) 622 00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:37,075 A DNA match is made on the cold case murder 623 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:39,911 of Lucile Johnson, but it turns out 624 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:43,498 that the suspect connected is already in prison. 625 00:34:44,623 --> 00:34:46,501 - John Sansing already sits on death row 626 00:34:46,501 --> 00:34:50,171 for the brutal rape and killing of Trudy Calibrese. 627 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:53,424 But because of DNA and of fingerprints found 628 00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:55,968 on Lego at the crime scene, he is charged 629 00:34:55,968 --> 00:34:58,930 with murder of a second woman, Lucile Johnson. 630 00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:02,725 - John Sansing goes into overkill to torture 631 00:35:02,725 --> 00:35:05,311 and prey upon the weak and vulnerable. 632 00:35:05,311 --> 00:35:08,606 What happened to him to make him this way? 633 00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:12,568 (dramatic music continues) 634 00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:16,322 - [Narrator] John Sansing grows up 635 00:35:16,322 --> 00:35:18,574 in a broken home in Alabama. 636 00:35:18,574 --> 00:35:20,993 He's a thief and a drug addict, 637 00:35:20,993 --> 00:35:24,080 and his mother can't keep him out of juvenile detention. 638 00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:28,376 In 1984, she is fed up with his behavior 639 00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:31,129 and sends him to his father in Utah. 640 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:34,799 Sansing his little to do with his biological father there 641 00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:36,843 and he doesn't complete high school. 642 00:35:38,219 --> 00:35:41,889 He meets his wife, Kara, at a Salt Lake City mall. 643 00:35:43,181 --> 00:35:47,520 Kara Sansing runs away from an abusive home in Bangladesh 644 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,774 as a child and winds up in a Calcutta jail. 645 00:35:51,774 --> 00:35:54,610 She's adopted from India in her teens. 646 00:35:55,777 --> 00:35:57,488 And her adoptive mother describes her 647 00:35:57,488 --> 00:36:00,366 as a very tough youth who is negatively impacted 648 00:36:00,366 --> 00:36:03,786 by the harsh conditions that she escapes. 649 00:36:03,786 --> 00:36:07,582 - Their relationship is volatile with both using drugs. 650 00:36:07,582 --> 00:36:09,750 John beats Kara regularly. 651 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:11,210 They have four children together, 652 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:14,505 none of whom are spared their worst behavior. 653 00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:17,175 (somber music) 654 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,304 (dramatic music) 655 00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:23,848 One mystery that remains about the night of the murder 656 00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:26,809 is how Sansing gained entry into the home. 657 00:36:26,809 --> 00:36:28,895 Lucile's daughter was sure her mother 658 00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:31,522 would never open the door to a stranger. 659 00:36:31,522 --> 00:36:32,648 (door bell ringing) 660 00:36:32,648 --> 00:36:35,067 It's now suspected that Sansing uses 661 00:36:35,067 --> 00:36:37,945 his own five-year-old son as a decoy. 662 00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:40,823 For whatever reason, Sansing gave Lucile, 663 00:36:40,823 --> 00:36:43,492 she likely relented out of her inherent kindness 664 00:36:43,492 --> 00:36:44,952 towards children. 665 00:36:46,245 --> 00:36:47,788 - [Narrator] "It's speculative as to whether 666 00:36:47,788 --> 00:36:49,873 "the child was a ruse that was used, 667 00:36:49,873 --> 00:36:54,212 "but it's certainly a possibility," Lieutenant Justin Hoyal. 668 00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:58,716 - And while Sansing kills Lucile, it appears 669 00:36:58,716 --> 00:37:00,593 he leaves his five-year-old son to play 670 00:37:00,593 --> 00:37:04,472 with the Lego pieces she's saved for her grandchildren. 671 00:37:06,056 --> 00:37:08,726 (dramatic music) 672 00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:11,103 - [Narrator] In 1993, two years 673 00:37:11,103 --> 00:37:12,980 after he murders Lucile Johnson 674 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:15,690 and gets away with it, Sansing pleads guilty 675 00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:18,361 to attempted aggravated assault, 676 00:37:18,361 --> 00:37:21,906 a class A misdemeanor, in a separate case. 677 00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:27,245 Two years later, in 1995, Sansing moves to Arizona. 678 00:37:28,704 --> 00:37:31,290 It is there, in 1998, that he murders Trudy Calibrese 679 00:37:31,290 --> 00:37:34,710 and is swiftly apprehended and sentenced to death. 680 00:37:35,753 --> 00:37:38,965 (dramatic music continues) 681 00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:42,468 Over 20 years later, John Sansing's son confirms 682 00:37:42,468 --> 00:37:45,763 he recalls being with his father in Lucile Johnson's home 683 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:48,140 on the night of February 1st, and says 684 00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:51,768 he has been traumatized since the murder took place. 685 00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:55,648 - I do feel bad for his kids, you know, 686 00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:57,565 the things that have occurred by his father, 687 00:37:57,565 --> 00:37:59,110 and things that he's witnessed. 688 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:01,362 In talking with him and and looking at his history, 689 00:38:01,362 --> 00:38:03,864 there's been quite a bit of substance abuse 690 00:38:03,864 --> 00:38:06,826 and, obviously, that takes a toll on people. 691 00:38:10,788 --> 00:38:12,707 - [Narrator] A subsequent interview 692 00:38:12,707 --> 00:38:15,543 with Kara Sansing confirms her husband admits 693 00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:17,545 to her around the time of the murder 694 00:38:17,545 --> 00:38:20,256 that he kills an elderly woman in Holiday. 695 00:38:21,465 --> 00:38:22,967 - There was things that I believe 696 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:25,428 she was being completely truthful about. 697 00:38:25,428 --> 00:38:29,515 I believe there's things that she was probably trying 698 00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:32,310 to hide, or minimize, you know, her role. 699 00:38:33,768 --> 00:38:35,771 - Sansing is formally charged with the murder 700 00:38:35,771 --> 00:38:38,565 of Lucile Johnson in 2014. 701 00:38:38,565 --> 00:38:40,860 Despite Sansing already being on death row, 702 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:43,863 Detective Ikemiyashiro affirms. 703 00:38:45,114 --> 00:38:47,033 - [Narrator] "It's very important that we prosecute 704 00:38:47,033 --> 00:38:51,495 "this case for the family," Detective Mike Ikemiyashiro. 705 00:38:51,495 --> 00:38:53,664 - It's important knowledge for the officers 706 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:56,834 who dedicate themselves to the pursuit of justice. 707 00:38:58,127 --> 00:39:00,880 - There's no way you can't take it home at night. 708 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,050 The facts are what that physical evidence tells you. 709 00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:06,969 Someone bludgeoned this woman to death 710 00:39:06,969 --> 00:39:09,347 in her home for no good reason. 711 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,724 That motivates you as a detective 712 00:39:11,724 --> 00:39:13,726 to find out not only who did this, 713 00:39:13,726 --> 00:39:17,104 but to ensure that you build a case that brings justice 714 00:39:17,104 --> 00:39:20,315 to the decedent, and to their family. 715 00:39:20,315 --> 00:39:23,402 (suspenseful music) 716 00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:30,826 - 47-year-old Sansing pleads guilty 717 00:39:30,826 --> 00:39:32,703 to the murder of Lucile Johnson. 718 00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:36,082 He receives an additional sentence of life in prison, 719 00:39:36,082 --> 00:39:38,376 and sits on death row in Arizona. 720 00:39:39,877 --> 00:39:42,922 - There's no other word I can think of other than a monster. 721 00:39:42,922 --> 00:39:46,133 No regard for his children, no regard for the victim. 722 00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:49,053 Just trying to fuel that drug addiction. 723 00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:52,098 I don't know what normal person would do 724 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:54,392 something like that other than a monster. 725 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,021 - It turns out to be a monumental turning point piece 726 00:39:59,021 --> 00:40:02,690 of evidence that 20 years earlier, detectives chose 727 00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:06,987 to bag a few seemingly random pieces of Lego. 728 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:11,117 - There's something there in the scene that is standing out 729 00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:14,245 that isn't normal, or whatever, you take it, 730 00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:15,621 is it evidence? 731 00:40:15,621 --> 00:40:16,956 I don't know. 732 00:40:16,956 --> 00:40:18,958 You don't take it, you'll never know. 733 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:20,918 Had I not taken the Lego blocks there's 734 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:25,214 a possibility this would never been solved. 735 00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:29,135 - Through a federal grant designed for cold cases, 736 00:40:29,135 --> 00:40:32,138 Lego evidence revived this investigation, 737 00:40:32,138 --> 00:40:35,641 and Lucile Johnson's killer is now known. 738 00:40:35,641 --> 00:40:38,436 (dramatic music) 739 00:40:41,021 --> 00:40:44,775 - Lucile's son, Jerry Johnson, remembers the day he heard 740 00:40:44,775 --> 00:40:47,194 on the radio his mother's address, 741 00:40:47,194 --> 00:40:49,905 but didn't connect it with a murder. 742 00:40:49,905 --> 00:40:51,198 He says he remembers then hearing 743 00:40:51,198 --> 00:40:54,285 a voice say to him, "She's with me." 744 00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:57,496 - [Narrator] "I just had a very peaceful feeling 745 00:40:57,496 --> 00:40:59,248 "come over me. 746 00:40:59,248 --> 00:41:03,127 "That peace has been with me ever since," Jerry Johnson. 747 00:41:04,335 --> 00:41:07,131 - Jerry Johnson says that he and his siblings are relieved 748 00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:10,551 to learn that Lucile was not killed by someone she knew. 749 00:41:12,011 --> 00:41:15,139 - [Narrator] "I think forgiveness is what closure is. 750 00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:19,477 "I think we already have forgiven Sansing," Jerry Johnson. 751 00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:23,189 - But Shirley England says, discovering her mother dead 752 00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:26,942 in 1991 has caused her ongoing trauma 753 00:41:26,942 --> 00:41:29,027 that will probably never end. 754 00:41:29,027 --> 00:41:32,156 She's grateful to police for what they did for her, 755 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:35,451 but she doesn't think she'll ever find true closure. 756 00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:37,161 - Did we give 'em closure? 757 00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:39,622 I don't know if that was there for them, 758 00:41:39,622 --> 00:41:43,709 but I feel good about that, as an organization, 759 00:41:43,709 --> 00:41:46,212 we did everything we could for that family. 760 00:41:47,254 --> 00:41:51,008 - Whether it takes a few short years, or decades, 761 00:41:51,008 --> 00:41:53,677 DNA evidence can expose the guilty, 762 00:41:53,677 --> 00:41:55,513 and bring them to justice. 763 00:41:57,097 --> 00:41:58,933 - [Narrator] "You commit a crime like this 764 00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:00,809 "in this community, to our dying days, 765 00:42:00,809 --> 00:42:04,438 "we are going to pursue you, we will hunt you down 766 00:42:04,438 --> 00:42:06,607 "and we will solve these crimes," 767 00:42:06,607 --> 00:42:09,527 Salt Lake County Sheriff, Jim Winder. 768 00:42:11,027 --> 00:42:14,364 - This is one of the cases that brought a lot of fulfillment 769 00:42:14,364 --> 00:42:16,909 to me in my career because I was able to see 770 00:42:16,909 --> 00:42:20,913 how the case affected the family, how that gave them 771 00:42:20,913 --> 00:42:23,582 what they'd been looking for, for over 20 years. 772 00:42:23,582 --> 00:42:25,334 That's what makes it worthwhile, 773 00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:27,545 and that's what motivates you. 774 00:42:28,754 --> 00:42:31,549 (dramatic music) 775 00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:38,556 (suspenseful music) 776 00:42:54,738 --> 00:42:58,742 (suspenseful music continues) 63449

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